[00:00:19] Rguz10: Then you'll also know that they come *back* to their keyboards periodically :) [00:00:47] Thanks guys! [00:03:21] 03(mod) Re-enable Nearby on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49288 +comment (10Arthur Richards) [00:04:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Sometimes ignores changing a wikilink with an underscore to one with a space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49310 +comment (10esanders) [00:04:53] 03(mod) Clicking links in preview loses my edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49276 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:06:39] 03(NEW) Support nested tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49555 normal; Parsoid: JS/General; () [00:06:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: incorrectly handling nested reference tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49536 (10James Forrester) [00:07:17] 03(mod) Unexpected
tags in mobile diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48760 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:07:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: incorrectly handling nested reference tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49536 +comment (10jforrester) [00:08:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Incorrectly handling nested reference tags (blocked by Parsoid) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49536 summary (10James Forrester) [00:11:10] 03(mod) Machine readable content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21450 +comment (10MZMcBride) [00:16:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Race condition between "Beginning of Line" and "New Line" operations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43082 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:17:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Race condition between "Beginning of Line" and "New Line" operations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43082 +comment (10James Forrester) [00:18:01] Ok guys. I moved servers and fixed that problem. We now have a new one :/ Warning: require(/home/content/48/11259248/html/wiki/languages/utils/CLDRPluralRuleEvaluator.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/content/48/11259248/html/wiki/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 1160 Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/home/content/48/11259248/html/wiki/languages/util [00:18:15] Those are the wrrors [00:18:19] *errors [00:18:48] 03(mod) Enable section-editing on 'beta' profile of VisualEditor deployments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48658 +comment (10James Forrester) [00:20:53] Rguz10: Did you copy over all the files? [00:21:25] Rguz10: In particular does languages/utils/CLDRPluralRuleEvaluator.php exist on your server [00:22:12] 03(mod) Clicking links in preview loses my edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49276 (10Jon) [00:22:32] 03(mod) Unexpected
tags in mobile diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48760 (10Jon) [00:23:09] 03(mod) Previews with references show ugly error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49218 (10Jon) [00:23:59] Im sorry [00:24:04] I dident respong [00:24:06] I dident respond [00:24:25] I lost connection during the upload [00:24:42] So FTP disconnected [00:25:00] Thanks for trying to help [00:31:47] Did you solve your problem? [00:32:26] I think, new files are being uploaded. Will probably take a while. [00:36:18] Hallo. Apparently there's no easy generic way to check for the presence of an interlanguage link on a page. [00:37:13] There's class "interwiki-", but it's different for every language. [00:37:47] aharoni: BTW, VE should now work for you on hewiki? [00:38:02] Is there a way in jQuery to use wildcards or regular expressions on selectors to look for such things? I couldn't find it. [00:38:07] James_F: let me check. [00:40:34] 03(mod) Gerrit bot seems to have gone missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49480 +comment (10b) [00:40:48] aharoni: #p-lang li? [00:41:05] aharoni: or *[id^="interwiki-"] [00:41:19] aharoni: (but that won't work on old IEs) [00:41:27] sorry, s/id/class/ [00:42:13] (actually, it might even work on old IEs, if jQuery has a polyfill for them) [00:43:06] 03(NEW) Link to revert to the earlier language inside the tooltip cannot be clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49556 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [00:45:07] James_F: works! This is great, because I waited for the cursor movement patch to go live to make a wider announcement about the GSoC project on the Hebrew Wikipedia. I hope for another wave of useful bug reports now. [00:45:25] aharoni: Aha, awesome. More usage/bug reports would be really helpful. :-) [00:45:27] James_F: thanks to whoever did it [00:45:42] (the RL fix) [00:45:46] aharoni: Roan hit the deployment server until it did what it should have been doing. [00:46:02] great [00:46:14] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki namespace request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +comment (10b) [00:46:31] MatmaRex: #p-lang li won't be perfect, because Wikidata's "Add links" is also a
  • . [00:47:02] MatmaRex: "*[id^="interwiki-"]" <-- is that a jQuery selector? [00:47:41] aharoni: it's a CSS selector [00:47:49] so works in jQuery as well [00:48:24] the quotes are optional, but jQuery likes to bitch if they're missing, though [00:49:00] 03(mod) Link to revert to the earlier display language inside the tooltip cannot be clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49556 summary (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [00:49:15] whoah, I never saw ^= in CSS. I also need it in Cucumber tests in Ruby, on which I am trying to work now with chrismcmahon . [00:49:34] aharoni: you could also use something like #p-lang li:not(.wbc-editpage), but it's sort of ugly at this point [00:49:53] (to discard the Wikidata link) [00:49:57] disregard* [00:50:38] aharoni: there's also $= and i think |= and ~=, but i don't remember off the top of my head what htese two do :) [00:51:10] aharoni: you rarely see them in CSS since IE6 doesn't support them :( [00:51:36] (same with :not() ) [00:51:48] CSS3 has so many amazing things [00:51:58] Too bad the only way most of them are used is in jQuery selectors [00:52:20] and in user css :D [00:52:27] We use tr:nth-child(even) in VE CSS somewhere because we don't support IE < 9 anyway [00:52:50] for example, i got my bugzilla to display the titles of blocking and blocked bugs [00:53:38] 03(mod) CSS issue on watchlist feed view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48793 (10Jon) [00:54:01] 03(mod) Cancel/Preview/Save bar disappears from edit view on iOS 6.1.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49462 (10Jon) [00:56:42] 03(mod) Extracts need to filter out more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48917 +comment (10Jon) [01:00:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor weirdness - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49411 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:03:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A slug's new contents appear not to get inserted into the DM in at least once case - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43146 +comment (10James Forrester) [01:05:08] MatmaRex: thanks for telling me about ^=. This made me do something that I needed to do a long time ago: bookmark the W3C list of selectors - http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-css3-selectors-20110929/ [01:06:09] aharoni: cookmark the CSS4 one while you're at it ;) [01:06:26] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/ [01:07:03] "3.2. Determining the Subject of a Selector" is *awesome* [01:07:10] i wonder if it'll even get implemented :P [01:07:17] Ah the w3c spec: Things I wish I could do with css but can't [01:08:22] omg yes. I literally needed that yesterday [01:08:52] ah, the times i wanted a 'parent' combinator [01:09:20] You guys will like this one https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/67928/ [01:09:27] Breaking words in CSS is easy, right? [01:09:51] My favorite part there is that the only rule that works is the one that's invalid according to the spec [01:10:12] yay Standards [01:11:17] heh [01:11:17] 03(mod) Parsoid sometimes loads content from another wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49411 summary; +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [01:23:42] 03(mod) Parsoid sometimes loads content from another wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49411 (10James Forrester) [01:26:23] 03(NEW) Adding talk top doesn't invalidate local browser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49557 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [01:31:39] 03(mod) Provide namespace IDs and names in the databases similar to toolserver.namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48625 +comment (10b) [01:33:50] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10b) [01:35:04] 03(mod) incorrect noun case for 'Month XX' in certain languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47211 +comment (10b) [01:39:31] 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166 +comment (10b) [01:47:48] 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515 +comment (10praveenp) [01:50:07] 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166 +comment (10aschulz4587) [01:52:44] 03(NEW) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [01:52:45] 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166 +comment (10b) [01:59:38] 03(NEW) Keyboard shortcut for IME creates new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49559 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [02:15:03] 03(NEW) ULS icon is too small an unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [02:16:27] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small an unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10me.praveen) [02:16:41] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 summary (10praveenp) [02:46:54] 03(NEW) Special:Block ignores perferred language for menu innards - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49561 minor; MediaWiki: User blocking; () [02:53:05] 03(NEW) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 minor; MediaWiki: User blocking; () [02:55:09] 03(mod) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 (10jidanni) [02:56:40] 03(mod) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 (10jidanni) [02:59:23] 03(mod) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 (10jidanni) [03:03:20] 03(mod) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 +comment (10p858snake) [03:14:45] 03(mod) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:15:28] 03(mod) Special:Block forgets to mention the most important stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 (10jidanni) [03:21:30] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Section edit link behaviour tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49563 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [03:21:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Section edit link behaviour tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49563 (10James Forrester) [03:26:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor doesn't support section editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48429 +comment (10jforrester) [03:34:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-factor key detection to be more robust and not occasionally break/pawn in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48335 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:35:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-factor key detection to be more robust and not occasionally break/pawn in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48335 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:37:11] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Review behaviour in CE with


