[00:00:02] <danolj>	 basically http://wiki.domain.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit 
[00:00:20] <danolj>	 becomes http://wiki.domain.org/mediawiki/index
[00:00:31] <danolj>	 everything after the period gets removed
[00:00:35] <danolj>	 :-/
[00:03:05] <Jasper_Deng>	 hhm
[00:03:08] <danolj>	 the rewrite rules are not matching the pattern of the first url
[00:03:13] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: you may have to escape the .
[00:03:15] <Jasper_Deng>	 with \.
[00:03:19] <Jasper_Deng>	 just a thought
[00:03:24] <danolj>	 yeah, that's not it
[00:03:38] <danolj>	 I wonder if I messed up LocalSettings.php somehow?
[00:03:47] <Jasper_Deng>	 what do you have in LocalSettings.php?
[00:04:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) API: action=parse should default to wikitext contentmodel if no title given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48201  summary (10Krinkle)
[00:04:37] <hexmode>	 Krenair: here... let me check my bz privs
[00:05:40] <danolj>	 Jasper_Deng: you want me to pastebin the entire file or is there a specific area you want to look at
[00:05:40] <Krenair>	 You still have bz admin
[00:06:07] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: $wgServer, $wgCanonicalServer, and the other ones mentioned in that (wrong) instruction se.tr
[00:06:09] <Jasper_Deng>	 set*
[00:06:17] <Krenair>	 at least according to https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=System_administrators/table&diff=5594090&oldid=5513992
[00:06:30] <hexmode>	 Krenair: Reedy, fwiw, I do still have bz admin privs but I want to make sure I coordinate anything with Andre
[00:08:11] <danolj>	 Jasper_Deng: http://pastebin.com/TzYWmQSY
[00:08:23] <danolj>	 no setting for $wgCanonicalServer
[00:09:26] <Jasper_Deng>	 your rewrite rules?
[00:09:47] <danolj>	 http://pastebin.com/vDKB7NFu
[00:10:24] <Jasper_Deng>	 ok, none of your rules mention "/wiki"
[00:10:39] <Jasper_Deng>	 or rather, one of them is inverted wrongly
[00:11:41] <danolj>	 hmm..
[00:12:12] <Jasper_Deng>	 disable the main page one first
[00:13:12] <danolj>	 done
[00:13:30] <Jasper_Deng>	 also, based on my rough understanding, the parameter after /wiki has to be passed to index.php as ?title=
[00:13:32] <danolj>	 does not resolve the problem
[00:14:36] <danolj>	 does not appendQueryString="true" do that?
[00:14:59] <Jasper_Deng>	 I wouldn't think so, because whatever's after /wiki/ isn't recognized as a parameter
[00:16:38] <danolj>	 Let me try the other rewrite method..  one moment
[00:16:56] <Moussekateer>	 Does anyone here have a good understanding of the job queue system? Specifically, what are the job_params for each job entry?
[00:19:34] <danolj>	 Jasper_Deng: the same behavior occurs using url="/mediawiki/index.php?title={UrlEncode:{R:1}}"
[00:19:45] <Moussekateer>	 I'm trying to trim my job queue by deleting duplicate jobs (those that have same job_cmd, job_namespace and job_title)
[00:20:20] <Jasper_Deng>	 hhm
[00:20:20] <danolj>	 neither of the <match> rules match a url of the format wiki.domain.org/mediawiki/ and so they should not be executed
[00:20:38] <danolj>	 the IIS GUI for testing redirects also confirms that behavior
[00:20:57] <Jasper_Deng>	 I'm not totally aware of the degree to which the module does regex.
[00:22:48] * Jasper_Deng  guesses danolj didn't try \. but doubts that's probably the root issue.

[00:22:51] <Jasper_Deng>	 although it seems likely.
[00:24:30] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: yes, you do need to escape the .
[00:24:34] <danolj>	 I have removed all the rewrite rules
[00:24:46] <danolj>	 and am using mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[00:24:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 according to documentation
[00:24:51] <danolj>	 the edit function remains broken
[00:25:12] <Jasper_Deng>	 well, that's b/c your $wg's are wrong b/c they assume rewrite rules, ofc.
[00:26:03] <danolj>	 those were changed back to the default as well
[00:27:07] <Jasper_Deng>	 are you still getting redirected to an "index"?
[00:27:35] <danolj>	 yeah
[00:27:49] <danolj>	 there are no other redirect rules present in IIS
[00:28:03] <danolj>	 and this only happens for edit or create at the top level
[00:29:35] <Jasper_Deng>	 your $wgArticlePath?
[00:30:03] <danolj>	 one moment
[00:30:28] <danolj>	 commented out
[00:30:28] <danolj>	 # $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1";
[00:30:38] <Jasper_Deng>	 Try setting it explicitly
[00:30:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 $wgArticlePath="/mediawiki/index.php?title=$1"
[00:31:20] <danolj>	 nope, same behavior
[00:31:28] <danolj>	 $wgArticlePath = "/mediawiki/$1";
[00:31:48] <Jasper_Deng>	 I mean set it to that value above
[00:31:56] <Jasper_Deng>	 b/c you have no URL rewrite rule, right?
[00:33:03] <danolj>	 all changes made to shorten the URLs have been removed. No rewrite rules, no redirects, vanilla IIS configuration
[00:33:22] <danolj>	 the setting for $wgArticlePath to "/mediawiki/$1" was made per your request
[00:33:30] <Jasper_Deng>	 should be $wgArticlePath="/mediawiki/index.php?title=$1"
[00:34:22] <danolj>	 you are correct, my fault, sorry
[00:37:15] <danolj>	 I've run tests, setting as listed above causes 500 errors, commenting out allows mw to work with the exception of the aforementioned edit issue
[00:39:37] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: did you remember the ; ?
[00:39:50] <danolj>	 $wgArticlePath = "/mediawiki/index.php?title=$1"
[00:40:01] <danolj>	 direct cut & paste
[00:40:16] * danolj  tries to follow jasper's instructions carefully

[00:41:00] <japrrpaj>	 good evening
[00:43:10] <japrrpaj>	 I have a project for which I would like to use mediawiki but I would need a "Translate" link like the "Edit" link putting the content of the page on, for example, a pootle server, allowing for translation of the page into any language. Then the translated page would live on the version for that languague on the same wiki. Is this possible?
[00:43:12] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: yeah you need the ; after it
[00:43:23] <japrrpaj>	 can I put a bounty on it?
[00:43:36] <Jasper_Deng>	 !extension Translate
[00:43:36] <wm-bot>	 MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions.
