[00:00:42] <Susan>	 HSJ: Partially.
[00:04:03] <HSJ>	 :/
[00:04:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement configuration database aka configuration management aka no shell excuse (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26992  (10MZMcBride)
[00:05:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor should not try to initialise if no ContentEditable support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38128  +comment (10Krinkle)
[00:07:35] <odder>	 HSJ: there was.
[00:07:58] <HSJ>	 So why can't I find it? :|
[00:08:01] <odder>	 HSJ: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-May/069570.html
[00:09:07] <Susan>	 It didn't hit the announce list, I don't think.
[00:09:11] <Susan>	 Not sure about mediawiki-l.
[00:13:06] <HSJ>	 No wonder Susan said partially.
[00:13:28] <HSJ>	 (I'm not subscribed to that list, I just happened to see it on the website)
[00:19:07] * HSJ  coughs

[00:20:38] <Susan>	 Louder.
[00:22:13] * HSJ  coughs deafeningly :P

[00:34:24] <HSJ>	 odder: Help please :P
[00:36:19] * HSJ  says or Susan, just in case he could get a quicker response/the person he pinged earlier is away :)

[00:39:22] <HSJ>	 Strange... Reedy, perhaps?
[00:41:11] <Susan>	 What do you need?
[00:48:45] <HSJ>	 Susan: When editing something in a non-master branch, shouldn't I do something like "git checkout -b REL1_17 gerrit/REL1_17" according to the help page?
[00:52:55] * HSJ  will leave a note in #wikimedia-dev

[01:01:00] <HSJ>	 Found what I wanted, thanks anyway :)
[01:15:51] <Susan>	 You go girl.
[01:37:07] * HSJ  isn't a girl -_-

[01:38:26] <HSJ>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&usprop=gender&ususers=Hazard-SJ
[01:38:39] <HSJ>	 :)
[02:43:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Badge count is caching incorrect number upon new notification creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48821 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[02:49:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Badge count is caching incorrect number upon new notification creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48821  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[02:55:10] <DanielFriesen>	 HSJ: ;) neither is Susan
[02:57:19] <HSJ>	 DanielFriesen: That is considered "unknown" :P
[03:00:47] <p858snake|l>	 DanielFriesen: omg, outing
[03:34:49] <thingles>	 hey all, I just downloaded the tarball of 1.21 off of mw.o, installed it, and it's reporting itself as 1.21.0rc5
[03:36:18] <thingles>	 okay, Someone replied on wikitech-l that that was an issue that got fixed in github today.
[03:37:19] <p858snake|l>	 no, I said it got fixed in Git today
[03:37:26] <p858snake|l>	 and probably hasn't been reviewed yet
[03:37:31] <thingles>	 sorry.. my typo
[03:37:35] <thingles>	 s/github/git
[03:38:28] <thingles>	 p858snake|l: do you know if it was just a mislabel of the version? otherwise it is the final bits?
[03:39:14] <p858snake|l>	 yes it was a mislabel
[03:39:49] <thingles>	 thx
[04:24:28] <thingles>	 hmm.. trying to enable Echo in MW 1.21 and getting a javascript error "Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui"
[04:24:50] <thingles>	 1.21 doesn't have a resources/mediawiki.ui directory from the tarball
[04:27:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[04:45:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800  +comment (10arjunaraoc)
[04:49:49] <thingles>	 Nice having HighDPI/Retina images in my wiki! :-)
[04:55:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Badge count is caching incorrect number upon new notification creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48821  (10bsitu)
[04:55:47] <FastLizard4>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests/User_rights/FastLizard4 <- Ahem. :P
[04:58:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) RichTextEditor adds wrong sort key in the category tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48823 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[05:01:25] <HSJ>	 FastLizard4: What about it? :P
[05:01:36] <FastLizard4>	 HSJ: What do you think?  :P:
[05:02:00] <HSJ>	 FastLizard4: Hmm ... you want to withdraw? :D
[05:02:16] <p858snake|l>	 FastLizard4: done autochecked for now
[05:02:17] <FastLizard4>	 HSJ: Yes, withdraw my nonexistant rights
[05:02:25] <FastLizard4>	 HSJ: Will that cause a divide-by-zero error? :P
[05:02:31] <FastLizard4>	 p858snake|l: Thanks :)
[05:02:38] <p858snake|l>	 FastLizard4: hsj was talking about withdrawing your request
[05:03:23] <FastLizard4>	 p858snake|l: I know, but that was the wittiest response I could think of :P
[05:03:51] <HSJ>	 FastLizard4: If the rights are again multiplied by 0 :P
[05:10:40] <Nemo_bis>	 DanielFriesen: it's about someone taking the responsibility to judge those systems ;) someone with experience
[05:11:35] <DanielFriesen>	 Nemo_bis: ;) we have quotes from mailing lists elsewhere on the wiki
[05:18:57] <digipikseli>	 hello
[05:19:34] <digipikseli>	 how can i edit toolbar where is shown: Page, Edit, History etc.
[05:23:15] <Nemo_bis>	 digipikseli: those are called tabs, not toolbar
[05:23:19] <Nemo_bis>	 usually
[05:23:24] <digipikseli>	 ;)
[05:23:35] <digipikseli>	 smells like big noob here :D
[05:23:56] <digipikseli>	 okay, so those tab, where should i head to editing those
[05:24:08] <Nemo_bis>	 not knowing jargon can sometimes make you feel speaking to deaf indeed
[05:24:32] <Nemo_bis>	 DanielFriesen: so do you think that whole section about IP blacklisting contains only bad advice, or can I save something?
[05:24:46] <DanielFriesen>	 Havent read it recently
[05:24:58] <Nemo_bis>	 wikiapiary.com had a very bad experience with those lists, multiple seconds to save an edit and no great spam reductions
[05:25:40] <Nemo_bis>	 surely one needs a lot of CPU to use those lists of IPs, unless there's some magic to make them more efficient
[05:29:31] <digipikseli>	 #ca-talk { display:none!important; }
[05:29:38] <digipikseli>	 tried that to common.css
[05:29:43] <digipikseli>	 nothing happened :/
[05:30:37] <DanielFriesen>	 Nemo_bis:  Well not CPU, likely network time.
[05:31:43] <Nemo_bis>	 DanielFriesen: for them it was CPU
[05:32:27] <Nemo_bis>	 http://pub2.thingelstad.com/munin/thingelstad.com/pub2.thingelstad.com/cpu.html
[05:32:42] <Nemo_bis>	 or at least I think http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/File:WikiApiary_API_Response_Time_20130519.jpg
[05:36:26] <digipikseli>	 nobody help with tabs?
[05:39:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10Nemo)
[05:43:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) &action=purge yields "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.41)" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43331  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[06:04:19] <Steveholt>	 Reedy, what are you doing up there?
[06:58:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ForeignDBRepo conflicts with $wgSharedDB / $wgSharedTables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48819  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[07:01:05] <digipikseli>	 any help wit editing tabs?
[07:01:10] <digipikseli>	 anybody ;)
[07:01:24] <Susan>	 Just ask your question.
[07:01:33] <Susan>	 Though it's a particularly quiet time in the channel.
[07:03:51] <digipikseli>	 how can i edit tabs, such as Edit, History, Delete, Move
[07:04:45] <Susan>	 Edit how?
[07:05:40] <digipikseli>	 i want replace those with menulinks, cause my theme
[07:05:56] <digipikseli>	 http://www.digipikseli.fi/Battlefield_4/Battlefield_4
[07:06:23] <digipikseli>	 there is example those "Sivu, Keskustelu, Lähdekoodi, Historia"
[07:07:01] <digipikseli>	 want replace those what u can find from bottom Main Page, Aseet, Ajoneuvot etc.
[07:07:13] <Susan>	 You can just do that with CSS, I imagine.
[07:07:15] <Susan>	 !css
[07:07:16] <wm-bot>	 To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Vector.css is for the Vector skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration>
[07:07:25] <Susan>	 The HTML structure you can probably leave alone.
[07:07:30] <Susan>	 If I understand you correctly.
[07:07:33] <Susan>	 Where's your wiki?
[07:08:09] <Susan>	 Hmm. I should sleep.
