[00:00:41] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) MediaWiki silently breaks when you enable $wgValidateAllHtml outside of Apache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48342 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[00:01:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) MediaWiki silently breaks when you enable $wgValidateAllHtml outside of Apache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48343 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[00:01:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki silently breaks when you enable $wgValidateAllHtml outside of Apache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48343  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[00:01:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki silently breaks when you enable $wgValidateAllHtml outside of Apache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48342  +comment (10krenair)
[00:03:20] <Dantman>	 lol, so much for $wgValidateAllHtml
[00:05:00] <Dantman>	 It doesn't understand HTML5 and hence completely screws up validation.
[00:06:31] <Dantman>	 In fact it gives warnings like "Warning: <time> is not approved by W3C" and complains that js and css <script> and <link> lack type. While <meta name="ResourceLoaderDynamicStyles" content="" /> is perfectly fine.
[00:07:35] <Dantman>	 I wonder if we should just kill that feature after I kill XHTML 1.0
[00:07:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Serializer adds newline at the end of some documents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48344 normal; Parsoid: JS/serializer; ()
[00:10:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blocks timeseries response (with group=REGISTRATION) is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48341  +comment (10dtaraborelli)
[00:21:15] <Elecbullet>	 bawolff: you there?
[00:21:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow mobile users to be "remembered" on login. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46241  +comment (10jrobson)
[00:21:25] <bawolff>	 Yes
[00:21:32] <Elecbullet>	 Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
[00:21:34] <Elecbullet>	 That is all
[00:22:21] <bawolff_>	 :)
[00:22:58] <Elecbullet>	 Now I just have to bot-change every instance of a project: link to policies wiki:
[00:30:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Access keys - leave Ctrl+Option+e for the (newly-relabelled) "edit source" tab; Add Ctrl+Option+v for the VisualEditor "edit" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48107  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:32:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: In RTL, the "Edit" tab appears down-tab (to the left) rather than up-tab (to the right) of "Edit source" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48017  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:39:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Photo upload license icon is back to front (SA by CC rather than CC by SA) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48310  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:39:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Unable to compile LilyPond input file: Converting to PNG...GS exited with status: 9" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47534  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[00:43:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Serializer adds newline at the end of some documents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48344  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:52:19] <Elecbullet>	 Aaaaand I'm too dumb to figger out pywikipediabot
[01:08:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Serializer adds newline at the end of some documents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48344  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:19:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Files marked as deleted, but file description pages linger on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48321  normal->major; +comment (10closedmouth)
[01:20:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Files marked as deleted, but file description pages linger on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48321  major->normal (10closedmouth)
[07:37:16] <Harinath>	 <bawolff_> : do you have any idea who can resolve the issues by taking money if dont mind
[07:38:03] <bawolff_>	 Harinath: There's a list of some of them at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_development_and_consulting
[07:38:14] <bawolff_>	 Harinath: you can also try mwusers.org
[07:38:49] <Harinath>	 <bawolff_>:-  thanks once again.
[07:42:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unparsed wikitext shown in "An unexpected error occurred." message on "Link with page" dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47949  +comment (10TMg)
[07:46:26] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) style dt with font-weight: bold in mobile version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48352 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[07:47:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) When Wikidata knows only one article, there should be no prompt to add another Wikipedia link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47911  +comment (10TMg)
[07:58:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866  +comment (10TMg)
[07:59:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) upload.wikimedia.org: connection reset during file transfer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48353 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[08:42:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) add link widget should not invite to add links for MediaWiki: pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48354 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[08:55:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers query is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41078  +comment (10federicoleva)
[09:02:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show grid status in Ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48338  +comment (10addshorewiki)
[09:05:37] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Install Hotcat and other gadgets on kn.wikiquote.org and kn.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48355 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; ()
[09:12:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Score fails to render if $wgUseImageMagick is off (no trimming) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48082  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[09:16:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some files generated by Lilypond are not displayed due to OOM error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47826  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[09:16:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Unable to compile LilyPond input file: Converting to PNG...GS exited with status: 9" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47534  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[09:29:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Unable to compile LilyPond input file: Converting to PNG...GS exited with status: 9" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47534  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[09:36:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make domas' pageviews data available in semi-publicly queryable database format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42259  (10Nemo)
[09:42:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Score needs better error differentiation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47571  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[09:52:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) When Wikidata knows only one article, there should be no prompt to add another Wikipedia link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47911  +comment (10Gerard.meijssen)
[10:07:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) links to local files not working though $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:///" in LocalSettings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41584  +comment (10Daniel Friesen)
[10:15:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Score should support note names in other languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47604  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[10:23:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers query is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41078  +comment (10grazeroleg)
[10:27:13] <dnsdds>	 I want to create a namespace where after "page" and "edit" there'd be a third tab which redirected to Namespace:Article/original. On this page this tab would redirect back to Namespace:Article. what do?
