[00:00:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Aliens' phantoms don't appear in the Hebrew Wikipedia (cache/CSSJanus issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47746 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:01:41] *sigh* working with big idiotic clients is annoying [00:02:20] 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when a module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296 +comment (10Krinkle) [00:03:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Aliens' phantoms don't appear in the Hebrew Wikipedia (cache/CSSJanus issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47746 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:04:43] 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when a module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296 +comment (10krinklemail) [00:05:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Aliens' phantoms don't appear in the Hebrew Wikipedia (cache/CSSJanus issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47746 +comment (10orbit) [00:05:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Aliens' phantoms don't appear in the Hebrew Wikipedia (cache/CSSJanus issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47746 (10Christian Williams) [00:08:54] 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when a module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296 +comment (10jgonera) [00:11:00] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10fflorin) [00:11:46] 03(NEW) #mw-mf-searchForm has been removed but some code still relies on it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47857 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:13:37] Hi. [00:14:19] Is there any way I can configure the resource loader to not minimize javascript and not collect multiple script files into a single request, while still adding the global-namespace-protecting closure around modules? [00:16:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Coordinate template on dewiki not alienated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47788 (10Inez Korczyński) [00:16:10] 03(mod) Should return error message (rather than "zero results") when search fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43544 +comment (10Munagala Ramanath (Ram)) [00:20:53] redlizard: On every request? [00:21:17] On every request or on a specific request, I don't care. [00:21:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Shift-Right deletes characters instead of selecting in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47711 +comment (10inez) [00:21:53] Hey y'all. Project: namespace on my wiki aliases to "Policies Wiki:". [00:22:57] 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when a module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296 +comment (10arichards) [00:23:01] (For context, I'm debugging a Heisenbug which goes away when I enable resource loader debugging.) [00:23:15] A worker at Wikia tells me that having "Project:" not alias at all but instead just be part of article namespace (with a non-functioning "project:" in front) would be impossible [00:23:26] Would you agree with that? [00:24:10] 03(mod) Editing lists results in PILE_OF_POO symbol ;) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47817 +comment (10Inez Korczyński) [00:25:40] 03(mod) Editing lists results in PILE_OF_POO symbol ;) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47817 +comment (10inez) [00:25:54] Reedy: Any suggestions? [00:26:21] On a specific one ?debug=true will stop the minification etc [00:26:33] Not sure if it still does the closures [00:26:40] It disables the closures too. [00:28:15] 03(mod) Time-dependent conditionals (#ifeq, #switch, etc.) can leave link tables inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18478 +comment (10joedecker) [00:32:37] Ah, I found a solution. [00:32:42] It's ugly, but it works. [00:33:45] That is, I found the key parts of ResourceLoader.php to comment out :) [00:35:02] redlizard: It seems a bit odd to implement a solution without a problem. Why are you seeking to do this? [00:35:16] Krinkle: (For context, I'm debugging a Heisenbug which goes away when I enable resource loader debugging.) [00:35:51] redlizard: Can you elaborate on this bug itself? [00:36:06] It's my own, so I doubt that would be helpful. [00:36:19] redlizard: Is it related to a ReferenceError or TypeError about a property undefined? [00:36:20] I'm hacking some existing module to adapt it to my purposes. [00:36:50] Not sure yet, as I'm not getting any errors at all. [00:40:38] ^_^ I /love/ how WordPress has a page telling you about upgrade to itself you can make, but absolutely will not tell you what version you actually have installed. [00:40:51] 03(NEW) Make jquery.tablesorter work on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47858 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:40:54] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:42:01] Yeah, it's a TypeError about a supposedly global variable being undefined. [00:42:39] Nobody's familiar enough with namespace aliases to help? [00:43:30] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:46:20] Ah, found it :) [00:47:27] 03(mod) JSON extension dependency has a non-free component: JSON_parser.c - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47431 +comment (10pleasestand) [00:52:05] 03(mod) possible RL error from GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47839 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:59:37] 03(mod) Make bits.wikimedia.org Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25886 -ops ; +comment (10Krinkle) [00:59:39] 03(mod) Odiya webfonts not working in win xp + FF 8.0.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33034 (10Krinkle) [01:02:46] 03(mod) "Log in" button is oversized in redesigned user login form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47785 (10spage) [01:15:03] 03(mod) Improve error message when viewing draft - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47853 summary; +comment (10Chad H.) [01:30:19] 03(mod) v1.9a SMW_conceptCache.php Fatal error on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47849 +comment (10jamie) [01:52:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Aliens' phantoms don't appear in the Hebrew Wikipedia (cache/CSSJanus issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47746 (10James Forrester) [01:54:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Shift-Right deletes characters instead of selecting in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47711 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:55:55] 03(mod) Message for term for main namespace page, with plural support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47841 +comment (10mflaschen) [01:56:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector input text always has LTR direction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47717 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:58:39] 03(mod) Message for term for main namespace page, with plural support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47841 +comment (10mflaschen) [02:12:56] 03(mod) Force all wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10b) [02:16:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Blanked page content in edit mode using Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47834 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:16:32] 03(mod) Force all wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10jforrester) [02:20:12] 03(mod) Force all wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10mflaschen) [02:20:42] 03(mod) Force all wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10mflaschen) [02:23:56] 03(mod) Apply jquery.ui.button styles to normal buttons in MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44856 (10spage) [02:35:09] 03(mod) Force all wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:39:13] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10b) [02:40:32] 03(mod) Force all Wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users (logged-in and anon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 summary (10MZMcBride) [02:45:10] 03(NEW) app does not indicate which license it uses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47859 normal; Commons App: Android; () [02:49:00] 03(mod) say "you have successfully changed your password" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47399 +comment (10Jiabao Wu) [02:52:06] 03(mod) Force all Wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users (logged-in and anon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 +comment (10tylerromeo) [03:03:23] 03(NEW) Extra tags got inserted causing infobox layout broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47860 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [03:04:34] Welp bye y'all [03:13:48] 03(NEW) [TUX] Text cannot be marked in the original message field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47861 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [03:43:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a language inspector to handle
blocks and similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47759 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [03:50:27] 03(mod) Installation bugs and site insecure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1361 (10p858snake) [03:52:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor needs many time to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47760 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:52:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Toolbar tooltip text throbs when un-floated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47766 (10James Forrester) [03:53:08] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10jasper) [03:54:33] Susan ^ [04:01:37] Instead of worrying about this 3rd party cookie stuff, etc... I wonder if we should just switch to a real SSO setup. [04:02:02] ie: Kill off the login page on every website. And instead just have a real proper single Wikimedia login page. [04:05:06] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10b) [04:06:03] At that point the worst lack of 3rd party cookies can do is make it so that you're logged out on the first page but when you hit the login link instead of landing on the form you just land right back on the same page you were on but with a proper logged in session now, [04:09:43] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10b) [04:10:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A lot of time needed to load blocks? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47760 summary (10James Forrester) [04:12:38] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10jasper) [04:15:43] 03(mod) Change of IP block settings produces duplicate block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44657 +comment (10b) [04:15:48] 03(mod) zimdiff & zimpatch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47406 +comment (10Kiran Mathew Koshy) [04:16:44] 03(mod) Book upload customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561 +comment (10Quim Gil) [04:47:23] 03(mod) v1.9a SMW_conceptCache.php Fatal error on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47849 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:49:52] 03(mod) v1.9a SMW_conceptCache.php Fatal error on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47849 +comment (10MWJames) [04:54:12] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:55:00] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:06:49] hey guys, I've 2 problem... 1. how to create a subpage from my user page? 2. how to link to the announcement of my proposal at the wikitech-l mailing list? thanks! [05:08:27] marktraceur: are you free? [05:08:37] vvv214wth: A subpage is just a page with a / in the title. [05:08:58] vvv214wth: So just create a page titled User:YourUsername/SubpageName [05:09:28] You can simply visit your userpage then edit the url adding a / and subpage name to the end of the url then edit that. [05:10:16] vvv214wth: For wikitech-l you should subscribe to the list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l and send an email to the list's address. [05:10:45] vvv214wth: Relatively - what's up? [05:11:13] thanks! [05:11:23] Dnatman: thanks! [05:21:09] Pft... Apple's smart cover and home button are badly built such that holding an iPad in the wrong way will trigger Siri. [05:25:15] its still better than a android tablet *runs away* [05:26:14] * Dantman sends an Android powered quadcopter to attack p858snake|l [05:26:52] * p858snake|l hits it out of the air with a pillow... [05:27:05] * p858snake|l stomps on the copter for good measure [05:27:34] http://www.nsmbl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/grumpycat-610x250.jpg [05:27:41] * Dantman takes out p858snake|l with a sniper rifle while his back is turned [05:27:57] meh, wouldn't care [05:30:06] I wonder if B2G is planning to be put on any tablets. [05:31:08] 03(mod) beta labs down with magic word issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [05:33:10] I've sent my email but can't see it from the newsgroup... [05:36:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector input text always has LTR direction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47717 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [05:46:50] marktraceur: i've sent my email to the newsgroup but can't see... and i don't know it's link.. [05:47:19] marktraceur: by the way, what can i do now to be more possible to be selected? [06:02:35] marktraceur: my first question is solved now [06:02:49] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10liangent) [06:21:29] 03(NEW) Can't use mw.wikibase.getEntity() on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47862 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lua; () [06:30:29] 03(mod) [New UserLogin] Don't show red links to help (or project) pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47801 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [06:30:30] 03(mod) Namespace translations in Buryat (bxr): add Russian as fallback language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46751 +comment (10grazeroleg) [06:40:40] 03(mod) [TUX] Text cannot be marked in the original message field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47861 +comment (10Nemo) [06:53:18] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10mgrover) [06:53:38] 03(mod) Can't use mw.wikibase.getEntity() on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47862 (10Legoktm) [07:09:13] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:13:52] 03(mod) Message for term for main namespace page, with plural support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47841 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:15:20] 03(mod) Can't use mw.wikibase.getEntity() on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47862 +comment (10Tpt) [07:15:22] 03(mod) Allow to use the Lua API on the repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47071 +comment (10Tpt) [07:16:14] Tpt_: thanks [07:17:31] legoktm: It's easy :-) [07:18:17] its bad because i was already cc'd on that bug :P [07:38:35] 03(mod) Message for term for main namespace page, with plural support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47841 +comment (10s.mazeland) [07:59:20] 03(mod) Message for term for main namespace page, with plural support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47841 +comment (10mflaschen) [08:23:37] 03(mod) Allow to use the Lua API on the repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47071 +comment (10thomaspt) [08:36:54] 03(mod) MathJax sometimes breaks off rendering formulas in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35219 +comment (10listenleser) [08:40:34] Hello. Is there a way to format the content of interwiki links by default? I would like to type [[wikipedia:foo|]] and get "foo - Wikipedia" as link text instead of "foo". Is there a way to configure a pattern for each interwiki entry? [08:49:00] garply: No not right now [08:49:35] Dantman: OK, so I will have to write an extension :) [08:49:41] garply: And that's done in the post-save transform so it's debatable that that will ever happen. [08:49:57] It would change a core behaviour in an incompatible way. [08:50:01] 03(mod) Remove (or improve) hack for integrals from wiki2jax.