[00:03:29] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 +shell (10James Forrester) [00:05:08] 03(mod) Wikibase\SiteLinkTable::saveLinksOfItem deadlocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47663 +comment (10aschulz4587) [00:06:56] 03(mod) Maintenance script to permanently delete files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47990 +comment (10p858snake) [00:10:36] Krinkle: how do I access wgExtensionAssetsPath? Is it a global I can get at from JS? [00:10:48] Krinkle: or only on PHP side. [00:12:06] downtown: mw.config.get [00:12:11] 03(mod) Echo: incorrectly parses section headings with wikimarkup in them. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47999 +comment (10rkaldari) [00:12:20] 03(mod) Echo: Unstyled notifications badge flashed while page is loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48001 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:12:21] downtown: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript#mw.config [00:12:40] 03(mod) Echo: Unstyled notifications badge flashed while page is loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48001 (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [00:12:43] downtown: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RL/DM#mediawiki_2 [00:13:14] Krinkle: that resource is perfect. Thanks again. [00:17:48] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 +comment (10Philippe Beaudette) [00:18:46] 03(mod) Maintenance script to permanently delete files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47990 +comment (10pbeaudette) [00:18:51] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 +comment (10Thehelpfulone) [00:22:22] 03(mod) Replace outdated translations with source text on translation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44328 +comment (10Tilman Bayer) [00:28:35] 03(mod) Thumbnails that are "inline" should break paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47518 +comment (10inez) [00:28:51] 03(mod) Echo: incorrectly parses section headings with wikimarkup in them. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47999 +comment (10rkaldari) [00:29:40] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 (10bsitu) [00:30:12] anomie, in that API announcement you just sent out you probably should've mentioned that this only applies with the Echo extension [00:30:23] Which is enabled on ... what, two wikis? Both WMF ones as well... [00:31:54] Krenair: Echo was mentioned in the subject and in the body. Although I thought they turned Echo on everywhere (I was mistaken there). [00:32:12] WMF cannot turn on Echo everywhere [00:32:20] Only on their wikis [00:32:25] What. [00:32:43] You can't force third parties to add extra extensions [00:32:45] Echo is apparently on enwiki now [00:32:53] Yes. [00:32:54] Krenair: Sure, by "everywhere" he meant "all WMF wikis" [00:33:06] The announce email seemed more like the thing you'd send after fixing the issue? [00:33:09] Or just fixing the issue. [00:33:32] wikimedia-centric on a mediawiki announce list...? [00:33:56] Well, I'd focus less on that and instead on it being an announce list. [00:33:59] Krenair: Most people would rather get one extra email that doesn't apply to their wiki yet than miss out entirely [00:34:02] Let's just no, uh, break shit. :-) [00:34:05] not * [00:34:27] Krenair: We do that all the time [00:34:32] I don't think people on that list want any e-mail that isn't a breaking change in MediaWiki API, TBH. [00:34:38] Especially on the mediawiki-api-announce list [00:34:42] Susan: Well something broke! [00:34:54] Right, but it just seems like a normal bug. [00:34:57] That should be fixed. [00:35:07] Unless it's going to stay broken forever? [00:35:19] I don't think it will. [00:35:35] Right. [00:35:36] Susan: It's a bug that is going to affect a lot of users of the API. They should know their bots will be misbehaving. [00:35:45] Krenair: Clarified. Happy now? [00:35:45] anomie: Can't we just fix it real quick? [00:35:58] anomie: I agree that it's a bug. I'm not sure I agree with pointing at it. [00:35:59] Susan: Up to the Echo people. [00:36:03] Okay. [00:36:44] is this about right? :o if it's a bug -> #wikimedia-tech, if it's a question about an existing feature -> #mediawiki, if it's a request to add a new feature -> #wikimedia-dev [00:36:55] we should have some more [00:37:59] 03(mod) Talk page notifications should link to the section of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47954 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:39:08] Looks like we'd need to add a hook to core to fix that bug [00:41:38] 03(NEW) crackling at start of OGG renditions of MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48029 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Score; () [00:48:22] 03(NEW) Turn off autocomplete for CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48030 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); () [00:55:44] 03(mod) Echo breaks the hasmsg API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47962 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:57:06] 03(mod) Echo breaks the hasmsg API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47962 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:57:46] 03(mod) Echo breaks the hasmsg API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47962 (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [00:58:56] I'd like to get wikinews's news in json through an API. Does mediawiki permit such a thing? [00:59:58] konr, no [01:01:00] Krenair: what an unfortunate thing to know! [01:01:24] I remember getting json out of wikipedia, though... [01:01:59] At least not as far as I know [01:02:04] You can get JSON from the API [01:02:14] But you won't get any structured info like news stuff [01:02:20] You'd have to parse wikitext [01:02:29] Krenair: But konr just wants new pages in a category? [01:03:27] Krenair: Hmm, actually, article namespace pages which newly transclude https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Publish [01:05:11] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10fflorin) [01:06:21] James_F: basically, yes! Category:Published && PostingDate < now() - ONE_WEEK [01:07:32] Krenair: Is that possible? My familiarity with the API is minimal. [01:07:33] 03(mod) Support inline player for MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18852 (10spage) [01:07:56] James_F, I'm not sure either [01:08:23] konr: Sorry to be unhelpful. :-( [01:08:27] I don't understand the question. [01:08:58] konr: You should provide an example of what you're trying to get. [01:09:10] But I think the answer is "you can get the raw wikitext and not much more" currently. [01:09:18] Well, and the HTML. [01:09:23] Which is sometimes much more helpful. [01:09:31] I parse Wiktionary and Wikinews that way for a bot. [01:09:43] James_F: not a problem at all. You were helpful! [01:09:43] HTML is structured data, heh. [01:10:13] Susan: I just need some JSON with the latest news. Title and URL are enough [01:10:26] 03(mod) Turn off autocomplete for CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48030 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:11:43] konr: Example Wikinews link? [01:11:51] I'm not a mindreader. :-) [01:14:27] Susan: I'm looking for such a link :) I just need a URL to call to yield me a list of the current news in JSON; something like: {news: [{title: "konr wins the lottery!", url: "http://wikinews.org/wiki/konr_wins_the_lottery"}, ...]} [01:14:51] konr: What's your source? [01:14:57] "latest news" is a pretty stupid thing to say. [01:15:03] The latest news isn't on Wikinews, I promise. [01:15:14] You'd be much better off reading the AP's Twitter feed. [01:15:14] oh, sorry, I thought this was #wikinews channel :) [01:15:25] Close. :-) [01:15:37] Still, even you can provide a source link, you may get help. [01:15:44] Otherwise, people can't read your mind for what "latest news" means. [01:16:16] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 (10bsitu) [01:21:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Suppress "Web link" section in link inspector suggestion list if a wiki page link already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43063 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:21:38] Here's somethin quite close! http://en.wikinews.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Published&format=json [01:22:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Suppress "Web link" section in link inspector suggestion list if a wiki page link already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43063 (10James Forrester) [01:22:06] 03(mod) [statements-ui] create links to Claim properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43206 (10James Forrester) [01:23:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: using non-ASCII characters in the VisualEditor edit summary insertion can make the remaining character count negative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47718 normal->minor (10James Forrester) [01:23:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33077 (10James Forrester) [01:24:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.stop() called without a subsequent call to ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.start() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47793 (10James Forrester) [01:24:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: heading removal adds ♙ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47943 (10James Forrester) [01:25:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" pop-over overlaps sidebar in monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47786 (10James Forrester) [01:28:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: For images, ensure that the HTML structure rendered in VE is the same as output by PHP parser so that styles/scripts work as expected and images look normal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47803 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:29:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Thumb" images should display in user-preference thumb size if exists, then fall back to local default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47804 summary (10James Forrester) [01:30:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking away before VE loads completely throws JS error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47813 summary (10James Forrester) [01:33:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Unread message notification will not mark itself read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47816 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:33:25] 03(mod) Talk page notifications should link to the section of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47954 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:34:59] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10fflorin) [01:37:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Extra tags got inserted causing infobox layout to be broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47860 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:37:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:38:19] 03(mod) JS exception is thrown when trying to use list (ordered or bullet) tool in block slug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47947 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:42:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Indent buttons should be used for in-/out-denting paragraphs as well as lists. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48010 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:43:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting text and hitting "end" deletes the selected text in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48022 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:52:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn characters created when moving cursors around inline images in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48024 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:56:38] 03(mod) Turn off autocomplete for CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48030 (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:01:47] Konr: if you are still here, use special:newsfeed [02:01:49] 03(mod) Need to replace mysql_*() functions for in favor of mysqli or pdo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45288 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:07:31] 03(NEW) Echo: In mw-prefsection-echo, nodismiss options should be a checked checkbox with disabled="true" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48031 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [02:14:33] 03(NEW) Math extension doesn't support Malayalam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; () [02:15:17] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support Malayalam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 +comment (10me.praveen) [02:15:55] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support Malayalam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 (10praveenp) [02:22:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: There is not enough UI difference between reading and editing mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48008 normal->15enhancement; +design; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [02:24:03] 03(mod) VisualEditor: IME detection runs too slowly in some circumstances and so not all consecutive characters are caught - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45240 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [02:25:41] 03(mod) improve sort order in entity selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45351 +comment (10Nilesh Chakraborty) [02:27:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox has issues using VE when cookies are disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43193 (10James Forrester) [02:28:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A lot of time needed to load blocks? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47760 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:31:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Split out MediaWiki-specific dm stuff into a separate directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45295 +comment (10jforrester) [02:33:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Warn the user more prominently that they are editing an out-dated version of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47683 (10James Forrester) [02:33:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit vs. edit source tab split not preserved across action=history, action=edit, Special:Undelete, … - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47776 (10James Forrester) [02:33:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trailing whitespace at end of paragraph or table cell dropped on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47712 (10James Forrester) [02:33:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Edit source" tab doesn't become 'active' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47452 (10James Forrester) [02:33:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 (10James Forrester) [02:33:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: After saving a page, the VisualEditor tab points at the oldid content not the new one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47682 (10James Forrester) [02:33:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector crashes when trying to annotate first character in the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47623 (10James Forrester) [02:34:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Over-eager link inspector suggestion tool inhibits linking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45807 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:34:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: JS exception is thrown when trying to use list (ordered or bullet) tool in block slug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47947 summary (10James Forrester) [02:36:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn ♙ appears after delecting list and moving cursor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41067 (10James Forrester) [02:45:15] sorry to bother here, I have a question: is lua table faster than switch syntax of mediawiki? [02:48:33] anomie: question for you^ [02:49:15] Cravix: It probably depends on the exact situation. Try it both ways and find out. [02:50:57] The bigger the switch, the more likely it is to be slow. If it's being used many times per page, in Lua you can use mw.loadData to avoid repeatedly parsing the table. [02:52:35] 03(mod) isGettingStarted function returns true for account creations regardless of whether they were served GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47590 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:54:52] anomie: there's a giant switch in a template on zhwiki, it has 204 lines, so if lua is better, I'll replace switch with lua :) [02:54:53] here it is: https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Langname&action=edit [03:24:27] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10rkaldari) [03:27:24] I can't see how #switch would ever be faster. [03:30:38] Susan: tbh, I think lua table is faster, but not really sure (haven't learned lua yet :P), so I'd like to check :) [03:36:00] Hello - I am setting up media wiki though have noticed there is no link to create a new page - i have found the alternative (e.g. search for the page and then create, or just add the name of the page in the url and then create) though this in turn does not help with keeping the wiki in a hierachy structure. [03:36:57] i would like to be able to setup the wiki so users can create new pages, and if they create add create from a "main" page, then a sub page is created [03:39:55] mRnewBii: can you describe a bit more what you have in mind? [03:42:26] well from the main page - if i create a new page - would be nice if there was a link that just said "create new page" and from there - each page created underneath that page, they are automatically subpages [03:44:54] 03(mod) Create a special argument for GENDER to use the userspace page owner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47961 +comment (10Gustronico) [03:45:04] i understand how this is done manually with a / though having it automated would be nice. a Create new page, then "add subpage" link would be handy [03:46:03] googling - hasnt been successfull so far and i am not sure if mediawiki is able to do this simply enough [03:47:33] mRnewBii: hang on a moment and i'll help [03:48:31] ori-l: thats ok, i am still "googling" at the same time :) [04:03:14] mRnewBii: assuming you're using vector (the default skin, or 'look', for mediawiki), this should work: http://dpaste.de/UkmK7/ [04:03:52] to use that code, when logged in as an administrator, navigate to your wiki's /wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js page [04:04:03] and copy/paste that code [04:04:42] there are various ways that code could be improved, but you should first check to see if it approximates what you wanted [04:13:34] 03(mod) Thumbnails that are "inline" should break paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47518 +comment (10gwicke) [04:34:01] ori-l thanks for that, seems to work really well [04:34:44] is it possible to have create new page as well? [04:35:21] that starts from the main page? [04:43:23] 03(mod) Can't merge blocked users: Duplicate entry for key 'ipb_address' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39470 +comment (10b) [04:48:39] mRnewBii: yeah, that should do it http://dpaste.de/2O2Qv/ [04:52:26] (you should replace the previous snippet with this one) [04:53:23] ok thanks - will give it a go :) really appreciate your work [04:54:46] no problem [05:36:13] 03(mod) hidden categories ruin html layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48019 +comment (10andyrom75) [05:43:27] 03(mod) Talk page notifications should link to the section of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47954 +comment (10federicoleva) [05:45:21] 03(mod) Talk page notifications should link to the section of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47954 +comment (10mflaschen) [05:46:50] ori-l your a champion! that works great!! :) [05:47:22] ok - so if there are any updates to the wiki - will this get overwritten? [05:48:29] no, Common.js is meant to provide a facility for making persistent changes to the interface [05:57:20] nice - thanks again! [06:00:57] np [06:03:14] :-) [06:03:58] there is one thing though, when creating the page from the main page, it doesnt leave a link to the page - e.g [[newpage|newpage]] - is there a way for you to have the new page created, leave a link? [06:06:31] the intent for this is to effectively create a table of contents [06:06:41] 03(mod) missing.php does not redirect individual pages anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47908 (10Tim Starling) [06:07:25] from the main page thats created [06:11:18] 03(NEW) parsing wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48033 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; () [06:11:52] 03(mod) parsing wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48033 (10anurag) [06:12:57] 03(mod) parsing wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48033 (10anurag) [06:19:53] 03(mod) missing.php does not redirect individual pages anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47908 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:21:52] 03(mod) parsing wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48033 +comment (10Liangent) [06:22:27] 03(mod) parsing wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48033 +comment (10liangent) [06:22:49] i am looking for an extention that provides end user rss feeds for new articles only. (not changes) anyone knows a good extention for that ? does not need to be fancy or have many features; just to output a new article when one is created. [06:22:55] 03(mod) missing.php does not redirect individual pages anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47908 (10Tim Starling) [06:24:42] Good morning (it's 08:24AM here :)) [06:25:28] HeXiLeD: isn't the builtin one enough? [06:25:38] HeXiLeD: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewPages&feed=atom&hideredirs=1&limit=50&offset=&namespace=0&username=&tagfilter= [06:25:54] Is it possible in one way or another to disable the 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' in user preferences somehow? [06:26:04] it outputs a feed every time there is a revision which i dont want for the intended and needed purpose [06:26:19] On Danish Wikipedia we are discussing the possibility of only having the standard signature [06:28:59] heb: yes, it's possible. a very short mediawiki extension could do it. it may be doable using configuration parameters alone, i'm not sure. [06:29:09] I have looked at the $wgCleanSignatures but it doesn't seem to do the trick :( [06:29:32] meaning it doesn't work as described or is intended for something else? [06:29:46] HeXiLeD: really? I only see one entry per page in that feed though I didn't test it in a feed reader [06:30:00] if it's already implemented but broken, you should file a bug -- this gives you an excellent stick for beating developers into doing the work :) [06:30:04] ori-l: Meaning it didn't do what I wanted to achieve [06:30:35] ori-l: However http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCleanSignatures is very short in it's description [06:30:42] "If true, removes (substitutes) templates in "~~~~" signatures." [06:31:53] that manages to be both terse and polysemic, which is something [06:35:03] :) [06:35:13] i can't spend much time on it right now, but if you get stuck feel free to create a bug on bugzilla and assign it to me [06:35:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10liangent) [06:35:37] i hate rococo signatures and would be happy to play a bit part in their demise [06:35:47] ori-l: Thank you :) [06:44:43] ori-l: there is one thing though, when creating the page from the main page, it doesnt leave a link to the page - e.g [[newpage|newpage]] - is there a way for you to have the new page created, leave a link? [06:46:02] 03(NEW) Option to disable 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48034 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [06:46:22] ori-l: I couldn't assign it directly to you (or just couldn't figure it out...) [06:50:52] 03(mod) Option to disable 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48034 (10Ori Livneh) [06:51:01] assigned [06:57:53] 03(mod) Option to disable 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48034 +comment (10Liangent) [07:17:30] Creating APIs of LCM (Language Coverage Matrix) dashboard is the good idea or not ?? [07:33:32] can anyone help me with this JS please - http://dpaste.de/2O2Qv/#L1,7,23 - i would like to have it dump a link of the newly created page [07:33:51] on the parent page [07:34:36] ori-l helped me with this, though has had to leave. If someone could please help that would be greatly appreciated [07:47:24] im guessing my request might not be possible? [07:51:06] 03(mod) Thumbnails that are "inline" should break paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47518 (10ssastry) [08:07:07] 03(mod) Babel autocreate edit summary in user language instead of content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44623 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:08:53] mRnewBii: Don't use === true [08:09:21] mRnewBii: $tab is global [08:14:19] Dantman: ping [08:14:26] ... [08:19:21] MaxSem: ping [08:19:28] 03(mod) Make translation of "System font" possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47819 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:19:29] pong [08:19:55] 03(mod) [TUX] No details provided for message check failures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47923 (10Niklas Laxström) [08:20:18] 03(mod) [TUX] Text in tooltip of group selector is not parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47446 (10Niklas Laxström) [08:20:36] 03(mod) [TUX] Translation tabs are not updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47003 (10Niklas Laxström) [08:20:49] * Dantman kicks harshkothari [08:21:44] Dantman: I cant understand your meaning of ... [08:21:59] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Rectangle visible in MonoBook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47967 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:22:12] ...presumably you wanted to talk to me about something. [08:22:28] '...' can be interpreted as either "I'm here" or "What?" [08:22:46] okies I mis interpreted that [08:22:50] 03(mod) [INTERLANG/ANON] Weird bubble behavior when using "uselang" as anonymous user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47970 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:23:59] Dantman: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991/GSoC_2013 can you give some feedback for same ?? [08:24:12] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Change "In other languages" to "Languages" if there are no interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47972 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:24:43] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Inconsistency in labeling of language settings when integrated into language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47969 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:24:44] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Change "In other languages" to "Languages" if there are no interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47972 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:25:47] I have no clue what comment to make on language dashboard stuff. [08:26:13] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Cog icon appears misaligned with the text on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47978 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:26:48] my comment is that you should use PHP where you wanted Python [08:27:51] 03(mod) Make translation of "System font" possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47819 (10Niklas Laxström) [08:28:47] for 1st point MaxSem? [08:28:52] yeah [08:29:35] MaxSem: any other inputs ?? [08:29:42] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10grahamwp) [08:30:04] Dantman: No problem. :) [08:33:18] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [08:34:16] * MatmaRex says 'toldya' [08:38:05] MatmaRex: 'toldya' ?? [08:41:46] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10grahamwp) [08:43:45] 03(mod) Make translation of "System font" possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47819 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:43:58] 03(mod) Cannot choose "Unknown value" or "No value" for a statement with Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47942 +comment (10matma.rex) [08:48:21] 03(mod) MW after 1.19 treats "news:" differently in on-wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47878 +comment (10aklapper) [08:50:06] 03(NEW) Interwikimedia links across language and project. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48035 normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; () [09:00:22] 03(mod) Cannot choose "Unknown value" or "No value" for a statement with Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47942 +easy; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [09:03:59] 03(mod) Significant time optimisation of WordLevelDiff._split - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47989 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:04:59] hello. I'm working on a special extension that outputs using addWikiText a few lines that include some [ ] links. For some reason they are not being parsed. Using inline html just renders as text so I'm wondering if there's some setting I need to do. [09:11:59] 03(NEW) Add option for all visitors to toggle Math modes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48036 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; () [09:12:36] 03(mod) Better error handling for worker.