[00:00:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make Nearby on Commons search NS_FILE namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50133  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:01:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ArticleFeedback extension from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49976  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[00:03:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make Nearby on Commons search NS_FILE namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50133  +comment (10jrobson)
[00:04:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: clicking on a template in the reference inspector causes odd blue shadowing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50074  +comment (10Rob Moen)
[00:04:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Top left corner of the window shows blue rectangle when selecting templates in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49818  +comment (10Rob Moen)
[00:04:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Top left corner of the window shows blue rectangle when selecting templates in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49818  +comment (10Rob Moen)
[00:04:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Zoom is triggered when focusing inputs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49771  (10Jon)
[00:09:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Typing characters for search is laggy on Android ICS browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49747  summary; +comment (10Jon)
[00:13:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid gives VisualEditor insecure content when using HTTPS (should use protocol-relative URLs) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43015  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:20:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid gives VisualEditor insecure content when using HTTPS (should use protocol-relative URLs) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43015  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:20:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid gives VisualEditor insecure content when using HTTPS (should use protocol-relative URLs) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43015  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:23:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) EventLogging on the beta cluster should work well and match production (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49723  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[00:24:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Images: Frameless images should not emit the "caption" as a <figcaption> even when it's set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50142 minor; Parsoid: JS/General; ()
[00:28:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Uses of enwiki's {{Plain image with caption}} cause alt text to be displayed as a caption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50113  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:37:56] <Kolega2357>	 Please help me, MediaWiki will not send emails i use Xampp for MediaWiki.
[00:40:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dirty DOM on transclusions in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroplast?veaction=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  +comment (10gwicke)
[00:40:25] <PinkAmpersand>	 oooh, we passed 50k bugs!
[00:41:37] <PinkAmpersand>	 Kolega2357: hi.
[00:50:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Missing root git config file when cloning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50143 normal; Tools: MediaWiki-Vagrant; ()
[00:54:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: Frameless images should not emit the "caption" as a <figcaption> even when it's set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50142  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:00:06] <PinkAmpersand>	 !ops someone please fix the topic, and trout kolega for breaking it
[01:00:21] <QueenOfFrance>	 lol
[01:00:46] <QueenOfFrance>	 PinkAmpersand: it's not +t tho ;-)
[01:00:58] <PinkAmpersand>	 oh, you mean anyone can set it?
[01:02:11] <QueenOfFrance>	 yup
[01:02:21] <QueenOfFrance>	 which is how kolega came to break it
[01:02:30] <QueenOfFrance>	 We surely wouldn't be giving Velimir Ivanovic op rights in here :P
[01:02:33] <PinkAmpersand>	 ah. was wondering how a cross-wiki troll would get op access in here
[01:02:57] <PinkAmpersand>	 well, how do i track down the old topic? :P
[01:03:11] <QueenOfFrance>	 I have an irssi plugin to do that normally
[01:03:20] <QueenOfFrance>	 but I can't seem to find it
[01:03:40] <FastLizard4>	 I'll do it, hold on
[01:03:50] <QueenOfFrance>	 I'll dig up the logs otherwise
[01:03:52] <QueenOfFrance>	 but I'm lazy
[01:04:23] <PinkAmpersand>	 you'd think there'd be a CS command for that. list the last 5 topics or something
[01:04:44] <QueenOfFrance>	 oh found it
[01:05:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unable to mark certain articles as patrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50023  (10jkitchen1994)
[01:05:49] <FastLizard4>	 o_o
[01:06:00] <QueenOfFrance>	 lol
[01:06:04] <QueenOfFrance>	 within a second of each other
[01:06:08] <FastLizard4>	 :P
[01:06:25] * FastLizard4  high-fives QueenOfFrance

[01:06:57] <QueenOfFrance>	 heh, amusingly, I just didn't know what my topic history plugin was
[01:07:03] <QueenOfFrance>	 all I needed to to was /topics 3 :D
[01:10:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nowiki-ing inside templates' parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50070  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[01:12:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dirty DOM on transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:12:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusions not properly round-tripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:15:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  (10Jacob)
[01:16:49] <PinkAmpersand>	 trouted, btw. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kolega2357#Ahem
[01:17:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Broken wikitext escaping for list in transclusion parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50144 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[01:18:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Broken wikitext escaping for list in transclusion parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50144  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:18:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Broken wikitext escaping for list in transclusion parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50144  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:19:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusions not properly round-tripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  +comment (10gwicke)
[01:26:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) EventLogging on the beta cluster should work well and match production (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49723  +comment (10arichards)
[01:27:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Footnotes containing templates are not exported in PDF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50090  normal->major; +comment (10This, that and the other)
[01:29:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) $wgMFLogEvents = false causes problems with EventLogging dependencies are present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50145 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[01:29:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) EventLogging on the beta cluster should work well and match production (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49723  +comment (10arichards)
[01:33:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) $wgMFLogEvents = false causes problems with EventLogging dependencies are present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50145  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[01:36:28] <TinFoil>	 Hi, I have a mostly aesthetic question about changing the Recent Changes page.
[01:37:38] <Jasper_Deng>	 most aspects of the interface can be customized using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface_messages
[01:37:54] <TinFoil>	 As an administrator of a small-ish wiki getting pretty inundated with spam, how do I hide user creation, page deletion, and/or blocks from the recent changes pag?
[01:37:54] <TinFoil>	 e
[01:38:39] <TinFoil>	 I see that Wikipedia's hiding user creation, at least, but I can't find anything about how to do that myself.
[01:40:29] <Elsie>	 Wikipedia doesn't hide user creation.
[01:41:13] <TinFoil>	 It hides user creation on the recent changes page is what I meant to say.
[01:41:47] <Elsie>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=5000
[01:41:55] <Elsie>	 You should see some "user creation log" entries there.
[01:42:33] <TinFoil>	 oh, that's dumb of me.
[01:42:38] <TinFoil>	 I just didn't scroll.
[01:42:41] <Elsie>	 !spam
[01:42:41] <wm-bot>	 For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features>.
[01:43:04] <TinFoil>	 I'm getting multilingual spam, so it's just all sorts of fun
[01:43:19] <Elsie>	 Is it an English-only wiki?
[01:43:36] <Elsie>	 Identifiable spam is a good thing.
[01:43:37] <DanielFriesen>	 More like enwp's RC is just so massive you don't notice things like those log entries.
[01:43:58] <Elsie>	 8=========D
[01:44:48] <TinFoil>	 it's a wiki that hosts translations of literature from Asian languages to English and romance languages, so slinging regex doesn't work well.
[01:45:00] <Elsie>	 Heh.
[01:45:12] <Elsie>	 You can add a CAPTCHA.
[01:45:17] <Elsie>	 For certain kinds of editors.
[01:45:49] <TinFoil>	 I've tried reCAPTCHA, math, and custom questions, but none of them really work.
[01:46:15] <TinFoil>	 The most effective thing I have going is Bad Behavior, which prevents most but not all spam.
[01:47:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Thumbnailed images without descriptions get pipes added on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50012  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:50:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: sizing of footnote tags (e.g. [12]) inconsistent. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50095  +comment (10okeyes)
[01:54:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Indentation toolbar buttons should not be enabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50141  (10James Forrester)
[01:58:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860  +comment (10b)
[01:58:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Unexpected bolding /introduced/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50146 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[01:59:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) <nowiki> tags added to (valid) list in a template parameter, corrupting them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50147 normal; Parsoid: JS/serializer; ()
[01:59:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <nowiki> tags added to (valid) list in a template parameter, corrupting them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50147  (10James Forrester)
[01:59:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nowiki-ing inside templates' parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50070  (10James Forrester)
[02:00:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nowiki-ing inside templates' parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50070  +comment (10jforrester)
[02:06:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unexpected bolding /introduced/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50146  (10James Forrester)
[02:08:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10b)
[02:13:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Echo should not fire mention notifications when the edit is made by a bot. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50148 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[02:23:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusions not properly round-tripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[02:23:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nowiki-ing inside templates' parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50070  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[02:24:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <nowiki> tags added to (valid) list in a template parameter, corrupting them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50147  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[02:24:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Broken wikitext escaping for list in transclusion parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50144  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[02:37:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555  -easy  (10Krinkle)
[02:38:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusions not properly round-tripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50129  +comment (10James Forrester)
[02:38:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nowiki-ing inside templates' parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50070  +comment (10James Forrester)
[02:48:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) editing lead section leads to character cut off in later section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50149 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[02:51:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) editing lead section leads to character cut off in later section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50149  +comment (10brassratgirl)
[03:01:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Editing leads to some characters (of wikitext) cut off in later section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50149  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[03:04:04] <banica>	 hei guys. i want to be able to edit my mediawiki from word or openoffice (2 ways)
[03:04:08] <banica>	 how i can do this?
[03:04:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "Use the wikitext editor for editing sections while VisualEditor is in beta" should be default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49621  +comment (10phoebe)
[03:04:39] <banica>	 i know there are some extensions but i don't want to check all to see which one is the best one
[03:04:42] <banica>	 :)
[03:14:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Editing leads to some characters (of wikitext) cut off in later section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50149  +comment (10brassratgirl)
[03:29:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) By renaming a Lua module the related subpages should be renamed as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50150 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; ()
[03:37:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) $wgMFLogEvents = false causes problems with EventLogging dependencies are present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50145  +comment (10jrobson)
[03:43:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) By renaming a Lua module the related subpages should be renamed as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50150  +comment (10vasilvv)
[03:53:22] <Steven_Zhang>	 harej: you around?
[03:53:27] <harej>	 I am
[03:53:46] <Steven_Zhang>	 Can I get a hand with something?
[03:54:09] <Steven_Zhang>	 The Wikimedia DC homepage layout looks really good and I am trying to use something similar on Wikimedia Australia's site
[03:54:14] <Steven_Zhang>	 but it's not working
[03:55:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create mailing list for kowiki administrators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48770  +comment (10cdpark)
[03:57:18] <Steven_Zhang>	 I was hoping you could take a look...
[04:03:44] <Amgine>	 <wonders when Harej last spoke in this channel>
[04:03:58] <Amgine>	 <clearly has too much time on hands>
[04:04:09] <ori-l>	 Amgine: about ten minutes ago :)
[04:04:53] <Amgine>	 <laughs>
[04:04:59] <harej>	 I wonder if Steven Zheng is referring to the one Wikimedia DC currently uses (http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Home) or the one that's slated to replace it (http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/User:James_Hare/Main_Page_redesign)
[04:07:27] <Amgine>	 Steven_Zhang: ^
[04:07:39] <harej>	 He disconnected.