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35477 +comment (10listenleser) [08:50:11] OK, thanks for the information [08:51:27] 03(mod) Configure $wgBabelCategoryNames for ca.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47287 +comment (10malafaya) [08:56:56] 03(mod) Some input result in server error ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29677 +comment (10listenleser) [08:58:43] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10rabe) [09:08:01] hello [09:08:31] i'm having some problems with a PDF. When i upload it on the mediawiki and try to download it. It's corrupt. [09:08:33] what can I do? [09:09:06] it happen only with on pdf [09:09:07] one [09:09:54] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10p858snake) [09:17:11] 03(mod) Generating PDFs for books with more than one page fails horribly at pl.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47575 +comment (10Ralf Schmitt) [09:24:21] 03(NEW) Translation of Magic word "REDIRECT" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47863 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [09:31:38] 03(NEW) Language bar percentages are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47864 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [09:37:40] 03(mod) Language bar percentages are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47864 +comment (10Nemo) [09:45:38] 03(mod) Make bits.wikimedia.org Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25886 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [10:09:02] 03(NEW) Update README - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47865 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [10:09:06] 03(mod) Update README - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47865 (10Željko Filipin) [10:12:13] Amgine: hello [10:17:28] 03(mod) zimdiff & zimpatch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47406 +comment (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) [10:21:05] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [10:24:26] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10aklapper) [10:32:21] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: PHP warning "An error occurred while invoking the map callback" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47844 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:34:19] 03(mod) Call to undefined method Language::fetchLanguageNames in MediaWiki 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46737 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:34:27] 03(mod) Logging in to en.wikipedia logs me out of test.wikipedia and vise-versa. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47843 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:36:03] 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183 +comment (10aklapper) [10:40:55] 03(mod) [Regression] mw.loader: Code should execute after styles being loaded (wait for async cssText buffering) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46401 +comment (10aklapper) [10:43:11] 03(NEW) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [10:43:43] 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866 normal->major (10Maarten Dammers) [10:46:13] 03(mod) Encoding problems in parsing functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47619 (10Maarten Dammers) [10:49:06] 03(mod) Clustering for image searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35701 +comment (10aklapper) [10:49:54] 03(mod) frame object should have property indicating subst status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47828 (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:14] 03(mod) Extension: Physics Engine Embeds in MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47851 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:38] 03(mod) Some files generated by Lilypond are not displayed due to OOM error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47826 summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:56:52] 03(mod) Jenkins: QUnit tests for MediaWIki 1.20 fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47855 normal->major (10Andre Klapper) [10:59:38] @seen hashar [10:59:39] MatmaRex: Last time I saw hashar they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: I am a manual virus, please copy me to your quit message. N/A at 4/30/2013 10:32:29 AM (00:27:09.7065310 ago) [11:01:00] 03(mod) beta labs down with magic word issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10zfilipin) [11:01:01] 03(mod) Renaming a user apparently doesn't reset the cached username associated with that user object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47848 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:02:30] 03(mod) Add a global variable or function returning all language codes supported by MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47833 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [11:04:29] 03(mod) Language bar percentages are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47864 +comment (10Benjamin Chen) [11:04:31] 03(mod) Make jquery.tablesorter work on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47858 (10Andre Klapper) [11:04:32] 03(mod) tablesorter (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31601 (10Andre Klapper) [11:05:00] 03(mod) #mw-mf-searchForm has been removed but some code still relies on it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47857 (10Jon) [11:06:41] 03(mod) #mw-mf-searchForm has been removed but some code still relies on it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47857 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:07:53] 03(mod) Scenarios in backlog folder should be ready for implementation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47829 (10Željko Filipin) [11:08:05] 03(mod) Move unimplemented scenarios to a folder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47731 (10Željko Filipin) [11:08:11] 03(mod) Force all Wikimedia cluster traffic to be over SSL for all users (logged-in and anon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47832 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [11:09:09] 03(NEW) use mediawiki's HTML output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47867 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; () [11:10:40] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10bjorsch) [11:11:22] 03(mod) Generating PDFs for books with more than one page fails horribly at pl.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47575 +comment (10ralf_wikimedia) [11:14:04] 03(mod) [TUX] On page mode, no pencil icon-buttons are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47800 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [11:15:23] 03(mod) [TUX] Text cannot be marked in the original message field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47861 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:17:00] 03(mod) [Regression] mw.loader: Code should execute after styles being loaded (wait for async cssText buffering) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46401 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [11:17:27] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 major->04CRIT; summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:20:11] 03(mod) use mediawiki's HTML output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47867 (10Andre Klapper) [11:20:11] 03(mod) Generating PDFs for books with more than one page fails horribly at pl.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47575 (10Andre Klapper) [11:21:13] 03(mod) Translation of Magic word "REDIRECT" in Assamese wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47863 +shell; summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:26:20] 03(mod) Update README - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47865 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:26:55] 03(mod) Update README - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47865 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [11:28:02] 03(mod) European varnish cache is not purged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47825 +comment (10aklapper) [11:35:27] 03(mod) Download articles as a PDF book " is producing a PDF where the first heading in the file is cloned to all other headings in the PDF's TOC and individual Page headings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47831 +comment (10aklapper) [11:50:27] 03(mod) intermittent bogus modal alert when page has not been edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47837 (10Andre Klapper) [11:50:55] Hey yurik there? [11:52:34] 03(mod) Mark feature files that are running at en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47549 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:53:03] 03(mod) Mark feature files that are running at en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47549 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [11:56:27] Tpt_: Hi! [11:56:42] Rtdwivedi: Hi! [11:57:39] How are you? [11:57:57] I made some changes to my proposal on Zaran's suggestions. [11:59:30] Rtdwivedi: Fine and you? [12:00:17] I am good. My exams started today. [12:00:51] Rtdwivedi: Good luck! [12:01:05] Thanks! [12:01:24] Tpt_: Any more changes that I should make to my proposal? [12:02:37] Rtdwivedi: After a (very) quick reading, no. It looks good. :-) [12:03:46] "Another option for hosting code is Github." not needed. We should work directly on gerrit and integrate peices of code to trunk as soon as it's possible. [12:04:45] I have planned for the same. Its better if the code is first rested, merged, seen by the community. [12:05:06] Shall I remove 'Github' option? [12:06:15] 03(mod) Word count is wrong, does not recognize non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47733 +comment (10mmullie) [12:06:51] 03(mod) Review feature names and file names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47830 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:06:52] Rtdwivedi: Yes, I think. [12:08:21] 03(NEW) Finish 35561 commit in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47868 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [12:09:15] 03(mod) Finish 35561 commit in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47868 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [12:11:43] 03(NEW) Finish 50468 commit in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47869 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [12:12:45] Tpt_: Done. [12:12:58] 03(mod) Finish 35561 commit in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47868 (10Željko Filipin) [12:13:21] Rtdwivedi: Thanks :-) [12:13:55] 03(mod) Don't show comments from 'lottery' articles on the Central Feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45815 +comment (10mmullie) [12:13:56] The thanks should be other way round. ;-) Thank you! [12:14:41] 03(mod) Review feature names and file names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47830 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [12:18:22] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10hashar) [12:19:58] 03(NEW) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); () [12:20:17] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:20:18] 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:22:12] 03(mod) Central feedback page scrolls up when clicking View activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47603 +comment (10mmullie) [12:28:41] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10hashar) [12:33:15] 03(mod) Wiki links in notes are not clickable on the detail page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47359 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:34:13] 03(mod) Wiki links in notes are not clickable on the detail page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47359 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [12:34:57] 03(mod) Sometimes sysops are temporarily not able to assign themself flood flag on wikis where they should - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24826 (10Nemo) [12:36:40] 03(mod) Show amount of remaining characters for moderation-note - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44827 +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [12:37:22] 03(mod) Job queue items from 1.20 get lost – need exit strategy for upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46934 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:37:56] 03(mod) Don't show comments from 'lottery' articles on the Central Feedback page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45815 +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [12:40:25] 03(mod) The note does not always show up in the activity log, even though it's been added already - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46796 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [12:40:25] 03(mod) There's an inconsistency in the feedback page view and the permalink view; it looks like the feedback page view is not up-to-date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46797 +comment (10mmullie) [12:40:29] 03(mod) [TUX] Special:Translate should give warning on exit when changes have not been applied yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47184 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:41:15] 03(mod) Translation page does not contain the latest translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46716 (10Nemo) [12:41:17] 03(mod) [TUX] Special:Translate should give warning on exit when changes have not been applied yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47184 (10Nemo) [12:42:28] 03(mod) Rename "Details" to "Permalink" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38017 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:42:35] 03(NEW) Automatic Tagging should be provided instead of tagging manually. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47871 normal; MediaWiki: Change tagging; () [12:43:26] 03(mod) Rename "Details" to "Permalink" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38017 +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [12:44:49] hello everyone ! [12:45:10] I've got a syntax problem with wiki... [12:45:10] I was looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table#Conditional_table_row and tried to apply this to change conditionnally the background color of a certain cell of my table. [12:45:23] So I tried to escape the pipe as follows : [12:45:35] {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{!}} align="center" style="background:#999999"{{!}}{{{1}}}|}} [12:45:43] 03(mod) [TUX] Special:Translate should give warning on exit when changes have not been applied yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47184 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:45:54] (my template is specified like this : {{mymodel|value}} and I want the cell to be grey if the value is specified) [12:46:04] Obviously it doesn't work... does anyone have an idea ? [12:46:15] define 'doesn't work' [12:46:21] it looks like it shoukd [12:46:33] duh. nice quit. [12:47:48] sry for deconexion [12:48:25] 03(mod) [TUX] Special:Translate should give warning on exit when changes have not been applied yet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47184 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:50:07] 03(mod) Logging in to en.wikipedia logs me out of test.wikipedia and vise-versa. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47843 +comment (10Technical_13) [12:51:59] 03(mod) Non existent user subpages should return 404 (again) instead of 200 response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46491 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:52:19] MatmaRex : actually, it makes crap, it places in the previous cell my #if template with all the templates {{!