[00:02:00] 03(mod) Parsoid: HTML comment with immediately following table has newline split removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48179 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:05:38] 03(mod) /etc/fstab contain non existent partition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48058 +comment (10rlane32) [00:07:25] 03(mod) Maintenance script to permanently delete files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47990 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:10:24] 03(mod) Echo breaks the hasmsg API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47962 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:12:49] 03(NEW) Flash of unstyled content (FOUC) in diff view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48190 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [00:18:26] 03(NEW) Placeholders do not work in Opera Mini Browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48191 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:19:49] 03(mod) Placeholders do not work in Opera Mini Browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48191 +comment (10Michelle Grover) [00:19:50] Whoa, a maplebed. [00:19:54] :) [00:20:02] * maplebed slinks in... [00:20:05] I need help upgrading a wiki. [00:20:19] * marktraceur resists urge to !upgrade [00:20:24] !upgrade | marktraceur [00:20:24] marktraceur: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [00:20:26] maplebed: Something going wrong? [00:20:36] !resist | Reedy [00:21:02] I'm going from 1.15 to 1.20; figured it'd be easier to just start from scratch. I want to know the current advice on export/import across such widely disparate versions. [00:21:21] ori-l: Something borg-related seems apropos [00:21:28] For 1.15 to 1.20 I wouldn't bother starting from scratch [00:21:43] backup files, backup db, replace files, run maintenance/update.php, wait [00:21:43] really? I thought I remembered folks saying anything prior to 1.16 was hopeless. [00:22:19] I don't remember 1.15 being that bad [00:22:23] 1.5 definitely! [00:23:53] well, I've got a new server, so can I do mysql dump/restore then run the upgrade something to get it all 1.20-ified? [00:24:21] Yup [00:24:25] Remember any uploaded files too [00:24:34] 03(mod) if a revert is performed after a page is moved, the mover gets a revert notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48111 (10bsitu) [00:24:36] sweet. I'll give it a shot. [00:25:25] aww, it's nice to be back, even just for a bit. :) [00:25:30] see you some friday. [00:27:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Typing at the end of linked causes DM and CE to get out of sync - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48171 +comment (10James Forrester) [00:51:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Non-contiguous rendering of references in LTR text in RTL mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48185 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [01:04:47] 03(mod) "edit=autoconfirmed" not working for confirmed users on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48086 +comment (10pinkampersand.wikimedia) [01:16:31] is project name localized anywhere? [01:16:39] {{SITENAME}} [01:34:59] yurik: What do you mean by "localized"? [01:37:55] RoanKattouw, hoping to get SITENAME=Wikipedia to be localized somehow :) [01:38:10] because in other languages, the proj name would be slightly different [01:38:57] {{SITENAME}} = $wgSitename should be set appropriately on every wiki [01:38:59] Including translation [01:39:34] 03(mod) Rename wikis with multiple subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31335 summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:39:38] 03(mod) Wikis waiting to be renamed (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19986 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:41:31] RoanKattouw, yes, i understand that, but I guess i was hoping for the project name to have the same ability to be localized as all other values. Come to think of it, it might not be possible at the moment [01:41:57] i was thinking of using &uselang=fr on english wiki [01:42:00] If you mean you want to get the French word for "Wikipedia" while you're on the English Wikipedia, then no, that's not possible right now [01:42:03] 03(mod) CentralAuth wikiset manager complains about pa_uswikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46746 +comment (10sam) [01:42:05] Hah, jinx [01:42:22] hehe [01:42:36] sux, thx though! [01:44:46] Will Wikidata not let you request something in a specific language? [01:46:44] what do you mean? [01:52:10] Reedy, i have a message "...{{SITENAME}}..." that needs to be localized into a language XX. The message may contain various funky stuff like gender or conjugation, etc. The reality it seems is that I can only reliably do this while on the site of language XX, not on another site [01:52:36] in other words -- http://api.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Zero:250-99 [01:52:45] the messages at the bottom [01:52:55] they are always going to be "Wikipedia" [01:53:34] 03(mod) Parsoid: Some but not all content of a template inside a table is repeated at the end of a template before the end of the table when a template is seriliazed with WTS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48180 summary; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:53:56] 03(mod) Parsoid: Some but not all content of a template inside a table is repeated at the end of a template before the end of the table when a template is serialized with WTS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48180 summary (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:57:13] 03(NEW) right-zero-edit should be defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48192 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: ZeroRatedMobileAccess; () [01:57:18] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [02:00:34] 03(mod) right-zero-edit should be defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48192 +comment (10sam) [02:00:48] 03(mod) right-zero-edit should be defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48192 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [02:00:50] 03(mod) Zeroadmin rights deployed at Meta-Wiki without the associated MediaWiki messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47612 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [02:02:26] 03(mod) Zeroadmin rights deployed at Meta-Wiki without the associated MediaWiki messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47612 +comment (10sam) [02:05:53] 03(mod) Improve placement of refresh button and text for FancyCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47713 (10spage) [02:31:35] 03(NEW) "Review and Save" does not work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 blocker; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [02:32:11] 03(mod) "Review and Save" does not work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:40:26] 03(NEW) Parsoid: Account for close/re-open of the same text style element in serializing to wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48194 critical; Parsoid: General; () [02:42:14] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Don't close/re-open annotation when pasting text into a comparable context - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48195 critical; VisualEditor: General; () [02:43:36] 03(mod) "Review and Save" does not work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:44:35] 03(mod) "Review and Save" does not work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 +comment (10Krinkle) [02:45:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.dm.Converter throws exception when encountering alien from [[en:Enterprise_content_management]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 summary (10Krinkle) [02:46:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.dm.Converter throws exception when encountering alien from [[en:Enterprise_content_management]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 +comment (10nicolas.raoul) [02:54:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Triple-click to select of block level element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38011 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [02:54:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Triple-click to select block level element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38011 summary (10Krinkle) [02:55:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.dm.Converter throws exception when encountering alien from [[en:Enterprise_content_management]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48193 +comment (10James Forrester) [02:59:48] 03(mod) CentralAuth wikiset manager complains about pa_uswikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46746 +comment (10mfwarburg) [03:02:41] 03(mod) need exception or how to avoid wikidata changes in filter's abuse log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 +comment (10mahitgar) [03:04:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector shouldn't correct newly-created [[foo|Foo]] to [[Foo]] (case insensitivity for display but not link) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48060 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [03:26:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trailing whitespace at end of paragraph or table cell dropped on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47712 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:28:55] 03(NEW) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [03:31:44] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10MZMcBride) [03:38:05] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10matthewrbowker.wiki) [03:45:53] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [03:47:04] 03(mod) internal_api_error when running bot on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47808 +comment (10b) [03:47:52] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [03:49:10] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [03:49:25] Whoops [03:50:01] :P [03:50:16] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Interwiki_map#WMF_RT <-- March 15, 2013 [03:53:01] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10Krinkle) [03:53:17] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 (10Krinkle) [03:55:38] 03(mod) CodeEditor extension should support CSS/JS pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39653 +comment (10b) [03:58:11] Reedy, i'm still a bit confused about your bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48192 [03:58:44] i'm not very familiar with the i18n for groups, what should be changed? [04:13:21] 03(mod) Jenkins should run tests in disposable sandboxes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45499 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [04:40:32] 03(NEW) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; () [04:45:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trailing whitespace at end of paragraph or table cell dropped on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47712 +comment (10James Forrester) [04:46:01] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10b) [04:46:19] 03(mod) [[RT:The Life and Music of Richard Thompson]] on enwiki is inaccessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48196 +comment (10b) [04:47:30] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 (10spage) [04:50:03] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 +comment (10swalling) [04:53:33] 03(mod) SpecialPreferences:

should not be inside - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33438 (10spage) [05:00:10] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 (10ganeshaditya1) [05:26:04] 03(mod) wgMobileDeviceName is not populated on en.m.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47586 (10Jon) [05:35:04] 03(mod) Respect bots/nobots-template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47985 (10gameonsweden) [06:18:08] 03(NEW) Add declarative way to restrict when tour is launched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48198 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [06:32:31] 03(mod) [New UserLogin] Convert Wikimedia-specific messages to be blank in core by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47801 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:38:27] 03(mod) UW should use one progress bar only when uploading multiple files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48157 +comment (10nischayn22) [06:49:29] 03(mod) [DESIGN] OpenID-only enabled account owners cannot set their password when the account lacks an e-mail address - which cannot be set up because they don't have a password (race condition) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34357 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:50:38] 03(mod) [BUG] OpenID Consumer wiki stalls with blank page for certain OpenID Provider verification error cases (consumer fails to show the provider response message) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44821 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:51:11] 03(mod) [DESIGN] OpenID-only enabled account owners cannot set their password when the account lacks an e-mail address - which cannot be set up because they don't have a password (race condition) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34357 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:52:57] 03(mod) [CODE QUALITY] Cleanup ancient un-needed comments and remove superfluous wfDebug statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46053 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:54:57] 03(mod) Login page doesn't respect $wgSecureLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44353 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:56:12] 03(mod) OpenID updater routine fails now and then dropping the old index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31661 (10T. Gries) [06:57:23] 03(mod) Need a way to customize default OpenID providers list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21751 +comment (10T. Gries) [06:58:38] 03(mod) Need a way to customize default OpenID providers list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21751 (10T. Gries) [06:58:38] 03(mod) Suggestion: change $wgOpenIDConsumerForce so that it fully specifies an OpenID provider (Url, logo, ...) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44819 (10T. Gries) [06:59:17] 03(mod) Suggestion: change $wgOpenIDConsumerForce so that it fully specifies an OpenID provider (Url, logo, ...) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44819 (10T. Gries) [07:02:16] 03(mod) Allow different user grouping for OpenID users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23735 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:02:58] 03(mod) [BUG] E:OpenID when used as Provider does not populate sreg (or ax) fields nickname, email... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46258 summary (10T. Gries) [07:05:30] 03(mod) Add extension hooks for OpenID link/unlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44165 +comment (10mail) [07:05:58] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Add extension hooks for OpenID link/unlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44165 summary (10T. Gries) [07:07:41] 03(mod) [PostgreSQL] update.php: Call to undefined method PostgresField::isMultipleKey() in OpenID.hooks.php on line 361 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34846 summary (10T. Gries) [07:07:57] 03(mod) [PostgreSQL] Query failed: ERROR: column "uoi_user_registration" does not exist ...ID::getUserOpenIDInformation */ uoi_openid, uoi_user_r... in includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php line 254 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34844 summary (10T. Gries) [07:08:38] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] change $wgOpenIDConsumerForce so that it fully specifies an OpenID provider (Url, logo, ...) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44819 summary (10T. Gries) [07:08:56] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Need a way to customize default OpenID providers list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21751 summary (10T. Gries) [07:09:25] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Allow account creation through OpenID when the wiki disallows for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46617 summary (10T. Gries) [07:09:44] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Allow account creation through OpenID when the wiki disallows for anons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46617 +comment (10mail) [07:10:35] 03(mod) [BUG] Special:OpenIDConvert can be used even when forcing an openid provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47151 summary (10T. Gries) [07:10:46] 03(mod) [BUG] Special:OpenIDConvert can be used even when forcing an openid provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47151 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:12:32] 03(mod) E:OpenID and separate mediawiki installations with shared user database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39462 +comment (10mail) [07:13:07] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] E:OpenID and separate mediawiki installations with shared user database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39462 summary (10T. Gries) [07:13:40] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Login page doesn't respect $wgSecureLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44353 summary (10T. Gries) [07:15:14] 03(mod) OpenID updater routine fails now and then dropping the old index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31661 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:15:53] 03(mod) [CLARIFICATION REQUEST] Login by OpenID not working for non-ASCII identities, or for OpenID server pages without character set information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21296 summary (10T. Gries) [07:16:38] 03(mod) [TRACKING BUG] Support OpenID extension on all wikimedia projects [AS PROVIDER, CONSUMER, OR BOTH ?] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9604 summary (10T. Gries) [07:19:33] 03(mod) Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 +comment (10T. Gries) [07:19:52] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 summary (10T. Gries) [07:20:27] 03(mod) Better error handling for worker.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48012 +comment (10ariel) [07:23:45] 03(mod) [GUI] Add Retina Icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44849 +comment (10mail) [07:25:23] 03(mod) [GUI] Add Retina Icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44849 +comment (10mail) [07:30:22] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:38:21] 03(mod) internal_api_error when running bot on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47808 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:40:59] 03(mod) [TUX] RTL proofread action icons are needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47257 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:41:11] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10Oleg) [07:41:40] 03(NEW) [TwnMainPage] Language name is not localised - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48199 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [07:43:12] 03(NEW) Provide information about FlaggedRevs via API for action=query & list=watchlist / list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48200 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; () [07:44:02] 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Special:MainPage looks horrible and unusable without javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48155 summary (10Niklas Laxström) [07:51:14] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10grazeroleg) [07:54:09] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10grazeroleg) [08:08:27] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10grazeroleg) [08:20:50] 03(mod) [TUX] RTL proofread action icons are needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47257 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [08:28:11] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 +comment (10Fomafix) [08:51:39] 03(mod) [New form] Minor whitespace issues in IE7, for login and account create account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48189 (10Andre Klapper) [08:51:41] 03(mod) [New form] Login and signup form styles borked in IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48188 (10Andre Klapper) [09:05:44] 03(mod) The cog icon doesn't close the Display settings panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47965 +comment (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [09:05:47] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Cog icon cannot be used to close the language settings panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47971 +comment (10runabh) [09:06:29] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 +comment (10aklapper) [09:11:38] 03(mod) Mobile page is "too wide" and can't scroll horizontally in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46726 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:11:56] 03(mod) Placeholders do not work in Opera Mini Browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48191 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:12:51] 03(mod) Respect bots/nobots-template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47985 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [09:18:57] 03(mod) Concurrent uploading is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48090 (10Andre Klapper) [09:20:21] 03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15294 +comment (10aklapper) [09:21:48] Hi, what's happening with mediawiki site :( [09:21:56] 03(mod) PageTriage: Sort options hidden by overlapping interface elements. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48161 (10Andre Klapper) [09:22:25] I'm checking it for the second day. [09:23:41] 03(mod) Requested Scribunto/Lua built-in methods/functions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48176 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:24:13] 03(mod) Scribunto/Lua should have a built-in method for retrieving categories used on a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48175 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:24:15] 03(mod) Scribunto/Lua should have a built-in method for retrieving templates transcluded on a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48174 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:24:17] 03(mod) Lua table serialization (dumping contents of a table) is really painful/annoying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48173 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:27:14] 03(mod) JobQueue does not scale for TTMServer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48164 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [09:27:18] natbrown: mediawiki.org is working, if that is what you mean? [09:27:21] 03(NEW) API action=parse seems broken on wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48201 major; Wikimedia: Wikidata; () [09:28:02] p858snake:It doesn't for me :( [09:28:10] 03(mod) Articles I edit do not add to my watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41573 +comment (10aklapper) [09:28:22] are you accessing the secure site "https://"? [09:29:11] I think so, that's how it comes up in Google. [09:29:48] yes, there is currently a issue with that [09:35:06] 03(mod) API action=parse seems broken on wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48201 +comment (10Aude) [09:38:26] 03(NEW) Default Bugzilla "Priority" value on product level instead of global - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48202 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [09:38:42] 03(mod) Default Bugzilla "Priority" value on product level instead of global - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48202 +upstream (10Andre Klapper) [09:39:39] 03(mod) IPv6 range blocks are not listed when using bkip parameter in API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48129 (10Andre Klapper) [09:39:49] 03(mod) Backport "Pending changes" messages from WP? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48094 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [09:42:50] 03(mod) if you click on the text area and as a result no longer this area susceptible to click / selection. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44347 +comment (10محمّد أمين بوبكّر) [09:45:20] 03(NEW) Purging does not work on deployment-prep / beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48203 major; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); () [09:45:46] 03(mod) Translation page does not contain the latest translations/last translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46716 summary (10Nemo) [09:48:58] Krinkle|detached: ping [09:49:11] 03(mod) Translation page does not contain the latest translations/last translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46716 +comment (10Nemo) [09:49:22] lbenedix: hes not here currently (hence the |detached) [09:50:55] but maybe he comes back and sees my "ping" [09:52:18] 03(mod) need exception or how to avoid wikidata changes in filter's abuse log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 +comment (10aklapper) [09:52:53] 03(mod) Translation page does not contain the latest translations/last translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46716 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:54:07] 03(mod) Provide information about FlaggedRevs via API for action=query & list=watchlist / list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48200 (10Andre Klapper) [09:54:38] p858snake:Thank you :) I've accessed it! :) Another question, I want to add http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler It looks like a lot of work. If anyone has any advice I will be very happy! [09:54:40] 03(mod) Echo: In mw-prefsection-echo, nodismiss options should be a checked checkbox with disabled="true" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48031 (10Andre Klapper) [09:54:44] 03(mod) Missing check box in Echo preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47743 (10Andre Klapper) [10:04:11] 03(mod) Allow upload-by-URL from upload.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42473 +comment (10at.light) [10:06:14] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 +comment (10mail) [10:16:52] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Cog icon cannot be used to close the language settings panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47971 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:30:41] 03(NEW) Language list misplaced when accessed from the Input Method menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48204 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [10:34:40] 03(mod) right-zero-edit should be defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48192 +comment (10Marco Aurelio) [10:37:21] 03(mod) Several JavaScript extensions (Custom tab, CategoryTreeSection) on de.wikisource broke recently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48182 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:43:53] 03(NEW) Server-side upload of large number of files to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48205 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [10:45:16] 03(NEW) Bullets overlap colons in Bugzilla "See also:" section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48206 trivial; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [10:57:10] 03(NEW) Remove TUX PHP code from Special:Translate in favor of JS code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48207 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [11:02:04] 03(mod) if you click on the text area and as a result no longer this area susceptible to click / selection. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44347 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:16:38] 03(mod) Bullets overlap colons in Bugzilla "See also:" section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48206 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:16:40] 03(mod) Ugly dot shown when "See Also:" Bugzilla field is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42731 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:27:00] 03(mod) Thumbnails of PDFs with non-standard page sizes are rendered incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33722 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:27:01] 03(mod) PdfHandler: Incorrect aspect ratio of the preview images. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22194 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:27:16] 03(mod) Run accept_language.feature on Chrome and IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47548 +comment (10zfilipin) [11:46:40] 03(NEW) esams cluster unreachable using SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48208 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; () [11:47:34] 03(mod) [Frontend] Time as a datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48145 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:47:45] 03(mod) [Frontend] Time as a datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48145 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:47:52] 03(mod) [Frontend] Time as a datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48145 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:51:55] 03(NEW) Add a "converttitles" parameter to api.php?action=parse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48209 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [11:53:36] 03(mod) CAPTCHA doesn't work for blind people - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4845 +comment (10aklapper) [12:03:32] 03(mod) Dumps should be incremental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28956 +comment (10ariel) [12:06:41] hi [12:06:50] how do i make a wiki? [12:07:22] hello? [12:08:59] who can help? [12:24:35] 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Language name is not localised - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48199 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:25:33] 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Language name is not localised - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48199 (10Niklas Laxström) [12:26:26] 03(mod) Run accept_language.feature on Chrome and IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47548 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:47:27] 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Special:MainPage looks horrible and unusable without javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48155 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:47:45] 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Special:MainPage looks horrible and unusable without javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48155 (10Niklas Laxström) [12:53:41] 03(mod) Selecting many/multiple (>7?) files at once: Some are missing in the batch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39902 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:56:50] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Change "In other languages" to "Languages" if there are no interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47972 (10Niklas Laxström) [12:57:00] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Rectangle visible in MonoBook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47967 (10Niklas Laxström) [13:05:40] as preload only works on an empty page (if I am doing it right), so what is the means to load a specific template for a new section? [13:06:19] 03(mod) Make translation of "System font" possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47819 (10Niklas Laxström) [13:16:28] 03(mod) JavaScript error in ULS in getScript: TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46841 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [13:17:08] got it [13:24:23] 03(NEW) nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); () [13:25:36] 03(mod) replicate HTTPS architecture - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36648 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:25:36] 03(mod) nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:29:01] 03(mod) nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 +comment (10hashar) [13:30:03] 03(NEW) Duplicate ULS dialogs in page source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48211 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [13:37:49] 03(mod) Babel autocreate edit summary in user language instead of content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44623 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:38:24] 03(mod) [selenium] use cucumber for tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48142 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:40:56] 03(mod) Contributions page links "newer" though the list has under 50 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47950 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:41:28] 03(mod) [upstream] nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 +upstream; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:42:41] 03(mod) Contributions page links "newer" though the list has under 50 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47950 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:45:31] 03(mod) Babel autocreate edit summary in user language instead of content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44623 +comment (10aklapper) [13:46:36] 03(mod) Special:ProtectedPages results in whitepage when a bad title is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46493 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:47:39] 03(mod) Special:ProtectedPages results in whitepage when a bad title is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46493 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:48:13] 03(mod) Contributions page links "newer" though the list has under 50 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47950 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:51:32] 03(mod) Special:Statistics still links to Special:Activeusers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46719 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [13:53:36] Using MediaWiki API how can i list all categorymembers of a category with title starting with 'a'? [13:59:46] who is Robert Leverington in gerrit? [14:01:55] 03(mod) [upstream] nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:11:52] 03(mod) Increase coverage of ResourceLoader isCompatible() in startup.