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48012 +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:13:10] 03(mod) Add option for all visitors to toggle Math modes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48036 normal->15enhancement (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:13:13] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:13:15] 03(mod) Set $wgDefaultUserOptions['math']=2 on Wikimedia wikis (i.e. enable MathJax by default) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36496 (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:14:53] 03(mod) "My uploads list" slow to load and incorrect order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48027 summary (10Andre Klapper) [09:24:09] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10aklapper) [09:28:13] 03(mod) Option to disable 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48034 (10Andre Klapper) [09:30:16] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support Malayalam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [09:31:04] 03(mod) Echo breaks the hasmsg API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47962 (10Andre Klapper) [09:32:51] 03(mod) Large thumbnails of "lossless" files return error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48003 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:33:39] 03(NEW) Special:ItemByTitle should preserve url parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48037 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [09:53:30] 03(NEW) Sintax error in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [09:53:37] 03(NEW) Visual Editor : Selecting text and pressing Function keys, PageUp/Down, End/Insert shows some character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48039 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [09:53:40] 03(mod) Sintax error in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 (10reza1615) [09:58:13] 03(mod) Visual Editor : Selecting text and pressing Function keys, PageUp/Down, End/Insert shows some character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48039 (10Vivek Rai) [10:04:35] 03(mod) use terms table for property label lookups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46363 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:04:48] 03(mod) use terms table for property label lookups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46363 (10tobias.gritschacher) [10:13:37] 03(NEW) Upload from Commons for iOS app overwrites existing photo if the name is the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48040 normal; Commons App: iOS (iPhone or iPad); () [10:29:43] 03(mod) Bad article layout on it.wikivoyage (due to hidden categories?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48019 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:30:01] 03(mod) When redirecting to a section, set the page name in the URL correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48028 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [10:30:07] 03(mod) When redirecting to a section, set the page name in the URL correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48028 (10Andre Klapper) [10:33:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10esanders) [10:35:51] 03(mod) Significant time optimisation of WordLevelDiff._split - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47989 +comment (10bnagaev) [10:41:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:44:45] 03(NEW) Error creating thumbnail for specific PDF files on Commons: "Killed" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48041 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PdfHandler; () [10:44:57] 03(mod) Error creating PDF on Commons: "convert: no decode delegate for this image format" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48007 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:44:59] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 (10Andre Klapper) [10:45:06] 03(mod) Error creating thumbnail for specific PDF files on Commons: "Killed" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48041 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:45:07] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 (10Andre Klapper) [10:45:21] 03(mod) Occasional segmentation fault on PDF thumbnail generation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41665 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:45:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10esanders) [10:58:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10esanders) [11:02:46] 03(mod) Opera Mini: Cannot focus search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47567 +comment (10aklapper) [11:14:08] @notufy csteipp [11:14:15] @notify csteipp [11:14:15] I will notify you, when I see csteipp around here [11:15:05] hi anubhav how is your day going? [11:15:18] pretty hectic [11:15:41] 03(mod) possible RL error from GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47839 (10Željko Filipin) [11:15:55] 03(mod) Echo: Error "Missing modules: ext.gettingstarted.echo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47874 (10Željko Filipin) [11:18:01] sumanah: Do all the mentors view a person GSoC application, or just the mentors related to the project [11:18:02] ? [11:18:42] anubhav: Any Wikimedia mentor who is signed up in Melange can view your proposal. [11:18:45] !gsoc [11:18:45] Start a draft on mediawiki.org. In April, submit it to GSoC officially via Melange www.google-melange.com . Then, as you get feedback in IRC and on the wikitech-l mailing list, revise both wiki & Melange versions. Thus there's a public copy that everyone can see + an official copy the mentors see & evaluate. Also, Melange may crash at the 'last minute', so don't wait. Check the Melange FAQ & en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ [11:19:09] anubhav: the best way is to have a Melange proposal and to sync it up with a public proposal ^^^ . You want lots of exposure and feedback [11:19:20] I have. [11:19:34] Doing some last minute changes Quim recommeded [11:19:48] sumanah: hello [11:19:54] hi Rahul211 [11:21:24] sumanah: The number of slots that an organisation is granted is decided on what basis? [11:21:52] Rahul211: Google has a lot of factors in mind. [11:21:58] Rahul211: good question. I also want to know that thing [11:22:43] Rahul211: factors include: how many applicants the organization got; how many GOOD applicants we got; how many mentors we have signed up; how many students we've had in previous years; whether those students passed and whether they said in their evaluations that they had a good experience; whether the org has been acting nicely or being a jerk [11:22:49] (I'm sure there are more factors) [11:23:07] Ah, here we are: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations [11:24:20] including: "Mailing list and IRC participation. Are you answering student questions non-stop on IRC or providing helpful advice on the mailing lists? If you are, that shows us that you're committed to the success of the program and that you're already highly engaged. Chances are that we'll bump up your allocations if we can." Hmm, I have been helping a lot of students on #gsoc in the past week by critiquing their proposals; that might have an effe [11:24:21] ct [11:24:22] effect [11:25:36] yeah sumanah that will sure benefit us :) [11:25:51] sumanah: hip hip hurray! [11:26:01] It might. But even if it doesn't, it's a good thing to help people improve their proposals [11:26:33] sumanah: plus we have got the ladies partcipating in OPW too, so i guess more selections this time [11:26:35] I am especially glad that I've been able to remind novice developers of the importance of i18n, accessibility, gender-neutral language, thorough testing, etc. [11:26:40] sumanah: have you seen my proposal now ?? I added lots of stuff [11:27:51] Rahul211: Wikimedia Foundation pays for OPW stipends out of our own pocket; Google pays for GSoC. This is one reason we encourage women who are students and who want to work on code to apply to both, in case we get enough GSoC slots to take them [11:28:01] harshkothari: no I haven't seen it in about a day. link? [11:28:15] sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Harsh4101991/GSoC_2013 [11:29:08] harshkothari: "A Form ( HTML + jQuery )" can you find the spacing error here? [11:30:14] sumanah: thats true :) I am done with my proposal, fingers crossed now. [11:30:15] sumanah: means ? remove spaces in bracket ? [11:30:21] harshkothari: yes. [11:30:33] Rahul211: have you been able to find a mentor? [11:31:04] sumanah: done [11:31:35] sumanah: oh yes I have 2. Micheal Dale and Matt Flaschen + Amgine is Wiktionary's community liaison for my project [11:31:54] Michael, not Micheal. [11:32:23] sumanah: I have already got two without searching too much :) [11:32:23] sumanah: my bad [11:33:01] harshkothari: when I do a control-F in your proposal for "( " I still see at least one [11:33:45] harshkothari: how do i change my nick on IRC? [11:34:09] Rahul211: you use /nick [11:34:50] Rahul211: or if you are using IRC client there is option in menu about nick you can also change from that [11:35:21] ok, I see it's fixed now :) thanks, that is more readable [11:35:22] sumanah: now you will find 0 result "( " for this :) [11:35:50] harshkothari: "Creation of BOT - For automatic updation. BOT will run" why is BOT capitalized? is it an acronym? [11:36:17] harshkothari: "I am a promoter of 1st MediaWiki group of India. I have localized and ported different gadgets in Gujarati Wikipedia as well as other indic wiki. i.e HotCat, Reference Tooltip, PopUps." link, link, link. Don't just state these things - demonstrate them by linking to proof [11:36:38] harshkothari: "by Media Wiki.This project is One of the significant project for Language Engineering team of WikiMedia.This tool will help them analyse the details of various features of individual languages." there are a lot of errors here [11:37:03] harshkothari: add a space after each period . [11:37:04] nopes not acronym [11:37:18] 1) you need a space after a period. 2) MediaWiki & Wikimedia, not "Media Wiki" and "WikiMedia". 3) don't capitalize "One". 4) singular/plural disagreement [11:39:09] sumanah: okies correcting those details [11:39:13] * harshkothari doing changes [11:39:41] harshkothari: overall, throughout your proposal, when you have a capital letter -- and it's not the start of a sentence -- ask yourself why you are capitalizing it. In English we only capitalize letters if we have a reason, e.g., if it's a name like Linux or India. For emphasis use italics or bold. [11:44:41] sumanah: a silly question, why is google using the same logo for this years SoC? [11:45:05] Rahul21: You mean the same as last year? I had not noticed. You could ask them. I don't work for them [11:46:01] sumanah: sure. [11:48:12] 03(NEW) Mirnor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [11:48:43] 03(mod) Make GENDER ignore everything after slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47958 +comment (10p.selitskas) [11:49:29] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 summary (10Ankit Maity) [11:49:46] until git-review gets fixed, should git fetch gerrit be always run before I start working with the local repo? [11:49:49] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 (10Ankit Maity) [11:50:03] s/always/every time/ [11:50:32] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 +comment (101994constant) [12:01:36] sumanah: Hanging in there? :) [12:01:46] GorillaWarfare: I am! you're in #gsoc too, eh? [12:02:00] GorillaWarfare: :-) Glad to have your company, it's always a cheering thing to have [12:02:34] Yeah, thought I'd join to watch the final melee :P [12:02:39] :D [12:02:45] eponysterical [12:02:51] (that is, it's funny because of your name) [12:03:09] Heh :) [12:03:42] I promise I won't start ambushing anyone who tries to apply for other Wikimedia slots [12:03:52] hahaha thank you [12:07:49] sumanah: For the endorsements side of things, should I add a section to my proposal? To the talk page? Not at all? I'm not terribly clear on how people are supposed to endorse proposals. [12:08:16] Hey GorillaWarfare - I think we are not very strict on that, but the proposal itself makes sense to me [12:08:54] anybody with Mediawiki-vagrant experience here? [12:09:03] "vagrant up" looks stuck to me [12:09:07] http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/vagrant [12:09:08] * GorillaWarfare nods [12:09:18] sumanah: Do you know about STiki ? [12:09:39] "Triggered 'refresh' from 2 events" is one of the last steps, according to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mediawiki-vagrant/Initial_run [12:09:48] hi anubhav - I think I've heard of it. Why do you ask? [12:10:33] It is actually a bot that classify pages on wikipedia. My project is an anti-spam extension for wikis. [12:10:41] ori-l: any chance that you are awake? :) [12:10:54] It would be great if I could integrate the data gathering from STiki [12:11:31] anubhav: ok. Thought experiment: if you wanted to get in touch with the STiki community, how would you do that? [12:12:16] cool, I got it [12:12:20] Silly of mw to ask [12:12:22] *me [12:13:29] anubhav: Hey, I saw your proposal. Have you considered using Huggle edits also? [12:13:46] No, I would look into that [12:14:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Huggle (link if you need it) [12:14:45] I don't have any firm proof of this, but I'm pretty involved in anti-vandalism editing and I feel like Huggle is much more widely-used than STiki. It might give you better data to work with. [12:14:51] Just a thought, though :) [12:15:21] GorillaWarfare: thanks [12:15:31] Sure [12:18:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Edit source" tab doesn't become 'active' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47452 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:19:34] 03(NEW) Activate Flagged Revisions for modules namespace on Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48043 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [12:28:57] 03(mod) Make GENDER ignore everything after slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47958 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:30:37] is codesniffer broken? https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-phpcs-HEAD/9139/console [12:30:53] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:31:22] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 +comment (10aklapper) [12:32:51] 03(mod) Activate Flagged Revisions for modules namespace on Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48043 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:33:19] 03(mod) Activate Flagged Revisions for modules namespace on Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48043 +patch-in-gerrit (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:35:05] sumanah: Can I integrate my extension with abuse filter, so that the diff text which are classified as spam or ham can be shown. Like this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [12:35:49] 03(NEW) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [12:36:18] anubhav: What does your mentor say? [12:37:50] Actually Chris told me use the abuse filter extension for logging, rather than implementing that feature on my own. I am yet to learn how abuse filter works, so I wanted to know if I