[00:00:41] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/mediawiki-config.git;a=shortlog [00:00:48] oooh, this is broken now. nice to know. [00:01:17] gitweb is dead [00:02:45] I noticed ;) [00:02:59] gotta update some links I guess... [00:03:19] redirects would have been nice :( [00:03:37] Anyone willing to help with a VisualEditor problem? [00:04:36] hexmode: they are planned [00:04:48] why, my links are broken /now/ [00:05:14] because shit happens [00:11:20] Well Cool urls don't change, and we were worried we were becoming too hipster [00:12:33] Does anyone know why updating Visual Editor would cause it to stop working? [00:12:57] Updating things is generally when stuff breaks [00:13:21] 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [00:13:46] bawolff: You must be a lawyer [00:14:11] * bawolff is a developer [00:14:21] I break stuff by updating it on an almost daily basis :P [00:14:35] bawolff: Well, the answer you gave me is 100% correct yet absolutely useless :P [00:14:50] Just last week i updated mysqld on my laptop, and then it stopped booting [00:15:48] FastLizard4: true, but you're also probably get a better answer if you include how visual editor is broken, etc (Except not from me, since I know squat about visual editor) [00:17:17] Actually you'll get the best answer during the normal working hours of the visual editor team, since I don't think too many people outside the team are very familar with visual editor internals [00:19:31] FastLizard4: Ping re. VisualEditor issues, if I can be of help. [00:19:54] James_F: Ahh, hello :) [00:20:02] Helps that I have it as a watchword. :-) [00:20:06] hehe [00:20:21] recently updated VisualEditor across three MediaWikis (all 1.21) to the latest master, and it's now mysteriously disappeared [00:20:35] The edit tab no longer points to VisualEditor, the edit-source tab is also missing [00:20:50] FastLizard4: What browser? We brought in a new blacklist/whitelist system which should be more expansive, but might be broken for you. [00:21:00] James_F: Chrome 29 I believe [00:21:08] FastLizard4: Oh, also, which relies on MW 1.22wmf6. [00:21:20] Ahh [00:21:22] FastLizard4: We use jquery.client in MW core, but patched that. [00:21:23] Well, that would explain it :P [00:21:30] So yeah, if you didn't update core you'd get nothing. [00:21:31] Sorry. :-) [00:21:31] Also, Chrome Version 28.0.1500.37 beta-m [00:21:45] Eh, it's okay, it does answer my question though, so thanks :) [00:23:00] James_F: Oh, one more question if you know the answer [00:23:18] * James_F coughs pointedly at the "please don't use this" warnings on VisualEditor's MW.org page. ;-) [00:23:21] Sure. [00:23:28] Are the wmf branches usable outside of WMF wikis? [00:23:48] Or do they contain special features and that sort of thing? [00:24:23] FastLizard4: they're generally usable. [00:24:42] Okay [00:24:50] I think I might give that a try then :) [00:24:58] Thanks for your help, both of you :) [00:25:07] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10aklapper) [00:25:09] James_F: And if we all followed that warning, it wouldn't be much fun now, would it? ;P [00:25:36] * James_F grins. [00:26:31] FastLizard4: Anyway, yes, MW core alpha branches should be OK to use outside of WMF, but they'll have random feature changes and maintenance scripts needing to be run which you'll need to spot by looking at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments etc. [00:26:46] Ahh, I figured there'd be a catch :P [00:26:54] Sorry. ;-) [00:26:59] It's okay :P [00:27:11] The live hacks used to semi stop making it work outside wmf [00:27:21] For now I'm just going to bisect Visual Editor and go back to the last working revision :P [00:27:23] although last time I tried was about a year ago [00:28:26] FastLizard4: I can do better than that. [00:29:10] FastLizard4: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66993/ is the breaking change. [00:29:16] But bisect is fun :P [00:29:25] FastLizard4: But VE relies on wmf4 for other reasons, IIRC. [00:29:37] FastLizard4: Just, less-obviously-broken, probably. [00:29:54] James_F: Actually, up until now I've had zero problems with it or Parsoid on my wikis [00:29:55] We patch core as we come across additional needs. [00:30:26] And by the way, Visual Editor is really coming along nicely :D [00:30:39] So good work :) [00:30:45] FastLizard4: careful, you'll make him happy [00:30:49] FastLizard4: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/60450/ for example is needed by the image-insertion code. [00:30:55] FastLizard4: Thank you. :-) [00:31:10] ori-l: Why, what's he do when he's happy? :P [00:31:15] FastLizard4: Of course, my job is to take the blame, not the credit; you should thank the dev team. [00:31:46] James_F: I'll leave a note on the Feedback page, and consider this positive blame :P [00:32:01] * James_F grins. [00:32:10] OK, I guess https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:merged+owner:jforrester@wikimedia.org+project:mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor,n,z is not blank, but still. [00:32:36] Now, onto the next subject [00:32:43] Who do we mob to fix gitblit? :P [00:34:45] FastLizard4: ^demon :-) [00:35:01] Ahh, that's right [00:35:06] * FastLizard4 grabs a pitchfork :P [00:35:47] 03(mod) Creating a mailing list for the Moroccan's local