[00:00:36] New review: Wizardist; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48752 [00:00:36] Change merged: Wizardist; [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48752 [00:08:36] New patchset: Wizardist; "Simplify hooking" [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48754 [00:08:55] New review: Wizardist; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48754 [00:08:56] Change merged: Wizardist; [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48754 [00:11:38] New patchset: Mwalker; "Display fixes for Adyen" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48755 [00:14:34] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [00:15:21] asking mediawiki add on DB prefix a "_" and if doing anyquery getting that table not found for example if $wgDBprefix = "bob" then after installation all tables created as bobpage but when query smth it query for bob_page [00:15:29] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47051 [00:15:43] which doesnt exist [00:19:08] 03(mod) Arbitrary userjs- preferences should be shown in the GUI, with the possibility of clearing them one-by-one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43960 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:19:47] New review: Dereckson; "Patch Set 1: Verified+1 Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47824 [00:20:44] 03(mod) Arbitrary userjs- preferences should be shown in the GUI, with the possibility of clearing them one-by-one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43960 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:21:12] terrrydactyl: compare the http://mediawiki.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Sandbox:Git2Pages output, and the source code, you'll understand what I mean about the escape and what HTML parser will print/ignore as content when it meets a unknown tag. [00:22:42] 03(mod) Chunked upload 500 Internal Server Error for Commons API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44909 +comment (10bjorsch) [00:23:45] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Support role="presentation" inside of WikiText." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [00:24:33] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [00:24:54] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Tolerate string revIds." [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48763 [00:25:58] New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48763 [00:26:21] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48763 [00:27:59] Dereckson: i see it now. will work on that! thanks [00:28:27] New patchset: Mwjames; "srf.format.datatables() enabale local caching" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [00:29:40] New review: Mwjames; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [00:30:08] Dereckson: also, i didn't realize that php also had the ternary operator. good to know! [00:30:55] 03(mod) allow to change the order of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44678 +comment (10Yair Rand) [00:32:31] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48615 [00:33:01] Reedy: lots of extensions call being/commit without __METHOD__ ... just saying :) [00:33:01] Hi is this the cite extension that wikipedia uses ? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#Installation [00:33:07] *begin/commit [00:33:48] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Wikibase-propertyedittool-counter is not being parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44920 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [00:33:53] TimStarling: the $this issue again, heh [00:34:19] New patchset: Mwjames; "srf.format.datatables() enable local caching" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [00:34:51] New patchset: Mwjames; "srf.formats.datatables() enable local caching" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [00:35:34] New patchset: Mwjames; "srf.formats.datatables() enable local caching" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [00:38:08] more evidence that all new features in PHP are inherently evil and broken [00:38:17] if any were needed [00:38:32] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48743 [00:39:45] New patchset: Bsitu; "Fix message key and default user option for Echo" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48767 [00:40:18] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48615 [00:40:24] TimStarling: don't remind me of http://www.buunguyen.net/blog/the-5-types-of-poor-architects.html [00:40:33] "no news is good news" :) [00:40:34] New patchset: Daniel Friesen; "Support WAI-ARIA's role="presentation" inside of WikiText." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [00:41:33] New review: Daniel Friesen; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28670 [00:43:21] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Add more message tests to mediawiki.js entry point, fix comment" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48745 [00:51:44] New patchset: Robmoen; "Bug 41291- Get browser info w/ user permission" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32700 [00:55:51] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48601 [00:56:03] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/TemplateSandbox] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48751 [00:59:48] I am having trouble installing the Cite function, it is installed but when I look at the advanced menu the cite button is missing [01:01:31] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs, patroller and autoreview changes for tr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44587 +comment (10vitomedia) [01:07:42] New patchset: Rfaulk; "add. For all test envs run tests in sartoris/tests/sartoris.py via nosetests." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48768 [01:08:17] Dereckson: i've discovered a bug. if the git folder didn't clone correctly, there's no way to reclone it. i had a git repo that was empty which was why i couldn't find the file i was looking for. what would be a good way to check this? should i just leave it up to the user to check that the repo was cloned properly? [01:08:18] New review: Spage; "Patch Set 7:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27022 [01:10:02] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47051 [01:10:09] Change merged: Mattflaschen; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47051 [01:12:14] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 6: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43166 [01:12:28] New review: Jforrester; "Patch Set 6: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/32700 [01:15:48] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47189 [01:18:17] New patchset: Adamw; "rough pass at banner screenshot job" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37361 [01:23:35] New patchset: Rfaulk; "fix. add envs to tox.ini to run unit tests in python2.6/7 environments." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48769 [01:30:37] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10Peter Gehres) [01:33:39] 03(mod) jqueryMsg should not parse plain messages as HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44459 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:37:00] 03(mod) [Code regression] Output of 'mwe-upwiz-thanks-wikitext' and 'mwe-upwiz-thanks-url' as plain text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44885 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:37:01] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:39:34] 03(NEW) Support for OPTIONS verb (preflight) in API requests when doing CORS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44921 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [01:39:38] 03(mod) Creation of the Polish language Wikivoyage mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44737 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [01:40:59] 03(mod) Support for OPTIONS verb (preflight) in API requests when doing CORS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44921 (10Juliusz Gonera) [01:41:57] 03(mod) New mailinglist for education program in Macedonian schools: mk-wpsu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44810 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [01:42:41] 03(mod) Requesting a new mailing list for proposed Thematic organization: education in the US and Canada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44358 normal->15enhancement (10Thehelpfulone) [01:49:21] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10mflaschen) [01:49:25] New patchset: Kaldari; "(bug 44885) More workarounds for change Ifbeae7e9" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48772 [01:50:55] terrrydactyl: no idea for a quick way to check if a git repository is valid, I did some tests with git fsck, this isn't really handy to use. [01:51:35] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10rkaldari) [01:52:39] New review: Kaldari; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48772 [01:52:40] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48772 [01:52:43] New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.title library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [01:52:49] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [01:52:59] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 (10Ryan Kaldari) [01:53:00] the easiest case would be to intercept in the checkout command "fatal: Not a git repository", but that only work for git clone earliest failures [01:53:33] Dereckson: hmm, maybe i can just add a little note on "Debugging Issues" on the extension page for now? [01:53:58] it works fine if you delete the faulty repository and then reclone it. [01:56:04] 03(NEW) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [01:56:11] 03(NEW) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [01:56:22] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 (10Steven Walling) [01:56:32] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 +design (10Steven Walling) [01:58:49] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561 [01:58:56] 03(mod) New mailinglist for education program in Macedonian schools: mk-wpsu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44810 +comment (10asaf.bartov) [02:02:08] 03(mod) New mailinglist for education program in Macedonian schools: mk-wpsu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44810 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [02:02:13] 03(mod) Talk page comments disregard the user date/time preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44890 +comment (10yuri) [02:03:05] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:03:44] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 +comment (10swalling) [02:06:07] 03(mod) [i18n] Custom format for saved signature timestamps (four/five tildes) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25476 +comment (10Yuri) [02:07:02] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10rkaldari) [02:09:12] New patchset: Kaldari; "Adding dismiss functionality to flyout overlay." [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48773 [02:09:58] 03(mod) Add wikitext bold and italic support to jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43512 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:11:18] 03(mod) Add wikitext bold and italic support to jqueryMsg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43512 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:12:23] 03(mod) Flickr disclaimer message escaped, showing raw HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44525 +comment (10mflaschen) [02:14:27] New patchset: Rfaulk; "mod. name change to test.py to avoid package name conflict. Imeplemented unit tests in TestSartorisInit." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48774 [02:14:27] New patchset: Rfaulk; "rm. redundant imports." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48775 [02:14:27] New patchset: Rfaulk; "fix. reference to _tag and call to attribute in sync and resync methods." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48776 [02:14:28] New patchset: Rfaulk; "mod. remove py26 env (argparse >= py27). Nose call to test.py." [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48777 [02:16:58] 03(mod) Talk page comments disregard the user date/time preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44890 +comment (10yuri) [02:19:00] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562 [02:23:45] 03(mod) Languages do not show under certain circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44081 +comment (10jrobson) [02:24:32] 03(mod) Creation of the Polish language Wikivoyage mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44737 (10kpjas) [02:28:14] 03(mod) Creation of the Polish language Wikivoyage mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44737 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [02:37:54] 03(mod) Changing local timezone in ko.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44784 +comment (10hyolee2) [02:38:22] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48768 [02:38:23] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48768 [02:38:43] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48769 [02:38:44] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48769 [02:39:03] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48774 [02:39:03] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48774 [02:39:17] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48775 [02:39:17] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48775 [02:39:29] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48776 [02:39:29] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48776 [02:39:44] New review: preilly; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [sartoris] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48777 [02:39:44] Change merged: preilly; [sartoris] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48777 [02:43:41] New review: Spage; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27022 [02:46:14] I have a problem with my wiki. I did an upgrade and now it doesn't load properly. It doesn't load any graphics and it takes forever to load. Looks like the css or something is not loading properly either, as the layout is completely broken. Does anybody have any ideas? [02:46:28] Link to your site? [02:46:36] http://wiki.gshellz.org/gsh/Main_Page [02:46:39] Sounds like a probably with ResourceLoader (load.php in the root directory). [02:47:16] http://wiki.globalshellz.org/load.php should load properly. [02:47:33] It should output something like... [02:47:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/load.php [02:48:10] wims: It looks like you're using short URLs, maybe? [02:48:23] I imagine you've exempted certain files (api.php, index.php, etc.). [02:48:31] Add load.php and you should be good. [02:48:54] i'll look into it [02:49:03] i didn't set this up, i was just tasked with fixing it [02:49:07] Heh. [02:49:46] http://wiki.globalshellz.org/api.php also seems kind of broken. [02:50:04] Really, you shouldn't have files in the domain root like that. [02:50:28] 03(NEW) Separate cookies by tour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44924 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [02:51:09] 03(mod) Separate cookies by tour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44924 (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:53:30] 03(mod) Separate cookies by tour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44924 (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:55:11] New review: GICodeWarrior; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/CSS] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47614 [02:59:59] New review: GICodeWarrior; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2" [mediawiki/extensions/CSS] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47614 [02:59:59] Change merged: GICodeWarrior; [mediawiki/extensions/CSS] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47614 [03:04:19] 03(mod) Creation of the Polish language Wikivoyage mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44737 (10kpjas) [03:10:06] 03(mod) Changing local timezone in ko.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44784 +comment (10분당선M) [03:10:34] 03(mod) Changing local timezone in ko.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44784 +comment (10kht1992) [03:14:14] New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.title library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [03:14:51] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [03:23:21] New review: Parent5446; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/27022 [03:24:37] 03(mod) [ and ] shortkeys not working in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40640 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [03:30:24] New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.title library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [03:31:23] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913 [03:32:44] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 24: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013 [03:32:44] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38013 [03:35:30] New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050 [03:35:57] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 13:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050 [03:37:07] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Implement isSinglePage, removing end tour and no cookies:" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48778 [03:39:01] it turns out that the article pages loads just fine, but the main page does not load the css properly [03:39:08] very confusing [03:39:42] New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050 [03:40:47] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 14:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050 [03:42:43] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use defineTour and the new isSinglePage field." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48779 [03:43:25] Change abandoned: Mattflaschen; "Added to wrong branch." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48779 [03:47:46] Change abandoned: Tim Starling; "Changes were incorporated into or superseded in Ie76fdf8" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48615 [03:50:20] 03(mod) Set $wgAutoConfirmCount to 10 for ko.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44894 (10sotiale) [03:50:24] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Use defineTour and the new isSinglePage field." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48780 [03:50:42] Susan: i think it was the ldap plugin that was messing with me, disabled it and the site loads fine [03:51:31] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48780 [03:53:39] wims: did you update your extensions when you updated mediawiki? [03:54:12] i updated the ldap plugin [03:54:24] but the configuration was somehow broken according to some other admins [03:54:31] i wasnt involved in configuring it [03:54:42] 03(NEW) Use ResourceLoader API module and async for parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44925 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [03:55:11] we used to host the wiki on a different server that went down, i was tasked with putting it back online again on a different server [03:56:27] Interesting. Thanks for letting us know. [03:56:29] Weird problem. [04:00:02] New patchset: Waldir; "Standardize filenames of maintenance scripts and make names more explicit" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48430 [04:00:45] 03(NEW) Selecting last n lines and deleting - last line not deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44926 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [04:08:07] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Remove global side-effects from mw.ustring library registration" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48781 [04:13:28] Hello! Does anyone here know how to implement qwebirc (or some other web-based IRC client) into a wiki? [04:18:18] Is anyone there? [04:19:06] there is a extension or two to handle that I believe, But i have no idea what state they are in [04:21:14] New review: Amire80; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48617 [04:21:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48617 [04:21:25] Okay, thanks p858snake|1 [04:21:29] Why would you want to do IRC in a wiki? [04:21:33] 03(mod) Exit page from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36834 (10Legoktm) [04:22:31] Well, we have an official IRC chat room, and our current online client (hosted on another site) sucks. I'm looking for getting a better IRC client, hopefully one integrated into the wiki [04:22:39] If not, then we can just host it on the servers [04:23:15] 03(mod) Grammar forms update for Polish language for Wikivoyage strings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44901 +comment (10Siebrand) [04:24:20] Jak_Atackka: would qwebirc be your implementation of choice? [04:24:48] It's good, but if I had to use another one (like PJIRC), then that'd be just fine [04:24:51] New patchset: Waldir; "Followup of I60f76f (standardize file/class names of maintenance scripts)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:25:28] Jak_Atackka: let me check it out for a bit [04:25:32] We currently have a Java client which was made by one of our editors a while back, but it's not fully featured, and a lot of users don't have the Java plugin [04:25:34] Alright, thanks [04:25:55] The plugin for their browsers, I mean. Some probably don't have JRE either, though [04:28:07] New patchset: Waldir; "Standardize filenames of maintenance scripts and make names more explicit" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48430 [04:29:14] New patchset: Spage; "Move Agora.i18n.php to match path" [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48783 [04:30:35] Hm, my mistake. I guess the IRC client we use wasn't made by one of our editors - it is just hosted by them. It's actually PJIRC [04:31:05] Jak_Atackka: how much PHP and JavaScript expertise do you have internally? [04:32:06] Personally, I have a fair amount of Javascript experience and very little PHP. However, the webmaster has PHP experience [04:33:10] New patchset: Waldir; "Update filenames of maintenance scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:33:50] how do I make a link to another commit from a commit message? [04:34:02] Jak_Atackka: this seems like one possibility: http://dev.wikia.com/wiki/Freenode_IRC#Embedding_Wikia.27s_IRC_gateway [04:34:39] 03(NEW) Redirect command within a gallery gives a server error if try to load page in VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44927 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; () [04:35:26] Waldir: I think you can just include a change ID anywhere in the commit and Gerrit will auto-link it [04:35:33] the same may also be true for the commit's SHA1 hash [04:36:01] anywhere in the commit message, I mean. [04:36:57] ori-l: I thought so too, but it doesn't seem to happen here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:37:01] I think you can edit commit messages in-line now, so you could simply make a test commit against some repository, then 'git review --draft', and experiment. [04:37:38] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update filenames of maintenance scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:37:59] Waldir: you need the full, unabridged change ID -- I just amended your commit and it seems to have worked. [04:38:04] huh. it's gotta be the whole thing [04:38:28] I assumed a subset was ok in most user-facing parts of git [04:39:06] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Update filenames of maintenance scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:39:11] I mean git itself allows you to use abridged SHA1s, so it would make sense for gerrit to support that too [04:39:16] Waldir: SHA1 too, apparently. [04:39:26] Sorry for spamming your commit :P [04:39:47] lol, no problem :) [04:40:02] Jak_Atackka: I'm still looking, by the way. [04:40:03] it's quite simple, could you take a look btw? :P [04:40:11] ah ok [04:40:15] nevermind :) [04:40:40] Waldir: sure, I'll take a look in a bit [04:40:50] :D [04:41:17] LOL, the captcha I just got says "Unixhax" [04:41:33] New patchset: Waldir; "Update filenames of maintenance scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:41:53] New patchset: Waldir; "Update filenames of maintenance scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:42:07] Jak_Atackka: how about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat ? [04:43:03] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Fix further non-local effects of library registration" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48784 [04:43:09] I got this earlier today: http://i.imgur.com/fTQA7JS.png [04:45:49] Waldir: well, damn: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46907/ [04:46:18] abridged SHA1 in hash [04:46:22] * Jak_Atackka doesn't like owboners either [04:46:28] you have to enable tim mode [04:46:57] what the ...? what's the secret?? [04:46:59] er, abridged SHA1 hash in commit message that was autolinked, rather. [04:47:06] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 6: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [04:47:39] Waldir: maybe you just had a letter missing (or a letter in excess)? [04:48:33] I refuse to accept that too many chars will make the linking fail. Perhaps to little. I had 7, this one has 9. By Zeus, I'll spam some more and find out! [04:49:26] actually, no, siebrand has +1'd it, I don't want to make him do it again :( [04:52:19] ori-1, that's perfect. Thanks! [04:55:45] np! [04:55:59] ori-l: nevermind reviewing that change, it can't be merged without the other one anyway [04:57:18] if you can, take a look at this instead: http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=010768530259486146519:twowe4zclqy -- it's a custom search engine for everything mediawiki. can you test a query or two and see if it works for you? [04:58:16] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Added --all option and other features to purgeList.