[10:29:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:ActiveUsers query is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41078  +comment (10federicoleva)
[10:33:08] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: Somebody was working on an extension named NamespaceRelations to do that. I'm not sure how far they got
[10:33:31] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: If the extension doesn't work, both wikinews and wiktionary have javascript that do very similar things
[10:38:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Score extension should auto-categorize pages containing invalid input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47351  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:38:33] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: Thanks, NamespaceRelations looks exactly like what I need. However, the experimental status does worry me. What's the worst I can expect if I put this on a live site?
[10:39:03] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: the worst would probably be it doesn't work
[10:39:11] <bawolff_>	 !e NamespaceRelations
[10:39:12] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NamespaceRelations
[10:39:28] <rickyb98>	 !logs
[10:39:28] <wm-bot>	 channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/html/index.php?action=search&channel=%23mediawiki
[10:39:58] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: Well worst case of bad extension is pretty bad (security exploits), but I don't think that would happen with this extension
[10:40:12] <bawolff_>	 rickyb98: You do realize there is a link to the logs in the channel topic :)
[10:41:47] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: Well, I don't exactly run the most popular wiki ever, the biggest issue we've had were spammers bypassing account creation captcha. But yeah, I'll install it and see what happens :P
[10:42:33] <rickyb98>	 really??? o.O
[10:43:00] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: Also, the "extension status" on the extension's page is often misleading. There are many that say "stable" for horrible extension, and on the other hand there are many stable extensions that say "experimental" simply because nobody has updated the box since the days when the extension was experimental
[10:44:09] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: yeah, the captcha is known to be bypassable. Someone wrote an academic article on various websites captchas strength - Wikipedia ranked pretty low out of popular websites
[10:44:35] <bawolff_>	 (of course that depends which captcha you're using. )
[10:45:00] <bawolff_>	 rickyb98: Indeed "| Channel logs: https://bit.ly/Ks9kYa |"
[10:46:12] <rickyb98>	 yeah yeah i noticed.. i just did that because somebody did that to show me the logs and i repeated xD
[10:47:21] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: We just switched from ReCAPTCHA to the simple question and answer thing and it seems to have stopped them for now
[10:47:54] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: Anyway, it seems to work like a charm. Now I only need to find out where to define the nstab-extra- message for the tab name
[10:47:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing large (10k+) watchlist [Special:EditWatchlist but not /raw] fails with HTTP error 500 (fatal error, OOM) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39510  normal->major;  +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:47:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:Watchlist/edit is unpaginated, crashes browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20483  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:48:24] <bawolff_>	 Oh, you can just create a page named mediawiki:nstab-extra-foo on your wiki
[10:49:27] <dnsdds>	 Wow, so I can :P
[10:49:30] <dnsdds>	 Thanks for all your help!
[10:50:26] <bawolff_>	 You can customize almost all the text on mediawiki by pages in the mediawiki namespace - if you put ?uselang=qqx at the end of a url, it will show which piece of text corresponds to what page in the mediawiki namespace
[10:53:40] <dnsdds>	 Does getTitle() include the namespace or not?
