[00:01:19] 03(mod) limit>0 query fail to produce proper links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27885 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:02:24] 03(mod) Sudo policies don't work for new instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40945 (10Mike Wang) [00:03:04] 03(mod) [SM] search by property on coordinates produce no results because SM converts the coordinate format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34277 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:03:31] 03(mod) [SM] search by property on coordinates produce no results because SM converts the coordinate format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34277 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:03:37] 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692 +comment (10Valerie Juarez) [00:04:05] 03(mod) GlusterFS performance problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41967 (10Mike Wang) [00:04:10] TimStarling: I resolved the conflict for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/38466/ [00:04:14] 03(mod) Activating Upload Wizard Extension in fa.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31070 (10Valerie Juarez) [00:05:33] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38466 [00:05:47] TimStarling: does https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39716/ look ok? [00:06:00] 03(mod) [SM] maps break with the error "Undefined variable: mwmaps" when produced from a template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32416 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:07:46] I got halfway through it yesterday, just looking at the rest now [00:07:59] ah, good [00:08:14] gah, I never tagged asher [00:08:49] you tested it? [00:09:51] I didn't try 'cluster' [00:10:18] * AaronSchulz wishes he had all the db config for rdb stuff still lying around [00:12:15] maybe $scope should be passed to the onTransactionIdle closure, to be rigorous [00:12:54] no doubt the callback will be called before the database is changed, but it's best to be on the safe side, right? [00:13:46] 03(mod) migrateUserGroup.php should invalidate object cache and update user_touched for affected users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40340 +comment (10Krenair) [00:13:52] 03(mod) [SM] #ask format=map produces map with extra

above it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34279 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:14:26] yeah, it should [00:14:45] 03(mod) `map' format ignores `intro', `outro' and `default'? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32409 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:15:10] 03(mod) If there're other links on the same page (whatever they are), categorylinks are always converted to another variant (if such categories exist) no matter whether categories in the given variant exist or not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33210 +comment (10Krenair) [00:15:24] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIError::getLatitude() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31377 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:16:04] 03(mod) [SM] Add support for Wikipedia Koordinate Format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30749 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:16:51] 03(mod) ContentHandler's inability to create redirects for certain content models should be reflected in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42915 +comment (10Krenair) [00:17:24] 03(mod) SemanticMediaWiki: New page properties: "Last editor is" and "Is a new page". - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34359 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:18:29] 03(mod) Yandex maps patch review & merge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35522 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:21:03] 03(mod) Semantic Maps not showing maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37831 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:22:08] 03(mod) Use a checkbox in Special:Institutions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38490 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:23:55] 03(mod) SemanticMaps query seems to ignore header and link parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39335 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:24:35] TimStarling: ideally it would only reserve the db during the closure [00:25:12] 03(mod) Include language name placeholder in message livetranslate-translate-to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26845 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:25:32] 03(mod) glusterfs log files are not rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41104 +comment (10Andrew Bogott) [00:26:15] 03(mod) glusterfs log files are not rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41104 (10Andrew Bogott) [00:26:18] though you have to attach the callback to a db, and you want it to be using the same database, so I don't see a way around it [00:26:23] oh well [00:26:37] it's a small distinction [00:27:04] 03(mod) Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "smw_tmp_unusedprops" LINE 1: ...iesSpecial Mioze7Ae */ OR REPLACE FUNCTION create_"smw_tmp_u... ^ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34855 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:27:21] 03(mod) Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "smw_tmp_unusedprops" LINE 1: ...iesSpecial Mioze7Ae */ OR REPLACE FUNCTION create_"smw_tmp_u... ^ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34855 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:27:57] 03(mod) enter_bug.cgi?format=guided not properly configured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36762 (10Valerie Juarez) [00:28:56] 03(mod) Semantic Maps does not export coordinates in RDF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33504 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:28:58] 03(NEW) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722 enhancement; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [00:30:11] New review: RobLa; "It would appear as though there's a lot of non-critical refactoring mixed in with (what I understand..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35807 [00:32:13] New patchset: Hoo man; "AbuseFilter: Performance optimization" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42501 [00:32:23] 03(mod) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722 (10Chris McMahon) [00:32:33] TimStarling: this onTransactionIdle() stuff really only matters for the main local DB. If all handles for a foreign db had a pending trx, then they should be "reserved" anyway, and thus getMasterDB() would just return a new connection without a trx. [00:32:56] hmm, maybe there is a way to make that a tad less confusing [00:33:44] all I wanted was ", $scope" in the use() [00:34:16] 03(mod) [Enhancement] Interactive Graphs using JavaScript InfoVis Toolkit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32877 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:35:01] 03(mod) [Enhancement] Interactive Graphs using JavaScript InfoVis Toolkit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32877 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:36:10] TimStarling: done [00:37:49] 03(mod) SemanticMaps 2.1 alpha minzoom and maxzoom not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42158 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [00:40:19] hrm [00:40:20] New patchset: Mwalker; "(FR#724) Amazon Audit - Enable Refund Auditing" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42702 [00:40:36] TimStarling: or not :) [00:40:43] Could not apply bb0a71c... [JobQueue] Added support for using an external DB. [00:43:22] testing 'cluster' while at it [00:44:41] looks fine [00:44:52] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added support for using an external DB." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39716 [00:47:31] New review: RobLa; "This is for bug 43707, right? Could you list this in the commit message? Thanks!" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42581 [00:48:44] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39716 [00:50:38] 03(mod) problems with 0 as a label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43585 +comment (10Krenair) [00:50:51] Dereckson: I have some code written up and I would like your option on it. Is it better to talk to you over it and get it perfect before pushing to gerrit or pushing it to gerrit for you to look and comment on it? [00:51:08] option -> opinion [00:51:56] TimStarling: of course such a scheme will require make the db/tables and adding a line or two to addWiki.php [00:52:17] yes [00:53:32] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [00:54:03] 03(mod) Add step-backwards from "thanks" with file errors to "describe" to allow changes if necessary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37468 +comment (10Krenair) [00:55:22] 03(mod) Semantic Forms cannot create file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30034 +comment (10badon) [00:57:14] terrrydactyl: you have a third option, maybe useful here: can push your code to Gerrit in draft mode [00:57:25] The command is "git review -d". [00:57:38] Dereckson: oh awesome! that's exactly what i'm looking for [00:57:40] Only the people you add as reviewer can see it. [00:57:48] (and you've an extra backup) [00:58:17] (and before to "publish it" (ie transform ir to regular code review), you can clean, remove old patchset, etc.) [00:58:55] 03(mod) Special:EducationProgram times out when not cached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42923 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [00:59:19] New patchset: Spage; "test isValid" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [01:00:18] New review: Hoo man; "Re to Krinkle: Those are some good ideas. My aim is to make the patrolling system finally major and ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41196 [01:04:13] New review: Hoo man; "Backwards on forwards compatibility. Still WIP" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42501 [01:07:41] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Javascript fix - "for ... in ..." changed to "for (;;)"" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42706 [01:09:20] terrrydactyl: You appear to be go for Wednesday, and you should bring an ethernet cable if you want fast(ish) interwebs [01:09:33] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42706 [01:09:57] marktraceur: okay, i'll bring one [01:11:42] Dereckson: git review -d doesn't seem like it's the right command [01:12:00] Noooope [01:12:11] terrrydactyl: -D [01:12:20] oh okay [01:12:28] terrrydactyl: And git review help :) [01:12:38] Or rather git help review [01:12:42] Order matters [01:14:21] terrrydactyl: yes, -D is for draft, and -d to download a change [01:14:25] if yo02:09:32 < gerrit-wm> Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42706 [01:14:33] Heh :) [01:14:41] u're in your SemanticForms folder you can download this with gerrit -d 42706 for example [01:14:48] (if you're) [01:15:25] (thank you Firefox, to consume so much CPU, it freezes my terminal, which eats characters) [01:15:48] i have the git review -d written down to use when i want to amend to a change set [01:16:35] I uploaded the code to the draft and added Dereckson as a reviewer. it's not much but i want to know if there's any glaring mistakes/style problems. [01:16:58] Okay. Let's see that. [01:17:28] i'm so used to python now that remembering my semi-colons escapes me. every time i run the program, it tells me that i missed a semi-colon. heh. [01:17:56] terrrydactyl: You'll get used to it :) [01:17:59] If you use the console, you can quickly check the syntax with php -l file.php [01:18:16] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 20850) Add global_user_groups variable to AbuseFilter" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [01:18:20] and I agree with marktraceur, it's quick to get used to the syntax [01:18:52] New review: Hoo man; "Added a comment to be able to localize the message" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [01:19:00] yeah. i started writing in c, c++, and java so semi-colons were the norm and when i was learning python, i kept adding the semi-colons, now it's the opposite. it should right itself soon! [01:19:37] New review: Hoo man; "Merging as this works fine :) (The earlier errors were caused by my messed dev. DB)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [01:19:38] Change merged: Hoo man; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38895 [01:20:26] 03(mod) AbuseFilter: Global groups in user_groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20850 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [01:21:48] 03(NEW) Refine hideAll and endTour behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43723 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [01:23:05] 03(mod) Link trail round-tripping is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43661 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [01:23:59] 03(mod) Add non-English wiki support to Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43332 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [01:24:28] 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692 +comment (10Huji) [01:25:12] 03(mod) problems with 0 as a label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43585 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [01:29:07] 03(mod) Find common range box must always flow left-to-right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42019 +comment (10Huji) [01:32:22] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Removed useless keys() function from BagOStuff." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42709 [01:36:12] New review: CSteipp; "I think there are some logic errors that need to be addressed before we can merge this." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33971 [01:38:57] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 43661) Added test for special link trail case" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42699 [01:39:05] 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692 +comment (10Valerie Juarez) [02:01:11] New patchset: Kaldari; "Setting up flyout formatting as a separate formatting option" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [02:08:32] Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42702 [02:21:54] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Bump GettingStarted to deploy bugzilla 43255." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42716 [02:25:24] New review: Ori.livneh; "Thanks! LGTM, save for a couple of noisy comments. Drop them and I'll merge." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [02:26:21] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42395 [02:29:05] New review: Spage; "Assuming you followed http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_deploy_code#Case_1c:_extension_updat..." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42716 [02:29:06] Change merged: Spage; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42716 [02:43:38] New review: Mattflaschen; "This is why we do code review..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42375 [02:48:11] 03(mod) RC logging issue with instance creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36515 (10Mike Wang) [02:54:40] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [03:07:19] New review: Mattflaschen; "My mistake. It is not a bug since it only returns from the inner each callback function." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42375 [03:09:53] 03(mod) labs-nfs1 nfs export for home is full - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36127 (10Mike Wang) [03:12:36] 03(mod) Add request queue for project membership - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43514 (10Mike Wang) [03:14:26] 03(mod) Automatically updated list of all configured domains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43580 (10Mike Wang) [03:18:16] 03(mod) Set up a "file dropbox" or similar for temporary storage of files pending server-side upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31828 (10Mike Wang) [03:21:41] 03(mod) "Set $wgLogo to the URL.." in the default MediaWiki logo should be internationalized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43680 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [03:23:51] 03(mod) accommodate project-specific puppet git branches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35737 (10Mike Wang) [03:29:35] 03(NEW) UnicodeDecodeError - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43724 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EventLogging; () [03:34:55] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10Dereckson) [03:35:02] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [03:35:59] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fixed incorrect path in wikidiff2.ini" [mediawiki/php/wikidiff2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42718 [03:36:27] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/php/wikidiff2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42718 [03:38:46] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Exclude period from valid tour names when attempting to parse." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42719 [03:38:56] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 +comment (10Dereckson) [03:45:22] 03(mod) Add Antarctic monuments to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42165 +comment (10Dereckson) [03:51:14] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fixed distribution in changelog" [mediawiki/php/wikidiff2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42720 [03:53:41] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/php/wikidiff2] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42720 [04:04:55] New patchset: Spage; "Update beacon image server to new JSON format." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42721 [04:23:59] qgil_: sorry, went off to give a talk and stuff, couldn't respond [04:25:23] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use the correct target URL for documentation" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42691 [04:27:38] 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [04:28:15] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "(Bug 43724) Declare UTF8 encoding on logfile output" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42722 [04:28:29] New review: Santhosh; "Moved the link construction to mw.translate namespace." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42691 [04:28:49] 03(mod) UnicodeDecodeError - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43724 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [04:40:34] New patchset: Spage; "Update beacon image server to new JSON format." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42721 [04:43:20] ! [04:43:21] ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [04:43:40] * Isarra grabs wm-bot and runs away. [04:52:20] How does mediawiki handle two things trying to, say, write to the same table at the same time? [04:52:52] Table contention is handled by the database, not MediaWiki [04:53:06] Oh. [04:53:07] How? [04:53:18] Locking. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/internal-locking.html [04:54:06] So is that why you have transactions? [04:54:17] Kinda. [04:54:44] The classic example for illustrating (one) need for transactions is this: [04:55:39] Suppose you're running a bank, and would like to process a transfer of $5 from Isarra to Reedy [04:56:09] You need to update two values. Namely, you need to subtract $5 from the balance of Isarra's account, and add $5 to Reedy's [04:56:10] * Isarra eyes Reedy suspiciously. [04:57:08] If something happens to the database such that only one of those updates completes, you end up with $5 disappearing into a black hole. [04:59:34] Eep. [05:10:20] Silly question... if you're $dbw->inserting, how do you make use of auto-increment? [05:11:46] it depends on the back-end, but w/MySQL, again, it's managed for you [05:12:14] So just ignore that part and specify the rest and it'll handle it? [05:12:23] exactly [05:12:43] ...huh. [05:14:29] Is there any way to do that and then get the auto-incremented field back? [05:15:02] Then again, it'd be pretty useless if there weren't, wouldn't it... [05:16:28] Isarra: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/example-auto-increment.html [05:17:36] ori-l: I'm using these wonderful wrapper functions I don't understand with this magical database I don't understand. [05:17:51] /clear [05:17:57] Isarra: you're using Rails? [05:19:54] No, I'm trying to insert deleted revisions into an active wiki's text table, but since the wiki is active other stuff is also being inserted and thus the way to get the last old_id doesn't apply anymore and looks rather completely silly to boot, although this was perl, so maybe that's to be expected? [05:19:56] I dunno. [05:20:50] * Isarra hides behind Susan. [05:23:22] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 42942) WIP: Add standalone jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42723 [05:34:51] 03(mod) labs-nfs1 nfs export for home is full - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36127 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [05:36:53] What does insertSelect do? [05:42:24] inserts the result of a select query into a table [05:42:34] Ah. [05:42:39] Thanks. [05:49:35] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10rogerhc) [05:58:06] 03(mod) Redundant interface messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43695 +comment (10Thomas Bleher) [06:03:40] What does $dbr->freeResult( $result ); actually do? [06:13:05] Krenair: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:AliciaSE&rcid=713129 looks deletable [06:20:44] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 42942) WIP: Add standalone jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42723 [06:22:49] Where is the bloody documentation? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access [06:23:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42691 [06:23:23] I mean, that's an overview, but it does not effectively document the actual stuff and as such I am going to stab someone. [06:23:25] Good day. [06:24:03] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 42942) WIP: Add standalone jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42723 [06:24:04] New review: Nikerabbit; "Wouldn't we rather want to know if $r is unset to fix the problem instead of hiding it?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42577 [06:25:58] New patchset: Santhosh; "Avoid outdated warning on all messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42724 [06:26:01] But seriously, do you just stick the insert and other things inside the begin and commit and poof, profit? [06:28:50] New patchset: Spage; "Remove obsolete schema.OpenTask dependency." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42725 [06:36:26] New patchset: Spage; "Changes to match latest Schema:GettingStarted" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42726 [06:38:33] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42724 [06:45:02] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42722 [06:45:13] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update beacon image server to new JSON format." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42721 [06:46:27] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42721 [06:49:16] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10rogerhc) [06:50:41] New review: Nikerabbit; "Just to make sure, have you checked that there are no callers of the deprecated methods in core and ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41587 [06:59:15] New review: Nikerabbit; "Same as in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42577/" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42579 [07:09:14] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 42942) Add standalone jquery.uls" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42723 [07:26:54] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10Foroa) [07:28:46] New review: Siebrand; "What do you propose is done if $r is not set?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42577 [07:36:25] New patchset: Spage; "Move account_create server-side event from ACUX." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42733 [07:54:14] New review: Spage; "Next version addresses review comments except for additional validationCases." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [07:54:27] New patchset: Spage; "test isValid" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [07:54:36] New patchset: Spage; "test isValid" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [07:55:10] 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692 +comment (10reza1615) [07:59:22] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update wording" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42734 [08:08:06] 03(mod) Spam filter not filtering majority of spam to Junk folder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43665 (10Legoktm) [08:08:31] New review: Nikerabbit; "Looks like this causes" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42248 [08:19:26] New review: Ori.livneh; "Code looks fine, but can you add it to E3Experiments instead?" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42733 [08:20:20] New review: Ori.livneh; "Oh, you can't, because E3Experiments isn't enabled everywhere MobileFrontend is. Got it." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42733 [08:21:05] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32220 [08:21:50] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42733 [08:27:49] New review: Ori.livneh; "Why do you need the "var thisCase = this;"?" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [08:28:49] Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42671 [08:29:30] 03(mod) Upload from Flickr only fetches the first 50 items of a set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42979 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [09:12:42] 03(mod) Since the last update no error message is reported if you try to save a item with same description + label as another item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43720 (10Beta16) [09:16:18] 03(mod) Update Jenkins to LTS 1.480.