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42508 [04:59:02] 03(mod) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 +comment (10mflaschen) [04:59:27] 03(mod) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review (10Matthew Flaschen) [05:01:15] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42508 [05:02:34] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/PageTriage] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48767 [05:03:00] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42508 [05:03:30] Waldir: hey, it's neat. [05:03:40] :) [05:03:51] 03(mod) Pdf export doesn't support {{formatnum:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30634 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [05:04:03] ori-l: if you have any suggestions for improvement, let me know [05:04:51] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749 [05:05:23] I just used it to find out which extensions I had to change as a followup to my previous commit (hence the linking issue) [05:06:23] ...without having to checkout the whole extensions repository first locally so I could grep them (btw is there another way to search all extensions?) [05:07:02] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749 [05:10:35] New review: Spage; "Patch Set 4: Verified-1 Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562 [05:26:34] New patchset: Krinkle; "adjustments to footer cleanup's CSS" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48039 [05:35:05] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48039 [05:37:59] New review: Nikerabbit; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48563 [05:43:48] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48563 [05:46:00] New patchset: Krinkle; "QUnit testrunner: Fix extend call" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48736 [05:46:11] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48736 [05:46:36] New patchset: Amire80; "First code commit" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48787 [05:47:41] 03(mod) Vector skin & extension issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44881 (10Andre Klapper) [05:48:37] 03(mod) Talk page comments disregard the user date/time preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44890 (10Andre Klapper) [05:49:51] 03(mod) Allow different password requirements by group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44788 (10Risker) [05:51:40] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48250 [05:51:42] hexmode: this a better time? [05:52:08] JeroenDeDauw: no, I should be in bed ;) [05:52:11] sup? [05:52:15] 03(mod) Install RightFunctions MediaWiki extension on Arabic Wikipedia (arwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44886 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [05:52:57] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48736 [05:53:17] I hope you're typing something for me to read, JeroenDeDauw, 'cause I'm waiting. [05:54:07] New patchset: Krinkle; "Set $wgUseTidy = false on TextContentTest" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48628 [05:54:29] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48628 [05:56:20] New review: Lalei; "Patch Set 11:" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [06:00:08] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48250 [06:00:24] New review: Nikerabbit; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48787 [06:00:56] * hexmode feels like JeroenDeDauw is messing with him [06:02:51] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Use the content language for all messages" [mediawiki/extensions/NewUserMessage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48069 [06:03:07] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/NewUserMessage] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48069 [06:03:08] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/NewUserMessage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48069 [06:12:03] 03(mod) Languages do not show under certain circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44081 +comment (10mgrover) [06:13:41] 03(mod) Languages do not show under certain circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44081 +comment (10Jon) [06:19:26] New patchset: Krinkle; "Revert "phpcs: Convert var to public in SpecialUserlogin.php"" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48788 [06:21:24] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 +comment (10Jon) [06:22:12] 03(mod) Long Article names on watch list view run right into the start - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44919 (10Jon) [06:22:15] 03(mod) Document deployment step by step on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44913 (10Andre Klapper) [06:22:18] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Andre Klapper) [06:22:55] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48788 [06:23:07] New patchset: J; "Use select form for language instead of input field" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [06:24:40] Change merged: Krinkle; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48788 [06:24:53] 03(mod) Leverage browser cache for JS and CSS (separate requests for common and page-specific things) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44017 +comment (10Jon) [06:25:06] 03(mod) Leverage browser cache for JS and CSS (separate requests for common and page-specific things) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44017 +comment (10jrobson) [06:25:28] 03(mod) EditPage.php assumes mediawiki.action.edit module present (breaks mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44915 normal->major (10Andre Klapper) [06:25:54] 03(mod) Allow wildcard for project in Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44900 +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [06:26:57] 03(mod) EditPage.php assumes mediawiki.action.edit module present (breaks mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44915 major->normal; +comment (10Jon) [06:29:19] 03(mod) Install Page Curation on id.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42322 +comment (10aklapper) [06:29:22] 03(mod) Enable Page Curation on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43829 +comment (10aklapper) [06:29:34] 03(mod) Install Page Curation on et.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44916 normal->15enhancement; +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [06:31:18] New patchset: Krinkle; "phpcs: Pass DefaultSettings.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48111 [06:31:26] 03(mod) Watchlist does not show when a watched article is added or removed from wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44802 +comment (10aklapper) [06:32:01] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [06:32:49] 03(mod) Personal option to hide own changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22213 (10Andre Klapper) [06:32:55] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48765 [06:33:50] 03(mod) Allow wildcard for project in Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44900 +comment (10danny.b) [06:37:33] 03(mod) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [06:37:42] 03(mod) Support for OPTIONS verb (preflight) in API requests when doing CORS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44921 (10Andre Klapper) [06:37:53] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 44635) Fix monobook issue and allow customization by skin." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48790 [06:39:45] 03(mod) Search box attachment off edge of page in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44635 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [06:41:08] New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37430 [06:42:09] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48787 [06:43:30] New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 5: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37430 [06:43:39] New patchset: J; "dont show dimensions for audio files in download dialog" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [06:44:33] Change abandoned: Amire80; "Oops." [mediawiki/extensions/PostEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48787 [06:44:48] 03(mod) Changing local timezone in ko.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44784 +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [06:45:13] can i have +2 please? [06:45:57] 03(mod) Don't set cookie for tooltip tours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44363 (10Matthew Flaschen) [06:46:23] yurik: you have to request that onwiki [06:46:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership [06:47:43] 03(mod) Compatibility with MW 1.19 broken due to NS usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44892 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [06:48:24] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 +comment (10swalling) [06:50:40] 03(mod) Gerrit statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10aklapper) [06:50:52] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [06:50:53] 03(mod) Special:Browse should respect interface language for number display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44910 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [06:50:57] New patchset: Krinkle; "Initial JSDuck implementation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [06:51:18] done, please vote :) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Gerrit_project_ownership#Yurik_for_Core_.2B2 [06:53:23] New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48596 [06:53:35] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48596 [06:53:43] 03(mod) Initial focus on Special:Block is nowhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34211 -easy -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [06:54:46] duh: thx [06:54:56] no problem [06:57:08] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25170 [06:58:33] 03(mod) replace php_sapi_name() with PHP_SAPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37957 -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [06:58:34] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Krinkle) [06:58:34] Hi [06:58:47] !hello [06:58:47] Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot [06:58:49] i am trying to add a bunch of users into a user group i created. [06:58:59] how do i do that? [06:59:22] not one by one. Like a page where i could enter all the usernames i want and all of them to be under a group. [07:00:07] !e UserRightsList [07:00:07] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserRightsList [07:00:17] eagle_: is that what you're looking for? [07:00:38] not sure how stable it is though... [07:00:57] 03(NEW) [Regression] gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ returns "Erro 404 Not Found" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 critical; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [07:02:19] 03(NEW) Bugzilla bugmail via userwatching globalwatchers not working reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44929 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [07:02:33] 03(mod) [Regression] URL pattern gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ broken (Error 404 Not Found) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 +code-update-regression; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [07:02:58] 03(mod) Bugzilla bugmail via userwatching globalwatchers not working reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44929 (10Andre Klapper) [07:03:00] 03(mod) [Regression] URL pattern gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ broken (Error 404 Not Found) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 +comment (10krinklemail) [07:04:09] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add globe to prop of prop=coordinates and list=geosearch" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47874 [07:04:10] New patchset: Krinkle; "Add globe to prop of prop=coordinates and list=geosearch" [mediawiki/extensions/GeoData] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47874 [07:05:57] 03(mod) [Regression] URL pattern gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ broken (Error 404 Not Found) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 +comment (10MZMcBride) [07:06:15] New patchset: Siebrand; "Remove support for Wiki Loves Monuments Mobile" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48792 [07:07:05] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [translatewiki] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48792 [07:07:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48792 [07:07:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "Use select form for language instead of input field" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [07:09:19] 03(NEW) $wgSharedDB broken after 1.19.2 -> 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44930 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [07:09:37] 03(mod) $wgSharedDB broken after 1.19.2 -> 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44930 (10Daniel J Clark) [07:12:39] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Prevent fatal when viewing Special:Types/foobar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48793 [07:14:58] hi duh, that was what i was looking for. but that isnt stable i think. once i install the extension i cant view my specialpages [07:15:12] New review: Nikerabbit; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48601 [07:15:20] heh [07:15:22] Does anyone know how to add many users into group in mediawiki [07:15:24] yeah…its not maintained [07:15:34] Yea :( [07:15:53] I am managing this intranet and i cant add users who are allowed one by one. [07:16:14] 03(mod) Watchlist does not show when a watched article is added or removed from wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44802 +comment (10aude.wiki) [07:16:19] 03(NEW) Geo coords appear to be not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44931 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [07:16:20] ugaga [07:16:51] 03(NEW) Return key doesn't work with the "Add Reviewer" button in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44932 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [07:17:29] guess we need user group membership as part of the api... [07:17:33] who wants to add it? :) [07:17:48] 03(NEW) Geo coords stored incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44933 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [07:18:32] the info is available as part of list=users + meta=siteinfo [07:19:08] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [07:19:25] Change abandoned: Mwjames; "I can abandon this change, since it was part of I65f12559e487" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48741 [07:21:27] New review: Mwjames; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48740 [07:25:41] New patchset: Siebrand; "Prevent fatal when viewing Special:Types/foobar" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48793 [07:26:22] Nikerabbit: is there a bug already for gerrit-wm not relaying the CR comments text in a useful way? [07:27:12] hexmode: you are the one that asked me to ping you! [07:27:20] hi. is there a way i can make a particular page in media wiki accessible only to a particular group of users. [07:27:32] hexmode: so what do you want? :p [07:27:44] I have seen settings on the localsettings.php to block access for entire mediawiki [07:27:51] What if i want to restrict particular pages? [07:28:50] hello Raymond [07:29:49] are you there? [07:29:55] Languaje? [07:31:01] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48793 [07:31:12] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48793 [07:31:33] 03(NEW) No PropertyDisambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44934 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [07:31:52] New patchset: Siebrand; "Don't show dimensions for audio files in download dialog" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [07:33:58] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [07:34:32] 03(mod) $wgSharedDB broken after 1.19.2 -> 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44930 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [07:38:32] hexmode: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Template_talk:Extension/Unmaintained_status [07:43:46] New patchset: Mwjames; "smw.Api.fetch() enable support for local caching (using localStorage)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48740 [07:44:51] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24211 [07:45:33] New review: Mwjames; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48740 [07:47:01] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36778 [07:48:43] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36778 [07:48:47] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36778 [07:49:00] New patchset: Siebrand; "Revert "New collation: zh-zhuyin (bopomofo)."" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48795 [07:49:19] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48795 [07:49:53] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/36778 [07:50:23] New review: Liangent; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48236 [07:51:11] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48795 [07:51:55] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862 [07:52:49] New patchset: Siebrand; "(bug 43172) Tweak account creation interface messages for logged in users" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862 [08:10:04] 03(mod) New mailinglist for education program in Macedonian schools: mk-wpsu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44810 (10dimce.grozdanoski) [08:10:32] New patchset: Pastakhov; "fix typo sl_SI" [mediawiki/extensions/Numbertext] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48796 [08:12:44] Has anyone used the accesscontrol extension?> [08:15:20] 03(mod) Watchlist does not show when a watched article is added or removed from wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44802 +comment (10aude.wiki) [08:15:36] New review: Pastakhov; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Numbertext] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48796 [08:15:37] Change merged: Pastakhov; [mediawiki/extensions/Numbertext] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48796 [08:23:36] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Verified-1 Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: -1 C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862 [08:24:32] 03(mod) wrong feedback links in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44914 +comment (10aklapper) [08:27:23] New patchset: Siebrand; "New collation: zh-zhuyin (bopomofo)." [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48798 [08:28:26] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48798 [08:28:39] !worstcase [08:28:39] Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertising the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. Then you get killed in your sleep by ninjas. [08:28:50] New patchset: Siebrand; "New collation: zh-zhuyin (bopomofo)." [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48798 [08:29:10] !blame [08:29:11] Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. For everything else, there's `git blame`. [08:30:02] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Verified-1 Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/core] (chinese-collation); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48798 [08:30:15] 03(mod) Get Jenkins to rekey its secret - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44592 +comment (10hashar) [08:30:22] New patchset: J; "dont show dimensions for audio files in download dialog" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [08:31:11] New review: Nikerabbit; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48111 [08:31:14] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42362 [08:34:29] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [08:35:14] New review: J; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [08:35:28] 03(mod) Categories marked for translation don't have anything translatable, page display title available only is there's another string to translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44867 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [08:36:21] 03(mod) After move completed, translation units and translation pages are left behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44865 +comment (10federicoleva) [08:37:43] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48111 [08:38:44] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [08:39:16] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [08:46:20] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Some consistency tweaks for I484a24b424e69be3640e63b76f82735edae6f13a" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48801 [08:46:57] 03(NEW) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936 major; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; () [08:47:15] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48802 [08:47:44] New review: MaxSem; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48802 [08:48:10] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48801 [08:49:09] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Trying to fix duplicates on mobile" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48803 [08:49:43] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48802 [08:50:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48801 [08:53:14] New patchset: J; "Use select form for language instead of input field" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [08:53:32] 03(NEW) Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki should have a "fork" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44937 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: EventLogging; () [08:54:10] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38506 [09:00:24] 03(mod) namespace setup for new korean wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44899 (10sotiale) [09:05:07] hi, anyone knows how to create a link to a attached file? I'm using the extension mediawiki-PageAttachment [09:05:23] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48806 [09:05:43] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 12: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/SpecialNamespaces] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39720 [09:06:07] New review: MaxSem; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48806 [09:06:15] 03(mod) Add and use parser function for signature timestamps (four/five tildes) to show them to the user in preferred locale and timezone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25476 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [09:07:37] 03(mod) Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki should have a "fork" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44937 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [09:07:45] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf8) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48806 [09:07:56] 03(mod) Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki should have a "fork" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44937 +comment (10ori) [09:10:12] 03(mod) Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki should have a "fork" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44937 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:10:37] 03(NEW) Create a mailing list for Maithili (mai) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44938 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; () [09:13:08] 03(mod) Create a mailing list for Maithili (mai) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44938 (10Rajesh Ranjan) [09:14:09] New patchset: MaxSem; "Update MobileFrontend to production tip" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48807 [09:14:24] New review: MaxSem; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48807 [09:15:59] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48807 [09:16:06] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [09:18:51] hi. [09:18:55] 03(NEW) Expose the categories status in mw.config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44939 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; () [09:18:55] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2114 (10Danny B.) [09:19:08] i am having difficulty in finding out what is the namespace of a particular category in my mediawiki. [09:19:13] Can anyone help me out with that pls? [09:19:30] What? [09:19:59] i created pages in mediawiki. i do not know what the namespace is. [09:20:11] in an extension i want to block the view permission for one page. [09:20:18] and i need to enter the namespace of that page [09:20:33] New review: Hashar; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48744 [09:20:37] MediaWiki wasn't designed for granular read restrictions like that. [09:21:08] i know. i added an extension.. [09:21:15] eagle_: by default articles are created in the main namespace which has no prefix. [09:21:38] i want only a particular article in the main namespace. [09:21:42] eagle_: aka the "Foobar" article in the main namespace is named "Foobar". It is saved in the database with namespace == 0 and page_name == "Foobar". [09:21:48] I'm saying that the extension likely isn't secure. [09:21:48] its Category R&D for me [09:22:02] If the page contains sensitive info, it will likely be exposed. [09:22:03] for categories [09:22:35] the categories pages have their own namespace named "Category" which is known internally as NS_CATEGORY and has the namespace index 14. [09:23:04] $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown['Category:R&D']['read'] = array('allowgroup'); [09:23:17] so if i enter 14 it will block all categories right? [09:23:28] no idea [09:23:37] what if i want only this particular category to be blocked. [09:23:38] 03(mod) In Gerrit tab size setting has no effect after upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44891 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:23:40] let me read the doc page for that extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown ) [09:24:04] eagle_: so yeah apparently this is mean for per namespace permissions. [09:24:04] Oh, there's a large note at the top of the page. [09:24:05] Good. [09:24:27] yes. [09:24:28] its thre [09:24:34] eagle_: so $wgNamespacePermissionLockDown[NS_CATEGORY]['read'] = array( 'sysop' ); would only let sysop to read the Category pages [09:24:44] eagle_: but the page might still be accessible in some way or another though [09:25:04] New review: Nikerabbit; "Patch Set 5: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48445 [09:25:09] yea. thats correct. i will work on that after i get this one right. [09:25:15] eagle_: like someone might still see the page in Special:RecentChanges or look at it via the diff action [09:25:24] NS_CATEGORY blocks it from all categories right? [09:25:53] eagle_: probably [09:26:15] what if i want to target just one particular category? [09:26:15] New patchset: Spage; "Change userlogin to new appearance" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30637 [09:26:27] eagle_: that extension does not seem to support it [09:26:43] eagle_: do you want to prevent reading of any pages part of a specific category ? [09:26:44] 03(mod) Cortado doesn't work on Mac with Oracle JRE 7 update 9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41274 (10Andre Klapper) [09:26:52] yes. [09:26:57] a specific category [09:27:17] if i give NS_CATEGORY it restricts from all cateogories [09:27:29] eagle_: so we don't really support that. Some extension might exist though [09:27:33] so if i can find a way to restrict it to that particulat category it will be great [09:28:01] there are two officials ways to support such restrictions: [09:28:12] yes? and those are? [09:28:31] 1) get another software such as Confluence or dokuwiki or some other CMS, they do support fine permissions [09:28:41] 2) get your restricted content on a second wiki. [09:28:49] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48445 [09:29:00] @hashar, are you the author of the extension Lockdown? [09:29:18] as an example the wikimedia foundation as an internal wiki for employees : https://office.wikimedia.org/ Content