chapter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49251 +comment (10ayoub.dardory) [00:38:41] James_F: By the way, I finished the bisect, and it pinned https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/67082/ as the revision that broke VisualEditor for me [00:39:19] FastLizard4: Hmm, yes, technically that's true, because the one I flagged was mis-+2-ed early before it actually stopped you. :-) [00:39:33] Ahh, I see [00:39:49] Well, thanks again for all your help :) [00:44:40] 03(NEW) Add physikerwelt to Jenkins unit testing whitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49348 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [00:44:51] FastLizard4: Of course. [00:49:58] 03(mod) Add physikerwelt to Jenkins unit testing whitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49348 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:56:05] 03(mod) Patrolling through API is not possible any more due to the removal of rcid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49259 +comment (10hoo) [00:57:32] [00:57:56] special:whatlinkshere ? [00:58:56] More like within a template. [00:59:00] which ought to be 'special:whatlinksthere', really. [00:59:23] Oh, d'oh [01:01:33] Moments one regrets asking the question, because it's so obvious you shouldn't have asked it. [01:15:46] 03(mod) Test failing on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49343 +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1) [01:23:49] 03(mod) Configure beta and MW.org to have $wgVisualEditorEnableExperimentalCode = true; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49084 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:23:57] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor alpha on all Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49089 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:41:38] 03(mod) Jenkins doesn't run unit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49330 +comment (10MWJames) [01:58:15] [02:04:10] ecmabot-wm: You heloping us with our .js files, or offering us skin cream? [02:04:11] DanielFriesen: There is no command: You heloping us with our .js files, or offering us skin cream? [02:04:49] 03(NEW) put AllPages in proper numerical order for namespaces using Wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49349 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [02:08:08] 03(mod) Provide a special page which lists all items sorted by id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49349 +need-volunteer; summary; +comment (10Marius Hoch) [02:17:17] ecmabot-wm: caniuse border-radius [02:17:17] Krinkle: Can I Use CSS3 Border-radius (rounded corners)? [IE3 9+ | FF3 4+ | Chrome3 5+ | Opera3 10.5+ | Safari3 5+ | iOS3 4.0-4.1+ | Android3 2.2+] Overall: 85.0% 2 [02:17:39] ecmabot-wm: commands [02:17:39] Krinkle: Valid commands are: ecmabot-wm:caniuse, ecmabot-wm:ciu, ecmabot-wm:commands, ecmabot-wm:ecma, ecmabot-wm:help, ecmabot-wm:ping, ecmabot-wm:source [02:19:00] >> var a = (1 + 2).toFixed(10).split(); a.push('yippeekayay'); a [02:19:00] Krinkle: (object) ['3.0000000000', 'yippeekayay'] [02:19:19] ecmabot-wm: ecma strict mode [02:19:19] Krinkle: Found: 10.1.1 Strict Mode Code [02:19:35] DanielFriesen: Something like that :) We've been using it in -dev and -visualeditor for a while, figured I'd make it join here as well for those who want to use it. [02:21:01] ecmabot-wm: help caniuse [02:21:01] Krinkle: Search the caniuse.com database. Usage: caniuse border-radius [02:21:31] ecmabot-wm: ciu flexbox [02:21:31] DanielFriesen: Can I Use Flexible Box Layout Module? [IE3 11+ | FF3 22+ | Chrome07 4+ (w/prefix) | Opera3 12.1+ | Safari07 3.1+ (w/prefix) | iOS07 3.2+ (w/prefix) | Android07 2.1+ (w/prefix)] Overall: 76.5% 2 [02:23:24] ecmabot-wm: source [02:23:24] Krinkle: Pop the hood, check out https://github.com/Krinkle/oftn-bot/tree/ecmabot-wm [02:24:59] Krinkle: sweeeeeeeeeeeet [02:25:19] it's a fork of ecmabot in ##javascript [02:25:20] https://github.com/Krinkle/oftn-bot/compare/master...ecmabot-wm [02:25:33] >> var wat = [] + []; wat [02:25:34] marktraceur: (string) '' [02:25:46] Yup, that's pure unfiltered JavaScript all right [02:26:05] Krinkle: I thought the point of moving the bots out of here in the past is we didn't want more? [02:26:11] Executed in a specially-set-up-for-one-command v8 vm [02:26:28] p858snake|l: This one doesn't speak unless spoken too [02:26:33] it's like wm-bot in that regard [02:26:37] >> console.log( 'does this go anywhere?' ); [02:26:38] marktraceur: undefined; Console: 'does this go anywhere?' [02:26:46] Hm, nice. [02:27:02] Should be fine anywhere. People can execute it locally and paste it back in the channel or use ecmabot-wm. I'd prefer ecmabot-wm in that case. [02:28:41] >> Object.create [02:28:41] DanielFriesen: (function) create [02:28:47] Wheee! [02:28:55] ES5 [02:29:20] >> Array(16).join('wat' - 1) + " Batman !" [02:29:21] Krinkle: (string) 'NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman !' [02:29:49] Fully es5 and watman compatible [02:30:12] Though granted, watman is built-in in ES5 [02:30:35] >> var {you, probably, cant, dothis} = {}; [02:30:35] DanielFriesen: SyntaxError: Unexpected token { [02:30:39] Watman: My favourite picture, like, ever [02:30:57] >> "use strict"; (function () { return this === undefined; }()); [02:30:58] Krinkle: (boolean) true [02:31:21] DanielFriesen: Indeed, it uses the v8 engine that comes with nodejs, so no ES6 yes. [02:31:23] yet* [02:31:37] in this case v8 that comes with nodejs in wikimedia labs [02:32:07] >> function Something() {}; Something.prototype.toString = function () { return 'Something stupid and not representative'; }; var blah = new Something(); blah.ha = 123; blah [02:32:07] marktraceur: (object) {ha: 123} [02:32:10] Hm [02:32:26] * marktraceur must have forgotten how to override the display of things [02:32:31] >> function Something() {}; Something.prototype.toString = function () { return 'Something stupid and not representative'; }; var blah = new Something(); blah.ha = 123; blah + '!'; [02:32:31] Krinkle: (string) 'Something stupid and not representative!' [02:32:49] marktraceur: javascript consoles are much more advanced that simple strings [02:32:52] it isn't alert() [02:32:57] >> function Something() {}; Something.prototype.toString = function () { return 'Something stupid and not representative'; }; var blah = new Something(); blah.ha = 123; alert(blah); [02:32:58] Krinkle: undefined; Console: {ha: 123} [02:33:03] Krinkle: But alert is awesome [02:33:10] * marktraceur uses alert alla time [02:33:10] lol, well, it has no alert, so even alert is awesome in v8 [02:33:29] Krinkle: alert is the only way I can express myself, don't judge me [02:33:45] it only does toString when concatenated to another string (or when casted to a string with String(), or when calling .toString(), naturaly) [02:34:04] >> window [02:34:05] Krinkle: ReferenceError: window is not defined [02:34:18] * DanielFriesen grins [02:34:22] >> var fs = require('fs'); fs.removePathSync('/'); [02:34:23] Krinkle: ReferenceError: require is not defined [02:34:29] >> God [02:34:29] DanielFriesen: ReferenceError: God is not defined [02:34:41] It's plain v8, so no funny business. [02:35:14] * DanielFriesen glares at require [02:35:36] >> DTRACE_HTTP_CLIENT_REQUEST [02:35:36] ori-l: ReferenceError: DTRACE_HTTP_CLIENT_REQUEST is not defined [02:35:50] >> Object.prototype.oops = function () { console.log('oops'); }; var ans = 42; ans.oops(); ({}).oops(); [02:35:51] Krinkle: undefined; Console: 'oops', 'oops' [02:35:56] >> ([]).oops(); [02:35:56] Krinkle: TypeError: Object has no method 'oops' [02:36:09] >> window [02:36:10] marktraceur: ReferenceError: window is not defined [02:36:11] Hah. [02:36:15] * marktraceur is a terrible person [02:37:10] Krinkle: Does it have a DOM interface at all? [02:37:25] marktraceur: javascript has no DOM interface. [02:37:26] http://es5.github.io/ [02:37:48] Le sigh. [02:37:51] the browser vendors expose certain host objects as specified by W3 DOM, but ecmascript itself has no DOM. [02:37:56] that's why there is no DOM in nodejs either. [02:38:32] Krinkle: There are libraries for DOMmy things, and given we're developing a web application, it might be nice to have that around for testing :) [02:38:51] marktraceur: use your browser console then :) [02:39:11] If it would execute in nodejs instead of in plain v8, that means the environment is no longer secure. e.g. require('fs'), or require('http') etc. [02:39:29] and you'd need to keep track of phantomjs or jsdom. [02:39:35] which are huge [02:39:50] not on my watch, but feel free to fork it and do as you please in labs. It's all open :) [02:40:22] * DanielFriesen remembers the old times when he participated in CommonJS and had his own ideas for good core JS apis for filesystems, etc... [02:43:48] Indeed. [02:44:50] I wasn't very impressed by require. [02:48:26] Of course nowadays I'm fairly obsessed with gevent insetad [02:50:24] The writing of async code in a fully sync style of code was extremely aluring. [02:56:27] Last code I was writing for Gareth was a v8 in python embedding library. [03:00:15] [03:00:30] Or, for that matter, vegetable juice. [03:01:22] print ctx.eval('(function( foo ) { return foo + " World!"; })')( "Hello" ) [03:02:35] digital drive will never catch on, DanielFriesen. Just as unlikely as electric. [03:08:51] 03(mod) Specify which edit was thanked in Special:Log/thanks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49087 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [03:11:03] Multiple JS contexts can be created. JS can be evaluated in them. JS primitives returned to the host are converted into python data. JS objects have a wrapper with python access to the members. ^_^ And JS functions can be executed from Python like python functions. [03:19:02] 03(NEW) Tool Labs: Fix logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49350 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [03:22:14] 03(NEW) Tool Labs: Fix favicon (pixelated and low-res) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49351 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [03:22:54] 03(NEW) Labs: Fix favicon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49352 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; () [03:24:12] DanielFriesen: Therubyracer? [03:24:15] Or which did you use [03:24:27] ? [03:24:33] Oh nvm, you were writing, not using. [03:25:26] Is there another py-js bridge I don't know of? [03:34:39] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki name space request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 (10Ori Livneh) [03:40:27] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki name space