[00:43:40] <Jasper_Deng>	 ehh
[00:43:45] <danolj>	 well duh
[00:43:50] <Jasper_Deng>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
[00:43:53] <danolj>	 that was aimed at me
[00:44:01] * danolj  is an idiot sometimes

[00:44:10] <japrrpaj>	 thank you! I'll look into it
[00:44:52] <danolj>	 so 500 error gone, edit still not working
[00:46:01] <Jasper_Deng>	 are you still getting redirected?
[00:46:20] <danolj>	 yes
[00:46:32] <danolj>	 let me check something for a moment, I'm going to sniff http traffic
[00:47:03] <Jasper_Deng>	 I've never heard of this before
[00:48:40] <japrrpaj>	 but this allows for the translation of articles like in edit?
[00:49:15] <Jasper_Deng>	 japrrpaj: I'm not completely following you
[00:51:20] <danolj>	 Jasper_Deng: I'm suspecting a browser problem
[00:51:41] <Jasper_Deng>	 which ones have you tried?
[00:51:42] <danolj>	 its a chrome problem
[00:52:04] <danolj>	 opening an incognito window and trying the URLs showed them all working fine
[00:52:10] <Jasper_Deng>	 clear your cache!
[00:52:17] <danolj>	 yep
[00:52:36] <danolj>	 why the heck is the browser, when I put in a URL, sending a much shorter URL? 
[00:52:38] * Jasper_Deng  is guessing danolj would like to put back the rewrite rules now

[00:52:46] <danolj>	 heh
[00:52:51] <danolj>	 if I can remember how!
[00:53:49] <japrrpaj>	 is it possible to export a wiki article to LaTeX?
[00:53:56] <danolj>	 I am annoyed in a major major way and deeply sorry to have wasted your time
[00:54:08] <danolj>	 wtf was chrome doing?
[00:54:08] <Jasper_Deng>	 no problem
[00:54:29] <Jasper_Deng>	 japrrpaj: not that I know of
[00:54:36] <Jasper_Deng>	 danolj: sometimes the cache is rotten.
[00:54:42] <Jasper_Deng>	 or a faulty add-on
[00:54:58] <danolj>	 no add ons installed - I keep this particular instance clear of junk
[00:55:10] <danolj>	 but I did have a ton of tabs open - searches for iis wikimedia install documentation :-)
[01:01:00] <japrrpaj>	 wikibooks converts books to .pdf
[01:01:09] <japrrpaj>	 so there must be something LaTeX-able
[01:02:27] <Kolega2357>	  Do everyone know the answer to this question? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:CentralAuth#No_accounts_matching_your_name_were_found_in_the_central_account_tracking_table.21_The_database_must_be_corrupt.
[01:15:05] <danolj>	 hi guys, how do I remove the math challenge on page edits?
[01:15:11] <danolj>	 that is, saving the edit?
[01:27:11] <Moussekateer>	 danolj, Remove the extension that adds it? Or set it up so autoconfirmed users don't see it
[01:28:09] <danolj>	 thanks, no extensions, will look into the other settings
[01:28:15] <danolj>	 just ran into this .doc upload bug https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44379/
[01:28:17] <danolj>	 patch time
[01:28:46] <danolj>	 oh, well, that patch has been abandoned
[02:06:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) revisions need to be scrubbed from the Wikipedia database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50031 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[02:08:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) revisions need to be scrubbed from the English Wikipedia database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50031  summary (10Graham87)
[02:14:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Lohit Panjabi font display error of siharis (vowel short I) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50032 normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; ()
[02:17:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lohit Panjabi font display error of siharis (vowel short I) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50032  (10Guglani)
[02:26:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lohit Panjabi font display error of siharis (vowel short I) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50032  (10Guglani)
[03:07:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ULS from ml.wiktionary and re-install Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49889  +comment (10vssun9)
[03:18:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Toolbar shows on non-existent pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50033 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; ()
[03:22:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid 500 error on some articles. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50015  normal->major; +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[03:30:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39599  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[04:04:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ULS from ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49889  summary (10sunil)
[04:05:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ULS from ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49889  +comment (10sunil)
[04:15:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) about to lose ability to log to Identi.ca and Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[04:20:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) about to lose ability to log to Identi.ca and Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10greg)
[04:31:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) revisions need to be scrubbed from the English Wikipedia database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50031   +shell (10This, that and the other)
[04:31:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile Beta edition: can not edit the 11th and after section in a article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50017  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[04:32:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) about to lose ability to log to Identi.ca and Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10ori)
[04:35:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Translation: namespace to English Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50007  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[04:52:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ArticleFeedback extension from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49976  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[05:08:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Edit button sometimes chooses wrong section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49208  +comment (10Qiyue2001)
[05:18:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile Beta edition: can not edit the 11th and after section in some articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50017  summary (10Qiyue2001)
[05:26:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile Beta edition: can not edit the 11th and after section in some articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50017  +comment (10qiyue2001)
[05:30:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile Beta edition: can not edit the 11th and after section in some articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50017  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[05:30:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Edit button sometimes chooses wrong section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49208  +comment (10at.light)
[06:20:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39599  +comment (10James Forrester)
[06:28:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Convert save dialog to use ve.ui.Dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48566  (10James Forrester)
[06:28:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426  (10James Forrester)
[06:36:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Requesting to sinhala wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50034 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[06:42:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: New images get a link=… set whether or not they need it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49844  (10James Forrester)
[06:43:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:UploadCampaigns and Special:UploadCampaign contents are hidden from people without editing rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36914  +comment (10nischayn22)
[06:44:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'description' of undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50016  +comment (10James Forrester)
[06:44:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion inspector blank on opening some templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49493  +comment (10James Forrester)
[06:44:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion inspector blank on opening some templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49493  (10James Forrester)
[06:47:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images not displayed in latest VE deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50008  +comment (10James Forrester)
[06:53:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images not displayed in latest VE deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50008  +comment (10jforrester)
[06:55:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981  (10James Forrester)
[07:03:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images not displayed in latest VE deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50008  +comment (10at.light)
[07:21:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Images with HTML tags in captions are invisible (along with other images on the same page) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50035 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[07:26:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:UploadCampaigns and Special:UploadCampaign contents are hidden from people without editing rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36914  +comment (10nischayn22)
[07:28:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images turned into mw:Placeholder in certain cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50035  summary; +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[07:29:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Consecutive images align incorrectly in "edit" mode and cannot be modified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50013  +comment (10James Forrester)
[07:47:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: enwiki template {{columns-list}} looks broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50036 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[08:12:49] <Flexo_>	 I'm having an issue with the hashtables extension, if anyone here's particularly familiar with it
[08:13:08] <Flexo_>	 trying to use it to set up a color table... it used to be a giant switch statement template, which worked fine, but a hash table isn't
[08:13:25] <Flexo_>	 I think it might be that it's padding the output with spaces or something, but I'm not sure how to get around that
[08:17:21] <Flexo_>	 this is a pastebin of the template: http://pastebin.com/g8C3sts5
[08:18:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) OutputPage: Module state of "user" (and similar modules) should be set to "ready" instead of "missing" when there is none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46854  +comment (10Krinkle)
[08:22:09] <Wikinaut>	 hello. For E:UserMerge I need a clever database query for multi-row deletion from table watchlist to remove duplicates wl_user, wl_namespace, wl_title ... Is someone listening here who can help me ?