[04:07:57] <Amgine>	 picky picky picky.
[04:09:19] <Amgine>	 Also, Composer is breaking my mind. I should probably leave it alone.
[04:30:30] <banica>	 hei guys. how i can edit directly from word or openoffice in mediawiki?
[04:31:47] <Elsie>	 !externaleditor
[04:31:47] <wm-bot>	 MediaWiki allows editing with external tools by sending control files when you request to edit. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors>. Browsers not configured properly may ask you to download those files so you're unable to edit with "action=edit" only. To avoid it, go to your preferences and set it as a non-default edit action: Preferences ? Editing ? "Use external editor by default".
[04:32:05] <Elsie>	 I'm not sure you'd use Word...
[04:32:17] <Elsie>	 You really want a text editor, not a document editor.
[04:32:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Write redirect rules for GitBlit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41961  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[04:43:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[04:48:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Editing edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50137  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[04:53:02] <banica>	 what is the best way to edit a mediawiki page for a non technical person?
[04:54:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) <ref /> converted to <ref></ref> in some circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50151 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[04:54:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <ref /> converted to <ref></ref> in some circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50151  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[05:03:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) 404 for Gitblit's "Tree > HEAD" in operations/puppet repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50152 minor; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[05:30:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please create a component for PageImages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50139  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[05:30:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AbuseFilter's "length" is wrong: 31 characters have length 1? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50107  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[05:30:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MySQL database updates do not enclose field names in back ticks(`) causing fields to be dropped with reserved words. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50114  (10Andre Klapper)
[05:31:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[Category:Pages with broken file links]] (message: broken-file-category) not added if the offending link is inside a <gallery/> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50119  (10Andre Klapper)
[05:31:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Hook functions should not be required to return a value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50134  (10Andre Klapper)
[05:53:56] <rickyb98>	 hello :) i need to download an extension.. should i download the master? im using 1.22wmf8..
[05:54:41] <ori-l>	 which extension?
[05:54:47] <rickyb98>	 AbuseFilter and AntiSpoof
[05:54:55] <rickyb98>	 and others also after..
[05:57:44] <ori-l>	 rickyb98: that's the commit hash of each extension that is deployed on wikimedia wikis running the 1.22wmf8 branch: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/6bbaecfc2c142a7ca07af50e741afcd68821b611/.gitmodules
[05:57:59] <ori-l>	 here's the, rather
[05:58:14] <ori-l>	 wait, no
[05:58:45] <ori-l>	 here's the correct link: https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/6bbaecfc2c142a7ca07af50e741afcd68821b611/extensions
[05:59:10] <rickyb98>	 this one for example
[05:59:11] <rickyb98>	 AbuseFilter @ 6bddc7c
[05:59:16] <rickyb98>	 how do i get it?
[05:59:38] <ori-l>	 first, you need to clone the git repository
[05:59:49] <rickyb98>	 via terminal, right?
[06:00:03] <ori-l>	 yes. run "git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter"
[06:00:23] <ori-l>	 you should be in the extensions subfolder of your mediawiki install
[06:00:45] <rickyb98>	 ok, cloned
[06:00:55] <rickyb98>	 thank you! done :)
[06:01:03] <rickyb98>	 now for all the extensions
[06:01:07] <rickyb98>	 i have to do
[06:01:24] <rickyb98>	 git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions/extensionname
[06:01:27] <rickyb98>	 right?
[06:01:38] <ori-l>	 how did you get the 1.22wmf8 branch?
[06:01:51] <rickyb98>	 brb, i'll send you the link..
[06:02:04] <rickyb98>	 https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/mwSnapshots/#!/mediawiki-core/wmf/1.22wmf8
[06:02:13] <ori-l>	 if you're running the deployment branch, a simpler thing to do might be to simply "git submodule update --init --recursive extensions/ExtensionName"
[06:02:24] <ori-l>	 from the root mediawiki folder
[06:02:33] <rickyb98>	 i can't
[06:02:38] <rickyb98>	 i don't have shell access.
[06:03:08] <ori-l>	 oh, so you ran 'git clone' on your computer and you're going to upload the files via FTP or whatever?
[06:03:24] <rickyb98>	 yes
[06:03:25] <rickyb98>	 right
[06:03:33] <ori-l>	 well, there's an extra step, then
[06:03:45] <rickyb98>	 which one?
[06:04:17] <ori-l>	 when you ran 'git clone https://...' , you got a copy of the repository at HEAD
[06:04:41] <ori-l>	 if you want the exact state of the code that we are running, you need to 'cd AbuseFilter' to go into the git repository
[06:04:49] <ori-l>	 and then 'git checkout 6bddc7c'
[06:05:07] <rickyb98>	 what do you mean with "exact state"?
[06:05:50] <ori-l>	 you can think of the short hash (the '6bddc7c' thing) as a version identifier that is changed whenever any file is changed in the source tree
[06:06:27] <ori-l>	 if someone makes a change to AbuseFilter, that change is not automatically live on Wikimedia wikis
[06:06:39] <rickyb98>	 oh..
[06:06:44] <ori-l>	 rather, we are running some specific version, which we update from time to time
[06:06:44] <rickyb98>	 okay.
[06:07:00] <ori-l>	 the strings in the link I sent you earlier tell you which specific version we are running
[06:07:08] <rickyb98>	 well, i need the version to be the same as the MediaWiki website is running..
[06:07:30] <ori-l>	 you don't *need* to; it's possible that HEAD is actually better (fixes some bug, or whatever), but it's the safest bet
[06:07:52] <rickyb98>	 how often should i update an extension?
[06:09:02] <ori-l>	 it's hard for me to say, since I've never administered a wiki outside of wikimedia.
[06:09:35] <ori-l>	 http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Main_Page is a useful resource for that, I think
[06:09:40] <ori-l>	 it tells you what other people are running
[06:10:00] <rickyb98>	 cool!
[06:10:03] <rickyb98>	 thanks :)
[06:10:24] <ori-l>	 sure.
[06:12:30] <rickyb98>	 ok, gonna have breakfast and i'll be back :)
[06:19:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) rebuildall uses wgDBuser (instead of wgDBadminuser), can fail with MySQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50025  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[06:19:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) rebuildall uses wgDBuser (instead of wgDBadminuser), can fail with MySQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50025  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[06:28:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Fatal on Special:Contributions: Invalid or virtual namespace -1 given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50153 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[06:28:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480  (10Nemo)
[06:33:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154 major; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; ()
[06:33:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  (10Tpt)
[06:37:41] <kaggrrwal>	 hii
[06:38:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) #ask queries return errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[06:49:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10vssun9)
[06:51:08] <rickyb98>	 hi kaggrrwal :)
[06:52:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[07:02:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860  +comment (10federicoleva)
[07:02:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) #ask queries return errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  +comment (10larchenkov.va)
[07:03:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Indentation toolbar buttons should not be enabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50141  +comment (10krinklemail)
[07:11:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Enable Import pages on ml.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50156 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[07:25:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Dirty diffs due to removing whitespaces from empty template fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50157 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[07:39:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Deleting a translation page doesn't update the language bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43042  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:41:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable Import pages on ml.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50156  normal->15enhancement;  +shellpolicy; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[07:43:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Image dialog shows thumbnails twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[07:44:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image dialog shows thumbnails twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[07:47:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image insertion dialog shows thumbnails twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158  summary (10Raimond Spekking)
[07:50:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Unable to click on the image/caption dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50159 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[07:59:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SMW + 4store: SMWSparqlDatabaseError / Malformed query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43708  +comment (10Renaud Richardet)
[08:00:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable Import pages on ml.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50156  +comment (10manojkmohanme03107)
[08:12:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Insert Link Dialog should warn if a disambiguation page is linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50160 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; ()
[08:25:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Gerrit mangles Wikipedia permalinks with anchor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45780  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[08:26:54] <banica>	 how i can see all templates used on a mediawiki instance?
[08:26:59] <banica>	 !templates
[08:26:59] <wm-bot>	 For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. See also: !templateproblems , !wptemplates
[08:30:00] <ori-l>	 banica: go to Special:Prefixindex, select Namespace: 'Template', and leave 'Display pages with prefix:' blank
[08:31:29] <banica>	 great! thanks a lot
[08:34:42] <YuviPanda>	 jesus, i'm boiling in here.
[08:34:49] * YuviPanda  tries to find somewhere else to go

[08:34:59] <banica>	 you are so "hot" :)
[08:35:17] <YuviPanda>	 this place has asbestos roofing and it's 110F
[08:35:27] <YuviPanda>	 and no, no air conditioning.
[08:35:37] <YuviPanda>	 i can't touch my laptop, it is burning
[08:35:39] <YuviPanda>	 from the heat
[08:36:05] <rickyb98>	 is there a telnet command to remove all empty folders?
[08:36:11] <rickyb98>	 or at least to view them?
[08:36:18] <rickyb98>	 (only empty ones)
[08:36:38] <ori-l>	 find . -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \; 
[08:36:57] <rickyb98>	 from telnet?
[08:37:04] <rickyb98>	 "find" also?
[08:37:17] <kondi>	 YuviPanda: Chennai?
[08:37:36] <ori-l>	 i am guessing that by 'from telnet' you mean 'in a login shell, via ssh'
[08:37:58] <rickyb98>	 not really..
[08:41:08] <rickyb98>	 that command doesn't work..
[08:41:11] <rickyb98>	 it's telnet..
[08:41:13] <rickyb98>	 not shs
[08:41:15] <rickyb98>	 ssh
[08:43:06] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: 'telnet' is just a protocol that describes how characters are transferred between the server and you - just like ssh. It doesn't tell you anything about the shell. What are you logging in to?
[08:43:28] <rickyb98>	 i'm from my local pc
[08:43:29] <rickyb98>	 and
[08:43:31] <rickyb98>	 im using telnet
[08:43:33] <rickyb98>	 lik
[08:43:34] <rickyb98>	 like
[08:43:46] <rickyb98>	 telnet o site.site.it 21
[08:43:54] <rickyb98>	 then
[08:43:57] <rickyb98>	 user myuser
[08:43:59] <rickyb98>	 pass mypass
[08:44:00] <banica>	 question: i have 100 pages (embassies) and now i've decided that i want a template for all of them... how can mass edit all these 100 pages?
[08:44:30] <rickyb98>	 banica: using a bot?
[08:44:31] <valhallasw>	 you're missing the point, rickyb98. The question is what kind of shell you get, which is independent of whether you use telnet or ssh.
[08:44:39] <banica>	 @rickyb98 can you please use a single line for what you want to say?
