[00:10:32] <techman224>	 From array_map( array( $this, 'listMergedWikiItem' ), $list ) ), I don't understand  the "array( $this, 'listMergedWikiItem' )"
[00:12:04] <RoanKattouw>	 techman224: In PHP, when you have to pass a callback, you can pass 'nameOfGlobalFunction' to call a global function, or array( $object, 'nameOfMethod' ) to call an object method
[00:12:25] <RoanKattouw>	 So the statement you copied means "apply $this->listMergedWikiItem() to every element of $list"
[00:12:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46640
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46637
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46636
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46635
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46634
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46633
[00:12:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46555
[00:18:47] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, I replaced "array( $this, 'listMergedWikiItem' )" with just $this->listMergedWikiItem(), but it didn't work
[00:18:59] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: is there a good collection of sample lua script you test with?
[00:19:16] <^demon>	 I run the tests in the scribunto extension.
[00:19:21] <^demon>	 A larger test suite would be nice.
[00:19:59] <RoanKattouw>	 techman224: No that doesn't work
[00:20:23] <RoanKattouw>	 techman224: The syntax you quoted initially is correct syntax, I was just explaining what it does
[00:21:23] <RoanKattouw>	 $newArr = array_map( array( $this, 'foo' ), $oldArr ); is roughly equivalent to $newArr = array(); foreach ( $oldArr as $oldElem ) { $newArr[] = $this->foo( $oldElem ); }
[00:21:25] <RoanKattouw>	 Does that clarify?
[00:24:00] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: what about when you manually test?
[00:24:20] <^demon>	 I've written a few snippets locally.
[00:24:27] <^demon>	 I don't really have a collection of good scripts.
[00:27:04] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, when I called another array as a parameter, you call two items, the $object and the name of the method, but how do they link together?
[00:27:31] <techman224>	 They should be two separate things
[00:27:40] <RoanKattouw>	 What do you mean by "how do they link together"?
[00:27:49] <Jasper_Deng>	 techman224: are you talking about hooks?
[00:28:06] <RoanKattouw>	 Jasper_Deng: Callback param to array_map()
[00:30:23] <RoanKattouw>	 techman224: Did you mean, given an array that looks like array( $obj, 'methodname' ), how do I get PHP to call $obj->methodname() for me?
[00:30:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 there's a method for that
[00:30:54] <Jasper_Deng>	 it's on the hooks page on mw.org
[00:31:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 (built in to PHP)
[00:31:03] <RoanKattouw>	 Cause if so, the answer is http://php.net/call-user-func
[00:31:18] <Jasper_Deng>	 ^^
[00:32:09] <techman224>	 call_user_func was not called though
[00:32:26] <RoanKattouw>	 array_map() has its own built-in stuff that does the same
[00:33:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  (10Legoktm)
[00:34:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  (10Jasper Deng)
[00:35:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  (10Legoktm)
[00:41:13] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, are you saying that when you use array( $obj, 'methodname' ), that php has $obj->methodname() built in?
[00:44:10] <RoanKattouw>	 No, I'm saying that there is built-in functionality in PHP that, when you give it an array that looks like array( $obj, 'methodname' ) , will call $obj->methodname() for you
[00:44:23] <RoanKattouw>	 array_map() uses that internally, and you can use it via call_user_func()
[00:44:32] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: what does "as well as PHP" mean in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto#LuaSandbox ?
[00:44:49] <RoanKattouw>	 You would still have to create $obj and write a method for it
[00:44:56] <^demon>	 AaronSchulz: php-dev, probably.
[00:45:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  +comment (10Legoktm)
[00:45:04] <^demon>	 You need to be able to phpize and such.
[00:45:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[00:45:41] <duh>	 Heh
[00:45:42] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: guess I already did that
[00:45:53] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: No package 'luajit' found
[00:46:10] <AaronSchulz>	 that's the problem (after installing luajit)
[00:46:14] * AaronSchulz  double checks stuff

[00:46:19] <^demon>	 luajit-dev?
[00:46:43] <^demon>	 I dunno. I built on osx.
[00:47:38] <AaronSchulz>	 ^demon: did you use http://luajit.org/install.html ?
[00:47:57] <^demon>	 No, some brew packages.
[00:48:15] <^demon>	 I had lua and luajit.
[00:49:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Recursively validate events." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46656
[00:49:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "JSON-relational mapping. You saw it here first." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46657
[00:49:33] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, where is array( $obj, 'methodname' ) built in to $obj->methodname()?
[00:49:59] <RoanKattouw>	 It's not. It's syntax to express that you want $obj->methodname() to be called
[00:50:27] <TimStarling>	 ^demon: I think there's an open bug for OSX support
[00:50:46] <^demon>	 It works well enough to run tests on osx, with the expected timer failures.
[00:51:29] <TimStarling>	 maybe this is Aaron's problem? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43819
[00:52:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:JavaScriptTest/qunit doesn't fail broken ResourceLoader modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44488  +comment (10krinklemail)
[00:52:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Only log from tours on request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44489 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; ()
[00:53:35] <AaronSchulz>	 gah, error: 'LUAI_MAXCALLS' undeclared (first use in this function)
[00:53:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary parse error $1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44459  +comment (10Krenair)
[00:53:51] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, From what i see, array( $this, 'listMergedWikiItem' ), contains $this class, and a string called listMergedWikiItem
[00:54:11] <techman224>	 It does not call methods
[00:54:20] <RoanKattouw>	 That's right
[00:54:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should not refer to password reset e-mails as reminders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44486  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[00:54:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638  (10Andre Klapper)
[00:54:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Account creation interface should not be using helvetica/arial when the rest of the skin does not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44394  +comment (10tparscal)
[00:54:41] <RoanKattouw>	 But when you pass it to certain built-in PHP functions, those PHP functions will use the information in that array to call the method
[00:54:51] <RoanKattouw>	 array_map() is one of the functions that has that behavior
[00:54:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search autocomplete incorrectly fills search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24706  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[00:55:35] <techman224>	 I don't see it in http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-map.php
[00:55:38] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: the older version works
[00:56:17] <TimStarling>	 it's easy enough to fix though
[00:56:27] <blazer003>	 I'm trying to add links in my photo description that link to an existing wikipedia page.
[00:56:49] <blazer003>	 However, when I choose the link to existing wiki page option under links, only a very limited amount of pages are returned.
[00:57:22] <blazer003>	 It seems to omit pages I know to exist.  In this instance I tried to link it to the existing page for "Astoria, Oregon
[00:57:59] <blazer003>	 But I didn't get past "Astor" before it told me that no such page existed.
[00:58:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) fatalmonitor is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44485  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[00:59:46] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, both array_may() and call_user_func() have a callback parameter
[01:00:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes
[01:02:13] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: so is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Deployment_priorities the main list?
[01:02:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "fix development status classifiers" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46659
[01:03:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Consolidate user tool links into a popover or dropdown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44448  (10James Forrester)
[01:03:58] <TimStarling>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Tim%27s_draft_roadmap
[01:04:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46659
[01:04:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46659
[01:04:16] <TimStarling>	 not Deployment_priorities
[01:04:33] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, I'm starting to see it, a callback is a Pseudo-type
[01:05:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "Bug 43819: Fix LuaJIT compatibility (LUAI_MAXCALLS)" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46660
[01:05:47] <TimStarling>	 AaronSchulz: can you test that?
[01:05:52] <AaronSchulz>	 heh, a natural first thing I suppose
[01:06:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46656
[01:08:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 44486) Rephrase password reset messages to remove 'reminder' language" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46661
[01:11:08] <RoanKattouw>	 techman224: Yes
[01:13:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should not refer to password reset e-mails as reminders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44486   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Krenair)
[01:14:03] <Susan>	 TimStarling: Has there been any further thought about global (Wikimedia-wide) Lua modules? I saw that Chad poked at using Git, but then that was dropped.
[01:14:28] <techman224>	 RoanKattouw, thanks for helping understand :)
[01:14:35] <TimStarling>	 we're going to deploy it first
[01:14:45] <Susan>	 Blergh.
[01:14:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Current version of LuaSandbox is incompatible with LuaJIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43819  +comment (10tstarling)
[01:15:25] <Susan>	 Well, I think that's a mistake, but I needn't beat a dead horse.
[01:16:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 33304) Fix ApiQueryAllPages and old indef protections" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46662
[01:16:31] <Susan>	 There's an open question here, if you're interested: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39610#c8
[01:19:52] <^demon>	 Susan: That's probably the general "Extension versions don't show up properly" bug.
[01:19:55] <Susan>	 It's become a real pain in the ass to debug shit around here.
[01:20:03] <Susan>	 Between RL and a lack of versioning.
[01:20:28] <Susan>	 I never know what version is running of VE or Scribunto.
[01:20:40] <Susan>	 And when I try to delve into page source for JS issues, it's a fucking maze.
[01:20:45] <Susan>	 Not to vent or anything.
[01:20:59] <^demon>	 Or ParserFunctions, or Cite. It's an issue with scap syncing out the correct .git/* crap or not.
[01:21:22] <Susan>	 Right, but ParserFunctions and Cite haven't changed much since like 2008.
[01:21:26] <Susan>	 VE changes daily.
[01:21:34] <Susan>	 Though I understand it's not a confined issue.
[01:21:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; ()
[01:21:43] <Susan>	 I'm a little confused how that's supposed to make me feel better. ;-)
[01:22:11] <AaronSchulz>	 TimStarling: I had to git clean -f -x to repro, ok now I can actually test that
[01:22:23] <^demon>	 Susan: Well, you can rest assured it's not a conspiracy to hide versions from Scribunto and VE ;-)
[01:22:38] <Susan>	 RL is a separate issue.
[01:22:53] <Susan>	 I hope minification is really cutting those server costs, because Jesus it's annoying.
[01:22:56] * AaronSchulz  was leaving out the -x

[01:24:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Works for me." [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46660
[01:24:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46660
[01:25:15] <TimStarling>	 preserving line breaks would increase the file size by like 1%
[01:25:48] <TimStarling>	 and what percentage of the hosting budget do you suppose goes on sending JS files?
[01:25:52] * AaronSchulz  never was sold on that

[01:26:46] <TimStarling>	 not a per object cost, so you can't count varnish CPU or anything like that
[01:26:48] <TimStarling>	 just network cost
[01:26:49] <RoanKattouw>	 Susan: Do you know about ?debug=true ?
[01:27:36] <TimStarling>	 RoanKattouw: you get different versions of all the files that way, and any bug involving the module loading system goes away because debug=true doesn't have a module loader
[01:27:48] <Susan>	 RoanKattouw: I do. Does anyone else?
[01:28:00] <Susan>	 There's a huge lack of discoverability.
[01:28:16] <Susan>	 Honestly, minification harms the open Web.
[01:28:53] <Susan>	 In the case of huge sites, it may make sense.
[01:29:10] <^demon>	 I wonder if anyone's ever profiled resourceloader on a default install w/o any caching.
[01:29:19] * ^demon  hasn't, honestly wondering

[01:29:35] <Susan>	 There were a number of complaints when 1.17 was introduced about performance degradation.
[01:29:41] <Susan>	 I'm not sure if those were resolved in future versions.
[01:29:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "add empty test suite directory" [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46664
[01:30:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: preilly; "Skipping code review (self merging to master)." [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46664
[01:30:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46664
[01:31:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/SearchShards results in an HTTP 500 error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44491 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[01:32:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/SearchShards results in an HTTP 500 error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44491  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[01:32:33] <YairRand>	 Does anyone know offhand what Mediawiki message, if any, sets the contents of the title tag on the main page?
[01:32:55] <bawolff>	 there is one
[01:35:49] <TimStarling>	 pagetitle
[01:35:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Current version of LuaSandbox is incompatible with LuaJIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43819  (10Aaron Schulz)
[01:35:49] <bawolff>	 YairRand: Pagetitle-view-mainpage
[01:35:49] <YairRand>	 bawolff: thanks
[01:35:49] <Dantman>	 ^demon: We should try improving the browser caching a bit more... I don't see any timestamp in the url that would make long Expires: a possibility.
[01:35:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "(bug 33304) Fix ApiQueryAllPages duplicate rows in protection query" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46665
[01:35:50] <Susan>	 TimStarling: Would you make me an admin there? http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Special:UserRights/MZMcBride
[01:36:07] <Susan>	 Rob H. cleaned house.