[07:13:00] <digipikseli>	 Susan: http://www.digipikseli.fi/Battlefield_4/Battlefield_4
[07:17:32] <Wikinaut>	 Hello, what can be the reason for a debug file message "DatabaseBase::commit: Explicit commit of implicit transaction. Something may be out of sync! [Called from DatabaseBase::commit /includes/db/Database.php at line 3119]"
[07:18:43] <valhallasw>	 Wikinaut: a 'commit transaction' without corresponding 'start transaction', I imagine
[07:19:19] <valhallasw>	 so the code path that starts the transaction isn't run, while the path that commits it is run, for example
[07:19:43] <Aaron|home>	 more like BEGIN followed by another BEGIN
[07:19:56] <Aaron|home>	 which commits the first one since they don't nest
[07:20:24] <Wikinaut>	 hmmm, I use standard wf calls
[07:20:47] <Wikinaut>	 currently I work on extension AJAXPoll
[07:21:46] <Wikinaut>	 can you see soemthing wrong here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/AJAXPoll.git;a=blob;f=AJAXPoll_body.php;h=c0217f69f5c5a949d2ccfc767a4489217de23573;hb=HEAD
[07:21:56] <Wikinaut>	 (just to make clear: it does work)
[07:21:58] <valhallasw>	 Aaron|home: then the error message is extra confusing, as it speaks of an *explicit* commit of an *implicit* transaction, instead of an *implicit* commit of an *explicit* transaction...
[07:22:33] <Wikinaut>	 valhallasw: yes, this is what I also think should be correct
[07:22:37] <Wikinaut>	 corrected
[07:22:41] <Wikinaut>	 perhaps...
[07:23:36] <Wikinaut>	 the message comes after an "UPDATE" which perhaps counts as two statements ??
[07:23:49] <Aaron|home>	 valhallasw: no, you're right
[07:23:57] <valhallasw>	 Wikinaut: you don't open a transaction in submitVote
[07:23:58] <Aaron|home>	 I misread that
[07:24:12] <Wikinaut>	 Aaron: what do I have to add ?
[07:24:51] <valhallasw>	 $dbw->begin( __METHOD__ );, i presume. I'm not that into mediawiki, though :-)
[07:29:07] <Wikinaut>	 it is mentioned here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access#Lock_contention
[07:29:41] <Wikinaut>	 should be perhaps moved to the introduction part of that manual page
[07:31:45] <Aaron|home>	 yeah, in submitVote()
[07:31:58] <Aaron|home>	 missing begin()
[07:36:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Oracle EZconnect, if supported, conflicts with error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41063  +comment (10freak)
[07:37:21] <Wikinaut>	 Aaron: fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65491/
[07:41:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Android] Enable Native RTL support in Android 4.2+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45729  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[07:58:10] <digipikseli>	 what file should i edit, if i want do something to tabs
[07:58:24] <digipikseli>	 something from skin?
[08:01:20] <valhallasw>	 is there a reason the creation of a page in cat namespace does not mean an entry in the category table is created?
[08:01:54] <brion>	 valhallasw: probably not a good reason :)(
[08:03:34] * YuviPanda  waves at brion

[08:03:45] <brion>	 hey YuviPanda what's up
[08:03:47] <YuviPanda>	 i'm at a hackathon too :D
[08:03:51] <brion>	 yay
[08:03:52] <YuviPanda>	 clearing up GitHub -> Gerrit thing
[08:03:57] <brion>	 awesome
[08:03:59] <YuviPanda>	 and also teaching one guy Lua
[08:04:01] <YuviPanda>	 for Tamil Wikipedia
[08:04:03] <brion>	 I'm gonna have to play with that more
[08:04:11] <YuviPanda>	 and also teaching a bunch of guys Android stuff
[08:04:15] <brion>	 i think i'm going to get suckered into doing more code review with this new arch stuff :)
[08:04:16] <YuviPanda>	 brion: 'that' -> Lua or GitHub -> Gerrit?
[08:04:24] <YuviPanda>	 brion: mmm nice! saw the email
[08:04:24] <brion>	 both :D
[08:04:31] <YuviPanda>	 aha! :)
[08:04:47] <YuviPanda>	 brion: you using the GitHub thing would be a major signal of its acceptance, y'know :P
[08:04:47] <brion>	 some folks interested in lua code completion in the code editor widget
[08:04:49] <brion>	 i might play with that
[08:04:50] <brion>	 yes :D
[08:05:12] <YuviPanda>	 brion: also, unicode support in codeeditor is horrible
[08:05:27] <brion>	 yeah, it assumes fixed-width font which…. fails for some languages
[08:05:27] <YuviPanda>	 brion: it places cursor position by codepoint count rather than character count
[08:05:29] <brion>	 fails horribly
[08:05:31] <YuviPanda>	 yeah
[08:05:44] <YuviPanda>	 brion: CodeMirror has wonderful Unicode support
[08:05:46] <brion>	 fine for most code, but strings and comments need it
[08:05:56] <brion>	 ooooh i might try swapping it in in place of ace
[08:05:56] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yup, horrible
[08:06:17] <brion>	 do they have a code completion interface i can hook into?
[08:06:18] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yeah, and overall I find codemirror much nicer
[08:06:26] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yup!
[08:06:30] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I hooked that up at my last job
[08:06:33] <brion>	 looks lil eyes
[08:06:36] <brion>	 *looks like yes
[08:06:36] <YuviPanda>	 brion: we had word completion
[08:06:39] <brion>	 nice
[08:06:42] <YuviPanda>	 brion: http://codemirror.net/
[08:06:49] <YuviPanda>	 brion: http://codemirror.net/demo/complete.html autocomplete
[08:07:05] <YuviPanda>	 brion: unicode kickass support http://codemirror.net/demo/bidi.html
[08:07:13] <YuviPanda>	 brion: it also has vim and emacs keybindings
[08:07:18] <brion>	 ugh
[08:07:25] <YuviPanda>	 brion: ugh at?
[08:07:28] <brion>	 ctrl+space opens code completion.. and a context menu at the same time
[08:07:37] <YuviPanda>	 brion: hmm? Not for me...
[08:07:39] <YuviPanda>	 just opens code completion
[08:07:42] <brion>	 firefox
[08:07:57] <YuviPanda>	 i'm sure that's something fixable
[08:08:09] <YuviPanda>	 brion: the dev is super responsive too
[08:08:11] <brion>	 likely yeah
[08:08:12] <brion>	 nice
[08:08:17] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I think I got one patch in it a couple of years ago too
[08:08:21] <YuviPanda>	 brion: and saw the bidi example?
[08:08:34] <brion>	 kit license, excellent
[08:08:36] <brion>	 O_Om oooooh
[08:08:38] <brion>	 *mit
[08:08:43] <brion>	 dam you autocorrect
[08:08:54] <YuviPanda>	 brion: he wrote a blog post about it (bidi) http://marijnhaverbeke.nl/blog/cursor-in-bidi-text.html
[08:09:04] <brion>	 *bookmark*
[08:09:13] <YuviPanda>	 brion: aharoni was so taken up with that type of dedicated support that he was trying to get all the VE folks to read it :)
[08:09:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Creating a page in category namespace does not insert row in category table. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48824 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[08:09:23] <valhallasw>	 there we go.
[08:09:33] <YuviPanda>	 brion: so yeah, using CodeMirror would be nice
[08:09:34] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[08:09:46] <brion>	 eeeexcellent
[08:10:00] <valhallasw>	 digipikseli: 10:05 < wikibugs_> (NEW) Creating a page in category namespace does not insert row in category table. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48824 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[08:10:01] <YuviPanda>	 brion: at a previous hackathon of mine one guy created a widget that used CodeMirror
[08:10:06] <valhallasw>	 dMaggot: ^
[08:10:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) moving page changes expiry of protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48825 normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; ()
[08:10:50] <brion>	 bidi == mirrored codemirror? ;)
[08:11:29] <freakolowsky>	 question ... when you backport stuff .. after cherry-picking, do you do a git push (as written in manual) or do you do a git review
[08:12:55] <brion>	 freakolowsky: …. i wanna say review, you're not supposed to bypass gerrit generally. but i don't back port direct to the wmf branches much so i could be wrong
[08:17:53] <YuviPanda>	 brion: bi directional text rendering + unicode and stuff
[08:18:23] <YuviPanda>	 brion: is there a bug for the font issue on code editor
[08:18:43] <brion>	 YuviPanda: that is assumes monospace? or sth else
[08:20:26] <freakolowsky>	 brion: yeah it's just a bit confusing to me ... i don't do this that often so i usualy lookup the manual where it says do a push ... i'm just wondering will it work if i do review ... don't want to bork something
[08:20:39] <YuviPanda>	 brion: assumes monospace
[08:21:32] * brion  looks

[08:21:43] <brion>	 freakolowsky: i'd use git review unless someone tells you otherwise :D
[08:21:53] <freakolowsky>	 10x
[08:22:11] <brion>	 YuviPanda: ok i don't see one, go ahead and file
[08:22:16] <YuviPanda>	 on it
[08:22:21] <brion>	 also file a 'port CodeEditor to use CodeMirror' and assign it to me :)
[08:22:32] <YuviPanda>	 wheee
[08:24:59] <brion>	 reminds me i need to try fiddling with visual editor on mobile
[08:25:12] <brion>	 i'm gonna be busy this summer :)
[08:25:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Port Code Editor to use CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; ()
[08:25:30] <YuviPanda>	 brion: what is your bugzilla url?