can display diff of text in logs [12:38:11] csteipp is not around now [12:40:32] GorillaWarfare: your proposal is good :) [12:40:43] Thanks, harshkothari! [12:40:54] 03(mod) Echo broken icw Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47932 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [12:41:18] GorillaWarfare: what is logic behind Gorilla Warfare ?? [12:41:38] Humans are scared of Gorillas [12:42:03] Reedy: Ha Ha agree :) [12:42:03] anubhav: Then maybe you should say something in your proposal about how you will be investigating that possibility. [12:42:29] Hah, it's really not a very good story -- I should probably make up a better one... [12:42:30] I have mentioned it [12:42:43] I joined Wikipedia 7 years ago, and edited for the first year as User:Theunicyclegirl [12:43:06] But I changed, and then immediately forgot, my password after about a year on that account, and didn't have an email associated with it [12:43:10] GorillaWarfare: ohh again unique username :) [12:43:14] And when that happens on Wikipedia, there's no way to recover the account [12:43:15] in the community bonding period I have chose to fix two AbuseFilter bugs to learn how it works [12:43:30] So I had to just make a new one, and for some reason, "GorillaWarfare" popped into mind as a clever one. [12:43:58] I used to be very careful about my identity online (partially because I was, what, 14?), so using my real name was out of the question. [12:44:35] GorillaWarfare: ohhh [12:44:37] Nod [12:48:24] And that is the less-than-thrilling story of the username [12:49:51] GorillaWarfare: most importantly: can you ride a unicycle?! [12:49:53] that is awesome [12:50:02] I can indeed [12:51:58] GorillaWarfare: haha, your story is worth the scroll up :) [12:52:09] :) [12:54:54] GorillaWarfare: done with your proposal ? [12:55:28] Rahul21: More or less, yeah. Just made a few last-minute changes, but I think it's ready to go. [12:56:38] Rahul21: you ?? [12:57:03] GorillaWarfare: Thats nice :) While drafting your proposal on melange, did you have issues with the editor? [12:57:17] harshkothari: yup, it is ready to go! [12:57:35] Rahul21: I still editing :( [12:57:36] 03(mod) mediawiki-vagrant virtual machine should be ready for running Selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46920 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:57:55] Rahul21: Not really. It was a bit of a pain changing everything from wikimarkup to HTML, but that wasn't the editor's fault. Why do you ask? [13:02:21] which user needs to own Localsettings.php? www-data? [13:02:32] 03(NEW) Echo: "link" notifications should not trigger on redirects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48045 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [13:02:57] GorillaWarfare: I had a torrid time :( [13:03:05] roxene1221: means ?? [13:03:06] How so? [13:03:38] roxene1221: whatever your webserver is running us [13:03:42] Rahul21: Also, I think you might mean "horrid" :P http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/torrid [13:03:45] I would be guessing www-data [13:03:54] I uploaded LocalSettings to filezilla, than, like I always have to do, i changed it to 644, but the wiki just shows up blank/500 [13:04:13] GorillaWarfare: typo [13:04:17] 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [13:04:18] * GorillaWarfare nods [13:04:22] if it is www-data, what is the dafault password? [13:04:50] also, does anyone know of a better GUI FTP client? [13:05:34] do any of the absentee landlord files need to be anything other than 644? [13:05:44] roxene1221: I actually find the CLI to be easier for FTP -- have you tried using that? [13:05:50] roxene1221, withc plateform? why you don't like filezilla? [13:06:14] you have also cyberduck [13:06:36] i'm using transmit and sometimes filezilla. [13:06:48] I do not like FTP through Filezilla, because all of the permissions are always messed up, and uploading files to the wiki never works right--even though I am editing using NPP and not notepad [13:07:01] what is CLI? [13:07:10] roxene1221: Command line interface [13:07:11] !g CLI [13:07:11] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,CLI,n,z [13:07:35] !google CLI [13:07:35] https://www.google.com/search?q=CLI [13:07:37] CLI <3 [13:07:50] Mack Cali Realty Corp????? [13:07:50] roxene1221: What operating system do you use? [13:08:05] I connect on windows to linux [13:08:21] hold on... [13:08:24] roxene1221: There's a good reference for using FTP on the command line on Windows here: http://www.nsftools.com/tips/MSFTP.htm [13:10:19] @notify InezK [13:10:19] i tried that, but I need a gui [13:10:20] I will notify you, when I see InezK around here [13:11:22] GorillaWarfare: there is no need for that... [13:11:31] the issue isn't with the ftp in most cases [13:12:14] USEagency: does it work if you chmod it to something like 777 temporarily [13:12:29] p858snake|l: S/he asked about a better FTP client; I was just making the suggestion. [13:13:07] !debian [13:13:07] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [13:13:58] sorry, someone, GOVERNMENT was trying to hack my account, and i had to change my password [13:14:12] o.O [13:15:51] USEagency: You use FTP and you are worried about people spying on your connection? [13:15:52] The government already have your password, they can read it from your mind [13:16:14] p858snake|l: Heh [13:16:34] Hi. I recently upgraded from mw 1.16.2 to 1.20.4. There were no apparent problems with the update. But sometime today, the SideBar has gone, well corrupt is the only work I can think of that fits. If I edit the page the saved page is there when I edit it again, but no updates appear. Have purged the main page and truncated the object cache: Example of some of the 'corrupt' HTML comming out herer: http://www.apaste.info/1p7u [13:16:34] not yet! [13:16:43] Reedy: Ssh... stop leaking that classified info [13:16:54] fuck, i've said too much now [13:17:08] and they can't get me in my copper-lined room, which i scan for bugs every day! [13:17:25] That's what you think [13:17:28] They use the Greys then [13:17:38] if air can get in, they can get in [13:18:00] not will all of the landmines and automatic machine guns! [13:18:09] 03(NEW) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [13:18:15] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 (10Nemo) [13:18:15] You've obviously never heard of the Greys [13:18:56] nothing on Alex Jone's infowars --there's a war on your mind about greys [13:19:29] there is no proof of aliens, either [13:19:42] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 +design (10p858snake) [13:19:57] i'll be back in a minute, i just have to reasseble my mp5... [13:19:59] USEagency: The stargate is real. [13:21:49] "Stargate fictional universe" [13:21:57] and alex jones said nothing [13:22:22] We just used the tv show as a cover story [13:22:55] How do you know Alex Jones isn't conspiring against you? [13:23:46] because he is the main person on infowars [13:24:01] Double agent? [13:24:04] Quadruple agent? [13:24:09] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:24:34] I have listening devices in his "studio" which have not recorded anything. [13:24:49] That's not very nice [13:24:54] Nemo_bis: you just made me sad :( [13:25:01] good, my new monthly extra security system is here! [13:26:07] Hi [13:26:45] Hello [13:26:45] In the new 'students' table on the GSoC page, there's a section for contributions [13:26:57] let's take this to #AlexJones_is_not_a_double_agent -- this is not mediawiki related [13:27:08] hi pragunbhutani [13:27:13] Nemo_bis: hm, you have some misnested tags on that talk page [13:27:18] sumanah: hi sumanah [13:27:29] Nemo_bis: they might be confusing the regular expression i'm using to avoid thissort of issues [13:27:37] Nemo_bis: but don't save it now [13:27:46] sumanah: does that mean contributions to open source in general? or to mediawiki in particular? [13:28:00] 03(NEW) Watchlist lists every change to Wikidata entries of watched pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48047 normal; Wikimedia: Wikidata; () [13:28:49] pragunbhutani: in that particular table, you should link to the specific task your mentor gave you to do, a MediaWiki-specific task [13:29:03] if you're confused about that, email your mentor and Quim [13:29:40] sumanah: ah okay, I'll link it to my gerrit account then [13:29:51] will run it by my mentor, still [13:29:53] OK [13:32:50] 03(mod) convertPlural makes using 0= and 1= rules impossible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46422 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:33:13] alright, my new security system is installed and the people who installed it fired! [13:33:28] sumanah: Are we supposed to let people who've supported our proposals know that they should endorse? I don't want to canvass :/ [13:33:30] and my new secure phone line is also in! [13:34:01] 03(mod) Allow online-only institutions, with no standard country / city - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47957 +comment (10ragesoss) [13:34:55] USEagency: McAfee? [13:36:12] GorillaWarfare: it is ok to canvass for this. [13:36:13] no, my phone line is connected to sattelites in space, and it bounces off multiple stations, world wide, including 10 VOIP, one station in china, another in north korea, and AT&T [13:36:16] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 +comment (10matma.rex) [13:37:04] MatmaRex: I purged it, wrong? [13:37:09] and it also scrambles my voice [13:37:22] Alrighty, if you say so :) [13:37:43] and it has a wire-tap detector [13:37:48] Should our mentors go on that list, or is their endorsement sort of assumed? [13:39:08] Nemo_bis: well, a null edit, then [13:39:45] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 +comment (10federicoleva) [13:42:10] MatmaRex: no, purge worked, I just hope I didn't destroy your test case [13:42:22] ah, okay [13:42:29] i copied it ot my own wiki in the meantime anyway [13:42:34] and i see what's happening anyway [13:42:42] there's an ugly regex i hacked in with the editsection change [13:43:00] because of the multi-level cache setup WMF uses [13:43:23] and this regex fails to match here, because there's an unclosed , and Tidy intersperses this span with

heading [13:43:33] and basically i hereby refuse to deal with this. :P [13:44:31] Hey GorillaWarfare - go ahead and have your mentors go on there, it can't hurt IMO [13:47:02] Okeydoke [13:49:02] 03(mod) New edit section link on the left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 normal->trivial; -design (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:58:12] 03(mod) SpecialPreferences:

should not be inide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33438 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [13:58:26] 03(mod) SpecialPreferences:

should not be inside - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33438 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [13:58:57] 03(mod) Delete all redundant "MediaWiki" pages for system messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43917 summary (10Nemo) [14:05:46] 03(mod) Support inline player for MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18852 +comment (10mah) [14:10:57] 03(mod) the 'and' message often sounds not so natural in Hebrew, and maybe other languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46106 +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [14:12:50] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeErrors in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:15:58] 03(mod) Provide option for Arabic to choose between Gregorian and Assyrian month names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44845 summary; +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [14:23:54] 03(mod) mediawiki-vagrant virtual machine should be ready for running Selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46920 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:29:19] 03(NEW) Util.clone doesn't deep-clone KV objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48048 normal; Parsoid: General; () [14:30:37] 03(mod) Add component for wikidata labs project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47140 +comment (10aklapper) [14:34:57] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10Jeremy Coffman) [14:39:30] 03(mod) wikidata.org always uses uselang=en for "Donate" link, MediaWiki:Sitesupport-url/lang doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 +i18n; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:43:22] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeErrors in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 +comment (10Dalba) [14:43:38] 03(mod) mediawiki-vagrant virtual machine should be ready for running Selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46920 (10Željko Filipin) [14:43:53] 03(mod) Support inline player for MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18852 +comment (10mah) [14:47:26] how can i find out if my user-agent has been blocked somehow? [14:47:36] 03(mod) wikidata.org always uses uselang=en for "Donate" link, MediaWiki:Sitesupport-url/lang doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 -i18n +shell; +comment (10Liangent) [14:47:40] Bugday on MediaWiki installer bugs starts in 15 minutes in #wikimedia-office - anybody can join and help retesting some Installer bug reports. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/20130503 for more info. [14:47:52] xorgate: you mean from using the MediaWiki API for a specific instance of MediaWiki? [14:48:32] sumanah uhm i suppose so (?) i'm getting only timeouts in my app, not in my browser [14:48:44] wikipedia, in this case [14:48:51] xorgate: for which MediaWiki instance? ah thanks [14:49:01] What user agent is your app using? [14:49:04] 03(mod) Add "sitesupport-url" to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 summary (10Liangent) [14:49:21] Reedy "Android word search puzzle, codestare@gmail.com" [14:49:37] 03(mod) Option to disable 'Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48034 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [14:50:12] The simplest way to test it is to temporarily use the one your browser does [14:50:27] I can't remember what we send/display when a user-agent is blocked [14:50:34] 03(mod) Incorrect sorting for interwiki prefix nb at nn.