[10:56:02] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: Yes, more specifically what getTitle actually returns is not text, it's an instance of the Title class that contains just about all the information about the title.
[10:56:24] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) If doing <score raw> and not linking/using midi file, should not require that it be generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48356 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Score; ()
[10:56:35] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: Don't treat it directly like a string, use the relevant method to work with the object.
[10:56:44] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: So in order to get just the title string without the namespace, I'd do...?
[10:57:40] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: database format (for storage, url, ids, etc...) or textual format (for human viewing; not the displaytitle)?
[10:59:06] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: I'm adding a category so I wanna go like "[[Category:whatever|".$articletitlehere."]]"
[11:00:27] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: Then textual. Use $title->getText(); also you'll probably want to wikitext escape it using wfEscapeWikiText
[11:01:00] <Dantman>	 Or maybe not...
[11:01:14] <Dantman>	 It's really hard to decide with category sort keys.
[11:02:04] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: So what would this $title be then? Title::newFromText('Template:Boilerplate'); ?
[11:02:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Get Wikimania 2008 videos back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42317  +comment (10Ruslik00)
[11:02:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unlock Wikimania wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42448  +comment (10Ruslik00)
[11:02:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't use \grace or \appoggiatura or other decorations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47589  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[11:02:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Unable to compile LilyPond input file: Converting to PNG...GS exited with status: 9" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47534  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[11:03:13] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: That or maybe the getTitle() you mentioned. I'm not sure what the context is. Though if you use newFromText be sure to check the return value, if the title is invalid that method will return null.
[11:04:08] <rickyb98>	 i have a problem with visualeditor and parsoid!
[11:13:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some files generated by Lilypond are not displayed due to OOM error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47826  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[11:14:25] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: Okay, not only does getTitle() include the namespace, the title it has is the title of the template I'm loading as a boilerplate, not the title of the article itself
[11:14:36] <dnsdds>	 Which I guess makes sense but isn't what I want to do
[11:15:03] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: I already told you getTitle() as a title instance not a string.
[11:16:12] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: Yeah, but it's not even the title I want. How do I grab the title of the article instead of the template I'm copying
[11:16:14] <dnsdds>	 ?
[11:16:34] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: I don't even know where you're calling this code from.
[11:21:17] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: It's an extension meant to add a boilerplate into a specific namespace. Here's the full code http://pastebin.com/qDfnvwZy
[11:23:16] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: There are a number of issues with that code.
[11:24:18] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: But the title of the article is on the editpage's article
[11:25:40] <dnsdds>	 Dantman: So it is. Are any of these other issues critical?
[11:26:30] <Dantman>	 dnsdds: They're really really bad practice... stuff that we're trying to eliminate so that in the distant future we can kill them off.
[11:35:02] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: It sounds like you're kind of duplicating the functionality of the preload url parameter
[11:36:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) crackling at start of OGG renditions of MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48029  +comment (10Carlo Stemberger)
[11:51:26] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: What does that mean?
