[00:03:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) XFF ranges need updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48791  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[00:03:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[00:07:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) XFF ranges needs updating with Opera range - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48791  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:58:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626  +comment (10tim)
[03:48:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Accessing specific page via index.php results in HTTP 501 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48749  (10yoplitein)
[03:52:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unwanted categories reappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654  +comment (10nischayn22)
[03:55:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image resize handles persist on close - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48530  +comment (10James Forrester)
[04:16:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable Universal Language Selector at Bangla (bn) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48790  summary (10Belayet Hossain)
[04:26:47] <RAN1>	 Hmm, does anybody here know why the Title::escapeFooURL methods were deprecated in 1.19?
[04:31:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unwanted categories reappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[04:32:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unwanted categories reappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654  (10Nischay Nahata)
[04:37:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; ()
[04:44:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Change name of LocalSettings.php to settings.php or WikiSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48801 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[04:52:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change name of LocalSettings.php to settings.php or WikiSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48801  +comment (10b)
[04:57:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <references/> list item must not wrap the text in <span> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47544  +comment (10rohan.j.verma)
[06:15:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF generation does not support Complex Script Wikis (e.g. Indic languages) and needs to be re-written - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28206  +comment (10nani1only)
[06:19:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10Nemo)
[07:01:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) {{#language:}} is outdated, add more ISO 639-3 codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31261  +comment (10Nemo)
[07:15:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add way to transclude template or other page in the correct language, e.g. with Special:MyLanguage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45096  +comment (10Nemo)
[07:15:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Language validation] Implement Language::isKnownLanguageTag() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41476  (10Nemo)
[07:37:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) There's an inconsistency in the feedback page view and the permalink view; it looks like the feedback page view is not up-to-date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46797  +comment (10mmullie)
[07:46:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626  +comment (10liangent)
[07:55:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Refactor blocks into separate metrics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48660  +comment (10okeyes)
[08:09:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Recognise wikidata {{#property:…}} parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48781  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[08:11:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  +comment (10gwicke)
[08:12:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <references/> list item must not wrap the text in <span> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47544  +comment (10mr.heat)
[08:16:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Recognise wikidata {{#property:…}} parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48781  (10ssastry)
[08:22:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unwanted categories reappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654  (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[08:25:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unwanted categories reappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48654  +comment (10hartman.wiki)
[08:30:12] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: sorry, power issues + I dozed off
[08:30:14] <YuviPanda>	 and got too drunk
[08:38:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change the default value for the concurrent uploads limit to be named "default" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48280  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[08:38:34] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: same happened here for some people
[08:43:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Make {{DEFAULTSORT}} editable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46470  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:43:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <references/> list item must not wrap the text in <span> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47544  +comment (10mr.heat)
[08:46:22] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: hehe :)
[08:46:31] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: I saw you committed a WIP patch
[08:46:32] <YuviPanda>	 so \o/
[08:46:46] <YuviPanda>	 also there was problems with power in AMS?
[08:46:47] <YuviPanda>	 tch tch
[08:46:54] <Nikerabbit>	 what problems?
[08:46:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  (10ssastry)
[08:47:01] <Nikerabbit>	 I didn't encounter any
[08:47:09] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: would you be able to finish the wip?
[08:47:26] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: I am just looking at it
[08:48:54] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: I suppose protected function unflattenPlural( $key, $message ) { needs to be completed?
[08:53:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) There's an inconsistency in the feedback page view and the permalink view; it looks like the feedback page view is not up-to-date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46797  +comment (10TMg)
[08:53:58] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: yeah and few other things
[08:54:27] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, i've to go offline again starting tuesday. 
[08:54:39] <YuviPanda>	 and it'll be much faster for you to finish it since you already know what to do
[08:54:40] <YuviPanda>	 please?
[08:54:47] * YuviPanda  does puppy dog eyes

[08:55:30] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: it wont take three days for you ;)
[08:55:57] <YuviPanda>	 but it'll still take much less time for you! And I want to finish the Github -> Gerrit thing
[08:55:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=extensions should print extension last commit information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48418  (10Matt Walker)
[08:56:01] <YuviPanda>	 pleeeaaasseeee
[08:56:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Tunisia to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48448  +comment (10Effeietsanders)
[08:58:41] <parent5446>	 Need an opinion for auto cat redirs. If a category is redirected, should the category links at the bottom of the page should the real category, or the redirect target?
[08:59:33] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: maybe
[09:00:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) add link to corresponding item to action=info of article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47726  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:04:08] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: for some reason I have this intense urge to respond to 'maybe' with 'what'
[09:05:07] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: it happens
[09:05:31] <YuviPanda>	 maybe
[09:08:17] <Nemo_bis>	 YuviPanda: you should answer maybe with thanks
[09:08:24] <YuviPanda>	 ?
[09:08:51] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: the response to what is maybe and the response to maybe is what. hence cycles.
[09:08:53] <YuviPanda>	 err
[09:08:54] <YuviPanda>	 i mean
[09:08:55] <YuviPanda>	 Nemo_bis: 
[09:08:59] <YuviPanda>	 also we are all 6 years old :D
[09:09:15] <Nemo_bis>	 we would reach legal age together
[09:09:16] <Nemo_bis>	 not bad
[09:10:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [TUX] Browser support matrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45602  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:10:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [TUX] Text in tooltip of group selector is not parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47446  (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:10:19] * Nemo_bis  awes @mysterious hostname

[09:11:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=extensions should print extension last commit information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48418  +comment (10Matt Walker)
[09:11:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [TUX] No details provided for message check failures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47923  (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:13:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [TUX] [IE10] X in filter field is duplicated when text is entered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47038  (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:22:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update Ruby to 2.0.0-p195 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48580  (10Željko Filipin)
[09:22:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing Print/export section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48225  (10Željko Filipin)
[09:22:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[09:28:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) formatNum output should be escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48802 minor; MediaWiki: Internationalization; ()
[09:30:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) formatNum output should be escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48802  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:30:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) formatNum output should be escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48802  (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:35:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Can't add lyrics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48803 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Score; ()
[09:38:00] <Qcoder00>	 Hi
[09:38:20] <Qcoder00>	 is there a way to get templates subst that only places the 'generated' markup ?
[09:38:46] <Qcoder00>	 I used subst:   but this put the WHOLE of the template code (it uses a switch) whcih was not that which was required
[09:39:22] <DanielFriesen>	 Qcoder00: Use an includeonly subst: or safesubst: on the switch.
[09:39:33] <Qcoder00>	 Thanks
[09:39:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Can't add lyrics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48803  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[09:39:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Using \addlyrics creates error: "ERROR: In procedure delete-file: ERROR: No such file or directory" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48779  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[09:40:21] <Qcoder00>	 The Template I am wanting to use needs to be subst as the page it's used on subsquently transcludes IN a number of locations and thus hits the inclusion limit!
[09:40:46] <Qcoder00>	 DanielFiresen: Safesubst: only put in generated code?
[09:40:57] <Qcoder00>	 I don't want to place junk on the page... 
[09:41:59] <DanielFriesen>	 Qcoder00: safesubst: is just a subst: that doesn't subst when the template is being transcluded and not substed.
[09:42:38] <Qcoder00>	 OK
[09:42:46] <Qcoder00>	 I've tested both ideas...
[09:43:16] <Qcoder00>	 Both subst and safesubst include the entirity of the template code...
[09:43:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow adding message documentation when translation is restricted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47580  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[09:43:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) [TUX] Editor does not handle restricted languages properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48804 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[09:43:30] <DanielFriesen>	 Qcoder00: Adding a subst: or safesubst: (whichever one + an includeonly around it) will cause the #switch itself to be subst:ed, leaving you with only the part of the subst that was actually used.
[09:43:43] <Qcoder00>	 It will?
[09:43:49] <DanielFriesen>	 Mhmm
[09:44:00] <Qcoder00>	 That's not what happend when I did it
[09:44:06] <DanielFriesen>	 The includeonly makes sure the doesn't happen while editing.
