[19:43:50] "system", lawl. [19:44:00] that's after JS has been run [19:44:05] yeah [19:44:14] actually, that might as well be ULS [19:44:20] Someone noticed it on commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org earlier: http://www10.pic-upload.de/27.05.13/bxhleq4ygzm.jpg [19:44:28] aharoni, Nikerabbit ^^^ [19:44:31] yeahhhh [19:44:38] Select font for English: Font used for content [19:44:38] And someone else on mediawiki.org: http://imageshack.us/a/img580/4605/zomgxx.png [19:44:44] it says "System font" [19:44:59] but "system" and system font are clearly not the same thing [19:45:02] WTF. [19:45:07] Looks like Windows 95. [19:45:16] actually I think both of those are commons... must be confusing it with another issue [19:46:40] Very odd. I've been tinkering with ULS and webfonts for many months and haven't seen anything that resembles this. [19:47:01] ROFL [19:47:14] I think new code just rolled to mediawiki.org few hours ago [19:47:14] welcome back, '95 ;) [19:47:15] But then, I've been doing it on Firefox/Linux. [19:47:28] what browser/OS is this? [19:47:31] aharoni: "system" is a font name on Windows [19:47:31] * MaxSem prepares his reverthammer [19:47:38] aharoni: and it's the font we're all seeing [19:47:41] Opera/W7 [19:48:06] I'm on Win XP for the record [19:48:07] The issue you guys are having is the one shown in these screenshots right? just to be clear.. [19:48:09] (and Opera, too) [19:48:19] Krenair: if someone noticed it earlier, why has it not been reported? [19:48:25] Krenair: yes [19:48:52] y'know, the font looks kinda cool, though. [19:48:53] Krenair: not me, I guess it's because I'm on linux. But indeed, the body has font-family: system,sans-serif; [19:52:00] At first I figured it was the fault of the user - I didn't have the same problem and I hadn't heard of it from anyone else. [19:52:14] I should've got the next people to file a bug... [19:52:41] MaxSem: where do you see that "font-famil: system"? [19:52:44] MatmaRex: ^ ? [19:53:32] aharoni, in DOM tree's [19:53:41] aharoni: on #mw-content-text [19:53:45]

[19:54:08] that is, it's added by JS [19:54:09] [19:54:14] lol [19:54:18] strange, I'm seeing it inside the [19:56:28] Vulpix: do you see it? I don't see it. [19:56:36] but then again, it's Fx/Linux [19:56:56] I'm on Firefox 21/Linux [19:57:33] Not seeing it on Chrome 27 - Linux and Windows [19:57:56] Vulpix, MatmaRex - what is your UI language? [19:58:09] aharoni: spanish [19:58:18] people were seeing this on gd (gaelic) and de (german) [19:58:43] I'm on en [19:58:43] aharoni: english [19:59:01] i tried English and Hebrew and didn't see any font-family on mw-content-text [19:59:44] aharoni: If I click the ULS icon, there are 2 buttons: Language and fonts. Clicking on Fonts gives me 2 drop down menus. Both have 2 choices: "System font" and "OpenDyslexic" [19:59:50] aharoni: actually, it's on a bunch of elements [19:59:55] and of course, System font is selected [19:59:57] aharoni:

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[20:00:04] [20:00:08] i don't see it anywhere. [20:00:14] (same as MaxSem metioned) [20:00:17] tried the element inspector and view source. [20:00:30] what could be the difference? [20:00:35] aharoni: ULS [20:00:36] (that's copied from Opera Dragonfly's DOM view) [20:00:54] 03(mod) Impossible to add interwiki links if the article has none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48842 +comment (10maps) [20:01:06] MatmaRex: what's your browser's "accept-language"? [20:01:09] i'm confused. is anybody seeing on browsers that are njot opera? [20:02:10] Vulpix: Accept-Language: en [20:02:37] ok, so is there any option for disabling ULS? [20:03:04] ah, maybe the problem is because I have several choices in my accept-language [20:03:28] Vulpix: i think that we all have ULS [20:03:34] (I certainly do) [20:03:50] and i also have several languages in Accept-Language. [20:03:59] (i play with it all the time) [20:04:24] then I don't know why that difference :S [20:05:43] aharoni: i'll debug it after midnight my time [20:05:46] (that's in 2 hours) [20:05:52] because i've got something to finish now [20:06:01] umm [20:06:58] in the mean time: please file a bug and revert ULS to last deployed version [20:15:46] 03(NEW) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [20:16:02] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 (10Niklas Laxström) [20:16:21] MaxSem: is your revert hammer still available? [20:17:18] 03(NEW) PDF export of an article fails to export encapsulated tag in Reflist model - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48872 trivial; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [20:17:39] Nikerabbit, don't