there is only readable by Wikimedia employees [09:29:25] eagle_: nop [09:29:34] eagle_: Lockdown has been written by DanielK_WMDE apparently :-] [09:29:50] oh. are you sure it doesnt support per category? [09:29:53] eagle_: and it does not seem to support blacking listing pages part of a specific extension. [09:30:09] heh, no more rebase button on gerrit? [09:30:10] hmm yea :( [09:31:07] eagle_: MediaWiki is not really meant for such restrictions sorry :( [09:31:16] though we do support some kind of restrictions, they are not really guaranted [09:31:30] the only sure way to make sure it works is to setup a second (restricted) wiki [09:31:32] sorry :( [09:31:36] Yea. thats pretty much what i have got from all extensions :( [09:31:42] :( [09:31:48] You dont need to be sorry hashar. :) thanks for the help though [09:31:54] maybe another wiki system will fit your needs better [09:32:06] yea probably. [09:32:26] I do recommend DokuWiki for companies [09:32:32] it is small easy, well maintained [09:33:00] hashar, if they have no more than 10 pages, yes [09:33:13] eagle_: and DokuWiki supports finely grained permissions. Ex: https://www.dokuwiki.org/acl#acls_by_example [09:33:50] yup . have seen that one . [09:33:51] thanks [09:33:56] eagle_: but that might not support categories nor blacklisting pages belonging to a category. Though it does support ACL by namespace. [09:34:10] eagle_: so you will want to put your R&D stuff in a R&D category or something [09:34:30] which in turn is what Lockdown extension is doing hehe [09:34:39] yea. i think so . if this aint secure, i ll create a new one i guess with complete restriction [09:34:44] MaxSem: that is the case for ton of companies internal wikis I believe :-] [09:37:10] 03(mod) Comment or downvote if there is text before the PHP tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44875 normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:41:20] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48744 [09:42:54] JeroenDeDauw: It only shows the rebase button if it's actually needed [09:43:13] Reedy: define "needed"? [09:43:48] ie already latest? [09:43:54] *not [09:44:01] Not sure [09:44:05] Check the docs [09:44:12] related to: [09:44:12] Submit Type Merge if Necessary [09:44:13] Status Review in Progress [09:44:13] Can Merge Yes [09:45:08] Morning, Reedy. [09:48:08] 03(mod) Expose the categories status in mw.config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44939 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:48:19] Hi [09:48:48] New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Avoid warnings when /en does not exist" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48808 [09:51:02] hashar: hmm.. perhaps we should start following PSR-0 before looking at extensions? :p [09:51:32] My code new is following it exactly, though clearly core is not, as namespaces are FORBIDDEN there [09:51:34] lol [09:52:19] JeroenDeDauw: yeah we are not going to fully support the PSR-X [09:52:30] JeroenDeDauw: I just cherry picked some PSR-2 rules we happen to follow [09:55:27] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30637 [10:02:15] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [translatewiki] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48803 [10:02:51] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48803 [10:05:20] 03(mod) Add some navigation links to header of item pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44876 +comment (10Yuri Astrakhan) [10:06:22] New patchset: Darkdadaah; "Import anagrimes scripts as of 2013-02-13, first developed on the toolserver." [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48810 [10:12:04] New patchset: Darkdadaah; "delete svn files" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48811 [10:12:12] 03(mod) Gerrit needs a very wide screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 +comment (10federicoleva) [10:12:28] 03(NEW) Langlinks [edit] link should point to langlinks section of WikiData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44940 critical; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:13:28] 03(mod) The way to deal with FS limitations should be documented in the specs. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43963 (10Andre Klapper) [10:15:52] 03(mod) WikipageEntityLookup fails on setups that have a table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43229 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [10:16:19] 03(mod) ULS places map sections backward in RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44455 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:16:52] New review: Darkdadaah; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48810 [10:16:52] Change merged: Darkdadaah; [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48810 [10:17:24] New review: Darkdadaah; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48811 [10:17:25] Change merged: Darkdadaah; [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48811 [10:17:27] 03(mod) Langlinks [edit] link should point to langlinks section of WikiData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44940 (10Legoktm) [10:17:27] 03(mod) Add some navigation links to header of item pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44876 (10Legoktm) [10:17:57] 03(mod) Langlinks [edit] link should point to langlinks section of Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44940 summary (10Legoktm) [10:20:36] 03(NEW) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 normal; MediaWiki: Database; () [10:22:37] 03(mod) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 (10cs.saraswathi) [10:23:11] 03(mod) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 (10cs.saraswathi) [10:23:29] 03(mod) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 (10cs.saraswathi) [10:23:32] Hi. i am looking to add userrights to a bunch of users for my intranet. [10:23:36] i cant do it one by one. [10:23:39] 03(mod) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 (10cs.saraswathi) [10:23:44] can you suggest a simple way to do this? [10:28:44] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1:" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48810 [10:30:04] 03(mod) ProofreadPage namespaces for Finnish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40759 +comment (10jafeluv) [10:32:42] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48808 [10:33:55] 03(mod) ProofreadPage namespaces for Finnish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40759 15enhancement->normal (10Niklas Laxström) [10:34:24] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48808 [10:37:39] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48744 [10:38:12] 03(mod) Comment or downvote if there is text before the PHP tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44875 +comment (10mflaschen) [10:40:39] 03(mod) ProofreadPage namespaces for Finnish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40759 +comment (10Nemo) [10:41:01] 03(mod) redirecting domain tartupeedia.ee to Wikipedia page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44893 +comment (10raunator) [10:41:23] hey., [10:41:33] i need to add a bunch of users in a group in mediawiki [10:41:36] how do i do that? [10:41:44] i do not want to do it one by one [10:44:03] 03(NEW) Property talk pages should have the name of the property at the top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44942 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:45:24] eagle_: There are maintenance scripts in the maintenance directory. [10:45:26] You could use those. [10:45:37] Or there's a robust Web API at api.php. [10:46:16] 03(mod) Item and Property talk pages should have the name of the item/property at the top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44942 summary; +comment (10Legoktm) [10:47:36] New patchset: Aude; "(bug 44459) Implement mw.message.text():" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48813 [10:47:36] hi Susan where do i find the api.php [10:47:48] and if i were to use the one under maintenance , which script would that be? [10:47:52] Do you see index.php in the URL bar/ [10:47:52] ? [10:47:57] New patchset: Merlijn van Deen; "Moved to TWN, test whether the deployment really works..." [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48814 [10:48:01] createAndPromote.php, probably. [10:49:03] 03(mod) Improve MediaWiki:Dberrortext to link to a config-defined status page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/398 +comment (10Sucheta Ghoshal) [10:50:16] 03(mod) Error while deleting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44941 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:50:24] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/I0d220692262356a12e2f1c0ce30cf6f090428332,n,z < Apparently Gerrit allows multiple changes with the same change-id... (and with 'changes', I do not mean 'patchsets') [10:51:01] 03(mod) Schema namespace on Meta-Wiki should have a "fork" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44937 +comment (10b) [10:51:31] Hi susan. i see index.php in my url bar [10:51:34] when i open my wiki [10:51:45] Change abandoned: Merlijn van Deen; "(no reason)" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48814 [10:51:47] Replace "index.php" with "api.php". [10:52:00] And strip off (remove) all the parts after "api.php". [10:52:10] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php <-- Example. [10:52:18] 03(mod) Implement claim difference visualization in DiffView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44095 (10tobias.gritschacher) [10:53:33] yes i see the same thing for my intranet as well [10:53:38] but where do i add users? [10:54:47] i see a * list=allusers (au) * [10:54:52] but how do i view them? [10:56:30] you should read the API docs https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API [10:56:43] 03(mod) Improve MediaWiki:Dberrortext to link to a config-defined status page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/398 +comment (10federicoleva) [10:57:11] yea i read them. but i am unsure how to add userrights there. [10:58:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:User_group_membership [11:03:52] 03(NEW) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [11:06:15] 03(mod) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943 +easy (10MZMcBride) [11:06:57] 03(mod) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943 (10MZMcBride) [11:09:54] 03(NEW) searchmenu-new message is shown twice when resultset is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44944 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:17:08] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48813 [11:17:45] 03(mod) Missing i18n support for book generation progress messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17702 +comment (10Nemo) [11:18:45] 03(NEW) Database name vs. language code when undeleting items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44945 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:21:35] 03(NEW) Allow use of inclusion syntax on repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44946 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:21:58] New review: Hashar; "Patch Set 7:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43176 [11:22:20] New patchset: Hashar; "Jenkins validation test (do not submit).\." [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43176 [11:22:46] i'm reeaaaly leaning towards dropping XML from the API [11:23:15] bye bye XML, you served us well [11:23:15] Change abandoned: Hashar; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43176 [11:23:16] ooohhhh? [11:23:29] 03(mod) Get Jenkins to rekey its secret - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44592 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:23:33] JSON all the way :) [11:24:17] we will get an increase in the cache hit rate [11:24:47] and won't have to futz around with tag names, etc [11:26:36] 03(mod) [Regression] URL pattern gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ broken (Error 404 Not Found) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 +comment (10innocentkiller) [11:27:16] 03(mod) Return key doesn't work with the "Add Reviewer" button in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44932 +comment (10innocentkiller) [11:30:38] 03(mod) Tooltips should appear on hover, fade away on mouseout (like with AFT) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28322 +comment (10nischayn22) [11:31:46] 03(mod) Current version being displayed as old revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44661 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:33:52] 03(mod) paging for entity selection in statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44677 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:35:36] 03(mod) Trailing slashes in Gerrit URLs are kind of nasty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42419 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:35:37] 03(mod) [Regression] URL pattern gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/ID/ broken (Error 404 Not Found) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44928 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:37:20] 03(mod) Categories marked for translation don't have anything translatable, page display title available only is there's another string to translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44867 +comment (10Paul Kaganer) [11:38:08] 03(NEW) Remove "requires JavaScript" from preference texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44947 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [11:38:08] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [11:39:43] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [11:39:53] New patchset: Krinkle; "Initial JSDuck implementation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239 [11:40:04] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "rename SelectionRequest to Selection and ThisSelection to SubjectSelection" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [11:45:03] New review: Darkdadaah; "Patch Set 1:" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48810 [11:45:51] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48628 [11:50:13] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48628 [11:50:34] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9804 [11:51:09] 03(mod) Current version being displayed as old revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44661 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [11:51:38] Krenair: 3 problems from a commit of yours https://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Krenair [11:51:57] 03(mod) ProofreadPage namespaces for Finnish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40759 (10timothyausten) [11:57:57] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Generate & show sample PHP / JavaScript in Schema NS" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561 [11:59:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [11:59:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Added direction field to SortExpression" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48823 [12:00:51] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Generate & show sample PHP / JavaScript in Schema NS" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561 [12:01:43] how do I add a tab in a wikipage? [12:02:10] @ Nemo_bis :) ^ [12:03:15] you don't? :) [12:03:30] in what context do you want it [12:05:29] text blah blah blah more text and more text [12:06:33] we use double newlines and paragaphs follow that [12:07:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Kick out isSingleton method. Apparently it is not used in the SMW query engine at all" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48824 [12:07:38] matanya: fr.source and so on transform it in normal (French?) paragraphs; maybe you could copy a tab from a text editor or similar things but generally it's not considered a good idea on our wikis, dunno elsewhere [12:07:48] matanya: you can put 
 around it
[12:08:05] 	 
lala    foo

[12:09:18] 	 Nemo_bis: it is in a private wiki, don't worry... thank you Nemo_bis and mutante 
[12:09:49] 	 pre does way more than adding a tab :o
[12:10:21] 	 if you just want to indent a block of text use 
...
[12:10:26] 	 well, it says it is pre-formatted and shouldnt be touched otherwise.. right
[12:11:01] 	 03(mod) formlink - have an option to open form in a new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44240  +comment (10Neill Mitchell)
[12:11:15] 	 03(mod) Rename wfArrayToCGI to wfArrayToCgi for consistency with wfCgiToArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36537  (10Krinkle)
[12:12:24] 	 03(mod) Page number attribute for  tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:14:37] 	 03(mod) Add ability for section description of gadgets section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44233  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:14:41] 	 03(mod) Add utility buttons to [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] such as "(un)select all", "invert selection", etc.. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36321  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:01] 	 03(mod) Add hooks to SpecialNewpages class to allow an extension to customize UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41048  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:05] 	 03(mod) Add a feature to indicate in [[Special:NewPages]] unreviewed changes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41047  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:21] 	 03(mod) Pages with FlaggedRevisions protection set should give the latest-flagged version through search engine "API feeds" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41003  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:38] 	 03(mod) API: add reviewed|!reviewed to rcshow and wlshow to filter for reviewed pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32489  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:16:01] 	 hi
[12:16:25] 	 03(mod) Support Media RSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34033  -accessibility  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:17:23] 	 03(mod) Request to host openzim.org wiki at the WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44465  +comment (10kelson)
[12:17:26] 	 !hi
[12:17:26] 	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: hiddencategories, hidetabs, hidetoc, highlight, 
[12:18:37] 	 I'd like to display a notice on every page that was last edited at some time x or even longer ago. To be flexible, I suppose that notice should preferably be a Template. Is there some way to inject my template into every page / every page older than x ?
[12:19:04] 	 isnt that in the footer?
[12:20:15] 	 03(mod) FeaturedFeeds extension: Set feed limit for monthly featured articles on la.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33978  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:20:20] 	 03(mod) Special:FeedItem should list all available items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33976  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:20:22] 	 duh: i think of a big notice directly below the title, like a "Under Construction" sign on WP
[12:20:31] 	 03(mod) Include git submodules, by default, or optionally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44022  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:20:31] 	 oh
[12:20:38] 	 well you can use a parserfunction + magicwords
[12:20:39] 	 03(mod) Special:ExpandTemplates shouldn't provide useless section edit links when context title is not specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35428  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:21:03] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Technical_metadata <-- {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}
[12:21:07] 	 !e ParserFunctions
[12:21:07] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions
[12:21:31] 	 03(mod) GeoData extension needs way to specify "no coordinates relevant" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42834  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:21:35] 	 duh: yes. but i would have to touch each site and include the template, which would change their modification dates and defeat the whole purpose
[12:21:36] 	 03(mod) coordinates for globe with wrap = true does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44216  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:21:48] 	 03(mod) Add globe to prop of prop=coordinates and list=geosearch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44403  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:21:49] 	 hm
[12:21:54] 	 not sure how to do that
[12:21:58] 	 03(mod) Database name vs. language code when undeleting items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44945  (10jeblad)
[12:21:59] 	 03(mod) geodata api: call the param filtercoordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44404  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:22:04] 	 maybe sitenotice?
[12:22:16] 	 03(mod) Add global file usage count to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41367  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:22:25] 	 03(mod) Provide an API that just outputs the count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36912  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:22:28] 	 03(mod) Implement 'dir' for prop=globalusage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32402  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:22:44] 	 duh: seemed to me that one is global and not very much linked to the current article
[12:23:05] 	 right
[12:23:09] 	 i'm really not too sure
[12:23:15] 	 03(mod) Let LocalisationUpdate update zh conversion table from trunk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34034  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:23:23] 	 03(mod) editintro, preload should appear in What links here - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38889  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:23:32] 	 03(mod) Sortable search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38403  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:24:50] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48635
[12:27:01] 	 03(mod) Add Support for Farsi Digits and Scripts in LaTeX Mathematical Formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30463   +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:08] 	 03(mod) Output TeX code in script elements for MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35479  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:13] 	 03(mod) Create an option for PNG+MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35480  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:28] 	 03(mod) Add stix font for mathjax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35498  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:48] 	 03(mod) Errors in TeX code should be reported to users using MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35556  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:27:57] 	 03(mod) Provide a special page to test and preview formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39962  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:28:10] 	 03(mod) MathJax don't render correctly in TOC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38641  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:28:28] 	 03(mod) \acute{i} is not rendered as �, but as an acute accent over an 'i' with a dot - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38721  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[12:28:41] 	 03(mod) \acute not working inside \mbox in MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38722  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:29:05] 	 03(mod) Mathjax is very slow with webfonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38751   +performance (10Andre Klapper)
[12:29:44] 	 03(mod) Mathjax font is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38752  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:29:55] 	 03(mod) MathJax displays raw HTML for  inside attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41677  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:30:10] 	 03(mod) MathJax not detecting MathPlayer IE plugin (and derivatives) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42808  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:30:38] 	 03(mod) [ and ] shortkeys not working in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40640  +comment (10Nemo)
[12:30:54] 	 03(mod) Review LaTeXML branch of Extension:Math for deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43222  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:31:13] 	 03(mod) Check for login on Special:CreateItem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41882  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:31:45] 	 03(mod) Failure to install Math Extension / TeX: dvipng issue? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44469  normal->major; summary (10Andre Klapper)
[12:32:01] 	 03(mod) Retina support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44672  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[12:32:20] 	 03(mod) Math unable to handle currencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44675  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:35:12] 	 03(mod) "Purge user page everytime when you login or logout" option should be done away with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40603  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:35:43] 	 03(mod) Mathjax is very slow with webfonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38751  +comment (10psubhashish)
[12:36:08] 	 03(mod) Allow callbacks also to make more complex replacements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35457  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:36:17] 	 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut to toggle between currently using layouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37444  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:36:36] 	 03(mod) Allow MultiUpload to handle one description for file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29075  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:36:39] 	 Dereckson: let me know if you want to chat today, I was distracted yesterday
[12:37:52] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia, commons interwiki link and others are broken by custom JS on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41943  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:38:04] 	 03(mod) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:39:19] 	 03(mod) Add ProofreadPage status to MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41369  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:40:11] 	 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:40:30] 	 03(mod) Embed ProofreadPage images in CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36399  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:42:03] 	 @notify mitevam
[12:42:03] 	 I will notify you, when I see mitevam around here
[12:43:36] 	 andre__?