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46485 -wikidata ; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:51:21] but surely there's some blacklist somewhere, would it be public? [14:53:30] Maybe, maybe not [14:53:32] 03(mod) New edit section link left of heading due to $wgUseTidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 summary (10Andre Klapper) [14:55:15] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support many languages including Hindi, Arabic, Malayalam, Tamil - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 summary; +comment (10praveenp) [14:56:21] also, would it automatically timeout all requests? or only to certain parts of the api. currently action=opensearch works (albeit slowly) but action=query does not [14:57:50] Have you looked at the response headers ? [14:58:44] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User-Agent_policy [14:58:52] 03(mod) improve sort order in entity selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45351 +comment (10nilesh) [14:59:05] xorgate: the servers are having issues right now [14:59:11] (the Wikimedia servers) [14:59:36] so that might just be it [14:59:38] MatmaRex oh my.. [14:59:49] how can i check this? [14:59:56] http://status.wikimedia.org/ [14:59:58] thanks [15:00:01] or join #wikimedia-tech [15:01:15] 03(mod) Cannot disable signature pref - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33944 +comment (10Liangent) [15:02:10] 03(mod) New edit section link left of heading due to stale parser cache interacting with $wgUseTidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48046 summary (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:03:43] 03(mod) Time separator for Slovene - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40942 +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [15:06:03] 03(mod) Links/URLs inside of collapsible toggles don't work, only expands/collapses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46848 -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:21:15] sumanah: I've made some changes to my proposal to include specifics (Synopsis and Deliverables) [15:21:23] I'd appreciate your feedback! [15:21:38] nitpicking is welcome :) [15:22:34] anyone else here have a bit of time to help pragunbhutani by nitpicking? :S [15:22:38] I mean :D [15:23:06] Would be a big help! [15:23:11] link? [15:24:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pragunbhutani/GSoC_2013_Proposal [15:25:23] 03(mod) Links/URLs inside of collapsible toggles don't work, only expands/collapses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46848 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:25:50] 03(mod) Extensions should have possibility to issue messages in the user interface language without touching content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39663 +comment (10Pavel Selitskas) [15:26:14] pragunbhutani: you responded to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Pragunbhutani/GSoC_2013_Proposal ? [15:26:18] if so please say so on the talk page [15:26:26] 03(mod) UI issue in the 'Your name' and 'Password' fields in the 'Name' page - IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26689 +comment (10mah) [15:26:36] "For queries,feedback and discussion" need space after comma [15:26:37] 03(mod) UI issue in the 'Your name' and 'Password' fields in the 'Name' page - IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26689 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [15:26:55] "Mediawiki" MediaWiki [15:27:18] pragunbhutani: do you already have devices to test on? [15:27:33] pragunbhutani: will you work in a branch and merge it periodically? when? [15:28:11] 03(NEW) Error creating a tool project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48049 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [15:28:37] I've responded to some of the points, looking at the others right now [15:28:46] pragunbhutani: are there any guidelines re accessibility (for people with disabilities) on mobile devices? if so how will you make use of those? [15:28:48] sumanah: I have 5 devices to test on at the moment [15:28:56] pragunbhutani: saying that will be good [15:29:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10jforrester) [15:29:21] (in the proposal) [15:30:21] 03(mod) Extensions should have possibility to issue messages in the user interface language without touching content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39663 +comment (10p.selitskas) [15:30:33] - accessibility [15:30:34] 03(mod) Links/URLs inside of collapsible toggles don't work, only expands/collapses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46848 (10Krinkle) [15:30:38] - merging [15:30:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10jforrester) [15:30:45] - devices to test on [15:30:50] okay, let me look into those [15:32:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: jQuery bug in regex matching causes corruption of data-parsoid on ingest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47737 +comment (10jforrester) [15:35:55] 03(mod) Links/URLs inside of collapsible toggles don't work, only expands/collapses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46848 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:37:22] 03(mod) Installer: Fail gracefully when XML requisites are not met (currently only a blank page in browser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42205 minor->major; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:37:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.Surface.getSelectionRect() throws errors in Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47772 -patch-in-gerrit ; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:51:27] 03(mod) Installer: Fail gracefully when XML requisites are not met (currently only a blank page in browser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42205 +comment (10aklapper) [15:51:49] 03(NEW) deleteEqualMessages: Implement ability to run on all langcode subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48050 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; () [15:51:50] 03(mod) Delete all redundant "MediaWiki" pages for system messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43917 (10Krinkle) [15:52:03] 03(mod) deleteEqualMessages: Implement ability to run on all langcode subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48050 (10Krinkle) [15:55:59] 03(mod) deleteEqualMessages: Implement ability to run on all langcode subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48050 +comment (10Krinkle) [15:56:41] 03(mod) deleteEqualMessages: Implement ability to run on all langcode subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48050 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:56:43] 03(mod) Delete all redundant "MediaWiki" pages for system messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43917 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:57:31] 03(mod) Failed db upgrade from 1.14: Error in fetchObject(): Unknown column 'log_user_text' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29929 +comment (10aklapper) [15:58:20] 03(mod) deleteEqualMessages: Implement ability to run on all langcode subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48050 normal->major (10Krinkle) [15:58:29] MatmaRex, thanks for fixing my commit msg :) unfortunately I only noticed that after sending an update to remove an extra newline, so I had to re-edit the commit msg to reintroduce your fix :P [15:58:53] 03(mod) Special:MovePage's "Reason" field should be a one-line input, not a textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13627 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:58:53] waldir: :) [16:00:46] 03(mod) Failed db upgrade from 1.14: Error in fetchObject(): Unknown column 'log_user_text' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29929 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:03:40] 03(mod) Text overflow outside of box at right of installer screens for long string without linebreaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28304 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:18:09] 03(mod) Special:MovePage's "Reason" field should be a one-line input, not a textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13627 +comment (10matma.rex) [16:28:10] Matmarex: you are touching the accursed bug with a stick! [16:28:41] duh [16:28:58] i'm in fact just submitting a revert + whitespace changes [16:29:08] i literally did this with `git revert`, in fact. [16:32:22] 03(mod) Echo: "link" notifications should not trigger on redirects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48045 (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [16:32:47] 03(mod) Echo: "link" notifications should not trigger on redirects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48045 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:35:27] 03(mod) Special:MovePage's "Reason" field should be a one-line input, not a textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13627 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:35:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10esanders) [16:35:33] bawolff: ^ ;) [16:36:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Removing and replacing bullets adds blank lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48051 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [16:36:31] brion: i just reverted your commit! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62163/ [16:36:51] whee [16:37:40] 03(mod) jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46647 +comment (10Quim Gil) [16:42:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10jforrester) [16:46:20] 03(mod) Cannot install mediawiki when database admin user password ends with spaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30524 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:46:58] 03(mod) Various mobile pages consistently redirect to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Missing_wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47807 (10Jon) [16:47:00] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10qgil) [16:50:41] arrbee, will a transliteration input method need a specialised onscreen keyboard ? [16:51:54] diadara: umm.. could you elaborate a bit on that? [16:53:25] 03(mod) Flood flag for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48013 (10Legoktm) [16:55:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting text and hitting Function keys, PageUp/Down, End/Insert deletes the selected text in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48022 summary (10James Forrester) [16:55:28] 03(mod) Visual Editor : Selecting text and pressing Function keys, PageUp/Down, End/Insert shows some character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48039 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:55:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting text and hitting Function keys, PageUp/Down, End/Insert deletes the selected text in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48022 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:57:06] 03(mod) Text overflow outside of box at right of installer screens for long string without linebreaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28304 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [16:58:14] 03(mod) Inconsistent button sizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46804 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:58:17] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [17:04:03] 03(mod) Inconsistent button sizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46804 +comment (10Jon) [17:05:30] Anyone here running MediaWiki on nginx? [17:06:07] Only in gsoc do you get messages formal enough to use the word "sir" but not formal enough to spell out the word "you" [17:06:34] Hahaha bawolff [17:07:09] haha [17:07:09] phuzion: yep! I am :) [17:07:21] grv99: Have you compared its performance to apache's? [17:07:37] Better question: Native nginx or nginx in front of apache? [17:08:04] phuzion: sorry, I have not tried it on apache in any way [17:08:12] Hmm, ok [17:09:14] So, I've got the option of going native nginx or apache behind nginx. I want performance, but I also want stability. I haven't done nginx before, so I'm kinda up in the air about it to be honest. [17:10:35] nginx is better than apache in performance, atleast thats what I experienced. [17:10:53] 03(NEW) Exclude from print by category does not work any more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48052 normal; MediaWiki: Templates; () [17:11:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:12:12] phuzion: if you want to give a quick try and are using windows, then try this http://winginx.com/download [17:12:35] its easy to setup!! [17:12:37] grv99: Don't need winginx, I've got AWS and whatnot to test on if I need [17:12:53] thanks, though [17:12:57] :) [17:13:18] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10Quim Gil) [17:14:35] 03(mod) Opera Mini issues due to javascript (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47572 +comment (10Jon) [17:15:19] 03(mod) Opera Mini: Cannot focus search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47567 +comment (10Jon) [17:15:31] 03(mod) Opera Mini: watch star - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47568 +comment (10Jon) [17:15:38] 03(mod) Opera Mini: Toast messages do not disappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47569 +comment (10Jon) [17:15:47] 03(mod) Opera Mini: References rendering issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47570 +comment (10Jon) [17:16:49] 03(mod) Opera Mini issues due to javascript (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47572 (10Liangent) [17:16:50] 03(mod) Mobile page is "too wide" and can't scroll horizontally in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46726 (10Liangent) [17:17:02] 03(mod) Opera Mini issues due to javascript (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47572 (10Liangent) [17:17:04] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007 (10Liangent) [17:17:49] 03(mod) Opera Mini issues due to javascript (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47572 +tracking (10Liangent) [17:18:39] 03(mod) Opera Mini issues due to javascript (tracking bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47572 (10Liangent) [17:18:40] 03(mod) Mobile page is "too wide" and can't scroll horizontally in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46726 (10Liangent) [17:19:23] 03(mod) commons.wikimedia.org doesn't auto-redirect to mobile site on mobile devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43628 normal->15enhancement (10Jon) [17:20:15] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 (10bsitu) [17:21:22] 03(mod) Entity suggester for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46555 +comment (10qgil) [17:21:32] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 (10bsitu) [17:25:25] 03(NEW) GSoC 2013 Curriculum Wiki Proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48053 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [17:25:58] 03(mod) Entity suggester for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46555 +comment (10nilesh) [17:27:28] arrbee, sorry for dropping off,like if I am using english to transliterate to something like malayalam, I wouldn't need an visual key board (may be a standard english one if I am on touch screen device) [17:28:45] So , a visual keyboard is needed for directly entering ,non latin scripts [17:28:51] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 +comment (10rkaldari) [17:29:37] hi! :) [17:29:53] 03(mod) Allow online-only institutions, with no standard country / city - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47957 +comment (10pete.public.email) [17:30:00] i've noticed that mediawiki adds

and