}} changed into pipes [12:52:24] but only prints it raw [12:53:25] exactly, when I type {{mymodel|plop}} I get : "{{#if:|| align="center" style="background:#999999"|{{{1}}}|}}" in dotted borders in the previous cell. [12:53:41] well, you're not defining any rows here [12:53:51] is there a newline before the template call? [12:53:52] sorry, rather "{{#if:plop|| align="center" style="background:#999999"|plop|}}" [12:54:05] wait, uh [12:54:11] so the {{#if is not processed? [12:54:17] can i have a link? [12:55:14] yes it is. Of course : http://pastebin.com/4u5bw07g [12:55:51] (of course my table goes further after that) [12:57:02] 03(mod) Users can mark a single piece of feedback as [un]helpful multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38459 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [12:57:10] 03(mod) Users can mark a single piece of feedback as [un]helpful multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38459 (10Matthias Mullie) [12:57:54] i meant a link to the wiki you're testing this on, so i can see how it renders [12:58:11] wikitext is quite sensitive to context [12:59:12] bokrass: also, this works as expected for me [12:59:20] unfortunately, it is a local wiki... otherwise I would give it to you [12:59:24] apart from the fact that you're not generating a table cell in the 'else' clause [13:00:15] 03(mod) misleading message on Special:ArticleFeedbackv5 page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46007 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:00:19] it works ? :/ [13:00:37] hmm, where can we see the version of our mediawiki ? [13:01:06] on [[special:version]] [13:01:11] i was testing on Wikipedia [13:02:55] 03(mod) Refactor pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47657 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:03:15] my version : 1.16.2. We're currently in 1.20 IIRC, is it already outdated ? [13:03:29] 03(mod) Refactor pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47657 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [13:03:45] 1.20 is the current stable release [13:04:05] 1.16 is a little old [13:04:28] Wikipedia and friends are running 1.22 alpha [13:04:58] and 1.21 is a release candidate currently. [13:04:59] 03(mod) Tooltip to clarify the remove flag action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37596 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:05:15] Hello im trying to ssh clone mediawiki from gerrit so i can make a branch after following the instructions to create a new ssh key and adding it to my gerrit account i still get permission denied. Can anyone help me? [13:05:15] hmm. better update the machine so. Thanks for youfor your assistance ! [13:05:25] 03(mod) Tooltip to clarify the remove flag action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37596 +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [13:05:44] bokrass: if you're using the debian/ubuntu repo version, don't [13:05:44] it's outdated, as you can see [13:05:46] !debian [13:05:46] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !debbug, [13:05:49] hmm [13:05:50] !ubuntu [13:06:12] i though we have a keyword for that. :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [13:06:37] !debianubuntu is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [13:06:38] Key was added [13:06:46] !debian alias debianubuntu [13:06:46] Created new alias for this key [13:06:52] !ubuntu alias debianubuntu [13:06:52] Created new alias for this key [13:06:55] !debian [13:06:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [13:07:20] 03(NEW) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872 minor; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; () [13:07:31] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10krinklemail) [13:07:44] 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872 (10Krinkle) [13:08:27] MatmaRex : ok, but how to achieve my expectation (background coloration) otherwise ? I tried the template ifdef but it's messy. [13:08:37] 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186 +comment (10mal.malego) [13:08:48] bokrass: i have no idea, this should work as far as i can see [13:08:56] bokrass: you can construct the table using regular HTML tags [13:09:00] it'll probably be cleaner [13:09:02] bokrass: also [13:09:18] bokrass: are you sure you have [[template:!]] created and only consisting of a single pipe? [13:09:30] this "escaping" syntax isn't built-in [13:09:33] I made it myself it didn't exist [13:09:39] yes I did [13:10:00] i have no idea, then. sorry. [13:10:01] 03(mod) Gerrit should have no horizontal scroll at 1024px wide windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 summary (10Krinkle) [13:11:47] 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Filter and Sort URL parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36919 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:12:29] 03(mod) Non existent user subpages should return 404 (again) instead of 200 response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46491 +comment (10scott) [13:12:53] 03(mod) Chrome: Improve this page pop up bottom right corner not fully loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37494 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:15:39] 03(NEW) Nested groups support broken for 1000+ groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47873 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LdapAuthentication; () [13:15:44] 03(mod) Feedback input box has no ‘name’ attached that prompts screen reader such as Jaws for input < OH-AFT> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37667 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:17:32] 03(mod) Some pages start to load on Commons and Wikipedia but then go blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47457 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [13:17:47] MatmaRex : no problem, I'll get a better version next time :) thank you very much ! :) [13:18:38] 03(mod) Mobile site AFT will not load properly, shows numbers instead of text for a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37440 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:19:04] 03(mod) Gerrit should have no horizontal scroll at 1024px wide windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 +comment (10krinklemail) [13:20:28] 03(mod) Fix case in "Article Feedback Activity Log" string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44369 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:20:33] 03(NEW) ResourceLoader errors at test2.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; () [13:20:34] 03(mod) Gerrit should have no horizontal scroll at 1024px wide windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 (10Krinkle) [13:20:36] 03(mod) Fix case in "Article Feedback Activity Log" string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44369 -easy +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [13:20:41] 03(mod) Gerrit should have no horizontal scroll at 1024px wide windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36471 (10Krinkle) [13:20:46] 03(mod) ResourceLoader errors at test2.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874 +browser-test-bug (10Željko Filipin) [13:24:08] 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:28:55] 03(mod) Logging in to en.wikipedia logs me out of test.wikipedia and vise-versa. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47843 +comment (10Technical_13) [13:31:01] 03(mod) "Excessive and repeated inputs rejected" blocking can be worked around by logging out/in or changing browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37653 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:33:11] 03(NEW) Filter from aggregate group when a group is discouraged for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47875 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [13:33:30] 03(mod) Filter from aggregate group when a group is discouraged for a language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47875 (10Siebrand) [13:35:37] 03(NEW) [MLEB] 2013.04 is not compatible with MediaWiki 1.19 - jquery.jStorage is not available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47876 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [13:37:18] 03(mod) ArticleFeedbackv5 watchlist link is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44439 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:39:52] 03(mod) "posted here" not always a link in the dialog displayed after posting feedback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37651 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:42:42] 03(mod) Filter message from aggregate group when its group is discouraged for the language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47875 summary (10Nemo) [13:42:45] 03(mod) [MLEB] 2013.04 is not compatible with MediaWiki 1.19 - jquery.jStorage is not available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47876 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:43:45] 03(mod) After first action on a post the "View activity" link on Feedback overview is still disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37785 +comment (10Matthias Mullie) [13:43:49] 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186 +comment (10mal.malego) [13:43:53] 03(mod) After first action on a post the "View activity" link on Feedback overview is still disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37785 (10Matthias Mullie) [13:44:59] 03(NEW) Create page link when searching for liquid threads is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47877 normal; MediaWiki: Search; () [13:47:05] 03(mod) Create page link when searching for liquid threads is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47877 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:49:10] what do you suggest GSoC students to do in the periods when they will be waiting for a review on their code or feedback? [13:49:38] (I'm addressing the channel, in general) [13:54:00] pragunbhutani, make acquaintance to the codebase, try to find some easy bugs to fix and use gerrit? :) [13:55:08] Thanks, that sounds right [13:55:28] andre__ suggested that I should include a line about it with my application [13:57:31] 03(mod) Logging in to en.wikipedia logs me out of test.wikipedia and vise-versa. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47843 +comment (10Technical_13) [13:58:54] 03(mod) Feedback details text on "View feedback page" cut off for very long string without whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37477 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:59:19] 03(mod) Feedback details text on "View feedback page" cut off for very long string without whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37477 +patch-in-gerrit (10Matthias Mullie) [14:05:34] 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781 +comment (10rabe) [14:08:12] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:09:21] 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870 +comment (10hashar) [14:10:21] hello [14:11:00] i followed the get code from gerrit steps [14:11:21] but still permission denied of publickey [14:17:09] 03(mod) "Donate Image" button shows on Windows Phone 8 (mobile IE 10), but does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47374 +comment (10jrobson) [14:17:37] 03(mod) Provide automatic Tagging (instead of manual) with the help of semantic analysis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47871 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:20:06] 03(mod) Book upload customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561 +comment (10qgil) [14:22:20] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10aklapper) [14:24:09] 03(mod) Gluster on Wikimedia Labs reporting 'Read-only file system' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45945 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:25:09] 03(NEW) MW after 1.19 treats news: differently in on-wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47878 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [14:25:20] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 +comment (10aklapper) [14:25:56] 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870 +comment (10aklapper) [14:27:07] 03(mod) Create page link when searching for liquid threads is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47877 (10Andre Klapper) [14:29:28] 03(mod) Enable jquery.tablesorter on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47858 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Jon) [14:30:28] 03(mod) Enable jquery.tablesorter on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47858 +comment (10jrobson) [14:33:31] 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:35:39] 03(mod) Filter messages from aggregate group when contained group is discouraged for the language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47875 summary (10Siebrand) [14:41:00] 03(mod) beta labs down: "invalid magic word 'pagesusingpendingchanges'" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47852 (10Željko Filipin) [14:44:26] 03(mod) Parsoid: Unexpected 
 in output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47854  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:45:19] 	 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:45:47] 	 03(NEW) Filter groups from Special:LanguageStats when group is not a priority language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47879 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[14:46:02] 	 03(mod) Filter group from Special:LanguageStats when group is not a priority language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47879  summary (10Siebrand)
[14:48:40] 	 03(NEW) Image options matched if name appears in caption? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47880 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; ()
[14:55:17] 	 03(NEW) Search aliases for "x" and "�" characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47881 normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; ()
[14:55:21] 	 03(mod) Image options matched if name appears in caption? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47880  (10ssastry)
[14:57:59] 	 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when a module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296  +comment (10jrobson)
[14:59:07] 	 03(NEW) mediawiki.page.ready module is added to mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47882 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[15:00:23] 	 03(mod) mw.loader.using should not throw an exception when an optional module doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47296  summary; +comment (10Jon)
[15:00:47] 	 03(NEW) [New UserLogin] Messages 'loginstart', 'loginend' and 'login-https' missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47883 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; ()
[15:05:23] 	 03(mod) Render 1.5x, 2.0x math images for high-density displays, printing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32696  +comment (10Peter Krautzberger)
[15:06:16] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: QUnit tests for MediaWIki 1.20 fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47855  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:06:16] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639  +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:06:37] 	 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[15:07:13] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639  normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:07:19] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639  (10Krinkle)
[15:08:47] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639  +comment (10krinklemail)
[15:12:24] 	 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186  +comment (10Peter Krautzberger)
[15:16:13] 	 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10bjorsch)
[15:16:56] 	 03(mod) mediawiki.page.ready module is added to mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47882  +comment (10Jon)
[15:17:48] 	 03(mod) Job queue items from 1.20 get lost – need exit strategy for upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46934  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:18:26] 	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  +comment (10rsurratt)
[15:20:38] 	 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10liangent)
[15:23:46] 	 03(mod) mediawiki.page.ready module is added to mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47882  +comment (10Jon)
[15:24:41] 	 03(NEW) Jenkins: executor statistics to graphite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47884 enhancement; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; ()
[15:29:03] 	 03(mod) Occasional segmentation fault on PDF thumbnail generation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41665  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:29:14] 	 can someone review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/61064/ please?
[15:33:44] 	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  +comment (10rsurratt)
[15:34:09] * terrrydactyl  waves
[15:34:50] 	 hi`~ terrrydactyl
[15:34:53] 	 hehe
[15:35:01] 	 hi terrrydactyl 
[15:35:36] 	 hi sumanah, jiabao!