[11:52:17] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: If you add &preload=template:Boilerplate to the end of an edit url, then that page is preloaded, provided that the page being edited doesn't exist
[11:52:35] <bawolff_>	 dnsdds: Its used a lot when combined with the inputbox extension
[11:54:00] <dnsdds>	 bawolff_: Is there a way to do that programmatically? In my wiki, specific namespaces are required to be in the exact same format, so typing that in every time might be a bore
[11:54:28] <bawolff_>	 oh, I guess in that case what you're doing with an extension is what you probably want
[12:02:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) New "tempo" attribute for <score> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48357 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Score; ()
[12:08:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New "tempo" attribute for <score> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48357  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[12:31:51] <MatmaRex>	 @notify Parent5446
[12:31:51] <wm-bot>	 I will notify you, when I see Parent5446 around here
[12:58:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183  +comment (10zack.wadghiri)
[13:01:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) zuul should have distinct parameters for server calls and status url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48215  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:03:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method MWNamespace::getNamespaceContentModel() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48117  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[13:08:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins 1.509.1 NPE: Failed Loading job gerrit-plugin-hooks-bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47996  +comment (10hashar)
[13:08:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins 1.509.1 NPE: Failed Loading job gerrit-plugin-hooks-bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47996  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:08:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins 1.509.1 NPE: Failed Loading job gerrit-plugin-hooks-bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47996  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:20:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method MWNamespace::getNamespaceContentModel() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48117  (10Brad Jorsch)
[13:20:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183  +comment (10Nemo)
[13:24:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Set up Arab wiki in beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48358 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[13:48:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Modernize watchlist editor (EditWatchlist) for AJAXy interactivity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32151  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[13:58:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:03:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Semantic wiki registry fails (1.8.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35389  major->normal; +comment (10[[kgh]])
[14:03:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:18:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:56:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show grid status in Ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48338  +comment (10tim)
[14:59:04] <bobak>	 hi
[14:59:32] <bobak>	 having issues with mediawiki on debian
[15:00:17] <bobak>	 any sites someone can recommend me looking at to have less hassle?
[15:00:42] <p858snake|l>	 are you using the package?
[15:00:44] <bobak>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Debian_GNU/Linux this page is highly confusing and partly outdated
[15:01:08] <bobak>	 yes
[15:01:38] <p858snake|l>	 easiest method, is not to
[15:01:58] <p858snake|l>	 bobak: Yes, most of our "Running MW on X os" pages suck
[15:02:22] <bobak>	 but I like debian and got used to most of the commands
[15:02:37] <p858snake|l>	 bobak: use the tarball to install it
[15:02:59] <bobak>	 I see
[15:03:15] <bobak>	 ty
[15:03:57] <p858snake|l>	 "This page describes how to install MediaWiki on Debian Squeeze using the latest official MediaWiki code. Quick install mediawiki version 1.15.5-2" <I hope that the MW guide is just out of date...
[15:05:19] <MatmaRex>	 !debian
[15:05:20] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu
[15:05:29] <MatmaRex>	 we really should kill all the pages this links ^
[15:05:43] <MatmaRex>	 ("See also" at the bottom)
[15:09:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) On meta and mediawiki, search for namespace + colon gives search backend error ("An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error:") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47761  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:09:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Certain searches return completely useless error message ("An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error:") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47761  summary (10MZMcBride)
[15:14:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Certain searches return completely useless error message ("An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error:") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47761  (10MZMcBride)
[15:14:59] <p858snake|l>	 MatmaRex: Me and a few others were going to mass delete all the "how to install on blah" pages at one time
[15:22:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use CSS pseudo-elements for brackets in section edit links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48256  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:24:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866  +comment (10maarten)
[16:04:22] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359 normal; MediaWiki: API; ()
[16:06:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10sam)
[16:13:07] <Paelius>	 anybody could help me do the running of mw on ubuntu?
[16:14:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) sfEditFormPreloadText no longer works as it used to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47150  +comment (10cariaso)
[16:16:33] <Krenair>	 Paelius, probably. Wikipedia runs MW on Ubuntu :)
[16:16:51] <Paelius>	 Krenair: I know that
[16:17:13] <Paelius>	 I have it on ubuntu, but it's not working
[16:17:21] <Krenair>	 Okay
[16:17:55] <Paelius>	 some problems with extensions I suppose
[16:19:36] <hexmode>	 what errors do you see, Paelius?
[16:21:43] <Paelius>	 hexmode: none - today, prior it was something with the base but now it's blank site on ff
[16:22:27] <hexmode>	 Paelius: what dose your apache error log show?
[16:22:31] <hexmode>	 does
[16:22:47] <Paelius>	 hexmode: where can i found it?
[16:23:45] <hexmode>	 Paelius: /var/log/apach2/error.log
[16:24:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) sfEditFormPreloadText no longer works as it used to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47150  +comment (10f.trott)
[16:46:55] <Paelius>	 eh
[16:47:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install Hotcat and other gadgets on kn.wikiquote.org and kn.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48355  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:48:04] <Krenair>	 Paelius, found the errors?