[09:44:10] <DanielFriesen>	 Show me
[09:44:55] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Vignette
[09:45:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Some users get unwantedly logged out on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646  +comment (10andyrom75)
[09:45:52] <DanielFriesen>	 Qcoder00: I don't see any sort of subst
[09:46:01] <Qcoder00>	 That's the template
[09:46:07] <Qcoder00>	 I am setting up the subst right now
[09:46:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fuzzied optional messages should be considered untranslated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39068  summary (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:46:32] <DanielFriesen>	 Added one
[09:48:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Android export should name region variants appropriately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45694  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:48:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Scribunto should expose a version and Lua version on Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39655  +comment (10Matt Walker)
[09:49:50] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_-_1917.djvu/57
[09:50:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) no normalizing translations for wikimarkup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39000  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:50:20] <Qcoder00>	 And the template doesn't seem to work as desired anyway
[09:53:06] <DanielFriesen>	 Looks about right... thoufh you might need some more safesubsts
[09:56:01] <Qcoder00>	 OK Works as desired
[09:56:02] <Qcoder00>	 :)
[09:58:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  (10ssastry)
[10:00:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) mb_check_encoding() change in php 5.4.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43679  +comment (10jan.wikimedia)
[10:04:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please upgrade the Bugzilla version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48736  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:04:49] <Qcoder00>	 Arghh
[10:04:54] <Qcoder00>	 Template subst worked on the page
[10:04:59] <Qcoder00>	 but the transclusion doesn't
[10:05:21] <Qcoder00>	 en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_(1917)/Portraits
[10:08:48] <Qcoder00>	 OK I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board
[10:09:07] <Qcoder00>	 Mediawiki tables in templates seem to be a 'pain in the ****' 
[10:09:10] <Qcoder00>	 :(
[10:09:42] <thedj>	 they are
[10:10:42] <Qcoder00>	 thedj:http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Vignette - Is to muck to ask that something acutally works as intended?
[10:13:10] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_-_1917.djvu/51 - Is what I was trying to layout
[10:13:16] <Qcoder00>	 And for whatever reason it broke
[10:13:36] <Qcoder00>	 Even by substing it I can;t seem to get it laid out correctly
[10:14:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) New page's patrol button should always be visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15936  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[10:14:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Don't use current translation of a string as a suggestion for it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40711  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:14:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Don't use current translation of a string as a suggestion for it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40711  (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:14:28] <Qcoder00>	 Using |on each line works
[10:14:37] <Qcoder00>	 using || as a seperator doesn't
[10:14:48] <Qcoder00>	 Where the table syntax says it should!
[10:14:57] <thedj>	 In general, just don't use wikitable syntax in templates.
[10:15:06] <thedj>	 just using html is quite often a lot easier
[10:15:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3311   +patch-in-gerrit (10Tyler Romeo)
[10:15:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) !N pages non-patrol-able - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35810  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[10:16:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Patrol page link shows on non-existent revs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36641  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:18:06] <Qcoder00>	 I give up
[10:18:18] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_-_1917.djvu/53 table syntax works
[10:18:31] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_%281917%29/Portraits - Doesn't
[10:19:53] <Qcoder00>	 Right back to formatting the table manually it is
[10:19:55] <Qcoder00>	 :(
[10:20:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Patrol page link shows on non-existent revs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36641  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:22:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Vector skin collapsible section arrow is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35340  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:22:45] <Qcoder00>	 OK Can someone explain why markup on a page works, but when that page is transckuded it doesn't?
[10:22:57] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_-_1917.djvu/51
[10:23:07] <Qcoder00>	 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bench_and_bar_of_Colorado_%281917%29/Portraits
[10:23:18] <Qcoder00>	 I've had this exact SAME issue NUMEROUS times...
[10:25:34] <Qcoder00>	 On the transcluded page I'm seeing spurious characters
[10:26:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Can mdbtools be installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48805 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[10:26:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10dsvyas)
[10:26:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Vector skin collapsible section arrow is low-resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35340  +comment (10pginer)
[10:30:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Almost all browsertests Jenkins jobs are failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48214  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:50:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Can mdbtools be installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48805  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:50:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) XFF ranges needs updating with Opera range - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48791  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:50:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable Universal Language Selector at Bangla (bn) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48790  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:56:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) wikimedia.de via HTTPS loads resources over HTTP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47653  +comment (10Nemo)
[10:56:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [InstantCommons] Some hotlinks of Commons files are not protocol-relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48133  +comment (10federicoleva)
[11:05:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Localizing dv.wikipedia namespace and sitename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48075  +comment (10Ushau97)
[11:08:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Logo doesn't use $wgScriptPath if you say "I'm bored already, just install the wiki" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48806 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; ()
[11:21:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  (10ssastry)
[11:25:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Check environment and display new results every time when ?page=Welcome is accessed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31533  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:11:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Scribunto Fatal error Call to a member function pauseUsageTimer() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php on line 405 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; ()
[12:13:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Scribunto Fatal error Call to a member function pauseUsageTimer() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php on line 405 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807  +comment (10sam)
[12:26:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) being added to a Labs project should give you an Echo notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48766  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:31:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [BUG] OpenID URLs are invalid when $wgServer is relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44293  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:31:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [BUG] OpenID URLs are invalid when $wgServer is relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44293  +comment (10T. Gries)
[12:42:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808 normal; Parsoid: JS/serializer; ()
[12:50:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) processMessageChanges doesn't detect inline vs. expanded plural - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38978  normal->minor (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:52:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Labs should not be able to trigger Newprojects announcements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48786  normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:55:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808  (10ssastry)
[12:56:39] <James_A>	 Hi all. Wikivoyage is interested in obtaining the Google Webmaster tools, and we believe we can do so by adding code to the <head> section of the Main Page
[12:56:54] <James_A>	 Would this be possible with this tool and is it safe/reliable? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddHTML
[12:58:27] <ashley>	 no and no and generally Wikimedia Foundation wikis are _not_ allowed to include third-party code like Google Analytics JS or such
[12:58:30] <parent5446>	 James_A: Does that extension even work anymore?
[12:58:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Scribunto Fatal error Call to a member function pauseUsageTimer() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php on line 405 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:58:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Translate "fetch" button is outside the screen on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45924  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:58:59] <liangent>	 ashley: it's generally a <meta> with a hash in it
[12:58:59] <hashar>	 No Google/Facebook/Linkedind/whatever on Wikimedia wikis :-D
[12:59:10] <liangent>	 but the question is who manages it
[12:59:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Logo doesn't use $wgScriptPath if you say "I'm bored already, just install the wiki" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48806  normal->minor; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[12:59:47] <parent5446>	 Note that Google Webmaster Tools != Google Analytics. GWT is only for managing Google indexing of pages.
[12:59:55] <James_A>	 I have no idea about any of the extensions or requirements, sorry. We're just super-keen to get our SEO sorted as we have some serious issues at the moment.
[12:59:57] <hashar>	 James_A: if wikivoyage is interested in having analyze of its traffic, wikimedia foundation already has tool for it
[13:00:22] <parent5446>	 hashar: GWT isn't for analyizing web traffic. It manages Google's indexer status.
[13:00:30] <hashar>	 ohhh
[13:00:33] <hashar>	 like site maps maybe ?
[13:00:44] <parent5446>	 Yeah, basically.
[13:00:56] <James_A>	 yes, we just want the GWT. We're already using the WMF search analysing tool
[13:01:00] <ashley>	 technically adding a <meta> tag or whatever crap is easy as pie (with writing a mini-extension maybe; see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/BeforePageDisplay) but I've understood that there are political objections to using stuff like Google things on WMF
[13:01:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Support Google Translate V2 API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31695  (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:01:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Translate "fetch" button is outside the screen on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45924  +comment (10federicoleva)
[13:01:24] <p858snake|l>	 James_A: probably just easier to get the foudnation contact to poke the google contact, since they don't index us like they do a normal website
[13:01:25] <parent5446>	 Note that the <meta> tag only needs to be there for like ten seconds so the site can be verified.
[13:01:30] <Reedy>	 wmf search analysing tool?
[13:01:57] <hashar>	 James_A: do fill a bug against Wikimedia > Site Requests  ,  maybe the mighty Reedy can help
[13:02:21] <James_A>	 yup, the code only has to be there a short amount of time. We'd love for the WMF to do some poking, but our requests often go unanswered for months, maybe because we make so many of them
[13:02:22] <parent5446>	 James_A: Alternatively why don't you just use the HTML file method and upload the file.
[13:02:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable Universal Language Selector at Bangla (bn) Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48790   +shell (10Andre Klapper)
[13:02:40] <Reedy>	 our requests?
[13:02:56] <Reedy>	 wikivoyage has barely been here months
[13:03:21] <James_A>	 Reedy: buzilla requests, ie, bugs, feature reqs, backend changes, etc
[13:03:30] <Reedy>	 Such as?
[13:03:33] <James_A>	 We've been in beta since late last year, and that's when many of the bug requests were filed
[13:04:19] <Wikinaut>	 Hi   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership#Wikinaut_for_extension_UserMerge_and_Delete is my older request for setting me again up as maintainer
[13:04:39] <Wikinaut>	 can someone please comment, or grant this again, thanks
[13:04:56] <James_A>	 Well we desperately need a listing editor, which was provided when we were at WT, but nothing's happened. Of course, these things take time, but it puts us at a disadvantage
[13:05:00] <Wikinaut>	 I think, it has been forgotten, when the extension was moved from svn to gerrit
[13:05:30] <p858snake|l>	 James_A: has it been filed in bugzilla?