[08:25:42] <YuviPanda>	 err
[08:25:42] <YuviPanda>	 email
[08:25:49] <Wikinaut>	 brion: hi. greetings from Berlin
[08:25:51] <brion>	 brion@wikimedia.org
[08:25:53] * brion  waves

[08:26:04] <YuviPanda>	 brion: done
[08:26:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Port Code Editor to use CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826  (10Yuvi Panda)
[08:26:07] <Wikinaut>	 I guess your are in Amsterdam
[08:26:07] <brion>	 whee
[08:26:09] <brion>	 yep
[08:27:36] <freakolowsky>	 can somone just  check if this was done right: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65492/
[08:31:12] <Dominiol>	 hi, how I can get page without templates?
[08:31:25] <Skizzerz>	 huh?
[08:31:40] <Skizzerz>	 can you provide more context/explanation as to what you are trying to do?
[08:31:49] <brion>	 looks sane but i'm not 100% certain :)
[08:32:32] <Dominiol>	 i want write a bot - it will can load article
[08:32:36] <Dominiol>	 (sorry my poor english)
[08:33:46] <Dominiol>	 but it load "{{something}} {{something}} {{something}} Lorem ipsum..."
[08:33:58] <Dominiol>	 (PHP)
[08:34:26] <Skizzerz>	 if you are writing a bot, have you looked into the API? There are means of getting at the parsed wikitext of a page
[08:34:31] <Skizzerz>	 (e.g. all templates expanded)
[08:34:36] <Skizzerz>	 !api
[08:34:36] <wm-bot>	 The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API >. For client libraries in various languages, see < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code >.
[08:35:03] <Skizzerz>	 are you interested in the wikitext or html?
[08:35:09] <Skizzerz>	 I might be able to find the particular method
[08:35:57] <Dominiol>	 hmm...
[08:36:08] <Dominiol>	 only text
[08:36:11] <Dominiol>	 without html
[08:36:50] <Dominiol>	 and without ''', '', {{, }}
[08:36:53] <Skizzerz>	 if you're looking for wikitext but want to strip out all templates, you can make use of a regular expression replacement such as {{.*?}} and replace that with an empty string
[08:37:20] <Dominiol>	 ok, thanks, i will try it
[08:39:45] <Skizzerz>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Parsing_wikitext#expandtemplates this API method will expand {{templates}} into their respective wikitext
[08:39:50] <Skizzerz>	 if you want template content as well
[08:41:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Badge count is caching incorrect number upon new notification creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48821  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:43:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) On Dashboard, add column with reviewer/reviewcount - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48827 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[08:44:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:PageTranslation listing should be updated after discouraging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43993  +comment (10Nemo)
[08:44:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add Lua code-completion support to CodeEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48828 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; ()
[08:44:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Port Code Editor to use CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826  (10Brion Vibber)
[08:50:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:PageTranslation listing should be updated after discouraging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43993  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:55:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update repo on page move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36729  (10Marius Hoch)
[08:57:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AJAXPoll: add option to show poll results only for users who have voted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35119  (10T. Gries)
[08:57:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AJAXPoll: add option to show poll results only for users who have voted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35119  (10T. Gries)
[09:00:31] <Wikinaut>	 does someone know when Chris is available again ?
[09:00:45] <Wikinaut>	 for code review of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21986/
[09:01:09] <Wikinaut>	 I need this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/21986/
[09:01:56] <Wikinaut>	 of course, I cherry-picked that already
[09:02:47] <Wikinaut>	 it's important to fix any potential CSRF vuln for anons, too
[09:05:41] <Dominiol>	 Skizzerz: regexp {{.*?}} works, thanks
[09:05:59] <Dominiol>	 but how I can parse [[.*?]] ?
[09:06:50] <Dominiol>	 *can I
[09:10:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) test special pages SQL queries against supported Proprietary DBs (Oracle, MSSQL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33290  +comment (10Jure Kajzer)
[09:13:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:21:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CodeEditor: Migrate from Ace to CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826  summary (10Krinkle)
[09:21:41] <Krinkle>	 Dominiol: You need to escape [ and ] in regexes because those have special meaning in regexes
[09:21:48] <Krinkle>	 Dominiol: \[\[.*\]\]
[09:27:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CodeEditor: Migrate from Ace to CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826  +comment (10brion)
[09:31:31] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: Maybe you know: Is there an error icon I can use from core, so I don't need to find or create one myself and include it in an extension?
[09:35:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Android] When view icon is clicked immediately after upload, commons url lacks file extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45943  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[09:35:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Categories marked as not existing when copy/pasted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47052  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:49:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) html tag removal in edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[09:50:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Deglobalize Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38836  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[09:50:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) uls-trigger element not at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48831 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[09:51:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) uls-trigger element not at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48831   +browser-test-bug (10Željko Filipin)
[09:56:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Deglobalize Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38836  (10Siebrand)
[09:57:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User blocked from editing talk page still can edit IP talk page with his autoblocked IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48813  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:58:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	 RoanKattouw: damn, you interrupted my self merge!
[09:58:14] <RoanKattouw>	 haha
[09:58:18] <RoanKattouw>	 How did I interrupt it now?
[10:00:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The [close] link shouldn't be injected into HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48815  normal->minor (10Andre Klapper)
[10:01:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Revision query error during convertUserOptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48820  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:02:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:03:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RichTextEditor adds wrong sort key in the category tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48823  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:04:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Creating a page in category namespace does not insert row in category table. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48824  normal->major (10Andre Klapper)
[10:05:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Lua code-completion support to CodeEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48828  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:05:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ForeignDBRepo conflicts with $wgSharedDB / $wgSharedTables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48819   +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper)
[10:05:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CodeEditor: Migrate from Ace to CodeMirror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48826  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[10:05:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) On Dashboard, add column with reviewer/reviewcount - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48827  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[10:05:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Lua code-completion support to CodeEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48828  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:06:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AJAXPoll: add option to show poll results only for users who have voted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35119  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:06:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RichTextEditor adds wrong sort key in the category tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48823  +comment (10sam)
[10:08:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Browser language detection does not work at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48832 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[10:09:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Browser language detection does not work at en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48832   +browser-test-bug (10Željko Filipin)
[10:09:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error creating thumbnail: "Warning: File has insufficient data for an image." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48178  +comment (10email_metawiki_138)
[10:10:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Echo: Unstyled notifications badge flashed while page is loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48001  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[10:11:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error creating thumbnail: "Warning: File has insufficient data for an image." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48178  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:12:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove "import from wiki/URL" on Special:ImportTranslations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47823  (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:12:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove "import from wiki/URL" on Special:ImportTranslations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47823  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:14:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) moving page changes expiry of protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48825  normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:19:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10sam)
[10:22:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) createAndPromote.php: Change to allow promotion only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35623  +comment (10sam)
[10:24:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Language Settings garbled in IEs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48833 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; ()
[10:24:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Language Settings garbled in IEs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48833  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[10:25:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) All translation pages should get __NOEDITSECTION__ added automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40713  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:25:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) All translation pages should get __NOEDITSECTION__ added automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40713  (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:30:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10federicoleva)
[10:35:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10sam)
[10:36:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Language Settings garbled in IEs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48833  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[10:36:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) jquery.i18n does not work in Internet Explorer 8 and earlier versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45958  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[10:38:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Override the name of the Squid Proxy owner to something meaningful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18903  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[10:41:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10federicoleva)
[10:43:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866  +comment (10TMg)
[10:44:31] <pabs3>	 I've got a mediawiki instance that was severely spammed. I'd like to clean all the spam pages and spam accounts from the database. is there any extension that can permanently delete all pages created by users created with a date range?