request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +patch-in-gerrit +patch-need-review; +comment (10Ori Livneh) [04:08:35] hey, anyone know why http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Recentchanges/text/en wasn't marked as patrolled? [04:19:58] 03(mod) Incrementally remove support for HTML elements removed from or deprecated in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24529 +comment (10smccandlish) [04:22:04] 03(mod) Subpages moves and deletions listed as done by 127.0.0.1 on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49066 +comment (10T. H. Kelly) [04:28:13] you found a bug, Pink [04:31:53] weird [04:37:04] 03(mod) Thanks workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47658 +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [04:40:54] 03(mod) Incrementally remove support for HTML elements removed from or deprecated in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24529 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [05:01:03] 03(mod) Wrong language code for Norwegian Bokm�l (Android) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49340 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [05:19:10] 03(mod) Jenkins doesn't run unit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49330 +comment (10innocentkiller) [06:20:59] "Those patches should fix everything except the issue actually reported." [06:21:01] lol [06:53:30] 03(NEW) Support Parser::PTD_FOR_INCLUSION mode in action=query&prop=revisions&rvgeneratexml&rvexpandtemplates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49353 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [07:02:00] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki name space request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 -patch-need-review -shellpolicy +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [07:11:01] 03(NEW) Enable translating CNBanner messages in zh-* languages on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49354 major; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [07:13:03] 03(mod) Enable translating CNBanner messages in zh-* languages on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49354 +i18n (10Benjamin Chen) [07:16:34] 03(mod) GuidedTour adds MW namespace scripts to login page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49175 (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:23:13] 03(NEW) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; () [07:26:53] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10mahitgar) [07:34:34] 03(mod) Vector: The version of the Vector extension bundled with MediaWiki 1.21 is incompatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49228 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [08:22:43] 03(NEW) Update request for "MediaWiki:Cannotdelete-title" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49356 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [08:23:47] 03(mod) Update request for "MediaWiki:Cannotdelete-title" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49356 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:24:08] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:25:21] 03(mod) Update request for "MediaWiki:Cannotdelete-title" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49356 normal->04BLOCKER (10Mahitgar) [08:25:22] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 (10Mahitgar) [08:27:08] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 (10Mahitgar) [08:27:08] 03(mod) internal linkings to a page, in specific mediawiki message not working when used with abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45195 (10Mahitgar) [08:50:54] 03(mod) Update request for "MediaWiki:Cannotdelete-title" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49356 04BLOCKER->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo) [08:50:55] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10federicoleva) [08:51:33] 03(mod) Enable translating CNBanner messages in zh-* languages on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49354 +comment (10liangent) [08:52:26] 03(mod) Update request for "MediaWiki:Cannotdelete-title" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49356 (10Nemo) [08:58:32] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:58:50] 03(mod) Parser generates malformed HTML with a list inside a table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17486 +comment (10verdy_p) [09:01:35] 03(mod) Subpages moves and deletions listed as done by 127.0.0.1 on Meta-Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49066 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:02:29] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10Nemo) [09:10:24] 03(mod) Tool Labs: Fix logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49350 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [09:10:55] 03(mod) Labs: Fix favicon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49352 (10Peter Bena) [09:11:28] 03(mod) Tool Labs: Fix favicon (pixelated and low-res) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49351 (10Peter Bena) [09:11:57] 03(mod) Tool Labs: Fix favicon (pixelated and low-res) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49351 +comment (10benapetr) [09:15:56] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 (10Nemo) [09:15:59] 03(mod) internal linkings to a page, in specific