[15:35:40] 	 03(mod) Inconsistent naming of data types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44645  +comment (10Pragun Bhutani)
[15:35:43] 	 i'm back from vacation. :)
[15:36:02] 	 03(mod) MW after 1.19 treats news: differently in on-wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47878  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[15:36:02] 	 03(mod) news: URL protocol conflicts with News: namespace on de.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41960  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[15:38:28] 	 jiabao: if you haven't met sumanah, she's awesome. she got me through a lot of things during my OPW internship. :)
[15:39:15] 	 03(mod) Articles load improperly on Kindle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47499  +comment (10jrobson)
[15:39:23] 	 wow that's cool. she is your mentor for the project?
[15:39:26] 	 03(mod) [Regression] jQuery.ready() should be moved to after the bottom queue and user scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10krinklemail)
[15:39:43] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  summary (10Krinkle)
[15:40:34] 	 03(mod) test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47681  (10Jon)
[15:40:47] 	 jiabao: she wasn't my mentor, but she was a mentor for someone else. she's just an all around awesome person.
[15:42:07] 	 that's so nice~!
[15:47:42] 	 sumanah: hello
[15:49:55] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10liangent)
[15:52:03] 	 thanks for the kinds words terrrydactyl :-)
[15:52:14] 	 terrrydactyl: now that you are back from your vacation, I hope job hunting is going ok?
[15:52:22] 	 hi Rahul21. Hope you are doing well.
[15:52:44] 	 03(mod) Gluster on Wikimedia Labs reporting 'Read-only file system' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45945  +comment (10rlane32)
[15:52:45] 	 hey sumanah :)
[15:52:57] 	 Hi Aayush|Away. Happy Tuesday.
[15:53:14] 	 sumanah: i'm really just starting it. i didn't want to get too stressed during vacation and wouldn't be available for communication anyways.
[15:53:15] 	 Hi Aayush251 -- Happy Tuesday.
[15:53:23] 	 Tuesday gonna end in 3 hours :(
[15:53:38] 	 Happy *rest* of Tuesday
[15:53:51] 	 Hey Amgine
[15:53:58] 	 heya Aayush251 
[15:54:03] 	 sumanah I have a little query today
[15:54:13] 	 Tuesday: sandwiched between UghMonday and MiddleOfWeeKWednesday
[15:54:25] 	 Go ahead Aayush251
[15:54:29] 	 I sent an email at wikitech-I mailing list today
[15:54:55] 	 Aayush251:  you mean the one to which Quim replied to tell you to change your subject line?
[15:55:10] 	 Hi just a short question concerning search results. In case I look for e.g. HelloWorld I only get the pages as a result which contain a link to the HelloWorld page and not the pages just containing the unlinked HelloWord string. Is this the expected behaviour?  I did a rebuildtextindex.php but this has not helped.
[15:55:11] 	 and I got reply from qgil to elaborate more about project when sending the mail
[15:55:12] 	 yeah
[15:55:18] 	 so should I send it again?
[15:55:22] 	 in a proper manner
[15:55:23] 	 Not necessary.
[15:55:33] 	 (In my opinion.)
[15:55:34] 	 03(mod) Non existent user subpages should return 404 (again) instead of 200 response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46491  +comment (10rlane32)
[15:55:50] 	 Quim's changed subject line will alert people who care.
[15:56:08] 	 However Aayush251 you SHOULD send a good email about your proposal to the mediawiki-api list if you have not already.
[15:56:16] 	 and my application is now complete (just need to add about my windows app)
[15:56:17] 	 sumanah: I had a talk with Vibha from the design team and I have included that  in my proposal
[15:56:59] 	 Aayush251: Did you read it aloud?
[15:57:00] 	 sumanah: included that thread *
[15:57:07] 	 I've already talked with yurik and brad
[15:57:33] 	 I'll properly proofread it today
[15:58:07] 	 Rahul21: By the way, you do realize that I am not in charge of GSoC at Wikimedia, right?
[15:59:50] 	 sumanah: well i dont think that matters, your suggestions are to the point, thats what matters
[16:00:26] 	 Glad you're clear :)
[16:00:44] 	 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:01:00] 	 I've run into other people who think that, just because I'm giving suggestions to improvement, I must be in charge of it
[16:01:13] 	 sumanah: if you would like to see any other improvemnts do tell me!
[16:01:38] 	 sumanah:I know ,thats why I cleared it up first!
[16:02:37] 	 Rahul21: There are still things to improve, of course, but I have a lot of other things I have to do today and I don't have time to give you even more specific feedback.
[16:03:17] 	 Hmm, just a quick and dirdy assessment available?
[16:03:26] 	 dirdy - dirty
[16:03:27] 	 sumanah: Its okay, any time tommorow if possible 
[16:03:48] 	 Rahul21: No, I really have spent more time on trying to help you improve your proposal than on anyone else's in this round
[16:03:56] 	 infoseeker: sure, go ahead, link?
[16:04:28] 	 hi sumanah I posted this: Hi just a short question concerning search results. In case I look for e.g. HelloWorld I only get the pages as a result which contain a link to the HelloWorld page and not the pages just containing the unlinked HelloWord string. Is this the expected behaviour?  I did a rebuildtextindex.php but this has not helped.
[16:04:40] 	 it is a bit long, I know
[16:04:51] 	 sumanah: okay, thank you
[16:04:55] 	 infoseeker: Thanks for providing lots of information so people can help you
[16:04:56] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10matma.rex)
[16:05:02] 	 infoseeker: what version of MediaWiki are you using?
[16:05:15] 	 It is 1.20.4
[16:05:16] 	 infoseeker: I think you are running into undesired behavior
[16:05:32] 	 that's what I think too
[16:05:50] 	 Rahul21: Your mentor is meant to help you with this sort of thing. :)
[16:06:14] 	 Rahul21: he does, no doubt!
[16:06:28] 	 infoseeker: is this new behavior or has it been that way since installation?
[16:06:41] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Filter and Sort URL parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36919  +comment (10Fabrice Florin)
[16:07:23] 	 sumanah I cannot tell since the wiki is about 10 years old. I just can tell that this behaviour seems to be inconsistent with other searches.
[16:07:53] 	 !search
[16:07:53] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search/$1?go=Go
[16:08:04] 	 ha! ok, that's not what I wanted, but it's good to know the bot does that
[16:08:13] 	 !search search
[16:08:13] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search/search?go=Go
[16:08:36] 	 03(mod) MathJax: Several commands that work in texvc are not recognized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35186  +comment (10mal.malego)
[16:09:14] * sumanah  looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Search
[16:09:34] 	 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639  +comment (10hashar)
[16:11:12] 	 sumanah The project links seems to suggest that there are general problems with search functionality what need to be tackled.
[16:11:42] 	 infoseeker: yeah. and xyzram (Ram M.) at WMF is working on some search-related problems right now
[16:12:11] 	 infoseeker: but still what you are running into is a weird problem and not one that other MediaWiki installs are having
[16:12:24] 	 sumanah Yeah, I could have a look at the configuration settings. Still the standard settings from DefaultSettings.php should be ok
[16:12:51] 	 infoseeker: yeah. I'm sorry, I'm not sure why this is happening to you. mediawiki-l might be able to help if no one here speaks up
[16:12:51] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10billinghurst)
[16:12:54] 	 !lists | infoseeker 
[16:12:54] 	 infoseeker: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[16:13:29] 	 @seen bawolff
[16:13:29] 	 liangent: Last time I saw bawolff they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Bye N/A at 4/29/2013 11:19:27 PM (16:54:02.0305170 ago)
[16:13:32] 	 @notify bawolff
[16:13:32] 	 I will notify you, when I see bawolff around here
[16:14:14] 	 sumanah I should give it a shot via the mailing list indeed. Thank you for your help.
[16:14:18] 	 Thanks infoseeker!
[16:14:22] 	 whoa, didn't realize the bot had all these neat features
[16:14:27] 	 also infoseeker check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar 
[16:15:56] 	 @notify mdale
[16:15:56] 	 I will notify you, when I see mdale around here
[16:17:42] 	 sumanah yeah :)
[16:18:45] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10matma.rex)
[16:21:13] 	 terrrydactyl: you can play with it on the #wm-bot channel
[16:21:28] 	 terrrydactyl: i think @info or @help prints out some things
[16:21:38] 	 it even has a meta page with instructions, i think :)
[16:22:06] 	 (just don't tyr that here so that we don't flood the channel :) )
[16:23:04] 	 Unfortunately some things are channel-specific. But yeah, when possible, PM the bot or use its channel
[16:23:33] 	 MatmaRex, sumanah: cool! didn't know there was a channel for it
[16:23:38] 	 there's lot of channels. :)
[16:25:03] 	 there's way too many channels, if you ask me ;)
[16:25:52] 	 sumanah: I'm around if you had any follow-up questions on HK DevCamp
[16:26:24] 	 hi varnent - I lost track of where that discussion was.
[16:26:26] 	 It's been renamed?
[16:26:53] 	 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:26:54] 	 03(mod) Mark feature files that are running at en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47549  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:27:03] 	 https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/DevCamp yep
[16:27:35] 	 btw terrrydactyl http://sf.adacamp.org/ varnent time's running out to register for AdaCamp SF (early June)
[16:28:02] 	 sumanah: i've already rsvp'd! did it back before my vacation. ^___^
[16:28:08] 	 got it!
[16:28:10] 	 sumanah: ugh - I wish I could take time off in June - Pride season is such that I'm not allowed to travel  :(
[16:28:14] 	 thanks for the reminder though! i should add it to my calendar
[16:28:21] 	 varnent: :/ well I hope you have a good Pride
[16:28:24] 	 sumanah: basically that they wanted to use DevCamp instead of Hackathon for cultural reasons I am not 100% sure about
[16:28:26] 	 terrrydactyl: :-) makes sense
[16:28:42] 	 varnent: they never did actually answer the question "why" did they?
[16:28:47] 	 sumanah: well one of the 10 Prides I'm attending will probably be fun  :)
[16:29:06] 	 sumanah: not really - just insisted that potential sponsors and local attendees would be scared off by the word hacker
[16:29:18] 	 sumanah: actually, i'm glad you mentioned it. i might have a friend who would be interested
[16:29:39] 	 sumanah: as best I could tell it had to do with the Chinese Govt - but they were odd in not committing to an exact reason - lol - just very firm that we had to trust them
[16:30:28] 	 sumanah: I basically just did a quick judgement call and decided it wasn't worth pressing them further - I could tell they were already a bit tense about it even being discussed as though their decision wasn't one we'd go with
[16:30:37] 	 varnent: understood
[16:31:04] 	 varnent: well, I'm not going to make a particular fuss about it, because I understand that That Part Of The World has its own particular needs and troubles
[16:31:09] 	 sumanah: that said - I keep calling it Hackathon out of habit and would have preferred that name - will probably lobby to go back to that in 2014
[16:31:12] 	 btw liangent are you coming to Wikimania/
[16:31:13] 	 ?