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35906 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:11:54] 03(mod) wikibits: FF2Fixes.css should not be loaded in Firefox 20 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47202 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:12:58] 03(mod) wikibits: FF2Fixes.css should not be loaded in Firefox 20 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47202 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:13:20] 03(mod) [upstream] [worked around] nginx fails: could not build the types_hash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48210 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [14:16:59] 03(mod) Echo: In mw-prefsection-echo, nodismiss options should be a checked checkbox with disabled="true" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48031 +comment (10Luke Welling) [14:17:01] 03(mod) Missing check box in Echo preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47743 +comment (10Luke Welling) [14:17:29] can someone explain to me how ... api.php?action=query&list=allusers&auactiveusers&auwitheditsonly&aulimit=500&auprop=editcount ... that the recentedit count can be above the total [14:22:13] 03(mod) Babel autocreate edit summary in user language instead of content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44623 +testme; +comment (10Nemo) [14:25:21] 03(mod) Implement JavaScript mw.hooks framework - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23580 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [14:27:46] 03(mod) fully support Wikilove on beta (2 issues) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47893 +comment (10hashar) [14:33:14] 03(mod) fully support Wikilove on beta (2 issues) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47893 +comment (10hashar) [14:34:14] 03(mod) [Regression] errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [14:44:20] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 (10ganeshaditya1) [14:44:50] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 (10ganeshaditya1) [14:46:47] 03(mod) Special:ProtectedPages results in whitepage when a bad title is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46493 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:47:38] 03(mod) Special:ProtectedPages results in whitepage when a bad title is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46493 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [14:50:24] 03(mod) LQT shouldn't accept duplicated posts on the same page/thread - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29786 +comment (10b) [14:53:30] @seen kaldari [14:53:30] MatmaRex: Last time I saw kaldari they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: kaldari N/A at 5/7/2013 8:13:27 AM (06:40:02.8079400 ago) [14:54:25] http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/07/okcon-2013-call-for-proposals-out-now/ MatmaRex check it out - you might have an idea for something to submit [14:56:10] sumanah: what should I do if my potential mentor disappears? [14:56:50] liangent: You should alert Quim immediately, and also alert your secondary mentor [14:56:59] sumanah: thanks - but i'm afraid i'm not really the kind of a guy who has lots of ideas ;) and my free time this month is very limited :( [14:57:06] MatmaRex: ok. [14:57:22] MatmaRex: I do think you actually have a lot of ideas, and I don't want you to "sell yourself short" if you know that saying [14:57:28] I'd be happy to help work with you on a talk proposal [14:57:33] But as you said your time this month is limited. [14:57:37] You should think about it for next year [14:57:41] 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa@lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 +comment (10cmcmahon) [14:57:44] sumanah: I can't see qgil these days on irc.. [14:57:53] @seen qgil [14:57:53] MatmaRex: Last time I saw qgil they were quitting the network with reason: Ping timeout: 276 seconds N/A at 5/6/2013 11:10:13 PM (15:47:39.9471850 ago) [14:57:56] liangent: Then please email him. He is very responsive on email [14:58:02] qgil@wikimedia [14:58:05] sumanah: yeah, i probably will. thanks [14:58:09] sumanah: ok [14:58:12] Glad to help [14:58:33] liangent: who is your potential mentor (who has disappeared)? [14:58:55] @seen Denny_WMDE [14:58:55] liangent: Last time I saw Denny_WMDE they were quitting the network with reason: Ping timeout: 268 seconds N/A at 4/26/2013 12:53:20 PM (11.02:05:34.7344450 ago) [14:58:57] sumanah: ^ [14:59:07] @notify kaldari [14:59:07] I will notify you, when I see kaldari around here [14:59:14] liangent: When was the last time you got an email from Denny? [14:59:14] other people in wikidata team said he was traveling [14:59:28] but not sure about the current state [15:00:13] sumanah: btw I've already talked to the wikidata program contact, and Lydia_WMDE signed "wish to mentor" for me [15:00:53] liangent: denny is still traveling - back tomorrow for a day at least [15:00:59] anything specific you need? [15:02:20] Lydia_WMDE: nothing "specific" but qgil was collecting info from mentors, and I guess Denny's absence may bring me some disadvantage? [15:02:44] :-) meeting now, back in an hour [15:02:57] liangent: no i am handling all that :) i had a call with quim on friday about all the wikidata-related proposals [15:03:02] and he knows denny is traveling [15:06:32] Lydia_WMDE: and aude expressed some interest in seeking another mentor from i18n team for me -- then I tried to contact aude several times recently but got no response [15:06:49] liangent: aha! [15:06:53] she's sitting next to me [15:06:54] Lydia_WMDE: I'm not sure whether I should do it myself, which may introduce some conflicts [15:06:55] let me poke her [15:09:06] hi liangent [15:09:09] 03(mod) CodeEditor and the experimental "live preview" preference are not compatible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47235 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:09:13] aude: hi [15:09:34] denny is back tomorrow [15:09:42] aude: nice [15:10:03] 03(mod) Server-side upload of large number of files to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48205 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [15:10:04] i don't think we have a problem of finding mentors, but will need to discuss with denny [15:10:29] i am not sure if it would be someone else on our team, or otherwise do you have someone from the i18n team in mind? [15:12:07] I don't have any specific person, but I often work in i18n code (in core) so there may be some people familiar with me / I'm familiar with [15:12:13] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:12:17] aude: ^ [15:12:22] liangent: ok [15:13:43] i think we need to see which other i18n projects we will have and who is doing what [15:14:05] but if you have a preference, then I think we can consider and ask them [15:15:37] liangent: of the i18n team, i think amir is most familiar with wikidata but not sure he's available [15:16:51] hey aude, can i bother you about something? [15:16:56] MatmaRex: ok [15:17:03] aude: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44874 :( [15:17:17] ah, yes :) [15:17:25] it'scurrently marked as high/critical [15:17:36] and while maybe 'critical' is a little over the top, it's certainly important IMO [15:17:53] need to see where it is in our priorities but indeed think it's quite high :) [15:17:58] i would have tried doing something myself had you not said you're going to work on it [15:18:07] and now i don't have the free time [15:18:08] the code is a bit of a mess [15:18:09] aude: I didn't have muck talk with amir though [15:18:35] 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa@lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 +comment (10sumanah) [15:18:35] liangent: hmmm, ok [15:22:52] 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa@lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 +comment (10krinklemail) [15:25:05] andre__: guillom zeljkof chrismcmahon - I am sorry for having to leave abruptly, not sure why the server suddenly hated me [15:25:08] aude: oh, i know it's a mess [15:25:20] aude: but i can't imagine how it can be so hard to get it to work :/ [15:25:32] MatmaRex: i have halfway completed code that works [15:25:37] sumanah: I had the same problem but could re-log in after a while [15:25:44] just need to make it bit nicer [15:26:05] maybe can post it as a "draft" and get feedback [15:26:16] aude: yay [15:26:20] it'd be great if you did [15:26:24] sure [15:29:38] I've stopped using MW for quite a while, is there a readily available rich text editor that allows on page image/video uploads yet? [15:29:46] that will work with smw [15:30:02] hi there kevindank - I think the answer is no, but I could be wrong [15:30:47] I'd be very suprised if someone made SMW work with non MW [15:30:55] The clue is in the name, etc [15:31:26] 03(mod) dumpBackup.php error with --uploads --include-files options: Unable to find the wrapper "mwstore" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47281 +comment (10John Horne) [15:31:40] 03(mod) replicate HTTPS architecture - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36648 +comment (10hashar) [15:32:41] I want to continue using Mediawiki as a knowledge base but everyones complaints is the inability to upload images and word documents easily [15:32:51] so now everything wants to switch to WP [15:33:25] What's difficult about the MW upload? [15:33:36] Visit the page, browse to the file, click upload [15:33:36] Wait [15:34:05] * sumanah unlike Reedy sympathizes with new users :-) [15:34:19] Reedy: I first have to upload the image, then go to create the page, then insert the image link into the page [15:34:25] kevindank: yeah, that's annoying [15:34:37] sumanah: really annoying [15:34:42] it would be better to be able to do it from the article edit page, just like in WordPress [15:34:48] exactly [15:35:11] and even worse, we currently use FCKEditor and SMW [15:35:27] fckeditor is now obsolete, and no other editor supports smw im hearing [15:35:49] kevindank: so, you have probably already heard about VisualEditlor [15:35:50] editor* [15:36:28] i heard of the project a couple years ago [15:36:34] but i dunno the status? [15:36:59] kevindank: alpha. sort of works already [15:37:02] !ve [15:37:02] There are multiple keys, refine your input: vector, version, versionlifecycle, [15:37:07] !visualeditor [15:37:11] !e VisualEditor [15:37:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [15:37:17] you are right [15:37:27] kevindank: you could try it out and see for yourself [15:37:43] kevindank: but you'll need the super-latest version of MediaWiki for it to work right now [15:37:50] The nightly? [15:38:01] kevindank: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/07/inventing-as-we-go-building-a-visual-editor-for-mediawiki/ and https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/08/breaking-through-walls-of-text-richer-wikimedia-experience/ might be interesting for you to skim [15:38:22] ah, here is what I wanted you to see: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/04/25/visualeditor-alpha-in-15-languages/ [15:38:35] kevindank: basically yes, but the 1.21 RC should work, too [15:38:48] yikes [15:38:59] seems like it would be a real task to get working correctly? [15:39:18] I know the SMW crowd would be grateful to you if you got it working and wrote up a little HOWTO [15:39:52] thanks for the documentation, it justs unfortunately, Im like a casual user at this point and its been a few years since ive developed on mw [15:40:07] switched over to WP but this exisiting site is on MW so trying to make fixing it up simple [15:40:15] Understandable [15:40:27] btw where are you kevindank ? What continent? [15:40:31] US [15:40:47] north america [15:41:08] kevindank: you can test it on Wikipedia to see if it's worth it [15:41:22] yeah ill take a peak [15:41:23] kevindank: you can enable the alpha version in preferences, in Editing [15:41:30] at the very bottom of the page [15:41:57] i think image inserting support is almost implemented right now, but not deployed on Wikipedia yet [15:41:58] We really do want feedback [15:44:42] 03(NEW) Special:Contributions "latest" and "newer" incorrectly linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48212 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [15:45:23] 03(mod) Special:Contributions "latest" and "newer" incorrectly linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48212 (10Benjamin Chen) [15:45:26] kevindank: are you by any chance in SF, Minneapolis, Portland, Philadelphia, Seattle, or Boston? [15:46:05] just outside of philly [15:46:38] kevindank: are you by any chance a Hacktory or PyStar person? [15:47:06] 03(mod) Give rollbackers the 'abusefilter-log-private' permission on wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47503 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [15:47:07] sumanah: niether [15:47:16] ah [15:47:36] I'm curious - what is the Philly webdev/PHP scene like, if you know? [15:47:44] and