when renderin my templates... [17:30:45] Usually it does that in response to newlines [17:30:47] i want to make templates that are shown like "medals" of some stuff, so i would like to have {{template1}}{{template2}} to be shown side by side [17:31:36] Try making the source of template1 and template2 both be one line [17:31:49] thanks! i'll try that [17:32:10] 03(mod) Inconsistent button sizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46804 +comment (10jrobson) [17:35:01] diadara: ahh… that way. [17:36:17] bawolff: that didn't work. they are less tall now, though [17:36:29] Hi. I have a problem with a "broken" sidebar (mediawiki v1.20.4). I can edit and save the SideBar page, but no visual update to any other pages happen, also the rendering of what *is* displaying is strange. [17:36:38] Well that is progress [17:36:58] diadara: I would say that is not necessary. However onscreen keyboards do not have the restriction of a hardware keyboard. [17:37:16] Shinobicl: is the wiki public? I could maybe take a look [17:37:22] i tried to put   between both {{template1}} {{template2}} but the are much more separated now [17:37:30] bawolff, sadly, not [17:37:36] Unbeliever: strange how [17:37:48] diadara: So its your decision if you'd like to work differntly on that idea or stick to the conventional mode. [17:37:56]
Binario: {{{1}}}
[17:38:16] all the templates are just the same, just changes in color [17:39:00] Shinobicl: div might cause newline (not familar with how displat:table works though) [17:39:20] ok, i'll see what i can do, thanks again! [17:39:26] Try changing display:table to display:inline [17:39:36] ^ [17:39:56] or display:inline-block if you want to set fixed width, height or margins [17:40:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:40:43] changing from div to span would also help :P [17:40:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Edit source" tab doesn't become 'active' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47452 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:40:47] display:inline made the trick :) [17:40:50] thanks!!!!! [17:41:09] Vulpix: I must say I have not kept up with the times with all these new fancy css tricks [17:41:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:41:49] that's OK if you still want to support IE ;) [17:42:17] :p [17:44:58] 03(mod) "Undefined" uploads via mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47103 +comment (10jrobson) [17:48:06] Hi folks! For the purposes of the next ~75 min (till the GSoC deadline) I am pretending to be qgil [17:49:36] hmm [17:49:53] hi qgil! :D [17:49:59] hi grv99 ! [17:50:05] (she says in a Catalan accent) [17:50:29] this chat is always interesting than anything else :P [17:50:38] * sumanah laughs [17:51:28] Lol [17:51:46] More seriously, if people have GSoC questions they can ask me [17:51:51] sumanah: Oh, is that what qgil's accent is? I've always had trouble placing it. [17:51:58] GorillaWarfare: :D [17:52:14] bawolff: here is an example of some of the HTML that is generated: http://www.apaste.info/1p7u [17:52:42] it looks sort of like encoded characters but with dots instead of percent [17:53:41] what was originaly comments in the wiki text are now displaying in the sidebar [17:53:46] GorillaWarfare: I would not know from his voice alone. Quim is one of the contributors to Catalan Wikipedia in case you ever want to ask him what that community is like. (Also for the first several years I knew him I was mispronouncing his last name) [17:53:53] (so embarrassed) [17:54:10] How is it pronounced? [17:54:38] GorillaWarfare, like Kim Jill [17:54:41] :) [17:54:55] Good to know, for future reference :) [17:54:59] qgil_away: I know you are _away, but has siddharth patel already submitted an application into melange? [17:55:05] qgil_away: D'zhil or Zhil? [17:55:18] * bawolff always assumed his first name was different [17:55:25] Ly pronounce d [17:55:57] xorgate: I like your nick. :) [17:56:31] xorgate: electronics guy ?? :) [17:56:38] Zz'dil [17:56:38] Unbeliever: so for some reason the wikitext isnt being processed. Can you put in a pastebin the contents of mediawiki:sidebar [17:56:39] ^ :D [17:56:44] harshkothari: remember not to assume gender, please. [17:57:01] bawolff: the ones that is actually saved? [17:57:12] sumanah, Patel: yes [17:57:16] thanks. [17:57:27] sumanah: yeah sorry for that [17:57:30] Unbeliever: like the wikitext content [17:57:30] !gsoc [17:57:31] Start a draft on mediawiki.org. In April, submit it to GSoC officially via Melange www.google-melange.com . Then, as you get feedback in IRC and on the wikitech-l mailing list, revise both wiki & Melange versions. Thus there's a public copy that everyone can see + an official copy the mentors see & evaluate. Also, Melange may crash at the 'last minute', so don't wait. Check the Melange FAQ & en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ [17:57:56] * bawolff always assumes gender and usually gets it wrong [17:58:17] bawolff: same here :) [17:58:18] I used to think both erik and amgine were female [17:58:29] Neither are [17:58:43] my inbox is getting spammed with gsoc updates notifications :) [17:58:55] bawolff: yes I can .. some of it looks a bit strange. Its almost as if one of the Wiuki edotrs I added borked it. the '%' encoded chars were not added by me: http://www.apaste.info/1yXk [17:59:02] o/ Micru [17:59:11] Wiuki edotrs = Wiki Editors [17:59:16] hi GorillaWarfare [17:59:34] Micru: I've turned those emails off now, much more peaceful [17:59:46] GorillaWarfare: are you applying to both Gsoc and OPW? [17:59:51] Micru: it will stop in about an hour in case you want to leave it on [17:59:55] (the flood I mean) [18:00:04] Unbeliever: that is probably your problem [18:00:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be displayed for anonymous users in the alerts box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47842 +comment (10esanders) [18:00:25] marktraceur, sumanah: ok, I will wait one hour then... [18:00:25] Remove the stuff in comments [18:00:25] i doubt the gsoc tool has any notification system for comments.. i never get one [18:00:26] Micru: has Aditya Sastry submitted a proposal via Melange? [18:00:34] grv99: check your notifications settings. [18:00:49] Micru: I am indeed. [18:01:01] Unbeliever: indeed, the sidebar page, although it looks like wikitext, it's not wikitext. Don't put HTML comments on it [18:01:13] Unbeliever: and the external link syntax isnt used there [18:01:24] sumanah: yes, about inline comments, right? [18:01:34] !sidebar | unbeliever [18:01:34] unbeliever: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [18:01:41] Micru: yes. I want to check whether the student has actually put a proposal into Melange [18:01:43] sumanah: :P thanks [18:01:54] bawolff, Vulpix: ok I will remove them. Just a moment. [18:02:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should be able to be 'default' for some namespaces and by user preference elsewise/in others - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45871 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [18:02:30] I'm a *what?? [18:02:42] Oh, that's not a problem. [18:03:02] sumanah, how does it work with dual Gsoc-OPW candidates? And how many slots are available of each? [18:03:18] 03(mod) Exclude from print by category does not work any more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48052 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:03:33] Micru: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Selection_process#Concurrent_GSoC_.26_OPW [18:03:40] * marktraceur beats sumanah to the buzzer [18:03:42] Micru: I will need to - ok there you go [18:03:53] :D [18:04:02] Haha, Beat me too [18:04:08] Micru: TL;DR and for those in channel [18:05:04] bawolff: thanks. I will read it now [18:05:12] We'll accept OPW candidates who also apply to GSoC into GSoC first. After we've filled our GSoC slots, if there are OPW candidates who are the best candidates for that project, we'll accept them to OPW. [18:05:24] Amgine: :p [18:05:42] [18:05:42] hey people who care about Indian languages & accessibility: http://blog.nirbheek.in/2013/05/a-foss-devanagari-to-bharati-braille.html [18:06:04] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeErrors in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 +comment (10reza.energy) [18:06:16] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeErrors in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 (10reza1615) [18:06:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should be able to be 'default' for some namespaces and by user preference elsewise/in others - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45871 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:06:45] marktraceur: how many slots are there for OPW? [18:07:04] Micru: This might change. [18:07:17] 03(NEW) API: Echo should use a standard notcontinue parameter instead of notoffset + nottimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48054 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [18:07:38] sumanah: how many there were on previous editions? [18:07:48] Micru: We participated once before. [18:07:54] * bawolff laughs at not being sn api prefix [18:08:01] We had 6 interns - I believe WMF funded 4 and Google funded 2. [18:08:02] Micru: Six-ish? [18:08:04] Yes [18:08:14] ah, that sounds good [18:08:17] Micru: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_5 [18:08:28] 03(mod) Uncaught TypeErrors in fa.wikipedia after deploying second phase of wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48038 (10reza1615) [18:08:50] Last time it wasn't at the same time as GSoC -- the GNOME Foundation got some extra money from Google and used it to fund 2 more interns for us However this time, because GSoC [18:08:53] sumanah, thanks, I couldn't find that page [18:09:01] Ah, copypaste fail [18:09:32] However, this time, because GSoC is running at the same time, and because a lot of the current applicants to OPW are students who are coders, we can have a lot of them apply to GSoC as well! this is good because it saves us money [18:09:55] bawolff, Vulpix: Thank you for your help, all fixed now. [18:10:12] also I'm guessing there are a lot of employers out there who like seeing the word Google on a CV ("resume") [18:10:51] 03(mod) Need to replace mysql_*() functions for in favor of mysqli or pdo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45288 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:10:58] 03(mod) Need to replace mysql_*() functions for in favor of mysqli or pdo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45288 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:11:01] I imagine wikipedia doesnt look bad either [18:11:04] True! [18:11:32] but "I worked for Wikipedia under Google Summer of Code" wow just add The President and Elvis and Captain Planet in there! [18:11:44] ok, maybe I exaggerate [18:11:56] * GorillaWarfare volunteers to work for Captain Planet [18:11:57] * sumanah is getting silly in the remaining hour before the deadline [18:12:09] GorillaWarfare: he already has 5 mentees [18:12:15] Nooo [18:12:16] Hey my resume does say something along those lines [18:12:35] Not the captain planet part [18:12:48] GorillaWarfare: Also I suspect he'd be -1 on writing software that contributes to computers using energy [18:13:03] marktraceur: remember GreenSMW from last summer? [18:13:10] * marktraceur doesn't [18:13:12] Lol [18:13:19] SMW performance improvement! reduce energy consumption! [18:13:26] sumanah: I was still Erik-minion then, so my involvement in GSoC was nil [18:14:19] I wish someone measured average energy usage in a data center before and after for that [18:14:24] sumanah: That sounds awesome, actually [18:14:46] Almost certain the difference would be negligable, but you never know [18:15:03] marktraceur: bawolff: Nischayn22|Away did the project - maybe he tried measuring it, or knows someone who did? [18:15:32] Well the green aspect wasnt exactly the real goal [18:15:36] Oh, awesome. If Nischayn22|Away did it then I totally believe it went well [18:17:10] marktraceur: Hmm.. good point [18:18:04] GorillaWarfare: if you liked Captain Planet you might like the Warren Ellis comic "Global Frequency" [18:21:01] * Micru checking "Global Frequency" and liking it [18:21:26] 03(mod) Add "sitesupport-url" to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:22:11] 03(mod) Add "sitesupport-url" to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [18:24:55] * GorillaWarfare makes note [18:26:11] sumanah: should I add repo of github of my project in my proposal ? [18:26:34] harshkothari: yes. [18:26:37] 03(mod) Improve placement of refresh button and text for FancyCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47713 (10Steven Walling) [18:26:37] 03(mod) Excess white space between the bottom of the captcha image and refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47699 (10Steven Walling) [18:28:16] hey GorillaWarfare - I am happy to have you as an experienced contributor to Wikimedia projects contributing to MediaWiki - thank you [18:28:34] I love cross-collaboration across Wikimedia endeavors [18:28:38] Of course :) [18:28:45] and yeah, as I was just thinking aloud, I think Flow will help [18:29:13] because Flow will make it a lot easier to find people who are interested in certain topics and to share ideas with them and get initiatives going [18:29:45] including "hey do you want to make [this particular bit of MediaWiki] better? come with me! Let's sprint!" [18:29:45] Perhaps; I'm not convinced it will actively encourage editors to develop, though [18:30:14] sumanah: thanks added information :) [18:30:25] well, one thing we really need from editors is not so much coding as ALL THE OTHER BITS that make the coding not useless :-) testing! acceptance criteria! design feedback! bug triage! [18:30:26] Could do with some more efforts to find easy bugs [18:30:51] marktraceur: Or encouraging people to submit easy bugs they find [18:31:08] But that seems to be blocked by Bugzilla being... Bugzilla :P [18:31:15] The wikipedians are very good at giving pointed design feedback :p [18:31:15] I'd love more https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug additions [18:31:27] GorillaWarfare: I guess so, though I think a big part...well, one thing I've seen is really experienced developers fixing and closing easy bugs because they won't take much time [18:31:33] bawolff: but useful feedback along the lines of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/How_to_Give_Design_Feedback [18:31:40] I mean, great, we have better software now, but it's harder for a new developer to get in. [18:31:50] bawolff: Sure, though it often seems to be "I don't like this!" instead of "I don't like this and this is what I would prefer!" [18:32:01] marktraceur: Mm [18:32:12] "I don't like it, it was good but you broke it!" [18:32:24] MatmaRex: "Give me back the orange bar!" :P [18:32:26] Omg wikipedia is turning into facebook!!!!!!111 [18:32:43] GorillaWarfare: wait till the edit section links get moved on Monday [18:32:44] bawolff: !!!!! [18:32:51] MatmaRex: Oh I can't wait [18:32:57] * MatmaRex hides since it's his fault [18:33:20] MatmaRex: It's dangerous to go alone, take this [18:33:25] * marktraceur hands MatmaRex a fish [18:33:32] Actually I agree a lot with the orange bar criticism [18:34:07] marktraceur: is it a trout? [18:34:15] Echo new msg notice really is not big enough [18:34:15] a trout would be useful indeed. [18:35:10] GorillaWarfare: I don't like facebook and would prefer