[00:19:57] 03(NEW) Creating new section may overwrite edit to another section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47438 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [00:23:01] 03(mod) SpecialListFiles should show all uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30607 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:24:56] stupid release notes [00:34:57] 03(NEW) Some student articles are not linked on a course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47439 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; () [00:35:03] 03(mod) Some student articles are not linked on a course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47439 (10Sage Ross) [00:42:17] odder: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/60089 [00:47:20] * bawolff happy he got a first attempt at special:listfiles for old versions today. that was my goal [00:48:24] 03(mod) SpecialListFiles should show all uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30607 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:50:10] 03(NEW) Allow "advanced users" the possibility to edit the whole description before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47440 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [01:34:02] hey all. my site's been fine for several weeks. then all of a sudden today, i started getting this error in the log [01:34:15] PHP Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /wiki/includes/diff/DairikiDiff.php(384) : assert code on line 1 [01:34:22] Anyone ever seen this before? [01:34:55] It's occurring on my atom feed [01:35:18] I didn't find anything on bugzilla [01:35:43] I'm hitting a weird issue on toro, one of E3's Labs MW instances. [01:36:07] There is a test page called Backtesting. [01:36:19] As shown by http://toro.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=Backtesting [01:36:42] But when you actually request the page, it's a completely empty 200. [01:36:52] My thought is maybe a database anomaly. [01:36:58] Any idea of a query or script I could run? [01:39:26] Duke33, I don't know the root cause (I'm not familiar with that part of core), and you should probably file a bug. [01:39:39] However, you could try increasing max_execution_time to 60 or something as a workaround: http://www.php.net/manual/en/info.configuration.php#ini.max-execution-time [01:39:58] That will maybe give you an idea of whether it's taking an extremely long time (infinite loop?) or just a little bit over the limit. [01:40:17] well, what's interesting, is that I did set a few other configuration items for the feeds. for one of them, i set the number of items to "1", and it still timed out [01:40:21] so, that's odd. [01:40:41] It's probably a bug, though. [01:40:46] 30 seconds is a *long* time by web standards. [01:42:10] ok [01:42:23] i did a search, and did find a few other sites on which it was happening [01:42:33] so, it might be a legit issue [01:44:35] PHP updates? Server more loaded? More traffic? Bigger pages? [01:45:08] What version of MediaWiki? [01:45:48] superm401: Any debugging code left in somewhere with a die that that page hits or similar? [01:46:55] Reedy, I don't think so. I did a grep for wgDebugDieBacktrace, which is what I use when I want that. [01:48:14] Something seemingly specific to that wiki. WFM locally and on enwiki [01:48:41] Commenting out the whole thing works [01:48:50] Reedy, yeah, I'll keep digging. Thanks. [01:49:06] Commenting out what? [01:49:09] LocalSettings? [01:49:13] The article text [01:49:22] It's something with those multiple issues templates [01:49:42] Reedy, cool, thanks. [01:53:31] hmmm...i seem to have found my problem. i have a recent change that was large. when i diff that page, it takes a long time [01:54:31] sounds pretty feasible [01:54:38] Increase the execution time! ;) [01:58:03] yeah, i could. i'll try that [02:14:22] This likely isn't the best place to ask, but I'm unsure of where else may be suitable. I'm just looking for someone to design me a Monobook skin. [02:23:24] Anyone? [02:25:15] Hello. [02:25:16] I'm here. [02:25:29] [12:14] This likely isn't the best place to ask, but I'm unsure of where else may be suitable. I'm just looking for someone to design me a Monobook skin. [02:25:49] I got mispinged today, heh. [02:25:52] Mistaken for sumanah. [02:25:56] Kyzz: I forgive you. [02:25:56] Of course, I could always join #CSS, but most there probably wouldn't know about MediaWiki. [02:26:03] Monobook is a skin. [02:26:06] It's already designed. [02:26:12] It was finished sometime in 2004, I think. :-) [02:26:27] The evolution of Monobook is/was Vector. [02:26:33] Successor to, rather. [02:26:35] I mean, to customize it. [02:26:42] Using CSS, that is. [02:26:56] Perhaps I didn't word it correctly the first time. [02:27:06] Customize it how? [02:27:08] !css [02:27:08] To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Vector.css is for the Vector skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [02:27:20] So you'd actually want to edit "MediaWiki:Monobook.css", I imagine. [02:27:24] Just do that. :-) [02:27:26] It's