[01:38:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirect File: page directly to Wikimedia Commons in case file is streamed from there - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[01:39:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error in fatalmonitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44485  summary (10Krinkle)
[01:40:04] <bawolff>	 lol at that bug name
[01:43:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistencies in how lists of protected pages are found via API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33304  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[01:43:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Make jquery.client recognize Iceweasel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46666
[01:45:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  normal->04CRIT (10Sage Ross)
[01:48:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable $wgBlockDisablesLogin for wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44473  (10jeremyb)
[01:48:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  (10jeremyb)
[01:50:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:JavaScriptTest/qunit doesn't fail broken ResourceLoader modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44488  (10spage)
[01:50:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commons iOS app needs detail dialog to input title, description, categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44435  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[01:51:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage is not localizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44492 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; ()
[01:53:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "Needs unit tests. Fine other wise." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46666
[02:00:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Catrope; "Make jquery.client recognize Iceweasel" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46666
[02:03:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage is a content message, should be user language msg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44492   +easy; summary; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[02:15:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request to host openzim.org wiki at the WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44465  +comment (10erik)
[02:31:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fixup some old badly built SQL queries" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46195
[02:31:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request to host openzim.org wiki at the WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44465  (10MZMcBride)
[02:37:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error in fatalmonitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44485  04CRIT->normal (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:41:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support OpenID extension on all wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9604  (10T. Gries)
[02:41:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) OpenID: when logging in as "Name" with wiki/Special:OpenIDServer/id , the OpenID should be restamped to wiki/User:Name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44416  (10T. Gries)
[02:45:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Adamw; "widget to jam globalcollect history files into the db" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46488
[02:58:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[02:59:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  +comment (10hazard_sj)
[03:00:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[03:08:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove translation administrator privileges on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44395  (10Roan Kattouw)
[03:21:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Try harder to validate link protocols in tokenizer, and support $wgUrlProtocols - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44449  (10James Forrester)
[03:25:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[03:26:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42847  +comment (10James Forrester)
[03:26:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42847  (10James Forrester)
[03:39:48] <techman224>	 I need to find where blocks options are handled
[03:39:59] <Susan>	 What do you mean?
[03:40:28] <techman224>	 Like a way to get a user's block options
[03:40:36] <techman224>	 anon only, auto block etc
[03:44:30] <bawolff>	 ipblocks table?
[03:44:41] <techman224>	 bawolff, yes
[03:44:59] <bawolff>	 or do you mean where in the php code is it deal with?
[03:45:13] <bawolff>	 which would presumably be the block class
[03:45:22] <bawolff>	 and a tiny bit in the User class
[03:50:09] <techman224>	 Here what I want, the block options formatted like it would in the logs
[03:57:14] <bawolff>	 hmm, I think that's just done in SpecialBlock::blockLogFlags, and then gets sticked into a blocklogentry message, but I'm not 100% sure
[03:57:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SRF\DataTables (DataTables 1.9.4) implemented as SMWAPI Printer" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46650
[03:59:35] <techman224>	 bawolff, I need to get the flags from an already blocked user
[04:01:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Makebot; ()
[04:03:12] <bawolff>	 Why not just take it directly out of the logs. log_params is usually formatted as either json or a serialized php array (can't remember if we got rid of the array format, i think we did)
[04:03:23] <Susan>	 Makebot?
[04:04:06] <techman224>	 bawolff, I need the current block options only
[04:04:18] <Susan>	 You have to wonder what was going through his mind when he chose "MediaWiki extensions" and then "Makebot."
[04:05:43] <bawolff>	 Use the last log entry (I think each entry has the current version. Don't know off the top of my head). Otherwise, use the block class to load a block object, and then use its methods to test for each option, and create the list manually
[04:07:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[04:10:28] <superm401>	 In server-side code, what's the best way to tell if the request was for a preview?
[04:11:04] <bawolff>	 superm401: depends on where in the server side code. If you have a parser object handy, you should look in the ParserOptions
[04:11:33] <superm401>	 bawolff, onBeforePageDisplay.  It will be one factor in adding a module.
[04:12:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  +comment (10Legoktm)
[04:16:01] <bawolff>	 superm401: hmm, you could maybe look at request variables (Something similar to OutputPage::userCanPreview, or even just call that method) but i'm not sure what the best way to do that is
[04:16:30] <bawolff>	 You could also add the module to all edit pages, and detect on the js side if the page is a preview
[04:16:48] <superm401>	 bawolff, rather not do the latter for perf.
[04:17:12] <superm401>	 Yeah, spagewmf suggested the same thing (the clear approach of action==submit && wpPreview).
[04:17:24] <superm401>	 I just wanted to see if there's a isPreview hidden somewhere.
[04:17:27] <superm401>	 Thank you, though.
[04:18:06] <bawolff>	 Of course there could always be a magic isPreview I just don't know about :)
[04:18:34] <superm401>	 bawolff, well, no one else even chimed in.
[04:18:37] <superm401>	 So good enough for now. :)
[04:19:31] <bawolff>	 Anyone have any idea how I might be able to associate a bug number (or even revision number ) of a php bug, to what version the bug is fixed in?
[04:20:12] <bawolff>	 specificly wondering about https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54561
[04:20:15] <superm401>	 Yeah, git branch --contains
[04:20:26] <superm401>	 Oh, thought you meant MW.  Does PHP use git now?
[04:20:26] <Susan>	 PHP uses git?
[04:20:40] <bawolff>	 I think so
[04:20:41] <bawolff>	 I have a git checkout
[04:20:48] <bawolff>	 the bug report i'm looking at says svn
[04:20:52] <Susan>	 Right.
[04:21:20] <bawolff>	 oh wait, php has a NEWS file listing fixes for each version
[04:21:22] <bawolff>	 d'oh ;)
[04:21:57] <superm401>	 Susan, it is git now, though. http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git
[04:22:03] <superm401>	 bawolff, if the release notes don't work, let me know.
[04:22:25] <superm401>	 You can grep through the commit messages and go from there.
[04:22:30] <bawolff>	 I found it, its php 5.3.7
[04:23:06] <bawolff>	 the git branch --contains thing is cool looking (the result was only master though)
[04:29:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  +comment (10My76Strat)
[04:31:38] <superm401>	 bawolff, maybe they don't cut branches (just tag).
[04:31:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Style JSON Schema on preview." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46674
[04:31:59] <bawolff>	 maybe, in any case I found the version number I was looking for
[04:36:01] <Susan>	 Bugzilla seems down.
[04:36:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Santhosh; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46623
[04:38:25] <Jasper_Deng>	 Susan: yep, -operations is showing problems w/ kaulen
[04:38:36] <Susan>	 Gay.
[04:43:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "Works as advertised with FF10, IE9, and C10." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 2 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46650
[04:44:12] <bawolff>	 Does Kaulen host gerrit too? because git review does not seem to be working for me...
[04:44:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brian Wolff; "(bug 43801) add getters for intl and ICU version to ICUCollation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44733
[04:44:57] <RoanKattouw>	 No, Gerrit is on manganese
[04:45:01] <bawolff>	 oh works now
[04:45:18] <bawolff>	 probably the internet I'm stealing is just crappy
[04:49:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brian Wolff; "I added a code comment documenting at what version of php this constant started working." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44733
[05:00:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brian Wolff; "(bug 43804) fix docs in generateCollationData.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[05:01:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brian Wolff; "Some nitpicks about the error message." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[05:07:03] <techman224>	 I'm still stuck on getting the block options for a currently blocked user
[05:07:53] <techman224>	 I'm trying to get the block options directly from the database, then formatting it like a log entry
[05:09:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Starling; "Regarding static functions in MWServer:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46475
[05:10:13] <techman224>	 I'm trying to display the block options under SpecialCentralAuth::formatBlockStatus
[05:15:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Starling; "What testing did you do?" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45941
[05:42:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Spage; "C'mon Jenkins, do your thang." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[05:44:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Starling; "In SecurePoll, command line scripts go in the cli directory and include cli.inc." [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45696
[05:45:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Spage; "remove obsolete schemas and functions" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[05:46:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Spage; "I only changed the commit message to get Jenkins to show up." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[05:47:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Starling; "(bug 43529) Hide private data after election" [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45697
[05:47:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45697
[05:50:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "No, look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46203/3..4/experiments/openTask.js ." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master); V: 0 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[05:58:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Spage; "remove obsolete schemas and functions" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[06:00:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mattflaschen; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46203
[06:09:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow to create multiple accounts for en-Wikipedia workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44472  +comment (10nsbelavate)
[06:12:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Starling; "Rebase fails." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[06:18:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "add index to image table to query by type" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35139
[06:19:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Implement lc, lcfirst, uc, and ucfirst magic words in jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44495 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[06:19:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement lc, lcfirst, uc, and ucfirst magic words in jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44495  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[06:21:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Starling; "See inline comment. Otherwise fine." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44832
[06:29:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) JS GroupSelector language on Special:Translate should match PHP side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42675  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[06:36:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support OpenID extension on all wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9604  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[06:37:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Error in ApiSetReference and/or ApiSetReferenceTest and/or support libs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44496 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[06:44:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: J; "transcodes might be a bit long but can not think of another name, will push patch with "transcodes" ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45102
[06:47:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use latest GettingStarted wording." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[06:49:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "Bug 43343 add zone "transcodes" for audio/video" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45102
[07:05:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "Bug 43343 store derivatives in "transcodes" zone" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45101
[07:06:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Simplify and remove jargon from protection level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44497 normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; ()
[07:08:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use latest GettingStarted wording." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[07:18:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Template in table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44498 normal; VisualEditor: User Interface; ()
[07:26:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Rfaulk; "Add. log_deploys() functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46678
[07:28:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Skip the first step if they are editing." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46679
[07:36:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Steven marked this done on Trello, so presumably it's working (it has been for me) consistently." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46491
[07:37:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46491
[07:38:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Works! Awesome, thanks." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46674
[07:38:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46674
[07:42:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Ensure accurate placement of tooltips pointing to page elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44091  +comment (10mflaschen)
[07:56:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "i18n review" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[08:14:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add configuration field (default true) for showing tooltip." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[08:16:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "To use the new field on WMF servers, we'll add it to wmf-config." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[08:23:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Search integration in message table" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46683
[08:30:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirect File: page directly to Wikimedia Commons in case file is streamed from there - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  +comment (10garbage5)
[08:32:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirect File: page directly to Wikimedia Commons in case file is streamed from there - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  +comment (10garbage5)
[08:35:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirect File: page directly to Wikimedia Commons in case file is streamed from there - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  +comment (10garbage5)
[08:37:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add configuration field (default true) for showing tooltip." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[08:37:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch set 2 fixes the comment." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[08:38:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Transclude categories and annotations of files from shared repository to local File: page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  summary (10Jan Kucera (Kozuch))
[08:39:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Transclude categories and annotations of files from shared repository to local File: page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  (10Jan Kucera (Kozuch))
[08:39:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show categorization on shared repository on local file page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18752  (10Jan Kucera (Kozuch))
[08:39:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mirror Commons annotation to Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38786  (10Jan Kucera (Kozuch))
[08:40:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Consistency tweaks in description message" [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46685
[08:41:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "Display markers on leaflet maps (in the development)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[08:45:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add configuration field (default true) for showing tooltip." [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[08:47:38] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46679
[08:48:59] <hashar>	 ah guidedtour
[08:49:19] <hashar>	 we have sooo many extensions
[08:49:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Pastakhov; "Add 'Done' comments." [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[08:50:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Pastakhov; "Add 'done' comments" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[08:51:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Pastakhov; "Thanks for review" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[08:55:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[09:01:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement first version of simple transclusion syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43998  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[09:01:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "I'm sorry: I merged before giving Matt a chance to comment and deliberate on Raimond's comments. Ple..." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[09:10:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Default entry point for Jenkins tests" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46688
[09:11:15] <hashar>	 ori-l: I have added a default PHP entry point to E3Experiments extension : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46688/
[09:11:20] <hashar>	 ori-l: not sure how bad it is for ya
[09:12:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46688
[09:12:42] <ori-l>	 hashar: yeah, stupid mistake on my part; I had just gotten started w/MediaWiki development.