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41973 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:16:27] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Unbreak group workflow state selector" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42735 [09:17:28] MaxSem: Is this your code possibly? [08-Jan-2013 09:12:25 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in /www/translatewiki.net/w/includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 [09:17:38] no [09:17:39] jeroendedauw_1: Is this your code possibly? [08-Jan-2013 09:12:25 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in /www/translatewiki.net/w/includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 [09:17:55] Yep, Maps. [09:19:08] 03(NEW) Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43726 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; () [09:19:09] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Siebrand) [09:19:15] jeroendedauw_1: ^^ [09:20:24] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42735 [09:22:06] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Update Translate to pick up a bug fix" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42736 [09:22:52] 03(mod) [TUX] [Language Selector] Cannot select message documentation language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43347 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:23:15] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42736 [09:26:54] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10This, that and the other) [09:27:08] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42556 [09:31:55] 03(mod) [TUX] [Language Selector] Depends on ULS extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42942 +comment (10Siebrand) [09:32:06] 03(mod) [TUX] [Language Selector] Depends on ULS extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42942 (10Siebrand) [09:35:47] 03(NEW) Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43727 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ReplaceText; () [09:45:19] 03(mod) [TUX] [Language Selector] Cannot select message documentation language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43347 +comment (10Pau Giner) [09:47:39] 03(NEW) "You have x new messages from y users" should not count minor edits by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43728 enhancement; MediaWiki: Interface; () [09:59:42] 03(mod) set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 10 for fa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43630 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:04:10] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42740 [10:18:47] Change merged: Matthias Mullie; [mediawiki/extensions/GeoCrumbs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42597 [10:22:50] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [10:22:53] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [10:22:56] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [10:26:11] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 41763) Add a hook for support uls-preferences" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37791 [10:26:11] New patchset: Amire80; "Preferences tests" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42591 [10:26:41] 03(mod) Special page to identify most likely properties for an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41054 (10jeblad) [10:28:59] 03(mod) 2 Fatals on ApiGetEntities.php line 129 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43330 (10jeblad) [10:30:10] 03(mod) 2 Fatals on ApiGetEntities.php line 129 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43330 (10jeblad) [10:30:11] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to Wikibase\EntityContentFactory::getTitleForId() must be an instance of Wikibase\EntityId, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42795 (10jeblad) [10:31:48] 03(NEW) git-deploy minions should get files under /mnt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43729 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); () [10:33:00] 03(mod) git-deploy minions should get files under /mnt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43729 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:33:03] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:33:09] 03(mod) Make 'whatlinkshere' a red link on orphaned pages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16989 normal->15enhancement (10Mormegil) [10:33:27] 03(mod) TimedMediaHandler: 2x implode() Invalid arguments passed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43686 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [10:41:08] hashar: got master key? :-) [10:41:20] saper: master ? [10:41:29] MaxSem: do you use Solarium for your connection to Solr? [10:41:35] yes [10:41:46] MaxSem: which versions of Solarium and Solr do you use? [10:41:58] 03(mod) Make 'whatlinkshere' a red link on orphaned pages, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16989 (10Daniel Friesen) [10:42:19] 2.4.1 / 3.6.0 [10:42:29] hashar: recent jenkins vulnerability [10:42:35] ok, thx. we will then use the same for wikidata for now. [10:43:05] saper: yeah that triggered the upgrade :-] [10:43:05] Solarium 3 had some dependency on Symfony and I wondered how you dealt with that [10:43:28] Denny_WMDE, Solr version is what we have packaged. this is a custom package as existing Debian packages are antiquated [10:44:34] Solarium 3 depends just on a particular Symfony component which can be easily grabbed by itself [10:45:21] ok. but for simplicity sake i would like to keep the same version as you already have used [10:45:37] however, Solarium 3 is incompatible with 2.4 on the API level and even after all the class names were fixed it still failed with GeoData so the switch to it is a bit stashed [10:45:49] so solarium 2.4.1 and solr 3.6.0 it is :) [10:46:04] all you need is solr 3.1 for the geostuff anyway i assume [10:46:10] 03(mod) Localize captcha images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5309 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [10:46:11] you are not using any solr4 features? [10:46:19] Denny_WMDE, you should know that Nikerabbit pushes for an upgrade though [10:46:26] i had trouble to make my solr3 schemas compatible with solr4 anyway :( [10:46:27] I don't [10:46:49] well, we'll update once it's updated. when does solr get installed? [10:46:52] or is it already? [10:46:55] since yesterday? [10:46:56] 03(mod) git-deploy minions should get files under /mnt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43729 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:48:13] New patchset: J; "Bug 43686: dont implode if getStreamTypes returns false" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42744 [10:48:46] since a few months ago [10:48:53] ah sweet [10:48:57] do you have HW for it? [10:49:05] so solr 3.6.0 is running for en.wp? [10:49:11] HW? like in "hardware"? [10:49:16] 03(mod) TimedMediaHandler: 2x implode() Invalid arguments passed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43686 +comment (10Jan Gerber) [10:49:17] yes/yes [10:49:25] er. no. [10:49:26] 03(mod) Allow blocking open proxies based on X-Forwarded-For header (XFF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23343 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [10:50:09] where does the geosolr run? [10:50:20] where as in...? [10:51:18] on what hardware? [10:51:33] 6 high-end servers [10:51:47] 12 cores, 64 gigs RAM, SSD [10:52:11] :o [10:52:38] and it's using all of it? [10:52:45] noooo [10:52:46] or can we just hang into that? [10:53:05] we haven't even officially announced it [10:53:13] 03(mod) | (vertical bar) character is not accepted in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43136 (10jeblad) [10:53:13] ah, ok [10:53:44] 03(mod) use scap to deploy on apaches (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37078 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:53:44] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:53:51] so, we can just hang into that hardware you think? [10:54:49] 03(mod) Deploy git-deploy to the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43339 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:54:51] I don't know. in principle, the solr cluster was ordered only with spattial search in mind: the load should be considerable once we activate the nearby functionality on the mobile site [10:55:12] we don't know how heavy though [10:56:08] also, you will need to develop a heterogenous cores support in puppet [10:56:54] my current multicore work isn't merged yet and it assumes that all cores use the same schema/configuration [10:57:05] can you give me a point me to your code? [10:57:31] why would we need heterogeneous core support? can't we live with one schema? [10:57:37] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/29827/ [10:58:01] if you want to use our servers, we'll have to share them [10:58:58] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [10:59:09] we should initially have a much lower load than the one you are expecting [10:59:15] this might change over time though [10:59:27] what do you want to use it for? [10:59:36] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [10:59:45] for now, multilingual search in wikidata. that should be very cheap [11:00:01] "should" [11:00:08] later, query answering with conjunctive queries over documents [11:00:22] should be cheap due to the fact that wikidata will never be heavily used i guess [11:00:26] it is a backrgound service [11:01:15] the advantage of the conjunctive queries will be that they will be heavily cached, and we can rerun them mostly on our own schedule [11:01:18] 03(mod) iframe embeds should allow fullscreen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42098 (10Jan Gerber) [11:01:23] what MW development made me sure of is that if you give users a feature ,they make sure they (ab)use it heavily in the ways you've never imagined [11:01:36] yes, that is true :) [11:03:38] so my point is: if you want to grab some of my servers for your exclusive use, I must object as it's just 3 servers per datacenter [11:04:28] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38800 [11:04:49] I don't mind to share some of the servers for a while but heterogenous multicore support is needed [11:05:15] 03(mod) Warn anonymous users that we'll show their IP when they edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42954 (10jeblad) [11:05:37] understood. I don't think we require any servers for exclusive use [11:05:45] 03(mod) Video: non-square pixel aspect ratios are not detected properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42339 (10Jan Gerber) [11:06:00] 03(mod) Allow blocking open proxies based on X-Forwarded-For header (XFF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23343 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [11:06:09] 03(mod) Update Jenkins to LTS 1.480.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41973 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:06:13] and correct me if I am wrong, but for sharing we need to support different schemas — i.e. yours and ours [11:06:28] yes [11:06:40] 03(mod) Jenkins security issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43725 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:07:00] ok, i will keep that in mind. thx [11:07:17] timeframe for announcing your features? [11:08:26] yesterday's deployment unearthed some problems but I hope to resolve them soon and make an announcement on the WMF blog next week [11:08:34] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:08:39] 03(mod) EntityDiff must include claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43021 (10jeblad) [11:08:40] 03(mod) Cleanup EntityDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43326 (10jeblad) [11:08:45] 03(mod) Update Jenkins to LTS 1.480.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41973 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:08:52] Denny_WMDE, so my aforementioned commit adds scripts that create additional cores, but assume that all the cores share the same config [11:08:53] sweet. thanks for letting me know [11:09:33] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "grr, hybrid hooks. i'll fix it in Translate." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42248 [11:09:35] and thanks for walking the path of using solr in production :) [11:13:18] 03(NEW) Bugs with Gurumukhi text in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; () [11:25:02] 03(mod) Size limit for labels and descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43278 (10jeblad) [11:29:13] 03(mod) Add support for formatnum in JavaScript mw.msg() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40354 (10Siebrand) [11:30:41] 03(mod) Add support for formatnum in JavaScript mw.msg() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40354 +comment (10Siebrand) [11:31:44] 03(NEW) Modal warning during editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43731 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:32:08] 03(mod) Modal warning during editing of entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43731 (10jeblad) [11:35:19] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Fix hook signature (follow-up to I8b6a75a3)." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [11:36:49] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@Nikerabbit: I proposed a fix: I896d08b4. Still don't know how to set up Translate, so it's untested." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42248 [11:41:52] pls whitelist https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42570/ [11:44:30] 03(NEW) Make a special page to list "stub" items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43732 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:44:58] New patchset: J; "add index to image table to query by type" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35139 [11:49:47] New patchset: J; "add major_mime to query to use index" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42749 [11:52:57] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10Foroa) [11:53:07] 03(mod) Selecting "back" button after navigating to an article from the Watchlist page results in an empty page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43645 +comment (10Jon) [11:57:00] New review: Siebrand; "Daniel, there is extensive documentation on setting up translate: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [12:19:25] What is the reason for error message "Die Datei ist beschädigt oder eine aus anderweitigen Gründen nicht lesbare ZIP-Datei. Sie kann daher keiner ordnungsgemäßen Sicherheitsüberprüfung unterzogen werden." (mediawiki:bad-zip) while trying to upload ms *.xls file. The file had been upoaded before with no error. [12:34:00] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Send emails one by one like other MW emails" [mediawiki/extensions/PageCreationNotif] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42568 [12:36:55] carchaias: is it .xlsx file really? (Open Office XML)? [12:37:37] 03(mod) "Find and Replace" is missing when "Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more" is not checked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23942 +comment (10TMg) [12:40:02] Change abandoned: Nischayn22; "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42568/" [mediawiki/extensions/PageCreationNotif] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42381 [12:40:22] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add supervisord email alert script" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42752 [12:41:35] New patchset: Nischayn22; "renaming editor class" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42753 [12:44:30] sapre: no its an xls file (Excel97-2003) [12:46:17] Change abandoned: Nischayn22; "just to remove this from my long list :p" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35156 [12:57:27] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate broken for wmf wikis? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43682 (10Andre Klapper) [12:57:53] can I view the full source of this link and use it for my own wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal [12:58:27] rohitkav: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_portal&action=edit ? [12:59:03] 03(mod) Commons main_page for RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43678 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:04] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:17] 03(mod) [Regression] E-Mail notification mail: page names with "&" come as " &" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43070 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:31] if you want to export all necessary templates, use http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export [12:59:31] it is protected valhallasw and even when Iog in I can't view it fully. Can I use it for my own wiki? [13:00:35] 03(mod) [Regression] E-Mail notification mail: page names with "&" come as "&" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43070 summary (10T. Gries) [13:01:05] saper: no its an xls file (Excel97-2003) [13:02:11] 03(mod) "You have x new messages from y users" should not count minor edits by bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43728 (10Andre Klapper) [13:02:41] 03(mod) Redundant interface messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43695 (10Andre Klapper) [13:03:25] 03(NEW) Configure relevant extensions on test repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43733 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [13:04:03] 03(mod) GeoCrumbs: Call to a member function getParserOutput() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43719 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [13:04:26] New review: Parent5446; "Now I'm confused. Before, the timestamp itself was being used in the UID, because then uniqueness is..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [13:06:52] 03(mod) Implement scaleable graphing capability in a MediaWiki extension for Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43666 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:06:55] 03(mod) Dynamic charts/graphs in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39554 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:06:55] 03(mod) Add page views graph(s) to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41327 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:06:56] 03(mod) Add edit history graph(s) to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41329 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:06:56] 03(mod) Add graphs of user contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43667 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:08:52] New review: Parent5446; "Sorry about the long delay. Was out of the country. (PS, sounds good to me, even though it's already..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42289 [13:09:33] New review: Santhosh; "Qunit tests fails with this patchset. Mainly because of a wrong regex check in resources/mediawiki/m..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41808 [13:10:09] New patchset: Hashar; "Classes defined by SwiftFileBackend extension" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37512 [13:14:22] 03(NEW) "soft" uniqueness checks must only be performed on item creation. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43734 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [13:14:27] New review: Parent5446; "*sigh* Are people really that lazy? All you had to do was run the IP through wfIsTrustedProxy()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42204 [13:14:37] 03(mod) Since the last update no error message is reported if you try to save a item with same description + label as another item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43720 (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:14:39] 03(mod) "soft" uniqueness checks must only be performed on item creation. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43734 (10Daniel Kinzler) [13:14:52] 03(mod) Create AssertEdit component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43676 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [13:14:59] 03(mod) Create AntiBot component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43675 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:16:42] New review: Hashar; "I am squashing this change with the previous one. This change can be abandonned." [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37511 [13:17:18] New review: Hashar; "I have squashed the following change" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37510 [13:17:25] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Remember page creator in pagetriage tables" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42396 [13:18:05] 03(mod) Cross-wiki full resolution file links lacks the File: prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43626 +comment (10Jon) [13:20:01] 03(mod) The curation toolbar dies on a page created by the reviewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40958 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [13:20:01] 03(mod) Copyright allows raw HTML which could be used by admins to enforce logout of everyone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43646 summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:20:37] 03(mod) Cross-wiki full resolution file links lacks the File: prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43626 +comment (10Jon) [13:20:48] 03(mod) User can review self-created article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43670 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [13:21:52] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate broken for wmf wikis? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43682 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:22:23] New patchset: Nischayn22; "bug 43670 User cannot review self-created articles." [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42394 [13:22:55] 03(mod) Collapsing mw-collapsible tables is notably delayed (broken animation) in all browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31832 +comment (10TMg) [13:23:08] 03(mod) A table within a wikitext table breaks the outermost one under some conditions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9418 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:25:10] New patchset: Hashar; "function parameters no more considered as IN_FUNCTION" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37509 [13:25:10] New patchset: Hashar; "Add support for anonymous functions (closures)." [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37510 [13:25:10] New patchset: Hashar; "Classes defined by SwiftFileBackend extension" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37512 [13:27:50] New patchset: Nischayn22; "renaming editor class" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42753 [13:28:50] New patchset: Nischayn22; "changed MapEditor class name" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42756 [13:29:01] 03(mod) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722 (10Andre Klapper) [13:29:18] 03(mod) Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43726 (10Andre Klapper) [13:29:21] New patchset: Hashar; "Return non-zero when there were failures." [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37508 [13:29:21] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43727 (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:01] New review: Hashar; "changed die() to exit()" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37508 [13:30:02] Change merged: Hashar; [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37508 [13:30:32] 03(mod) have Persian (jalaly) input for #time Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43714 (10Andre Klapper) [13:30:47] hi [13:30:56] New patchset: Nischayn22; "changed MapEditor class name" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42756 [13:31:00] is it possible to restrict the access to a specialpage? [13:31:33] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [13:31:51] New patchset: Nischayn22; "renaming editor class" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42753 [13:33:55] New review: Netbrain; "Looks good! your not lazy at all! :) However your missing an indent." [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42753 [13:34:46] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 40067) Redirect user to main login form instead of OpenID." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [13:35:16] 03(mod) When used as a provider, if a user needs to login, then the extension should redirect to the login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40067 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [13:35:48] New review: Parent5446; "Could somebody please test this? Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the OpenID extension working on..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [13:35:48] New review: Hashar; "This is still creating a full language object for each interwiki which is overkill in my opinion. We..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/16610 [13:36:20] 03(mod) When used as a provider, if a user needs to login, then the extension should redirect to the login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40067 (10Tyler Romeo) [13:36:29] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [13:40:20] New patchset: Santhosh; "Correct the text area value change detection" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42758 [13:41:42] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@Siebrand: may take a while until I have time to get this working. If you need this quickly, I sugge..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [13:42:03] 03(mod) When used as a provider, if a user needs to login, then the extension should redirect to the login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40067 +comment (10T. Gries) [13:42:28] 03(mod) Some characters not correctly displayed for Gurumukhi text in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:44:14] lbenedix: yes, with the Lockdown extension# [13:44:19] !lockdown | lbenedix [13:44:19] lbenedix: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For per-page access protection, see !ppp. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see !access. [13:44:39] i only want to restrict the access to one specialpage [13:45:11] yes. use lockdown. [13:45:13] or evilö hacks [13:46:22] sounds strange... use an extension to restrict the access for a specialpage created by an extension [13:47:13] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Fix checkuser entries for automatic unhide" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42759 [13:47:23] 03(mod) Since the last update no error message is reported if you try to save a item with same description + label as another item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43720 (10jeblad) [13:47:24] 03(mod) No handling for when entering the same description for an item whose label exists twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43301 (10jeblad) [13:51:16] 03(mod) Some characters not correctly displayed for Gurumukhi text in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [13:55:10] New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37509 [13:55:36] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24264 [13:59:16] New review: Siebrand; "Nice. Almost there." [mediawiki/extensions/PageCreationNotif] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42568 [13:59:29] New patchset: Hashar; "function parameters no more considered as IN_FUNCTION" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37509 [13:59:30] New patchset: Hashar; "Add support for anonymous functions (closures)." [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37510 [13:59:30] New patchset: Hashar; "Classes defined by SwiftFileBackend extension" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37512 [13:59:52] New review: Hashar; "rebased / fixed conflicts" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37509 [13:59:59] New review: Hashar; "rebased / fixed conflicts" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37510 [14:00:06] New review: Hashar; "rebased / fixed conflicts" [mediawiki/tools/code-utils] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37512 [14:00:36] New patchset: Siebrand; "Live preview no longer experimental" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42763 [14:02:24] 03(NEW) [JJB] create a phplint template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43735 normal; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; () [14:02:40] 03(mod) [JJB] create a phplint template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43735 normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:02:53] hi andre__ [14:03:32] 03(NEW) [JJB] PHP lint mw/tools/code-utils repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43736 enhancement; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; () [14:03:59] 03(mod) [JJB] PHP lint mw/tools/code-utils repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43736 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:03:59] 03(mod) [JJB] create a phplint template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43735 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:04:00] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42763 [14:05:00] New review: Hashar; "+1 :-]" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42763 [14:05:21] hey. I have a private wiki. Is there any way to set the login screen as the first page a user is redirected to (instead of the "Error you must be logged in"-page)? [14:06:28] New patchset: Demon; "Provide ability to customize branch description on-wiki" [mediawiki/extensions/ExtensionDistributor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42764 [14:07:03] sven^ I think you can redirect this page to login page [14:07:17] it's in Mediawiki space [14:07:30] oh :P [14:07:36] @regsearch login [14:07:36] Results (Found 3): sharedlogins, sul, api, [14:07:51] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Corrected installation documentation and cleaned up SpecialSolrTest.php" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseSolr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42765 [14:07:51] ok, I'll have a look at it later, thanks. Just realized the server is unreachable -.