mediawiki message not working when used with abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45195 +comment (10Nemo) [09:16:04] 03(mod) Dropping ss_admins on wmf databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49192 summary; +comment (10Umherirrender) [09:16:06] 03(mod) Dropping rc_moved_to_title/rc_moved_to_ns on wmf databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49191 summary; +comment (10Umherirrender) [09:23:32] 03(mod) Special:AbuseLog should be filterable by action taken, e.g. "disallow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48961 summary (10Nemo) [09:30:47] 03(mod) Mathjax font is too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38752 +comment (10matanya.moses) [09:30:47] 03(mod) Parser generates malformed HTML with a list inside a table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17486 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [09:35:25] 03(mod) Special:AbuseLog should be filterable by action taken, e.g. "disallow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48961 (10Nemo) [09:38:39] Nemo_bis: around? [09:41:49] 03(mod) Can't exclude Wikidata edits from a filter's matches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [09:42:17] yes [09:43:42] 03(mod) Option to group filters & their logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47531 +comment (10Nemo) [09:44:56] regarding https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38752, you requested to test with beta but or wiki isn't set up there, Nemo_bis [09:45:03] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10mahitgar) [09:49:42] 03(mod) Ability to match text based on a negative lookbehind/lookahead regex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47495 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [09:50:38] !php5.4 [09:50:47] !php54 [09:51:04] 03(mod) Option to add certain text in the article from examination page itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47497 +comment (10Nemo) [09:51:07] Did we get rid of those or is wm-bot dead? [09:51:19] !botbrain [09:51:19] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [09:53:17] 03(mod) Option to view public filter and its logs only for abuse filter management - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47494 +comment (10Nemo) [09:54:04] Ah different name [09:55:57] 03(mod) additional options to rate limit trigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47493 +comment (10Nemo) [09:57:49] 03(mod) Word boundry parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 normal->major; +upstream; +comment (10Nemo) [09:57:50] 03(mod) Abuse filter regex \b considers unicode characters as word boundaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22761 (10Nemo) [09:58:52] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10mahitgar) [09:59:29] matanya: did I? where? I'm not in that bug [10:00:04] sorry Nemo_bis I meant : https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38751 [10:01:11] matanya: math extension is not on Beta? that would be a bug :) [10:01:25] no. orwiki is not [10:01:48] so it's specific about or? [10:02:08] you can still load webfont for or in any wiki if you add the proper lang attributes [10:04:31] 03(mod) Parser generates malformed HTML with a list inside a table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17486 +comment (10verdy_p) [10:04:37] 03(mod) Edit filter warning blocks sysop page deletion activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49355 +comment (10federicoleva) [10:08:17] Hi peoples. what do people to to prevent spam and spam accounts? email verifications apparantly isn't enough :/ [10:08:38] and - how to clean up unverified accounts ? [10:09:20] !spam [10:09:21] For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [10:09:59] thanks Nemo_bis [10:10:25] matanya: if that doesn't work for you, wait for tuesday to test on or.wiki directly, or file a bug requesting or to be set up on beta for the future [10:10:43] i'll wait [10:12:30] With Abusefilter, there seems to be a discrepancy with what actions can be filtered. [10:12:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules_format#Variables the actions under here list upload as an option [10:13:03] where as the actions under here do not http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules_format#All_variables [10:13:23] does anyone know if you can stop uploads with abusefilter? [10:19:53] onei: I'm unable to see upload on Special:AbuseFilter/examine :S [10:19:58] *uploads [10:20:30] at least on 1.19, I'm not sure if they were included on most recent versions [10:22:55] It doesn't show any uploads when you check show all edits too [10:27:08] 03(mod) Ability to match text based on a negative lookbehind/lookahead regex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47495 +comment (10mahitgar) [10:27:31] 03(mod) Strange behaviour of discussionpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29604 +comment (10DaSch) [10:28:50] 03(mod) Parser generates malformed HTML with a list inside a table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17486 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [10:31:24] 03(mod) Creation of strange page names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37801 +comment (10DaSch) [10:35:05] 03(mod) Ability to match text based on a negative lookbehind/lookahead