[12:43:40] 	 03(mod) Making widget-container configurable for different Instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37678   +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:43:41] 	 @notify andre__
[12:43:41] 	 This user is now online in #wikimedia-dev so I will let you know when they show some activity (talk etc)
[12:43:45] 	 petan, yes?
[12:43:46] 	 03(NEW) Navigation Popup gadget should work with language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44948 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:43:47] 	 hey
[12:43:52] 	 I have a question
[12:44:03] 	 is it possible to create some kind of alias on product in bugzilla?
[12:44:15] 	 03(mod) Add "reverse" for namespace selection on advanced Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17734  summary; +comment (10Nemo)
[12:44:41] 	 petan, many things are possible - best to start first which problem you see, then we can discuss one potential solution for it :)
[12:44:49] 	 s//to explain/
[12:44:49] 	 03(NEW) no upload possible what mysql database contains a "." in its name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44949 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; ()
[12:45:08] 	 aha since the product I meant disappeared I think it's already solved
[12:45:17] 	 there used to be a category for wm-bot somewhere
[12:45:19] 	 03(mod) Add utility buttons to [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] such as "(un)select all", "invert selection", etc.. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36321   +javascript (10Helder)
[12:45:21] 	 it's gone....
[12:45:27] 	 03(mod) Implement initial TemplateData extension (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44445  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:45:38] 	 03(mod) Add Support for Farsi Digits and Scripts in LaTeX Mathematical Formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30463  +comment (10fred.wang)
[12:45:48] 	 petan, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Tools
[12:45:55] 	 the thing is people has often requests to same changes to bot and I hoped they would use bugzilla for that instead of telling me on irc which I forget
[12:45:56] 	 still there
[12:46:01] 	 ah, there it is
[12:46:09] 	 it's quite empty
[12:46:14] 	 03(mod) enable namespace inversion (&invert=1) for other special: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14485  (10Nemo)
[12:46:16] 	 03(mod) Add "reverse" for namespace selection on advanced Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17734  (10Nemo)
[12:46:25] 	 so I wanted to make it somehow simpler for them to find out there is actually a category for it
[12:46:27] 	 petan, point them to Bugzilla. :D Everytime somebody asks me about changing something in Bugzilla I answer "File me a bug report" :)
[12:46:55] 	 oh it's already called WM-Bot in that case it's ok
[12:47:01] 	 03(mod) enable namespace inversion (&invert=1) for other special: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14485  (10Nemo)
[12:47:04] 	 "Bugzilla is completely broken" => "File a bug in bugzilla"
[12:47:04] 	 03(mod) Consolidate special pages with namespace selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4204  (10Nemo)
[12:47:07] 	 petan, point them bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Tools&component=WM-Bot
[12:47:09] 	 I thought it was called with the proper project name which is different...
[12:47:22] 	 Reedy, downtime doesn't count ;)
[12:47:27] 	 03(mod) no upload possible what mysql database contains a "." in its name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44949  (10keyler)
[12:47:40] 	 mhm I think I will need to put that link somewhere
[12:48:26] 	 petan, that link is for filing new reports. If you want existing and open reports: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&component=WM-Bot&product=Tools
[12:48:38] 	 yup I needed the one to fill a bug
[12:48:42] 	 I will put it on wiki
[12:48:44] 	 03(mod) Real-time indexes (Sphinx 2.0.1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30839  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:48:46] 	 03(mod) SphinxSearch to support faceted search, browsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32203  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:49:16] 	 03(mod) Extension:Sort doesn't handle negative numbers well; maybe it needs a special "numeric mode" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44451  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:49:26] 	 petan: you could have something like !botbug point to the "enter a new bug about the bot" link :-)
[12:49:34] 	 btw thank you for working on and maintaining the bot petan 
[12:49:35] 	 or that...
[12:49:47] 	 well I was hoping more people than me would maintain it
[12:49:50] 	 some actually do
[12:49:53] 	 like Damianz
[12:49:54] 	 :P
[12:50:13] 	 more people = better [[bus factor[[
[12:50:21] 	 s/r[[/r]]/
[12:50:30] 	 03(mod) user_points_{weekly,monthy} tables are not created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44607  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:50:40] 	 03(mod) Avatar Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34008  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:50:46] 	 03(mod) no upload possible when mysql database contains a "." in its name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44949  (10keyler)
[12:51:23] 	 lo ...
[12:53:10] 	 03(mod) Inverse selection for [[Special:Log]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11739   +platformeng (10Nemo)
[12:55:01] 	 hi freakolowsky!
[12:55:07] 	 freakolowsky: did you get that package of stickers?
[12:55:51] 	 New review: J; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48635
[12:57:23] 	 not yet ... but regular snailmail tend to be a bit ... well ... snailish
[13:02:50] 	 i just got around to scan trough the mailing list and i noticed a conversation about getting MW usable for corporate needs ... has there been any debates here about that topic?
[13:03:21] 	 freakolowsky: maybe hard to know though
[13:03:27] 	 freakolowsky: since IRC is sync :-]   AFAIK everything has been talked on wikitech-l
[13:05:41] 	 the thing is i have made a ext for MW for that that i use on our farms ... maybe i could push it in repo ... but that's still on 1.17 ... haven't had time to update lately
[13:05:57] 	 take on a few new project they said ....
[13:06:13] 	 it won't take that much more of your time they saind ...
[13:06:23] 	 ... they lied
[13:06:44] 	 anyone active now who can help me? how to apply a template to all pages (older than some date x) without editing pages?
[13:06:49] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts on the Javanese projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43359  (10bennylin)
[13:06:51] 	 03(mod) Enable WebFonts on the Buginese Wikipedia (bugwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34550  (10bennylin)
[13:07:21] 	 azrael1: how fluent are you in SQL?
[13:07:23] 	 :D
[13:07:48] 	 freakolowsky: oO that was not the way i thought i'd have to go
[13:08:42] 	 personaly i don't know of any other way ... but as i work with SQL all the time i wouldn't even look for other options
[13:11:29] 	 hello humans
[13:11:54] 	 is there anything i can do to force images to remain within a subheading.. like, you know, == one of these ==
[13:12:37] 	 i am trying to make a very image-centric how-to article here and it's impossible because the text keeps creeping up alongside the images instead of fucking off below them where its supposed to, and i'm pretty sure there is a tag thing i can put in the images to forcibly make them take precedence
[13:12:40] 	 but i cant remember it.
[13:12:44] 	 or maybe i'm insane and it doesnt exist
[13:12:48] 	 either way i need help
[13:12:49] 	 heja Nemo_bis, could you elaborate why 11739 is platformeng?
[13:13:52] 	 nvm center tag did it.. not what i was thinking of but meh
[13:13:55] 	 jellydonut, is that http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Force_images_not_to_overlap_separators  ?
[13:17:09] 	 freakolowsky: the mediawiki-enterprise list is also one to check out
[13:17:17] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 10: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/5588
[13:17:33] 	 re getting MediaWiki better for corporations
[13:17:49] 	 03(mod) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[13:18:03] 	 03(mod) wbsetclaimvalue - autocomment required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41166  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[13:18:16] 	 03(mod) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[13:18:46] 	 03(mod) Update Javanese keymap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43809  +comment (10bknliem)
[13:19:14] 	 ..something like that yes but i'm using the center tag instead. inelegant and ugly, but the wiki page i am replacing was also inelegant and ugly, so it's fine :p
[13:19:18] 	 03(mod) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[13:19:36] 	 03(mod) Chunked uploads returning continue instead of success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44923  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[13:20:32] 	 sumanah: hm ... didn't know we hat that  ... 
[13:20:37] 	 *had
[13:21:08] 	 New review: Reedy; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48813
[13:22:06] 	 reading that, andre__, i also have no idea what it says.
[13:22:18] 	 i'm just a humble jelly donut editing a wiki. i meant wiki syntax, not.. web developer stuff
[13:22:33] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44092
[13:23:14] 	 jellydonut, that link is about wiki syntax
[13:25:36] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48813
[13:25:52] 	 
 isn't wiki syntax, and i've tried doing what it says, it doesn't work and i clearly don't understand what they're trying to tell me to do :p
[13:26:20] 	 i placed that thing before the sub section title, didnt do jack and shit
[13:26:50] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback 5 - Disable moderation tools for your own posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37532  +comment (10se4598)
[13:27:13] 	 03(mod) Switching to a non-whitelisted language shows wrong error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44436  (10bennylin)
[13:27:53] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48635
[13:28:39] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/34677
[13:28:39] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Verified-1" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: -1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48635
[13:31:53] 	 03(mod) ChangeNotification failed to load deleted revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44911  +comment (10Anja Jentzsch)
[13:32:17] 	 03(mod) Please restrict anonymous users from creating new pages at sw.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42894  (10bennylin)
[13:37:08] 	 03(mod) Implement button for marking all N changes as patrolled in a multi-edit span diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8697  (10bennylin)
[13:38:44] 	 03(mod) Filter Recent Changes by user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4664  (10bennylin)
[13:39:52] 	 03(mod) Default edit summary when editing old revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4765  (10bennylin)
[13:40:27] 	 03(mod) Render self-referring interwiki links as bold - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5126  (10bennylin)
[13:40:48] 	 03(mod) Send optional, selectable boilerplate message to users upon page deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5203  (10bennylin)
[13:41:10] 	 03(mod) Group changes across days in enhanced rc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8681  (10bennylin)
[13:41:28] 	 03(mod) Highlight the section title for section linking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10476  (10bennylin)
[13:41:37] 	 03(mod) Add time of last search index update to Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6090  (10bennylin)
[13:41:46] 	 03(mod) Provide a count in Special pages that list articles/pages (e.g. special:whatlinkshere) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4394  (10bennylin)
[13:41:52] 	 03(mod) Special pages that list includeonly links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5178  (10bennylin)
[13:45:57] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 8: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17216
[13:48:40] 	 andre__: the question seems to be "will this melt WMF cluster or not?", while "performance" is about performance issues for everyone
[13:48:50] 	 that's what I thought but I've no idea if it's the correct usage
[13:49:50] 	 if it hasn't melted it in the last five years... :)
[13:50:04] 	 but yeah, I was curious which interpretation you have for that keyword. Because I also wonder myself.
[13:51:09] 	 03(mod) Change bcl.wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44879  +comment (10bustrias)
[13:53:04] 	 :)
[13:57:26] 	 03(NEW) Statement input field is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44950 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[13:57:35] 	 03(NEW) Statement input field is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44951 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[13:58:00] 	 hi mitevam how are you?
[14:01:31] 	 hi sumanah:) i'm good, my grandma just burned some pumpkin pie so it was a smelly smoky chaos but all good now :) how about you?
[14:02:33] 	 ha! My spouse made some brownies the other day that are REALLY GOOD http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2013/02/salted-caramel-brownies/ and I'm going to go cowork someplace today and bring them the leftovers
[14:02:44] 	 03(mod) $wgSharedDB broken after 1.19.2 -> 1.19.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44930  +comment (10dclark)
[14:03:01] 	 JeroenDeDauw: this message is amusingly hard to understand :) https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/About_MediaWiki:Maps-displaymap-par-visitedicon/en_%286%29
[14:03:09] 	 mitevam: is there anything specific you'd like to talk about today or ask?
[14:03:43] 	 03(mod) Feedback text overlaps with personal bar on Tamil Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34681  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:04:26] 	 also this music video is very cheering to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=08WeoqWilRQ 
[14:06:22] 	 03(mod) Filter list is lost when scrolling down in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36629  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:07:44] 	 sumanah did i tell you I auditioned to be a cheerleader in college but didn't make it...I guess I was a little old to start 
[14:08:24] 	 sumanah I am thinking of what would be appropriate places to link to this page from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_development_and_consultancy
[14:08:26] 	 mitevam: No, I didn't know that!  I bet you could have been a good cheerleader
[14:08:46] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44005
[14:09:14] 	 mitevam: Start with that Jobs page, I think
[14:09:22] 	 and the enterprise hub
[14:13:46] 	 New review: Yurik; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40337
[14:14:00] 	 mitevam: nice!
[14:14:50] 	 Two comments: (1) I think "consulting" would be a better word than "consultancy".
[14:15:09] 	 "consultancy" means a single consulting firm - see http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/consultancy
[14:15:30] 	 And (2) that highlighting thing is odd.
[14:16:15] 	 I happen to know that some of those unhighlighted people/companies are, in fact, responsive.
[14:17:03] 	 yaron: Then please get them to respond to her emails :-)
[14:17:19] 	 yaron: I believe that's the yardstick she's using for whether they're responsive or not.
[14:17:31] 	 Yes, I understand, but it's not a good yardstick.
[14:17:40] 	 It's the best we have.
[14:17:49] 	 Responsiveness is just something that's hard to authoritatively state, unfortunately.
[14:18:04] 	 I actually think the empirical "did or did not respond to my email" is adequate.
[14:18:15] 	 yaron I will remove the highlighting thing soon 
[14:18:18] 	 I agree with you about "consultancy"
[14:18:21] 	 Well, maybe there shouldn't be a yardstick at all - I mean, there's a big disclaimer at the top saying that listing on that page doesn't constitute any sort of endorsement.
[14:18:34] 	 Okay, cool.
[14:18:42] 	 Yeah, the highlighting is going away anyway once Mariya doesn't need to track it anymore because her internship is ending.
[14:19:04] 	 The disclaimer then might also cover a disclaimer on the accuracy of the "responsive-or-not" highlighting then :-)
[14:19:34] 	 yaron: More seriously, if you see some folks there who haven't been highlighted as responsive, please do reach out to them and get them to participate in the conversation Mariya's trying to lead.
[14:20:01] 	 Well... is it going away or not? I don't know whether this discussion needs to continue. :)
[14:20:02] 	 (If you know them to generally be responsive.)
[14:20:40] 	 It's going away, but for the time period when the highlighting is sticking around so Mariya can use it, I suggest you say whatever you need to say. :-)
[14:20:52] 	 yaron thanks for the consultancy remark, sooo is there a way to do this small edit other than "moving" the page
[14:20:57] 	 No.
[14:21:01] 	 Sorry.
[14:21:22] 	 sumanah: but mitevam said she was removing it soon.
[14:21:34] 	 Yes.
[14:21:40] 	 Her internship ends at the end of March.
[14:21:46] 	 That's pretty soon.
[14:21:55] 	 Oh. Okay, I guess.
[14:23:13] 	 Well, no one has an obligation to join in on the "corporate MediaWiki" conversation - and I don't think miteva sent out an email of the form "are you active?".
[14:23:30] 	 So it's not that good a proxy, in my opinion.
[14:23:36] 	 03(mod) Statement input field is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44951  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:23:37] 	 03(mod) Statement input field is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44950  +comment (10aklapper)
[14:23:55] 	 yaron I wanted to bring the list out to be more visible as soon as possible ( weren't you one of the advocates of having that?) but I guess it has to be a little odd for a while. 
[14:24:08] 	 Why does it have to be odd?
[14:25:07] 	 yaron I have been poking a lot of people to see if they are active privately as well, and I am not claiming that lack of reply means that they are INACTIVE 
[14:25:51] 	 mitevam: okay, I didn't know that you've been trying to assess that exact question.
[14:26:17] 	 Still, it's strange - one of the "inactive" people is Nikerabbit; he's among the most active developers there are.
[14:26:34] 	 *As a consultant* he may be inactive.
[14:26:45] 	 Nikerabbit: are you there?
[14:27:00] 	 Maybe we can get an opinion from the other side. :)
[14:27:06] 	 I really think "Responsive third-party users (ones that User:Mitevam has been able to get in touch with) are highlghted in lightcyan." is a perfectly reasonable description.
[14:27:39] 	 It's a reasonable description; I don't think it makes that much sense to indicate in the first place.
[14:27:51] 	 It's useful information for someone like me.
[14:28:10] 	 I think this page makes the most sense as a neutral place that the site provides for people to list themselves and their companies.
[14:28:33] 	 And after Mariya's internship the highlighting will go away.  Right now the highlighting is useful to have while she can update it.
[14:28:42] 	 yaron yeah it seemed like it could be useful information for someone else that I didn't want to just vanish with me 
[14:28:44] 	 It's really not that big a deal and she and I find it useful
[14:28:46] 	 03(mod) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943  +comment (10bjorsch)
[14:29:19] 	 Well, even if it was removed now, you could still go back in the history to see the info.
[14:29:29] 	 mitevam: if Yaron is so opposed to this highlighting then perhaps one of the things we can do is have a separate list that's easy to browse but linked somewhere.
[14:29:55] 	 mitevam: You could even link to a specific revision to say "look here for the highlighted version that Yaron hates!" ;-)
[14:30:23] 	 yaron do you have an idea of another way to preserve this information in case anyone is interested?
