[00:02:59] 03(mod) "Create your account" for the Blue button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47700 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:05:00] 03(mod) Excess white space between the bottom of the captcha image and refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47699 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:06:26] 03(mod) Suggested category is not actually added to uploaded image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47758 +comment (10tfinc) [00:07:44] 03(mod) Use gender neutral icons on sign up and login pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47696 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:10:21] night all [00:13:28] 03(mod) Echo notifications menu looks rather silly in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47652 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:16:10] 03(NEW) VisualEditor needs many time to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47760 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [00:16:14] yurik: hey [00:17:35] 03(NEW) On meta and mediawiki, search for namespace + colon gives search backend error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47761 normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; () [00:20:38] 03(NEW) Signing with an indentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47762 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PageTriage; () [00:21:28] 03(mod) Open username policy in tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47530 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:24:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 summary (10Andre Klapper) [00:25:28] 03(mod) Switch "Can't see the image? Request an account" to "Can't see the image? Load a new one" for first view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47690 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:26:47] 03(mod) Switch "Can't see the image? Request an account" to "Can't see the image? Load a new one" for first view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47690 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:27:17] 03(mod) Improve placement of refresh button and text for FancyCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47713 (10spage) [00:29:14] 03(mod) User login and signup forms don't look great in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47698 +comment (10swalling) [00:29:20] 03(mod) Switch "Can't see the image? Request an account" to "Can't see the image? Load a new one" for first view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47690 (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:29:23] 03(mod) CAPTCHA doesn't work for blind people - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4845 (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:31:50] 03(mod) Improve placement of refresh button and text for FancyCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47713 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:34:00] 03(mod) Add a secondary confirmation email field when I check "Use a temporary random password and send it to the email address specified below" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47697 +comment (10swalling) [00:37:21] 03(mod) Add a secondary confirmation email field when I check "Use a temporary random password and send it to the email address specified below" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47697 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [00:38:26] 03(mod) Add a secondary confirmation email field when I check "Use a temporary random password and send it to the email address specified below" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47697 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:38:46] 03(mod) "Donate Image" button shows on Windows Phone 8 (mobile IE 10), but does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47374 +comment (10mgrover) [00:40:58] 03(mod) Large welcome message shouldn't display on every Main page visit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46442 +comment (10mgrover) [00:41:43] 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should validate against W3C in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31876 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [00:42:39] 03(mod) Display the categories on the mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [00:50:11] 03(mod) Use gender neutral icons on sign up and login pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47696 +comment (10vbamba) [00:59:09] 03(mod) Captcha form should be set off visually on edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9406 (10spage) [01:03:23] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Sidebar doesn't get applied to mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30902 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [01:04:09] 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [01:07:54] 03(mod) Signing with an indentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47762 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [01:14:34] Hey y'all. How often do category listings update? Mine's been stagnant for 5 days [01:26:53] 03(NEW) reduce width of FancyCaptcha input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47763 minor; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); () [01:28:21] 03(mod) reduce width of FancyCaptcha input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47763 (10spage) [01:28:21] 03(mod) reduce width of FancyCaptcha input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47763 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:53:18] 03(mod) Missing check box in Echo preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47743 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:10:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When the diff result is null (no changes), don't show a confusing blank diff but instead a message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43754 (10James Forrester) [02:10:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Content in an LTR wiki is displayed RTL in CE block if the interface language is RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33175 (10James Forrester) [02:10:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-save diff for new pages doesn't alter when aborted and restarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44446 (10James Forrester) [02:10:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Implement remaining wrap(each) methods in SurfaceFragment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45445 +comment (10jforrester) [02:13:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor on Opera 12: clicking selection arrow shows, then hides popup bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37858 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:26:00] 03(NEW) visior statistics problem !!! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47764 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [02:30:39] 03(NEW) Visior Statistics problem !!! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47765 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; () [02:40:52] 03(mod) Adapt "contributors" benefit for different values of $wgActiveUserDays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47753 (10spage) [02:41:05] 03(mod) Adapt "contributors" benefit for different values of $wgActiveUserDays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47753 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:42:13] 03(NEW) Toolbar tooltip text throbs when un-floated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47766 trivial; VisualEditor: General; () [02:47:21] 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:56:16] ori-l, still there? [03:00:53] 03(mod) "Login error" header is incorrect if you haven't created an account yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47691 (10spage) [03:16:41] 03(mod) Adapt "contributors" benefit for different values of $wgActiveUserDays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47753 +comment (10mflaschen) [03:36:45] hello [03:45:37] 03(mod) Intermittent performance issues with categorization screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47611 +comment (10qiyue2001) [04:04:41] Hello I am currently trying to setup mediawiki vagrant on mac osx 10.8.3.. when typing vagrant up it eventually exits with http://pastebin.com/ccQwaLuH after trying the instructions on the wiki vagrant provision and vagrant reload exit with the same error. What should i do? [04:28:17] 03(mod) "Create your account" for the Blue button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47700 (10spage) [04:36:59] 03(mod) ProofreadPage extension needs to be refactored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46616 +comment (10qgil) [04:53:44] 03(mod) "reason" field of create account form should have help text explaining it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31888 (10spage) [05:01:33] 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:01:38] 03(mod) "reason" field of create account form should have help text explaining it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31888 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:01:45] 03(mod) "Create your account" for the Blue button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47700 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:24:11] Hey i installed vagrant MW on mac 10.8 and can access it using vagrant ssh... but when i go to the localhost link to see the main page its not found [05:30:16] marktraceur: ping! [05:56:00] 03(mod) Out of memory on High number of categories mediawikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46718 +comment (10Jean Roussie) [06:18:51] Kyzz: Hey! [06:33:01] 03(mod) Account creation interface doesn't handle resolutions between 980 and 1175px properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44333 (10spage) [06:44:45] 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585 +comment (10rkaldari) [07:06:23] 03(NEW) Prompt user to submit logs of failed provisioning attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47767 normal; Tools: Vagrant; () [07:13:33] 03(mod) Prompt user to submit logs of failed provisioning attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47767 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:18:16] 03(NEW) [VisualEditor] CSS and JS pages should only be editable using the source editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47768 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [07:29:06] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47749 +comment (10paul.kaganer) [07:42:57] 03(mod) File upload: preview button sporadically missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47594 +comment (10rainerrillke) [07:47:22] 03(mod) override system notification icons for wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47662 (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:47:22] 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585 (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:56:38] 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585 +comment (10mflaschen) [08:27:10] 03(mod) Unable to use {{int}} inside {{for template}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47736 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:49:04] 03(NEW) inline tags in Chinese context get duplicated when the line is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47769 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [09:01:25] Hallo. [09:02:04] Is there a known recent problem with jquery.suggestions? [09:02:14] There's a gadget in the Hebrew Wikipedia that uses it and it's broken. [09:02:22] Since today, or maybe yesterday. [09:02:39] aharoni: perhaps the same thing that broke wikilove ? [09:02:44] clancer: Ping [09:02:47] Maybe. [09:02:48] FF only ? [09:03:01] https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-Dwim.js [09:03:28] It breaks on the line with .suggestions [09:03:33] And it breaks in Chrome, too. [09:06:52] hmm, no, that doesn't seem related then. [09:11:34] aharoni: well if ( !jQuery.isFunction( $searchBoxes.suggestions ) { that's broken at least :D [09:12:24] well, that's my stupidity :) [09:12:50] clancer: Ping [09:36:53] clancer: Ping [10:03:50] hello jan [10:08:10] hi clancer, did you figure out your problem with mediawiki-vagrant? [10:20:30] 03(mod) Username validation message does not describe failure reason, only "You have not specified a valid username" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46995 (10spage) [10:39:48] 03(NEW) Searching for Unicode private code point returns error without description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47770 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MWSearch; () [11:30:54] 03(NEW) UploadWizard doesn't transfer Flickr photos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47771 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [11:31:40] Hello everyone ! [11:32:02] I want to apply for GSOC for MediaWiki [11:32:19] But I haven't been able to think of an idea yet. [11:32:39] How should I decide which project I can work upon ? [11:34:42] 03(mod) Make watchlist newsfeeds more useful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23349 +comment (10Rd232) [11:34:43] 03(mod) Watchlist RSS feed should include diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10268 +comment (10Rd232) [11:47:15] 03(mod) visior statistics problem !!! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47764 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:48:27] 03(mod) Add option in Special:Watchlist to view redirects instead of their target pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27600 +comment (10Rd232) [11:48:27] 03(mod) Special:Watchlist should link to nonredirected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/890 +comment (10Rd232) [12:02:17] 03(mod) adding automatically the sub-pages as new watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40469 +comment (10Rd232) [12:08:02] physikerwelt: around ? [12:08:17] Today and tomorrow I will probably spend some extra time in here to help out GSoC/OPW applicants [12:08:44] physikerwelt: i've had a few MathJax patches out there for months now. [12:09:02] physikerwelt: can you merge them ? otherwise i'm gonna self merge I think.... [12:09:43] Aayush|Away: liangent - hi there, how's it going? [12:10:20] thedj: -1 to self-merge if that makes any sense :( has brion not really been looking at them? [12:12:15] nope [12:13:45] I asked him twice on IRC at least, but i guess he's been as busy as I have been. [12:14:18] thedj: sometimes I am able to ask him for things via email and get them [12:14:31] will try that. [12:14:44] first i'll see if they still even merge after so many months. [12:14:52] 03(mod) Update video on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Logging_in to new account creation interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47692 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [12:16:26] reasonable! [12:16:30] btw it's nice to see you thedj [12:16:42] I just pointed some folks to [[Accessibility]] recently on wikitech-l [12:16:52] and I was reminded of your a11y doc project [12:19:41] hey sumanah :) [12:20:21] Just finished with my internals . [12:22:53] sumanah: yeah, i really wish i had more time to properly work on it again. [12:23:10] Aayush|Away: What are "internals"? Hope they went well! [12:24:52] Hello sumanah ! [12:25:51] hello, how can i include some javascript snippet in the edit page of a mediawiki? [12:26:11] hi ishitva! hope you are doing well [12:26:34] No not really , but I am trying :) [12:26:46] ishitva: hope we can help! [12:26:53] !gadget | uwe [12:26:54] uwe: For information about using Gadgets, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen . For information about Extension:Gadgets see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets [12:27:16] thanks, ill look into this [12:27:17] uwe: check out "gadget kitchen" for some ideas regarding adding a bit of JavaScript to your experience of a MediaWiki page [12:27:19] sure [12:27:49] sumanah: I would like to work on the project "Section handling in Semantic Forms" [12:27:59] ishitva: great! have you contacted the mentor for that project? [12:28:16] no , I haven't contacted the mentor [12:28:37] Why not? [12:28:41] :) [12:28:50] I will contact now :) [12:28:57] Good, good [12:29:10] Yaron Koren is the mentor [12:29:39] sumanah : Internals are like pre semester exams [12:30:30] Hello Aayush|Away ! [12:30:33] What we scored will be added to our final marksheet [12:30:40] Hey ishitva :) [12:30:41] Which college are you from ? [12:31:07] I am from IP University , Delhi [12:31:28] Nice. [12:31:48] MDU Rohtak :) [12:31:56] Thats great ! [12:32:13] ishitva: btw, when I asked why you hadn't contacted the mentor yet, I was asking an honest question. Did you think about contacting the mentor and then decide not to? if so, why? [12:32:33] I want to figure this out so that I can get future students to contact the mentor as one of their first steps [12:32:53] to be honest sumanah I wasn't sure which project I can work upon [12:33:24] ishitva: ok, that makes sense. But then once you decided that you were interested in a particular project, then what happened? [12:33:38] sumanah : What I have seen mostly is students(my friends) have no idea what IRC is. [12:33:39] I have decided today only [12:33:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor on Opera 12: editing existing link doesn't work, breaks selection logic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37861 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:33:57] 03(NEW) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [12:34:00] Aayush|Away: Most people in general also do not know what it is. It's less popular in the general tech world than in open source. [12:34:03] now I am sending Yaron an email enquiring about the project [12:34:09] 03(mod) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:34:11] ok! [12:34:18] :) [12:34:43] Alright be right back [12:34:58] After that I'll start writing my proposal. [12:35:19] Cool :) [12:36:07] 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183 +comment (10zack.wadghiri) [12:37:52] sumanah : I have emailed Yaron enquiring about the project [12:37:57] Great! [12:38:08] Now, ishitva, what are you going to do while you wait for that reply? [12:38:34] I will explore more about the project . [12:38:37] Hi, i need to know whether mediawiki opens a new db connection on for each http request. I want to get the autogenerated id of an insert query using LAST_INSERT_ID() from mysql. Can someone please give me a hint on this? [12:43:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:43:54] ishitva: ok. How are you going to do that? [12:44:23] I am asking these specifics simply because I want to understand better how someone new to our project thinks, so I can improve things [12:44:54] sumanah : I am reading the information on this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms [12:45:08] great. Do you know how to look around the codebase? [12:45:24] Specifically, do you know how to find the code so you can look at it? [12:45:57] no I don't know how to do it [12:45:59] 03(mod) Create component for Disambiguator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47735 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:46:15] I have just downloaded the core project [12:47:49] I 'll read how I can do it [12:49:28] ishitva: ok. So that's a strong signal to me that we need to look at the extension template and make it easier for someone to FIND THE CODE [12:50:01] ishitva: well, actually, in most extensions it's easier; here you need to look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms/Developers%27_documentation [12:50:16] okay [12:51:24] I just updated the link: please look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms.git;a=tree [12:51:36] (instead of the svn link that was previously given in the Developers' Documentation) [12:51:51] okay [12:51:57] You see, in March 2012, we switched from using Subversion as our version control system for our source code, and moved to Git instead [12:52:17] I am a little surprised that no one has updated this link in the documentation since this extension moved [12:52:37] oh [12:52:56] Why is GitHub preffered over Subversion [12:52:57] I need to go in a moment, but just as a different example: if you look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score do you find it easy to figure out where the source code is so you can look at it? [12:53:03] ishitva: Git is not the same thing as GitHub [12:53:07] 03(mod) Visior Statistics problem !!! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47765 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:53:07] 03(mod) visior statistics problem !!! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47764 +comment (10aklapper) [12:53:10] ishitva: but it's a good question to ask [12:53:38] oh I didn't know that [12:53:45] ishitva: the very quick answer is that Subversion is like a lot of people trying to cook together in a small kitchen, and Git allows it to be a "potluck" where people can cook comfortably in their own kitchens and then bring the dish to the party [12:53:59] okay [12:54:27] ishitva: Git is a "version control system" also known as a source control system. GitHub is a popular website that hosts a lot of Git repositories and gives a graphical user interface, code review tools, and so on [12:54:38] okay [12:55:46] So Git is the system that supports version controlling whereas Github is just a website which makes it easy for us to use Git [12:55:48] ? [12:55:53] ishitva: CORRECT! [12:55:57] Thanks :) [12:56:04] good job. [12:56:09] Thanks ! [12:56:29] people who are very new to open source might like these interactive training missions http://openhatch.org/missions/ to learn the basics of using tar, diff, patch, git, and Subversion [12:57:17] 03(mod) [[mw:Extension:Disambiguator]] should provide a special page to list all disambiguation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44040 (10Raimond Spekking) [12:57:22] I have already gone through the Patching and diffing tutorials. I have yet to go through the Git Tutorial , although I have gone through the one at Codeschool.com [12:57:25] ishitva: I need to go in just a minute (my spouse wants to eat breakfast with me), but just as a different example: if you look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Score do you find it easy to figure out where the source code is so you can look at it? [12:57:41] let me check [12:57:43] ok [12:58:04] (I'm glad you've done a few of those tutorials. I hope they are useful to you.) [12:58:47] Yes they were ! [12:59:35] 03(mod) application should not crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30088 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:44] 03(mod) Status: Mbiama Assogo Roger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30278 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:50] 03(mod) Status: Mbiama Assogo Roger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30277 (10Andre Klapper) [12:59:56] 03(mod) USER: Mbiama - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30070 (10Andre Klapper) [13:00:04] sumanah I unable to tell which is better [13:00:27] I will be able to tell , when I use them [13:00:42] ishitva: a friend of mine also did a presentation http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/detail/18856 "Tools for Spelunking a New-to-You Codebase" and wrote "Nearly everyone has started on a project that included existing code. How do you get to know this codebase so you can contribute to it?" and suggested that people like you should try phpinclued , Xdebug profiler, and a few other tools http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/deta [13:00:42] il/18856 [13:00:46] http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/detail/18856 [13:01:02] but https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/SemanticForms.git;a=tree looks neat and clean to me [13:02:15] I need to go, sorry, but others here will help you. Good luck! [13:02:21] also in #gsoc [13:02:46] sumanah Thanks for your help [13:04:57] 03(mod) Automatically propose/suggest a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47492 +comment (10mahitgar) [13:06:39] 03(mod) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 +comment (10matma.rex) [13:11:30] @seen sumanah [13:11:30] liangent: Last time I saw sumanah they were leaving the channel #wikimedia-dev at 4/27/2013 1:02:25 PM (00:09:04.9286750 ago) [13:11:40] ouch [13:11:44] @notify sumanah [13:11:45] I will notify you, when I see sumanah around here [13:23:39] 03(mod) Automatically propose/suggest a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47492 +comment (10mahitgar) [13:28:53] 03(mod) Audio player takes a long time to initialize when requesting Vorbis output via invocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47533 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:31:10] 03(mod) Remove support for WikEd and ajaxPreview from ext.math.mathjax.enabler.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35478 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:31:56] 03(mod) Remove support for WikEd and ajaxPreview from ext.math.mathjax.enabler.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35478 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:33:08] is there any way how to (dis)allow particular html tag(s)? [13:34:26] 03(mod) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 +comment (10matma.rex) [13:34:55] Rahul21: hows going ?? [13:36:56] 03(mod) Automatically propose/suggest a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47492 +comment (10mahitgar) [13:41:21] Danny_B: i think the list of allowed tags is defined somewhere in Parser [13:41:26] Danny_B: there is $wgAllowImageTag [13:41:55] i would need to disallow some tags which are allowed by default [13:42:42] MatmaRex: it should be in includes/Sanitizer.php [13:43:05] Sanitizer::setupAttributeWhitelist() [13:43:22] Is there a difference between POST and GET ajax requests on the API? because if i use POST i get the warning page as if i wouldnt provide _any_ params.. [13:43:44] so no globla to be set obviously :-/ [13:44:30] yeah, apparently [13:44:43] Harper04: there shouldnt be, but some actions require POST requests [13:45:35] legoktm: i"m writing my own action. how can i support it. is it okay to pass the action param with POST too? [13:46:05] Well you have to [13:46:40] Have you read the API docs? [13:46:41] !api [13:46:41] The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API >. For client libraries in various languages, see < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code >. [13:48:29] @notfiy clancer [13:49:30] @notify clancer [13:49:30] I will notify you, when I see clancer around here [13:50:44] Yes. i'm calling the API with jquery ($.ajax). if i set the type to get it works, with post i get the warning [13:52:49] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org encoding issues in descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37817 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [13:53:45] 03(mod) Automatically propose/suggest a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47492 +comment (10mahitgar) [13:54:56] 03(mod) Remove support for WikEd and ajaxPreview from ext.math.mathjax.enabler.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35478 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:03:31] clancer: Ping [14:07:24] 03(mod) Errors in TeX code should be reported to users using MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35556 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:10:36] 03(mod) MathJax treats percent sign (%) as start of a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36855 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:12:49] 03(mod) Remove support for WikEd and ajaxPreview from ext.math.mathjax.enabler.