you have it too? [20:18:07] Nikerabbit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/65658/1/resources/js/ext.uls.webfonts.js ? [20:18:16] MaxSem: sure but it will take me a while to prepare a revert and figure out how broken tin is [20:18:16] Nikerabbit: mormegil pointed to this as possible culprit [20:18:19] seems likely [20:18:29] ok [20:18:54] MatmaRex: Nikerabbit : is that what's deployed? that one is from today [20:19:00] * MatmaRex has no idea [20:19:03] git submodule update --init is going to take a while [20:19:04] i just saw it scroll by on #-dev [20:19:41] at this point I'm not concerned about the cause, but restoring the site to known good version [20:20:05] aharoni: seems so https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22/wmf5#UniversalLanguageSelector [20:20:14] 4th bullet [20:20:42] 03(NEW) CheckUser Sucks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48873 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; () [20:20:57] lol [20:21:19] that is not acceptable bug title [20:21:45] ^ [20:21:49] why? [20:22:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug [20:22:20] 03(mod) Special:Version in 1.21.0 reports that it is a release candidate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48861 +comment (10Hazard-SJ) [20:22:23] well, it's "clear" but not "precise" [20:22:32] 03(mod) CheckUser queries not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48873 summary (10Niklas Laxström) [20:22:34] it is not clear at all [20:22:39] we cannot fix opinions [20:22:50] Want me to change it to CheckUser doesn't work? [20:23:09] ssh: connect to host gerrit.wikimedia.org port 29418: Connection timed out [20:23:09] fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly [20:23:09] Unable to fetch in submodule path 'extensions/ExpandTemplates' [20:23:12] * Nikerabbit sighs [20:23:18] Where are you seeing that? [20:23:19] "CheckUser times out", preferably ;) [20:23:21] Oh, timeout [20:23:23] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 +comment (10federicoleva) [20:23:35] Reedy: could you rollback ULS to previous version if you have code already around? [20:23:47] Uhh [20:23:49] Yeah [20:23:58] to whatever wmf4 is on? [20:24:16] Reedy: yes please [20:24:24] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 +comment (10federicoleva) [20:25:05] 24ebaff9e92df957cf644520800a18ec7ca3f93e [20:25:11] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 (10Nemo) [20:25:12] 03(mod) PDF export of an article fails to export encapsulated tag in Reflist model - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48872 (10robin.herve) [20:26:07] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 +comment (10martineznovo) [20:26:36] MaxSem: nm, Reedy is doing it :) [20:26:54] aharoni: feel free to get sleep too, we can debug this tomorrow [20:26:57] eh, I had to create wmf5 on my system too [20:27:54] MaxSem: yeah it's pain, it takes liek 15 minutes at least [20:28:41] 03(mod) CheckUser queries not working (timing out) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48873 +performance; summary (10Nemo) [20:29:20] Don't worry [20:29:26] You'll have to do it weekly very soon [20:29:40] * MaxSem bites Reedy [20:29:55] * Reedy hides behind greg-g [20:30:03] Reedy: it's okay as long as gerrit does not time out and I can do it before I actually need to deploy anything [20:30:11] Haha, yeah [20:30:25] Though you can submit changes from tin [20:30:51] Reedy: eeks, how does it know my username? [20:31:12] it'll use the username you're logged in with [20:31:38] hmm [20:31:40] that can work [20:31:48] consistency is useful :) [20:33:43] sync is still running? [20:34:07] ah no [20:34:11] Finisheed 5 minutes ago [20:34:15] JS cache and stuff [20:34:52] MatmaRex & anyone who had the problem, can you confirm that it now went away? after clearing caches? [20:35:11] yes, it's gone [20:35:16] thanks [20:35:45] yes, fixed [20:35:55] (confirming) [20:37:52] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [20:39:11] thanks everyone [20:39:11] !class LocalisationUpdate [20:39:11] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classLocalisationUpdate.html [20:39:24] I am off for today [20:39:46] 03(NEW) Lacking permission to read tables on some databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48874 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [20:52:31] 03(mod) Check $wgEnableAPI for all javascript modules using the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30213 +comment (10PleaseStand) [20:53:18] 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram in the Hebrew Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48848 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:54:00] 