[00:00:08] http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Internals-Git-Objects gives some information about internals and storage [00:00:26] * MatmaRex_ disappears. good night [00:00:51] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49084 [00:06:14] New review: Mdale; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [00:06:15] Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48789 [00:06:16] let's say i only clone the bare repository, what command would i use to find the file? my current code assumes that there's a path to the file, but the working directory isn't populated? what command do i call to pull the file into the working tree? and would the path still be the same? [00:06:21] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49089 [00:06:31] 03(mod) Parsoid: Editing a page that starts with a comment causes Parsoid to crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44970 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:06:59] i'm just trying to wrap my head around how to incorporate this without having to rewrite everything. [00:07:40] it's still checkout [00:08:43] so `git checkout /path/to/file`? [00:10:38] New review: Mdale; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [00:10:38] Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48791 [00:11:50] yes [00:11:51] New review: Mdale; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47748 [00:12:09] Change abandoned: Mdale; "I think we can remove this change request if we push in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48452/" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47748 [00:13:58] Dereckson: should i be modifying my code to assume that i'll be using a bare repository or would it be better to be setting flags so both options (bare repository, full repository) would work in the same function? [00:14:21] i want to keep GitRepository.php flexible in case it gets used later on [00:14:30] but it also want it to work well with my extension [00:17:50] keep the existing clone/checkout and add new methods could be indeed a good idea [00:18:01] * Dantman would always get the file from git commands instead of from the working copy. [00:18:11] New review: Mdale; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48452 [00:18:12] Change merged: Mdale; [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48452 [00:18:43] okay. i'll add some new methods then [00:20:38] Dereckson: i fixed the style issues from the last change. can you merge it? [00:24:20] 03(mod) Etherpad does not work on https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35637 (10jeremyb) [00:24:38] 03(mod) Etherpad does not work on https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35637 +ops (10jeremyb) [00:27:08] 03(mod) Rendering of malayalam fonts in SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25140 +comment (10jeremyb) [00:28:41] 03(mod) Make preference "E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45022 +comment (10zhorishna) [00:37:29] New patchset: Wizardist; "Don't interfere in tab rendering if the current NS is not affected by the config" [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49186 [00:38:20] New review: Wizardist; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49186 [00:38:21] Change merged: Wizardist; [mediawiki/extensions/NamespaceRelations] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49186 [00:39:14] 03(mod) http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/en/Single_Ladies_%28Put_a_Ring_on_It%29 slow and broken rendering of {{listen}} template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45026 +comment (10gwicke) [00:39:55] New review: Dereckson; "Patch Set 4: Verified+1 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47824 [00:40:02] I love that I keep getting pinged by a bug report about "Single Ladies" [00:40:04] New review: Dereckson; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 2 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47824 [00:40:04] Change merged: Dereckson; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47824 [00:41:00] New patchset: Mwalker; "Prevent Donors from Using the CC# as a Name" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49187 [00:41:16] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 +comment (10zhorishna) [00:43:44] I am having trouble with $wgInstantCommons = true. Yesterday - with no mods on my end - images from the Commons quit loading on my wiki, and everything slowed to a crawl. This also happened back when WM was moving their servers from FL to VA, and it resolved itself. But now it's back. Help? [00:43:59] New review: Pgehres; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49187 [00:43:59] local images work just fine. [00:44:34] How the hell do you add release notes? [00:45:02] And I apologise for my crankiness. I just got up. I'm cranky. It doesn't mean anything about anyone here, [00:45:05] . [00:45:16] But, like, release notes. [00:46:30] 03(mod) Parsoid: Tables don't round-trip cleanly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45024 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:47:56] New patchset: Mwalker; "Prevent Donors from Using the CC# as a Name" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49187 [00:49:33] New patchset: Adamw; "refund consumer fixes" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49189 [00:51:48] New review: Katie Horn; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49189 [00:51:48] Change merged: Katie Horn; [wikimedia/fundraising/civicrm] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49189 [00:52:50] 03(mod) Parsoid: whitespace preservation when serializing edited content completely broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45023 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:57:03] 03(mod) Add button actions for links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44734 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:07:55] New review: Catrope; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49179 [01:10:54] 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785 +comment (10zhorishna) [01:13:07] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49179 [01:16:35] 03(NEW) Support transactions on metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45029 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; () [01:16:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support transactions on metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45029 summary (10Roan Kattouw) [01:18:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support transactions on metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45029 (10James Forrester) [01:18:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39597 (10James Forrester) [01:25:04] 03(NEW) Weird text exposed above textarea on test2.wikipedia.org when attempting to save invalid JSON Schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45030 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [01:28:02] what is the difference between includes/installer/ and mw-config/? [01:29:30] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [01:31:09] 03(NEW) Namespace registration via CanonicalNamespaces hook is broken on testwiki and test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45031 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [01:31:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support transactions on metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45029 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [01:38:51] RoanKattouw: can you quickly point me to documentation about how includes/installer/ relates to mw-config? I'm trying to add more details to [[Manual:Code]] [01:40:01] Ahm [01:40:08] That's a very weak relationship [01:40:13] includes/installer is the installer for 3rd-party users [01:40:19] mw-config is the name of the repository for the WMF config [01:42:51] not sure I understand. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script seems to imply that mw-config is for all installations: [01:43:05] "2. You will see the version of MediaWiki installed and a link to "Please set up the wiki first." Click on the link to begin the configuration script. For reference (in case you want to go there directly), this is located in the wiki's mw-config directory (so using the example above you would go to http://www.example.com/w/mw-config/index." [01:44:13] (I realize we probably were talking about different mw-config's) [01:44:58] RoanKattouw was talking about mediawiki-config rather than mw-config [01:45:28] Oh [01:45:30] Crap [01:45:31] Right [01:45:32] sorry if I was unclear [01:45:36] Sorry, my mistake [01:45:48] I forgot about mw-config, it's been forever since I worked on the installer [01:45:49] I meant to add a / after the dirname [01:46:13] So yeah [01:46:53] mw-config is the directory that contains the file (mw-config/index.php) that runs the installer [01:47:03] The actual installer code is in includes/installer [01:47:09] index.php is just the runner shell around that stuff [01:47:32] why isn't it all at one place? [01:47:45] or at least with names that make clear they're related? [01:51:23] 03(NEW) wgIsArticle set to false on articles when wgAction = edit/submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45032 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; () [01:51:24] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2114 (10Danny B.) [01:52:37] Waldir: because class files go in the includes directory and entry points do not [01:52:48] The name is confusing though [01:52:59] aren't the other entry points directly in the root? [01:53:14] that's what Manual:Code says at least [01:53:14] the name is pretty stupid [01:53:32] but you don't have to know it, because when you go to index.php, you are given a link to it [01:53:47] that is how it should normally be discovered by users, either that or the manual [01:54:13] yes but I'm concerned about developers [01:54:17] Waldir: most other entry points are in the root [01:54:21] developers can read the code [01:54:23] there is litle documentation about this [01:54:33] it's pretty easy to find it once you actually open the file [01:54:57] yes, and code can be self-documenting, using intuitive filenames, etc [01:54:59] you can find any class in the MW core by looking at AutoLoader.php [01:57:13] TimStarling: thanks, I'll note that :) [01:57:46] is there a full list of mw entry points? especially those not in the root dir [01:57:49] 03(NEW) wgCategories not populated on wgAction = edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45033 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; () [01:57:50] 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2114 (10Danny B.) [02:03:31] 03(mod) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936 +need-parsertest +parser; +comment (10Danny B.) [02:11:29] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/php/luasandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49084 [02:11:45] TimStarling: do you know from memory what entry points are not in the root