[08:26:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) OutputPage: Don't add <script> for load.php?modules=site&only=scripts if there is no site js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50037 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[08:31:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Content of template is deployed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49673  (10aranet100)
[08:32:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) OutputPage: Don't add <script> for load.php?modules=site&only=scripts if there is no site js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50037  +comment (10krinklemail)
[08:32:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS creates empty languages menu in the sidebar on special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50027  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:32:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [INTERLANG] Avoid expand/contract options for language section when list is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47973  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:32:30] <Flexo_>	 heh, definitely a lot of idlers in here
[08:32:44] <Flexo_>	 can't seem to find any good examples that would be relevant to me either
[08:34:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) OutputPage: Don't output mw.loader.state "loading" and mw.loader.state "ready" for the same module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50038 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[08:35:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) OutputPage: Don't output mw.loader.state "loading" and mw.loader.state "ready" for the same module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50038  normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle)
[08:35:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) OutputPage: Don't add <script> for load.php?modules=site&only=scripts if there is no site js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50037  normal->15enhancement;  +performance (10Krinkle)
[08:38:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) OutputPage: Don't add <script> for load.php?modules=site&only=scripts if there is no site js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50037  +comment (10krinklemail)
[08:45:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgNoFollowLinks = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  summary (10Krinkle)
[08:48:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgUseTwoButtonsSearchForm = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40622  summary (10Krinkle)
[08:49:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Krinkle)
[08:49:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgIncludeLegacyJavaScript = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33836  (10Krinkle)
[08:49:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgLegacyJavaScriptGlobals = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33837  (10Krinkle)
[08:49:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgNoFollowLinks = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Proposed changes to default settings (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50039  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgIncludeLegacyJavaScript = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33836  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgLegacyJavaScriptGlobals = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33837  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgNoFollowLinks = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42594  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Proposed changes to default settings (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50039  (10Krinkle)
[08:50:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgUseTwoButtonsSearchForm = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40622  (10Krinkle)
[08:52:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Set $wgWellFormedXml = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50040 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[08:52:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Proposed changes to default settings (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50039  (10Krinkle)
[09:05:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgWellFormedXml = false by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50040  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:12:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) ULS: Selector toggle for IME showing up in top/left corner of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50041 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; ()
[09:17:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Restore full text search/grepping on the whole repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49674  +comment (10Krinkle)
[09:19:55] <Flexo_>	 so I'm guessing nobody has a suggestion?
[09:20:34] <Flexo_>	 I've thought about getting stringfunctions enabled in order to remove the whitespace that's being returned, but it would be nice if I could just get the values returned from the hash table and nothing else; I don't know why it seems to have to return it padded with spaces or whatever
[09:27:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: External links are double encoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50042 major; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[09:32:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Crash in Chrome when attempting to cut certain content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50043 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[10:00:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) pass user group changes to $wgAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49641  +comment (10mati)
[10:04:32] <damo22>	 how do i put raw verbatim code with some of it a different colour, in a wiki?
[10:04:49] <damo22>	 i tried using html tags but then i cant use <pre>
[10:05:28] <damo22>	 i have strange characters that i want to highlight
[10:05:52] <damo22>	 ie, not html friendly
[10:06:23] <damo22>	 i need a way to escape the <pre> apply html colour and then resume the <pre>
[10:06:31] <damo22>	 ?
[10:07:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor broken in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50044 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[10:07:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing capitalisation of a link results in mangled wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49985  +comment (10esanders)
[10:13:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Gallery Extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50046 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; ()
[10:33:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor adds spaces before the colons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48570  +comment (10Elitre)
[10:44:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Dialog/flyout buttons cannot be activated with Tab key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50047 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[10:44:57] <rickyb98>	 gscaparotti?
[10:52:59] <rickyb98>	 è qui gscaparrotti?
[10:53:59] <rickyb98>	 !notify gscaparrotti
[10:53:59] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !MediaWiki:cachedspecial-viewing-cached-ts, !MediaWiki:cachedspecial-viewing-cached-ttl, !MediaWiki:markedaspatrollederrornotify, 
[10:55:07] <odder>	 rickyb98: it's an @
[10:55:34] <rickyb98>	 done, thx :)
[11:00:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikipedia is a piece of shit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50029  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[11:07:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Block user is broken on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49811  major->04CRIT (10Peter Bena)
[11:08:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install Echo on Sinhala Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50034   +shellpolicy; summary; +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[11:08:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) block Neehaali82 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50048 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikitech-interface; ()
[11:09:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) block Neehaali82 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50048  (10Peter Bena)
[11:09:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Block user is broken on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49811  (10Peter Bena)
[11:10:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10elitre82)
[11:11:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10elitre82)
[11:14:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10Elitre)
[11:18:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10elitre82)
[11:19:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide build status images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50022  +comment (10krinklemail)
[11:19:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Provide build status images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50022  summary (10Krinkle)
[11:20:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) html tag removal in edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830  +comment (10Merlijn van Deen)
[11:24:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor saves HTML instead of wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50049 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[11:25:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inline text style annotations with different attributes should not be merged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[11:28:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Provide build status images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50022  +comment (10krinklemail)
[11:28:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Inline text style annotations with different attributes should not be merged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50050 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[11:29:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Redundant closing tag removal in edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830  summary; +comment (10Merlijn van Deen)
[11:31:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Insecure image links on https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49984  summary (10Krinkle)
[11:32:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Invalid or non-matching tags should not be normalised in unchanged sections of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830  summary (10Krinkle)
[11:38:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and Deploy Wikicaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32695  +comment (10Nikola Smolenski)
[11:49:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) On File: pages redirect links should be linked "redirect=no" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50051 normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; ()
[12:17:19] <karima>	 Hi I test cucumber with the browser qa but I have a problem with the config in the file secret.yml ... "I have the message secret.yml file at /private/wmf/ or config/ is required for tests tagged @login" somebody can help me ? thanks
[12:36:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Write tests for expanding and collapsing all sidebar sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48449  +comment (10Tomislav Plavcic)
[12:40:23] <Dhaval>	 there is something broken on http://gu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[12:40:45] <Dhaval>	 as the link to talk (in bracket next to user's name) has disappaeared
[12:40:55] <Dhaval>	 can someone please help with that?