[08:44:41] <rickyb98>	 i don't have shell acces..
[08:44:54] <banica>	 !bot
[08:44:55] <wm-bot>	 A bot is an automatic process which interacts with MediaWiki as though it were a human editor and is designed to simplify repetitive actions too cumbersome to do manually. An overview of how to create a bot and a list of known frameworks can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot
[08:45:36] <rickyb98>	 banica: if you want to edit all the pages together, you can use a bot.. (i don't know how to use a bot, but maybe you do..)
[08:46:02] <rickyb98>	 valhallasw: i don't have shell access..
[08:46:20] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: then what are you connecting to?
[08:46:36] <rickyb98>	 to my website!
[08:47:05] <valhallasw>	 typically, telnetting into a server gives you a shell. What do *you* get?
[08:47:14] <rickyb98>	 want the message i get?
[08:47:24] <valhallasw>	 that would help, yes.
[08:47:32] <valhallasw>	 or you could check your hosters' documentation
[08:47:39] <rickyb98>	 i'll give it to you in prviate, not to flood..
[08:48:44] <rickyb98>	 sent
[08:49:03] <valhallasw>	 that's FTP, not telnet
[08:49:16] <rickyb98>	 yes, filezilla uses the same thing..
[08:49:17] <valhallasw>	 which I should have seen, as you're connecting to port 21 and not 23
[08:49:29] <rickyb98>	 i told you, i don't have shell accesss
[08:49:32] <rickyb98>	 access*
[08:50:17] <valhallasw>	 OK, let me rephrase your question for you. "How do I remove or list all empty folders over FTP?"
[08:50:31] <rickyb98>	 exactly..
[08:51:12] <valhallasw>	 and I honestly don't know - other than just getting the full contents and running the find command above locally
[08:51:23] * ori-l  awards valhallasw the Medal of Supreme Patience

[08:51:53] <rickyb98>	 ori-l: i know im such a ball-breaker,  but when i start doing something i want it to be complete..
[08:51:56] <valhallasw>	 does that come with cookies? :-D
[08:52:03] <rickyb98>	 lol
[08:52:32] <ori-l>	 rickyb98: yes, but the 'telnet' thing was a 20 minute goose chase
[08:52:49] <rickyb98>	 ori-l: xD
[08:53:03] <ori-l>	 anyways, you could probably script it
[08:53:16] <ori-l>	 but whether or not that would be worth the time depends on how many of these you think you have
[08:53:55] <rickyb98>	 you know, i downloaded 1.22wmf8, and the extensions folder is full of empty folders...
[08:54:23] <ori-l>	 they can be automatically populated with files using 'git submodule'
[08:54:37] <rickyb98>	 from shell.. arrrrrrrrr
[08:54:44] <ori-l>	 well, if they're all in one place
[08:55:05] <ori-l>	 just Ctrl+A in your FTP client to select all, and while holding down Ctrl click on the ones you want to keep to unselect them
[08:55:14] <ori-l>	 IIRC you just have a few that actually have files, right?
[08:55:23] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: what's the problem of having empty folders anyway....?
[08:55:29] <ori-l>	 it's also OK to just leave the empty folders in place, they're not really doing anything bad
[08:55:34] <ori-l>	 ^ that :)
[08:56:00] <rickyb98>	 no, they're not.. but if i could fill them up, that would be great
[08:56:10] <rickyb98>	 how do i use git submodule?
[08:56:30] <valhallasw>	 !submodules
[08:56:34] <valhallasw>	 hm.
[08:56:38] <rickyb98>	 lol
[08:56:38] <valhallasw>	 no wm-bot?
[08:56:50] <valhallasw>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git
[08:57:31] <valhallasw>	 !submodules is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Download_all_extensions
[08:57:32] <wm-bot>	 You are not authorized to perform this, sorry
[08:57:34] <valhallasw>	 meh.
[08:57:56] <rickyb98>	 wait
[08:57:59] <rickyb98>	 i'll do it
[08:58:04] <rickyb98>	 !submodules is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Download_all_extensions
[08:58:04] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[08:58:11] <rickyb98>	 !submodules
[08:58:11] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Download_all_extensions
[08:58:11] <ori-l>	 ...really?
[08:58:18] <rickyb98>	 yes :)
[08:58:46] * ori-l  consoles valhallasw

[08:58:49] <valhallasw>	 I guess you could also put the git submodule manpage there, but then you need to have a CS degree to understand it :p
[08:59:11] <rickyb98>	 cs?
[08:59:15] <ori-l>	 computer science
[08:59:20] <rickyb98>	 oh
[08:59:26] <ori-l>	 !cs is computer science
[08:59:27] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[08:59:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:59:31] <ori-l>	 heh
[08:59:34] <rickyb98>	 lol
[08:59:35] <rickyb98>	 xD
[08:59:45] <ori-l>	 how do we make valhallasw trusted?
[08:59:47] <rickyb98>	 valhallasw: how comes you're not authorized?
[08:59:50] <rickyb98>	 eh
[08:59:54] <rickyb98>	 he should get a cloak
[08:59:57] <rickyb98>	 do a whois on me
[09:00:15] <rickyb98>	 wait, i'll link you the page
[09:00:31] <wm-bot>	 Successfuly added .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw
[09:00:31] <ori-l>	 @trustadd .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw trusted
[09:00:49] <rickyb98>	 https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dG1FTWV1RnNBVHFOSnExMHF6aUhya2c6MA
[09:00:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VE won't save after editing a reference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50161 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[09:00:56] <rickyb98>	 he could do this procedure..
[09:01:02] <ori-l>	 'unaffiliated' is a legit cloak
[09:01:06] <rickyb98>	 yep
[09:01:27] <ori-l>	 !cs del
[09:01:28] <wm-bot>	 Successfully removed cs
[09:01:38] <ori-l>	 valhallasw: try it?
[09:01:44] <valhallasw>	 !cs is computer science
[09:01:44] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[09:01:49] <valhallasw>	 Yay.
[09:01:59] <rickyb98>	 yayy
[09:01:59] <ori-l>	 :)
[09:02:35] <rickyb98>	 valhallasw: if you wanna get a wikipedia/mediawiki/wikimedia cloak, follow that procedure...
[09:02:40] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: I'm 'unaffiliated' because I'm affiliated with multiple projects :-)
[09:02:45] <rickyb98>	 oh
[09:02:46] <rickyb98>	 okay
[09:02:47] <rickyb98>	 :)
[09:03:13] <rickyb98>	 !trusted
[09:03:22] <rickyb98>	 @trusted
[09:03:22] <wm-bot>	 I trust:  petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/MZMcBride (2admin), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@fsf/.* (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted),
[09:08:05] <rickyb98>	 back to the extensions thing..
[09:08:16] <rickyb98>	 about this -->
[09:08:16] <rickyb98>	 $ git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions.git
[09:08:16] <rickyb98>	 $ cd extensions
[09:08:16] <rickyb98>	 $ git submodule update --init --recursive
[09:08:26] <rickyb98>	 what should git clone be like?
[09:09:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) A way to navigate between topics in Wiktionary Beer parlour etc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11521  +comment (10Andrew Dunbar)
[09:09:51] <banica>	 there is anyway to restrict direct access at Special Pages from my mediawiki?
[09:10:07] <rickyb98>	 yes.. it's an extension, let me search for that..
[09:10:32] <rickyb98>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown
[09:10:39] <rickyb98>	 it's not secure but.. be careful..
[09:15:24] <rickyb98>	 ori-l: if i did this --> git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions <-- i would get all the extensions that mediawiki website is running, right?
[09:16:35] <rickyb98>	 no, i would get empty folders… arrrr
[09:22:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) --wiki works only for wizards and Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23348  +comment (10Hydra)
[09:23:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:26:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:27:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:31:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function exists() on a non-object at /extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.body.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50117  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:33:56] <rickyb98>	 guys, i've deleted the folders i don't need
[09:34:02] <rickyb98>	 now the other empty folders
[09:34:11] <rickyb98>	 (the folders of the extensions i need)
[09:34:16] <rickyb98>	 how do i populate only them?
[09:35:27] <rickyb98>	 ori-l: ?
[09:36:40] <rickyb98>	 valhallasw: ?
[09:37:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image insertion dialog shows thumbnails twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[09:39:27] <Juandev>	 hi
[09:39:37] <Juandev>	 any extensions to evaluate content of pages?
[09:41:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unexpected bolding /introduced/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50146  (10JohnCD67)
[09:42:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Disable Webfonts for Tamil Wikimedia Projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49930  +comment (10Siebrand)
[09:43:58] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: man git submodule
[09:45:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ULS from ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49889  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[09:47:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) on he.wikivoyage TOC are on the left instead of right as you would expect in RTL wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46864  -patch-in-gerrit +shell; +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:48:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add "FancyCaptcha spell checker" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50162 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension); ()
[09:49:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Footnotes containing templates are not exported in PDF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50090  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:49:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image insertion dialog shows thumbnails twice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158  +comment (10at.light)
[09:49:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add "FancyCaptcha spell checker" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50162  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:51:21] <rickyb98>	 man git submodule?
[09:51:24] <rickyb98>	 only that?
[09:51:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Line Numbers on Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13644  +comment (10Alessandro Brollo)
[09:53:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please create a component for PageImages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50139  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[09:54:52] <rickyb98>	 valhallasw: ?
[09:55:13] <rickyb98>	 !git
[09:55:13] <wm-bot>	 MediaWiki development is using git, a distributed source control manager, starting on March 21st, 2012; details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_happens Instructions for using it: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow To get an account: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Labsconsole_accounts
[09:55:46] <rickyb98>	 ori-l: ?
[09:58:34] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: 'check the git submodule manual and try to find out from there'.
[09:58:53] <rickyb98>	 if you know, can you just tell me? the man is really long..
[09:59:59] <rickyb98>	 ok, doesn't matter, i'll do it manually, extension by extension… :(
[10:00:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) "TypeError: $.aftUtils is undefined" on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50163 minor; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[10:02:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Magic word "int:" should accept ISO 639 language code to translate interface messages into user define language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50164 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; ()
[10:06:24] <valhallasw>	 rickyb98: becasue I don't.
[10:06:31] <valhallasw>	 because I don't know*
[10:07:10] <rickyb98>	 okay..
[10:07:12] <rickyb98>	 i did it..
[10:07:13] <rickyb98>	 thanks
[10:07:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Magic word "int:" should accept ISO 639 language code to translate interface messages into user define language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50164  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:11:06] <andre__>	 rickyb98, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git#Download_all_extensions
[10:11:19] <rickyb98>	 that's ALL extensions..