[13:06:28] <James_A>	 Yes, it has been filed, they all have. We're planning on creating a page on Wikivoyage for our own purposes to keep track of our bug requests. Anyway, that's another issue. There is nothing seriously urgent there
[13:08:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Localizing dv.wikipedia namespace and sitename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48075  +comment (10tomasz)
[13:08:07] <ashley>	 Wikinaut: aye, such requests really should be approved like ASAP since the ext in question is not deployed on most WMF wikis (IIRC it's in use on some Wikivoyage wiki maybe?) and as it has no other active maintainer/s...then again, my request on that same page has soon been waiting for two months
[13:08:18] <Wikinaut>	 e-greetings from Berlin to Amsterdam Hackathon
[13:08:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Can mdbtools be installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48805  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:08:37] <Wikinaut>	 ashley: I already mailed to Sumanah
[13:08:39] <Wikinaut>	 and others
[13:08:46] <Wikinaut>	 several times (no reply)
[13:08:58] <Wikinaut>	 whom should I contact ?
[13:09:03] <ashley>	 that's...quite unusual :/
[13:09:12] <ashley>	 maybe Reedy or ^demon or someone?
[13:09:19] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: ping
[13:09:52] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership#Wikinaut_for_extension_UserMerge_and_Delete is my older request for setting me again up as maintainer
[13:11:11] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: can you please set me (again) up as maintainer and project owner - if you can agree, of course ?
[13:11:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Logo doesn't use $wgScriptPath if you say "I'm bored already, just install the wiki" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48806  +comment (10mah)
[13:12:00] <Reedy>	 Wikinaut: there is no UserMerge and Delete
[13:12:05] <Reedy>	 it's just called UserMerge
[13:12:08] <Wikinaut>	 yes
[13:12:39] <Reedy>	 But no, I haven't got permissions to do it
[13:12:47] <ashley>	 o_O
[13:13:13] <Wikinaut>	 The extension page is wrongly named https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete
[13:13:20] <James_A>	 parent5446: I tried the html file upload method of verification, but we don't have the correct sort of access. The file must be uploaded at en.wikivoyage.org/____, but we can only upload to .org/wiki/File:
[13:13:35] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: whom else to contact ?
[13:13:48] <Wikinaut>	 What happened to Sumanah ?
[13:13:53] <parent5446>	 Oh. Yeah in that case just temporarily override a hook. I believe you want to call OutputPage::addMeta.
[13:14:00] <Reedy>	 Someone in ops can likely help
[13:14:09] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan ?
[13:14:17] <Wikinaut>	 who is "someone in ops" ?
[13:14:27] <Wikinaut>	 Krenair ?
[13:14:29] <Reedy>	 No
[13:14:33] <Reedy>	 Operations staff
[13:14:38] <Wikinaut>	 who?
[13:14:48] <Krenair>	 I am not in ops, Wikinaut 
[13:14:50] <Wikinaut>	 TimStarling ?
[13:15:40] <Wikinaut>	 TimStarling: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership#Wikinaut_for_extension_UserMerge_and_Delete is my older request for setting me again up as maintainer (see discussion above)
[13:15:59] <James_A>	 parent5446: hmm, okay. I'll have to take a read of the manual pages first, as I'm no MW whiz, but I'll give it a shot later once I've worked it out. Thanks everyone for the guidance.
[13:16:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) No search index for newly created el.wikivoyage, vec.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48715  -shell +ops; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:16:31] <parent5446>	 No problem. If you come up with something you can pastebin and I can review it.
[13:17:00] <Wikinaut>	 general question: how to _correctly_ swap the page redirects https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserMerge
[13:17:16] <Wikinaut>	 instead of explaining, perhaps someone can simply do this
[13:17:18] <James_A>	 thanks, I'll let you know.
[13:17:29] <Wikinaut>	 Landing page should be https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserMerge
[13:17:43] <Wikinaut>	 and not: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete
[13:18:16] <Wikinaut>	 parent5446: you gave ok for the OpenID patch
[13:18:22] <Wikinaut>	 have you tested it also ?
[13:18:33] <Wikinaut>	 it
[13:18:33] <parent5446>	 Wikinaut: Yes, it worked on my local wiki.
[13:18:34] <Wikinaut>	 great
[13:18:43] <Wikinaut>	 why haven't you made a code review ?
[13:18:48] <Reedy>	 Move X to Z, Move Y to X, Move Z to Y
[13:18:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Scribunto Fatal error Call to a member function pauseUsageTimer() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php on line 405 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807  +comment (10Rohan Verma)
[13:18:52] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: ok
[13:19:08] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: and I hope, you agree with that swao
[13:19:12] <Wikinaut>	 swap
[13:19:12] <liangent>	 Wikinaut: doesn't a simple move work?
[13:19:18] <liangent>	 anyway I moved it
[13:19:38] <Wikinaut>	 liangent: thank you
[13:19:48] <Wikinaut>	 you saved my time :-)
[13:20:06] <dupa>	 is there word 'pentester' in english?
[13:20:26] <parent5446>	 dupa: Yes, 'pentester' is an English word.
[13:20:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Preserve HTML entities in {{DEFAULTSORT}} values on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46470  summary; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[13:20:47] <dupa>	 ok
[13:20:54] <Reedy>	 someone who tests pens
[13:21:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF generation does not support Complex Script Wikis (e.g. Indic languages) and needs to be re-written - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28206  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:21:19] <parent5446>	 :P
[13:21:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change name of LocalSettings.php to settings.php or WikiSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48801  (10Andre Klapper)
[13:22:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:22:48] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: I just want to tell you that Extension:UserMerge still calls itself (in documentation, when listed in SpecialVersion etc.) as "User Merge and Delete (Version 1.71 20130424)"
[13:22:58] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: this for example, I want to change
[13:23:10] <Wikinaut>	 but need the maintainer right back
[13:23:19] <Reedy>	 You only need it to submit
[13:23:22] <Wikinaut>	 no
[13:23:30] <Reedy>	 You can at least get it in gerrit
[13:23:34] <Wikinaut>	 yes
[13:23:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Translate "fetch" button is outside the screen on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45924  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:23:46] <Wikinaut>	 but why not becoming maintainer again ?
[13:23:51] <Wikinaut>	 I was that before the move
[13:24:02] <Reedy>	 I didn't say that
[13:24:02] <Reedy>	 You just don't need it *now*
[13:24:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change name of LocalSettings.php to settings.php or WikiSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48801  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[13:24:27] <Reedy>	 Which isn't so much of an issue, as there's no one around to do it
[13:24:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:26:11] <Wikinaut>	 Reedy: because I am still listed on the Manual page as maintainer, I want also to be able to act as the maintainer
[13:26:23] <Reedy>	 Sure
[13:26:24] <Reedy>	 And that's fine
[13:26:32] <Reedy>	 But you don't need it at this moment in time
[13:26:40] <Reedy>	 You can at least make the change
[13:26:45] <Reedy>	 and someone else can submit it for you
[13:26:52] <Reedy>	 until you get added back to the maintainer list
[13:27:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Logo doesn't use $wgScriptPath if you say "I'm bored already, just install the wiki" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48806  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[13:27:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Installer sets $wgLogo default path incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48084  +comment (10brion)
[13:27:43] <Wikinaut>	 this can be done quickly. It appears (looks as if) it is blocked, or ignored <- I do not say "intentionally" blocked
[13:27:51] <Wikinaut>	 I think, it was only forgotten by Sumanah
[13:27:56] <Wikinaut>	 some months ago
[13:28:00] * Reedy  shrugs

[13:28:05] <Reedy>	 She's not here
[13:28:06] <Wikinaut>	 like for a few other of my extensions
[13:28:19] <Wikinaut>	 she then immediately added me back as maintainer
[13:28:35] <Wikinaut>	 after I told her that it was forgoitten
[13:28:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Translate "fetch" button is outside the screen on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45924  +comment (10federicoleva)
[13:28:43] <Wikinaut>	 so I am not complaining, I just want to
[13:28:48] <Wikinaut>	 make the things solved
[13:29:10] <Wikinaut>	 Tim Laqua was the old maintainer, he resigned, I took over
[13:29:12] <Reedy>	 Ask in #wikimedia-operations
[13:29:13] <Wikinaut>	 some years ago
[13:29:17] <Wikinaut>	 will do
[13:29:19] <Wikinaut>	 ty
[13:29:39] <Wikinaut>	 never visited that chat before
[13:29:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Visiting your own talk page should mark user talk page notifications as read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47912  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:30:49] <clancer>	 Reedy: Hey reedy i was looking at bug 48807. can you still replicate it? I cant.
