[00:00:02] 03(mod) changing a Snak's time value from a valid to an invalid one will not disable Claim's "save" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48621 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:00:07] 03(mod) JavaScript UI fails if entity page data model contains unexpected DataValues JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48622 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:03:14] 03(mod) JavaScript UI fails if entity page data model contains unexpected DataValues JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48622 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:24:48] RAN1: I am troubleshooting why the templates I imported don't work, and I found a related FAQ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#Templates_imported_from_other_wikis_.28such_as_Wikipedia.29_don.27t_work_for_me which mentions copying all of the related CS and JavaScript for the template. [00:25:05] How do I know which js and css I should have copied along with the templates? [00:25:19] s/copied/exported [00:25:36] skay: Do you want me to do it for you or tell ya how to do it? [00:25:54] The latter requires some knowledge of CSS/JS. [00:26:09] Or at least an idea of what the two are supposed to do. [00:26:17] RAN1: assuming I don't get too annoying, try to tell me how to do it. But if I don't have enough css/js knowledge, feel free not to [00:26:30] I've tweaked css before, nothing elaborate [00:26:41] I know what javascript is, but I don't regularly code in it [00:26:53] I've spent most of my coding live in backend web service stuff [00:26:58] s/live/life [00:27:24] Ok, well, maybe this'll be better. What browser do you have? [00:27:39] Firefox 22.0 [00:27:56] Ok. [00:27:57] I have Firebug too, because it's fun [00:28:05] Oh, that's better. [00:28:20] Ok, right-click the template and have Firebug inspect it. [00:28:27] Is it just Template:Citation? [00:28:56] that's one of them, but then I tried many others (there are some for doi, etc.) [00:29:31] ok, I'm inspecting the template [00:29:51] I can grab css from the CSS tab in firebug? [00:30:52] Give me a moment, multitasking. [00:31:50] Actually, skay, can you give me a link to your template on your website? [00:32:19] oi, I never do this that way [00:32:36] RAN1: http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Citation [00:32:57] RAN1: I also made a test page for trying out the templates http://vegetablegargoyle.com/wiki/index.php/Literature [00:33:44] odder: is there an easier way to do what I want? I'd like to be able to list a lot of references for a literature search I'm doing, and I'm working with someone who is saving information on a mediawiki [00:33:55] skay: import Module:Citation from Wikipedia. [00:34:02] Er. [00:34:09] Actually, this list. [00:34:14] RAN1: OH! that's the way to do it? [00:34:17] skay: when I copy templates from Wikipedia, I check their code to see if they use any CSS classes or IDs [00:34:32] Actually, skay, I'm gonna message you the list. [00:34:34] RAN1: give me a moment while I go look up how to import modules [00:34:41] okay [00:34:44] if they do, I go to MediaWiki:Common.css, do Ctrl + F, and copy the CSS :) [00:34:57] this might not be what you want though [00:36:19] odder: I think the issue is that the Modules weren't included with the templates exported. [00:36:43] If you look at the templates used list for the page, it includes a bunch of Module pages not included on skay's wiki. [00:37:14] I see. [00:38:03] Which is gonna be bothersome. [00:38:16] Should check if that bug is in bugzilla. [00:39:13] Hmm, [00:39:27] Yeah, apparently Special:Export does not export Modules. [00:39:29] = annoying [00:41:27] Yuck, not bugzilla, Scribunto, sorry. [00:42:22] Anywho, skay: The problem is Special:Export doesn't see the {{#invoke}} tag as a page that needs to be exported, even though it's included in the templates used list. [00:42:26] RAN1: if I want to export module pages, I don't see a way to do it easily using the Special:Export form... does one do it via http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Export/Module:Citation/CS1 and so on? [00:42:32] if there is an easier way to do it, let me know [00:44:12] Ok, the best way to do it is to take all the Modules and put them into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export 's export list text box. [00:44:32] Include full history and templates, export it, and that should solve your problem. [00:44:52] * after import [00:45:01] You may want to be careful about file size. [00:45:04] thanks, thanks. I will see what happens [00:45:19] and I have a lot of leeway in breaking my own stuff [00:45:59] 03(NEW) Add user-agent variable for abuse filtering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48623 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; () [00:46:11] Well, just be careful about it. [00:47:01] 03(mod) Add user-agent variable for abuse filtering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48623 normal->15enhancement (10billinghurst) [00:47:01] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10billinghurst) [00:51:10] skay: For each individual Template implementing Lua, you'll have to check the #invoke dependencies. [00:52:14] skay: Also, if you haven't done all that yet, I think you only need to export citation/CS1 [00:52:33] RAN1: I'm partway through some of it [00:52:42] Well. [00:52:49] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-license-custom-url provides a broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48624 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [00:52:54] Module:Citation/CS1 should be the only module you need to export [00:53:06] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-license-custom-url provides a broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48624 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [00:53:48] RAN1: exported/imported it, still troubleshooting [00:53:51] All the other ones will be exported with Module:Citation/CS1 [00:54:06] Hmm. [00:54:32] !shorturl [00:54:32] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [00:55:14] skay: The folder containing index.php should be in /w/, you use the manual link for setting up stuff like /wiki/ [00:56:39] RAN1: I'm confused... does this mean I need to move my wiki folder to w, or that I should just move www/index.php to ../w/index.php? [00:56:50] Oh, hmm. [00:56:59] Well. [00:57:12] I assume the folder you have index.php in currently is /www/wiki/index.php [00:57:14] Correct? [00:57:18] correct [00:57:36] everything is under /var/www/wiki/ at the moment, to be exact [00:57:43] Ok. [00:57:54] Do you use a terminal to manage your wiki? [00:58:25] I've got $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; in LocalSettings.php [00:58:32] RAN1: yes, is that a mistake? [00:58:49] I installed it by hand from the command line following the instructions on the install page [00:59:01] Hmm. [00:59:07] Well, you've done it wrong. [00:59:14] It should be at /www/w/ [00:59:15] So. [00:59:26] oh, oops. okay. I can start over if that's easier [00:59:27] Go back to the command line, then get to the /www/ directory [00:59:34] Run the following commands. [00:59:47] mkdir w/ [00:59:57] cp wiki/* w/ [01:00:25] After that's done, you should verify everything copied correctly with [01:00:27] ls w/ [01:00:29] and [01:00:31] ls wiki/ [01:01:02] using -r when cp? [01:01:11] Yeah. [01:01:18] okay, done [01:01:18] Sorry, I tested that out with a single file. [01:01:23] no prob [01:01:27] Anyways. [01:01:31] After that's done, just [01:01:35] rm -rf wiki/ [01:01:57] Let me know when you've done all that. [01:02:18] okay, I've copied the content to w, and rmoved wiki. [01:02:33] I'm guessing I should fix $wgScriptPath [01:03:00] One sec. [01:04:15] Hmm. [01:04:23] Did you set up according to the Short URL manual? [01:05:26] I think so, but it is possible I did something incorrectly, considering. [01:05:48] Hmm. [01:06:02] Okay, I was getting an error, but just now changed $wgScriptPath to "/w" [01:06:09] Hmm. [01:06:31] if I did that completely incorrectly, I can nuke my site from orbit and start over [01:07:24] skay: You ran php maintenance/install.php ? [01:07:29] if I manage to do this, I will write a tutorial on how to add all of the citation templates. [01:07:44] Hmm. [01:08:17] Well. [01:08:19] RAN1: yes [01:08:24] I'm not an expert in Short URLing. [01:08:35] One sec. [01:09:12] skay: Go through this and make sure everything is done correctly. If you can't find a mistake, come back here and see if someone else can't help ya. [01:09:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [01:09:18] Wrong URL. [01:09:24] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache [01:09:55] Sorry, I don't know my web servers all too well. [01:09:57] skay: Oh hi skay [01:10:03] marktraceur: hi :) [01:10:28] RAN1: no problem. thank you for all of the help so far. [01:10:32] skay: Did you set $wgArticlePath ? [01:11:07] RAN1: no, I don't see it in my LocalSettings.php, so that is a mistake [01:11:16] Um, yeah. [01:11:25] $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [01:11:26] I'll stop bugging you for a bit, and double check all the documentation on short urls [01:11:34] That needs to be in there too. [01:12:01] Try that out first. [01:12:16] RAN1: but why would it have /wiki in the path when the filestructure does not have wiki? [01:12:30] skay: Truth is /wiki/ doesn't exist on Wikipedia. :P [01:12:59] It's a virtual directory in the sense that the filesystem can't see it but the webserver will reinterpret it and pass the article name to index.php [01:13:10] * filesystem doesn't have it [01:13:24] * /w/index.php [01:13:32] Sorry, botched explanation. [01:13:49] no problem, I think I have it. [01:14:03] It's a rewrite rule :) [01:14:10] Did you add that code to LocalSettings.php yet? [01:14:20] Also, rewrite rule might be useful too. [01:14:21] RAN1: yes [01:14:43] Let me go throught eh apache docs... and also I have to admit that I'm thinking of not using short urls, this is a pain [01:15:05] Actually, does anybody have a historical perspective on this? Was Short URLs used on Wikipedia back when it first started? [01:15:51] skay: Read the Manual:Short_URL/Apache page first, it provides a pretty nice setup explanation. [01:24:47] skay: In the meantime, I'm gonna look into your Template:Citation problem, got some more time on my hands now. [01:25:26] RAN1: thanks very much! [01:27:41] skay: For the moment, though, you may want to comment out the $wgArticlePath line. [01:27:47] All the links now go to /wiki/ [01:38:04] RAN1: I was able to get the apache rules (very helpful page from the manual, shorturls.redwerks.org) [01:38:16] Ok. [01:38:32] Ok,looks like the short URL works. [01:38:37] Nice. [01:39:07] Here's the thing I don't understand. [01:39:14] Actually. [01:39:15] Nvm. [01:42:18] skay: Hmm. [01:42:27] Script error is not useful. [01:43:16] RAN1: it's automatically generated. I'm assuming it is a stack trace from php when it tries to call lua??? [01:43:37] is there a log file that would be more helpful to look at? [01:44:26] Well. [01:44:32] (hey sweet! when you click on the stack trace it jumps to the module and the line. this is new to me, so I am easily impressed) [01:45:01] Huh? [01:45:16] Huh. [01:45:17] Cool. [01:45:24] I never knew Scribunto could do that. [01:45:26] When you click on Script error, right? cool [01:47:01] "local this_page = mw.title.getCurrentTitle();" [01:47:09] Uh oh. [01:47:48] That should not be happening. [01:49:45] title being a nil value? [01:50:37] RAN1: I don't know why it thinks title is a nil value [01:51:23] Hmm. [01:55:16] Hmm. [01:55:27] Sorry, I don't know what to say. [01:56:12] Me either. you've helped a lot though. I very much appreciate it. I am going to take a break from this and maybe I'll figure it out while I'm doing other stuf [01:56:30] that happens sometimes. I'll stay logged in, but I'm afk [01:56:54] Kk. [01:57:45] Sorry I couldn't fix this for ya, it's something to do with the Scribunto libraries as they define that mw.title: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual [01:57:49] Hope that helps. [01:58:03] thanks [01:58:38] Actually. [01:58:53] skay: Where/how did you download Scribunto? [01:58:56] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10sam) [01:59:38] either via an autogenerated bundle downloader, or git clone. I installed a whole bunch of extensions at once, now I can't remember which method I used for Scribunto. let me check [02:00:08] Make sure you git clone'd the REL1_20 branch. [02:00:14] probably a download since the directory isn't a clone [02:00:45] Ok. [02:00:46] Nvm. [02:01:34] If it was a download you should have had no problem with master and REL1_20 differences. [02:02:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scribunto#Installation I used the download link via that section [02:02:22] it has a dropdown for 1.20 [02:02:46] Yeah, in that case it's not that. [02:02:48] Oh well. [02:03:25] Will let you know if I find anything that might fix that. [02:03:59] okay. this time I'm really going afk. see ya [02:06:35] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10risker.wp) [02:23:51] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10sam) [02:33:19] skay: It looks like your problem comes from the fact that the TitleLibrary (which is required to get the Title object for the current page) is missing in the REL1_20 branch. [02:33:51] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10risker.wp) [02:36:50] skay: The best advice I can give ya right now is to wait till 1.21.0 is released and then checkout the origin/master branch. [02:45:08] Btw, as you may or may not know, Wikipedia runs on 1.22wmf3, so Template:Citation won't break on Wikipedia but it will break on 1.20. If you want you can checkout REL1_21 and go to the master branch for Scribunto, might be easier and is faster. [02:45:13] 03(mod) Many character sets don't work in texvc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/798 +comment (10tim) [03:06:38] 03(mod) Aramaic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47229 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:27:25] 03(NEW) Provide namespace IDs and names in the databases similar to toolserver.namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48625 trivial; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [04:35:06] 03(NEW) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [04:45:40] 03(NEW) Provide shortcut "sql" or similar to connect to the correct database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48627 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [04:59:37] 03(NEW) Provide replication lag as a database function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48628 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [05:36:24] 03(mod) Cannot delete tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45597 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [05:49:24] 03(mod) Disable TTMServer update jobs for test.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46602 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [05:55:40] 03(mod) JSON extension dependency has a non-free component: JSON_parser.c - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47431 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:55:42] 03(NEW) removal of non-print character from Special:RecentChanges (user creation log) between account names — when grouped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48629 normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; () [05:55:50] 03(NEW) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; () [05:55:53] 03(mod) removal of non-print character from Special:RecentChanges (user creation log) between account names — when grouped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48629 normal->15enhancement (10billinghurst) [05:56:27] 03(mod) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 (10David Chan) [05:56:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33077 (10David Chan) [05:57:00] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:04:17] 03(mod) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 +comment (10david) [06:32:50] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:04:42] 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308 +comment (10dixond) [07:11:29] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-license-custom-url provides a broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48624 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [07:11:33] 03(mod) Link to custom copyright tag select invalid due to "deed" appended to URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40472 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [07:12:23] 03(mod) jquery.i18n does not work in Internet Explorer 8 and earlier versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45958 +comment (10santhosh.thottingal) [07:29:04] @notify siebrand [07:29:04] I'll let you know when I see siebrand around here [07:38:00] 03(mod) A minor error in maintenance/tables.sql still exist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48608 -easy ; +comment (10PleaseStand) [07:38:01] 03(mod) [Regression] Installer: MySQL Fatal Error "1283: Column 'si_title' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index" for collation set to "binary" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47191 +comment (10PleaseStand) [08:13:04] 03(mod) integration home gluster volume is readonly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48574 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:13:43] Test [08:14:23] 03(mod) Get rid of GlusterFS dependency on beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47870 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:15:24] 03(mod) Search and replace not working for lookahead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48614 +comment (10XP1) [08:15:54] QUIT [08:18:07] 03(mod) mwe-upwiz-license-cc-zero: Parse error at position 28 (
unsupported) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47132 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:21:01] 03(mod) "new messages" count not updating when marking some messages as read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46388 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [08:22:23] 03(mod) mwe-upwiz-license-cc-zero: Parse error at position 28 (