    s - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49564 minor; VisualEditor: General; () [03:37:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Review behaviour in CE with


    s - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49564 (10James Forrester) [03:48:07] 03(mod) Remove "hits" from CAPTCHA dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16166 +comment (10aschulz4587) [03:50:39] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Revive Inez's way of doing sub-surfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49565 critical; VisualEditor: Data Model; () [03:50:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Revive Inez's way of doing sub-surfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49565 (10James Forrester) [03:52:03] 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut for IME creates new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49559 +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [03:54:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: New lines in table cells serialised to \n not
    - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48460 +comment (10James Forrester) [04:50:47] 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut for IME creates new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49559 +comment (10praveenp) [04:53:34] who sould I contact if I need 'Push' rights when trying to push to gerrit? [04:56:35] TongboS: Have you created a labs account yet? [04:58:23] Yes I have [04:59:05] Are you trying to push your changes directly to git instead of using git-review so they land in gerrit? [05:03:27] yes I am [05:03:33] should I use git-review? [05:07:04] TongboS: Yes you should [05:07:44] p858snake|l: Ok thanks. I'll try that. [05:07:44] we don't really like the use of plain git pushes apart from a few selected circumstances because it misses our code review tools [05:11:53] 03(mod) [IE9] "Add links" missing for pages with no language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49139 summary (10Nemo) [05:15:54] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10federicoleva) [05:45:00] ^demon: Reedy [05:45:03] Hi [05:45:16] Any idea why https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FSOLRSearch is a blank repsitory? [05:47:10] because ^demon only created it two days ago? i'm guessing he was never asked to import anything [05:49:31] Well, the page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SOLRSearch looks like there is already an existing extension [05:50:03] and there's no other place to download it [05:56:16] 03(NEW) Buffer ParserService output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49566 normal; Parsoid: General; () [05:56:22] 03(mod) Buffer ParserService output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49566 (10Gabriel Wicke) [06:01:21] meh, Demon called it vaporware [06:01:55] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 normal->15enhancement; +design (10Nemo) [06:02:54] 03(mod) edit conflict while editing the last section of a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22783 +comment (10Wikid77) [06:09:07] 03(mod) Support simple source code editing tools for the VisualEditor plugin for the SyntaxHighlight extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47742 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:09:55] 03(mod) Toolbar icons overlap edit box in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47506 +comment (10thorsten.h) [06:19:46] 03(mod) Link to revert to the earlier display language inside the tooltip cannot be clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49556 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [06:25:04] 03(mod) Link to revert to the earlier display language inside the tooltip cannot be clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49556 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:27:53] 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Use Tipsy on "Language settings" tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47977 (10Santhosh Thottingal) [06:29:24] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10Wikid77) [06:35:28] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10liangent) [06:35:29] Hi, I have a question about ResourceLoader: Can @embed be used within site CSS? [06:36:46] 03(mod) Check that schema name matches revid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46174 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:36:48] 03(mod) Add API method for recursively expanding JSON Schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45886 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:36:51] 03(mod) Check that schema name matches revid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46174 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:36:53] 03(mod) Add API method for recursively expanding JSON Schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45886 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:37:22] 03(mod) {{#special:}} parser function should not return textual error message for unknown special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47449 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:37:34] RAN1: No, unfortunately @embed does not work in site CSS [06:37:58] It only works for local files with paths relative to the CSS file's path, and because site CSS isn't a file but a wiki page, there is no path to be relative to [06:38:10] In the Distant Future (TM) we'd like to make embedding of on-wiki images possible [06:39:32] I see, I was attempting to @embed some tab sprites for the Vector skin as the site I'm working on has an alternate color scheme, and I noticed the default Vector images were loaded using data URIs. [06:40:02] 03(mod) ULS triggers aren't shown in IE8 in Windows XP on Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49548 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:40:30] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10bswanberg77) [06:40:34] Yeah [06:40:41] I imagine the hacky sort of way to have it embedded would be to simply take the tab sprites I have now and use them to replace the default Vector tab images. [06:41:11] Have you considered making your tweaks an actual skin rather than putting them in site CSS? [06:43:03] No, not really. The reason being that most-to-all of the changes are just color changes and not actual major changes to the Vector skin. [06:43:10] I see [06:43:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Attribute order preservation is hopeless, get rid of it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48980 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:45:09] * RoanKattouw ponders data-URI embedding for arbitrary URLs [06:45:33] The only major difference is that the tab backgrounds are different between regular links and redlinks, and @embedding would be nicer since loading the images generally happens after the first parts of the page are rendered.. [06:45:35] The front-end dev in me says it's a great idea; the part of me that just took two security classes says it's scary [06:45:47] Ah yes [06:45:57] Well, not arbitrary. [06:46:27] The images I have here on-site and protected, in that regard. Don't know how that applies to security though. [06:46:28] Yeah, we'll probably end up with embedding for on-wiki images at least, that'll make things better [06:46:57] The thing is, for those tab images, I'm not sure whether caching will be enough to save that kind of problem. [06:47:06] So, /technically/ I suppose you could generate data URI versions of your images and paste them into your CSS [06:47:10] On Safari 6, caching handles the tab images after it's loaded once. [06:47:14] Which is horrible. Which is why we built @embed [06:47:22] Hmm. [06:47:25] Yeah, caching should take care of it after first load [06:47:46] The main reason we did it is performance: reducing the # of individual requests [06:47:48] Yeah, just not sure if it's worse for other browsers. [06:47:59] Tab images are terrible, full request overhead for like a kilobyte of image data [06:48:14] Commonly-used browsers handle it welll [06:48:20] cough SPDY cough [06:48:35] Heh yeah [06:48:37] Ok, that's good. As long as they're cached it's ok. [06:49:00] ori-l: Actually, data URI embedding is probably slightly more efficient than SPDY :) [06:49:02] It's the case when they're not being cached that I'm worried about, as it loads the tab images after the text is rendered. [06:49:12] If it happens on every pageload, er. [06:49:33] RoanKattouw: how do you figure? [06:49:34] Well, suffice it to say it looks sloppy. [06:49:37] We observed that the gzipped size of a CSS stylesheet with embedded icons was less than the gzipped size of the CSS stylesheet plus the gzipped size of each icon [06:49:53] Even though the icons are bloated 33% by base64-encoding them [06:50:08] Overhead, I imagine? [06:50:21] No, that's net data not considering protocol overhead [06:50:37] How's that so? [06:50:46] Our theory is that it's gzip working its magic on multiple base64-encoded PNG headers near each other [06:51:05] Compression does wonders. [06:51:09] Yeah [06:51:27] When we saw these numbers we both just sort of stared at the screen for a while, and then one of us said "wow, gzip is pretty awesome" [06:51:44] Heh, no kidding. [06:53:29] gzip's dictionary is built on-the-fly and it tracks the last 32k of input data [06:53:43] Alright, well, thanks for the help. I'm not too worried about the embedding issue if caching will pick up the slack. Still, would be nice to see some image data embedding in the future. [06:53:52] so yes, if the png headers are within that range of one another, that would make sense [06:53:54] Yeah [06:54:10] that is kinda cool [06:54:10] ori-l: Well icons are usually a couple hundred bytes tops [06:54:31] You know, like 16x16px icons or Nx1px gradient images [06:54:43] So lots of headers and lots of white pixels [06:55:24] Actually if the image is larger than 24 KB we won't even embed it, because the resulting data URI would be >32K characters and IE can't deal with that [06:56:10] (That's the IE8 hack; IE7 doesn't even support data URIs at all, so there's a background-image: url(actual URL here) !ie; rule after every embedded image) [06:58:08] >.< [06:58:21] RoanKattouw: Out of curiosity, how big of a security issue is it to allow @embed images on the site CSS? [06:58:32] I don't know [06:58:50] I'm just thinking out loud while doing some midnight coding [06:58:59] Embedding on-wiki images is probably fine [06:59:09] Allowing embedding of on-disk images is probably not fine [06:59:43] (and hopefully unnecessary if we convert all the icons in MW core to .mw-icon-foo classes) [06:59:48] I thought that was disallowed by browsers by default? [06:59:55] Allowing embedding of off-site URLs... I don't know [07:00:03] No I mean on-disk on the server [07:00:21] Oh, I thought you meant client-side, nvm. [07:00:28] Hmm. [07:00:38] Well. [07:02:10] Well if you're a web server you obviously can't data-URI-embed images from the client's disk [07:02:16] Unless the domain is nsa.gov ;) [07:02:45] Heh. I was thinking you could just restrict image embedding to $wgScriptPath/images/ [07:03:39] Well it's probably best to use special syntax that lets you directly specify the on-wiki name of the file [07:04:01] That way you don't have to know the hashed path (images/a/a3/Myfile.png) and we control the path resolution completely [07:04:33] Hmm, convenient, but as for the CSS... [07:05:42] Well the charm of the way we did @embed is that if you don't run it through the processor, the CSS still works [07:05:54] Using magic syntax like url([[File:Foo.jpg]]) would break that [07:06:08] Yeah, that's why I'd be a bit tentative about that. [07:09:40] RoanKattouw: In general, though, I just go to the image description page, get the URL from the image, and paste it into CSS. That's usually how I've done any on-wiki image embeds and it works nicely for the most part. [07:09:57] Yeah [07:10:07] And you can use Special:Filepath to get a URL directly from an image name [07:10:25] (Special:Filepath/Myimage.png is a 301 redirect to