[13:31:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Always redirect wikidata.org to www.wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45005  (10Daniel Zahn)
[13:31:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10federicoleva)
[13:31:59] <Reedy>	 It's not my userpage
[13:32:35] <Reedy>	 But you're right, it seems ok now
[13:32:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[13:32:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[13:33:16] <Reedy>	 Though, from the actual error, there should be a safeguard or 2 to make sure pauseUsageTimer is called on an object, not on null|false|whatever
[13:33:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org and all other language subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080  summary (10Daniel Zahn)
[13:33:44] <Reedy>	 		$this->getInterpreter()->pauseUsageTimer();
[13:34:06] <Reedy>	 Apparently the load didn't work
[13:34:29] <clancer>	 Reedy: yes. But still i copied his wikitext to mine and could replicate the error but not anymore. just wondering if it the same for you. I think here https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yerpo&action=history you can see there havent been any changes to his page
[13:36:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Editor Engagement Experiments public data sets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44613  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:36:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) iOS app should support push notifications for talk updates etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32291  (10Andre Klapper)
[13:36:41] <Reedy>	 It happened for around 90 minutes
[13:36:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) createAndPromote.php: Change to allow promotion only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35623  (10Andre Klapper)
[13:37:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) LQT Fatal error: __clone method called on non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48809 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; ()
[13:39:28] <clancer>	 Reedy: oh well thanks, if it comes back at least we know the load is fragile somewhere.
[13:40:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Bugs are assigned to departed Wikimedia staff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37789  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:42:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  (10Nemo)
[13:42:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Upload by URL fails without giving any error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39507  (10Nemo)
[13:42:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Include short descriptions for extensions bundled in the release - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43817  (10Nemo)
[13:42:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) list=allpages does not list page "Category:Template:lowercase" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25702  (10Nemo)
[13:42:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) bin/ulimit5.sh isn't UNIX compliant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44568  (10Nemo)
[13:42:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Job queue items from 1.20 get lost – need exit strategy for upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46934  (10Nemo)
[13:42:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] Installer: MySQL Fatal Error "1283: Column 'si_title' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index" for collation set to "binary" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47191  (10Nemo)
[13:42:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  (10Nemo)
[13:42:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Invalid argument supplied for foreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44907  (10Nemo)
[13:42:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enabling extensions during install process displays empty readonly textbox on status page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46802  (10Nemo)
[13:42:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) jquery.makeCollapsible: Refactor to use CSS instead of JavaScript to do the expansion/collapse (including initial state) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40812  (10Nemo)
[13:42:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Revert bug 27860 or add configuration variable to restore "Mark all edits minor by default" preference behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42008  (10Nemo)
[13:42:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ORMRow::insert() fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43475  (10Nemo)
[13:42:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Separate link class for anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43179  (10Nemo)
[13:42:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] mwstore:// URLs appear in various error messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34238  (10Nemo)
[13:42:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Installer sets $wgLogo default path incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48084  (10Nemo)
[13:42:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add ModuleManager support to action=paraminfo (deprecate querymodules) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45641  (10Nemo)
[13:42:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:LinkSearch cannot search with a port in the url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40588  (10Nemo)
[13:42:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.localize tests are failing in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40598  (10Nemo)
[13:42:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add GET and PATH_INFO parameters to [[Special:Import]] URLs, allowing to populate the form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43426  (10Nemo)
[13:42:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Email notification mistakes most log actions for new page creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42457  (10Nemo)
[13:42:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Should we keep the "model" and "format" params in EditPage? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41315  (10Nemo)
[13:42:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Job queue improvements contain unannounced schema changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41100  (10Nemo)
[13:42:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Filter page histories by user, or contributions by title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10788  (10Nemo)
[13:43:07] <Reedy>	 bad Nemo_bis
[13:45:03] <Nemo_bis>	 just a few dozens
[13:45:08] <Nemo_bis>	 and #mediawiki is so silent anyway
[13:50:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Oracle Schema: ON DELETE SET NULL with several tables bring error on deletes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31241  +comment (10Jure Kajzer)
[13:53:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Better integration of patrol feature (rc_patrolled, rc_bot in revision: rv_bot, rv_patrolled) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17237  +comment (10Krinkle)
[13:53:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Use separate log_action for patrol action of autopatrolled edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25799  +comment (10krinklemail)
[13:54:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) creation of new claims (and perhaps other edits) can be (auto)patrolled on wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47415  +comment (10krinklemail)
[13:54:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Image uploading social workflow and motivation - display result on context pages! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33234  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:55:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Scribunto Fatal error Call to a member function pauseUsageTimer() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf4/extensions/Scribunto/engines/LuaCommon/LuaCommon.php on line 405 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807  +comment (10bjorsch)
[14:02:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10dsvyas)
[14:03:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10aklapper)
[14:09:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <translate> transferred to translation subpage when entering a translation at [[Special:Translate]] that contains a non-closed <nowiki> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48794  +comment (10rainerrillke)
[14:10:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <translate> transferred to translation subpage when entering a translation at [[Special:Translate]] that contains a non-closed <nowiki> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48794  +comment (10rainerrillke)
[14:10:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add Hong Kong to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48810 normal; Wiki Loves Monuments: Database; ()
[14:19:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change name of LocalSettings.php to settings.php or WikiSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48801  (10jeffwang16)
[14:19:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) jsub breaks whitespaces in arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48811 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[14:19:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Could not find data for image on pdf upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48700  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:19:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Worked around] [upstream] MediaWiki unit tests segfault on gallium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43972  +comment (10hashar)
[14:21:09] <Nemo_bis>	 :O "Open wikis are sometimes needed for new wikis that are trying to build a user base"
[14:22:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739  +comment (10aklapper)
[14:24:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Get ParserOutput options from expandtemplates or similar action, and encode them as properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48812 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[14:29:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Get ParserOutput options from expandtemplates or similar action, and encode them as properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48812  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[14:39:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[14:41:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[14:42:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[14:48:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:51:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808  (10ssastry)
[14:53:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  (10Nemo)
[14:53:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Multiple continous API requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48703  (10Nemo)
[14:55:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307  (10Nischay Nahata)
[14:56:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10sam)
[14:56:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712  +comment (10sam)
[14:56:44] <Wikinaut>	 hello, is it okay to discuss an getEditToken() issue now and here ?
[14:57:12] <marktraceur>	 Wikinaut: Don't make me turn the bots on you :)
[14:57:19] * marktraceur  means you should ask your question

[14:57:27] <Wikinaut>	 wanted to be polite
[14:57:45] <Wikinaut>	 f ( $this->isAnon() ) {
[14:57:47] <Wikinaut>	 			return EDIT_TOKEN_SUFFIX;
[14:57:50] <marktraceur>	 Wikinaut: It's a common IRC norm to prefer "just ask"
[14:58:06] <Wikinaut>	 ( i do know, but now we have hackathon ?)
[14:58:19] <Wikinaut>	 to keep the channel free ... for other messages..
[14:58:32] <marktraceur>	 Wikinaut: We do! There are 120+ people lurking around, but mostly that conversation is happening elsewhere
[14:58:33] <Wikinaut>	 so, when I want to have tokens for anons
[14:58:36] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: I emailed him tell him to logout but deletion doesn't harm
[14:58:48] <Wikinaut>	 the problem is that getEditToken returns an empty string
[14:59:00] <parent5446>	 Wikinaut: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21986
[14:59:01] <Wikinaut>	 I already proposed to Ryan and Chris Steipp to change this
[14:59:12] <Wikinaut>	 (moment)
[14:59:43] <Wikinaut>	 uh. great. It is based on my proposal !
[15:00:00] <Wikinaut>	 (sent to a few people by mail, not to a mailinglist yet)
[15:00:08] <Wikinaut>	 I do need this. Will check and aplly
[15:00:11] <Wikinaut>	 apply
[15:00:31] <parent5446>	 Awesome, b/c I've been trying to get that merged so that we're finally protected from anonymous CSRF.
[15:00:42] <Wikinaut>	 yepo!
[15:00:46] <Wikinaut>	 very important for me
[15:00:59] <Wikinaut>	 in OpenID for example, I used the login token
[15:01:15] <parent5446>	 Mhm
[15:01:17] <Wikinaut>	 becuase nobody replied (then) to amend getEditToken()
[15:01:25] <Wikinaut>	 parent5446: pre-login!
[15:01:46] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: I got away with regex finally :)
[15:01:49] <Wikinaut>	 parent5446: it is okay, don't worry
[15:02:24] <Wikinaut>	 now I fight with further CSRF vulnerabilities for anons, which can be fixed with the above mentioned patch, probably
[15:02:32] <marktraceur>	 Woo!
[15:03:04] <Wikinaut>	 marktraceur: in an extension.
[15:03:12] <marktraceur>	 What?
[15:03:24] <Wikinaut>	 wil be fixed soon
[15:03:33] <Wikinaut>	 do you have access to security bugs ?