unsupported) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47132 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [08:25:45] 03(mod) [OPS] udp2log logs are recreated as root:root preventing logging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47980 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:28:44] 03(mod) [OPS] beta: get SSL certificates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48501 +ops; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:35:19] 03(mod) Run only Wikibase Lib and Repo tests and separately the client tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42549 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:39:48] 03(mod) Request for new mailing list: qa@lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48057 +comment (10hashar) [08:45:05] 03(mod) Enable phpunit tests for Echo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48554 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:49:22] 03(mod) Enable phpunit tests for Echo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48554 +comment (10hashar) [09:02:54] 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:04:21] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:06:03] 03(mod) Sometimes, Learn > Upload .. headings are incorrectly centered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37109 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [09:08:05] 03(mod) Options form at the top of Special:Watchlist needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48615 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:35:16] hashar, you committed a file authored by ialex in 2012 but that nonetheless show you as the author in the top ? :S [09:35:59] Platonides: and the commit is ? [09:36:05] 307eee22b6cfc8354e9fb746a3fb9cfe9c9dc041 [09:40:05] Platonides: the git Author field is iAlex, I am in the git Commit field. [09:40:11] Platonides: I am not sure what is wrong [09:43:17] hashar: tests/phpunit/includes/specials/SpecialPreferencesTest.php says Copyright © 2013, Antoine Musso [09:43:23] hashar: that's probably what Platonides means [09:43:57] although i'm not sure why we care. i accidentally "authored" tyler's hooks rewrite... :( [09:48:48] MatmaRex: iAlex wrote the bug fix, I wrote the unit tests :-] [09:48:52] so yeah the @author is correct [09:48:59] Platonides: ^^^^ :D [09:49:10] git does not let us specify multiple authors or a co author [09:49:19] :) [09:49:42] "ideally" I would have sent a patch with the failing tests and ialex would have sent a child commit that would fix them [09:50:38] meh, pretend tdd :/ [09:50:49] speaking of which, hashar, want to do some CR? :) [09:54:15] 03(mod) Math extension has problems with Arabic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48118 +comment (10praveenp) [09:54:15] 03(mod) Math extension doesn't support many languages including Malayalam, Hindi, and Tamil - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48032 (10praveenp) [09:54:33] MatmaRex: doing some doc update right now :-] [09:54:42] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [09:59:43] anyone know how to let mw.msg handle more complex messages ? [10:00:16] let it ignore the templates etc, and just do argument substition for instance ? [10:00:25] thedj: mw.loader.load('mediawiki.jqueryMsg') and pray [10:00:43] ah, wait, argument substitution should be built-in? [10:01:17] thedj: mw.msg('message', 'param1', 'param2', ...) [10:01:54] hashar, clarified in the commit message of the follow-up [10:01:55] yeah, you get "unknown operation: flickr author (which is a template used in that message) [10:02:22] thedj: try mw.message(...).text() [10:02:29] or .plain(), i'm not sure right now [10:02:32] ah, .plain should work [10:03:01] why don't we have the gerrit bot here, btw? [10:03:03] i thought that wasn't doing argument parsing, but the docs say it does. [10:03:14] Platonides: i believe some found it too noisy [10:03:17] Platonides: it's in #wikimedia-dev [10:03:33] Platonides: wikibugs_ would be there, too, if it wasn't stupidly hard to move for some reason [10:03:43] Platonides: honestly there is no point [10:03:45] oh, it's reporting there even core commits, fine [10:03:46] Platonides: (mutante-away knows more) [10:04:34] Platonides: and there's a bug or two [10:04:36] !bug :wikibugs [10:04:36] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3awikibugs [10:05:17] Platonides: so the PreferencesTests only do a few queries related to the LinkCache [10:05:43] all related to the evil LinkCache http://paste.openstack.org/show/37459/ :D [10:06:03] I am wondering whether we could instruct the LinkCache to be simple Hash (aka per process) [10:07:46] I hate our code [10:08:18] it would probably be possible [10:09:09] it seems each cache reinvent the wheel [10:09:36] and how many times did we reinvent the poolcounter? [10:09:42] same ehe [10:10:05] and I HATE that singleton stuff [10:11:35] all of our Caches should have a way to specialize the ObjectCache to use [10:11:44] and all of them should rely on the same interface [10:12:15] 03(mod) The source language of a page should be arbitrary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35489 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [10:12:49] 03(mod) Math extension does not support RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48118 summary (10praveenp) [10:13:15] I just found throw HTMLFormFieldRequiredOptionsException::create( $this, $missing ); in a constructor [10:13:58] annnnd php does not let us redefine /override a class [10:13:59] grbmblbl [10:14:04] I can't redefine LinkCache [10:14:19] well, you can abuse the autoloader [10:14:31] define a LinkCache class before it is needed [10:14:41] I would prefer letting us specify the BagOfStuff to use :-] [10:14:42] and the autoloader won't load the real one [10:14:54] but that needs refactoring the whole LinkCache class [10:16:48] the worth is that it also has a process cache uhuh [10:27:05] and I can't wait for us to use traits [10:27:12] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-license-custom-url provides a broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48624 +comment (10tomasz) [10:27:15] to factor out all the singleton stuff :D [10:28:57] 03(mod) GRAMMAR should allow selective bolding, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27223 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [10:36:25] ahahzehaze [10:37:15] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [10:39:15] Platonides: and LinkCache can now let us specify a different singleton : D https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64564/ [10:41:47] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 +comment (10tomasz) [10:41:58] I am going to be evil and create a MediaWiki\interfaces\Singleton [10:47:30] 03(mod) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [10:52:06] 03(NEW) Permalink URL is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48631 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; () [10:57:57] 03(NEW) missing space between links in liquidfeedback entries. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48632 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; () [10:58:35] 03(NEW) Failing QUnit test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48633 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [11:01:25] Shame PHP isn't like JavaScript or Python [11:01:59] Making classes more flexible could be much more elegant if it were. [11:05:58] 03(mod) Permalink URL is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48631 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [11:05:58] 03(mod) It is missing the server name in the URL link from summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25765 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [11:07:18] * Making (insert any feature here) could be much more elegant if it were [11:07:26] lol [11:09:24] Create a constructor which creates another constructor. The first constructor accepts types of constructors and instances that the code depends on as arguments then creates a new constructor which uses those things without needing to be specified centrally, statically, or each time. [11:09:45] wat [11:11:09] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-May/069482.html oi [11:12:03] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:pageinfo-subpages-name and MediaWiki:pageinfo-redirects-name need PLURAL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48634 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [11:15:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to switch between VisualEditor and wikitext editor modes without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47779 +comment (10tm112) [11:17:17] 03(mod) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 +comment (10esanders) [11:17:33] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10nischayn22) [11:29:59] 03(mod) Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 +comment (10esanders) [11:33:34] 03(mod) Make the page title optionally translatable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34098 +comment (10Ho Tuan Kiet) [11:47:58] 03(mod) Allow adding message documentation when translation is restricted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47580 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:49:12] 03(mod) Allow adding message documentation when translation is restricted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47580 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:56:05] !wg AllowCategorizedRecentChanges [11:56:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowCategorizedRecentChanges [11:57:00] 03(mod) Left thumbnail overlaps list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48322 +comment (10thorsten.h) [11:58:46] 03(mod) Left thumbnail overlaps list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48322 +comment (10thorsten.h) [12:26:33] 03(NEW) Create parser function yielding adjectives for language names. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48635 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [12:36:19] 03(mod) Create parser function yielding adjectives for language names. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48635 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:36:47] 03(mod) Upload wizard doesn't understand all error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27305 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [12:41:51] 03(mod) Left thumbnail overlaps list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48322 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:41:52] 03(mod) ":" indent markup fails if paragraph is to the right of an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11782 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:42:21] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10jeanfrederic.wiki) [12:42:39] oh my god [12:42:54] 03(mod) List indicators overlap with left floating images/blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11782 summary (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [12:43:55] WTF! `realpath( '.' )` [12:44:01] $IP = realpath( '.' ); [12:44:58] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10jeanfrederic.wiki) [12:45:18] 03(mod) UploadWizard Flickr on Wikimedia Commons should use {{Flickr source}} and {{Flickr author}} templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43408 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [12:47:35] We're actually assuming that cwd is ALWAYS the directory of the script that was run. And that entrypoints will NEVER EVER be located somewhere other than $IP. [12:47:54] Nischayn22|Away: sorry about that, i showed the output to community and they were like: "wtf", but it was because my setup didn't have the flickruser: interwiki defined. [12:49:57] DanielFriesen: executing scripts directly from ./maintenance/ directory ;) [12:50:14] That's a little different. [12:50:36] I'm talking about web entrypoints. [12:52:31] DanielFriesen: but the entrypoints *are* located at $IP. [12:52:40] DanielFriesen: (except for the installer one) [12:52:43] Now... and ONLY in core. [12:53:00] there is no reason for anyone to add any entrypoints, really [12:53:07] and even less of a reason to add the outside $IP [12:53:36] (although obviously i have no idea what i'm talking about, and i haven't read the scrollback) [12:54:37] Sure there is... there's a narrow degree of rational reason that an extension could want to define it's own entrypoint. And it would be stupid to do it anywhere but the extension folder. Which is not $IP. [12:55:40] 03(mod) Provide shortcut "sql" or similar to connect to the correct database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48627 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:56:09] 03(mod) Echo broken icw Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47932 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [12:59:05] And the only reason we do something so stupid is to support includes being symlinked from some other location. [13:00:57] * biraj is away: কিছু কাজ করছি [13:03:14] hi guillom [13:03:21] hi sumanah [13:03:53] We should just fix core to properly support MW being used as a library. Where the place where core is in a different central location separate from where the config, etc... is setup. [13:04:12] Then ditch this symlink stupidity. [13:13:08] [refreshLinks.php]: # This entire code path is cut-and-pasted from below. Hurrah. [13:18:07] I have a problem in that when I use msgWiki or wfMessage->parse() edit links are always shown for headings [13:18:17] c.f. 1st comment of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/62623/2/Erudite.skin.php [13:18:35] can anybody help me figure out the best way to ensure this doesn't happen? [13:18:50] (it happens even when the user doesn't have edit permissions to that message...) [13:20:10] in the above code in Gerrit I just created a function that sets the ParserOptions appropriately, but hopefully there's a better way to do it [13:24:46] hey.. would anyone like to show me a website they have made with mediawiki ? [13:25:14] comon man Show me some tallent ;) [13:27:31] njw: MessageCache's parser options should already be set right. [13:28:28] sbs2k: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page [13:28:34] sbs2k: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki [13:37:20] ok, I just saw Star Trek Into Darkness [13:39:18] Nice. [13:39:35] do you think wikimedia can be used as an alternative to zendesk / [13:39:36] ? [13:39:59] I am trying about to redevelop an information systenm for :Sportkin [13:40:04] That makes no sense [13:40:17] Do you mean MediaWiki can be used as an alternative to Zendesk? [13:40:26] no [13:40:27] I mean [13:40:37] as a prefered info system [13:40:45] Wikimedia is a charity [13:40:48] Not a software project [13:40:58] ? [13:41:12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation [13:41:22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki [13:41:32] !wikipmediawiki [13:41:33] Confused about the differences between MediaWiki, Wikimedia, Wikipedia and wiki? See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipmediawiki [13:41:55] lolol [13:42:13] yes i know wikipedia is huge [13:42:18] so what are you saying ? [13:42:25] now you're introducing a third term [13:42:28] DanielFriesen: I thought so, but at least when called from a skin they don't seem to be [13:42:29] You're getting things confused [13:42:36] * multichill is getting out the popcorn [13:42:44] :) [13:42:44] Wikipedia is not Wikimedia and is not MediaWiki [13:42:50] sure [13:42:51] I know this [13:42:59] but wikipedia is based on wikimedia platform [13:43:01] DanielFriesen: any advice on how to hunt down the problem? [13:43:01] Well use the correct terms then [13:43:02] right ? [13:43:03] No it's not [13:43:06] oh [13:43:08] ok :) [13:43:13] thanks for clarifying this. [13:43:14] WIKIPEDIA uses MEDIAWIKI [13:43:21] !wikipmediawiki | sbs2k [13:43:21] sbs2k: Confused about the differences between MediaWiki, Wikimedia, Wikipedia and wiki? See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipmediawiki [13:43:23] WIKIPEDIA is run by WIKIMEDIA [13:43:25] OK, not wikimedia [13:43:27] Wikipedia uses the MediaWiki software, and is one of the projects run by Wikimedia [13:43:35] WIKIMEDIA fund some MEDIAWIKI development [13:43:44] ok [13:44:05] sbs2k: We try to make things as confusing as possible with our naming [13:44:14] Keeps people on their toes [13:44:18] ok [13:44:37] so is there a big difference between wikimedia and mediawiki ? [13:44:37] MatmaRex: Nice page, we should probably add some logo's to it.... [13:44:52] and get them wrong [13:45:15] sbs2k: wikimedia is a non profit organization [13:45:17] sbs2k: Wikimedia is a non-profit organization. MediaWiki is software. [13:45:21] sbs2k: mediawiki is a PHP software [13:45:25] !mediawiki [13:45:25] MediaWiki is a free software wiki package originally written for Wikipedia. It is now used by several other projects of the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation and by many other wikis. You can find out more about it at http://www.mediawiki.org [13:45:26] !wikimedia [13:45:26] MediaWiki not Wikimedia; Wikimedia is the foundation, MediaWiki is the software. See !mediawiki and !wmf [13:45:33] !wmf [13:45:33] the Wikimedia Foundation runs the servers which host Wikipedia and other projects; and is the driving force behind the development of MediaWiki [13:45:33] !wikipedia [13:45:34] A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipe [13:45:37] lol guys [13:45:39] oh man [13:45:44] lol Reedy [13:45:45] Hahaha [13:45:49] Wikipedia is a project run by Wikimdia using MediaWiki [13:45:50] the hell is that message [13:45:53] !wikipedia del [13:45:53] Successfully removed wikipedia [13:46:00] !wikipedia is A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipe [13:46:00] Key was added [13:46:04] [[WP:MMORPG]], I guess [13:46:13] MatmaRex: Oi! Don't delete those [13:46:16] MatmaRex: let the easter eggs in :-) [13:46:18] D: [13:46:23] there's enough easter eggs [13:46:25] like !blame [13:46:29] or !2.0 [13:46:37] and this is just unhelpful and hardly funny [13:46:57] in your opinion :D [13:47:20] D: [13:47:24] :D: [13:47:31] !2.0 [13:47:31] Not gonna happen in your lifetime :) In the meantime, here's a wishlist: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:2.0 [13:47:35] :-( [13:47:58] Hi Reedy do many people use mediawiki as a technical manual [13:47:59] ? [13:48:17] You know what version comes after 1.9? 