[00:00:12] I suppose it can stay in; it's in an HTML comment [00:00:18] i faintly remember that the debug info was added outside of it [00:00:31] of the formatter code [00:00:45] ApiSandbox relies on request time, btw:) [00:01:08] 03(mod) [OPS] syslog::server (in test) unusuable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36748 +comment (10hashar) [00:01:28] * yurik is thinking of yet another parameter - showdebuginfo [00:01:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Generalize logic in ve.FormatAction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45247 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [00:01:45] New patchset: PleaseStand; "Fix two problems arising from 1.21 changes" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52296 [00:01:57] that will add things like time spent, etc, as elements to the result tree [00:02:23] New patchset: Kaldari; "Switching HTMLForm to use Html::check instead of Xml::check" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52308 [00:05:05] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "I have some code extending the capabilities of the MW DB abstraction layer. For instance it allows c..." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52177 [00:05:20] PleaseStand: Hi. [00:05:35] New patchset: Aaron Schulz; "[JobQueue] Added JobQueue::getAllQueuedJobs() function." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50138 [00:06:02] 03(mod) Please create ombudsmen.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45744 +comment (10pbeaudette) [00:06:09] New review: MZMcBride; "Related to bug 45634?" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52296 [00:07:20] New review: Aaron Schulz; "ArrayIterator used and RedisJobQueue function unbroken (must have been testing the wrong thing)." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50138 [00:07:58] New review: PleaseStand; "Yes; I'll add the bug number." [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52296 [00:08:14] New patchset: PleaseStand; "Fix two problems arising from 1.21 changes" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52296 [00:09:23] 03(mod) ApiSandbox incorrectly shows two (2) generator selectors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45634 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10PleaseStand) [00:11:38] New review: RobLa; "I would like to make sure that Jan is the one that ultimately approves this change (if it does get a..." [mediawiki/extensions/TimedMediaHandler] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51663 [00:11:49] 03(mod) Rewrite getToken function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45516 +comment (10Jon) [00:12:03] New patchset: Shirayuki; "Changing position of colon for consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52318 [00:13:56] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add email bundling function to Echo notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52319 [00:14:03] New patchset: Subramanya Sastry; "Make sure Parsoid doesn't get snobbish and treat non-html5 tags badly." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52320 [00:16:42] New patchset: Shirayuki; "Changing position of colon for consistency" [mediawiki/extensions/ApiSandbox] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52322 [00:17:47] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add emitLog() sugar for triggering loggroup-specific emitLog events" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52323 [00:18:43] New review: Krinkle; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52308 [00:20:15] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50943 [00:22:38] New patchset: Massaf; "Add Vector testing template to Agora" [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52324 [00:22:50] New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #806) log message when STOMP send fails" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52325 [00:26:33] New patchset: Adamw; "(FR #806) log message when STOMP send fails" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52325 [00:28:14] New patchset: Mwjames; "SMW\ParserHookHandler class eliminate the need for static binding" [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51974 [00:29:50] New review: Spage; "(5 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2); V: 1 - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51830 [00:29:53] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Avoid instantiating ResourceLoader modules twice" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52327 [00:31:49] New review: Mwjames; "Add additional tests and assertions." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51974 [00:32:32] 03(mod) Rename to Education program - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45756 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [00:37:03] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52327 [00:37:56] New review: Shirayuki; "I've added "en-gb" translation here:" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52224 [00:41:54] New review: Hashar; "That new method could use a dummy unit test :-]" [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52308 [00:43:53] New review: Alex Monk; "en is American English? When was that decision made and who made it?" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52224 [00:44:13] New review: Aude; "thanks. looks okay for localisation messages :)" [mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52224 [00:50:25] New patchset: Kaldari; "Switching HTMLForm to use Html::input instead of Xml::check" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52308 [00:51:18] 03(mod) Google Maps not working with https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45697 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [00:51:56] New review: Jeroen De Dauw; "Thanks :)" [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52220 [00:51:57] Change merged: Jeroen De Dauw; [mediawiki/extensions/Maps] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52220 [00:52:48] New patchset: Kaldari; "Switching HTMLForm to use Html::input instead of Xml::check" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52308 [00:53:06] 03(mod) Edit conflict handling is broken on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44360 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:55:04] 03(mod) getExpandedArguments should not count toward the 10-second Lua execution limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45684 +comment (10tstarling) [00:55:50] New review: Massaf; "Matt brought up the point that this might cause a maintainability issue; our Vector template wouldn'..." [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52324 [00:57:10] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "(bug 45526) Implement htmlEqual QUnit assertion helper." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52336 [01:02:45] New review: Mattflaschen; "Yeah. It's a little more up front work. But if you set up a local install (e.g. with https://githu..." [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52324 [01:03:01] New review: Adamw; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52212 [01:03:20] New review: Mattflaschen; "See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Features#Debug_mode" [mediawiki/extensions/Agora] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52324 [01:03:29] New review: Mwjames; "For those who don't care much about unit tests the following should allow to demonstrate available o..." [mediawiki/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51974 [01:04:36] 03(mod) Implement QUnit assert.htmlEqual test helper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45526 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:07:26] New patchset: Pgehres; "Refactoring SpecialGlobalUsers.php and SpecialMergeAccount.php to use XML and HTML forms." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52337 [01:07:31] Hi everyone [01:08:00] I really have a NS question I need answered [01:08:20] Change abandoned: Pgehres; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/core] (fundraising/1.20) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37954 [01:09:57] 03(NEW) searchbox on meta.wikimedia.org doesn't autocomplete some "Grants:" pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45760 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; () [01:10:11] Change abandoned: Pgehres; "(no reason)" [mediawiki/extensions/DonationInterface] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23369 [01:10:19] TomH: NextStep? [01:10:20] New patchset: Kaldari; "Reverting temporary change Iedb304 as promised" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52339 [01:10:25] Change abandoned: Pgehres; "(no reason)" [wikimedia/fundraising/PaymentsListeners] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/30730 [01:10:28] TomH: More to the point, what's your question? [01:11:39] New patchset: Kaldari; "Reverting temporary change Iedb304f as promised" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52339 [01:12:24] 03(mod) Request for feature: RevisionMove - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21312 +comment (10grahamwp) [01:12:49] Trying to solve a versioning issue with software development [01:13:22] New patchset: Kaldari; "Reverting temporary change Iedb304f8 as promised" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52339 [01:13:38] The numerical is more relevant than the NS_VER associated with it? [01:13:48] hey yurik [01:14:12] TomH: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. [01:14:42] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Tweak ACUX to be compatible with CAPTCHA reload." [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46473 [01:14:50] New review: Kaldari; "Just a revert." [mediawiki/core] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52339 [01:15:04] New review: Mattflaschen; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/E3Experiments] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46473 [01:15:51] New review: Mattflaschen; "The htmlEqual change is pending review." [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48745 [01:15:57] New patchset: Bsitu; "Remove trailing comma from javascript object literal" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52342 [01:16:14] anyone who wants to help out with the weekly Tech Report in the Signpost, please do add stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-04/Technology_report [01:16:15] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Update for new guiders cookie settings." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51804 [01:16:31] extranamespace is NS_EXAM, 201 or whatever [01:16:51] TomH: Ah, now I get it. [01:16:56] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52339 [01:16:58] TomH: And you're upgrading, is that it? [01:16:59] is the NS_EXAM more important or the 201 [01:17:56] TomH: Well, if you change the number, the articles that are currently in namespace 201 will no longer be in NS_EXAM, they'll be in some other namespace (or no namespace), so that might not be ideal. [01:17:58] New review: Adamw; "Can you split this patch into DB and code changes? I vaguely remember that schema updates are done ..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48332 [01:18:15] New patchset: Reedy; "Few minor parameter type hints in documentation" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52343 [01:18:27] TomH: It's not a matter of what's more important, just....different things will happen depending on what you change, and how [01:19:04] keeping number, might have to change the NS_EXAM part [01:20:05] 03(mod) [beta project] Set up search (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34250 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [01:20:06] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [01:20:16] 03(mod) [beta project] Set up search (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34250 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [01:20:22] TomH: If you keep the number but change the name, you'll also want to change the string version of the namespace name, which should be somewhere in your LocalSettings.php file [01:20:40] TomH: Unless you're changing this namespace *in an extension*, in which case it might be slightly more complicated. [01:20:48] sumanah: ? [01:21:04] yurik: if you could help out with the weekly Tech Report in the Signpost, please do add stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-04/Technology_report [01:22:09] 