[09:13:11] <ori-l>	 thanks for the patch.
[09:13:14] <hashar>	 ori-l: not much of a trouble
[09:24:37] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; ()
[09:25:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  (10Peter Bena)
[09:25:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  +comment (10benapetr)
[09:25:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  normal->04BLOCKER (10Peter Bena)
[09:26:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add special page to the "media" section on Special:SpecialPages" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46689
[09:32:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10Peter Bena)
[09:32:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add special page to the "users" section on Special:SpecialPages" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46699
[09:34:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46700
[09:39:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "support for SQLite" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46701
[09:40:18] <petan>	 @seen ^demon
[09:40:18] <wm-bot>	 petan: Last time I saw ^demon they were quitting the network with reason: Remote host closed the connection N/A at 1/30/2013 2:36:10 AM (07:04:08.2262870 ago)
[09:41:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "Then we have to adapt the sql patches:" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46701
[09:43:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46700
[09:44:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46702
[09:44:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46702
[09:45:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46704
[09:48:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46705
[09:48:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46706
[09:49:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46707
[09:49:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46708
[09:50:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46709
[09:56:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Delete flapping tests; declare 'medium' test group." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46710
[09:59:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Make translatewiki.net's {{Identical}} work" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46711
[10:00:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Amire80; "Mingle task: https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/internationalization/cards/2339 ." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46711
[10:04:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46713
[10:04:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46714
[10:05:05] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) #ask queries ignore format= directives - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44500 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticResultFormats; ()
[10:06:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pathological amount of DB queries, and redundant DB queries, on some custom templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39519  +comment (10patrick.lauer)
[10:06:51] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46714
[10:06:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/SecurePoll] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46713
[10:06:59] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46709
[10:07:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46708
[10:07:07] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46707
[10:07:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46706
[10:07:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/GoogleCustomWikiSearch] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46705
[10:07:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46704
[10:08:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "Display markers on leaflet maps (in the development)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[10:12:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Delete flapping tests; declare 'medium' test group." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46710
[10:13:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable tooltip pointing to MoodBar (for now) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44482   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Steven Walling)
[10:13:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:15:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Transclude categories and annotations of files from shared repository to local File: page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44471  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:20:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46710
[10:23:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins job validation (DO NOT SUBMIT)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46717
[10:23:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46717
[10:23:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[10:26:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Log userNotShownCAPTCHA client-side" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43200
[10:29:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Drop yet another flapping test" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46719
[10:30:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Why are we doing this in JS when we have a search backend?" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46683
[10:32:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Correct event binding and update api.parse call" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46720
[10:35:01] <Nikerabbit>	 gerrit down..
[10:35:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Amire80; "Correct event binding and update api.parse call" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46720
[10:36:07] <hashar>	 Nikerabbit: works for me :-D
[10:37:03] <Nikerabbit>	 hashar: probably was restarting again
[10:37:11] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) description should be shown in the search results in repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44501 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[10:43:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "Display markers on leaflet maps (in the development)" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[10:52:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:Log type=liquidthreads display zero results when target is an IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44502 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; ()
[10:52:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  (10Hydra)
[10:54:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Make the inline editor functional" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46723
[11:04:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "backport --max-time patch for wikibase dispatching changes" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46724
[11:04:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  +comment (10hydra)
[11:05:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aude; "This can be merged and deployed anytime.  " [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46724
[11:12:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Remove an outdated FIXME" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46725
[11:13:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) problems with 0 as a label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43585  +comment (10Stryn)
[11:13:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Have Android app build on every push, rather than be triggered manually - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44503 normal; Commons App: General; ()
[11:17:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:24:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  +comment (10aklapper)
[11:27:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simple English Wiktionary's sidebar is not what is on MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44493  +comment (10hydra)
[11:33:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "Revert "Revert "[GuidedTour] Ignore messages for now"""" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46728
[11:34:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Raimond Spekking; "will commit a fresh patch set" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46728
[11:35:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) problems with 0 as a label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43585  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[11:37:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[GuidedTour] Remove ignored messages" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46729
[11:38:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46729
[11:39:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Better way for extensions to add to ParserOutput." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[11:41:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "rebased" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[11:46:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44989
[11:46:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matthias Mullie; "I have +2'ed, but have not yet merged, so you feel free to revert the change in patch set 2 before m..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44989
[11:46:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Better way for extensions to add to ParserOutput." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[11:46:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Daniel Kinzler; "improved documentation" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[11:50:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Fix syntax error from Ibfce8dda" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46730
[11:50:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46730
[11:57:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Syntax error fixed with I27d77d52" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46677
[12:11:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) MediaWiki message with tracking category and <includeonly> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44504 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[12:12:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deployment of Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38975  (10mybugs.mail)
[12:17:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-core-regression-phpcs should not check extensions / language files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44249  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:18:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-core-regression-phpcs should not check extensions / language files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44249  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:19:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45117
[12:21:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) CAPTCHA module is activated by <references/> tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44505 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[12:21:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CAPTCHA module is activated by <references/> tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44505  (10Strainu)
[12:28:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) get python-tox backported on Precise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44443  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:29:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Santhosh; "Get workflow state related information from APIs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46505
[12:31:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Database functions should type cast values automaticaly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26139  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:33:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [OPS] IRC bots process need nagios monitoring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26784  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:34:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wgLogo should be globally Wiki.png - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26993  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:37:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) test special pages SQL queries against supported Open Source DB (sqlite, mysql, pgsql) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32118  normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:38:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Turkish needs lc / uc methods - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33643  normal->15enhancement; summary (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:41:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update GeoData to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46735
[12:41:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Minangkabau - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44462  +comment (10Ramzy Muliawan)
[12:41:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[12:43:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[12:43:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) glusterfs log files are not rotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41104  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:44:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130  +comment (10mr.heat)
[12:45:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Update GeoData to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46736
[12:45:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "SMWAPI Serializer add namespace information" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46737
[12:45:47] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46735
[12:47:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf7) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46736
[12:48:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) prevents Jenkins from conflicting on release note files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37942  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:53:02] <lbenedix>	 hi
[12:53:27] <lbenedix>	 my mediawiki is sending X-Frame-Options:DENY as a Header and i have no idea why... any suggestions?
[12:54:26] <MaxSem>	 lbenedix, to prevent everyone from stealing your users' passwords
[12:54:44] <lbenedix>	 its not on every page
[12:56:13] <lbenedix>	 is it possible to overwrite that for a specialpage?
[12:58:03] <lbenedix>	 what i want is sending POST-data to that specialpage into a frame
[12:59:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins test (adding a BOM)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46739
[13:01:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins: fail on BOM in submitted files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38233  +comment (10hashar)
[13:02:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46739
[13:05:55] <lbenedix>	 is there a better way to handle post-data in my extension?
[13:07:34] <Nikerabbit>	 doesn't ajax request work?
[13:07:49] <Nikerabbit>	 or rather, use the WebAPI if possible
[13:08:14] <Nikerabbit>	 frame breaking is done for security reasons
[13:11:16] <lbenedix>	 ahh... i remember why i wanted a frame... i had an file-upload in the form... now when this is gone i can do it with ajax
[13:13:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "Well, one could do:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46737
[13:17:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680  +comment (10maic274)
[13:21:48] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[13:22:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506   +shell (10Tomer A.)
[13:25:16] <Lockal>	 hi, is it possible to add my own module for Special:Preferences? In theory I could modify 'resources/mediawiki.special/mediawiki.special.preferences.js', but modifying mediawiki itself is not a good way for me
[13:33:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127  +comment (10dasch)
[13:33:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:35:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[13:36:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:37:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Minangkabau - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44462  (10Andre Klapper)
[13:39:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:41:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CAPTCHA module is activated by <references/> tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44505  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[13:43:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki message with tracking category and <includeonly> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44504  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:44:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[13:47:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki message with tracking category and <includeonly> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44504  +comment (10jan.dudik)
[13:54:34] <sumanah>	 mitevam: hi there
[13:55:23] <mitevam>	 hi sumanah 
[13:55:32] <mitevam>	 sumanah: how are you 
[13:55:36] <sumanah>	 mitevam: how are YOU feeling!!
[13:55:38] <sumanah>	 I'm fine
[13:55:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745  (10Runa Bhattacharjee)
[13:56:08] <TheAvatar>	 Hello - I am trying to use VisualEditor, but in Parsoid it says the API requires logged-in access. It wont work for this Wiki. How do I work around that? I guess anonymous API access would work, but I'd rather log in to the API. Anybody that can help me out from here?
[13:56:52] <mitevam>	 sumanah: I'm fine but they will probably keep me here for a while 
[13:57:01] <mitevam>	 sumanah: at least I have some internet now 
[13:57:11] <sumanah>	 hey TheAvatar - I don't know the answer but I can tell you that most of the people who work on Parsoid or VE are not awake yet - they will be in within the next 4 hours probably
[13:57:16] <sumanah>	 mitevam: are you feeling comfortable?
[13:58:08] <sumanah>	 I saw that about 2 hours ago you sent a note to mediawiki-enterprise
[14:00:09] <sumanah>	 mitevam: I want to scope down what we have been planning for you to do in the next, say, week
[14:00:22] <sumanah>	 to give you more ability to rest (if you want)
[14:00:23] <mitevam>	 sumanah: yes I am comfortable, in bed with IV on most of the time but fine otherwise, I tried to catch up on email a little bit
[14:00:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:01:53] <Rtdwivedi>	 Hi. I had a little doubt regarding bug fixing culture on MediaWiki.
[14:01:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[14:01:59] <mitevam>	 sumanah: yes it will probably have to be the case while I'm here as there is always something going on and a doctor I need to meet or something, I hope I will know tomorrow how long its gonna be for
[14:02:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[14:02:12] <TheAvatar>	 sumanah, okay, thanks - I'll see if I can fit that in
[14:02:42] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: hi! sure, go ahead and ask your question (and just so you know, "doubt" has the wrong connotations for what you mean to ask, in international English)
[14:03:03] <Rtdwivedi>	 On any bug report there are a few comments by developers which I prefer to read as they help in understanding how to fix it.
[14:03:40] <Rtdwivedi>	 But sometimes the comments conflict with each other, while some would want it to be implemented others would not.
[14:04:14] <Rtdwivedi>	 So how do I decide which way I must use to conform to MediaWiki coding norms?
[14:04:15] <sumanah>	 mitevam: you're probably waiting on me on some questions to be answered, in email. am I right?
[14:04:23] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: You can always ask in a comment in the bug.
[14:04:49] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: Or here, in IRC.
[14:05:11] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: thanks!
[14:05:20] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: can you give an example of one of the bug reports you're looking at, where there does not seem to be consensus in the comments?
[14:05:24] <mitevam>	 sumanah: yes you promised me an email last time we talked  :)
[14:05:40] <mitevam>	 sumanah; sorry need to go for 5 minutes, brb 
[14:05:44] <sumanah>	 no prob.
[14:07:01] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39389 .
[14:07:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[14:08:24] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: also, read http://webchick.net/embrace-the-chaos
[14:08:49] <sumanah>	 it's about Drupal but it applies reasonably well to MediaWiki development as well
[14:09:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Adding references (consisting of one Snak only) to an existing Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43291  (10Daniel Werner)
[14:09:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Removal of References - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43293  (10Daniel Werner)
[14:09:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Log type=liquidthreads display zero results when target is an IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44502  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:09:15] <mitevam>	 sumanah: i am back 
[14:09:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292  (10Daniel Werner)
[14:09:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Simplify and remove jargon from protection level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44497  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:09:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:10:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "LocalSettings.php" is inside a plain-text <code></code> wrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44475  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:11:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage is a content message, should be user language msg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44492  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:13:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Removal of References - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43293  +comment (10daniel.werner)
[14:14:09] <TheAvatar>	 Uh - how about these Language: en da etc bars. How do I make them? Does it require some additional setup or? On mediawiki.org there's some extra functions at the bottom when editing.
[14:14:54] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: i will try to conform to MediaWiki development. It was a nice read.
[14:15:20] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: :-) Glad you enjoyed reading it.  
[14:15:49] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: also check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API/Tutorial which has a video
[14:15:55] <Rtdwivedi>	 I had one more question.