unicorns [18:35:16] bawolff: why ? [18:35:33] I like the new ones :) [18:35:35] MatmaRex: Thank you for moving the section edit links. It's a helpful move and I appreciate it [18:35:55] 03(mod) Entity suggester for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46555 +comment (10Puneet Kaur) [18:36:25] Harshkothari: why to which part? [18:36:42] bawolff: echo [18:36:55] MatmaRex: It's a herring [18:36:58] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10rkaldari) [18:37:02] Not red, though. That would be awful. [18:37:18] xD [18:37:28] bawolff: OMG wikipedia is turning into pump.io!!! FTFY [18:37:37] :) [18:38:12] A new message is generally a very important event. Often its of the form "stop or I will block you" it should be noticible [18:38:41] Marktraceur: if only, that eould actually be cool ;) [18:39:14] ...little bit [18:39:35] maybe it should sing that old song, "Stop ... in the name of love .... before you break my heart" [18:39:47] bawolff: But pretty large numbers of people miss the orange bar too [18:39:59] "think it o-o-ver" [18:40:20] I feel like maybe 20% of the time I block someone and explain that I (or someone else) warned them multiple times, they complain that they didn't receive the message [18:40:31] bawolff: I guess notification of message is good enough [18:40:46] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support many languages including Hindi, Arabic, Malayalam, Tamil - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 +comment (10physik) [18:40:46] ok, are there any last-minute GSoC questions here? [18:41:31] Hmm, maybe I just hate change [18:42:00] bawolff: I think that is a natural human tendency, to fear change initially and feel discomfort with it [18:42:27] bawolff: its nice to solve problems on village pump quickly I guess since they will notify [18:42:37] sumanah: perfect [18:42:53] harshkothari: what do you mean? [18:43:01] Vp is pretty well watched already [18:43:20] Particularly on enwikipedia [18:43:54] bawolff: but not on other wiki like gu wp [18:44:15] Good point [18:44:23] This is one reason that crosswiki notification is gonna be a nice thing to have [18:44:43] Is that actually going to happen? [18:45:09] they were talking about it in the metrics meeting yesterday, I believe. Any Echo^H Notifications people around to confirm or deny? [18:45:15] * bawolff doubts things that people have been talking about for more than 5 years... [18:45:28] hi folks. I'm working on a special extension that outputs using addWikiText a few lines that include some [ ] links. For some reason they are not being parsed. Using inline html just renders as text so I'm wondering if there's some setting I need to do. [18:45:52] (welcome, weex) [18:45:56] hi sumanah [18:46:11] Weex: can you put source code in pastebin? [18:46:20] sure [18:46:27] What you are describing should work [18:47:10] the link might be confusing something since it's like [bitcoin:1dajdsk 1dajdsk] [18:47:42] Weex: did you add bitcoin to $wgUrlProtocols [18:47:57] well no i did not! [18:48:18] trying that now [18:48:19] sumanah, there will be a unified user page too? [18:48:35] Micru: No, I do not think Echo provides for that. [18:48:36] Let me know if that fixes it [18:48:58] !wgUrlProtocols | weex [18:48:59] If you are interested in a unified user page .... there might be some interesting hack but I can't see it in my head right away [18:49:16] Oh I typed that wrong [18:49:27] sumanah: I am not sure if interwiki transclusion is working right, I have to check [18:49:29] 03(mod) Excess white space between the bottom of the captcha image and refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47699 (10spage) [18:49:31] !wg UrlProtocols [18:49:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUrlProtocols [18:50:54] Lol, if we tell users to start using the new type of user page, then we will really get the wikipedia is facebook crowd [18:50:56] bawolff: that worked, thanks! [18:51:22] bawolff: FYI is was the user made build for v1.20.2 of WYSIWYG editor (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WYSIWYG) that cause the problem. Using it to edit the side bar cause all sorts of bad stuff to get added to the page, even if you switch to the plain editor after. [18:51:49] Micru: interwiki transclusion support currently sucks [18:51:53] bawolff: New type of user page? [18:52:22] Unbeliever: yeah, those types of extensions have some issues [18:52:39] bawolff, I thought so, thanks for confirming my fears [18:53:06] GorillaWarfare: since facebook always is trying to change my profile page [18:53:15] 03(mod) Project & File namespaces renaming for udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47820 +comment (10paul.kaganer) [18:53:39] Micru: there was a gsoc project ti fix it, but it never got merged [18:54:21] bawolff: why didn't it get merged? not good enough? [18:54:23] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47749 +comment (10paul.kaganer) [18:54:23] Micru: current support just takes the html from the other wiki and plops it into the page [18:54:43] Micru: In the past we've had a lot of problems because we did not structure summer projects well enough. [18:54:54] Micru: we did not allot enough time during the summer for code review, bugfixing, merge, etc. [18:55:38] Micru: there was some issues discovered after the fact, student gone by this point, no one else really had sufficient time [18:55:49] sumanah: maybe a possible GsoC in the future could be "revive old Gsoc's" [18:56:03] Micru: have you seen our track record with gsoc? [18:56:09] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects [18:56:47] bawolff: it doesnt need to be all at once :) [18:57:05] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16864 +comment (10federicoleva) [18:57:28] That's a major issue with prev gsoc - they tried to do it all at once [18:57:41] I want GSoC proposals to be things students are genuinely interested in and things that are doable in the space of a summer. If there's an old half-written GSoC project and a student who wants to be a code archaeologist, I'm interested. [18:57:53] Also long lived branches in svn are not fun... [18:58:21] Also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MaxSem/GSoC_analysis [18:58:54] bawolff: yeah I saw it today. awesome analysis with graphs and all :) [18:59:26] ok, any proposals that come in within the next ~30 sec are literally last-minute [18:59:59] Lol [19:00:34] sumanah: over I guess now [19:00:57] I have onr in my inbox from 3:58 - that's pretty last minute [19:01:00] And we're done with the GSoC applicants [19:01:25] 03(mod) API: Echo should use a standard notcontinue parameter instead of notoffset + nottimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48054 (10bsitu) [19:01:47] yeah all over for proposal :) [19:02:23] bawolff: in total - including the applicants who have terrible proposals and no chance of success - how many applicants? [19:02:45] Good question. Lets count [19:03:54] 56 [19:04:26] That excludes things qgill has marked as utterly hopeless [19:04:42] bawolff: ok. Last year we got 63: 41 substantive proposals and 22 that were spam, copy-and-paste from our ideas list, incredibly vague, etc. [19:05:00] bawolff: oh, wait, how many in TOTAL total? including the hopeless? [19:05:08] But not recent utterly hopeless that qgill hasnt marked as ignore yet [19:05:13] right [19:05:45] Im not sure how to include ignored proposals in my list [19:05:55] 2011: 24 consideration-worthy applications. 2012: 41 worth considering. This year: probably at least 50. OK, thanks bawolff [19:06:23] I normally batch upload hundreds of images into MW by ftp or scp and run importImages.php. Thereafter I place the imaegs in a ... However, due to the fairly large image sizes, around 3000x4000 pixels, I can only generate about 10 thumbs at the time via the web-MW page save, or else a server error usually occur. I've tried many ways to raise the limit, but perhaps the better way for my purpose, which is just a non-public intranet wiki, would be to pre-generate the default sized thumbs as normally used in ... via the command line. Is there any exi [19:07:28] Sumanah: 69 including ignored and withdrawn proposals [19:07:38] I could then simply hook that onto my batch upload and image import shell script procedure. [19:07:46] * bawolff figured out the interface [19:08:00] Tuxedo_: do scaling on view instead? [19:08:09] bawolff: ok - thanks! I appreciate it [19:08:50] Tuxedo_: one of your lines ended with "Is there any exi" [19:09:21] Tuxedo_: in Wikimedia land, what we do is generate the image when someone requests the image file Instead of at page save time [19:09:22] Tuxedo_: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGenerateThumbnailOnParse and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thumb.php [19:09:52] Oh. Sorry. [19:10:08] I meant: Is there any existing procedure or script that does this? [19:10:14] Tuxedo_: you could call thumb.php via wget or curl from the commandline [19:11:04] liangent and bawolff: Many thanks for the tips. I should find it from here! [19:11:10] Good luck Tuxedo_ [19:11:28] I don't think there is an existing maintenance script (other than directly calling the func from eval.php) [19:11:37] Thanks to you too sumanah! [19:12:31] sumanah: 42 entries till now in table at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013#Students [19:13:17] Thank you harshkothari [19:14:32] locations need to be suffixed with country name ... like this: Peterborough, Ontario [19:15:02] and NYC, NY (Originally Israel) [19:15:28] sumanah: :) [19:29:20] 03(NEW) FancyCaptcha should generate fixed-size images for easier styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48055 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); () [19:32:13] qgil_away: In 2011 we got ~24 applications worth considering. Last year, 41. This year, it sounds like ~50 ? [19:34:19] 03(mod) Throttle new captcha refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47740 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:34:22] 03(mod) Other actions beside login should be throttled based on failed captcha attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40496 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:36:21] 03(mod) FancyCaptcha should generate fixed-size images for easier styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48055 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:36:31] 03(mod) difficult to parse or restyle CAPTCHA output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46759 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:36:33] 03(mod) FancyCaptcha should generate fixed-size images for easier styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48055 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:37:43] sumanah: what's the total number of application this year (incl. those not worth considering :)) [19:38:28] wizardist: ~69 I believe although I don't know how many of those might have been withdrawn and thus should not count. [19:38:47] 03(mod) CAPTCHA module is activated by tag if a with an external link already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44505 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:39:02] and what is the quota of projects for Wikimedia? [19:39:07] wizardist: We won't know that for several days, sorry [19:39:21] wizardist: You can look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects to see how many slots we have been allotted in previous years. [19:39:45] I'm just curious, had to mark a lot of GSoC e-mails as read recently, although some of them were worth reading! :) [19:40:14] wizardist: Understood. You might want to skim https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations [19:40:37] fantastic, thanks. [19:41:02] Actually wizardist I should be clear: I remember that in a previous year we gave back 1 slot because we did not have enough good students to fill all the slots we were allotted [19:41:45] I cannot remember whether we had to do this twice or only 1ce, and I can't remember whether it was 2011, 2012, or both [19:42:10] 03(mod) Option to sort search results by size and date in advanced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21139 +comment (10Nilesh Chakraborty) [19:46:09] I should have applied the last year... [19:46:14] 03(mod) Asirra link hardcoded as http, caused mixed content warnings when used over https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40631 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:49:19] liangent: I want to help encourage qualified students to apply -- what could we have done better to help encourage you to apply last year? [19:54:02] 03(mod) Asirra link hardcoded as http, caused mixed content warnings when used over https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40631 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:54:20] liangent: it's also ok to say "I'm not sure" :) [19:54:31] sumanah: maybe telling them that we often have too few students to choose instead of too many students? Last year, 41; accepted, 9 <- this is the number I hear most of the time [19:55:20] liangent: OK, I can understand that [19:55:28] sumanah, so a bugfix is a necessary condition for getting accepted ? [19:55:30] qgil: ^ [19:55:35] * sumanah is no longer qgil  [19:55:43] :) [19:55:55] qgil: Thank you for letting me be you for a while! You are a cool guy. [19:56:55] thank you sumanah ! [19:57:18] diadara, not a necessary condition since GSoC doesn't require it but of course a bugfix tells you and tells us a lot about each other [19:57:47] diadara, if you feel your proposal is in good shape, doing a contribution would be a next step to increase your chances [19:58:14] diadara, I'm saying all this without recalling right now your proposal. Same answer to anybody else with the same question [19:59:11] qgil: I have to develop my project from scratch so is this ok to start work for that [19:59:45] harshkothari, the mentors are the best people to ask [20:00:20] harshkothari, but sounds like an approach that can't go wrong since you are showing genuine interest and skills applied to the project [20:00:37] sumanah: and having gerrit set up can be another way to encourage students :) with it patches from potential participants get accepted easier and this encourages students / at least me [20:01:33] sumanah, where did you get those useful numbers form past GSoC editions? They would be useful at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects [20:01:50] qgil: okies thanks :) I am thinking to work on my project rather then fixing bugs of another project [20:01:57] sumanah, I'm going to try to crunch numbers for 2013 right now [20:02:58] qgil: "GSoC applications closed" from 6 April 2012 on wikitech-l [20:03:10] ok [20:03:16] 03(mod) Asirra link hardcoded as http, caused mixed content warnings when used over https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40631 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [20:03:20] qgil: I can add those #s now if you want [20:03:32] sumanah, I think they are very useful. Thanks [20:03:32] * sumanah avoids edit conflict [20:04:03] I'm now diving into melange, no worries [20:08:40] qgil: added, thanks [20:09:44] KDE got 154 applications total http://identi.ca/notice/100834933 congrats Lydia_WMDE! [20:09:57] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:10:37] 154 sumanah omg [20:10:41] sumanah: thx :) [20:10:47] sumanah, thanks! [20:11:34] sumanah: i just sent out the email with instructions and a link to our monster spreadsheet -.