[10:11:33] <rickyb98>	 but, i did it..
[10:11:34] <rickyb98>	 thanks
[10:11:35] <rickyb98>	 :)
[10:11:36] <andre__>	 is that a problem?
[10:11:41] <rickyb98>	 yes..
[10:11:44] <andre__>	 why?
[10:12:05] <rickyb98>	 becuase i wanted ONLY the extensions i chose, and of which i only had the folders..
[10:12:19] <andre__>	 write a script?
[10:12:54] <rickyb98>	 told you, did it..
[10:13:07] <rickyb98>	 i would spend much more time writing a script than doing it manually..
[10:13:22] <rickyb98>	 thanks for your help :)
[10:14:12] <rickyb98>	 (like that it's 3500 files.. imagine how it would have been if i had to download ALL extensions...)
[10:15:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) nav collapse missing in beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49911  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:16:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Groups of images are alienated under certain circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50165 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[10:16:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870  (10This, that and the other)
[10:22:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove ULS from ml.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49889  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:25:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal on Special:Contributions: Invalid or virtual namespace -1 given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50153  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:26:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Auto-capitalization for Indic typing in mobiles to be disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49961  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:28:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Auto-capitalization for Indic typing in mobiles to be disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49961  +comment (10psubhashish)
[10:29:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Browser crashes on web fonts loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49936  04BLOCKER->04CRIT; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:29:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:29:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Inline template incorrectly displayed as block template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50166 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[10:30:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() unlocalizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45385  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:31:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Global AbuseLog entries showing wrong usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49918   +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper)
[10:32:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Dirty diffs due to removing whitespaces from empty template fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50157  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[10:33:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Test Failed in PHP 5.3.3 while installing Luasandbox: "Functions called on an invalid LuaSandbox, after emergency timeout" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49509  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:35:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) FOUC on Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49610  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:35:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "Disable input tools" removes the whole text field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49614  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:36:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782  +comment (10Tomer A.)
[10:37:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki tries to create a thumbnail multiple times although that is not needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49528   +performance (10Andre Klapper)
[10:37:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Thumbnail/imagescaler (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41371  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:37:33] <rickyb98>	 why does cloning from git generates a folder named .git ? can i remove it?
[10:37:59] <rickyb98>	 generate*
[10:38:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ORMRow::insert() fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43475  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:38:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JS & Display Issues on Preferences page on IE 10 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48739  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:38:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a setting to turn off images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33866  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:39:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Disk-backed object cache needs regular purge mechanism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32452  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:40:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) edits to course pages do not show up Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43711  +comment (10Tomer A.)
[10:40:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860  +comment (10alchimistawp)
[10:41:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RenameUserCleanup broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48456  normal->major (10Andre Klapper)
[10:41:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove MediaWiki:Monobook.css and MediaWiki:Monobook.js from wgWhitelistRead in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48381  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:42:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10psubhashish)
[10:45:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) wiki link contained in index page are mishandled if they contain a ":" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47011  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:45:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Auto-capitalization for Indic typing in mobiles to be disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49961  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:46:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RefreshLinks jobs don't appear to run on edits of template with large number of backlinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50135  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:46:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) By renaming a Lua module the related subpages should be renamed as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50150  (10Andre Klapper)
[10:47:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
[10:48:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [time.js] it should be possible to enter a decade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48675  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[10:48:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) calendar system name can't be translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49080  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[10:48:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Auto-capitalization for Indic typing in mobiles to be disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49961  +comment (10psubhashish)
[10:51:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10psubhashish)
[10:52:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515   +upstream; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[10:52:29] <Lcawte>	 Nikerabbit: (Sorry if this is directed at the wrong person) Are there any database changes needed for pre-1.19 log entries to update them to the new logging system, just noticed one of the extensions I use is pre-1.19 on a 1.21 wiki and we're going to upgrade it :)
[10:55:42] <Nikerabbit>	 Lcawte: nope
[10:56:04] <Nikerabbit>	 not as far as I know
[10:56:24] <Lcawte>	 Awesome, thanks! :)
[10:57:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove '-', 'MediaWiki:Monobook.css' and 'MediaWiki:Monobook.js' from wgWhitelistRead in InitialiseSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48381  summary (10Liangent)
[10:58:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  summary; +comment (10MWJames)
[11:01:53] <rickyb98>	 -121 to the end.. yayy aww..
[11:02:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[11:02:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167  (10Ed Sanders)
[11:02:42] <rickyb98>	 -30
[11:03:16] <rickyb98>	 FINISHED!
[11:03:26] <rickyb98>	 ahhh.. my new fresh wiki...
[11:09:57] <rickyb98>	 !faq
[11:09:57] <wm-bot>	 Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ
[11:12:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10jgerber)
[11:13:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[11:17:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Magic word "int:" should accept ISO 639 language code to translate interface messages into user define language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50164  +comment (10Eduard.Braun2)
[11:17:36] <rickyb98>	 can i change my upgrade key to something i remember?
[11:20:16] <sane>	 !cs
[11:20:16] <wm-bot>	 computer science
[11:20:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
[11:20:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Odd behavior using arrow keys for cursor movement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50168 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[11:26:43] <saqib>	 hi, anybody around?
[11:27:27] <saqib>	 is there a way to find out the mot active users on wikivoyage wiki ?
[11:27:32] <saqib>	 most*
[11:29:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS: Selector toggle for IME showing up in top/left corner of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50041  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[11:30:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS: Selector toggle for IME showing up in top/left corner of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50041  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:30:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:31:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558  (10Siebrand)
[11:33:45] <rickyb98>	 !cs del
[11:33:45] <wm-bot>	 Successfully removed cs
[11:33:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558  (10Nemo)
[11:34:05] <rickyb98>	 !cs is The acronym CS stands for Computer Science.
[11:34:05] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[11:34:08] <rickyb98>	 !cs
[11:34:08] <wm-bot>	 The acronym CS stands for Computer Science.
[11:36:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME icon appears outside text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49558  (10Nemo)
[11:36:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME selector at top of text field can have larger height than browser viewport, unable to select top entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49679  (10Nemo)
[11:37:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[11:37:22] <odder>	 ...
[11:37:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME selector at top of text field can have larger height than browser viewport, unable to select top entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49679  (10Nemo)
[11:37:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Misplaced IME icon and selector in ULS language selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41738  (10Nemo)
[11:39:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50032   +upstream; +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:39:52] <rickyb98>	 is there a var in abusefilter to say 'edit was from a bot'?
[11:41:00] <rickyb98>	 ok, nothing..
[11:42:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50032  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:43:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit template data (TemplateData extension) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50169 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TemplateData; ()
[11:43:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Plugin editors to be created (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46803  (10Helder)
[11:45:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:51:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME fails to re enable by keyboard shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49515  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:51:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reloading of page because of changing webfont and loss of data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49962  +comment (10psubhashish)
[11:51:59] <Steven_Zhang>	 anyone around?
[11:52:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[11:53:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  (10Siebrand)
[11:53:58] <odder>	 no.
[11:55:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10p858snake)
[11:55:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10p858snake)
[11:56:05] <Steven_Zhang>	 I was hoping to get a hand with something...
[11:56:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tamil web fonts broken in some iOS environments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49949  major->normal; +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:57:45] <odder>	 we're not here.
[11:58:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Browser crashes on web fonts loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49936  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:03:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Browser freezes on web fonts loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49935  major->normal; +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:06:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860  +comment (10federicoleva)
[12:06:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS cog icon sometimes missing in Chrome 25 on Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49933  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:07:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS cog icon sometimes missing in Chrome 25 on Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49933  (10Siebrand)
[12:08:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Attempting to de-bold a selection causes text to become "extra-bold" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50170 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[12:10:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Attempting to de-bold a selection causes text to become "extra-bold" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50170  +comment (10at.light)
[12:11:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tagalog is not shown in "Common languages" in the Philippines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49847  (10Siebrand)
[12:13:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tagalog is not shown in "Common languages" in the Philippines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49847  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[12:15:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10ladsgroup)
[12:16:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Input settings are above display settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49735  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:17:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make component ordering predictable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49735  summary (10Siebrand)
[12:20:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add an indicator to show the currently selected language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49736  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:22:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Poorly labelled UI elements in dialog boxes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50171 minor; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[12:22:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) IME selector at top of text field can have larger height than browser viewport, unable to select top entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49679  (10Siebrand)
[12:22:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10ebrahim)
[12:23:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "Disable input tools" removes the whole text field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49614  major->normal (10Siebrand)
[12:24:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ULS cog icon sometimes missing in Chrome 25 on Ubuntu 12.04 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49933  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[12:27:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) In sidebar position, the tip of language settings dialog partially covers cog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49471  +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:30:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167  +comment (10david)
[12:32:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  +comment (10larchenkov.va)
[12:38:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1)
[12:38:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / 1.8.0.5 / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  summary (10MWJames)
[12:42:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: not detecting namespace in namespace-specific templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50172 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[12:43:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit template data (TemplateData extension) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50169  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[12:45:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor doesn't work in be-x-old.wikipedia.org (parsoidserver-http-bad-status: 404) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50173 major; VisualEditor: General; ()
[12:48:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Magic word "int:" should accept ISO 639 language code to translate interface messages into user define language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50164  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[12:50:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10me.praveen)
[12:57:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / 1.8.0.5 / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  +comment (10larchenkov.va)
[13:00:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [time.js] it should be possible to enter a decade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48675  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[13:00:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) calendar system name can't be translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49080  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[13:00:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:04:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Auto-capitalization for Indic typing in mobiles to be disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49961  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:07:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) AbuseFilter's "length" is wrong: 31 characters have length 1? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50107  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[13:09:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) No search results at all when searching in Javanese script on jv.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44350  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:09:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Vector] recent changes uses different font for rows showing wikibase-item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42615  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:09:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) LiquidThreads Echo notifications point to talk page, rather than directly to the thread - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41970  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:10:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] deleteArchivedFiles.php broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40362  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:11:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SpecialChanges* does not use userCan (regression) but did in 1.12 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18393  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:12:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Spam-flagged messages still not filtered to junk queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47390  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:13:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SQLite 3.x / 1.8.0.5 + 1.9 / SMW_SQLStore3_Queries / CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ... "ENGINE": syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50155  summary (10MWJames)
[13:13:36] <mjau^>	 afternoon!
