[00:01:05] 03(NEW) Set up a test site for Wikipedia Zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48922 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [00:01:31] 03(mod) Behavior of visiting en.zero.wikipedia.org (Wikipedia Zero) while not part of the Zero network needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48921 (10MZMcBride) [00:01:32] 03(mod) Set up a test site for Wikipedia Zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48922 (10MZMcBride) [00:02:43] 03(mod) Prevent zero.wikipedia.org from being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48856 +comment (10b) [00:03:37] 03(mod) Install R on Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48876 +comment (10b) [00:19:40] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as bars in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:20:14] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as bars in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:20:39] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as bars in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:24:31] yurik: hehe [00:27:51] 03(mod) ULS enables IPA by default for English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:27:54] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as bars in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10swalling) [00:38:08] 03(mod) Create account benefits numbers get clipped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48909 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:44:16] 03(mod) Check $wgEnableAPI for all javascript modules using the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30213 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [00:49:27] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as bars in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:55:02] 03(NEW) [New version] In IE6, login and signup forms look completely broken but are functional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48923 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [00:55:26] 03(mod) [New version] In IE6, login and signup forms look completely broken but are functional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48923 +comment (10swalling) [00:55:50] 03(mod) [New version] In IE6, login and signup forms look completely broken but are functional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48923 +comment (10swalling) [00:58:36] 03(mod) Lua error, interpreter exited with status 2. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48877 +comment (10bjorsch) [01:07:00] 03(NEW) Images: Empty alt captions dont roundtrip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48924 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; () [01:09:04] 03(mod) Tidy up wmf-config CommonSettings.php and InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29902 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:36:30] 03(mod) Extracts need to filter out more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48917 +comment (10jrobson) [01:51:05] 03(mod) {{PAGESINCAT:Foo|subpages}} Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48745 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [02:02:07] i have a dump of the database of a mediawiki in which the only legitimate edits are by one user (me) [02:02:30] is it possible to filter the dump and get rid of spammy accounts and edits (ie anything not by me?) [02:02:36] okay, it's possible, is it safe? [02:04:00] or else perhaps it would be easier to filter an XML dump [02:04:38] 03(mod) In recent changes, remove "rollback" link of pages the user can't edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48731 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [02:08:51] 03(mod) Image thumbnails on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48728 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:09:46] 03(mod) Image thumbnails on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48728 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:09:48] 03(mod) Image thumbnails on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48728 (10Jon) [02:22:39] 03(mod) add createuser to $wgRateLimits to restrict usercreation from IP or Subnet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48373 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:58:35] So close... just 3 sections or so to finish some other day before my MW Development Chapter page is ready. [03:08:17] 03(mod) In recent changes, remove "rollback" link of pages the user can't edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48731 +comment (10menoush25) [03:11:37] 03(mod) [New version] Placeholders appear as password characters in IE6-9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:11:44] 03(mod) Placeholders appear as password characters in IE6-9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:20:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests/User_rights/FastLizard4 <- Do permissions requests usually go this unanswered? :P [03:21:23] /wl [03:23:54] FastLizard4|iPad: I'll answer it [03:24:11] well, it was answered [03:24:20] but sometimes yes, it does take that long. [03:24:26] Okay :P [03:28:14] Jasper_Deng: Thanks in advance :) [04:39:28] 03(mod) Placeholders appear as password characters in IE6-9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48918 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:48:40] 03(mod) --bot flag for maintenance/createAndPromote.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45160 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:52:43] 03(mod) --bot flag for maintenance/createAndPromote.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45160 -patch-need-review +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Hazard-SJ) [04:53:04] 03(mod) --bot flag for maintenance/createAndPromote.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45160 (10Hazard-SJ) [04:54:17] 03(mod) Specify language fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36430 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [05:01:53] 03(mod) Lua error, interpreter exited with status 2. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48877 +comment (10redekopmark) [05:25:03] 03(mod) --bot flag for maintenance/createAndPromote.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45160 +comment (10Liangent) [05:33:22] 03(mod) ULS enables IPA by default for English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 +comment (10runabh) [05:39:01] 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:47:54] 03(mod) --bot flag for maintenance/createAndPromote.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45160 +comment (10hazard_sj) [06:14:29] 03(NEW) The App Store description cannot be localized. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48925 normal; Commons App: iOS (iPhone or iPad); () [06:18:38] 03(mod) WebInstallerOutput.getCssUrl add duplicate '?' when appending parameters to url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48881 +comment (10Johan Euphrosine) [06:20:10] 03(NEW) Users can't create files in tools's directories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48926 blocker; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [06:41:42] 03(mod) Translate extension's and fail to appear in extensiontags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48891 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:44:50] 03(mod) mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48905 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [06:46:25] 03(mod) PHP outputs wrong day of the week for dates until 1600 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48907 (10Andre Klapper) [06:48:06] 03(mod) Cannot write as "magnus" to my tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48910 +comment (10aklapper) [06:48:18] 03(mod) Cannot write as "magnus" to my tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48910 (10Andre Klapper) [06:51:54] 03(mod) Visiting en.zero.wikipedia.org while not part of the Zero network needs further thought: Big red banner, restricted to particular IP addresses/ranges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48921 summary (10Andre Klapper) [07:00:33] 03(mod) Certain edits appearing under caching proxy IP address on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48919 +wikidata (10Andre Klapper) [07:03:12] 03(mod) String should say "log of blocked IPs", not "log of blocking IPs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48920 normal->trivial; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [07:03:12] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Andre Klapper) [07:13:38] 03(NEW) Uploading new version of image fails to purge cache of thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48927 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; () [07:15:53] 03(mod) PageTriage: a rationale should be mandatory for the {{disputed}} tag. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48417 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [07:15:58] 03(mod) Uploading new version of image fails to purge cache of thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48927 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:02] 03(mod) [Regression] Thumbnail cache should be invalidated on re-upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31680 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:03] 03(mod) reports of caching issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38879 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:06] 03(mod) thumb.php fails to generate thumbnail of SVG images (gives HTML error as body) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41113 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:08] 03(mod) Invalidation of Varnish thumbnail cache sometimes doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41130 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:09] 03(mod) Squid cache not being cleared for thumbs when updating new version of image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42963 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:10] 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized error preventing thumbnail display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43345 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:13] 03(mod) Monitor effectiveness of HTCP purging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43449 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:14] 03(mod) 2000px thumbnail not deleted from (swift?) on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44269 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:17] 03(mod) old revisions of pages are shown when not logged in and also revision history is outdated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44391 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:18] 03(mod) Handle thumbnail purges when thumbnails are in cache but not in the backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44428 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:16:19] 03(mod) 401 Unauthorized for min.wp's thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44872 (10Ryan Kaldari) [07:20:01] 03(mod) Override the name of the Squid Proxy owner to something meaningful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18903 +comment (10hashar) [07:30:56] is there any way to mass delete spam users? [10:03:04] 03(mod) jsub doesn't work when called directly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48750 (10Peter Bena) [10:04:42] 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org and all other language subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:15:36] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [10:18:06] 