regex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47495 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [10:48:32] 03(mod) LQT search function use the normal search, but adding ondiscussionpage:, exposing that keyword on the new page creation link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37801 summary; +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [10:49:00] bug catched! :) [10:52:18] 03(mod) additional options to rate limit trigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47493 +comment (10mahitgar) [11:02:48] PHP creates traits instead of fixing the inheritance... yeah, genius [11:03:09] 03(mod) Option to group filters & their logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47531 +comment (10mahitgar) [11:05:21] Vulpix: "Programming languages should be designed not by piling feature on top of feature, but by removing the weaknesses and restrictions that make additional features appear necessary." -- Abelson & Sussman [11:05:52] that's why PHP sucks [11:05:53] i like that quote a lot [11:07:22] 03(mod) Can't exclude Wikidata edits from a filter's matches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 +comment (10mahitgar) [11:10:14] 03(mod) CSSJanus mishandles box-shadow and text-shadow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45677 +comment (10matma.rex) [11:12:51] 03(mod) Vector: The version of the Vector extension bundled with MediaWiki 1.21 is incompatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49228 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [11:12:54] 03(mod) Vector skin breaks JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49270 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [11:13:58] 03(mod) Can't exclude Wikidata edits from a filter's matches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48152 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:18:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms appear above the save dialog, preventing saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49275 +comment (10Mark Hurd) [11:19:01] 03(NEW) Increase default image thumb size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49357 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [11:39:21] 03(NEW) Moodbar undeployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49358 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [11:39:49] 03(mod) Moodbar undeployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49358 (10Andyrom75) [11:52:39] 03(NEW) https://git.wikimedia.org: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49359 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; () [11:54:47] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki name space request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +comment (10de10011) [12:00:44] 03(mod) Section heading anchors shouldn't begin with invalid characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9530 +comment (10verdy_p) [12:16:39] 03(NEW) Problems after changing LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49360 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [12:32:19] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki name space request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 -shell +shellpolicy (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [12:37:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Inspector buttons appear above save dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49361 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [12:40:07] 03(mod) Incrementally remove support for HTML elements removed from or deprecated in HTML5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24529 +comment (10ed.palmer) [12:50:59] !LocalSettings [12:50:59] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !pastelocalsettings, !vector, [12:51:47] 03(mod) additional options to rate limit trigger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47493 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [12:52:29] vector? I think wm-bot is broken :p [12:53:18] 03(mod) Moodbar undeployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49358 (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [12:54:00] 03(mod) Problems after changing LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49360 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [12:54:32] 03(mod) Remove MoodBar from itwikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49358 +shellpolicy; summary; +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [12:56:26] 03(mod) Problems after changing LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49360 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:58:51] 03(mod) Word boundry parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 -upstream ; +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [13:04:55] Krenair: I found the cause of that "bug" of LQT, in case you are interested: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37801 It may need some decision about how to fix it [13:05:45] now that I see that, priority may be decreased as well [13:06:45] Vulpix, I seem to remember that my problem with this bug is that I could not figure out how the 'ondiscussionpage' filter thing is implemented. [13:08:23] It doesn't seem to be in core or LQT anywhere... [13:08:39] whoa, you're right. There's only