i just logged into wikipedia and tested the editor, i like it but it is a little confusing with the pop ups, and i dont see anyway to add an image [15:48:10] * sumanah looks at http://www.meetup.com/phillyphp/ [15:48:26] sumanah: I don't know any other Mediawiki developers in the area, but im active in Wordpress (http://kevindankowebdesign.com) and i do see quite a few developers...its mostly large companies though, dont see a lot of freelancers [15:48:28] kevindank: I think media addition/upload is not activated on en.wikipedia's VE yet [15:48:43] 03(mod) Special:Contributions "latest" and "newer" incorrectly linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48212 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:48:46] 03(mod) Make the "year" field default to the current year on [[Special:Contribs]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45580 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:48:58] sumanah: it is decent in philly, but I get a lot of calls from recruiters out of NYC [15:49:09] so not as good as NYC [15:49:13] Nod [15:49:13] ^ [15:49:21] (even though philly is closer) [15:49:27] kevindank: hexmode also lives in Pennsylvania vaguely near Philly [15:49:39] kevindank: where are you? [15:49:51] sumanah: Cool, im actually in Delaware [15:49:59] ^ hexmode: [15:49:59] I'm headed into philly this thursday if you're around [15:50:45] kevindank: also see NJ [15:50:47] hexmode: very cool, bad week - bought a house and settlement on friday a.m. lot of packing thursday [15:52:24] kevindank: ah... if you want to try in a 3-4 weeks, I'll meet up with you then. MediaWiki is wide open for work. We need some good devs [15:53:48] TBH i just don't have the time to dedicate to it, i work a full time job and then run my freelance business on the side, again most of my dev is really is WordPress at this point [15:54:26] best of luck though guys, really hope that a usable rich editor comes about soon! [15:55:02] kevindank: There is a ton of WP, work, true. [15:55:25] swimming in it right now hexmode: [15:55:49] and buddypres [15:56:42] kevindank: I know the VisualEditor team is working flat out on getting a usable editor out there for July 1st [15:57:53] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:VisualEditor-Parsoid_-_2013-02_Metrics_deck.pdf&page=6 it'll be able to insert or alter existing, uploaded material [15:58:34] 03(NEW) Enable zip as snapshot format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48213 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [15:58:50] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:VisualEditor-Parsoid_-_2013-02_Metrics_deck.pdf&page=10 but it's unlikely that, as of 1 July, it'll be able to help users upload as they edit [16:00:12] 03(mod) mediawiki.user: Anonymous users should not be identifiable cross sessions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 summary (10Krinkle) [16:00:19] 03(mod) need exception or how to avoid wikidata changes in filter's abuse log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 +comment (10mahitgar) [16:00:54] 03(mod) testextensions should find parsertests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42506 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:02:09] 03(mod) [CI jenkins] get jenkins to run again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48147 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:04:34] 03(mod) [Regression] skin: errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 summary (10Krinkle) [16:06:48] 03(mod) On-wiki configurable blacklist for Echo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47946 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:09:24] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [16:11:18] 03(mod) Wikidata deployment phase 2 on first set of Wikipedias (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45600 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:12:23] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:12:51] 03(mod) Closing Wikimania2012 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48026 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [16:14:13] 03(mod) RDF serializer for entities (baseline) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44578 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:14:23] 03(mod) Enable zip as snapshot format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48213 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:14:25] 03(mod) Special:EntityData should support RDF output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44577 (10abraham.taherivand) [16:17:13] 03(NEW) Almost all browsertests Jenkins jobs are failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48214 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [16:18:15] 03(mod) All MobileFrontend Jenkins jobs that run Selenium tests are failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46922 +comment (10zfilipin) [16:23:49] 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - upgrade ghostscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326 +comment (10Jarek Tuszynski) [16:25:53] 03(mod) Parsoid: Account for close/re-open of the same text style element in serializing to wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48194 04CRIT->normal (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:26:03] 03(mod) [CI jenkins] get jenkins to run again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48147 (10tobias.gritschacher) [16:26:34] 03(mod) Parsoid: Some but not all content of a template inside a table is repeated at the end of a template before the end of the table when a template is serialized with WTS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48180 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:28:40] 03(mod) Parsoid: HTML comment with immediately following table has newline split removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48179 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:29:55] 03(mod) VisualEditor should not try to initialise if no ContentEditable support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38128 +comment (10jforrester) [16:32:37] 03(mod) Selser corruption? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47998 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:36:25] qgil: hello [16:36:35] hi Rahul21 [16:37:13] 03(NEW) zuul should have distinct parameters for server calls and status url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48215 enhancement; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [16:38:04] 03(mod) zuul should have distinct parameters for server calls and status url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48215 +comment (10hashar) [16:38:11] 03(mod) zuul should have distinct parameters for server calls and status url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48215 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [16:39:11] 03(mod) Enable zip as snapshot format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48213 +comment (10f.trott) [16:41:46] qgil: Will the students know how many slots have been allocated to wmf? [16:42:20] Rahul21, yes, I believe it will be public information. [16:42:36] Rahul21, I mean, I believe Google announces publicly the slots of all orgs [16:42:55] Rahul21, anyay, I see no reason why not. [16:43:14] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 +comment (10Ryan Lane) [16:46:07] 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:47:40] qgil: the date is tommorow right? [16:49:42] 03(NEW) Document how to debug browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48216 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [16:50:40] 03(mod) Document how to debug browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48216 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:50:44] 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:52:07] 03(NEW) Jenkins: Merge seperate mediawiki-core-phpunit-{group} jobs and use parallel-phpunit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48217 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [16:53:52] 03(mod) wikibits: FF2Fixes.css should not be loaded in Firefox 20 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47202 +comment (10Krinkle) [16:54:21] 03(NEW) Investigate if Selenium can fake HTTP headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48218 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [16:55:55] 03(NEW) Upload of an image to commons.wikimedia.org is not changing the current image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48219 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; () [16:57:06] GorillaWarfare: hello [16:57:33] 03(mod) Upload of an image to commons.wikimedia.org is not changing the current image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48219 +comment (10sam) [16:58:12] 03(mod) Investigate if Selenium can fake HTTP headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48218 +comment (10cmcmahon) [16:58:57] 03(mod) Enable zip as snapshot format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48213 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:01:01] Hi Rahul21 [17:02:12] 03(mod) Upload of an image to commons.wikimedia.org is not changing the current image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48219 +comment (10efbrazil) [17:03:37] 03(mod) co-ment-like tool for inline comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46440 +comment (10qgil) [17:04:32] Rahul21, yes [17:05:06] 03(NEW) Move pull requests from github to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48220 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [17:07:22] 03(mod) [Frontend] Time as a datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48145 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:07:25] 03(mod) Install Tidy on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40029 +comment (10krinklemail) [17:07:30] 03(mod) Install Tidy on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40029 -ops (10Krinkle) [17:09:29] qgil: thank you! [17:10:43] 03(mod) API: meta=notifications throws fatal error in xml - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48009 (10Ryan Kaldari) [17:12:45] * Izaroundz pokes sumanah [17:12:54] hi Izaroundz - how are you? [17:13:11] good :) you? [17:13:16] Rahul21: hey when will your exam start ? [17:14:17] anyone here ever copied a skin? I try to copy monobook and rename all the references to monobook with caps and getting formatting problems [17:15:08] second question can you just create a Mediawiki:Skinname.css file? [17:15:36] Rahul21: der ? [17:15:39] !skinning [17:15:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning/Tutorial and the historical archive [17:15:50] Izaroundz: I'm not bad! [17:15:52] Dibbs: try this if you're creating your own skin [17:16:04] Dibbs: also, look at Modern - it's based on Monobook [17:16:19] Dibbs: as in, it includes parts of Monobook in itself, instead of copying them [17:16:43] Izaroundz: I have a fresh cup of green tea next to me so that's nice. :) [17:19:23] MatmaRex I have read most of that.. I found one reference to Monobook in Modern.. would there be anything else I need to change? so far all I'm trying to do is dupelicate the skin [17:19:56] 1.20 [17:19:57] Dibbs: sorry, i really don't have time to help you right now [17:20:09] ahh sumanah I'd probably do with an Iced Capp, Hazelnut shot but I'd have to go get it :P [17:20:10] Dibbs: the skinning system is slightly broken by design :( [17:20:18] harshkothari: 22nd may [17:20:25] so its dependant? [17:20:28] 03(mod) Concurrent uploading is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48090 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [17:20:29] ahh sumanah I'd probably do with an Iced Capp, Hazelnut shot but I'd have to go get it :P [17:20:33] Izaroundz: :-) [17:20:43] Rahul21: okies mine from 9th may :( [17:20:54] harshkothari: till? [17:21:13] Rahul21: 24th external viva [17:21:57] 03(NEW) Add parser tests for things related to