[10:44:46] <pabs3>	 I tried Nuke but it just adds more stuff to the db in deletionlog
[10:46:51] <Wikinaut>	 What is the i10n "message" string to add a space (between two messages) ?
[10:47:17] <Wikinaut>	 for example., when I need to concatenate two
[10:47:20] <waldir>	 JeroenDeDauw, check it out: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Deprecation
[10:47:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) moving page changes expiry of protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48825  +comment (10nullzero.free)
[10:47:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:48:13] <Nemo_bis>	 pabs3: you can use nuke and then the maintenance script to delete the archive
[10:48:31] <Nemo_bis>	 deletion logs don't take that much space
[10:48:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 waldir: you want to use <syntaxhighlight lang="php"></syntaxhighlight>
[10:49:26] <waldir>	 JeroenDeDauw, I'm trying to see if it works for multiline code without breaking the ordered list
[10:50:19] <MatmaRex>	 waldir: you can use <syntaxhighlight enclose=none/>, i think
[10:50:42] <MatmaRex>	 (i haven't seen this documented anywhere, either, but i saw someone use it)
[10:50:46] <MatmaRex>	 i think it was Susan
[10:53:01] <waldir>	 I can't make it work for multiline code without breaking the ordered list. I'll remove the list, it's not a big deal
[10:53:15] <pabs3>	 Nemo_bis: ok. the reason I don't wante deletion logs is they clutter the RecentChanges
[10:53:28] <Nemo_bis>	 pabs3: make yourself bot
[10:53:38] <pabs3>	 bot?
[10:54:09] <Nemo_bis>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bot
[10:54:34] <pabs3>	 thanks
[10:54:45] <waldir>	 JeroenDeDauw, MatmaRex: I could make each line surrounded by syntaxhighlight tags with enclose=none, but then the multiline comment wouldn't be properly styled
[10:57:51] <waldir>	 done, without the numbered list: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Deprecation
[10:58:10] <waldir>	 JeroenDeDauw, but in general, is the example ok?
[10:58:28] <waldir>	 I also redirected [[wfDeprecated]] there :)
[10:58:44] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Yeah sure
[11:01:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Warning on page deletion if page is linked to (Special:Whatlinkshere) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35485  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:02:12] <Minoa>	 I wish to post a question. I have an active wiki that has rewrite rules, but the thumbnails are not rendering locally. My rewrite code: https://dpaste.de/8reVb/
[11:02:40] <Minoa>	 Wiki location: (domain name)/w
[11:05:25] <Minoa>	 For reference: actual wiki installation location: (domain name)/w - intended string: (domain name)/nationstates/(article)
[11:06:57] <waldir>	 hey, can anyone do a quick review? just a renamed internal variable in the installer code, for clarity: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65554/
[11:12:30] <Minoa>	 waldir, yup, no problems. Just make sure the variables remain consistent like always ;-)
[11:13:32] <waldir>	 Minoa, what do you mean?
[11:15:57] <Minoa>	 If one forgets to change the variable in a part of the code then it would cause problems. This has happened to me before
[11:18:34] <waldir>	 Minoa yeah, I searched the code base and replaced it everywhere it appeared
[11:18:50] <Minoa>	 Perfect.
[11:19:42] <waldir>	 but I assume you don't have a gerrit account, right?
[11:19:44] <Minoa>	 But I do have problems with images not showing in my wiki: http://amaroussi.com/nationstates/Simtropian_Identity_Database#Identity_cards
[11:20:04] <Minoa>	 I'm new to this, but I use MediaWiki myself.
[11:20:24] <waldir>	 ok, because I was actually asking for reviews in gerrit itself ;)
[11:20:29] <waldir>	 but thanks for looking at it
[11:21:00] <waldir>	 as for the images thing, I've seen the problem before, but I don't know how to solve it, sorry
[11:21:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10jamie)
[11:23:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10jamie)
[11:23:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  (10Jamie Thingelstad)
[11:25:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Language Settings garbled in IEs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48833   +browser-test-bug (10Chris McMahon)
[11:31:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 critical; MediaWiki extensions: PdfHandler; ()
[11:33:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10federicoleva)
[11:34:15] <jarry1250_>	 AaronSchulz: Can you tell me if I'm invoking fileExists() correctly in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65458/1/SVGFormatWriter.php
[11:35:02] <jarry1250_>	 It seems to be functionally correct on Labs, not sure about production setups though
[11:37:08] <pabs3>	 is there any way I can add Special:Nuke links to the RecentChanges page?
[11:38:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.ui using MediaWiki 1.21.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48822  +comment (10jamie)
[11:39:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Reference serialization doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48808  (10ssastry)
[11:42:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The resizer image in the unit translation dialog must be mirrored when translating to RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[11:46:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) createAndPromote.php: Change to allow promotion only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35623  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[11:49:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Override the name of the Squid Proxy owner to something meaningful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18903  +comment (10tstarling)
[11:50:27] <BigKing>	 Hi, someone able to help on a german site... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:WikiEditor/de
[11:51:11] <BigKing>	 installation of WikiEditor/de runs without Problems, but dont Work on the wikisite :( and i dont have found a reason
[11:52:48] <BigKing>	 another question: am i able to delete all of the files starting on the root of the server... but i dont want to delete the mysql-data
[11:53:12] <Reedy>	 you'll want to keep images if you have uploaded anything
[11:53:13] <BigKing>	 and then, i could install / copy a new blank version of mediawiki on it / the root of the webserver
[11:54:10] <BigKing>	 and the written-texts ... they are delete or they will display again, after new copying mediawiki on the webserver?
[11:55:28] <Reedy>	 they're stored in the database
[11:55:47] <Reedy>	 you can use the same database with a wiki in another location
[11:55:59] <Reedy>	 you could just move the whole directories as is
[11:57:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=extensions should print extension last commit information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48418  +comment (10jamie)
[11:58:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Separate Cache-Control header for proxy and client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48835 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[12:02:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Separate Cache-Control header for proxy and client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48835   +platformeng (10Tim Starling)
[12:04:28] <BigKing>	 Reedy, ok, i understand you in this way: i make a backup of my old mediawiki-Installation... then i delete the files (without the backup)
[12:04:40] <BigKing>	 the i install the mediawiki again (fresh, new, blank)
[12:05:05] <BigKing>	 and i changed the LocalSettings.php so that i connect the wiki to the old mysql-Database?
[12:05:09] <BigKing>	 is it right?
[12:05:25] <BigKing>	 and the old text is display again... reade ;) OK?
[12:07:38] <Reedy>	 Yup
[12:07:42] <Reedy>	 sounds about right
[12:17:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Missing hover-in event causes inconsistent display in stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36692  (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:17:37] <Minoa>	 Can anyone else help me with the rendering of images on my wiki after changing to short urls?
[12:18:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Missing hover-in event causes inconsistent display in stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36692  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:24:02] <Minoa>	 I recently changed to short URLs but images uploaded to my Wiki are not working properly. images from the commons are working, though.
[12:24:29] <Minoa>	 Images uploaded directly to my are only showing as links.
[12:24:37] <Minoa>	 to my wiki, I mean.
[12:27:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[12:29:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; ()
[12:30:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:32:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki)
[12:33:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Revision links in BugZilla comments should not be linked half-way words. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29039  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:39:13] <p858snake>	 TimStarling: nice bug comment <3
[12:41:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Override the name of the Squid Proxy owner to something meaningful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18903  +comment (10p858snake)
[12:44:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Create branches in mediawiki/extensions/* for REL1_21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48837 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[12:46:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10dsvyas)
[12:49:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) mediawiki-vagrant virtual machine should be ready for running Selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46920  +comment (10Željko Filipin)
[12:49:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10aklapper)
[12:50:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10mah)
[12:53:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:54:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10jarry1250)
[13:04:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:13:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10Thehelpfulonewiki)
[13:24:15] <aharoni>	 Hallo. Are there any statistics about the most common things that people search for in Wikipedia? Or is it considered private? I can't find it on stats.wikimedia.org.
[13:25:20] <Nikerabbit>	 aharoni: those are not public if they exist
[13:30:02] <parent5446>	 Is it yet known that VisualEditor won't work with <source> tags on MW.org?
[13:31:36] <marktraceur>	 parent5446: That's definitely a known issue
[13:31:47] <parent5446>	 OK, I figured. Just wanted to make sure.