quick and cheap. [02:28:25] What I'm looking for is someone to actually customize it for me, someone who's experienced in it. I've tried myself, but it's never turned out too great. [02:28:33] And I'd really like another's perspective on it, anyway. [02:30:21] I imagine there are MediaWiki consultants. [02:30:37] Or you can try mediawiki-l (the mailing list). [02:31:06] I'm not sure if you want a designer or a coder or both. [02:31:10] You should make that clear. :-) [02:32:15] I apologise. I'm just looking for someone who's skilled in customizing Monobook, and can help me with doing so for a wiki. [02:32:31] Susan: Sorry! I probably didn't hit tab :( [02:33:50] No worries. [02:34:03] Will-k: Got it. The mailing list is probably your best bet. [02:34:10] Or googling around for someone. [02:34:12] Cool, thanks. [02:40:52] i have two separate questions i can seem to find the answers for. first one is {{DISPLAYTITLE}}. the wiki i'm on has $wgRestrictDisplayTitle set to true and it does work, but for some reason, i can't get it to work on subpages. [02:41:38] second question: is there a function or something that allows me to search for a word, like finding a word in {{ARTICLENAME}}? [02:42:28] oops, i meant pagename. i was thinking of articlepagename. [02:48:35] Kanegasi: Link to display title not working as expected? [02:48:50] For the second question, I'm not sure why you mean by "finding a word in {{ARTICLENAME}}". [02:48:53] why --> what [02:51:05] first answer: it works on base pages, but i cant seem to change letter case on subpages. second answer: {{#ifeq}} compares things, but im looking for something like #isin, #search, etc [02:57:02] You want Scribunto/Lua. [02:57:11] Though I'm not sure how easy it is to install. [02:57:22] It's a full programming language built in. [03:00:19] 03(NEW) App suggests categories that do not exist, adds them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47441 normal; Commons App: Android; () [03:00:54] Kanegasi: As I recall, there's a rule that says it has to be [[linkable]]. [03:01:09] So the first letter can be case insensitive in some contexts. [03:01:16] But otherwise it doesn't work in restricted mode. [03:01:17] I think. [03:02:54] oh, i'm only an admin, i don't have access to the server. i do believe we are getting lua here in the next few months though when we update. we're still on 1.18.6. [03:03:53] for the display title, that makes sense. subpages seem to be immune to normalization [03:04:02] Right. [03:04:18] So you change IPod --> iPod, but not IPod --> IPOD. [03:04:19] I guess. [03:04:30] You can probably use inline CSS... [03:04:35] ahh [03:05:31] Hmmm, seems not. [03:06:01] Oh, no. There we go. [03:06:18] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page/Subpage [03:08:11] oh that's neat. did exactly what i wanted [03:08:20] code magic [03:14:31] oh god, why did i look through your userpage history? i hate my curiosity [03:20:25] Haha [03:20:35] I liked the animated GIF. [03:20:43] There's a whole collection on Commons. :-) [03:23:05] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:2010s_male_masturbation_(animated) [03:27:40] hail, friends! i have some questions. is there a "lite" version of mediawiki available for a small local installation? [03:27:57] notawaffle, what lite version mean? [03:28:13] mediawiki have only one version [03:28:32] well, i have access to a tiny web server - my quota is 200mb - and mediawiki is almost 70mb unpacked [03:28:44] oh, ok [03:28:52] just checking, thanks. [03:29:04] do you know what plugins are being used by the main wikipedia to do the ebook creation? [03:29:07] you can reduce size by removing i18n file [03:29:16] Susan: i ain't clicking that lmao [03:30:18] ndroftheline, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Book page? [03:30:40] yes, exactly [03:30:56] i would like to put that on my own wikimedia installation [03:30:57] here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [03:32:22] devunt: excellent, thank you! [03:34:31] your welcome [03:36:32] huh. this is strange. the Special:Book page lists pdf, odt, zim, epub as download options but the Extension:Collection page lists pdf, odf, xml, and zim [03:37:03] i want epub, lol [03:37:23] oh, later it says that the file formats are configurable...huh. i'll hvae to ask on #pediapress, maybe they can help [03:51:33] I'm still wondering why I even clicked on Susan's link >.< [04:09:47] hi does anyone know where to modify the style of confirm edit extension? [04:15:17] questy captcha for example I don't have a default white background and I'm looking for ideas on how I could change it [04:16:57] Questy captcha? [04:18:16] [04:19:24] its an extension [04:19:39] installed be default I believe in 1.20 [04:19:47] Dibbley: try asking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:QuestyCaptcha [04:20:08] I'm pretty sure the extension maintainer watches that page [04:23:23] Its sort of a generic question really it puts a bit of a page into the create account page which I have changed the CSS for. It would apply to all exntensions that do the same thing [04:44:24] 03(mod) Disabling MoodBar should persist as a user preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37947 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [04:57:28] [04:20:08] I'm pretty sure the extension maintainer watches that page <-- Nope! [04:57:36] 03(NEW) tag added when combining itallics and English possessive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47442 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [04:57:40] >.