Tidy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48221 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; () [17:22:20] 03(mod) Install Tidy on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40029 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:22:27] 03(mod) Install Tidy on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40029 (10Krinkle) [17:22:37] oh well I might have to try and reverse engineer someones who has written another monobook based skin and build it back into monobook [17:22:39] harshkothari: when do the exams get over? [17:22:52] Dibbs: you might want to just join forces with other skinmakers [17:23:05] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2013-May/thread.html#516 [17:23:28] um.. my site is virtually not monobook anymore [17:23:30] Rahul21: 24th may man due to external viva otherwise will complete 15th may [17:23:36] 03(mod) Jenkins: Add check ensuring all mediawiki-core php files have proper license headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42472 summary (10Krinkle) [17:23:39] this is why I need to make my own skin [17:25:19] 03(NEW) add interface messages to the top of Special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48222 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; () [17:29:08] 03(mod) Jenkins: Clean workspace for mediawiki extension jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42961 summary (10Krinkle) [17:31:03] 03(NEW) Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48223 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; () [17:31:58] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48223 +comment (10sam) [17:34:44] 03(NEW) Site link $1:$2 already used by item $3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48224 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [17:42:57] Is there a way to get to an article by using its pageid? I.e., is there a shortcut for an article like http://mysite.com/wiki/by-id/10274 ? [17:44:35] konr`: [[special:permalink]] [17:44:44] konr`: [[special:permalink/pageid]], i think [17:45:16] actually, it's oldid, not pageid. [17:46:15] MatmaRex: thanks! [17:56:29] 03(NEW) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [18:02:54] 03(mod) PDF image extraction fails - upgrade ghostscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23326 +comment (10maic274) [18:17:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Dirty diffs causing some citations to be duplicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48227 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [18:17:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dirty diffs causing some citations to be duplicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48227 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [18:28:04] 03(mod) Special:Translate does not show diffs on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48187 +comment (10snaevar-wiki) [18:34:15] in the db, what table table and column is the content for each page stored in? [18:35:19] ToddWork_: text table [18:36:04] thanks bawolff [18:36:06] In default config anyways. Wikimedia for example does something more complex [18:38:09] 03(mod) Jenkins: Job mediawiki-core-qunit fails sometimes due to database being read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47639 +comment (10Krinkle) [18:43:27] How can I use the API to get a list of pages with (a) content matching a string (e.g. 'you shall not pass') (b) categories matching a string (e.g. 'middle eas')? [18:45:03] 03(mod) Show diff link when appropriate on talk page notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48183 +comment (10Fabrice Florin) [18:46:43] konr`: there's an API module to perform a search, but I don't know if it would do an exact match or just return pages that contains any of those words [18:46:56] konr`: that's basically not possible, you can just use the search, though [18:47:33] konr`: for Wikimedia wikis, you can download the dumps locally and search through them using some application (there exist a few) [18:47:37] !dumps | konr` [18:47:37] konr`: For information on how to get dumps from Wikimedia Wikis, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps . For a how-to on importing dumps, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps . [18:47:51] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 (10vatsala.dorairajan) [18:55:23] 03(mod) setup redis on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41530 +comment (10Matt Walker) [18:58:34] 03(mod) Special:Translate does not show diffs on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48187 +comment (10snaevar-wiki) [18:59:26] Can I append the page's title after the base url, e.g. 'wikinews.org/wiki/Canadian MP crosses from Conservative to Liberal party', or that will lead me into deep trouble? [19:00:29] konr`: that should work, assuming you percent-encode the title itself [19:00:44] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding [19:01:08] konr`: for Wikimedia wikis at least, as making this work depends on some non-obvious server configuration :) [19:01:58] MatmaRex: thanks :) [19:03:30] konr`: also, you'll run into issues if the page title contains '?' [19:04:25] well, you might run into issues, maybe you won't if you do this right [19:04:31] but using wikinews.org?title=percent-encoded-title is safer if you don't care about pretty URLs [19:08:45] Also, the Search API, in a query like https://en.wikinews.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=conservatives&srprop=snippet&srwhat=text, seems to be returning the results with the highest match score. Can I, instead, get the latest results with any positive matching score? [19:11:52] 03(mod) setup redis on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41530 +comment (10hashar) [19:17:33] 03(mod) Research dip in unique uploaders for mobile contributions starting 5/3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48167 +comment (10Juliusz Gonera) [19:23:18] 03(mod) sfEditFormPreloadText no longer works as it used to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47150 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10f.trott) [19:27:16] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48223 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [19:28:00] 03(NEW) Create a subcomponent for PageSchemas extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48228 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [19:29:14] Holy cow, I can't believe we got that many gsoc slots [19:29:41] 03(mod) Create a subcomponent for PageSchemas extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48228 +comment (10katkov.juriy) [19:31:29] bawolff: and all the changes these guys make are going to then sit in gerrit forever... :( [19:31:30] <^demon> Indeed, that's more than ever. [19:31:38] or guys and gals, i guess. [19:31:58] Double more than ever I think [19:32:00] pessimisticRex [19:32:07] hey ^demon, could we try out the recursive thing? it'd be great if you could make two repos, one with regular settings, one with recursive merge [19:32:35] <^demon> Lemme dig up the setting name. [19:32:36] ^demon: and preferably give me +2 rights on each, so i can test out how merging things will play out ;) [19:32:43] MatmaRex: could be worst. They could be sitting in svn forever [19:33:06] Nikerabbit: sad reality :( there's a GSOC watchlist rewrite from last year rotting in gerrit [19:33:35] bawolff: once things got submitted to svn, they rarely got reverted unless they sucked badly. now they're not going to get merged until they're basically perfect [19:33:51] MatmaRex: what? we needed so many slots so that students can CR each other [19:33:51] and we're still reverting things all the time, too [19:33:55] MatmaRex: merging long term branches in svn sucks [19:34:01] 03(NEW) Create a subcomponent for Lingo extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48229 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [19:34:09] I have first hand experiance [19:34:30] oh, no doubt it sucks just as much in git [19:34:35] bawolff: could you review a rev for me? [19:34:57] <^demon> Bahhhh [19:35:00] <^demon> It's all or nothing. [19:35:02] <^demon> Not per-repo. [19:35:02] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-photo-ownership needs GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48125 +comment (10arichards) [19:35:13] Hexmode: depends if I need to test it (im on a cell phone) [19:35:21] <^demon> "This only affects content merges, and is off by default as the [19:35:21] <^demon> upstream implementation is experimental and may still be buggy." [19:35:24] ^demon: well... there is only one solution, then. :P [19:35:35] bawolff: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/61897/ [19:35:37] <^demon> I'm scareded :p [19:35:49] bawolff: don't know if you need more than the phone [19:35:50] 03(NEW) Create a subcomponent for Semantic Glossary extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48230 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [19:35:58] ^demon: we can always revert faulty merges and rebase manually, no? [19:36:13] i honestly doubt that the implementation would be so buggy to fail at merging trivial things [19:36:17] 03(mod) [SUGGESTION] Expose group memberships for query through OpenID teams extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29254 +comment (10mail) [19:36:18] and well, most merges we do are trivial [19:36:32] except for the release-notes ones and a handful of whitespace crap [19:36:32] <^demon> I'm more scared of something seemingly trivial being buggy. [19:36:37] <^demon> I haven't tested this *at all* [19:36:57] 03(mod) Special:Contributions "latest" and "newer" incorrectly linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48212 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:37:01] <^demon> Off-by-one bug could make the merge look ok, but choose the wrong line ;-) [19:37:21] Hexmode: honestly I should probably download and test that before giving it a +2 [19:37:22] i'm sure we'll notice a broken master quickly :P [19:37:38] Ill do it next time im on a real computer [19:37:53] and well, it's probably "buggy" like the alpha mediawikis are buggy [19:38:03] bawolff: any chance you'll be able to do that in the next 24 hours or know someone who could? [19:38:03] we still deploy them on one of the most visited sites in the internet [19:38:04] <^demon> Well, it's not just mediawiki/core. [19:38:14] <^demon> It'd be any repo using Merge If Necessary, which is most. [19:38:26] <^demon> I'm afraid of a dozen broken masters. [19:38:43] hm. [19:38:53] is anybody using that option already? [19:38:59] <^demon> Not sure. [19:39:02] Hexmode: ill probably be able to do it by tommorow lunch [19:39:11] <^demon> It only went into master ~6 weeks go [19:39:13] <^demon> *ago [19:39:21] 03(mod) Special:Contributions "latest" and "newer" incorrectly linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48212 (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [19:39:38] bawolff: ok... I accidently merged it into 1.21 w/o seeing it wasn't approved is why I ask [19:39:40] tyvm [19:40:09] <^demon> MatmaRex: If you want to test, I can give you the gerrit.war we're using right now and you can try locally :p [19:40:19] <^demon> Throw all the funny edgecases at it you'd like then. [19:40:25] <^demon> Ooh, or we could use labs. [19:40:29] <^demon> Labs is cool. [19:40:39] ^demon: i have no idea how would i run gerrit, let alone where [19:40:43] :) [19:40:54] Hexmode: I might be able to do it now. We can see if it happens before people coming knocking at my door [19:40:57] <^demon> Lemme make sure labs is up to date, and you can use that. [19:41:32] bawolff is the best! [19:41:57] ^demon: hey, would you look at that. http://git.eclipse.org/c/jgit/jgit.git/commit/?id=aa7be667bcca4bdb28b2485e28a05da54c431df7 [19:41:57] 03(NEW) findBuilderCorrectedTags runs even in editMode and inserts meta placeholders in foster-parent position, which creates dirty diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48231 normal; Parsoid: JS/DOM; () [19:42:07] ^demon: they seem pretty confident about it [19:42:18] I agree that bawolff is pretty great [19:42:21] * sumanah goes back to lurking [19:42:21] <^demon> Hehe [19:42:31] <^demon> That's good enough for me. [19:42:41] MatmaRex: btw my comment on wikitech-l was kind of me walking into volunteering myself to doing something about thr watchlist thing [19:42:48] :p [19:43:02] ^demon: if this fixes merging of release notes just like that, i'll love you forever <3 [19:43:28] ^demon: will you get a chance to look at that activeusers patch before the week ends? [19:43:34] bawolff: well... :) [19:43:47] <^demon> AaronSchulz: Yes. [19:44:01] good, I didn't think pestering Reedy anymore would work ;) [19:44:15] bawolff: i'd help, but i'm totally out of free time this week [19:44:16] I've been AFK for the last couple of hours ;) [19:44:59] that was yesterday [19:45:07] Im adding it to the long list of things to do when I have free time but im considering low priority [19:48:32] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki mobile site has errant trademark symbol (™) in footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41141 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [19:49:25] hey jorm - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours - I'm about to shoot a mail about this to wikitech-ambassadors -- ok? [19:51:56] <^demon> MatmaRex: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62669/ [19:53:05] 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48223 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [19:53:27] ^demon: yay [19:53:32] RoanKattouw_away, it seems sitematrix simply loads some global file :( [19:54:13] I do think that was involved yes [19:59:05] 03(mod) Allow CSS styling of new notifications without JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48165 +comment (10dejunkrobot-mw) [20:00:43] RoanKattouw: when should one use onMakeGlobalVariablesScript and when should one use onResourceLoaderGetConfigVars ? [20:01:31] jdlrobson: oMGVS is for page-specific things (e.g. pageid, namespace, does the user have the right to edit, etc.), oRLGCV is for global things [20:01:47] Different caching strategies apply to each [20:02:00] does MakeGlobalVariablesScript output an inline script? [20:02:04] Yes [20:02:12] So it gets aggressively cached in Squid [20:02:17] so in theory why would you ever use MakeGlobalVariablesScript ? [20:02:26] oRLGCV is in the modules=startup response, so it gets invalidated more often [20:02:44] MGVS is good for variables like "is the current page in category X" [20:02:57] ok makes sense [20:02:58] Basically anything that depends on the current page title/ID [20:03:06] jdlrobson: anything that request page or user context to determine its value [20:03:20] And user, too, yes [20:03:43] It has access to the request context in PHP while the RL one is truly global [20:14:00] 03(mod) Show diff link when appropriate on talk page notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48183 +comment (10mflaschen) [20:21:16] 03(mod) Contributions page links "newer" though the list has under 50 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47950 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:22:40] 03(mod) Contributions page links "newer" though the list has under 50 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47950 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [20:25:03] sumanah: have at it. [20:25:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39599 +comment (10John Broughton) [20:25:41] thanks jorm [20:29:25] 03(mod) ordermethod=popularity causes sql error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46523 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:30:34] 03(mod) ordermethod=popularity causes sql error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46523 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:38:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39599 +comment (10jforrester) [20:40:13] hello [20:40:21] Hi [20:41:38] hi bawolff [20:42:11] harshkothari: yeaay!!!! [20:42:24] Rahul21: \m/ :D [20:42:25] Hi Rahul21 [20:42:45] Raghuram: hello [20:43:05] harshkothari: I cant tell you how happy I am! [20:43:21] Rahul21: I am also :D [20:43:55] bawolff: what you do [20:44:36] harshkothari: my lucky number is always lucky [20:45:08] 03(mod) esams cluster unreachable using SSL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48208 +comment (10Braeburn) [20:45:21] Lots of things ;) [20:45:22] Rahul21: Ha Ha Ha well said :D then you should opt infinity as your lucky number [20:45:56] harshkothari: next time for sure :) [20:46:02] MediaWiki wise I fix bugs and do stuff like that [20:46:09] Raghuram: new here? [20:46:31] Rahul21: yes [20:46:39] harshkothari: But what type of infinity? [20:46:52] * bawolff likes countably infinite [20:46:53] bawolff: woow nice... i am new here [20:47:20] Raghuram: looking to contribute? and how did you hear about mediawiki? [20:47:25] how to install phpunit locally when pear cannot discover pear.phpunit.de? [20:47:31] 03(mod) mediawiki.user: Anonymous users should not be identifiable cross sessions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 -patch-in-gerrit (10Krinkle) [20:47:43] bawolff: countable infinity :D [20:47:44] wizardist: sacrafice a virgin at the alter of some ancient deity [20:48:02] wizardist: I joke, but installing phpunit is an utter pain [20:48:14] Rahul21: was browsing and landed on mediawiki page from there i came here. [20:48:23] I don't remember what I did last time I tried, other then remembering it took me several hours [20:48:48] Raghuram: Awesome, welcome to mediawiki land [20:48:52] Rahul21: ya sure why not... i will try my level best to contribute. [20:49:02] wizardist: What OS? [20:49:15] Raghuram: anything in particular you are interested in? [20:49:20] Reedy: windows, is that a problem? (I wish it is) [20:49:21] !howto [20:49:21] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [20:49:34] Hmm [20:49:45] I've got it installed on windows, never actually directly used it [20:49:53] bawolff: i dont have any idea about this.. so initially trying to understand this [20:50:00] Mostly for my IDE to know about phpunit classes [20:50:23] I need it to run some tests [20:50:27] bawolff: how can i contribute to the community ? [20:50:38] my IDE knows about PHPUnit as well :) [20:50:52] 03(mod) ordermethod=popularity causes sql error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46523 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [20:50:59] Raghuram: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute [20:51:03] auto_discovery 1 didn't make it [20:51:31] Raghuram: what are you proficient at? [20:51:49] Raghuram: Lots of ways. The best thing to do is try to find something you're interested in, or think could be better, and make it better [20:52:04] let's try to install the piece without pear/fear/pain [20:52:39] wizardist: lol [20:52:46] Rahul21: I basically work on Mobile applications and also work on Web site designing stuff and also into cloud computing. [20:53:31] I'm not all that familar with the mobile stuff, but we do have a bunch of people working on that sort of thing [20:53:44] They even have their own irc channel ( #wikimedia-mobile I think) [20:53:46] !howto | Raghuram [20:53:47] Raghuram: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [20:54:20] Raghuram: You might be interested in reading up on Extension:MobileFrontend [20:55:05] bawolff: yeah sure.. [20:55:16] Raghuram: anyhow, I have to go, best of luck [20:55:25] Raghuram: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile [20:55:50] bawolff: Thanks buddy [20:56:59] harshkothari: Thanks for the link. is there any stuff for Cloud computing ? [20:57:23] Cloud Computing? [20:57:38] Raghuram: for mobile applications you can contact YuviPanda [20:57:58] There are some organizations that like to use big distributed data stores as the MediaWiki back end [20:58:25] wm-bot: everything is there on the page buddy. what exactly do you want ? [20:58:26] Hi Raghuram, there is some error, I am a stupid bot and I am not intelligent enough to hold a conversation with you :-) [20:59:06] Raghuram: :) [20:59:32] Raghuram: What do you want to do with cloud computing on MediaWiki? [21:00:02] I think Raghuram is just looking for useful ways to contribute, and Raghuram has some experience with cloud computing [21:00:10] Aha. [21:01:23] sumanah: 21 slots!yeaaay [21:01:30] yes! [21:01:40] I think it's likely we'll give back a few of those. [21:01:46] Woah [21:01:50] That's a few more than last year [21:01:54] But still, it's lovely to have that amount of trust from Google [21:02:29] sumanah: well, MediaWiki (both the software and the community) is awesome like that :-) [21:02:40] sumanah: yes, 21 in Rahul21 is surely lucky :) [21:02:45] We shouldn't go wild and take 21 interns just because we can; we should ensure we only accept people we think will probably succeed (strong proposals, diligent mentors, committed students) [21:02:58] ashley: :-) [21:03:26] sadly not all FOSS communities are like MediaWiki's... [21:03:28] We've given back slots in the past and I would not be surprised if we did it again [21:03:32] ashley: it is sad! [21:03:41] storytime: [21:03:43] I was talking with one intern candidate [21:03:45] sumanah: quality proposals are important, otherwise next time we might end up getting less next time [21:04:13] the intern candidate was interested in a topic, and I pointed out to her that there are several mentoring organizations who could also use help in that area [21:04:29] and I suggested she widen her search to look at a few other orgs [21:05:00] 03(mod) mediawiki.user: Anonymous users should not be identifiable cross sessions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:05:02] and she said that she had hung out in some other channels, and #mediawiki on Freenode and #opw on GNOME IRC were the only ones that felt hospitable and welcoming and comfortable [21:05:24] sumanah: The trust factor with Google is very important, nice to see the way in which Quim has handled it so far [21:05:37] and I can totally believe that based on my own experiences [21:05:40] ashley: yeah. [21:06:01] In the other channels, there was a feeling of condescension [21:06:04] I somewhat attempted to join (well, depends on your definition of "joining", but...) this one FOSS project [21:06:10] they had, among other things, a MediaWiki wiki [21:06:36] it looks shiny but that's about it; the info is outdated and they've modified the MW core in less-than-ideal ways which have broken quite a few things [21:06:41] sumanah: I had a similar experience, I went to to the mysql channel and asked about a small installation issue with phpMyadmin, I got kicked out [21:06:47] but apparently that's not very relevant [21:06:51] ashley: :( [21:06:53] Rahul21: :( [21:07:00] Though, read their topic? [21:07:12] instead, what was relevant is that someone took offense in a normal, neutral edit I made to the wiki [21:07:37] Reedy: If it says "asking about phpmyadmin will get you kicked" that's still pretty ridiculous [21:07:44] because it is "spamming" (!) and "clutters up [the page] history" (!!) and creates more work for the person who complained (who, btw, wasn't even an admin) [21:07:56] marktraceur: "We don't * PMA -> #phpmyadmin" [21:07:57] Rahul21: When you first arrived in open source, I think you had a lot to learn about open source etiquette. But I think we're teaching you instead of just kicking you out, and that is better for everyone :) [21:08:10] ashley: oh wow that is just like WHAT [21:08:20] I do agree, kicking is over the top [21:08:26] "wiki, motherbleeper, do you speak it!" [21:08:43] * sumanah is unsure she deployed that reference correctly [21:08:46] Though I have seen other channels that'll do that, I don't think #mysql and #minecraft belong in any of the same groups [21:08:54] sumanah: I approve of your use of that reference [21:08:55] sumanah: pretty much exactly my thoughts..."it's a wiki, you _can't_ edit it" >.