1.10 ;-) [13:48:18] So mind you, the parser tests do 3014: SELECT /* DatabaseBase::selectField 127.0.0.1 */ 1 FROM unittest_image WHERE img_name = 'X' LIMIT 1 [13:48:18] or as a help desk resource guyde ? [13:48:19] :( [13:48:19] Yes [13:48:30] It's quite well used for that sort of project [13:48:34] multichill: ;) [13:48:37] Great [13:48:49] multichill: as a physicist, I am annoyed by 1.9 + 0.1 = 1.10 ;-) [13:49:11] Can you show me an example of a website using it for their technical resource guide ? [13:49:26] Reedy: parser tests are down to 1m16s on Jenkins :-D https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64574/ [13:49:32] I use that in projects for version management for designs, as long as it is 0.8, 0.9, 0.10 it isn't production yet. The first production version will be 1.0 [13:50:40] !semver [13:50:43] nuffin'? [13:50:54] Having version numbers that mean something is so web 1.0. Web 2.0 just +1's the version every month, irrespective of changes. [13:51:07] 1.9 -> 1.10 is perfectly logical... especially when you don't deceptively hide the .0, etc... [13:51:09] valhallasw: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:VersionNumbers.svg [13:51:10] http://semver.org/ ~ [13:51:28] Bit like that [13:51:33] sbs2k: Maybe http://brlcad.org/wiki/ ? [13:51:37] multichill: I know how version numbering works ;-) [13:52:00] Rewrite is our version 2.xxx..... [13:52:01] Oracle, on the other hand... [13:52:07] Probably not the best example, though [13:52:09] we could do MediaWiki 2013Q2 [13:52:13] or 13.02 [13:52:19] I've just developed a system for the information resource : http://support.sportkin.com/ [13:52:21] But [13:52:23] just like ubuntu / juniper and others [13:52:31] I am not sure whether it will go the hard yard [13:52:37] hashar: Was about to mention that [13:52:41] Any idiot who thinks that 1.9 should become 2.0 just because it happens to look like the formatting of decimal numbers in some languages should skip the dot from the start and just use 19 and 20. [13:52:48] hashar: like the FIFA games! [13:52:49] I hate Cisco version numbering, it's insane [13:52:50] because sportkin has an anticipated strong growth when the marketing begins [13:53:05] So I wanted to consider an aleternative. [13:53:21] and funny enough i stumbled upon this chanel [13:53:21] :) [13:53:26] but for now we are sticking to 1.minor.fix [13:54:13] DanielFriesen: The idiot who chose to use a widely used number formatting to denote something that is not a number should not have used that number formatting in the first place ;-) [13:54:47] valhallasw: IP numbers too? :P [13:54:55] heh [13:55:07] does mediawiki use a db engine ? [13:55:09] Formatting of things overlap.... deal with it. [13:55:11] ie.. sql ? [13:55:31] yes [13:55:50] * MatmaRex lols at the *beat* here [13:55:56] MatmaRex: that's basically a thousands separator, but then doing completely confusing base transformations, yes [13:56:28] MatmaRex: Maybe we should start versioning in hex [13:56:56] That'll clear things right up [13:57:09] '(1 22 0) [13:57:18] ;) if I got my Lisp right.. [13:57:27] DanielFriesen: now /that/ is a notation that makes sense ;-) [13:57:57] ok [13:58:12] I found a system which doesn;t use a DB engine [13:58:23] this would have a faster page load [13:59:30] sbs2k: use nosql [13:59:38] it's web scale [13:59:40] sbs2k: ;) sure, perhaps for a really low traffic website, for a little while [14:01:20] SO sql is better for high traffic websites ? [14:03:44] But then things will slow down as you hammer the filesystem more and more. You'll decide that once your site grows you want to load balance servers. But you can't do that with a file backed wiki. So you'll introduce a network filesystem and now your wiki will perform no better than a site using a database. And to top it off updates aren't atomic, you can't lock over network filesystems, etc... so it won't be very good for high edit traffic. [14:03:59] i have a WikiRevision but need a Revision, and I cannot figure out how to get the latter from the former (or actually, why they do not share an interface in the first place) [14:04:27] Denny_WMDE: What's a WikiRevision? [14:04:45] https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classWikiRevision.html [14:04:56] Denny_WMDE: you need a Revision? why? [14:05:13] DanielK_WMDE: because your interface wants one :) [14:05:14] Oh pft, Importer [14:05:28] What a stupid way to name that class. [14:05:34] agreed [14:05:35] Denny_WMDE: and: it's pussible but not easy, and the distinction is silly. mostly owed to the fact that Revision isn't just a value object, as it perhaps should be [14:05:51] Denny_WMDE: ha! [14:05:56] Denny_WMDE: easier to fix my interface [14:05:59] btw Sportkin is alsp not for profit [14:06:02] well, i could just drop the Revision thing from the interface [14:06:07] it works beautifully then [14:06:08] As you can see there is no advertising on sportkin [14:06:10] and never will be [14:06:11] but that sucks too [14:06:31] and i'll never ask for a donation either [14:07:29] good. [14:07:47] my experience tells me lots of donations are actually wasted. [14:08:10] not-for-profit != will never accept money [14:08:34] I'll have an answer from my partner soon about the new support system, if we use mediawiki, then you can expect a big donation if we become big.. and you'll see alot more of me in this chanel. [14:08:39] i don't agree daniel [14:08:48] the founder of wikipedia asks for money [14:08:55] to keep his infrastructure up and running [14:08:57] right ? [14:09:04] not exactly. [14:09:36] Denny_WMDE: would be nice to have a common way to pass the revision id and timestamp to the serializer [14:09:52] OK.. btw.. is there anyway i can add a link to sportkin on wikipedia ? [14:10:07] sbs2k: you should probably go to #wikipedia to talk about Wikipedia [14:10:07] I mean without it begin removed by a modeator ? [14:10:25] sbs2k: folks in this room just want to talk about the software. [14:10:31] brilliant [14:10:32] thanks [14:11:45] sbs2k: You're pretty much proving my point. Wikimedia asks for money. `not-for-profit != will never accept money` [14:11:58] Accepting money and making a profit are two different things. [14:16:20] a boy may ask his dad for money often, but he still does not necessarily make a profit [14:17:03] Denny_WMDE: hey I get to see you this week! [14:17:31] * biraj is away: কিছু কাজ করছি [14:17:31] sumanah: i am sorry, but i am afraid you won't - i won't be in amsterdam [14:17:47] Denny_WMDE: I get to .... see you in a more virtual sense? [14:17:49] never mind [14:17:59] biraj: please turn that off [14:18:11] yeh, virtual works :) [14:18:21] Pft, $wgPhpCli isn't even set on install like the comment says it should be. [14:18:21] :) [14:36:53] 03(NEW) Database error at undeletion (race condition?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48636 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [14:39:13] 03(NEW) nomobile elements don't get stripped in mobile when they have other classes too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48637 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [14:42:47] 03(mod) co-ment-like tool for inline comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46440 +comment (10jforrester) [14:50:41] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10umar.dagirov) [14:57:15] 03(mod) Undefined offset in ByPropertyIdArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48497 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:58:44] 03(NEW) Stable version of module looks broken (FlaggedRevs and Scribunto) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48638 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; () [15:01:56] 03(mod) Fonts in IE6/7 too big when scaling font size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24515 (10entlinkt) [15:06:12] morning folks [15:07:47] Just thought I'd drop in and let you knows I finally finished off my skin for our communities wiki: http://wiki.laravel.io [15:07:53] Was a battle. But I got there. :) [15:08:19] And cheers to those that helped the last few days. Appreciate it. [15:08:19] Looks nice, JasonLewis [15:08:59] Thanks GorillaWarfare [15:11:39] 03(mod) Database error at undeletion (race condition?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48636 +comment (10maarten) [15:17:53] 03(NEW) msgWiki(), wfMessage()->parse() and related functions should not show edit links if user lacks permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48639 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; () [15:18:35] JasonLewis: hey, are you gonna write up a case study? [15:18:38] !lists | JasonLewis [15:18:38] JasonLewis: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [15:18:49] JasonLewis: the mediawiki-l people might like a few paragraphs about what you did & how [15:19:56] sumanah: yeah I can. what would be the prefered list? mediawiki-l? [15:20:04] yeah [15:20:11] 03(mod) Non-printable characters on enhanced recent changes account creation logs before semi-colons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48629 summary (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [15:20:17] 03(mod) Undefined offset in ByPropertyIdArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48497 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:20:28] JasonLewis: wow, nice ! [15:20:48] JasonLewis: hey, that's pretty slick [15:20:50] sumanah: cool, no worries. i'll draft something up. :) [15:20:54] cheers guys! [15:20:56] JasonLewis: i see you went with the JS solution after all [15:21:09] MatmaRex_: yeah I did, much less screwing around. [15:21:12] JasonLewis: (for the toc) [15:21:34] this could be