[13:13:48] <mjau^>	 so uh.. I was going to ask something but I forgot :)
[13:14:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() unlocalizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45385  +comment (10Mormegil)
[13:14:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9890  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:14:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:15:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Warning alternates between default and specified warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25086  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:15:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mediawiki:Geshi.css imported multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26860  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:16:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10ebrahim)
[13:17:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mouseover explanations for interlanguage links in native languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5231  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:17:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "LocalSettings.php" is inside a plain-text <code></code> wrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44475  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:18:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) New account creation Wizard pastes default "Tell us about yourself", not what user typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29499  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[13:19:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding possibility to disable or replace ULS default font in Local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49957  +comment (10ladsgroup)
[13:22:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) edits to course pages do not show up Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43711  +comment (10ragesoss)
[13:22:32] <rickyb98>	 mjau^: remembered?
[13:22:52] <mjau^>	 yes! just now :)
[13:22:57] <rickyb98>	 go!
[13:23:29] <mjau^>	 so, I want to migrate a wiki from one box to another. now, the db isn't local, so.. can't I basically just tar the wiki directory and move it to the other server?
[13:23:50] <mjau^>	 maybe hack the localsettings.php somewhat
[13:23:54] <rickyb98>	 yes
[13:24:01] <rickyb98>	 you should hack the localsettings.php
[13:24:16] <rickyb98>	 maybe you should apply some changes to the db settings..
[13:24:33] <rickyb98>	 then you should run the update script to populate the db..
[13:25:10] <rickyb98>	 (i just did it :))
[13:25:13] <mjau^>	 hmm.. the update script? what does that do?
[13:25:31] <mjau^>	 but what you do you think about just taring the wiki directory?
[13:25:38] <mjau^>	 should work?
[13:25:41] <rickyb98>	 you know, either the update.php if you have shell access, or the /mw-config/
[13:25:44] <rickyb98>	 yes, it should work
[13:25:45] <rickyb98>	 but
[13:25:47] <rickyb98>	 actually
[13:25:58] <rickyb98>	 you could just download the latest version from the mediawiki website
[13:26:00] <rickyb98>	 it's faster..
[13:26:01] <mjau^>	 oh I've got shell access
[13:26:21] <rickyb98>	 when you edit something in mediawiki, all the changes are stored in the db
[13:26:22] <rickyb98>	 so
[13:26:30] <mjau^>	 right, but I'll be using the same db
[13:26:40] <rickyb98>	 you could get the chance to upgrade your mediawiki installation by downloading the new version
[13:26:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782  +comment (10ragesoss)
[13:26:44] <rickyb98>	 oh
[13:26:54] <mjau^>	 I'm sorry, I wasn't explaining very well - the db is on it's own machine
[13:26:56] <rickyb98>	 then no need for changing the settings in the localsettings.php
[13:27:23] <mjau^>	 ah ok
[13:27:38] <rickyb98>	 try it, if you have problems, contact me :)
[13:27:40] <mjau^>	 so, download the newest version and then use my own localsettings.php?
[13:27:45] <rickyb98>	 yes
[13:27:47] <rickyb98>	 and
[13:27:51] <mjau^>	 rickyb98: cheers mate :)
[13:27:56] <rickyb98>	 don't forget to put also your extensions
[13:28:05] <rickyb98>	 :)
[13:28:37] <mjau^>	 =)
[13:29:06] <rickyb98>	 leaving for a while :)
[13:31:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tagalog is not shown in "Common languages" in the Philippines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49847  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[13:31:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tagalog is not shown in "Common languages" in the Philippines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49847  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
[13:31:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Dmytro Dziuma)
[13:39:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Exclude disambiguation pages in article count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39913  +comment (10dixond)
[13:41:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Exclude disambiguation pages in article count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39913  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[13:41:05] <rickyb98>	 Guys, I'm creating a test wiki where developers can test their extensions before sending them to MediaWiki. If you want to contribute (creating pages, administrating), contact me! :)
[13:41:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[13:42:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; ()
[13:42:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235  (10Helder)
[13:43:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[13:47:06] <apergos>	 rickyb98: are you familiar with the wikimedia labs project? 
[13:47:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) By renaming a Lua module the related subpages should be renamed as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50150  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[13:48:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:00:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) [time ui] wrong preview when decreasing the precision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50175 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[14:00:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [time ui] wrong preview when decreasing the precision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50175  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[14:01:54] <JonnyDoe>	 hi
[14:02:07] <JonnyDoe>	 is this the official media wiki channel?
[14:03:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lua modules are ignored during PDF export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45861  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[14:03:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722  +comment (10sam)
[14:03:34] <JonnyDoe>	 i wounder, how do I combine two features: 1. shortening of site path (removing of index.php) with 2. keeping the "what links here" feature in the toolbox. I cannot get both to work.
[14:04:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:04:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167  +comment (10esanders)
[14:05:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) mw.ustring.byteoffset wrong for negative 'i' in LuaSandbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50176 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; ()
[14:06:50] <JonnyDoe>	 hello?
[14:07:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) mw.ustring.byteoffset wrong for negative 'i' in LuaSandbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50176  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:08:31] <MatmaRex>	 hi JonnyDoe
[14:09:04] <MatmaRex>	 JonnyDoe: using rewrite rules shouldn't interfere with the toolbox at all
[14:09:06] <MatmaRex>	 !rewrite
[14:09:06] <wm-bot>	 To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[14:09:32] <MatmaRex>	 JonnyDoe: are you having some troubles with it? i'm not an expert, but i can try to help :)
[14:10:38] <JonnyDoe>	 ok, thanks, but I think i need to do a little more trouble shooting first...
[14:12:46] <saqib>	 need help with configuring wikilove extension , any body could help please
[14:12:47] <saqib>	 ?
[14:13:13] <Reedy>	 Steal the config page from enwiki
[14:13:31] <saqib>	 tried
[14:13:59] <rickyb98>	 <apergos> rickyb98: are you familiar with the wikimedia labs project?  <<< no,why?
[14:14:36] <apergos>	 ah, well it lets people create their own virtual machines with mediawiki installed, for testing and developing stuff for wikimedia projects or for mediawiki
[14:14:50] <rickyb98>	 :( noooooooo...
[14:14:53] <apergos>	 it seemed like it might be of interest to you
[14:14:54] <rickyb98>	 xD
[14:15:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lua modules are ignored during PDF export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45861  +comment (10bjorsch)
[14:15:30] <apergos>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page  look at the right side 'Labs'
[14:15:44] <apergos>	 it might not have all you want to set up, but check it out
[14:16:45] <rickyb98>	 while login it's asking me for a token..
[14:17:46] <apergos>	 you need to create an account first
[14:17:48] <apergos>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started
[14:18:00] <rickyb98>	 isn't it the same as the other wikimedia projects?
[14:18:27] <apergos>	 no
[14:18:35] <apergos>	 this account is separate
[14:18:50] <apergos>	 the labs is a separate setup from all the other wikis
[14:19:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:19:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:19:16] <apergos>	 anyways I would read some of the docs and check it out, see where it meets your needs or not
[14:19:23] <apergos>	 maybe you can get some of what you want done there
[14:21:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'timedText' of undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50177 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[14:22:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) PDF handler fails to handle correctly several CSS properties, and specifically position:absolute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50178 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PdfHandler; ()
[14:23:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF handler fails to handle correctly several CSS properties, and specifically position:absolute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50178  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[14:24:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF handler fails to handle correctly several CSS properties, and specifically position:absolute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50178  (10kipod)
[14:24:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lua modules are ignored during PDF export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45861  (10kipod)
[14:26:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "TypeError: $.aftUtils is undefined" on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50163  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[14:32:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make qacct usable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48696  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:32:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make qacct usable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48696  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:35:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "TypeError: $.aftUtils is undefined" on en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50163  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:36:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search should index template expansion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18861  (10Nik Everett)
[14:44:23] <sane>	 Does anybody know if there is a way to import exported xml files (from the wiki) into a subspace?
[14:45:33] <MatmaRex>	 sane: you could modify the XML in whichever way you want
[14:45:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Spam-flagged messages still not filtered to junk queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47390  +comment (10rjd0060.wiki)
[14:46:22] <sane>	 Ok, so if I change the title to say for instance "MySubSpace/Article" it will automatically appear in the subspace?
[14:46:44] <MatmaRex>	 when you import it, yes
[14:46:47] <MatmaRex>	 brb
[14:46:50] <sane>	 Sweet
[14:46:52] <sane>	 Thank you
[14:47:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Parsoid: Round trip bug with apostrophe next to italics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50179 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[14:48:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) View history gives fatal error after new edit to course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49971  +comment (10Tomer A.)
[14:48:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) new edits to course pages do not create entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48782  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[14:48:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) View history gives fatal error after new edit to course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49971  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[14:49:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) edits to course pages do not show up Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43711  +comment (10wiki.tomer)
[14:50:25] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, how do I edit a wiki page from the PHP backend?
[14:50:27] * YuviPanda  looks

[14:50:29] <YuviPanda>	 there's no 'setContent'
[14:50:36] <YuviPanda>	 but I suppose I might have to create a new revision
[14:50:37] <YuviPanda>	 or something
[14:52:02] <YuviPanda>	 I wish we had actual documentation, than just doxygen :(
[14:52:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" unhelpful for page creations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50180 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:53:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10Ravishankar)
[14:54:17] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, doEdit
[14:54:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Dirty diffs due to removing whitespaces from empty template fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50157  (10ssastry)
[14:54:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Notice popup appears when there are, in fact, no notices because of enwiki's hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50077  +comment (10James Forrester)
[14:56:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" unhelpful for page creations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50180  +comment (10jforrester)
[14:56:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: weird behaviour on reload following save (JS not loading?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50181 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:56:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) <ref /> converted to <ref></ref> in some circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50151  (10ssastry)
[14:57:29] <MatmaRex_>	 YuviPanda: what's wrong with doxygen?