03(NEW) API module wbremoveclaims fail to apply baserevid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45761 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [01:26:22] New patchset: Reedy; "Few more message parmater type hints" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52345 [01:26:50] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51804 [01:30:59] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52258 [01:31:37] New patchset: Krinkle; "Vector: Don't create an extra request for skins.vector module" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52347 [01:33:48] New patchset: Krinkle; "Vector: Don't create an extra request for skins.vector module" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52347 [01:35:13] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52264 [01:36:55] New review: Adamw; "(9 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralNotice] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48332 [01:39:53] 03(mod) Allow global (Wikimedia-wide) user CSS/JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:45:23] Thanks marktraceur [01:45:28] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Fix bug where .next was called on wrong object." [mediawiki/extensions/GuidedTour/guiders] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52349 [01:45:41] Change merged: Kaldari; [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52342 [01:46:19] I guess the real issue is moving a version along by namespace without breaking links [01:47:33] the NS_NAME , 201 is really insignifigant, with the named string for the prefix shown [01:48:14] We are on a 6mo-6mo-6mo short term support to a final LTS long term support [01:48:24] New patchset: Reedy; "Move OpenStackNova files to nova folder" [mediawiki/extensions/OpenStackManager] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52350 [01:48:43] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Only use the click event workaround when it's actually a click" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51809 [01:49:00] My thoughts were to NS_VER1, 201 [01:49:43] 03(mod) getExpandedArguments should not count toward the 10-second Lua execution limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45684 +comment (10vasilvv) [01:51:44] then NS_VER1 = 'Ver1' with aliases of Ver1.1, Ver1.2, Ver1.3 and Ver1.4 pointing at NS 201 [01:52:08] New review: Mattflaschen; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51809 [01:52:11] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Only use the click event workaround when it's actually a click" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51809 [01:52:53] 03(mod) Write docu/how-to for Windows with a GUI client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35467 +comment (10innocentkiller) [01:52:59] As the Versions move along from 1 to 1.1, 1.2 etc adjust NS_VER1 = 'Ver1.1' and so on till we reach 1.4 [01:53:04] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Remove generateId (unused) and use mw.Title for full title." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51824 [01:53:11] !exportgadgets [01:53:15] fail [01:53:26] Aliases show push all links, internal and external at the correct NS [01:53:41] Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything [01:55:02] New patchset: Bsitu; "Add email bundling function to Echo notification" [mediawiki/extensions/Echo] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52319 [01:58:37] Hello! I'm working on a wiki in which a whole namespace (File:) has been moved to another wiki. The namespace #6 is now empty on this wiki. Is there a way (script?) to update the "Special:Statistics" (number of pages, uploaded files, views total, ...) on this wiki? [01:59:12] (the other wiki is aimed to be a shared repository) [02:01:21] hello [02:01:27] any advice? [02:01:42] I need a little help concerning Bot programing software made for MediaWiki [02:02:10] there is a new project called Brickimedia that would like to adjust Auto-Wiki-Browser to be able to used on [02:02:15] the wiki [02:03:25] should I check out wikimedia-dev? [02:04:15] any Wikimedia employees [02:04:20] that can help? [02:04:45] I probably should check Development channel for my spefic issue that requires development [02:04:49] okay brb [02:07:37] 03(mod) Uploading a photo when not logged into commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45452 +comment (10jrobson) [02:11:02] okay [02:11:12] wikimedia developers was silent [02:12:03] 03(mod) Uploading a photo when not logged into commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45452 +comment (10jrobson) [02:12:31] so I return here to obtain help on behalf of the Brickimedia [02:12:39] Assocation. [02:12:44] You may know of Brickipedia [02:13:00] they are moving to their own domain and they are starting their own group. [02:13:32] I am going to run for International Coordination Director of Brickipedia and I am going to also help with transferring bots over to the site. [02:13:44] so I need help with Auto-Wiki-Browser [02:15:25] anybody here good with bots [02:15:40] link to the staff member I em@il on bots? [02:17:21] I will check Wikimedia [02:17:27] New patchset: Ori.livneh; "Add 'ResourceLoaderAfterRegisterModules' hook" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52352 [02:17:39] If you're struggling to use AWB, I'm not sure how you're going to fare with any more advanced bot [02:17:39] oh well [02:17:45] Waited a whole 6 minutes [02:26:54] New review: Reedy; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/28199 [02:30:08] New review: Krinkle; "To access a complete list one can use a Setup hook and access $out->getResourceLoader()->getModuleNa..." [mediawiki/core] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52352 [02:37:52] 03(mod) getExpandedArguments should not count toward the 10-second Lua execution limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45684 +comment (10mmantel) [02:38:23] 03(NEW) Wikibase-sitelinks-link-columnheading bad output on item creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45762 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [02:39:25] how do i fix the LocalSettings.php issue when i try to access my site? the wiki doesn't make a lot sense when it comes to this file... [02:39:43] 