[14:16:20] <sumanah>	 Go ahead!
[14:16:37] <Rtdwivedi>	 I had applied for outreach program for women but did not get selected. I still want to contribute to the code.
[14:17:02] <Rtdwivedi>	 Is it possible to watch the repository of the project I had chosen.
[14:17:25] <Rtdwivedi>	 Just to chip in a few commits.
[14:17:51] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: OF COURSE YOU CAN COMMIT AND WATCH
[14:17:58] <sumanah>	 THIS IS OPEN SOURCE
[14:17:59] <sumanah>	 ANYONE CAN JUST DROP IN!!!!!
[14:18:09] <sumanah>	 you don't need to ask permission!
[14:18:32] <sumanah>	 http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/2429/can-doubt-sometimes-mean-question might be helpful to you, by the way
[14:18:50] <sumanah>	 regarding the word "doubt"
[14:19:46] <sumanah>	 please do not wait for permission to watch repositories, put changesets into Gerrit, comment on bugs, edit the wiki, etc.
[14:19:48] <sumanah>	 be bold!!
[14:20:08] <Rtdwivedi>	 thanks. :-)
[14:21:01] <sumanah>	 So, to watch a repository, you go into your Gerrit preferences -- do you know where those are?
[14:21:15] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/
[14:22:49] <Rtdwivedi>	 yes, i got the projects list. 
[14:26:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit conflict detection for claims still having some issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44101  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[14:31:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "style: fix up commas in function arguments" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46753
[14:31:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "style: normalize end of files" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46754
[14:34:29] <sumanah>	 hi sucheta, how are you?
[14:34:38] <sumanah>	 mitevam: I am working on a monster email to you
[14:34:53] <sumanah>	 mitevam: real quick: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2012-13_Goals#Milestones_by_quarter_14 especially the configuration database
[14:36:30] <sumanah>	 by the way, did I ever make you read Karl Fogel's "Producing Open Source Software" mitevam ?  http://producingoss.com/  If I didn't, it's okay, you don't have to start now, but it's something to keep in mind in case you have days when you can't really write anything but you can read
[14:37:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit conflict detection for claims still having some issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44101  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[14:38:21] <sucheta>	 sumanah, Hey I am better now. I have been having a terrible internet connection for some days now. Fought with the service providers so much. 
[14:38:40] * Nikerabbit  eyes sumanah's CAPS

[14:38:45] <mitevam>	 ok sumanah waiting for that, I am working on a quick blog post meanwhile 
[14:38:50] <sumanah>	 cool
[14:39:09] <sumanah>	 sucheta: who's the provider? AirTel? BSNL? Other?
[14:40:13] <sucheta>	 sumanah, Reliance. They said they are having some 'technical difficulties' with my number. 
[14:40:23] <sumanah>	 arrrgh.
[14:40:52] <sumanah>	 that must have been annoying.  I'm curious -- when someone absolutely positively needs a reliable internet connection in your area, what do they do?
[14:43:01] <sucheta>	 And to get this weird answer, which did not help at all. I had to fight with them for two days. One customer care executive would make me talk to some other weird person and this would go on. Finally they would hang up the phone. 
[14:46:24] <sucheta>	 sumanah, Reliance is pretty reliable I thought. Speed and all are fine. Else I had a BSNL connection, whose server would be down in every alternate days. And also, wifi didn't used to work during power-cuts. Which are much common over here.  
[14:47:18] <sumanah>	 So, if someone really needs a connection, what do they do? Have 2 or 3 providers and just hope that they all don't go down at the same time?
[14:47:52] <Rtdwivedi>	 sucheta: try MTS
[14:48:39] <sucheta>	 Rtdwivedi, MTS is good? I never tried it 
[14:49:17] <sucheta>	 sumanah, Now I have. Learned my lesson. :( 
[14:49:40] <Rtdwivedi>	 yep. When I stay in Durgapur, W.B. I use it. 
[14:50:04] <mitevam>	 sumanah: what about onfiguration database did you want me to look at? There is not much on that page
[14:50:11] <sucheta>	 Rtdwivedi, You are from DGP? wow :D
[14:50:51] <Rtdwivedi>	 yeah :)
[14:51:15] <sucheta>	 Rtdwivedi, And a bengali too? 
[14:51:20] <Rtdwivedi>	 I am currently in Roorkee (college). 
[14:51:55] <sucheta>	 I see. Which project are you working on? :) 
[14:51:58] <Rtdwivedi>	 pseudo-bengali
[14:52:14] <Rtdwivedi>	 Just fixing some bugs.
[14:52:21] <sucheta>	 Ah, nice 
[14:52:50] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: is Rtdwivedi your username on Gerrit & mediawiki.org as well?
[14:53:00] <sumanah>	 mitevam: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Configuration_database has more info although it is not complete
[14:53:12] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: yes
[14:53:26] <sumanah>	 mitevam: I just wanted you to see that there are plans in the current fiscal year to make the configuration database
[14:56:23] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: Google has not announced whether they will be running Google Summer of Code 2013 but we predict that they will and we predict that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013
[14:56:35] <sumanah>	 we predict that MediaWiki will participate
[14:58:03] <Rtdwivedi>	 cool. I'll add my name.
[14:58:39] <Rtdwivedi>	 I have to leave for dinner. See you later.
[14:58:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki message with tracking category and <includeonly> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44504  (10Andre Klapper)
[15:00:05] <sumanah>	 mitevam: email sent!
[15:05:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:09:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46195
[15:14:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Fix LuaStandalone nil handling" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46475
[15:14:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) grammatical error(s) in message MediaWiki:Permissionserrors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44507 trivial; MediaWiki: Interface; ()
[15:14:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "misc style issues" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46760
[15:15:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MZMcBride; "This looks good to me. Thanks for working on this, Alex." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46661
[15:17:09] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: Morning! Did someone help you with Parsoid?
[15:17:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Anomie; "PS3: Address comments." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46475
[15:17:30] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: Currently we don't support APIs that require read access, but there's a bug and everything
[15:25:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Adding references (consisting of one Snak only) to an existing Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43291  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:27:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127  +comment (10bjorsch)
[15:28:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Editing existing references (consisting of one Snak only) of a Statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43292  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:29:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Removal of References - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43293  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:30:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ReferencedEntitiesFinder::findClaimLinks should consider Statement's references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44440  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:33:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ReferencedEntitiesFinder::findClaimLinks should consider Statement's references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44440  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:33:28] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Pastakhov; [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[15:33:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Save-button should stay disabled until added statement is valid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42997  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:34:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] Save-button should stay disabled until added statement is valid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42997  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:35:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Translatewiki.net message synchronization broken (only Engl. available in both client and lib) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44337  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:36:22] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: If you wanted to play with fixing the bug, it should be *possible* if not trivial. You may need to add a way for the API to accept authentication headers. I'm not sure of the best way, currently.
[15:36:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement Diff:ToArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44288  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:38:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to remove translation administrator privileges on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44395  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:39:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blue link to "Previous pages" for categories though there are none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12060  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:40:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:41:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please temporary lift the IP cap in fr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44506  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[15:43:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki message with tracking category and <includeonly> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44504  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[15:43:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add references entities to page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44287  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:43:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: J; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46689
[15:47:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Uncaught TypeError: Object #<Object> has no method 'isAnon' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44051  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:48:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary parse error $1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44459  (10Krenair)
[15:48:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "add major_mime to query to use index" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42749
[15:50:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: J; "Cleanup Firefogg integration" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39035
[15:52:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46699
[15:52:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mdale; "Add support for audio derivatives" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39363
[15:56:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) AddTermSearchKey.sql fails on sqlite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42688  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:58:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) FlaggedRevs: Call to undefined method PageStabilityProtectForm::setReason() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44468  (10Andre Klapper)
[15:58:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make AbuseFilter aware of different content models. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42064  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:58:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Failure to install Math Extension / TeX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44469  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:59:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sort "What links here" by most recent linking action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44466  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[16:00:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45500
[16:01:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deployment of Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38975  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:03:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39035
[16:06:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Coalesce change events before injecting them into the recentchanges table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42189  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:06:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mdale; "Add support for audio derivatives" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39363
[16:09:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mdale; "Add support for audio derivatives" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39363
[16:09:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Clicking on save with invalid value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44291  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:11:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) id-xor-wikititle error message confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44207  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:12:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) id-xor-wikititle error message confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44207  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:16:27] <Krenair>	 Does jeblad use IRC?
[16:16:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a time datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44000  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:20:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:20:16] <Reedy>	 Krenair: yeah
[16:20:34] <Krenair>	 what's his username?
[16:20:49] <Reedy>	 He's online in #wikimedia-wikidata
[16:21:00] <Reedy>	 Jeblad_WMDE
[16:21:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikibaseClient: array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, boolean given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43978  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:21:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Switch EducationProgram pages to ContentHandler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43975  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:21:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:22:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikibaseClient: array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, boolean given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43978  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:22:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508 critical; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[16:22:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[16:22:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:22:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:23:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[16:23:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:25:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10ragesoss)
[16:27:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialPage for setting aliases in non-JS UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43871  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[16:27:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialPage for setting aliases in non-JS UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43871  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[16:27:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "Actually I checked the outputs, this seems fine." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44632
[16:28:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44632
[16:28:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialPage for setting description in non-JS UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43872  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[16:28:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialPage for setting aliases in non-JS UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43871  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:29:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialPage for setting description in non-JS UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43872  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:30:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434  +comment (10sam)
[16:31:19] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44633
[16:31:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[16:32:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Pastakhov; "fix phpunit LeafletTest" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46777
[16:32:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Article Feedback Tool difficult to use for screen reader users do to use of non-standard form controls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33081  +comment (10Liz Henry)
[16:33:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 44490) Prevent fatal error when making a redirect to an education page" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46778
[16:33:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[16:33:45] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44634
[16:34:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10ragesoss)
[16:36:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46777
[16:37:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:EducationProgram times out when not cached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42923  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[16:37:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Only log edits by students enrolled in a course - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43880  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:37:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Add myself as reviewer" button is grayed out on cached course pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43875  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:38:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Personal tools "Courses" link to Special:MyCourses should appear for instructors, students and volunteers by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43709  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:38:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:MyCourses should include Planned as well as Current courses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43707  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:38:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No default is selected for language in the "Adding course" interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43785  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:38:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434  +comment (10federicoleva)
[16:38:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove the entry field for "real name" when students enroll in a course - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43885  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:38:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Courses and other lists of courses should show both Current and Planned by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43947  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[16:39:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:EducationProgram times out when not cached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42923  +comment (10ragesoss)
[16:41:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) text entered for a student article should be reformatted if it's the url of the article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44397  summary (10Sage Ross)
[16:41:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[16:42:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redirects to Education Program: pages results in fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44490  +comment (10ragesoss)
[16:46:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) notification about missing rights comes too late when creating a new property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44509 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[16:47:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "Can you rebase this onto master? I don't want to touch Iaefe3870..." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44643
[16:50:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "JSHint: Write some things in dot notation instead" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46781
[16:53:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Failure to install Math Extension / TeX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44469  +comment (10steve)
[16:57:39] <yurik>	 MaxSem: is geo stuff life? would love to see it
[16:58:01] <MaxSem>	 yurik, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby
[16:58:30] <MaxSem>	 well, it was live for more than a month, it simply was experimental
[16:58:43] <yurik>	 wow MaxSem , it gave me a list of my friends nearby! I didn't know we are turning into facebook!
[16:59:12] <yurik>	 actually its blank :(
[16:59:25] <yurik>	 will try on my phone
[17:00:49] <MaxSem>	 yeah, there is a bug with it on desktop vrowsers
[17:07:43] <lbenedix>	 what is the right way to adress a specialpage in php? is there something like mw.util.wikiGetlink('Special:Foobar')?
[17:08:11] <Dantman>	 For now that seems about right
[17:08:28] <lbenedix>	 mw.util.... is javascript
[17:09:30] <lbenedix>	 ./Special:Foobar is not working because sometimes the links are /index.php?title=
[17:09:54] <Dantman>	 ..of course
[17:10:19] <lbenedix>	 i dont want to set the link with javascript
[17:10:21] <Dantman>	 You should never use relative urls anywhere in MW... except for css.