[13:32:06] <MatmaRex>	 !bug :visualeditor source
[13:32:06] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3avisualeditor+source
[13:32:19] <MatmaRex>	 hmm
[13:32:20] <MatmaRex>	 !bug  ALL:visualeditor source
[13:32:21] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=+ALL%3avisualeditor+source
[13:38:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [TwnMainPage] Special:MainPage looks horrible and unusable without javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48155  (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:48:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search is not cleared after language selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48151  (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:49:53] <jarry1250_>	 DanielK_WMDE__ : I have a vaguely ContentHandler related question, apparently you might be able to help?
[13:53:38] <pabs3>	 if I delete some accounts using maintenance/removeUnusedAccounts.php, how can I remove mention of those accounts from recentchanges?
[13:54:28] <jarry1250_>	 pabs3: It's the recentchanges table, don't know if there's a script
[13:54:55] <parent5446>	 pabs3: The script should do it for you. It removes mentions in both logging and recentchanges.
[13:57:04] <pabs3>	 hmm, ok. the record count didn't seem to go down afterwards
[13:59:39] <p858snake>	 pabs3: if they are unused accounts, they shouldn't be in recentchanges apart from the creationlogs...
[13:59:44] <p858snake>	 and does that really matter?
[14:00:25] <pabs3>	 I'm trying to get rid of the spam from the wiki, want to get rid of it from recentchanges too
[14:01:00] <pabs3>	 I'll figure out some SQL
[14:01:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make it possible for specific non-admin Bugzilla users to hide specific Bugzilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48836  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:02:00] <Reedy>	 truncate it?
[14:02:37] <p858snake>	 we could probably just fix the script to handle it in the future
[14:03:01] <pabs3>	 that would be useful
[14:03:03] <p858snake>	 !e User_Merge_and_Delete | pabs3
[14:03:03] <wm-bot>	 pabs3: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete
[14:03:11] <p858snake>	 is probably a better solution in the future
[14:03:23] <pabs3>	 Reedy: no can do, legit edits in there too
[14:03:44] <Reedy>	 And you really need the recent changes history?
[14:03:46] <Reedy>	 You can rebuild it
[14:04:48] <pabs3>	 I wasn't aware that was possible? so it only contains a cache of other data?
[14:06:17] <p858snake>	 Anything is possible when you have the imagination, if you can be bothered to do it is another issue
[14:07:58] <pabs3>	 well, I mean is there a ready-made script to rebuild it?
[14:11:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Semantic Forms sfautoedit (and #autoedit) broken in 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48838 major; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; ()
[14:11:36] <Amir1>	 http://www.tools-webserver-01.com/wikitest-rtl/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
[14:11:43] <Amir1>	 can somebody check this
[14:11:45] <Amir1>	 ?
[14:11:50] <Amir1>	 is it working?
[14:11:55] <marktraceur>	 No
[14:12:25] <Amir1>	 marktraceur: Are you talking with me
[14:12:26] <Amir1>	 ?
[14:12:35] <marktraceur>	 Yes
[14:12:43] <Amir1>	 how can find out where is the problem
[14:12:48] <Amir1>	 I just installed that
[14:12:49] <marktraceur>	 Amir1: That domain name isn't registered, so it's pretty unlikely that it'll work
[14:13:05] <marktraceur>	 http://whois.domaintools.com/tools-webserver-01.com
[14:13:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
[14:13:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement <section> natively in Parsoid, possibly as plain HTML5 content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47936  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[14:13:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <section> tag name collides with HTML 5 <section> tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30597  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[14:13:41] <Amir1>	 OK
[14:14:02] <Vulpix>	 pabs3: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Rebuildrecentchanges.php
[14:14:51] <Amir1>	 why this is redirect to this? tools.wmflabs.org/wikitest-rtl/w/ to http://www.tools-webserver-01.com/wikitest-rtl/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
[14:15:20] <valhallasw>	 Amir1: because your LocalSettings.php defines an incorrect server address
[14:16:12] <Amir1>	 ok
[14:16:50] <Vulpix>	 http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitest-rtl/w/index.php?title=Special:Version
[14:17:02] <Vulpix>	 indeed, it's a $wgServer issue
[14:17:10] <Minoa>	 Can anyone else help me with the rendering of images on my wiki after changing to short urls? I recently changed to short URLs but images uploaded to my Wiki are not working properly. images from the commons are working, though. Images uploaded directly to my website are only showing as links. Is this because I need ImageMagick, and which version is suitable for a Linux Apache server if...
[14:17:12] <Minoa>	 ...that's the case? Also, how does Wikipedia manage to render SVGs?
[14:17:26] <Amir1>	 valhallasw: I think so
[14:17:30] <Amir1>	 let me check
[14:18:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Display notification when disabling input methods from keyboard icon menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48534  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:18:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Etherpad lite unusable at about 1000 lines or more (CPU load makes it lag) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46637  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[14:19:02] <Amir1>	 valhallasw: is it correct?$wgServer = "http://tools.wmflabs.org";
[14:19:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:19:58] <Amir1>	 valhallasw: is it correct?$wgServer = "http://tools.wmflabs.org";
[14:20:08] <Amir1>	 sorry i've sent that
[14:20:19] <Amir1>	 I thought I didn't
[14:20:49] <marktraceur>	 andre__: re bug 46637 you should probably put me on the default CC for etherpad
[14:21:17] <marktraceur>	 Or maybe that already happened and I forgot
[14:21:29] <Amir1>	 valhallasw: never mind It wokred
[14:21:53] <andre__>	 marktraceur, alright, done now
[14:22:07] <marktraceur>	 Huzzah
[14:22:49] <Vulpix>	 Minoa: is your wiki public?
[14:23:01] <Minoa>	 yes.
[14:23:31] <Minoa>	 Example of problem: http://amaroussi.com/nationstates/File:Flag_of_Minoa.svg
[14:24:50] <Minoa>	 Another example of non-rendering of locally-uploaded file: http://amaroussi.com/nationstates/Minoa
[14:24:58] <Minoa>	 If it worked, the flag would show.
[14:26:22] <Minoa>	 The same applied to transcluded PNGs as well: http://amaroussi.com/nationstates/Simtropian_Identity_Database#Identity_cards
[14:28:17] <Vulpix>	 Minoa: did you followed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache ?
[14:29:20] <Minoa>	 My htaccess code: https://dpaste.de/8HJkF/raw/
[14:29:50] <Minoa>	 For reference: actual wiki installation location: (domain name)/w - intended string: (domain name)/nationstates/(article)
[14:36:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) moving page changes expiry of protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48825  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[14:36:17] <Vulpix>	 thumb generation script works http://amaroussi.com/w/thumb.php?f=Simtropian_ID_Cards.png&width=250
[14:38:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798  +comment (10dsvyas)
[14:39:06] <Vulpix>	 Minoa: you should check apache server error/access logs to see what physical path is trying to get here: http://amaroussi.com/w/images/thumb/d/dc/Simtropian_ID_Cards.png/250px-Simtropian_ID_Cards.png
[14:44:48] <Minoa>	 It looks like the script isn't activating automatically.
[14:46:19] <Minoa>	 If the images redirect properly then it is likely that the script isn't running automatically.
[14:47:15] <Minoa>	 Dpaste: https://dpaste.de/KuQAR/raw/ - Am I slipping up somewhere?
[14:51:40] <Vulpix>	 the thumb script is working, so it seems a problem with rewrite rules, although I can't see any issue with the rewrite rules you posted
[14:53:43] <Vulpix>	 Minoa: does the thumbnail file actually exist on the server?
[14:54:06] <Vulpix>	 for instance, images/thumb/d/dc/Simtropian_ID_Cards.png/250px-Simtropian_ID_Cards.png
[14:55:11] <Minoa>	 Yes, all I did was change to $wgGenerateThumbnailOnParse = true
[14:55:25] <Minoa>	 Unfortunately that solution doesn't seem to be  documented.
[14:55:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Unlocking the Pashto wikibooks project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48839 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Tasks; ()
[14:56:18] <Vulpix>	 !wg GenerateThumbnailOnParse
[14:56:18] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGenerateThumbnailOnParse
[14:57:21] <Minoa>	 Thanks, at least it's nice to discuss my project with a person online.
[14:59:28] <Vulpix>	 Well, the last I can think of is to enable the debug log of RewriteRules to see if they're doing anything
[15:00:28] <Minoa>	 They were not reporting any errors.
[15:02:05] <reddo_>	 Hi, I'm having a problem installing 1.21
[15:02:47] <reddo_>	 after i upload the files I go to run update.php and the script fails asking if i ran update.php after upgrading
[15:02:57] <Prodi>	 are you using checkuser?