[12:41:09] <sDrewthedoff>	 let me have a look
[12:41:20] <Dhaval>	 thank you
[12:41:51] <sDrewthedoff>	 works for me
[12:41:59] <sDrewthedoff>	 (diff | hist) . . વિશ્વજ્ઞાનકોશ‎; 12:15 . . (-968)‎ . . ‎Dsvyas (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (જ્ઞાનકોશ પર દિશાનિર્દેશિત) [rollback]
[12:42:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) mediawiki.api.js tests fails with $wgDebugToolbar = true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50009  +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[12:42:22] <sDrewthedoff>	 have you hard refreshed?
[12:42:58] <Dhaval>	 did try, let me do it again
[12:43:31] <Dhaval>	 no luck, still shows .ચર્ચા:વિશ્વજ્ઞાનકોશ‎; ૧૩:૧૬ . . (+૨૦૭)‎ . . ‎Dsvyas ( | યોગદાન | પ્રતિબંધ)‎ [પાછું વાળો]
[12:44:22] <sDrewthedoff>	 let me change languages
[12:44:24] <Dhaval>	 and similarly, tab name for the user page has disappeared as well
[12:44:39] <Dhaval>	 oh good suggestion, let me change to english and see
[12:45:14] <Dhaval>	 yep, Gujarati has an issue I guess, as can see that in English
[12:45:26] <Dhaval>	 (diff | hist) . .ચર્ચા:વિશ્વજ્ઞાનકોશ‎; 13:16 . . (+207)‎ . . ‎Dsvyas (Talk | contribs | block)‎ [rollback]
[12:45:39] <sDrewthedoff>	 which could mean the new extension, or something in translatewiki
[12:46:12] <Dhaval>	 there has been no recent extension activated on gu.wiki
[12:46:29] <sDrewthedoff>	 you didn't get the new universallanguague thingy?
[12:46:36] <Dhaval>	 but this issue is only on gu.wiki, gu.wikisource shows the link to talk correctly, even in Gujarati
[12:47:01] <Dhaval>	 oh yes, that we got, but it was working since ULS activated
[12:47:16] <Dhaval>	 this issue is for only last 3-4 days
[12:47:34] <sDrewthedoff>	 so maybe check translation wiki, maybe the talk <-> conversion has been screwed
[12:48:00] <sDrewthedoff>	 have you tried it with ?uselang=qqx ?
[12:48:04] <Dhaval>	 if it were the case, same problem should be faced on gu.ws as well, shouldn't it?
[12:48:18] <sDrewthedoff>	 umm, presumably
[12:48:21] <Dhaval>	 no, haven't tried that
[12:48:33] <sDrewthedoff>	 you should be able to force it until there is a fix
[12:48:38] <Dhaval>	 do you know which mediawiki message displayes that?
[12:49:00] <Dhaval>	 sorry to be dumb, can you tell me how do I force it?
[12:49:02] <sDrewthedoff>	 qqx is what will show you
[12:49:18] <sDrewthedoff>	 url?uselang=qqx
[12:50:40] <Dhaval>	 cool
[12:51:48] <Dhaval>	 how to get it fixed?
[12:52:19] <Dhaval>	 we had come messages translated locally, so if I could know which messages in mediawiki namespace shows that text, I can check
[12:54:03] <sDrewthedoff>	 I would suggest that you force it temporarily, and get in a bugzilla in place
[12:54:21] <Dhaval>	 got it fixed,
[12:54:23] <sDrewthedoff>	 of course forcing it is going to screw it over for anyone but gu speakers
[12:54:33] <sDrewthedoff>	 but heck, we will just have to cope with it
[12:55:12] <Dhaval>	 Mediawiki:talkpagelinktext was blank since 2008, it never caused any problem, but suddenly  had this
[12:55:25] <Dhaval>	 I have deleted that message page, which fixed the issue
[12:56:06] <sDrewthedoff>	 kewl
[12:56:17] <sDrewthedoff>	 even better solution
[12:56:27] * sDrewthedoff  shrugs about how that happened

[12:57:02] <Dhaval>	 :)
[12:57:56] <Dhaval>	 but, Mediawiki:nstab-user doesn't exist locally, but still is not displayed on user page tab
[12:58:58] <sDrewthedoff>	 Dhaval: double check that there is not something in common.css or .js that is overrriding it
[12:59:32] <Dhaval>	 sDrewthedolf, yes, good point... let me check
[13:01:32] <sDrewthedoff>	 then check to see what you see in https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=allmessages   search for nstab-user
[13:03:40] <sDrewthedoff>	 in English, I see user page displayed at your user page
[13:05:32] <Dhaval>	 I can't see nstab-user at all on common.css or common.js
[13:07:47] <Dhaval>	 yes, in English it shows, but not in Gujarati
[13:07:59] <sDrewthedoff>	 https://gu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%AA%AE%E0%AB%80%E0%AA%A1%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%BE%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%BF:Nstab-user&action=history
[13:08:13] <sDrewthedoff>	 you blanked it too
[13:08:26] <sDrewthedoff>	 delete it
[13:08:57] <Dhaval>	 deleted
[13:09:22] <Dhaval>	 you are great, I didn't even think once that the page might exist with Capital N
[13:09:32] * sDrewthedoff  shines the bright light and asks what Dhaval was doing (drinking/smoking/experimenting with) on the night of 7 April 2008

[13:09:47] <Dhaval>	 but, why all of a suddent this was an issue? as you saw, pages were blanked back in 2008
[13:10:13] <sDrewthedoff>	 you are asking me to give you a rational explanation for anything wiki?
[13:10:21] <Dhaval>	 hahaha...
[13:10:22] <sDrewthedoff>	 now THAT is crazy
[13:10:54] <Dhaval>	 Thanks a million
[13:11:08] <sDrewthedoff>	 welcome, can I get to go three for three? ;-)
[13:12:40] <Dhaval>	 of course
[13:12:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel – view Properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44726  +comment (10Bene*)
[13:12:56] <Dhaval>	 :-)
[13:17:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:SpecialPages - structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44728  +comment (10Bene*)
[13:55:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: still altering lines the user hasn't touched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50052 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:02:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Site link $1:$2 already used by item $3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48224  +comment (10Bene*)
[14:03:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: still altering lines the user hasn't touched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50052  +comment (10okeyes)
[14:09:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: HTML comments are dropped from transclusion calls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49608  +comment (10Elitre)
[14:39:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) jstart doesn't signal out-of-memory kills to the user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50053 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[14:47:58] <rickyb98>	 !version
[14:47:59] <wm-bot>	 To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. Please note that 1.15.0 > 1.5.0 (since nobody wants to go to 2.0). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for supported versions.
[14:49:13] <rickyb98>	 guys, what is a legacy version?