> [21:09:18] sumanah: You were supposed to use tin, not fenari [21:09:25] * sumanah laughs aloud [21:09:25] Reedy: I got a pvt message from some one in the group saying "Pls do not talk about such stuff here"(not the exact words) [21:09:35] I mean, who cares about IP editors deleting pages' content when you can whine at a registered user for [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT|making an edit you don't like]]? :) [21:09:40] 03(mod) mediawiki.user: Anonymous users should not be identifiable cross sessions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:09:52] 03(mod) Semantic Maps 2.0.1.2 distance queries broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46371 +comment (10Dan Bolser) [21:10:05] 03(mod) mediawiki.user: Anonymous users should not be identifiable cross sessions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44327 +comment (10Krinkle) [21:10:19] 03(mod) Semantic Maps 2.0.1.2 distance queries broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46371 +comment (10dan.bolser) [21:10:25] sumanah: I agree, I feel I have improved a bit with my open source etiquette [21:10:40] Rahul21: :D nice [21:10:50] I think you have improved substantially, Rahul21 :-) Always more to learn, of course [21:10:59] But I'm grateful for how much you have learned this year. [21:11:33] sumanah: correct Rahul21 learned a lot :D [21:12:00] ashley: I am still boggled at their .... anti-wiki wiki [21:12:12] sumanah: There's one person I would I like to thank alot and he goes by the name Krenair! [21:13:05] I appreciate Krenair as well. He's generally levelheaded [21:13:13] harshkothari: its sad that we are barely 2 kms apart and havnt met yet [21:13:36] sumanah: mmm, it's pretty...fascinating; especially how I wasn't contacted by an admin but rather a normal editor, who was apparently relaying the message from an admin or something...but eh, you can either waste your time with such boneheads or do something useful and productive, such as improving MediaWiki or editing a WMF wiki :-) [21:13:49] Rahul21: yeah very sad :( [21:14:03] ashley: yeah, goodness. :( [21:14:14] ashley: Don't be silly. You can't edit enwiki [21:14:26] Rahul21: will catch you in between 9th to 12th may [21:14:37] There's an upcoming talk http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/1063 called "My First Year of Pull Requests" - " in the past year that I've been developing software full time, I've seen a wide variety of responses from maintainers" [21:14:45] I'm looking forward to hearing these case studies [21:14:51] Reedy: ask me about that once I've stylized all the .css and .js pages over there ;-] [21:15:43] sumanah: When you start using GIT, you usually end up with a bunch of errors, and need guidance. He did that pretty well. [21:15:56] harshkothari: sure, I guess we should sleep now [21:16:14] Rahul21: its reading time man :D [21:16:22] :-) good night, India [21:16:36] harshkothari: when do you wake up? [21:17:01] tomorrow morning at 9 am I guess due to exam [21:17:14] harshkothari: oh, best of luck [21:17:36] Rahul21: thanks man :D [21:18:08] sumanah: good night [21:18:13] He sure is enthusiastic. :) [21:19:15] * Krenair is slightly too late. damn English work [21:19:17] Thanks sumanah [21:19:27] Cheers [21:23:14] sumanah: are you mentoring this year ? [21:23:26] anubhav: I do not plan to mentor this year, although that could change. [21:23:31] Why do you ask? [21:23:55] actually I have to find a co-mentor, along with chris steipp [21:24:07] anubhav: link to your proposal? [21:25:07] it is on bayesian spam filter for wikis [21:25:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Anubhav_iitr/Bayesan_spam_filter [21:25:36] I was looking on your website. You worked at fogcreek. That's so awesome [21:25:45] (It had its awesome and non-awesome bits.) [21:25:49] anubhav: Have you approached David Schoonover? [21:26:01] nopes [21:26:09] his IRC handle ? [21:26:37] anubhav: I think he is sometimes dschoon and sometimes dsc. [21:26:42] anubhav: dsc, if i remember correctly [21:26:48] ah, foiled. [21:27:13] anubhav: http://art.less.ly/ https://twitter.com/ascetics [21:27:32] He used to work at the Wikimedia Foundation but does not work here anymore. But I think he might be interested in your project. [21:27:41] also anubhav you should post to the mediawiki-l and mediawiki-enterprise mailing lists [21:27:42] !lists [21:27:42] mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [21:27:55] anubhav: There are many MediaWiki site administrators who might be interested in this. [21:28:10] And one of them might be willing to co-mentor. [21:28:15] actually, I have talked to Platonides. [21:28:20] Point them to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_mentors . [21:28:22] Chris told me he is mostly in [21:28:36] and Quim is waiting for a reply from Jon Robson [21:28:38] The more interest, anubhav, the better your chances of getting a few dedicated mentors [21:28:55] also, the more people who are interested in your proposal and want it to happen, the better the chance of your proposal getting accepted :-) [21:29:11] sumanah: schoonover is no longer working with us, is this Limn related by any chance? [21:29:19] Do all the mentors of mediawiki review each proposal [21:29:24] before selecting the students [21:29:30] or the respective mentors ? [21:29:36] drdee: No it's not Limn-related - I just have a hunch that he'll be interested in this one [21:29:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Anubhav_iitr/Bayesan_spam_filter [21:29:48] 03(mod) Purging does not work on deployment-prep / beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48203 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [21:29:52] (and yes, I am aware he doesn't work at WMF anymore - read the scrollback) [21:30:12] anubhav: Did you read the wikitech-l thread about the selection process? [21:30:33] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/356010 All the mentors are supposed to look at all the proposals. [21:30:51] sorry I might have that [21:31:07] *missed that [21:32:16] can people still apply to register as mentor. In the case of david I mean, can he still register as one ? [21:32:59] Yes, he can, I believe. [21:44:11] 03(mod) Getting AFTv5 logs via API times out on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46713 (10samuel.damashek) [21:44:49] 03(mod) Purging does not work on deployment-prep / beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48203 +comment (10hashar) [21:47:17] 03(NEW) Query for Property within record fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48232 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [21:49:31] jorm: ok, ambassadors mail sent [21:50:28] 03(mod) Purging does not work on deployment-prep / beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48203 +comment (10hashar) [21:52:47] * sumanah tells Meta about the Flow thing on the 9th as well [21:53:32] 03(mod) [Regression] skin: errorbox text should not be bold by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48197 -patch-in-gerrit +code-update-regression (10Krinkle) [21:55:01] (and Commons too) [22:06:49] later [22:07:05] Krenair: can you review this [22:07:07] bug [22:07:09] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57935/ [22:08:27] @notify csteipp [22:08:27] I will notify you, when I see csteipp around here [22:08:42] 03(NEW) Upgrade PHP_CodeSniffer to 1.4.5 on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48233 major; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [22:09:23] 03(mod) Move pull requests from github to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48220 +comment (10Indrani) [22:09:53] 03(mod) Specify default language on a per-page basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9360 +schema-change (10Pavel Selitskas) [22:10:58] 03(mod) Sync source and editor like TeXShop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48080 (10mstankus) [22:11:02] 03(mod) PHP CodeSniffer sniff for php_sapi_name() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44633 -upstream ; +comment (10Krinkle) [22:16:26] 03(mod) findBuilderCorrectedTags runs even in editMode and inserts meta placeholders in foster-parent position, which creates dirty diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48231 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:21:05] 03(mod) Move pull requests from github to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48220 +comment (10Krinkle) [22:23:23] 03(mod) Nearby link on wikivoyage that doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47636 +comment (10arichards) [22:25:15] Oh, it's a person [22:25:36] mwhudson: I thought your name meant someone was setting up http://hudson-ci.org/ for MediaWiki [22:26:01] marktraceur: sigh [22:26:12] doesn't everyone just use jenkins yet? :) [22:26:20] mwhudson: Well, we do, hence my confusion [22:26:26] /whois saves the day again [22:26:34] i'm actually trying to import a wikipedia dump [22:26:48] starting with http://dumps.wikimedia.org/miwiki/20130502/ because it's pretty small [22:27:16] but mwxml2sql --help is confusing me [22:27:25] what/which is the "stubs file"? [22:34:16] 03(mod) Provide JSON library/module by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45470 (10Legoktm) [22:34:17] 03(mod) Requested Scribunto/Lua built-in methods/functions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48176 (10Legoktm) [22:35:20] 03(mod) Upgrade PHP_CodeSniffer to 1.4.5 on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48233 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [22:37:53] 03(mod) Nearby link on wikivoyage that doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47636 +comment (10arichards) [22:38:42] 03(mod) Nearby link on wikivoyage that doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47636 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [22:39:02] 03(mod) Show diff link when appropriate on talk page notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48183 +comment (10b) [22:42:43] 03(mod) Move pull requests from github to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48220 +comment (10littleadventure.09) [22:43:45] 03(mod) Show diff link when appropriate on talk page notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48183 +comment (10mflaschen) [22:46:15] 03(mod) Show diff link when appropriate on talk page notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48183 +comment (10b) [22:48:40] 03(mod) "We found a more accurate location for you" notice is buggy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47898 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:00:20] 03(mod) No i18n for diff sub headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41619 +comment (10addshorewiki) [23:02:30] 03(mod) No i18n for diff sub headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41619 -need-volunteer +patch-in-gerrit (10Legoktm) [23:03:40] 03(mod) Parsoid: Account for close/re-open of the same text style element in serializing to wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48194 (10Gabriel Wicke) [23:03:40] 03(mod) Update normalization algo to deal with mw:EndTag and mw:StartTag and ignore them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 (10Gabriel Wicke) [23:20:49] 03(mod) Special:nearby doesn't work on desktop version of wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47598 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:45:44] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and re-enable it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 summary; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [23:52:21] 03(mod) Echo: do not send talkpage notifications if the edit is both made by a bot-flagged account, and marked as minor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47910 (10bsitu) [23:57:57] 03(mod) Block content in links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47963 +comment (10gwicke)