< [04:57:55] Well, I watch it, but I don't get emails for it [04:57:56] 03(mod) tag added when combining itallics and English possessive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47442 normal->trivial (10Quim Gil) [04:57:59] so I never see it [04:58:32] 03(mod) tag added when combining itallics and English possessive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47442 (10Quim Gil) [04:59:01] Dibbley, meet Emufarmers. [04:59:10] Yes, hello. [05:01:59] Dibbley: which part did you want to change the color of? [07:22:42] i am new to coding and facing problem with MobileFrontend so can i post my issue in this chat ? else sorry i am just 15 years old [07:23:08] Mikul_: Is it a Mediawiki issue? [07:23:10] yes, but for larger segements of code, i recommend using a pastebin site [07:23:36] @tale yes [07:23:47] 03(NEW) Local dates comparsion seems to be broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47443 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [07:24:03] Fatal error: Call to undefined method OutputPage::getProperty() in G:\wamp\www\mediawiki\extensions\MobileFrontend\includes\skins\SkinMobile.php on line 202 [07:25:47] I have configured mediawiki and installed mobilefront extension in WAMP environment [07:25:58] I got "mobile view" link in footer [07:26:10] but its giving error "Fatal error: Call to undefined method OutputPage::getProperty() in G:\wamp\www\mediawiki\extensions\MobileFrontend\includes\skins\SkinMobile.php on line 202" [07:26:16] kindly help what to do [07:27:17] intresting, two people with matching issues within minutes... Is this apart of a class project or something? [07:27:34] What version of mediawiki and MF are you running Mikul_ and vijay_? [07:27:50] Mikul is my friend, he introduced me to this chat group [07:27:52] Thanks to mikul [07:28:02] I am having latest install of mediawiki 1.20 [07:28:10] we both are working in same project sorry for the duplicate issue [07:28:35] MF version is MobileFrontend-master-293c572 [07:28:58] mobilefrontend master isnt compatible with 1.20 [07:29:03] you should use the REL1_20 branch [07:30:11] ok so which mediawiki verison should I use? [07:30:45] 1.20.x is fine [07:31:35] media wiki 1.20.3 and MobileFrontend-master-293c572 are both of this compitable ? [07:33:11] no, MediaWiki 1.20.X and the MobileFrontend REL1_20 branch are compataible [07:34:54] okay, let me try that in localhost [07:36:57] Thank you guys, [07:37:00] That worked :) [07:37:34] but again problem aries [07:37:45] only got [07:38:19] do I need to install mobileSKin ? [07:38:38] have you setup mobilefrontend and your mainpage? [07:39:35] yes setup mobilefrontend [07:39:54] but when I am viewing mobile site, and clicking on any link, it redirect me back to original desktop site [07:42:17] 03(mod) Wikipedia and other site logos pixelated, blurry on high-resolution screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35337 +comment (10liangent) [07:48:26] 03(NEW) Use transparent images in Score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47444 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Score; () [07:50:06] have anybody tried mediawiki + mobile front? [08:00:10] can anybody suggest me some link how to setup mobile skin ? [08:00:22] using mobilefront in mediawiki? [08:01:49] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage [08:01:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend#Configuration_settings [08:03:05] 03(mod) User names always begin with an uppercase letter, even if not registered as such. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46974 +comment (10db) [08:08:02] 03(mod) Display warning when closing references tag is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46986 +comment (10db) [08:08:20] 03(mod) Load current protection reason on action=unprotect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46987 +comment (10db) [08:17:16] 03(mod) Exceptions are not internationalizable? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47209 +comment (10db) [08:18:33] 03(mod) Use transparent images in Score - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47444 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [08:19:07] 03(mod) importDump should emit a helpful message if some ContentHandler is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47270 +comment (10db) [09:43:56] 03(NEW) Carriage return's removed not after page creation, but after subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47445 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [09:52:10] 03(mod) Carriage return's removed not after page creation, but after subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47445 +comment (10Al Johnson) [10:05:24] 03(mod) Carriage return's removed not after page creation, but after subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47445 +comment (10Al Johnson) [10:39:27] How can I get XML dictionary code from all latin entry of dictionary in italian, latin and french wiktionary? [10:53:58] galex-713: http://it.