[15:04:08] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: If you find time you can do a quick review of that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65109/
[15:04:16] <marktraceur>	 Wikinaut: I wasn't talking to you, was responding to Nischayn22
[15:04:31] <Wikinaut>	 marktraceur: ok
[15:04:47] <marktraceur>	 Nischayn22: I still don't have the setup for flickr testing
[15:05:06] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: Well you don't need that
[15:05:30] <marktraceur>	 Guh
[15:05:40] <marktraceur>	 For verify I do
[15:05:53] <marktraceur>	 I'll see if I can't go through it and CR+1
[15:05:58] <Susan>	 SEARING MEAT DOESN'T SEAL IN MOISTURE.
[15:06:09] <Susan>	 Can we run a CentralNotice about that?
[15:06:35] <Reedy>	 Susan: Behave.
[15:06:48] <Susan>	 This is important!
[15:06:49] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: http://codepad.org/KiX7rs2j
[15:06:51] <Susan>	 !important;
[15:06:56] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: Just the regex bit
[15:07:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:07:36] <Nischayn22>	 it does give error in codepad
[15:07:38] <Susan>	 22 April 2004
[15:07:41] <Susan>	 MatmaRex: <3
[15:07:53] <Susan>	 Thanks for finding that!
[15:08:49] <marktraceur>	 Nischayn22: Change it to '#/[0-9]*_#'
[15:09:41] <MatmaRex>	 Susan: <3
[15:09:53] <MatmaRex>	 i love me my git blame.
[15:10:07] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: I don't see any difference in output
[15:10:12] <marktraceur>	 Oh?
[15:10:36] <Susan>	 MatmaRex: Heh, I still use manual traversal.
[15:10:42] <Susan>	 Lots of browser tabs and clicking!
[15:10:44] <marktraceur>	 Nischayn22: http://stackoverflow.com/a/8859370
[15:11:43] <MatmaRex>	 Susan: well, that too
[15:11:49] <MatmaRex>	 Susan: and i actually mostly mean git gui blame
[15:12:05] <Nischayn22>	 marktraceur: Hmm, the regex works on my local system so its not a matter
[15:12:41] <marktraceur>	 Yeah.
[15:12:46] <marktraceur>	 That's what the bug is about.
[15:13:53] <Nischayn22>	 I see, but there's no way to get omit the use of substr() there?
[15:14:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tool to check ZIM integrity needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47407  +comment (10kiranmathewkoshy)
[15:14:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  (10Nemo)
[15:19:04] <Wikinaut>	 THIS https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21986/10 saved my whole afternoon. When can this please be deployed (merged) ?
[15:20:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Wikinaut: Adding Chris Steipp (our security guy)
[15:20:56] <Wikinaut>	 one moment
[15:21:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unable to update submodules on tin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48674  (10MZMcBride)
[15:21:29] <Susan>	 RoanKattouw: I just copied you on that. ^
[15:22:06] <RoanKattouw>	 Wikinaut: It's probably gonna take a little bit of time to get reviewed as it's a security thing
[15:22:26] <Wikinaut>	 yes yes
[15:22:30] <Wikinaut>	 I do understand.
[15:22:54] <Susan>	 Heh, it was uploaded August 30, 2012. 
[15:22:54] <RoanKattouw>	 Susan, Reedy: I'm guessing it's because tin is on the private subnet (so it's an internal request to manganese) and fenari is on the public subnet (so it appears as an external request)
[15:23:01] <Reedy>	 RoanKattouw: It worked fine before
[15:23:02] <RoanKattouw>	 At least that's probably why the behavior is differnet
[15:23:04] <Wikinaut>	 RoanKattouw: I have a checked fix for an extension which relies on that https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21986/10
[15:23:08] <RoanKattouw>	 What's breaking the private IPs I don't know
[15:23:14] <Wikinaut>	 what is the best way to do now ?
[15:23:15] <Reedy>	 Then it only worked on some extensions
[15:23:19] <Reedy>	 Now it seems to not work at all
[15:23:21] <Reedy>	 Core is fine too
[15:23:33] <Susan>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git/info/refs is indeed an error...
[15:23:58] <Reedy>	 i don't think it's supposed to be user browseable like that
[15:24:02] <RoanKattouw>	 Different error though
[15:24:06] <RoanKattouw>	 You can't HTTP GET it
[15:24:18] <RoanKattouw>	 git uses some weird verbs
[15:24:43] <RoanKattouw>	 Reedy: Have you tried rm -rf extensions ; git checkout ; git submodule update --init ?
[15:24:49] <RoanKattouw>	 Which
[15:24:53] <Susan>	 Hmmmm.
[15:24:54] <RoanKattouw>	 I suppose you shouldn't try that on the live copy :)
[15:24:58] <Reedy>	 Not the whole directory IIRC
[15:25:07] <Reedy>	 i'm fairly sure I tried one extension
[15:25:07] <RoanKattouw>	 You'd want to back it up first
[15:25:14] <Susan>	 If it's working for some, but not others, maybe file permissions?
[15:25:21] <RoanKattouw>	 Lest you accidentally delete all of it and like have to copy it back from fenari
[15:25:29] <Reedy>	 Why would it give a 403 then?
[15:25:34] <Susan>	 Yeah, git rm is terrifying.
[15:26:27] <Susan>	 403 sounds like an auth issue.
[15:26:43] <Susan>	 So file permissions wouldn't be too insane... has Wikibase been updated at all?
[15:26:47] <Susan>	 Can other users update it?
[15:26:49] <Susan>	 Can root?
[15:26:50] <Reedy>	 It's not just wikidata
[15:26:54] <Reedy>	 It's any extension now
[15:26:59] <Reedy>	 The error propogated
[15:27:03] <Susan>	 You've won!
[15:27:40] <Reedy>	 Other people reported problems too
[15:27:44] <Reedy>	 No idea if anyone tested as root
[15:27:59] <RoanKattouw>	 That would majorly screw it up for everyone else
[15:28:07] <RoanKattouw>	 I'll try cloning the repo anew in my home dor
[15:29:12] <Susan>	 https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=1491 Hmmm.
[15:29:16] <Reedy>	 Fetching submodule extensions/Wikibase
[15:29:16] <Reedy>	 error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase.git/info/refs
[15:29:16] <Reedy>	 fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:29:16] <Reedy>	 Fetching submodule extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess
[15:29:17] <Reedy>	 error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.git/info/refs
[15:29:19] <Reedy>	 fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:29:21] <Susan>	 I don't think that's the exact same issue.
[15:29:26] <Susan>	 (My link.)
[15:29:28] <Reedy>	 They're nested
[15:29:39] <Reedy>	 We do have some nested ones, but it's only parsoide and wikibase iirc
[15:30:11] <Susan>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git says it may be related to the version of Git.
[15:30:20] <Susan>	 Though surely that's consistent everywhere...
[15:30:31] <Reedy>	 reedy@tin:/a/common/php-1.22wmf4$ git --version
[15:30:31] <Reedy>	 git version 1.7.9.5
[15:30:46] <Susan>	 Hmmm.
[15:30:50] <Reedy>	 Both are using the same version
[15:31:08] <Susan>	 Well, have you done anything to upset the gods lately?
[15:31:12] <Susan>	 ANY SINNING?
[15:31:31] <Reedy>	 I blame you.
[15:31:34] <ashley>	 God hates gerrit
[15:31:40] <Susan>	 I'm not a blame option!
[15:31:42] <Susan>	 !blame
[15:31:43] <wm-bot>	 Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. For everything else, there's `git blame`.
[15:32:34] <Reedy>	 Computers suck
[15:32:58] <Susan>	 Preach.
[15:40:04] <Wikinaut>	 can someone explain to me why https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65420/ shows the "Depends on" https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21986/9 as OUTDATED ?
[15:41:18] <Reedy>	 Because it's based on old patchset
[15:41:20] <Reedy>	 rebase it
[15:44:53] <RoanKattouw>	 Wikinaut: Click the Rebase button and it should fix iteslf
[15:45:01] <RoanKattouw>	 *itself
[15:46:33] <Wikinaut>	 RoanKattouw: I am not the committer, so I don't see rebase button _there_
[15:46:45] <Wikinaut>	 perhaps you can do?
[15:46:59] <RoanKattouw>	 I clicked it, let's see if it works
[15:47:07] <RoanKattouw>	 If it conflicts, it'll have to be resolved on the command line
[15:47:11] <Reedy>	 Worked
[15:47:14] <RoanKattouw>	 Yay, it went through
[15:47:16] <Wikinaut>	 of course
[15:48:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739  +comment (10steven)
[15:48:06] <Wikinaut>	 so another question: I have a fix for an csrf vulnerability in an extension, which is (also) based on the unmerged https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65420/
[15:48:18] <Wikinaut>	 what do you recommend ?