[14:30:43] 	 A link to this revision of the page, maybe?
[14:31:06] 	 yeah i guess that would work, I find it odd myself, so I would remove it but at the same time I didn't want to lose it in case its needed
[14:31:17] 	 would the revision link thing work after the Move? 
[14:31:20] 	 The problem with a lot of this stuff is that, even if it's accurate at the time, it can become inaccurate rather quickly.
[14:31:24] 	 mitevam: another way to do it: simply remove people who haven't responded to you.  They are basically showing by that that they are unresponsive and inactive
[14:31:37] 	 and not interested in MediaWiki development or what have you
[14:31:56] 	 and then send out an email and ask people to add themselves if they want to?
[14:32:10] 	 yeah, the revision thing would work even after the move
[14:32:41] 	 I actually find that a more reasonable solution.
[14:32:50] 	 03(mod) Add Support for Farsi Digits and Scripts in LaTeX Mathematical Formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30463  +comment (10huji.huji)
[14:32:58] 	 Not a great solution either, but at least there's less ambiguity about the whole thing.
[14:33:57] 	 As per usual, I'm more okay with some ambiguity regarding the membership of a set or the labeling of a characteristic than Yaron is -- not a surprise :-)
[14:34:42] 	 Well, I'm glad my lack of ambiguity is known!
[14:34:50] 	 hahaha 
[14:35:15] 	 It's not just ambiguity about that - I think it leads to ambiguity about the "officialness" of the list.
[14:35:17] 	 Set membership is fuzzy
[14:35:42] 	 when it comes to people, events, and other non-binary situations :)
[14:35:59] 	 03(mod) Display a licensing notification before save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44744  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[14:36:45] 	 mitevam: I trust you will figure something out regarding this :-)  Let's move on to any other questions or ideas you wanted to talk over with me
[14:37:01] 	 so should I really remove non-responsive entries? 
[14:37:07] 	 oh ok :) 
[14:38:28] 	 mitevam: I'll just say one final thing, which is that it would be good to send an email to all the people you're removing. But maybe you were going to do that anyway.
[14:38:41] 	 I was gonna ask, how is the Enterprise hub page supposed to get populated with information? It has almost nothing on it now, how does this usally work? 
[14:39:37] 	 yaron yes, I am also planning to email the mailing lists once I'm done with it and let them know the page exists
[14:40:17] 	 mitevam: let's look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Enterprise_hub and look at its page history to find out :-)
[14:40:46] 	 mitevam: it looks like User:Ofbeaton made this thing from scratch and some other people have made edits since then
[14:40:53] 	 oh right
[14:41:23] 	 03(mod) Add Support for Farsi Digits and Scripts in LaTeX Mathematical Formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30463  +comment (10fred.wang)
[14:42:20] 	 yeah it looks like he set up some high level structure
[14:42:36] 	 basically, mitevam it looks like Olivier hasn't edited this in a long time so you should go ahead
[14:43:02] 	 mitevam: how much longer do you think you would like to talk with me right now? I have to make some morning plans
[14:43:34] 	 also, tomorrow can we have our daily meeting at 7:30am my time/2:30pm your time?
[14:43:52] 	 sumanah not long , this is the main question i have
[14:44:04] 	 sumanah sure yes :)
[14:44:19] 	 OK :-)
[14:44:48] 	 03(mod) Mediawiki Timedtext allows for / - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32155  +comment (10M8R-udfkkf)
[14:44:56] 	 I've been coming in around 8am my time/3pm your time daily aiming to see you so that would be a reasonable time for most of our daily meetings but tomorrow a little earlier is better for me
[14:45:29] 	 mitevam: I think there is no particular tradition, custom, or gatekeeping for the Enterprise hub page, so you should feel free to make it over as you see fit
[14:45:35] 	 sumanah I am around at 2 and 3 and 4... so whatever works :) 
[14:46:07] 	 OK :)
[14:46:41] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "New actions, filters & UX" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46947
[14:47:09] 	 sumanah the thing is that I don't know enough to make a useful page, what I can do is poke people to contribute I guess
[14:48:29] 	 mitevam: I think you already have specific useful things to *add* - like linking to the list of consultants or mentioning any upcoming events
[14:49:37] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "New actions, filters & UX" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46947
[14:50:02] 	 sumanah yes I can definitely add some useful info, but pretty much EVERYTHING is missing on that page so I kind of want to see it more informative 
[14:50:04] 	 if you think of things to add, add them. If you don't, it's ok to leave it alone. You don't need to particularly tell other people to improve it -- just tell them that it exists as a resource for them
[14:50:15] 	 When you say everything is missing, what do you mean?
[14:50:42] 	 You mean there are a bunch of headers there that don't have any suggestions
[14:51:42] 	 yes, there is a bunch of headlines with not information under them 
[14:52:12] 	 and it says its still a draft 
[14:52:30] 	 if I was a new user I wouldn't look at it as a trustworthy resource
[14:53:47] 	 mitevam: ok. So, what would you like to do, given that after this week we'd like for you to start concentrating on the product management for data dumps?
[14:54:49] 	 You could just dump in a bunch of links to useful pages and remove the "draft" tag 
[14:55:25] 	 03(mod) Add Support for Farsi Digits and Scripts in LaTeX Mathematical Formulae - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30463  +comment (10vahid.ghasemian)
[14:56:20] 	 sumanah I can do that, also would it make sense to ask some people running corporate wikis to add resources they find useful there? 
[14:57:23] 	 mitevam: sure, but of course I figure you'll space out your communications with folks to make sure that you are not asking them for a bunch of things all at once :-)
[14:58:34] 	 right?
[14:59:11] 	 sumanah yes I will keeo that in mind 
[15:00:07] 	 ok! sounds like we're set unless you have any other questions or thoughts
[15:00:10] 	 for today
[15:01:13] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "New actions, filters & UX" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46947
[15:01:28] 	 no I'm good, going back to my "consultancy" issues :) 
[15:01:42] 	 nuff of this ... off to a few days of cross country skiing ... uiii ... l8r ppls
[15:05:28] 	 ok thanks mitevam 
[15:05:30] 	 bye!
[15:07:31] 	 JeroenDeDauw: I think I got most of what I wanted from the mailing list.  I am digging into smw these days, though, so I'm sure I'll have more questions
[15:12:10] 	 hexmode: sure
[15:12:50] 	 03(mod) Return key doesn't work with the "Add Reviewer" button in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44932  +comment (10Chad H.)
[15:12:57] 	 03(mod) Return key doesn't work with the "Add Reviewer" button in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44932   +upstream (10Chad H.)
[15:15:14] 	 Nemo_bis: replied
[15:15:57] 	 Nemo_bis: also, it would be good to find someone who wants to maintain Extension:APC
[15:22:50] 	 03(NEW) XCache return values are not handled correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44952 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[15:23:43] 	 03(mod) wikibase entityselector should find entities by their IDs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44823  (10abraham.taherivand)
[15:24:03] 	 03(mod) Translation notifications should always be delivered via Translation Notification Bot, including at Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44210  (10Tilman Bayer)
[15:26:27] 	 03(mod) Global (to a wiki farm or family) message delivery (thoughts) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35306  (10Tilman Bayer)
[15:30:16] 	 03(mod) Asia/Jakarta timezone abbreviation is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44758  +comment (10bknliem)
[15:30:51] 	 hexmode: replied as well https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Template_talk:Extension/Unmaintained_status
[15:33:03] 	 hexmode: maybe some of these sites has a knowledgeable dev? http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:Apc
[15:33:33] 	 Nemo_bis: thanks for helping me think through this :)
[15:34:09] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749
[15:37:12] 	 Change abandoned: Hashar; "Abandonning for now. Web browsers are not yet ready for HTML5 form validation.  The only way to prop..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23995
[15:37:30] 	 i got a problem in that my parserfunctions extension do not seem to have been upgraded when i upgraded my wikimedia installation
[15:37:30] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862
[15:37:55] 	 parserfunctions is a part of the base package nowadays, right?
[15:38:17] 	 I think it was included with the latest release, yes
[15:38:26] 	 thats weird then
[15:38:48] 	 you can still try to upgrade it the classical way
[15:39:01] 	 cause it lists my mediawiki version as 1.20.2, but the parserfunctions plying is only listed as 1.4.1
[15:39:10] 	 Is it me or are several people suddenly calling MediaWiki Wikimedia?
[15:39:48] 	 wims, the version numbers aren't synchronized
[15:39:49] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48744
[15:39:57] 	 Krenair: you?  people have always made the mistake
[15:40:13] 	 Platonides: yeah i figured that, but the parserfunctions article says that the latest version is 1.5.1
[15:40:23] 	 Maybe I've just noticed it more in the past few days
[15:40:26] 	 but that one is much more recent than the actual mediawiki release
[15:40:33] 	 just wait till I start the mediawiki foundation ;)
[15:40:33] 	 yes
[15:41:11] 	 hexmode: or the Med Wiki Foundation!
[15:41:36] 	 hehehe
[15:41:43] 	 I was thinking in that one
[15:41:58] 	 or...  wasn't it "Wiki Med Foundation"?
[15:42:04] 	 aka. WMF
[15:42:11] 	 groannn
[15:42:55] * hexmode  is confused... but assumes there is some secret handshake he doesn't know
[15:42:59] 	 Platonides: yes, but MWF is still lacking
[15:43:52] * apergos  waits for MFW
[15:44:14] 	 or even better, WFM 
[15:44:22] 	 +1
[15:44:36] 	 hexmode: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/63466/
[15:45:05] 	 Wiki Foundation Medical -- sounds like a medical drama for wiki geeks
[15:45:12] 	 sounds feasible: just rename Wiki Med Foundation to disambiguation format: Wiki Foundation (Med), shortened WFM
[15:45:37] 	 03(mod) Allow callbacks also to make more complex replacements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35457  +comment (10Junaid)
[15:46:51] 	 03(mod) wrong feedback links in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44914  (10Matthias Mullie)
[15:47:38] 	 every bug entry for code form the WMF will be closed as
[15:47:44] 	 ... worksforme :-P
[15:47:48] 	 er
[15:47:56] 	 the WFM I mean :-D
[15:49:47] 	 03(NEW) AutoLoader adds $IP to network share path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44953 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; ()
[15:50:32] 	 03(mod) AutoLoader adds $IP to network share path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44953  (10kevinrose)
[15:52:29] 	 03(NEW) zuul should have a template system to define projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44954 enhancement; Wikimedia: Testing Infrastructure; ()
[15:53:00] 	 03(mod) Implement claim difference visualization in DiffView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44095  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[15:53:46] 	 03(mod) Add all extensions used by WMF to Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34617  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:53:48] 	 03(mod) zuul should have a template system to define projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44954  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:53:50] 	 Nemo_bis: thanks for the link to the thread.  It is actually related to some work I'm doing today. :)
[15:54:00] 	 hahaha, sounds not promising :p
[15:54:02] 	 03(mod) zuul should have a template system to define projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44954  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:54:11] 	 03(mod) zuul should have a template system to define projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44954  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:54:52] 	 there are good suggestions for names to pick, though
[15:55:34] 	 Nemo_bis: I was only talking about wikis and medicine ... hopefully wiki med finds a new name
[15:56:08] 	 ugh, sure I had this problem a couple months ago but can't remember the fix...returning a string of a wikitable from an extension, but the page isn't converting the table markup
[15:56:16] 	 anyone know what's disabling that
[15:57:05] 	 Scooter_, does the table appear at the beginning of the line?
[15:57:10] 	 try prepending a \n
[15:57:17] 	 03(mod) wrong feedback links in log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44914  +comment (10Matthias Mullie)
[15:58:45] 	 Plat, yea, the string is formatted right, if I copy and paste it after the extension call that one turns into a table fine
[15:59:25] 	 I remember there being something that wasn't applying markup to extension results but I can't remember what
[15:59:32] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 43172) Tweak account creation interface messages for logged in users" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862
[16:05:46] 	 03(mod) Wikidata watchlist/RC items broken with enhanced recent changes enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44222  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:06:11] 	 03(mod) Wikidata watchlist/RC items broken with enhanced recent changes enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44222  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:06:14] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia, commons interwiki link and others are broken by custom JS on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41943  +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett)
[16:09:14] 	 03(mod) Display a licensing notification before save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44744  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:09:20] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Add composer.json" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48835
[16:09:23] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Tilman Bayer)
[16:09:32] 	 03(mod) EntitySelector should be configurable with an extra field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44743  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:09:58] 	 03(mod) Display a licensing notification before save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44744  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:10:08] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Add composer.json" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48836
[16:10:12] 	 03(mod) Display a licensing notification before save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44744  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:10:41] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "Add composer.json" [mediawiki/extensions/AntiSpoof] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48837
[16:10:51] 	 03(mod) paging for entity selection in statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44677  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:11:00] 	 03(mod) Commons search suggestions only runs script from the non-secure server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44666  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:12:05] 	 03(mod) Current version being displayed as old revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44661  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:12:25] 	 03(mod) claimview JS error on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44641  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:12:26] 	 03(mod) Special:EntityData should support "pretty" syntax for document names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44575  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:12:57] 	 03(mod) Special:EntityData should support old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44574  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:13:25] 	 03(mod) [statements-ui] counter for references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44538  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:13:27] 	 03(mod) Return key is broken when editing statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44290  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:14:19] 	 03(mod) Wikidata sitelink interface broken in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44228  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:14:44] 	 03(mod) Add a time datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44000  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:18:39] 	 03(mod) ChangeNotification failed to load deleted revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44911  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:19:20] 	 03(mod) Plural magic word exposed in the curation toolbar. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44832  +comment (10snaevar)
[16:20:25] 	 03(mod) Filter list is lost when scrolling down in IE9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36629  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[16:20:48] 	 03(mod) Adding a Statement: "also known as" shown in English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44713  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:23:37] 	 03(mod) Adding a Statement: "also known as" shown in English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44713  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:29:17] 	 New review: preilly; "Patch Set 2: Verified-1 Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector] (master); V: -1 C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42362
[16:32:04] 	 guillom, u there?
[16:32:49] 	 03(mod) Special:ItemByTitle does not work for all titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44799  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:33:05] 	 03(mod) Special:ItemByTitle does not work for all titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44799  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:33:15] 	 Kozuch, yes; give me 2 minutes and I'm available :)
[16:33:24] 	 03(mod) Show/hide wikidata link does not work with enhanced recent changes enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44225  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:33:40] 	 03(mod) Show/hide wikidata link does not work with enhanced recent changes enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44225  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:34:06] 	 03(mod) Create ApiSetClaim API module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44121  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:34:16] 	 03(mod) Create ApiSetClaim API module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44121  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:34:45] 	 03(mod) ChangeNotification failed to load deleted revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44911  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:36:31] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated multi_json Ruby gem" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48839
[16:38:26] 	 Kozuch, how can I help?
[16:39:41] 	 New patchset: Matthias Mullie; "New actions, filters & UX" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46947
[16:39:46] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48839
[16:39:47] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48839
[16:40:02] 	 guillom, well i might not need help, will do some of the communications... post messages about the rollout...
[16:41:30] 	 Kozuch, ok; let me know if you need anything, then :) We're in close timezones (I'm in France) so I'll be around for the next few hours if you need me.
[16:42:13] 	 guillom, ok :). should the message contain some particular info besides the date and some of the general info I wrote in my first message (available here: )
[16:42:29] 	 guillom, meant here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Lua
[16:42:38] 	 looking now
[16:43:42] 	 03(mod) wbsetclaimvalue - autocomment required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41166  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:44:15] 	 Kozuch, may I edit that page?
[16:44:23] 	 sure
[16:44:26] 	 thanks
[16:44:47] 	 please preserve the original message and possibly make new version
[16:45:24] 	 I'll just make minor edits; if I have bigger changes to recomment, I'll make a new version
[16:45:29] 	 recommend*
[16:45:55] 	 sumanah, u there?
[16:46:36] 	 Hi there Kozuch 
[16:46:49] 	 yaron: uga
[16:47:02] 	 hi sumanah, any info you want me to have in the rollout wiki messages?
[16:47:09] 	 03(mod) language terms table should be editable in JavaScript UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44755  (10abraham.taherivand)
[16:47:11] 	 uga to you too!
[16:47:44] 	 Nikerabbit: you're an ideal representative of the people who didn't respond to mitevam's email(s), and thus are considered not an active consultant.
[16:47:56] 	 yaron: hmmm?
[16:48:07] 	 Kozuch: I figure the most important items to have are: how the change will affect them, when it's happening (the window including start and end), what they should watch out for, what new opportunities this gives them, and where to give feedback
[16:48:07] 	 03(mod) Provide a plain linked data interface for accessing entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42063  +comment (10Anja Jentzsch)
[16:48:21] 	 which email?
[16:48:30] 	 Nikerabbit: there was a discussion here about it two hours ago; I thought that's why you were writing me, but maybe not. :)
[16:48:35] 	 i see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiLanguageManager as "stable" for 1.6.10+ but i get PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method DatabaseMysql::safeQuery() with REL1_20 ... am I missing something? it works for 1.16
[16:48:48] 	 yaron: yeah I saw it
[16:48:54] 	 It was one or more emails mitevam wrote to people, asking about getting in on a "corporate MediaWiki" discussion.
[16:48:56] 	 Yeah, okay.
[16:49:00] 	 I just recall any particular email directed at me
[16:49:09] 	 +don't
[16:49:09] 	 Ah.