[14:54:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Get rid of Ruby warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49867  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:54:05] <Vulpix>	 rickyb98: old versions still supported
[14:54:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) vagrant up: SSH command responded with a non-zero exit status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49944  +comment (10vogel)
[14:54:57] <Vulpix>	 supported with security bugfixes
[14:55:30] <sDrewthedoff>	 can anyone help me with abuse filter and added_links?
[14:55:32] <sDrewthedoff>	 (contains_any(added_links, "jimdo", "youtube", "scribd", "tumblr", "blogspot"))
[14:56:47] <sDrewthedoff>	 that fails for me, and my experience with contains_any is that it picks up fragments in added_lines
[14:57:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) On File: pages redirect links should be linked "redirect=no" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50051  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[14:57:41] <rickyb98>	 what's the script about? i mean, what do you want it to do?
[14:58:08] <sDrewthedoff>	 it is a tweak of a spam filter
[14:58:41] <sDrewthedoff>	 so just trying to keep an eye on spambots adding youtube spam
[14:59:13] <Vulpix>	 sDrewthedoff: it will fail if people post a URL without "http:", since that won't be an url and won't count as added_links
[14:59:19] <Vulpix>	 otherwise it should work
[14:59:34] <sDrewthedoff>	 they have http: in them
[15:00:04] <sDrewthedoff>	 and the only difference from other spam filter is that has added_links
[15:00:36] <Vulpix>	 I don't see why it should fail
[15:00:57] <sDrewthedoff>	 me neither
[15:01:01] <sDrewthedoff>	 clearly
[15:01:44] <Vulpix>	 another thing into consideration is that AF is case-sensity, so adding uppercase URLs would not match
[15:02:49] <sDrewthedoff>	 yep, spammers are well-behaved, they do properly formed urls
[15:02:52] <Vulpix>	 check any edit that hasn't matched the filter with the "examine" option to be sure that those urls are on added_links
[15:03:01] <Platonides>	 Vulpix, I think there's a lowercase function
[15:03:13] <Vulpix>	 indeed there is
[15:03:17] <sDrewthedoff>	 yep. lcase()
[15:03:22] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter/RulesFormat
[15:04:46] <sDrewthedoff>	 so the only thing that I am coming to is that contains_any and added_links don't play nicely
[15:05:59] <sDrewthedoff>	 hmm, examine says that it isn't even detecting added_links
[15:06:16] <sDrewthedoff>	 if anyone can see meta ... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/examine/log/18879
[15:06:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid eats wikitext tables inside image captions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49942  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:08:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Saving or closing the editing pane does not restore the default view of the article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49964  (10James Forrester)
[15:14:10] <sDrewthedoff>	 Vulpix: I have been pointed to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/67043/
[15:14:19] <sDrewthedoff>	 Allow filtering links and html for page creations
[15:15:07] <Vulpix>	 ah, they weren't working on page creation? weird
[15:15:17] <Vulpix>	 well, at least it has an explanation :)
[15:18:00] <sDrewthedoff>	 and it is meant to be out in wmf8
[15:18:13] <sDrewthedoff>	 out = code included
[15:19:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mis-nested annotations are cleaned up, leading to a dirty diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50052  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:19:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mis-nested annotations are cleaned up, leading to a dirty diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50052  (10James Forrester)
[15:20:03] <Moussekateer>	 Does anyone know of a script to clear up duplicate jobs in the job queue?
[15:20:47] <Platonides>	 Moussekateer, mediawiki itself will skip duplicate jobs
[15:21:24] <Moussekateer>	 That's what I've read but it doesn't seem like it is...
[15:21:30] <Moussekateer>	 Our job queue is exploding in size
[15:21:52] <Moussekateer>	 And I can see runjobs.php running the same job multiple times
[15:25:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Invalid or non-matching tags should not be normalised in unchanged sections of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48830  (10James Forrester)
[15:25:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mis-nested annotations are cleaned up, leading to a dirty diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50052  (10James Forrester)
[15:25:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inline text style annotations with different attributes should not be merged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50050  (10James Forrester)
[15:30:28] <rickyb98>	 Nemo_bis: poke!
[15:30:37] <rickyb98>	 Nemo_bis: it's urgent!!!
[15:31:16] <Vulpix>	 poke him with a big stone
[15:31:32] <rickyb98>	 eehh..
[15:31:34] <rickyb98>	 can you do that??
[15:32:09] <Vulpix>	 sadly, he's not near enough from me :(
[15:32:31] <Vulpix>	 === Nemo_bis: idle for 7 hours, 59 minutes, 27 seconds (on since dom 09 jun 2013 09:35:41 CEST)
[15:32:40] <rickyb98>	 NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
[15:32:41] <Vulpix>	 it seems he's a bit away right now
[15:32:46] <rickyb98>	 just a bit..
[15:32:47] <rickyb98>	 xD
[15:34:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inline text style annotations with different attributes should not be merged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50050  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:35:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Message echo-category-title-osm-instance-build-completed missing in Echo UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47306  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[15:36:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector surface doesn't pop up when the user language is right-to-left - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49416  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:37:01] <odder>	 I don't think he'll be back for a few hours
[15:38:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Message echo-category-title-osm-instance-build-completed missing in Echo UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47306  +comment (10krenair)
[15:43:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ctrl + C removes text (and cannot be undone through shortcut keys) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49816  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:45:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Instead of image broken link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50021  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:45:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Adding a file/media fails with wrong wikicode (Image insertion sets resource='undefined') - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49596  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:47:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Ctrl + C removes text (and cannot be undone through shortcut keys) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49816  +comment (10okeyes)
[15:50:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: HTML comments are dropped from transclusion calls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49608  +comment (10esanders)
[15:53:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[15:54:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  +comment (10esanders)
[15:56:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [IE9] "Add links" missing for pages with no language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49139  +comment (10edinwiki)
[15:56:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "Add links" link / "Language" section not visible on Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49243  +comment (10edinwiki)
[16:01:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Leading "<" in HTML comment dropped in template inside reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50055 major; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[16:01:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Leading "<" in HTML comment dropped in template inside reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50055  (10James Forrester)
[16:04:49] <Justin_ZW>	 Hello. Again.
[16:05:12] <Justin_ZW>	 So this time, I'm interested in learning why our ogg files are broken.
[16:05:20] <Justin_ZW>	 Let me find an example...
[16:05:45] <Justin_ZW>	 http://zeldawiki.org/File:Tarin7.ogg
[16:05:54] <Justin_ZW>	 Why is it giving permission denied?
[16:06:01] <Justin_ZW>	 What do I need to do to give it permission?
[16:08:39] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: it seems it has no permission to access /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[16:09:07] <Vulpix>	 or any part of it (maybe /usr/bin if your shared host has the binary files somewhere else)
[16:09:12] <Justin_ZW>	 ...yes, I can see this.