03(mod) Word-ending links do not work in or/hi, update linktrail rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36966 +comment (10santhosh.thottingal) [10:19:48] 03(mod) ULS: Don't set inline "font-family: sans-serif" when no fonts are specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39992 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [10:22:28] does anybody in here worked in Parsoid? in the channel there is nobody [10:24:31] Amir1: they are probably in the channel, just afk right now [10:26:08] MatmaRex: ok [10:29:26] 03(mod) ULS: Don't set inline "font-family: sans-serif" when no fonts are specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39992 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:31:53] 03(mod) User login and signup forms don't look great in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47698 +comment (10Mark Clements (HappyDog)) [10:39:35] 03(mod) Indic typing not working for search field even when Narayam is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44301 +comment (10Pavanaja U B) [10:44:06] 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org and all other language subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:49:24] 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739 +comment (10aklapper) [10:52:07] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:55:51] 03(mod) ULS: Don't set inline "font-family: sans-serif" when no fonts are specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39992 +comment (10santhosh.thottingal) [10:57:33] 03(mod) "System" used as a font sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48871 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [11:06:53] 03(NEW) Can't view source of old revision on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48935 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [11:07:15] 03(mod) {{PAGESINCAT:Foo|subpages}} Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48745 +comment (10Technical_13) [11:08:11] 03(mod) Can't view source of empty MediaWiki page on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48935 summary; +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [11:16:49] 03(mod) Add mention notification threshold - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48882 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [11:21:34] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:32:08] Hi, everyone ;) Hi, yaron: ;) What edior to use to edit LocalSettings.php? There is no answer here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:LocalSettings.php#What_type_of_text_editor_to_use.3F [11:32:26] natbrown: hello! [11:32:40] yaron:) [11:32:42] I always just use a regular text editor - but that's what I use for PHP code in general. [11:32:57] natbrown: if you use commands terminal "nano" would be good [11:34:19] 03(mod) Remove IP throttle for account creation (provide override whitelist via a MediaWiki extension?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25000 +comment (10pavanaja) [11:35:32] yaron: What is "regular text editor"? [11:35:47] Well, I usually use "vi". [11:36:04] I just meant that it's not PHP-specific. [11:36:14] Although any PHP editor would work. [11:40:30] 03(mod) Remove IP throttle for account creation (provide override whitelist via a MediaWiki extension?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25000 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:48:09] Amir1:Thanks [11:48:22] yaron:I've added your words :) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:LocalSettings.php#What_type_of_text_editor_to_use.3F [11:48:42] :) [11:55:42] 03(mod) Can't view source of empty MediaWiki page on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48935 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:02:19] 03(mod) Load user javascript on Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48931 (10Andre Klapper) [12:04:34] 03(mod) Create new keyword replica - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48929 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:05:05] 03(NEW) diff view does not show claims with time data type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48936 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [12:06:37] 03(mod) ULS: Don't set inline "font-family: sans-serif" when no fonts are specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39992 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:08:05] 03(mod) Uploading new version of image fails to purge cache of thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48927 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:09:58] 03(mod) The same name detection prevents uploading same file in different format. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46741 +comment (10aklapper) [12:11:08] 03(mod) Upgrade jQuery from 1.8.x to 1.9.x or 1.10.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44740 summary (10Andre Klapper) [12:11:22] 03(mod) Update jQuery to 1.10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48895 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:11:23] 03(mod) Upgrade jQuery from 1.8.x to 1.9.x or 1.10.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44740 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:13:04] 03(mod) Recent Changes - clicking on the verification link it loads a new page to confirm the execution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48074 +testme (10Andre Klapper) [12:21:38] Hello [12:21:39] api.php?action=parse&page=Hauptseite&format=dump will show me the HTML code of my page. [12:21:41] But how can I get the source code for editing the page? [12:22:43] 03(mod) Indic typing not working for search field even when Narayam is enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44301 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:23:12] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Main%20Page&rvprop=content [12:23:43] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:24:34] 03(mod) Cache action=credits results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47723 +comment (10aklapper) [12:25:42] 03(mod) MediaWiki silently breaks when you enable $wgValidateAllHtml outside of Apache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48342 +comment (10aklapper) [12:25:59] THX [12:28:58] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10sam) [12:31:46] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:33:41] 03(mod) Could not find data for image on pdf upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48700 +comment (10aklapper) [12:33:45] 03(mod) Error creating thumbnail: "Warning: File has insufficient data for an image." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48178 +comment (10aklapper) [12:34:01] 03(mod) Could not find data for image on pdf upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48700 (10Andre Klapper) [12:34:02] 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371 (10Andre Klapper) [12:34:32] 03(mod) [Regression] jquery.localize tests are failing in IE6-8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40598 +comment (10aklapper) [12:34:52] 03(mod) ORMRow::insert() fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43475 +comment (10aklapper) [12:37:24] 03(mod) Mobile Main Page outdated before logging in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48062 +comment (10aklapper) [12:38:41] 03(mod) PHP fatal error at FlaggablePageView::dif() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48741 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:46:15] 03(mod) Blog comment form should be protocol-relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37229 +comment (10aklapper) [12:47:55] 03(mod) qtop command not on all OGE submit hosts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47538 +comment (10Peter Bena) [12:48:47] 03(mod) Set up Icinga monitoring for grid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48668 (10Peter Bena) [12:49:32] 03(mod) Occasional temporary problem: no search results for any search terms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35691 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:49:59] 03(mod) $PATH is different in interactive shells and cron jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48475 (10Peter Bena) [12:50:12] 03(mod) Internal error: Could not determine if the copy succeeded. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43967 +testme (10Andre Klapper) [12:50:21] 03(mod) Make qacct usable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48696 (10Peter Bena) [12:50:44] 03(mod) ULS: JSON loading problems (Access-Control-Allow-Origin) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41489 +comment (10aklapper) [12:51:25] 03(mod) SpecialWatchlist should extend SpecialRecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48641 normal->15enhancement; +patch-in-gerrit (10Andre Klapper) [12:51:53] 03(mod) UI improvement suggestion for "create new tool" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48785 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [12:52:48] 03(mod) Special pages are not redirected properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48670 (10Andre Klapper) [12:52:59] 03(mod) jsub with -once doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48751 (10Peter Bena) [12:53:29] 03(mod) Upload speed with chunked uploads is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36599 +performance (10Andre Klapper) [12:53:30] 03(mod) Define rules for using Ganglia for individual tool statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48737 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [12:54:43] 03(mod) In batch uploads, frequent "Internal error: Could not determine if the copy succeeded" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48647 (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:04] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs stable version does not use ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48638 (10Andre Klapper) [12:55:38] 03(mod) Permit all lowercase usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48640 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [12:56:25] 03(mod) jstart doesn't guarantee -once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48816 normal->major (10Peter Bena) [12:57:09] 03(mod) Service group order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48405 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Peter Bena) [12:58:02] 03(mod) jsub breaks whitespaces in arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48811 (10Peter Bena) [12:58:36] 03(mod) Upload wizard doesn't understand all error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27305 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:58:50] 03(mod) Show grid status in Ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48338 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [12:58:55] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10jamie) [12:59:28] 03(mod) Database error at undeletion (race condition?): LocalFileRestoreBatch::execute Error: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48636 +platformeng; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:00:00] 03(mod) Provide namespace IDs and names in the databases similar to toolserver.namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48625 (10Peter Bena) [13:00:02] 03(mod) (Tracking) Database replication services - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48930 (10Peter Bena) [13:00:27] 03(mod) UploadWizard can't upload more than one file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46845 +testme (10Andre Klapper) [13:00:32] 03(mod) MediaWiki:pageinfo-subpages-name and MediaWiki:pageinfo-redirects-name need PLURAL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48634 (10Andre Klapper) [13:00:33] 03(mod) Messages needing PLURAL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38781 (10Andre Klapper) [13:00:34] 03(mod) Wikitech: SAL transclusion on project pages should be limited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48065 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [13:00:40] Hello MediaWiki crowd and thank you to those of you who gave up a weekend to come to Amsterdam this month [13:00:57] hi sumanah [13:01:03] Hi guillom! [13:01:30] 03(NEW) Implement value formatter for time data type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48937 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ValueFormatters; () [13:02:48] 03(mod) jQuery.IME extensions for Firefox and Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46647 +upstream (10Andre Klapper) [13:03:24] 03(mod) jstart isn't a symlink in the repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48644 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [13:04:07] sumanah: Looks like you guys had a great time [13:04:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013/Workshops https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#Photostitch_of_all_projects_28010 GorillaWarfare - check those out too! [13:04:41] Yeah, people had a good time, learned a lot [13:05:15] * GorillaWarfare clicks [13:05:24] 03(mod) Fixup hardcoded usages of "User:" in CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48283 (10Andre Klapper) [13:05:24] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Andre Klapper) [13:06:21] 03(mod) "Random article" clicks not appearing in Chrome browser history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32646 -testme ; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:06:29] sumanah: Very cool! [13:07:02] 03(mod) Implement value formatter for time data type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48937 normal->04CRIT (10denny vrandecic) [13:07:14] Yeah! [13:07:22] GorillaWarfare: hope you can come next year. We don't have a date or a city yet [13:08:12] I'm sure I'll hear about it when you do figure it out :) [13:08:15] I hope I can come too [13:09:38] It would also be mega-cool to organize a 1-day event in the BoWash metropolitan area :) [13:10:03] sumanah: Agreed! [13:10:30] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Clicking on the 'Apply Settings' does not close the ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48898 +comment (10pginer) [13:11:20] GorillaWarfare: would you be interested in organizing something like that this summer? [13:12:14] I don't know if I'd be interested in spearheading the effort -- what with work and GSoC I'll be pretty swamped. Plus I'm already committed to helping with an OpenHatch event :P [13:12:19] But I would definitely help [13:12:32] Perhaps Pharos & co. would be interested [13:13:25] GorillaWarfare: oh, which OpenHatch event? [13:14:16] We're doing a Open Source Comes to Campus joint even between Northeastern University and Boston University [13:14:21] *joint event [13:17:28] 03(mod) SetQualifier api module does not decode json data value properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48864 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:19:57] * YuviPanda waves at sumanah [13:20:28] Hi YuviPanda! [13:20:44] hope you had fun at the hackathon :) [13:22:24] YuviPanda: A lot of people learned a lot at the event, and had important discussions. So that is very fulfilling [13:22:30] :) [13:23:02] sumanah: did I tell you that the GitHub Pull Request -> Gerrit bot is operational? [13:23:14] could be useful for getting first time people in [13:23:33] I saw! I'm glad of it! Are there specific repositories where we ought to pressure the maintainers to opt in? [13:24:09] pressure to maintainers might not be the best thing :) [13:24:15] 6 repositories have already opted in [13:24:25] and I'd want people to try it out more, to iron out process issues [13:24:33] before we publicize it more [13:24:39] OK! Makes sense to me [13:25:00] but that's not happening yet, but then again everyone's just coming back from the Hackathon... [13:25:05] * sumanah puts away pennants, banners, leaflets, minivans equipped with loudspeakers [13:25:05] so I'll just have to wait, I guess. [13:25:11] hehe :) [13:25:20] hiya freakolowsky! YuviPanda, freakolowsky came to his first hackathon this weekend [13:25:39] erm ... nope ... my third [13:25:39] * YuviPanda remembers his first hackathon, was beautiful [13:26:11] sumanah: I'll poke around to get docs, etc ready before another hackathon comes around [13:26:45] whoops, sorry freakolowsky, I don't know why I was confusing you with someone else there [13:26:54] 03(mod) Cannot delete tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45597 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [13:27:17] I think someone else who looks a little like you [13:27:52] i'll start wearing evil-empire-database t-shirts :D [13:28:15] Oracle? [13:28:32] yep [13:29:15] it was so great when freakolowsky met MaxSem [13:29:34] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Eugene Zelenko) [13:29:42] "oh hi!" "hi!" "still working for Satan?" [13:29:52] hehe [13:30:01] I could read that in Max's voice [13:30:23] hi YuviPanda [13:30:27] hi Nikerabbit [13:30:32] wat [13:31:03] lol ... come to the dark side ... we'z got cookies :D [13:31:20] Nikerabbit: nothing [13:31:22] :) [13:31:30] freakolowsky: and lawsuits? :D [13:33:25] can't find the image of a t-shirt i made for reedy for his BD few years back :D [13:46:49] 03(NEW) RuntimeException for unknown data type id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48938 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [13:46:51] freakolowsky: Nikerabbit did you already fill out the hackathon survey? :) [13:47:38] addshore: andre__ anomie aude and the other 100 people in this channel who were at the event :-) did you already fill out the hackathon participant survey? it really does help us fix things for next year [13:47:51] sumanah, yes, all filed out. :) [13:48:00] 03(mod) {{PAGESINCAT:Foo|subpages}} Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48745 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [13:48:03] 03(mod) Lua error, interpreter exited with status 2. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48877 +comment (10bjorsch) [13:48:14] thank you andre__ [13:48:37] sumanah: Nikerabbit reported that ghostery on chrome doesn't like that survey FWIW [13:48:55] sumanah: Yes. Remember, I told you that on Sunday evening ;) [13:49:00] * YuviPanda heads off to study again [13:49:00] wish he'd reported it to me! [13:49:04] oh wait [13:49:14] sumanah: are you aware of channels for Lua developers on wiki? [13:49:16] anomie: I apologize! My brain obviously is overflowing [13:49:23] sumanah: It's ok (: [13:49:24] mailing lists, IRC, etc? [13:49:26] YuviPanda: I think anomie would know, but I don't know [13:49:26] sumanah: you were probably flying at the time; and I guess ghostery dislikes many things [13:49:31] sumanah: did that on sunday [13:49:36] thanks freakolowsky! [13:49:51] anomie: any idea on Mediawiki-Lua communities? [13:50:04] YuviPanda: but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Lua and #mediawiki and wikitech-l seem best to me [13:50:14] sumanah: I mentioned it to Siebrand, wasn't quite sure who is reposnible for the survey [13:50:17] me [13:50:45] sumanah: hmm, alright. Wasn't sure of going to enwiki (was writing some lua for tawiki people), but will see there next time [13:50:46] I used Qualtrics, which WMF has a license for, is not Google, makes it easy to do slightly complicated surveys and get good reporting & charts [13:51:01] YuviPanda: the talk on the Scribunto extension page on mediawiki.org ? [13:51:08] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lua [13:51:44] alright [13:51:45] thanks sumanah [13:51:46] :) [13:51:55] YuviPanda: Not really. enwiki has [[WP:Lua requests]], and I expect other projects might have something similar. [13:51:55] Nikerabbit: if you send me the relevant error then I can tell Qualtrics [13:52:05] hmm, okay [13:52:08] thanks anomie [13:52:12] * YuviPanda heads out to study [13:52:14] cyall later [13:52:16] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:53:12] 03(mod) creation of new claims (and perhaps other edits) can be (auto)patrolled on wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47415 +comment (10tylerromeo) [13:53:21] sumanah: there is no error, just no styles at all because qualtrics is in some of the ghostery block lists [13:54:51] Ah. Was it still possible to fill it out, Nikerabbit? [13:54:58] (and submit it) [13:55:22] sumanah: possibly, I just disabled ghostery for time being once I realised it [13:55:28] OK. Thanks [13:59:19] 03(mod) Let sql command suffix the dbname given with _p and try again on failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48889 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:00:16] liangent: hey there, how's it going? [14:01:12] 03(mod) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626 (10Peter Bena) [14:01:14] 03(mod) (Tracking) Database replication services - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48930 (10Peter Bena) [14:01:43] 03(mod) RuntimeException for unknown data type id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48938 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:02:12] 03(mod) $HOME isn't set on webservers, causes jsub to try /$JOBNAME.out as output file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48726 normal->major (10Peter Bena) [14:02:29] freakolowsky: andre__ drdee felipe` greg-g jarry1250 lbenedix petan valhallasw yurik - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#What_I_did_in_the_hackathon_27993 - if you could just post a link there that would be great, to help other people follow up on your work [14:02:43] 03(mod) Include pagecounts dumps in datasets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48894 (10Peter Bena) [14:03:13] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Eugene Zelenko) [14:03:21] * yurik tries to think of anything useful he did at hackathon... [14:03:33] I archived my talk page [14:03:38] :P [14:03:40] yei!!! [14:04:05] this reminds me of high school assignments... how did i spend my summer [14:04:32] petan: Hey we don't have any RTL wikis in beta labs, do we? [14:04:36] haha yurik [14:05:01] RoanKattouw I think we have or we used to have [14:05:19] RoanKattouw it's possible they are gone as hashar deleted lot of them in order to make the updates faster [14:05:22] MatmaRex: this goes for you too! :) [14:05:33] yurik: you probably ended up teaching people something? [14:05:51] sumanah, oh yes! but i don't think most of it is printable [14:05:57] Amir1 is working with Amire80 (yes, two Amirs) to do RTL testing of VisualEditor and I think what he needs is an RTL wiki in beta [14:06:01] I'm about to enable VE in beta [14:06:23] Right after I find the time to deploy a config change in prod so the prod configs will work in beta too [14:06:27] Probably tomorrow [14:06:28] I got most wikis out of beta [14:06:37] there is a bug opened to enable arwiki again, I can do that [14:06:58] hashar: hmm were we supposed to setup translate on beta at som epoint? [14:07:06] That would be nice [14:07:07] sumanah: well, i haven't done many useful things this time [14:07:13] Nikerabbit: if you want to do it, sure :-D [14:07:24] Nikerabbit: it is all about enabling the extension somewhere isn't it ? [14:07:38] Even 1 is nice to link. [14:08:02] i think it was useful, but in a less tangible way - like establishing connections with the wikidata & pywiki teams, talking about our common goals, etc [14:08:15] Then saying that would be nice :) [14:08:25] heh, ok, will do after today's deployment [14:08:31] cool [14:08:39] don't want to break zero :) [14:08:48] * yurik is secretly planning to do it anyway [14:09:38] 03(mod) Modify the page= parameter in the RenameUser log to include target usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27210 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:09:57] I know that during the event I pointed several people to MatmaRex when they asked "who here is good at JS?" or similar questions [14:10:09] RoanKattouw: maybe I should setup a hebrew wiki instead of an arabic one? What do you think [14:10:18] ah we already have a he one damn [14:10:26] sumanah: yeah, me and lbenedix debugged some stuff [14:10:27] Arabic is something that Amir1 could use better, I think [14:10:33] MatmaRex: so that counts [14:11:33] sumanah: but it's nothing measurable or visible :) [14:11:35] I, for one, ran a bot for the first time, thanks to valhallasw & Maarten's workshop! [14:11:43] hashar: We have he already? [14:11:44] I didn't see it [14:12:00] MatmaRex: so what? :) [14:12:03] RoanKattouw: http://he.