[00:01:02] Hello_: Hi! What's up? [00:01:46] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 44123) (bug 43642) Add okay button and end tour checkbox." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44752 [00:01:49] Hello_: Are you trying to get infoboxes on your wiki? [00:03:36] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch set 4 adds an option not to render the end tour checkbox." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44752 [00:03:46] what u mean "get infoboxes on your wiki?" [00:04:05] 03(mod) Translate extension should warn users when they change translation IDs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44329 +comment (10Nemo) [00:04:22] mark? [00:04:28] hello? [00:04:39] Hello_: I mean, are you trying to make your wiki have the cool boxes that Wikipedia often does? [00:04:48] yes [00:05:01] so i am trying to tell in ko admin [00:05:11] now, in ko wiki [00:05:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Context menu appears in the wrong place in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41233 +comment (10rmoen) [00:05:44] .infobox th { [00:05:45] white-space: nowrap; [00:05:47] background-color: #eee; [00:05:48] !infobox [00:05:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [00:05:49] } [00:05:50] 03(mod) fatal crash when you click on mobile view in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44068 +comment (10Jon) [00:05:50] i hate this [00:05:54] why they [00:06:13] Hm. I thought wm-bot had a more complicated message for that. [00:06:28] mark [00:06:40] i already fix like en wiki [00:06:47] https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%8B%80:%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4%EC%83%81%EC%9E%90 [00:06:54] New review: Matmarex; "A heads-up: this will conflict with change Ib316764a." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45651 [00:06:56] New review: Matmarex; "A heads-up: this will conflict with change Ie6670880." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45294 [00:07:09] this is the same but plus ko parameter [00:07:25] both ko parameter and en parameter [00:07:46] Hm. I'm not sure I understand. [00:07:54] i mean [00:08:08] you looks [00:08:08] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Restyle using Munaf Assaf's CSS and add GuidedTour steps/tour." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [00:08:35] http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%9D%B4%ED%98%95%EC%A3%BC/%ED%8B%80:%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B2%8C%EC%9D%B4%EB%A8%B8_%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4 [00:08:41] and [00:08:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Pro_Gaming_player [00:08:47] looks so different [00:08:53] isn't it? [00:09:09] Not immensely, no [00:09:21] color is differnet [00:09:24] different [00:09:25] The font and colours are different, but that's fixable [00:09:31] yes [00:09:35] im saying [00:09:36] that [00:09:41] how can i fix it? [00:09:50] korean wiki [00:09:52] they [00:10:09] treat like [00:10:09] base on grey color [00:10:28] http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%AF%B8%EB%94%94%EC%96%B4%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4:Common.css [00:10:30] look [00:10:54] Hello_: You can probably put the colour you want directly into the template, in a style attribute on the table [00:11:05] um [00:11:08] i mean [00:11:11] i want fix it [00:11:21] without using my common.css [00:11:26] fix main common.css [00:11:34] i want fix main common.css [00:11:38] just like english ver [00:11:50] im just testing in my common.css [00:12:01] and [00:12:06] i don't like [00:12:20] in ko wiki background-color: #eee; [00:12:37] http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%AF%B8%EB%94%94%EC%96%B4%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4:Common.css [00:12:39] look [00:13:22] So change that to whatever colour you want it to be :) [00:14:03] but [00:14:04] um [00:14:23] i want it [00:14:28] login or logout [00:14:30] whenenver [00:14:47] fix the basis [00:14:52] uh [00:15:04] can i give you example? [00:15:10] I understand, I think. [00:16:27] Hello_: And you said that Common.css won't change this for you? [00:16:37] yes [00:17:18] i fix temporarily [00:17:22] like .infobox th { [00:17:24] white-space: nowrap; [00:17:26] background-color: #f9f9f9; [00:17:27] } [00:17:28] .infobox th[colspan="2"] { [00:17:30] text-align: center; [00:17:32] } [00:17:34] !pastebin | Hello_ [00:17:34] Hello_: Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. When sharing multiple lines of code, please use a pastebin such as or and post a link to your paste in the channel. [00:17:44] yes [00:17:59] Hello_: But then that doesn't stick for some reason? [00:18:09] http://dpaste.com/890457/ [00:18:24] its temporarily fixed [00:18:42] How temporarily? [00:19:08] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Fix incorrect comment and unnecessary variable." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45693 [00:19:19] fixed except {{{name}}} section on the https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%9D%B4%ED%98%95%EC%A3%BC/%ED%8B%80:%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B2%8C%EC%9D%B4%EB%A8%B8_%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4 [00:19:53] Hello_: Maybe that section has a style set on it that overrides the common.css rule? [00:20:22] its not same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Pro_Gaming_player [00:20:44] I know, that's what I'm saying [00:20:56] Hello_: Common.css on kowiki hasn't changed since December 21st [00:21:07] yes [00:21:17] they fixed like en [00:21:20] but bugs [00:21:25] on some template [00:21:29] so they roll back [00:23:01] Hello->Eric Lee [00:24:25] New patchset: Luis Felipe Schenone; "Changed the word "edit" for "action", to make the message more accurate." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45694 [00:25:52] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Restyle using Munaf Assaf's CSS and add GuidedTour steps/tour." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [00:27:52] New patchset: Luis Felipe Schenone; "(bug 43933) Made a message more accourate by changing the word "edit" for "action"." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45694 [00:29:20] New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 43529) Script to delete private data" [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45696 [00:29:22] 03(mod) Database runs amok after using Special:Import - Apache and MySQL use full CPU - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44106 +comment (10dasch) [00:30:14] 03(mod) Make clear that Special:ActiveUsers count also log entries (except newusers log) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43933 +comment (10schenonef) [00:33:21] uh [00:35:50] 03(NEW) Login on https doesn't log you in on http - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44330 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:37:34] New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 43529) Hide private data after election" [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45697 [00:45:59] 03(mod) assert all ResourceLoader modules loaded in all browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299 +comment (10krinklemail) [00:48:19] 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299 +easy (10Krinkle) [00:48:33] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch set 8 is a rebase." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [00:49:19] 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299 +comment (10krinklemail) [00:50:07] Hey, I'm trying to make a wiki on a linux webserver. But I'm having issues with the creating a database part. [00:50:40] I've got it untar'd. [00:50:57] Smrtz_: i would recommend installing the database from a distribution package [00:51:13] I don't have root access, it's my schools server. [00:51:33] ah, but you have a running database and access to that? [00:52:04] otherwise you may have to ask root to give you a database user [00:52:39] 03(mod) Search with [some] accented letters fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42234 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [00:52:55] no, not at all, I'm really just here because I'll need help in the future, I guess I'm just introducing myself. haha [00:53:02] welcome:) [00:53:34] ask the server admin to give you a database and user/pass for it [00:53:53] mutante: [00:54:00] help me [00:54:03] !ask [00:54:03] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [00:54:06] https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%9D%B4%ED%98%95%EC%A3%BC/%ED%8B%80:%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B2%8C%EC%9D%B4%EB%A8%B8_%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4 [00:54:11] doing that now, thanks mutante [00:54:11] its not same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Pro_Gaming_player [00:54:35] so i have to tell admin [00:54:42] that fix [00:54:54] first, im ko wiki user [00:54:54] New review: CSteipp; "Working in test for me, with both the included CA cert, and with the CA certs set to '' (using Ubunt..." [mediawiki/extensions/TorBlock] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40294 [00:54:54] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/TorBlock] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40294 [00:54:55] Eric_Lee: it's in another language. [00:55:00] i know [00:55:02] but [00:55:04] Eric_Lee: what makes you think it should be the same? are you trying to copy a template from en.wp to ko.wp? [00:55:12] nop [00:55:14] yes [00:55:16] but [00:55:17] wait [00:55:28] i am not a wiki admin though [00:55:31] mediawiki.common.css [00:55:34] just a shell admin [00:55:35] i want fix [00:55:47] admin dosen't know how to fix [00:55:48] i think [00:56:10] just [00:56:12] eg [00:56:19] http://dpaste.com/890457/ [00:56:21] look [00:56:44] ko wiki treat like this [00:56:49] New review: Wikinaut; "I deployed your patch to the openid-wiki. When trying to login with my Google-OpenID, Google OpenID ..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45554 [00:56:55] does "사용자" mean Template in Korean? [00:56:59] Eric_Lee: [00:57:01] nop [00:57:19] 틀 means Template in ko wikipedia [00:57:32] im just testing before [00:57:46] introduction [00:57:48] eh, i am so not an expert on templates :p [00:57:57] New review: Spage; "Good, continues to work locally." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45693 [00:58:00] it's related [00:58:04] but main problem is [00:58:06] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45693 [00:58:06] mediawiki [00:58:12] http://dpaste.com/890457/ [00:58:24] it treat grey [00:58:27] look [00:58:34] difference [00:58:53] https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%9D%B4%ED%98%95%EC%A3%BC/%ED%8B%80:%ED%94%84%EB%A1%9C%EA%B2%8C%EC%9D%B4%EB%A8%B8_%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4 [00:58:59] in English is [00:59:12] User:이형주/Template:~ [00:59:31] 03(mod) Return error rather than "zero results" when search fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43544 +comment (10ram) [00:59:44] i am not sure i understand what the problem in Mediawiki is, Eric_Lee [01:00:08] do you think this is a bug in the software itself? [01:00:15] no [01:00:17] i mean [01:00:45] if i copy en mediawiki:common.css in my mediawiki [01:00:58] why it doesn't look same? [01:01:19] New review: Wikinaut; "the message stems from your previous patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45474/2 which breaks i..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45554 [01:01:45] New review: Wikinaut; "breaks it. Do not submit." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45474 [01:02:04] 03(NEW) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [01:02:40] Eric_Lee: MediaWiki:Common.css is different on en.wp vs. ko.wp [01:02:48] i know [01:02:56] do you need an ko.wp admin to change it? [01:03:00] so im telling the [01:03:04] yes [01:03:06] but [01:03:08] they say [01:03:18] some templates broken [01:03:30] when we fix [01:03:32] so [01:03:36] Eric_Lee: #wikipedia-ko just has 1 user, but i see they are referring to this irc.hanirc.org/#wikipedia [01:03:38] they roll back [01:03:41] it might have more users there who can help [01:04:10] thanks [01:04:12] but [01:04:19] New review: CSteipp; "Merging this despite the naming conflicts. Names will be fixed in I466e1da3." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35807 [01:04:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44425 [01:04:19] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35807 [01:04:21] im not sure that [01:04:32] Eric_Lee: yea,uhm,i can't help you with that, sorry, i don't have the permissions and if i would i would still have to ask to get community consensus first [01:04:48] you can try a mailing list for ko.wp [01:05:11] Eric_Lee: try asking it here https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiko-l [01:05:41] thanks! [01:05:46] np [01:07:21] New patchset: Ryan Lane; "Move configuration into a function + small fixes" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45701 [01:13:21] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Fix. PEP-8 compliance. Replaced optparse with argparse." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45702 [01:14:27] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45702 [01:17:45] New patchset: preilly; "Conform to PEP 8" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45703 [01:18:21] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45703 [01:20:47] New patchset: Ryan Lane; "Move configuration into a function + small fixes" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45701 [01:21:08] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45701 [01:21:42] New patchset: GWicke; "Test improperly quoted attribute values in HTML tags and table cells" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45704 [01:22:12] 03(NEW) create component for planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44332 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [01:24:00] New patchset: preilly; "Conform to PEP 8" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45705 [01:24:12] 03(mod) create component for planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44332 (10Daniel Zahn) [01:24:31] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45705 [01:27:11] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Fix. Missing after 3rd element in ." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45706 [01:27:50] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45706 [01:33:46] New patchset: Kaldari; "Allow the retrieval of the plural rule type for a given number" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45708 [01:39:05] New patchset: Kaldari; "Allow the retrieval of the plural rule type for a given number" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45708 [01:40:36] New patchset: Mwjames; "Add QUnit support" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45709 [01:44:12] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45709 [01:44:55] New patchset: Ryan Lane; "PEP8 fixes" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45711 [01:44:59] preilly: ^^ [01:45:12] ah. there's a non-pep8 fix in there [01:46:03] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45711 [01:51:02] Change abandoned: Pgehres; "Somehow this didn't rebase and got included and merged in a later commit" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36333 [02:06:15] 03(mod) https://planet.wikimedia.org goes to civiCRM instance. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39678 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [02:06:20] New patchset: preilly; "Add a setup script" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45712 [02:06:37] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45712 [02:07:29] wikibugs: [02:07:37] 03(mod) [Planet] Unicode author names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39724 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [02:07:45] wikibugs: thanks [02:09:05] New patchset: preilly; "Add license" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45713 [02:09:26] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45713 [02:11:04] New patchset: preilly; "move setup file" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45714 [02:11:25] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45714 [02:11:34] 03(mod) Blog feed displaying only summary with improper links on en.planet.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38446 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [02:12:10] New review: Adamw; "Very cool-- a mini-mediawiki :P. I gave it a cursory look and nothing jumps out, it's mostly a good..." [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45665 [02:12:24] 03(mod) [Planet] Link to post in feeds is missing, makes aggregator load the planet instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38837 +comment (10dzahn) [02:22:29] 03(mod) Coalesce change events before injecting them into the recentchanges table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42189 summary (10Aude) [02:23:36] New patchset: CSteipp; "By default, keep users in HTTPS with wgSecureLogin" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [02:42:54] 03(mod) wikidata allows users to build duplicate item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44119 +comment (10sam) [02:45:36] New patchset: Dsc; "Updates packaging. Note the source file should move to the root, or become __init__.py" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45716 [02:45:41] 03(mod) wikidata allows users to build duplicate item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44119 (10Jasper Deng) [02:46:40] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45716 [02:47:03] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Add. Abort functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45717 [02:53:24] New patchset: preilly; "Add empty init" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45718 [02:53:38] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45718 [02:53:39] 03(NEW) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 normal; MediaWiki extensions: E3 Experiments; () [02:58:06] New patchset: Ryan Lane; "Add resync and refactor sync" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45719 [02:58:09] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 (10MZMcBride) [03:03:21] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 (10Legoktm) [03:04:06] New patchset: preilly; "Conform to PEP 8" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45720 [03:05:02] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45720 [03:06:16] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [03:11:03] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 (10MZMcBride) [03:13:44] 03(mod) [accountability/transparency] Set up web interface for "customers" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44146 +comment (10rjd0060.wiki) [03:13:52] New patchset: preilly; "Add. Abort functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45717 [03:14:15] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45717 [03:16:59] 03(mod) [accountability/transparency] Set up web interface for "customers" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44146 (10MZMcBride) [03:17:40] New patchset: Lalei; "(bug 14230) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [03:18:18] New patchset: preilly; "Add resync and refactor sync" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45719 [03:18:41] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45719 [03:23:27] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 +comment (10jayvdb) [03:31:02] hi guy! i have a quick question for gerrit. are there any way I can comment back to some comments on Patch Set? [03:31:38] Inline or block-level? [03:34:13] Susan: block level. [03:34:34] You can just click the "Review" button to leave a comment. [03:35:56] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 +comment (10Steven Walling) [03:37:54] Susan: got it! thanks :) [03:43:32] New review: Lalei; "As far as I implemented, to work with E3Experiments, there is one place needs to be changed on E3Exp..." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [03:51:02] 03(mod) Task generation from categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44278 (10Steven Walling) [04:02:54] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation to the latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 (10Casey Brown) [04:25:43] Hi folks. I'm trying to run a mirror of spanish wikipedia. I've got the database imported and the mediawiki set up, but when I got the main page it redirects me with a 301 to en.wikipedia.org. I can't figure out where this redirect is configured. Any help appreciated. [04:28:24] dock_: Sounds like a Web server issue. [04:28:28] You're using Apache? [04:29:12] Yeah, apache. [04:29:33] that seems to be a very common issue with those running the imports [04:30:47] Is it? I've never heard of it. [04:30:51] dock_: Is your site public? [04:31:02] dock_: Does it only happen with a certain URL? [04:31:48] Susan: people come in here every so often about it [04:32:48] I'm behind a NAT. I have the mediawiki-1.20.2/ renamed to /var/www/eswiki and configured. When I go to http://localhost/eswiki, bam, 301 redirect with a Location: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada (which I belive is the top level default ES page) [04:35:35] My LocalSettings.php: http://dpaste.org/Xe6dB/ [04:37:20] I doubt that its it, but: $wgLanguageCode = "en"; [04:37:45] Yeah, I just noticed that and changed it to "es" but no difference. [04:38:49] is the db the only thing you have running from the wmf side of things? [04:38:59] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Bump META_REV_ID to 5121646" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45721 [04:39:19] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45721 [04:40:26] snake: Not sure what you mean exactly. mysql/apache and a number of other services on an Ubuntu 12.04 linux box (although I'm not using the mediawiki from the repos) [04:51:00] Does mediawiki log somewhere? I'm not seeing anything helpful in the apache logs. [04:51:47] You can enable debugging. [04:51:49] !debug [04:51:50] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [04:52:22] dock_: What happens when you go to http://localhost/eswiki/Main_Page ? [04:52:31] Or /eswiki/Portada ? [04:52:33] Does it redirect? [04:52:53] You should check your Apache config and any .htaccess files. [04:57:29] test [04:58:45] It still redirects to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada [04:59:21] 03(mod) Thumbnails fail: "timeout" not installed, required in ulimit5.