[16:09:27] <Justin_ZW>	 It isn't a shared host.
[16:09:31] <Justin_ZW>	 It's a dedicated web server.
[16:09:59] <Vulpix>	 check the appropiate permissions, then
[16:10:18] <Vulpix>	 it should be mode 755 
[16:10:22] <Justin_ZW>	 755 for /usr and for /usr/bin
[16:10:30] <Justin_ZW>	 I tried that already.
[16:10:33] <Justin_ZW>	 It didn't work.
[16:10:42] <Justin_ZW>	 I even set them to 777 temporarily.
[16:11:49] <Amgine>	 ls -aBCl /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[16:11:52] <Vulpix>	 ok, then the problem is not the ffmpeg binary, but some output file it's trying to generate
[16:12:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images not displayed in latest VE deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50008  +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:12:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images turned into mw:Placeholder in certain cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50035  +comment (10jforrester)
[16:13:27] <Justin_ZW>	 @Amgine: that outputs -rw-rw-r-- 1 zeldaw www-data 16892316 Feb  1 05:12 /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[16:14:58] <Vulpix>	 !e OggHandler
[16:14:58] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
[16:15:10] <Justin_ZW>	 We have that.
[16:15:12] <Amgine>	 bingo. Not executable Justin_Zw
[16:16:26] <Vulpix>	 o_O
[16:16:29] <Justin_ZW>	 Aha. Okay, that solved one problem
[16:16:33] <Justin_ZW>	 But now there's a new one.
[16:16:34] <Justin_ZW>	 http://zeldawiki.org/File:Tarin7.ogg
[16:16:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  summary (10Ed Sanders)
[16:16:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  (10Ed Sanders)
[16:17:11] <Vulpix>	 whoa, what a wall of text ;)
[16:17:41] <Justin_ZW>	 lol my point exactly.
[16:17:58] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: you need to be sure you have installed libs for theora and vorbis
[16:18:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  +comment (10esanders)
[16:18:31] <Kantaro>	 Hello, I would like to know if there is a way to install on a server a MediaWiki version with the templates, extensions... (everything which is helping to the layout) who are already installed on the MediaWiki version used by Wikipedia.
[16:19:09] <Amgine>	 Kantaro: not easily.
[16:19:11] <Justin_ZW>	 @Vulpix: where would I look for that?
[16:19:31] <Justin_ZW>	 It's a Linux server, if that helps.
[16:20:16] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: apt-get install libtheora
[16:20:51] <Vulpix>	 and apt-get install libvorbis (at least)
[16:21:07] <Kantaro>	 This in the aim of having a MediaWiki version who can be used without having to install one-by-one all the extensions and templates needed. 
[16:21:11] <Justin_ZW>	 It can't find those packages.
[16:21:24] <Kantaro>	 @Angine : even not easily, I will try.
[16:23:05] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: try appending "-bin" to each package name. (libtheora-bin, libvorbis-bin)
[16:23:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Right-click in IE10 causes deletion of the selected content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50045  normal->major (10James Forrester)
[16:23:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Right-click in IE10 causes deletion of the selected content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50045  (10James Forrester)
[16:23:52] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: or even try apt-get install ffmpeg2theora (as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916444 suggests)
[16:24:26] <Justin_ZW>	 Installing...
[16:24:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) ?status page is escaping "<" incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50056 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[16:26:24] <Justin_ZW>	 Neither one worked.
[16:28:43] <Justin_ZW>	 Any other ideas?
[16:29:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor saves HTML instead of wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50049  +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:29:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) New deployment of Parsoid leads to HTML insertion - needs deployed code reversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49577  +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:31:51] <Vulpix>	 Justin_ZW: oh, the last part of the error message mention theora mjpeg. Try installing libmjpegutils
[16:32:07] <Amgine>	 Kantaro: you can export the templates used in files when exporting from wikipedia via Special:Export. Then you will need to check each of *those* templates for missing templates. My experience is, including the template/doc articles, it takes about 5 iterations to completely import and update a series of templates.
[16:32:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [IE9] "Add links" missing for pages with no language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49139  +comment (10hoo)
[16:33:16] <Vulpix>	 Amgine: don't forget about scribunto ;)
[16:33:55] <Vulpix>	 Amgine: on that side, how can we see/export the code of scribunto modules?
[16:33:58] <Amgine>	 Kantaro: Oh, yes, definitely make sure you install scribunto *before* you start exporting.
[16:34:16] <Amgine>	 Vulpix: that has already been implemented in Special:Export.
[16:34:37] <Vulpix>	 oh, nice, I wasn't aware of that
[16:35:13] <Kantaro>	 ok, thanks
[16:35:22] <natbrown>	 Hi, Can I add few categories with one line of code? or should I always add [[category:....]] for every category?
[16:36:16] <Vulpix>	 natbrown: yes, you can add any categories you want on a single edit
[16:36:44] <Amgine>	 natbrown: you can add them all on one line, or on many lines (which is much easier to edit later.)
[16:37:11] <natbrown>	 How? [[category:..1|2|3.]]?
[16:37:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Broken layout of inspector menu, link inspector (others?) in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50057 minor; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[16:37:40] <natbrown>	 I don't want to repeat the word "category:"
[16:37:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Broken layout of inspector menu, link inspector (others?) in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50057  +comment (10jforrester)
[16:37:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Broken layout of inspector menu, link inspector (others?) in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50057  (10James Forrester)
[16:38:50] <natbrown>	 No, pipe don't work, it only adds the 1st category.
[16:39:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Proposed changes to default settings (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50039   +tracking; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[16:39:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  (10ssastry)
[16:39:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [IE9] "Add links" missing for pages with no language links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49139  +comment (10edinwiki)
[16:39:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Comments inside link labels not preserved correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50054  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:39:28] <Vulpix>	 natbrown: you need to repeat the whole category syntax: [[Category:1]] [[Category:2]] etc
[16:39:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10jforrester)
[16:40:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:40:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10jforrester)
[16:40:31] <natbrown>	 Vulpix: Thanks :( I am lazy :( Can't I do it any other shorter way?
[16:41:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Honey, I Shrunk The Save Dialogue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50058 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[16:41:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated templates rendering oddly and overlapping text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49925  +comment (10jforrester)
[16:41:21] <Vulpix>	 nope, but maybe you can request a simple-wikitext language, seeing there's even a "simple-english"...