[15:48:35] <RoanKattouw>	 You can't make it a hard dependency in Gerrit because it's in a different repository
[15:48:40] <Wikinaut>	 yes
[15:48:52] <Wikinaut>	 that is why I ask for the best practice
[15:48:55] <Wikinaut>	 for such cases
[15:49:04] <RoanKattouw>	 So you should -1/-2 it and write a comment saying it depends on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65420/
[15:49:08] <Wikinaut>	 done
[15:49:10] <Wikinaut>	 aloready
[15:49:17] <Wikinaut>	 thanky
[15:49:18] <RoanKattouw>	 OK that's fine
[15:49:33] <Wikinaut>	 RoanKattouw: do you have access ti security bugs ?
[15:49:36] <Wikinaut>	 to
[15:50:03] <Wikinaut>	 (but it#s not important now)
[15:50:36] <RoanKattouw>	 I believe s
[15:50:47] <Susan>	 You're not a Bugzilla admin, as far as I can tell.
[15:50:51] <RoanKattouw>	 I gave up my adminship recently but I think I still have access to the security component
[15:50:51] <Susan>	 Surprisingly.
[15:50:55] <Susan>	 Hmmm.
[15:51:07] <RoanKattouw>	 Someone walked over to my desk and asked me if I still needed it, I said no
[15:54:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739  +comment (10steven)
[15:54:39] <Wikinaut>	 above I have seen "Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. For everything else, there's `git blame`." Hi, I thought he is with f*book since a while..
[15:54:56] <Reedy>	 He is
[15:54:58] <Reedy>	 He's still around
[15:55:01] <Reedy>	 and does stuff
[15:55:03] <Wikinaut>	 and the bot message
[15:55:09] <Wikinaut>	 evil stuff
[15:55:10] <Reedy>	 why not write it out properly?
[15:55:20] <Wikinaut>	 fuckbook ?
[15:55:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) User blocked from editing talk page still can edit IP talk page with his autoblocked IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48813 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; ()
[15:56:27] <Krenair>	 ooh, mediawiki 1.21 released
[15:56:31] <Krenair>	 Thehelpfulone, ^
[15:57:22] <Krenair>	 okay then
[15:57:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: List langlinks (readonly) in the meta-data dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48814 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[15:57:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426  (10James Forrester)
[15:57:44] <Krenair>	 Susan, ^
[15:57:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: List langlinks (readonly) in the meta-data dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48814  (10James Forrester)
[15:58:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Run ULS tests at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48307  (10Željko Filipin)
[15:58:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Run ULS tests at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48307  (10Željko Filipin)
[15:58:37] <Vulpix>	 someone needs to update the channel topic, then
[15:59:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Data model needs characters, not code points - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48630  +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:00:44] <Krenair>	 looks like the announcement didn't go through to mediawiki-announce...
[16:02:03] <Susan>	 Krenair: Nice.
[16:02:06] <Krenair>	 guess it's stuck in moderation, but hexmode shouldn't need that...
[16:02:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739  +comment (10steven)
[16:02:45] <Susan>	 Oh, I was supposed to update the topic?
[16:02:49] <Susan>	 Is it locked?
[16:03:24] <Susan>	 Krenair should have ops in here.
[16:03:29] * Susan  sighs.

[16:05:05] <Susan>	 Jimmy has ops in here.
[16:05:07] <Susan>	 Just in case.
[16:05:28] <Susan>	 It used to be that you just asked Fire. But it looks like he's no longer around.
[16:05:34] <Susan>	 Or at least he's not a super-op.
[16:05:39] <Susan>	 And Erik is never around.
[16:05:44] <Susan>	 So I guess you'd need Brion or Tim.
[16:05:48] <Reedy>	 Krenair: Everything is moderated on mediawiki-announce
[16:06:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) improve workflow when multi upload hits 50 item barrier - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40158  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:07:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) improve workflow when multi upload hits 50 item barrier - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40158  (10Nischay Nahata)
[16:17:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) The [close] link shouldn't be injected into HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48815 normal; MediaWiki extensions: DismissableSiteNotice; ()
[16:21:20] <Kustom>	 hello
[16:29:16] <Vulpix>	 hi
[16:47:43] <digipikseli>	 hello
[16:48:27] <digipikseli>	 I have fresh install MediaWiki 1.20.6 and problem with image thumbnail
[16:48:50] <digipikseli>	 when i upload image, system uploads photo correctly but cannot create thumbs
[16:48:56] <digipikseli>	 what should i do?
[16:49:10] <Reedy>	 any error message?
[16:49:14] <Reedy>	 most likely file permissions
[16:49:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308  +comment (10Bohdan)
[17:02:04] <Juandev>	 hi
[17:04:58] <Juandev>	 this is not so clear "This will appear in the title bar of the browser and in various other places. " 
[17:10:40] <digipikseli>	 nobody awake to help :) ?
[17:11:26] <Vulpix>	 digipikseli: read Reedy's messages ^
[17:12:06] <digipikseli>	 sry, too many join/away messages, didnt see :D
[17:13:24] <digipikseli>	 okay, Reedy "Error creating thumbnail:"
[17:13:46] <digipikseli>	 this bumbs up when upload finish and page shows file info
[17:14:09] <Vulpix>	 is there any error message after "Error creating thumbnail"?
[17:14:17] <digipikseli>	 thats all :/
[17:14:37] <digipikseli>	 but cause fresh install, shoul i try permissions?
[17:15:19] <Vulpix>	 yes, most probably. The upload folder needs to be writtable by the user account in which the http service (apache, etc) is running
[17:16:25] <digipikseli>	 images folder in this case?
[17:18:08] <digipikseli>	 or some other folders? Vulpix 
[17:18:09] <Vulpix>	 yes, /images if you haven't changed $wgUploadDirectory
[17:18:36] <digipikseli>	 thats in localsettings?
[17:19:07] <Vulpix>	 yes, $wgUploadDirectory is defined in LocalSettings.php if you have customized it
[17:20:24] <digipikseli>	 i dont have that row in localsetting, is that ok?
[17:20:58] <Vulpix>	 yes, if it's also OK to have images in the ./images folder under your install directory
[17:21:30] <digipikseli>	 yes, i can use that folder anyway =)
[17:22:05] <digipikseli>	 about permissions, should the be 777 that or 755 or what ;)
[17:22:53] <Vulpix>	 I'd suggest giving 777 to test that it works, and then restrict it to 755 or even 744
[17:23:06] <digipikseli>	 lets see
[17:25:53] <digipikseli>	 ok nothing happened
[17:25:59] <digipikseli>	 :/
[17:26:28] <Vulpix>	 have you tried to upload a file again?
[17:26:36] <digipikseli>	 multiple times :(
[17:27:20] <digipikseli>	 should i install fresh mediawiki from the scratch, at the moment install were made from webhost auto-install menu
[17:28:40] <Vulpix>	 is the uploaded file displayed on the file page? Or clicking on it the file is displayed?
[17:29:42] <digipikseli>	 there is blank spot were picture should be, if you check full resolution pic, it will work fine
[17:30:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[17:31:14] <Vulpix>	 ok, then the file is actually uploaded, but the thumbnail generation doesn't work
[17:31:43] <digipikseli>	 yep, i think so also
[17:33:44] <Vulpix>	 digipikseli: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_thumbnailing
[17:45:56] <digipikseli>	 Vulpix: i install just for test fresh wiki by myself and pictures working
[17:46:10] <digipikseli>	 so some setting in that auto-setup version is wrong
[17:46:26] <digipikseli>	 lucky i just started so only few small text to transfer
[17:46:34] <digipikseli>	 thanks your help anyway =)
[17:48:07] <Vulpix>	 you're welcome ;)
[18:17:47] <Nemo_bis>	 DanielFriesen: can you please move this statement http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2013-May/041225.html to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam
[18:18:01] <Nemo_bis>	 Meaning "IP blocking simply doesn't work. It's like playing whack-a-mole against a   billion moles (or trillions on trillions once IPv6 really takes off)."
[18:18:37] <Nemo_bis>	 I've always had the feeling that the whole section about IP blacklisting was a mistake, but someone has to put it clearly to avoid people wasting a lot of efforts, time and CPU in following that advice
[18:23:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) jstart doesn't guarantee -once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48816 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[18:38:44] <Skizzerz>	 DanielFriesen: replied on my talk page as well, but re the MW_NO_SETUP thing, not needed anymore so feel free to kill off
[18:46:37] <d33tah>	 hi guys, were there any works on making wikipedia decentralized, with article revisions branching and merging as in git?