[16:49:27] 	 sumanah, ok. things I want you to provide to me: start+end date, where to give feedback
[16:49:31] 	 Well, okay then.
[16:49:43] 	 I usually don't respond to very broad emails unless they really affect me
[16:50:04] 	 Kozuch, sumanah : I can help you with this information
[16:50:17] 	 ok. I'll leave myself out unless needed :-)
[16:50:28] 	 Kozuch, I've done the minor changes; I'll add the rest of the information below or on the talk page and you can integrate it as you like
[16:50:56] 	 fwiw: I'm semi-active as consultant, I do a handful of projects a year but don't actively look for them
[16:51:00] 	 guillom, ok
[16:51:19] 	 mitevam: are you there? If so, see above.
[16:51:25] 	 "very broad" as for topic or recipients? (probably related anyway)
[16:54:18] 	 Kozuch, ah, I hadn't realized that message is the one you posted 2 weeks ago. So, I'm guessing what you actually want is something different for the wikis where we'll actually be deploying the extension this week, right?
[16:54:58] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749
[16:55:22] 	 guillom, yes, actually. but should contain few same links probably. will you provide me with the missing info (end date + where to feedback)?
[16:55:37] 	 Kozuch, yes, will do now
[16:56:16] 	 guillom, I will post the new message to you for review
[16:56:27] 	 ok :)
[16:58:35] 	 03(mod) FlaggedRevs, patroller and autoreview changes for tr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44587  +comment (10krenair)
[16:59:28] 	 sumanah, do you know the name of the category tracking Lua-enabled templates?
[17:03:15] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749
[17:03:44] 	 ^demon, how are you supposed to link to another patch set in Gerrit now?
[17:04:08] 	 I was using short change-IDs... But it doesn't get linked now?
[17:12:03] 	 Kozuch, I added some information at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kozuch/Lua
[17:12:10] <^demon>	 Krenair: They should still link, I didn't change the regex for that.
[17:12:24] 	 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922  +comment (10massaf)
[17:13:05] 	 ^demon, Idfec62d is a valid one right? I put it in the search box and Gerrit recognises it and takes me to the change, but in my comment on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48749/ it's not linked
[17:13:41] 	 guillom, ok
[17:13:42] 	 guillom: I don't know, sorry
[17:13:45] 	 anomie: maybe you know the name of the category tracking Lua-enabled templates?
[17:13:56] 	 sumanah, sorry, chad just gave me the answer :)
[17:14:03] <^demon>	 Krenair: match = \\b([0-9a-f]{8,40})\\b
[17:14:06] 	 ok :)
[17:14:09] <^demon>	 Hasn't changed in ages.
[17:14:11] 	 There's no tracking category per se, we use the Module: namespace
[17:14:24] 	 sumanah- There isn't one. But you can use Special:WhatLinksHere to look for "transclusions" from the module namespace
[17:14:41] 	 guillom, I guess I will make rather simple wiki message and will aggregate more info on META
[17:14:50] <^demon>	 Krenair: Bah, that's not it. It's match = (I[0-9a-f]{8,40})
[17:14:51] <^demon>	 Sorry
[17:15:06] 	 Kozuch, sure, that sounds good. I just wanted you to have all the information :)
[17:15:10] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48563
[17:15:28] 	 guillom, yes thanks for it
[17:16:18] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48749
[17:16:27] 	 It seems gerrit-wm is less useful than before :/
[17:16:37] 	 ^demon, ah that was it. I was missing a letter
[17:17:20] <^demon>	 And yeah, the output changed. Need to improve the bot.
[17:18:06] 	 I've seen a bug about it missing... abandon notifications I think?
[17:18:15] 	 And it doesn't seem to have reported new patch set uploads
[17:18:25] 	 And now the comments just say the patch number
[17:22:09] 	 New review: Alex Monk; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48661
[17:24:24] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47086
[17:28:37] 	 DanielK_WMDE_: ping
[17:36:51] 	 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922  +comment (10swalling)
[17:48:21] 	 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922  +comment (10massaf)
[17:49:21] 	 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299  +comment (10zfilipin)
[17:49:40] 	 03(mod) Assert that ResourceLoader modules loaded successfully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44299  (10Željko Filipin)
[17:50:09] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[17:54:15] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "split out test results functionality" [wikimedia/fundraising/tools] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48844
[17:55:41] 	 New review: Zfilipin; "Patch Set 1:" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47027
[17:57:22] 	 03(NEW) Show new feedback in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44955 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; ()
[17:57:54] 	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Revert a3553c7a5d257421aa071680f2cd8b1a05b2686a" [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48845
[18:03:55] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Really return success value for run()" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48848
[18:06:13] 	 03(mod) Add a subtle box shadow to the content div in Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44854  (10Isarra)
[18:07:08] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Really return success value for run()" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48848
[18:07:14] 	 guillom, see the message at the bottom: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Kozuch
[18:07:35] 	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Fixed handling for form names that contain a slash in #formlink" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48850
[18:08:38] 	 03(mod) Update Javanese keymap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43809  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[18:10:20] 	 New review: Yaron Koren; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48850
[18:10:21] 	 Change merged: Yaron Koren; [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48850
[18:11:11] 	 andre__, I saw your comments on those pagetriage extension setup requests... is there a tracking bug for that extension somewhere?
[18:11:41] 	 Krenair, for four request? No.
[18:12:07] 	 but seeing the >100 tracking bugs I understand that the Wikimedia community seems to love tracking bugs. ;)
[18:12:26] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add missing return values to jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48852
[18:12:35] * MatmaRex  loves his tracking bugs!
[18:12:52] 	 hi MatmaRex
[18:13:31] 	 hi Nikerabbit
[18:13:44] 	 03(mod) Update Javanese keymap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43809  +comment (10bknliem)
[18:13:46] 	 MatmaRex: take an apple
[18:15:12] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "defaultrebase=0" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29717
[18:15:20] 	 Nikerabbit: an apple?
[18:15:22] 	 New review: Adamw; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29717
[18:15:23] 	 Change merged: Adamw; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/29717
[18:15:40] 	 we have a wiki installed on a WIMP stack... we're using the LDAP extensions for authentication, one of the two LDAP groups with access to the wiki is not allowed to upload files to the wiki
[18:15:46] 	 and we can't figure out why
[18:15:47] * Nemo_bis  is eating an apple too right now
[18:16:22] 	 we've actually tried reinstalling the wiki, we've checked permissions in the LDAP file, in the folders, and in IIS
[18:16:22] * MatmaRex  is eating pierogi
[18:16:39] 	 any suggestions on what to check next?
[18:16:45] 	 MatmaRex: yes it is a round fruind
[18:16:51] 	 Courtney_: Permissions in LocalSettings.php?
[18:17:28] 	 as in the permissions to access the file, or the ones specified there?
[18:17:37] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Siebrand)
[18:17:46] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48848
[18:17:49] 	 we've checked both I think
[18:17:52] 	 Courtney_: The permissions specified in LS.php that tell the wiki who's allowed to upload
[18:18:20] 	 03(NEW) Special:ItemByTitle should not use the title object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44956 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:18:38] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/TranslationNotifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48848
[18:19:14] 	 Courtney_: If you could post a redacted version of the LocalSettings file it might be useful, we may be able to diagnose the issue
[18:19:35] 	 Courtney_: Else, I can suggest making sure that the users you intend to allow to upload have the edit and upload rights
[18:19:46] 	 Nikerabbit: ... i don't get it? :(
[18:20:01] 	 MatmaRex: I think he means "fruit"
[18:20:08] 	 (not that that will help)
[18:20:24] 	 well we're using an LDAP extension for user rights
[18:20:44] 	 no, you're using it for groups ;)
[18:20:56] 	 rights are still handled through mediawiki
[18:21:26] 	 you assign rights to groups and the ldap extension will synch groups
[18:21:27] 	 andre__: I think it's the effect of MediaWiki's encouragement of categorisation
[18:21:41] 	 MatmaRex: yes frui
[18:21:46] 	 New patchset: Nikerabbit; "Add missing return values to jobs" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48852
[18:22:54] 	 Kozuch, sorry for the delay, I'm having dinner; your message looks good to me :)
[18:23:01] 	 Nemo_bis, hmm, good theory, yeah. But really, I'm surprised how many tracker bugs the Bugzilla has
[18:23:15] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Updated TranslationNotifications to master" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48853
[18:23:37] 	 guillom, ok. most wikis messaged, struggling with strange language versinons of wiktionaries (the biggest only) :)
[18:23:54] 	 andre__: do others even use them at all? :)
[18:24:03] 	 Nemo_bis, yes, sure
[18:24:22] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48853
[18:24:43] 	 i realize what an apple is, i just don;t see its relevance :P
[18:25:06] 	 Nemo_bis, but Bugzilla has three ways to "group" stuff outside of the product/component scheme: tracker bugs, keywords, and flags. so depends a bit on who organizes the Bugzilla, or how things grew in the past
[18:25:15] 	 03(NEW) When selecting entity by ID without a label makes entity selector weird - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44957 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:25:24] 	 03(mod) wbeditentity ignores baserevid (causes the same alias added multiple times) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44768  +comment (10bugreporter)
[18:25:27] 	 MatmaRex: relevant response to unrelevant response gets another unrelevant response :p
[18:26:05] 	 andre__: I think the main difference is between users who organise stuff only if forced and wikimedians who do it for fun
[18:26:13] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48853
[18:26:14] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove unnecessary type-coercion from account creation event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[18:26:56] 	 03(NEW) Handling deleting items on repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44958 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:26:56] 	 03(mod) Bugzilla bugmail via userwatching globalwatchers not working reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44929  +comment (10aklapper)
[18:27:14] 	 maybe we should encourage the usage of the whiteboard as folksonomy-like tagging
[18:27:48] 	 but after all that wouldn't bring any improvement I guess ^^'
[18:28:47] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48071
[18:29:01] 	 why do people who make good use of their wiki not keep it up to date?
[18:29:17] 	 I'm looking at you, wikipathways.org --- 1.13 is so long ago
[18:31:59] 	 Change merged: CSteipp; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48071
[18:34:13] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[18:38:22] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove unnecessary type-coercion from account creation event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[18:39:17] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Update code formatting" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48856
[18:39:19] 	 New review: Cmcmahon; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [qa/browsertests] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48845
[18:39:20] 	 Change merged: Cmcmahon; [qa/browsertests] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48845
[18:40:25] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove unnecessary type-coercion from account creation event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[18:40:35] 	 03(mod) Revise whitelist for Wikipedia Zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43797  (10Dan Foy)
[18:42:17] 	 03(mod) Disable India non-partner IP warning banner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43796  (10Dan Foy)
[18:42:53] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (pull_request_ie_user_agent) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47195
[18:45:11] 	 03(mod) Close box on Wikipedia Zero banner is too large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43803  (10Dan Foy)
[18:45:58] 	 03(mod) Switching to a non-whitelisted language shows wrong error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44436  (10Dan Foy)
[18:46:19] 	 03(mod) Separate cookies by tour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44924  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[18:47:58] 	 03(NEW) Open translatewiki tickets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44959 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[18:48:17] 	 03(mod) Open translatewiki tickets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44959  (10Jon)
[18:48:50] 	 Change abandoned: Matmarex; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/38506
[18:49:16] 	 New review: Bsitu; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48773
[18:49:46] 	 03(mod) newmessageslinkplural and newmessagesdifflinkplural shouldn't use fake values for the number of changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42497  -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:50:31] 	 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922  +comment (10swalling)
[18:51:01] 	 New patchset: Siebrand; "Start yelling if a job's run() does not return bool" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48858
[18:52:34] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48852
[18:54:30] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Translate] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48852
[18:56:00] 	 New patchset: CSteipp; "Lock multiple CentralAuth accounts at once" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40332
[18:56:19] 	 i got an issue with my installation, my installation only got one user, the admin, however, this particular user is no longer active on our service and we don't got his login details, are there any way for me to add a new admin user without manually changing the database?
[18:57:03] 	 if i need to change the database, do you got some sort of documentation that explains which encryption is used for passwords, which fields needs to be filled out etc, or do I have to look this up in the source?'
[18:57:08] 	 New review: CSteipp; "Patch Set 6:" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/40332
[18:57:39] 	 wims, I think you're looking for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_table#user_password
[18:58:12] 	 cheers
[18:58:14] 	 New review: Bsitu; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48235
[18:59:43] 	 wims, you should bookmark https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[18:59:53] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Treat a null result of Job::run() like "true"." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48860
[19:00:25] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48858
[19:03:57] 	 03(mod) Long Article names on watch list view run right into the start - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44919  (10Jon)
[19:04:53] 	 03(mod) Long Article names on watch list view run right into the start - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44919  +comment (10jrobson)
[19:05:18] 	 andre__: hey, got a moment?
[19:05:48] 	 sumanah, sure, if ti's quick
[19:05:51] 	 it's
[19:06:16] 	 andre__: just wanted to check on whether there are any current Highest bugs that you're thinking of moving to Critical.
[19:06:20] 	 I mean Immediate.
[19:06:33] 	 New review: Demon; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48860
[19:07:01] 	 03(NEW) Job returns Status instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44960 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; ()
[19:07:26] 	 Change merged: Demon; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48858
[19:07:51] 	 sumanah, there's one Wikidata ticket marked as Immediate, and 42715 got reopened which was&is Highest prio but has a Gerrit patch already attached for this instance
[19:08:01] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10sumanah)
[19:08:05] 	 sumanah, so among the Highest prio ones I don't see any ticket that I'd bump up
[19:08:26] 	 csteipp: andre__: For 42715  "Duplicate translation notifications are generated" is anyone backporting it?
[19:08:41] * sumanah  asks csteipp because he's Rob's delegate for this stuff this week while robla is away
[19:08:47] 	 ah!
[19:09:46] 	 sumanah: backport to which version?
[19:09:47] 	 New review: Mwalker; "Patch Set 11: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23027
[19:09:48] 	 Change merged: Mwalker; [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23027
[19:10:00] 	 andre__: I'll take it from here. Thanks.
[19:10:16] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48781
[19:10:25] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48784
[19:10:30] 	 np
[19:10:34] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48781
[19:10:36] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48856
[19:10:38] 	 csteipp: I presume to the live site ... "Needs to be backported and deployed, too."  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42715#c26
[19:10:41] 	 sumanah: Aaron pushed it out today
[19:10:43] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48784
[19:10:58] 	 New patchset: Aude; "Update Wikibase" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48863
[19:11:13] 	 Reedy: ^
[19:11:15] 	 Cool, it's deployed. We probably won't backport since the last wikis go to wmf9 today
[19:11:26] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[19:11:26] 	 csteipp: OK. Shall we close the ticket then?
[19:11:33] 	 sumanah: Yep
[19:12:08] 	 Nikerabbit's comment also implies we can close. OK, gonna close now.
[19:12:32] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[19:12:38] 	 Thanks all
[19:13:10] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48860
[19:14:37] 	 03(NEW) [Regression] gerrit-wm shows "Patch set #:" instead of the real first line of the comment. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44961 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[19:14:57] 	 03(NEW) ChangeNotificationJob returns null instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44962 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[19:15:23] 	 03(mod) Job returns Status instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44960  +comment (10Siebrand)
[19:15:42] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Start yelling if a job's run() does not return bool" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48864
[19:15:42] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Treat a null result of Job::run() like "true"." [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48865
[19:16:04] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48864
[19:17:41] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48864
[19:18:30] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48865
[19:19:57] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47189
[19:20:04] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[19:20:12] 	 03(mod) Return key doesn't work with the "Add Reviewer" button in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44932  +comment (10b)
[19:20:14] 	 Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48865
[19:21:09] 	 03(NEW) WebVideoTranscodeJob can return Status instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44963 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[19:22:57] 	 hey there anomie :-)  would you like to talk today (or maybe later this week, or early next week) about Scribunto/TemplateSandbox stuff for OSB?
[19:23:16] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47189
[19:23:35] 	 sumanah- Probably early next week. I need to finish making sure the documentation for Scribunto is up-to-date.
[19:23:56] 	 OK! let's talk then.
[19:25:10] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48600
[19:25:57] 	 03(mod) redirecting domain tartupeedia.ee to Wikipedia page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44893  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[19:26:25] 	 03(mod) redirecting domain tartupeedia.ee to Wikipedia page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44893  +comment (10krenair)
[19:26:34] 	 03(mod) Redirect command within a gallery gives a server error if try to load page in VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44927  +comment (10jforrester)
[19:28:29] 	 03(mod) [Regression] gerrit-wm shows "Patch set #:" instead of the real first line of the comment. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44961  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:28:40] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 29:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/17952
[19:29:53] 	 03(NEW) Client should ignore changes to deleted entities. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44964 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[19:30:18] 	 03(NEW) Mobile-frontend-save-settings button lowercased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44965 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[19:32:08] 	 03(NEW) EntityViewActionTest should test viewing old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44966 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[19:32:15] 	 New patchset: Katie Horn; "Adding .gitreview and .gitignore to master" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48870
[19:32:54] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47371
[19:33:22] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "(FR #615) Skrill/Moneybookers integration" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[19:33:32] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48227
[19:33:52] 	 ^demon: Does a Git/Gerrit Bug Day next week still sound good? 71 bugs: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=179753&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&component=Git%2FGerrit&product=Wikimedia
[19:34:21] 	 03(mod) [Regression] gerrit-wm shows "Patch set #:" instead of the real first line of the comment. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44961  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:34:31] * sumanah  listens
[19:34:41] 	 ^demon left.