03(NEW) Unable to explain queries on replicated databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48875 enhancement; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [20:54:50] 03(NEW) Install R - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48876 enhancement; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [20:55:08] 03(mod) Document Special:PermanentLink at Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45221 +comment (10Nemo) [20:55:46] 03(mod) Document Special:PermanentLink in the interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45221 summary (10Nemo) [20:55:51] 03(mod) Make shell usernames findable on wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48854 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:55:51] 03(mod) Display shell username on Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45995 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [20:56:34] 03(mod) Document Special:PermanentLink in the interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45221 +comment (10Hazard-SJ) [21:12:32] 03(mod) Scrolling should not be needed to see whole ULS dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47821 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:22:36] 03(mod) newly added filters do not work on tr-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48866 +comment (10krenair) [21:41:15] what sort of memory budget does MW need, especially when the likes of APC is installed? [21:42:20] i realise that has as much (or more) to do with other factors in the hosting solution (eg how many apache processes etc), but guidelines? Presumably 512 MB is too small. 2 GB ought to be enough for a small-medium size site. 1 GB? [21:49:31] Is there an upload-api for commons that can be used from a gadget? [21:50:34] lbenedix: are gadgets strictly javascript? [21:50:44] yepp [21:53:13] lbenedix: then i would guess (n00b that I am) that you can probably do it if the wiki allows anonymous contributions, and you might be able to do it logged in if you can carry enough state in your JS.. whether it would be feasible in terms of execution time? dunno. [21:53:38] lbenedix: from what i recall of the API, i don't think you can share the session login details, you'd have to create a new login [21:53:43] lbenedix: what about AJAX? [21:54:26] the gadget is only visible for logged in users [21:55:22] hi [21:55:44] lbenedix, I think you want commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=upload&... [21:55:49] hi [21:55:58] yeah, but your index.php session is not shared with api.php, so you'd have to log in via the api again [21:56:05] maybe load.php might help? [21:56:55] lbenedix: otoh, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Ajax [21:58:18] but your question was about write api. if js has a call for log in, perhaps it has one for upload, too [21:58:26] sorry, too n00b to know more at this point [21:59:01] because the images are datauris (from a canvas) I can't use this function, I have to build the XMLHttpRequest 'by hand' [21:59:16] [02:55:58 PM] yeah, but your index.php session is not shared with api.php, so you'd have to log in via the api again <-- no you don't. As long as you pass the cookies it's fine [21:59:35] btw. the upload api should accept dataURIs [21:59:37] legoktm: oh cool, so they're compatible? there you go then.. [22:02:52] Howdy people. I am trying to upgrade from some old wiki version to a newer version and I am getting an error :Call to undefined method UppercaseCollation::getFirstLetterData() [22:03:00] Any suggestions? Not many results from google :\ [22:03:14] Wolfed: ugh [22:03:25] what is your "newer version"? [22:03:35] Checks [22:03:45] Wolfed: there was a bug that caused that, but it shouldn't exist in any released version [22:03:48] 1.21 [22:04:00] Ok, I'll see if I can re update it [22:04:08] Lucky me to fetch the right revision lol [22:04:09] unless it does [22:04:13] hopefully it doesn't [22:04:16] * MatmaRex checks as well [22:06:04] Wolfed: nah, i'm positive it wasn't released anywhere. so your new version would be an old git master [22:06:28] (this was caused by https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56205/ and fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57500/ ) [22:06:35] MatmaRex, indeed. [22:06:38] I cloned it from git [22:06:45] (you're lucky because i was the person who broke that :P) [22:06:51] hahahaha [22:07:02] I am cloning a newer revision~ [22:09:35] There we go [22:09:55] how much memory do i need to budget for mediawiki? [22:11:42] I am getting a lot of "Data of revision with rev_id=XXXXXX unavailable!" [22:11:51] Is that something I should