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Export/latin http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Export/latin [10:54:12] thx [10:54:25] do we have a "latin" language dictionary? [10:54:31] yes [10:55:30] I don't know the language code for lating, so if you know it you may guess the changes you need to do in the URLs provided ;) [10:55:57] la ? [10:56:59] I don’t get… [10:57:09] it does seem so. But it doesn't contain a entry for "latin" [10:57:17] Ok… [10:57:56] So at least how to get an XML-ized version of wiktionary, without wikicode, but something like a dictionary description XML language [11:01:13] I would like an XML document containing words, declinations, etymology potentially, definition, pronunciation etc. in a regular easy parsable XML dialect… [11:01:25] 03(mod) Display warning when closing references tag is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46986 +comment (10mwander) [11:01:56] But I don’t know wiktionary code, I don’t know how to parse it, and I don’t know how to isolate latin words… [11:03:41] 03(NEW) [TUX] the text in the tooltip of a group selector row may be inappropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47446 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [11:04:05] 03(mod) [TUX] the text in the tooltip of a group selector row may be inappropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47446 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [11:08:36] galex-713: that cannot be achieved right now, wiki pages are just a bunch of code and templates [11:09:10] So… how could I get a such dictionary? [11:10:09] 03(NEW) [TUX] tux-statsbar-info overlaps with the bottom border of the selector row - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47447 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [11:10:35] 03(mod) [TUX] tux-statsbar-info overlaps with the bottom border of the selector row - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47447 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [11:10:43] Hi everyone� is there a function in mediawiki to make a user wait for the authorization of a sysop before starting using the wiki as a logged user? e.g. I create an account, a message appears and tells me to wait for an admin to authorize my request, I (sysop) accept the request and the user starts using the wiki [11:12:07] RickyB98: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount [11:12:44] Vulpix: Thank you! [11:13:13] galex-713: wiktionary is sadly not that structured. you'll have to extract it out yourself [11:13:50] Isn’t any effort to try to achieve a such structuration? [11:14:05] I'm not aware of any, but Amgine_ is the person to ask :) [11:15:00] Can I post an exported filter of the abusefilter to figure out what's the problem with it? [11:18:05] {"row":{"af_id":"7","af_pattern":"action == \"createaccount\"","af_user":"1","af_user_text":"Riccardo Bello","af_timestamp":"20130420105412","af_enabled":"1","af_comments":"","af_public_comments":"Anti-spam filter 1","af_hidden":"1","af_hit_count":"0","af_throttled":"0","af_deleted":"0","af_actions":"throttle,disallow,tag","af_global":"0","af_group":"default"},"actions":{"disallow":{"action":"disallow","parameters [11:18:06] ":[""]},"tag":{"action":"tag","parameters":["ACC"]},"throttle":{"action":"throttle","parameters":["7","1,1209600","ip"]}}} [11:18:45] it should block account creation to a user who created one in less than 14 days [11:20:12] 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196 +comment (10Church of emacs) [11:20:56] RickyB98: you can't handle createaccount limits with abusefilter AFAIK [11:21:14] why? [11:22:49] because, ehhh... it doesn't support it [11:23:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules_format here it says that an action could be "create account" [11:23:23] "createaccount"* [11:26:00] you can filter create account by name [11:26:24] ??? [11:26:26] but the system won't tell you if it's the same user that created an account a day ago [11:27:39] neither filtering by ip? [11:28:08] neither [11:29:34] how do i update an extension? (so many questions today eh!) [11:31:08] RickyB98: download the latest version (or the version that fits your MediaWiki version, replace the old files with the new ones (check if there are configuration settings that you need to tweak) and run update.php if the extension stores info in the database [11:32:16] Amgine_, Is there some effort to make wiktionary more structured so that it can be easily parsed and used like with XDXF or DicML for hyphenation, spellcheck, pronunciation etc.? [11:32:45] maybe with Wikidata? [11:33:03] 03(mod) Display warning when closing references tag is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46986 +comment (10db) [11:33:03] 03(mod) add message when references is not closed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26145 +comment (10db) [11:33:30] thx [11:37:27] I don’t know wikidata… [11:44:57] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Implement support for enhanced minification (e.g. support UglifyJS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47437 +comment (10db) [11:47:14] 03(mod) Allow "advanced users" the possibility to edit the whole description before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47440 +design; +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [11:51:14] 03(NEW) Add version to Score hashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47448 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Score; () [11:52:55] 03(mod) InstantCommons doesn't respect $wgHTTPProxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42196 +patch-need-review (10Church of emacs) [12:07:08] 03(mod) last search results page contains next page link if result count is multiple of limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19938 +comment (10Gaurav Chawla) [12:26:27] 03(mod) Make it clearer for translators how they can translate a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47410 +comment (10Nemo) [12:26:28] 03(mod) Edit-tab/link is confusing on translation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35946 +comment (10Nemo) [12:29:06] 03(mod) Edit-tab/link is confusing on translation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35946 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [12:39:59] 03(NEW) {{#special:}} parser function should not return textual error message for unknown special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47449 minor; MediaWiki: Parser; () [12:41:02] 03(mod) Use user preference date for function getNotifications() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47211 +comment (10aklapper) [12:45:04] I am thinking about moving the mediawiki installation from one site to another. do i have to doi anything besides copy the files and databases from one server to another? [12:45:52] 03(mod) {{#special:}} parser function should not return textual error message for unknown special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47449 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:47:06] pokeswap: that should be enough, apart from telling your editors the new URL in case it would change :) [12:47:19] thx [12:48:11] I have to move it, because i host te wiki with some wordpres sites, and wordpress viruses got on all of those sites, so all of the sites are suspended, even though my site had nothing on it. [12:48:27] on the new server, i need mysql, php5, apache... what else? [12:51:01] 03(NEW) No proper HTML escaping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47450 major; Monuments database: API; () [12:54:08] !requirements [12:54:08] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !php, [12:54:34] !install [12:54:34] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [12:54:55] well, read the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_requirements [13:03:11] with db access, how would i copy the mysql dump from the old mediawiki into the new mysql mediawiki [13:03:29] i can only access the db through ssh [13:05:19] i already mysql -u root -p [13:05:25] 03(NEW) Bug 45638 not fixed yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47451 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [13:05:37] pokeswap: read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Restoring_a_wiki_from_backup [13:09:00] 03(mod) Allow "advanced users" the possibility to edit the whole description before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47440 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:11:51] 03(mod) Jenkins merged a faulty change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46723 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:13:10] "create a new MySQL database and grant your user account permissions on the database. SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE and DELETE permissions should suffice." how? (mdwdskDpuW9 is username) [13:13:46] 03(mod) lucene-search-2 uses too much memory on labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46459 +comment (10hashar) [13:14:26] pokeswap: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user/ [13:15:10] 03(mod) upload python-voluptuous package to debian.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46375 +comment (10hashar) [13:15:16] 03(mod) upload python-statsd package to debian.