[16:44:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Honey, I Shrunk The Save Dialogue (in Monobook) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50058  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:46:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialog/flyout buttons cannot be activated with Tab key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50047  (10James Forrester)
[16:46:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: New images get a link=… set whether or not they need it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49844  (10ssastry)
[16:50:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Crash in Chrome when attempting to cut certain content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50043  normal->major; +comment (10James Forrester)
[16:50:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images turned into mw:Placeholder in certain cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50035  (10ssastry)
[16:51:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: Work around broken thumbnail image dimensions in API response for ogg file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49896  (10ssastry)
[16:52:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: wikitext tables inside image captions are lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49942  (10ssastry)
[16:53:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor broken in IE10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50044  (10James Forrester)
[16:53:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images which have no size specified default to width=200? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43336  (10ssastry)
[16:53:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: External links are double encoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50042  (10James Forrester)
[16:54:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rename internal use of "Reference list" to "References list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49923  (10James Forrester)
[16:54:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Refactor dialog to not need hardcoded padding for each subclass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49924  (10James Forrester)
[16:54:52] <Amgine>	 natbrown: You might consider using the HotCat gadget on your wiki.
[16:58:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking outside the "Describe what you changed" box locks it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49927  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[16:59:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking outside the "Describe what you changed" box locks it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49927  (10James Forrester)
[17:02:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add FlaggedRevs "accept pending revisions" to save dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49699  (10James Forrester)
[17:04:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cannot reposition typing cursor using the mouse in edit summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50014  +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:05:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor shows empty "content" sections for newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49866  normal->15enhancement (10James Forrester)
[17:07:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid should have template parameter key/value whitespace of " = " not "=" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49901  +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:09:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Metadata not preserved in references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50059 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[17:09:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting a line break causes strange results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48796  +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:10:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Multiple empty lines turn into uneditable elements due to mwPlaceholder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48844  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:13:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-Paste of paragraphs seems broken in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48960  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:14:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't copy/paste a reference unless you select text either side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49396  (10James Forrester)
[17:15:22] <natbrown>	 Amgine:Thank you :) I'll try to use it!
[17:15:45] <Amgine>	 yw
[17:15:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dropdown text style menu overlaps with other interface elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49524  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:24:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Metadata not preserved in references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50059  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:27:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing heading level removes newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49428  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:27:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Metadata not preserved in references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50059  (10James Forrester)
[17:52:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Metadata is not annotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50060 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[17:53:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Metadata is not annotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50060  (10James Forrester)
[17:55:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Metadata is not annotated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50060  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:59:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Nearby: Fallback to GeoIP-based location info on browser Geo-location API failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50005  +comment (10jrobson)
[18:07:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) wbgetclaims gives empty result, when filtered for property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50061 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:08:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) about to lose ability to log to Identi.ca and Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10greg)
[18:09:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) wbgetclaims does not need a baserevid param - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50062 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:12:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Undo operations in the Wikibase API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46352  +comment (10db)
[18:13:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) efSchemaValidate() doesn't validate against allowed enum values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49096  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:14:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) revisions need to be scrubbed from the English Wikipedia database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50031  +comment (10db)
[18:18:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) revisions need to be scrubbed from the English Wikipedia database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50031  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[18:19:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Nearby: Fallback to GeoIP-based location info on browser Geo-location API failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50005  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[18:25:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove deleted wiki's entries from global tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49858  +comment (10db)
[18:27:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Provide build status images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50022  +comment (10hashar)
[18:30:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) install this extension at en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50063 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; ()
[18:31:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove deleted wiki's entries from global tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49858  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[18:34:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove deleted wiki's entries from global tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49858  +comment (10b)
[18:35:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) install this thanks extension at en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50064 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Thanks; ()
[18:38:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) install this thanks extension at en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50064  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:38:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) install wikilove extension at en.wikivoyage.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50063  normal->15enhancement; summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:48:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) GettingStartedNavbar logs events with null action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50065 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; ()
[18:54:05] <Betacommand>	 !image
[18:54:05] <wm-bot>	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: imageauth, imagelink, imagemagic, imagemap, images, 
[18:54:12] <Betacommand>	 !images
[18:54:13] <wm-bot>	 For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images>. For more technical details about image uploads, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads>. Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads).
[19:03:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid 500 error on some articles. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50015  +comment (10jforrester)
[19:05:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Automatic Section Titles in edit summaries doesn't Substitute Templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43914  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[19:05:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Editpage: Add an option that enables subst+int for edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34266  summary (10MZMcBride)
[19:06:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) edit auto summary not substituted in email notification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43044   +easy (10MZMcBride)
[19:09:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a get-me-into-the-wikitext-editor link on every header inside the VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49665  summary (10James Forrester)
[19:10:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) subst templates are not properly handled in talkpage notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48044  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[19:10:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor before first character of heading and hitting Enter advances cursor one position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48847  summary (10James Forrester)
[19:11:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Editpage: Add an option that enables subst+int for edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34266  +comment (10b)
[19:11:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Automatic Section Titles in edit summaries doesn't Substitute Templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43914  +comment (10b)
[19:14:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Mass of extraneous quot and amp marks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49522  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:17:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Warn users that wikicode doesn't work and they shouldn't insert it when it looks like they're doing so - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49820  summary (10James Forrester)
[19:18:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: automagically convert wikitext (e.g. [[link]]) to VE-compatible elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49686  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:20:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Caption of a thumb image starting with a link means link inspector icon appears in slug, confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49680  normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester)
[19:22:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Unexpected padding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49683  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[19:23:07] <Betacommand>	 question about file hotlinking, is it possible to re-adjust the image size when the file is rendered?