[17:10:51] <lbenedix>	 and how do i get the url for a specialpage in php?\
[17:11:02] <Dantman>	 ...system/skin/ext stylesheets that is. Site styles should be absolute too.
[17:11:22] <lbenedix>	 i dont want to link to a stylesheet
[17:11:41] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Get the title with SpecialPage::getTitleFor( '...' )
[17:12:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "Thanks." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44733
[17:12:48] <yurik>	 MaxSem: moblie also showed blank, and didn't ask for location permissions
[17:12:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "others" (in Credits) points to invalid link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44160  +comment (10das.abhshk)
[17:13:06] <MaxSem>	 will poke Jon about it today
[17:13:42] <Aric_>	 why would only one of my pages give the error:
[17:13:44] <Aric_>	 Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.  Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.  (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) (localhost))
[17:14:17] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Actually `(new mw.Title( 'Foobar', -1 )).getUrl();` might be better.
[17:14:17] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46528
[17:14:38] <Aric_>	 I thought the page might be too big but it is only ~150kb (and i have a larger page that does work)
[17:15:12] <lbenedix>	 Dantman: mw.Title... is Javascript, isnt it?
[17:15:22] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Yes
[17:15:44] <lbenedix>	 Dantman: but i want to get the URL to a Specialpage with php
[17:16:05] <Dantman>	 Aric_: The database could be offline or getting too many requests.
[17:16:17] <lbenedix>	 Dantman: in JS there is mw.util.wikiGetlink('Special:Foobar')
[17:16:51] <Aric_>	 Dantman: the rest of the wiki works fine
[17:17:03] <Aric_>	 and i can browse around and every time i go to a specific page it does that
[17:17:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "I think your inline comments somehow got lost, or at least I don't see them. Maybe you left them on ..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[17:17:52] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: You started talking about js, got confusing... As js goes `(new mw.Title( 'Foobar', -1 )).getUrl();` is actually better than `mw.util.wikiGetlink('Special:Foobar')`
[17:18:06] <lbenedix>	 i'll be back in 30min
[17:18:16] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: For php use `SpecialPage::getTitleFor( '...' )->getFullURL();`
[17:18:55] <lbenedix>	 thx
[17:19:08] <Dantman>	 ...we need to add the alias/i18n handling for special pages to JS.
[17:20:32] <Reedy>	 Special:...
[17:24:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) properties in references are not linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44510 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[17:24:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Fix package.loaded and other cleanups" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45601
[17:24:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Lua module support functions" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46289
[17:24:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[17:24:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.uri module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46478
[17:24:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Lua ustring implementation" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013
[17:25:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cancel Button saves text, Publish Button does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42198  -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[17:26:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "Looks like jenkins helpfully merged this anyway. Both solutions are fine with me, and the current on..." [mediawiki/extensions/WikiEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44989
[17:28:11] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Installer aborts on outdated sqlite module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44511 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; ()
[17:29:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Skip test that required SQLStore3 when not using SQLStore3" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46786
[17:30:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 45 SMW tests failing due to table 'sandwiki.unittest_smw_prop_stats' doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44305  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:30:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "Ignore 'Auth' directory generated by make" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45334
[17:47:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434  +comment (10dcduring)
[17:51:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Have option for noreferrer on external links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44512 enhancement; MediaWiki: Parser; ()
[17:51:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129  (10silke.meyer)
[17:54:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aude; "Backport --max-time patch for wikibase dispatching changes" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46724
[17:55:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[17:57:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Have option for noreferrer on external links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44512  (10Daniel Friesen)
[17:57:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Have Android app build on every push, rather than be triggered manually - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44503  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[18:01:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 43786) Fix query error when there no orgs to select on" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46789
[18:04:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 44512) Config for adding rel="noreferrer" to external links." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46790
[18:04:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:StudentActivity gives internal error: "Fatal exception of type MWException" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43786  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:05:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Have option for noreferrer on external links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44512   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[18:08:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) admins who are not campus/online volunteers should not be able to create Ambassador profiles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44322  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:13:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "JSHint: Too many var statements" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44643
[18:13:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "rebased :)" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44643
[18:13:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 44322) admins who are not campus/online volunteers should not be able to create Ambassador profiles" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46791
[18:14:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) admins who are not campus/online volunteers should not be able to create Ambassador profiles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44322  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[18:14:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Hashar; "JSHint: unescaped square brackets in regex" [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44635
[18:14:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Maps not loading at all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44224  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:14:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hashar; "I guess we want to carefully verify that code path still works properly." [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44635
[18:15:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 43861) Move description field below title and name fields." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43473
[18:15:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "bug 43882: replace menu by customizable header on course pages" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43573
[18:18:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move "Description" section to the top of course pages, and remove its title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43860  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:19:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127  +comment (10matma.rex)
[18:24:52] <harshkothari>	 techfiz: Hello
[18:25:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46720
[18:25:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brian Wolff; "Huh. Yay for gerrit usability.  I think I got them saved to ps 5 now." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[18:27:57] <techfiz>	 harshkothari: hey... 
[18:28:14] <harshkothari>	 techfiz: Good to see you in mediawiki :)
[18:31:31] <techfiz>	 harshkothari: Thank you. Looking forward to all possible collaborations!
[18:32:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 44512) Config for adding rel="noreferrer" to external links." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46790
[18:34:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 44512) Config for adding rel="noreferrer" to external links." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46790
[18:34:31] <harshkothari>	 techfiz: yeah sure
[18:35:48] <harshkothari>	 techlife: take a look here http://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/સભ્ય:Harsh4101991/sandbox
[18:35:57] <Isarra>	 Is there any way to populate/update old-format logging params to new?
[18:36:04] <Isarra>	 Would that be possible?
[18:36:21] <YuviPanda>	 Isarra: print them all out, and hire a bunch of Indians to type it back in
[18:36:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Parent5446; "A quick note. I do *not* agree/disagree with the actual usage of this on enwiki (or any other WMF wi..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46790
[18:36:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Have option for noreferrer on external links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44512  +comment (10tylerromeo)
[18:36:49] <Isarra>	 YuviPanda: Would that work?
[18:36:59] <YuviPanda>	 given enough Indians, yes
[18:37:51] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Sounds like Web 0.2
[18:37:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) deleteAllData does not clear wb_changes_dispatch table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44513 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:39:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) properties in references are not linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44510  (10Daniel Werner)
[18:39:46] <harshkothari>	 If there is any way to create a form on wikipage?
[18:40:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46781
[18:41:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "(bug 42204) Creating or editing an ambassador profile prompts "leave page" warning" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46793
[18:41:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Creating or editing an ambassador profile prompts "leave page" warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42204  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[18:43:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Course_description does not preload as the Description for new courses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44006  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[18:44:09] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) tracking bug for deployment on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44514 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[18:44:12] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) tracking bug for deployment on all Wikipedias (except hu, he, it, en) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44515 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[18:44:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deployment of Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38975  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[18:45:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deployment of Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38975  (10Lydia Pintscher)
[18:46:44] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Client fails hard if sites table is not populated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44516 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[18:46:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Refactor AFT backend" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46797
[18:48:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: CSteipp; "(bug 14862) WIP - Global user renaming" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171
[18:50:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Rfaulk; "Add. log_deploys() functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46678
[18:51:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: CSteipp; "This might be the wrong way to go about this, but it seems like it's working for me. Hope that helps..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171
[18:53:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  +comment (10rlane32)
[18:56:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Can't test right now but should improve things." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46786
[18:56:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Getting Could not acquire 'labswiki:messages:en:status' lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44499  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[18:56:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) memcache on labsconsole.wikimedia.org craps out pretty often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42127  +comment (10rlane32)
[18:57:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tracking bug for deployment on all Wikipedias (except hu, he, it, en) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44515  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:57:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:57:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tracking bug for deployment on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44514  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:57:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:57:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) memcache on labsconsole.wikimedia.org craps out pretty often - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42127  +comment (10rlane32)
[18:58:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable rollbacker and patroller groups, change days and edits for the Autoconfirmed group, and the sysop group have the ability of grant patroller and rollbacker permissions on eswikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44285  +comment (10master_carlos11)
[18:59:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable rollbacker and patroller groups, change days and edits for the Autoconfirmed group, and the sysop group have the ability of grant patroller and rollbacker permissions on eswikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44285  (10Carlos Mora (White Master King))
[19:00:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enabling import source on eswikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43863  +comment (10Carlos Mora (White Master King))
[19:00:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Rfaulk; "Add. log_deploys() functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46800
[19:00:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 43801) add a getter for ICU version to ICUCollation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44733
[19:00:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Matmarex; "(bug 43804) fix docs in generateCollationData.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[19:01:13] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46800
[19:01:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) properties in references are not linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44510  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[19:01:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "Updated per comment and rebased." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44734
[19:01:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) properties in references are not linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44510  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[19:01:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) properties in references are not linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44510  +comment (10wikidata-bugs)
[19:02:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "I got rid of the other getter." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44733
[19:04:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use <a> instead of <button> for "Compare selected versions" on HistoryAction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16165  (10Isarra)
[19:05:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Rfaulk; "Fix. PEP-8 compliance." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46801
[19:06:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46801
[19:07:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commons iOS app needs a way to cancel uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44432  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[19:07:12] <lbenedix>	 Dantman: is there a way to get a User-Page-URL like SpecialPage::getTitleFor( Foobar' )->getFullURL()?
[19:07:22] <lbenedix>	 UserPage:: ?
[19:07:53] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Title::makeTitleSafe( 'Username', NS_USER );
[19:08:12] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Though you can also use a user object with $user->getUserPage()
[19:09:41] <lbenedix>	 Title::makeTitleSafe( 'Lbenedix', NS_USER ); seems not to work
[19:11:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46724
[19:11:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Aaron Schulz; ""transcode" might be better since non of the others are plural" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45102
[19:12:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use <a> instead of <button> for "Compare selected versions" on HistoryAction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16165  (10Daniel Friesen)
[19:12:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "This works but will slow down initial request by preloading data that is only needed when the editor..." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46723
[19:13:28] <daemon>	 hey all I am using email to vberify that users actually exist (on signup)
[19:13:32] <daemon>	 however thge From field is saying
[19:13:50] <daemon>	 From: wiki@wikimedia.org,
[19:13:52] <daemon>	 where do I change that
[19:13:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: preilly; "Add. log_deploys() functionality." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46678
[19:14:02] <Dantman>	 lbenedix: Sorry, got mixed up with newFromText's arg order it's Title::makeTitleSafe( NS_USER, 'Lbenedix' );
[19:14:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46678
[19:14:21] <sumanah>	 daemon: hi - the from field when email gets sent from your installation?
[19:14:37] <daemon>	 sumanah, yep try a sign up here http://wiki.hashweb.org
[19:14:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46725
[19:14:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[19:14:43] <daemon>	 you will get an email from From: wiki@wikimedia.org, 
[19:14:53] <lbenedix>	 thx
[19:14:57] <daemon>	 where it should be from mediawiki@hashweb.org
[19:15:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Anomie; "PS9:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[19:15:19] <^demon>	 !wg PasswordSender | daemon
[19:15:19] <wm-bot>	 daemon: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPasswordSender
[19:15:25] <daemon>	 ah thank you
[19:15:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[19:15:45] <sumanah>	 also daemon you should get on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce if you are not already
[19:16:02] <daemon>	 sumanah, ok dokey; any particular reason
[19:16:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Looks good but didn't test." [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46505
[19:16:23] <Krenair>	 You're running an old version of MediaWiki.
[19:16:27] <sumanah>	 daemon: to know when there are security updates
[19:16:31] <daemon>	 oh
[19:16:49] <sumanah>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Why_upgrade.3F daemon 
[19:16:58] <Krenair>	 You're on 1.19.1
[19:17:03] <Krenair>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-August/000119.html - 1.19.2
[19:17:07] <Krenair>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-November/000122.html - 1.19.3
[19:17:23] <daemon>	 oh
[19:17:26] <daemon>	 time for a little update then
[19:18:20] <Denny_WMDE>	 oh got confused, daemon != ^demon
[19:18:43] <sumanah>	 ^demon: any corrections to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Ops,_2011-2013 are welcome
[19:19:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[19:20:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Reedy; "Fix double colons in api help output" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46805
[19:22:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Bsitu; [mediawiki/extensions/MoodBar] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46682
[19:24:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ArticleFeedback has hundreds of unaddressed internationalisation issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42881  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[19:25:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ArticleFeedback has hundreds of unaddressed internationalisation issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42881   +patch-in-gerrit (10MZMcBride)
[19:27:25] <yurik>	 a, darn, just found out about FOSDEM, would have been good to talk to wikidata people about API integration
[19:27:44] * yurik  wonders if it would still be possible to make it there :)

[19:27:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10Danny B.)