- [14:10:04] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Corrected installation documentation and cleaned up SpecialSolrTest.php" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseSolr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42765 [14:10:47] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "Corrected installation documentation and cleaned up SpecialSolrTest.php" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseSolr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42765 [14:12:08] 03(mod) abusefilter cannot check file uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19565 (10Marius Hoch) [14:12:29] <^demon> Gerrit's going to be unavailable for just a short bit--rebooting manganese. [14:14:04] if you get a page which contains that text let me know [14:14:06] I can't find it [14:15:25] 03(mod) optional background colour aids people with dyslexia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43677 +comment (10Gerard Meijssen) [14:15:28] <^demon> 208.80.154.152 [14:15:33] <^demon> Gerrit's back up, whoops. [14:16:28] congratulations. [14:16:55] is there a list of all mediawiki space pages? [14:17:10] some that includes a description as well [14:17:20] petan: [[Special:Allpages]] ? [14:17:31] saper that contains shitty description :P [14:17:33] ah - see the source code and message files [14:17:41] + it only display pages that were overwritten [14:17:50] New review: Siebrand; "@Daniel: Then just say in the commit summary that you don't want to test instead of that you don't k..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [14:18:14] petan: yeah, MessagesQqq :) [14:18:26] where I find it? [14:18:31] translate wiki? [14:19:48] @search translate [14:19:48] Results (Found 4): i18n, translatewiki, ts, twn, [14:19:53] !translatewiki [14:19:53] You can help translating MediaWiki to your language at translatewiki.net [14:20:23] petan: it's there, too, but [14:20:30] petan: i think saper meant the MessageQqq.php file [14:20:42] MatmaRex can you link me to source code? or tell me path [14:20:52] \mediawiki\core\languages\messages [14:20:53] I don't want to clone whole repo just to get one file [14:20:57] ok [14:21:05] petan: do you know about gitweb? [14:21:11] yes [14:21:16] but I didn't know the path of file [14:21:20] petan: gerrit is slow atm [14:21:27] okay [14:21:37] petan: languages/messages/MessagesQqq.php or sth like that [14:21:58] yes that one [14:22:37] MatmaRex: I downloaded your release notes stuff yesterday, the only little problem right now - if you install the hook twice, it just addes another line to .gitattributes [14:22:52] so there are MediaWiki pages? [14:22:55] * these [14:23:05] that $messages array [14:23:18] or is that a description for some other special pages as well [14:23:56] mm [14:24:03] guess so [14:24:29] petan: values from those MessagesXX files are taken when no "MediaWiki:$key" page exists [14:24:36] ok [14:24:41] saper: yeah, IMO it should event touch that .gitattributes file, but use the one inside gitdir [14:24:49] MessagesEn.php contains all core messages [14:24:51] since i'm already putting the driver itself there [14:24:57] it shouldn't even* [14:25:13] MatmaRex: that's bug #2 :) [14:25:33] and bug #3 is to write an uninstaller as well :P [14:26:01] no, you don't want *that* [14:26:14] #3 is rewrite in non-ruby [14:26:21] i'd call that a #4 [14:26:23] and #4 make git-review install that automatically :):):) [14:26:33] i was wondering what would work out of the box most often [14:26:38] .bat :) [14:26:49] apart from bash script, which i'm not going to use, because the hell, man. [14:26:49] I think it could be written in /bin/sh maybe [14:27:02] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [14:27:09] i'd rather write it in brainfuck [14:27:23] it would be more maintainable [14:27:45] also, i should probably put it in a git repo somewhere. [14:28:10] gee, forgot to run pep8 on my code but looks like I got PEP8 habits already - jenkins approved the change :) [14:28:32] Hi there guillom [14:28:41] hi sumanah [14:29:15] guillom: andre__ and I were just talking about the January 22nd data center migration and I realized that I don't think we've COMMUNICATED out to the larger community about it at all [14:29:29] guillom: do you mind if I talk out some ideas with you here to help us decide what to do? [14:29:59] New review: saper; "Go ahead. RTL entry of IP address is another issue indeed." [mediawiki/extensions/CheckUser] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32920 [14:30:43] sumanah: actually I was just editing the related section of the monthly report [14:30:51] oho! [14:31:36] guillom: so, I shall look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/December for a moment and collect my thoughts [14:32:19] saper I could import whole list of these pages to wm-bot so that we could just do !MediaWiki:mytalk to resolve what is that page for - do you think it's a good idea or not? [14:32:20] sumanah: let me hit save; the section will be much clearer than what is currently there [14:32:29] because that insert some 3000 keys to infobot [14:32:34] that's a lot of [14:32:44] I this week will finish https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Ops,_2011-2013 so it can be reviewed Monday and posted next week, because part of the point of that post is to talk about how hard this thing is that they are doing [14:32:56] MaxSem: is there any documentation on what the dim parameter means? or scale? [14:33:08] petan: would be good if it were always up to date (git master) *and* if there was a search facility :) [14:33:09] or someone else has opinion on that? [14:33:17] there is that [14:33:23] done [14:33:26] it's @regsearch (or @search) [14:33:33] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoData [14:33:47] petan: didn't know that, thanks [14:33:47] keeping it up to date is another thing :P but outdated is better than none [14:33:47] 03(mod) Enhance imagescaler processes containment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43188 (10Andre Klapper) [14:33:59] MaxSem: I read that, it doesn't tell me what it means [14:34:05] * sumanah looks [14:34:12] what is a dim of 7? [14:34:56] maybe i am just overlooking it, sorry [14:34:58] object is approx. 7x7 meters [14:35:02] ah, btw: Thanks petan [14:35:08] dim - approximate size (or size's order of magnitude) of an object. Used by GeoData to restrict search and by Geohack for determining appropriate map zoom. [14:35:09] ok I make a backup :P [14:35:27] @infobot-snapshot before_inserting_MediaWiki_space [14:35:27] This is not a valid name for snapshot, you can only use a-zA-Z and 0-9 chars [14:35:31] petan: where's the code? [14:35:31] ah. so it is the size in meters ok, got it [14:35:40] @infobot-snapshot beforeinserting [14:35:40] Snapshot snapshots/#mediawiki/beforeinserting was created for current database as of 1/8/2013 2:35:40 PM [14:35:47] guillom: okay. So, I know there are strong possibilities that, during the switchover, *something(s)* will go wrong in a user-visible way. It's like one of our high-risk deployments but even more so [14:35:49] saper? [14:36:01] no idea what you mean [14:36:07] petan: bot code [14:36:08] MaxSem: so it is meter no matter what the globe? [14:36:11] Type @commands for list of commands. This bot is running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.10.6.0 source code licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot [14:36:13] github [14:36:25] thx [14:36:37] Denny_WMDE, ??? you mena that it should be in feet on the moon?:P [14:36:48] but if you are looking for sources of infobot it's in plugins/wmib_infobot [14:36:52] there is this l10n caching facility - maybe it's easier to use? not sure if it has qqq though [14:37:03] petan: never know which is which [14:37:04] guillom: filesystem paths... random queues and backlogs might accumulate or break in the weeks afterwards ... jobqueue, thumbnails, bits.wikimedia.org, RL, search ..... [14:38:19] guillom: so, I think it would be appropriate for us to do the kind of messaging we did for our last high-risk deployment: a short note to the tech embassies, a note to the ambassadors, and a translatable summary on meta or mediawiki.org [14:38:25] guillom: what is your perspective? [14:38:26] MaxSem: kind of. the zooming will be different whether i am on phobos or on Jupiter. I don't think feet is appropriate though. Just wondering if meter is, but that's the way you specifiy it, I'm OK with it [14:38:34] MaxSem: just trying to understand it [14:38:44] MaxSem: not to judge or critizise :) [14:39:49] sumanah: I'm not familiar with how dangerous / disruptive the change will be, so I'll trust you on the level of communication required. Is the general message "we're doing X, stuff might break now or later, brace yourselves", or do we want something from them as well? [14:40:21] 03(mod) Can't import pages from eo.wikibooks.org to eo.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43659 (10interretano) [14:40:23] Denny_WMDE, scale indeed makes less sense on the moon. and not much more on earth, actually. but dim is how large an object is. it's independent from screen resolution, map behaviour or whatever. therefore, GeoData always uses dim internally and recommends eveyone to use it, too [14:40:55] the former. although bug reporting, as always, is desired [14:41:24] sumanah: and feedback should be directed to bugzilla (i.e. no wiki feedback page or stuff like that), right? [14:41:48] andre__: your thoughts?^ [14:42:10] Or do we want people reporting issues on IRC as well during a specific time window, etc. [14:42:37] (meaning people have to be there to listen) [14:43:39] guillom, sumanah: yes, it's welcome in Bugzilla, but also link people to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug [14:43:43] MaxSem: thanks, got it [14:44:01] 03(mod) Allow stewards to block an IP locally on Meta-Wiki as part of the global block form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33585 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [14:44:01] 03(mod) Optionally place a local block when globally blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17824 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [14:44:33] andre__: *in case Bugzilla breaks* we should suggest a backup [14:44:37] that is less likely to break [14:45:34] sumanah: I have no idea what is "less likely to break" - that might require input from people who know(TM) [14:45:36] andre__: guillom: when RobLa shows up in our meeting in 45 min I figure I'll ask for his advice on *which* non-BZ feedback channel to mention [14:45:41] +1 [14:45:56] ok [14:45:59] IRC doesn't depend on us at all :-) so unless Freenode ALSO goes down on Jan 22nd it would be safest [14:46:05] ok, thanks both of you. [14:46:06] import is running in #mwbot :D [14:46:52] guillom: I'll probably be asking you to copy-and-paste and execute a communications plan on this next week, and I'm happy to write up the summary that needs to go out re the datacenter migration [14:48:13] sumanah: yup [14:49:48] 03(NEW) [REGRESSION][CORE] PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [14:49:59] 03(mod) Upload from Flickr only fetches the first 50 items of a set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42979 +comment (10Waldir) [14:50:04] 03(mod) [REGRESSION][CORE] PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 normal->04BLOCKER (10T. Gries) [14:50:10] 03(mod) Allow blocking open proxies based on X-Forwarded-For header (XFF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23343 (10Quentinv57) [14:50:39] hi sumanah :) [14:51:26] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 summary; +comment (10Max Semenik) [14:51:33] hi mitevam! back from lunch? [14:52:01] yes [14:52:01] New review: Anomie; "Looks ok. Although a better name for the type than "api", one that actually describes what it is rat..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37395 [14:52:05] :) [14:52:21] !MediaWiki:view [14:52:21] The default text of the View or Read (Vector) views tab which represents the basic view for the page. Should be in the infinitive mood. [14:52:27] :)) [14:52:34] mitevam: so, I've found one more source I want you to look at in case I hadn't pointed you to it before: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation [14:53:48] how do i add a link to a page in the sidebar like i i make a thing called *Featured and under it i want to link a certain wiki page of mine what string of code do i need to put into the editing media sidebar thing its confusing the mess out of me [14:54:06] 03(mod) Optionally place a local block when globally blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17824 (10Marco Aurelio) [14:54:58] !sidebar this? [14:54:58] To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [14:55:09] HelpPLox ^ [14:55:15] sumanah ok i will look now. i have looked at all other sources i had + some web browsing and have a list of probably 50-ish consultants, wiki farms, hosting companies, developers, and interesting single wikis. i haven't started collecting info yet to fill out the table [14:55:43] mitevam: okay! that's a good number to start with. I look forward to seeing the more extensive table :-) [14:55:45] wm-bot i have read that 3 times, and sir i dont understand how to make a custom link to a page of my choosing [14:56:17] HelpPLox you mean a link outside of wiki? [14:56:27] New review: Anomie; "Comments from PS12 could still use additional opinions, but none are really worth holding up a merge..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [14:56:49] sumanah do you have any suggestions on the best way to deal with tables on the wiki...? i mean just editing in a more user freindly way? [14:57:07] What im attempting to do is have a link lets call it "Tom" and i want it on the left sidebar and if people click the word "Tom" it will go to a url [14:57:40] kinda like a html link would do [14:58:01] HelpPLox url like "http://wikipedia.org/ or url like [[Some page]] [14:58:11] ya [14:58:32] HelpPLox, what is unclear in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Links exactly? Which parts are hard to understand? [14:58:38] <^demon> The sidebar page tells you what kind of links you can use. It's very near the beginning. [14:58:44] <^demon> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Links [14:59:10] so i cant have external links in the sidebar?> [14:59:10] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [14:59:21] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 04BLOCKER->normal (10T. Gries) [14:59:43] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 summary (10T. Gries) [14:59:54] <^demon> HelpPLox: You can. It says so in that section. [15:01:22] i tried using target|link text and when i replaced any of that with a http url it made a very long link [15:01:42] <^demon> ** http://mediawiki.org|MediaWiki [15:01:46] <^demon> ^ That's what I just did. [15:01:51] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [15:02:07] when i do that it shows the full http url [15:02:12] is somethen broke? [15:02:12] mitevam: so, editing them in a better way? sorry, no :( [15:02:24] mitevam: I hit Preview a lot when I am editing a table [15:02:38] to make sure that I have not accidentally removed important markup [15:03:15] and I pre-generate a table (using the Table dialog box from the Edit window .... have you seen that?) that has like 40 rows, so I can just replace the word "example" with my content [15:03:39] sumanah yes i saw that [15:03:49] there [15:03:51] it finally worked [15:03:52] yay [15:03:59] thanks demon [15:04:02] your a champ [15:04:21] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "New version: 0.6.4" [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42767 [15:04:26] !^demon is Demon is a champ, everybody knows that. [15:04:26] Key was added [15:04:45] <^demon> HelpPLox: You're welcome :) [15:05:00] sumanah : but I was just hoping there is some trick to import from a spreadsheet or sth like that ..i might come up with some trick exporting to csv and then replacing the commas with || for example [15:05:33] is there a way to add html just to the main page but no where else? [15:05:39] figure id ask while im here [15:05:41] mitevam: I have never done that, but it is likely possible -- there is probably a regex possible to convert a CSV to a MediaWiki table [15:06:42] mitevam: http://excel2wiki.net/ [15:06:58] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42767 [15:07:36] I think it strips pipe (|) symbols from the input instead of replacing them, though [15:07:49] oh, no, it fails in that aspect [15:07:55] aha, mitevam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table#Converting_spreadsheet_to_wikitable_format [15:08:04] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Show error message instead of sql error on name uniqueness restrction violation (bug 43656)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42589 [15:08:26] I should have known -- DanielK_WMDE_ (also known as brightbyte) created http://area23.brightbyte.de/csv2wp.php -- thanks DanielK_WMDE_! mitevam check this out. [15:08:26] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [15:08:47] what exactly is a community portal for [15:09:16] sumanah: heh, havn't touched that thing in like 8 years, but it's still running :P [15:09:20] horrible code, horrible... [15:10:24] sumanah that's great, i was going to reinvent the wheel but this should be better :) [15:10:37] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 43707) Also list planned courses on Special:MyCourses" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42581 [15:10:51] mitevam: I'm glad you asked here :D [15:10:52] there are also xls2wikitext-converters [15:11:40] sumanah i was pretty sure i'm not the first one to have the problem [15:12:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "This does not contain critical bug fixes. None of the minor things fixed here have been reported on ..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35807 [15:12:25] :) [15:13:12] mitevam: what I did was, go on English Wikipedia, set the search parameters to "help" and "Wikipedia" namespaces, and search for import table [15:13:45] mitevam: mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia.org, wikitech.wikimedia.org, and en.wikipedia.org are, in my experience, the places where one can find this sort of information [15:13:51] but it does take a bit of searching. :/ [15:15:01] New patchset: Rotsee; "Moving extension to Git. Was stored in a wiki page." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryMagicWords] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42768 [15:15:04] mitevam: how is Sofia? [15:15:16] sumanah yes i tried a bit but didn't find much [15:15:20] nod [15:15:46] mitevam: for background: DanielK_WMDE_ has been contributing to MediaWiki, first as a volunteer and then as the first paid developer at the Wikimedia Germany chapter, for about 8 years [15:15:49] sumanah: sofia is covered in snow , it snowed all day yesterday [15:15:59] a nice day to work from home ;-) [15:16:40] Daniel was also the person who *started* the Berlin hackathon, the now traditional yearly developer meeting where people get together to work on MediaWiki and to meet the people they exchange email with all year :-) [15:17:05] hi DanielK_WMDE_ and thank you for the "horrible code" :) [15:17:08] this year it will be in Amsterdam https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 [15:17:45] DanielK_WMDE_: mitevam is Mariya, an intern with Wikimedia who is working with me to talk with vendors and do data dumps product management [15:17:50] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42740 [15:17:50] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42740 [15:18:03] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [15:18:07] there is a bird out the window that I think had a red front! was it a robin! or a cardinal! I don't know but it was unusual and exciting [15:18:14] haha sumanah i am always suspicious of conferences in Amsterdam :) [15:18:20] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 (10T. Gries) [15:18:29] sumanah: arn't cardinals fully red? [15:18:40] I think this one had black on its head? [15:19:06] it flew away. ah well. Who needs coffee when there are exciting avian dinosaurs! (I do) [15:20:03] used to have a cardinal live outside my window in nyc :) [15:20:03] mitevam: I have NEVER BEEN to Amsterdam despite 2-3 times when I ought to have gone and something went awry! I hope I get to go this year. And maybe you can come too :-) (despite your suspicions) [15:21:52] <^demon> I used to have a woodpecker live outside my window at my parents place. [15:21:55] <^demon> He was an early riser. [15:21:57] mitevam: the individual Wikimedia chapters have their own sites, which are often MediaWiki installations (example: http://uk.wikimedia.org/ ). But each of these installations is usually only about 10-50 users and < 1000 pages.... they are not usually power users, in my opinion. [15:22:06] New patchset: Siebrand; "Split date and time in running sentence" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42769 [15:22:06] ^demon: So you had Nature's Alarm Clock? [15:22:29] <^demon> Yes. And he preferred pecking on the gutters, rather than anything wooden. [15:22:31] <^demon> So it echoed. [15:22:51] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42769 [15:23:12] ^demon what did you do ? [15:23:54] <^demon> I complained. [15:24:49] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 42064) AbuseFilter + EditFilterMergedContent" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42268 [15:24:50] sumanah i though you wanted me to look for vendors on the page you sent me but I am now guessing that you just wanted me to read it (which I already did before actually) since I don't see any vendor info. am I right? [15:25:44] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "Rebased and manually adjusted this patch to some changed that have been added since this has first b..." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42268 [15:26:29] mitevam: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation ? Ah you had read it already, good. Basically, it seems to me that some of the people who talked about this idea will be happy that there is going to be more momentum for getting people together and talking to each other about MediaWiki work *outside WMF* [15:28:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_Foundation has some discussion worth reading; I don't agree with some of the perspectives there but it's worth seeing that there are people who believe these things [15:29:44] I prefer for us to be more lightweight (and certainly during your internship that's more appropriate), using existing mailing lists & setting up conference calls & simply incrementally building community [15:29:56] sumanah, morning. Is there a hangout invitation? [15:30:02] sumanah i was just looking at the talk page actually :) [15:30:09] hi qgil, not yet, I'll do that in a moment, sorry [15:30:21] mitevam: I have to split and hit a meeting! talk with you in 45 min [15:30:35] sumanah, you might want to just activate t in the weekly invitation for future meetings [15:30:35] sumanah ok ! [15:30:40] yeah [15:31:03] you're right qgil [15:35:43] New review: Siebrand; "Quick review." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryMagicWords] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42768 [15:37:25] is there a way to embed a video on the main page [15:37:38] like a youtube video [15:37:48] !video [15:37:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Media_handling_extensions [15:38:30] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [15:38:34] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "(bug 42064) AbuseFilter + EditFilterMergedContent" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42268 [15:38:36] New patchset: Nischayn22; "bug 42307 A way to blacklist flickr users." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42770 [15:38:47] New review: Siebrand; "i18n and coding style review." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticExtraSpecialProperties] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39041 [15:39:41] !pretty [15:39:41] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !logo, [15:39:44] dammit [15:39:46] !prettyurls [15:39:47] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [15:39:53] !pretty alias prettyurls [15:39:54] Alias is already existing [15:40:02] okay, what. [15:40:03] !pretty [15:40:04] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !logo, [15:40:15] petan: explain this to me, please. :( [15:40:19] petan: ^ [15:41:26] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [15:41:31] New review: Siebrand; "FUBAR in 18n." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [15:44:56] 03(NEW) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 normal; MediaWiki: Database; () [15:45:03] 03(mod) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 (10T. Gries) [15:46:48] MatmaRex hi [15:47:12] MatmaRex ok !pretty is linking to unexisting key? [15:47:31] it's not [15:47:44] pretty is linking to prettyurls which is a link to shorturl [15:47:53] !pretty should be the same as !prettyurls [15:47:53] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !logo, [15:47:54] ah. [15:47:59] you can't link to another link, only if it's a key [15:48:05] !pretty unalias [15:48:05] Alias removed! [15:48:07] D: [15:48:10] !pretty alias shorturl [15:48:10] Created new alias for this key [15:48:13] !pretty [15:48:13] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [15:48:13] the bot should probably notify you if you do that [15:48:27] i had no idea !prettyurls wasn't the canonical name [15:48:28] 03(mod) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [15:48:29] in fact you can create a key with same name as alias [15:48:34] then it would work :P [15:48:39] yes it should tell you [15:48:43] will fix [15:48:53] thanks :) [15:49:03] btw there is bugzilla for wm-bot [15:49:05] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Use Status object to report filter results." [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42772 [15:49:11] with 0 tickets :P [15:49:17] which makes me feel this bot has no bugs [15:50:12] petan: I can make up invalid bugs if you want :P [15:50:24] wm-bot forgot to give me a sandwich [15:50:43] wm-bot doesn't swear at me like the old bot used to when I abused it [15:50:49] wm-bot: shame on you [15:50:49] Hi petan, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-) [15:51:01] * bawolff beats wm-bot [15:51:11] The old bot beat me back [15:51:17] bawolff but it only does it once in 15 minutes to avoid spam abuse [15:51:25] wm-bot: shame on you [15:51:26] ah [15:51:45] it can be changed [15:52:15] Value of respond-wait can't be 1, please use correct data type [15:52:26] Value 2 was stored into respond-wait to config [15:52:33] wm-bot: shame on you [15:52:33] Hi petan, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-) [15:52:37] here we go [15:52:42] now it's 2 seconds only [15:52:59] New review: Siebrand; "i18n/L10n review passed." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42589 [15:55:26] New review: Kghbln; "Recently I have done some changes, to the code in wiki, too. Some of it is congruent to Siebrand's c..." [mediawiki/extensions/CategoryMagicWords] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42768 [15:56:41] Value 640 was stored into respond-wait to config [15:58:36] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [16:02:22] is there a way to embed videos on the main page [16:02:23] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42520 [16:02:25] like youtube videos [16:03:01] HelpPLox: there's many, but they all require an extension [16:03:27] HelpPLox: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Video_player_extensions [16:03:38] New review: Siebrand; "See inline comment. Cause for -1 on PS3." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [16:04:21] which one do u recommend for youtube [16:04:23] and flash [16:05:32] 03(mod) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 +comment (10T. Gries) [16:05:44] I haven't used any of them personally (The only video extensions I've used are oggHandler and TimedMediaHandler, which aren't quite what you're looking for), but as a general rule: [16:05:56] Avoid anything with a security warning on its extension page [16:06:14] Use extensions that are in some form of version control (svn, git) [16:06:24] generally code in wiki page extensions are scary [16:06:25] New review: Siebrand; "See comment on PS2. The help link is localised now, but should be in content language." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [16:06:51] Things in version control of some sort are better extensions (broadly speaking, there are exceptions) [16:07:02] Things in Wikimedia's version control are even better [16:07:18] 03(mod) Can't import pages from eo.wikibooks.org to eo.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43659 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Dereckson) [16:07:29] and things used by Wikimedia are generally the highest quality extensions (Wikimedia doesn't use any flash video extensions though) [16:11:32] New patchset: Nischayn22; "bug 43320 upload from flickr fails with same titles" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42775 [16:13:09] 03(mod) Files from flickr with same filename are uploaded to same title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43590 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [16:13:21] 03(mod) optional background colour aids people with dyslexia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43677 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:13:35] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42734 [16:13:56] New review: Umherirrender; "Is like I57fe2d85" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42537 [16:14:39] 03(mod) Find common range box must always flow left-to-right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42019 (10Quentinv57) [16:15:17] 03(mod) Upload from flickr randomly fails for some images sharing same title in a set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43320 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [16:15:34] New patchset: Anomie; "Clean up LocalisationUpdate" [mediawiki/extensions/LocalisationUpdate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42777 [16:16:06] andre__: I'm done with the spam :) [16:17:36] guillom: hah. so many emails. Thanks, I'll give them a shot :) [16:18:44] New patchset: Siebrand; "Follow-up Ibb9d4c9a: Ignore 'abusefilter-message'" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42778 [16:19:04] hi mitevam I am back from my meeting and about to read backscroll :) [16:20:50] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Send emails one by one like other MW emails" [mediawiki/extensions/PageCreationNotif] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42568 [16:21:32] qgil: So, I think 2011 was the first WMF-sponsored MediaWiki dev event in India -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events reminds me that it was in Mumbai. There were certainly events in the past that were either organized by enthusiastic individuals or other groups [16:22:07] qgil: for example, I know that in 2010 Danese was at FOSS.in, and I think WMF people had also gone to FOSS.in in previous years, and they might have also spontaneously hacked with people [16:22:15] sumanah i am working on my table, will probably take a WHILE... [16:22:18] :) [16:22:34] mitevam: okay :) I hope most of the work is going into research & writing rather than tedious markup problems! [16:22:59] New review: Matmarex; "(See inline.)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:23:16] sumanah, thanks. Who were the main organizers of these events? For instance, who pushed the Bangalore / Pune hackathons in November? [16:23:58] qgil: in Nov 2012? I think it was WMF who initiated and funded, but local people who were on-the-ground outreach & logistics [16:24:10] 03(mod) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [16:24:20] sumanah, who can give me names? [16:24:24] sumanah unfortunately a lot will be just going through webpages and copying and pasting :) [16:24:27] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events only goes back to January 2012 so it doesn't cover 2011 & previous :( [16:24:40] mitevam: :/ I'll be glad to have your table to avoid future tedium! [16:25:08] qgil: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_IN/WikiConference_India_2011/Report for 2011. Let me look some stuff up re the other events [16:26:04] 03(mod) update.php: suhosin alert in line 546 when the memory_limit is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43738 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [16:27:01] sumanah, what I'm after is: who has been directly involved in the organization of tech events in India. Are/were they WMF employees, Wkimedia India members, MediaWiki community volunteers... ? [16:27:18] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [16:27:21] YuviPanda, harshkothari may know as well ^^^^ [16:27:43] qgil: okay. And when you say "directly involved" I assume you mean, people who initiated AND people who helped out with others' ideas, right? [16:28:10] New review: Siebrand; "Comment on Niklas' remarks. Uploading new PS." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42580 [16:28:21] New patchset: Siebrand; "Intialise possible unset variables and add type hints" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42580 [16:28:23] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 (10T. Gries) [16:28:33] sumanah, I mean actual organizers: who decides where the event takes place, arranges details with the venue, makes sure Internet and equipment is available... [16:28:38] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 (10T. Gries) [16:28:48] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 (10T. Gries) [16:28:51] qgil: okay. [16:29:00] 03(mod) Since the last update no error message is reported if you try to save a item with same description + label as another item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43720 (10denny vrandecic) [16:29:01] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 (10T. Gries) [16:29:25] 03(mod) PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content, boolean given ContentHandler line 95 - on certain extension(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43737 +comment (10T. Gries) [16:29:54] New review: Siebrand; "hashar/Antoine: Why wasn't this merged automagically?" [translatewiki] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42778 [16:30:17] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40124) allow non-default preferences prefixed with 'userjs-'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:30:34] qgil: for the March & May 2012 hackdays it was Yuvi Panda, who was acting in his capacity as a volunteer, even though at the time he was a contractor for WMF (he is not currently working for WMF) [16:31:03] New review: Matmarex; "PS14: Use main request context instead of throwing an exception when it's not provided." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:31:30] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42778 [16:31:34] ( sumanah, ah I thought YuviPanda was still working for the WMF) [16:31:36] similarly, Srikanth Lakshmanan ("srikanthlogic" or "sriklak") has been the showrunner for one or two events, in his capacity as a volunteer (not in his role as WMF contractor) [16:31:52] hey qgil [16:31:53] qgil: No, Yuvi is currently finishing his last year of his degree. [16:31:56] * yuvipanda_ reads backlog [16:32:15] 03(mod) Upload speed with chunked uploads is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36599 +comment (10Nemo) [16:32:22] 03(mod) impossible to change the data type of a property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43643 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [16:32:34] In 2012 so many little events sprung up, taught by people from the Wikimedia community in India, that I could not keep track of all of them even though I read wikimedia-l. I don't know which of them were put on by the chapter and which by unaffiliated people. [16:32:35] 03(mod) impossible to change the data type of a property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43643 normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic) [16:32:45] 03(mod) More abuse filters for article feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43417 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [16:33:02] Hi yuvipanda_ ! And the Bangalore / Pune hackathons last November, who organized? [16:33:19] sumanah, with this I have enough to get an idea thanks [16:33:32] I see those November events aren't listed at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events .... I would say WMF + local volunteers organized [16:33:39] qgil: Alolita was the one who took care of logistics on a higher level. Pune we were helped by the CISR folks (Harshad, I think) [16:33:49] ok [16:34:01] Harshad is a volunteer and I do not know whether he is affiliated with WMIN in any way [16:34:10] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bangalore_DevCamp_November_2012 strongly implies it was Alolita. [16:34:43] sumanah: qgil http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events also doesn't list a lot of other events that happened [16:34:47] there's one more list, let me look that up [16:34:48] 03(mod) More abuse filters for article feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43417 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [16:35:34] sumanah, yuvipanda_ ok so this basically shows that most of the actually doers of MediaWiki / Wikimedia tech events are listed a https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad#Who_is_interested [16:35:35] sumanah: qgil http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-December/008977.html [16:35:36] fun [16:35:37] that's just for october [16:35:38] yuvipanda_: oh, if there's a better list I definitely want to know about it. qgil a lot of Wikimedia India events are at technical colleges and so engineers end up learning a bit about the tech side as well [16:35:47] 03(mod) Upload speed with chunked uploads is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36599 (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski) [16:36:19] sumanah: qgil that link is just for december, and has a fair number of more events [16:36:22] ok [16:36:36] qgil: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-November/008826.html october [16:36:38] Nod. qgil CIS is another party to take into account -- you know who CIS is and why we are involved with them? [16:37:12] IIRC CIS does a lot of events that are not listed with the wikimedia.in [16:37:24] and they weren't involved at all in any of the dev events sponsored by WMF [16:37:25] yuvipanda_ sumanah it would be good to have all that listed at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events - otherwise only (some) Indians can see what is really going on there [16:37:39] sumanah, nope [16:37:56] qgil: I'll poke noopur to tell her to make sure that she puts them up there the next time she sends a status [16:38:05] thanks [16:38:19] now someone just needs to take the past reports and put them on that page :D) [16:38:27] qgil: http://cis-india.org/ -- WMF used to have a specific India office, and now instead there is a set of paid people who work on Wikimedia stuff out of the CIS organization [16:39:17] very good to know! [16:39:17] http://cis-india.org/news/announcement-of-wikimedia-india-program-trust and http://cis-india.org/openness/blog/new-avenues have a few glimpses :-) [16:40:10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/India_Program_Announcement_and_FAQ_-_30_July_2012 explains - "This is not a change in the priority of India, but is a shift in how the Wikimedia Foundation seeks to support work in India. Rather than hire consultants or open an office of our own, we think it is preferable to work with an established institution that can bring valuable relationships and capabilities to support our movement. CIS will be a [16:40:10] partner to the Wikimedia Foundation, but will operate autonomously in accordance with the terms of the grant agreement." [16:40:34] (and IIRC they'd be happy to help with future dev events - The Hyderabad hackathon, they helped me organize, and paid for my travel. Delhi Mini Hackathon was done at their office, and arranged for by noopur) [16:40:55] sumanah, is that the move that some Wikimedia India chapter members felt as a distortion of sorts made by the WMF in India? [16:41:14] * qgil is just trying to understand what is not written in emails [16:41:56] anyway, all this background is very useful, thank you sumanah yuvipada_ [16:42:04] qgil: yes, I think. [16:42:09] qgil: Various Wikimedia-involved people in India, some of whom are with WMIN and some of whom are not, are unhappy about various things the WMF has done in India. One is simply having paid people in India *at all* (instead of partnering with the chapter for all India stuff) [16:42:13] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Better scenario name" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42780 [16:42:13] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Fixed the way the script finds a couple of links" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42781 [16:42:30] qgil: reading up about the India Education Program and the drama around it would also help understand some of what happened in that thread [16:42:38] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 41365) Added transclusion count to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31504 [16:42:40] sumanah, does WMIN have paid staff? [16:42:41] qgil: another important past event: IEP - The India Education Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis [16:43:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews is a better place to look probably for understanding some of the concerns with IEP (which was a pilot which is now over and from which people learned lessons incorporated into the current WMF education program(s)) [16:45:29] New review: Siebrand; "Reply to comments. Selected updates will appear soon in a Gerrit near you." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42593 [16:45:49] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update/fix docs and type hints" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42593 [16:46:07] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 41365) Added transclusion count to InfoAction." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31504 [16:46:51] hey is there any1 who can help me out!!!!i am new to the world of open source programming and eager to make sme contributions to the world.I have some college level experience in html,css,php,python [16:47:03] qgil: 1 executive manager, I believe. BTW https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters [16:47:16] hi there Rahul22! welcome! [16:47:42] thank you!! happy to see a quick response...\ [16:48:00] * sumanah lets qgil pick up with Rahul so she can go work on Labs and/or LevelUp [16:48:40] hi Rahul22 [16:48:43] i am a he..not a she!!lol [16:49:00] Rahul22: I think sumanah was referring to herself, not you [16:49:17] hi Rahul22 ! Have you checked https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute ? [16:49:25] ohh hehe,if so my bad!! [16:50:10] no i havnt.... [16:50:24] qgil: I believe you might find http://dreamingcherries.com/2012/07/adieu-to-the-wikimedia-india-movement/ somewhat interesting too. [16:50:41] Rahul22, have a look to get an idea of the area(s) where you are interested [16:51:12] New patchset: Jens Ohlig; "i18n" [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseSolr] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42783 [16:51:14] New patchset: Siebrand; "Update punctuation for error messages" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42784 [16:51:15] Rahul22, the good thing (that can be a problem too) is tat there are plenty of opportunities to contribute. Finding your preferred corner to get started is very useful. [16:51:24] qgil: As an aside, that page looks ten billion times better then what it looked like last time I looked [16:51:44] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added account creation API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [16:51:44] Rahul22: btw, are you a Wikipedian (or contribute to another wiki)? [16:51:45] bawolff, :) [16:52:09] u dnt have to be an expert to contribute right?? [16:52:12] qgil: seriously, last time I read that page, it was rather useless [16:52:30] Rahul22, no. There are opportunities for all levels. [16:53:05] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40124) allow arbitrary user preferences prefixed with 'userjs-'" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:53:12] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added account creation API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [16:53:54] New review: Matmarex; "PS15: added release notes and updated commit message." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37503 [16:54:09] Rahul22, visit the interesting links in that page, make sure you fllow the landing instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication#Landing and from there find your first task [16:54:28] Rahul22: if you're looking for something on the programming (in PHP or possibly html/css) you could try having a look through https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=easy&list_id=171742 to see if anything strikes you [16:54:47] Rahul22, if you get stuck just ask for advice. You can find me here or at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Qgil [16:55:54] New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Catch excpt to avoid fatal in Message::__toString" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42543 [16:55:58] hmm, wikimedia-tech might be a better list to suggest for newbies (if they're interested in programming) since mediawiki-l is almost entirely support requests [16:56:15] i read abt the whole wiki concept a month ago...!!!!like any first timer i always misunderstood it for wikipedia....i read a few things then i landed straight here!!!! [16:56:21] (and there is now a mediawiki-india too :) [16:56:26] New review: Alex Monk; "Doesn't seem to be any server-side checks..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42770 [16:56:46] Rahul22, where are you based? [16:56:54] I am from INdia [16:57:00] Rahul22, where? :) [16:57:05] gujarat [16:57:09] ah! [16:57:15] where u from?? [16:57:25] Rahul22: harshkothari is also from Ahmedabad [16:57:31] Rahul22, check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad#Who_is_interested [16:57:37] oops https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad [16:57:40] (well, he is from Ahmedabad, which I guess is potentially where you're from) [16:57:45] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "using trigger_error instead of wfWarn, as Aaron suggested, so the problem will be logged in production." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42543 [16:57:55] Rahul22: Hi [16:58:51] qgil: also, I think I'll be back with the WMF (as staff) starting in an hour or so :P [16:59:05] New review: Alex Monk; "Actually you might want to change the commit summary. There's more than just the rollback group that..." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42537 [16:59:05] (have an interview with Sue in an hour) [16:59:35] yuvipanda_ :)) (btw, this discussion with Rahul reminded me of the pending task of advertizing mediawiki-india in wikitech-l mediawiki-l and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists ) [16:59:39] New review: Anomie; "Bunch of nitpicks." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312 [16:59:51] qgil: right. I'll do that after the interview today. [16:59:58] good luck! [17:00:12] qgil: thanks :) [17:00:15] yuvipanda_: oh when would your startdate be? cool [17:00:30] sumanah: it's a little complicated, since i think my start date is today. [17:00:33] * bawolff as an aside votes boo to region specific (or topic specific) technical mailing lists - they split conversations and tend to die out after a couple of months [17:00:42] HAHA [17:00:54] it was supposed to be 1st Jan, but due to death in the family it was postponed. [17:00:55] bawolff: I am with you in general. Let's see if India is different [17:00:56] :D [17:01:01] my condolences yuvipanda_ [17:01:11] best luck yuvipanda_ [17:01:14] thanks harshkothari [17:01:20] thanks sumanah [17:01:26] yuvipanda_: has your coursework all finished? [17:01:44] sumanah: No, have 5 more months. But only 2 days of college a week. I'll be working for the rest of the time [17:01:46] In fairness, I think most of the mediawiki examples have been with topic specific ones, not region specific, so I don't really have any evidence for a geographic list not working [17:01:58] sumanah: also, may I PM? Have a small question [17:01:59] bawolff, medawiki-india's sole purpose is meant to be coordination across that big piece of land. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups#Local_vs_regional [17:02:07] sure! [17:02:41] bawolff, I'm subscribed there to check that they don't end up discussing only stuff that should go to wikitech-l / mediawiki-l and I'm aware of the risk [17:02:52] qgil: So its a list for administration purposes, not for technical discussion? [17:03:44] bawolff, it was created after our decision to have local MediaWiki Groups really local e.g Ahmedad, Delhi, Bangalore... instead of MediaWiki Group India [17:04:16] bawolff, Yuvi & co said OK but then they still saw the need for coordinationat national level and to welcome contributors without a local group nearby (yet) [17:05:03] bawolff, in more detail: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-india/2012-December/000004.html [17:05:05] Sounds like it makes sense in that case [17:05:13] 03(mod) NewPagesFeed vs. IE6 and IE7: "Set filters" is busted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43598 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [17:06:01] Rahul22: what interests you most? [17:06:31] bawolff, it might be that some generic threads are started in a list like this by people that wouldn't dare to post e.g. in wikitech-l. So far so good, if the discussion makes sense then Yuvi and others in both lists can move it there. [17:08:41] qgil: I liked "We can all count on a safe ride if we look out for each other" [17:09:50] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 23343) Apply IP blocks to X-Forwarded-For header." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33971 [17:11:07] sumanah--i like designing html,css and scriptng languages like php and python!! [17:11:08] sumanah, :) Caltrain had it in the electronic displays. I felt like jumping to a train like in the old days in the Far West [17:11:19] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 23343) Apply IP blocks to X-Forwarded-For header." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/33971 [17:11:19] Rahul22: You will probably benefit from these short bits of advice -- what experienced open source contributors wish they had known when they started :-) http://open-advice.org/ [17:11:24] i am nt a pro!!!bt yea these are my intersts [17:13:10] i guess no1 was a pro when they started...hehe [17:13:14] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "@Siebrand: thanks for testing!" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42746 [17:13:26] acha sumanah whre r u from??and wht are your intersts [17:13:38] I live in New York City and was born in the USA. My parents are from Karnataka. [17:14:12] 03(mod) Proper collation support in categories for Ukrainian wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41040 summary (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:14:35] ohhh nyc!!!!and ur interests?? [17:15:27] hey Rahul22 [17:15:38] i also suggest you reading http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf and http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html [17:15:46] 03(mod) ContentHandler's inability to create redirects for certain content models should be reflected in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42915 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [17:15:57] I work for the Wikimedia Foundation as community manager and work on nurturing contributors. I like helping solve problems, and I like to teach, and I like to write. [17:16:00] * yuvipanda_ points sumanah and qgil to http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf if they weren't aware of that before. [17:16:06] I have indeed seen it! [17:16:08] a fair bit more India focused that one [17:16:33] needs updating though (points to sf.net! eww!) [17:18:47] Rahul22: In my personal life, my interests are: feminism, science fiction, editing Wikipedia, performing and watching stand-up comedy, and tax history. [17:18:52] New review: Siebrand; "Per Nemo." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39179 [17:19:24] Within English Wikipedia, I've recently started doing some more patrolling/reviewing of newly created articles. [17:20:00] oh, nice! [17:20:04] 03(mod) Some of the characters not being displayed correctly for Gurumukhi in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 summary (10Subhashish Panigrahi) [17:20:16] sumanah: i've been doing wikignoming on commons, it is fun [17:20:21] yuvipanda_: have you tried out Special:NewPagesFeed yet? [17:20:29] no, not been doing patrolling [17:20:30] New review: Cmcmahon; "nice. I didn't know that about IE, and I like the regexes also" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42781 [17:20:37] i've been working onb acklogs for images that need editing [17:20:42] currently doing border removals [17:20:43] I don't know why, but the Curation Toolbar *just* started working for me in the last few weeks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed and it's great [17:20:45] will do watermarks next :) [17:20:58] New review: Cmcmahon; "fine by me" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42780 [17:20:58] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42781 [17:20:59] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42780 [17:21:18] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Mark test pending because of bug #43598" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42787 [17:21:31] 03(mod) Set $wgCategoryCollation to 'uca-default' and rebuild category sort keys on Portuguese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43185 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:22:56] 03(mod) Some of the characters not being displayed correctly for Gurumukhi in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 (10Subhashish Panigrahi) [17:26:29] Rahul22: did I answer your question? :) [17:26:58] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31504 [17:27:30] New review: Cmcmahon; "OK. thanks for review and update on this" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42787 [17:27:31] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42787 [17:27:38] 03(mod) Proper collation support in categories for Ukrainian wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41040 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:32:16] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42543 [17:33:15] huh [17:33:23] is updateCollation.php broken... [17:33:52] oh wait, I just made a typo [17:35:46] hi sucheta! how are you? [17:36:02] and sumanah your programmng languages of interests?? [17:36:45] Rahul22: I can sort of paddle around in Python and less so in PHP and JavaScript. But I'm more a contributor as a tester, documenter, teacher, and manager. [17:37:37] bawolff: working on the collation things? [17:37:47] yeah [17:38:06] yay [17:38:22] I had $wgCategoryCollation twice in my LocalSettings.php and then got really confused ;) [17:38:28] can i somehow help? [17:39:10] At the moment, I'm testing the patch on the swedish bug because I think that one will be fast to test [17:39:29] For instance, Rahul22, I wrote or structured many of the tutorials at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials . [17:39:33] 03(mod) Proper collation support in categories for Ukrainian wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41040 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:39:37] 03(mod) Implement central locale-specific, or tailored, sorting framework (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30673 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:39:40] yeah, it seems the simplest [17:39:49] ohh!!!!and does wikimedia participate in gsoc?? [17:39:56] * yuvipanda_ blms at sucheta  [17:39:57] around? [17:39:59] ah, these bugs really need sorting... [17:40:03] hmm, nobody has touched bug 30722 in 4 months. that should be an easy run maintinace script on small wiki for some shell user [17:40:16] Rahul22: yep. I participated in a previous year [17:40:20] Rahul22: yes, we do. Here's a quick question for you -- if you had wanted to discover whether Wikimedia participates in GSoC, what would an easy way to find out be? [17:40:24] Rahul22: yes it does, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GSOC [17:40:33] aw [17:40:37] sumanah: sorry :( [17:40:47] * yuvipanda_ throws https://www.redditdonate.com/donate/59 at sumanah  [17:40:49] MatmaRex: For what? you answered his question and that is fine :) [17:40:55] * MatmaRex is too helpful :P [17:41:13] 03(mod) Api allows reblocking the user if reblock parameter is not specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32434 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [17:41:13] 03(mod) API reblock works without checking reblock argument - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43634 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [17:41:14] not a problem MatmaRex :) [17:41:29] sumanah: Hi! :) I am good, I guess. Although am sensing a little bit of fever. :/ [17:41:37] :( hope you feel better soon, sucheta. [17:42:17] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [17:42:26] check the organisation list!!!oh yeaa i can see wikimedia ..yeaay [17:42:36] also, Rahul22, you will generally give the impression of greater intelligence if you write in English rather than SMS-speak with needlessly doubled punctuation. :) [17:42:45] (although emoticons are sadly necessary) [17:42:55] * sucheta does anti-shaat shaat to yuvipanda_ [17:42:56] bawolff: i just recently noticed that my patch to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42412 doesn't really make sense, it only handles first letters of words for sorting as well, instead of every letter [17:43:13] it would besemi-easily fixed, though, some unicode-aware preg_replace [17:43:32] sucheta: :) How's the coding for OPW going? [17:44:28] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated generic Jenkins job configuration" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42788 [17:44:40] Hi BPositive, how are you? [17:45:08] Hi sumanah , I am good. How about you? [17:45:14] sure!so cn you suggest sme place where i could get to read smethng abt wikimedia,so as to get a good background about this organisation [17:45:36] Rahul22: have you already read the "How to Contribute" page that QGil gave you a link to? [17:45:58] hey BPositive [17:46:02] BPositive: I'm not bad! I am happy to see you -- I saw your userpage says you are on a wikibreak. [17:46:14] 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Polish language (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42412 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:46:15] 03(mod) Some characters not correctly displayed for Gurumukhi in Phonetic keyboard layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43730 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:46:39] sumanah: Well, yeah. Not doing any editing for the past few months. [17:46:47] Hey yuvipanda_ ! [17:47:03] bawolff: also, does the ⅍ behavior happen for you using ICU collation? (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42412#c0) [17:47:09] hey BPositive [17:47:12] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Nemo) [17:47:12] Ah, ok, but you're still doing Wikimedia stuff - I get it. :-) Have you tried out Git yet? [17:47:16] bawolff: "for a reason that is to me inexplicable, IcuCollation, as well as my derivation, insists on sorting articles starting with "A" under "⅍". I have no idea why this happens or how to change it properly" [17:47:27] BPositive sorry I couldn't do Gadget tutorials for you. Glad harshkothari could step in! :) [17:47:41] MatmaRex: That sounds familar. I thought that was an old bug I fixed [17:48:00] bawolff: ah, maybe you did, i didn't check it recently [17:48:10] from a long time ago [17:48:13] like back in 1.18 [17:48:27] New review: Cmcmahon; "Jenkins massage" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42788 [17:48:27] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42788 [17:48:29] huh. [17:48:39] i saw it in git master last november [17:48:42] It could be caused if algorithm changes between icu versions, and the first-letter.ser file doesn't match [17:48:49] Rahul22, are you interested in Wikimedia as an organization? Or the software projects it handles...? [17:48:59] bawolff: http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki/index.php?title=Kategoria:Test [17:48:59] so it might only be present for some versions of the intl php extension [17:49:04] sumanah: Yeah starting with MediaWiki now! No not really. I know what it is used for and the way everything works. pull, fork, etc....but don't have a profile [17:49:07] * sumanah leaves Rahul22 to qgil :-) [17:49:08] i regenerated the serfiles, even [17:49:22] Rahul22, your questions are very useful! They help us seeing what are the main points where a new volunteer can get stuck :) [17:49:45] yuvipanda_: Its ok buddy. harshkothari helped me out quite well :) [17:49:46] BPositive: you should go ahead and get a labsconsole.wikimedia.org account :-) and we can help you learn how to help out with MediaWiki! [17:49:48] yea i read it!nicely designed pages [17:49:50] Rahul22, just have a bit of patience - as you can see you are helping already now :) [17:50:01] I need to head off but nice seeing you. [17:50:21] BPositive: do you think we should start a page on mw.org about which gadgetes need to be / to be ported where? [17:50:24] MatmaRex: Yeah, that looks like U+214D is considered a "first letter" one it shouldn't be [17:50:44] sumanah: Yeah sure, looking into it [17:51:01] bawolff: http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki/index.php?title=Kategoria:Test [17:51:29] yuvipanda_: Yeah. We need something where we can put our work and get stuff done [17:51:41] also Rahul22 , I'm not looking at the IRC channel all the time but if you type "qgil" then I'll show up sooner or later. You can also "Start a new discussion" at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Qgil for async dialog [17:51:42] I feel like the first letter code didn't get lots of review, since very few people understand how that black magic actually works [17:51:55] BPositive: yes. Can you start that? I'm sure plenty of people will offer to help port [17:52:17] bawolff: yeah... it seems to work for pt.wiki tohugh [17:52:45] hehe sure!!(forgive me fr my naivity) [17:52:47] bawolff: what debug info i should check? [17:53:05] Umm, good question [17:53:21] I remember last time I tried to debug a similar issue it was rather painful [17:53:34] New review: Aaron Schulz; "There is a clock sequence, timestamp, counter, and node id within each UID. The clock seq is advance..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [17:53:45] New patchset: Kaldari; "Setting up flyout formatting as a separate formatting option" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [17:54:09] yuvipanda_: Yeah fine. Just gimme a link to the page with a red link. I'll start adding content [17:54:13] MatmaRex: btw, the similar bug I'm thinking of is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28545 [17:54:19] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Needs rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36700 [17:54:33] BPositive: start it under your userspace? We'll move it out sometime soon [17:54:42] 03(mod) New namespace at pt.wikt: Wikisaurus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43710 +comment (10ValJor) [17:54:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Dependency needs rebase" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38734 [17:55:11] bawolff: ah yeah, i kinda remember seeing this in code when i was trying to figure out how it works [17:55:43] hi BPositive [17:55:52] yuvipanda_: alright. right now, I am working on some other stuff related to college. will do that tomorrow morning under my user-space :-) [17:56:00] BPositive: thanks :) [17:56:04] can you suggest a few things to get startd and then if i have a doubt ill henceforth ask you [17:56:23] drop a note on my talkpage once done [17:56:24] or better yet, post on the mediawiki-india list [17:56:42] yuvipanda_: fine [17:57:14] what is instance shell account? [17:57:23] hi harshkothari , how are you doing buddy? [17:57:31] Rahul22, do you feel like trying to fix a bug? Any language of preference? Any part of MediaWiki you are more interested? (any extension, or mobile...) [17:57:52] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Amended system messages" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [17:58:00] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37870 [17:58:26] 03(mod) Swedish-language wikis should use Swedish-locale sorting (ie. ��� should sort correctly) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29788 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:58:26] New review: Mattflaschen; "Ori, without thisCase, I think this would be window in the anonymous function (passed to throws). T..." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [17:58:37] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42753 [17:58:54] Rahul22, why not following today the IRC meeting for developers of a new cool feature coming to Wikipedia et al, Echo notifications? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_%28Notifications%29 [17:59:22] Rahul22, why not signing up at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Ahmedabad ? [18:00:00] 03(mod) Swedish-language wikis should use Swedish-locale sorting (ie. ��� should sort correctly) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29788 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [18:00:08] BPositive: 'instance shell account' where? [18:00:09] Rahul22, see also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Little_annoying_bugs [18:00:17] BPositive: on wiki? Usually people who can run maintenance scripts have shell accounts [18:00:32] Rahul22, let me know more about your skills and interest and I will do my best finding a good task for you [18:00:38] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main+Page&type=signup [18:00:48] * bawolff resists to make a snide remark about echo being a little annoying bug giving me large amounts of spam... :P [18:00:50] i havnt fixed bugs yet,bt that is the thing i want to learn coz i have had college level knowldge of html css php and python.This is my first interation(not first,bt effectvly first :P)with open source programming.. [18:01:38] yeah sumanah asked to apply for a labconsole.wikimedia.org account [18:01:47] *asked me [18:02:18] Rahul22, ok. I assume you like Wikipedia? Please consider https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen as a relatively quick, easy and safe way to get interesting customizations and improvements that you can test and share with other users [18:03:00] Rahul22, try that and let me know. And don't forget to have a proper landing in mediawiki.org: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication#Landing [18:03:52] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding More Info link to Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [18:03:53] BPositive: just a username that would be considered a valid unix log in name [18:04:02] Rahul22, create your mediawiki.org user page and describe your interests there. That wll also help. [18:04:20] yes wikipedia !sme1 should be mad to not like it :P [18:04:43] BPositive: generally avoid spaces and fancy accented letters I think [18:05:14] Rahul22, we don't know you. Maybe you are indeed mad. ;) [18:05:44] haha:P [18:06:01] Rahul22, Gadgets are Javascript based and they are a way to tweak / improve your Wikipedia experience without actually touching the MediaWiki code [18:06:08] Rahul22, they are a good start [18:07:06] sure..noted down!and a good place to read about wikimedia..any suggestion?? [18:07:25] bawolff, yuvipanda_ : Thanks. I created an account. Now while signing back again, its asking me for a token. [18:07:54] Rahul22: defining Wikimedia is a complicated thing [18:08:16] BPositive: Is it asking about a token, or complaining about not having one (Not having a token can mean issues with cookies enabled) [18:08:32] * bawolff not that familar with the labs stuff though, so I'm not really sure [18:08:38] it is asking for one. [18:09:13] may i ask y? [18:09:43] petan: Are you familiar with the labs create account process (If so do you know BPositive's question ---^) [18:09:49] anyway, I entered the shell account name I chose and it worked. not sure if that was the reason... [18:10:26] Rahul22: Because there are lots of little distinctions between Wikimedia, Wikimedia foundation, MediaWiki, Wikipedia, etc [18:10:27] New review: Siebrand; "Almost there." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [18:10:55] Rahul22: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement [18:11:05] bawolff: just checked out, any random token works. kasdjajsdh too! [18:11:17] hmm, interesting [18:12:53] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:13:53] 03(mod) Add "autoreviewer" to $wgRestrictionLevels on ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39652 +comment (10Opraco) [18:14:49] bawolff: anyway, leaving now..catch up with you again! :) [18:15:07] given the recent conversations about MediaWiki Groups - folks should know that AffCom (which will likely be reviewing those group's applications) is seeking new members - might be helpful for some MW folks to be involved - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Call_for_Candidates_2013 [18:15:58] BPositive: see you around [18:16:26] Thanks everyone !ill try the things suggested for sure.and come up again fr sure [18:18:03] sumanah, i'm about to call it a day...i am working on my table and its seems it will keep easily keep me busy tomorrow as well [18:19:24] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Added UIDGenerator class for getting statistically unique IDs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [18:19:55] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 major->04CRIT (10Nemo) [18:20:05] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Improved getTimestampAndDelay() slightly so custom clock/counter sizes can be given (also detects ov..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37052 [18:22:09] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +platformeng; +comment (10Nemo) [18:23:33] 03(mod) Wrong picture linking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43539 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:25:12] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42371 [18:26:03] 03(mod) Multiple / unclear landing pages for QA & testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42540 +comment (10Quim Gil) [18:26:09] New review: Siebrand; "This might work." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [18:27:05] 03(mod) Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43726 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:27:19] 03(mod) Multiple / unclear landing pages for QA & testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42540 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [18:27:43] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding More Info link to Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [18:28:07] New patchset: Reedy; "Remove trailing whitespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42789 [18:29:35] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding More Info link to Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [18:29:47] 03(mod) Configure relevant extensions on test repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43733 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:29:59] MatmaRex: What version of php's intl extension do you have installed? [18:30:39] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42789 [18:31:24] New patchset: Pginer; "Provide contrast between processed and un-processed items in the message list" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42790 [18:31:57] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42784 [18:32:24] 03(mod) Swedish-language wikis should use Swedish-locale sorting (ie. ��� should sort correctly) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29788 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:32:43] bawolff: how do i check it? it's a shared host [18:32:44] Danny_B: koukám, že už si odevzdal počítač [18:32:51] bawolff: (i have shell access) [18:33:01] make a php file with just ah [18:33:19] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42744 [18:33:20] 03(mod) Cross-wiki full resolution file links lacks the File: prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43626 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:34:03] bawolff: sent you a link on priv [18:34:22] ok, thanks [18:34:47] btw, on my test install, I didn't have the issue with the U+214D [18:35:03] New review: Mdale; "Would be nice to log the stremless media files" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42744 [18:35:04] * bawolff wonders what my version of intl is. probably something super out-dated [18:35:36] 03(mod) TimedMediaHandler: 2x implode() Invalid arguments passed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43686 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:36:45] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fix API module registration" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42792 [18:36:53] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42792 [18:36:58] 03(mod) Proper collation support in categories for Ukrainian wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41040 major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:37:12] 03(mod) Fatal error: Class 'ApiGeocode' not found in includes/api/ApiMain.php on line 1140 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43726 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [18:37:13] 03(mod) Attempting to created username "~~~~" outputs bad error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16103 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:38:27] 03(mod) Create AntiBot component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43675 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:38:32] 03(mod) Link translatable help pages on mediawiki.org from the relevant special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43591 (10Nemo) [18:38:34] 03(mod) Implement MediaWiki Help Repository (fetching Help: pages from MediaWiki.org or Meta, similar to file description pages from Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12306 (10Nemo) [18:39:46] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Indeed is not storing the blacklist anywhere on the server" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42770 [18:40:45] MatmaRex: ok, so your version of intl is using a version of icu corresponding to unicode 6.1 / CLDR 21.0.1 where mine corresponds with CLDR 1.7 / unicode 5.1 [18:40:49] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10rogerhc) [18:41:05] MatmaRex: Which probably explains the difference in behaviour [18:41:40] What this really means is that we need some sort of way for MW to detect versions of icu db installed, and use different root-letters.ser files for different versions [18:41:45] I think anyways [18:41:58] 03(mod) Installer should optionally import help pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23636 +comment (10Nemo) [18:42:00] 03(mod) Implement MediaWiki Help Repository (fetching Help: pages from MediaWiki.org or Meta, similar to file description pages from Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12306 (10Nemo) [18:42:31] bawolff: ah. okay, i guess this makes sense. [18:42:59] bawolff: i don't remember the exact process for regenerating the .ser files right now, but [18:43:17] i think it involved downloading something that explicitly included the unicode version in the URL itself [18:43:29] There's a script in maintiance/languages/generateCollationData.php [18:43:36] let me look into it and see [18:43:43] and yeah it makes you download 2 files i think [18:44:03] http://www.unicode.org/Public/UCA/latest/allkeys.txt and http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.0.0/ucdxml/ucd.all.grouped.zip [18:44:05] http://www.unicode.org/Public/UCA/latest/allkeys.txt is first [18:44:07] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate broken for wmf wikis? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43682 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:44:11] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Please do not fix real changes and whitespace cleanup in the same commit, makes review a lot harder" [mediawiki/extensions/LiveTranslate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40348 [18:44:26] http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.0.0/ucdxml/ucd.all.grouped.zip is second [18:44:54] 03(mod) GeoCrumbs: Call to a member function getParserOutput() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43719 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:45:18] New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Don't let AFT set unsupported groups" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42537 [18:45:33] running php language/generateCollationData.php right now... [18:45:36] I think the allkeys one is more likely to have an effect on the first letter used, but both have an effect [18:45:44] 03(mod) Implement MediaWiki Help Repository (fetching Help: pages from MediaWiki.org or Meta, similar to file description pages from Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12306 +comment (10Nemo) [18:45:55] it finished and printed: "Out of order: 4 / 14768" [18:45:59] New patchset: Reedy; "Update TimedMediaHandler to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42793 [18:46:13] MatmaRex: With the data for 6.1 ? [18:46:47] still getting the same behavior on http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki/index.php?title=Kategoria:Test after updateCollation.php --force [18:46:54] bawolff: with data from the links I posted [18:47:01] 03(mod) AbuseFilter: Invalid argument supplied for foreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43011 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:47:05] "latest" and "6.0"... [18:47:18] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed return type doc" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42794 [18:47:25] Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42793 [18:47:50] bawolff: i'll try with http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.1.0/ucdxml/ucd.all.grouped.zip now [18:48:07] btw, looking at the allkeys file - U+214D has its own primary weight in unicode 5.1, but not in unicode 6.1 (or higher ones) [18:48:24] MatmaRex: Try http://www.unicode.org/Public/UCA/6.1.0/allkeys.txt for the allkeys as well [18:49:22] bawolff: the generating script drops the files in the correct location by itself? or do i have to place them there? [18:49:40] Umm, good question. I think you have to place it in the serialized folder [18:49:58] i don't see them outputted anywhere else [18:50:33] oh wait - $outFile = fopen( "$IP/serialized/first-letters-root.ser", 'w' ); [18:50:38] so it should place it in the right place [18:50:41] alright [18:50:55] for this to take affect on your wiki, you also need to delete the cached version [18:50:55] using ucd.all.grouped for 6.1, previous allkeys didn't help [18:51:00] trying both for 6.1 now [18:51:04] Out of order: 3 / 15097 [18:51:17] which is probably in your database if you don't have caching normally enabled [18:51:17] so that's different at least [18:51:32] 03(NEW) Flash of unstyled content (FOUC) in watchlist and log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43739 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [18:51:35] cached version of what? the .ser? [18:51:44] So you might have to manaully delete a row in the objectcache table for changes to take affect [18:52:01] 03(mod) Flash of unstyled content (FOUC) in watchlist and log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43739 (10Juliusz Gonera) [18:52:07] bawolff: looking now... [18:52:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox has issues using VE when cookies are disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43193 summary (10James Forrester) [18:52:23] matmarex-mw_:first-letters:root ? [18:52:52] yep, that's the one [18:53:22] killed it, reran updatecollation, purged category page, and it looks good now :D http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki/index.php?title=Kategoria:Test [18:53:53] but man, this is nasty. [18:54:01] btw, for reference - I'm getting the which version of unicode to use is from http://site.icu-project.org/download combined with the icu version field from phpinfo() output [18:54:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: JS TypeError when Parsoid returns an error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43216 summary (10James Forrester) [18:54:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox has issues using VE when cookies are disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43193 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:55:07] I think its time to write some of this out in a bug report [18:55:18] updateCollation probably shouldnt show the "latest" and "6.0" then... [18:55:19] yeah [18:55:32] can you do it? i'm not even sure what's to fix here [18:55:42] huh, wikibugs-l is default cc... that's odd [18:56:44] Not today ;) [18:57:20] I think there's a bunch of things to be done. First of all we need to be able to figure out what version of intl (or icu_library) is installed in php [18:57:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Fix "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'typePattern' of undefined" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43014 (10James Forrester) [18:57:45] and where to even those links it prints when you don't have necessary data to generate the .ser file come from? [18:57:46] Then we need to also have versions of first-letters-root.ser for all the different versions of php intl [18:57:50] they don't even grep, apparently [18:58:22] The links I think are hardcoded in the maintinance script I believe [18:58:25] ah, there it is [18:58:33] 03(mod) Update Wikivoyage logo where applicable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43565 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [18:58:35] \mediawiki\core\maintenance\language\generateCollationData.php [18:58:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mouse leaving a phantom and also the .ve-surface DIV area causes phantom to remain - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43461 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [18:59:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace preservation for list items not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43543 (10James Forrester) [18:59:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Fix "Uncaught TypeError: this.registry[name].static is undefined" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43017 (10James Forrester) [19:00:29] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Use Cucumber tags to exclude tests with known bugs from test runs" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42795 [19:02:36] zeljkof: yeahhh for cucumber :-] [19:02:47] Echo session for developers starting now in #wikimedia-tech [19:02:56] hashar: :) [19:03:35] damn this is sooo busy during SF mornings [19:04:33] bawolff: does intl really not expose it's version number *anywhere* in the PHP api? seriously? [19:05:04] MatmaRex: Not that I am aware of [19:05:13] I haven't particularly looked too hard though [19:05:20] i did, http://php.net/manual/en/book.intl.php [19:05:26] there are some thirty constants there [19:05:29] in various part [19:05:30] s [19:05:34] but no version, no [19:05:39] that's completely unnecessary [19:05:47] who would ever need it [19:05:59] 03(mod) Attempting to create username "~~~~" on Wikimedia wikis outputs bad error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16103 summary (10MZMcBride) [19:09:14] 03(NEW) MediaWiki needs first-letters-root.ser to match with version of intl extension installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43740 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; () [19:09:44] 03(mod) Re-enable Extension:CrossNamespaceLinks on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42179 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:09:44] New patchset: Hoo man; "Fix ProtectionForm for users with both protect and editprotected" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42797 [19:09:59] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs first-letters-root.ser to match with version of intl extension installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43740 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:10:03] 03(mod) check wgEnableAPI before use the api - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24335 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:10:04] bawolff: CC'd myself [19:10:15] ^pretty trivial change, but still I wrote half an essay to make people understand.... [19:10:15] 03(mod) Attempting to create username "~~~~" on Wikimedia wikis outputs bad error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16103 +comment (10Liangent) [19:11:15] hoo: don't tell me [19:11:25] hoo: i've written multiple essays by now in discussions over https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23100/ [19:11:44] MatmaRex: Mine is way more trivial :P [19:12:41] hoo: well, then look at this maybe? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39792/5/skins/common/commonContent.css,unified [19:12:52] hoo: Are you referring to the patrol change? [19:12:54] 20 lines of comment to four lines of CSS [19:13:04] :P [19:13:27] 03(NEW) Make size related database lists available for use as a "group" in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43741 enhancement; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [19:13:28] 03(mod) Divide wikis into database lists by approximate size for performance engineering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39667 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:13:29] 03(mod) Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in small.dblist) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43668 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:13:29] MatmaRex: The trick is to make complicated changes. No one can comment it to death if they don't understand it :P [19:13:30] Not bad... I've seen worse though [19:13:43] * bawolff was joking there - please don't take that as serious [19:13:55] 03(mod) Make size related database lists available for use as a "group" in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43741 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:13:57] # Some magic happens below ... ask John Doe [19:14:59] New review: GWicke; "It might be a good idea to add an uppercase version too to avoid this being hidden by leading char c..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42699 [19:15:18] hoo: lol [19:15:29] Reedy: <3 [19:18:13] 03(mod) [Statements-ui] Implement other Property-Snak types than Property-Value Snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43304 +comment (10Wikidata Bot) [19:24:06] 03(mod) Add Antarctic monuments to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42165 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [19:25:11] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42933 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:26:54] New review: Hashar; "Sorry for the delay." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31875 [19:29:02] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs first-letters-root.ser to match with version of intl extension installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43740 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:29:04] 03(mod) Implement central locale-specific, or tailored, sorting framework (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30673 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:29:12] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:33:37] New review: Cmcmahon; "(new) Cucumber tags for fine control of which tests run for which browsers" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42795 [19:33:37] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42795 [19:33:39] * bawolff as an aside, just tested using IcuCollation( 'sv' ). It totally works minus the section headers [19:33:43] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Needs rebase." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMaps] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38696 [19:33:44] 03(mod) Wikimedia wiki search is broken (outputting inconsistent results) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42423 +comment (10Foroa) [19:33:50] New patchset: MarkTraceur; "(bug 43661) Added test for special link trail case" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42699 [19:34:11] You know, for all of you who work on deploying stuff on live sites on a regular basis, I must say you lot are amazing and do a wonderful job, so far as I've seen. [19:35:23] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on plwiki for 3 more namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43617 -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:35:46] New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 41172) Add Wikiset as AbuseFilter variable" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42800 [19:36:09] Change abandoned: CSteipp; "Resubmitted as I5db52aad" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42565 [19:39:27] New review: Alex Monk; "... Why?" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42565 [19:39:30] New review: Hashar; "Talked about this with iAlex. The tests are apparently covering all possibilities though I have not ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31875 [19:39:48] 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Polish language (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42412 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [19:40:30] Isarra: Did you just accidentally blow up your site? ;) [19:41:42] bawolff: An extension exploded! [19:42:14] Now we have to clean up the mess and fix it. Good fun. >.< [19:42:40] Don't suppose you'd know how to override default account creation new user ids to be bigger than a certain number? [19:42:49] Well, a good way to do it, anyway. [19:43:33] Also I am now convinced that special:contributions is black magic, plain and simple. [19:43:34] Can't you set the start position in mysql for a table? [19:43:49] ALTER TABLE tbl AUTO_INCREMENT = 5000; [19:43:57] New review: Hoo man; "Maybe I can take care of this on Thursday." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41196 [19:44:06] o.O [19:44:47] So what does autoincrement do when there were specified insertions that are bigger than the last increment? Just fill in the gaps? [19:45:14] Reedy: that's cool, didn't know you could do that [19:45:36] Isarra: I believe auto-increment just goes to one more then the latest. Gaps aren't filled in [19:45:54] It'd be fairly easy to test to confirm [19:46:24] create a blank table, insert something at say 5, set auto_incrememnt to 4 [19:46:32] insert 2 rows not specifying the id [19:50:53] gwicke: ping? [19:51:04] yuvipanda_: pong [19:51:14] gwicke: heya! [19:51:18] hi! [19:51:33] scriptdevil is a friend of mine who turned up for a mw hackathon y'day. Does a masters program (I think?) at IIT Madras. [19:51:50] Hi :) [19:51:51] gwicke: he was looking through the parsoid codebase, and was wondering if there's an IRC channel for you guys [19:51:55] hi scriptdevil! [19:52:05] :) [19:52:05] yes, we are in #mediawiki-parsoid [19:52:40] Ok. I am not familiar with peg parsers. But I am just looking to hang out there and overhear people chatting from time to time. [19:53:22] hi scriptdevil - also check out https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l [19:53:25] 03(NEW) Categorize {{#babel}} categories on sv-wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43742 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [19:53:55] sumanah: Will do. [19:54:14] scriptdevil: gwicke is our sailing cycling awesome parser dev :) [19:55:15] yuvipanda_: :) Thanks! [19:55:40] scriptdevil: the list is pretty dead right now, most info is in gerrit, the wiki and #mediawiki-parsoid of course [19:56:10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid [19:57:35] Ok. I will have a look. [20:04:29] mediawiki can diff between versions. [20:04:59] bluefoxxx: Yes, it can :) [20:05:09] it also keeps record of the exact time each change was committed. [20:05:48] Well up to the second, we don't do millisecond resolution on the time a change was made [20:05:48] So I'm thinking, would it be possible to tag a particular point in time, so that a view of mediawiki would give you everything as it was THEN [20:05:57] you can browse the wiki at that point [20:06:13] bluefoxxx: Someone did an extension called Mamento that does something similar [20:06:30] bawolff, not sure that'll work where I'm going [20:06:53] I don't suppose there's an easy way to allow anon api read access? can't whitelist, and it's internal so should be safe [20:07:12] Scooter_: anons have read access to the api by default... [20:07:16] I'm thinking of marking the wiki at most recent change (i.e. REVISION HISTORY of the whole wiki), for architectural purpose [20:07:16] I assume you'd want to support multiple tags? [20:07:17] Scooter_: Anon API read access it allowed if $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] == true, and disallowed otherwise [20:07:38] i.e. so that you can branch from a revision, make modifications, and then merge them back with automatic basing and conflict resolution. [20:08:00] effectively, make the whole thing behave like Git [20:08:01] yea, but that allows read access to everything [20:08:09] just looking to do a search by script atm [20:08:17] Scooter_: Yeah. The API doesn't support selective read restrictions [20:08:18] for a tiny wiki,maybe doable [20:08:33] for anything with a few million pages, prolly not [20:08:48] apergos, architecturally impossible? [20:08:59] git itself can do it, but git is a vastly different piece of software [20:09:08] bluefoxxx: mediawiki already has some diffing and patching built in :) it happens when you undo changes [20:09:13] !e Memento [20:09:13] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Memento [20:09:18] nod [20:09:19] this is the ext someone mentioned above [20:09:22] and it doesn't have to deal with 21 million files in a repo [20:09:28] (git doesn't) [20:09:53] when you ask about architecture it comes back to scale [20:10:32] heh 26000 files in the linux kernel [20:10:36] a bit different than 21 million [20:11:35] how do we know which revisions are the current ones for a page? they are listed in the page table (page_latest) [20:11:43] imagine doing that across all pages for every tag [20:11:44] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:11:48] imagine how long that would take [20:12:10] 03(mod) Swedish-language wikis should use Swedish-locale sorting (ie. ��� should sort correctly) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29788 +comment (10Lejonel) [20:12:11] nod [20:12:20] it sounds like for this particular use case a different software product is needed [20:12:55] or less ambitious requirements [20:12:59] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:13:04] * apergos votes for less ambitious [20:13:06] i.e. use Mediawiki and accept its limits [20:13:35] but you may decide there's software that better suits your needs, depending what they are [20:13:38] the goals I mean [20:14:10] well major branching and flow control are not that important to a technical documentation base for standard operating procedures and the like [20:14:21] whereas information linking is. [20:14:52] the only other thing that could possibly be useful is twiki's namespacing capabilities, though I'm not so into twiki :) [20:15:00] (then again its project management module has my eye) [20:16:26] I only played with twiki several years back, no idea what it looks like these days [20:16:37] i hate the way it handles categories. [20:16:43] I REALLY hate the way it handles categories. [20:16:53] how does it? [20:17:05] in a nutshell, poorly. I recall some 50 lines of code being involved. [20:17:11] MEdiaWiki needs one. [20:17:13] Why is mediawiki so full of REALLY HORRIBLE HACKS?! [20:17:31] Isarra: look at the code a couple of years ago... [20:17:31] They're ruining my really horrible hacks. [20:17:36] Because nobody has refactored them into something not-shitty and the features are useful. [20:17:42] Isarra: so there is enough material to blog about :) [20:17:44] Reedy: I think this code may be from a couple of years ago. >.> [20:17:50] That is the stock reason for things being full of really horrible hacks [20:17:52] because they work "well enough" [20:17:54] yep [20:18:09] saper: I don't have time to blog! We have to bloody fix this. o__o [20:18:28] And... uh... apparently fix core? Yeeeick. [20:18:30] Isarra: how? [20:18:31] <^demon> apergos: That, and we're very big on "what works at the time" :) [20:18:41] saper: I don't know. [20:18:54] Isarra: like, organize stuff better? [20:20:02] saper: Apparently, for some reason, instead of just using the bloody auto-increment in the user table, account creation counts the number of entries and then adds one. [20:20:25] that sounds odd (and like a race condition) [20:20:27] New review: Nikerabbit; "Not sure thath this adds *de*emphasizing effect but code is okay." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42790 [20:20:36] 03(mod) Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in small.dblist) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43668 +comment (10Nemo) [20:20:50] Ghaaaah. [20:21:11] sounds like something that needs a patch :-D [20:22:01] Can any of you make a patch? [20:22:17] well I was sort of [20:22:23] We kind of need this as soon as possible, but having something in core would probably help anyone else in a future situation down the road. [20:22:23] trying to volunteer *you* for it :-D [20:22:31] Oik. [20:22:59] This stuff is scary and I still need to work on getting all the crap it caused *out* of the database. >.< [20:23:14] And the normal guy I'd try to poke is half-asleep. [20:23:23] New review: Kaldari; "Yes, this was an unfortunate result of some refactoring of the code. We definitely will try to avoid..." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [20:23:33] 03(NEW) Link notification without titles and pre'ed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43743 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [20:23:38] New review: Nikerabbit; "Inserting TM suggestions does not enable save button. Should we make them to manually trigger a chan..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42758 [20:23:46] ashley: Would you be able to patch the account creation thing? >.> [20:24:27] New review: Catrope; "I think I spotted a typo. It looks fine to me but I'm not very familiar with this code base. Ori sho..." [mediawiki/extensions/RSS] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/3925 [20:24:58] Isarra: no, I wouldn't exactly trust my skills to do that, at least not tomorrow -- and I assume this sorta thing can't wait until the weekend or so... [20:25:10] 03(mod) Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in small.dblist) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43668 +comment (10MZMcBride) [20:25:11] 03(mod) Collapsing mw-collapsible tables is notably delayed (broken animation) in all browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31832 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [20:25:13] 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible() very slow if many collapsible, initially collapsed elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34876 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [20:25:44] Hrrrrn. [20:25:52] I need to go shopping and poke jorm and AGH. [20:25:57] * Isarra explodes all over the carpet. [20:26:18] 03(mod) Please upload a video file to Wikimedia Commons 1.81 GB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41823 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:26:51] New review: Siebrand; "Ryan, that's not a solution. Look at what happened to EducationProgram, for example. Once that was r..." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [20:27:03] Isarra: $seqVal = $dbw->nextSequenceValue( 'user_user_id_seq' ); [20:28:19] 03(mod) Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3: "Warning: file() [function.file]: Filename cannot be empty" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 (10Fabrice LÉCAUDÉ) [20:28:30] isn't nextSequenceValue null for mysql? [20:28:39] What's that? [20:29:03] So that the normal auto-increment takes place [20:29:05] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42580 [20:29:14] (Other db's need fancy stuff there I believe) [20:29:47] Fudge, this is all in specialuserlogin, isn't it? [20:30:08] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Initialization error when canceling load" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42835 [20:30:11] How convenient. [20:34:27] 03(mod) Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in small.dblist) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43668 +comment (10Nemo) [20:35:45] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38636 [20:36:02] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38812 [20:37:17] New review: Nikerabbit; "Mmmm megacommit. LU should have more unit tests." [mediawiki/extensions/LocalisationUpdate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42777 [20:37:26] Nikerabbit: mooaar tests [20:38:19] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Please rename this method to getClickCount or something similar. clickCounter is a noun, method name..." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39788 [20:38:37] 03(mod) Add support for git branches to ExtensionDistributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37946 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:38:52] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Showing Special:NotifyTranslators is restricted" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41567 [20:39:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41567 [20:39:35] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39834 [20:40:55] Anyone good with the database abstraction layer? >.> [20:41:16] 03(mod) ExtensionDistributor: Implement support for having both Git extensions and SVN extensions (both with appropiate branch list and trunk/master) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36802 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:41:29] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39846 [20:42:23] 03(mod) [Regression] ExtensionDistributor: SVN-only extensions no longer downloadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38188 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:42:43] Isarra: "good"? [20:42:45] Ask your question :p [20:43:32] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "Triple-Click Detection for IE" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39788 [20:43:48] 03(mod) Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3: "Warning: file() [function.file]: Filename cannot be empty" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 (10Fabrice LÉCAUDÉ) [20:43:52] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39788 [20:44:04] Reedy: What's nextsequencevalue supposed to be doing? [20:44:07] 03(mod) Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3: "Warning: file() [function.file]: Filename cannot be empty" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 (10Fabrice LÉCAUDÉ) [20:44:26] 03(mod) Validator 0.5.x and MediaWiki 1.19.3: "Warning: file() [function.file]: Filename cannot be empty" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43607 (10Fabrice LÉCAUDÉ) [20:44:26] If you've got an auto_increment value, setting the next value to use... [20:44:37] 03(mod) Add a file to extension packages with source information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30970 +comment (10Chad H.) [20:44:43] 03(mod) Please upload to Wikimedia Commons (large file) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43657 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:45:05] So for mysql there's nothing in the mediawiki and it's just using defaults... should it be getting the total number of rows+1? [20:45:20] We tested it like you said and it did what we expected. [20:45:22] Not that. [20:45:27] But in the mediawiki it's doing that. [20:45:32] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "(bug 42398) Kill ve.ce.Meta{Block,Inline}Node, not needed." [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39847 [20:45:42] No [20:45:47] New review: Trevor Parscal; "Rebased with master" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39847 [20:45:52] "using defaults"? [20:45:53] Well, it is. How do we make it stop? [20:45:57] Stop what? [20:46:02] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39847 [20:46:04] There's no nextsequencevalue defined for mysql. [20:46:06] 03(mod) Record stats on extension downloads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25844 +easy (10Chad H.) [20:46:15] Stop counting the number of rows and instead use the damn autoincrement. [20:46:26] o_0 [20:47:01] Well, at least that's not supposed to happen... O_o [20:47:57] Well, we didn't test it in the same table... hold on, just to be sure... [20:49:52] 03(mod) Collapsing mw-collapsible tables is notably delayed (broken animation) in all browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31832 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:52:23] New patchset: Brian Wolff; "(bug 42246) allow hiding patrol entries from main Special:log" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42279 [20:54:09] New review: Brian Wolff; "PS2: Still keep old default behaviour of only enable filtering if RC/NP patrol is enabled, but now a..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42279 [20:54:30] Reedy: Okay, our mysql is apparently weirdly configured. Except if it's the ubuntu default to be like this, that... uh... crap. [20:54:44] where do i edit the email when a registration comes it says unknown sender where can i edit that [20:54:53] 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Polish language (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42412 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:55:03] bawolff: ^ [20:55:21] Isarra: yay broken things from linux repos [20:55:29] MatmaRex: Yay! [20:55:45] Also holy crap, is this extension broken. [20:56:03] There is nothing like testing on a real active wiki... >__< [20:56:06] MatmaRex: give me a moment and I'll try. I was trying sweedish because its really easy to see if the orders right [20:56:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42850 [20:56:18] where do i edit the email when a registration comes it says unknown sender where can i edit that [20:56:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way to see the target of a link without triggering the inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37904 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:56:36] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42850 [20:56:44] HelpPLox: They'll get to you :) just give them time [20:56:45] bawolff: alright [20:56:49] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way to see the target of a link without triggering the inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37904 (10James Forrester) [20:56:58] bawolff: you can export that category contents form my wiki to your to test easily [20:57:15] bawolff: http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki/index.php?title=Kategoria:Test [20:57:47] bawolff: also, it's pretty easy to test as well, letters with diacritic should *not* go at the end ;) [20:58:08] lol :) [20:58:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Things are sometimes alienated as block when they should be inline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43056 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:58:24] 03(NEW) Decide on Claim diffing and patching behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43744 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [20:58:25] also, I should just be happy its latin based script [20:58:36] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42835 [20:58:58] Testing anything in chinese, arabic, or indian-based script is a PITA since all the letters look the same to me [20:59:09] haha [20:59:13] yeah, i know that [20:59:24] i was once working on the handling of the variants menu in a skin [20:59:26] <^demon> EnRtl is fun :) [20:59:31] i hope to never have to do that egain [20:59:33] again* [20:59:38] 03(NEW) Implement Claim diffing and patching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43745 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [20:59:53] 03(mod) Implement Claim diffing and patching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43745 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [20:59:55] 03(mod) EntityDiff must include claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43021 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [20:59:56] 03(mod) Decide on Claim diffing and patching behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43744 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [20:59:57] 03(mod) After switching patrolling off, impossible to effectively hide patrol log entries in Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42246 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [21:00:03] 03(mod) Implement Claim diffing and patching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43745 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [21:00:16] where do i edit the email when a registration comes it says unknown sender where can i edit that [21:00:21] ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43547 by the way) [21:00:38] HelpPLox: it's in one of the messages in the MediaWiki: namespace, let me look [21:00:56] Try using serbian for the variants. It goes between Crylic and latin letters, which is a billion times easier (for me at least) [21:01:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Some elements not alienated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43076 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:01:38] HelpPLox: go to [[Special:AllMessages]] on your wiki and type in "email" as the prefix [21:01:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Some elements not alienated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43076 (10James Forrester) [21:02:01] the one you're looking for should be there, somewhere - click the link in the left column and enter new contents [21:02:07] try enotif as the prefix too. lots of the email msgs start with that [21:02:09] bawolff: that's what i ended up with at the end [21:02:23] New patchset: Trevor Parscal; "More {String} -> {string} conversions in documentation" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42851 [21:02:24] where is special all messages at? [21:02:35] HelpPLox: a page called Special:AllMessages on your wiki [21:02:45] just paste that into the search box. [21:02:58] New review: Kaldari; "Of course we consider messaging. We discuss messaging implications at every design meeting. Unfortun..." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [21:02:59] bawolff: but the cyryllic menu are kind of hard to navigate as well ;) [21:02:59] 03(NEW) File [mwe-upwiz-queued] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43746 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [21:03:02] menus* [21:03:12] i did it cant find it [21:03:24] then use enotif prefix, as bawolff said [21:03:52] There is a page named "Special:AllMessages" on this wiki. [21:03:52] HelpPLox: e.g. for the English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllMessages&prefix=enotif&filter=all&lang=en&limit=50 [21:04:04] HelpPLox: yes, click that link. [21:04:48] so confusing -_- [21:04:53] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42851 [21:05:53] 03(mod) File [mwe-upwiz-queued] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43746 (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:06:47] HelpPLox: what's the exact text of the message you want to change? [21:06:57] im new and i dont really understand anything on that link im sorry [21:07:09] when a user gets a registration email [21:07:12] it says unknown [21:07:15] MatmaRex: it works for me (with a dummy first letters .ser file) [21:07:15] in front of it [21:07:31] unknown sender [21:07:35] HelpPLox: The from address? [21:07:50] where it would say a name [21:07:54] like godaddy [21:07:56] or somethen [21:08:02] says (unknown address) [21:08:41] HelpPLox: well, please be more precise about your issues :/ this looks like an email misconfiguration, then [21:08:48] I'm not sure what you're referring to. But who the email appears to come from is controlled by $wgPasswordSenderName [21:08:52] !mw $wgPasswordSenderName [21:08:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$wgPasswordSenderName [21:08:53] but it might be your email client being misconfigured as well [21:08:55] Change merged: Mattflaschen; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42725 [21:09:19] bawolff: let me test again... [21:09:52] MatmaRex: Make a file named serialized/first-letters-pl.ser that's just a copy of the root one [21:10:16] Change abandoned: Demon; "Going to rewrite this to do tags instead, with less remote magic." [mediawiki/extensions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32470 [21:10:23] Dereckson: I'm looking at the change-set I did yesterday: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42707/ what does the checkmark under "Reviewed" next to Git2Pages.body.php mean? [21:10:43] DanielK_WMDE_: hello! It looks like there was a whole overhaul to the code to read and modify page contents in MW 1.21. [21:10:48] Mostly done by you. [21:10:48] and then give 'pl' as the argument to that collation class [21:11:01] so $wgPasswordSenderName is in the config file or somethen [21:11:08] cause that link is blank [21:11:18] HelpPLox: Its in a file called LocalSettings.php [21:11:23] ok [21:11:26] thanks [21:11:31] HelpPLox: sorry I gave you the wrong link [21:11:41] !wg PasswordSenderName [21:11:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPasswordSenderName [21:11:49] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42853 [21:11:57] yaron: yes, indeed. i got rid of the assumption that wiki pages always contain wikitext. [21:12:13] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42853 [21:12:16] Ah - that makes sense that it's related to the new ContentHandler... [21:12:20] yaron: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ContentHandler [21:12:40] DanielK_WMDE_: Right. My question is: can there be a wrapper function or something that takes care of creating the Content object and everything, for the basic case where the page does hold wikitext? [21:13:09] ...so that it can be as simple as it used to be, of just calling one method? [21:13:10] bawolff: i'm amazed, but it apparently worked now [21:13:13] new WikitextCounten( $text ) [21:13:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clean up meta nodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42398 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:13:23] err, WikitextCountent [21:13:46] Right. Well, that's two lines already. :) (You also need to call doEdit().) [21:13:48] bawolff: i have no idea what didn't work for me when i was creating that bug [21:13:53] yaron: Content objects hold no meta info, they just represent the content itself. They know nothing about revisions, etc. [21:14:00] bawolff: (the first-letters are not split, of course) [21:14:15] I imagine you didn't have the first letters file. An exception gets thrown if MW can't find that [21:14:28] that's possible [21:14:32] and very undocumented :P [21:14:42] DanielK_WMDE_: okay, fine. I actually thought it was even more complex than that - that you also needed to pass in a content model and format and such. [21:14:45] yaron: doEditContent(). if you call doEdit, that will try to parse whatever you give to it according to the content model associated with the page (per default, derived from namespace and title) [21:14:53] Oh... [21:15:14] Yes, right. [21:15:20] You do pass in the content model and format - the Content model knows it. [21:15:36] that info is implicit in new WikitextContent(...) [21:15:51] err, the Content *object* knows it. sorry [21:15:51] Okay - so instead of calling doEdit(), you have to construct a WikitextContent object, then call doEditContent() - two lines instead of one. [21:16:07] if you start out with a string, yes. [21:16:08] That's not so bad - I thought it was worse than that. [21:16:08] MatmaRex: I don't know if you've noticed, but the collation system isn't exactly dripping with documentation :P [21:16:13] Right. [21:16:19] yaron: but usually, you already have a Content object [21:16:47] Well, not in the case of the Replace Text extension; that's what I'm modifying now. [21:16:58] But that makes sense, for the general wiki editing case. [21:17:00] So next major thing to make the collation system actually work for everyone is an automated script that creates those first letter files for other langs [21:17:11] bawolff: well, yeah, but this is somehting i apparent wasn't able to figure out by reading the code+comments [21:17:40] bawolff: what is the general format for those files? would it be enough to just take all the letter from those alphabets? [21:17:46] DanielK_WMDE_: thanks! [21:17:54] you seem to be the right person to ask this :P [21:18:00] yaron: if you have some code that operates on text only, you need to check that you are actually dealing with textual content: [21:18:38] if ( $content instanceof TextContent ) $text = $content->getNativeData(); [21:18:50] MatmaRex: basically those files are a serialized php array containing every letter that can be a heading [21:18:53] terrrydactyl: I can't see that patchset, but I'd guess it means that you've +2'd it. [21:18:58] WikitextContent derived from TextContent. So do JavaScriptContent and CSSContent [21:19:01] (or someone else has) [21:19:16] bawolff: just an array? huh. [21:19:24] MatmaRex: In the collation speak, roughly every character (except whitespace) that has its own primary weight [21:19:28] bawolff: why doesn;t it default to *all* the letters? [21:19:37] bawolff: (as in, the parts of unicode marked as being letters) [21:19:39] DanielK_WMDE_: well, in the case of Replace Text, it's all text. [21:19:56] marktraceur: I haven't +2 it. It's in draft mode so only Dereckson can see it at the moment. But I can add you too [21:20:01] this could be tested with a regexp [21:20:02] MatmaRex: Some letters are considered semi equivalent (there's 3 levels of sorting by default) [21:20:05] I mean, the $content object is just being generated for the sake of editing the page. [21:20:14] Modifying the page, rather. [21:20:51] bawolff: i dunno, it seems like it would make sense to define the letters are don't create their own heading (by mapping them to other lettrs that do) [21:21:06] For example "ab" should be before "Ac" which both should be before "ad" [21:21:06] it would make more sense to me* [21:21:06] Sure sure [21:21:25] but i'm not too unicode-educated [21:21:35] So only one of "a" or "A" should have an entry in the first letters [21:21:35] Oh [21:21:46] (enough to figure out encodings and normalization forms) [21:21:47] terrrydactyl: If there's a checkmark next to a *file*, it means you've looked at that file [21:22:02] terrrydactyl: Nice little feature of Gerrit that will help you make sure you didn't skip anything [21:22:18] 03(mod) Collapsing mw-collapsible tables is notably delayed (broken animation) in all browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31832 +comment (10TMg) [21:22:22] marktraceur: ohhhh okay. that makes sense. thanks! [21:22:55] marktraceur: do you mind looking over the code? there's not much but i want to see if the way i get command line arguments is the right way. [21:23:00] MatmaRex: in some languages, things with accents are sorted as if they were their non-accented counter parts, but both are considered "letters" according to unicode [21:23:16] terrrydactyl: Sounds fine, sure [21:23:19] and if both were in the first letter list, there would be a lot of extra headings [21:23:52] In general it goes on which characters have their own primary weights (for example - in this chart http://collation-charts.org/icu442/icu442-pl.html that's everything with its own row) [21:23:56] bawolff: i know all about accents, though, polish has four types ;) [21:24:09] bawolff: i'm just wondering why isn't it "in reverse", in a way [21:24:30] terrrydactyl: So....I think you've misunderstood how this works, can I PM? [21:24:42] well, anyway. this would just be the matter of adding ĄŻŚŹĘĆŃÓŁ to that file? [21:24:46] In reverse? [21:25:22] yaron: if you want to modify a page, you have to get it's current content. Revision::getContent() will return a Content object. Wikipage::getText() is deprecated [21:25:37] so, to medify *text*, you have to access text. [21:26:02] bawolff: it would make sense to me to define the letters that *don't* create their own heading (by mapping them to other letters that do) [21:26:17] but okay, doesn't matter [21:26:18] DanielK_WMDE_: Right - I'm calling $wikiPage->getContent()->getWikitextForTransclusion(). [21:26:22] thanks for the explanations [21:26:39] I was wondering about that, too - is there a better method to call than getWikitextForTransclusion()? [21:26:46] MatmaRex: I imagine that would be more robust in many ways [21:26:59] yaron: ugh... i shouldn't have created that method at all, it should die. it's misleading. [21:27:13] Okay, good to know. [21:27:31] yaron: imagine you use this extension on a page with FooContent, which will generate some artifical wikitext for use when included. [21:27:42] Fine, you've convinced me. :) [21:27:45] So what do I call? [21:27:56] yaron: then you get that phoney wikitext, do a search&replace, and save it as wikitext. then the FooContent is gone. [21:28:05] Fine, okay. [21:28:10] you call getNativeData after checking that it's TextContent [21:28:15] if it's not, just bail out [21:28:24] Ah, okay. [21:29:02] if you only want wikitext specifically, you don't even need to load the content [21:29:19] if ( $title->getContentModel() !== CONTENT_MODEL_WIKITEXT ) return true; [21:29:58] Alright, cool. [21:30:15] or, slightly hackish: if ( ! ( $title->getContentHandler() instanceof TextContentHandler ) ) return true; [21:30:42] 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Polish language (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42412 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:31:27] By the way - can I reuse the same $content object for reading and writing? In other words, is there something like $content->changeText()? [21:32:17] New review: Lupo; "For me, too. (FF 17; Safari 6; and Chrome 23)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35822 [21:35:25] yaron: no, i designed the basic Content objects to be imutable. That allows some optimizations and avoids confusion. [21:35:43] Okay, that was my guess. [21:35:44] For complext Content objects, this is a bit annoying, and so Wikibase's EntityContent is mutable. [21:35:58] Well, lucky you. :0 [21:36:25] I don't like it, but I went along with the decision :P [21:37:14] I see, okay. You weren't trying to get special treatment. :) [21:38:17] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Who is actually maintaining UW nowadays?" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35822 [21:38:40] New review: Lupo; "Works (tested FF17, Safari6, and Chrome 23), but I don't see the point. Why not use the browser's na..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:38:43] JeroenDeDauw: "maintain" is a really strong term, but kaldari and I keep an eye on it sometimes [21:39:45] marktraceur: well, got 3 easy changes for you to review then :) [21:39:58] * marktraceur leaps up and down in joy [21:39:59] 2 of which have been sitting there a while already [21:40:02] lol [21:40:16] And all have +1s [21:40:42] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42855 [21:40:58] JeroenDeDauw: Hit me with some links? [21:41:32] marktraceur: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+owner:jeroendedauw%2540gmail.com,n,z [21:44:26] New review: Lupo; "I guess that'd be Ryan Kaldari. I got my last changes reviewed and merged by contacting him by e-mai..." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35822 [21:44:27] JeroenDeDauw: Hm, can I assume you've tested this? It might take me a bit to set up UW again (I haven't tested it in a while) [21:44:31] 03(mod) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17064 (10Valerie Juarez) [21:44:31] 03(mod) Add support for git branches to ExtensionDistributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37946 (10Amgine) [21:44:52] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Lupo: then why don't you +2 on verified? :)" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:45:55] 03(mod) Save Draft Button is enabled before doing any changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19684 (10Valerie Juarez) [21:46:17] marktraceur: I tested yes [21:46:26] And looks like Lup just verified 2 of them [21:46:38] New review: MarkTraceur; "Per siebrand and Jeroen." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42589 [21:46:38] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42589 [21:47:04] New review: Lupo; "How'd I do that? I only see +1/0/-1 on "Code review", but nothing on "verified"." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:47:28] 03(mod) Category sorting should be case-sensitive on iswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30722 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [21:48:01] New review: MarkTraceur; "Again per siebrand and Jeroen." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35822 [21:48:01] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35822 [21:48:08] 03(mod) Enable Article Feedback Tool v4 on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43328 +comment (10Emanuele Raoli) [21:48:37] Change abandoned: MaxSem; "Boo." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42855 [21:49:20] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42857 [21:49:33] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding More Info link to Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [21:52:45] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42857 [21:52:58] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42857 [21:54:16] New review: MarkTraceur; "Missed one important review item, but then I can merge 'er for you." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:54:28] JeroenDeDauw: Unlikely, but I found something you'll need to change [21:56:48] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Use jquery ui buttons on Special:UploadCampaign" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:57:41] marktraceur: yay :) [21:57:45] New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Added support for new ContentHandler approach in MediaWiki 1.21" [mediawiki/extensions/ReplaceText] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42860 [21:58:46] New review: MarkTraceur; "Rockin!" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:58:47] Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35821 [21:58:57] JeroenDeDauw: Right, if things break I'll be coming after you [22:00:03] 03(mod) User isn't directed to draft when draft link is clicked from Preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19685 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:00:56] marktraceur: /me makes a note for browser tests for Special:UploadCampaign . got a nickel says 35821 isn't going to work in some browsers [22:01:47] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10Nemo) [22:01:58] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/ReplaceText] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42860 [22:02:39] 03(mod) Category sorting should be case-sensitive on iswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30722 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:04:03] chrismcmahon: That wouldn't shock me, but UploadCampaigns don't often get used by most people. If it's a problem we can revert it. [22:04:17] marktraceur: understood [22:04:47] chrismcmahon: See above re: Me coming after JeroenDeDauw if things break :) [22:04:59] marktraceur: just btw, if you ever run across something that wants browser tests, feel free to park it at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/test_backlog#Backlog [22:05:05] Oh sure. [22:05:25] * marktraceur goes to put EtherEditor at the very bottom of the list [22:05:32] marktraceur: I'm afraid you'll have to join the queue :D [22:05:38] sweet! thanks marktraceur good idea [22:05:55] I mean, *really* the bottom [22:06:15] sucheta is working on it now, and so we'll have great things soon, to test, but it's currently not finished and not deployed anywhere. So no problem! :) [22:06:38] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42687 [22:08:53] 03(mod) Semantic Maps Query via Ask API causes exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43620 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:09:31] 03(mod) Password reset of wikipedia-fi-arbcom-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43691 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:11:04] New review: Mattflaschen; "It would be nice if this used Nagios instead. It can send its own emails." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42752 [22:11:58] New review: Anomie; "> Mmmm megacommit." [mediawiki/extensions/LocalisationUpdate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42777 [22:12:08] New patchset: Anomie; "Clean up LocalisationUpdate" [mediawiki/extensions/LocalisationUpdate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42777 [22:12:12] 03(mod) [Fatal error] Attempt to get the latitude of an invalid location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38632 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:12:26] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ContentHandler::getContentText() must implement interface Content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43727 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [22:12:36] New review: Anomie; "PS2: Remove redundant "global $IP"" [mediawiki/extensions/LocalisationUpdate] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42777 [22:13:06] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Multiple servers in one SqlBagOStuff" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42862 [22:13:06] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Use consistent hashing for SqlBagOStuff servers" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42863 [22:13:14] 03(mod) Distance calculation leads to giant error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42895 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:13:46] * bawolff spent much more time today on mediawiki then he meant to [22:14:25] bawolff: story of my life [22:14:38] its addicting [22:15:03] oh well, could be worse - if i spent this much time watching tv it would be really pointless [22:15:17] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42862 [22:15:23] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42863 [22:16:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "bug 40871: prevent people from acidentally running testing scripts and thus causing security issues and other badness" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42864 [22:20:04] any of you work on that fiverr site [22:20:09] 03(mod) Creating Claim with Snak using wikibase-item type needs validation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43004 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:20:15] that does a bunch of mod work for 5 bucks [22:20:20] :> [22:20:53] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43498) (bug 43574) Two wikilink types and {{int:}}." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41808 [22:21:39] where do i download http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo the link dont work [22:22:22] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42866 [22:22:38] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42866 [22:23:32] New patchset: Bsitu; "Adding More Info link to Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [22:23:42] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43498) (bug 43574) Two wikilink types and {{int:}}." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41808 [22:24:34] hi HelpPLox -- I'm looking re EmbedVideo now [22:24:51] HelpPLox: I'm looking at https://github.com/Whiteknight/mediawiki-embedvideo and I see it. Don't you? [22:25:23] It does look like the link in the infobox is broken. Lemme see if I can fix it quick [22:25:24] 03(mod) Swedish-language wikis should use Swedish-locale sorting (ie. ��� should sort correctly) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29788 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [22:25:36] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42351 [22:25:53] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 43498) (bug 43574) Two wikilink types and {{int:}}." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41808 [22:26:10] fixed. [22:26:59] 03(NEW) Link to file description page is undiscoverable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43747 major; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [22:28:00] New review: Mattflaschen; "Sorry for the three in close succession. Patch set 10 passes lint and all tests, and fixes all the ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41808 [22:28:44] 03(mod) Video player doesn't include copyright/licensing information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31583 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [22:28:45] 03(mod) Link to file description page is undiscoverable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43747 (10Nemo) [22:31:46] hello! Question about using subpages in mainspace: My project uses $wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array_fill(2, 200, true); which is allegedly the way to go to enable subpage usage for mainspace, as well as all of your other namespaces (supposing you have < 200) [22:32:09] yes [22:32:13] However, {{/subpage}} does not seem to be working in mainspace, although (strangely enough) it works fine in user space. [22:32:32] Oh, the code you have is for all namespaces > 2 and < 200 [22:32:41] main namespace is 0 (and talk is 1) [22:32:48] Ah, so...ok then! [22:32:52] try $wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array_fill(0, 200, true); [22:32:53] instead [22:32:57] I shall punch the moron who set this, sir! [22:33:01] :D [22:33:09] lol [22:34:45] 03(mod) #ask does not work inside #ifeq or #switch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39132 +comment (10Nemo) [22:34:45] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:34:51] 03(mod) Map input broken: Uncaught ReferenceError: google is not defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42315 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:35:00] 03(mod) Content/User language mix ups leading to visual distortion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43205 (10Nemo) [22:35:03] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:35:09] 03(mod) Argument 2 passed to SMWValueDescription::__construct() must be an instance of SMWDIProperty, integer given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37671 (10Nemo) [22:35:11] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:35:15] 03(mod) apaches boxes should use role::applicationserver::appserver class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43706 normal->trivial (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:35:17] 03(mod) Undefined index: formHTML, formJS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42624 (10Nemo) [22:35:19] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:35:26] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:35:26] 03(mod) #forminput pollutes cache with UI language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39478 (10Nemo) [22:35:38] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 39397) Only show rollback links if they work" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312 [22:35:59] 03(mod) LinkedPage was linked by 127.0.0.1 from this page: ChangedPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43701 +comment (10Quim Gil) [22:36:01] New review: Hoo man; "Addressed Anomie's comments" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312 [22:36:44] 03(mod) mb_check_encoding() change in php 5.4.