[14:57:51] <YuviPanda>	 MatmaRex_: nothing in particular. It's just been a couple of years since I have done mw dev, so had to go hunt through reference docs
[14:57:57] <MatmaRex_>	 YuviPanda: also, when in doubt, fire FauxRequests to the api.php API. (but don't ask me how exactly it's done)
[14:58:02] <YuviPanda>	 we don't have the equivalent of most projects' ' getting started' 
[14:58:08] <YuviPanda>	 or 'api guide'
[14:58:17] <MatmaRex_>	 at least doxygen docs are generally up-to-date
[14:58:17] <YuviPanda>	 MatmaRex_: there's doContentEdit on WikiPage
[14:58:18] <YuviPanda>	 that is true
[14:58:20] <MatmaRex_>	 unlike mw.org ones
[14:58:24] <YuviPanda>	 some documentation is better than none
[14:59:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" unhelpful for page creations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50180  +comment (10okeyes)
[15:00:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make qacct usable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48696  +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier)
[15:01:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Wikitext "review your changes" is relatively unhelpful for page creations; consider behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50180  normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:07:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) {{NAMESPACE}} not running in context so doesn't know what namespace you're in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50172  normal->minor; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:09:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor doesn't work in be-x-old.wikipedia.org (parsoidserver-http-bad-status: 404) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50173  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:10:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The header template is not filled with parameter of the index page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50154  +comment (10Tpt)
[15:10:37] <dan-nl>	 i definitely agree with YuviPanda it would be good to have documentation on how to "properly" use the php classes that exist
[15:10:50] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[15:11:01] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: right now I'm sortof depending on a lot of grep
[15:11:05] <YuviPanda>	 plus ctrl-f on the svn docs
[15:11:17] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html 
[15:12:50] <brion>	 documentation is for weenies. use the comments in the source!
[15:13:12] <dan-nl>	 YuviPanda: i've been depending on my ide … it lists the methods and then gives me info based on the comments 
[15:13:25] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: oh, what IDE?
[15:13:31] * YuviPanda  's IDE is.. Vim

[15:13:40] <dan-nl>	 komodo edit
[15:14:07] <YuviPanda>	 ah
[15:14:16] * YuviPanda  has a perhaps-irrational aversion to IDEs

[15:14:17] <dan-nl>	 it has intelli-sense look-up and if the method is "properly" documented you'll get the just of it
[15:14:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Opening "edit" tab with a middle-click (new tab) disabled somehow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49993  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[15:14:27] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: it should be the same thing, though. Doxygen generates similar stuff
[15:14:31] * brion  slaps YuviPanda with Java

[15:14:33] <YuviPanda>	 but no, we don't have 'proper' documentation
[15:14:44] <YuviPanda>	 brion: see, *that* is the source of my IDE aversion :P
[15:14:49] <brion>	 haha
[15:14:56] <dan-nl>	 lol
[15:16:04] <dan-nl>	 YuviPanda: i've been using ContentHandler::makeContent to create new content and revisions to it … have no idea if that's the "preferred" method for doing so
[15:16:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit template data (TemplateData extension) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50169  (10James Forrester)
[15:16:29] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: hmm, i am guessing doEditContent on WikiPage is... easier?
[15:16:29] <sane>	 Sublime Text 2 is nice imho
[15:16:44] <YuviPanda>	 sane: it isn't modal enough when I last tried it
[15:17:27] <sane>	 oh, you sure? There's a seemingly unlimited amount of plugins that you can install
[15:18:05] <dan-nl>	 YuviPanda: sorry, what i mean to say is that i create content with ContentHandler::makeContent and then use WikiPage->doEditContent() to place it
[15:18:06] <rhonsa>	 I've got troubles using MediaWiki
[15:18:12] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[15:18:26] <rhonsa>	 I created my page using online tutorials
[15:18:41] <rhonsa>	 But now the logo has vanished
[15:18:54] <YuviPanda>	 sane: sure, but will they change the fundamental editing mode?
[15:19:07] <YuviPanda>	 dan-nl: I am just constructing content objects directly...
[15:19:09] <YuviPanda>	 unsure if that is bad
[15:19:11] <YuviPanda>	 or.. not
[15:20:19] <dan-nl>	 YuviPanda: ja, i wasn't sure which way to go about it either … see brion this is where "documentation" recommending what to do would help ;)
[15:20:32] <YuviPanda>	 !b 1 
[15:20:32] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1
[15:20:35] <YuviPanda>	  dan-nl ^ :)
[15:21:02] <brion>	 honestly i gotta catch up on ContentHandler stuff, i haven't looked it over much since it came in :)
[15:21:23] <YuviPanda>	 brion: i'll have patches you can look at later today :)
[15:21:24] <sane>	 YuviPanda: Well I don't know what you want to change. It's a text editor and you write in it like you do in notepad. I usually install plugins in order to get some documentation for the language im using (you know, a box that shows the available methods and their doc)
[15:21:53] <YuviPanda>	 sane: hmm, I'll look into it when I next have a few days spare :)
[15:22:27] <dan-nl>	 rhonsa: when you say your logo vanished … do you mean the wiki logo in the upper left corner?
[15:23:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Support RTL languages/wikis in Huggle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43110  summary (10Siebrand)
[15:24:37] <sane>	 YuviPanda: Do that! There's a shortcut for the console (that I can't remember now) and you just type install, press enter and you'll be able to search for plugins. I've for instance installed a git plugin that let's me write git commands into the sublime console. 
[15:25:10] <YuviPanda>	 sane: thing is I've already customized my vim instance to a pretty high extent, and it makes me pretty productive.
[15:25:18] <YuviPanda>	 so any switch will need to make me orders of magnitude more productive
[15:25:45] <YuviPanda>	 sane: plus SublimeEdit is not Open Source, which worries me a little. See Also: Story of TextMate
[15:26:26] <sane>	 YuviPanda: Ok, makes sense. 
[15:34:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Can not delete image (Postgres) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49523  (10gparent)
[15:39:22] <MatmaRex_>	 sublime? <3
[15:42:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9890  +comment (10peter017)
[15:42:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Apply strict validation when constructing DataValue objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49264  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:43:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add sha1 to list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48359  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:47:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Editing leads to some characters (of wikitext) cut off in later section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50149  +comment (10esanders)
[15:50:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Permit all lowercase (uncapitalized) usernames and user pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26396  (10elliotbrown2)
[15:56:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Support nested templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50182 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:58:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MySQL database updates do not enclose field names in back ticks(`) causing fields to be dropped with reserved words. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50114  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:01:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10greg)
[16:01:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Support for INR symbol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34650  +comment (10Kartik Mistry)
[16:04:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) rebuildall uses wgDBuser (instead of wgDBadminuser), can fail with MySQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50025  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:11:32] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: can I still use wfMessage?
[16:11:42] <YuviPanda>	 I don't have a context, since this is from inside an ORMRow
[16:11:51] <YuviPanda>	 so can't do $this->msg
[16:12:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10sam)
[16:13:52] <dreamer>	 hmmm, encountering an odd bug. possibly more SMW related, but they didn't know about it: I have a query that retrieves images. somehow the template does show files that are .jpg, but not .JPG - the mime-types are correct for all files. and the .JPG show fine in other templates
[16:14:28] <dreamer>	 later tonight I will try an upgrade of my MW and SMW installs to see if that fixes it
[16:14:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) {{NAMESPACE}} not running in context so doesn't know what namespace you're in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50172  +comment (10gwicke)
[16:14:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Move test.wikipedia.org from srv193 and make it a more "normal" test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43722  +comment (10greg)
[16:15:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add drag and drop functionality for text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50183 enhancement; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[16:16:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10sam)
[16:18:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Lua modules are ignored during PDF export - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45861  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[16:19:42] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: yes but like any other global things, try to avoid it
[16:19:49] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: okay!
[16:19:54] <YuviPanda>	 in this case justified, methinks
[16:19:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  +comment (10jgerber)
[16:20:13] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: in some cases you might be able to return Message object and have the caller fill in the context
[16:20:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal on Special:Contributions: Invalid or virtual namespace -1 given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50153  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:20:32] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: i'm storing data via contenthandler, and these are for localized edit messages.
[16:20:36] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: hmm, or should those be not localized?
[16:21:14] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: can you elaborate on the context a bit?
[16:21:28] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: so I am storing Config metadata in a page.
[16:21:43] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: the metadata can be edited by directly updating the page, or by editing it via the special page
[16:21:54] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: so... this is the edit summary to be used when people edit it via the special page
[16:22:15] <YuviPanda>	 so I am wondering if it should be localized at all
[16:22:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Invalid HTML5: Bad value 100% for attribute width on element img - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48333  +comment (10Siebrand)
[16:23:55] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: to the content language at most I'd say
[16:24:12] <Nikerabbit>	 so wfMessage( 'foo' )->inContentLanguage()
[16:24:16] <YuviPanda>	 ah, wonderful
[16:24:57] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: so, wfMessage( 'foo' )->inContentLanguage()->escaped() if I want the string
[16:25:24] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: in this context is escaping 'html escaping'?
[16:25:27] <YuviPanda>	 or something else?
[16:25:38] <Nikerabbit>	 yes, though but didn't you say it is edit summary?
[16:27:17] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: it is, so looks like I don't need that
[16:27:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF handler fails to handle correctly several CSS properties, and specifically position:absolute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50178  (10Greg Grossmeier)
[16:27:31] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: getting back to doing mw stuff after ~2 years, so...
[16:27:31] <Nikerabbit>	 YuviPanda: just ->text then
[16:27:37] <Nikerabbit>	 or even ->plain
[16:28:10] <Nikerabbit>	 it's mostly whether you want to expand plurals and stuff before saving (likely, so text()) or on-display
[16:28:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor experimental mode on test* wikis as well as MW.org and Beta Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49963  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:31:19] <YuviPanda>	 Nikerabbit: okay!
[16:31:22] <YuviPanda>	 ->text() it is
[16:31:24] <YuviPanda>	 thank you :)
[16:37:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PDF handler fails to handle correctly several CSS properties, and specifically position:absolute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50178   +upstream; +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[16:39:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) mw.ustring.byteoffset wrong for negative 'i' in LuaSandbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50176  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[16:40:52] <fortmac_>	 hey im a newbie in admining media wiki... how do i add new users as an admin?
[16:41:03] <fortmac_>	 moreso is there even a special admin panel?
[16:41:29] <Reedy>	 Special:UserLogin/signup
[16:41:44] <fortmac_>	 thanks
[16:44:04] <MatmaRex_>	 fortmac_: you can change user rights at… [[special:userrights]] :)
[16:46:28] <Vedmaka>	 fortmac_: i suggest you install AdminLinks extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Admin_Links
[16:47:58] <fortmac_>	 okay thanks
[16:49:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:50:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MySQL database updates do not enclose field names in back ticks(`) causing fields to be dropped with reserved words. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50114  +comment (10washuu)
[17:03:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor doesn't work in be-x-old.wikipedia.org (parsoidserver-http-bad-status: 404) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50173  +comment (10p.selitskas)
[17:07:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Support for INR symbol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34650  +comment (10shantanoo)
[17:11:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10sunil)
[17:12:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184 minor; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[17:12:37] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: basic working version at https://github.com/yuvipanda/mediawiki-extensions-UploadWizard/tree/campaign-content-handler
[17:12:48] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: still needs a lot more work before I can consider pushing it for merging with master
[17:12:59] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: but the basics are all there :)
[17:13:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) By renaming a Lua module the related subpages should be renamed as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50150  +comment (10Quim Gil)
[17:18:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:19:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Apply strict validation when constructing DataValue objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49264  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:28:27] <rick__>	 Hello. I just updated my Ubuntu to the latest version and now when I try to visit my mediawiki it says that it can't find LocalSettings.php. I guess that I will have to "recreate" that some how... BUT I just want to make sure that the content of my mediawiki is not lost... How do I do that easily?