images/a/a4/Myimage.png) [07:10:48] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 (10Siebrand) [07:11:57] Hmm. [07:12:10] 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut for IME creates new tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49559 +comment (10Siebrand) [07:13:14] I don't know, maybe using that as a way to get the image? [07:13:22] Seems kind of hacked. [07:13:30] Oh well, I need to get going soon. [07:13:35] 03(mod) Link to revert to the earlier display language inside the tooltip cannot be clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49556 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:17:32] 03(mod) Show debug output in toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48952 -patch-need-review (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:36:41] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10questpc) [07:37:30] 03(mod) Toolbar icons overlap edit box in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47506 +comment (10filzstift) [07:49:18] 03(mod) Add 6 fonts for Arabic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41551 +comment (10s.mazeland) [07:55:17] 03(NEW) Update Lohit fonts in ULS font repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49567 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [07:55:28] 03(mod) Update Lohit fonts in ULS font repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49567 (10Siebrand) [07:56:26] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10questpc) [07:58:01] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10MWJames) [07:58:38] 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [08:02:13] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1) [08:07:30] 03(mod) localize display of time values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48962 (10tobias.gritschacher) [08:08:17] 03(mod) localize display of time values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48962 (10tobias.gritschacher) [08:28:08] Reedy: I gave you direct access to wikimedia-bot repository, so that you don't need to make pull requests... [08:30:24] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [08:32:35] is there something like http://rst.ninjs.org/ for mediawiki ? [08:34:06] ekarlso: There's VisualEditor [08:34:11] * RoanKattouw finds blog post [08:34:54] Instructions for trying out VisualEditor on Wikipedia: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/12/try-out-the-alpha-version-of-the-visualeditor/ [08:35:15] RoanKattouw: so I can't deploy it on my own wik i ? [08:35:19] Announcement that it's going to be live on Wikipedia for real in July: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/06/preparing-for-visualeditor-on-all-wikipedias/ [08:35:27] You can, although the requirements are a bit steep [08:35:36] You basically need to run both VE and MediaWiki off master [08:35:44] And you need to install Parsoid [08:35:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor [08:36:31] It's not too hard to set up if you're willing to run bleeding edge code and set up a nodejs application [08:37:08] But it's a bit more work to install than any old MW extension [08:37:39] It's also still in development so it can still be a bit unstable here and there [08:37:59] RoanKattouw: what I wanted was more to be able to see a livepreview of what I am writing so I can see if I write errors [08:38:00] instead of having to press the review button each time [08:40:31] RoanKattouw: ? [08:44:38] 03(mod) Form popup does not work with IE7. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30396 +comment (10Neill Mitchell) [08:47:11] I don't think there's anything that does preview-as-you-type [08:47:14] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10MWJames) [08:47:32] There is a "live preview" feature in MediaWiki but it's really AJAX preview [08:48:10] * RoanKattouw looks at the clock and decides it's time to go to sleep [08:51:15] 03(NEW) history links throw internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49568 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [09:01:37] 03(mod) Toolbar icons overlap edit box in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47506 +comment (10Michael M.) [09:12:02] RoanKattouw_away: go to bed :) [09:12:40] 03(NEW) IME not working with Visual Editor fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49569 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [09:19:19] 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515 +comment (10vssun9) [09:35:28] 03(NEW) Pages within radius don't get listed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49570 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: GeoData; () [09:38:21] 03(NEW) Auto summary for coordinates dataype incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49571 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [09:48:03] 03(mod) localize display of time values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48962 (10tobias.gritschacher) [09:53:39] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [09:55:43] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1) [10:03:48] 03(mod) IME not working with Contenteditable divs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49569 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [10:10:53] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10questpc) [10:16:20] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1) [10:19:46] How can I type   into a mediawiki page?   isn't working. [10:21:57] 03(mod) Pages within radius don't get listed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49570 +comment (10Marco Gerber) [10:22:24] vadi2: a literal  , or a non-breakable space? [10:22:28] A literal [10:22:41] Sorry, I wasn't clear there huh. It keeps parsing it. [10:22:58] hm, true [10:23:04] i guess &nbsp; would work [10:23:19] That's right, thanks. [10:23:36] It did. Cheers [10:27:28] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 (10Nemo) [10:41:24] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 +comment (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [10:41:41] 03(mod) Subobject text type property value does not permit to store a href links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49530 (10Dmitriy Sintsov) [10:45:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41150 +comment (10okeyes) [10:52:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't paste into a selection covering the end of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49551 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:52:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't paste into a selection covering the end of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49551 (10Ed Sanders) [10:53:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Attribute order preservation is hopeless, get rid of it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48980 (10Ed Sanders) [10:56:35] 03(mod) Add thanks links on Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49541 +comment (10Technical_13) [10:57:04] 03(NEW) Add jquery.i18n, jquery.ime, jquery.uls to plugins.jquery.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49572 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [11:06:00] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10praveenp) [11:11:02] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10Siebrand) [11:15:23] hi all [11:19:35] if a user is about to save whatever is typed into the editor (by clicking save I guess) and something happens to the PHP scripts on the server-side forcing the user to lose everything that was typed in the previous page [11:19:48] … is there any way to recover that unsaved content? [11:19:55] temporary files on the server somewhere? [11:23:55] radiochatr: no. [11:24:05] what a bomb [11:24:08] radiochatr: hitting the browser's "back" button may work [11:24:18] depending on the browser, and when the error happened [11:24:36] also, depending on when the failure happened, the text may already be in the text table [11:24:38] yes, I know it's worth a try, but unsure if the user did that [11:24:48] you can check the latest entry there (highest id) [11:24:54] OK. [11:24:58] will do [11:24:59] but it's quite possible that it's gone [11:25:43] generally, when doing large edits, i use a text editor. the "It's All Text" extension for Firefox is quite nice for this [11:25:46] highly recommended [11:31:47] 03(mod) MySQL Binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49531 summary; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [11:33:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Grunt leaves behind temporary html file if tests fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49431 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:35:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Grunt leaves behind temporary html file if tests fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49431 (10Ed Sanders) [11:36:18] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10praveenp) [11:37:27] 03(NEW) Template inspector returning mass of code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49573 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [11:38:11] 03(mod) MySQL Binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49531 +comment (10innocentkiller) [11:46:27] 03(mod) #time parser function can't read local language month names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19412 +comment (10jayantanth) [11:47:59] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10Siebrand) [11:52:34] 03(mod) Add 6 fonts for Arabic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41551 +comment (10mohahmwiki) [11:53:17] 03(mod) #time parser function can't read local language month names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19412 +comment (10p.selitskas) [11:56:28] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10praveenp) [11:56:35] 03(NEW) "Changed from language X" tooltip disappears to soon if cog icon is hovered multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49574 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [11:59:16] 03(mod) MySQL Binary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49531 +comment (10mah) [11:59:32] 03(NEW) Set up transwiki import for vec.wiktionary.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49575 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [12:02:15] 03(mod) "Changed from language X" tooltip disappears too soon if cog icon is hovered multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49574 summary (10Nemo) [12:04:08] I have a problem when i try to change the Skin. I click save, the selected skin is not saved [12:04:21] nothing change [12:04:28] " [12:04:28] Your preferences have been saved. [12:04:28] " but not [12:07:40] 03(mod) Add 6 fonts for Arabic WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41551 +comment (10mohahmwiki) [12:09:38] 03(mod) Add jquery.i18n, jquery.ime, jquery.uls to plugins.jquery.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49572 (10Siebrand) [12:10:12] 03(mod) "Changed from language X" tooltip disappears too soon if cog icon is hovered multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49574 (10Siebrand) [12:11:28] 03(mod) ULS triggers aren't shown in IE8 in Windows XP on Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49548 +comment (10Siebrand) [12:12:58] 03(mod) ULS triggers aren't shown in IE8 in Windows XP on Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49548 normal->major (10Siebrand) [12:13:40] 03(mod) Add jquery.i18n, jquery.ime, jquery.uls to plugins.jquery.