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35478 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:14:12] 03(mod) Errors in TeX code should be reported to users using MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35556 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:15:10] 03(mod) Missing images/icons in Installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26691 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:18:20] 03(mod) MathJax treats percent sign (%) as start of a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36855 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [14:19:13] 03(mod) Unable to install on WAMP server (Windows 7, Apache 2.2.21, PHP 5.3.10) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35606 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:23:00] Reedy: hello [14:25:27] hi~ [14:28:57] I got POST to work on api calls for me with the right content type setting (application/x-www-form-urlencoded). But the HTTP method DELETE still does not work :-/ [14:30:55] Uh yeah [14:30:59] it doesn't work [14:31:09] What are you trying to do? [14:33:09] i'm writing an extension to support annotations on text https://github.com/okfn/annotator/ therefore i'm implementing a new API and replace the storage plugin for serverside saving [14:33:32] But if delete doesn't work i [14:33:43] will just use a new parameter [14:34:01] you want to delete a page? [14:34:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Delete [14:34:53] No only annotations on a page with a REST API [14:35:52] But thank you i got everything to work now [14:36:05] ok great [14:38:09] @notify sumanah [14:38:09] I will notify you, when I see sumanah around here [14:40:18] 03(mod) white screen after no db selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47489 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:48:48] cu guys later [15:03:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trailing whitespace at end of paragraph or table cell dropped on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47712 (10ssastry) [15:08:04] Anyone interested in Real tuime Collaborative Wiki editing and knows something about WM markdown can iron out some minor (simple) issues? I just don't know enoubh about WM Markdown to be able to deal with it https://github.com/JohnMcLear/ep_mediawiki/issues/1 [15:08:21] Prolly take someone who cares about MediaWiki 5 minutes to sort the CSS so it's correct [15:14:30] JohnMcLear: that bug is about etherpad or whatever using mediawiki syntax and not its bog standard [15:14:42] that isn't just a simple css fix I would imagine [15:22:06] 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585 +comment (10b) [15:23:02] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Config-welcome seems misleading, make clearer user should provide debug output etc. when asking for help - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24751 +easy; summary (10Andre Klapper) [15:26:55] 03(mod) Installer does not respect initial DBport declaration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28162 -patch -patch-need-review (10Andre Klapper) [15:29:11] sumanah: hello [15:29:15] hi liangent [15:31:45] sumanah: were you looking for me? [15:32:27] liangent: I wanted to say hi and ask how your summer proposal was going (GSoC if I recall correctly) [15:33:29] sumanah: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Liangent/wb-lang [15:34:51] liangent: I don't think you've mailed the list about it yet, have you? [15:35:32] sumanah: I haven't. I had some talk with denny on irc though [15:35:39] you should mail the lit [15:35:40] list* [15:36:32] you mean wikitech-l or wikidata-l ? [15:36:56] or both? [15:37:46] both [15:40:09] sumanah: and btw wikidata projects are offered by 3 orgs: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:GSoC and wikimedia is the only one I'm familiar with, and the only one participating opw at the same time. [15:40:42] I'm currently only submitting proposal to wikimedia. so I try to do the same for other orgs? [15:40:55] liangent: I think it's worth it for you to investigate the other organizations [15:41:51] liangent: in addition to Wikimedia [15:43:15] 03(mod) Puppet does not run on new instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47773 +comment (10jan) [15:43:34] check them out, talk with them, tell them your situation, see whether they have any other applicants [15:43:46] sumanah: even i am only trying only for wmf ! [15:44:16] Rahul21: Have you submitted a proposal via Melange? [15:44:18] !gsoc [15:44:18] Start a draft on mediawiki.org. In April, submit it to GSoC officially via Melange www.google-melange.com . Then, as you get feedback in IRC and on the wikitech-l mailing list, revise both wiki & Melange versions. Thus there's a public copy that everyone can see + an official copy the mentors see & evaluate. Also, Melange may crash at the 'last minute', so don't wait. Check the Melange FAQ & en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ [15:45:15] sumanah: no, i have only registered as off now. [15:46:02] Rahul21: see the paragraph above :) [15:47:03] sumanah: wm-bot reads your mind sometimes.:) [15:47:21] Rahul21: I'm the one who wrote that particular wm-bot FAQ entry [15:47:30] also you can see that I triggered it by saying "!gsoc" [15:48:51] sumanah: lol! i will upload my proposal my on melange by tommorow, i actually have to solve the gramatical errors you mentioned. [15:49:01] you should upload it now [15:49:03] and then fix it [15:49:12] release early, release often [15:49:25] you can always update and improve your Melange and wiki proposals [15:49:32] better to *have something* submitted early, then fix it [15:49:33] the last version is the one that counts, right? [15:50:32] sumanah: ^ [15:56:31] Rahul21: the last version is the one that the MediaWiki mentors will use to decide whom we accept, yes [15:56:39] Rahul21: but they all "count" in that they are all useful data [15:58:00] hi Rtdwivedi [15:58:11] Hi! [15:58:30] How are you? [15:59:01] I'm all right. It's a beautiful day here and my partner and I just ran an errand and ate brunch [15:59:48] Nice. It's hot here. [16:00:05] it was funny because he's white and I'm Indian-American, and at brunch we sat right next to another couple: an Indian-American guy and a white-skinned woman. It was like an alternate universe or shattered mirror! [16:01:40] Haha! Mirror images. [16:02:19] sumanah: i have a proposal but its not as per as as the application template,hehe [16:02:25] link? [16:02:55] sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc [16:03:39] sumanah: I talked to zaran today. About Proofread Page extension. It was really good talking to him. [16:03:58] Good, good! Zaran is a very helpful guy, in my experience [16:04:05] and he is closer to your timezone right now than I am! [16:04:09] It helped a lot in getting a more clear idea about the project. [16:04:18] Yes. He is wonderful! [16:04:33] sumanah: and since melange doesnt support wikitext, so its gonna be different writing it there,hehe [16:04:37] Rahul21: are you going to improve your proposal to include the sections that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Application_template suggests? [16:05:08] Hi again Aayush251 [16:07:04] Rahul21: when I wrote to you on April 4th, I mentioned that you should find specific users who would want to use the pronunciation recording tool and learn more about their needs so that you can design the tool well. Have you done that? [16:08:04] sumanah: yes obviously!i actually had a talk with micheal dale(my mentor) and will be uploading a v3.0 of my proposal by midnight. I was away because i had my college submissions and practical exams, so couldnt apply those suggestions [16:08:33] Rahul21: OK. I look forward to seeing your summary of the conversations WITH REAL USERS that you have had. (Not just Michael Dale.) [16:08:38] sumanah: Mark Holmquist agreed to help us in integration of Proofread page with Visual Editor. [16:08:56] Rtdwivedi: Interesting! thanks marktraceur [16:09:02] My pleasure! [16:09:03] sumanah: did you see the UI mock up? [16:09:08] unofficially. [16:09:26] Heh. [16:10:12] It must be a really busy time at Mediawiki these days with OPW and GSoC coming up. Isn't it? [16:10:51] Rahul21: I've looked at it. It seems strange to me to tell the user to manually refresh the page; can't you just add a "Finished!" button that does that for them? [16:11:07] Rtdwivedi: I'm not sure I used the term "unofficially" correctly there, but basically you don't need to ask me whether I can help with Parsoid, that's sort of part of my job anyway :) [16:11:23] Rtdwivedi: Yes! It is. That's why I'm taking my weekend time to hang out on IRC and help people, to give Quim a break [16:11:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn ♙ appears after delecting list and moving cursor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41067 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [16:12:14] sumanah: yes thats the suggestion that Matt Flaschen and micheal gave me, just add a 'ok' or a 'finish' button that will automatically refresh the page [16:12:42] Actually, I saw Quim's mail regarding OPW and I thought it would be better for me if I asked you. :-) [16:13:15] Did we have documentation about how to avoid \r in submissions? [16:13:32] 03(mod) white screen after no db selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47489 +comment (10mah) [16:13:59] Rtdwivedi: I'm glad you saw the mail from Quim -- what do you want to ask me about? [16:14:26] Rahul21: OK. I presume you will email the wikitech-l list once you have fixed all the things that Michael and Matt and I have told you to fix. [16:14:44] Nothing. I wanted to ask marktraceur for help. [16:14:55] oh, I misunderstood, I thought you meant me. No prob [16:15:15] I'll be back in a while. [16:15:18] Bye. [16:15:37] liangent: btw, do you understand the advice I gave you? about at least chatting with and investigating other organizations as well? [16:15:44] I want you to have the best possible chances. [16:16:00] Also liangent I infer that you are also interested in OPW? maybe I misunderstood. [16:16:58] sumanah: I'll try to reach them later. I'm busy with something else currently [16:17:01] sure. [16:17:21] about opw, the instruction says I can just sending the same proposal to opw-list? [16:17:29] and liangent you've probably seen me already mention that it's good to have a LOT of time for testing and bugfixing and code review and documentation and s on. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Liangent/wb-lang seems to have a lot of that, so that is good [16:17:53] liangent: yes, you can send the proposal to opw-list but the proposal template for OPW is somewhat different, so you may need to add some stuff [16:18:22] https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#Send_in_an_Application including "how did you hear about this program?" [16:19:06] sumanah: yes i will [16:29:44] sumanah: ok and about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Application_template , I imagine it's not required to follow every section one by one, and I only need to cover the information it's asking for. is this correct? [16:30:53] Rahul21: Hi! From where did you get the idea for your proposed extension? [16:31:52] liangent: it's not REQUIRED to follow each section, no. If you do things in a different order or combination but you still include all the information that we're asking for, that will work! [16:32:27] It's a good idea to ask your mentor(s) & the mailing list to look at it ahead of time to make sure it makes sense and isn't missing huge chunks! [16:33:00] 03(mod) white screen after no db selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47489 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [16:33:47] 03(mod) white screen after no db selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47489 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:33:53] Rahul21: I meant what was the inspiration? It's really cool.. [16:34:40] sumanah: okay then [16:42:18] Rtdwivedi: sorry was out for dinner! [16:43:21] Rtdwivedi: I actually was following the mailing list closely and i fished it from there [16:43:49] Which one? the Wiktionary list? [16:44:17] Oh! The idea is really cool. I hope your proposal gets selected. [16:44:34] sumanah: Rtdwivedi http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-March/067572.html [16:44:54] sumanah: Pronounciation recording extension. [16:46:18] Rtdwivedi: i hope too!Lets see there's an implementation issue i am stuck on, i have alternatives but my hearts stuck on the primary one [16:47:31] I am sure you'll get out of that. When I work on my projects, I notice that its usually a tiny detail that I am missing. And that one causes problems. [16:48:16] Rtdwivedi: the issue i am stuck on is a political one, you maybe surprised to hear that [16:48:52] Oh.. What is it? [16:49:42] * sumanah listens [16:50:05] Rtdwivedi: i am planning to use HTML 5 to record pronunciation, browsers capture the pronunciations in .wav format [16:51:49] And its a Windows format. That's the main problem? [16:52:23] Rtdwivedi: i have to save the .wav file to wikimedia-commons ,but commons doesnt accept it [16:52:39] commons only accepts .ogg [16:53:49] Can we transcode on the server, Rahul21? [16:53:53] would that be acceptable? [16:54:23] 03(mod) Accounts magically unattached despite being recently created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39996 (10pirsquared17) [16:54:25] Can we find a way to convert it to .ogg? It would be difficult. [16:54:29] sumanah: micheal dale 's TMH extension comes handy here ! [16:55:08] Rtdwivedi: Client side transcoding would be too complex, server side transcoding is an option [16:55:40] ok. So in that case, does that solve the policy blocker? [16:57:06] Have you found out a way for server side transcoding yet? [16:57:33] I think I'm being throttled when downloading wikipedia dumps. Who can I talk to about that? [16:57:41] Rtdwivedi: the magic might be here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler [16:57:48] sumanah: people have told me that .wav is patent free now [16:57:56] hi cheriot - apergos is often good to talk with about that, or you could email the dumps list [16:58:02] cheriot: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xmldatadumps-l [16:58:11] thanks! [16:58:19] Rtdwivedi: TMH is an acronym for TimedMediaHandler [16:58:27] Is it the same list for sql dumps? [16:58:56] Rahul21: I guess that makes things easier for you. [16:59:09] cheriot: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ " Please note that we have rate limited downloaders and we are capping the number of per-ip connections to 2. This will help to ensure that everyone can access the files with resonable download times. Clients that try to evade these limits may be blocked. " [16:59:23] so they are rate-limiting everyone [16:59:37] it's not just you [16:59:52] (I might be misreading this but I presume that throttling and rate-limiting are the same thing) [16:59:56] Rahul21: Just out of curiosity, don [17:00:05] That's not the issue, I was downloading from my server at MB/s this morning, but now I'm getting bytes per second [17:00:13] Don't you have exams coming up? [17:00:17] 03(mod) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:00:22] I can still download at decent rates from my laptop, though [17:00:25] Rtdwivedi: yes it does, there are certain complexities still, but once this issue gets solved i am confident with my proposal [17:00:49] Rtdwivedi: yes [17:01:02] Rtdwivedi: may 24th [17:01:17] Same here. I have from 30th April. [17:01:24] cheriot: so when I look at http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ I see that it seems like xmldatadumps-l is the list you should write to to ask about this, because that's mentioned right after "A number of raw database tables in SQL form are also available." [17:02:14] I see that now. Thanks for the pointer [17:03:07] Rtdwivedi: nice to see many indians making it this far! [17:03:16] good luck cheriot [17:03:21] also are you on the research list? [17:03:24] !research [17:03:24] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research [17:03:54] Indian colleges seriously need more of Open Source culture. [17:04:14] that looks interesting [17:04:16] In IIT Roorkee, <10% of the population uses Linux. [17:05:17] Which is sad in my opinion. [17:05:37] Rtdwivedi: You're doing a sight better than a lot of colleges, I think :) [17:05:56] Rtdwivedi: I fully agree that more would be awesome, but...not bad :) [17:06:08] Rtdwivedi: i have a very close friend in IIT-R, yea in my college i am the amongst an elite duo that uses linux [17:06:37] Who is your friend? I might know him/her. [17:06:55] marktraceur: Good to know that the figure isn't bad. :-) [17:07:13] *nod* [17:07:31] Rtdwivedi : <10 % is still good [17:07:32] Rtdwivedi: At my school, I and maybe...ten others were the GNU/Linux contingent [17:07:43] marktraceur: We are working to get more people to use Linux. [17:07:43] Here there is only 1 and that is me :( [17:07:53] 1 is better than nothing. [17:08:18] Aayush251: You are the torch bearer of your college. :-D [17:08:37] p858snake|l sorry but you are wrong, it is a simple css fix :) We use CSS to append the before and after rules for the markdown [17:10:11] Rtdwivedi: Rushin Contractor [17:10:31] Rtdwivedi: he is in the Electrical Engg dept! [17:10:44] Abhishek Das? [17:11:34] I know a few people from EE dept. [17:12:15] Rtdwivedi: his name is Rushin Contactor [17:12:54] Have seen him. Never talked personally. [17:13:30] (back in a bit) [17:16:57] @notify sumanah [17:16:57] I will notify you, when I see sumanah around here [17:20:48] @notify csteipp [17:20:48] I will notify you, when I see csteipp around here [17:23:41] 03(NEW) Include namespace at label when creating item via [Add links] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47774 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [17:35:55] 03(NEW) Centralized Search Engine - Project Proposal for Google Summer of Code 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775 normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; () [17:37:36] 03(mod) Centralized Search Engine - Project Proposal for Google Summer of Code 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775 (10code_sid) [17:51:10] Hey everyone. In about 10 minutes we're going to be talking about the new account creation and login designs (http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/try-new-login-accountcreation/), in #wikimedia-office, if you want to join. [17:59:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-used refs wrongly expanded to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47417 (10James Forrester) [18:04:07] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10qgil) [18:11:47] 03(mod) Make action=credits faster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47722 +comment (10kelson) [18:14:40] 03(mod) Page number attribute for tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13127 +comment (10DaSch) [18:16:48] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Edit vs. edit source tab split not preserved across action=history, action=edit, Special:Undelete, … - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47776 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [18:17:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit vs. edit source tab split not preserved across action=history, action=edit, Special:Undelete, … - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47776 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:18:42] 03(mod) Cache action=credits results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47723 +comment (10kelson) [18:20:34] 03(mod) Open username policy in tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47530 +comment (10mflaschen) [18:22:01] 03(mod) Render server error for specific ZIM or PDF file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46946 +comment (10kelson) [18:26:34] 03(NEW) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 minor; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [18:27:11] 03(mod) Missing images/icons in Installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26691 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [18:27:50] 03(NEW) creation of wikidata-tech mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47778 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; () [18:28:35] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to