one match for ondiscussionpage: in the code and it's for the LQT search form [13:09:30] it seems to be 1) a hardcoded value there (not even a constant) and 2) something configured in the search engine, outside of MediaWiki [13:10:12] so I guess it's only working on WMF wikis (if that keyword even does something at all) [13:10:58] Unfortunately search is not an area of MediaWiki I know anything about [13:11:42] surprisingly, that keyword seems to work as expected on mediawiki.org [13:11:48] yes [13:11:58] I can't seem to get it to work on my local test wiki [13:12:29] This feature is from d31545bbde177804a2014f8e7ffc3afa1e504dff - Andrew Garrett - Wed Jul 29 15:53:53 2009 +0000 [13:12:40] the form that is [13:13:08] Guess I'll have to search the entire extensions directory [13:14:09] looks like two people have hit this bug on mediawiki.org alone: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_do_I_find_the_interlanguage_links%3F_ondiscussionpage:Project:Support_desk https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Krefeld_ondiscussionpage:Talk:Sites_using_InstantCommons [13:14:51] you guys want me to grep extensions? [13:15:18] already tried. most of my clones are from july 2012 but I should've caught it... [13:19:16] Krenair: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/53948 [13:19:27] Maybe manybubbles (Nik Everett, WMF's new search engineer) will be around tomorrow and we can ask him... [13:19:49] "It requires Lucene search to be installed." [13:19:50] "It requires Lucene search to be installed." ugh wtf? seriously? [13:20:01] and a bit of black magic probably ;) [13:22:25] gitblit 503... gitweb 404... helpful [13:23:42] cloning operations/debs/lucene-search-2.git to see if there's anything useful there [13:24:01] oh yep, there we are. ondiscussionpage matches [13:24:36] I haven't done Java in like 2 years... this will be fun. [13:25:36] We also have an 'inthread' [13:27:35] 03(mod) LQT search function use the normal search, but adding ondiscussionpage:, exposing that keyword on the new page creation link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37801 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [13:28:16] mid-air collision detected. Great [13:30:22] 03(mod) LQT search function use the normal search, but adding ondiscussionpage:, exposing that keyword on the new page creation link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37801 major->minor; +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [13:30:41] 03(mod) Word boundry parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 +upstream; +comment (10Nemo) [13:31:15] 03(mod) Word boundary parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 summary (10Nemo) [13:32:08] Special:Version --> link on git hashes gives Error 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable -- The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [13:32:21] We know. [13:32:33] Vulpix, so somehow we need a hook which can allow extensions to choose whether to display the option to create a page. [13:32:59] yes, I was thinking on something like this [13:33:04] And then the extension will have to decide based on trying to detect 'ondiscussionpage' [13:33:30] detection of ondiscussionpage: seems a bit hacky, though [13:33:43] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 (10jeblad) [13:33:56] That's why I don't want to do it. [13:35:34] Nemo_bis: where's the upsream bug link? [13:36:42] Vulpix: to be added [13:37:15] 03(mod) Word boundary parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 -upstream ; +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [13:37:31] you can't add 'upstream' without a link [13:37:48] ^ [13:38:44] {{cn}} [13:39:16] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi [13:39:26] upstream Marker for bugs waiting on fix from upstream software vendor. Bugs marked this way *should* include a link to the upstream bug report in the "See Also" field! [13:39:27] You do know the difference between "should" and "require" right? [13:39:30] 03(mod) Bug handling doc subpage when module is named "Documentation" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49344 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [13:40:05] also between "before" and "after" [13:40:08] there's no point to mark a bug as upstream without reporting it upstream [13:40:31] otherwise, who should expect it to be fixed? [13:40:34] 03(mod) Word boundary parameter \b not working with Unicode devanagari words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46773 +upstream (10Nemo) [13:41:24] 03(mod) Extension RSS cannot render Mediawiki's own RecentChanges RSS or ATOM feed. Error message is "Error parsing XML for RSS" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48710 +comment (10mail) [13:43:23] who? the one who files upstream, for instance :) [13:43:46] or someone that likes to file upstream one of the 82 upstream possibly unreported bugs https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=upstream%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&f1=see_also&list_id=207255&o1=nowordssubstr&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=http [13:45:16] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 (10jeblad) [13:55:35] 03(mod) Problems after changing LocalSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49360 +comment (10pit2048) [13:57:04]