[17:35:16] <Reedy>	 rick__: Pages should be in the mysql database, images should be stored on disk..
[17:36:12] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: ugh you want me to review this don't you
[17:36:19] * marktraceur  grumbles loudly

[17:36:28] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: yes :)
[17:36:33] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: well, not merge, as such. but review.
[17:36:37] <marktraceur>	 Right.
[17:36:56] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: if gerrit had a way for met o have WIP multiple commits wtihout 1. having to squash them all into one 2. having to deal with 'dependent commits', I'd honestly use that.
[17:36:59] <marktraceur>	 Also, Reedy, I hear you keep failing to deploy UploadWizard to wmf7 targets
[17:37:24] <rick__>	 And how do I know if there are any contents in my database? (I will have to learn how to do this now of course but I just want to know that the info is still there before I start to dig in to how to fix this)
[17:37:42] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: Keep failing?
[17:38:01] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: Last week it wasn't deployed and this week it wasn't deployed to my knowledge
[17:38:27] <marktraceur>	 There was a fix for Chrome IIRC
[17:38:30] <Reedy>	 What wasn't?
[17:38:58] <marktraceur>	 The version of UploadWizard that's referenced as a submodule in wmf7.
[17:39:43] <Reedy>	 Hmm+f0fb66c643014621a4abbde8fd63a4cea30f719c extensions/UploadWizard (mw1.20-300-gf0fb66c)
[17:40:13] <Reedy>	  af614adf949ceed280f8ff778b96fcc1beee6c1a extensions/UploadWizard (mw1.20-306-gaf614ad)
[17:40:17] <marktraceur>	 Looks like it's on Commons now, at least, but Commons is on wmf8
[17:41:57] <Reedy>	 mw1.20.... branch is coming from
[17:42:03] <Reedy>	 *I wonder where that
[17:42:26] <marktraceur>	 Dunno
[17:42:48] <MatmaRex_>	 !schema
[17:42:48] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout
[17:42:53] <Reedy>	  e66e10287ef47d243d1faefc878629afb772cc89 extensions/WikiLove (heads/master)
[17:42:54] <Reedy>	  3edae87d47ee5555fb2c93a637850c830d0e66a9 extensions/Wikibase (2013-06-05-5-g3edae87)
[17:42:54] <Reedy>	  07edd60860d3368b4d1aeba53c5595a23445fe62 extensions/WikimediaIncubator (heads/master)
[17:42:54] <Reedy>	  6ec3ea66cb863ac7277047f3a47f2e8821feb4c8 extensions/WikimediaMaintenance (heads/master)
[17:42:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Protecting action doesn't update page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34039  +comment (10Phoenixoverride)
[17:43:07] <MatmaRex_>	 rick__: i think you should just check the revision table
[17:43:13] <MatmaRex_>	 !db revision | rick__
[17:43:14] <wm-bot>	 rick__: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:revision_table
[17:43:37] <MatmaRex_>	 if there's more than one entry, it's good.
[17:43:49] <MatmaRex_>	 (the one could be the default contents of the main page)
[17:44:26] <rick__>	 MatamaRex_: Thanks! I will look at it
[17:45:56] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: There's maybe 5 or 6 that look similarily odd
[17:46:02] <marktraceur>	 Hm.
[17:46:04] <MatmaRex_>	 rick__: also,
[17:46:09] <MatmaRex_>	 !tabcompletion | rick__
[17:46:09] <wm-bot>	 rick__: Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line. This avoids misspellings. Just make sure it's the right person!
[17:46:10] <MatmaRex_>	 :)
[17:46:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Wikidata diff page does not work with coordinate property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50185 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[17:49:03] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: So I'm not sure what the best option is for seeing the diff between your branch and master...can you submit a pull request with a summary to the effect of "AGH OH GOD PLEASE DO NOT MERGE"
[17:49:21] <rick__>	 MatmaRex_: Sorry... I haven't used ICR in 12 years or so... so there are a lot of things that I have forgotten... :) 
[17:49:36] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: it's not following any branch :/
[17:49:45] <MatmaRex_>	 rick__: :)
[17:49:49] <Reedy>	 reedy@tin:/a/common/php-1.22wmf8/extensions/UploadWizard$ git branch -a
[17:49:50] <Reedy>	 * (no branch)
[17:49:50] <Reedy>	   master
[17:49:50] <Reedy>	   remotes/origin/HEAD -> origin/master
[17:49:56] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: heh, ok
[17:49:56] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: That's disturbing, especially since I've deployed it multiple times...successfully
[17:50:40] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-UploadWizard/pull/3
[17:51:11] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: that also would've auto-submitted a gerrit patch now, so leave your comments at either place :)
[17:51:20] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: actually no, can you just leave your comments on github?
[17:51:28] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: since Gerrit will just have one huge monster patch
[17:51:38] <marktraceur>	 Yeah sure
[17:51:47] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: ty!
[17:52:09] <Reedy>	 Where the hell is that (mw1.20-322-g654c3e1) mw1.20 prefix coming from?
[17:52:40] <Reedy>	 mw1.20 is a branch..
[17:52:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikidata diff page does not work with coordinate property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50185  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[17:52:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Coordinates diffs are blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49404  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[17:52:48] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: I have no idea, I haven't seen that before
[17:53:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CSS: Ugly dot shown when "See Also:" Bugzilla field is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42731  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:56:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CSS: Ugly dot shown when "See Also:" Bugzilla field is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42731  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[17:57:40] <marktraceur>	 Rasel160: Howdy! How are things?
[18:01:45] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: can I change the structure of some config parameters?
[18:01:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add drag and drop functionality for text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50183  +comment (10Quiddity)
[18:01:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981  +comment (10Quiddity)
[18:01:51] <YuviPanda>	 or is that... not good?
[18:02:08] <YuviPanda>	 specifically I want to change config to be a proper nested associate array than the pure list
[18:02:32] <YuviPanda>	 there are about 4 tutorial related properties that can be grouped togerther, lots of field related ones, defaults that should be grouped, etc
[18:02:38] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: It um...might be bad
[18:02:46] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: backwards compat?
[18:02:48] <YuviPanda>	 or..?
[18:02:51] <marktraceur>	 Well
[18:03:07] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: We practically have the mindset that Commons is our only consumer (it isn't)
[18:03:16] <YuviPanda>	 who else uses UW right now?
[18:03:34] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: And we seem to accept the idea that complicated array structures aren't hard to merge (they are)
[18:03:48] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: Campaigns, EducationProgram, LdapAuthentication, Nuke and UploadWizard seem to be in this weird state
[18:04:07] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: merge in the sense? merge from global + per-campaign properties?
[18:04:09] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Some third-party wikis use it
[18:04:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CSS: Ugly dot shown when "See Also:" Bugzilla field is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42731  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:04:37] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Merge in the sense that global and LocalSettings.php config arrays need to get merged and it's not always easy to do that
[18:04:40] <Rasel160>	 marktraceur: Hi!, its going well, i will have a new patchset in a few hours
[18:04:42] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: sure, this will be an update, we can have an easy way for them to keep using the current structure (there all exist one-to-one mappings)
[18:04:53] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: handle-able.
[18:05:18] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Maintain backwards compat with all options and I'd merge that patch. :)
[18:05:42] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: by backwards compat I mean 'you can add this one line to your LocalSettings, and you don't have to do anything else'
[18:05:49] <YuviPanda>	 good enough?
[18:06:03] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Why would we need another line?
[18:06:33] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: how else am I to know if the config is in the old format or the new format?
[18:06:56] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: If there are old format config options, it's probably in the old format
[18:07:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10me.praveen)
[18:07:09] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Override old format optinos with new ones
[18:07:39] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, I'll have to write a 'mapping' of sorts anyway since there is data to be migrated
[18:08:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: PhantomJS false QUnit test failures (compared to real browser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50138  +comment (10hashar)
[18:08:47] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: okay, alright then :)
[18:10:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:13:43] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: is there anything at all I can do to convince you to let us require people to modify some of their 'advanced' config if they upgrade? no other changes...
[18:13:52] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: specifically, at least the 'idField*' hacks
[18:14:01] <YuviPanda>	 I am okay with leaving the rest as is at least for now...
[18:14:13] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I am mostly against that
[18:14:31] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: i know, hence me asking 'is there anything I can do to convince...'
[18:14:38] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I wouldn't mind you firing off some wfDeprecated calls if you detect older versions
[18:14:49] <YuviPanda>	 well, these are string keys
[18:14:56] <YuviPanda>	 hardcoded all over the place
[18:15:07] <marktraceur>	 What?
[18:15:45] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: okay, let me explain with an example. moment
[18:16:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add drag and drop functionality for text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50183  +comment (10pearley)
[18:18:01] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: see http://pastebin.com/u8aJSXF1
[18:18:21] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: first is how the current configuration is. second is how I want to make it
[18:18:59] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: it also has the advantage of literally supporting infiite number of id fields, rather than having to hardcode them
[18:19:17] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: I don't see how wfDeprecated will be useful for this use case at all
[18:19:40] <YuviPanda>	 it's not particularly a hard config change for the end user to make, IMO
[18:19:58] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22/wmf8/Changelog#UploadWizard
[18:20:01] <Reedy>	 STill rather confused
[18:20:32] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: Why's that?
[18:20:59] <Reedy>	 I've nfi what's going on
[18:21:09] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Not hard, but I don't want to randomly break things with no warning
[18:21:24] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: It looks like several commits got merged...why is it confusing?
[18:21:25] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: we can increment the version number a fair bit, and tell people 'warning this will break!'
[18:21:40] <Reedy>	 Why didn't it apparently update for wmf7 or wmf8?