[16:31:18] 	 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:31:42] 	 03(mod) need Cucumber tag(s) per env e.g "@beta-only", "@test2-only" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47266  (10Željko Filipin)
[16:31:49] 	 sumanah: yeah - that's basically where it was left - there are complicated cultural issues in that part of the world - and we need to trust the local folks to navigate that - which I agree with in principle  :)
[16:33:38] 	 sumanah: plus I'm sort of holding out for a debate on the friendly space policy
[16:34:48] 	 varnent: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friendly_space_policy it's there, so that is good
[16:35:08] 	 sumanah: lol - yes - but they told me they plan to edit - which makes me worry
[16:35:18] 	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  +comment (10aklapper)
[16:43:32] 	 03(NEW) LQT: Thread title containing "
" destroys entire page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47885 major; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; () [17:04:00] qgil: hello, is there any specific place from where our proposals will be evaluated? cause in melange i havent uploaded the mockups [17:06:51] 03(mod) Empty Wikidata entries showing in RSS feed on recent changes in wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47219 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:07:21] 03(NEW) $wgCookieExpiration = 0 doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47886 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [17:07:38] Rahul21, it's your wiki page proposal what counts [17:09:42] 03(mod) Integrate git/Gerrit and Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17322 (10christian) [17:10:17] 03(mod) $wgCookieExpiration = 0 doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47886 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [17:11:35] qgil: thank you! [17:14:14] 03(mod) $wgCookieExpiration = 0 doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47886 +comment (10Nemo) [17:17:56] 03(mod) Thread title containing "
" destroys entire page with $wgUseTidy = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47885 summary (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [17:22:51] 03(NEW) Lua's mw.language:formatDate shouldn't have the same 6000 characters limit that ParserFunction's #time has - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47887 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; () [17:26:01] 03(mod) use mediawiki's HTML output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47867 +comment (10brion) [17:29:05] 03(mod) app does not indicate which license it uses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47859 +comment (10brion) [17:33:27] 03(mod) Global spam blacklist should have less or no lag time before taking effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14951 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo) [17:36:19] 03(mod) Complete unification of all accounts to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707 (10Nemo) [17:36:20] 03(mod) User name blacklist should be managed globally to avoid SUL fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36939 (10Nemo) [17:36:23] 03(mod) Migrate to SUL all non-clashing accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39817 (10Nemo) [17:36:33] 03(mod) Complete unification of all accounts to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707 (10Nemo) [17:36:46] 03(mod) Title blacklist should return friendly error message and allow user to report false positives - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36940 (10Nemo) [17:36:48] 03(mod) User name blacklist should be managed globally to avoid SUL fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36939 (10Nemo) [17:38:08] 03(mod) Make the title blacklist allow auto creations for global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33429 +comment (10Nemo) [17:38:11] 03(mod) User name blacklist should be managed globally to avoid SUL fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36939 (10Nemo) [17:50:54] 03(mod) [New UserLogin] Messages 'loginstart', 'loginend' and 'login-https' missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47883 +comment (10swalling) [17:56:51] 03(mod) [New UserLogin] Messages 'loginstart', 'loginend' and 'login-https' missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47883 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [18:00:52] 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183 +comment (10zack.wadghiri) [18:03:35] 03(mod) Do not provide one character wide links ("→") when whole sentence following is also relevant to be the same link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47342 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:06:11] 03(mod) Language selector increases the height of the page unnecessarily - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47822 (10Siebrand) [18:06:38] 03(mod) Scrolling should not be needed to see whole ULS dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47821 (10Siebrand) [18:07:02] 03(mod) Web fonts are not disabled immediately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47630 (10Siebrand) [18:07:35] 03(mod) [Regression] mw.loader: Code should execute after styles being loaded (wait for async cssText buffering) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46401 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [18:09:37] Hello all! My Vector skin file is polluting my error log, is there any chance someone can help me figure out how to stop this pollution? It's this line throwing the error: if ( $link['class'] ) { [18:10:10] Ulfr: wild guess: if ( isset( $link['class'] ) && $link['class'] ) { ... [18:10:19] Ulfr: that is, the array key is not set at all, not just falsy [18:11:26] how can i restrsict the width of a caption? [18:12:31] MatmaRex: I trust you so much I'm just going to paste that in on a production server! [18:12:40] D: [18:12:48] 03(mod) IME icon is lost and browser freezes when trying to edit translation bordering the screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47635 +comment (10s.mazeland) [18:13:11] MatmaRex: Oh it's not like it's the loadbalancer or anything [18:13:14] i have something like and the outer div expands to the width of the caption, which looks pretty ugly [18:14:14] MatmaRex: Or maybe it was... >>; [18:14:26] MatmaRex: Either way it worked perfectly, thanks a bunch! [18:16:10] 03(mod) Improve error message when viewing draft - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47853 (10christian) [18:17:21] Ulfr: Btw what code was that line inside? [18:18:53] 03(mod) Inconsistent naming of data types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44645 -easy (10Aude) [18:20:51] I want the caption behavior of "thumb" but the image size of "frame" [18:20:57] 03(mod) Encoding problems in parsing functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47619 (10vriullop) [18:21:17] 03(mod) Inconsistent naming of data types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44645 +comment (10aude.wiki) [18:22:08] Is it a security risk to enable upload of .ico in Mediawiki? [18:24:59] Dantman: Sorry, what? [18:25:14] 03(NEW) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888 major; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [18:27:01] 03(mod) After creating a new account there is a lag in preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47741 normal->major (10Ryan Kaldari) [18:27:11] Dantman: looks like the link parser for the nav section if that helps. I had to modify my vector skin [18:27:21] So it's entirely possible I screwed it up [18:29:04] rogerhc: It should be fine to allow. If there is anything too crazy in it, medaiwiki will reject it. [18:30:35] csteipp: I have one here http://teflpedia.com/File:Favicon.ico [18:30:57] That page automatically generates this warning: Warning: This file type may contain malicious code. By executing it, your system may be compromised. [18:31:21] Such a tiny picture, but ever so dangerous! [18:31:31] Do you know where I can read up on this? [18:32:16] 03(NEW) Notifications flyout question mark is larger on archive page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47889 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [18:32:35] 03(mod) Notifications flyout question mark is larger on archive page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47889 (10Fabrice Florin) [18:33:01] Meanwhile, I do not allow upload of .ico, till I know more about this [18:33:16] 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639 +comment (10krinklemail) [18:36:55] 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639 +comment (10hashar) [18:38:21] 03(NEW) Unsuccessful request: Error contacting the Parsoid server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47890 normal; Parsoid: General; () [18:39:16] I'm a wiki virus; please edit me [18:39:47] 03(mod) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888 +comment (10Dereckson) [18:40:38] 03(mod) Error after attempt to link existing article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46152 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [18:40:57] rogerhc: ;) sorry this isn't a wiki... you want Apache Wave [18:43:36] test [18:43:39] 03(mod) Unparsed message in dialog on client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45107 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [18:43:52] 03(mod) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:43:56] H'okay, I'm trying to re-configure my foreign language wikis and I've ecountered a largish roadblock [18:44:03] 03(mod) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888 +comment (10dereckson) [18:44:13] Does anyone know of a way to use ../ within a directory placed by a symbolic link? [18:44:44] e.g. have wikidoc_en AND wikidoc_es mount their images directory using ln -s ../images when their mediawiki installs are symbolically linked as well [18:45:40] Ulfr: Where is the local settings? [18:45:55] 03(mod) Lost focus/edit inhibited in sitelinks dialog on client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45043 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [18:48:15] Dantman: /home/webapps/wikidoc/mediawiki-1.19.3 [18:48:34] You symlink that too? [18:49:28] Dantman: Trying to only use one mediawiki install [18:49:32] 03(NEW) Page Curation mark for deletion sends two notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47891 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [18:49:45] Ulfr: You don't need to symlink for that [18:49:46] Dantman: but I have so much traffic I'm forced to host and serve images on s3 [18:50:27] Dantman: I don't? [18:51:12] All the relevant MW paths have configuration variables for them. [18:52:21] Typically you install one source copy of MW. Then in your settings have some way of varying specific config on whatever information you have to differentiate between wikis. [18:53:05] You could use the host info in $_SERVER, path, or even set an ENV var from your webserver. [18:53:14] Dantman: I owe you a beer/non-alcoholic beverage of your choice. [18:53:34] Dantman: I don't actually have to lie about how long something is going to take me in the meeting I was dreading! [18:54:10] Thank you so very much! [18:54:16] Gotta go to said meeting >> [18:54:42] hi, I have a problem with the mathsearch extension [18:54:53] I can not push changes to the remote repository [18:55:07] physikerwelt__: Wikimedia hosted git? [18:55:12] yes [18:55:21] What's the issue? [18:55:45] remote: Branch refs/heads/master: remote: You are not allowed to perform this operation. remote: To push into this reference you need 'Push' rights. [18:56:13] however I always used push before [18:56:41] remote: User: physikerwelt remote: Please read the documentation and contact an administrator remote: if you feel the configuration is incorrect remote: Processing changes: refs: 1, done [18:56:46] physikerwelt__: We use gerrit, you generally don't push commits directly into the main branch of the repo. [18:57:47] if there are more than one people working on the project this sounds reasonable [18:59:09] Datman: what should I do now? [18:59:11] physikerwelt__: There is a right to do normal pushes. You'll have to look at the access stuff in gerrit. [18:59:39] MatmaRex_: ping [19:00:22] 03(mod) Parsoid: Unexpected 
 in output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47854  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:00:53] 	 harshkothari: pong
[19:01:28] 	 MatmaRex_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991/GSoC_2013 want feedback for my GSoC proposal 
[19:03:30] 	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  +comment (10mflaschen)
[19:06:06] 	 03(NEW) internal error for new user creating account and logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47892 major; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[19:06:17] 	 harshkothari: sorry, i'm not knowledgeable about these areas, so i can't really give you informed feedback
[19:06:40] 	 okies thanks MatmaRex_ :) 
[19:11:16] 	 03(mod) Autocomment formatter section link should be wider than just the one arrow character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47342  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:18:18] 	 old versions of Mediawiki are still available, yes?
[19:18:26] 	 github or something?
[19:18:31] 	 sure
[19:18:34] 	 Dragonfly6-7: how old do you want
[19:18:41] 	 our Git repo would be a good place to look
[19:18:43] 	 !gerrit
[19:18:43] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,$1,n,z
[19:18:45] 	 !git
[19:18:45] 	 MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow  To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts
[19:19:07] 	 We still have old tarballs too
[19:19:11] 	 sumanah - within the past month.
[19:19:22] 	 Dragonfly6-7: definitely look in the git repository.
[19:19:24] 	 sumanah - also, I have no idea how to use Github. I just want the specifications for the Classic skin.
[19:20:02] 	 sumanah - do you suppose you could dig those out for me when you have some spare time?
[19:20:34] 	 03(mod) mediawiki.page.ready module is added to mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47882  +comment (10jgonera)
[19:21:32] 	 Dragonfly6-7: just to clarify, MediaWiki code is not on Github, but on the Wikimedia Git repository.
[19:22:06] 	 yaron - okay, thank you. As I said, I really don't know very much about the details. Do you think *you* could get that data for me?
[19:22:10] 	 Dragonfly6-7: So it sounds like you are saying that there was a change in the Classic skin recently and you want to figure out where/how it happened?