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ [14:12:04] sumanah: Amir1 speaks Persian actually, little Arabic [14:12:05] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Clicking on the 'Apply Settings' does not close the ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48898 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [14:12:12] (I made the same assumption and he corrected me) [14:12:12] RoanKattouw: I am corrected! [14:12:19] Amire80 speaks both he and ar [14:12:31] I think Moriel also speaks both he and ar [14:12:37] hashar: Cool! I guess it's not listed on the main page then? How do I get a list of all of them? [14:12:41] 03(mod) UserRights confusing error message when removing own rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48609 minor->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:12:42] Maybe I am wrong [14:12:48] 03(mod) Set up Arab wiki in beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48358 +comment (10hashar) [14:13:00] I'm wrong about a bunch of stuff this afternoon, not surprising if I am also wrong about what languages various GSoCers speak [14:13:05] 03(mod) WikiEditor Templates adds extra space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48652 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [14:13:11] RoanKattouw: http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:WikiMatrix or the all-labs.dblist file in mediawiki-config [14:13:15] 03(mod) RuntimeException for unknown data type id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48938 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:13:18] Awesome, thanks [14:13:24] Tomorrow we'll have VisualEditor in beta labs :) [14:13:39] RoanKattouw: http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix sorry [14:14:19] RoanKattouw: awesome :-D Are you going to use a dedicated parsoid instance or the one you are already using ? [14:15:10] I have one already [14:15:27] http://8000.deployment-parsoidcache2.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/ [14:15:37] That's the Varnish server actually, there's a Parsoid server behind that [14:15:49] Hmm wait [14:15:50] Crap [14:16:14] It's http://deployment-parsoidcache2.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/ for the cache, and http://8000.deployment-parsoid2.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/ for direct access [14:16:17] I got them confused [14:16:22] Jeremy Thurgood was really happy to hear about Parsoid and VE's architecture and I think he meant to talk with one of you about using your API, not sure whether he had a chance to talk with RoanKattouw or somebody [14:17:01] sumanah: I spoke to someone who I think may have been called Jeremy but about other things [14:17:09] Bearded South African? [14:17:10] This person was writing a Gadget inspired on the Teahouse form [14:17:16] No [14:17:21] I think you may have talked with Jake, RoanKattouw [14:17:27] The Wikipedia Adventure author [14:17:28] Right [14:17:33] RoanKattouw: whenever you get it done, fill an entry on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_cluster/status :-D [14:17:34] He was doing some tour thing... yeah that [14:18:28] sumanah really wasn't kidding when she said she will talk to everyone at hackathon... [14:18:41] hashar: except for translation memory, yeah [14:19:08] it was only ~150, 160 people [14:19:11] exactly!!! [14:19:32] i mean, if someone could remember 100,000 digits of Pi... [14:19:33] I think I missed a few, unfortunately [14:20:05] inconsivable! [14:20:43] so given that I had already met at least half of them, that's only about 25 people per day [14:21:09] * yurik is quickly going through his stash of stroopwafels [14:22:05] 03(mod) Implement "Templates used on this page" collapsing below edit window and the rest of Vector's footercleanup module in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43689 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:40:35] 03(mod) creation of new claims (and perhaps other edits) can be (auto)patrolled on wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47415 +comment (10krinklemail) [14:41:14] 03(NEW) "View or restore 3 deleted edits?" link is broken in the Cologne Blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48939 normal; MediaWiki: Page deletion; () [14:45:00] 03(mod) "View or restore # deleted edits?" link is broken in the Cologne Blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48939 (10the.anonymouse.wikipedia) [14:45:17] 03(NEW) Link in Email to page which title has dot at the ending is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48940 normal; MediaWiki: Email; () [14:49:27] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10federicoleva) [14:51:41] 03(NEW) Reference names should have whitespace stripped for the purposes of merging them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48941 minor; Parsoid: JS/General; () [14:52:57] sumanah: I am not sure I have found it yet! [14:53:18] addshore: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 ? [14:53:22] :D [14:53:39] I hadn't looked very hard yet :) [14:56:56] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko) [15:07:13] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10aklapper) [15:09:31] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10hoo) [15:11:42] 03(mod) no read access to s3 and s6 replication databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48890 summary; +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [15:11:59] 03(mod) Slower page loads on Commons after deploying Universal Language Selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48712 +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko) [15:13:09] hi [15:13:11] hi Juandev [15:13:21] are these points dependant each other: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast [15:14:29] 03(NEW) Semantic Compound Query with format=count throws exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48942 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticCompoundQueries; () [15:14:41] I don't know, Juandev - I just asked https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast#Sequence.3F and am pinging AaronSchulz to ask for an answer when he has time [15:18:12] 03(mod) "Add service group" should properly strip names of prefix "local-" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48699 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:21:13] 03(mod) Enable irc feed for wikitech.wikimedia.org site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34685 summary (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [15:26:09] 03(NEW) Add a user page link on Thanks notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48943 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [15:26:33] 03(mod) Add a user page link on Thanks notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48943 (10Fabrice Florin) [15:27:27] 03(mod) Add a user page link on Thanks notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48943 (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [15:28:13] 03(mod) Uploading new version of image fails to purge cache of thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48927 +comment (10maic274) [15:30:24] 03(mod) In recent changes, remove "rollback" link of pages the user can't edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48731 +comment (10krenair) [15:33:06] 03(mod) OGE: Make *.out and *.err unreadable by the public by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48818 normal->major; +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:33:40] 03(mod) labs needs a rdns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48539 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [15:34:02] 03(mod) tools cgi in user directories - add .cgi extension to ExecCGI option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48906 (10Peter Bena) [15:35:10] 03(mod) "Failed to create service group" error when creating service groups but group appears in list on Special:NovaProject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47336 +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:36:09] 03(mod) UID ranges for LDAP and system users overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35329 +comment (10Peter Bena) [15:38:29] hey there Silke_WMDE! Got a moment? [15:38:39] hey sumanah, sure. [15:38:47] How are you doing? [15:39:27] 03(NEW) SemanticResultFormats jqplotseries Javascript exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48944 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticResultFormats; () [15:39:35] sumanah: lets go over to a query [15:40:50] will do, Silke_WMDE - just wanted to thank you for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#Status_update_on_the_toolserver_follower_Tool_Labs and posting it to the lists as well [15:42:42] Silke_WMDE: would you be interested in turning that into a blog post, maybe combining with links to the slides in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013/Workshops#Using_Wikimedia_Labs.2C_migrating_from_Toolserver ? [15:42:52] on blog.wikimedia.org [15:44:16] 03(mod) Semantic Compound Query with format=count throws exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48942 +comment (10yaron57) [15:44:31] 03(mod) Interwiki redirects via URL and other 301s are indexed by Google search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26115 +comment (10federicoleva) [15:52:27] 03(mod) {{PAGESINCAT:Foo|subpages}} Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48745 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:52:57] 03(mod) Monitor effectiveness of HTCP purging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43449 +comment (10bblack) [15:54:53] 03(mod) {{PAGESINCAT:Foo|subpages}} Magic Word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48745 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [16:00:43] 03(mod) RuntimeException for unknown data type id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48938 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:02:49] 03(mod) RuntimeException for unknown data type id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48938 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:03:47] Separating references from text [16:03:47] like [16:03:47] According to scientists, the Sun is pretty big. [16:03:47] The Moon, however, is not so big. [16:03:47] ==Notes== [16:03:48] [16:03:48] E. Miller, The