[18:50:19] <digipikseli>	 noob is back
[18:50:22] <digipikseli>	 http://www.digipikseli.fi/Battlefield_4/Battlefield_4
[18:50:44] <digipikseli>	 source here http://www.digipikseli.fi/Battlefield_4/index.php?title=Battlefield_4&action=edit
[18:51:04] <digipikseli>	 how can i get table to rightside and type text leftside
[18:57:00] <Vulpix>	 digipikseli: add: style="float:right;" to the table
[18:57:17] <Vulpix>	 that's called CSS styles
[19:02:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) The resizer image in the unit translation dialog must be mirrored when translating to RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[19:03:53] <digipikseli>	 thank u :)
[19:04:14] <Krenair>	 hexmode, still not got mediawiki-announce approval?
[19:18:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) OGE: Make *.out and *.err unreadable by the public by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48818 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[19:20:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Job queue improvements contain unannounced schema changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41100  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:32:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308  +comment (10base-w)
[19:36:19] <digipikseli>	 Vulpix: i would like to have textarea more wider
[19:36:24] <digipikseli>	 here is skin php http://pastebin.com/ktLip1CW
[19:36:37] <digipikseli>	 already deleted toolbox and menu 
[19:37:40] <Vulpix>	 add this to CSS?: #wpTextbox1 {style:width:100%;}
[19:38:04] <Vulpix>	 err: #wpTextbox1 {width:100%;}
[19:39:08] <mbutubuntu>	 hello folks
[19:40:24] <digipikseli>	 tried, no nothing
[19:40:26] <digipikseli>	 :
[19:40:27] <digipikseli>	 :/
[19:46:47] <Vulpix>	 interesting. 1.19 will be EOL in 2015, but 1.20 in 2013, and 1.21 in 2014 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle
[19:47:58] <Vulpix>	 It's like Firefox 3.5 support?
[19:48:07] <mbutubuntu>	 I've installed mediawiki on localhost, then I migrated it to another host (re-configuring all the necessary LocalSettings). I've an issue with the "mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint,shared|skins.vector" CSS. On localhost the #mw-page-base selector has a base64 string as image. On the other host the same selector has an "url(images/page-fade.png);" that produce a 404...! is there someone who can help me changing that CSS code? where is it? in the DB, in 
[19:48:07] <mbutubuntu>	 the sources... thank you.
[19:48:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Hong Kong to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48810  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[19:48:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42164  (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[19:48:50] <mbutubuntu>	 that CSS is loaded through the /load.php script
[19:54:30] <Vulpix>	 mbutubuntu: see if those images exist on the server (should be in /skins/vector/images/page-fade.png)
[19:56:12] <Vulpix>	 !db uploadstash
[19:56:12] <wm-bot>	 See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:uploadstash_table
[19:58:51] <Vulpix>	 AaronSchulz: feel free to update table documentation when doing schema changes
[20:05:47] <mbutubuntu>	 Vulpix, -> page-fade.png: PNG image data, 1 x 44, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
[20:06:27] <mbutubuntu>	 page-fade.png is there
[20:06:54] <Vulpix>	 that's odd
[20:07:02] <Vulpix>	 mbutubuntu: try adding ?debug=true (or &debug=true if the URL already contains a "?" character)
[20:08:12] <mbutubuntu>	 Vulpix, great, debug=true makes that CSS readable, thanks :-D
[20:08:33] <Vulpix>	 yeah
[20:09:45] <mbutubuntu>	 Vulpix, and with debug=true the background seems correct....
[20:11:02] <mbutubuntu>	 Vulpix, it is incredible, I've double checked
[20:11:03] <Vulpix>	 mbutubuntu: is the background encoded/embedded when debug=true or it's a url()?
[20:11:21] <mbutubuntu>	 with debug -> correct, without -> incorect
[20:11:34] <mbutubuntu>	 both :-)
[20:11:59] <mbutubuntu>	 the last is the image with "!ie" appended
[20:12:19] <Vulpix>	 I mean, url() with a direct link to the file
[20:13:30] <mbutubuntu>	 yes, url with a full path to the img
[20:16:28] <d33tah>	 hi guys, were there any works on making wikipedia decentralized, with article revisions branching and merging as in git?
[20:16:59] <Vulpix>	 d33tah: there aren't even plans to do that
[20:19:46] <d33tah>	 okay, no plans, any experimental  implementations?
[20:19:50] <d33tah>	 anything you heard of?
[20:39:12] <MrJones>	 hi
[20:39:25] <MrJones>	 http://www.blitwizard.de/wiki/Main_Page why does mediawiki think I'm 127.0.0.1? (feel free to test)
[20:40:04] <MrJones>	 I use nginx and internally apache with forward proxying, and mod_rpaf to make apache adapt the external ip. works fine for phpBB, but not for mediawiki (despite both being in the same vhost)... and I have no idea why it doesn't work :x
[21:10:44] <MrJones>	 doesn't even work using $wgUsePrivateIPs and $wgSquidServersNoPurge set to 127.0.0.1 and the server's ip... odd
[21:11:08] <MrJones>	 can I make mediawiki look for X-Real-Ip instead of X-Forwarded-For?
[21:11:22] <MrJones>	 the latter is probably stripped by apache's mod_rpaf which mediawiki doesn't seem to like for some reason
[21:17:35] <hexmode>	 Krenair_: no, it has been 6mo since I needed it.... :(
[21:18:12] <Krenair_>	 It looks like TimStarling is an admin for that list... not sure who else is
[21:18:22] <Krenair_>	 maybe csteipp can help
[21:18:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) ForeignDBRepo conflicts with $wgSharedDB / $wgSharedTables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48819 normal; MediaWiki: File management; ()
[21:41:18] <hexmode>	 I
[21:41:37] <hexmode>	 I'll ask csteipp tomorrow if he isn't online tonight
[21:52:31] <MrJones>	 ok what apart from $wgUsePrivateIPs and an entry in $wgSquidServersNoPurge do I need to get reverse proxy support to work?
[21:53:21] <MrJones>	 I confirmed X-Forwarded-For is there with a simple: echo "X-Forwarded-For: " . $headers["X-Forwarded-For"];
[21:53:26] <MrJones>	 $headers being from apache_request_headers()
[21:53:34] <MrJones>	 still, mediawiki insists I'm from 127.0.0.1
[21:53:37] <MrJones>	 so whatelse would I need?
[21:53:48] <MrJones>	 REMOTE_ADDR is 127.0.0.1 and I added that to $wgSquidServersNoPurge
[21:54:21] <DanielFriesen>	 Nemo_bis: ;) How about I just say it's cc-by-sa and you do it.
[21:55:13] <Whuspedian>	 hi
[21:55:31] <Gika>	 should 1.20 extensions work with 1.21?
[21:56:08] <Whuspedian>	 Gika: No.
[21:56:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) importDump.php: Oracle DB error "quoted string not properly terminated" after several hours - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38793  +comment (10Jure Kajzer)
[21:56:40] * DanielFriesen  kicks Whuspedian

[21:57:06] <Gika>	 er
[21:57:11] <DanielFriesen>	 Gika: In general yes. Though it's best to be up to date. Once in awhile something incompatible will creep in.
[21:57:24] <Whuspedian>	 arrghh
[21:57:31] <Whuspedian>	 Why I was kicked?
[21:58:00] <Gika>	 DanielFriesen: my extensions are installed through git and currently they're all on a REL1_20 branch (REL1_21 doesn't exist yet). i guess i should switch to master to be sure...?
[21:58:25] <Whuspedian>	 DanielFriesen: I can not answer a question?
[21:58:29] <DanielFriesen>	 Gika: Yeah. You might as well track master anyways.
[21:58:50] <DanielFriesen>	 Whuspedian: Answering questions is fine. Answering them with the wrong answer is unhelpful.
[21:59:00] <Whuspedian>	 Wrong answer? Where?
[21:59:07] <Whuspedian>	 I said no. This is true.
[21:59:24] <Whuspedian>	 Extensions of 1.20 don't works on 1.21
[21:59:35] <Gika>	 DanielFriesen: do you recommend using master for the rest of the wiki too?
[21:59:36] <DanielFriesen>	 Except they do.
[21:59:48] <DanielFriesen>	 Gika: Core no. Extensions yes.
[21:59:54] <Gika>	 trolls gonna troll
[22:00:02] <Whuspedian>	 Gika: What is wiki?
[22:00:13] <Whuspedian>	 Gika: Can you send a link?
[22:00:37] <Gika>	 DanielFriesen: thanks :)
[22:01:06] <Whuspedian>	 Gika: Can you send a link?
[22:02:47] <DanielFriesen>	 Gika: If you're going to keep up with the latest stable then it's usually safe to use the master version of extensions. Most extensions try to keep compatibility with core master and the latest stable. Once in awhile you'll run into an extension that breaks, you can just switch to a REL then. REL branches are made automatically and rarely kept up to date. They're really around so that if you're using an old version of MW you have a snapshot of 
[22:03:17] <DanielFriesen>	 "... They're really around so that if you're using an old version of MW you have a snapshot of old versions of the extension that'll work."