[19:28:06] <sumanah>	 yurik: they're always in #wikimedia-wikidata
[19:28:12] <sumanah>	 and the wikidata mailing list as well
[19:28:25] <sumanah>	 you should try coming to the Amsterdam hackathon if you can wait till May
[19:28:37] * yurik  is looking for a sponsor :)

[19:28:48] <yurik>	 sumanah: could even do both really
[19:28:57] * sumanah  nods

[19:28:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[19:29:16] <yurik>	 i can totally wait, its just that wikidata is coming online more and more, and it will be harder to integrate with wikidata later :(
[19:29:22] <sumanah>	 yeah
[19:29:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ArticleFeedback has hundreds of unaddressed internationalisation issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42881  +comment (10federicoleva)
[19:29:47] <yurik>	 my visit to WM office was a huge help with regards to how content API should be developed
[19:30:09] <sumanah>	 yurik: see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_01_25#Events
[19:30:17] <yurik>	 a few minutes of talk with several people was way better than all dev reading
[19:30:17] <Denny_WMDE>	 yurik: why would it be harder to integrate later?
[19:30:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 we're around :)
[19:30:31] <Denny_WMDE>	 best to come to #wikimedia-wikidata 
[19:30:37] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: changing API once people start using it is always harder than doing it seamless from the start
[19:30:41] <Denny_WMDE>	 we are deploying right now, so there's a bunch of us there
[19:30:43] <yurik>	 i don't mean it is done wrong
[19:30:46] <sumanah>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events so yurik can come to SMWCon in NYC in March and meet some folks in person as well
[19:31:00] <Denny_WMDE>	 there will be JeroenDeDauw there at smwcon
[19:31:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 he might be the only one from the team though
[19:31:17] <hybirdd>	 might not be the place to ask buut
[19:31:19] <yurik>	 sumanah: march - definitely, already signed up
[19:31:21] <Denny_WMDE>	 (which reminds me i owe smwcon an email)
[19:31:25] <hybirdd>	 how does one make a 404 page like on wikimedia sites
[19:31:43] <sumanah>	 hi hybirdd - point to the one you mean, as an example?
[19:31:46] <hybirdd>	 i.e: "Did you mean to type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/efdf? You will be automatically redirected there in five seconds."
[19:32:00] <sumanah>	 ah, so you mean redirects
[19:32:14] <^demon>	 Those are just generic apache 404 handlers.
[19:32:23] <^demon>	 We just made our page look nice and auto-redirect.
[19:32:26] <hybirdd>	 aha
[19:32:35] <hybirdd>	 ^demon: Alrighty, just wanted to know that 
[19:34:03] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: i don't want to distract from deployment process in wd channel. My goal is really to understand better where wikidata is heading in the API, and how we can make it part of the core query interface in a more seamless manner
[19:34:50] <yurik>	 the way it is seem to be implemented right now is to be a standalone separate system, and I think we can make it much more seamless
[19:36:18] <yurik>	 unfortunately IRC & emails don't provide as good of a way to understand the problems and design decisions made, as in personal contact
[19:36:42] <Denny_WMDE>	 yurik: we don't know yet for sure. we need lots of modules obviously, as you can see already, because we are using a lot of ajax for our UI.
[19:37:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) list format no longer woring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44518 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[19:37:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 many of the decisions were more about "how to make it work seamless with the UI" and not "how to make it more seamless with the API"
[19:38:22] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: i totally understand - my goal is to make both happen :)
[19:38:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "Ensure $sreg and $ax aren't null to prevent array_key_exists warnings." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46808
[19:38:39] <Denny_WMDE>	 i am sure that's possible :)
[19:38:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10danny.b)
[19:39:10] <yurik>	 right, but i'm affraid that non-browser clients will start using that api, making it a requirement to keep it
[19:39:42] <Denny_WMDE>	 which parts of the API are you most concerned about?
[19:39:50] <Denny_WMDE>	 those that could be expressed as query submodules?
[19:40:01] <Danny_B>	 hmm, wikibugs once parses and displays the name, once the username before @ in email address
[19:40:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 they have the advantage that they are neatly symmetrical to the writing API modules
[19:40:46] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: data gathering (query) is probably the biggest. But other actions that change data might be as important
[19:41:03] <Denny_WMDE>	 how would you change the data editing facility?
[19:41:14] <Denny_WMDE>	 is there an appropriate module where could submodule as of now?
[19:41:19] <yurik>	 i don't want to change it just yet - i don't know enough about it :)
[19:41:24] <Denny_WMDE>	 :)
[19:41:34] <yurik>	 first goal - good understanding
[19:41:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language module" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[19:41:44] <Denny_WMDE>	 in that case it might make sense to wait for the new MediaWiki API and then change both together
[19:41:49] <yurik>	 than i could make suggestions based on my experience with the rest of the api
[19:42:07] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: what do you mean? I am the one changing it right now :)
[19:42:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Anomie; "PS10: Add safeguards from ParserFunctions' #time to formatDate" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[19:42:43] <yurik>	 so understanding use cases that wikidata is strugling with might help me design the core api to better suite those usages
[19:43:08] <Denny_WMDE>	 yurik: i meant not to change the wikidata API now to fit with the old mw api, but then change it to api2 
[19:43:22] <Denny_WMDE>	 since api2 will break api anyway, we can do the same step
[19:43:23] <yurik>	 i don't think the api2 will deviate very substantially
[19:43:37] <yurik>	 in the sense that it will still have very similar internal structure
[19:43:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Duplicate entry errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44519 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; ()
[19:44:06] <yurik>	 api2 breaks mostly in usability areas - consistent naming, slight refactoring
[19:44:22] <yurik>	 better json support
[19:44:57] <yurik>	 localization of errors and warnings
[19:45:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Duplicate entry '2013-01-16' for key 'PRIMARY' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44520 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ContributionReporting; ()
[19:45:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installer aborts on outdated sqlite module though "--dbtype mysql" was passed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44511  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[19:46:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "Remove special case logic for OpenIDProvider 'openid'." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46811
[19:46:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "If $wgOpenIDConsumerForce is a string use it before anything else." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46812
[19:46:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "If $wgOpenIDConsumerForce is an OpenIDProvider; show that loginform" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46813
[19:47:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) list format no longer woring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44518  +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1)
[19:49:26] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_Future is where i keep all the changes, including recently added list of all planned aliasing
[19:50:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit conflict detection for claims still having some issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44101  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[19:53:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) list format no longer working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44518  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[19:53:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow to create multiple accounts for en-Wikipedia workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44472  +comment (10krenair)
[19:54:25] <Denny_WMDE>	 yurik: i have the page on my list "to read", but didnt come around yet
[19:54:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[FileRepo] Lazy load large metadata from the DB." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46817
[19:54:45] <Denny_WMDE>	 first thing i noticed is that it didnt have much input from others, why I didn't prio it high
[19:55:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplicate entry errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44519  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:55:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) DB error on enrollment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44365  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:55:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) DB error on enrollment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44365  +comment (10aklapper)
[19:55:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:56:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Cmcmahon; "Ruby upgrade" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46543
[19:56:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46543
[19:58:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow to create multiple accounts for en-Wikipedia workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44472  +comment (10jeremyb)
[19:59:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[19:59:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10danny.b)
[20:00:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[20:05:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki API 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38891  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:07:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API uses weird * (star/asterisk) key for the content property in JSON and PHP serialized formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31629  +comment (10Yuri Astrakhan)
[20:07:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki API 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38891  (10Yuri Astrakhan)
[20:07:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mwjames; "(bug 44518) Don't display <li> elements for |format=list" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46818
[20:08:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) "Download as PDF" on [[Purnia district]] throws maximum recursion depth error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44521 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; ()
[20:08:36] <duh>	 jeremyb: ^
[20:09:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46818
[20:10:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) list format no longer working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44518  +comment (10MWJames)
[20:11:14] <yurik>	 Denny_WMDE: lol - take a look on the talk page, it's murder there :)
[20:11:33] <Denny_WMDE>	 yurik: :) good!
[20:11:38] <Denny_WMDE>	 gotta link?
[20:12:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Download as PDF" on [[Purnia district]] throws maximum recursion depth error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44521  (10jeremyb)
[20:12:08] <yurik>	  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_Future and click on discussion page :)))
[20:12:30] <Denny_WMDE>	 thx
[20:13:19] <Denny_WMDE>	 aw
[20:13:21] <Denny_WMDE>	 indeed
[20:14:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "i18n review" [mediawiki/extensions/MultiMaps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46201
[20:16:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[20:17:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Adding import sources to dewikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44411  +comment (10eikes)
[20:18:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API uses weird * (star/asterisk) key for the content property in JSON and PHP serialized formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31629  +comment (10rkaldari)
[20:20:36] <daemon>	 sumanah, there we go :) http://wiki.hashweb.org/view/Special:Version 1.20.2
[20:20:48] <daemon>	 upgrade was amazingly easy
[20:20:55] <sumanah>	 Congrats!
[20:20:57] <sumanah>	 I'm so glad!
[20:21:05] <jeremyb>	 we can't have a daemon and a ^demon
[20:21:08] <daemon>	 I was expecting doom and destruction
[20:21:13] <daemon>	 like when I tried to update redmine
[20:21:46] <sumanah>	 You might enjoy having a few more extensions installed
[20:22:08] <MatmaRex>	 daemon: doom and destruction only happens when you use extensions which don't support the new version, or have customized the skin "too much" :)
[20:22:21] <sumanah>	 like ParserFunctions, and the antispam stuff https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Suggestions_for_extensions_to_be_merged_into_core
[20:22:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 14862) WIP - Global user renaming" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171
[20:22:36] <daemon>	 sumanah, in honesty even though I am the admin its more the other channel owners that run the site; my main job is making sure the hardware and os its based on don't throw a wobbly
[20:22:42] <MatmaRex>	 (the extensions WMF wikis use are guaranteed to be compatible, and most others are as well)
[20:23:34] <Vulpix>	 Sadly, extensions are incompatible with new versions of MediaWiki until a few months (or weeks if you're lucky) after release
[20:23:58] <yaron>	 That depends on the extension, doesn't it?
[20:24:25] <Vulpix>	 specially, because nobody tags them to allow dowload from ExtensionDistributor
[20:24:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10aklapper)
[20:24:43] <Vulpix>	 or the tag hasn't been tested
[20:25:32] <sumanah>	 Vulpix: is this already in the list Mariya Miteva made?
[20:25:53] <sumanah>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Third-party_MediaWiki_users_discussion
[20:27:03] <Vulpix>	 interesting, I didn't know about that discussion
[20:27:18] <Vulpix>	 adding to my watchlist!
[20:27:45] <sumanah>	 Vulpix: are you on the mediawiki-l or mediawiki-enterprise lists?
[20:27:50] <sumanah>	 the latter may interest you, it is low-traffic
[20:28:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nemo bis; "According to this, it's not working on testwiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:CentralNo..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35383
[20:29:10] <sumanah>	 and Vulpix -- Quim just pointed out a few other places you might want to subscribe: * http://identi.ca/mediawiki
[20:29:11] <sumanah>	 * https://twitter.com/#!/MediaWiki
[20:29:11] <sumanah>	 * https://www.facebook.com/MediaWikiProject
[20:29:11] <sumanah>	 * https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/103470172168784626509/103470172168784626509/posts 
[20:30:49] <Vulpix>	 thanks for the suggestions, I might suscribe to some of them ;)
[20:31:35] <Nemo_bis>	 Vulpix: tags are supposed to work now
[20:32:19] <Vulpix>	 Nemo_bis: Yes, but as I said, this happens some weeks/months after the stable release
[20:32:46] <Vulpix>	 this means people often needs to wait a lot of time until they can upgrade
[20:32:54] <Nemo_bis>	 Vulpix: no, it should work now
[20:33:10] <Nemo_bis>	 it has been fixed only a couple weeks ago or so
[20:33:27] <Vulpix>	 I know, and the last stable release was in...?