Sun, (New York: Academic Press, 2005), 23-5. [16:03:51] R. Smith, "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 46 (April 1978): 44-6. [16:03:51] [16:03:53] dont work for me [16:03:58] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 (10Marius Hoch) [16:03:58] 03(mod) Next wmf deployment (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38865 (10Marius Hoch) [16:04:00] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Marius Hoch) [16:04:02] Cite error: Invalid tag; no input is allowed. Use [16:04:02] Cite error: tags exist, but no tag was found [16:06:15] 03(mod) {{REVISIONxxx:Foo}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48746 (10Technical 13) [16:07:01] 03(mod) SemanticResultFormats jqplotseries Javascript exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48944 +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1) [16:09:33] sumanah: Tech News links to commits like "https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/mediawiki-config.git;a=commit;h=3e901f819813f9c7f71d9030596d218ccb8b2d89" ?! [16:15:18] Hey, does anyone know if the talks given at the Hackathon are already somewhere online? [16:17:24] Silke_WMDE: doubt it [16:17:51] 03(mod) Semantic Forms sfautoedit (and #autoedit) broken in 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48838 +comment (10jamie) [16:18:49] aude: because it's too early? [16:19:23] 03(mod) Feedback link on article pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42057 (10Matthias Mullie) [16:19:23] sun [16:19:45] unless they use something like ustream, yes too early [16:20:05] 03(mod) Identify which filters triggered auto-flag actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38460 (10Matthias Mullie) [16:20:13] 03(mod) Change the text in the feedback form to update privacy statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43237 (10Matthias Mullie) [16:21:09] 03(mod) puppet does not log to /var/log/puppet.log or /var/log/puppet/puppet.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47243 +comment (10abogott) [16:21:57] 03(mod) ganglia-monitor does not start (override_hostname not understood) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47244 +comment (10abogott) [16:24:00] 03(mod) Semantic Compound Query with format=count throws exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48942 +comment (10Jamie Thingelstad) [16:30:39] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10federicoleva) [16:37:26] Since upgrading to 1.21 I'm seeing some problems that appear to be in Resource Loader. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48944 opened. There seems to be some debate on this one, but I can confirm it worked before and now fails. [16:37:52] 03(mod) New page's patrol button should always be visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15936 +comment (10federicoleva) [16:38:42] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 (10Nemo) [16:38:43] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [16:38:44] 03(NEW) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [16:39:36] 03(mod) Semantic Compound Query with format=count throws exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48942 normal->minor; +comment (10Yaron Koren) [16:43:50] 03(mod) Semantic Maps 2.0.1.2 distance queries broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46371 +comment (10mitchell_neill) [16:55:14] 03(mod) Reference names should have whitespace stripped for the purposes of merging them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48941 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:55:20] jdlrobson: is gerrit slow for you? [16:55:55] AaronSchulz: haven't tried it today [16:55:58] but i wouldn't be surprised :) [16:56:36] 03(mod) Create branches in mediawiki/extensions/* for REL1_21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48837 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [16:57:39] 03(mod) Create branches in mediawiki/extensions/* for REL1_21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48837 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [17:05:33] 03(NEW) Add font size adjustment feature to the mobile front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48946 major; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [17:07:00] 03(mod) Add font size adjustment feature to the mobile front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48946 (10Gregory Swain) [17:07:14] 03(NEW) Install php5-gd on Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48947 enhancement; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [17:07:24] 03(mod) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [17:12:21] 03(mod) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 +comment (10Technical_13) [17:14:05] 03(mod) Users can't create files in tools's directories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48926 +comment (10Peter Bena) [17:14:07] 03(mod) Cannot write as "magnus" to my tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48910 +comment (10Peter Bena) [17:19:46] yaron:We moved the wiki to London. When I save the page it tells me: " Notice: Array to string conversion in /var/www/w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SQLStore/SMW_SQLStore3_Writers.php on line 383" But when I refresh the page it looks OK. Do we need to run data repair and upgrade? [17:20:10] 03(mod) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 +comment (10matma.rex) [17:20:45] natbrown: I don't know; I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. [17:21:00] :) Thanks! [17:31:18] 03(NEW) Requested add to special:linksearch - Search by namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48948 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [17:31:42] 03(mod) Burmese language name is not shown in the interlanguage links list in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28753 (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [17:32:24] 03(NEW) Performance: investigate cookie usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48949 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [17:32:28] 03(mod) Add mention notification threshold - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48882 (10bsitu) [17:33:22] is there a good way to debug a template? I've copied a template from one wiki to another, and I'm not sure why it isn't working right (missing extensions?) ? [17:37:04] 03(mod) Cannot write as "magnus" to my tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48910 +comment (10magnus.manske) [17:38:07] 03(mod) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 +comment (10Technical_13) [17:38:42] hi Hydrant [17:38:57] sumanah: hi [17:39:14] Hydrant: I'm not sure that I have the answer but I have some ideas of things that could help [17:39:15] check out Special:TemplateSandbox [17:39:25] also are you writing the template in wikitext (wiki markup) or Lua? [17:39:37] !template [17:39:37] For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems , !wptemplates [17:39:40] !copytemplate [17:39:40] For help copying templates from one wiki to another, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Copying_from_one_wiki_to_another >. [17:39:52] !wptemplates [17:39:53] To copy templates from Wikipedia, use Special:Export and check the "Include templates" option to get all the sub-templates, then upload the file with Special:Import on your wiki. You'll also likely have to install the ParserFunctions extension and install/enable HTML tidy. You also might need some CSS from Wikipedia's Common.css and Monobook.css. You'll also need a lot of patience. [17:39:58] !templateproblems | Hydrant [17:39:59] Hydrant: The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . Also make sure you copied dependency templates, see [17:40:29] okay, I did everything except for checking that I use Tidy [17:42:03] is there any way to check some of the basic info from LocalSettings.php of a remote site? [17:43:23] 03(mod) ApiUpload.php -- Async chunked upload fails when chunk is of file size but file is stashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48294 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:43:45] 03(mod) Enrolment is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48518 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [17:44:00] 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782 (10Jeroen De Dauw) [17:48:31] Hydrant: I don't know, sorry [17:48:49] no worries [17:48:52] thx for the help [17:49:13] Good luck Hydrant [17:49:24] 03(mod) Updates to ISO-codes for ku family dialects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37310 (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [17:49:25] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745 (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [17:49:31] mediawiki-l might be a good place to ask [17:49:58] 03(mod) automatic unicode conversion for Malayalam makes it difficult to link to external sites using old unicode sequences; want a tag to supress conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25623 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [17:54:23] 03(mod) Updates to ISO-codes for ku family dialects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37310 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:56:49] 03(mod) ApiUpload.php -- Async chunked upload fails when chunk is of file size but file is stashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48294 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [17:58:07] Hi Micru [17:58:23] hey sumanah! :) [17:58:57] sumanah, did you have a good return from Amsterdam? [17:59:03] I did! Uneventful, mostly :) [17:59:06] and you, Micru? [17:59:19] hi Micru [17:59:28] Micru: #wikimedia-e3 is: Editor engagement experiments channel [17:59:33] too many hours of flight, but yes, I was happy of being there :) [17:59:42] hey Nikerabbit! [18:00:04] sumanah, ok! I am joining [18:00:10] I'm glad you got to come, Micru :) please do let your fellow participants know to fill out the survey [18:00:40] oh, the survey... link? [18:01:54] 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [18:01:56] 03(mod) Enrolment is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48518 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [18:03:01] 03(mod) Enrollment is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48518 summary (10Prodego) [18:03:13] 03(mod) Firefox treats the Komi-Permyak (koi) language as if it was Korean (ko) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40492 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [18:06:41] 03(mod) Add mention notification threshold - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48882 +comment (10rkaldari) [18:10:01] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10greg) [18:16:39] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10jamie) [18:20:15] 03(mod) ganglia-monitor does not start (override_hostname not understood) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47244 +comment (10hashar) [18:21:40] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 (10spage) [18:24:58] Micru: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 has the link [18:25:21] sumanah, thanks! [18:25:41] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10aklapper) [18:25:46] Glad to help Micru! and if you can post in that talkpage thread about what you learned or accomplished, that would be cool too [18:26:36] sumanah, yes, I will post it, I am still sending all the follow-up emails that I have pending :) [18:26:54] thank you! awesome [18:29:46] 03(mod) Interwiki redirects via URL and other 301s are indexed by Google search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26115 