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49572 +comment (10Nemo) [12:15:01] 03(mod) ULS triggers aren't shown in IE8 in Windows XP on Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49548 +comment (10s.mazeland) [12:15:18] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:15:52] 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515 +comment (10s.mazeland) [12:17:14] 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515 (10Siebrand) [12:18:29] 03(mod) Add small capitals for Linux Libertine font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49512 (10Siebrand) [12:18:37] 03(mod) Update Linux Libertine font to latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49511 (10Siebrand) [12:18:41] 03(mod) Update UnifrakturMaguntia font to latest version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49510 (10Siebrand) [12:19:37] 03(mod) [editEntity API] Refactoring: add parameter "new" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49526 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:20:02] Hi. [12:20:14] Shukran Shukran Mediawiki Devels [12:20:17] now.. [12:21:05] What's the preferred extension to change usernames of users ( myself ). I have full access to the mediawiki installation and credentials [12:21:24] 03(NEW) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [12:22:30] !e Renameuser | jubo2 [12:22:31] jubo2: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser [12:22:41] tnx p858snake|l [12:23:26] DIASPORA* project looks really good.. it's just I imagines one would implement a decentralized social network [12:24:01] Hahaha.. Diaspora can federate if it's citizens of each pod choose so - http://wiki.diaspora-project.org/wiki/Federation_Protocol_Overview [12:24:35] there can even be a side of the Diaspora network with ads and another with totally NO ADS [12:24:37] that's ait [12:24:40] it's possible [12:24:46] it's the wise thing to do [12:25:14] so if you ( as a consumer ) want no ads then join a pod in the no-ads side [12:25:54] if you want that diaspora and it's advertising affiliates / contract parties can recommend you nice stuff to consume based on what it knows of you through your activities [12:26:08] 03(mod) In sidebar position, the tip of language settings dialog partially covers cog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49471 +comment (10s.mazeland) [12:26:09] simple as that [12:27:35] oh shit.. I remember my git client was broken the last time I looked at it [12:28:07] 03(mod) Lohit Punjabi font problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40473 major->normal; +comment (10Siebrand) [12:28:53] I try. Maybe it has repaired itself. [12:29:29] 03(mod) Set up transwiki import for vec.wiktionary.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49575 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [12:31:31] Cloning into RenameUser but nothing moving on the screen for a long time [12:32:10] It's stuck [12:32:21] extension is few 10s of kB [12:32:31] it shouldn't take minutes to clone [12:32:52] ctrl-c [12:33:01] so I need alternative way to get my extensions [12:33:14] there is ExtensionDistributor.. I look for that [12:35:28] 03(NEW) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 critical; VisualEditor: General; () [12:36:39] . [12:41:56] oh shit.. [12:42:22] I installed the extensions as per the documentation and now all pages on the wiki give blank page [12:42:44] I did an 'sudo apachectl graceful' which didn't help [12:43:27] I added one line to LocalSettings.php .. and it was .. hold on.. [12:43:41] 03(mod) Allows playing native FLAC files (not in Ogg container) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49505 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:44:03] require_once("$IP/extensions/Renameuser/Renameuser.php"); [12:44:25] I comment it out and see if that revives the wiki [12:45:07] yup. that and sudo apachectl graceful fixed the brokehness [12:45:08] weird. [12:45:19] I downloaded the correct version on Renameuser [12:45:39] HALP! [12:46:17] If I try to enable Extension:Renameuser all the pages returned are blank ( nothing but white on the screen ) [12:46:45] 03(mod) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [12:50:08] 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:50:17] 03(mod) Add jquery.i18n, jquery.ime, jquery.uls to plugins.jquery.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49572 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:51:56] 03(mod) Bengali Wiki projects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40760 (10Tanvir Rahman) [12:51:57] 03(mod) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 (10Tanvir Rahman) [12:53:38] 03(mod) In sidebar position, the tip of language settings dialog partially covers cog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49471 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:56:31] !blank | jubo2 [12:56:32] jubo2: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [12:56:45] 03(mod) Template inspector returning mass of code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49573 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [12:56:47] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [12:57:44] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10Raimond Spekking) [12:59:57] is it possible to find out which users had a botflag in the past? [13:01:12] hmz.. [13:01:43] trying to enable the extension in LocalSettings.php causes all pages return a blank page [13:02:11] * jubo2 senses a strange error [13:02:27] You've got a typo most likely then [13:03:50] I copy pasted the line from the extension installation instructions [13:03:52] hold on I check [13:05:56] 03(mod) Allows playing native FLAC files (not in Ogg container) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49505 +comment (10kelson) [13:07:34] Reedy: found the glitch [13:07:49] I hadn't renamed the directory extracted from the tar.gz [13:08:07] my git is brokeh too so I needed to use the ExtensionDistributor way [13:14:49] 03(mod) Add $page_encoded and $username_encoded to wm-bot variable list for @configure recent-changes-template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49535 (10Technical 13) [13:14:52] 'k got the username changed [13:15:03] Shukran, Shukran MediaWiki Devels [13:19:03] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:23:02] 03(mod) @notify is white space sensitive. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49542 +comment (10Peter Bena) [13:31:39] 03(mod) Apply data type specific validators to snak values received by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49263 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:37:59] 03(mod) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [13:47:07] 03(mod) Don't use current translation of a string as a suggestion for it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40711 (10Siebrand) [13:47:26] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10okeyes) [13:47:30] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 (10Oliver Keyes) [13:58:17] 03(mod) Previews with references show ugly error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49218 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:59:35] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10Deepu G Nair) [14:05:07] 03(mod) Support for WAV and AIFF by converting files to FLAC automatically. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20252 (10Jean-Fred) [14:05:09] 03(mod) Multimedia support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42725 (10Jean-Fred) [14:07:16] 03(NEW) Offer a command to see what the current string is for a @configure key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49578 normal; Tools: WM-Bot; () [14:12:39] 03(NEW) case sensitivity issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49579 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [14:15:48] how do you set the user logged in timeout value in MediaWiki ? [14:17:15] because a user complained about being logged out of the session when saving any changes to an article [14:18:04] the user had of course been logged in for quite some time, so if there is a timeout for sessions then it would be great to increase this value [14:18:07] anyone? [14:18:28] 03(mod) Set up transwiki import for vec.wiktionary.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49575 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:18:31] 03(mod) Set up transwiki import for vec.wiktionary.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49575 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:19:20] 03(mod) Set up transwiki import for vec.wiktionary.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49575 +patch-in-gerrit (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [14:21:03] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:22:10] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10Tom H) [14:22:44] 03(mod) Apply data type specific validators to snak values received by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49263 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:25:13] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [14:31:08] 03(mod) HTML code left after saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10okeyes) [14:32:45] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 summary (10James Forrester) [14:39:20] 03(NEW) blocking for 100000 years doesn't create a block but fills block log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49580 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; () [14:42:53] hi, in witch mysql table can i change the group-rights? Thx :-) [14:44:09] Steinsplitter: user_groups table contains the data about which users are in which groups (though you probably should use the on-wiki interface, Special:UserRights, instead); http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_groups_table might be of use to you [14:44:27] thank you :-) [14:45:03] there's also a maintenance script, maintenance/createAndPromote.php, which can be used to create a new user account and give it administrator (sysop) and bureaucrat rights [14:45:49] ah, thx :-) [14:45:55] Thx :-) [14:45:58] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:46:02] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:46:50] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10okeyes) [14:47:31] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10ignatus31oct) [14:47:40] none? [14:47:50] about session timeout [14:48:50] radiochatr: if memory serves me correct, session timeout is actually a PHP thing (something you can change in php.ini); http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCookieExpiration might also be of interest to you [14:49:12] you may want to create a phpinfo file and see what the current values regarding session timeout stuff are [14:52:32] thanks, helpful [14:54:14] 03(NEW) Null revision on page protection based on old version - no conflict detection or load from slave? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49581 normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; () [15:01:14] 03(mod) blocking for 100000 years doesn't create a block but fills block log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49580 +comment (10addshorewiki) [15:29:46] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10gwicke) [15:32:10] Hello all, I've got a gargantuan job queue on my primary wiki install, but I'm not able to execute runJobs.php on more than one machine at once. Is this a rule? Or can I use a parameter to make them play well with each other [15:32:43] I think you should be able to have it on more than one machine at once [15:33:05] Did you get errors when you tried, or did something bad happen? [15:33:50] Because you can even specify --procs to have it be multi-threaded, which implies it should handle concurrency fine [15:34:34] bawolff: Oh, I just have to specify the number of jobs? What happened when I ran it on one without that parameter was that the other would stop [15:34:42] but I'll try it with a --procs [15:35:52] bawolff: Got it in one! Now I just have to pray I don't overload my frontends :( [15:36:08] Ulfr: you can also try using the --type argument so that different machines do different jobs [15:37:55] bawolff: Unfortunately it's all the same jobs. I'm getting wonkiness in the quagmire that is semantic, and had to disable the automatic job queue handler due to a different issue. Figured refreshing semantic data couldn't hurt, btu that's apparently a handful [15:38:24] yeah, I imagine it would be [15:40:55] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10sunil) [15:41:08] bawolff: You wouldn't happen to know of any args for updating the i18n cache would you? I just want it to update en, I have separate wikis for other languages [15:41:30] Well the full list of args can be gotten by doing --help [15:42:01] bawolff: Oh, okay. Just wondering if that was another you knew off the top of your head [15:42:28] rebuildLocalisationCache.php is probably the script for rebuilding the i18n cache [15:43:21] I think its possible to have your i18n cache be shared amongst all your wikis [15:43:29] I'm not too familar with the i18n cache though [15:45:19] But generally I don't think i18n cache is refreshed via job queue [16:00:14] 03(mod) case sensitivity issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49579 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:00:22] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:05:55] Why would you update i18n cache via job queue? In most cases it only changes at upgrade/new extension install [16:07:03] 03(NEW) generate error logs per tool (apache) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49582 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [16:07:13] 03(mod) generate error logs per tool (apache) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49582 normal->major (10Peter Bena) [16:10:55] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 +comment (10aklapper) [16:13:47] 03(mod) ULS icon is too small and unidentifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49560 +comment (10deepugn) [16:17:21] 03(mod) Special:Block should mention that user still has read access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 minor->trivial; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:20:56] 03(NEW) Use standard DataValue validators for labels, descriptions and aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49583 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [16:21:13] 03(mod) Use standard DataValue validators for labels, descriptions and aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49583 (10Daniel Kinzler) [16:21:16] 03(mod) Apply data type specific validators to snak values received by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49263 (10Daniel Kinzler) [16:32:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49394 (10ssastry) [16:32:58] 03(mod) Special:Block ignores user's preferred language for some menu items (shown in wiki's default language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49561 +i18n; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:34:54] 03(mod) Special:Block should mention that user still has read access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 +comment (10Liangent) [16:35:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Misc. issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49394 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [16:35:57] 03(mod) new schedule for Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49418 +comment (10Chris McMahon) [16:39:27] MaxSem: hello [16:39:34] hey [16:39:57] it seems Extension:FeatureFeeds strips inline styles? [16:41:24] 03(mod) Narayam switches off on index pages of Proofread extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48800 +comment (10Nemo) [16:41:28] it shouldn't [16:41:36] 03(mod) Apply data type specific validators to snak values received by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49263 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:42:43] MaxSem: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%AF%8F%E6%97%A5%E5%9B%BE%E7%89%87/2013%E5%B9%B46%E6%9C%8814%E6%97%A5 has 素輦府 in HTML [16:42:59] hmm [16:43:06] it's still there but firefox ignores it [16:43:10] I mean in feeds [16:43:20] 03(mod) "history" links for folders in Gitblib throw internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49568 summary (10Andre Klapper) [16:44:13] MaxSem: is there some way to workaround it? [16:44:57] well. FFeeds just serves the content. it's FFox's responsibility to interpret it properly [16:45:44] MaxSem: or is there a way to say "don't output a specific part of html in feed"? [16:46:06] 03(mod) blocking for 100000 years doesn't create a block but fills block log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49580 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [16:46:18] via template inclusion [16:46:44] 03(mod) Null revision on page protection based on old version - no conflict detection or load from slave? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49581 (10Andre Klapper) [16:46:48] 03(mod) Offer a command to see what the current string is for a @configure key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49578 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [16:50:24] MaxSem: what title does it set when parsing? I'm considering whether I can make it change by title [16:51:06] e.g. https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Ffeed-featured-entry&action=edit [16:55:12] http://pastebin.ca/2398816 [16:55:25] MaxSem: well I made this https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Featurepic/format&diff=26882562&oldid=26878555 [16:55:37] Could anyone help me with this? It's about an api extension [16:56:12] I have a LDAP question [16:56:21] I can't get it to work [16:56:43] !ask | radiochatr [16:56:43] radiochatr: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [16:56:54] kondi: how exactly is it not working, is it being listed in Special:version [16:56:55] is it possible to make a private wiki using LDAP authentication for read/write accessible from a specific hostname without authentication for indexing ? [16:57:01] 03(mod) incorrect noun case for 'Month XX' in certain languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47211 +comment (10aklapper) [16:57:31] indexing, i.e. enterprise search engine [16:57:36] bawolff: oh yes, it's listed there [16:57:55] kondi: Is it listed on the api help? Are you getting any error messages? [16:58:04] radiochatr, should be. wait a sec... [16:58:10] ok, sure [16:58:20] bawolff: no, no error messages , Not sure about api help, looking now [16:59:12] bawolff: it's there on api.php [17:00:04] kondi: What precisely is not working about it? [17:00:33] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki namespace request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +comment (10sarahstierch) [17:01:04] I'm trying to get a simple 'title ' like result via api using action=query [17:01:37] radiochatr, https://dpaste.de/1ekbK/ [17:01:38] for testing [17:01:47] add it to LocalSettings.php [17:02:11] aha [17:02:22] it's a PHP array with a function element? [17:03:57] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [17:04:45] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki namespace request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:04:48] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki namespace request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:06:02] kondi: I just tested the code you pastebined, and it works fine for me [17:06:12] 03(mod) Meta-Wiki namespace request for "Programs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49312 -shellpolicy +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [17:06:13] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10rainerrillke) [17:06:23] MyExtension="hey there!" gets added to the api output when doing http://localhost/w/git/api.php?action=query&prop=info|MyExtension&titles=Main%20Page [17:06:49] My list of gerrit commits (very tiny little annoying things) is growing :D [17:07:01] MaxSem: ? [17:07:13] yep [17:07:26] * kondi checks [17:07:34] Lcawte: Good :) [17:09:23] Lcawte: Keep up the good work. :-) [17:09:38] I didn't know that you could store functions inside arrays in PHP [17:09:47] bawolff: weird doesn't work on my installation [17:10:12] Hm, when are we likely to see the messages for MW.org (Extension distributor) update, will it be the next wmf version? [17:10:15] kondi: Note that you're setting it on the base "api" element [17:10:57] Lcawte: If the message made it into the next wmf branch, then it should be next update [17:11:23] Whats the latest one? [17:11:34] kondi: for reference, what I get https://dpaste.de/jKZDj/ [17:11:53] bawolff: looking [17:12:37] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10liangent) [17:12:39] Lcawte: 1.22wmf7 I think. That's the latest one that's on my local git according to git branch -r [17:12:59] bawolff: nope, It doesn't work for me. [17:13:12] bawolff: Thanks :) [17:13:27] kondi: You're sure you have prop=MyExtension set in the url? [17:13:42] yes, sure sure [17:13:50] My current set of changes is such advanced work, adding www. to a few https MW.org URLs :P [17:14:19] kondi: Beats me, all I can say is the exact same code worked for me [17:14:30] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10liangent) [17:14:47] bawolff: ah. :\ Reinstall mediawiki maybe? [17:14:55] I'm also very much confused [17:14:58] Lcawte: That's how we hook you. Soon you're be rewriting core [17:15:11] kondi: I'm doubtful that re-installing mediawiki would have much affect [17:15:19] bawolff: I here the people that do that have alright salaries :P [17:15:19] 03(NEW) ULS Not Loading in malayalam wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [17:15:22] hear* [17:15:30] is it possible to find out which users had a botflag in the past? [17:15:35] I imagine they do [17:15:38] * kondi sighs [17:15:54] I want a list of all users that had or still have a botflag in enwiki and dewiki [17:15:56] Atleast I'm starting to memorise some git commands and stuff :) [17:16:17] lbenedix1: Special:log/rights (does not include very old cases) [17:16:24] bawolff: also is there any documentation on how to return data via api? [17:16:53] lbenedix1: Also in theory user rights may sometimes be logged at meta, but usually only for emergency adminship [17:17:41] kondi: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Extensions [17:18:16] bawolff: I know about that one. Thanks for the help :D [17:18:42] 03(mod) incorrect noun case for 'Month XX' in certain languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47211 +comment (10rkaldari) [17:18:43] * bawolff wonders why MwEmbedSupport has to assume that your extensions directory is $IP/extensions [17:18:51] bawolff: can I query the database for this kind of information? the specialpage is not very handy to use [17:19:02] bawolff: I'll check one more time and see. [17:19:19] lbenedix1: You can, although the db is probably not set up in a way to make it super easy to query [17:19:27] lbenedix1: Its the logging table [17:20:38] 03(mod) ULS Not Loading in malayalam wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 (10manojkmohan) [17:21:12] 03(mod) ULS Not Loading in malayalam wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 normal->major (10manojkmohan) [17:26:24] Ugh, why do I keep finding these https://mediawiki.org links :/ [17:29:20] bawolff: are there any indices for the logging table? [17:30:02] lbenedix1: yes, the issue is that the part that says which rights are changed are in a single field as a json blob if i recall [17:30:56] in log_comment I see things like '+sysop' [17:31:20] log_comment is by the user, it can be anything. you want log_params [17:32:39] log_params is empty for all rows I looked at [17:33:50] Hmm, maybe its later on we started to record that. Old log entries may not have any info there [17:34:37] Thanks MaxSem :) [17:35:19] Lcawte, welcome. you're finding them because I hate www [17:35:20] ;) [17:36:15] Makes sense... wouldn't be changing them if https://mediawiki.org was actually HTTPS page :P [17:37:06] log_params is... interesting [17:37:36] 03(mod) MwEmbedSupport doesn't work with non standard layouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45918 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:37:42] Hmm, I've just grep'd and found http://www.mediawiki.org links in core... should those be HTTPS'd ? A quick grep shows quite a few https:// links in core ^.