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47285 +comment (10hashar) [13:15:37] but i do not have the db yet--that is in the dump i need to import [13:15:51] 03(mod) [upstream] zuul should have a template system to define projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44954 +upstream; summary (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:17:34] pokeswap: depending on the options you give to mysqldump, it may generate the required "create database" statements or not [13:17:51] thx [13:18:04] 03(NEW) Edit source tab doesn't become 'active' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47452 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; () [13:18:06] apparently, the --databases= option will generate them [13:19:19] otherwise, just install on the new server with the web installer so it will create the database and table structure for you, and then import the dump [13:22:01] how do i import a mysqldump.sql file into sql [13:22:44] isn't explained on the restoring a wiki from backup article? [13:23:04] oh, yes, it is [13:23:15] 03(NEW) VE tab missing oldid when using edit source on an oldid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47453 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; () [13:25:30] it says there with using a.txt, but i have the dump in a .sql [13:26:25] the file extension doesn't matter [13:26:34] (and a csv) how do i do it with a .sql/.csv [13:26:45] but I'm changing that on the manual to prevent confusion [13:27:13] 03(mod) Bug 45638 not fixed yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47451 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:27:13] 03(mod) Add patrolled rights and change wgRemoveGroups right for autopatrolled group in it.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45638 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:27:41] 03(mod) Add patrolled rights and change wgRemoveGroups right for autopatrolled group in it.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45638 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [13:32:22] 03(mod) Sandbox gadget not at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47205 summary (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:33:21] 03(mod) [Regression] VisualEditor: Link tool produces "undefined" in normal use - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47413 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:39:01] 03(mod) [[Wikipedia]] auto-linking in Bugzilla does not work for non-ascii characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46837 +comment (10matma.rex) [13:41:08] 03(NEW) The old form 03(NEW) Creating mailing list for wikidatawiki bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47455 enhancement; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; () [13:47:56] I did some Usability-Testing regarding wikidata tha last week and 2 Participants were confused about the Universal Language Selector. [13:49:21] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47455 summary (10eikes) [13:49:33] 03(mod) [[Wikipedia]] auto-linking in Bugzilla does not work for non-ascii characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46837 +comment (10matma.rex) [13:49:58] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47455 (10Thehelpfulone) [13:50:38] 03(mod) The old form I have to agree, the ULS is confusing :S [13:53:48] 03(mod) Allow "advanced users" the possibility to edit the whole description before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47440 +comment (10nischayn22) [13:53:59] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47455 +comment (10Philippe Beaudette) [13:54:13] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki bureaucrats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47455 (10Philippe Beaudette) [13:58:16] one of them thougt this little keybaord-icon has something to do with the windows-pc I used for the test [13:58:27] 03(mod) Use user preference date for function getNotifications() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47211 +comment (10nischayn22) [14:00:05] a click on the icon confused them even more [14:00:32] yes. A feature that doesn't explain what it does is confusing [14:00:41] 03(mod) Change user rights for autoconfirmed/autopatrolled on itwikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45638 summary (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [14:00:43] I still don't know what it does, even [14:00:50] hehe [14:01:21] 03(mod) [upstream] Jenkins is slow to start - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47120 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:01:22] I just wanted to share this, becaus I'm reviewing the recodings right now [14:03:20] @notify andre__ [14:03:20] I will notify you, when I see andre__ around here [14:03:28] 03(mod) Change user rights for autoconfirmed/autopatrolled on itwikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45638 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:03:32] 03(mod) Bug 45638 not fixed yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47451 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:12:57] is it possible to detect if a user is running a bot on his normal account? [14:13:33] if he does a lot of edits in short time, that could be a reason to think that [14:14:11] but he also could use a gadget [14:14:44] nope, not really [14:15:07] not possible to detect or not possible to make a lot of edits with a gadget? [14:15:19] not possible to detect [14:15:23] if you are the sysadmin of the wiki, and you really want to, you could probably