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43679 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:37:08] 03(NEW) Only first few seconds of video play on android phone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43748 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [22:37:09] bawolff: you still there? [22:37:19] yep. I swear I'm leaving soon though [22:37:28] 03(mod) optional background colour aids people with dyslexia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43677 +comment (10Gerard Meijssen) [22:37:51] bawolff: why an extension for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29788#c18 ? [22:37:53] why not add it to core? [22:38:01] 03(mod) testextensions should find parsertests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42506 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:38:26] It just seems like something that in the long run should be replaced by something based on the fancy unicode collation stuff [22:38:28] 03(mod) Configure jenkins to build mwdumper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41634 normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:38:46] If its in core, it has to stay in core forever and ever for compatability reasons [22:39:14] 03(mod) Argument 2 passed to SMWValueDescription::__construct() must be an instance of SMWDIProperty, integer given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37671 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [22:39:21] (or at least that's my line of though. I could certainly see arguments for putting it in core. After all its a pretty small class) [22:39:27] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42869 [22:40:01] well, i don't know [22:40:17] IMO we'd have to support only the collation name, if anything [22:40:42] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42869 [22:41:02] or, it could be called simply "sv", and then we'd (hopefully) be able to seamlessly switch to real collation someday [22:41:17] 03(mod) The "not" comparator should be usable on categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21317 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [22:41:22] but if the details of the collation change in any significant way, updateCollation.php has to be run so that the categories become sorted consistently [22:41:42] the only thing being nuked would be the class itself [22:41:45] hm, good point [22:41:48] 03(NEW) Inconsistent listing of transcluded changes in floating window and My Notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43749 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [22:41:49] ideally different versions of the same collation would have different names so updateCollation.php can identify rows in need of update [22:42:14] how hard would it be to do it "properly"? [22:42:24] obviously more wikis than just sv.wiki want this feature [22:42:39] To be honest I'm not sure [22:43:00] all these bugs have been open for a while, but otoh nobody has really been working on them [22:43:05] 03(mod) Insert Links : Link suggestions are not refreshed in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20866 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:05] 03(mod) Paging shall be introduced when user has many drafts in the list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19853 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:06] 03(mod) Draft Save button is not enabled when spell check is done - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19710 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:09] 03(mod) Default set Minor edit is always checked for unchecked too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19745 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:09] 03(mod) 'Save Draft' button is not enabled when text is droped to Edit area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19744 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:10] yeah, this i noticed :P [22:43:11] 03(mod) draft_edittime is same for all the drafts fof an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19701 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:13] 03(mod) Draft count shall be displayed in Special:Draft page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19826 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) Count shall be refreshed when a draft is Saved in Preview window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19743 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) Should be able to sort Drafts list by page as well as by save time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19695 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) A draft is saved when there is no content in the article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19737 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) Associated Drafts are not moved when an article is published - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19837 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) User can access the expired drafts throug saved bookmarks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19767 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:22] 03(mod) Chrome : Shortcut keys are not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19764 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:23] 03(mod) Existing draft list shall be refreshed when a draft is created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19687 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:24] 03(mod) Draft created once when 'Preview', 'Show Changes' are clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19738 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:25] oh god what the hell [22:43:27] I think the main thing is that all the first letters things need to be made in some automated fashion [22:43:28] 03(mod) Drafts created before saving the article are not listed in Edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19731 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:29] 03(mod) Page summary is displayed in page edit window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19732 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:31] 03(mod) Drafts' summary shall be displayed in existing list and Special:Draft - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19824 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:31] 03(mod) Opera : 'Save Draft' is not enable when text is cut/paste - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19749 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:32] 03(mod) Show changes dispaly text from other sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19765 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:32] silly Valerie [22:43:33] 03(mod) Drafts' saved time is not displayed when a draft is saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19735 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:34] 03(mod) User shall be acknowledged when a draft is auto saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19703 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:35] 03(mod) 'Save Draft' button is not enabled when external editor is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19740 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:36] 03(mod) Existing drafts are not listed when a draft is saved with JS disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19782 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:36] 03(mod) IE 8 : Shortcut key for saving draft is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19779 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:37] 03(mod) Autosave cannot be configured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19706 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:38] 03(mod) 'Save Draft' is not enabled when content is deleted from popup menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19763 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:42] 03(mod) IE8: Scroll bar is not positioned to previous location as a draft is opened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19854 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:42] 03(mod) Draft lists includes redundant information and is not easy to navigate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19690 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:42] 03(mod) Preview of sections with exiting page shall be available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19766 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:43] 03(mod) Save Draft button is not enabled when edit tool bar is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19702 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:44] 03(mod) Drafts are discarded without any user confirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19689 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:45] WHEN WILL THIS END [22:43:45] 03(mod) User shall be able to discard multiple drafts at once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19825 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:46] 03(mod) Previous drafts are not listed when a page is restored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19734 (10Valerie Juarez) [22:43:47] 03(mod) filebackend tests should use their own $wgFilebackends configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40491 15enhancement->normal (10Nemo) [22:43:56] New patchset: Hoo man; "(bug 39397) Only show rollback links if they work" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312 [22:43:58] right. done now? [22:44:05] bawolff: yeah, this i noticed :P if we solve https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43740 somehow [22:44:27] bawolff: isn't the unicode data for this available in a nice format somewhere? [22:44:37] I think so, as part of the CLDR thingy [22:44:50] (nice is arguable, but some sort of computer processable format) [22:44:57] New review: Hoo man; "Rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31312 [22:44:59] well, a crappy format will do, too [22:45:18] MatmaRex: Sorry! [22:45:46] 03(mod) Some PHP Warnings in /scripts/processMessageChanges.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41864 (10Nemo) [22:45:48] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:46:04] Those who cannot handle bigger bug report changes shall not put a bot in IRC reporting bug report changes in IRC ;) [22:46:44] i just love when the bot interrupts my mw-related talking with a STREAM OF REPORTS [22:46:45] MatmaRex: the format looks something like & A < ą <<< Ą [22:46:52] but oh well, this wasn't so bad [22:46:58] 03(mod) Notice given when TextContent constructed with $text = false should name caller - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41735 (10Nemo) [22:46:58] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:47:04] valeriej: at least it seems like you used the batch change feature [22:47:13] there's some examples at http://developer.mimer.com/charts/tailorings.htm (I thin that's roughly how it looks anyways, i need to find the actual files) [22:47:15] some people don't, then just manually spam for fifteen minutes [22:47:49] MatmaRex: That would have been me, but andre__ just showed me how to use the batch change feature. So, yay? [22:47:55] thanks bawolff! [22:47:56] valeriej: yay [22:47:58] 03(mod) glusterfs log files are not rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41104 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [22:47:59] valeriej: don't mind MatmaRex - he's 1 out of 255 people in this channel and it's ok to annoy him once or twice. :) [22:48:21] grmph. [22:48:23] he's a bit more vocal than most [22:48:30] lol [22:48:34] bawolff: i'll look into it, thanks [22:48:41] terrrydactyl: how is your work going today? [22:48:43] 03(mod) LinkedPage was linked by 127.0.0.1 from this page: ChangedPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43701 (10bsitu) [22:48:51] my experiences with Grumpy has been delightful [22:48:51] :-) [22:48:56] he can be very helpful as well! it is true! [22:49:05] fun fact: "Grumpy" is registered. [22:49:08] ha! [22:49:09] 03(mod) Argument 2 passed to SMWValueDescription::__construct() must be an instance of SMWDIProperty, integer given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37671 (10Nemo) [22:49:30] perhaps Bartosz changes his personality and is a different one of the Seven Dwarves of legend each day of the week :-) [22:49:33] Tomorrow: Sneezy [22:49:34] goodish! mark explained to me more about how extensions worked and it was definitely helpful but it meant that my own interpretation was wrong [22:49:39] sumanah: haha [22:49:46] in the process of downloading mediawiki so i can test it locally [22:49:54] as Dan Kaminsky says, when you find out you were wrong, it means the world is more interesting than you thought it was [22:49:59] * bawolff really leaves this time [22:50:00] yeah [22:50:03] bye bawolff! [22:50:19] i've been constantly making mistakes since i started [22:50:22] terrrydactyl: giant git pull? yeah, it's like, time to go sort socks or something [22:50:25] 03(mod) Inconsistent listing of transcluded changes in floating window and My Notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43749 (10bsitu) [22:50:27] but they've really helped me learn [22:50:29] sumanah: i'm usually Sleepy ;) [22:50:30] that's good, of course, it means you're learning :-) [22:50:32] do i leave this line as is require_once( "$IP/extensions/EmbedVideo/EmbedVideo.php" ); or do i gotta put the http:// url path where that money sign is [22:50:50] New patchset: Kaldari; "Updating Notifications to new formatting system (separate flyout messages)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42872 [22:50:52] terrrydactyl: I have been in internships where I froze up because I was afraid of making mistakes. WAY LESS LEARNING [22:51:04] HelpPLox: no, this line looks good. [22:51:20] sumanah: yeah! i'm learning that making mistakes isn't necessarily bad esp since i can't really mess up anything core. :) [22:51:42] very true! [22:51:48] we will protect you from yourself [22:51:50] or try to [22:52:11] 03(mod) Add inline editor to Special:Translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37019 +comment (10Nemo) [22:52:55] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-November/064718.html Here is an example of a time when we did not sufficiently protect things. It was noteworthy enough that we wrote a postmortem and saw it as a process issue to fix. [22:53:32] oh no, it's that change again. /me hides [22:53:50] 03(mod) successbox contains a p element in a strong element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33438 +easy (10Nemo) [22:53:51] i'm glad no one at en.wiki figured out i was the one who broke it [22:54:19] maybe I should take out an ad - wait, we're ad-free! [22:54:20] * sumanah is jesting. [22:54:20] i just fixed the last bits of breakage stemming from this last weekend... [22:54:27] ;) [22:54:36] :) [22:54:58] my friend Brian Marick (one of the authors of the Agile Manifesto) famously *plans* to say something stupid early on in every meeting, so that he feels liberated to say anything subsequently [22:55:01] sumanah: oh, do you know what i've been cooking lately? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39792/ [22:55:13] sumanah: if not done right, this has potential for similar effects ;) [22:55:26] 03(mod) Give ad-hoc email notification for thread move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37583 +comment (10Nemo) [22:55:27] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [22:55:36] MatmaRex: thank you for the heads-up! I guess you'd email wikitech-l about it for a better heads-up? [22:55:42] (to people who Know These Things) [22:55:43] like RoanKattouw [22:56:06] sumanah: when i'm reasonably certain myself that those new styles don't break existing HTML [22:56:08] 03(mod) When creating a new thread, several duplicates are created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39112 +testme (10Nemo) [22:56:11] More like People Who Are 70 Threads Behind On Wikitech-l Right Now [22:56:15] sumanah: i've got them enabled in my personal stylesheet ;) [22:56:26] and when i get people to review it [22:56:41] okay! [22:56:53] sorry, I hadn't looked deeply enough at the review history there. [22:56:54] i'll certainly mail wikitech and ambassadors when (if) it gets merged [22:57:22] I can help you write an ambassadors-friendly paragraph in summary if you want, MatmaRex, I am good at that [22:58:13] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41363 [22:58:13] 03(mod) Add inline editor to Special:Translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37019 +comment (10Siebrand) [22:58:30] 03(mod) Summary field with 4 tildes gets warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43496 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo) [22:58:44] sumanah: thanks, i'll probably take the release-note and expand on it a little ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39792/5/RELEASE-NOTES-1.21 ) [22:59:39] Right. I'd like us to go 1 extra step and say "THESE WIKIS" or "THESE TEMPLATES" or whatever (link link link) are the kinds of things that will break ... fix them! [22:59:49] if possible. [23:00:26] 03(mod) Summary field with 4 tildes gets warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43496 +comment (10Siebrand) [23:00:29] sumanah: hopefully nothing will need fixing [23:00:48] ah ok. [23:00:50] sumanah: i've looked at some custom toc templates on en.wiki and they should keep working in the same way as right now [23:00:55] cool, cool [23:01:02] it is possible that thing may break, of course [23:01:13] if somebody was abusing the class or the id badly [23:01:23] like, i don't know, putting it on an infobox [23:01:48] but in these cases, id=toc / class=toc will have to be replaced with class=toccolours [23:02:04] and this should be the only change necessary [23:02:05] that's a good example of the sort to include in the email to ambassadors. concrete thing [23:02:06] sure [23:02:10] yeah [23:02:36] but i'm afraid i'm underestimating the creativity of users :P [23:02:41] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Will merge after comment has been taken care off" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31727 [23:03:02] 1 example helps because then people can use that to think of others.... back in a bit, meeting [23:03:05] New patchset: Mwalker; "CN/TrEx 1 -- Priority Languages" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24086 [23:03:39] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Making it clear this should not be submitted yet" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/31631 [23:03:45] Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticDrilldown] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41207 [23:04:04] New patchset: Kaldari; "Determine number of notifications to display based on height of the window" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42122 [23:04:31] New review: Krinkle; "doc-fixme" [mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39788 [23:04:33] 03(mod) Invalid truncation in search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21461 +comment (10Nemo) [23:05:23] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Still needs some work, and submission against master. Anything in particular you need help with?" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (1.9.x); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30426 [23:05:29] New patchset: Kaldari; "Determine number of notifications to display based on height of the window" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42122 [23:06:29] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Dberr-usegoogle requires html markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17296 (10Nemo) [23:07:02] New review: Mwjames; "A new patch set is coming soon which will include some additional changes:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41939 [23:07:34] 03(mod) Video player doesn't include copyright/licensing information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31583 (10Nemo) [23:07:35] 03(mod) Making license and author information api accessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25624 (10Nemo) [23:09:24] 03(mod) Summary field with 4 tildes gets warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43496 +comment (10Nemo) [23:09:25] 03(mod) Configure jenkins to build mwdumper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41634 +comment (10Chad H.) [23:10:07] New review: Catrope; "You do actually need getTokenSalt() as Yuri said. It looks like PS26 actually removed needsToken()?!?" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [23:11:47] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add missing i18n message." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42877 [23:11:48] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Validate server-side events and send them as JSON." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42878 [23:12:41] hi, got 4 +1s, please merge, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42570/ [23:12:50] New review: Parent5446; "Well, no, you don't need getTokenSalt, because it defaults to '' (no salt). However, in this case, I..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/18127 [23:12:53] hashar: ^^ [23:13:06] Well damn, look at that, yurik_ is back :D [23:13:16] hehe :) [23:13:20] I haven't seen you submit any code since, what, July 2009? :) [23:13:20] hi RoanKattouw [23:13:29] RoanKattouw: vote for him to get tests run automatically hehe https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42570/ [23:13:52] look at my latest - there are over 5 patches in pipeline i think [23:14:07] Merged [23:14:12] deploying [23:14:16] gratsi, now i know who to bug :) [23:14:20] New patchset: Mwalker; "CN/TrEx 2 -- CN Aggregate Group" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24649 [23:14:59] yurik_: deployed. Should be good in a few minutes. [23:15:05] thanks :) [23:15:07] Iv installed embedvideo but i cant find the syntax codes to use on my pages to embed youtube videos where is the friggin list [23:15:13] of commands to use on videos [23:15:13] RoanKattouw: take a look at this one https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/41198/ [23:15:20] New review: Mwalker; "Patch set 10 was a rebase onto the head of CN/TrEx 1." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24649 [23:15:28] zuul still working https://integration.mediawiki.org/zuul/status so it waits for all jobs to finish before reloading its conf [23:15:30] New patchset: Relwell; "Register an error if the user input for references generates a malformed DOM" [mediawiki/extensions/Cite] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42880 [23:15:31] <^demon> hashar: I wrote a new job for mwdumper to build master periodically. [23:15:33] it will alow me to move forward on versioning [23:15:41] <^demon> If you want to setup that to do some zuul post-merge magic, feel free. [23:16:15] yurik_: Cool. I sadly don't have much time for API stuff, though, I focus on VisualEditor now [23:16:19] I've cut back to 30 hrs/wk now that I'm in grad school [23:16:34] ^demon: would be https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41634 I guess. [23:16:43] Which ... I guess last time we spoke, I was in high school, wow [23:16:45] ^demon: I should introduce you to jenkins job builder and zuul configuration :-] [23:17:00] <^demon> Nooooo. [23:17:07] grad school is overrated ;) [23:17:10] <^demon> I don't wanna play with zuul. That's your toy ;-) [23:17:14] 03(mod) Creating Claim with Snak using wikibase-item type needs validation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43004 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:17:22] ^demon: I don't wanna play with it anymore :-] [23:17:33] New review: Mwalker; "Siebrand checked this -- but since we don't have the auto verification scripts enabled on this repo ..." [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 2 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42147 [23:17:34] <^demon> So you're trying to pass it off on me? Nice :p [23:17:34] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42147 [23:17:41] more seriously, too many things are only relying on me. I need to scale out / train other people. [23:18:03] siebrand suggested me to record a serie of screencasts to introduce people to JJB / Zuul. [23:18:20] Where do i find the commands to embed video in USING THE EMBEDvideo extension [23:18:23] i installed it [23:18:32] * MatmaRex sheepishly suggests another jenkins whitelisting... https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42574/ [23:18:59] RoanKattouw: well, if you have any time, pls review, if not, its ok, will continue pestering anomie. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/41198/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42398/ are the two that seem ready [23:19:19] MatmaRex: -1 :) [23:19:21] he found some good bugs in my smart continue implementation [23:19:34] (or is it easy continue?) the name keeps changing [23:19:54] matmarex i just installed embedvideo where can i find the list of codes i need to use to embed the video into posts its not in the readme [23:19:59] I'll leave it to Anomie, he rocks. I'm glad we hired him [23:20:00] 03(NEW) Add new param to image syntax to prevent returning of srcset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43750 enhancement; MediaWiki: Parser; () [23:20:09] 03(mod) Default documentation for special properties? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23691 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [23:20:21] * MatmaRex slaps saper around a bit with a large trout [23:20:22] off. See you later [23:20:38] New patchset: Mwalker; "Added message group states" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26769 [23:20:44] RoanKattouw: no worries. if you want some light reading, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_Future -- that's how i plan to do versioning and other api improv stuff [23:20:46] Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26769 [23:20:51] 03(mod) Default documentation for special properties? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23692 (10[[kgh]]) [23:21:10] someone [23:21:11] please [23:21:11] how is the editor progressing? [23:21:22] HelpPLox: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo ? [23:21:31] yurik_: Have you talked to Federico at Wikia? He's also working on API versioning and stuff [23:21:37] ya where is the commands that tell you what to type to embed a video [23:21:45] HelpPLox: there is some info on that page [23:21:45] once its installed [23:21:47] i dont see it [23:21:54] you don't see what? [23:22:15] IRC [23:22:21] D: [23:22:25] <^demon> I was about to say you could check Special:Version to see what tags are registered. [23:22:30] <^demon> But hey, ragequitting works too. [23:22:36] who is that guy, even [23:22:42] 03(mod) No history for upload campaigns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30645 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:22:43] ^demon: it looks more like an irc fail [23:22:49] he was sitting here for quite some time [23:22:58] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on plwiki for 3 more namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43617 (10Leinad) [23:23:01] <^demon> He was asking something this morning that I can't remember. [23:23:03] asking question and, surprisingly :P, getting answers [23:23:06] <^demon> $someUser. [23:23:08] questions* [23:23:12] 03(NEW) Installer refuses to use databases with "+" in it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43751 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; () [23:23:22] <^demon> I answered his question this morning and I got it right. [23:23:25] MatmaRex: you really *do* want this -1 :) don't you [23:23:27] <^demon> !^demon [23:23:27] Demon is a champ, everybody knows that. [23:23:27] alright. i think it's time for me to get some sleep [23:23:36] <^demon> ^ That was the result, that's all I remember [23:23:36] 03(mod) Give ad-hoc email notification for thread move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37583 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [23:23:42] saper: <3 [23:23:44] ^demon: lol [23:24:02] 03(mod) SemanticMaps: Altitude - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32698 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:24:11] RoanKattouw: haven't spoken with him - do you have his contact? [23:24:26] 03(mod) "Enroll" tab is easily overlooked; an enroll button in the "Students" section would be helpful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39314 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:25:03] Lemme find it [23:25:09] 03(mod) [SM] search by property on coordinates produce no results because SM converts the coordinate format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34277 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:25:38] yurik_: Oh looks like the two of you are already engaging on wikitech-l [23:25:53] Ahm, api list I mean [23:26:00] [Mediawiki-api] APIv2 alpha implementation [23:26:28] 03(mod) course pages should support communication between students and volunteers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39316 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:27:04] RoanKattouw: oh yeah, didn't pay attention to the name [23:27:32] 03(mod) PHPlot to replace Ploticus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30016 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:28:09] 03(mod) SMW 1.9: Display cache information in SMW_ConceptPage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34477 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:28:45] 03(mod) Using page titles as redirects in gallery format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43161 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:29:20] 03(mod) PHP Strict Standards: Static function 'singleton' should not be abstract - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42268 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:30:25] 03(mod) Can attempt to signup to a contest with no challenges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31806 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:32:00] 03(mod) Institution with current course listed as "Inactive" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40433 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:32:12] New review: Tychay; "I see no reason not to allow this in since it falls back to the default mode if the global is set or..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37515 [23:32:14] Change merged: Tychay; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37515 [23:33:20] 03(mod) outline format ignores 'intro' and 'outro' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40790 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:34:51] 03(mod) Term pulldown is not available while adding a new course - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40434 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:36:09] 03(mod) Editor works weirdly for 1.18 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41728 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:38:45] 03(mod) Clicking "Disenroll" on course page produces error: "There is no course with name ..." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41523 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:39:42] New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 23343) Apply GlobalBlocking to XFF IPs" [mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42884 [23:40:11] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42122 [23:43:39] 03(mod) Allow blocking open proxies based on X-Forwarded-For header (XFF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23343 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [23:47:29] New review: Tychay; "When you move this to an extension, add me, lwelling and ori for that." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27981 [23:53:38] 03(mod) Creating Claim with Snak using wikibase-item type needs validation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43004 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:54:10] New patchset: Mwalker; "CN/TrEx 3 -- Message Group Review & CN Namespace" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/26502 [23:57:32] Heya... I am looking for a way to redirect users directly to Special:UserLogin instead of displaying the error page "you must be logged in".