[20:33:38] <Vulpix>	 the 1.20.0 I mean
[20:33:56] <Nemo_bis>	 ?
[20:34:10] <Nemo_bis>	 the process has been fixed, now tags for extensions will be made at the same time as releases
[20:34:17] <Nemo_bis>	 this doesn't solve everything of course
[20:34:25] <Nemo_bis>	 I've updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Upgrade_extensions a few days ago
[20:34:32] <Nemo_bis>	 git upgrade instructions are still broken
[20:34:53] <Vulpix>	 Ok, that's a great improvement, then
[20:35:15] <Nemo_bis>	 send praise ---> ^demon 
[20:35:21] <sumanah>	 :-D
[20:40:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46817
[20:40:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Edit on double click does not work on Wikimania 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44522 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[20:40:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Danny B.)
[20:41:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit on double click does not work on Wikimania 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44522  (10Danny B.)
[20:41:42] <sumanah>	 Vulpix: the last stable release was in November, yeah ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.20 ) .  If you think stable releases should happen more often, hexmode is the person to take up that discussion with :-)
[20:42:37] <Vulpix>	 nono, I have no problem on that. I think I misunderstood Nemo_bis explanations, I didn't know that it was fixed
[20:42:56] <sumanah>	 aha ok :-)
[20:45:40] <sumanah>	 Congrats to the Wikidata team which is now live on THREE Wikipedias!    http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/01/30/wikidata-coming-to-the-next-two-wikipedias/
[20:51:09] <marktraceur>	 Sweet!
[20:52:03] <sumanah>	 I mean, to the team which took Wikidata live to 3 Wikipedias
[20:52:14] <sumanah>	 I do not mean that Lydia_WMDE and JeroenDeDauw and DanielK_WMDE_ et al. are now live on 3 Wikipedias
[20:52:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) tracking bug for deployment on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44514  (10Phillip Patriakeas)
[20:52:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) DB error on enrollment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44365  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[20:52:39] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sumanah: :D
[20:52:41] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thanks!
[20:52:48] <hexmode>	 Vulpix: next stable is in April/May ... thinking about doing the release at the hackathon in Amsterdam
[20:52:59] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 sumanah: \o/
[20:53:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) DB error on enrollment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44365  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[20:56:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) DB error on enrollment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44365  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[21:03:20] <TheAvatar>	 marktraceur, thanks for getting back - for now I solved it with anon access, then we probably protect the wiki with .htaccess instead
[21:03:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10danny.b)
[21:03:34] <TheAvatar>	 I am not up for the task of fixing the bug - OOP is not really my thing, and I lack the time as well
[21:03:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Adds SQLAlchemy TypeDecorator for MediaWiki Timestamps" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46874
[21:03:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "JSON-relational mapping. You saw it here first." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46657
[21:04:04] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: We could probably help, but all right.
[21:04:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10danny.b)
[21:04:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "Since this updated class is using [1] the use statements are reduced to SMW, Html." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45780
[21:05:48] <TheAvatar>	 marktraceur, really? that would be nice of course - but if there's an easy solution, can I ask why it isn't working already? or is it because all of this is bleeding edge?
[21:06:49] <TheAvatar>	 marktraceur, the thing is, I set it up for a customer asking for this particular thing - for internal use - even though everything have stickers on it saying "not ready for production use yet"
[21:07:07] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: I'm not sure it would be easy. It would have to be a two-patch solution, with one patch submitted to VE and another to Parsoid. You'd need to play with authentication headers a bit, and you may even need to patch MediaWiki to add in a custom auth hook or something. So yeah, it would take some work.
[21:08:26] <TheAvatar>	 marktraceur, ah okay, that is also somewhat how I understood it from the first part you wrote, that's why I was like "ah k, I go with .htaccess" - I already spend quite some time on it. I was not very clever, so I ended up writing a piece of code accessing the API like VE does to find out why it failed
[21:08:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "If you think this change is no longer relevant, please abandon it :)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45780
[21:09:07] <marktraceur>	 TheAvatar: FWIW I also filed a bug asking for better error reporting in VE when Parsoid is already doing the right thing.
[21:09:19] <marktraceur>	 (e.g. 401 response for unauthourized access)
[21:10:10] <TheAvatar>	 exactly - Parsoid seemed to be ok (no errors, and showing some "OK, processed page in xx ms". Seems like I needed the most recent build of MW instead of 1.20 for it to work due to some change to some xxeditnotices() function
[21:10:50] <MatmaRex>	 uh
[21:11:01] <TheAvatar>	 in my opinion, some non-technical person would not have managed to set it up at all
[21:11:02] <MatmaRex>	 any wikidata people still around? the demo is broken
[21:11:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Wizardist; "You are confusing legit language codes (such as de-formal) and dummy language codes (such as be-x-ol..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/35383
[21:11:12] <MatmaRex>	 http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki/Special:CreateItem i get ugly SQL error when trying to create an item
[21:11:29] <MatmaRex>	 1146: Table 'repo.wb_terms' doesn't exist (localhost)
[21:11:39] <marktraceur>	 Wuh oh.
[21:11:41] <chrismcmahon>	 TheAvatar: if you're using VE you might want to be aware of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44479 (data loss bug)
[21:11:49] * terrrydactyl  pokes Dereckson 

[21:12:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mwjames; "I can't abandon this change, I can only give a -2 but that's not really nice since you put in effort..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45780
[21:12:16] <sumanah>	 MatmaRex: you might try #wikimedia-wikidata ?
[21:12:33] <MatmaRex>	 sumanah: i'm busy right now, just throwing this here
[21:12:43] <MatmaRex>	 i wanted to write a little note about wikidata on pl.wikipedia
[21:12:47] <sumanah>	 DanielK_WMDE_: ^
[21:12:49] <sumanah>	 AnjaJ_WMDE: ^
[21:12:56] <MatmaRex>	 (given that nobody else bothered to notify the wikis about the deployment)
[21:12:57] <sumanah>	 andre__: ^
[21:13:09] <sumanah>	 MatmaRex: Hold on, what do you mean?
[21:13:14] <JeroenDeDauw>	 sumanah: not to forget Danwe_WMDE and AnjaJ_WMDE and the ones not currently in the channel :)
[21:13:48] <MatmaRex>	 sumanah: okay, that wasn't actually correct
[21:13:53] <sumanah>	 MatmaRex: Wikidata got deployed today to Italian & Hebrew. Did they not get informed?
[21:14:37] <MatmaRex>	 sumanah: but given that according to the article you linked it's going to be deployed everywhere in less than a month, an announcement would be nice
[21:14:50] <sumanah>	 MatmaRex: Lydia_WMDE is the person you should talk to about that.
[21:14:58] <TheAvatar>	 chrismcmahon, ah - I'll tell the customer, thanks for the input
[21:15:10] <sumanah>	 She's handling communications for Wikidata.
[21:15:26] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: hey
[21:15:31] <MatmaRex>	 i know there was a note or two before, but i don't remember any particular dates or deadlines being given in them
[21:15:46] <MatmaRex>	 hi Lydia
[21:15:54] <chrismcmahon>	 TheAvatar: we're actually doing some testing on VE this week, so good timing
[21:16:01] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 MatmaRex: that's because there are no final dates and deadlines yet. there are tentative plans.
[21:16:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: i intend to send a global note two weeks before deployment on all wikipedias
[21:16:08] <sumanah>	 Lydia_WMDE: MatmaRex is doing the valuable work of informing his home wiki about tech developments & occurences
[21:16:13] <Lydia_WMDE>	 cool
[21:16:33] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: i'm happy to work with you already of course but as DanielK_WMDE_ said we have tentative dates
[21:16:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 they might change because of reasons outside our control
[21:17:09] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 throwing around fixed dates too early isn't good. of course, pleople shouldn't be surprised either
[21:17:21] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 i suppose 2 weeks is a decent compromize given our tight schedule
[21:18:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Demon; "Abandoning in favor of I3967e143." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46008
[21:20:06] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46261
[21:20:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API uses weird * (star/asterisk) key for the content property in JSON and PHP serialized formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31629  +comment (10yuriastrakhan)
[21:22:30] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: seems like Dereckson is still MIA, if you're not busy, can you take a look at my code review? i started working on opening the file and extracting the lines, but it would be good to make sure that my previous code works.
[21:22:41] <marktraceur>	 Hm, sure
[21:22:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Anomie; "Lua ustring implementation" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013
[21:22:50] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: Link me?
[21:22:58] <terrrydactyl>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45084/
[21:23:20] <sumanah>	 Dereckson: ping
[21:23:29] <sumanah>	 terrrydactyl: how long has he been MIA?
[21:23:57] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46526
[21:24:13] <terrrydactyl>	 sumanah: i haven't been able to talk to him since last monday, and i don't even think i talked to him then. just an acknowledgment.
[21:24:23] <sumanah>	 ok, that's extremely odd
[21:24:45] <terrrydactyl>	 sumanah: yes, it is. i emailed him too so if he was busy, i would think he would at least respond to my email at a leisurely pace..
[21:24:49] <TheAvatar>	 chrismcmahon, I see - so I might want to check back once in a while - not sure when the customer will go live with the wiki yet - still on the scratchpad
[21:24:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[21:25:48] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: Presumably the expected output is every filename in my temporary directory?
[21:25:58] <marktraceur>	 e.g. /tmp
[21:26:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45822
[21:26:46] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: yes. i was just using it to check the contents. there's no valuable output yet.
[21:27:44] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: do the debug messages work for you? they work on and off for me, but that's kind of what happens on my environment..
[21:28:15] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46805
[21:28:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Semantic MediaWiki on WMF projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8390  (10Quim Gil)
[21:28:55] <chrismcmahon>	 TheAvatar: might be worth your time to go through the open Bugzilla tickets for VE and add yourself to the ones that affect you, so that you'll get notifications when their status changes.  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[21:29:43] <MatmaRex>	 Lydia_WMDE: sorry for disappearing, i'm back
[21:30:02] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: meep
[21:30:19] <MatmaRex>	 DanielK_WMDE_: (same, sorry)
[21:31:00] <MatmaRex>	 i see your point, thanks for the explanation
[21:31:30] <MatmaRex>	 it's just that on one side, everybody is excited about wikidata, and on the other, well, it's kinda scary
[21:31:47] <MatmaRex>	 suddenly changing how established pieces of infrastructure works
[21:32:13] <MatmaRex>	 the language links most people probably won't even notice at first, but the further phases are certainly daunting :)
[21:33:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[21:34:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "Ensure $sreg and $ax aren't null to prevent array_key_exists warnings." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46808
[21:34:53] <MatmaRex>	 Lydia_WMDE: so a tentative estimate ;) on when the notice will be sent out is two weeks before deployment? is that only the phase 1 or phase 2 as well?
[21:35:01] <TheAvatar>	 chrismcmahon, I'll do that if the customer decides to stick with it
[21:35:14] <MatmaRex>	 (i'm talking wikis not involved in the testing until now, such as pl.wikipedia)
[21:35:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: tbh i am not entirely sure if that will only be phase 1 - can you shoot me an email so i can clarify tomorrow?