03(mod) Wikibase-sitelinks-link-columnheading bad output on item creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45762 (10Pustomytnyk) [02:41:00] junix659: That it's "not found"? [02:41:08] correct! [02:41:38] Is this a new wiki you're setting up, or does it already have at least one page? [02:41:54] new, i installed from RPM (CentOS 6.3) [02:43:30] 03(mod) getExpandedArguments should not count toward the 10-second Lua execution limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45684 (10Tim Starling) [02:44:49] PleaseStand, ? [02:45:21] As I said earlier [02:45:28] You need to run the installer [02:45:36] And we still don't recommend using os packaged versions of mediawiki [02:47:17] Reedy, i apologize, i tried to run the installer right now [02:47:26] it wouldn't do it, still giving me the same error [02:47:37] What did the installer say? [02:48:37] i went to IP/mediawiki/maintenance/install.php and it complained about the localsettings.php [02:49:27] What version of mediawiki is it supposed to be? [02:49:34] Quick question: is there a javascript constant (or mw.config.get variable) that will tell me if a current page is a redirect? [02:49:40] 1.19.3 [02:49:56] try /mw-config [02:50:02] http://hostname/mw-config [02:50:23] 03(NEW) Mobile.js doesn't load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45763 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [02:50:35] samethingsame things [02:50:41] In a web browser? [02:50:48] yes [02:52:18] New review: Ori.livneh; "> You mention conditional dependencies, how would that work? The module can't be" [mediawiki/core] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/52352 [02:55:39] 03(mod) Uploading a photo when not logged into commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45452 +comment (10jrobson) [02:57:21] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all wiki sets" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:00:36] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all wiki sets" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:00:56] Quick question: is there a javascript constant (or mw.config.get variable) that will tell me if a current page is a redirect? [03:01:07] * No_one_at_all despairs and slits wrists [03:01:37] No_one_at_all: dont think so, but you should check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Default_modules [03:02:04] I looked in there the other day and didn't find anything... [03:03:16] Yeah, there's nothing in there about redirects [03:03:46] New review: Reedy; "Yup, still broken:" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:05:12] No_one_at_all: mw.config.get( 'wgRedirectedFrom' ) ? [03:05:17] See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript [03:06:18] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all wiki sets" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:07:18] New review: Reedy; "Ok, so this doesn't error anymore..." [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:09:42] New patchset: Mattflaschen; "Internationalize title text parsing and use everywhere." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51830 [03:10:00] PleaseStand: thank you, but that constant tells me the redirect that an article was redirected from [03:10:10] PleaseStand: not whether or not the current page *is* a redirect. [03:10:54] New review: Mattflaschen; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51830 [03:11:46] PleaseStand: however, thanks for the link to the javascript interface manual page [03:11:48] Just use === null to check the return value [03:11:51] New review: Mattflaschen; "I took your suggestion to factor it out, fixed the code (before it *only* worked if it was a redlink..." [mediawiki/extensions/GettingStarted] (feature/gettingstartedv2) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51830 [03:12:16] For ?redirect=no URLs, try $( '.redirectMsg' ).length [03:12:40] but that has to wait until $( document ).ready [03:12:47] I was hoping there was a built-in indicator. [03:13:10] and mw.config.get( "wgRedirectedFrom" ) returns null when a page *is* a redirect. [03:15:34] New review: Reedy; "Looks to work fine now" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:15:45] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23240 [03:17:39] No_one_at_all: Are you writing a gadget or user JS? [03:17:46] PleaseStand: gadget [03:19:25] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global user" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23177 [03:20:00] If I'm not mistaken, all gadget and user JS is currently loaded at the end of the page, so you shouldn't need to put that inside $( document ).ready(). [03:20:05] 03(mod) CentralAuth does not always log you into other projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45578 +comment (10Jon) [03:21:33] New patchset: Reedy; "(bug 16860) Add api for getting all global user" [mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23177 [03:22:10] 03(mod) Add support for URLs to mw.loader.using or callback to mw.loader.load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25962 (10Krinkle) [03:22:28] 03(mod) Sometimes mw.loader.load do not load anything and mw.loader.using do not call any of the ready/error callbacks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41453 +comment (10krinklemail) [03:25:10] 03(mod) ResourceLoader should not load CSS again if it was already included with only=styles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29693 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Krinkle) [03:25:22] PleaseStand: Do *not* rely on the load order or load position. [03:25:38] No_one_at_all: ^ [03:25:52] so do use document-ready if the code needs the document to be ready [03:26:09] PleaseStand: It currently is, but that already changed once, it can change again. [03:26:37] Krinkle: So are we looking at adding another config variable then? [03:26:42] 03(mod) RL could use more wfdebug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44018 normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle) [03:26:42] no [03:26:50] We're looking at improving load performance [03:27:03] e.g. by loading it asynchronously somewhere half-way document-ready [03:27:17] not blocking head, not waiting till the bottom either. [03:27:35] Krinkle: You mean putting