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:30:23] 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [18:32:44] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10Jared Zimmerman) [18:33:01] 03(mod) Enrollment is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48518 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:33:37] 03(mod) UserRights confusing error message when removing own rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48609 +comment (10elecbullet) [18:34:16] 03(mod) Enhancements to API query siteinfo skin information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47216 +comment (10jamie) [18:34:40] 03(mod) Create branches in mediawiki/extensions/* for REL1_21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48837 +comment (10mah) [18:39:54] question: I'm intalling Scribunto on a wiki that is already using namespace 828/829. Should I move my namespace out of the way? There isn't an obvious way to tell Scribunto to use another id in LocalSettings. [18:41:38] hi thingles [18:41:46] * sumanah asks anomie to take a look at Jamie's question ^ [18:41:58] sumanah: hey there... thanks [18:42:16] * anomie assumes thingles is Jamie? [18:42:22] looking at the Scribunto codebase 828/829 are hardcoded all over the place... [18:42:35] anomie: yes, thingles = Jamie Thingelstad [18:42:43] hardcoded? it doesn't even use a constant? [18:43:07] looking at Scribunto.namespaces.php [18:43:15] 03(mod) phantom log entries for "course updates" that haven't happened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44561 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [18:44:23] thingles: Yeah, there's not really any way to configure it. See bug 37641 for why it's that way. [18:44:28] well, Scribunto.php does have `define( 'NS_MODULE', 828 );` [18:44:42] 03(mod) Cannot write as "magnus" to my tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48910 +comment (10CBM) [18:45:39] so is there a documented "dark magic" way of moving an existing namespace? [18:47:08] wouldn't be a bad idea for Scribunto to detect that that namespace is already in use and issue a warning and disable itself. :-\ [18:47:12] thingles: you could remove the NS, run namespaceDupes.php script, then re-add it with a different id and run the script again [18:47:15] DB queries [18:47:23] (that should probably work) [18:47:24] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 (10spage) [18:48:37] (by "remove" and "add" i mean modify appropriate lines in LocalSettings) [18:49:17] MatmaRex: thanks for the tip.. [18:52:12] 03(mod) ganglia-monitor does not start (override_hostname not understood) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47244 +comment (10hashar) [18:52:33] are there sets of namespace ID's that should be explicitly avoided, or are reserved? [18:52:37] I figured I was safe in the higher digits [18:52:40] thingles: anything <100, preferably [18:52:55] 03(mod) ganglia-monitor does not start (override_hostname not understood) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47244 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [18:52:55] s/preferably/for sure/ [18:53:09] thingles: i think there was a matrix with ids used by some extensions somewhere [18:53:12] !namespace [18:53:12] See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces for user help and documentation, and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace for administration. For adding namespaces, see !extranamespace [18:53:13] I wouldn't dare make one <100... but I figured >500 was 'user space' [18:54:01] maybe should be like ports and stay about 1024. :-) [18:54:25] thingles: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces [18:54:28] avoid these :) [18:54:57] oi [18:55:03] thingles: i think you should usually use the 100..199 range [18:55:13] but apparently a bunch of extensions used those, too [18:55:21] that's what Wikimedia wikis do, anyway [18:55:23] looks that way [18:55:37] thanks for the pointer.. didn't realize there was a "user zone" at 100-199 [18:57:06] I've got full DB admin access so I think I'll investigate changing Namespace ID's at that level.. [18:57:19] 03(mod) Add ?useformat=mobile to privacy policy link on the bottom of all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48857 (10Max Semenik) [18:58:47] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:01:37] 03(NEW) Some of my tools don't have .my.cnf / can't create databases in tools-db - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48950 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [19:02:51] so on the SQL level it looks like namespaces are only ever referenced as ID's...and those are just looked up to what is defined in PHP on display [19:05:29] it looks like 13 places where the namespaces are kept that would need an update on a SQL level.. a bit scary. :-\ [19:05:45] gonna look at namespaceDupes.php again. ;_) [19:09:47] 03(mod) puppet does not log to /var/log/puppet.log or /var/log/puppet/puppet.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47243 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [19:10:20] I'm not sure that script would help [19:10:46] That fixes like NS 0, Foobar:APage to NS_FOOBAR, APage [19:13:51] hey [19:14:16] ola, hashar [19:14:34] ahh [19:14:40] need to create the gerritclone repo [19:17:08] 03(mod) Tool to check ZIM integrity needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47407 +comment (10kelson) [19:19:25] 03(mod) phantom log entries for "course updates" that haven't happened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44561 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:20:50] mlitn: Micru: Mr. Mullie, meet Micru [19:21:00] 03(mod) Uploading new version of image fails to purge cache of thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48927 (10Andre Klapper) [19:21:00] (alliteration is fun) [19:22:24] sumanah, could you please tell me more? :) [19:23:03] 03(mod) need "agree to ToS" checkbox in the Labs createaccount page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48768 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:23:05] Micru: :) now I will stop just using the letter M everywhere ;-) mlitn is Matthias Mullie, who is a WMF person I wanted you to meet at the event [19:24:32] 03(mod) need "agree to ToS" checkbox in the Labs createaccount page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48768 +comment (10abogott) [19:24:37] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10tylerromeo) [19:24:42] sumanah, could you please refresh my memory about what was it? Was it about the "content card"? [19:25:28] Micru: I just know you wanted to talk with someone in Editor Engagement [19:25:35] sorry, I wanted to mention that [19:27:02] sumanah, totally true :) I talked with ori, and I was preparing an email for him right now :) maybe I should cc mlitn too? The topic in question is: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inte-project_card_mockup.png [19:27:29] Micru: why not just write to the ee mailing list? [19:27:35] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ee [19:27:36] ^ StevenW [19:28:39] sumanah, if I join one mailing list more my head is likely to explode in six thousand thirty two pieces :) [19:28:42] 03(mod) Grouped edits not patrollable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43977 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:28:50] 03(mod) After removing your own UserRights, you get an error message "You do not have permission to do that" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48609 summary (10Andre Klapper) [19:29:08] ok Micru :) [19:29:29] yeah, cc Matthias and Ori and Steven, in my opinion, but maybe ask them to fwd or cc the list? [19:31:06] 03(mod) PdfHandler Fatal exception when used with MediaWiki 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48834 +comment (10greg) [19:31:06] 03(mod) Add font size adjustment feature to the mobile front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48946 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon) [19:31:44] 03(mod) Performance: investigate cookie usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48949 +comment (10jrobson) [19:31:51] 03(mod) UID ranges for LDAP and system users overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35329 (10Andre Klapper) [19:33:21] 03(mod) Implement button for marking all N changes as patrolled in a multi-edit span diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8697 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:34:27] 03(mod) jsmin+ is too memory hungry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29784 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [19:34:51] 03(mod) Make new user login/account creation the only version after testing and MW namespace cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46333 +comment (10mflaschen) [19:39:10] 03(mod) need "agree to ToS" checkbox in the Labs createaccount page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48768 +comment (10Jack Phoenix) [19:45:15] freakolowsky: I am merging in your oracle patch to support persistent connections :D [19:49:12] 03(mod) Grouped edits not patrollable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43977 +comment (10Nemo) [19:49:49] 03(mod) In recent changes, remove "rollback" link of pages the user can't edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48731 +comment (10menoush25) [19:50:43] 03(mod) Special:EntityData should apply content negotiation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44576 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:51:03] 03(mod) In recent changes, remove "rollback" link of MediaWiki pages for non-admin users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48731 summary (10Meno25) [19:54:28] 03(mod) CologneBlue skin issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46949 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:54:28] 03(mod) cologneblue not using placeholder attribute for mw-searchinput - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47475 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:56:57] 03(mod) jsmin+ is too memory hungry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29784 (10Carl Fürstenberg) [19:57:43] 03(mod) jsmin+ is too memory hungry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29784 +comment (10ori) [19:58:03] hashar: whoop! [19:58:22] 03(mod) After removing your own UserRights, you get an error message "You do not have permission to do that" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48609 +comment (10elecbullet) [19:58:37] 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308 +comment (10dixond) [19:59:33] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10csteipp) [19:59:33] freakolowsky: :-] [20:02:59] 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308 +comment (10Dmytro Dziuma) [20:03:17] 03(mod)