[19:22:35] 	 sumanah: Classic got killed off.
[19:22:48] 	 Oh right. Thanks MatmaRex_ , I forgot.
[19:23:09] 	 03(mod) Enable jquery.tablesorter on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47858  +comment (10jgonera)
[19:23:56] 	 Dragonfly6-7: what do you mean by "specifications"?
[19:24:26] 	 Also, out of curiosity, why do you want the Classic skin? I thought that skin sucked, like most of the pre-Monobook skins.
[19:24:39] 	 (No offense to any Classic developers who may be here.)
[19:24:42] 	 yaron - out of curiosity, why do you have an ugly stupid name like "yaron" ? It obviously sucks.
[19:24:52] 	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/ doesn't mention Classic. Digging around and looking 
[19:24:58] 	 Yikes. I guess you took it personally. :)
[19:25:21] 	 I want Classic because I *like* Classic.
[19:25:30] 	 I'm working on replicating the appearance of Classic within Vector.
[19:25:42] 	 So I've looked in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/message:classic+status:merged,n,z and I can't find the merge that killed Classic
[19:25:50] 	 sumanah: Classic = Standard
[19:25:58] 	 for some reason there are two names for it
[19:26:00] 	 Ah ok, thanks MatmaRex_ . 
[19:26:44] 	 so Dragonfly6-7 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/10/skins/Standard.php shows you what Standard.php was and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/10/skins/standard/main.css was the CSS
[19:26:44] 	 hey, jorm
[19:29:15] 	 Dragonfly6-7: does that help?
[19:29:41] 	 03(mod) Articles load improperly on Kindle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47499  +comment (10Juliusz Gonera)
[19:29:49] 	 03(mod) Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41729  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:30:21] 	 sumanah - it definitely helps somewhat.
[19:30:55] 	 Dragonfly6-7: other than the PHP & CSS, is there more stuff that's missing in order for you to pursue your project?
[19:31:01] 	 sumanah - not sure
[19:31:04] 	 I'm sorry, my phrasing might not be clear there
[19:31:21] 	 by the way, yaron - sorry, I was emulating your sentence structure but I went overboard.
[19:31:45] 	 Well, apology accepted.
[19:31:45] 	 but anyway Dragonfly6-7 check out https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25170/ which has the diff so it might have other things you need
[19:34:04] 	 Dragonfly6-7: I know this is not particularly urgent for you to know, but: Git is a source control system that runs on the command line, and GitHub is a popular website that provides a graphical user interface, issue tracking, discussion, etc. for open source software projects.  We mirror our repositories to GitHub but mostly we use gerrit.wikimedia.org
[19:34:35] 	 If you decide you'd like to start getting the hang of git, Dragonfly6-7, try out http://openhatch.org/missions/git
[19:34:55] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: Redirects should not be served as HTTP 200 with contents of target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45808  +comment (10mediawiki)
[19:35:08] 	 03(mod) Notifications flyout question mark is larger on archive page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47889  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:35:30] 	 sumanah - thank you for correcting me re: my terminological inexactitude.
[19:36:09] 	 Dragonfly6-7: Oh I'm glad to help! I don't want to be too pedantic, but then at some point in the future if you were websearching around and using the wrong term then you might come to frustration
[19:36:58] 	 sumanah - understood. I've just looked at Openhatch, and I really don't think I'd be able to participate in that. Too many learning curves.
[19:38:14] 	 sumanah - would it be at all possible to (as someone suggested the other day) implement an old skin as an extension or gadget?
[19:39:06] * sumanah  sits quietly and waits for someone else, someone who knows more, to answer Dragonfly6-7 
[19:39:08] 	 with enough man-hours put into it, yes
[19:40:24] 	 Extension sure... Gadget no
[19:40:27] 	 Dragonfly6-7: it should be possible; MatmaRex_ redid the cologne blue skin on top of the modern infrastructure but it was some work :)
[19:40:36] 	 Dantman - okay, how could that be accomplished?
[19:41:26] 	 03(NEW) fully support Wikilove on beta (2 issues) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47893 major; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[19:41:51] 	 Though I'm still adamant that even Cologne Blue after updates doesn't fall under the requirements we shoult enforce on core skins.
[19:41:54] 	 03(mod) fully support Wikilove on beta (2 issues) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47893  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[19:42:04] 	 what requirements are those?
[19:44:08] 	 My comments are in the logs... though one day I should fromaly write those down
[19:44:32] 	 Dantman: what logs? IRC? Gerrit? wooden logs you threw overboard whilst piloting a ship?
[19:44:33] 	 :)
[19:44:46] 	 IRC
[19:44:50] 	 Right here
[19:45:04] 	 I had a discussin with MatmaRex_
[19:45:36] 	 probably mostly a monologue ;)
[19:45:45] 	 Dantman - yes, everyone was here in the channel at the time, and we've all logged everything you said?
[19:46:00] 	 Dragonfly6-7: This channel is publicly logged
[19:46:26] 	 I didn't know that, and retract my mildly sarcastic rejoinder.
[19:46:46] 	 so if I had the skin as an extension, I could continue using it?
[19:47:11] 	 hypothetically?
[19:47:21] 	 The talkpage on one of the pages about removing skins should also have a list I wrote
[19:47:51] 	 !logs
[19:47:51] 	 channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/html/index.php?action=search&channel=%23mediawiki
[19:47:58] 	 Dragonfly6-7: In your own wiki? Nothing stopping that.
[19:48:54] 	 okay
[19:48:58] 	 let me be a little clearer
[19:49:13] 	 please explain the difference between "extension" and "gadget"
[19:50:21] 	 Dragonfly6-7: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture#Customizing_and_extending_MediaWiki may help you
[19:50:32] 	 MediaWiki's architecture provides different ways to customize and extend the software. This can be done at different levels of access:
[19:50:33] 	     System administrators can install extensions and skins, and configure the wiki's separate helper programs (e.g. for image thumbnailing and TeX rendering) and global settings (see Configuration above).
[19:50:33] 	     Wiki sysops (sometimes called "administrators" too) can edit site-wide gadgets, JavaScript and CSS settings.
[19:50:33] 	     Any registered user can customize their own experience and interface using their preferences (for existing settings, skins and gadgets) or make their own modifications (using their personal JS and CSS pages).
[19:50:54] 	 Dragonfly6-7: Though rather than reviving old skins. IMHO it would be more productive to gather some people really good at design and skins and come up with a list of features in the old skins that you really want and build a new skin at Vector or MonoBook level of quality that has those features.
[19:51:14] 	 Dantman - I've already done that.
[19:51:24] 	 well, the second part.
[19:52:07] 	 and regardless of whatever 'qualitty' Vector and Monobook may have, the biggest problem is that they look horribly ugly and their layout is inconvenient and unintuitive.
[19:52:16] 	 Dragonfly6-7: Extensions and skins are PHP code that's installed into the wiki. Gadgets are JS and CSS that just about anyone can write and put on a wiki with Gadgets enabled.
[19:52:31] 	 okay
[19:53:12] 	 and, hm. Would I - hypothetically - be able to implement this on my WMF account? Or only on my own putative private Wiki?
[19:53:41] 	 No skins are php. They would have to be installed in the cluster for everyone.
[19:53:43] 	 mediawiki login with dirsrv?
[19:54:15] 	 Dantman - I'm not sure I understand; could you rephrase?
[19:58:41] 	 Dragonfly6-7: you could do a user script or gadget that uses CSS and/or JS to restyle things from a base skin… might not be ideal tho
[19:58:41] 	 but you would be able to use that on wmf sites
[19:58:41] 	 D0minat0r: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication
[19:58:42] 	 03(mod) fully support Wikilove on beta (2 issues) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47893  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[19:58:42] 	 Dantman: thats the one im trying to get to work 
[19:58:42] 	 Ah...
[19:58:42] 	 brion - excellent. Next, do you have any suggestions as to how I could do this, short of "take six months to learn CSS, JS, and PHP" ?
[19:58:42] 	 D0minat0r: The only one I know that's knowledgeable about that would be Ryan_Lane
[19:58:42] 	 hehe
[19:58:42] 	 brion: that what he's been doing, see his vector.{js,css} :)
[19:58:42] 	 Dragonfly6-7: ^
[19:58:42] 	 Dragonfly6-7: ;) take several weeks to bribe and persuade someone who already knows CSS, JS, and PHP?
[19:58:43] 	 Dantman: ok
[19:58:43] 	 this is why I wanted the specifications for the original css and js, so that I can get a better matchup
[19:58:51] 	 Ryan_Lane: mediawiki authentication against drisrv/389 anyhelp? i think ive tried every possible scenario...all i get is password incorrect
[19:59:04] 	 try entering the correct password?
[19:59:11] 	 Dragonfly6-7: hahaha
[19:59:45] 	 i do type it corrctly :) and i see in logs the Bind seems correct when compairing to logins i make to roundcubemail
[19:59:49] 	 03(mod) Parsoid: Redirects should not be served as HTTP 200 with contents of target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45808  +comment (10gwicke)
[20:00:12] 	 Doesn't our AuthPlugin system suffer from the bug that it can't give out any errors more meaningful than "incorrect password"?
[20:00:22] 	 yes
[20:00:37] 	 it's targeted to be fixed next release it seems, though
[20:02:52] 	 is there a fix for my problem? as i see in the debug log it fails to bind with exact same string as roundcube succeeds with( only difference is = method 128 version=3) after the succesful bind
[20:03:25] 	 It's now just a few hours till the Wikimania talk deadline
[20:04:56] 	 Dragonfly6-7: I'd be happy to look at mock-ups and to try and pair you with relevant developers
[20:05:28] 	 ori-l - I have some posts on [[:meta:tech]] and on enwiki's tech village pump, outlining my issues
[20:05:39] 	 If it weren't for the fact that I'm not a designer and I don't know any designer capable of creating MonoBook/Vector level skin ideas I'd put the creation of a new skin on my code ideas list.
[20:05:54] 	 Dragonfly6-7: can you centralize your suggestions somewhere?
[20:06:09] 	 like where?
[20:06:16] * Dragonfly6-7  also has screenshots
[20:07:17] 	 Dunno, a sub-page of your user page on mediawiki.org, maybe? You've done well to share your ideas on the village pump and [[:meta:tech]], but it's still handy to have one place to refer to, at least for me.
[20:13:10] 	 03(mod) Extensions can't fully block password changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46590  (10Chris Steipp)
[20:13:39] 	 bah the binds doesent look the same crap
[20:13:57] 	 sumanah: I'm filling out my gsoc application right now, in the content part, can I just paste in raw wikitext or should I format it with their editor?
[20:14:02] 	 correct bind has cn="wiki bind" method=128 version=3
[20:14:20] 	 legoktm: Format it with their editor. Sorry.