[15:03:53] <Krenair>	 copy the error from wikimedia-tech reddo_ 
[15:04:07] <reddo_>	 [ps126442]$ php update.php A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading?  See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script Query: SELECT  page_id,page_len,page_is_redirect,page_latest,page_content_model  FROM `page`  WHERE page_namespace = '0' AND page_title = 'UNTITLED'  LIMIT 1 Function: LinkCache::addLinkObj Error: 1054 Unknown column 'page_content_model'
[15:04:20] <Krenair>	 What database type are you using? mysql?
[15:04:31] <reddo_>	 yeah mysql
[15:05:21] <Prodi>	 i had the same problem, and fixed it by commenting out all my extensions in localsettings.php
[15:06:16] <reddo_>	 okay thanks Prondi I'll try that when I get home later today
[15:06:36] <Prodi>	 good luck!
[15:06:52] <Prodi>	 i noticed that the tests directory is missing now
[15:07:25] <Prodi>	 is that by design?
[15:09:29] <Vulpix>	 probably, tests are only useful for developers, not for people installing MediaWiki on production servers
[15:11:01] <Prodi>	 that's what I was thinking too
[15:19:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unlocking the Pashto wikibooks project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48839  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[15:20:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unlocking the Pashto wikibooks project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48839  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[15:23:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable "Proofread Page extension" on Thai Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48314  +comment (10sam)
[15:27:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable "Proofread Page extension" on Thai Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48314  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:30:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Support editing of image and thumbnail options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46576  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:30:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Recent Changes - clicking on the verification link it loads a new page to confirm the execution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48074  +comment (10andyrom75)
[15:37:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) New parameter $smwgAdminSetupStore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48840 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[15:38:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable "Proofread Page extension" on Thai Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48314  (10taweethaも)
[15:39:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable "Proofread Page extension" on Thai Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48314  +comment (10nullzero.free)
[15:49:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Move setup of fixed properties to LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48841 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[15:50:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Move setup of fixed properties to LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48841  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[15:54:57] <Prodi>	 what's the difference between the readme and readme.MEDIAWIKI file?
[15:58:04] <Prodi>	 oh I see, a github hack
[16:02:35] <Krenair>	 Prodi, .mediawiki is just a symlink
[16:03:13] <Krenair>	 Our readme uses wikitext format so we can use the .mediawiki extension to make github parse it on https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core
[16:13:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikipedia shows "add links" when a Wikidata item already exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47866  +comment (10maps)
[16:15:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Move setup of fixed properties to LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48841  +comment (10Jamie Thingelstad)
[16:16:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Impossible to add interwiki links if the article has none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48842 critical; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[16:31:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[16:31:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843  (10Bohdan)
[16:35:21] <Base-w>	 hm
[16:35:40] <Base-w>	 why one time it uses email and other name?
[16:35:54] <Base-w>	 i mean wikibugs_ in brackets
[16:40:17] <Vulpix>	 Base-w: Because it parses the contents of the emails sent when any bug changes, and it seems it has problems determining what to pick, or the information is inconsistent for different actions
[16:44:59] <Krenair>	 Base-w, there's a bug for this somewhere
[16:47:25] <Base-w>	 it sounds a bit funny (bugs with bugs :) ) but thanks for answers :)
[16:47:46] <Krenair>	 yep
[16:48:00] <Krenair>	 there's a component in bugzilla for bugzilla bugs
[16:55:37] <Susan>	 Krenair: Inception!
[17:08:16] <orangey>	 hi all!
[17:08:21] <orangey>	 How can I nuke many, many users?
[17:08:31] <orangey>	 e.g., everybody who made an account over the past 6 months or such?
[17:08:40] <Jasper_Deng>	 what do you want to do w/ them?
[17:08:55] <Jasper_Deng>	 we can't delete accounts
[17:09:13] <Jasper_Deng>	 (or rather, even w/ Extension:User Merge and Delete, it's not desirable)
[17:09:40] <orangey>	 Jasper_Deng: they're obviously spam
[17:10:53] <Jasper_Deng>	 I guess that extension I pointed out is probably best for you
[17:11:27] * DanielFriesen  must resist the urge to create a spamdelete extension.

[17:11:40] <orangey>	 DanielFriesen: why?
[17:12:03] <DanielFriesen>	 orangey: ;) Cause I get way to many ideas...
[17:12:36] * DanielFriesen  goes to add that one to his black hole

[17:13:46] <Nemo_bis>	 aharoni: there were requests for such a thing, especially by Wiktionaries and by "small Wikipedias" for a translation suggestion feature, but nothing exists
[17:14:22] <Nemo_bis>	 DanielFriesen: that is, bugzilla? :p
[17:14:29] <aharoni>	 Nemo_bis: do you know why? privacy? technology constraints?
[17:14:46] <DanielFriesen>	 Nemo_bis: ;) no, my personal black hole https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dantman/Code_Ideas
[17:14:51] <Nemo_bis>	 :)
[17:15:08] <Nemo_bis>	 aharoni: probably, because nobody knew where to start with, so it's not clear who to ask even
[17:15:12] <Nemo_bis>	 is it a lucene thing?
[17:15:18] <Nemo_bis>	 a law problem to ask legals?
[17:15:20] <Nemo_bis>	 logs to ask ops?
[17:15:31] <Nemo_bis>	 something to implement in MediaWiki?
[17:15:58] <Nemo_bis>	 people had different opinions across the years and asked different things with equal unsuccess
[17:17:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error after installation when using LocalisationUpdate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46885  +comment (10Nemo)
[17:18:58] <aharoni>	 Nemo_bis: are you aware of a reported bug?
[17:20:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Etherpad lite unusable at about 1000 lines or more (CPU load makes it lag) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46637  +comment (10federicoleva)
[17:21:11] <Nemo_bis>	 aharoni: afaik there are many
[17:21:31] <Nemo_bis>	 but now time for dinner
[17:21:59] <DarsVaeda>	 where do I find a development plan, if there is any?
[17:26:28] <Vulpix>	 DarsVaeda: maybe you're lookin for this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap
[17:29:46] <DarsVaeda>	 Vulpix, that's a good start thanks
[17:32:52] <DanielFriesen>	 There seem to currently be 95 items sacrificed to me within my black hole
[17:39:58] <orangey>	 Does Nuke have some kind of limit? It seems to only go back ~ 90 days
[17:40:23] <orangey>	 Also, how do I delete a page with a title like this:  Noclegi Rzesz�w
[17:41:34] <Vulpix>	 orangey: Nuke reads from recentchanges table, which (guess what) only keeps "recent" activity :)
[17:42:54] <Vulpix>	 you can try finding that page in Special:AllPages
[17:46:20] <Hammond96>	 Hey, i have a problem, i had install the extenion "AbuseFilter" but then i had in my wiki a database error on the Last modified that the database query is hidden. What can i do?
[17:48:02] <orangey>	 Vulpix: heh
[17:48:07] <Vulpix>	 Hammond96: did you run the update.php maintenance script after installing AbuseFilter?
[17:48:18] <orangey>	 Vulpix: my issue is that I'm trying to clean months worth of this stuff..
[17:48:37] <Hammond96>	 no i can't. Musst i?
[17:49:03] <orangey>	 Vulpix: that strategy fails. I find the page, but when I click through, it appears to convert the URL and fails to find the page
[17:49:19] <Vulpix>	 Hammond96: yes
[17:49:25] <Vulpix>	 !update.php | Hammond96 
[17:49:25] <wm-bot>	 Hammond96: update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script>
[17:49:45] <Hammond96>	 Ok i see what i can do
[17:51:16] <Vulpix>	 orangey: for the odd title, you could change the title on the the page table (page_title) to something more readable http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_table
[17:51:37] <orangey>	 Vulpix: will do
[17:51:47] <orangey>	 man. I should not have abandoned this wiki for a year..
[17:52:32] <Vulpix>	 orangey: about the mass spam, you could extract all titles of the pages you want to delete, and use the nukePage script for each title http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NukePage.php
[17:53:02] <orangey>	 What's a good way to get just a list of titles?