done with CSS, too, but you'd have to reserve the "space" for toc even on pages that don't have it [15:21:59] i've just modded 1.20.5 to permit all lowercase usernames, to do this i've removed NS_USER from the $alwaysCapitalizedNamespaces array in Namespace.php and i've removed calls to $wgContLang->ucfirst( $name ) in User.php. i've created a user and it seems to have worked as i'd expect -- is there anything i might be overlooking that could cause problems in future? [15:22:24] route: try banning the user, for example? viewing his contribs? [15:22:41] JasonLewis: lol http://wiki.laravel.io/index.php?title=Laracon&printable=yes the toc even works there.... [15:23:21] route: i'm trying to see if there's a reasoning for this anywhere [15:24:21] thedj: that's one thing I haven't looked at, printable! [15:24:36] route: hmm... it was added to the array in r60063, with a comment: [15:24:41] "Add NS_USER to MWNamespace::$alwaysCapitalizedNamespaces, as suggested by Happy-melon on CR r57558. Untested, but should be beneficial, allowing easier linking to users on wikis with $wgCapitalLinks=false. But redirects from invalid names to valid names, e.g. [[User:tim]] -> [[User:Tim]] will become inaccessible. r57558 itself suffers similar problems, inaccessible pages should really be cleaned up with a maintenance script." [15:24:44] MatmaRex_: yes, both of those worked. [15:24:46] !r 60063 [15:24:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/60063 [15:25:37] route: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/58401 [15:25:48] route: "Lowercase logins causes MediaWiki to crash" [15:25:54] this was in 2009, though [15:26:23] i this the user namespace was disallowed just in case [15:26:37] 03(mod) Elements don't get stripped in mobile when they have other classes too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48637 summary; +comment (10Max Semenik) [15:26:40] route: if you're willing to be a guinea pig, it certainly would be nice to see if it works now ;) [15:26:57] route: you could submit your patch to gerrit, or on bugzilla [15:28:50] MatmaRex_: well, my patch just forgoes the sanity test that mediawiki feels necessary when creating user accounts. looking around, it seems like quite a common tweak that people do. [15:29:37] like i said, it appears to be working fine for me, but this is a fresh install. i wouldn't fancy trying it on a heavily used wiki :) [15:30:05] route: can you post it somewhere anyway? just for reference? :) [15:31:28] MatmaRex_: http://pastebin.com/1C1iTbpU [15:36:34] route: thanks, i'll file a bug and link it here in a minute [15:43:07] route: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48640 [15:43:45] 03(NEW) Permit all lowercase usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48640 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [15:47:07] Hello all :) [15:47:19] Hi Florian__ [15:47:40] i don't know if my question is here right or better in dev channel :) [15:48:11] I want to add a ad-banner next to the toc in media wiki custom skin [15:48:25] but i haven't found any solution for that?! [15:48:45] Florian__: "wikimedia-dev" is meant to sort of be for Wikimedia-specific developer discussion and this channel is for general MediaWiki stuff, but in practice there is a lot of cross-talk :) [15:48:48] !skinning [15:48:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning/Tutorial and the historical archive [15:49:39] yes, this i have all read ;) But there is not solution how to add a custom div-container next to the toc, and only if a toc is shown... [15:49:53] Florian__: would a javascript-based solution be satisfying? [15:49:59] because it'd be much simpler this way [15:51:03] hmm, yes, maybe, i haven't thought about it. Another solution is more difficult as useful?! [15:52:00] Florian__: in JS, simply add this to your MediaWiki:.js file (where skinname is your skin's name, of course): [15:52:21] $('#toc').before('any html goes here') [15:53:02] Florian__: and not in JS... it gets really ugly really quickly [15:53:13] as the toc is not really part of the skin, but part of the content [15:53:28] and there's basically no sane to modify the content [15:54:13] yes, this problem, that the content is not editable via skin is the problem. Thanks for your solution, i will test it and i think its the right way :) [15:56:20] I've seen people doing regexp replaces to the HTML output, to add contents before some elements :P [15:56:59] Vulpix: well yeah, that's possibly [15:57:01] possible* [15:57:16] it's also going to break horribly if the HTML ever changes [15:57:41] so sure, you can do it, but i won't be debugging that for you :P [15:57:49] Doing it for the luls [15:58:36] Reedy: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/64565/ [15:58:58] i removed thirteen lines of code and modified one word in another. review pls? [15:59:28] -1 [15:59:50] bah [15:59:50] Release notes for 1.21: "Added new backend to represent and store information about sites and site specific configuration." <-- what is that all about? [15:59:52] damned messages [15:59:56] on it. [16:00:21] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs stable=1 does not use ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48638 summary; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:00:28] Lcawte: Something JeroenDeDauw/wikidata added [16:01:03] Reedy: jenkins should be doing that, really. :/ [16:01:29] Reedy: done [16:04:22] That'd be regex fun [16:11:39] 03(mod) Fonts in IE6/7 too big when scaling font size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24515 +comment (10jrobson) [16:21:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 summary (10Ed Sanders) [16:22:00] 03(mod) Throwing an exception in User::setPassword() will expose the password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30714 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:22:11] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs stable version does not use ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48638 summary; +comment (10Umherirrender) [16:26:00] 03(NEW) SpecialWatchlist should extend SpecialRecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48641 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; () [16:26:29] Reedy: what'cha think? doable? ^ [16:26:43] Can't see why not [16:26:51] It's a very good model for OOPs [16:26:51] 03(NEW) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 major; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [16:26:54] 03(mod) SpecialWatchlist should extend SpecialRecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48641 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:26:55] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:27:17] i just can't understand why nobody did it in ten years [16:27:29] i mean, it will be boring [16:27:30] Do you know how our special pages looked a couple of years ago? [16:27:46] Reedy: not really, but i checked out how they looked in 2003 [16:27:50] lol [16:27:55] global functions and stuff [16:27:58] very wordpressy [16:28:01] i was trying to hunt down when watchlist and recentchanges diverged [16:28:08] turns out they diverged in the initial commit alreayd [16:28:35] i blame brion for letting that happen. :P [16:28:46] Are you going to be in Amsterdam? [16:28:54] We could bully him into fixing it ;) [16:28:54] yep [16:29:00] fix it [16:29:02] FIXIT [16:29:06] FIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXIT [16:29:12] right now it looks like i won't have to sleep there [16:29:25] i think you're the third person to ask me if i'm going to be there [16:29:34] FUXITFUXITFUXIT [16:29:37] won't have time to* [16:30:03] Reedy: i'll assign the bug to him. :P [16:30:57] i'm going to be distracting brion with 3D ness [16:31:00] 03(mod) SpecialWatchlist should extend SpecialRecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48641 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [16:31:13] * MatmaRex_ walks away whistling [16:32:36] 03(NEW) Provide DNS aliases for replicated databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48643 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [16:35:50] 03(NEW) jstart isn't a symlink in the repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48644 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [16:36:01] 03(NEW) MediaWiki:Visualeditor-feedback-link doesn't use wiki language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48645 minor; VisualEditor: General; () [16:40:07] 03(mod) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [16:44:13] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Visualeditor-feedback-link doesn't use wiki language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48645 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:44:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Message should be used in content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47730 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:44:51] is it possible to query api.php for a section specifically, given only the sections title? [16:44:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 (10James Forrester) [16:46:56] having a problem where our wiki loads without CSS. Using the developer console in chrome, it complains that the print CSS isn't loading (URL