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have the same font size at default settings in some skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48671 +easy; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:04:54] hashar: if you have any more time, could you look at 65424 and 65490 ... those two woul need to be backported into 1.21 [20:05:07] linnkkkkkk [20:05:12] !g 65424 [20:05:12] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,65424,n,z [20:05:16] !g 65490 [20:05:16] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,65490,n,z [20:07:28] freakolowsky: +2ed the simplest one [20:07:36] the one involving regex I have no idea :-] [20:07:45] 03(mod) "View or restore # deleted edits?" link is broken in the Cologne Blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48939 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:07:46] 03(mod) CologneBlue skin issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46949 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:09:23] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [20:10:23] who can i tag as reviewrs on these db related changes anyway [20:10:29] Nikerabbit: I want to kill something else again! $wgPasswordSalt [20:12:05] hashar ... static method + text ... i'll do that [20:12:20] freakolowsky: yeah that would let you ensure it works as expected :D [20:13:07] well i did test it so all the correct formats go trough :D [20:13:19] but i see the point ... there should be tests [20:13:28] this way other people can add more tests [20:13:39] or change the regex without having to ask you to retest hehe [20:13:50] 03(mod) Add ?useformat=mobile to privacy policy link on the bottom of all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48857 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:13:50] put it somewhere under tests/phpunit/includes/installer/ [20:14:08] sure [20:14:19] freakolowsky: something like OracleInstallerTest.php [20:14:28] freakolowsky: have you ever wrote phpunit tests ? [20:15:03] nah .... but i have some dba stuff to do in the morning so a lot of time to waste :D [20:15:32] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [20:15:57] !wg PasswordSalt [20:15:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPasswordSalt [20:15:57] u know ... run a command ... wait and watch ... sun another command ... wait and watch ... dba tools need FFWD button [20:19:26] 03(mod) Switching languages on Wikipedia Zero does not show warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38862 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [20:19:42] Pft, the documentation on that variable is 100% false too. [20:20:37] 03(mod) Switching to a non-whitelisted language shows wrong error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44436 (10dr0ptp4kt) [20:22:16] 03(NEW) Debug Toolbar does not pop on bad chars in debug text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48951 minor; MediaWiki: Logging; () [20:23:39] 03(mod) Debug Toolbar does not pop on bad chars in debug text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48951 (10physikerwelt) [20:23:52] 03(mod) "View or restore # deleted edits?" link is broken in the Cologne Blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48939 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:24:27] 03(mod) Warning message for unsupported carrier should link to the specific page requested - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48855 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [20:24:28] 03(mod) Visiting en.zero.wikipedia.org while not part of the Zero network needs further thought: Big red banner, restricted to particular IP addresses/ranges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48921 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [20:25:22] 03(mod) Zero doesn't clear carrier options from cache when config page is updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46429 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [20:25:56] fix it! [20:26:07] why do you announce your murders to the bunny? [20:28:28] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10mflaschen) [20:30:03] 03(mod) Some users get unwantedly logged out on it.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48646 +comment (10andyrom75) [20:34:50] 03(mod) Unexpected
tags in mobile diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48760 +comment (10jrobson) [20:41:51] 03(mod) Interwiki redirects via URL and other 301s are indexed by Google search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26115 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [20:45:03] 03(mod) Clicking on image on description page doesn't do anything - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48901 normal->15enhancement; +design; +comment (10Jon) [20:48:29] 03(mod) Extracts need to filter out more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48917 (10Max Semenik) [20:57:26] 03(NEW) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 enhancement; MediaWiki: Logging; () [20:58:02] 03(mod) Impossible to patrol new page with subsequent edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48928 +comment (10hoo) [20:59:26] MatmaRex: thx for the help on plwiki [20:59:37] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 +comment (10Jared Zimmerman) [21:00:16] StevenW: sure :) [21:00:36] They can also just comment out the messages until the l10n update rolls out [21:01:48] 03(mod) Parsoid: Preserve HTML entities in {{DEFAULTSORT}} values on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46470 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:06:53] 03(mod) Install php5-gd on Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48947 (10Peter Bena) [21:07:22] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:11:44] 03(mod) UploadWizard broken in Opera 12.15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48091 +comment (10rainerrillke) [21:11:52] 03(mod) ULS enables IPA by default for English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48642 major->normal; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:12:11] 03(mod) Special:ZeroRatedMobileAccess doesn't work without javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48752 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [21:12:21] 03(mod) Parsoid: Preserve HTML entities in {{DEFAULTSORT}} values on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46470 (10ssastry) [21:12:53] 03(mod) Reference names should have whitespace stripped for the purposes of merging them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48941 (10ssastry) [21:13:28] 03(mod) Parsoid: DOM for template objects should expose template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48663 (10ssastry) [21:13:52] 03(mod) Visiting en.zero.wikipedia.org while not part of the Zero network needs further thought: Big red banner, restricted to particular IP addresses/ranges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48921 +comment (10abaso) [21:20:05] Goddamnit... I can't find a bug that I remember being in bugzilla. [21:27:16] 03(mod) Enhancements to API query siteinfo skin information (skipped usable default) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47216 summary; +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [21:27:21] Hey folks, anyone up for a review of a tiny extension? [21:30:31] 03(mod) Enhancements to API query siteinfo skin information (skipped usable default) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47216 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [21:35:59] 03(mod) Can't view source of empty MediaWiki page on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48935 +comment (10rainerrillke) [21:42:18] 03(mod) Prevent zero.wikipedia.org from being indexed by search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48856 +comment (10dr0ptp4kt) [21:52:29] 03(mod) Update the - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48945 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:55:09] 03(mod) User login and signup forms don't look great in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47698 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:55:10] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:56:54] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 +comment (10mflaschen) [21:57:22] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 +comment (10mflaschen) [22:02:23] Danny_B, there? [22:03:53] hi waldir -- thank you for your very complete "what I did at the hackathon" report on the talk page [22:04:29] it was very useful and helped me understand how helpful the event was to you! I wish I'd gotten to chat with you more but it sounds like you were having a very high-intensity event! [22:05:01] sumanah, no problem! it was a nice incentive to produce a personal log, which sometimes I am lazy to do :) [22:05:55] yeah, I was actually going to talk to you so I could find people for the other stuff I had planned, but I ended up not having any extra time for that :P [22:06:04] oh wow :/ [22:06:37] I read about your skins odyssey and feel as though there should be exciting background music for a "training montage" scene in a film [22:06:49] Hahahah [22:06:54] like "Eye of the Tiger" or "The Final Countdown" [22:07:13] Well, unfortunately I might be ruining the adventure for others :P [22:08:09] What, because there is actually documentation now? ;-) [22:08:44] Yeah.. so that'll ruin the fun of "discovery" :P [22:08:55] I should point out that the documentation isn't finished yet [22:09:12] I know you are joking so I will not actually go into a boring "there are many kinds of fun" lecture [22:10:03] I am actually vehemently against the "reading the code and finding stuff yourself is the best way to learn" principle that some people seem to have [22:10:57] I find it much more efficient to use the "standing on the shoulders of giants" principle [22:11:41] I think if those people prefer to learn that way, then I am happy that they can learn that way, but there are also lots of other people who have other preferred learning approaches, and I want to make sure we cater to them as well [22:11:42] In fact, I have lots of plans for mediawiki documentation, but they're still being developed; see http://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Waldir/Docs [22:12:15] waldir: have you already seen the "three developer personas" ? [22:12:31] * sumanah also likes to stand on the shoulders of giants [22:12:38] hi liangent! hope you are doing well [22:12:44] yeah, there will always be people who'll skip reading the instruction manual and jump right into assembling their new toy. But having a proper manual allows both those and those who prefer reading it first, to have their way :) [22:12:53] yes :) 100% agreed [22:12:59] waldir: you know that liangent is also into skins work, right? [22:13:12] sumanah, not sure but it doesn't sound too unfamiliar. do you have a link handy? [22:13:17] https://blogs.msdn.com/b/susantodd/archive/2011/05/06/quot-people-in-context-quot-a-new-way-to-look-at-personas.aspx [22:13:20] hmm, I didn't! I'll add him to my list :D [22:13:26] her [22:13:47] oh, right :) [22:13:52] (I didn't know) [22:14:01] I had also misunderstood previously. [22:14:38] Ah, yes, I think someone shared that link in the planet or in the mailing lists [22:14:44] So, I think you and I, waldir, are sort of like "systematic" or "pragmatic" rather than "opportunistic" [22:14:55] I don't like the "pragmatic" label but can't think of one better [22:15:25] yeah, I think you're right but let me refresh with a glance [22:16:45] (meanwhile, see if you agree with this slightly different categorization: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Waldir/Docs#Proposed_structure) [22:17:44] 03(mod) Localization of namespace names on ukWikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48308 +comment (10tomasz) [22:18:54] yes, definitely pragmatic, although I agree the naming wasn't the best. It might be because the categorization involves more than one axis, but I'll have to think about that some more [22:19:15] also those 1-paragraph descriptors aren't as deep as the full explanation [22:20:43] waldir: I think it might be a good idea for you to ask https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:KatieIreneC and Yury Katkov what they think - they are an education researcher (studying how people learn tech skills) and a MediaWiki enterprise community shepherd, respectively [22:20:54] I think your categories are