[19:23:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: visual representation of template breaks on 'apply changes' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49730  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:23:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-rendered transclusion of blocks comes back as wikitext, not HTML (eww) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49854  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:24:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Leading whitespace in transclusion invocation target does not round trip in parsoid.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49782  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:25:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Leading "<" in HTML comment dropped in template inside reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50055  summary (10Ed Sanders)
[19:26:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Capitalisation does not register as a change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49495  +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:26:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Leading "<" in HTML comment dropped in template inside reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50055  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[19:28:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: automagically convert wikitext (e.g. [[link]]) to VE-compatible elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49686  +comment (10b)
[19:30:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: No way to identify destination, rather than link text, of links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49928  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:32:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: automagically convert wikitext (e.g. [[link]]) to VE-compatible elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49686  +comment (10jforrester)
[19:34:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace-indented paragraphs become preformatted text on saving, rather than <p>s with <nowiki>'ed whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49929  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:35:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: automagically convert wikitext (e.g. [[link]]) to VE-compatible elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49686  +comment (10b)
[19:35:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images, when resized, appear on top of (rather than underneath) other UI elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49767  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:35:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: automagically convert wikitext (e.g. [[link]]) to VE-compatible elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49686  +comment (10jforrester)
[19:36:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing heading level removes newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49428  +comment (10esanders)
[19:40:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image corruption edits - garbled text inserted into image description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49807  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:41:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing heading level removes newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49428  +comment (10esanders)
[19:43:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Default whitespace for headings should have two new lines beforehand (i.e., one blank line before a heading) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49428  normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:47:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid 500 error on some articles. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50015  (10ssastry)
[19:48:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid 500 error on some articles. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50015  (10ssastry)
[19:51:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace-indented paragraphs become preformatted text on saving, rather than <p>s with <nowiki>'ed whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49929  +comment (10esanders)
[19:51:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Proposal for new special page listing concepts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33181  +comment (10[[kgh]])
[19:55:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Paragraphs with leading whitespace other than one space become preformatted text on saving, rather than <nowiki>'ed whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49929  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:59:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Spaces added before colons and links in some cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48570  normal->major; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[19:59:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Leading "<" in HTML comment dropped in template inside reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50055  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:04:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Thumbnailed images without descriptions get pipes added on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50012  +comment (10James Forrester)
[20:05:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link duplicated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49682  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[20:06:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link corruption oddity in production on links (Parsoid issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48769  +comment (10James Forrester)
[20:26:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Paragraphs with leading whitespace other than one space become preformatted text on saving, rather than <nowiki>'ed whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49929  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:32:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Relative internal wiki links show the wikitext rather than their traditional label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48081  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:43:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:Nearby: Fallback to GeoIP-based location info on browser Geo-location API failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50005  +comment (10jrobson)
[20:47:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) I've renamed (moved) a page but the ! still remains in the old one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49055  +comment (10andyrom75)
[21:36:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Disable WebFonts in Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47183  +comment (10Meno25)
[21:37:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) about to lose ability to log to Identi.ca and Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10rlane32)
[21:38:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Block user is broken on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49811  +comment (10rlane32)
[21:44:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) I've renamed (moved) a page but the ! still remains in the old one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49055  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[21:47:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Triple-click to select block level element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38011  (10Ed Sanders)
[21:50:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Triple-click to select block level element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38011  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:55:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Triple-click to select block level element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38011  +comment (10esanders)
[21:59:46] <G-Flex>	 I'm having a problem with templates returning results that are padded with whitespace
[21:59:50] <G-Flex>	 (the whitespace is causing problems)
[22:01:19] <G-Flex>	 not quite sure what to do, the {{trim}} template that wikipedia uses isn't working
[22:07:49] <ori-l>	 G-Flex: do you have an example up somewhere?
[22:09:54] <G-Flex>	 ori-l: one sec, I'll pastebin something
[22:09:58] <G-Flex>	 I'm using the hashtables extension btw
[22:10:14] <G-Flex>	 the idea is, I have a hashtables that's a list of RGB colors identified by name so I can use them in text
[22:10:26] <G-Flex>	 but style tags don't like trailing spaces, and I'm getting those
[22:11:10] <ori-l>	 is this on a wikimedia wiki or somewhere else?
[22:11:23] <G-Flex>	 http://pastebin.com/eGMcygFb
[22:11:35] <G-Flex>	 it's another wiki, running mediawiki
[22:11:47] <G-Flex>	 (it's private so I can't link you directly, sorry)
[22:12:26] <ori-l>	 have you tried https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Strip_whitespace ?
[22:12:37] <G-Flex>	 {{color |heliotrope}} should return "rgb(223,115,255)" as far as I can tell, but it seems to return "rgb(223,115,255) "
[22:12:39] <G-Flex>	 as an example
[22:12:44] <G-Flex>	 I've tried {{trim}}
[22:12:46] <G-Flex>	 but not that one yet
[22:13:00] <G-Flex>	 {{trim}} works if I use it on the output of the template, sorta, but it's... clunky
[22:13:18] <ori-l>	 is scribunto an option?
[22:13:20] <G-Flex>	 like, I can't seem to get the template itself to return a sane whitespace-stripped value
[22:13:52] <G-Flex>	 I don't know, I'm not the one running the wiki, but that seems overkill for what should be extremely simple.
[22:14:01] <G-Flex>	 do templates normally return results padded with whitespace, or what?
[22:14:30] <ori-l>	 i have no idea, tbh. i don't use templates much. it'd be overkill to install scribunto just for this purpose, but it wouldn't be overkill to use it if it is installed already
[22:15:01] <G-Flex>	 the thing is, wherever I use {{color}} I could just do something like {{trim|{{color|COLOR_NAME}}}}
[22:15:05] <ori-l>	 i'll experiment with the code you pastebin'd; just a sec
[22:15:27] <G-Flex>	 yet if {{trim}} works on the output, I'm not sure why it wouldn't work within the template itself.
[22:15:35] <G-Flex>	 I mean, {{trim}} itself is a tempalte
[22:15:37] <G-Flex>	 template*
[22:16:31] <G-Flex>	 like, if I do this in the color template:
[22:16:33] <G-Flex>	 <includeonly>{{trim|{{#hashvalue:color |{{{1}}} |rgb(0,0,0)}}}}</includeonly>
[22:16:40] <G-Flex>	 for some reason, that still doesn't work
[22:16:50] <G-Flex>	 it still gives me an extra space and it still doesn't work in style tags
[22:17:27] <G-Flex>	 this seems like it shouldn't really be an issue :/
[22:17:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Review link inspector's behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48789  summary (10James Forrester)
[22:31:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace characters should not take a pre-annotation unless they have non-whitespace after them in the annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48933  normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[22:45:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Honey, I Shrunk The Save Dialogue (in Monobook) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50058  +comment (10krinklemail)
[22:47:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Page contents replaced 'undefined' (because of an edit conflict?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49737  +comment (10James Forrester)
[23:05:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Preserve ordering inside data-mw elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50066 major; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[23:05:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve ordering inside data-mw elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50066  (10James Forrester)
[23:13:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve ordering inside data-mw elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50066  (10Roan Kattouw)
[23:15:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: If a sanity check doesn't work out, force the user to do a wikitext diff before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50067  (10James Forrester)
[23:25:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: If a sanity check doesn't work out, force the user to do a wikitext diff before saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50067  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:46:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking "Review and Save" fails to bring up diff, unable to complete edit (IE9) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49187  +comment (10krinklemail)
[23:47:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clicking "Review and Save" fails to bring up diff, unable to complete edit (IE9) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49187  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:56:11] <Wikinaut>	 I noticed a problem in Database:delete( ... $conds ). Documentation says that $conds maybe string|array, but when string is given, it is treated with makeListe( ..., LIST_AND) -- instead treated as database statement.
[23:56:30] <Wikinaut>	 lines 2714 seq.:
[23:56:36] <Wikinaut>	 		if ( $conds != '*' ) {
[23:56:38] <Wikinaut>	 			$sql .= ' WHERE ' . $this->makeList( $conds, LIST_AND );
[23:56:39] <Wikinaut>	 		}
[23:56:57] <Wikinaut>	 should be tested for string or array before makeList is applied !