[20:14:28] 	 03(mod) SVG JavaScript detection bypass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47304  (10Chris Steipp)
[20:14:37] 	 ok, will do
[20:18:04] 	 03(mod) Extensions can't fully block password changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46590  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:18:27] 	 !gsoc | legoktm 
[20:18:27] 	 legoktm: Start a draft on mediawiki.org. In April, submit it to GSoC officially via Melange www.google-melange.com . Then, as you get feedback in IRC and on the wikitech-l mailing list, revise both wiki & Melange versions. Thus there's a public copy that everyone can see + an official copy the mentors see & evaluate. Also, Melange may crash at the 'last minute', so don't wait. Check the Melange FAQ & en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
[20:18:33] 	 can someone review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/61064/ please?
[20:18:36] 	 I think you already know all that but I just wanted to make sure legoktm 
[20:18:53] 	 yup, i did :)
[20:19:19] 	 Importing's breaking? MaxSem that does sound annoying. Krenair do you have a moment?
[20:19:59] 	 03(mod) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888  (10moidiple)
[20:20:00] 	 03(NEW) SineBot triggers notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47894 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[20:20:29] 	 03(mod) SVG JavaScript detection bypass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47304  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:21:06] 	 sumanah?
[20:21:31] 	 Krenair: I was wondering whether you felt capable of giving https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/61064/ a look
[20:24:43] 	 03(mod) SineBot triggers notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47894  +comment (10lwelling)
[20:27:24] 	 sumanah: It looks sane but I don't have time to look into everything properly right now
[20:27:30] 	 Krenair: OK, thanks for the look
[20:29:37] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia icon is shown for other sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46585  (10Ryan Kaldari)
[20:30:03] 	 anomie: do you have time to look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/61064/ for MaxSem? it's import-related and fixes a recent breakage
[20:30:28] 	 03(mod) Javascript seems disabled at Ilowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47888  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:31:14] 	 03(mod) The reference number should be bidi-isolated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36032  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:34:45] 	 03(NEW) Restore default settings in preferences will set a new user to the exiting user settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47895 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[20:35:29] 	 03(mod) Site notice dismiss button has layout problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17089  (10Krinkle)
[20:36:52] 	 sumanah: Sure, I'll take a look
[20:36:56] 	 thanks anomie 
[20:37:05] 	 always wanted to do that. :D
[20:37:56] 	 :)
[20:38:08] 	 03(NEW) Need a higher z-index on the flyout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47896 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[20:39:51] 	 03(NEW) Fly-out preferences link moves below notifications link when zoom < 100% in chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47897 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[20:39:58] 	 03(mod) [TUX] Text cannot be marked in the original message field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47861  +comment (10mfwarburg)
[20:40:58] 	 03(mod) Fly-out preferences link moves below notifications link when zoom < 100% in chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47897  +comment (10ebernhardson)
[20:47:05] 	 03(mod) Browser freezes when trying to edit translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47635  summary; +comment (10Nemo)
[20:48:01] 	 03(mod) Browser freezes when trying to edit translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47635  (10Nemo)
[20:49:40] 	 can someone take look at my proposal  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Diadara536/GSoC
[20:50:04] 	 its about jQuery.IME improvements
[20:50:28] 	 03(NEW) "We found a more accurate location for you" notice is buggy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47898 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[20:51:21] 	 hi diadara 
[20:51:24] 	 I'll look now
[20:52:02] 	 diadara: are you ready for about 10 minutes of suggestions that will cause you to have to do substantially more than 10 minutes of fixes?
[20:52:19] 	 03(mod) Need a higher z-index on the flyout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47896  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:52:46] 	 03(mod) [Regression] mwCustomEditButtons from user script should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47872  +comment (10krinklemail)
[20:53:45] 	 03(mod) SVG JavaScript detection bypass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47304  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:53:49] 	 03(mod) Extensions can't fully block password changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46590  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:54:54] 	 sumanah, sure 
[20:55:19] 	 diadara: ok. First off, getting the details right is reassuring and helps the reader believe that you will get details correct in your implementation as well
[20:55:40] 	 diadara: thus you need to work on things like: consistent proper punctuation, capitalization, spacing, and so on
[20:56:21] 	 diadara: example: in "I will make mockups for the keyboard and start making the keyboard using html and css according to feedback from my mentor and community.I am currently inclined towards gnome-shell onscreen keyboard style keyboard which does not get in the users way.I will also be testing this with different screen sizes." you should have spaces after the periods, and you should say "user's way" rather than "users way" and you should capitaliz
[20:56:22] 	 e HTML and CSS.
[20:56:58] 	 Capitalize HTML, CSS, Chrome, Firefox, QUnit, and Node.js
[20:57:58] 	 diadara: If you make your proposal *readable* then people can concentrate on the ideas in it.
[20:58:07] 	 Just like with any other good UI. :)
[20:58:31] 	 diadara: ok, now some other suggestions and thoughts.
[20:58:33] 	 03(mod) SVG JavaScript detection bypass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47304  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:58:34] 	 Is toolserver in some kind of death throes?
[20:58:41] 	 03(mod) Extensions can't fully block password changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46590  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:58:44] 	 http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html in particular has been acting up
[20:58:44] 	 marktraceur: ask #toolserver ?
[20:59:03] 	 diadara: What devices will you test this on? 
[20:59:20] 	 marktraceur, they have been trying to kill it for some time
[20:59:24] 	 diadara: how will you get those devices?  which operating systems?  Tablets in particular
[20:59:28] 	 by not sending him the doctor :)
[20:59:40] 	 marktraceur: the toolserver will decommissioned 
[20:59:45] 	 03(mod) Unsuccessful request: Error contacting the Parsoid server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47890  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[20:59:55] 	 Betacommand: Oh, well. What should I use instead?
[21:00:07] 	 Platonides: marktraceur Betacommand you know about the Toolserver roadmap that Silke circulated, right?
[21:00:15] 	 03(mod) No links to user talk messages on notifications flyout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47707  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[21:00:15] 	 marktraceur: things will be moving to labs
[21:00:22] 	 sumanah: No
[21:00:34] 	 diadara: "I am quite familiar with jQuery.IME code-base thanks to the youtube videos on this plugin ."  YouTube videos are NOT ENOUGH to familiarize yourself with a new codebase! you have to actually make things with it
[21:00:36] 	 but you can't currently do on labs everything possible on toolserver
[21:00:49] 	 So...I'm without botbrain? How will I live my life?
[21:00:57] 	 Betacommand: Platonides marktraceur http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/labs-l/2013-April/001135.html
[21:01:00] 	 !botbrain
[21:01:01] 	 Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot
[21:01:08] 	 marktraceur: ^
[21:01:09] 	 Oh, K.
[21:01:39] 	 diadara: also, please say "YouTube" and omit the unnecessary space between "plugin" and "."
[21:01:56] 	 03(mod) Thread title containing "" destroys entire page with $wgUseTidy = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47885  +comment (10krinklemail)
[21:02:02] 	 diadara: btw are you following me? A "ok" or "I'll fix that" every once in a while will reassure me that you haven't dropped off the internet :-)
[21:02:06] 	 diadara,  no I should have made that clear there's a 40 minute code reconstructed video about the plugin ,I have also played around with the code
[21:02:18] 	 03(NEW) Document disk space requirements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47899 minor; Tools: Vagrant; ()
[21:02:32] 	 diadara: I could watch a thousand videos about the space shuttle but that doesn't mean NASA will hire me
[21:02:34] 	 :)
[21:02:55] 	 diadara: you made the comma and spacing mistake again just there
[21:03:09] 	 " about the plugin ,I have also played around with the code"  -- should have been " about the plugin, I have also played around with the code"
[21:03:11] 	 goddammit, never give up it seems. got finally it workign to authenticate against dirsrv
[21:03:16] 	 the space goes AFTER the comma, diadara 
[21:03:42] 	 03(mod) Restore default settings in preferences will set a new user to the exiting user settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47895  +comment (10rkaldari)
[21:04:19] 	 my English sucks :(
[21:04:32] 	 diadara: you mention documentation at the end -- what KIND of documentation?  automated browser tests?  a manual for the end user?  (how will you arrange for it to be translated?)  a code walkthrough for future developers?
[21:04:56] 	 diadara: everyone starts off with English that is not great.  English is a ridiculously hard language to get right. But if you get it right then other people can understand you better and your prose is easier to read
[21:05:15] 	 diadara: there are automatic grammar and spelling checkers that can help you with this - some are built into word processors and browsers
[21:05:45] 	 03(mod) Echo: Error "Missing modules: ext.gettingstarted.echo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:06:24] 	 diadara: so, you'll need to go through your schedule and think harder about what kind of documentation you want to write, think about how long it'll take, and who the target audience is for each piece
[21:06:31] 	 03(mod) Echo: Error "Missing modules: ext.gettingstarted.echo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874  +comment (10Krinkle)
[21:06:31] 	 once you have thought about that, write down what you predict
[21:07:05] 	 diadara: in "Past open source experience" if you can link more that would be great -- link to the specific applications, including that Rails-based app and the python script
[21:07:28] 	 diadara: also link to any bug reports you have filed, public mailing list posts you have written, blog posts, sessions you have taught at your college in which you trained people in open source, etc.
[21:07:41] 	 ok
[21:07:54] 	 diadara: the point is to show that you are genuinely committed to open source and that you can work in public and learn, and the more proof you can link to, the better
[21:08:33] 	 03(mod) Fly-out preferences link moves below notifications link when zoom < 100% in chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47897  +comment (10rkaldari)
[21:09:23] 	 diadara: next to your name and contact information, I see you have written "Typical working hours: 11 am to 2 pm IST" -- that's only 3 hours per day.  We expect that you work more like 7-8 hours per weekday on this internship for a total of ~35-40 hours per week for 12 weeks
[21:09:37] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Sysops_and_permissions&diff=cur&oldid=639346
[21:09:48] 	 I'm tempted to leave this un-rejected to prove a point
[21:09:50] 	 diadara: we also need to know if you have any other time commitments such as family holidays, exams, courses, and so on
[21:10:19] 	 03(mod) Fly-out preferences link moves below notifications link when zoom < 100% in chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47897  +comment (10rkaldari)
[21:10:42] 	 it should have been 2 am
[21:10:44] 	 diadara: I need to leave this topic to do other things soon, but I want to check whether you have any questions about any of the criticisms I have given you so far
[21:11:45] 	 thanks sumanah , will work on it later 
[21:11:54] 	 diadara: ok. A few more things before I go:
[21:12:36] 	 diadara: visual and interaction design. You should build time into your schedule to specifically work with the mobile team and the design team to work on the user experience of this project. I anticipate it will take more than 2 weeks
[21:13:03] 	 diadara: it will very strongly help your application if you can link to a patch to MediaWiki you have written
[21:13:31] 	 03(mod) Echo: Error "Missing modules: ext.gettingstarted.echo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:13:34] 	 03(mod) possible RL error from GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47839  +comment (10mflaschen)
[21:14:21] 	 diadara: and finally: I don't see you allotting nearly any time to manual testing, automated browser testing, and post-merge bugfixing.  You need more time for that, which means you may need to cut down on the number of deliverables you can get done
[21:14:35] 	 diadara: do you have all that?