[16:48:39] <Paelius>	 today - no
[16:50:04] <Paelius>	 aah - there is one
[16:50:32] <Paelius>	 [Sat May 11 18:48:54 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 261900 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
[16:50:33] <Paelius>	 [Sat May 11 18:48:54 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[16:50:35] <Paelius>	 [Sat May 11 18:48:54 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico
[16:50:36] <Paelius>	 [Sat May 11 18:49:07 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 262144 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 261900 bytes) in Unknown on line 0
[18:22:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10sam)
[18:27:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10aaron.halfaker)
[18:44:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10sam)
[18:50:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10aaron.halfaker)
[18:51:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API resolved redirects to special pages (wgDisableHardRedirects / wgInvalidRedirectTargets) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26865  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:00:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/156  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[19:00:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Include link to module in script errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48360 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; ()
[19:06:33] <Gumboot>	 This channel OK for table formatting questions, or is that off-topic?
[19:06:54] <Jasper_Deng>	 I think those would be OK
[19:09:57] <Gumboot>	 OK then, is there any way to dynamically size a rowspan="x" based on the content of subsequent rows?
[19:10:40] <Gumboot>	 The best I have so far is where I want a row to merge with the one above, I set style="border-top-style:hidden" (or similar), but obviously the above content can't actually flow into that space.
[19:11:22] <Vulpix>	 Gumboot: you need rowspan="2" to the first cell, and it will "span" to the second row
[19:11:35] <Vulpix>	 *to the next row
[19:11:43] <Gumboot>	 Yeah, but sometimes I don't know how many rows it will span until those rows have been put in place.  By templates, for example.
[19:12:15] <Gumboot>	 So if I have templates for major row, followed by n minor rows, where the major row has a column spanning all its minor rows, then I'd have to count the minor rows manually.
[19:12:51] <Vulpix>	 if it will span until the end of the table, you may put a high number on it and it usually works without problems. But that won't work if the spand should end before the last row
[19:13:09] <Gumboot>	 I think IE10 actually has issues with rowspan=999.
[19:13:27] <Gumboot>	 Certainly I tried colspan=99 and it put a bunch of garbage space on the right hand edge.
[19:13:41] <Gumboot>	 Or maybe it didn't.  Maybe that happened when I pasted it into Outlook.
[19:13:51] <Gumboot>	 I kind of don't care about IE or Outlook.  So I do it anyway.
[19:14:50] <Gumboot>	 rowspan "until further notice" would be handy.  I guess I could just end the whole table, but then my columns would go wonky.
[19:16:09] <Vulpix>	 Gumboot: you may be able to compute the right number for rowspan using parser functions, but that would indeed add a lot of complexity
[19:16:38] <Gumboot>	 I guess I'll stick with hidden borders in the interim.  See how far it carries me.
[19:17:22] <Vulpix>	 or add another parameter to the template to specify the rowspan
[19:17:50] <Gumboot>	 My tables are too complex to count the rows easily.
[19:17:51] <Vulpix>	 that's probably not an "elegant" solution for users using that template, but will do the job
[19:21:22] <Gumboot>	 On a related note, in a series of {{/x
[19:21:23] <Gumboot>	 oops
[19:22:24] <Gumboot>	 In a series of {{/x|foo=bar}} {{/x|foo=bar2}} {{/y|foo=baz}}, would there be anything that could be put into /x and /y templates to detect whether they were the first in a series or subsequent ones?
[19:23:08] <Gumboot>	 So in my example list 'true' for the first and last instances, but 'false' for the middle one because it's the same template as used previously.
[19:23:19] <Vulpix>	 Gumboot: no, they only get what's passed as a parameters, a part from magic words like {{PAGENAME}} etc
[19:23:22] <Gumboot>	 Maybe that's a very awk way of thinking of th problem.