switch between VisualEditor and wikitext editor modes without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47779 enhancement; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [18:28:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to switch between VisualEditor and wikitext editor modes without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47779 (10James Forrester) [18:37:17] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Tools to set/unset text as underlined/struckthrough/small/big/superscript/subscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47780 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [18:38:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tools to set/unset text as underlined/struckthrough/small/big/superscript/subscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47780 normal->minor (10James Forrester) [18:49:55] hi, when profiling (i log to a file) are the timings milliseconds? [18:51:49] i set up a wiki with sqlite some weeks ago and recently it started taking several seconds to serve a page that's why i am trying to find out why [18:53:49] looks like it is usually the query "SELECT mr_blob,mr_resource,mr_timestamp FROM msg_resource WHERE mr_r". google finds nothing, so i guess it might be some extension [18:56:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Upload-by-insertion of images via copy-paste - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37932 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:58:01] actually, i found another user with trouble http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A--MediaWiki-l--mediawiki-drives-the-database-insane--workaround--p34485442.html [19:00:27] huh, i disabled some extensions, loaded a page (took ages), enabled them again as it was not faster, got an "A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading?" error and now it is fairly fast (i did NOT run update.php yet) [19:02:07] 03(mod) ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 (10James Forrester) [19:02:52] 03(mod) 0 for the SQLite database name (as in 0.sqlite) breaks the installation without warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40966 (10Andre Klapper) [19:02:53] 03(mod) SQLite support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20257 (10Andre Klapper) [19:05:29] 03(mod) Centralized Search Engine - Project Proposal for Google Summer of Code 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Quim Gil) [19:06:41] 03(mod) Centralized Search Engine - Project Proposal for Google Summer of Code 2013 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775 +comment (10Quim Gil) [19:07:02] 03(mod) Centralized Search Engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775 summary (10Quim Gil) [19:16:17] something seems to be locking the database all the time and i guess that is the issue :( [19:19:54] 03(mod) Determine block mode vs. inline mode properly for MathJax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35188 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:31:11] 03(NEW) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 major; MediaWiki: File management; () [19:32:23] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10rabe) [19:36:05] Rtdwivedi: Hello [19:36:17] Hi! [19:36:39] Rtdwivedi: nice proposal :) [19:37:09] Thank you! [19:37:48] Special thanks to Tpt_ and Quim for the help and suggestions. :) [19:37:55] Rtdwivedi: link of your draft ? Have you changed something ? and applied on melange ? [19:38:10] I have applied on melange. [19:38:28] Rtdwivedi: link ? [19:38:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rtdwivedi#GSoC_2013_Proposal [19:38:47] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/aarti_dwivedi/5001# [19:40:15] 03(mod) Etherpad lite unusable at about 1000 lines or more (CPU load makes it lag) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46637 (10Nemo) [19:40:28] Rtdwivedi: good good :) I am also now drafting proposal [19:41:22] Oh.. Which project have you chosen? [19:42:12] Rtdwivedi: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991/GSoC_2013 still under construction [19:46:12] harshkothari: Looks good. :-) [19:46:24] 03(mod) Update video on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Logging_in to new account creation interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47692 +comment (10mflaschen) [19:46:40] thanks Rtdwivedi :) [19:52:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support for definition-lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37938 (10James Forrester) [20:07:20] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [20:28:20] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10Liangent) [20:47:23] 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't transfer Flickr photos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47771 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [20:54:40] Awesome. [20:54:44] Rasel160: Thanks! [20:56:28] Rasel160: Since the mw.msg stuff was handled in a separate patchset in the meantime, maybe update the commit message to not include that [20:57:50] Rasel160: Two things, then we can go :) [21:01:05] 03(mod) Use mediawiki.ui classes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47627 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:08:39] 03(mod) jQuery.IME improvements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46660 +comment (10Ankit Gadgil) [21:08:53] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10Raphael Eiselstein) [21:10:51] Hey guys, can someone help me out a bit? I'm trying to make a wiki and I want the users to land on a subdomain with short urls [21:11:15] like... http://en.mywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:12:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:15:00] 03(mod) [VisualEditor] CSS and JS pages should only be editable using the source editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47768 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:15:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should not become active on non-wikitext ContentHandler-type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47456 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:16:11] CyrusV, start at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [21:16:23] I already found my way to that oage [21:16:25] page* [21:16:31] but what about subdomains? [21:16:55] I haven't tried, but it shouldn't really be a problem. [21:17:12] A different part of the stack generally handles that (hostname -> folder). [21:17:22] What HTTP server are you running? [21:17:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 summary (10James Forrester) [21:17:37] Apache [21:18:21] Did you try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache ? [21:18:34] my issue is more with the subdomain [21:19:01] making it go from http://mywiki.com to -> http://en.mywiki.com [21:19:09] when someone clicks the link [21:19:19] and further on, to be able to host multiple languages. [21:19:55] 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694 +comment (10b) [21:20:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit vs. edit source tab split not preserved across action=history, action=edit, Special:Undelete, … - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47776 +comment (10jforrester) [21:21:03] CyrusV, that's a little more complicated. Have you looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Farm ? [21:28:02] superm401, to be honest, I haven;t [21:28:05] haven't* [21:28:08] taking a look now! [21:28:23] Alright, good luck. I might be back on later. [21:28:46] Some or all of the information on this page is inconsistent, irrelevant or confusing. [21:28:52] 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694 +comment (10b) [21:28:54] they're not joking :D [21:35:42] Is there anybody who can help me with making a subdomain for different languages? [21:37:14] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 normal->major; +comment (10Jasper Deng) [21:37:57] 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694 +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki) [21:38:25] * Thehelpfulone gives Susan a cookie for finding that [21:38:58] Nom. [21:39:34] :) [21:39:39] bon apetit. [21:39:54] can anybody help me with making a subdomain for different languages? [21:40:25] I made the subdomain... now what? make a clean install and have a new db? [21:47:20] marktraceur: I got an email from wikitech saying my account has been moved to the group "shell" what does that mean [21:48:44] Also how do you know when a bug is closed? I see a closed one but the status is still NEW [21:49:26] Kyzz: which one? it should be RESOLVED FIXED if it was fixed. [21:49:41] note, "fixed" means that the patch was merged into MediaWiki [21:49:52] (but not necessarily deployed on Wikimedia sites) [21:50:19] please, one question... if I wish to have a multilingual wiki should I just install wiki in multiple subdomains? [21:50:26] marktraceur walked me through this bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43412#c3 [21:50:27] like en, de, etc? [21:50:30] Just curious for future refrence [21:50:34] and have multiple db [21:52:40] Kyzz: that patch is not merged, so it's not FIXED yet. :) [21:53:07] MatmaRex: So if a patch is suggested how can i view where it is in the process? [21:53:57] If you're talking about fixing bugs, maybe you could answer my 'noob' question really fast? pretty please :) [21:54:59] CyrusV: This link should help you out and should answer any questions :) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multilingual_MediaWiki [21:56:02] If that didn't answer your question someone will chime in soon