[17:54:19] <Vulpix>	 query the page table directly
[17:55:27] <Vulpix>	 or maybe use Special:NewPages or the API, to get recently added pages (not sure if you'll get all, or all namespaces)
[17:59:47] <Hammond96>	 Vulpix, there ist no a update.php
[17:59:54] <Hammond96>	 we hav only a UPGRADE 
[18:00:08] <Hammond96>	 and that ist not whit .php
[18:00:33] <Vulpix>	 Hammond96: it's a maintenance script. It should be in the ./maintenance folder
[18:00:55] <Hammond96>	 yes i know
[18:01:01] <digipikslei>	 can i somehow add more tabs next to Edit, History, Source etc.
[18:01:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817  summary; +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[18:03:03] <Hammond96>	 oh there
[18:03:08] <orangey>	 Vulpix: looking
[18:03:16] <orangey>	 Vulpix: I've already deleted with nuke ~ 20000 pages
[18:03:29] <digipikslei>	 Vulpix: do u know ansfer to my question?
[18:04:19] <Vulpix>	 digipikslei: I know how to do that with JavaScript. If you mean adding it through PHP with an extension, sorry, I don't know
[18:05:40] <Hammond96>	 Vulpix, i had done it with putty
[18:06:03] <digipikslei>	 Vulpix: can i replace with js all tabs if i want?
[18:06:26] <Vulpix>	 Hammond96: look at the maintenance folder. It should be there. The UPGRADE file is on the installation root, not in maintenance
[18:06:44] <Hammond96>	 Yes i had done the update.php
[18:07:06] <Vulpix>	 digipikslei: yes
[18:07:32] <digipikslei>	 Vulpix: then im intrested. is it big job to do?
[18:07:56] <Vulpix>	 digipikslei: if you know JS, it's pretty easy
[18:08:54] <digipikslei>	 have to tell, i dont :(
[18:09:54] <digipikslei>	 maybe i try something else... but what :D
[18:12:23] <Vulpix>	 digipikslei: you can search for that, it's not the first time that question was asked. An example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Add_Custom_Tab_or_Tabs_to_Vector_Skin
[18:16:12] <Krenair>	 wtf, suddenly php is failing to allocate memory and segfaulting when I try to save pages in mediawiki
[18:20:04] <Vulpix>	 MediaWiki is a big monster that needs a lot of memory to run
[18:26:06] <Krenair>	 Looks like an apache restart fixed it...
[18:29:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:30:51] <Gika>	 how do i debug runtime errors in lua modules?
[18:31:15] <Gika>	 oh nevermind, clicking "script error" returns a backtrace
[18:39:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Semantic Forms sfautoedit (and #autoedit) broken in 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48838  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[18:42:20] <orangey>	 Vulpix: I just deleted 43000 users from the users table
[18:42:31] <orangey>	 Vulpix: 5 real users.. > 45000 fakes.
[18:42:31] <orangey>	 wow.
[18:43:15] <matroc_>	 That is a lot of fakes!
[18:43:27] <orangey>	 a year's worth of neglect..
[18:43:48] <orangey>	 Now I'm curious how to get rid of all of these damned spam pages
[18:44:23] <Vulpix>	 an open wiki without spam protection is subject to those attacks. That's the problem of becoming a popular software
[18:45:09] <orangey>	 yep
[18:46:16] <DanielFriesen>	 Vulpix: Well, strictly speaking there are some basic bots out there that'll also be able to spam any simple system no matter how unpopular.
[18:46:54] <DanielFriesen>	 Though that's what SimpleAntiSpam is for
[18:47:06] <DanielFriesen>	 ...I still wonder if we should integrate that component into core.
[18:47:37] <DanielFriesen>	 The only reason not to I can think of is that it's useless for private/invite-only wikis.
[18:47:52] <Vulpix>	 yeah, but there are many bots out there able to create a new account and edit through thousands of accounts, as orangey suffered. That's not a basic bot ;)
[18:48:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[18:48:09] <Vulpix>	 and has to be explicitly created to target MediaWiki
[18:48:22] <matroc_>	 Never had to remove but a few spam pages - did that by hand so it wasn't bad... what direction to take for thousands is another matter ... maybe dump the good stuff and rebuild?
[18:48:56] <DanielFriesen>	 Vulpix: Yes and no. Some simple bots understand the concept of text field + password field + password field = registration form
[18:50:43] <Vulpix>	 well, if you call that "simple bots", I can't imagine what a sophisticated bot could do
[18:51:21] <DanielFriesen>	 Vulpix: "simple bot" in this topic = bots not programmed specifically to target a software.
[18:51:26] <Vulpix>	 ...build an entire Wikipedia with goood quality edits maybe?
[18:52:45] <orangey>	 Vulpix: I actually thought I locked down the system by requiring registered users to edit, requiring confirmed emails, etc.
[18:53:05] <orangey>	 Vulpix: but, given a year, it was obviously no problem.
[18:53:14] <orangey>	 Vulpix: also, many if not most of those bots came back several times
[18:53:20] <orangey>	 it was fascinating watching their work.
[18:53:29] <DanielFriesen>	 ;) No, a 'sophisticated bot' targeted to MW will register, correctly answer CAPTCHAS, use proxies, comprehend WikiText, upload images and use them on spam pages, wait until they get autoconfirmed rights, confirm their email addresses, and when they get an AbuseFilter warning will click through saying it's ok.
[18:53:35] <DanielFriesen>	 Vulpix: ^
[18:54:37] <Vulpix>	 confirming email addresses is also a simple task for a bot
[18:56:20] <Vulpix>	 hopefully, mailinator.com now imposes a restriction limit in how many emails it can receive from a specific address
[18:56:47] <DanielFriesen>	 Pft, like that'll stop anyone.
[18:57:13] <DanielFriesen>	 Setting up a mailserver is 100% trivial for a spammer.
[18:57:29] <Vulpix>	 uh, yeah, forgot that you can create lots of users with the same email address in MediaWiki
[18:57:48] <orangey>	 Oh crap.
[18:57:51] <matroc_>	 don't think it will stop anyone either... 
[18:57:52] <DanielFriesen>	 Just install a bit of crap on a compromised computer. And get a free subdomain.
[18:57:54] <orangey>	 deleting pages does not delete their text..
[18:58:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10Jack Phoenix)
[18:59:13] <orangey>	 hmmm. maybe this is where 'nukepages' would come in handy
[18:59:52] <KillerWalrus>	 orangey: Special:Newpages?limit=1000, and hand code some JS to delete via the API
[19:00:31] <orangey>	 KillerWalrus: I get some kind of error: from within function "IndexPager::buildQueryInfo (NewPagesPager)". Database returned error "1176: Key 'new_name_timestamp' doesn't exist in table 'recentchanges' (localhost)".
[19:01:00] <orangey>	 KillerWalrus: none of the things that need deleting are in recentchanges any more
[19:01:17] <KillerWalrus>	 Special:NewPages, not RC
[19:01:27] <KillerWalrus>	 But you could just Special:RecentChanges?days=9000
[19:01:48] <orangey>	 KillerWalrus: both NewPages and RecentChanges pull from the recentchanges table, as you can see from that error
[19:01:57] <orangey>	 currently, I've dealt with everything in there.
[19:03:08] <orangey>	 hm. doesn't make sense. There are no dates in the 'text' table.
[19:03:33] <Vulpix>	 orangey: dates are on revision table
[19:04:03] <Vulpix>	 along with the user that made the edit, and the page
[19:04:40] <orangey>	 sounds like I need a join in there..
[19:06:55] <Vulpix>	 indeed
[19:08:27] <orangey>	 so what exactly is the process?
[19:08:59] <orangey>	 When a change is made, a new revision is put in the revisions table, and all previous revisions for the 'old_id' get changed to the 'new_id'?
[19:09:42] <Vulpix>	 !db revision
[19:09:42] <wm-bot>	 See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:revision_table
[19:10:16] <Vulpix>	 orangey: no, the id's aren't updated
[19:10:58] <orangey>	 Then the 'text' table blows my mind.
[19:10:58] <Vulpix>	 the page table contains page_latest, which indicates what's the latest (actual) revision
[19:11:43] <orangey>	 I don't have a page_latest table - 1.20.6
[19:12:00] <orangey>	 oh
[19:12:04] <orangey>	 *page* table
[19:12:16] <orangey>	 aha
[19:12:26] <orangey>	 so, page_latest > revision > text ?
[19:13:33] <Vulpix>	 yes, somewhat that
[19:13:41] <orangey>	 I probably need to backup before I try this ; )
[19:14:52] <plome>	 hi. I upgraded from 1.19.0 to 1.21.0 and CSS is not loading
[19:15:05] <plome>	 I don't see any errors either in the log files
[19:15:41] <plome>	 i have media wiki in http://www.site.com/~myuser/wiki
[19:15:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Impossible to add interwiki links if the article has none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48842  +comment (10maps)
[19:16:18] <Vulpix>	 plome: try adding ?debug=true at the end of the URL, or &debug=true if the URL already contains a "?"