dir? or is there any way to get a list? [02:12:22] you can grep for WebStart.php [02:12:26] New review: Anomie; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49083 [02:15:49] 03(mod) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936 +comment (10danny.b) [02:31:57] TimStarling: thanks. I noticed that all of them use "require ( __DIR__ . '/includes/WebStart.php' );" except opensearch_desc.php, which uses require_once(). Is that deliberate or just an overlook? [02:32:02] 03(mod) Parser functions in additional parameters of {{#tag:}} ignored / thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44936 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [02:33:22] it's wrong [02:33:27] Also, some have an additional "require ( 'phase3/includes/WebStart.php' );", while others use require ( 'core/includes/WebStart.php' ); -- these can't be both correct? [02:33:35] Is there anyway a bot can read Special:Newpages and review an edit? [02:36:49] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47340 [02:39:50] Hello? [02:44:45] 03(NEW) Defining a variable with the name "Input" using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables fails to remember var. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45034 major; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; () [02:47:58] New patchset: Tim Starling; "[Database] Added support for lock/unlock in Postgres." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47099 [02:48:05] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 5: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47099 [02:49:42] gagnam style [02:49:46] David0811: anything is possible [02:50:00] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47099 [02:52:49] Can bots already read Special Pages TimStarling ? [02:53:03] coul they already read [02:53:07] bots can read any web page [02:54:23] oh sorry, ithought maybe they couldn't as it's not a static page :) [02:54:49] static collection of links [02:55:06] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [02:59:09] Any idea why UseInstantCommons would not be working? It suddenly stopped on my wiki with no changes made on my end. [03:01:51] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47378 [03:02:21] jomegat: what happens when you try to use it? [03:02:33] I get red links. It was working last week. [03:02:50] local images load fine. Commons images don't show up and slow everything down drastically. [03:03:10] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47378 [03:04:33] jomegat: try setting up a debug log, it will have log lines about the remote HTTP requests [03:04:49] how would I do that? [03:04:57] (OK, I'll look it up) [03:04:58] 03(mod) Bring settings translations on mediawiki.org: dummy install of Configure extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43380 +comment (10Waldir) [03:05:03] $wgDebugLogFile = '/path/to/debug.log'; [03:05:15] where debug.log is writable by the webserver [03:05:38] thanks. Is that an absolute path or a relative path? [03:05:48] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Disable background linting using WebWorkers" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49198 [03:05:49] absolute [03:06:08] it should not be in the document root [03:06:17] it will contain session IDs [03:06:58] once you have the URLs, you can test them with the "curl" command line tool to see what their responses are [03:08:02] I do not have CLI access to the hosting server. [03:08:04] TimStarling: would you like me to add you to any patches I make against CodeEditor? I can get superm401 or S page to review. [03:08:10] is that going to be a problem? [03:08:15] Pretty much limited to ftp [03:09:31] ori-l: I'd rather not get involved with it if there are other people available [03:09:44] like I say, it's not my usual area [03:10:19] jomegat: it's not a problem, you can download the debug log with FTP [03:10:20] TimStarling: Yes, I figured. It's enough that you're vaguely aware of there being some activity. [03:12:37] so I'd be using curl from my local machine? [03:13:00] also... is there a good way to figure out an absolute pathname? [03:14:57] jomegat: that is true, it will be a bit more complicated to test for network and firewall issues [03:15:07] I'd either like the patrolled flag to be modified to include a new link called "speed deletion" or/and would like some tool to detect eswiki's speedy deletion template TimStarling [03:15:10] but getting the debug log is a good start [03:15:28] you can get the absolute path from phpinfo() [03:15:41] you know that trick? just make a script with in it [03:15:56] Yes. Thanks. [03:16:22] so that later a page tagged for speedy deletion would be shaded red to ditiguish it from verified an unverified pages [03:17:11] New patchset: Tim Starling; "Added support for notifying relevant admins of email confirmations." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48333 [03:17:29] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48333 [03:17:29] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48333 [03:17:57] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/CodeEditor] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49198 [03:20:22] what do you think would be worth doing TimStarling ? [03:21:54] David0811: sounds like you want to write a gadget [03:22:28] Can't find the URL to my phpinfo() script. When I ftp in I get a chrooted environment (I guess). In that root dir, I see my LocalSettings.php. I can't go to the parent dir from there. [03:22:54] and I don't recognize any subdirs. [03:24:21] sorry if I sound so helpless, but it's only because... I am so helpless. :-/ [03:26:20] jomegat: that's a sucky setup [03:26:44] usually shared web hosts give you a public_html or something separate from the FTP chroot [03:27:04] what's the URL? [03:27:16] the URL of the wiki [03:27:48] http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [03:28:14] there is no public_html directory. [03:28:20] in the root at least. [03:31:14] so you uploaded the phpinfo script, and it gave a 404 when you navigated there? [03:31:28] worse than a 404 - it redirected me elsewhere. [03:31:51] but I don't think I DID navigate there, because I am unable to divine the URL of my root dir. [03:32:38] can I toss it into the skins directory? If I did, what would the url be? [03:32:57] you say you have LocalSettings.php in the FTP root? [03:33:01] yes [03:33:31] so it'd be http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/phpinfo.php [03:33:39] assuming that's what you called your script [03:33:48] ok, I'll try that [03:33:54] LocalSettings.php is at http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/LocalSettings.php [03:39:36] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 9:" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48782 [03:39:38] OK, I've got a good URL now, but phpinfo must be disabled on this server. returns Hello, [03:40:40] plain old returns nothing. [03:43:19] they probably patched it out [03:43:59] but you can do print __DIR__ to at least give the path you want [03:44:36] var_dump($_SERVER) would give lots of useful information [03:46:16] var_dump(ini_get_all()) would be handy too [03:46:29] both __FILE__ and __DIR__ returnempty strings. But var_dump gives lots of ammo. [03:46:36] http://www.investitureachievement.org/wiki/jwt.php [03:49:10] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "Checked canReceiveEmail() before sending admins email." [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49199 [03:50:38] ok, I've got a path now (thanks for the help). debug info coming soon... [03:53:14] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49199 [03:53:15] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmAccount] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49199 [03:57:45] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Database] Set bytea_output to match pg_unescape_bytea()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47340 [03:59:00] Here's the relevant message from the debug log: Error fetching URL: couldn't connect to host [03:59:11] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [03:59:42] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [04:00:16] 03(mod) Logo for Sami Wikipedia should read "Friddja diehtos�tnegirji" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30798 (10jeremyb) [04:01:53] New patchset: Tim Starling; "[Database] Set bytea_output to match pg_unescape_bytea()." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47340 [04:02:01] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47340 [04:03:36] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47340 [04:04:44] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 14230) Add a button to request a new fancy captcha" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [04:06:12] New patchset: Tim Starling; "[LockManager] Created PostgreSqlLockManager class." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [04:06:19] New review: Tim Starling; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [04:08:10] Change merged: Tim Starling; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47332 [04:08:16] New review: Mattflaschen; "Patch Set 12:" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [04:11:57] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Avoid spamming the runJobs log with large blobs." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49201 [04:15:22] New patchset: Pastakhov; "fix Leaflet problem with resource loader" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49202 [04:15:48] wow, cas() is broken for sql cache [04:15:53] * Aaron|home fixes [04:17:23] This too: http-curl-error [04:17:25] Error fetching URL: connect() timed out! [04:19:14] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[BagOStuff] De-breakified cas() for SqlBagOStuff." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49203 [04:19:25] jomegat: sounds like it is firewalled [04:20:18] anyone paranoid enough to disable phpinfo() would surely not hesitate to firewall all sorts of outbound connections, right? [04:20:30] Yes. I had read about some SELinux settings, but my service provider said they weren't using "Selinux". I don't think he really knew. [04:21:03] since he spelled it using those cases. [04:21:36] but... how do you politely ask someone if they have any idea what they are talking about? My guess is that he though Selinux was a distribution. [04:24:52] "so getenforce said it was disabled? or just permissive?" [04:25:43] but it's probably not SELinux, it's probably a firewall [04:26:09] you can try curl from the server to other websites, or to other ports [04:27:35] you could ask to see the output of iptables -L [04:33:43] I've already asked about a firewall. Waiting for a response. I don't want to overburden them with too many questions because then they tend to answer only the ones they want to answer. [04:34:09] I'll ask about iptables next. Thanks for the advice. [04:37:54] 03(mod) wikieditor-toolbar-help-content-signaturetimestamp-result: Parse error at position 19 in input: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42107 +comment (10Sorawee Porncharoenwase) [04:45:14] 03(mod) Parsoid normalizes categories to have an empty sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44971 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:08:38] How can I remove the "Community portal", "Help" etc links from my wiki? [05:08:54] konr: edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [05:09:08] liangent: thanks! [05:20:44] How can I hide the Toolbox only from non-registered users? [05:33:57] New patchset: Liangent; "Set initial language and variant user preferences to user's preferred variant on user registration" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48236 [05:37:44] TimStarling: thanks, it looks like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/48223 is the only important one left atm [05:42:12] no problem [05:43:27] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Use target wiki configuration for some key functions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47378 [05:43:42] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 4:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47378 [05:47:09] Can anybody tell me how to get my MW to support large images (such as pan & zoom)? [05:48:16] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Use target wiki configuration for some key functions." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47378 [06:02:19] 03(mod) wbcreateclaim does not support &bot=1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44857 +comment (10Legoktm) [06:06:23] 03(mod) Make preference "E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45022 +comment (10federicoleva) [06:16:54] New patchset: Waldir; "Fix commit 5782d0838" [mediawiki/extensions/Maintenance] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49206 [06:20:24] 03(NEW) Database errors occur while merging accounts with MergeAccount - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45035 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; () [06:24:16] 03(mod) Namespace registration via CanonicalNamespaces hook is broken on testwiki and test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45031 (10MZMcBride) [06:26:38] 03(mod) Enable Post-edit feedback on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44604 +comment (10sb_nadwi) [06:26:56] 03(mod) Namespace registration via CanonicalNamespaces hook is broken on testwiki and test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45031 normal->major; +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:39:54] 03(mod) Bring settings translations on mediawiki.org: dummy install of Configure extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43380 +comment (10federicoleva) [06:43:42] 03(mod) Version number shouldn't always use localized parentheses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40254 +comment (10Liangent) [06:44:56] 03(mod) Make preference "E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45022 +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:45:24] 03(mod) Bring settings translations on mediawiki.org: dummy install of Configure extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43380 (10MZMcBride) [06:51:35] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 +comment (10federicoleva) [06:52:02] New patchset: J; "Update the right element while publishing a resource" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49207 [06:55:23] New review: J; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940 [07:00:54] 03(mod) "Old Version History" is not set properly when jumping between changesets (via dependency only?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37373 +comment (10Liangent) [07:01:10] 03(mod) Make preference "E-mail me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45022 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:12:13] 03(mod) link changed to "MyCourses" in Special:MyCourses feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45010 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [07:17:41] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49207 [07:17:42] Change merged: Aaron Schulz; [mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49207 [07:18:22] j^: were you testing with localhost? [07:20:16] Aaron|home: yes I still see the ooms going on on mw1010 [07:22:06] I see them going back to feb 10 at least though [07:23:33] same is true on randomly chosen other host mw1011 [07:26:08] ^j: huh, CU still uses $wgRequest [07:27:34] unfortunately it's hard to see what set it off, the first error messages we see after boot (yesterday I rebooted the box so I have that) are truncated: [07:27:49] Feb 14 20:50:52 mw1010 t of memory [1804] [07:27:49] Feb 14 20:50:52 t last message repeated 2 times [07:27:55] the first complete message is this: [07:28:18] Feb 14 20:50:52 mw1010 kernel: [ 2005.360840] php[1815]: segfault at 2c ip 00007f0c13e427a4 sp 00007fff917d8740 error 6 in libmemcached.so.10.0.0[7f0c13e28000+32000] [07:28:22] about 4 lines later [07:28:32] may or may not be of any use :-( [07:29:38] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[Upload] Moved sync upload stuff to the job queue." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48940 [07:31:54] apergos: the load, run rate, and enwiki # jobs graphs look fine, whatever it is, it's not causing *too* much trouble [07:32:03] still weird though [07:32:16] I wondr if some of those jobs are not completing [07:32:37] well they get 3 attempts [07:32:47] though if they keep failing, then no it won't complete [07:35:49] New patchset: Waldir; "Clean up access points, specifically the lines requiring WebStart.php" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49208 [07:40:00] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME +COMMAND [07:40:01] 18600 apache 39 19 362m 93m 4072 S 91 0.8 0:19.78 php [07:40:14] that's typical, limit for cli is 100m for php [07:40:41] the lower end is 346m virt 77m res [07:46:10] reminds me of the dynamic linking thing I was talking to tim about earlier [07:46:27] if you ulimit memory shelling out to php, you need like 400mb [07:49:17] well it's in php.ini, the setting [07:49:33] * Aaron|home wonders why there are 23 processors listed on mw1002 [07:51:03] each processor is hex core [07:51:10] so 8 of them I guess [07:51:14] er [07:51:18] 4 of them [07:52:00] count starts at 0 of course [07:52:10] *24 [07:57:35] apergos: so there are about 511 refreshLinks jobs on enwiki that failed out 3x [07:57:56] New patchset: Legoktm; "Update README.md to reflect new repository name" [mediawiki/vagrant] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49209 [07:57:57] hmm, wrong channel probably [07:58:01] in what time frame? [07:58:14] ah yeah that would be my fault for starting the convo in here [07:59:29] 20121113114416 - 20130215030727 [07:59:33] what convo? [07:59:39] conversation [07:59:52] well yeah ;) [08:00:02] spiked on 20130209 / 20130210 [08:00:27] what happened then? [08:03:47] I don't see anything [08:05:33] ugh [08:05:53] SAL looks quite then [08:08:10] many thousands of links jobs have gone though the queue in the last week [08:08:33] I wonder how many fail once or wtice [08:08:35] twice [08:08:44] so 511 isn't that high (out of a couple 100k) [08:08:47] that would be worth finding out I guess [08:12:39] 03(mod) Articles I edit do not add to my watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41573 (10Legoktm) [08:20:46] 03(NEW) Update favicons for Wikimedia projects to provide high res variant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45036 enhancement; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [08:20:46] 03(mod) High-density display issues (tracking) xhdpi hdpi Retina high-resolution HiDPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101 (10Krinkle) [08:21:01] 03(mod) Update favicons for Wikimedia projects to provide high res variant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45036 (10Krinkle) [08:21:02] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49170 [08:21:23] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49170 [08:21:54] New review: Aaron Schulz; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49080 [08:22:12] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49080 [08:22:58] 03(mod) Update favicons for Wikimedia projects to provide high res variant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45036 +comment (10krinklemail) [08:34:26] 03(mod) Update favicons for Wikimedia projects to provide high res variant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45036 (10Danny B.) [08:36:41] New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review+1" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 [08:37:59] New review: Ori.livneh; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/vagrant] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49209 [08:38:11] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/vagrant] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49209 [08:40:36] New patchset: Krinkle; "Bugzilla frontpage: make common tasks easier accessible" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 [08:40:55] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1:" [wikimedia/bugzilla/modifications] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42089 [08:43:22] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48609 [08:46:07] New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Add i18n file" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49210 [08:46:40] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change test base class registration so Jenkins does not run into problems" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49211 [08:47:37] JeroenDeDauw: that patchset remembers me I did not validate the extensions I have added yesterday :D [08:48:08] hashar: looks good, except the issue I just fixed [08:48:17] huh [08:48:18] or not [08:49:25] JeroenDeDauw: want me to make the tests non blocking so you can merge ? [08:49:45] hashar: I rather see the issue fixed [08:50:12] ping me if you need any help / review whatever :) [08:50:43] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove non-needed class registration check" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49212 [08:51:04] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48824 [08:53:53] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49202 [08:54:35] Oh I get it... /facepalm [09:00:12] 03(NEW) Suppressing interlanguage links inclusion should also hide "Edit links" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45037 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [09:00:32] 03(mod) Suppressing interlanguage links inclusion should also hide "Edit links" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45037 (10Krinkle) [09:00:48] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Require the DataValues library to be loaded" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:04:42] hashar: please to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49214/ :p [09:06:35] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2:" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48619 [09:07:08] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48619 [09:10:35] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48619 [09:12:15] * JeroenDeDauw nudges hashar [09:17:50] 03(mod) Hide my own feedback posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45028 +comment (10mmullie) [09:18:44] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [09:19:11] JeroenDeDauw: srroy was talking [09:19:23] JeroenDeDauw: ahh depednencies [09:19:25] grmblbl [09:19:45] JeroenDeDauw: regenerating job [09:20:27] Change abandoned: MaxSem; "Was resolved elsewhere." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37228 [09:21:43] 03(mod) mw.config: wgIsArticle should be true when editing an existing article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45032 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [09:22:58] JeroenDeDauw: mwext-Ask-testextensions-master should now contains the dependencies. [09:25:31] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Require the DataValues library to be loaded" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:25:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [09:28:13] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "rename SelectionRequest to Selection and ThisSelection to SubjectSelection" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [09:28:17] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Change test base class registration so Jenkins does not run into problems" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49211 [09:30:50] New patchset: Pastakhov; "fix Leaflet problem with resource loader" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49202 [09:32:08] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [09:32:41] hashar: yay! works :) [09:32:48] 03(NEW) gerrit: swap CR / V columns in dashboard view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45038 enhancement; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [09:32:57] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48621 [09:32:59] 03(mod) gerrit: swap CR / V columns in dashboard view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45038 15enhancement->trivial (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:33:23] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove non-needed class registration check" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49212 [09:33:28] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Require the DataValues library to be loaded" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:33:44] New review: Pastakhov; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49202 [09:34:59] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Added docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [09:35:12] 03(mod) SpecialItemByTitle must not use Title object to represent remote title. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44968 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [09:35:20] JeroenDeDauw: congratulations [09:39:01] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [09:41:20] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 2: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49211 [09:41:51] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49211 [09:42:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Added docs" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [09:43:54] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [09:44:15] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48822 [09:44:16] 03(mod) [Regression] Only first and last suggestion in link assistent accessible via keybord - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44988 +comment (10Michael M.) [09:45:13] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Added direction field to SortExpression" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48823 [09:46:39] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48823 [09:46:59] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48823 [09:48:33] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Kick out isSingleton method. Apparently it is not used in the SMW query engine at all" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48824 [09:51:02] New patchset: Jeroen De Dauw; "Remove non-needed class registration check" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49212 [09:51:33] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 3: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48824 [09:51:40] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48824 [09:51:54] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49208 [09:52:01] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 1: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49210 [09:52:32] New review: Krinkle; "Patch Set 1:" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49208 [09:52:49] Change merged: Siebrand; [mediawiki/extensions/Git2Pages] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49210 [09:53:23] New patchset: John Erling Blad; "Require the DataValues library to be loaded" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:53:53] New review: Siebrand; "Patch Set 12: Code-Review+1" [mediawiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/44376 [09:55:32] New review: John Erling Blad; "Patch Set 4: Verified+2 Code-Review+2" [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:56:04] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/Ask] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49213 [09:56:50]