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44044 (10Aaron Schulz) [05:02:16] The problem server can be accessed at http://home.braddock.com:28105/eswiki [05:06:43] But this works: http://localhost/eswiki/index.php/Portada [05:06:46] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Catch parse failures in LogParser.parse()" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45722 [05:07:23] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45722 [05:07:38] So perhaps it is only effecting the main page. [05:11:01] http://home.braddock.com:28105/eswiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [05:11:12] That page contains "#REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Portada]]". [05:11:24] No idea why it's going to en.wikipedia.org, though. [05:11:31] affecting * [05:12:15] Oh, yes I do. [05:12:19] wikipedia: an interwiki prefix. [05:12:25] is an * [05:12:31] For the English Wikipedia. [05:13:24] There we go. [05:13:27] dock_: ^^^^^ [05:14:07] http://home.braddock.com:28105/eswiki/index.php?title=wikipedia:Hello [05:15:29] So the fix is configure "wikipedia" interwiki links to point back to my local host? [05:16:43] Or configure Wikipedia: to be a namespace. [05:16:51] $wgMetaNamespace = "Eswiki"; [05:17:05] If you set that to "Wikipedia" in your LocalSettings.php, that would presumably fix the problem. [05:18:49] That works. great! [05:20:14] :-) [05:21:07] Now I just need ParserFunctions, Cite, and god knows how many other extensions. Is there any easy way to tell which extensions a page requires? [05:22:09] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 +comment (10mflaschen) [05:23:20] 03(NEW) Distinguish somehow between preview and diff on action=submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44334 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [05:23:20] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2114 (10Danny B.) [05:31:02] New review: Mattflaschen; "Looks good, except for some minor issues. I like the way you're using index to pass only the requir..." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [05:37:18] New patchset: Lalei; "(bug 14230) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [05:47:44] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 (10spage) [05:48:20] New patchset: Santhosh; "Ajaxify the group selection and language selection" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45316 [06:09:18] how would this happen that when i use url:localhost/mediawiki to access mw the request always goes to en.wikipedia.org, but when i use url:localhost/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page, it works fine? [06:10:26] cusion: Maybe a bad hosts file? [06:12:22] Matthew_:could it be more detailed? [06:13:20] cusion: Not really... hmmm... at the very least, it sounds like a configuration problem on your end. I would recommend checking ".htaccess" and other pages to see if something is set up to redirect. [06:13:21] Matthew_: i installed mw on ubuntu [06:13:29] Fresh install? [06:13:39] the version is 1.20.2 [06:13:41] nope [06:14:12] i imported wikipedia data dumps using mwdumper [06:14:42] Hmmm.. I don't know, then, maybe you should check your LocalSettings.php and .htaccess, because it sounds like a setting on your end. [06:15:30] * yurik made it to SF! WMF office tomorrow, stop by to say hi [06:16:46] yurik: Woohoo, fun stuff :) [06:16:59] uhh, BTW, after i ran into this problem, i installed another mw using the same db, the newly installed mw still got this problem [06:17:36] Matthew_: i thought it might have something to do with datas in the db, how do you find? [06:18:18] 03(mod) Special:StudentActivity gives internal error: "Fatal exception of type MWException" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43786 (10Philosopher) [06:19:18] cusion: I'm not sure, to be honest. Why don't you wait for a more experienced developer to show up? [06:20:02] hmm, thank you [06:27:51] cusion: are you the same person as dock_? [06:28:00] nope [06:28:17] TimStarling: why do you ask? [06:28:45] because he was just asking the same question [06:29:09] it's probably just some javascript in MediaWiki:Common.js intended to defeat remote loaders [06:29:15] TimStarling: so is his problem solved? [06:30:14] TimStarling: I set my chrome to disable all js, but it still happens [06:31:59] [05:11] http://home.braddock.com:28105/eswiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [06:32:00] [05:11] That page contains "#REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Portada]]". [06:32:22] and there was an interwiki link configured from Wikipedia:Portada to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada [06:33:24] Heh, two in one night? [06:33:42] The solution was really just to set $wgMetaNamespace to "Wikipedia". [06:34:45] New review: Spage; "I can't reproduce bug 44091 locally in Firefox or Chromium -- I don't see the tooltips that far away..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45671 [06:36:02] maybe there's a forking convention on at the moment [06:36:34] and one of the speakers said how much fun it is to fork wikipedia [06:36:59] someone check the traffic graph out of dumps.wikimedia.org [06:37:33] TimStarling: where does Common.js locate? or should you wrongly spell it? [06:40:33] cusion: no, set $wgMetaNamespace [06:40:39] ask Susan if you need more help [06:40:55] All right [06:41:09] cusion: Do you have access to the server files? [06:41:15] If so, there's one called LocalSettings.php. [06:41:22] Susan: yeah [06:41:25] In that file, there's a line that contains the strict "$wgMetaNamespace". [06:41:30] Paste that line in here, please. [06:41:40] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use a single data attribute message for the message items" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45723 [06:42:28] Susan: there is no such variable [06:43:32] cusion: Okay, so then paste this line into LocalSettings.php... [06:43:47] $wgMetaNamespace = "Wikipedia"; [06:43:51] Somewhere near the bottom of the file. [06:43:56] See if that resolves your issue. [06:45:14] Susan:yeah, exactly, where can i find the specification about this phenomena? [06:46:53] Susan: cause i want to know more about the workflow of mw [06:46:59] cusion: I don't think there is a specification. [06:47:05] I can explain it for you if you'd like. [06:47:27] Susan: i appreciate it [06:47:56] Basically MediaWiki has interwiki prefixes. Such as "meatball" or "wikipedia". These allow for easier linking between wikis. For example, "[[meatball:GoodBye]]" would be an interwiki link to . It's a way of wikis being more interconnected. [06:48:17] 03(NEW) Botadmin user group in ml.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44335 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [06:48:26] There are also namespaces in MediaWiki. These are high-level content separators such as User: or Talk: or Category: or Wikipedia:. [06:48:33] "Wikipedia:" being a project namespace. [06:48:40] 03(mod) Botadmin user group in ml.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44335 (10sunil) [06:48:42] So you end up with two overlapping prefixes. [06:48:51] One for namespace name, and one for the interwiki prefix. [06:49:09] The default "wikipedia" interwiki prefix goes to en.wikipedia.org for historical reasons. [06:49:30] You pulled in a Wikipedia dump where the project namespace was "Wikipedia:", I guess? [06:49:52] New review: Mattflaschen; "Once we decide on the edge cases from https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44123, we shoul..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44752 [06:50:09] New review: Mattflaschen; "Fair enough. It seems to be a race condition (sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't), and it cou..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45671 [06:50:19] And because you hadn't configured your wiki to recognize that namespace, it interpreted #REDIRECT [[wikipedia:foo]] as an interwiki link rather than a namespace name. [06:50:45] So when you set $wgMetaNamespace to "Wikipedia", the problem resolved itself. [06:50:46] I guess. [06:50:52] It's quite unusual for this to happen twice in one evening. [07:01:54] New patchset: Mwalker; "VarBinary is Moar Efficient than Text" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45724 [07:04:34] New patchset: Santhosh; "Ajaxify the group selection and language selection" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45316 [07:05:35] Susan: i am cusion and i got network crashed just now, i want to record down what you said a moment ago, would you mind explaining it twice? thank you very much... [07:14:15] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Don't show tour outside main namespace." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45725 [07:22:51] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add method to set tour cookie from tour name and optional step." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45726 [07:24:00] New review: Mattflaschen; "This will be used to send people from Special:GettingStarted (including just-signed-up) to a tour, u..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45726 [07:25:31] 03(mod) parser function to detect if the current page is in a given category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18596 +comment (10Nemo) [07:25:32] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10Nemo) [07:28:22] New review: Spage; "I'm still bothered by the unnecessary extra params to gettingstartedpage.js, but it works for me wit..." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [07:28:33] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [07:30:50] New patchset: Santhosh; "Pass the current state of message to update the statsbar correctly" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45727 [07:31:23] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Set gettingstarted tour cookie when they click an article." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45728 [07:35:08] New review: Mattflaschen; "This should be approved after https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45726/" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45728 [07:35:27] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45727 [07:35:28] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45723 [07:35:41] New review: Siebrand; "Per Niklas." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45523 [07:36:04] 03(mod) Accesskey (p) for preview on edit doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43520 major->normal; +testme; +comment (10Nemo) [07:36:47] Change merged: Mattflaschen; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45725 [07:37:49] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[Wikibase] Add new key to ignore per I5b9d9d37" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45729 [07:38:06] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45729 [07:43:59] New patchset: Amire80; "Ajaxify the group selection and language selection" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45316 [07:44:58] som admin here? [07:45:48] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45316 [08:09:36] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44967 [08:13:57] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Followup I883f6f44: Use XHTML compliant line break" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45730 [08:14:06] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45730 [08:17:45] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add method to set tour cookie from tour name and optional step." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45726 [08:18:14] 03(mod) Translate extension should warn users when they change translation IDs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44329 (10Beta16) [08:18:45] New patchset: Santhosh; "Change the save button label as per nature of translation" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45523 [08:18:46] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use correct classes for optional, fuzzy, translated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45522 [08:18:55] New review: Nikerabbit; "For example Translate is overriding the titles of translatable pages via this property." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44766 [08:18:56] New review: Raimond Spekking; "i18n review" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43982 [08:21:43] New review: Siebrand; "Thanks for the fix." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45694 [08:24:20] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45694 [08:33:11] 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299 (10Željko Filipin) [08:34:15] 03(mod) wikidata allows users to build duplicate item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44119 (10jeblad) [08:37:47] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Fix i18n issues on GettingStarted page tour." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45731 [08:40:07] New review: Foxtrott; "I would -2 this if I still could. :P" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45325 [08:42:30] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use correct classes for optional, fuzzy, translated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45522 [08:51:42] New patchset: Santhosh; "Change the URLs as per the group and language change" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45319 [08:52:40] 03(mod) [Planet] Link to post in feeds is missing, makes aggregator load the planet instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38837 +comment (10federicoleva) [08:54:31] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Follow up I32ecdd8c: Fix PHP syntax error" [mediawiki/extensions/Polyglot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45732 [08:54:41] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/Polyglot] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45732 [09:03:58] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to SpecialTranslate::getGroupDescription() must implement interface MessageGroup, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44162 +comment (10Lockal) [09:05:57] 03(mod) Fuzzied sections create line breaks in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44328 +comment (10Beta16) [09:13:59] New patchset: Nischayn22; "(bug 42454) Show "add more files from flickr"" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45733 [09:15:23] 03(mod) UW Flickr - Add another file assumes local upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42454 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [09:19:20] New review: Nischayn22; "Please rebase this" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39035 [09:31:17] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 +comment (10aklapper) [09:32:23] New patchset: Siebrand; "Reformatted to satisfy PHP_CodeSniffer" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45165 [09:33:18] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add script for multiplexing multiple subscribers" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45734 [09:44:41] 03(mod) create component for planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44332 (10Andre Klapper) [09:55:06] 03(mod) Blog feed displaying only summary with improper links on en.planet.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38446 (10Andre Klapper) [09:55:08] 03(mod) [Planet] Link to post in feeds is missing, makes aggregator load the planet instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38837 (10Andre Klapper) [09:55:14] 03(mod) HTML escaping on the planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39725 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:55:24] 03(mod) create component for planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44332 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:58:12] *sigh* I wish css3-flexbox was better supported. [10:01:09] 03(NEW) Wrong error message when uploading Invalid Flickr set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44336 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [10:01:16] 03(mod) Is the OTRS API active and can it be used? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28976 +comment (10aklapper) [10:01:28] 03(mod) Distinguish somehow between preview and diff on action=submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44334 (10Andre Klapper) [10:01:44] 03(mod) Botadmin user group in ml.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44335 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Andre Klapper) [10:01:48] 03(mod) Restricted content sets on Flickr not uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43593 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [10:02:47] 03(mod) Wrong error message when uploading Invalid Flickr set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44336 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [10:02:56] 03(mod) Make clear that Special:ActiveUsers count also log entries (except newusers log) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43933 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [10:04:47] 03(mod) Anonymous users have identifying cookies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 (10Andre Klapper) [10:05:08] 03(mod) Wrong error message when uploading Invalid Flickr set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44336 (10Jean-Fred) [10:05:16] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43450 (10Jean-Fred) [10:05:36] 03(mod) Blog feed displaying only summary with improper links on en.planet.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38446 +comment (10nischayn22) [10:05:45] 03(mod) tel: protocol should be enabled in $wgUrlProtocols for Wikivoyage sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44315 (10Andre Klapper) [10:06:46] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44060 [10:09:08] 03(mod) All EXIF values with points are converted to commas for some languages, even for Version info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44324 normal->minor; summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:10:04] 03(mod) Restricted content sets on Flickr not uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43593 +comment (10Nemo) [10:11:47] 03(mod) HTML escaping on the planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39725 +comment (10Nemo) [10:12:01] New patchset: Liangent; "Fix self link issues about titles in different or mixed variants" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45735 [10:13:35] hy [10:14:51] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:15:35] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Make it easy to run tests using PhantomJS" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45736 [10:15:35] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Do not run tests that have known bugs in PhantomJS" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45737 [10:15:35] New patchset: Zfilipin; "PhantomJS gets the same edit page as IE6" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45738 [10:15:38] New review: Siebrand; "i18n/L10n reviewed." [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45733 [10:15:39] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10aklapper) [10:15:59] 03(mod) Wrong error message when uploading Invalid Flickr set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44336 +comment (10russavia.wikipedia) [10:17:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45731 [10:17:52] New review: Liangent; "I doubt there'll be some performance issue but I can't find a better way to do this (to pass that ne..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45735 [10:20:30] New review: Siebrand; "Okay with the feature. Needs PHPUnit tests." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45708 [10:20:36] 03(NEW) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [10:21:20] 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [10:29:27] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Update RubyGems to version 1.8.25" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45739 [10:43:52] New review: Siebrand; "Replied to question and -1 per Niklas." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45499 [10:45:24] New review: Siebrand; "Inline question to Nikerabbit." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45499 [10:52:12] 03(mod) newmessageslinkplural and newmessagesdifflinkplural shouldn't use fake values for the number of changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42497 (10Andre Klapper) [10:52:56] 03(mod) Internal links used on summary should be actual links on RSS feeds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44317 (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:17] 03(mod) Make Special:Unwatchedpages functional - currently only showing first 1000 pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44321 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:29] 03(mod) Clean Page and Index namespaces configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44320 (10Andre Klapper) [10:55:12] New review: Siebrand; "Problem with the qqq docs." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [10:55:19] 03(mod) HTML escaping on the planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39725 (10Andre Klapper) [10:56:01] andre__: poke [10:56:15] aude, pong [10:56:32] 03(mod) Blog feed displaying only summary with improper links on en.planet.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38446 (10Andre Klapper) [10:56:54] New review: Siebrand; "Doesn't rebase to master cleanly." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44956 [10:57:17] 03(NEW) Site internal id is not loaded in sites stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44338 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [10:57:39] andre__: for mediawiki core, it would be great to have a new component for the sites stuff [10:57:48] e.g. for the last bug ^ [10:57:54] * aude put it in general [10:58:03] aude: please file a request in bugzilla against Wikimedia > Bugzilla [10:58:04] 03(mod) Site internal id is not loaded in sites stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44338 (10Aude) [10:58:17] 03(mod) Site internal id is not loaded in sites stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44338 (10Aude) [10:58:22] aude, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Project_Maintainers#To_add_a_project_or_component [10:58:27] andre__: ok [10:58:44] thanks [10:59:49] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44338) set the site internal id when loading sites from the db" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [11:00:44] 03(mod) Site internal id is not loaded in sites stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44338 +comment (10aude.wiki) [11:02:08] New review: Siebrand; "Looks mostly okay. Trailing ws pointed out inline." [mediawiki/extensions/cldr] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45077 [11:02:57] New review: Siebrand; "Same as on ps1" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44752 [11:03:29] hy [11:03:53] i have a question about the installation of mediawiki [11:04:24] New review: Siebrand; "i18n/L10n looks fine to me. Same as on PS3." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [11:05:21] New review: Aude; "we might want to bump the SERIAL_VERSION_ID since the data in memcached is invalid and needs to be r..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [11:05:30] New review: Siebrand; "i18n/L10n reviewed." [mediawiki/extensions/Disambiguator] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44273 [11:06:47] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 41478) Implement Language::isWellFormedLanguageTag()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44956 [11:07:12] New review: Tobias Gritschacher; "This works for me and solves the problem with the languagelinks not showing up in WikibaseClient." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [11:07:12] New review: Daniel Kinzler; "I don't think we need to bump SERIAL_VERSION_ID every time we break the cache on our local dev insta..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [11:07:52] 03(NEW) Add core component for sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44339 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [11:08:11] can someone tell me how to run a sql-query on the toolserver? [11:08:21] i can acces to my mediawiki on my server only by my conputeur, where i have finished the installation, if i try to access by another computeur i get a error in log like this (nginx_1.0.10/fastcgi_temp/2/00/0000000002" failed (13: Permission denied) while reading upstream,) [11:08:48] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "[Polyglot] Disable for the moment."" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45741 [11:08:53] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45741 [11:09:26] 03(mod) [Language validation] Implement Language::isWellFormedLanguageTag() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41478 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [11:11:27] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44956 [11:12:25] somebody have alla ready get this error ?? [11:13:07] 03(mod) Add core component for sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44339 (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:13:18] zyriuse: i think its a config-error in your nginx [11:14:31] New patchset: Amire80; "(bug 41476) Implement Language::isKnownLanguageTag()" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45069 [11:14:35] i don't think because in my computeur at my home theyre is no probleme [11:15:00] but when i try to connect by another PC it's like [11:15:03] 03(mod) Add core component for sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44339 +comment (10daniel.kinzler) [11:15:15] he can find a css or anything else [11:16:13] i think you can restrict the access to the local machine [11:16:20] who me ? [11:16:32] in the nginx-config [11:16:46] zyriuse: gut a url for your wiki? [11:16:49] no because if i clear the cache on my computer at my home i get the problem [11:17:06] look -> http://mediawiki.sd-22427.dedibox.fr/index.php?title=Accueil [11:17:33] zyriuse: i can't even resolve that domain name [11:17:38] me too [11:17:44] which i guess would explain quite a few problems [11:17:46] ohh sorry [11:17:54] give me one minute [11:18:50] New patchset: Platonides; "Add link to the php manual to the IBM DB2 installer entry." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45742 [11:19:07] 03(mod) Add core component for sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44339 +comment (10aklapper) [11:27:26] 03(NEW) Cannot delete (parts of) text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44340 major; VisualEditor: General; () [11:28:43] 03(mod) Cannot delete (parts of) text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44340 (10Edin) [11:30:44] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 +comment (10malafaya) [11:31:16] 03(mod) Cannot delete (parts of) text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44340 (10Edin) [11:35:32] New patchset: Santhosh; "WIP - Inline message editor on Search page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45743 [11:38:01] New patchset: Santhosh; "WIP - Inline message editor on Search page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45743 [11:47:22] 03(NEW) action=parse should throw an error for interwiki links in page parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44341 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [11:49:17] 03(mod) [Regression] Error creating thumbnail: Error reading SVG:Invalid URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41372 major->normal; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:50:43] New patchset: J; "Cleanup Firefogg integration" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39035 [11:56:08] 03(mod) [Regression] Error creating thumbnail: convert: Too many IDAT's found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41374 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:57:41] 03(mod) Greyscale Jpg Thumbnails do not get sharpened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43268 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:00:06] 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized error preventing thumbnail display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43345 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:01:38] 03(mod) "thumbnail" or "thumb" embed fails on Tulsi Gabbard.jpg unless pixel width specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43357 +comment (10aklapper) [12:04:00] 03(mod) Add core component for sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44339 +comment (10aude.wiki) [12:04:01] New patchset: Siebrand; "Add support for Web Link Checker" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45745 [12:06:08] Change merged: Siebrand; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45745 [12:07:37] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45674 [12:11:21] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10dereckson) [12:14:43] New patchset: Santhosh; "Use correct classes for optional, fuzzy, translated messages" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45522 [12:29:11] 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299 +comment (10zfilipin) [12:32:54] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use SCIDs to reference schema." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45748 [12:36:13] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use SCIDs to reference schema." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45748 [12:43:23] New patchset: Santhosh; "Preload next message while opening a message editor" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45749 [12:52:10] New patchset: Santhosh; "Fix a js error, follow up Ie7aeab2b" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45750 [12:52:51] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45522 [12:53:40] New patchset: Siebrand; "Change the save button label as per nature of translation" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45523 [13:01:55] New review: Amire80; "A little nitpick." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45743 [13:03:48] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44338) set the site internal id when loading sites from the db" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [13:04:15] hello, I've a problem with moving element from toolbox to tabs [13:04:29] or somewhere else than toolbox [13:05:14] I have pdfprint in toolbox and toolbox is hidden for not logged in, and I'd like to move it to section that is visible to them [13:06:31] and I found a hook in pdfexport, that put pdfprint to toolbo [13:06:32] x [13:07:07] it is: $wgHooks['SkinTemplateToolboxEnd'][] = 'wfSpecialPdfToolbox'; [13:07:51] and I'd like to know how this line should look like to place pdfprint to tabs section [13:08:43] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45742 [13:09:21] 03(mod) Distinguish somehow between preview and diff on action=submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44334 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:09:23] 03(NEW) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [13:10:59] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 (10Russavia) [13:13:20] 03(mod) User list includes MediaWiki:Viewprevnext without rendering markup. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11454 +comment (10Luis Felipe Schenone) [13:16:28] 03(mod) Restricted content from Flickr need authorization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43593 summary (10Nischay Nahata) [13:18:16] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45740 [13:24:49] 03(mod) Add key mapping for Gujarati Typewriter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35044 +comment (10nileshbandhiya) [13:25:50] New patchset: Thaiphan; "Added file backend support for Windows Azure" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [13:28:03] 03(mod) Restricted content from Flickr needs authorization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43593 summary (10Nemo) [13:28:35] tymik: that line just registers a hook function. the actual work is done in the wfSpecialPdfToolbox function [13:28:54] tymik: you would register your own function for the same hook, and do whatever is necessary... [13:29:21] I'll give it a try [13:29:45] New patchset: Siebrand; "Fix i18n issues." [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45752 [13:31:20] disagreed - wfSpecialPdfToolbox function is just providing url. not the place the url goes, as i understand that code [13:32:01] tymik: you want it in page tabs? there's probably a different hook for that [13:32:02] !hooks [13:32:02] Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see . [13:32:03] there's an option i don't understand that code, but it doesn't seem as "where do i place link" function [13:32:15] tymik: you may need to use a different hook, then. hooking into the skin code is messy, sorry. [13:32:28] tymik: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinTemplateTabs , probably [13:32:31] but i don't know what hook and where to look them [13:32:51] ah, wait, no. [13:33:04] tymik: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinTemplateNavigation is the right one [13:33:10] tymik: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hooks#Skinning_Templates [13:33:24] 03(NEW) error handling when entering value for property of type item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44343 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [13:33:25] ok, thank you :) gonna check in a moment [13:34:03] MatmaRex: that hook isn't even mentioned in the skinning section >_< [13:34:04] is ther an sysop? [13:34:14] Steinsplitter: a sysop of what? [13:34:23] DanielK_WMDE: hooray for docs [13:34:24] mediawiki [13:34:35] DanielK_WMDE [13:34:39] DanielK_WMDE: i've found google or docs/hooks.txt being much more useful ;) [13:34:41] Steinsplitter: mediawiki.org? i think i still got that bit set, yea... [13:34:56] MatmaRex: yes. and grep. or better, ack. [13:35:58] DanielK_WMDE: the only thing better than grep when looking for stuff is a GUI interface to grep in your favorite editor ;) [13:37:54] 03(mod) error handling when entering value for property of type item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44343 +comment (10lydia.pintscher) [13:57:25] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change name of section so it does not get confused with Wikidata" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45754 [13:57:53] Reedy or anyone, is there a way to disable a core special page for a specific wiki? [13:57:59] * aude sees how to disable special page updates [13:58:43] wfRunHooks( 'SpecialPage_initList', array( &self::$mList ) ); [13:58:48] that's probably it [14:00:22] i have a question about the tablepager-class... where should i ask? [14:01:14] lbenedix: you can ask here, and if that doesn't help, ask on wikitech-l [14:02:07] its about the styling... it creates not the default grey/black tables but blue ones... i want to now how to change that [14:02:21] mitevam: [14:02:24] er, hi mitevam [14:03:15] btw. the tablepager is not really documented [14:03:39] there could be an example on Manual:Pager.php [14:04:41] sumanah: [14:04:41] mitevam: is now a good time to talk? [14:04:49] :) [14:05:05] sumanah: yes it is [14:05:09] so, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members - take a look at that [14:06:48] sumanah: i am looking [14:06:49] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45754 [14:06:56] mitevam: do you see a list of people? [14:07:18] sumanah: big thank you again :) [14:07:35] saper: :-) you're very welcome! It all comes from reading LWN every week. [14:08:04] sumanah: recently I noticed all good news comes to me only via trusted channels, and not RSS :) [14:08:49] I am in one of my not-using-RSS-feeds periods of my life .... maybe in Aaron's memory I will start again. But I understand what you're saying [14:09:51] <^demon> I started working on an RSS plugin for Gerrit last night for fun. [14:10:16] ^demon: we sure need more notifications from it ;) [14:10:17] ^demon: related to Dereckson's http://tools.dereckson.be/wikimedia/dev/feeds/ ? [14:10:49] <^demon> sumanah: Nope. Idea was "feed of recently created projects" [14:10:50] oooh, good idea! [14:10:57] I even stopped following casual news, except for, say, local radio. It was interesting to learn yesterday about the hospitalization of the Polish Prime Minister out of AFN radio station for U.S. military personnel in Germany [14:12:40] sumanah so what exactly am i looking at ? [14:12:45] <^demon> sumanah: Yeah, it's totally a "when I'm bored" project though :) [14:13:04] mitevam: ok. so, this is a list of people who have ability to merge code into MediaWiki core. [14:13:18] <^demon> The mediawiki group? [14:13:21] (I wanted to make sure you could see it before I discussed it) [14:13:21] it's not a complete list because there is also a list of [14:13:38] I mean, it's not complete because you see at the bottom 2 other groups that it includes [14:13:41] and you can't see those lists [14:13:45] ^demon: aren't there enough buzzword technologies like AJAX and REST built-in so that RSS should actually come out itself? :) [14:13:57] <^demon> sumanah: it's core + all extensions. [14:13:58] by itself, even [14:14:06] mitevam: because those lists are on an LDAP server and there is currently no way to query the ....... ^demon if you want to explain this go ahead [14:14:21] <^demon> saper: Well there's a rest api but gerrit has no concept of a project creation log. [14:14:22] ^demon: I think that "Permissions changed" feed would be cool [14:14:24] I know it's core + all extensions, I was taking this 1 step at a time [14:14:27] so sumanah is that equivalent to the +2 status ? [14:14:30] yes [14:14:32] <^demon> So there's no way to figure out "most recently created" [14:14:43] <^demon> saper: Permissions changed is easy--that's all in the _audit tables. [14:14:51] <^demon> Oh, acl changes. [14:14:56] <^demon> Harder. But possible. [14:15:01] mitevam: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [14:15:04] ^demon: gerrit has barely concept of anything - it employes a highly successful hot potato technique to outsource everything, if possible overseas [14:15:20] mitevam: once upon a time, when various volunteers got into MediaWiki development, they all used their personal email addreses [14:15:33] <^demon> saper: It knows what a git repo is :) [14:15:34] many did not bother changing them after getting hired by WMF [14:15:39] ^demon: but this needs to come together with ldap changelog, since without groups changes it is meaningless [14:15:40] <^demon> And it really likes Project.NameKeys :p [14:15:53] actually getting ldap replication should be possible within labs, no? [14:16:19] <^demon> We don't have an ldap service in labs yet. [14:16:26] mitevam: (I sent this list to you in a separate email) several people who have "+2" (core maintainer) power are not a WMF employee. you see several non-WMF people -- Brian Wolff, iAlex, Platonides, Raimond Spekking, TheDJ, and Victor Vasiliev. [14:16:28] we have [14:16:28] <^demon> Having one for the gerrit project would be nice, so I can stop using prod. [14:16:34] at least I can query something [14:16:42] <^demon> gerrit-dev points at prod. [14:16:56] ah, you mean "totally development ldap clone" [14:17:04] <^demon> Yeah, that would be nice :) [14:17:15] mitevam: if someone has +2 access to MediaWiki core, that means that they can merge or veto changesets into MediaWiki core, and for all MediaWiki extensions. For individual extensions there are sometimes also additional owners [14:17:16] well, we can use prod for R/O feed, why not [14:17:32] ^demon: that ^ was the 2nd step, the reason I separated that explanation out [14:17:42] <^demon> Ah :) [14:17:48] mitevam: some of those additional owners are not with WMF [14:18:06] oh mitevam I forgot to mention SPQRobin, who also does not work for WMF [14:18:49] also Daniel Kinzler works for Wikimedia Germany, not WMF [14:18:54] <^demon> sumanah: I really really like some of the gerrit tools people have made. We should setup a dedicated place in labs for these things. [14:18:57] I think at last count there were approximately 8 people who do not work for WMF who have +2 power in core, and I think there are about 5 other people who do not work for WMF who have +2 power in various extensions [14:19:08] ^demon: what is your list of tools you like? [14:19:20] <^demon> Well, those activity feeds. [14:19:22] if you can spew that list into IRC I can try to corral them [14:19:31] <^demon> Possibly something based on the RSS feed idea. [14:19:38] anything else? [14:19:41] <^demon> I like the potential of tools :p [14:19:45] mitevam: does that help clarify things? [14:19:59] oh, ^demon, ok, I see. I misunderstood you [14:21:04] mitevam: many engineers at WMF also have the ability to do +2 into core and extensions due to their membership in the wmf or ops LDAP group. As I said, unfortunately, right now there is no way to publicly see the membership of any LDAP group on our servers [14:21:10] so you can't tell that :( [14:22:37] mitevam: examples of non-WMF people who can merge or veto code for various extensions, including one of the 130 extensions we deploy on Wikimedia Foundation sites: [14:22:42] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/55,members hoo, on AbuseFilter [14:22:50] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/204,members Krenair, for Echo [14:23:14] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/383,members Tpt and Merlijn van Deen, for LabeledSectionTransclusions [14:23:32] ok sumanah so how do you get such permissions? [14:23:44] mitevam: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [14:24:10] The archive page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership/Archive has past requests, most of which were granted [14:24:22] the ones on that page now are lingering because no one has commented or because there is some kind of mixup [14:25:28] sumanah: and if you have a patch and you want it merged you need to go bug them to aprove it or you just wait for someone to see it ? [14:26:37] mitevam: so, there are a few ways to go about that. Check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews [14:27:52] mitevam: the safest thing to do is to assume that the author of the patch has to add reviewers. we are ameliorating that a little with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Reviewers which ^demon is probably also thinking of :-) (as a nice Gerrit-related tool someone has made) [14:29:08] 03(mod) Site internal id is not loaded in sites stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44338 (10Aude) [14:29:36] andre__: ping [14:32:14] mitevam: does that help answer your question? yes it's not perfect :( this is one reason why LevelUp concentrates on increasing capacity and increasing the number of people who are maintainers https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers of particular bits of the MediaWiki and Wikimedia digital infrastructure [14:33:41] (and social infrastructure) [14:34:18] ANYONE can review code -- anyone can look at changesets and suggest improvements or say "I've tested this and it works" and that is helpful [14:35:36] Reviewing other people's code also makes the reviewer a better coder [14:35:57] sumanah yes it makes sense [14:36:17] I understand that the 3rd party sysadmin community does not know this [14:36:36] sumanah: i am just trying to find some general criteria on how people are granted these rights, i see its a voting, vetoing kind of process, but is there guidelines [14:36:50] it saddens me that there is a misapprehension that there's only 1 non-WMF person who has +2 in core (and all extensions) [14:37:17] mitevam: yeah, it's in a mailing list post linked at the top of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [14:37:46] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/59681 [14:37:56] sumanah: yes just opened it before i wrote here , should have read it as well :P [14:38:01] it's ok :-) [14:38:03] i wanna learn about Wikimedia's analog infrastructure [14:38:06] it's a lot to read! [14:38:16] mark: I think that's, like, the food :-) [14:38:23] (hi mark and congrats on the data center migration!) [14:38:30] (tx) [14:39:12] sumanah: yes but it would be nice to correct that misunderstanding and to explain to people how they could possibly get such rights , so first I should probably understand it too [14:39:14] mitevam: mark is Mark Bergsma, the tech lead of our Operations department. Did you hear about the migration this week? it was huge, and the fact that we didn't have any outages...... [14:39:21] it's like Y2K [14:40:02] sumanah: the data center migration? [14:40:02] mitevam: sure, understandable. So, in order to get those rights, (a) you have to have some history of developing for MediaWiki, and (b) you have to have some experience in reviewing other people's code for that extension or for core [14:40:04] mitevam: yes [14:41:12] and then (c) you have to ask for the rights [14:41:16] that's the basics [14:41:40] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10Gustronico) [14:41:44] depending on what the requester is asking for, standards might be higher or lower [14:42:09] yes i imagine it is easier to get rights for an extension than core [14:42:13] like, if the requester is asking for those privileges for an extension that is not deployed on WMF sites and that no one else is maintaining, then it's very easy [14:42:18] Isarra did that recently [14:42:32] it's on that archive page of requests [14:44:00] so that's evidence of how easy that can be -- she practically said in her request that she disavowed any particular plans to maintain or contribute to these extensions, but since no one was already maintaining the extensions, and they aren't deployed on WMF sites, there was no particular reason to deny the request. [14:44:23] hahaha Isarra doesnt seem very excited about owning them :) [14:45:01] her personal style is to basically say "don't count on me for anything, ever" even when she is demonstrably working on things; if you try to talk to her about her work you will only get static [14:45:45] so what she said on the page may not not a measure of her actual interests [14:45:47] I'm sorry. [14:46:29] Perhaps I should say, when *I* try to talk to you about your work. Others may have different experiences! [14:47:19] mitevam: and then if there's an extension that is already deployed on WMF sites, that's a bit harder; look at the bean49 request for an example. [14:47:27] I see so I should read it that she is working on all 5 like crazy :) [14:47:36] I don't know! [14:47:46] do you know the word "orthogonal"? [14:48:14] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10Nemo) [14:48:15] 03(mod) Create {{#ifpageincat}} ParserFunction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27004 +comment (10Nemo) [14:49:20] Isarra: I'm sorry that I was so harsh just now. [14:49:32] 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 +comment (10s.mazeland) [14:49:45] I shouldn't have put things that way. [14:49:48] "don't count on me for anything, ever" is very open source indeed, that's how it works :) [14:49:53] My uncertainty is born of uncertainty. [14:49:58] saper: no, I do not think it is [14:50:05] no but i guess something about right and about vertices/angles [14:50:08] 03(NEW) Loading site links needs optimization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44344 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [14:50:17] I prefer to be accurate, especially when I don't know what I'm getting into. [14:50:28] saper: if no one felt they could count on each other then this whole enterprise would not work [14:50:57] sumanah: well, the warranty is disclaimed at least; and I remember early attitude to open source stuff in the enterprise for example [14:51:01] 03(mod) Thumbnails fail: "timeout" not installed, required in ulimit5.