[19:24:01] <Gumboot>	 They can't set a breadcrumb in the page parsing or something, and detect it in a second instance?
[19:24:18] <Vulpix>	 nope
[19:24:36] <Vulpix>	 unless you use an extension for doing that, that I think it exists...
[19:24:40] <Gumboot>	 I bet I could do it with recursion.
[19:24:45] <Gumboot>	 That would be truly horrible!
[19:25:06] <Vulpix>	 !e Variables | Gumboot 
[19:25:06] <wm-bot>	 Gumboot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables
[19:25:07] <Gumboot>	 {{/x|foo=bar|/x|foo=bar2}}}}
[19:26:49] <Gumboot>	 (where /x ends with a reference to {{{{{1}}}}} )
[19:27:08] <Gumboot>	 Hm.  Except I have to escape |
[19:27:21] * Gumboot  checks his internal wiki for variables support.

[19:48:30] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) SMW 1.8.0 Subobject incompatiblity with RDF store - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48361 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[19:52:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API documentation mentions wrong token type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48324  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[20:02:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Gerrit Loops on HTTP Authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48362  summary; +comment (10David E. Narváez)
[20:17:22] <MatmaRex>	 !table user_options
[20:17:22] <wm-bot>	 For help on creating tables in wikitext, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables>
[20:17:26] <MatmaRex>	 ugh
[20:17:27] <MatmaRex>	 !schema
[20:17:27] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[20:18:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Visual editor inserting pawns into articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48346  +comment (10Fran Rogers)
[20:20:36] <franny>	 ♙
[20:22:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) FixAbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48363 major; Wikipedia App: Localization/Translation/Language; ()
[20:30:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225  +comment (10zfilipin)
[20:36:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) FixAbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48363  +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki)
[20:36:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) "Add original text" button is missing for the fuzzy strings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48364 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[20:36:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) FixAbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48363  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[21:16:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should not become active on non-wikitext ContentHandler-type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47456  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[21:19:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Gerrit Loops on HTTP Authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48362  (10christian)
[21:22:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Gerrit Loops on HTTP Authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48362  +comment (10david.narvaez)
[22:16:09] <Jasper_Deng>	 in case services split off again
[22:18:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) .editsection links should not be part of the <h#> element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11555  +comment (10S. McCandlish)
[22:19:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) JavaScript code coverage analysis (JSCover) in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48365 enhancement; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; ()
[22:33:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE tab missing oldid when using edit source on an oldid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47453  (10James Forrester)
[22:34:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: When the diff result is null (no changes), don't show a confusing blank diff but instead a message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43754  +comment (10James Forrester)
[22:43:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa@lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057  +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki)
[22:44:38] * Jasper_Deng  thought stability returned but just saw that split, so...

[22:47:21] <Ringtailed-Fox>	 hiya, guys... i'm having some troubles with trying to get my mediawiki install upgraded from 1.20.3.... http://pastebin.com/FMft6exT
[22:51:14] <Ringtailed-Fox>	 how do i upgrade my mediawiki install?
[22:51:47] <Jasper_Deng>	 Ringtailed-Fox: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[22:52:04] <Ringtailed-Fox>	 i tried upgrading but got this issue: http://pastebin.com/FMft6exT
[22:52:58] * Jasper_Deng  sees your pastebin and unfortunately doesn't know how to troubleshoot install scripts

[23:00:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Can't delete-merge two paragraphs together if the first one ends with an inline-alien - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48366 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[23:02:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't delete-merge two paragraphs together if the first one ends with an inline-alien - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48366  normal->minor (10James Forrester)
[23:22:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS modules not loaded for transcluded RunQuery forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36180  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:29:43] <Jasper_Deng>	 in view of those netsplits
[23:34:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Whitespace preservation for auto-links not working sometimes(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48367 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[23:34:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace preservation for auto-links not working sometimes(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48367  (10James Forrester)
[23:37:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS modules not loaded for transcluded RunQuery forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36180  (10f.trott)