[21:35:51] <Lydia_WMDE>	 lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de
[21:36:43] <Lydia_WMDE>	 MatmaRex: either way if the local consensus is going to be we don't use it then you don't use it :)  stuff that's working now will continue to work
[21:36:56] <Lydia_WMDE>	 i hope that'll not be the case of course
[21:37:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 and i am happy to work with you on any questions you have
[21:38:40] <MatmaRex>	 Lydia_WMDE: yeah, sure, i know tat it's not breaking anything
[21:39:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10lcarr)
[21:42:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) missing "query"-element when no titles specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31901  +comment (10Yuri Astrakhan)
[21:42:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki API 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38891  (10Yuri Astrakhan)
[21:45:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Not prod-bound; post-merge comments welcome." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46657
[21:45:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46657
[21:46:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Daniel Kinzler; "Add getters to HttpError, to use it in tests." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46876
[21:46:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46874
[21:47:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Nikerabbit; "Quite a hack ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46711
[21:49:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46711
[21:50:33] <sumanah>	 btw Lydia_WMDE maybe you know someone whom you can refer https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings for the tech writer, director of UX, and search engineer positions? (mentioning those because they are somewhat newer and you might not have seen them)
[21:50:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Matmarex; "The proper solution here would be implementation of bug 23580. (Just a friendly note.)" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46711
[21:51:10] <Lydia_WMDE>	 sumanah: not that i can think of right now but i will think about it some more
[21:51:55] <sumanah>	 okay! thanks
[21:52:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Mattflaschen; "What is a "flapping test"?" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46710
[21:53:32] <terrrydactyl>	 hey sumanah, what's the difference between an extension and a gadget?
[21:54:22] <MatmaRex>	 terrrydactyl: gadget is just a bunch of .js and .css files, they can be edited by wiki admins. extensions are, well, full-blown extensions - the entire gadgets system is implemented in one, for example, and they need shell access to be modified.
[21:54:28] <MatmaRex>	 !e Gadgets
[21:54:28] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets
[21:55:16] <terrrydactyl>	 so gadgets are all bundled together?
[21:55:35] <sumanah>	 terrrydactyl: you might enjoy skimming https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture
[21:55:50] <sumanah>	 especially this section which explains things https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture#Customizing_and_extending_MediaWiki
[21:56:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement JavaScript mw.hooks framework - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23580  +comment (10Siebrand)
[21:56:13] <terrrydactyl>	 okay, thanks!
[21:56:31] <MatmaRex>	 terrrydactyl: i'm not sure what you mean. gadgets are created as pages in the MediaWiki namespace
[21:56:32] <sumanah>	 sure!
[21:56:59] <MatmaRex>	 terrrydactyl: and this page contains the list and some settings for them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
[21:57:10] <MatmaRex>	 (en.wiki is just an example wiki, this page exists on all wikis using gadgets)
[21:57:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Gerrit email title truncation over eager - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35802  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[21:58:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10lcarr)
[21:59:39] <terrrydactyl>	 MatmaRex: bundled as in if you require_once( ../Gadgets.php) then you have all the gadgets available.
[21:59:51] <sumanah>	 terrrydactyl: right now that is not possible.
[22:00:19] <sumanah>	 terrrydactyl: Someday, in the distant future, there is a plin to have a central gadgets repository
[22:00:21] <MatmaRex>	 terrrydactyl: ah, no. there is some rudimentary import/export functionality, though
[22:00:29] <MatmaRex>	 terrrydactyl: on [[special:gadgets]]
[22:00:44] <sumanah>	 terrrydactyl: and then it will be easy for any wiki owner to share well-made gadgets, or to grab good ones
[22:01:02] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: Sorry, I had a cake to help eat
[22:01:10] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: mmm cake!
[22:01:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[22:01:43] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: Well, if that's what you expect then it works. I'll just read through the code quick and maybe merge it.
[22:01:45] <sumanah>	 (I say "plin" because there is no date associated with it and thus it is not really a commitment)
[22:02:10] <sumanah>	 cf. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/301003#301003
[22:02:53] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: thanks! can you check that i implemented the global variable $wgGit2PagesDataDir correctly? i'm not sure about how to do global variables in the mediawiki context
[22:03:18] <terrrydactyl>	 well, i don't usually do global variables, so i guess in any context.
[22:03:25] <marktraceur>	 Sure sure
[22:03:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Nonexistent but populated categories don't return 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44517  (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder))
[22:04:10] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46793
[22:09:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MarkTraceur; "A few style-ish things, but it *works* at least." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 2 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:09:09] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: Two comments, then I'll merge :)
[22:09:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Creating or editing an ambassador profile prompts "leave page" warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42204  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[22:09:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10maurelio)
[22:10:42] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: will look at it!
[22:11:17] <superm401>	 We upgraded an extension (on Labs), which changes the message copy (but not the set of keys).
[22:11:18] <superm401>	 ResourceLoader doesn't seem to want to clear/invalidate the message blob.
[22:11:24] <superm401>	 Isn't update.php supposed to do it?
[22:12:02] <Vulpix>	 I think that's a RL bug ;)
[22:12:37] <superm401>	 Is there seriously no way to do it except changing the Epoch?
[22:12:46] <superm401>	 Or manually clearing the table?
[22:13:04] <Vulpix>	 RL uses the timestamp of the files to determine if they need to update the cache. Since they haven't changed (only the messages, but they seem to be untracked)... no cache update!
[22:13:20] <superm401>	 If you look in MessageBlobStore, it says:
[22:13:32] <superm401>	 "Update the module's blobs if the set of messages changed or if the blob is older than $wgCacheEpoch"
[22:13:44] <superm401>	 Probably people don't hit this a lot since the set changes (someone adds a new message).
[22:13:56] <superm401>	 But it seems like update.php should do it.
[22:14:02] <Vulpix>	 !class MessageBlobStore
[22:14:02] <wm-bot>	 See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classMessageBlobStore.html
[22:15:22] <superm401>	 !class DatabaseUpdater
[22:15:22] <wm-bot>	 See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classDatabaseUpdater.html
[22:15:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Fix-ups to column generation" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46880
[22:15:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Terrrydactyl; "Added git cloning functionality." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:15:38] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: ^ i think i got them all
[22:15:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: CSteipp; "It would be helpful if the permissions documentation specified which roles they were intended for. B..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46791
[22:15:58] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46791
[22:16:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10maurelio)
[22:16:20] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: No, there was a comment about your change to the authours array
[22:16:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46880
[22:16:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) memcached - ITEM TOO BIG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42652  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[22:19:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) "commonswiki:allpages:ns:*" keys too big - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44523 normal; MediaWiki: File management; ()
[22:22:02] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: i don't see a comment...
[22:22:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10csteipp)
[22:22:47] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/45084/3..4/Git2Pages.php
[22:24:33] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: should it just be an array of names?
[22:24:39] <sumanah>	 later all
[22:24:46] <terrrydactyl>	 bye sumanah !
[22:24:46] <sumanah>	 tonight: pizza + the 2nd episode of "Roots"
[22:25:28] <terrrydactyl>	 sounds fun!
[22:25:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) update.php should invalid ResourceLoader message cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44524 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; ()
[22:27:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Terrrydactyl; "Added git cloning functionality." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:27:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Image urls should have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17577  summary (10Krinkle)
[22:28:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) update.php should invalidate ResourceLoader message cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44524  summary (10Matthew Flaschen)
[22:28:19] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: "Himeshi de Silva" IIRC
[22:28:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10lcarr)
[22:28:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Image urls should have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17577  (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder))
[22:32:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10maurelio)
[22:33:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Terrrydactyl; "Added git cloning functionality." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:36:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MarkTraceur; "Insane amount of nitpicking later, merged!" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:36:14] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MarkTraceur; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45084
[22:36:36] <marktraceur>	 terrrydactyl: You can ping me anytime for code review, I dragged Dereckson into this and it's only sporting for me to help out :)
[22:36:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplicate entry '2013-01-16' for key 'PRIMARY' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44520  (10Adam Wight)
[22:37:57] <terrrydactyl>	 marktraceur: thanks mark! :)
[22:38:15] <terrrydactyl>	 time to work on the rest of the extension~!
[22:38:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10csteipp)
[22:38:48] <marktraceur>	 Indeed!
[22:39:06] <shif68k>	 Hello.
[22:39:40] <marktraceur>	 shif68k: Hi!
[22:39:54] <shif68k>	 nothing like a 68k mac to make you *really* appreciate modern computers :D
[22:42:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use ResourceLoader for message delivery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43409  +comment (10jrobson)
[22:46:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Polish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44414  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[22:46:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10maurelio)
[22:47:09] <MikuruX>	 Hello. I'm having an installation issue and need to talk to someone
[22:48:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10lcarr)
[22:48:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Polish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44414  (10Marcin Cieślak)
[22:49:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Adamw; "(bug 44520) Stats fail" [mediawiki/extensions/ContributionReporting] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46887
[22:49:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Duplicate entry '2013-01-16' for key 'PRIMARY' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44520   +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Adam Wight)
[22:51:05] <MikuruX>	 When I try to install, the system is informing me that my server is running on PHP version 5.2.17. I contacted my server host and they inform me it's running on 5.3.16 and in my host control panel, it shows the same thing. I'm confused but I'm pretty sure my host  is BSing me again but I need to make sure I did everything correctly prior to going to the install prompt
[22:51:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  (10MZMcBride)
[22:51:43] <marktraceur>	 MikuruX: Have you tried doing the "hello, world" PHP program that dumps system information?
[22:51:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: CSteipp; "Ok for now, but it would be good to comply with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Messages_API#Re..." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43473
[22:52:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43473
[22:52:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10federicoleva)
[22:52:38] <MikuruX>	 You're going to have to excuse me but I know nothing about it
[22:52:50] <MikuruX>	 Mind explaining?
[22:53:09] <marktraceur>	 MikuruX: 
[22:53:09] <marktraceur>	 <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[22:53:30] <marktraceur>	 Just about every PHP tutorial in the world uses that, but anyway, it should tell you the version
[22:53:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary parse error $1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44459  +comment (10mflaschen)
[22:54:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) pagetriage-del-talk-page-notify-summary parse error $1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44459  +comment (10mflaschen)
[22:54:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "Use the REPLACE function" [mediawiki/extensions/ContributionReporting] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46887
[22:59:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) htcp cache purges for images do not seem to clear europe upload squid caches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44508  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[23:00:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) admins who are not campus/online volunteers should not be able to create Ambassador profiles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44322  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[23:01:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) protecting single article to allow only logged-in contributors to edit it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/675  (10MZMcBride)
[23:02:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "Remove special case logic for OpenIDProvider 'openid'." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46811
[23:02:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "If $wgOpenIDConsumerForce is an OpenIDProvider; show that loginform" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46813
[23:02:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: UnwashedMeme; "If $wgOpenIDConsumerForce is a string use it before anything else." [mediawiki/extensions/OpenID] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46812
[23:02:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Ah, you're right. Should not use global context. Will change this soonish." [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43473
[23:03:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Uploading from phone's gallery in Android 4.x stock browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42708  (10Juliusz Gonera)
[23:03:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enlarge "Description" wikitext entry box in course page editing interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43861  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[23:04:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Request new magic word {{PAGECREATOR}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44494  +comment (10b)
[23:05:17] <AaronSchulz>	 Reedy: stop shouting ;)
[23:06:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46789
[23:08:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Flickr disclaimer message escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; ()
[23:18:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Adamw; "(bug 44520) Stats fail" [mediawiki/extensions/ContributionReporting] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46887
[23:20:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ArticleFeedbackv5 watchlist link is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44439  +comment (10b)
[23:21:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Adamw; ""prefix" options for each contribution database" [mediawiki/extensions/ContributionReporting] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46890
[23:21:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 14862) WIP - Global user renaming" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171
[23:23:30] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46778
[23:26:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: CSteipp; "Is there a bug number for this?" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45956
[23:30:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "* Don't use empty()" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41913
[23:33:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Hoo man; "Re to Krinkle" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/41913
[23:34:20] <hoo>	 Of course !(bool) $this->requestedUser is much nicer than empty( $this->requestedUser )
[23:34:21] <hoo>	 ...
[23:34:40] <Susan>	 Hi hoo.
[23:34:50] <hoo>	 hey Susan ;)
[23:35:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid should support passing on an authenticated user's read right (when MW API supports that) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44483  +comment (10gwicke)
[23:36:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: CSteipp; "Looks reasonable" [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44604
[23:36:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EducationProgram] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44604
[23:36:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid should support passing on an authenticated user's read right (when MW API supports that) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44483  (10Danielle Keptres)
[23:38:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Alex Monk; "This seems to be stopping the renamed user from logging in. Chris suggested it might be some sort of..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39171
[23:42:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10csteipp)
[23:49:42] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46475
[23:54:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please give me my accounts back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39997  +comment (10maurelio)
[23:57:31] <terrrydactyl>	 what's mediawiki's way of handling error messages? for example, if the user didn't input required information.