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44044 +comment (10dasch) [14:51:06] People work together and make the thing work - as awhole, folks feel they can count on each other. [14:51:16] I am using "enterprise" synonymously with "endeavor" saper - sorry for misunderstanding [14:51:23] sumanah: I agree 100% that nothing gets created without a committment, that's true [14:51:51] I used "enterprise" as in the typical IT slang thing, guys running MVS and stuff [14:51:56] mitevam: right .... 'x is orthogonal to y' in this crowd means "x and y do not have a causal relationship" [14:51:57] New patchset: Aude; "add profiling points in SiteSQLStore" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45760 [14:52:27] But that's a whole - open source stuff just needs to work for whatever they're making it work for, which may not... be what others care about? [14:52:55] mitevam: or that they do not even correlate at all. like, someone might argue that the quality of a book and the attractiveness of its cover are orthogonal. ("don't judge a book by its cover") [14:53:19] sumanah: talking about causal relationship - totally wrong but still funny - http://gizmodo.com/5977989/internet-explorer-vs-murder-rate-will-be-your-favorite-chart-today [14:53:19] so, that is your vocabulary lesson for today :-) [14:53:28] 03(mod) parser function to detect if the current page is in a given category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18596 +comment (10gustronico) [14:53:28] ha! *clicks* [14:53:52] Sorry, I'm not much of a developer. [14:54:24] anyway mitevam so, non-WMF people also have the ability to get MediaWiki core +2 rights but it generally takes at least a year [14:54:53] A year of what? [14:55:16] Krenair started contributing in March 2012 and already has +2 on at least one WMF extensions repo (Echo), and has nearly gotten +2 in core in the past few months; I would be surprised if we didn't see him getting +2 in core in the next few months. [14:55:28] so sumanah if someone applies to LevelUp how much will that help ? [14:55:39] Krenair specifically not only has contributed code, and bug reports, but also code reviews of others [14:55:53] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10dasch) [14:55:53] Has anyone actually gotten +2 in a year, especially since this particular system hasn't been around that long? [14:56:30] New patchset: Aude; "add profiling points in SiteSQLStore" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45760 [14:56:37] Isarra: in this conversation I will assume good faith if you will. Deal? [14:57:08] Assume I'm tired and phrasing things poorly. [14:57:22] But... yeah. [14:57:38] Thanks. [14:57:40] mitevam: Since this is the first quarter of LevelUp, my statements here will be speculation, prediction, etc. :-) But I think it will help, because the mentor is dedicated to reviewing the mentee's code and metareviewing their reviews [14:58:10] mitevam sometimes that delay in review & metareview delays the developer's growth, so taking out that delay should help. [14:58:21] Isarra: so, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members -- I'm looking at the members [14:58:39] sumanah: speaking about levelup, did you get my mail yesterday? [14:58:42] (also, hi :) ) [14:59:12] I see a blank gerrit page. [14:59:20] I'm disregarding the membership of the ops & wmf groups -- people who have +2 in core & extensions by virtue of going through the (lengthy!) hiring process [14:59:25] It's a list of admins? [14:59:51] Are you logged into Gerrit, Isarra? I think if you log in it won't be blank. [15:00:18] I don't know my password. [15:00:18] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/groups/11,members is the list of people who have the ability to merge (or veto) code into MediaWiki core or extensions. [15:00:27] Isarra: same as labs? [15:00:33] If you go to http://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/ you can retrieve it, Isarra [15:00:52] MatmaRex: hi. Yes, I got it! am waiting for response from the other person [15:01:01] This computer lacks things like email and passwords and I don [15:01:09] how do i set a parameter for an extension in localsettings? is that possible? [15:01:15] 't... well, anyway... [15:01:31] Isarra, it'll be easier to chat about this stuff if you log in [15:01:40] because then we will be looking at the same thing [15:01:40] sumanah: alright, thanks [15:01:46] but I can go on regardless :) [15:02:51] Well, I could go to the office... I left my functional computer there. [15:02:54] several people who have "+2" (core maintainer) power are not WMF employees. Brian Wolff, iAlex, Platonides, Raimond Spekking, TheDJ, Daniel Kinzler, SPQRobin, and Victor Vasiliev. Now I'm thinking about the number of years they've been contributing commits etc. [15:03:19] So this is svn history as well? [15:03:35] Yes. [15:03:50] Well, let me back up. [15:04:08] But there were more than that who were active and trusted before the migration. What happened to them? [15:04:15] People's history of contributing reviews and commits, whether via SVN or Git, definitely helps them get +2 [15:04:31] OK! so, the phrase "trusted" is perhaps a little difficult ..... [15:04:55] Can developers be trusted? [15:05:07] Gimme a minute to articulate the confusion [15:05:14] Do you know the history of the giiiiiiiiant SVN code backlog? [15:05:25] Nope! [15:05:49] <^demon> Well, some of the trusted people from SVN days aren't around anymore--we didn't copy the user list over en masse. [15:05:53] OK! so, once upon a time, basically anyone at all could get access to merge code into all of the extensions, [15:06:23] <^demon> However, anyone who was in that group is generally trusted and I can't think of anyone in that group who hasn't gotten core+2 (or couldn't easily get it if they asked) [15:06:33] and it was also not particularly difficult to get access to merge code into MediaWiki core. [15:06:43] ^demon: hold on what do you mean by ":trusted"? [15:06:59] * sumanah kind of needs to tell this story! [15:07:06] it's important to understand why things are as they are now [15:07:42] <^demon> sumanah: Been around a long time. Has a clue. Generally commits good code. [15:07:59] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10Happy-melon) [15:07:59] Then we should probably not use the word "trusted" for that ^demon we should use something like "respected" [15:08:22] I think "trusted" here the way Isarra is using it means "has +2 privileges" although I could be wrong. [15:09:35] I mean trusted like how we trust, say, YuviPanda to not do anything stupid because he's competent and reliable and stuff. [15:09:44] When I arrived in 2011, there were hundreds of people who had Subversion access to extensions, and at least dozens who could commit to core. ^demon about how many was it? At least 80, I think. And for perspective we had about 30 engineers at WMF [15:09:54] <^demon> Something like that. [15:10:01] Isarra: ok! so you simply mean the informal social meaning of "trusted" and not something specific re privileges? [15:10:08] Is it now the other way around, proportionally? [15:10:12] Right. [15:10:18] Aha! okay, I misunderstood you [15:10:21] <^demon> I was just trying to make the point that "sane core contributors from svn days who are still around can generally be trusted with +2 on core in git, although we didn't copy the list automatically." [15:10:24] <^demon> :) [15:10:25] I thought you meant "Trusted"(tm) [15:10:56] Isarra: I have specifically nominated YuviPanda for +2 in core and he refused!!!! [15:11:07] Would you believe it! [15:11:16] Yes. [15:11:24] * Isarra eyes him suspiciously. [15:11:35] So, again, let me continue with this story [15:12:00] * Isarra refrains from interrupting to enquire about insane core contributors. [15:12:31] The review process was "post-commit review" -- once someone committed code in, it was merged! and then if someone saw a problem with it, it had to be reverted! and if no one noticed the problem for a while, then maybe other changes might have built on top of that one in the interim! arrrggghhhh [15:13:01] and so we had to limit how many people we gave core access to, and so that means we had to limit who we gave SVN access to. [15:13:38] (and there was no "WMF-deployed extensions" sub-set that got special screening -- ALL extensions were in the extensions repo so ANYONE could merge changes into it. Sometimes this caused problems) [15:13:46] * ^demon grabs some storytime popcorn [15:13:51] And so if someone didn't have SVN access then they had to submit their patch in Bugzilla [15:14:12] and as bad as the patch backlog in BZ is now, it was 8 times worse in 2011 (I do not know the exact number) [15:14:58] So we ended up building huge queues of commits that *were already in core and needed to be reviewed* before we felt safe to deploy or release new MediaWiki upgrades to the sites or as tarballs [15:15:40] it was like we had been thoughtlessly flicking lit cigarette butts into a haystack while we stood next to it, for months, and then hoped none of them smoldered, and then picked through it looking for them later [15:15:49] ok, terrible analogy, let's forget that [15:15:55] New patchset: Siebrand; "Added new "byemail" action to the new users log" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [15:15:59] I get the picture. [15:16:06] (Isarra is generous.) [15:16:48] So if someone was trusted then, and with a long history of good contributions and review, why would they now be turned down [15:16:50] New review: Siebrand; "L10n/i18n reviewed. One less i18n issue. Yay! :)" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [15:16:51] ? [15:17:33] hey sumanah :) [15:17:36] ah [15:17:37] Anyway, so, this was unsustainable. We had already started talking about moving to another version control system, because SVN just is terrible at merging branches, and because it would have been so difficult to implement pre-merge code review with the setup we had. (Simplification!) [15:17:39] * YuviPanda reads backlog [15:18:24] "I mean trusted like how we trust, say, YuviPanda to not do anything stupid because he's competent and reliable and stuff." That should go into bugzilla's list of quotes, I think... [15:18:41] So when we moved over to Git we had a bunch of discussions about how to do +2 stuff. I led the discussion that led to the policy ... as we talked, we saw that one problem was the dissociation of responsibility from privilege [15:19:04] If only I could find out where that list lives... [15:19:06] Isarra: I'll be responding to that, gimme a moment [15:19:31] siebrand: :D [15:19:41] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/59681 which was: let's start by limiting +2 in core/extensions to those with the ability to deploy to WMF sites, because that way if someone merged in code that caused a problem, they would immediately feel the pain and be able to fix it (again, simplification) [15:20:05] Your quip 'Isarra: "I mean trusted like how we trust, say, YuviPanda to not do anything stupid because he's competent and reliable and stuff."' has been added. [15:20:11] siebrand: o.O [15:20:17] :D [15:20:27] siebrand: you've perms to approve quips? [15:20:31] or just submit them? [15:21:03] sumanah: But wouldn't that lead to a reater gap between volunteers and staff? [15:21:14] Isarra: I think I'm not quite understanding you because you are implying that there were specific well-respected developers who asked for +2 in core and were turned down. Are you talking more about how in the move from SVN to git, the list of people who could merge into core was reduced? (Many WMF people also lost the ability to merge into core) [15:21:34] Maybe, I'm not sure. [15:21:47] Isarra: yes, and that cost was definitely one we talked about! so let me talk about the tradeoffs here. [15:21:54] YuviPanda: I'm a bugzilla admin. No idea how they work, really. It appears to be the first I've added. [15:21:56] (Engineering is about tradeoffs, right?) [15:22:14] Everything is about tradeoffs, pretty much. [15:22:14] YuviPanda: You've added more than I have. [15:22:15] sumanah, pong [15:22:17] Isarra: so, the most open way we could do it would be the way TikiWiki works. They let ANYONE merge code into the codebase. [15:22:19] siebrand: ah, right. Us mere mortals can only add them to a queue where people like you will have to approve them. [15:22:22] siebrand: indeed :) [15:22:51] wonderful idea! /me merges massive change to core that converts all tabs into saner spaces [15:22:54] However if we did that then WMF sites would crash all the time [15:22:59] and that would be contrary to our mission [15:23:19] so, we know we need a code review step between a person proposing a changeset and it getting deployed onto WMF sites [15:23:32] siebrand: you'll be happy to hear that an iOS Commons uploader is in the works :) [15:23:43] you should be able to test it in a few weeks' time. Brion's on it. [15:23:51] YuviPanda: Ah, I see. There indeed are a few that have not been approved yet. I'll review those. [15:24:00] YuviPanda: siebrand has +2 on bugzilla :) [15:24:18] Git *leveled the playing field* in that it was now possible for EVERYONE to commit a changeset into the main source control repository (unlike the SVN/Bugzilla divide) however it then curtailed any novice's ability to merge that code into core [15:24:55] sumanah: isn't tikiwiki a disaster? last time I checked [15:25:08] saper: I have not checked out the codebase or community for TikiWiki. [15:25:25] we got far better stability in core -- and thus we can now deploy improvements to WMF sites every 2 weeks. Before the Git switchover it was MONTHS between deployments [15:25:51] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45739 [15:26:02] we have run into quality control issues FAR LESS than when the ability to merge code into core was more widely distributed [15:26:12] sumanah: That depends on the perspective. [15:26:23] New review: Cmcmahon; "PhantomJS needs primitive IE6 edit page" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45738 [15:26:32] sumanah: Before brion left for status net, that wasn't the case. After the went, yes. [15:26:35] sumanah: I wanted once to fix some stuff there (remove some horrible redundancy in code & db structures) and I didn't know where to start... there was too much cruft and I gave up [15:26:45] New review: Cmcmahon; "skip tests not appropriate for PhantomJS" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45737 [15:26:51] siebrand: ok. I'm talking about the fact that routine deployments don't cause problems for the users [15:26:54] Leveled playing field for new folks, yes. But it did also alienate at least some older ones from what I understand... [15:27:09] Isarra: Every change will do that. Part of the cost of doing business, unfortunately. [15:27:19] New review: Cmcmahon; "variable PhantomJS option" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45736 [15:27:19] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45739 [15:27:19] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45738 [15:27:20] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45737 [15:27:20] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45736 [15:27:21] Some of the git/gerrit hatred appears to stem as much from that as from the horror that is the software itself. [15:27:22] I also embarked on a campaign to get +2 for more volunteers [15:27:34] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45536 [15:27:34] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45536 [15:27:42] * saper does not feel particularly alienated because he had SVN commit right to trunk and can't merge to master [15:27:42] * Isarra throws a chicken at chrismcmahon. [15:28:03] Isarra: yes. Some people dislike the tradeoff that was made. People don't like losing privileges. I understand that. [15:28:05] sumanah: How did it go? [15:28:08] Isarra: pretty well [15:28:09] * chrismcmahon gets a chicken upside the head. Hi Isarra.  [15:28:16] Hey, man! [15:28:20] * YuviPanda throws mutton at Isarra [15:28:21] 'Sup? [15:28:24] Oik! [15:28:52] Isarra: those people I mentioned who are volunteers who have +2 -- Brian, TheDJ, SPQRobin, etc etc -- I helped propose them for +2 and they got it. [15:28:58] * Isarra retaliates with squirrel meat. [15:29:13] whats with the meat throwing ? :) [15:29:18] saper: That's probably why it worked at all. >.< [15:29:26] sumanah: Eep. [15:29:35] saper: what time was it that you gave up? 2011? [15:29:36] It seemed like a good idea at the time. [15:29:48] mitevam: throwing objects is possibly the national sport of the country of IRC [15:29:54] And I send emails to individual developers who are doing stuff in particular extensions, encouraging them to consider asking for Gerrit group ownership [15:29:59] mitevam: #gsoc however, prefers to make various kinds of Tea [15:30:01] er, Gerrit group membership, project ownership [15:30:39] I hope after the current LevelUp round we'll see more candidates to promote [15:31:37] sumanah: no, way earlier [15:31:42] So Isarra if there are specific people you are thinking of whom you think should have +2 and don't, it might be because I have asked them "do you want +2" and they said "no" [15:31:43] hm YuviPanda first time I see that, is there a particular reason for all the meat exchange [15:32:08] I've tried to reach out to a lot of respected people [15:32:28] Were there any particular reasons they tend to say no? [15:32:33] Or are. [15:32:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership/Archive has the archive of discussions [15:32:51] "I don't feel ready" [15:32:54] That seems to be a big one [15:33:11] "I haven't done enough" [15:33:14] "I've only worked in [area]" [15:33:34] I then try to encourage them but they often demur :( [15:33:34] Huh. [15:33:37] Yeah. [15:33:53] That's rather interesting. [15:34:01] YuviPanda is one example here [15:34:10] so sumanah how long does it usually take to get your patch reviewed and approved( I realize it varies) , I am getting the sense taht there is a big backlog ? [15:34:16] I feel comfortable talking about him because he's a friend and I think he won't mind [15:34:38] mitevam: the Signpost did a study on this, let me dig it up. It's usually under a week [15:35:23] Isarra: so, does that help you understand why things are as they are now? [15:35:59] mitevam: example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-11-12/Technology_report [15:36:11] "50% of patchsets submitted during October were reviewed just two and a half hours after submission, and 75% within 18 hours." [15:36:17] mitevam: i have patches waiting since september. it takes longer for non-wmf people [15:36:34] mitevam: MatmaRex also has had patches reviewed very quickly as well [15:36:39] mitevam: most are pretty quick, though, especially trivial changes [15:37:05] but i'm often working in areas where there are few active people :/ [15:37:17] there's an effort at WMF especially to increase the number of people who feel comfortable reviewing "frontend" changes (JavaScript especially) [15:38:08] mitevam: there is a backlog. Check out https://toolserver.org/~bawolff/gerrit-stats.htm for some stats [15:38:22] if there is any issue because of +2, it's because some code goes in too fast. One person reviews, +2 and voila [15:38:40] sumanah: i was unable to find out how many of this 50% were submissions to wmfX branches, or to ops repos, etc., last time we talked about this [15:38:48] sumanah: but i'm afraid it's a large percetange [15:39:25] backports are usually merged immediately, so are e.g. changes to test infrastructure [15:39:28] saper: are you talking about people self-merging?" [15:40:38] Isarra: if you have any suggestions for specific people to reach out to, to suggest that maybe they should ask for +2 in core or I should nominate them for +2 in core, please do let me know [15:40:50] I make this appeal every once in a while in #mediawiki or to other folks, maybe it's overdue [15:41:19] sumanah: Thank you. [15:41:28] Yeah, that does help. [15:41:44] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Andre Klapper) [15:41:54] mitevam: if a person submits a patch and follows the suggestions in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Code_review/Getting_reviews -- the wait for a first response is usually under a day, I think [15:42:03] (Sorry, I was packing.) [15:42:24] however there is a wait for actual merge. And this is where LevelUp will come in, I hope, increasing the number of people with maintainership in core & extensions [15:42:28] Isarra: Glad I could help! [15:42:48] sumanah: not necessarily, but yes, that too. For example, if some volunteer would propose https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/Iae38b93d65182158561b92168af51a1e9f50374c,n,z it would be debated for weeks [15:43:29] New review: Parent5446; "How does it break? Because all this change does it add protocols to the URLs." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45474 [15:43:30] New patchset: Zfilipin; "A few UploadWizard tests fail because of a known PhantomJS problem" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45765 [15:43:51] 03(mod) parser function to detect if the current page is in a given category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18596 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [15:44:24] sumanah: actually i thought it was much longer [15:44:54] hi sucheta [15:45:07] it's not the first review that you have to wait weeks for, it's the last :/ [15:45:07] mitevam: you thought the wait was longer? It does depend. :/ [15:45:59] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added initial extension code." [mediawiki/extensions/ThrottleOverride] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45517 [15:46:18] sumanah, Hi! Do we have some presentations/ videos or something like that to introduce people to MediaWiki? [15:46:33] sucheta: What audience? [15:46:47] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Simplified code. Removed not needed if-else" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45766 [15:46:52] sucheta: technologists or laypeople? and, do you want to just tell them about MW or encourage them to contribute? [15:47:15] sucheta: check out http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Presentations [15:47:59] sumanah, Beginners mostly. All of them will be engineering students. So, I would like to encourage them to contribute. [15:48:08] aharoni, thanks [15:48:14] * sucheta looks  [15:48:58] err, I meant 'ah', thanks. [15:49:10] ha! :-) [15:49:26] sucheta: also check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture [15:50:48] ok, mitevam I finally had a second to look at that IE chart. Ha! [15:51:19] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "use strict null check" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45767 [15:51:24] New review: Anomie; "Code looks good. One issue in MessagesQqq; if that's something that should be fixed in translatewiki..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [15:51:45] also, people who want to see how we outpace a different FLOSS community at working with volunteer contributions, check out http://skud.dreamwidth.org/13354.html [15:52:09] hahaha sumanah its funny no?:) it reminds me of the "statistics" in econometrics [15:52:11] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed typo" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45768 [15:52:13] :) [15:53:15] sumanah, Actually chapter people are going to one of the IITs ( Indian Institute of Technology ) tomorrow. And I have to go along. Although it was supposed to be an Wikipedia Editing thing. But we do have plenty of time. And most of the students will be having technological background. So, I thought, introducing them to MediaWiki might be a good idea too [15:53:50] 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 +comment (10hoo) [15:53:52] makes sense! [15:53:55] 03(NEW) Some wikitext breaks ambassador profiles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44345 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; () [15:55:07] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki might have something [15:56:10] sumanah, Whee! There are plenty of awesome stuff out there. Great help! :D [15:56:16] cool :-) [15:56:25] sucheta: also check slideshare.net [15:58:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added typehint" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45770 [15:59:38] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added initial extension code." [mediawiki/extensions/ThrottleOverride] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45517 [15:59:56] 03(mod) parser function to detect if the current page is in a given category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18596 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:02:32] New patchset: Santhosh; "WIP - Inline message editor on Search page" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45743 [16:03:45] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:04:40] 03(NEW) PingLimiter hook cannot override result. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44346 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [16:07:04] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 44346) Fixed call signature for PingLimiter hook." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45771 [16:07:42] 03(mod) PingLimiter hook cannot override result. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44346 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:09:20] 03(mod) Integrate git/Gerrit and Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17322 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:11:35] 03(NEW) if you click on the text area and as a result no longer this area susceptible to click / selection. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44347 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [16:11:38] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45771 [16:11:52] 03(mod) PingLimiter hook cannot override result. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44346 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:12:39] 03(mod) Allow gender and other grammatical properties be assigned to page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44331 +comment (10happy.melon.wiki) [16:16:42] btw sumanah guess who is getting married tomorrow :) [16:17:01] mitevam: Eeeeee! Congratulations! I hope it goes swimmingly [16:17:51] mitevam: I got married on a Friday, took that day off, was back to work on Monday [16:18:08] are you taking Monday off? (I would be ok with that) [16:18:15] sumanah: considering the weather forecast it might go literaly swimmingly:) but thank you ! [16:18:17] HAHA [16:19:01] mitevam: I guess you will have the "wedding shower" on the day of the wedding ;-) [16:19:01] haha sumanah nooo I don't think so, I am not allowed to do much other than sit on the couch right now so I can't really do anything special :( [16:19:08] but thank you for offering [16:19:18] mitevam: ha! okay. BACK TO THE COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT MINES it will be [16:19:25] * sumanah hands you headlamp and pickaxe [16:20:02] hahaha [16:20:58] yeah, i will save the big celebration for after baby:) community management mines it will be for now :) [16:22:06] 03(mod) Add references entities to page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44287 +comment (10wikidata-bugs) [16:25:27] 03(mod) Add new usergroup "Passiver Sichter" (autoreview) to German Wiktionary (de.wikt) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44103 (10yoursmilie) [16:26:28] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 +comment (10zhorishna) [16:26:57] mitevam: :-) so, I don't want to stop you from getting dinner [16:27:07] I'm here for maybe 25 more min before lunchtime [16:29:29] 03(mod) Add references entities to page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44287 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:30:02] 03(mod) Implement Diff:ToArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44288 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:30:08] 03(mod) Implement Diff:ToArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44288 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [16:30:16] * DanielK_WMDE waves @sumana [16:30:26] Hi DanielK_WMDE - how are you? [16:30:57] a bit tired, got back from berlin too late last night [16:31:22] nod [16:32:13] DB (German Rail) was the tendency to break down as soon as temperatures drop below freezing. spend an hour waiting at the trains tation _/ [16:32:13] :/ [16:33:22] 03(mod) Add new usergroup "Passiver Sichter" (autoreview) to German Wiktionary (de.wikt) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44103 +comment (10aklapper) [16:33:56] sumanah: you'll be in SF too next month, right? do you already know how long your are staying? [16:33:58] New review: Bennylin; "Is there a way to move this forward?" [mediawiki/extensions/WebFonts] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24403 [16:34:11] DanielK_WMDE: oh are your dates set? [16:34:15] and will you be attending the event in new york on the weekend before? [16:34:21] sumanah: yeah i am about to go soon [16:34:33] mitevam: no prob. Enjoy your last night as a bachelor (ha) [16:34:46] more seriously, I'm happy for you and I hope you have a rockin' weekend [16:34:54] sumanah: i have a plan, but no flights yet. tuesday 26th to saturday 2nd. [16:34:57] thank youuu :) [16:35:03] DanielK_WMDE: sorry, I'm not sure what you're specifying ... Feb 26 ro March 2? [16:35:07] *to [16:35:08] yes [16:35:35] ah ok. And what NYC event? SMW for instance is in March [16:36:20] the nyc chapüter is organizing some sort of small get together for wikipedians [16:36:24] aude has the details [16:36:39] I had not heard [16:36:41] ok [16:36:50] I don't know of any conflict so I could perhaps come [16:40:04] New patchset: preilly; "small fixes for distribution" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45777 [16:40:55] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45777 [16:43:06] New review: Demon; "Nitpick in LICENSE." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45777 [16:43:53] New patchset: Cmcmahon; "first test for Math extension" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45778 [16:44:12] <^demon> preilly: On self-merging. It's generally best to at least wait a few minutes (unless you're fixing production or something :p). Just gives people a second to say "Hang on a second." [16:44:17] <^demon> Whole point of code review :) [16:44:42] sumanah: if you want to talk about the open source conf, I will be at the office in an hr or so, and the meeting doesn't start until 10 [16:44:45] ^demon: I'm not using code review for this portion of the project, but thanks for reaching out [16:44:58] yurik: OSBridge, or something else? [16:45:08] is there another one? [16:45:14] NYC Open Tech Conference [16:45:29] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45778 [16:45:39] sigh. Sure, will do them all :) [16:45:46] yurik: and SMWCon in NYC [16:46:39] semantic i was planning to attend anyway, but i guess its the open tech - re using open source in biz [16:47:12] unless my ex boss minds (doubt he would), i could cover some use cases in a hedgefund [16:47:13] http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2013/01/2013-call-for-proposals-now-open/ http://osconfny.herokuapp.com/ http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Spring_2013 [16:48:14] yep, but will not write until this weekend - have a meeting at the offices before that :) [16:48:39] okay [16:49:02] I am not on the organizing committees for any of these conferences [16:49:28] sumanah: we could talk in person about them if you have time today [16:49:49] interesting! I live in Astoria, wasn't planning on heading into Manhattan until the evening-time [16:50:01] ohh, oops - i thought you were in SF :))) [16:50:17] by offices i meant WMF ones :) [16:50:56] oh you're in SF! exciting! [16:51:21] <^demon> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115794 - it's the end of an era. [16:52:11] sumanah: DanielK_WMDE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wikipedia_Day :) [16:52:35] ^demon: will you notify the pywikipedia community? also close out any remaining tickets in the commit access queue in OTRS? [16:52:41] ^demon: pywikipediabot is still there :) [16:53:13] <^demon> sumanah, yurik: pywikipedia and wikimedia repo were unaffected (per my e-mail) [16:53:19] <^demon> MediaWiki repo was only one set read-only. [16:53:23] New patchset: preilly; "add more files for distribution" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45779 [16:53:31] oh I missed that I am sorry ^demon [16:53:35] ^demon: awww :/ [16:53:40] I don't know how I missed that [16:54:01] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 +comment (10malafaya) [16:54:57] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "removed unused use statement" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45780 [16:55:27] New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45779 [16:55:28] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45779 [16:56:52] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:56:57] ^demon: are you the right person to ask for Jenkins and PEP8 lint'ing to be configured for the sartoris.git repo? [16:57:09] <^demon> Nope, that's all Antoine. [16:57:24] ^demon: and he is on vacation right? [16:57:31] <^demon> I know some stuff with jenkins, but I've not done anything with the pep8 or configuring new jobs in zuul. [16:57:46] <^demon> He's out for a few days. [16:57:47] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [16:58:17] New code comment: Reedy; svn:eol-style native; [16:59:11] <^demon> The final commit ever. And it got fixme'd. [16:59:16] <^demon> How fantastic is that. [16:59:23] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 +comment (10sam) [16:59:36] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45760 [16:59:41] * yurik contemplating how to make a GIT post-commit server hook to get rid of the annoying RELEASE_NOTES conflicts... magic auto-copy from git comment? [16:59:51] 03(NEW) Special pages jobs not executed recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 critical; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [17:01:51] New patchset: CSteipp; "By default, keep users in HTTPS with wgSecureLogin" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [17:02:19] Reedy: you win sir, you win (for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115794) [17:02:39] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10sam) [17:02:45] <^demon> I can't believe I forgot eol-style. [17:02:53] <^demon> After years and years of freaking eol-style. [17:02:57] lol [17:03:18] llololol [17:03:24] New patchset: preilly; "fix version and line continuation" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45781 [17:03:54] ^demon, congratulations! now you've forgotten the horrors of SVN! [17:04:02] New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45781 [17:04:03] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45781 [17:04:04] better not recall them [17:04:06] <^demon> I know. Git has spoiled me. [17:04:20] JeroenDeDauw: :D [17:04:35] New review: CSteipp; "I had actually thought of Tyler's scenario as a feature, more than a bug, but I agree, it isn't what..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [17:06:27] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10odder.wiki) [17:06:34] 03(mod) Loading site links needs optimization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44344 +comment (10aude.wiki) [17:06:50] New patchset: preilly; "enabled date tagging" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45782 [17:07:11] New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45782 [17:07:11] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45782 [17:08:02] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 04CRIT->major; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:14:03] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 +comment (10aklapper) [17:14:45] 03(NEW) updateSpecialPages is run twice on small wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44349 trivial; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [17:17:24] 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized error preventing thumbnail display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43345 +comment (10allen4names) [17:17:25] New review: Parent5446; ":/ but now if they go to the login URL directly it won't be checked. Meh, it's not too big an issue...." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [17:18:45] 03(mod) parser function to detect if the current page is in a given category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18596 (10Nemo) [17:20:39] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10sam) [17:22:55] sucheta: there is also etherpad.wikimedia.org/beginner-hackathons-thoughts [17:22:55] but needs more wwork [17:22:55] to be completly usable [17:22:55] sucheta: and good luck at KGP [17:23:05] 03(mod) Loading site links needs optimization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44344 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [17:23:46] GrrrGrr, I know, I used that in my last hackathon :) [17:25:23] But I was looking for some presentations/ videos this time. Don't think I would be getting much time for some hands-on thing. [17:25:53] sucheta: ah [17:25:54] ok [17:26:02] sucheta: still, good luck :) [17:26:16] Err. It's you! [17:26:44] sucheta: see this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hackathon_Berlin_2012 [17:26:46] I guessed it though. [17:28:51] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:33:30] sucheta: it's me, yes :P [17:33:35] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:33:49] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:39:39] sucheta: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Hackathon_San_Francisco_2012 also take a look [17:40:58] YuviPanda is enjoying :) [17:41:06] heh :) [17:41:37] YuviPanda: Ha Ha :) [17:41:59] Change merged: Nikerabbit; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45750 [17:42:46] New patchset: CSteipp; "By default, keep users in HTTPS with wgSecureLogin" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [17:45:59] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Whitespace" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45784 [17:48:25] New review: CSteipp; "I'm not sure how many people have the login page bookmarked, but I would hate for someone to have th..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [17:50:05] Is there a good word to refer to what talkpages are? [17:50:40] Best I could come up with is 'user-to-user communication system', and that's a bit of a mouthful. [17:51:43] Isarra: Meta-discussion medium? [17:51:49] <^demon> I guess it kinds of depends on the type of talkpage. I would think for article-space, you could probably say "Collaboration area" (does that sound yuck?) [17:51:51] (since it's not only user [17:51:54] -to-user) [17:52:00] <^demon> For user talk pages, "User-to-user communication" isn't bad. [17:52:21] !e EtherEditor | Now THIS is a collaboration area [17:52:21] Now THIS is a collaboration area: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EtherEditor [17:52:38] marktraceur: is there ever a chance of ethereditor being deployed? [17:52:40] Abuse of wm-bot 101: I got an A+. [17:53:05] YuviPanda: sucheta is working on finalizing some parts of it, and when I get shuffled off of Parsoid I might be able to finish it up [17:53:12] YuviPanda: Write your congressmen [17:53:21] haha [17:53:25] Hrm. [17:53:35] yeah, i've been talking with sucheta a fair bit. [17:53:39] we'll be meting up in abour 3 weeks [17:53:53] At GNUnify? [17:53:56] marktraceur: but, will it be deployed even after it is finalized? [17:53:59] on the cluster? [17:54:00] Wheee, parsoid... [17:54:02] marktraceur: yes, GNUnify [17:54:22] YuviPanda: I suspect it's something we could use on mw.org, but I don't know how much it would take to get it on enwiki [17:54:40] hmm, indeed [17:54:43] YuviPanda: It certainly seems like an awesome idea, but if VisualEditor takes off before we can get it to that stage, there's relatively little point [17:54:57] yeah, that's what I've always been thinking [17:55:03] either VE takes off and EE is doomed [17:55:03] YuviPanda: Especially since somebody has already built in a collaborative framework for VE :) [17:55:12] or VE doesn't and we're all doomed anyway :P [17:56:00] * marktraceur starts making cardboard signs for everyone [17:57:37] We need less collaboration areas. [17:57:50] There are clearly so many that everyone is too overwhelmed to collaborate half the time. [17:57:53] Isarra: How d'you figure? [17:58:40] A lot of people just can [17:58:41] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 +comment (10Nemo) [17:58:45] t seem to collaborate. [17:58:54] Instead they yell at each other over civility. [17:59:02] Which is, of course, not civil. [17:59:26] Isarra: I guess it's hard to bring a large number of people together without some disagreement over what "civility" means [17:59:38] Quite. [17:59:49] * marktraceur sees that firsthand nearly every day in other projects' channels [18:00:03] * AaronSchulz should put his glasses back on [18:00:06] I suggested the use of crowbars. This was deemed uncivil. [18:00:30] 03(NEW) Cannot search in Javanese script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44350 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; () [18:00:49] * Isarra stares intently at AaronSchulz' hair. [18:01:20] * AaronSchulz is tempted to look around since he doesn't know if it's irl [18:01:33] * Isarra giggles. [18:02:03] Isarra: giggling is uncivil [18:02:06] New review: Martineznovo; "Sorry for not spotting this before!" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [18:02:15] New patchset: CSteipp; "By default, keep users in HTTPS with wgSecureLogin" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45715 [18:02:17] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently on some wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 summary (10Nemo) [18:02:29] <^demon> Telling people they're uncivil is uncivil. [18:02:40] Shooting people is also uncivil. [18:02:42] no, but citing :WP:DICK is [18:02:54] * Isarra cocks a nerf gun. [18:03:04] <^demon> Nerf guns? Totally civil. [18:03:26] 03(mod) if you click on the text area and as a result no longer this area susceptible to click / selection. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44347 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:03:29] Well, when the battery is dead, sure... [18:04:18] * marktraceur makes sure his rifle is ready [18:05:00] Hm, the "nerf" qualifier is probably important to that sentence. [18:05:09] 03(mod) if you click on the text area and as a result no longer this area susceptible to click / selection. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44347 +comment (10aklapper) [18:05:26] 03(mod) Special pages jobs not executed recently on some wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44348 (10MZMcBride) [18:06:03] * YuviPanda has never seen a nerf gun [18:06:05] IRL, that is [18:08:11] I understand there's an entire arsenal in fundraising. [18:08:34] apergos: just to be sure, there is still no 'usable' wikitext -> html convertor that's not mediawiki? [18:08:55] (in the context of producing offline collections) [18:09:01] nope [18:09:14] parsoid someday. [18:09:34] far into the future... [18:09:42] * marktraceur takes issue with "someday" [18:09:47] !e HtmlDumper [18:09:47] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HtmlDumper [18:10:06] what was that extension called anyway? [18:10:23] 03(mod) Make size related database lists available for use as a "group" in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43741 +comment (10sam) [18:12:12] <^demon> YuviPanda: I used to have http://dartstrike.com/nerf-ballzooka when I was little. [18:12:14] <^demon> (Took me awhile to dig that one up) [18:12:17] Heh. [18:12:39] * YuviPanda adds it to list of things to do in the US [18:12:42] * marktraceur has been lugging around an old "Longshot" from high school [18:12:55] Need a new one, the spring is all but shot [18:13:05] it's like, you guys are from a different planet or something :P [18:13:33] Maybe I'll make a trip to a Wal-Mart this weekend. Sounds like a good use of my time. [18:14:09] <^demon> marktraceur: I've actually got to go there for unrelated reasons this evening. I'm totally getting a nerf gun. [18:14:12] * YuviPanda will drink a fair bit of Rum, write some non-Java code and go to a firefox event over the weekend [18:14:27] ^demon: I got maven to behave. Needed to setup my own remote repository [18:14:43] ^demon: You should maybe buy one out here, there's sort of a cold war happening, good to be prepared [18:14:50] ^demon: does MW / WMF have a amven repo somewhere? [18:15:09] <^demon> No. I thought you got one on maven central? [18:15:31] ^demon: so, the com.android packages on central are broken [18:15:47] I got an org.mediawiki.api (and a in.yuvi.http.fluent) on maven central [18:15:47] <^demon> marktraceur: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NERF-Gun-Lot-Ballzooka-Ball-Blaster-90s-/190789439282?pt=Outdoor_Toys_Structures_US&hash=item2c6befcf32 \o/ [18:15:48] Change merged: Subramanya Sastry; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45704 [18:16:02] ^demon: I initially got org.wikimedia, almost pushed it, and then realized I had the wrong domain [18:16:42] ^demon: I totally remember that one, my da had a few of them at his office when I would visit [18:17:00] <^demon> Buy it now for $50? [18:17:03] <^demon> Oh hell yes. [18:17:33] ^demon: Not a nerf gun per se, but this is what I'm thinking: http://www.amazon.com/Air-Warriors-Buzzbee-Range-Master/dp/B009JAY21A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359137831&sr=8-1&keywords=buzzbee+sniper [18:18:14] is there any built in way to count the total number of pages of an intersection of two categories? [18:18:25] 03(mod) $wgSelectCategoryEnableSubpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23106 +comment (10Martin Michlmayr) [18:18:35] 03(mod) Make size related database lists available for use as a "group" in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43741 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:18:55] 03(mod) $wgSelectCategoryEnableSubpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23106 +comment (10tbm) [18:23:24] richa_: Hey, thanks for the patch! :) [18:23:24] marktraceur: i can still see the line break on the live site though the bug fixed is merged ? [18:23:55] :) [18:23:57] Merged doesn't mean deployed [18:24:04] Yeah [18:24:19] richa_: Probably the next general deploy, or the next E2 deploy, will include your patch [18:25:02] 03(NEW) Doesn't work with current Validator: Class 'Parameter' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44351 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SubPageList; () [18:25:10] marktraceur: ok [18:25:54] 03(mod) Errant line break in UploadWizard "Use a different license" option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40646 (10richa jain) [18:25:59] 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized error preventing thumbnail display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43345 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:26:02] 03(mod) updateSpecialPages is run twice on small wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44349 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [18:26:29] New review: CSteipp; "no harm, looks fine." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43670 [18:26:30] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43670 [18:27:06] 03(mod) Wikilink to a repo item by sitelink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41572 +comment (10Bene*) [18:28:13] 03(mod) no edit link for user pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44001 (10Aude) [18:31:01] 03(mod) Cannot search in Javanese script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44350 normal->major; +i18n; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [18:31:22] 03(mod) Add git date to Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38783 +comment (10dasch) [18:31:27] 03(mod) updateSpecialPages is run twice on small wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44349 +comment (10sam) [18:32:22] New patchset: Nischayn22; "(bug 44336) Don't show invalid license wrongly" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45787 [18:32:50] New review: Martineznovo; "Just a minor issue left" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32700 [18:34:08] 03(mod) AddTermSearchKey.sql fails on sqlite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42688 (10Aude) [18:34:15] New review: Nischayn22; "No, how do I make sure?" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45124 [18:35:34] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'isAnon' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44051 (10Aude) [18:36:27] 03(mod) Wrong error message when uploading Invalid Flickr set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44336 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [18:36:53] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10sam) [18:37:41] 03(mod) Curse of the lead section toggles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43878 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [18:38:04] New review: Cmcmahon; "PhantomJS doesn't work with UW well, don't run those tests" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45765 [18:38:32] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10sam) [18:40:11] 03(mod) populateSitesTable.php broken, Undefined index: internalIds error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43194 (10Aude) [18:46:57] New patchset: Nischayn22; "Some cleanup of flickr handler" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45789 [18:49:11] 03(NEW) Create combined sql file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [18:49:22] 03(mod) Create combined sql file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:52:15] New review: Wikinaut; "I cannot login with my Google OpenID identity." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45474 [18:52:38] 03(mod) Create combined sql file for Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:56:03] 03(mod) Per-wiki namespace aliases shouldn't override (remove) global ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29692 (10Nemo) [18:56:31] 03(mod) Per-wiki namespace aliases shouldn't override (remove) global ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29692 +comment (10Nemo) [18:56:36] New review: Bsitu; "Looks good! I will leave this to kaldari and alex to take another look" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42557 [19:06:50] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40044) make $.tablesorter treat alt attribute like text" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [19:07:23] New review: Matmarex; "Thanks, fixed." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [19:07:28] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 40044) make $.tablesorter treat alt attribute like text" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23100 [19:09:55] 03(mod) Create combined sql file for Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [19:15:17] 03(mod) Login on https doesn't log you in on http - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44330 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [19:16:40] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45768 [19:19:15] Hello. [19:19:26] andre__ and valeriej > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage#Next_meeting [19:19:32] "We currently have a bugwrangler who triages bugs and organizes bug triage meetings to collectively prioritize, validate and assign bug reports, and to sometimes recruit developers to fix the bug or implement the enhancement. We announce the meetings ahead of time on wikitech-l and via Google Calendar, Identi.ca and Twitter." [19:19:45] New patchset: Reedy; "Output a newline after the total in getJobQueueLengths.php" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45790 [19:19:48] The Twitter account given in the link doesn't exist. [19:20:05] 03(NEW) Login page doesn't respect $wgSecureLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44353 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenID; () [19:20:28] (the identi.ca one exists, and announcement has been published) [19:20:54] There is also a Google Calendar link -> the calendar exists, no info published [19:21:08] Dereckson: I am not sure if andre__ is able to access the Google calendar. [19:22:00] Dereckson: I'll check the social media page and see if there's an active Twitter account we can get the announcement on. Thanks for pointing that out. [19:23:20] You're welcome. [19:23:30] Dereckson: Ah, it's been done: https://twitter.com/mediawiki/status/293434782841446400 [19:24:29] The identi.ca posts are also posted to Twitter. I'll change the URL to the MediaWiki account for now. [19:25:34] 03(mod) Curse of the lead section toggles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43878 +comment (10jrobson) [19:27:47] 03(mod) Login on https doesn't log you in on http - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44330 +comment (10Jon) [19:28:12] I concur: a specialized account for meetings is redundant with the Guillom effort to create a page and the calendar. [19:29:11] Did you see ttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Guillom/sandbox - it's a clean and nice events view. [19:30:40] Dereckson: Yes, I've seen it! It looks good. [19:30:50] :) [19:31:19] New patchset: preilly; "change readme for additional accuracy" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45793 [19:31:30] 03(mod) Create combined sql file for Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 +comment (10sam) [19:31:42] New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45793 [19:31:42] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45793 [19:31:59] 03(mod) Cursor position and deleting shows erroneous ordering objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43026 (10Rob Moen) [19:34:15] anyone in here have experience with the DynamicPageList extension? [19:36:36] 03(NEW) Handle Parsoid error messages and codes sanely - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44354 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [19:36:36] shifuimam: just ask your question :) many people here have touched various parts of mediawiki itself and its extensions [19:37:10] 03(mod) Please upload 4 videos to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44342 +comment (10odder.wiki) [19:37:28] well, i'm wanting to use DPL to list items from categories on another wiki [19:37:37] more specifically, count them [19:38:02] i run a wiki for a guild in Guild Wars. I want to get at information on the official GW wiki. i already have interwiki stuff working just fine, but this is for DPL [19:38:27] if you go here: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Shifuimam/skill_table_test there is an example of the counting i want to do using the DPL extension [19:38:46] i'm probably not explaining this very well so feel free to ask for clarification :P [19:39:08] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Improved job recycle rate for small queues." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43604 [19:39:10] I'm pretty sure DPL can't query external wikis [19:39:11] New review: CSteipp; "Posible improvement, otherwise looks ok" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43573 [19:40:40] shifuimam: ^ [19:40:56] dang [19:41:04] 03(NEW) Login form error message has no margin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44355 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [19:41:20] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Lowered negative caching duration." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45655 [19:41:49] i ultimately want to add the content to the official wiki so maybe that's just where i'll start instead of on my own wiki [19:42:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Handle Parsoid error messages and codes sanely - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44354 summary (10James Forrester) [19:43:49] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Negative caching causes far more problems when cache updates fail (e.g. the thumbnail 404 problem af..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45655 [19:45:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting content between a heading and an alien fails? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43135 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:47:26] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Use getHandler() is some places that should use it." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45795 [19:50:24] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Improved BagOStuff docs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45796 [19:55:24] is there a way to hide the "no results" message? [19:55:52] yep found it. sorry! [19:56:24] 03(mod) Extension:Translate and Extension:TranslationNotifications on br.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44054 +comment (10Nemo) [19:57:05] New review: CSteipp; "Looks fine" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44445 [19:57:06] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44445 [20:02:26] New review: CSteipp; "Simple reorg of lines" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43472 [20:02:27] Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43472 [20:02:40] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45796 [20:07:30] New patchset: IAlex; "Simplified code. Removed not needed if-else" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45766 [20:10:40] New patchset: Reedy; "Created a maintenance script to create the tables for Translate" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45797 [20:10:45] 03(mod) Install calendar extension on outreach wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31512 +comment (10Nemo) [20:11:16] Change merged: IAlex; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45766 [20:11:25] 03(mod) Create combined sql file for Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44352 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:13:59] New review: Matmarex; "Brief look, I didn't test (yet)." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32700 [20:15:02] New review: Wikinaut; "Hashar, " [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17333 [20:17:14] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Fix. Indentation error in abort()." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45798 [20:17:44] 03(mod) Extension:Translate and Extension:TranslationNotifications on br.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44054 +comment (10lugusto) [20:18:21] 03(mod) Extension:Translate and Extension:TranslationNotifications on br.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44054 +comment (10lugusto) [20:19:29] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43044 [20:22:32] New patchset: Umherirrender; "refactor Database::makeSelectOptions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45799 [20:22:35] New review: Johnduhart; "IMO this should be an extension and not in core, especially since it requires non-included dependenc..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [20:23:29] New patchset: IAlex; "use strict null check" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45767 [20:23:50] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Mod. Utilize _check_lock function in Sartoris::start()." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45800 [20:24:08] New review: Reedy; "I'm not sure why it isn't.. There seems to be a few relevant extensions already" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [20:25:34] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42588 [20:27:23] New patchset: Rfaulk; "Add. Expose command line args to Sartoris git-deploy functions." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45802 [20:27:24] New review: MarkAHershberger; "AzureStorage appears to be the author's extension." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41035 [20:27:48] New patchset: Umherirrender; "refactor Database::makeSelectOptions" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45799 [20:28:39] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45767 [20:29:20] New patchset: IAlex; "Added typehint" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45770 [20:29:52] New review: Umherirrender; "fixed trailing whitespaces" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45799 [20:30:48] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42581 [20:31:14] New review: Mattflaschen; "There's nothing really wrong with this, but the server ignores the title even if you provide it." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45748 [20:31:48] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "Refactored Database::makeSelectOptions with I0fbcb3e8 to avoid code duplication. The problem from th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41577 [20:32:04] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "Refactored Database::makeSelectOptions with I0fbcb3e8 to avoid code duplication. The problem from th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41578 [20:32:20] Change abandoned: Umherirrender; "Refactored Database::makeSelectOptions with I0fbcb3e8 to avoid code duplication. The problem from th..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41580 [20:32:48] Change merged: Zfilipin; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45765 [20:33:52] 03(mod) Curse of the lead section toggles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43878 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [20:33:59] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't employ responsive design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 +comment (10mflaschen) [20:35:04] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[LockManager] Refactoring to allow proper cross-wiki support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45822 [20:36:46] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Fixed the usage message text if parameters are missing." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45837 [20:38:19] anomie: want to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45822/ ? We still use the null one so there is not impact yet [20:38:45] AaronSchulz- sure [20:39:13] * AaronSchulz would like to do something similar with file backend too [20:40:31] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45770 [20:42:02] i can't really get behind wiki admins who pitch a fit when someone tries to create new content [20:43:24] is anybody here willing to review some minor CSS modifications to Vector? [20:43:29] or, where do i find such someone? [20:43:50] (i've also got some majorer ones pending, so that's available too if you prefer :) ) [20:44:14] ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44825/ - minor and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44859/ - sort of major) [20:44:58] andre__, perhaps? [20:45:20] * marktraceur saw him review some other CSS changes, so it could be good for him to check it out [20:45:25] i tink there are even fewer CSS people in WMF that JS ones. [20:45:55] I don't see myself as a CSS person. I just sometimes comment on trivial patches that I still understand, not being a coder. :) [20:46:06] MatmaRex: I can only vouch for myself, but I absolutely despise writing CSS. Reviewing it isn't nearly as annoying. [20:46:40] marktraceur: really? huh, i like writing it, it's understanding it later that takes a lot of practice ;) [20:46:48] I suppose so [20:47:30] this change is actually a case of me having absolutely no idea why this code that was there was ever needed [20:47:34] MatmaRex: For CSS changes to Vector, you should poke TrevorParscal [20:47:35] so i'm removing it [20:47:37] well, at least CSS is easy to test, easier than JS [20:47:40] RoanKattouw: he's in reviewers [20:47:46] OK [20:47:50] I'll poke him about those two specific commits [20:47:56] and he's the author of the code i'm killing in the first one [20:48:01] 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680 +comment (10mr.heat) [20:48:03] (or so claims git-blame) [20:48:49] Yeah Trevor wrote most of Vector so git-blame probably isn't wrong [20:48:55] I pinged him [20:49:07] And he's sitting next to me so I'll be able to harass him in person as well [20:49:15] haha [20:50:34] MatmaRex: He's writing response to the one-pixel image thing [20:50:41] Always great to be able to harass people vicariously over IRC. [20:50:42] Apparently more people have wondered this [20:50:55] But there's some reason why one-pixel images are needed [20:51:01] i may have asked about this myself once [20:51:10] as far as i know, they were needed for IE5 [20:51:33] but we're not supporting that since like 2008 [20:51:33] * marktraceur observes as half the VE team reviews a Vector change [20:51:38] haha [20:51:44] o hi TrevorParscal [20:51:59] "How many WMF engineers does it take to review a CSS change?" [20:52:31] marktraceur: OVER 9000 [20:52:36] => It'll never get done [20:52:55] Reedy: 1 to click "+2", 9000 to complain about Gerrit's shortcomings [20:52:57] MatmaRex: re: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44825/ [20:53:13] We can't drop support for older IE's yet [20:53:14] marktraceur: Nothing is trivial in mediawiki contexts, it takes many to do it right. [20:53:15] away [20:53:17] so, this won't work [20:53:48] TrevorParscal: what's it gonna cause in the worst case? one-pixel misalignment? [20:54:02] 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [20:54:09] 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337 (10Raimond Spekking) [20:54:28] horizontal scroll bar || 1px missaglinment = not acceptable [20:54:35] argh [20:54:44] TrevorParscal: Vector is so littered with clever hacks like this one that it's awfully hard to make any local changes to it :/ [20:54:53] * MatmaRex boots up a VM to test carefully [20:55:08] I agree with you, but removing them will cause problems [20:55:18] 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10mr.heat) [20:55:52] Reedy: ;) A true fan would shout "Over 8000" and wait for the real fans to get the double joke... [20:56:35] New patchset: Mwalker; "Making CN Pre-Content Handler Aware" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45894 [20:57:03] New review: Anomie; "Also a general note: It looks like if $wgLockManagers is not the same across all wikis, things will ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45822 [20:57:07] MatmaRex: I am open to new ways to solve this problem, but the way you are doing this causes other problems [20:57:53] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "More tests for mismatched attr quotes + entities in nowiki & pre." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45895 [20:58:42] MatmaRex: also, as per the 1px background images [20:59:06] the reason they are there is because we have an image fading from one color to another, then meeting the edge of a div with a solid background color [20:59:19] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[SemanticWebBrowser] Re-add extension after merging from SVN to Git" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45896 [21:00:03] if you specify that background color in CSS, in some older browsers especially, the PNG colors may be interpreted and rendered differently [21:00:15] and then at the seam there's a noticable color step [21:00:24] TrevorParscal: only if the PNG has embedded color profiles, as far as i know. [21:00:40] or semitransparency and you´re not using the alpha fix hack [21:00:49] (which we are using= [21:00:52] Change merged: GWicke; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45895 [21:00:55] Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45896 [21:01:15] TrevorParscal: also, i'm looking at it in a Windows SP3 unpatched IE 6 [21:01:15] it may be possible to avoid this, I'm again open to those changes, but that's not what you've done here [21:01:20] TrevorParscal: there's no horizontal scrollbar [21:01:32] TrevorParscal: although there is a double border between the tabs and the content [21:01:41] MatmaRex: perhaps not, but this change breaks things [21:02:06] TrevorParscal: things are already broken in IE6 [21:02:21] TrevorParscal: the tabs are not aligned with the content even before my changes [21:02:29] then we should be trying to align them [21:02:35] the toc is missing some paddings or something, looks ugly anyway [21:02:39] not make them misaligned in other browsers too [21:02:39] Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44830 [21:03:12] and we're not fully supporting IE6 according to the Compatibility page on mw.org [21:03:15] http://cl.ly/image/2x3Q11441Q0c and http://cl.ly/image/3p0e0X3c3d1z (IE6, just for comparison) [21:03:54] the Wikimedia and MediaWiki buttons in the footer are misaligned [21:04:01] and that's just a quick look at a random article [21:04:55] TrevorParscal: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Grade_B [21:04:59] is this page wrong about this? [21:05:08] MatmaRex: throwing in random other defects is not useful discussion [21:05:53] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileJournal] Refactored wiki ID handling into the base class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45897 [21:05:57] MatmaRex: http://cl.ly/image/2x3Q11441Q0c < chrome [21:06:05] anomie: also see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45897 [21:06:18] Krinkle: It's relevant to the extent that if we already don't support IE6 and it's already broken, we may not need to bother [21:06:26] But as you point out, this change breaks in Chrome as well [21:06:46] hm, it looked right when i was writing it, but i see something´s wrong now [21:06:55] will fix [21:07:04] MatmaRex: Grade B is correct [21:07:07] but, well, this isn't relevant to IE6 [21:07:35] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[LockManager] Refactoring to allow proper cross-wiki support." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45822 [21:07:38] New review: Trevor Parscal; "This change causes a few problems:" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44825 [21:07:55] thankfully [21:08:03] MatmaRex: "Basic compatibility" doesn't mean that everything may break. I agree there is no fine limit, so this one pixel off might be acceptable, but we have to draw a line somewhere as to the too much distortion. [21:08:19] MatmaRex: I'm very glad people are working on Vector, it needs love and attention - just be careful not to overlook the value and purpose of these hacks [21:08:19] Lets ignore the IE6 issue for now [21:08:23] 03(mod) Add a "hide these" checkbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44123 +comment (10swalling) [21:08:26] assuming they are mistakes is... a mistake [21:08:34] TrevorParscal: They should probably be documented better [21:08:40] +1 [21:08:43] Although there's not always an obvious place to document them [21:08:44] 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [21:08:48] TrevorParscal: i understand the importance and the ingenuity [21:09:00] TrevorParscal: but customizing vector is basically a huge pain in the ass [21:09:04] Agreed, but ripping things out because they aren't documented wouldn't fly anywhere in the codebase, please don't do it here [21:09:27] MatmaRex: let's work on making it easier to customize without breaking support though, please [21:09:27] i'm looking into the issue right now [21:09:40] I wrote Vector while we still had to support IE 5.5 [21:09:55] there are surely things we can get away with now that we couldn't then, it's due for some cleanup for sure [21:10:03] just, tread carefully [21:10:07] thar be dragons [21:10:51] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (REL1_20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44864 [21:11:49] dragons galore [21:12:14] 03(mod) Make domas' pageviews data available in semi-publicly queryable database format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259 (10Nemo) [21:15:36] New review: Trevor Parscal; "This is a cool idea, but it's not done yet." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44859 [21:16:13] terrrydactyl: Hi.. [21:16:21] New review: Anomie; "I have no idea how to test it, but it looks ok." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45897 [21:18:15] New review: Wikinaut; "I am now testing this "cherry picked" patch." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:18:42] 03(mod) RT tickets hide status information from volunteers and staff alike - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30413 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:18:56] is it possible to remove that UniversalLanguageSelector-thingy from a textarea i create within an extension? [21:19:33] Maybe [21:19:40] Though, possibly not [21:19:43] Why would you want to? [21:20:22] it confuses the firs 3 testusers i asked about the extension [21:21:49] New review: Wikinaut; "Here are the settings for this on the Provider-Wiki" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:22:46] New code comment: Shifuimam; Per bug 42610, this patch broke the ability to embed images from foreign file repos that redirect to; [21:23:07] i'd fix that if i knew how to :( [21:23:46] New review: Wikinaut; "Try to login on a consumer with "my" OpenID http://openid-wiki.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/wiki/User:..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:24:35] I'm building a SpecialPage extension with multiple "pages" (different information is displayed according to a WebRequest) and I was wondering if it's possible to add a subtitle to the page header. So the title would read 'My Extension Name - Subtitle' rather than just 'My Extension Name' as it does now. [21:24:41] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "(bug 44044) Check for existence of the timeout script in ulimit5.sh" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45898 [21:25:10] shifuimam: Log a bug if you haven't already [21:25:15] 03(mod) Thumbnails fail: "timeout" not installed, required in ulimit5.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44044 +comment (10aschulz4587) [21:25:20] there was one logged last decemberish [21:25:42] anomie: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45898/ [21:25:53] i suppose it's probably very minor is the big picture but it's causing serious problems for me. i know PHP pretty well, but mediawiki's a beast [21:26:48] Reedy: incidentally it looks like you released the patch following the above bugged one [21:26:58] maybe you can provide some insight into this chunk of code? [21:27:39] 2 years ago [21:27:46] ahaha [21:28:00] yeah... [21:28:11] "non-image locations on the remote wiki" [21:28:20] I'm not sure it's really a high priority thing [21:28:33] like i said...i'm sure it's very minor in the big picture of the application and all [21:28:49] and if i could fix it i would. unfortunately this is a bit beyond my PHP experience [21:29:32] For starters, I'd get the API response for both the normal (working) case and your case [21:32:12] New review: Platonides; "How are you differencing ?anonymous creating an account for himself by email? from ?account creator..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [21:32:40] 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [21:32:40] New review: Nemo bis; "Shouldn't it use ulimit as fallback, like ulimit4.sh?" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45898 [21:32:51] New review: Parent5446; "I'm a little confused. Are you asking what the purpose of this patch is? Because I clearly explained..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:34:43] New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 40067) Redirect user to main login form instead of OpenID." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:34:54] New review: Aaron Schulz; "You mean as a fallback for walltime? ulimit does nothing to limit wall time (which was the point of ..." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45898 [21:35:51] New patchset: Platonides; "$wgContLang global unused since b65893755" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45900 [21:37:59] New patchset: Platonides; "$wgContLang global unused in addNewUserLogEntry since b65893755" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45900 [21:38:42] yeah that's what i'm working on right now [21:38:58] i'm assuming you mean normal case as in an image that does embed properly? [21:39:14] that's hard to test on the wiki in question since pretty much every single image redirects [21:39:51] New review: Parent5446; "Anonymous users aren't allowed to make accounts by email. The option is removed from the form." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [21:41:27] Isarra: Are you flying out this evening? [21:42:44] New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 44141) Clean up usage of one-pixel images in Vector's CSS" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44825 [21:43:15] Reedy: am i correct in thikning that the changes to foreignAPIfile.php are what's preventing redirected images from working? [21:43:17] code is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki/66724&path=#c33289 [21:43:40] seems like the changes to foreignAPIrepo.php aren't the problem [21:44:31] I was going to say [21:44:43] That's changing the code to deal with a redirect, if one exists [21:45:03] 03(NEW) "action-openid-converter-access" message doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44356 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenID; () [21:45:10] 03(mod) "action-openid-converter-access" message doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44356 +easy (10Tyler Romeo) [21:45:19] yeah i'm looking at what the API spits out and that's what it's finding [21:45:29] In ForeignAPIRepo.php you can see that the redirects parameter was explicitly added too [21:45:38] yeah, i looked at the diff [21:45:46] i tried just reverting those changes but that broke everything entirely :) [21:47:54] Hello Ryan_Lane [21:48:09] this may be a stupid question, but how does the API provide the actual location of the image? [21:48:17] 03(mod) "action-openid-converter-access" and "action-openid-dashboard-access" message doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44356 summary; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [21:48:21] with an image that doesn't redirect i still dont' see that specific info [21:49:09] New review: Matmarex; "A fix and slightly different approach (with more cleanup)." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44825 [21:49:13] shifuimam: Is it not in the Location header? [21:49:35] that i don't know [21:49:50] it's been like five years since i've done any web dev [21:49:52] 03(mod) Increase size of ug_group in user_groups table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11057 +comment (10Umherirrender) [21:49:53] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Albert%20Einstein%20Head.jpg&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=url [21:50:02] yeah, i see that [21:50:37] shifuimam: What API request are you making? Do you have an URL that I can test with? [21:50:38] From iiprop having url in it [21:50:46] yep i see that in the fucntion now [21:50:53] I mean, if that's all you need then great [21:51:06] marktraceur: i'm not sure what the whole API request is that is being made. this is in MW's own code [21:51:15] Ah. Hm. [21:51:17] i think i can piece together what it's including in the request [21:51:29] this is what i'm looking at: [21:51:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki/66724&path=#c33289 [21:51:35] New patchset: Kipcool; "+ Automatic determination of a label according to the inputted url + renamed some "$variable" as "variable"" [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLexicalData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45901 [21:51:35] the green changes in foreignAPIfile.php [21:51:49] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43480 [21:51:49] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43476 [21:51:55] but even that's changed from the bugged patch [21:52:10] New review: Pgehres; "Discussed IRL with Chris. I am going to follow this up with a patch that only returns something oth..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20922 [21:52:12] Change merged: Kipcool; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiLexicalData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45901 [21:52:54] New review: Wikinaut; "Ok. I admit, I was wrong. You added the input field for the login name - which was not editable befo..." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [21:53:19] here's the latest: https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/file/ForeignAPIFile.php?view=markup&pathrev=113441 [21:53:22] line 40 [21:53:44] https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/file/ForeignAPIFile.php?view=markup&pathrev=113441#l40 [21:53:59] didn't know i could do that :) [21:54:03] 73 static function getProps() { [21:54:03] 74 return 'timestamp|user|comment|url|size|sha1|metadata|mime'; [21:54:29] 03(mod) When used as a provider, if a user needs to login, then the extension should redirect to the login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40067 +patch-in-gerrit (10T. Gries) [21:55:16] Dereckson: are you around? [21:55:36] Dereckson seems very busy these days terrrydactyl [21:55:46] yeah, i haven't seen him around. :( [21:56:10] terrrydactyl: I also have work from him :( [21:56:31] terrrydactyl: Do you have an issue we can help with? [21:56:35] Reedy: so shouldn't think be including that data: http://wiki.guildwars.com/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Guild_Wars_Prophecies_logo.png&format=json&redirects=true&iiprop=timestamp|user|comment|url|size|sha1|metadata|mime [21:56:36] url etc. [21:56:40] harshkothari: You should ask questions too! :) [21:57:11] marktraceur: i'm wondering if my code works on other people's computer or if it's universally broken. i still can't get wfShellExec working right after i did an update to core. [21:57:18] marktraceur: Dereckson have to test the code .. can you test? [21:57:20] Hm. [21:57:21] which is super frustrating. :( [21:57:42] terrrydactyl, harshkothari, I could probably test both of your extensions (though I don't know what harshkothari is working on) [21:57:53] terrrydactyl: Are you testing master, or a new patch? [21:57:59] ah missing prop=imageinfo [21:58:04] marktraceur: I am working on TwitterCards [21:58:15] marktraceur: sorry, can you clarify that? [21:58:34] terrrydactyl: Is the change you're testing merged into the git repository? [21:58:42] marktraceur: http://github.com/harshkothari410/TwitterCards see this [21:58:50] harshkothari: Hm, I hesitate slightly [21:58:52] marktraceur: it should be merged. [21:58:54] Reedy: no image URL when it redirects to a non image [21:58:55] Lol, 1.16.5 [21:58:58] so that'd be at least part of the problem [21:59:05] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45084/ [21:59:08] marktraceur: why? [21:59:15] i got some comments on my patch and am working on it [21:59:23] there's still gotta be a way to get that URL from the APi though, even if it redirets [21:59:27] but i want to know if the functionality of the git clone works before i submit a new one. [21:59:47] shifuimam: Debugging on old versions of MediaWiki is somewhat pointless [21:59:56] harshkothari: I'm not a big cheerleader for Twitter :( [21:59:58] Reedy: well, this is the only wiki that mine links to [22:00:10] But we'll see what I can do, hold please [22:00:12] 03(mod) When used as a provider, if a user needs to login, then the extension should redirect to the login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40067 +comment (10T. Gries) [22:00:20] and its highly unlikely anet will ever update their version of mw [22:00:31] marktraceur: I want to test my extension by making some environment on wiki labs.. Like you have made for Ethereditor [22:00:53] okies ya ya got it. sucheta told me that thing marktraceur [22:00:54] harshkothari: You need to ask Ryan_Lane to create a project for you, I think [22:01:19] (though I haven't gone through that process lately, it may have changed, sorry Ryan_Lane if I've pinged you in vain) [22:01:21] Where's the redirect ot a none image? [22:01:53] Ryan_Lane: Hi [22:02:04] http://wiki.guildwars.com/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Cleave.jpg&format=json&redirects=true&iiprop=url&prop=imageinfo [22:02:16] and here's the image: http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=File:Cleave.jpg&redirect=no [22:02:32] marktraceur: since in free time I am also working on EtherEditor [22:02:40] shifuimam: It's not a redirect [22:02:47] It's only the description that redirects away [22:02:55] the image files itself are still on the original page [22:02:55] ? [22:02:56] harshkothari: Oh, I didn't know that! [22:03:17] harshkothari: EE actually isn't really on labs right now, I shut down the wiki due to spammers [22:03:22] not entirely sure i follow what you mean [22:04:19] marktraceur: ok.. I have seen yesterday thats why I asked you.. [22:05:01] btw in your description(wiki page) you made many doubt clear marktraceur [22:05:06] shifuimam: If you use the correct parameters... http://wiki.guildwars.com/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Guild_Wars_Prophecies_logo.png&format=json&redirects=true&iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime&prop=imageinfo [22:05:12] New patchset: Pgehres; "(bug 38082) Check read permissions in ApiFeedContribs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20922 [22:05:19] "url":"http:\/\/wiki.guildwars.com\/images\/6\/69\/Guild_Wars_Prophecies_logo.png" [22:05:27] harshkothari: How do you mean? [22:05:29] yeah, that one doesn't have a redirect on the image [22:05:47] an image that DOES have a redirect is File:Cleave.jpg [22:05:50] same url, different' file: [22:05:51] http://wiki.guildwars.com/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Cleave.jpg&format=json&redirects=true&iiprop=timestamp|user|comment|url|size|sha1|metadata|mime&prop=imageinfo [22:05:58] and with that file no URL is returned [22:06:03] marktraceur: other that Ryan_Lane who can help for making project on labs? [22:06:48] Uhm, maybe sumanah? But she's offline. One sec. [22:07:01] marktraceur: I and sucheta have certain doubt. but your explaination made them clear.. That is awesome [22:07:05] r66724 has nothing to do with what that api call showw [22:07:07] s [22:07:17] harshkothari: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started#Create_Projects [22:07:21] harshkothari: I'm glad! [22:07:33] someone else filed the bug when i was asking about it on this channel in december.. [22:07:40] harshkothari: I know it's been conceptually tough getting the first few patches, but I think it's getting there :) [22:07:57] so i don't know which change/patch actually caused this to start happening [22:08:03] 03(NEW) Update checkStorage.php to not use deprecated Revision::getText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44357 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [22:08:16] marktraceur: for understanding this huge amount of code certainly take time. [22:08:17] harshkothari: Wait, do you want to test TwitterCards or EtherEditor? [22:08:25] New review: Wikinaut; "Tyler, your patch looks good. Waiting for someone else to code review - it#s better." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [22:09:33] marktraceur: TwitterCards. for EtherEditor I am testing on localhost.. [22:09:35] New review: IAlex; "However they can do this with the API." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [22:09:44] harshkothari: i totally understand how overwhelming it is learning the codebase. i wanted to fix some bugs but it was so intimidating. [22:10:10] 03(NEW) Requesting a new mailing list for proposed Thematic organization: education in the US and Canada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44358 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; () [22:10:20] Reedy: if you take out the redirects parameter from the URL, it show sthe pageid and image title but no url [22:10:32] New review: Wikinaut; "Dear CSteipp, I kindly ask you to code review Tyler's patch. " [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [22:10:34] Indeed [22:10:43] But that's not the fault of r66724 [22:10:46] That's a "fault" of the api [22:10:46] hehe [22:10:59] well, crap. has the API never supported images that redirect to non-images? [22:11:01] You really should try it on commons or something where the code is up to date [22:11:06] I suspect not [22:11:08] terrrydactyl: Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. [22:11:12] It's a very weird use case [22:11:17] Because it doesn't really make sense [22:11:31] yeah well the geniuses who upkeep the guild wars wiki insist on redirecting nearly every single image on the site to a non-image page [22:11:53] [[File]] isn't going to ever display as a file [22:11:58] harshkothari: my bugs only seem to happen exclusively to me so it's even more complicated. :( [22:12:04] i'm using [[image]] [22:12:30] * Isarra pokes marktraceur. [22:12:36] Isarra: Howdy! [22:12:37] What's your name again? [22:12:42] Mark! [22:12:45] [22:12:48] Your other name. [22:12:48] e.g. [[image:Guild_Wars_Prophecies_logo.png]] on my own wiki does work properly [22:12:49] Holmquist :) [22:12:53] Oooh. [22:12:56] it embeds the image just fine [22:12:58] Isarra thought I was lying. [22:12:59] I DON'T LIE. [22:13:03] LOL [22:13:06] Yes you do. [22:13:07] Hi siebrand, bye siebrand. [22:13:10] Isarra: Prove it. [22:13:16] terrrydactyl: ohhh sometimes these bugs are frustrating [22:13:17] Susan: There are just all kinds of citations you could give to prove your point [22:13:22] marktraceur: In answer to the question I missed, I'm leaving now. [22:13:29] Ah k. [22:13:30] Like... well, I'm sitting in the airport. [22:13:36] Isarra: Have a pleasant flight! [22:13:38] Leaving leaving leaving... soon. [22:13:45] In, at, and on. [22:13:45] Thanks. [22:14:11] terrrydactyl: in software industry do you know other name of "BUG"? [22:14:11] Maaan. [22:14:15] terrrydactyl: Can I has a sample code snippet to test with? [22:15:12] i've been using this: {{#snippet:repository=https://github.com/terrrydactyl/GitRepoExtension.git}} [22:15:29] Parfait, merci [22:15:34] de nada! [22:15:44] terrrydactyl: It says "cloned a git repo" [22:15:49] :( [22:15:52] i don't get that. [22:15:54] siiiiiiigh [22:16:12] are you running on the latest version? i'm assuming you would be [22:16:21] so it might be something wrong with my configurations... [22:16:28] Yeah, I'm running on your patch that you linked [22:16:31] 03(NEW) User filter preference is not saved and throws warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44359 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; () [22:16:36] * Isarra hugs marktraceur, terrrydactyl, and TrevorParscal. [22:16:40] oh! can you check if the file exists? [22:16:45] * terrrydactyl hugs back! [22:17:08] * marktraceur is a bit bemused by the whole thing but goes with it [22:17:13] marktraceur, it should be in your temp folder [22:17:19] Reedy: who knows...i created a non-image redirect on my own wiki and it doesn't actually redirect [22:17:20] Hm, let me check [22:17:24] lol [22:17:28] it shows what it redirects to but doesn't force a redirect [22:17:35] 2 years is a long time in software [22:17:36] Isarra: have a good flight! [22:17:45] i'm running 1.20.0 btw [22:17:46] i know... [22:17:58] terrrydactyl: images/temp ? [22:18:02] TrevorParscal: *poke* can you recheck the one-pixel-images change? [22:18:11] Thanks, man. [22:18:13] so there's noething i can do to my own wiki - patching the code, that is - to get around this, is there [22:18:17] i fixed the silly mistake and did it a little differently [22:18:18] since the URL straight up isn't being provded [22:18:20] MatmaRex: Did you make that change? [22:18:21] marktraceur: i think it should just be in /tmp if you're running linux [22:18:24] Hm. [22:18:25] Is it shiny? [22:18:44] marktraceur: it should be a md5 hash folder [22:18:51] Isarra: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44825/ ? not really, it's kind of bland [22:18:55] Isarra: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44859/ is shiny, though [22:19:15] Reedy: well, i tried an API link on my own wiki, and it doesn't return the URL if the image redirects [22:19:15] terrrydactyl: you project make everyone puzzled [22:19:36] 03(mod) Long lived login token is invalidated when requested in another browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37244 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [22:20:12] harshkothari: well, the code is supposed to clone a git repo into a temp folder (for now, have to discuss storage later) and the url is hashed so that i can check if a repo has been cloned from a url already. [22:20:40] MatmaRex: This is very important. [22:20:45] Does it work in IE5? [22:21:09] New patchset: Parent5446; "Fixed broken loading session from Remember Me cookie." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45906 [22:21:09] New patchset: Parent5446; "Added geographic login restrictions." [mediawiki/extensions/SecureSessions] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44528 [22:21:16] * harshkothari is understanding terrrydactyl's code  [22:21:54] terrrydactyl: I see what's happening, but I'm not seeing it get saved in /tmp. Maybe the webserver has a different tmp directory. [22:22:30] terrrydactyl: I am forking and cloning your code [22:22:40] 03(NEW) Edit conflict handling is broken on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44360 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [22:22:41] Hm, no, it uses the same one. I don't understand. [22:22:41] I wonder how hard it would be to overhaul some of the visual styles of recently deployed extensions to actually match the skin... [22:22:43] marktraceur: hmm, what's the result of running sys_get_temp_dir() for you? [22:23:00] /tmp [22:23:05] marktraceur: maybe there's a deeper problem then.. [22:23:09] terrrydactyl: is it your starting code https://github.com/terrrydactyl/GitRepoExtension? [22:23:39] Might be. [22:23:42] harshkothari: that's a skeleton code that i got from someone else. [22:24:09] terrrydactyl: yeah saw it. where is your code [22:24:10] ? [22:24:14] marktraceur: have you worked with wfShellExec at all? [22:24:15] Isarra: most;ly :P feel free to test [22:25:07] terrrydactyl: Not really, no. Let me see if I can debug a bit. [22:25:10] harshkothari: i don't think i've set up a download link. not sure how to do that. [22:25:20] marktraceur: thank you. you're a godsend right now. [22:25:58] MatmaRex: With what? Is even XP that old? [22:26:21] terrrydactyl: Funny, I get a 128 return code [22:26:23] August 2001 [22:26:24] harshkothari: i think you can get it here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Git2Pages [22:26:26] Isarra: i think you'd need 98 [22:26:34] Isarra: XP comes with IE6 by default [22:26:39] marktraceur: with wfShellExec? [22:26:44] Isarra: or a standalone version, which would sorta kinda work, i guess [22:26:45] :P [22:26:55] Yup [22:26:56] "the value 128 is used to indicate failure to execute another program in a subprocess" [22:27:09] are you testing my code or just playing with the function? [22:27:59] Testing your code [22:28:08] But I'm coming at it from different sides [22:28:21] i had the error code 127 yesterday.. [22:28:32] downloaded terrrydactyl [22:29:15] there is no instruction how to run code terrrydactyl [22:29:24] i also have a broken debugging environment so when i got that 127 error, it was supposed to log something from the wfShellExec [22:30:25] New review: Wikinaut; "I am now working on this." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45554 [22:30:35] harshkothari: require_once("$IP/extensions/Git2Pages/Git2Pages.php"); in LocalSettings.php [22:30:59] Reedy: do you have a wiki you can test embed an image from mine? [22:31:16] * harshkothari adding new extension  [22:31:26] New review: Spage; "The new code works. My comments and questions are mostly unrelated to this change, sorry to add them..." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45728 [22:33:02] terrrydactyl: done... now? [22:34:21] 03(mod) create component for planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44332 +comment (10dzahn) [22:35:27] terrrydactyl: This is weird, I have almost no idea what's happening [22:36:46] marktraceur: :( you can imagine how i feel. i feel like i've fallen so behind on the extension, but i can't seem to find the problem. [22:37:03] * marktraceur tries a trivial command [22:39:11] without the redirect, the API is only returning the page ID, not the URL of the image [22:39:21] in fact it's not returning any imageinfo properties at all [22:40:07] New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 38082) Check read permissions in ApiFeedContribs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20922 [22:40:19] Anyone around who understands the obscure magic why Jenkins fails on seemingly irrelevant changes? [22:40:28] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-phpunit-misc/1736/? [22:42:17] New patchset: Victor Vasiliev; "(bug 43751) Allow '+' in MySQL database names." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44840 [22:42:38] marktraceur: there's something wrong with my implementation of wfShellExec.. if i just run php's shell_exec command with the same arguments, it works. [22:42:41] Let's see if this helps [22:43:04] vvv: you can also post a review with "recheck" in the body [22:43:15] marktraceur: the problem is, i can't tell if it's something i've done or something within the wfShellExec implementation.. [22:43:28] MatmaRex: rebasing will force it to re-run, right? [22:43:49] vvv: yeah, it works, too [22:43:52] vvv: and as far as i know htis is caused by tests timing out [22:44:12] but you might want to poke hashar about this when he's online [22:44:15] aka Antoine Musso [22:44:34] terrrydactyl: OK, I think I get it now [22:44:45] terrrydactyl: I've monkeyed around with the "limits" array, and now it seems like it works [22:44:57] terrrydactyl: Either time, memory, or filesize limits are getting exceeded [22:45:02] marktraceur: "limits" array? [22:45:10] marktraceur: ohhhhhh [22:45:16] terrrydactyl: Figure out a sane limit for each and implement it, I just set mine to some 10s of billions and it worked [22:45:29] marktraceur: where is this array? [22:45:59] * harshkothari coming back in few minutes [22:46:23] terrrydactyl: It's an argument to wfShellExec [22:46:48] marktraceur: ah okay. i'll look into it. :) thank you so much! i was really getting stuck. [22:47:01] Yup [22:47:16] ok so this bug has been patched very recently in the API. is that something that needs to be patched on the REMOTE wiki or the wiki that is trying to transclude stuff via the API? [22:47:30] New review: Wikinaut; "problems with break; and return;" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [22:47:42] 03(mod) Create web/wiki front-end for managing the Planet aggregators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27208 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:49:01] 03(mod) Create web/wiki front-end for managing the Planet aggregators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27208 (10Daniel Zahn) [22:49:44] shifuimam: If it's in the API.. it would be the remote that needs fixing [22:49:52] Reedy: yeah that's what i was afraid of [22:49:59] i doubt that wiki is ever going to be updated, let alone patched [22:50:15] Are you using many of their images? [22:50:21] Might be easier just to import them locally.. [22:50:26] oh no, i'm using a LOT of them [22:50:32] all the skill icons...and there are like 500 skills [22:50:50] is there any way to calculate the image file location based on what the API is providing? [22:51:23] Well, you can work it out fairly easily [22:51:29] lets find and example [22:51:54] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Albert_Einstein_Head.jpg [22:52:12] the d and the d3 are generated based on a hash of the filename [22:52:18] The rest of it is pretty static [22:52:18] ahh [22:52:35] So with the file name, getting to a target url should be pretty simple [22:53:03] looks like it's the first two letters of the MD5 hash [22:53:13] d3 in this case [22:53:26] 03(NEW) GettingStarted's tags need to be temporary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44361 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [22:53:36] i suppose it shouldn't be terribly hard to write a plugin to do that [22:53:50] 03(NEW) Batch page modification time querying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44362 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; () [22:53:53] or would there be a way to make the foreign file repo portion handle it [22:55:05] terrrydactyl: der? [22:55:48] harshkothari: join #wikimedia-labs [22:56:07] thanks Ryan_Lane [22:56:14] shifuimam: yup, exactly [22:56:16] Nothing complex [22:56:18] * harshkothari joining #wikimedia-labs [22:56:37] guess now it's time to learn how to write mediawiki extensions :) [22:59:07] New review: Victor Vasiliev; "I am restoring +2 which was put on this revision before I rebased it." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44840 [22:59:23] Oh wait [23:00:19] * shifuimam waits [23:00:34] 03(mod) Certificate security warning for https://en.planet.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33293 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [23:01:10] 03(mod) Certificate security warning for https://en.planet.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33293 +comment (10dzahn) [23:01:26] 03(mod) Certificate security warning for https://en.planet.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33293 (10Daniel Zahn) [23:01:35] lol wikibugs [23:01:51] why can't you handle two notifications with five seconds of difference in the same way [23:02:09] 03(mod) GettingStarted's tags need to be temporary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44361 normal->15enhancement (10Steven Walling) [23:02:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44840 [23:02:14] New review: Parent5446; "Good point." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45181 [23:07:59] 03(mod) GettingStarted's tags need to be temporary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44361 +comment (10mflaschen) [23:12:23] 03(mod) ForeignAPIRepo should ignore file redirects to non-file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42610 +comment (10shifuimam) [23:14:30] Reedy: i think i'm going to have to try and patch my MW for this. i'm mostly transcluding content from the other wiki [23:14:38] so i can't cahnge how images are linked in the original wiki [23:14:48] 03(mod) Fix GuidedTour i18n approach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43144 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:15:17] shifuimam: You might be able to get away with fixing it easily by creating a subclass of the foreign repo, and override the URL functionality [23:15:45] yeah, i'm trying to figure out where it pulls the URL of the image [23:15:47] It'll be quicker too if you don't make the remote call [23:17:07] 03(mod) Separate out externals so we can collaborate with the community - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43226 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:17:12] getThumbUrl() is probably what you want.. [23:18:42] is that pulling the url of the image regardless of size? [23:18:45] e..g the full size as well as thumnails [23:19:40] 03(mod) Create ability to remove tags from edits / actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18670 (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:19:40] 03(mod) GettingStarted's tags need to be temporary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44361 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:20:19] 03(mod) Add unit tests for GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43654 +comment (10mflaschen) [23:20:33] time for dinner here...i'll have to look at this when i get back [23:20:43] tyvm for the tips. i'll see what i can get out of getThumbUrl() [23:21:52] 03(NEW) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [23:22:11] 03(mod) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:23:12] 03(mod) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 +comment (10swalling) [23:25:16] 03(mod) GettingStarted's tags need to be temporary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44361 +comment (10b) [23:26:29] 03(mod) Create ability to remove tags from edits / actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18670 +comment (10b) [23:31:28] 03(mod) Edit conflict handling is broken on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44360 normal->major; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:32:38] 03(mod) Edit conflict handling is broken on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44360 +comment (10b) [23:32:49] terrrydactyl: Any luck? [23:33:15] marktraceur: i'm trying to figure out what a reasonable size for a git repo is.. [23:33:37] 03(mod) Create ability to remove tags from edits / actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18670 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [23:34:20] terrrydactyl: define 'reasonable'. mw/core is about 150 MB when cloned. [23:34:43] terrrydactyl: and i've heard of people running into slowness issues with git because of the repo size. [23:34:49] it's also got a fucktonne of history [23:36:00] 03(mod) Certificate security warning for https://en.planet.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33293 +comment (10aklapper) [23:36:36] MatmaRex: i've never thought of git repo sizes so i'm looking into it. i think reasonable would be able to hit most repositories.. i'd imagine that the people using the extension might want to pull snippets from something like the linux kernel repo [23:37:24] linux kernel would probably be a few hundred megabytes, but i never checked [23:37:32] though i suppose it's not super critical. just need to test if it works with a reasonable large file limit [23:37:48] if we're talking personal projects, i think few would exceed 5 MB, even [23:37:49] https://git.kernel.org/ [23:37:52] 498 repos [23:38:10] the largest personal repo of mine if 748 K right now ;) [23:38:28] * harshkothari agree with MatmaRex [23:39:09] actually, no, i have a bigger one, 2.5 MB [23:39:13] i wonder why it's so huge. [23:39:23] Images, probably [23:39:44] terrrydactyl: http://dpaste.org/mianz/ this is your current code? [23:39:45] none i know of. [23:40:05] ah [23:40:14] i included a binary in version control. silly.me. [23:40:22] harshkothari: yes , but it doesn't work right now [23:40:38] * MatmaRex slaps self [23:40:52] GCC is 600MB, and that's from an archive, not a git repo [23:41:22] Ah, MediaWiki's git repo is 800+MB [23:41:51] terrrydactyl: I assume we'll make this configurable, but you could probably set a limit in the double-digit MBs [23:41:57] 03(mod) Certificate security warning for https://en.planet.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33293 +comment (10dzahn) [23:42:00] marktraceur: dont give such a huge number .. terrrydactyl will scare [23:42:22] Heh. [23:42:22] marktraceur: okay, i'll just mess around with it. i can always ask Dereckson for advice when he resurfaces. [23:42:26] Indeed [23:42:54] 03(mod) "action-openid-converter-access" and "action-openid-dashboard-access" message doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44356 +comment (10T. Gries) [23:43:05] New review: Pgehres; "I seem to not be able to +1, let alone +2, so:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/20922 [23:43:12] terrrydactyl: I got output "cloned a git repo" [23:43:25] marktraceur: 800 MB? huh? even with extensions it's not that big [23:43:27] harshkothari: The git repo is currently a lie [23:43:45] MatmaRex: Actually I may be counting it with a bunch of images and things, let me try a fresh clone [23:43:52] marktraceur: unless you include some ops things, i don't know [23:43:59] marktraceur: what's the last time you ran `git gc`? :P [23:44:13] MatmaRex: That's not important [23:44:16] means marktraceur? [23:44:23] MatmaRex: Fresh clone says "592MB" [23:44:33] i was talking about the size of .git directory [23:44:37] harshkothari: It says it's checked out a repo, but it didn't [23:44:48] and it's 176 MB for me on mw.core [23:44:50] mw/core* [23:45:00] hmmm okies ... marktraceur [23:45:03] Hm. [23:45:20] and i have a few branches fetched locally as well [23:45:38] mine is 290 mb marktraceur and MatmaRex [23:45:44] in php can you run something like this? $cmd = 'git clone ' . wfEscapeShellArg( $url ) . ' ' . $wgGit2PagesDataDir . DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR . md [23:45:47] * marktraceur tries git gc [23:45:55] not 100% if strings work this way. [23:46:01] Ah, wow [23:46:08] From 500+ MB to 133 [23:46:18] marktraceur: this quick? magic [23:46:19] :D [23:46:23] i want your ssds [23:46:25] ;_; [23:46:32] lol [23:46:34] ha ha ha MatmaRex.. [23:46:35] SSD!!! :) [23:46:45] MatmaRex: I've got 2 spare sat in my office.. [23:46:46] ;) [23:46:57] I have to pee. [23:47:06] Reedy: fedex them? :P git gc takes about 5-10 minutes for me [23:48:47] 03(mod) Our *.wikimedia.org cert doesn't properly cover https://pa.us.wikimedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38763 +comment (10dzahn) [23:48:56] MatmaRex: it takes 1 to 1 and half minute for me. [23:49:08] terrrydactyl: are you telling me? [23:49:26] terrrydactyl: "in php can you run something like this? $cmd = 'git clone ' . wfEscapeShellArg( $url ) . ' ' . $wgGit2PagesDataDir . DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR . md" this one? [23:49:40] just a general question [23:50:57] marktraceur: i forgot that i seem to have a problem with wfShellExec in general and not just with the file limits. [23:51:52] terrrydactyl: where is this cloned repo saved? [23:52:07] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "(bug 44044) Check for existence of the timeout script in ulimit5.sh" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45898 [23:52:17] New review: Wikinaut; "ok, I see, this break / return construct is intended. And your answer is what I expected." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42757 [23:53:14] * terrrydactyl is running some tests. will be back in a sec [23:54:38] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[ExternalStore] Refactored external store classes to use a base class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45521 [23:56:52] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Use SCIDs to reference schema." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45748 [23:58:00] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45748 [23:59:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Fixed var that accidentally got renamed" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45911