^ [17:38:06] what is the problem with https-links? [17:38:16] I wouldn't be opposed to changing them (or making them protocol-relative) [17:38:32] lbenedix1: The nsa could be spying on what extensions you are using on your wiki!!!!!!!1111 [17:38:56] No extensions in the core repo :P [17:39:16] cant they spy even easier with http? [17:40:02] I would change all links to "//www.mediawiki.org" [17:40:35] that doesn't work on PHP comments :) [17:40:52] links in php comments? [17:41:00] ^^ [17:41:05] Yeah, loads of them :P [17:41:19] lbenedix1: Lcawte is proposing replacing http with https, not the other way [17:41:19] INSTALL is a good example of somewhere they won't :/ [17:41:41] * Lcawte hides NSA id badge [17:41:45] 03(mod) labels for UI controls in ULS panels are not loaded in the Malayalam Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 summary; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [17:42:18] 03(mod) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 +comment (10jayantanth) [17:42:22] Anyway, why would the NSA need to intercept our traffic, when they have listening devices in everyone's laptops? [17:42:27] the NSA can look at Special:Version to find out which extensions you use [17:43:09] * Lcawte reads the first paragraph of the NSA enwiki page... [17:43:12] They have gps trackers in every belt and shoe... I've seen this in "Enemy of the State" [17:43:23] Why were they looking into peoples phone records? [17:43:40] for lulz [17:48:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging gives the same pageViewSessionId for all edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49586 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:49:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:51:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging gives the same pageViewSessionId for all edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49586 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [17:52:07] lbenedix1, did you figure out your log_params issue? [17:52:22] there is no issue [17:52:58] just remains from several migrations in the db [18:04:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 +comment (10dtaraborelli) [18:05:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace-only headings should be collapsed to (blank) paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49452 summary (10James Forrester) [18:05:38] 03(mod) Implement the same EventLogging of page edits in wikitext editor as in VisualEditor for comparison purposes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49587 +comment (10dtaraborelli) [18:16:00] !mail [18:16:01] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/$1 [18:18:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't paste into a selection covering the end of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49551 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:18:58] !wgSMTP [18:19:02] !wg SMTP [18:19:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP [18:19:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:19:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:19:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging gives the same pageViewSessionId for all edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49586 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:20:03] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 +comment (10me.praveen) [18:23:20] 03(mod) edit conflict while editing the last section of a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22783 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [18:24:09] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [18:25:49] 03(mod) Description of watchlist inaccurate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44922 +comment (10mpinchuk) [18:26:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 (10Ori Livneh) [18:26:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 +comment (10jforrester) [18:26:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging doesn't log user_id so we can't split out user behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49585 (10James Forrester) [18:26:49] 03(mod) VisualEditor: EventLogging gives the same pageViewSessionId for all edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49586 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:27:15] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [18:27:38] 03(NEW) Request for a new small extension setting page language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49588 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Extensions requests; () [18:28:27] 03(mod) Request for a new small extension setting page language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49588 normal->15enhancement; +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [18:30:29] 03(mod) Editnotice not working Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49576 +comment (10bjorsch) [18:34:07] 03(mod) zh-hk, zh-cn, ... should be changed to zh-hant-hk, zh-hans-cn, ... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49274 +comment (10liangent) [18:35:56] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:35:59] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:36:50] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:37:22] 03(mod) Echo doesn't work on SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41987 +comment (10Erik Bernhardson) [18:40:25] 03(mod) Upload throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'loadImage' " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49550 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [18:40:48] 03(mod) Enable phpunit tests for Echo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48554 +comment (10ebernhardson) [18:42:32] 03(NEW) $wgTranslateBlacklist on wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49589 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [18:42:52] 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:42:54] 03(mod) $wgTranslateBlacklist on wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49589 (10Liangent) [18:42:56] 03(mod) $wgTranslateBlacklist of zh-* on metawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37338 (10Liangent) [18:49:39] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10Liangent) [18:53:48] 03(NEW) Cannot Revision Delete Original File Edit Summary when there is only one upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49590 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [18:54:05] 03(mod) Watchlist token auto-generator too zealous - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21912 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [18:54:49] 03(NEW) Gerrit's search box's automatic expansion and contraction is disruptive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49591 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [18:57:55] 03(mod) labels for UI controls in ULS panels are not loaded in the Malayalam Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 +comment (10manojkmohanme03107) [19:08:25] 03(mod) labels for UI controls in ULS panels are not loaded in the Malayalam Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 +comment (10aklapper) [19:08:47] 03(NEW) asterisks at the in the load.php uri can cause 403 Forbidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49592 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; () [19:09:07] 03(mod) Gerrit's search box's automatic expansion and contraction is disruptive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49591 +upstream; +comment (10Chad H.) [19:12:11] 03(mod) asterisks at the in the load.php uri can cause 403 Forbidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49592 +comment (10mah) [19:12:40] 03(mod) Cannot Revision-Delete Original File Edit Summary when there is only one upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49590 summary (10Andre Klapper) [19:12:55] 03(mod) Cannot Revision-Delete Original File Edit Summary when there is only one upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49590 (10Andre Klapper) [19:14:37] 03(mod) Gerrit's search box's automatic expansion and contraction is disruptive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49591 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [19:15:01] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10rainerrillke) [19:17:38] 03(mod) asterisks at the in the load.php uri can cause 403 Forbidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49592 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [19:28:01] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 (10ssastry) [19:32:14] 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:32:17] 03(mod) Support for WAV and AIFF by converting files to FLAC automatically. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20252 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:32:23] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 (10ssastry) [19:37:44] chrismcmahon: Hi. Can you take a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/63135/ ? I'd like to get that merged. I want to try to implement one of the scenarios there. [19:37:46] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 (10ssastry) [19:38:25] aharoni: which scenario? [19:40:18] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:40:34] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 +comment (10aklapper) [19:41:11] chrismcmahon: sorry, I was confused. I actually meant https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/63140/ . [19:41:15] 03(mod) Review, merge and deploy chinese-collation branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44667 +comment (10greg) [19:41:19] 03(mod) asterisks at the in the load.php uri can cause 403 Forbidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49592 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [19:41:59] chrismcmahon: And I meant the scenario "Scenario: 'Language' and 'Fonts' are shown within the 'Display' option" in the file uls_display_settings_menu_logged-user.feature. [19:42:46] aharoni: I think I may already have that running: https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/blob/master/features/uls_cog_sidebar_logged_user.feature [19:43:30] 03(mod) Support nested tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49555 (10ssastry) [19:43:33] aharoni: last 3 scenarios in that file. [19:43:50] aharoni: might need more sophistication though [19:44:19] aharoni: can you run these tests on your local machine right now? [19:45:30] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [19:46:14] chrismcmahon: Run? They are not implemented yet. (Or am I misunderstanding the question?) [19:46:25] I am able to run other Cucumber tests on my machine. [19:48:06] aharoni: they are implemented, I wrote them [19:49:26] aharoni: $ bundle exec cucumber features/uls_cog_sidebar_logged_user.feature to run that one [19:50:02] chrismcmahon: Oh, let me try. [19:50:33] 03(mod) Show "email" instead of "login" as field label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24992 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:51:19] aharoni: you should see uls_cog_sidebar_logged_user_steps.rb and the page object is mostly in /browsertests/features/support/modules/interlanguage_module.rb [19:51:33] hei guys. when i try to access my preferences i got this error. how i can solve it?