concern myself about? [22:12:04] ie, in a LAMP configuration, is there some minimum guideline for system memory? [22:12:12] esp if i want to use APC [22:12:56] Wolfed: might upgrading to an intermediate version of MW help? [22:13:33] I am already halfway with the update, doubt doing a downgrade at this point would be any good :P [22:14:12] Wolfed: no SQL backup before you started? [22:14:28] For the wiki? No. It was 90% spam [22:14:28] lol [22:14:34] oh dear [22:14:40] Wouldnt mind doing it from scratch really [22:15:08] Wolfed: for anti-spam, i was recommended areyouahuman/playthru as a replacement for recaptcha [22:15:37] I am going to try out dnsbl for now, as I am restarting with the wiki and play close attention to it [22:15:39] (since recaptcha doesn't, on its own solve an aweful lot) [22:15:44] strix2: it probably wouldn't. a lot of care has been taken to make the database updates seamless [22:15:46] A lot of nice new plugins have been released since.. [22:15:48] A lot of time [22:15:49] :P [22:16:11] Wolfed: and since you're updating i think less than a version up, there should barely be any DB updates to do [22:16:40] Wolfed: DNSRBL helped me a great deal; i also set wgEmailConfirmToEdit true [22:16:44] Wolfed: i have no idea what that message might mean, maybe it screams about DB corruption, or maybe it was just populating some caches [22:17:01] MatmaRex, the "previous" update was broken actually, so my last revision.. was prolly around the 0.9 or so [22:17:02] lol [22:17:10] MediaWiki is quite resilient to inconsistent databases [22:17:20] Ah no, 1.15.1 [22:17:21] :P [22:17:38] And its done~ and it doesnt work! [22:17:41] Lets see what bugs it out [22:17:57] Wolfed: i wrote an extra for ConfirmEdit to support playthru and submitted it to Brion for consideration for inclusion in ConfirmEdit. i can send you the git url if you want it. [22:18:27] MatmaRex: ah right. i never know how well tested such upgrades are when the difference between versions is large [22:19:06] strix2: i think there are some success stories about upgrading 1.5 straight to 1.18 or something :P [22:19:12] (but i can't link any right now) [22:19:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Arrow keys move the caret in the opposite direction in RTL environment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38546 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:20:02] MatmaRex: gosh [22:20:38] Hazard-Away: thanks for your comment on the bug i filed earlier ('cos somebody here said i should :)) [22:21:34] w00t, I am being redirected to /wiki x 10 [22:21:34] lol [22:21:50] Nevermind... [22:21:50] -_- [22:22:17] Wolfed: i wrote an API script to fetch a namespace to the local filesystem, one file per article [22:22:39] Wolfed: perhaps that might help in starting over/filtering out the crap [22:22:40] Wolfed: (if it comes to it) [22:25:20] I was being redirected to a wonrg url [22:25:21] wrong* [22:25:22] :P [22:25:27] All working now. Thanks a lot guys :) [22:25:40] would that every problem be so easily solved.. [22:25:42] 03(mod) newly added filters do not work on tr-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48866 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [22:32:11] i'm trying to make a lua module to return a hex color based on the input (like {#invoke: color | water | dark}) [22:32:31] umm it seems to be problem in sharing MySQL database... [22:33:35] my approach here https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cbb4033d181bcf98488e works fine locally if i set frame.args[1], but returns nothing on the wiki [22:33:35] Gika: find a lua howto, and debug it from the commandline or interactive shell [22:35:36] 03(mod) Lacking permission to read tables on some databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48874 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [22:35:38] (i pass as frame {args = {'dark'}}) [22:42:51] strix2: No problem :) [22:52:52] 03(mod) Allow tools to create databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46460 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [22:58:48] 03(mod) Unable to explain queries on replicated databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48875 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [23:13:51] 03(mod) Can mdbtools be installed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48805 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:13:51] 03(mod) Install python modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48863 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:13:52] 03(mod) Install "tree" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48862 +comment (10gerritadmin)