[19:34:48] 	 New patchset: Aude; "update Wikibase" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48863
[19:36:23] 	 New review: Adamw; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48870
[19:36:24] 	 Change merged: Adamw; [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48870
[19:36:47] 	 03(mod) [Regression] gerrit-wm shows "Patch set #:" instead of the real first line of the comment. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44961  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[19:36:51] 	 03(mod) Add an OAI-PMH API for index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38498  +comment (10Tpt)
[19:37:35] 	 Krinkle: Oh, do you know when he'll be back?
[19:38:05] 	 New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 8:" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[19:38:12] 	 03(NEW) Clean up Claims::getDiff() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44967 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[19:38:36] 	 valeriej: I don't know. He might be out for lunch, or for the rest of the day. Not sure what his timezone is.
[19:39:02] 	 Krinkle: Thanks. I'll keep an eye out.
[19:39:57] 	 New patchset: Umherirrender; "cleanup action=tokens" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48871
[19:41:22] 	 03(NEW) SpecialItemByTitle must not use Title object to represent remote title. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44968 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[19:41:43] 	 03(mod) Clean up Claims::getDiff() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44967  normal->15enhancement (10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:41:52] 	 03(mod) EntityViewActionTest should test viewing old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44966  normal->minor (10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:42:02] 	 03(mod) Client should ignore changes to deleted entities. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44964  normal->minor (10Daniel Kinzler)
[19:42:36] 	 Hi all.
[19:42:59] 	 03(NEW) Parsoid crashes when serializing page with colon in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44969 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; ()
[19:43:00] 	 03(mod) Parsoid crashes when serializing page with colon in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44969  normal->04CRIT (10Roan Kattouw)
[19:43:00] 	 How do I make an image be smaller and floaty? I want to make the logos here smaller - http://buffyfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Buffy_Fanfiction_Wiki
[19:44:47] 	 03(mod) "Notify translators" page should force preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39075  +comment (10Tilman Bayer)
[19:45:27] 	 New review: Reedy; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48863
[19:45:56] 	 03(mod) [Regression] gerrit-wm shows "Patch set #:" instead of the real first line of the comment. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44961  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:46:05] 	 rindolf: sorry I don't have help for you right now - have you already searched mediawiki.org?
[19:46:19] 	 sumanah: no, not yet. I can STFW.
[19:46:35] 	 :-)
[19:46:56] 	 New review: Mwalker; "Patch Set 8: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[19:46:58] 	 Heh, STFW. I like that.
[19:47:14] 	 !image
[19:47:14] 	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: imageauth, imagelink, imagemagic, imagemap, images, 
[19:47:18] 	 !imagelink
[19:47:18] 	 In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see  for methods and information.
[19:47:20] 	 !images
[19:47:21] 	 For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see  and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads).
[19:47:24] 	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf9) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48863
[19:47:44] 	 rindolf: Let's look.
[19:48:04] 	 rindolf: [[File:20100317234736!Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_title_card.jpg]]
[19:48:09] 	 So you might change that to...
[19:48:15] 	 [[File:20100317234736!Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_title_card.jpg|40px]]
[19:48:18] * sumanah  goes away for a bit.  good luck rindolf 
[19:50:32] 	 03(mod) Parsoid crashes when serializing page with colon in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44969  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[19:51:11] 	 New review: Umherirrender; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47189
[19:51:17] 	 New patchset: Bsitu; "Update comment and db selection" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48873
[19:52:21] 	 03(mod) Leverage browser cache for JS and CSS (separate requests for common and page-specific things) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44017  +comment (10jrobson)
[19:55:25] 	 03(mod) Redirect command within a gallery gives a server error if try to load page in VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44927  +comment (10phil)
[19:59:01] 	 03(mod) "Notify translators" page should force preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39075  (10Nemo)
[19:59:44] 	 03(mod) Secure mobile site contains a canonical link to insecure desktop site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43771  +comment (10Jon)
[20:00:46] 	 03(NEW) Parsoid: Editing a page that starts with a comment causes Parsoid to crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44970 critical; Parsoid: JS/General; ()
[20:01:57] 	 New patchset: Tpt; "(bug 40759) Add namespaces for fi" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48875
[20:02:12] 	 03(mod) Crash in http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/en/Wikt:Lede - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44807  +comment (10Mark Holmquist)
[20:03:34] 	 03(NEW) Parsoid normalizes categories to have an empty sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44971 normal; Parsoid: JS/serializer; ()
[20:04:49] 	 03(mod) Duplicate translation notifications are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42715  +comment (10Siebrand)
[20:04:51] 	 03(mod) Job returns Status instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44960  (10Siebrand)
[20:04:53] 	 New patchset: Merlijn van Deen; "E-mail based test" [test/mediawiki/extensions/examples] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48876
[20:04:53] 	 03(mod) ChangeNotificationJob returns null instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44962  (10Siebrand)
[20:04:53] 	 03(mod) WebVideoTranscodeJob can return Status instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44963  (10Siebrand)
[20:09:10] 	 New patchset: Mwalker; "(FR #615) Skrill/Moneybookers integration" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[20:10:59] 	 03(NEW) Links to translatable pages are broken on Special:Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44972 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[20:12:20] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48875
[20:13:55] 	 03(mod) ProofreadPage namespaces for Finnish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40759  +comment (10thomaspt)
[20:14:19] 	 petan: Love you too
[20:15:09] 	 03(mod) The way to deal with FS limitations should be documented in the specs. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43963  +comment (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart])
[20:16:05] 	 03(mod) Sign up form should not autopopulate username field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44775  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[20:17:54] 	 New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2" [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48875
[20:17:55] 	 Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/ProofreadPage] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48875
[20:18:50] 	 03(mod) Parsoid normalizes categories to have an empty sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44971  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:20:19] 	 hashar: Bonsoir. Pourrais-tu ajouter Proofread Page à la liste des extensions pour lesquels sont faites les "builds" de tests par Jenkins, s'il-te-plait ?
[20:26:22] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[20:29:24] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Patch Set 3:" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48039
[20:32:41] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 44900) Allow wildcard searching in wiki IDs for interwiki user rights logs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48661
[20:34:15] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 26204) font-size is too small" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[20:35:24] 	 03(mod) font-size of  output too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26204  -patch -patch-reviewed +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[20:37:56] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[20:42:44] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 44900) Allow wildcard searching in wiki IDs for interwiki user rights logs" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48661
[20:45:03] 	 Hello
[20:45:27] 	 03(mod) RL debug mode CSS docs incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44374  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:45:45] 	 may you help me please?
[20:46:08] 	 David0811_T_T: just ask your question
[20:47:07] 	 welcome David0811_T_T :-)
[20:47:24] 	 Is it possible to add seconds to the history timestamp?
[20:47:29] 	 Would it be costly?
[20:47:39] 	 Can you do that just on a single project?
[20:48:07] 	 thank you sumanah :)
[20:48:39] 	 David0811_T_T: Hi! when you say "project" do you mean a specific wiki, or specific pages within a particular wiki?
[20:49:00] 	 a specific wiki sumanah 
[20:49:02] 	 :)
[20:49:14] 	 We record seconds at least
[20:49:20] 	 David0811_T_T: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Timestamp and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:WfTimestamp which I am looking at
[20:49:24] 	 I don't think there's any opton for displaying it
[20:50:09] 	 http://es.wikipedia.org
[20:50:40] 	 there's consensus in here http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/Propuestas/Actual#Segundos
[20:52:43] 	 It will need core changes to be able to do it, I think
[20:52:47] 	 David0811_T_T: i'm looking into how it's done
[20:52:50] 	 David0811_T_T: As far as I know there is no way to tell MediaWiki to include seconds in its display of the timestamp. I presume there is a way someone could improve the code to make it possible.  If you file a Bugzilla issue requesting this enhancement then I could spread the word to some volunteers
[20:53:27] 	 there is a PageHistoryLineEnding hook
[20:53:54] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43112
[20:54:01] 	 chrismcmahon: hope you don't mind, I made a new user testing category on mediawiki.org under the main testing cat.
[20:54:17] 	 though it seems most of that stuff is about automated testing
[20:56:24] 	 03(mod) Updating logo for Telugu Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44796  +comment (10Rahmanuddin Shaik)
[20:58:23] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43112
[20:59:19] 	 David0811_T_T: the history action simply uses the user's timestamp format, you can set it in your preferences
[20:59:58] 	 David0811_T_T: so this could be hard to change, unless you want to change the time/date format everywhere for everyone
[21:02:20] 	 03(mod) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943  +comment (10tylerromeo)
[21:02:30] 	 MatmaRex: there's no date format preference (at least not in es.wikipedia)
[21:02:47] 	 03(mod) ChangeNotificationJob returns null instead of bool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44962  +comment (10Daniel Kinzler)
[21:02:59] 	 03(NEW) Watchlist toggle does include wikidata by default, when show wikidata pref enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44973 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[21:03:03] 	 Vulpix: oh wow, you're right
[21:03:12] 	 Vulpix: that's funny, it is there on pl.wiki at least
[21:03:29] 	 03(NEW) Add localised logos for Wikipedias without one (first installment) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44974 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[21:03:35] 	 Vulpix: well, in this case this might be actually easier to do, this could be a matter of a config change
[21:04:05] 	 Vulpix: this is done by userTimeAndDate() in /languages/Language.php
[21:05:31] 	 Vulpix: called by revLink() in /includes/actions/HistoryAction.php
[21:06:50] 	 Has something like this ever been donde MatmaRex? (a global change)
[21:07:15] 	 David0811_T_T: i have no idea, never heard of anything like this
[21:07:22] 	 MatmaRex: interesting, that timestamp format appears when language is set in polish, but NOT in spanish!
[21:07:27] 	 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Preferencje?uselang=es#mw-prefsection-datetime
[21:10:34] 	 Vulpix: huh. that's weird.
[21:10:55] 	 indeed!
[21:11:11] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.title library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47913
[21:12:28] 	 Vulpix: it seems like date format are defined per-language, and spanish probably has none
[21:13:59] 	 Vulpix: okay, i'm not sure why this happens, but changing the default seems to be a one-line config change
[21:14:23] 	 okay, maybe not
[21:14:35] 	 it seems you'd have to define a new date format somehow
[21:14:42] 	 !wg DefaultUserOptions
[21:14:42] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions
[21:14:57] 	 on line config, and thousands of lines of complaints :P
[21:17:28] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "Scribunto language library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42050
[21:17:31] 	 Vulpix: ah, i found why it's not enabled for spanish
[21:17:45] 	 Vulpix: $datePreferences = false; in /languages/messages/MessagesEs.php
[21:18:51] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "test: recurring globalcollect" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48938
[21:19:16] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Date_formatting
[21:20:00] 	 !svn
[21:20:00] 	 Subversion is a version control software that allows users to download the very latest version of a branch without having to wait for someone to get around to packaging it. Advantages to using Subversion include the latest version, vastly simplified updating, the ability to roll back an upgrade, the ability to create and submit patches. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion for more information.
[21:20:05] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "Add mw.message library" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48482
[21:20:29] 	 Vulpix: ah, this would need another change to MessagesEs
[21:20:33] 	 New patchset: Anomie; "Test for leaked global variables" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48939
[21:20:47] 	 Vulpix: you'd have to adjust $dateFormats
[21:21:16] 	 Vulpix: these are lines 352-358 in MessagesEs.php
[21:21:26] 	 Hey, does anyone here use nginx's built-in caching system instead of Varnish with MW?
[21:21:42] 	 (well, the first question should probably be "does anyone here use nginx with MW?" haha)
[21:22:01] 	 uh, my browser will die if I attempt to blame MessagesEs.php
[21:22:35] 	 haha
[21:22:43] 	 03(NEW) Deployment of global AbuseFilter rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44975 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[21:22:58] 	 argh, something got borked and my Windows is badly swapping :(
[21:23:00] 	 Well, any swapping is bad swapping. :(
[21:23:26] 	 Vulpix: so you'd need something like: $datePreferences = array('dmy seconds', 'dmy'); $defaultDateFormat = 'dmy seconds';
[21:23:59] 	 Vulpix: and then add keys 'dmy seconds time', 'dmy seconds date', 'dmy seconds both' to $dateFormats with appropriate values
[21:24:01] 	 03(mod) Deployment of global AbuseFilter rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44975  (10Raimond Spekking)
[21:24:30] 	 Vulpix: although i dunno if it should be default for all things spanish, probably not
[21:24:55] 	 Vulpix: so that default pref variable would come in handy, too
[21:25:16] 	 it was false since the beginning :( http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEs.php?r1=15822&r2=15823&
[21:25:17] 	 K__: it's rising from 1.8G to about 2.3G, then falling down to 1.8, and again
[21:25:18] 	 :(
[21:25:44] 	 Vulpix: so this is certainly possible and not that bad
[21:25:46] * K__  starts up the broken record
[21:25:48] 	 New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Upload] Moved sync upload stuff to the job queue." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940
[21:26:04] 	 brb
[21:26:28] 	 I'm not going to create a PS for that. A bug should be created first anywat
[21:26:30] 	 *anyway
[21:26:31] 	 New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48781
[21:26:38] 	 Single-server setup running nginx + php-fpm, MW set to use APC. Would setting up Varnish or using nginx's built-in caching mechanism have any noticeable effect?
[21:27:32] 	 K__: it should be noticeable for not-logged-in pageviews
[21:27:44] 	 Yeah, that's the intended effect.
[21:28:10] 	 Unfortunately, that means disabling pageview counters, which breaks a special page that some of our users like to look at.
[21:28:27] 	 Unless there's a way to do partial caching easily.
[21:29:55] 	 03(mod) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936  +comment (10brion)
[21:30:14] 	 03(mod) Deployment of global AbuseFilter rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44975  +comment (10csteipp)
[21:30:16] 	 I don't know if something like this exists, but it should be easy to do the same as the page counter does but by loading a image or something that triggers the script to increment the counter
[21:31:14] 	 In fact, the page counter should be implemented like this
[21:31:30] 	 hey all, I have a question about deleteOldRevisions.php
[21:31:35] 	 can't Varnish itself count the hits?
[21:31:38] 	 on the Wiki page, it suddenly mentions rebuildall.php: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DeleteOldRevisions.php
[21:31:44] 	 but it doesn't explain why I would run rebuildall.php, only that it "can take long"
[21:31:49] 	 and then this info could certainly be somehow fed back to MediaWiki
[21:32:24] 	 Possibly. I don't believe the Varnish/Squid documentation on mw.org mentions a fix for that
[21:32:39] 	 New review: Adamw; "Patch Set 9: -Code-Review" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23160
[21:33:46] 	 StevenW: was afk for a few minutes, I think explanation of 'user testing' on mw.o is useful, it's a separate discipline not always well understood
[21:34:12] 	 norbert_: i'm not sure why it mentions that
[21:34:39] 	 I just wonder if it's worth it to set up Varnish (and then fiddle with the log reporting mechanisms and whatnot), or just go with nginx's caching methods instead.
[21:34:47] 	 norbert_: among other things, that rebuildall script rebuilts the recent changes data, which would certainly make sense if you kill old revisions
[21:35:00] 	 norbert_: but this can also be done woth rebuildrecentchanges.php
[21:35:27] 	 norbert_: it also rebuilts the search index and link tables, which makes no sense, since both of these only apply to latest revisions anyway as far as i know
[21:35:56] * K__  throws static content caching on the list of "things to tweak with MW setup later"
[21:36:22] 	 Alongside things like "purge file namespace caches whenever an image is uploaded to our commons equivalent"
[21:36:53] 	 Dereckson: i'm having trouble figuring out where to escape the characters. when i do a ` die( print_r( $lineBlock ) ); ` to see what's in my array, it doesn't seem to include the 	 Because for now, the horribly ugly workaround is to ?action=purge every involved page after upload.
[21:37:08] 	 Which is frown-inducing.
[21:37:52] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[21:37:59] 	 New patchset: Hashar; "(bug 26204) font-size is too small" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[21:38:18] 	 New review: Hashar; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[21:38:34] 	 03(mod) Mobile-frontend-save-settings button lowercased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44965  +comment (10Jon)
[21:41:34] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[21:42:01] 	 New review: Matmarex; "Patch Set 2: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48882
[21:42:14] 	 MatmaRex: you could test out the Syntaxhighlight patch in various browsers :-]
[21:42:21] 	 MatmaRex: making sure that actually fix up the issue hehe
[21:42:33] 	 hashar: i could if i had more free time :) sorry :(
[21:42:46] 	 ok ok :-]
[21:42:53] 	 MatmaRex: thanks for the review nonetheless!
[21:42:58] 	 I am out to bed
[21:42:59] * hashar  waves
[21:44:24] 	 MatmaRex: ok; maybe I should e-mail to the mediawiki team to ask why it mentions rebuildall.php (and if it's because something needs to be rebuild, why rebuildrecentchanges.php isn't used) ?
[21:45:33] 	 norbert_: i am not an expert at all
[21:46:09] 	 you could complain about it on-wiki, mail the wikitech-l list, or file a bug - lots of choices :)
[21:46:11] 	 Vulpix: what is a PS?
[21:46:12] 	 !lists
[21:46:12] 	 mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[21:47:01] 	 David0811_T_T: A patchset, a patch to gerrit, a change to the code submitted so others can review so it can be eventually merged into the code
[21:49:39] 	 hi there. I had this idea and I just wanted to check if it was feasible. I want to write some javascript that adds a link next to the talk|contribs|block links on revision diffs that blocks the user and deletes recent pages they have created
[21:49:56] 	 Does something like this already exist? And if not, is it feasible to do in javascript?