[22:03:30] * DanielFriesen  glares at his irc clients

[22:04:46] <Whuspedian>	 lool
[22:07:28] <Whuspedian>	 daniel is gay
[22:07:29] <Whuspedian>	 bye
[22:10:15] <Susan>	 The gayest.
[22:11:01] <Gika>	 oh ok - in fact i've also had REL branches breaking, so...
[22:11:12] <DanielFriesen>	 Jeez my irc client is going buggy.
[22:14:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor should not try to initialise if no ContentEditable support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38128  (10James Forrester)
[22:14:31] <Gika>	 it's safe to use REL branches for core though, right?
[22:16:08] <DanielFriesen>	 mhmm
[22:16:24] <DanielFriesen>	 Those are what our tarballs are based on.
[22:17:37] * Susan  NP: "I Want You Back" by 'N Sync from "*NSYNC"

[22:17:43] <Gika>	 btw, i just updated to beff6f0a98bb4e0fe87736eb48581949fe901967 (branch REL1_21 and tag 1.21.0) and it shows as 1.21.0rc5 in special:version
[22:27:36] <DanielFriesen>	 looks like mah forgot that
[22:36:26] <Gika>	 what determines the "Search engine status" in the new info page?
[22:42:21] <juliend>	 hi, i have a problem with mwlib and collection plugin
[22:43:01] <juliend>	 i have make change in configuration, and i have this error : RuntimeError: command failed with returncode 256
[22:43:22] <juliend>	 urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 66] unknown>
[22:43:46] <juliend>	 wm-zip seems to can't join url
[22:43:59] <juliend>	 and, I don't know why...
[22:44:40] <DanielFriesen>	 Gika: Sounds like robots index/noindex status.
[22:53:50] <jMyles>	 I need to do some performance tuning.  I'm having trouble figuring out where my bottlenecks are.  I have gone through the performance tuning page, but I still have a few questions.
[22:53:59] <jMyles>	 Is there a guide on how to read the output of profileinfo.php?
[22:54:08] <jMyles>	 Also, how can I tell how much stress the Job Queue is adding?
[22:54:50] <jMyles>	 My wiki is a relatively small community wiki for a small town.  It gets just a few hundred uniques a day, although there are some rushes at various points during the day when there's news or something.
[22:59:31] <jMyles>	 Mostly, I think I'd like to figure out what's happening with APC.  I want to be able to delve further into assessing performance bottlenecks than the current docs depict.
[22:59:53] <Gika>	 there's an apc.php you can use to check the status of apc
[23:01:44] <Gika>	 if you have lots of edits you should probably empty the queue periodically with a cron script
[23:05:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866  +comment (10Erik J)
[23:06:50] <juliend>	 mw-zip -c http://192.168.122.205/domaineA/project3/ -o test.zip --username root --password master Accueil :   
[23:06:52] <juliend>	 it's ok                                                                                                       
[23:06:54] <juliend>	 but if I replace http://192.168.122.205/domaineA/project3/ by http://toto.titi.fr/domaineA/project3/, it's    
[23:06:56] <juliend>	 not ok                                                                                                        
[23:06:58] <juliend>	 but in /etc/hosts, I declare 192.168.122.205 toto.titi.fr                                                     
[23:07:00] <juliend>	 what is the problem ,                                                                                         
[23:07:02] <juliend>	 ?                                                                                                             
[23:15:37] <jMyles>	 Gika: apc.php reports that APC is not running.  I assume that this is because it's not running for the CLI config?  What's the typical practice for that?
[23:16:34] <jMyles>	 Gika: Also, do you know of a document that explains how to interpret the output of profileinfo.php?
[23:17:00] <Gika>	 jMyles: i do not understand, you're running apc.php through the console? you should open it on your webserver
[23:17:46] <Gika>	 jMyles: unfortunately i'm not very familiar with the profiler
[23:17:55] <jMyles>	 Gika: I see.  Since apc.php is not in my public_html, how can I open it?
[23:18:05] <Gika>	 move it there :)
[23:18:12] <Gika>	 or copy it, whatever
[23:19:37] <jMyles>	 Gika: Oh, yeah?  OK.  I'm sorry if my questions seem obvious - I'm more accustomed to the separation of logic from templating that you get with MVC frameworks like django or rails.  I love mediawiki, but I haven't revisited it since I've gotten more into python and such.
[23:21:15] <Gika>	 yeah -- apc.php comes with apc itself, you just drag it somewhere on the webserver and you open it
[23:21:23] <jMyles>	 Gika: Saving pages and uploading images are particularly slow processes.  I'd love to be able to surgically determine which parts of the stack (or which lines of PHP) are the bottlenecks.
[23:23:44] <Gika>	 if your pages use many templates (or nested templates) it might be a reason
[23:23:47] <Gika>	 *uses
[23:25:30] <Fenyx4>	 Hiya.
[23:26:04] <Fenyx4>	 I'm trying to get the semantic wiki slideshow widget working with MobileFrontend (or at least be less broken). It is busted cuz MobileFrontend doesn't load javascript. Is there a way for me to tweak the slideshow so that instead of displaying "Loading..." at first it shows the first image? Then when there is no javascript at least the first image would be displayed.
[23:26:24] <Fenyx4>	 I'm afraid I'm fairly bad ay css and miserable at javascript...  http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/forever/Ultima_Forever:Featured_Media?useformat=mobile <- Busted slideshow
[23:26:49] <Gika>	 also, i think that by default mediawiki runs jobs from the queue on page loads, if your job queue table is long you should just setup a cron script to do that
[23:28:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org and all other language subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080  +comment (10dzahn)
[23:34:21] <hednod>	 getting an error after upgrading to 1.21.0 that i can't seem to find a relevant web post about.  
[23:34:38] <hednod>	 php upgrade.php bails with: Database returned error "1054: Unknown column 'rev_sha1' in 'field list' (10.0.0.48)"
[23:34:48] <hednod>	 I think I was at 1.16.x before this
[23:34:51] <hednod>	 did i miss something?
[23:35:05] <juliend>	 My proble is the same : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:Collection/Render_server_error_-_Collection_-_mwlib
[23:35:54] <hednod>	 no you seem to be getting a lot more errors than me
[23:36:31] <Reedy>	 rev_sha1 came in 1.19
[23:36:50] <hednod>	 Reedy: yes. did i need to upgrade to 1.19 first before 1.21?
[23:37:01] <Reedy>	 no
[23:37:52] <hednod>	 then how do i determine where it's going wrong?
[23:38:25] <Reedy>	 Does it not give you any more info than that?
[23:39:43] <hednod>	 http://pastebin.com/UcGFLubG
[23:40:50] <hednod>	 everything before that point, checks out ok
[23:42:27] <Reedy>	 convertUserOptions doesn't touch revision
[23:42:33] <Reedy>	 so where's that stuff coming from..
[23:43:24] <hednod>	 dont know. can i cut that part out of the script to get past it?
[23:43:55] <Reedy>	 You really want the user option conversion to run
[23:44:34] <hednod>	 I have a handful of users if any left on this wiki, I really wouldn't mind nuking the user database all together and makign them re-create users
[23:44:35] <Reedy>	 I'd probably be more tempted to run: ALTER TABLE /*$wgDBprefix*/revision ADD rev_sha1 varbinary(32) NOT NULL default ''; manually
[23:44:43] <Reedy>	 and then re-run update.php
[23:44:46] <hednod>	 ok
[23:44:48] <hednod>	 i'll go for that
[23:45:56] <hednod>	 btw there is no prefix its blank
[23:46:06] <hednod>	 so just ALTER TABLE /revision ADD rev_sha1 varbinary(32) NOT NULL default '';
[23:46:07] <hednod>	 like that?
[23:46:17] <Reedy>	 It's commented out anyway, mysql will ignore it
[23:46:21] <Reedy>	 you've got an extra /
[23:46:31] <Reedy>	 mediawiki would replace it before running hte query
[23:46:38] <hednod>	 ALTER TABLE revision ADD rev_sha1 varbinary(32) NOT NULL default '';
[23:46:50] <Reedy>	 yup
[23:48:37] <hednod>	 thats working thanks
[23:48:50] <hednod>	 wonder how it got that way
[23:48:54] <Reedy>	 I think I'm gonna log a bug for it
[23:49:26] <Susan>	 Dun dun dun.
[23:50:15] <hednod>	 :)
[23:51:40] <hednod>	 previous version was  definitely 1.16.0 
[23:52:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Revision query error during convertUserOptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48820 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; ()
[23:52:38] <Reedy>	 A simple fix would be to update the ordering and do the rev_sha1/ar_sha1 stuff first
[23:52:47] <Reedy>	 it's still confusing why a revision query was apparently being run there
[23:59:38] <HSJ>	 Hello, was there an email sent out about 1.21.0?