- [20:11:40] it'll be painful [20:11:58] Lydia_WMDE: You have my sympathies. [20:16:46] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 +comment (10mflaschen) [20:17:42] 03(mod) Notification email digests: Copy tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47846 +comment (10lwelling) [20:18:04] 03(mod) ResourceLoader could use more wfDebug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44018 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:18:08] 03(mod) ResourceLoader could use more wfDebug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44018 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:25:40] So we got about a third of the proposals that kde did. That's pretty impressive given that kde is a much bigger project than we are [20:26:16] bigger - lines of code? number of contributors? [20:26:20] number of installations? [20:26:32] Bigger in terms of scope [20:26:52] They are a desktop environment, we are a website [20:27:13] A cool website, but a website nonetheless [20:27:20] 03(mod) Excess white space between the bottom of the captcha image and refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47699 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:27:50] I imagine kde would just have a wider variety of potential projects then we would [20:28:16] we .... we could do a lot of things ..... (feels sad) [20:28:25] I say that with very little knowladge of kde beyond what it is [20:29:11] I can come up with lots of ideas for cool things people could do that would interact with Wikimedia data or MediaWiki or what have you .... but we don't have as many mentors as KDE [20:29:37] At the end of the day kde is going to have low level close to the os projects, high level interface projects, and things in between [20:30:05] If we are getting that close to the OS we are probably doing something wrong [20:31:05] Certainly, there are lot of other things we could be doing [20:33:54] "we" (kde) simply have not only a desktop environment, but a framework, a lot of high level applications and libraries. you really can't compare that, even with a lot of subdomains like wikimedia [20:33:57] Sumanah: you should add your cool interact with Wikimedia data ideas to a page somewhere on mw.org [20:36:49] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10rkaldari) [20:40:25] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10matma.rex) [20:42:27] wow, I didn't know that cloning the core repo takes that long. [20:43:45] odder: it's about 150 MB right now, i think. [20:43:53] odder: is it downloading slower than it should? [20:44:38] MatmaRex: I have nothing to compare it too, so I have no idea [20:44:43] "remote: Finding sources: 59% (122347/206212)" [20:45:17] odder: ah. well, git has to do some work first to decide what to send you [20:45:18] 03(mod) Better error handling for worker.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48012 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [20:45:39] odder: i think chad once mentioned that the full repo with branches and stuff is around 500 mb or so [20:46:08] odder: but if it's taking more than a few minutes, that could mean something's borken server-side [20:46:31] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10rkaldari) [20:46:32] I can wait, no problem [20:53:52] 03(mod) Make MathJax menus translatable [upstream] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35038 +comment (10peter.krautzberger) [20:58:37] 03(mod) Echo: placement of notifications in HTML makes it hard for screen-reader users to access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47993 +comment (10rkaldari) [21:00:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: After saving a page, the VisualEditor tab points at the oldid content not the new one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47682 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [21:00:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [21:00:57] 03(mod) Wrong revision loaded for a follow up edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48021 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [21:00:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reopening page in VE immediately after saving page in VE loads old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47420 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [21:03:47] 03(NEW) line breaks no longer work with text properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48056 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [21:05:09] 03(mod) Echo: "link" notifications should not trigger on redirects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48045 (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:06:49] 03(mod) Add option for all visitors to toggle Math modes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48036 +comment (10peter.krautzberger) [21:12:57] 03(mod) Need to replace mysql_*() functions for in favor of mysqli or pdo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45288 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [21:18:36] bawolff/liangent/sumanah: I think I got it; $wgGenerateThumbnailOnParse should be false. I'd like to run a request such as https://user:pass@myserver.com/wiki/thumb.php?f=myImage.jpg&w=120 (against an array of images in a shell procedure) but the user:pass formatting doesn't work in that it redirects onto a URL without the query string. Maybe curl is or something else is better suited? [21:20:52] ... I guess this is no longer a MW question: I'd simpy like to make the image requests (via autenticated https) from a local to remote wiki but without saving a file on the local. Just to create the thumbs. Anyone knows of a good procedure? curl or other standard *nix procedure? [21:21:20] * sumanah doesn't know, sorry [21:22:07] Tuxedo_: You just want there to be a thumbnail for an image that's on a remote wiki? [21:22:32] Tuxedo_: imageinfo API requests will give you URLs for thumbnails [21:22:45] hmm, gerrit slow for other ppl as well ? [21:22:50] Yes, just to create them in the background, as an after upload proceure. [21:22:58] gerrit is usually slow [21:23:16] although yeah, it might be a little more slow right now [21:23:27] slower*, heh. [21:23:59] So far I'm pasing image names in to the ... tags via the browser but can only do max. 10 at the time which is getting relly tedius.... [21:24:08] marktraceur: Tuxedo_ ForeignAPIRepo? [21:24:13] While everything else is automated. [21:24:33] Like how instantcommons works.. [21:24:51] !wg ForeignFileRepos [21:24:51] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos [21:25:27] Tuxedo_: If you're looking for thumbnail URLs, you can have them with the imageinfo API requests, but it's not implemented for cross-wiki images, you'd need to build something for that maybe [21:28:21] MatmaRex: still downloading the core repo :-( [21:29:01] 45 minutes? that's kinda bad [21:29:06] Will look into imageinfo API. [21:29:19] odder: yeah, git seems to be super slow right now [21:29:20] qchris: you there? odder is reporting that mediawiki/core is taking ages to clone [21:29:31] that's also why gerrit probably is slow [21:30:33] MatmaRex: I am here, but I have no rights on our gerrit. [21:30:43] did I kill gerrit? apologies. [21:31:10] odder: I don't think you killed gerrit :-) [21:31:54] \o/ [21:31:58] However, I'm not sure why this should be complicated? Just generating a batch on thumbs into a non-hashed thumbs directory..... Maybe it could be a useful add-on or builtin option to importImages.php? No separate http requests. [21:34:15] qchris: well, you and chad are basically the only two people here who know how gerrit works :) [21:34:33] Otherwise when dealing with large files needing thumbs importImages.php is not much more effecient than the browser-based Upload file or Multiupload function. [21:34:55] 03(NEW) Request for new mailing list: qa-testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; () [21:35:08] odder, MatmaRex: I had a short look at ganglia. Looks normal. But network is going up around that time of the day. As I lack permission to view caches etc, we have to wait for ^demon. [21:35:19] 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa-testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 normal->15enhancement (10Sumana Harihareswara) [21:36:37] qchris: okay. thanks [21:38:58] 03(NEW) /etc/fstab contain non existent partition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48058 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; () [21:45:41] 03(mod) Project & File namespaces renaming for udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47820 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:47:26] 03(mod) Project & File namespaces renaming for udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47820 normal->15enhancement; +patch-in-gerrit (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:47:49] 03(mod) Add "sitesupport-url" to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45696 normal->15enhancement (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:51:24] 03(mod) Add a "live preview" link in the Central Notice interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25387 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:52:18] 03(mod) Zeroadmin rights deployed at Meta-Wiki without the associated MediaWiki messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47612 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:54:15] 03(mod) co-ment-like tool for inline comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46440 +comment (10qgil) [21:56:22] 03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3311 +comment (10qgil) [21:56:24] 03(NEW) Link not lower case - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48060 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:03:35] Having tested, wget works fine for my task described earler, as in: [22:04:15] 03(mod) Dolphin on Samsung Jet receives WAP content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30827 (10Max Semenik) [22:04:28] wget --secure-protocol=auto --no-check-certificate --http-user=xxx --http-password=xxx "https://some.thing/wiki/thumb.php?f=mypic.jpg&w=120" [22:05:34] I just had to quote the URL not to break apart at the query string. [22:06:00] 03(mod) [Dynamic Page Loading] Searching for special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44453 +comment (10Jon) [22:06:44] 03(mod) dewiki: exclamation marks on watchlist increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24053 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [22:06:46] 03(mod) Open username policy in tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47530 (10Steven Walling) [22:15:18] 03(mod) Commons app should provide a visual during first sync - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47668 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [22:15:49] 03(mod) Text Input for new file name text is not centered on 3.5" display iPhone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47083 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [22:24:53] 03(mod) [Dynamic Page Loading] Languages do not show under certain circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44081 +comment (10Jon) [22:25:48] 03(mod) Descriptions on DonateImage (uploads dashboard) page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45579 (10Jon) [22:28:20] 03(mod) Rename Module talk namespace for Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47933 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [22:28:52] 03(mod) Open translatewiki tickets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44959 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:32:37] 03(mod) Open translatewiki tickets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44959 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:32:56] 03(mod) Open translatewiki tickets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44959 +comment (10Jon) [23:02:00] 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 +comment (10Erik Bernhardson) [23:05:08] 03(mod) Translation of Magic word "REDIRECT" in Assamese wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47863 normal->15enhancement; +i18n (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [23:09:43] 03(mod) Bad article layout on it.wikivoyage (due to hidden categories?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48019 +comment (10andyrom75) [23:11:54] 03(mod) "We found a more accurate location for you" notice is buggy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47898 (10Jon) [23:12:37] 03(mod) "We found a more accurate location for you" notice is buggy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47898 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:13:45] 03(mod) Add a "live preview" link in the Central Notice interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25387 -patch-need-review ; +comment (10Adam Wight) [23:14:39] 03(mod) gallery should not use ul/li - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36755 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:17:14] 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 +comment (10rkaldari) [23:34:31] marktraceur, I think you should add youself as possible mentor to the elegible proposals on the Gsoc website (the switch on the left) [23:36:03] 03(NEW) Gerrit: HTTP 500 "Guice provision errors: Cannot open ReviewDb" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48061 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [23:38:38] Micru: Already done [23:38:53] Also indicated they're both DESIRABLE, didn't think that was much of a question [23:39:18] marktraceur: thanks, though from my POV it is ESSENTIAL :) [23:40:00] Micru: From the UW perspective it isn't; you can argue with me in private comments if you'd like [23:40:47] marktraceur: yes, I know, the thing is that for wikisourcerors, every time that you want they upload a book, the information has to be entered 3-4 times, the same information [23:41:05] plus it is not saved in a template, so it has to be modified afterwards [23:41:21] 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 +comment (10ebernhardson) [23:41:25] and there are no import features, so that means even more work... [23:42:30] true, that it won't solve any "critical bug", because there is nothing broken, but the efficiency gained will be enormous [23:43:47] Micru: A) File the bug B) Post in the comments [23:44:25] Has gerrit been lagging lately? [23:44:27] I filed the bug already, and I will post too :) [23:44:47] techkid6: yes [23:44:47] argh [23:44:47] techman224: yes [23:44:50] Micru: Where is it so I can make it a little higher priority? [23:45:23] Also, ssh isn't working [23:45:25] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47561 [23:49:46] {{done}} [23:49:48] 03(mod) Book upload customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [23:53:06] marktraceur: thanks for the comment! [23:53:30] Yup [23:54:18] 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044 +comment (10rkaldari)