https://wiki.website/wiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cskins.monobook&only=styles&skin=monobook&*) [16:47:44] turned on the debug log file has a bunch of lines that read "SpecialPage::getContext called and $mContext is null. Return RequestContext::getMain(); for sanity" [16:49:11] paulk_: what does the file contain? or is it a 404? or what? [16:49:21] the debug log entries don't seem too unusual [16:49:26] 03(mod) CodeEditor and the experimental "live preview" preference are not compatible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47235 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:49:59] 03(NEW) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 major; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [16:50:49] MatmaRex_ looks like it's an unexpected 0byte file. [16:51:38] 03(mod) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10Andyrom75) [16:51:42] yeah, it sends text/css,*/*;q=0.1 in the accept headers, but no contents [16:52:16] hm. [16:52:21] (sorry, i have no idea what might be wrong.) [16:52:49] snkcld: nope, you can only get sections by it's section number [16:53:37] paulk_: what do you see if you open that URL directly? a plain blank page? [16:54:25] Vulpix: firefox says "connection was reset", chrome says "no data received. [16:55:05] just checked the global apache error log, and it generates segfault errors everytime I try to load a wiki page, so that's clearly related [16:55:25] yeah, those segfaults are the problem [16:55:29] ;) [16:55:49] this is why you don't run gentoo on production servers, folks! I could shoot the former admin ;) [16:56:15] they shouldn't happen. If an error occurs in PHP, a HTTP 500 response should be given instead of blowing up the entire apache [16:57:20] Vulpix: yeah, it's probably a library issue. I'll try some gentoo related stuff (revdep-rebuild and similar). We haven't upgraded apache in quite a while, but it apache was restarted just before it started doing this [16:57:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Implement TemplateData extension and get it deployed for the Template Inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44444 +comment (10MZMcBride) [16:58:08] 03(NEW) In batch uploads, frequent "Internal error: Could not determine if the copy succeeded" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48647 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [17:00:40] Vulpix, section number being the index into the page right [17:02:16] 03(NEW) Can't expand code in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48648 major; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [17:02:20] snkcld: yes, what you get in the edit section (action=edit§ion=3 for example) [17:02:26] *edit section link [17:02:43] 03(mod) Can't expand code in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48648 (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [17:06:46] 03(mod) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 (10Rob Lanphier) [17:08:09] Oldest deprecations still in core...... 1.17 [17:10:15] DELETE [17:11:07] DanielFriesen: false [17:11:13] 03(mod) ApiUpload.php -- Async chunked upload fails when chunk is of file size but file is stashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48294 +comment (10bjorsch) [17:11:15] DanielFriesen: unless you mean wfDeprecated() ones [17:11:20] MatmaRex_: Yes [17:11:25] some hooks date back to 1.5, i think ;) [17:11:48] Deprecations? [17:11:59] deprecations are the enemies of the autobots [17:12:13] oh look, brion. hi. [17:12:31] brion: i assigned a bug to you. hope you like it. [17:12:56] brion: if you don't, you can still redeem yourself by doing related code review. :D [17:13:04] (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48641) [17:13:21] whee [17:17:36] 03(mod) mw.LoadData results don't properly handle # operator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47096 +comment (10bjorsch) [17:20:10] 03(NEW) Avatars broken (404) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48649 minor; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [17:21:39] 03(mod) Can't expand code in Gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48648 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [17:21:42] 03(mod) "Expand 10 before" and "Expand 10 after" broken on some pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38144 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [17:22:24] 03(mod) Provide a method to create a non read-only copy of a mw.loadData result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47104 +comment (10bjorsch) [17:22:31] 03(NEW) JavaScript Off: Fieldset legends broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48650 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [17:35:12] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Mwe-upwiz-license-custom-url provides a broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48624 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [17:36:28] hmm [17:39:06] 03(mod) Modern/Monobook skin show an empty
  • bullet as last item under "In other languages" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47552 (10koala19890) [17:39:49] 03(mod) jstart isn't a symlink in the repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48644 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:41:17] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10sam) [17:44:01] 03(mod) Non existent user subpages should return 404 (again) instead of 200 response - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46491 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [17:51:16] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Provide clean way to clone a linmod slice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48651 normal; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; () [17:52:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide clean way to clone a linmod slice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48651 (10James Forrester) [17:53:43] 03(NEW) WikiEditor Templates adds extra space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48652 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; () [17:57:01] 03(mod) Create test poll on test.wikipedia.org for 2013 Board elections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48330 +comment (10sam) [18:02:58] 03(mod) #tag cannot produce XHTML-style self-closing tags, required by LST - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37256 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [18:14:35] Heh CoreParserFunctions::displaytitle is out of date with it's tag list. [18:18:03] 03(mod) Wizard to add subtitles doesn't escape title correctly, leads to error "no video associated" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48300 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:29:52] hi i have a private wiki on my comp [18:30:03] how can i get links to be case insesitive [18:30:12] the book and The Book don't link to the same place [18:30:27] but i want them to without having to make a redirect [18:31:29] !wg CapitalLinks | Gmac_ [18:31:29] Gmac_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinks [18:31:49] ah, wait, no [18:31:51] sorry, i misread [18:32:00] i'm afraid that's not possible right now :( [18:32:08] oh poo [18:32:11] oh well [18:32:16] well then i have a ;sat quesiton [18:32:22] i turned on live preview [18:32:28] but i don't get a live preview as i type [18:32:36] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47749 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:32:36] was i suppose to? [18:33:00] Gmac_: the preferences option? no, it's 'live' in the sense of not reloading the entire page [18:33:06] Gmac_: you still have to click the 'Preview' button [18:33:13] aha [18:33:25] i thought it would be like markdown [18:33:36] ok [18:33:40] well thats all for now [18:33:42] thanks [18:34:14] 03(mod) Enable LiquidThreads extension on all talkpages in pt.wikibooks.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48578 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:34:55] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:37:02] 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:37:28] 03(NEW) [New version] CAPTCHA not being repositioned after 1.22wmf4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48653 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [18:37:47] 03(mod) [New version] CAPTCHA not being repositioned after 1.22wmf4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48653 (10Steven Walling) [18:40:18] 03(mod) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10swalling) [18:45:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Implement TemplateData extension and get it deployed for the Template Inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44444 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:46:12] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:50:02] 03(mod) Mobile page is "too wide" and can't scroll horizontally in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46726 +comment (10Jon) [18:51:30] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on all content namespaces on mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48430 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:51:44] Anyone know if you can have an extension under the http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause in a WMF repo? [18:54:03] JeroenDeDauw: my guess would be that any free license would be okay. you should probably ask ^demon [18:58:23] He's on holiday this week [18:58:25] 03(mod) SpecialWatchlist should extend SpecialRecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48641 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:58:27] 03(mod) Options form at the top of Special:Watchlist needs cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48615 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:58:44] greg-g would likely be a better candidate to ask (but he'sa at a conference today) [18:58:45] 03(mod) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10andyrom75) [19:01:19] 03(mod) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [19:04:44] 03(NEW) Unwanted categories reapear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [19:05:31] 03(mod) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 (10Niklas Laxström) [19:06:04] 03(mod) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [19:07:24] 03(mod) XSS vulnerability in 404 error page in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48380 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:07:30] 03(mod) on beta: login impossible for user names with underscore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 +comment (10swalling) [19:17:25] 03(mod) [New version] CAPTCHA not being repositioned after 1.22wmf4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48653 +comment (10Steven Walling) [19:18:52] Vulpix & MatmaRex: if you were wondering, my segfault/no css issue seems to be related to the apache SVN module. So... not a wiki issue, but it only causes the segfault on the wiki (grr). Anyway, fixing the SVN stuff should fix the wiki stuff [19:19:11] great! [19:21:35] 03(mod) Excess white space between the bottom of the captcha image and refresh link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47699 (10spage) [19:22:43] 03(NEW) LQT: Deletion of thread failed with MWException: "Post has contaminated reply" in Thread.php::checkReplies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48655 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; () [19:23:01] 03(mod) Countable content namespaces evaluation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40423 +comment (10ezachte) [19:23:09] contamined reply... [19:23:35] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Check for and warn user on badtoken events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48656 enhancement; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [19:23:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Check for and warn user on badtoken events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48656 (10James Forrester) [19:24:58] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47749 +comment (10paul.kaganer) [19:25:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Check for and warn user on unexpected badtoken event says they're now logged out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48656 summary (10James Forrester) [19:28:32] 03(mod) during normal use of the site (read/write) the system force the log out of the users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10andyrom75) [19:30:42] 03(NEW) Warn user that they're now logged out when they originally weren't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48657 enhancement; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [19:31:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Check for and warn user on unexpected badtoken event says they're now logged out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48656 +comment (10jforrester) [19:34:17] 03(mod) #tag cannot produce XHTML-style self-closing tags, required by LST - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37256 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [19:36:33] 03(mod) Score extension should auto-categorize pages containing invalid input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47351 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:39:59] 03(mod) LQT: Deletion of thread failed with MWException: "Post has contaminated reply" in Thread.php::checkReplies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48655 +comment (10krinklemail) [19:40:12] 03(NEW) Enable section-editing on 'beta' profile of VisualEditor deployments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48658 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [19:40:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:41:27] 03(mod) Categorize {{#babel}} on udm.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47749 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [19:41:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Green striped area doesn't align properly in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48432 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [19:42:00] 03(mod) Enable LiquidThreads extension on all talkpages in pt.wikibooks.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48578 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [19:44:05] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [19:44:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image in template gets cut off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48461 (10James Forrester) [19:44:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:45:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Heading on a slug is created on the wrong line in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48464 (10James Forrester) [19:45:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:45:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn appears when creating new list item in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48468 (10James Forrester) [19:45:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:45:52] MatmaRex_: ping [19:46:28] https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=LocalSettings.php [19:46:33] is this a security issue? [19:46:51] is it? [19:47:40] Krinkle: pong [19:47:46] Hi RingtailedFox, it isn't... it's an easter egg.. [19:47:49] MatmaRex_: -dev [19:48:11] * Reedy looks for the chocolate [19:48:40] oh [19:48:47] well, i just wanted to be sure [19:48:56] RingtailedFox: I appreciate it :) [19:49:18] ever since the sony debacle, i've been on the lookout for these types of things [19:49:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing Enter in a heading at the beginning breaks in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48526 (10James Forrester) [19:49:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:50:48] 03(mod) Enable Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48620 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [19:50:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image resize handles persist on close - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48530 normal->minor (10James Forrester) [19:50:56] 03(mod) Enable LiquidThreads extension on all talkpages in pt.wikibooks.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48578 +comment (10raylton.sousa) [19:51:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking link button while link inspector is already open throws error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48549 (10James Forrester) [19:51:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:51:42] RingtailedFox, uh yeah in future if you see stuff like this, best ask in private [19:51:49] but that's not a security problem no [19:52:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't move to last item in category dialog suggester box with cursors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48565 (10James Forrester) [19:52:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:52:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630 (10James Forrester) [19:52:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:52:51] sorry [19:52:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Empty annotations are dropped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48605 (10James Forrester) [19:52:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:53:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting and copying one node throws an exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48604 (10James Forrester) [19:53:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:53:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Cursor should move to end of inserted contents after paste - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48603 (10James Forrester) [19:53:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426 (10James Forrester) [19:54:03] Uhm...Is this normal? [19:55:04] hell, the scariest one i ever saw was someone actually posting the login credentials for the Oak Ridge Nuclear Power Generation Facility on Rizon IRC... yes, i did email the Oak Ridge people and they did change it and thanked me for it... [19:55:07] Does seem to be a lot of James_F spam today [19:55:48] RAN1: Looks like he's getting ready to organize the final sprint to Beta for VE, that's all [19:55:56] Ah, cool. [19:56:17] He BZspams us all the time [19:56:27] It's his job :) [19:56:40] And totally ignores the "Component" field in Bugzilla [19:56:48] Le sigh. [19:59:50] So, more of that to come, huh?