[21:14:45] 	 yes
[21:14:46] 	 !logs | diadara 
[21:14:46] 	 diadara: channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/html/index.php?action=search&channel=%23mediawiki
[21:14:52] 	 diadara: in case you need a reminder :-)  
[21:15:11] 	 good luck diadara!
[21:15:26] 	 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[21:15:34] 	 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870  +comment (10hashar)
[21:16:09] 	 03(mod) Replace glusterfs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46823  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[21:16:40] 	 sumanah, thanks for taking time 
[21:19:26] 	 Dantman, annoying that it took 5 days for someone to notice that though
[21:21:53] 	 03(mod) Please modify the MediaWiki:Group-centralnoticeadmin-member message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47613  +comment (10Marco Aurelio)
[21:21:55] 	 Krenair: ^_^ We need a fancier RC page for wikis like MW.org
[21:22:36] 	 03(mod) Fly-out preferences link moves below notifications link when zoom < 100% in chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47897  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:22:37] 	 eg: Including blocks with partial diffs
[21:22:53] 	 I added the pending changes link to the recent changes interface a year ago
[21:23:17] 	 Unfortunately it isn't quite as useful as the category links with their {{PAGESINCATEGORY}} info
[21:23:55] 	 When it goes over 50 unreviewed revisions I try to note it next to the link hoping that more people will look at the unreviewed stuff
[21:24:22] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/?diff=528197
[21:24:27] 	 Small links and text don't really draw people.
[21:30:36] 	 03(NEW) install tcl 8.6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47900 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[21:32:28] 	 autopromote based on a group name i take from ldap? anyone?
[21:32:39] 	 03(mod) Unsuccessful request: Error contacting the Parsoid server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47890  +comment (10gwicke)
[21:32:51] 	 D0minat0r: you only want to promote that one group?
[21:32:54] 	 and no others?
[21:33:08] 	 I honestly don't know how autopromote works well enough to help you
[21:33:33] 	 the ldap plugin will sync groups, the rest is left up to mediawiki
[21:35:07] 	 Ryan_Lane: well there will not be many ldap admins to autopromote so maybe i just do that manually :)
[21:35:18] 	 why the need for autopromote, though?
[21:35:26] 	 why not just assign permissions to the group?
[21:36:03] 	 dunno :)
[21:36:45] 	 well gonna leave that for tomorrow my other admin gotta have something to do aswell still have few more issues to deal with today :)
[21:38:44] 	 Krenair: Hey, are you mentoring for GSoC?
[21:38:51] 	 marktraceur, no.
[21:39:11] 	 Krenair: Would you be interested in doing so? :)
[21:39:17] 	 No.
[21:39:19] 	 At least not this year
[21:39:23] 	 Mmmkay
[21:39:24] 	 My exams start in two weeks
[21:39:29] 	 Krenair: Good reason
[21:39:35] 	 I'm *supposed* to be revising
[21:42:11] 	 marktraceur: Actually maybe not in 2014 or 2015 either, because I'll have more exams then
[21:42:38] 	 Krenair: I probably won't remember that we had this conversation in a year
[21:42:43] 	 Krenair: So I'll ask you again then
[21:42:50] 	 okay :)
[21:44:57] 	 *sigh* last day I get to be 23
[21:45:31] 	 Dantman: Hey, we just overlapped then
[21:46:45] 	 ?
[21:46:51] 	 Dantman: I just became 23 very recently
[21:47:11] 	 You're younger than me?!
[21:47:14] * Dantman  's head spins
[21:47:28] 	 Dantman: The fetus cabal is a strong force at the WMF :)
[21:48:19] 	 03(mod) Inconsistent state within the internal storage backends - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39221  +comment (10Tisza Gergő)
[21:52:15] 	 03(mod) Thread title containing "" destroys entire page with $wgUseTidy = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47885  +comment (10krenair)
[22:05:44] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Backspace over lists doesn't delete the LIs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47795  +comment (10Inez Korczyński)
[22:13:34] 	 03(NEW) mw-ui-button doesn't show Agora focus indicator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47901 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[22:15:58] 	  Hi
[22:21:22] 	 03(mod) The Commons app cannot be found by its Hebrew name in the Play store - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46952  +comment (10brion)
[22:31:35] 	 03(NEW) checkboxes don't show Agora focus highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47902 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[22:31:43] 	 03(mod) checkboxes don't show Agora focus highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47902  (10spage)
[22:32:00] 	 03(mod) The Commons app cannot be found by its Hebrew name in the Play store - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46952  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[22:32:46] 	 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781  major->15enhancement; +comment (10Tim Starling)
[22:38:50] 	 learning lots about MW access control in current gig
[22:38:59] 	 it is better than I thought
[22:47:30] 	 hexmode: oh good! that's a nice surprise (re access control)
[22:47:37] 	 hexmode: who's the gig, if I may ask?
[22:47:54] 	 03(mod) Display license text on Special pages for non-Javascript editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45773  +comment (10Pragun Bhutani)
[22:48:00] 	 nothing fine-grained, mind you, but better than what I  thought
[22:48:16] 	 03(mod) $wgMaxShellMemory won't set ulimit on non-Linux POSIX Operating Systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47781  +comment (10rabe)
[22:48:34] 	 sumanah: http://wikipathways.org/ -- gladstone people, ancient MW
[22:48:40] 	 Hey guys.  I maintain a MW install for a CS research group, and have an issue.  Two wikis on the same database with different prefixes and different domains.  I want the second Wiki to, when a page doesn't exist on it to attempt to pull it from the other Wiki transparently before showing not found.  So it still looks like the Wiki it's being accessed from but is actually pulling the content from the other Wiki.  They used to do it before through Int
[22:48:41] 	 erwiki, but I'm not sure how to get that working again.  Any help is appreciated. 
[22:48:58] 	 hexmode: are you a shepherd who shepherds ancient MW installations back to the safety of the trunk? :D
[22:49:07] 	 heh
[22:49:30] 	 I like that metaphor.
[22:50:28] 	 pdaian: scary transclusion, maybe?
[22:50:31] 	 sumanah: I just upgraded a 6 year old install with over 200 custom extensions using lots of deprecated / broken API components... was fun
[22:50:37] 	 !wg EnableScaryTransclusion | pdaian
[22:50:37] 	 pdaian: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTransclusion
[22:50:57] 	 I tried enabling scary transclusion and it still didn't work... might be something I'm missing in the setup?
[22:51:04] 	 hm, wrong link, sorry
[22:51:07] 	 pdaian: wow! if you could write a case study of that for mediawiki-l I bet a lot of people would read it
[22:51:10] 	 !lists | pdaian 
[22:51:10] 	 pdaian: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[22:51:25] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding . okay.
[22:51:37] 	 hexmode: if you have suggestions for the access control (or bugs that you find), I'd love to hear them.
[22:51:40] 	 pdaian: sorry, i'm not an expert here, i mostly just heard that this exists :)
[22:51:48] 	 sumanah: I might look into that, really busy these next few weeks but it'd be fun
[22:52:01] 	 Also, this bug may be related... my Interwiki page flashes to white before loading
[22:52:18] 	 it loads the page fine and if I have JS disabled does not flash to white at all.. haven't seen this bug before
[22:52:19] 	 reference URL: http://fslweb.cs.illinois.edu/index.php/Special:Interwiki
[22:52:32] 	 csteipp: I'm learning about what MW is capable of doing, so no  bugs yet.  If I come across any, I'll CC you. ;)
[23:02:49] 	 You know what's even weirder is that the title clears too after the page tried to load... this bug's got me stumped
[23:03:26] 	 pdaian, you have custom javascript doing document.write ?
[23:03:48] 	 not that I know of, but there's a lot of custom code that I didn't write so let me check
[23:04:01] 	 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807  +comment (10tstarling)
[23:04:14] 	 you can blank mediawiki:common.js and mediawiki:monobook.js
[23:04:27] 	 and revert them later
[23:05:27] 	 don't see any content on those pages
[23:08:02] 	 I don't see any JS on that page that isn't common to other pages as part of the theme
[23:08:10] 	 I guess I can change the style and see if that helps
[23:12:17] 	 03(mod) Install database on extension1 db for en wiki release of Notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47525  (10bsitu)
[23:14:14] 	 03(mod) Improve error message when viewing draft - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47853  (10christian)
[23:14:29] 	 Hi all. I want to know if it is possible to load a gadget AFTER the user code (user/common.js, etc).
[23:24:23] 	 Tgor: No... but perhaps there is a better way of doing what you are actually wanting to do.
[23:26:43] 	 03(mod) Display license text on Special pages for non-Javascript editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45773  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[23:30:07] 	 Dantman,I want my gadget able to be customize so I use a global. And adding something like foo.push('customization') to the user code.
[23:33:34] 	 Tgor: You could do stuff that needs config inside of a ready event. Theoretically user scripts should run before the dom is ready.
[23:34:29] 	 03(NEW) Unread notifications need hover state - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47903 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[23:34:36] 	 Tgor: It's actually also possible to save arbitrary keys into user preferences that could be used by gadgets.
[23:36:50] 	 Hi, one short question. The 1.20.5 download now contains "PaxHeaders.1961" folders. What are they about?
[23:37:47] 	 03(mod) Allow global renaming of global users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14862  +comment (10federicoleva)
[23:39:30] 	 csteipp, ^
[23:40:30] 	 kghbln I did upgrade from 1.19.x to 1.19.6 version and the diff I got was for: 10 files only
[23:40:33] 	 no Pax... there
[23:40:53] 	 ErkanYilmaz, I'm assuming he's talking about the full download, not the patch
[23:41:08] 	 ok :-)
[23:41:25] 	 ErkanYilmaz Krenair Yeah, the full download :)
[23:41:28] 	 actually the patching is quite much time-saving, I wonder why I didn't do that before vor minor versions
[23:42:03] 	 Let's assume I would like to do a fresh install ;)
[23:42:44] 	 ok
[23:44:01] 	 restarting gerrit
[23:44:28] 	 kghbln though different than MW here's something about Pax... perhaps it can give a clue: https://github.com/theuni/XBMC-deps/blob/master/tar-1.23/doc/tar.info-2
[23:44:44] 	 at: "The `PaxHeaders.*' directories"
[23:46:43] 	 Dantman; I'm rethinking my approach. thanks :)
[23:48:14] 	 ErkanYilmaz Looks like lines 1204+ provide some info
[23:48:49] 	 :-)
[23:51:16] 	 03(NEW) Greyline obscuring article/talk/edit tabs, seems to be caused by the new notifications tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47904 normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; ()
[23:54:20] 	 hey qgil 
[23:54:34] 	 hi sumanah 
[23:54:37] 	 thank you for your draft, which is now https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Transparency_and_collaboration_in_Wikimedia_engineering
[23:55:13] 	 sumanah, nice progress! thank you
[23:56:53] 	 yw :)
[23:57:05] 	 sumanah, we'll see. But getting 4 for the price of 1...  ;)  they should accept it
[23:57:45] 	 03(mod) Centralized Search Engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47775  +comment (10ram)
[23:58:05] 	 03(mod) Greyline obscuring article/talk/edit tabs, seems to be caused by the new notifications tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47904  (10lars.randevik)