[21:50:03] 	 03(mod) Add localised/v2 logos for Wikipedias without one (first installment) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44974   +patch-in-gerrit; summary; +comment (10Nemo)
[21:50:13] 	 03(mod) Add localised/v2 logos for Wikipedias without one (first installment) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44974  (10Nemo)
[21:50:38] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[DonationInterdace] Register PayPal gateway" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48953
[21:50:50] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2 Verified+2" [translatewiki] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48953
[21:50:51] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48953
[21:52:51] 	 Is Scribunto's container of template arguments no longer 'frame.args' (with 'frame' bound to the function's first parameter)?
[21:53:27] 	 I'm probably doing something stupid, but the 'args' property on frame is nill despite my attempt to pass in a parameter.
[21:53:36] 	 * nil
[21:56:05] 	 oh, never mind, i figured it out.
[21:58:12] 	 New review: Parent5446; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48116
[21:58:24] 	 New review: Parent5446; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940
[22:00:56] 	 New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 44804) Automatic flipping for LTR and RTL.  Also:" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48227
[22:01:39] 	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Changed from using 'ParserBeforeInternalParse' hook to 'ArticleEditUpdates' instead" [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48956
[22:01:44] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[DonationInterface] Followup I7487cb2f: Alias are neved translated" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48957
[22:02:01] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2 Verified+2" [translatewiki] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48957
[22:02:01] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48957
[22:02:02] 	 Hello.
[22:02:56] 	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 5:" [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48227
[22:04:52] 	 New review: Yaron Koren; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48956
[22:05:15] 	 terrrydactyl: htmlspecialchars()
[22:05:55] 	 terrrydactyl: this is a standard PHP function when you need to print characters in HTML
[22:06:13] 	 http://php.net/manual/en/function.htmlspecialchars.php documents the characters substitution made
[22:06:54] 	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 7: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:07:06] 	 Dereckson: ah okay. i'll play around with it to see where i should put it.
[22:07:48] 	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "[DonationInterface] Fixing error from I2d00062a" [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48958
[22:08:03] 	 New review: Raimond Spekking; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2 Verified+2" [translatewiki] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48958
[22:08:03] 	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [translatewiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48958
[22:09:34] 	 New patchset: Andrew Bogott; "Slightly improve error reporting for domain deletion" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47607
[22:10:12] 	 terrrydactyl: at the moment you tell the parser to print the file source code
[22:10:50] 	 Here for example: $output = '
' . $fileContents . '
';
[22:10:58] 	 New review: Parent5446; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940
[22:11:17] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Generate & show sample PHP / JavaScript in Schema NS" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561
[22:11:49] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove unnecessary type-coercion from account creation event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:12:03] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 8: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:12:12] 	 03(mod) Dynamic charts/graphs (JavaScript implementation) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39555  +comment (10garbage5)
[22:12:42] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Remove unnecessary type-coercion from account creation event" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:13:25] 	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 9: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:13:44] 	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:14:21] 	 Dereckson: it doesn't seem to work there. it prints out this: <?php. it sorta works when i put it in the return value from fuction FindAndReadFile, but if i have no startline or endline defined, it only spits out 	 ok Vulpix, thank you
[22:15:05] 	 New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Generate & show sample PHP / JavaScript in Schema NS" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561
[22:16:00] 	 terrrydactyl: http://mediawiki.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Sandbox:Git2Pages <-- that works with $output = '
' . htmlspecialchars($fileContents) . '
';
[22:16:09] 	 Dereckson: actually never mind, it does work there. i had an extra htmlspecialchars.
[22:16:44] 	 Dereckson: try not defining the end line. it's supposed to print out the entire contents, but for me, only prints out the first like
[22:16:46] 	 line*
[22:17:51] 	 03(mod) Add localised/v2 logos for Wikipedias without one (first installment) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44974  (10Tomasz W. Kozłowski)
[22:19:12] 	 i have two domain names pointing to my wiki, how do I configure $wgServer so it works with my configuration
[22:19:23] 	 I can't reproduce that bug.
[22:19:51] 	 Every combo of startline/endline seems to work.
[22:19:58] 	 wims: probably something involving  $_SERVER['HTTP_HOST']
[22:20:07] 	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 5: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561
[22:20:29] 	 Feel free to edit http://mediawiki.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Sandbox:Git2Pages and copy your breaking parser function call.
[22:21:34] 	 it says i'm don't have permission to edit the page?
[22:21:52] 	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 6: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) C: -2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48561
[22:23:29] * Dereckson  is puzzled - http://mediawiki.dereckson.be/index.php?title=Special:ListGroupRights -> anonymous can create a page, not edit one
[22:24:38] 	 It's something I will check on the installer.
[22:24:41] 	 Dereckson: is that what's standard in mediawiki?
[22:25:17] 	 New review: Spage; "Patch Set 9:" [mediawiki/extensions/EventLogging] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48562
[22:25:27] 	 No, it's what you get when at installer time you ask "require registration to edit pages"
[22:26:23] 	 Please create an account, I don't want to enable anonymous edit on this site.
[22:26:36] 	 sure
[22:29:30] 	 Dereckson: oh!! i see my mistake. i set $endLine wrong when i tried to change it to the ternary operator.
[22:30:30] 	 k
[22:30:31] 	 i was wondering why i couldn't recreate it in your box so i looked at the other code changes that i made.
[22:31:41] 	 oh, i wanted to ask you. i'm using is_numeric to check if startline and end line are integers, but it also says that 2.4 is a number. but is_int will return false since the numbers are strings. is there a better way to do this?
[22:33:14] 	 http://php.net/manual/en/function.is-int.php offers some solutions in the comments
[22:33:26] 	 New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940
[22:33:40] 	 New patchset: Yaron Koren; "Removed use of now-deprecated Article::fetchContent()" [mediawiki/extensions/ApprovedRevs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48962
[22:34:52] 	 New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 4: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45239
[22:41:59] 	 03(mod) geoiplookup returns empty for IPv6 users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40572  +comment (10Peter Gehres)
[22:43:21] 	 New patchset: Parent5446; "(bug 44943) Cleanup of API:Account creation documentation." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48966
[22:43:35] 	 03(mod) Account creation MediaWiki API module (action=createaccount) help needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44943   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[22:44:32] 	 is Susan here
[22:44:41] 	 It would seem so
[22:44:55] 	 Susan is always here tbh, never sleeps >.>
[22:45:14] 	 @seen Susan
[22:45:14] 	 MatmaRex: Susan is in here, right now
[22:45:19] 	 i am looking for someone adept at custom wiki skins
[22:45:20] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking at the left of a wikicode block does not put the cursor there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41199  +comment (10Inez Korczyński)
[22:45:30] 	 specifically discrepancies between browsers
[22:45:42] 	 c: Dantman might be helpful as well
[22:46:02] 	 c: anything in particular? i worked with skins a little
[22:46:11] 	 terrrydactyl: I understand you're working on the Git2Pages extension?
[22:46:24] 	 mwalker: yes
[22:46:40] 	 MatmaRex: in chrome the personal toolbar (userpage talk etc) isn't appearing on chrome but is on firefox and IE 
[22:46:50] 	 http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Main_Page
[22:46:55] 	 (when logged in)
[22:47:20] 	 terrrydactyl: cool -- is there anything I should know about it before I try it out?
[22:47:40] 	 (I'm going to try to integrate it with CentralNotice if you're wondering where this is going)
[22:47:45] 	 mwalker: it doesn't work 100% quite yet! haha
[22:48:14] 	 c: sorry, i got to go right now :/
[22:48:23] 	 ok
[22:50:33] 	 terrrydactyl: meh! ok -- well -- presuming that you will eventually get this working -- it's effectively just a parser extension? will you be wrapping it in any mediawiki stuff -- or is it just plain text output wrapped in a 
 tag? --> my use case requires that I get the raw output so that I can actually execute JS I pull from a git repo
[22:52:53] 	 03(mod) Review LaTeXML branch of Extension:Math for deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43222  +comment (10mflaschen)
[22:53:16] 	 terrrydactyl: Maybe you could expose some of the functions and classes so mwalker can pull the information that way and do his own stuff with it?
[22:53:24] 	 mwalker: for now it spits out raw output wrapped in 
 tags. it's just a parser extension. i haven't thought past that, haha.
[22:54:09] 	 marktraceur, mwalker as part of the extension, i've also created a GitRepository class so that can be used to clone and spit out things also.
[22:55:57] 	 And currently it's a method in GitRepository which returns the file content, so yes it's usable.
[22:56:40] 	 terrrydactyl, Dereckson; do you have a timeline on when it'll be stable enough for a cluster deploy?
[22:57:10] 	 Oh, there would need to be some pretty severe security review....
[22:57:15] 	 New patchset: Darkdadaah; "Added small introduction to README_fr" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48967
[22:58:00] 	 New review: Darkdadaah; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48967
[22:58:01] 	 Change merged: Darkdadaah; [wiktionary/anagrimes] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48967
[22:59:31] 	 Hoy again.
[22:59:39] 	 I'm doing yet another wacky thing to Zelda Wiki
[22:59:44] 	 mwalker: hurm -- ok -- so it'll be a while; I'll have to keep an eye on this though -- it'll solve a couple of annoying problems CentralNotice has
[23:00:02] 	 And would like to know if anyone would know where to begin in adding a network bar to a wiki
[23:00:14] 	 (Like a bar at the top linking to the different sites involved)
[23:00:29] 	 I tried just editing the vector.php file
[23:00:35] 	 But it made the tabs look all funky
[23:00:47] 	 (Of course I tried just throwing up plain HTML
[23:00:49] 	 )
[23:02:15] 	 03(mod) Deployment of global AbuseFilter rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44975  (10Trijnstel)
[23:03:24] 	 mwalker: You highlighted y'self, but nonetheless, I'll keep you abreast of the status.
[23:03:29] * c  pings Dantman again
[23:04:00] 	 marktraceur: *facepalm* just goes to show how distracted I am today
[23:04:03] 	 but thanks :)
[23:05:45] 	 c: That sounds like standard HTML/CSS issues... nothing to do with MW.
[23:05:50] 	 New patchset: Alex Monk; "(bug 44814) Don't double-escape the date header on Special:Notifications" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48235
[23:06:31] 	 Dantman: so you won't help with a browser discrepancy with a custom skin?
[23:07:15] 	 My specialty is the server side code for the skin system itself
[23:07:43] 	 Not the finer points of browser rendering issues.
[23:08:15] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "mostly revert 4a6ff3bc1722677e4fcb6e6fb9fdff729c067ad6" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48970
[23:10:03] 	 New review: Katie Horn; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48970
[23:10:04] 	 Change merged: Katie Horn; [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48970
[23:11:44] 	 New patchset: Terrrydactyl; "Can read and return contents of file." [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47824
[23:11:56] 	 Dereckson: ^
[23:15:48] 	 terrrydactyl: two additional questions -> are you handling caching at all, or is it just pull on render? and; does the parser completely replace your tag with the source content, or do you pull new content every time you render?
[23:17:33] 	 Would anyone know how to get something above all wiki content, similar to this: http://zeldadungeon.net/wiki/
[23:17:44] 	 New review: Spage; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28199
[23:17:54] 	 Note how all the wiki content (including user links) appear below the Zelda Dungeon header.
[23:18:04] 	 That's what I want for my wiki.
[23:18:08] 	 But I can't seem to figure out how to push the content down.
[23:18:35] 	 New patchset: Adamw; "fu 13d6b6f8655a20395483ee9575817a246f24e65f" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48971
[23:18:42] 	 mwalker: for now, i'm storing the repository on a temp folder, presumably on the computer that's running the software. Dereckson and i still have to talk about how to handle this. we haven't talked about updating the repo quite yet since it's still in the early stages.
[23:19:05] 	 mwalker: also, i'm doing this extension as part of an internship project, so i'm learning as i go.
[23:19:24] 	 so it's very exciting that someone else has an interest in it. :D
[23:19:37] 	 New review: Katie Horn; "Patch Set 1: Verified+1 Code-Review+2" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48971
[23:19:43] 	 terrrydactyl: when you create a new parser function, you get the cache feature automatically.
[23:19:46] 	 New review: Katie Horn; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48971
[23:19:47] 	 Change merged: Katie Horn; [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48971
[23:20:13] 	 terrrydactyl: oh; I get it -- for some reason I had it stuck in my head you were pulling single files, not the whole repo
[23:20:22] 	 Dereckson: oh! is that why i have to edit each time i want to check my changes? didn't realize this was what he's talking about.
[23:20:38] 	 mwalker: it would be great if i can pull single files, but i haven't found a good way to do that, if there is one.
[23:21:11] 	 So, um...
[23:21:12] 	 Dereckson: We still do extra caching if it's smething network related.
[23:21:14] 	 Anyone?
[23:21:35] 	 mwalker: current workflow is (i) pull repo (ii) checkout branch (iii) print files - Git isn't as flexible like cvs to easily checkout one file
[23:21:47] 	 terrrydactyl: http://schacon.github.com/git/git-read-tree.html#_sparse_checkout is something to investigate
[23:23:06] 	 justin____, I haven't looked too deeply into it, but if you adjust the header area, you also have to adjust the CSS for some other parts of the page
[23:23:16] 	 Specifically, things that use position: absolute;
[23:23:51] * terrrydactyl  checks out Dereckson's link
[23:24:06] 	 Like, if I open up Chrome's inspector, and add display: none; to #site (which is the extra header), then not every part of the page moves up to fill the space
[23:24:31] 	 Specifically, the title of the site, the sidebar, and the tab/search bar.
[23:24:35] 	 justin____: about all I've got is an extension that modifies the page DOM after page load -- you can take a look at how we do it for fundraising banners -- http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=B13_020100_clrtxt_gold_dr_ptBR (banners get injected into page DOM at  

[23:26:03] 	 terrrydactyl: I was also going to suggest the "-n --depth 1" options when cloning (doesn't checkout everything by default and only fetches the current tree head) and then you can "git checkout HEAD name_of_file"
[23:26:03] 	 #mw-head and #mw-panel have position: absolute
[23:26:24] 	 So you'd have to play with the "top" property for those two rules in CSS.
[23:26:26] 	 Aha. So you use javascript to add it in.
[23:26:32] 	 I may try that.
[23:26:39] 	 Either by editing the skin files directly, editing MediaWiki:Common.css, or, yes, Javascript trickery
[23:28:01] 	 Change abandoned: awjrichards; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (wmf/1.21wmf6) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43371
[23:28:17] 	 mwalker: that sounds cool. i'm still learning git. even after working on it for a bit, there's still so much to learn.
[23:28:53] 	 New patchset: Matmarex; "adjustments to footer cleanup's CSS" [mediawiki/extensions/Vector] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48039
[23:29:00] 	 New patchset: Krinkle; "(bug 43172) Tweak account creation interface messages for logged in users" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39862
[23:29:19] 	 All I know is the basics, but it's enough to throw things onto GitHub and to revert in case things go horribly wrong.
[23:29:55] 	 terrrydactyl: git has one heck of a learning curve -- it's a bit ridiculous; still -- much better than SVN imo
[23:30:46] 	 mwalker: the basics weren't too bad to learn, but there's so many different things you can do, at this point, it doesn't ever seem to get easier, haha.
[23:30:53] 	 It's kinda like vi
[23:30:58] 	 "you can do a billion billion things"
[23:30:59] 	 haven't worked with SVN so i can't compare
[23:31:11] 	 "but you'll probably be doing these 4 things 99% of the time"
[23:31:18] 	 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Invalid argument supplied for foreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44907  +comment (10krinklemail)
[23:31:40] 	 K__: i've grown to really like vim
[23:32:23] 	 Never really used emacs much, if ever.
[23:32:26] * mwalker  prepares fire extinguishers for the flame war
[23:32:28] 	 Only used it for the Tetris easter egg.
[23:32:43] 	 Went from nano (don't hate) to vi many years ago.
[23:32:48] 	 The colon key is my friend.
[23:32:49] 	 i couldn't get emacs to work at all. i was so confused.
[23:32:49] 	 I'm actually using vi atm
[23:32:51] 	 As well as the escape key.
[23:32:58] 	 Is there really a difference between vi and vim?
[23:33:05] 	 Yeah
[23:33:14] 	 Though most of the time on relatively modern systems, vi will alias to vim
[23:33:41] 	 If you think vim is obtuse, you don't want to see vi, heheh.
[23:33:51] 	 I think I've seen vi.
[23:34:00] 	 Where any arrow key in insert mode screws you over.
[23:34:13] 	 Delicious antiquated keymappings
[23:34:29] 	 I assume that's what you were referring to.
[23:34:32] 	 Probably my least favorite thing about working with Solaris systems.
[23:34:42] 	 my buttons don't work :(
[23:34:46] 	 or hp-ux or bsd
[23:34:56] 	 Also those
[23:34:57] 	 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Invalid argument supplied for foreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44907  (10Krinkle)
[23:34:57] 	 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700  (10Krinkle)
[23:35:10] 	 Though I haven't had to touch HP-UX.
[23:35:30] 	 be very glad
[23:35:38] 	 03(NEW) provide a gitweb link on gerrit's change review page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44976 enhancement; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[23:42:06] 	 03(mod) AutoLoader adds $IP to network share path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44953  +comment (10krinklemail)
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[23:54:06] 	 https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Abusefilter-global :P
[23:59:23] 	 Is wikitext parsing in JqeryMsg still broken?