[19:16:18] <plome>	 if I look at the source and click on the link that generates the css, I get an empty response
[19:16:31] <plome>	 ok
[19:16:55] <Vulpix>	 an empty response usually indicates a server error
[19:17:13] <Vulpix>	 try opening load.php, without parameters
[19:18:13] <plome>	 it tells me: /* No modules requested. Max made me put this here */
[19:18:20] <plome>	 the debug=true did nothing
[19:19:17] <Vulpix>	 well, it may happen that the particular CSS module you were trying to load has no data to output... try another one
[19:19:19] <plome>	 something is wrong with the skins but I can't understand 
[19:19:25] <Vulpix>	 or try the JavaScript ones
[19:20:50] <Vulpix>	 plome: also, be sure you unpacked the new installation on an empty directory and not over the old one. That usually causes strange problems
[19:21:04] <plome>	 i did
[19:21:11] <plome>	 hmm
[19:23:34] <plome>	 the css generated is shown to be at https://www.site.com/~myuser/wiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cskins.modern&only=styles&skin=modern&*
[19:23:47] <plome>	 but it isn't working at all
[19:24:02] <plome>	 hmm
[19:24:30] <orangey>	 Vulpix: I think I settled on: SELECT * FROM revision LEFT JOIN text ON revision.rev_id=text.old_id WHERE `rev_timestamp` > 20130228000000
[19:24:56] <orangey>	 Vulpix: I think the best way is to leave the 'page' table, and then just delete all pages that had a revision past a certain date
[19:26:56] <Vulpix>	 yes, but you'll need to fix page_latest after that, or delete the remaining page entries without revision
[19:27:14] <Vulpix>	 I don't know if there's a maintenance script that does that
[19:27:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Identify which filters triggered auto-flag actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38460  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:27:49] <orangey>	 Vulpix: no problem. they're almost all getting nuked
[19:28:21] <orangey>	 SELECT * FROM revision LEFT JOIN text ON revision.rev_id=text.old_id WHERE `rev_timestamp` > 20130228000000 AND `rev_user` > 5 will exclude my own edits.
[19:29:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unlocking the Pashto wikibooks project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48839  +comment (10MF-Warburg)
[19:31:40] <orangey>	 Did I say a year?
[19:31:46] <orangey>	 I actually meant since September 2011
[19:32:11] <orangey>	 A total of 10 000 revisions left over after I nuked the ~ 40 000 from the past 3 months.
[19:34:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10krenair)
[19:39:23] <plome>	 I am trying to use load.php directly and I get connection was reset
[19:39:27] <plome>	 this is driving me crazy
[19:40:57] <Krenair>	 You're trying to use it directly?
[19:41:34] <plome>	 like access it directly with the URL is the source code
[19:41:38] <plome>	 something is odd
[19:43:22] <Vulpix>	 connection refused is usually the apache segfaulting
[19:43:39] <Vulpix>	 I've seeing a lot of those having problems with load.php
[19:43:49] <Krenair>	 plome, any errors in your apache log?
[19:44:06] <Krenair>	 should be somewhere like /var/log/apache2/error.log ...
[19:44:13] <plome>	 this is strange
[19:44:17] <plome>	 here is what happens
[19:44:45] <plome>	 if I issue: https://www.site.com/~myuser/wiki/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=skins.vector on the browser I get connection reset
[19:44:53] <plome>	 and no log
[19:45:00] <plome>	 it actually never hits the web server
[19:45:09] <plome>	 it is the skins.vector that confuses it
[19:45:10] <plome>	 the .
[19:45:18] <plome>	 hmm
[19:45:22] <plome>	 the browser maybe
[19:45:25] <plome>	 I try another
[19:46:10] <plome>	 chrome sais: Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data.
[19:46:14] <plome>	 no logs
[19:51:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843  +comment (10Anatoliy Goncharov)
[19:53:00] <orangey>	 Ahhhhh. what a relief!
[19:53:07] <orangey>	 Vulpix: thank you for your guidance
[19:53:41] <Vulpix>	 you may want to execute rebuildAll.php
[19:53:49] <Vulpix>	 orangey: ^
[19:53:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ask API with XML format produces invalid XML (title tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44696  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:54:44] <orangey>	 aw crap. accidentally erased a ham page.
[19:54:48] <orangey>	 Vulpix: thank you
[19:55:24] <Vulpix>	 you're welcome
[19:55:33] <orangey>	 thank god for backups ; )
[19:59:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Multiple empty lines turn into uneditable elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48844 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[20:17:31] <orangey>	 How come there's no RSS feed in mediawiki any longer?
[20:21:54] <Reedy>	 RSS for what?
[20:22:26] <Vulpix>	 RecentChanges
[20:22:32] <Vulpix>	 now it uses atom
[20:23:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Image placement incorrect: horizontal instead of vertical - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48845 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[20:23:15] <Vulpix>	 although you can change &feed=atom by &feed=rss :D
[20:29:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Web performance: texvc math images do not specify width and height attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20202  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:29:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Web performance: texvc math images do not specify width and height attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20202  (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:33:04] <orangey>	 Vulpix: not any longer
[20:33:10] <orangey>	 only &feed=atom works
[20:33:26] <Vulpix>	 &feed=rss works on mediawiki.org
[20:33:45] <Vulpix>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=rss
[20:36:10] <Reedy>	 indeed
[20:36:16] <Reedy>	 I think it's a change of defaul
[20:37:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Not possible to use \overarc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30215  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:42:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) unicode display bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34921  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[21:05:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AJAXPoll: add option to show poll results only for users who have voted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35119  +comment (10T. Gries)
[21:07:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Provide a central logging service for tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48846 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[21:16:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update repo on page move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36729  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:17:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Not possible to use \overarc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30215  +comment (10seak.tf)
[21:18:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Cursor before first character of heading and hitting Enter advances cursor one position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48847 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[21:22:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AJAXPoll: add option to show poll results only for users who have voted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35119  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:24:58] <Wikinaut>	 new version of E:AJAXPoll published
[21:25:12] <Wikinaut>	 see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AJAXPoll
[21:30:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843  normal->15enhancement;  +i18n +shell; +comment (10Dereckson)
[21:42:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Some more extension to bundle with the 1.21 tarball/installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43815  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:46:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843  +comment (10Ahonc.ua)
[21:54:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Namespace aliases and project name for Ukrainian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48843  +comment (10dereckson)
[22:30:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Enable EducationProgram in the Hebrew Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48848 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; ()
[23:06:36] <dd4r10>	 Hi, I'm having some issues with templates imported from Wikipedia. Anyone care to help? :)
[23:14:55] <Susan>	 !templates
[23:15:02] <wm-bot>	 For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. See also: !templateproblems , !wptemplates
[23:15:03] <Susan>	 Guess not.
[23:15:07] <Susan>	 !templateproblems
[23:15:07] <wm-bot>	 The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>. Also make sure you copied dependency templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Templates#Copying_from_one_wiki_to_another>
[23:15:13] <Susan>	 dd4r10: ^
[23:16:00] <dd4r10>	 Hi Susan
[23:16:05] <dd4r10>	 I covered all of those steps
[23:16:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ask API with XML format produces invalid XML (title tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44696  +comment (10alj62888)
[23:16:29] <dd4r10>	 but for some reason, templates I imported don't have a border, and are not properly aligned.
[23:21:59] <Susan>	 Sounds like missing CSS.
[23:22:10] <Susan>	 Check the page "MediaWiki:Common.css" on the wiki you're copying the templates from.
[23:22:16] <Susan>	 Create a similar page on your wiki.
[23:22:18] <dd4r10>	 Thanks a lot, that was the issue!
[23:22:18] <Susan>	 dd4r10: ^
[23:27:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ask API with XML format produces invalid XML (title tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44696  +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1)
[23:27:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VE moves header and inserts text in wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48735  +comment (10phoebe)
[23:38:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ask API with XML format produces invalid XML (title tags) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44696  +comment (10alj62888)
[23:45:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Logging in with a temporary password doesn't really log me in while logged in as another user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48499  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[23:46:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Permalink / Special:PermanentLink outputs a "no such target page" error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48455  +comment (10Tyler Romeo)