enough :) [21:57:25] Thank you Kyzz! [21:57:37] I've came across that page earlier... but I think it's kinda outdates. [21:57:42] outdated* [21:58:48] Do you happen to know if it would be ok if I just install MediaWiki on every subdomain, for every language? [22:01:30] CyrusV: I can only give you my two cents and some info from the wiki. It seems if you do want to set it up such as that it would make sense based off of what secnario one suggests: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family [22:06:52] 03(NEW) Rollback workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47782 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [22:07:39] 03(mod) Thanks workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47658 +comment (10MZMcBride) [22:07:39] 03(mod) Rollback workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47782 (10MZMcBride) [22:07:41] Another question please... should I install WikiMedia in a folder named 'wiki'? [22:08:46] CyrusV: This should answer that question as well :) , but let me know if its doesn't http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki#Prepare_the_directories [22:10:25] CyrusV: The software is called "MediaWiki". :-) [22:10:31] CyrusV: And no, probably not. [22:10:53] You probably want to use a folder called "w" (if you want to use pretty/short URLs). [22:11:41] Kyzz: well, the patch is on gerrit, which is out code review platform [22:11:52] Kyzz: if anything's happening, it'll be on gerrit [22:12:55] Susan, lol I said WikiMedia, sorry... must be the late hours kickin' in(over 1am here) [22:13:22] Susan, that's what I want and so far it's been a bit confusing [22:13:27] but I'll go with w [22:13:43] Go with "w". That's what Wikipedia and MediaWiki.org use. :-) [22:14:34] Thank you. [22:19:40] Another question, do I still need to chmod 777 some folders in this version? [22:20:16] o.O [22:20:31] there never was a version where u needed to [22:20:51] that's a relief [22:21:01] I was seeing something about it in here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki#Prepare_the_directories [22:21:17] whoever wrote it, was wrong [22:21:48] you need to give rwx to user apache is running as to directory where images are stored [22:22:28] I see I've passed the requirements and I can continue the instalation. [22:22:30] 03(mod) Rollback workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47782 +comment (10Resolute) [22:22:47] but I got a few Warnings. [22:22:59] Warning: Your default directory for uploads /home/litewiqq/public_html/en/w/images/ is vulnerable to arbitrary scripts execution. [22:23:02] This for instance. [22:28:29] 03(mod) Rollback workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47782 +comment (10b) [22:30:56] hi sweet_kid :) hope things are going well [22:31:08] hi sumanah :) [22:31:24] it's so so [22:31:39] I've not yet got an official mentor [22:31:57] how're you doing? [22:35:37] I'm all right. Today was National Neighborhood Day and some folks outside a local library set up chalk, "what do you want in your neighborhood" stickers and markers, and cookies and water [22:35:47] someone came by with a violin and started playing music [22:35:53] and then additional musicians showed up and they all played together [22:35:55] it was nice [22:36:05] sweet_kid: so, remind me, what is your proposal? link? [22:36:54] Hey sumanah a query . [22:37:00] go ahead Aayush251 [22:37:32] In about me section can I write about my current part time job even if its not related to technology? [22:37:34] sumanah: I've sent a mail regarding this to twisted, I want to work on their Instant Messaging protocol of Twisted [22:37:44] Aayush251: I think so [22:37:48] about which link you're talking? [22:38:08] Aayush251: basically I think you should mention things that help us understand why we should pick you [22:38:15] which include proof that you are competent, diligent, and reliable [22:38:29] ok [22:38:29] sweet_kid: I mean, can you give me a link to the proposal you have written for the summer project [22:38:56] and can I leave schedule section for now? ( Still need to confirm my final's datesheet) [22:38:57] I need to discuss it with my mentor first, which I've not yet done [22:39:05] sweet_kid: but now I see that you are aiming to work on Twisted, so I would not necessarily be able to be as helpful as I would be if you were working on MediaWiki [22:39:07] :) [22:39:14] I pinged keturn, but I think she was busy at that moment [22:39:27] np sumanah :) [22:39:54] Aayush251: my suggestion is that you say in the schedule section "this is what I know for sure ...... [info] ....... and this is what I need to figure out ...... [open questions, waiting for datesheet, datesheet should show up by $date]" [22:40:21] known unknowns are better than unknown unknowns [22:40:36] It all depends on when my exams end. [22:40:41] then go ahead and say that [22:41:02] Last time it was 17 june so maybe I'll use that to give a rough schedule [22:41:16] right, and just state that it is tentative and might change [22:41:36] sweet_kid: and you've emailed keturn to ask for feedback, right? [22:42:19] I mailed to Twisted, in which I mentioned that I need a mentor to guide me [22:42:38] * sumanah thinks a little aggressiveness here would be good :) [22:42:46] go ahead and directly email keturn, I think [22:42:54] okay [22:43:02] I'll do that :) [22:43:13] marktraceur: patch set submitted :) [22:43:37] Yay! [22:44:32] Earlier, Itamarst was mentoring me, but later he said that I won't be able to mentor you if you're not living in Boston because I won't be available online much [22:44:51] Oh that is unfortunate [22:45:01] btw thanks a lot sumanah , for your concern :) [22:45:20] I'll mail keturn [22:45:33] :) [22:45:47] you might want to cc the other Twisted people (itamarst and jesstess I think?) [22:46:17] Itamarst asked me to talk to jesstess and keturn [22:46:32] and I pinged both of them [22:46:32] makes sense :) [22:46:55] now I'll mail [22:47:06] nice [22:47:09] But I've submitted four patches :) [22:47:12] you can also talk to keturn in #opw right now! [22:47:37] though it was quite tough for me, since I was unable to understand that bug tracker [22:47:57] I pinged him on #twisted, an hour ago [22:48:19] well, I see keturn talking with me right now in #opw on GNOME IRC. [22:48:24] got it. :) [22:51:05] I wrote my message there [22:51:12] now hoping for a reply [22:51:19] yep [22:51:29] and there it is! yay. [22:52:50] thanks a ton sumanah :) [22:52:57] * mooeypoo looks around [22:53:01] * mooeypoo waves hello [22:53:02] hi mooeypoo how are you? [22:53:09] sweet_kid: I'm glad to help! [22:53:11] pretty good :) how are you? [22:53:20] hi mooeypoo :) [22:53:25] hey sweet_kid :) [22:53:28] I am good! did you know today is National Neighborhood Day in the US? [22:53:52] I had no idea, no [22:53:53] it is? [22:53:57] What does that mena? [22:53:58] :D [22:54:30] weird, the site says it's in Sept [22:54:54] basically, there were various grassroots get-togethers in various cities and towns where people talked and had fun and did neighborhoody things [22:55:18] oooh [22:55:21] in my area, some folks outside a local library set up chalk, "what do you want in your neighborhood" stickers and markers, and cookies and water, and then someone came by with a violin and started playing music, and then more musicians showed up, and I met nice people [22:55:33] sounds awesome [22:55:55] I didn't leave my house today. Got 2 projects and a research grant proposal thing (eh) [22:56:02] *and* the GSoC proposal :D [22:56:17] mooeypoo: and sweet_kid you might enjoy skimming http://planeteria.org/wfs/ in your COPIOUS FREE TIME (that bit in capital letters is a joke) [22:56:42] mooeypoo: you are so busy I am honored you can even swing by #mediawiki :) you saw that some people gave you feedback on your ideas? [22:56:45] I enjoy skimming. I shall put it on my skim list. [22:57:16] I did! And I was really happy to get them, but then the last reply made me a little worried actually [22:57:19] * sumanah imagines mooeypoo jet-skiing, skimming across the water [22:57:29] hah! I wish :D [22:57:46] * sumanah listens [22:58:46] well, qgil made a good point [22:58:51] sumanah: you're so knowledgeable [22:58:55] B-) [22:59:13] thank you sweet_kid! [22:59:17] mooeypoo, ? [22:59:29] The project is pretty ambitious, but I was thinking of making the GSoC part of it small, like just developing the base core of it so it can be extended later [22:59:35] mooeypoo: are you also applying for OPW? [22:59:42] but I need to see if there are any mentors [22:59:54] OPW ? [23:00:09] oh, hi qgil! [23:00:09] !opw [23:00:09] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !stroopwafels, [23:00:13] ha! [23:00:19] !opw is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women [23:00:19] Key was added [23:00:21] thanks for replying to my email to the list :) [23:00:30] oh ! I know of that, i didn't recognize the abbreviation [23:00:38] oh! [23:00:52] I think so [23:00:57] are you a girl or a guy? [23:01:01] I am a woman [23:01:05] If you're a girl, then you should apply [23:01:16] Is it part of GSoC though? I got a bit confused [23:01:27] mooeypoo, what is your project? (or you name) :) [23:01:32] Moriel Schottlender [23:01:37] I suggested the physics visual rendering engine [23:01:57] qgil to be honest, the project can be big if some physics engine is added like box2d or something [23:02:01] but I was thinking of starting out small [23:02:34] mooeypoo, ah, ok. As said, my main concern is the few days left. I wish you would have started the discussion a month ago, like others did. [23:02:51] mooeypoo, now 'm not sure we can find mentors for this quite experimental project [23:02:59] I see your point [23:03:35] It's my