search through the logs, see what the user-agent of his requests is, etc [14:15:43] the checkuser functionality might also help here [14:15:48] but in general it's not possible to see what is being used to edit [14:15:58] !e CheckUser [14:15:58] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser [14:16:32] I thougt it is possible to see if an edit was made with the interface or directly with the api [14:17:04] hm, i don't think that's stored anywhere [14:17:10] ok [14:17:14] and the bots don't necessarily have to use the API anyway [14:17:19] is the useragent in the complete database dump? [14:17:20] (although they usually do) [14:17:43] neither the useragent not the IP address is saved anywhere by vanilla MediaWiki [14:17:51] well, except the IP for anonymous users, of course [14:17:59] i tink E:CheckUser saves them both [14:18:03] think* [14:19:15] but this can't be found in the database-dumps? [14:19:39] you mean for wikimedia wikis? no, it's backed up somewhere, but the data is confidential [14:20:29] actually, it might not even be backed up, as it's only kept for I think half a year [14:20:36] or even shorter [14:21:25] * lbenedix1 fears the secret bot-army that is ruling the wikipedias [14:21:26] even the User-Agent may be spoofed [14:21:56] galex-713: Each language of wiktionary has developed its own structures. There is *interest* in homogenizing the structures across languages, but there is little *activity* toward doing so. [14:22:21] Oh :/ [14:22:31] I ask because of this incident: A user of wikidata got blocked because he did too many edits in short time http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/F705i [14:22:41] Galex-713: On the other hand, there is some 3rd party efforts to extract structured data, such as wikicot, dbpedia wiktionary. [14:23:21] lbenedix1: if you feer someone is editing outside the policy and guidelines, take it to the specific wikis Administrators noticeboard, #mediawiki is not the place for it [14:23:28] ah :) good [14:23:28] lbenedix1: huh, why would anyone bother with editing speed at wikidata? [14:23:40] but yeah, this isn't really the right place for it [14:23:49] from a technical standpoint, it's hard to guess, and impossible to be sure [14:24:34] MatmaRex: apparently its quiet easy with all their JS tools [14:24:46] it's quite easy with JS tools anywhere [14:24:54] Galex-713: there is a proposed project to create a DICT-style api, in part to help YuviPanda's work. Would you be interested in being part of such an effort? [14:24:56] i myself once almost wrote a JS-based bot framework [14:25:04] until i realized it's a pretty dumb idea ;) [14:25:16] I just wanted to know if it is possible to detect... that would be a mediawiki-feature, so I ask in #mediawiki [14:25:22] thanks for your fast answers [14:25:45] lbenedix1: you could ask wikidata chekcusers to check that [14:25:58] but i'm unsure if that would be enough of a reason to checkuser him [14:26:02] and wikidata can break if too many people edit too fast :p [14:26:06] as there is a pretty strict privacy policy on it [14:27:55] I know, they had a delay of 2 days between editing and showing the edit on wikipedia a week ago... [14:30:54] Hi, I would like to apply for the OPW programme and I am interested to contribute to the jQuery.ime [14:31:14] Sounds great, Viktorija! [14:33:09] regarding checkuser: in dewiki the data is stored for 90days: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Checkuser#cite_note-culogzeitraum-1 [14:34:16] hello! Can anybody help me with MediaWiki installation?... have some issue and cant find answer :( [14:34:32] Ingtar: what is the problem? [14:35:15] I exchanged mails with santhosh about the mentoring and he told me to follow the OPW anouncements for news on this [14:36:13] I would like to start with my first contribution and I would like to ask for some guidelines [14:37:12] lbenedix1: i download MW 1.20.3, install mysqld, nginx and php-fpm. i can see preinstallation page (LocalSettings.php not found. Please set up the wiki first.) but when i go ext page (click set up the wiki link) my web-server cant find mw-config/index.php. I check this file in folder, but cant curl in directli from server. [14:37:33] in nginx log i got 500 error [14:38:34] if i place some test php file in this folder and try to access it wia web - it work fine. [14:38:58] something realy strange ^) [14:40:18] sorry, I cant really help you with nginx-configuration [14:40:35] I never set up mediawiki on something else than apache [14:41:22] well, i lova apach too, but in my organisation envirement nginx is only solution)) [14:44:27] Ingtar: you should see if the error log has details about the error message [14:44:35] !debug [14:44:35] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [14:55:09] 03(NEW) VE should not become active on userpage .js and .css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47456 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation and integration; () [14:55:54] Amigne_, hi I would like to ask you if you know something about who will be the mentor for jQuery.ime? [14:59:47]