reasonable ones to start with! [22:21:55] Nice, I will contact them :) [22:22:10] cool :) [22:22:43] sumanah: hi [22:22:58] It's really cool to have you make these connections. It really enables potential collaborations that would likely go unnoticed otherwise [22:22:59] hi liangent! I am about to leave IRC to eat some dinner, but wanted to wave hello [22:23:09] :D glad to help, waldir [22:23:12] sumanah: :) [22:23:17] 03(mod) Readability of login and signup forms in low contrast / low light could be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47777 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:23:20] I don't think I did much in skinning actually [22:23:36] StevenW: hi [22:23:39] liangent: I remember you *were* interested in it. [22:23:48] And congrats on your GSoC acceptance liangent [22:23:56] +1 [22:23:57] sumanah: thanks [22:24:03] liangent, I'd be happy if you could just review my notes for correctness against whatever skin knowledge you have :) [22:24:14] StevenW: I don't really understand your message https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Liangent&oldid=26707740&diff=cur [22:24:28] You run liangent adminbot right? [22:24:29] waldir: any link? [22:24:35] StevenW: right [22:25:03] liangent: hope to see you at Wikimania! [22:25:14] liangent, it's not finished yet, but you can check the current version here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Waldir/Docs#Proposed_structure [22:25:50] it's openly editable so feel free to add comments or fix any mistakes [22:25:56] liangent: I was saying thank you for the localization work it did https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/Liangent-adminbot [22:26:10] with all the createacct messages [22:26:22] (specifically, I would like a review in the "Attempt at overview" section) [22:26:26] subbu: Oren_Bochman Lydia_WMDE https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#What_I_did_in_the_hackathon_27993 if you have time to add a note or a link that would be cool [22:26:27] 03(NEW) API siteinfo skins should use English skin names in * instead of the value in $wgValidSkinNames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48953 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [22:26:35] StevenW: ah that's to workaround some language converter issues [22:26:39] * sumanah goes to eat :) [22:26:51] 03(mod) Enhancements to API query siteinfo skin information (skipped usable default) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47216 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [22:27:01] sumanah: I don't really think I'll attend this year now [22:27:12] oh why not? we'd love to see you there [22:28:06] sumanah: maybe due to some time conflicts [22:28:11] oh :( [22:28:24] sumanah: also, traveling to HK is not the same as traveling in one country here :( [22:28:38] if there is ANY way to get around those conflicts, please do, liangent - it will be valuable to see you and work with you. but I understand if it's basically impossible [22:28:46] ok, I have to go, talk later! [22:29:36] 03(mod) Remove IP throttle for account creation (provide override whitelist via a MediaWiki extension?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25000 (10Tyler Romeo) [22:29:39] 03(mod) Implement configuration database aka configuration management aka no shell excuse (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26992 (10Tyler Romeo) [22:29:40] 03(mod) Config Overhaul - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36370 (10Tyler Romeo) [22:29:59] waldir: whoa... that looks surprisingly coherent for a MediaWiki docs page :) [22:30:42] 03(NEW) Add page for listing and removing throttle overrides - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48954 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ThrottleOverride; () [22:30:44] MatmaRex, which one? the skin-related google doc, or my /Docs user subpage? [22:31:18] I am looking for a function that does the Sanitizer magic for me. Is there a function that removes all java script in a string that should be put to output [22:31:21] the /Docs [22:31:50] physikerwelt: Sanitizer::removeHTMLtags() ? [22:32:13] hm, that's marked as @private, though [22:32:20] Ah, glad to hear that :) It's still rather unstructured actually; I hoped to be able to work on that in the hackathon but ended up working mostly in the skin docs [22:33:31] 03(mod) NUMBEROFARTICLES on Hebrew Wikivoyage includes pages from "help:" name space, and maybe other name spaces as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48685 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [22:33:54] That removes all tags and replaces them with < [22:33:55] etc [22:35:49] someone told me that there sould be such a function for the svg output [22:35:53] physikerwelt: if you just want to whitelist things like a 'href' on an , then there is a protocol whitelist in core [22:35:57] liangent, oh, I copied the wrong url! Sorry, here's the correct one: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18fvyoCjPiHuJTJmmlcwZ9rBykkhZSbn_--W0z5gVbTQ [22:36:35] (trying to blacklist javascript: uris is a bad idea) [22:36:50] (as in, not gonna work) [22:37:48] waldir: it's not late :p I haven't reading it yet because I saw it's not a short article [22:37:52] but the new one seems longer [22:37:54] Whitelisting all the http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/ elements will take for ever [22:39:07] liangent, as I said, it's not ready for consumption yet; I'll provide a more compact version/summary (of both documents actually) when I start requesting feedback/review [22:39:23] physikerwelt: what is it you're doing? [22:39:33] liangent: but right now you can just take a look at the "Attempt at overview" section of the google doc, which is at the very end [22:39:47] physikerwelt: as in, what do you want to achieve? [22:40:45] that's what will hopefully become a coherent and comprehensive text, which can replace [[Manual:Skins]] :) [22:40:56] I wanted to have more secure mathml output [22:41:05] waldir: yup [22:41:05] and strip away possible bad elements [22:41:18] Danny_B, I am home :P [22:41:27] :-) [22:41:34] so am i [22:41:41] csteipp pointed me to this example http://html5sec.org/#130 [22:41:45] I actually lost the bus at the airport, had to wait almost 4h for the next one, because I had bought the ticket in advance :/ [22:42:16] but I managed to find a power plug and wifi, and got some work done while I waited :) [22:43:44] physikerwelt: generally speaking, blacklists suck [22:44:08] physikerwelt: you should probably whitelist appropriate elements [22:45:07] physikerwelt: removeHTMLtags() accepts some interesting attributes, wouldn't you be able to use that [22:45:08] ? [22:45:25] i can't believe there isn't a plain list of mathml tags anywhere on the internet. [22:45:37] waldir: we had a delay and my luggage was broken. again. so i had to reclaim it. so came home 2 hrs later than expected... [22:45:38] !class Sanitizer [22:45:38] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classSanitizer.html [22:46:08] Danny_B, oh, sorry to hear that :/ [22:46:12] I'm not sure if it's the right way to go... I have the feeling that a core function that decideds what is accaptable and what not would be better [22:46:15] same here [22:46:25] apart from that, how was the rest of the wait in the airport? [22:46:39] but the wine survived \o/ [22:47:04] Heheh nice :D [22:47:51] waldir: I added one comment and nothing more [22:48:03] liangent, thanks, I'll check it out :) [22:50:01] liangent, yeah, that makes sense. I'll probably understand it more clearly once I check the code. [22:50:36] In any case, I will contact you again once I get the document into a more coherent draft. [23:00:50] hey folks. I has a quick question here. http://www.phantasmgames.org/gr/wiki/index.php?title=Solar_Charms [23:01:14] See beneath my sidebar, the contribute section? it's... rendering underneath, as opposed to at the bottom, for some reason. [23:01:32] Where in the code does this show up? The text is: Contribute (newline) Gunstar Rising's pages can be edited. (newline) Is this page incomplete? Is there anything wrong? [23:01:53] I'm new at working with Mediawiki and dunno where to find this chunk. [23:01:57] Note: I'm using the Nimbus Skin. [23:03:06] 03(NEW) Don't provide a h1 element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48955 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [23:18:24] 03(NEW) Display of localized optional messages broken on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48956 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [23:20:35] I guess that's a no. [23:30:44] 03(mod) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [23:31:15] 03(mod) Improve message source fallback flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1495 +comment (10Nemo) [23:31:15] 03(mod) Display of localized optional messages broken on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48956 (10Nemo) [23:37:16] 03(mod) The situation with $.collapsibleTabs and its Vector ext. counterpart sucks badly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44385 +comment (10matma.rex) [23:37:56] 03(mod) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [23:39:21] 03(mod) Link in Email to page which title has dot at the ending is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48940 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [23:40:22] superm401, pretty sure the debug toolbar is full of private info [23:40:47] see the SQL queries section [23:40:53] 03(mod) Display of localized optional messages broken on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48956 +comment (10Nemo) [23:42:00] Krenair, oh, I see, it can't be used in production (just verified it's already off on WMF cluster). [23:42:27] 03(mod) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 +comment (10mflaschen) [23:43:13] yo folks. quick question. [23:44:14] superm401, debug toolbar on in production? haha :) [23:44:15] http://www.phantasmgames.org/gr/wiki/index.php?title=Traits <--- do you see the 'Contribute, pages can be edited, is there anything wrong, change it?' thing showing up underneath my sidebar? how do I relocate or remove this? I've been unable to figure out what part of MediaWiki's code produces it. [23:44:33] Krenair, you can tell, I haven't really used it. :) [23:46:21] Oraculo, http://www.phantasmgames.org/gr/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Nimbus-pages-can-be-edited [23:46:21] Oraculo, when you see text strings like that and want to find out where they come from, uselang=qqx is often helpful [23:46:21] 03(mod) Display of localized optional messages broken on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48956 +comment (10mfwarburg) [23:46:41] so e.g. http://www.phantasmgames.org/gr/wiki/index.php?title=Traits&uselang=qqx [23:46:42] Krenair's right. So in this case I used http://www.phantasmgames.org/gr/wiki/index.php?title=Traits&uselang=qqx [23:46:48] Jinx. :) [23:46:49] ---ooooooh [23:46:52] *checks this* [23:47:04] That's nimbus-pages-can-be-edited [23:47:15] ... that is pretty awesome. [23:47:23] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. it is exactly what I was hoping would exist. [23:47:37] 03(mod) JobQueue does not scale for TTMServer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48164 +comment (10aschulz4587) [23:48:18] If you want to completely remove the text, try changing that page to '-' [23:48:45] IIRC this completely disables the message(? - try it out :P) [23:48:55] 03(mod) JobQueue does not scale for TTMServer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48164 +comment (10aschulz4587) [23:49:27] :) I appreciate the advice.