first GSoC, I didn't realize we were supposed to discuss the ideas before we send proposals to get mentors, I thought it was more a dsicussion in terms of getting to know the company. [23:03:41] mooeypoo, but if you really bet on this proposal you can proceed anyway [23:03:41] I guess I'll learn for the future :) [23:04:07] Okay, I'll be honest, since I saw that people might be interested, I think I might attempt to do this regardless of GSoC [23:04:25] (which would be cool mooeypoo!) [23:04:26] mooeypoo, this is the case for "monolithic" organizations where al potential mentors cover all potential areas more or less [23:04:28] (we love that too) [23:04:43] so writing a proposal -- even a general one is probably going to be good anyways. But can I maybe submit another proposal? or are we limited to one? [23:04:43] mooeypoo, in our case the diversity is huge, and there is nobody able to mentor any proposal [23:05:00] you are not limited to 1 [23:05:10] well ,I think the "final result" is huge, but the base idea doesn't have to be. [23:05:14] mooeypoo, I encourage you to follow the process we are proposing for GSoC anyway [23:05:32] sweet_kid: (another nice thing about OPW is that it is open to people who do not identify as a binary gender! just so you know) [23:05:34] mooeypoo, draft in a wiki page, file a Bugzilla report and submit the idea in the GSoC tool [23:05:43] mooeypoo, maybe a mentor appears during the week [23:05:53] 03(mod) Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41729 +comment (10matma.rex) [23:05:58] okay! [23:06:00] mooeypoo, if not, and if the idea is interesting to others, that work will be useful anyway [23:06:03] I didn't know about it [23:06:14] thanks again :) [23:06:19] It can be something as relatively simple as creating a base in php/js for the rendering (canvas probably, or SVG) and then wiki templates that can read the base markup, etc [23:06:27] qgil: yep, I'm working on a proposal now [23:06:38] and I think just to be safe, I'll submit another for a slightly smaller-scale project [23:06:51] mooeypoo, that's the attitude! [23:07:19] it's my first time doing GSoC and I'm a bit new to computer science world, I didn't feel entirely comfortable taking on some of those suggested projects.. this was something I thought I could start with, since my background is physics. [23:07:23] But I can try! :D [23:07:42] mooeypoo, if you look at the list of featured ideas, we have mentors aligned for all of them - and not all have been "claimed" by a student yet (although this doesn't mean that you can't go for ideas already "claimed" by others) [23:07:57] "claim" (as qgil is putting it in quotes) is definitely tentative [23:08:00] I'd rather not "steal" someone's claim :) [23:08:12] if there are 2 or 3 students interested in something, we will be a bit Darwinistic about it [23:08:13] mooeypoo, well, that's debatable [23:08:26] mooeypoo, you have to look at the proposals and see if you could do better [23:08:41] Hm. [23:08:41] it is fine for a mentor to say "I prefer student A to student B" and then student B ought to pick something else [23:08:44] that's how life is and we're ok with that [23:09:04] hmmm. I will do that then. I'll look at the idea list [23:09:06] don't be too deferential about what are really tentative ideas [23:09:18] Also, when 2-3 students are interested in a proposal this also has the effect of giving more weight to such proposal, regardless of who gets it [23:09:23] There's one more thing I wanted to ask [23:09:24] true [23:09:36] sweet_kid: you are welcome :) [23:09:38] maybe other ideas are free but won't make it to cut since we won't have an unlimited amount of slots. [23:09:39] I wrote it in my pre-proposal idea page but I want to make sure so I know what to do without ruining anything to anyone [23:09:47] * Kyzz is feeling awesome  [23:09:54] yay Kyzz! [23:10:19] biab. [23:11:15] I am awaiting answer for an internship this summer, if I get in it'll be pretty awesome, but it means I can't do GSoC.. so as I said, I think i might work on my physics engine idea nayways but not for GSoC. I will know the answer next week, but too close-call to wait for. Should I submit my proposal and note that I might have to withdraw by next week, or should I wait for the last possible momen before I know? [23:11:38] mooeypoo, submit [23:11:51] mooeypoo, submitting is good exercise anyway [23:12:56] mooeypoo, imagine that you don't get GSoC / OPW for whatever reason but you have done your homework. Then you can start on your free time, learn more, get some contacts interested in the idea... [23:13:10] mooeypoo, and then perhaps in a couple of months you start thinking that it's worth trying e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG [23:13:23] or the next OPW round in Winter. Etc. [23:15:55] 03(mod) "Can't see the image? Request an account" should be an optional parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47705 (10jeremyb) [23:18:13] * sumanah is back. The roof got too cold. BETRAYAL [23:18:55] sumanah: Heh, "!opw" pings me as it's similar to "!op". [23:19:05] Word boundaries are hard. [23:20:56] sumanah: So the roof, the roof, the roof is not on fire? [23:21:01] qgil: great, that sounds good. [23:21:42] good :) [23:21:52] Susan: if your pinging is case-sensitive then [23:21:59] I could replace !opw with !OPW [23:22:07] hi marktraceur next week I'd like to hear your opinions about https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/26/floss-internship-programs-as-catalysts-for-richer-community-collaboration/ whenever you have 10 mins [23:22:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Mooeypoo/GSOC_2013_Project <-- I am adding a couple of elments to the idea first. As I work on the proposal, I think I might send it to the lists anyways and see if anyone can propose any ideas or insights as I go. [23:22:20] Oh, cool, I have ten minutes now [23:22:21] * marktraceur looks [23:22:50] marktraceur, I'd rather go for 10 minutes face to face [23:22:58] lazy me [23:23:10] 03(NEW) translatewiki.net enhancement - Android application - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47783 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [23:23:31] Oh, sure [23:23:33] 03(mod) "Can't see the image? Request an account" should be an optional parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47705 (10jeremyb) [23:23:47] qgil: It's up to you, but I rather enjoy text communication [23:24:00] Easier to keep track of [23:24:00] sumanah: oooooh, i'm sitting outdoors now :) [23:24:29] marktraceur, doing GSoC work now... [23:24:58] sumanah: I think it's fine as-is, just mentioning it. [23:24:59] sumanah: i doubt it's case sensitive... are you telling people to come use !_opw somewhere? [23:25:01] I'll fix my stalk. [23:25:16] jeremyb_: It was added as an alias to wm-bot. [23:25:17] !opw [23:25:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women [23:25:22] aha [23:25:36] !gopw [23:25:38] ? :) [23:25:42] [ ]*!op[s]? -regexp [23:25:52] I guess I need \b? [23:25:57] depends if it's perl [23:26:04] It's irssi. [23:26:10] then it's perl! [23:26:17] i didn't realize you were irssi [23:26:32] I use a frontend. [23:26:59] oh, you use it as a bouncer? or how do you mean? [23:27:03] what OS? [23:27:32] MacIrssi [23:27:38] I have a bouncer. [23:27:53] I haven't used that word in a while. [23:27:55] qgil: Thanks for coming online today. I appreciate it. I helped out some folks here & in the OPW channel & onlist. Hope to do more tomorrow as well. [23:28:12] sumanah, thank *you* [23:28:33] If there's something you need, please let me know [23:28:40] I know how overwhelming it can get in the last week. [23:30:07] there's an opw channel? [23:31:19] qgil: Whenever works for you works for me [23:31:35] mooeypoo: on GNOME IRC [23:31:37] ok, during the week [23:31:43] *nod* [23:32:03] mooeypoo: #opw IRC channel (irc.gnome.org) in case you want to come by [23:32:28] okay done :) [23:32:36] qgil: I guess I could also just comment on the post? [23:32:41] it's on the GNOME network because the umbrella org is the GNOME Foundation [23:32:45] marktraceur, of course! [23:32:48] Aayush|Away: neat! lemme see? [23:33:05] qgil: I mean, if that would work better due to async and publicness [23:33:05] * sumanah has to go eat dinner soon though [23:33:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Aayush251 [23:33:40] still need to fix schedule [23:33:56] I'll do it tomorrow its 5 am already >_< [23:34:11] I'll fix it today* [23:36:12] Aayush|Away: "logical tomorrow" I say sometimes :) [23:37:27] True that [23:37:43] Aayush|Away: One tiny suggestion: move https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Aayush251 to a subpage of your userpage, and that way your proposal can HAVE a talkpage instead of BEING a talkpage [23:38:33] qgil: I think all our mentors should skim http://people.gnome.org/~federico/docs/summer-of-code-mentoring-howto/ and read this page: http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/what-makes-a-good-mentor/ [23:39:12] sumanah, could you add the link to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_mentors please? [23:39:20] ok, my partner is now putting the finishing garnish on dinner (avocado!) so I need to go :) [23:39:22] qgil: sure, will do [23:41:40] 03(mod) Navigating PDF pagination should not require page reload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40207 (10balloonguy123) [23:54:10] 03(mod) Adapt "contributors" benefit for different values of $wgActiveUserDays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47753 +comment (10b) [23:55:18] 03(mod) Mark pages that self-transclude as vary-revision so they are not outdated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39590 +comment (10Mark Holmquist)