[24caaa42] 2013-06-14 19:49:54: Fatal exception of type MWException [19:52:29] banica: which wiki? [19:52:45] banica: see the apache or PHP error logs, or enable debug, to get a detailed exception message we can investigate [19:52:51] !debug | banica [19:52:51] banica: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [19:54:16] banica: set $wgShowExceptionDetails to true at the bottom of your LocalSettings.php [19:56:04] aharoni: the other ULS test running right now that I created is https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/blob/master/features/uls_cog_sidebar_anon_user.feature [19:56:24] chrismcmahon: I'll take a look soon [19:57:07] 03(mod) Add some colons in some places of the "Bugzilla Weekly Report" email to wikitech-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29355 +comment (10aklapper) [19:58:54] one second [19:59:01] aharoni: great. I think we could alter https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests/blob/master/features/support/pages/interlanguage_page.rb and no_interlanguage_page.rb to use setlang if we want [20:00:44] this is what i get http://pastebin.com/QspFzQh0 [20:02:37] aaaaa [20:02:54] i've renamed "Vector" to "vector" and it works now :) [20:03:16] guys can you please tell me where i can find a good manaual for mediawiki administrators? [20:04:02] 03(mod) Warn that patches should go to Gerrit instead of Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42606 +comment (10aklapper) [20:04:06] Umm, the pages on MediaWiki.org ? [20:04:14] Not sure if "good" is the right word [20:04:30] Also depends on what portion you're looking to administer [20:04:57] If you're looking to fix conflicting/broken extensions the Doxygen docs are pretty good [20:05:05] https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/ [20:05:16] The friendly people on #mediawiki are always good [20:05:33] We can't tell you to rtfm because we need to write it first ;) [20:06:04] good one [20:06:35] But on a serious note, most of the sysadmin related docs are at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sysadmin_hub [20:07:11] i want to create an enciclopedia about my country (romania) and i've created more then 300 articles using "Category" magic word and now i need to replace with the romanian word "categorie" [20:08:34] I haven't actually tried this extension yet, but this might work for you https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text [20:10:33] 03(mod) Review and deploy bugzilla mobile interface in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42209 +comment (10aklapper) [20:11:11] Yeah, your options are basically that extension or make a pywikipedia bot (or do a lot of grunt work by hand) [20:11:27] let me see what happens :P [20:12:05] 03(mod) "history" links for folders in Gitblit throw internal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49568 summary (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [20:12:06] Note that mediawiki should treat both the english Category and the romanian equivalent, so you don't have to change it over [20:15:36] 03(mod) Notification bot posts the same info twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46997 +comment (10MZMcBride) [20:15:58] 03(mod) Gerrit notification bot posts the same info twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46997 summary (10MZMcBride) [20:18:46] for ex. i have my enciclopedia at www.romania365.ro and i will want to have the english version at romania365.net (or similar website). is it possible to have the same enciclopedia on 2 websites? (drupal style) [20:20:18] 03(NEW) Rename two indexes in the Echo extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49593 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [20:20:18] 03(mod) WMF Schema Changes - Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49188 (10Erik Bernhardson) [20:21:11] banica: Not sure I understand correctly, but it is possible to have the same MediaWiki site served from two different domains [20:22:07] 03(mod) Install Component watching extension for bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37105 +comment (10aklapper) [20:22:22] i need romania365.ro in romanian and romania365.net in english (same pages) [20:22:42] If $wgServer is not set in LocalSettings.php it will be auto-detected and things should mostly just work (you might have conflicts if you use {{SERVER}} magic word in pages. If you want to be really paranoid you can set $wgRenderHashAppend to split the parser cache) [20:23:05] 03(mod) FOUC on Bugzilla portal page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49474 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:23:10] banica: As in the user language different, but the content being the same, or do you want entirely different content [20:23:22] 03(mod) File upload control in the actions bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49279 (10Jon) [20:23:23] same content [20:23:52] for ex. romania365.ro/Bucuresti (Bucuresti is the capital of Romania) and romania365.net/Bucharest (in english) [20:24:28] 03(mod) Notification preferences update (tooltips for notification categories) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47094 +comment (10aklapper) [20:24:47] So exact same pages, with same title, and the content of the pages is not translated, but things like the sidebar are translated? [20:25:00] no [20:25:08] i want the content to be translated :) [20:25:37] Translated by humans, or magically using a computer? [20:25:44] humans :) [20:25:54] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate broken since GitBlit migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49521 +comment (10aklapper) [20:26:14] In that case, why not just have two separate websites? [20:26:19] like wikipedia [20:26:34] 03(mod) Kill the "ALL YOUR BUG ARE BELONG TO ME" splash on the front page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45678 +comment (10b) [20:26:45] r u srs? [20:27:02] Hi, is there a way to force mediawiki not to redirecting user from example.org to example.org/wiki/Main_Page ? [20:27:29] yeap, like wikipedia, but using domanins, not subdomains [20:28:00] in wikipedia you have ro.wikipedia.org, en.wikipedia.org and so on... but i need romania365.ro and romania365.net (for english) [20:28:05] banica: yeah that's fine. In wikipedia land, each are set up as entirely separate websites. The fact they're using subdomain is just where someone put the website [20:28:28] banica: The only linking between languages is that they have interlanguage links set up in the interwiki table [20:28:47] (Well there's some other linkage, with global image usage, but that's the main one) [20:28:52] i will need the same database with users [20:29:04] !wg SharedTables [20:29:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSharedTables [20:29:16] 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170 +comment (10b) [20:29:34] banica: That's not the useful version of that link [20:30:01] banica: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Shared_database for how to share the user table [20:30:30] 03(mod) Spec out registry/factory for formatters and parsers in the backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49265 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:30:48] let me read. thanks :) [20:32:37] Could anyone answer me question, please? Is this even possible? [20:33:25] 03(mod) New bug form doesn't include "See also" field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45598 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:33:31] elektryk91: Sure, change your rewrite rules... [20:34:15] What rule should I add? [20:34:43] Now i have http://pastebin.com/ssGNNgRE [20:36:08] I'm not very good with rewrite rules, but I guess it might be the bottom one that needs removing? You'll probably want to get someone elses input... [20:37:19] 03(mod) Showing/hiding advanced fields entering new bug causes fields to move horizontally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22167 (10Andre Klapper) [20:37:31] I think all rewrite rules should be deleted [20:38:37] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate broken since GitBlit migration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49521 (10Brad Jorsch) [20:41:51] 03(mod) link to "depends on"/"blocks" in HTML bugmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47556 +comment (10aklapper) [20:42:03] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deletion from slugged header causes preceding paragraph to appear to be deleted, but remain in the DM(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49424 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [20:46:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deletion from slugged header causes preceding paragraph to appear to be deleted, but remain in the DM(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49424 +comment (10okeyes) [20:46:31] a/win 33 [20:47:06] 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [20:47:49] 03(mod) Server-side upload of large number of files to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48205 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:50:14] 03(mod) blocking for 100000 years doesn't create a block but fills block log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49580 +comment (10krenair) [20:52:38] Hey :-) [20:57:01] 03(mod) Default searches for all registered users in the left sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28209 +comment (10aklapper) [20:57:14] where i cna find tutorials on mediawiki similar with what they have at lynda.com? [20:58:52] 03(mod) Notification preferences update (tooltips for notification categories) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47094 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [21:01:16] marktraceur: thoughts on moving 'Campaigns' into its own contenthandler? [21:01:21] 03(mod) Replicate Bugzilla database to Labs testing instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28339 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:02:11] Urgh. [21:02:19] 03(NEW) en.m on beta labs down with 500 error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49594 normal; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); () [21:02:28] YuviPanda: I don't have enough experience with ContentHandler to know, but I can look in...an hour? [21:02:39] marktraceur: sure. [21:03:38] 03(mod) Add an option to make email subjects for new bugs compatible with gmail's threading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49250 +upstream; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:04:47] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) when basetimestamp is not provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 summary; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [21:07:01] 03(mod) Testing bug 31790 (no notification sent to wikibugs-l when no description given) - please ignore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49595 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:09:33] 03(mod) Submitting a bug with only a summary and no description doesn't trigger the wikibugs-l email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31790 +comment (10aklapper) [21:11:04] 03(mod) Add AWB to list of products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39072 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:12:09] 03(mod) add a custom field "commit in gerrit" in bugzilla ui. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39399 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:13:24] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 (10Aaron Schulz) [21:14:23] 03(mod) Create 'Arrays' component in the 'Extensions' product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45737 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:15:09] chrismcmahon: I ran features/uls_cog_sidebar_logged_user.feature and it said: [21:15:32] oh, I'll just paste it. a sec. [21:15:40] 03(mod) Text Alignment on submitting new bugs (post_bug.cgi) needs to be appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33681 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:16:02] chrismcmahon: http://pastebin.com/9ZZG2Gdi [21:17:37] 03(mod) "My bugs" query only shows open bug reports - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43152 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:17:37] 03(mod) Default searches for all registered users in the left sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28209 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:18:38] 03(mod) Add a keyword for postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43459 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:18:52] 03(NEW) Adding a file/media fails with wrong wikicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49596 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [21:19:36] chrismcmahon: sorry, disregard it, I ran a wrong version. [21:20:35] 03(mod) New component: MediaWiki extensions > CurrentUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45306 +comment (10aklapper) [21:20:39] aharoni: beta labs is serving 500s for the last couple hours, sorry about that http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ [21:21:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Adding a file/media fails with wrong wikicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49596 normal->major; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [21:21:25] aharoni: I understand Antoine is aware of beta outage, but the ULS tests run there and there is nothing for them to run against right now [21:22:32] 03(mod) Linkify wrapped wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22340 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [21:22:55] 03(mod) Special:Block should mention that user still has read access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49562 +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair)) [21:23:38] chrismcmahon: oh, the site is completely broken. that's not a problem, I can just run it with my own instance. [21:24:12] chrismcmahon: my wiki uses URLs like http://localhost/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogout . [21:24:35] how should I use it with the MEDIAWIKI_URL environment variable? [21:25:47] aharoni: "export MEDIAWIKI_URL=http://localhost/wiki/" should do it [21:26:06] aharoni: that error in dpaste was the login step failing because of no login page [21:26:38] hei guys [21:26:48] in this moment my wiki is in english [21:27:03] and i want to move it in romanian [21:27:10] aharoni on second thought you might need "export MEDIAWIKI_URL=http://localhost/wiki/index.php?title=" because we work off of only page names [21:27:41] i want also to change key words like "category" with similar words in romanian (like "categorie") [21:28:00] banica: Usually controlled by $wgLanguageCode setting in LocalSettings.php . Note after changing that setting you should run maintinance/refreshLinks.php [21:28:19] Krenair: it's highly important to block people for 100 millennia ツ [21:28:29] :) [21:29:43] When eternity is too short but infinity is too long [21:30:03] 03(mod) File upload control in the actions bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49279 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:30:06] 03(mod) File upload control in the actions bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49279 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:32:20] chrismcmahon: looks like it's running... [21:32:21] how i can refresh links bawolf? [21:33:49] we should have a new vote about this at least once a millenium [21:33:55] banica: change directory into the maintenance folder of your install and run php refreshLinks.php [21:34:00] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10b) [21:34:47] can you please give me a link to a documentation on this? [21:35:44] what means "change directory into the maintenance folder of your install "? [21:35:55] banica: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RefreshLinks.php [21:36:08] i don't get what i have to do from there :( [21:36:44] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10b) [21:36:58] banica: find the location mediawiki is installed on the server and from there switch to "maintenance" [21:37:15] man cd [21:37:20] 03(mod) Handle thumbnail purges when thumbnails are in cache but not in the backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44428 (10Aaron Schulz) [21:37:58] 03(mod) ChangeNotificationJob OOMs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46763 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [21:38:11] i have just FTP access to my server [21:38:13] 03(mod) Adding talk topic doesn't invalidate local browser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49557 summary (10Jon) [21:38:53] banica: you need to ask somebody with shell access for help then [21:39:38] 03(mod) Adding talk topic doesn't invalidate local browser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49557 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:40:11] 03(mod) Special:Block ignores user's preferred language for some menu items (shown in wiki's default language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49561 (10jidanni) [21:40:13] banica: The refreshLinks part isn't critical [21:40:44] banica: Some pages might use only the english version of the magic words until the next time you edit them, which isn't that bad a thing [21:41:24] 03(mod) Upload throws error "Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'loadImage' " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49550 +comment (10mtraceur) [21:44:07] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10b) [21:44:59] but what about ReplaceText for all the magic words i've already used? it's a good idea? [21:47:20] English magic words are always allowed, regardless of the language setting [21:47:47] 03(mod) After login, securely redirect user through a central domain to establish a central session - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46903 +comment (10aschulz4587) [21:56:30] 03(NEW) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49597 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [21:56:31] 03(mod) Add a descriptive tooltip to custom field "Web Browser" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28796 (10Andre Klapper) [21:56:32] 03(mod) Add an option to make email subjects for new bugs compatible with gmail's threading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49250 (10Andre Klapper) [21:56:40] 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 4.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49597 (10Andre Klapper) [22:00:10] 03(mod) Prepending or appending text should not throw edit conflicts (action=edit) when basetimestamp is not provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 +comment (10rainerrillke) [22:04:06] is it possible to edit http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.22wmf6/resources/jquery/jquery.qunit.css for not interfering with font-family? possibly adding font-family: inherits; on a separate css would be fine [22:17:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion inspector blank on opening some templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49493 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [22:20:24] chrismcmahon: https://dpaste.de/f9rzK/ [22:20:54] 03(NEW) Gerrit's PHP highlighting does not recognize elseif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49598 minor; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [22:21:28] chrismcmahon: they all say "timed out after 5 seconds"... what does it mean? that it's just not on the screen? or is it broken in a deeper way? [22:21:52] 03(mod) Gerrit's PHP highlighting does not recognize elseif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49598 +comment (10Chad H.) [22:21:54] 03(mod) Gerrit doesn't highlight "elseif" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40241 +comment (10Chad H.) [22:23:22] 03(NEW) Dying workers are not always restarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49599 normal; Parsoid: Web API; () [22:23:46] 03(mod) Dying workers are not always restarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49599 (10Gabriel Wicke) [22:23:50] 03(mod) Rename two indexes in the Echo extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49593 (10Andre Klapper) [22:23:52] 03(mod) Echo doesn't work on SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41987 (10Andre Klapper) [22:23:58] 03(mod) Gerrit code highlighting if awful (doesn't highlight "elseif") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40241 summary; +comment (10Chad H.) [22:24:05] 03(mod) labels for UI controls in ULS panels are not loaded in the Malayalam Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49584 +comment (10s.mazeland) [22:25:05] 03(mod) Customise Bugzilla front page to have more useful links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22170 +comment (10aklapper) [22:28:00] 03(mod) Dying workers are not always restarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49599 +comment (10gwicke) [22:29:53] --^ lol - Wikimedia is a slave driver. All its workers are dying... [22:31:23] bawolff: Yeah, but we usually resuscitate them [22:32:14] Maybe the lack of resurrection is what's causing the editor retention proble, [22:32:20] *problem [22:34:05] chrismcmahon: you may be glad to know that I fixed a bug in ULS and many more tests pass now. [22:34:21] aharoni: did the test login? edit /browsertests/config/config.yml for user name. edit /browsertests/config/secret.yml with "mediawiki_password: YOUR_USER_PASSWORD". or run the test for anon in the /features directory [22:34:21] bawolff: You know we should look into that [22:34:22] Those workers were subpar anyway [22:34:32] chrismcmahon: brb [22:34:34] aharoni: nice! [22:34:47] csteipp: Constantly bickering [22:35:12] I know. It's better off this way... we just need to hide the bodies better next time. [22:35:12] bawolff: Editor Defibrillation Experimentation team, it should happen [22:35:42] Suck to be in the control group [22:37:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Seven_Ages_of_Wikipedians#WikiDeath [22:43:35] 03(mod) Extension tags starting with a capital () seem to confuse the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49525 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:45:56] I'm working on troubleshooting a failed 1.21 upgrade. It just spins when I try to access the site, but I don't have access to apache or mysql logs to see what's up. Do I have any other ways of looking at what may be causing this? [22:47:13] jbelcher: What browser are you using? [22:47:49] chrome [22:47:52] K [22:47:58] jbelcher: Open up the developer tools [22:48:10] These should be in a tools menu, somewhere, I'm not sure where exactly [22:49:13] Haha, it must have known someone was taking the time to help me marktraceur... it just snapped out of it and it's working fine [22:49:33] my guess is a rogue DB or server thread, maybe a block on the network io [22:50:10] Maybe it was doing some sort of recache operation (due to upgrade) that was much more expensive then it should have been [22:50:36] bawolff it's possible; it's a decently large install (15k+ articles) [22:51:33] I'm not sure if it made it all the way through the upgrade as well—got through the schema via commandline and eventually hung up late into the script, and through mw-config it never made it past updating the db [22:52:40] chrismcmahon: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/68816/ is the change that fixes a lot of failing tests [22:52:44] arrbee: ^ [22:53:10] bawolff — is there a way to run the web updater without any of the expensive updates? [22:53:38] aharoni: I wasn't seeing those failures but I can see how that change makes sense. [22:53:47] no... If you're on a large website you should use the command line updater [22:54:23] jbelcher: You can run the individual updates individually if you know what you're doing [22:55:08] People with super large websites (Wikipedia size) do fancy things like taking db servers out of rotation to run updates on them individually [22:55:14] chrismcmahon: I think that it was failing intermittently. [22:56:14] bawolff yeah we only have one db, 3 frontends. I will try running it again to make sure it nabs it all. Thanks for the help all. [22:56:15] aharoni: state is hard :-) [23:05:30] chrismcmahon: it was sometimes working because the order of properties in JS is random, but this behavior shouldn't be random. [23:06:01] chrismcmahon: now a more general question: to implement my own tests, is http://docs.seleniumhq.org/docs/03_webdriver.jsp#introducing-webdriver the right place to start? [23:07:31] aharoni: to implement your own tests, either Zeljko or I should probably pair with you to walk you through the process [23:08:01] aharoni: we are not using the raw Webdriver API. one moment... [23:08:57] aharoni: look at https://github.com/cheezy/page-object [23:11:55] 03(mod) Buffer ParserService output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49566 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:18:35] 03(NEW) Subpage Slash in Somali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49600 minor; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()