[18:21:51] <Reedy>	 (originally)
[18:22:25] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: I have no idea, RoanKattouw and Krinkle were the ones telling me you hadn't updated it for some reason, dunno if they know what's going on
[18:22:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Guided tours cannot distinguish between read and edit modes with VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50186 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; ()
[18:23:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Guided tours cannot distinguish between read and edit modes with VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50186  (10Steven Walling)
[18:23:09] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: I'd certainly not done it purposely. There's nothing changed in the script that branches it, and thatit's still in the "normal extensions"
[18:23:16] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: The submodule update is merged and pulled on tin, but when Mark did the deployment last week he presumably forgot to run "git-submodule update extensions/UploadWizard" first
[18:23:20] <Krinkle>	 and you the same
[18:23:25] <Krinkle>	 so it is still undeployed
[18:23:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[18:23:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Write redirect rules for GitBlit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41961  (10Andre Klapper)
[18:23:29] <Reedy>	 Krinkle: No
[18:23:36] <RoanKattouw>	 marktraceur: It was updated in the repository, just not fully on the cluster. So as far as git is concerned it's there
[18:23:45] <Reedy>	 git submodule update --init --recurisve is run after cloning core
[18:23:46] * marktraceur  is confused

[18:23:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10me.praveen)
[18:24:01] <marktraceur>	 And I'm pretty sure I ran something similar to ^ that as well
[18:24:22] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: And we clone core on every deployment since... when?
[18:24:29] <Reedy>	 "deployment"
[18:24:34] <Reedy>	 Originally
[18:24:39] <Reedy>	 I've not deployed UW since
[18:24:43] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: I know
[18:24:52] <Krinkle>	 Mark has (or was supposed to :P_
[18:24:58] <Krinkle>	 extensions tend to update more often
[18:25:02] <Reedy>	 Sure
[18:25:13] <Krinkle>	 > #	modified:   extensions/UploadWizard (new commits) 
[18:25:14] <Reedy>	 But it would've appeared on the changelogs that go to mw.org
[18:25:18] <Krinkle>	 that's current state in wmf7 on tin
[18:25:19] <Reedy>	 if it had been committied...
[18:25:20] <Krinkle>	 that's all I'm saying
[18:25:22] <marktraceur>	 I deployed it when commons was running wmf6
[18:25:23] <Reedy>	 Oh
[18:25:41] <marktraceur>	 And I merged the submodule change into wmf7 but James_F|Away and/or greg-g assured me that that was adequate
[18:25:42] <Krinkle>	 He updated it in git (after wmf7 initial deployment, as extensions do almost every few days)
[18:26:05] <Krinkle>	 I'm not saying Reedy should've done it. but marktraceur said a few days earlier he'd have you do it during the next wmf roll out
[18:26:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Guided tours cannot distinguish between read and edit modes with VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50186  +comment (10swalling)
[18:26:24] <Reedy>	 Oh..
[18:26:27] <marktraceur>	 I think the perception was that this would happen in the course of updating all the extension submodules
[18:26:41] <Krinkle>	 marktraceur: Only for the new wmf branch
[18:28:11] <Reedy>	 VE has uncommitted changes to wmf7 too..
[18:28:11] <Reedy>	 -Subproject commit d31918d1459cefeb2113706cb600f41fcea93068
[18:28:12] <Reedy>	 +Subproject commit 4c792ba385d9ad31d79370730ffd065b895696ec
[18:28:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[Special:UnconnectedPages]] insufferably slow when offset exceeds ~30k - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50187  summary; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[18:28:40] <marktraceur>	 Krinkle: But it *was* a new wmf branch
[18:29:00] <marktraceur>	 Or...oh, I guess wmf7 was deployed on testwiki and mw.org
[18:29:07] <marktraceur>	 So not new-new
[18:29:56] <Krinkle>	 That's just a wikiversions change
[18:29:58] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: So the thing I see happening is this:
[18:30:07] <marktraceur>	 Well...
[18:30:23] <marktraceur>	 ^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^W^
[18:30:43] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[18:30:48] <YuviPanda>	 well?
[18:30:54] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: That looks sane to me, incrementing the version number and breaking backwards compat sounds like something we can do with adequate announcement
[18:30:55] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: Yes, I know. I forgot those yesterday when I was yelling at marktraceur for this UploadWizard changes that were pending for almost a week
[18:30:58] <Krinkle>	 anyway, meeting 
[18:30:59] <Krinkle>	 cya latr
[18:31:03] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Make it really sexy and worth the work, though
[18:31:10] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: <3 ty.
[18:31:33] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: I'll just start deploying all of the code none of the time. That'll fix it
[18:32:38] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: Should do, yeah
[18:35:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Sanity check wikiversions.dat on operations/mediawiki-config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41861  +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:38:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Enforce utf-8 for maven builds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45042  summary (10Krinkle)
[18:38:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Checkstyle report unable to fetch context, showing "No description available. Please upgrade to latest checkstyle version." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45395  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[18:41:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Enforce utf-8 for maven builds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45042  +comment (10krinklemail)
[18:43:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Enforce utf-8 for maven builds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45042  +comment (10hashar)
[18:44:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Document jenkins-job-builder "current build parameters" pass feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45910  summary (10Krinkle)
[18:45:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) JJB: document "current build parameters" to trigger-build builder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45910  summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[18:46:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid server check gets killed because of Jenkins' paranoia re: file descriptors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46296  +comment (10krinklemail)
[18:46:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Parsoid server check gets killed because of Jenkins' paranoia (re: file descriptors) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46296  summary (10Krinkle)
[18:49:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Create PHP_CodeSniffer‎ sniff to ensure test functions have the proper signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46483  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:51:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Parsoid server check gets killed because of Jenkins' paranoia (re: file descriptors) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46296  +comment (10mtraceur)
[18:57:52] <ori-l>	 brion: flagging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/70328/ for your attention. I think it would need your input to move forward
[18:59:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set up generated php documentation for MediaWiki extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25978  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:00:04] <ori-l>	 brion: thanks!
[19:00:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Create PHP_CodeSniffer‎ sniff to ensure test functions have the proper signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46483  +comment (10hashar)
[19:00:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up generated php documentation for MediaWiki extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25978  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:00:11] <brion>	 ori-l: np :)
[19:04:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Link is created with duplicate text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50188 major; VisualEditor: General; ()
[19:06:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unable to click on the image/caption dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50159  +comment (10Guillaume Paumier)
[19:08:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up tests for Timeline extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46263  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[19:08:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[19:08:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) jenkins: Jobs for SwiftCloudFiles extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46262  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:08:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Jobs for SwiftCloudFiles extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46262  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:10:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Jobs for SwiftCloudFiles extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46262  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:10:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Jobs for SwiftCloudFiles extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46262  (10Krinkle)
[19:10:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184  (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[19:13:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) beta: set $wgCategoryCollation for languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45525  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[19:15:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Detect text before the first <?php tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44875  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:16:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Detect text before the first <?php tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44875  (10Krinkle)
[19:17:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Broken wikitext escaping for list in transclusion parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50144  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:17:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:17:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Wikimedia NOC links to gerrit's gitweb while we moved to gitblit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50184   +patch-in-gerrit (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[19:18:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Detect text before the first <?php tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44875  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:21:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Fail on BOM in submitted files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38233  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:21:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up job to validate jenkins-job-builder configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43140  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[19:23:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set WikimediaAnnounce-l -> Wikimedia-l forward - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46022  +comment (10tbayer)
[19:29:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pop Up window appears but it is "overlayed by a frame" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49746  +comment (10f.trott)
[19:33:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Disambiguation pages should not be listed in Special:Lonelypages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3483  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[19:35:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adminbot (morebot) to lose ability to post to Twitter due to API deprecations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49476  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[19:36:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add pump.io (identi.ca) support to morebots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50109  (10Greg Grossmeier)
[19:37:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Setup Vagrant for some jobs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48407  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:38:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Captcha whitelist: Allow tools.wmflabs.org without captcha and no captcha for scripts from wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50189 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[19:39:52] <PROMOSPAM>	 Reedy: Got a second?
[19:40:07] <Reedy>	 ?
[19:41:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Difficult to create blank MediaWiki message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50124  +comment (10db)
[19:41:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Captcha whitelist: Allow tools.wmflabs.org without captcha and no captcha for scripts from wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50189  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[19:42:29] <saqib>	 hi, anybody here who can help me with extension:WikiLove please??
[19:43:15] <saqib>	 we've installed extension on en.Wikivoyage.org but we're having issues configuring the MediaWiki file of the extension
[19:45:32] <greg-g>	 kaldari would be your best best, but he isn't in here
[19:45:33] <greg-g>	 saqib: ^
[19:46:22] <saqib>	 when he'll be around?
[19:46:52] <ori-l>	 this time on weekdays is usually good
[19:46:54] <greg-g>	 saqib: he doesn't appear to be on IRC right now
[19:46:59] <saqib>	 hmm
[19:47:05] <greg-g>	 yeah, normal business hours in the Pacific Timezone
[19:47:05] <saqib>	 greg: can't you help?
[19:47:16] <greg-g>	 sorry, I don't know much about the WikiLove work
[19:47:21] <saqib>	 ok
[19:47:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: HTML comments being removed inside references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50071  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:48:03] <ori-l>	 saqib: you should take a risk and just explain your problem for the channel; you never know who might be able to help
[19:48:16] <greg-g>	 !ask
[19:48:16] <wm-bot>	 Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[19:48:17] <saqib>	 ok
[19:48:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add link to protect log on action=info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50190 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[19:49:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Jenkins: Setup Vagrant for some jobs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48407  +comment (10krinklemail)
[19:52:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Add Skin:Chameleon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50191 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; ()
[19:55:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inspector menu appears with blank entry in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49781  +comment (10Rob Moen)
[19:59:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) nearby search api to expose wikipedia nearby articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50192 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[19:59:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174  +comment (10greg)
[20:02:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) bug in collapsibleTabs that causes exception: null != nudefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50193 critical; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[20:02:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) bug in collapsibleTabs that causes exception: null != nudefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50193  (10kipod)
[20:02:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Attempting to de-bold a selection causes text to become "extra-bold" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50170  +comment (10Rob Moen)
[20:04:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) nearby search api to expose wikipedia nearby articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50192  (10luigi.assom)
[20:05:08] <G-Flex>	 I'm having a... weird problem with tables
[20:05:14] <G-Flex>	 I have a template for the table head and a template for the table row
[20:05:30] <G-Flex>	 when I use them together, the last column's header text looks like it's superscript
[20:05:40] <G-Flex>	 but only when I don't put a linebreak in between the two template calls
[20:05:50] <G-Flex>	 er, sorry, only when I /do/ put a linebreak in between.
[20:06:14] <G-Flex>	 {{colorhead}}{{colorrow}} with |} on the next line is fine, but putting a line break in between the two templates causes the problem
[20:07:19] <G-Flex>	 hrm, less superscript and more like it's an alignment issue
[20:08:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update securepoll documentation on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49843  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[20:09:00] <G-Flex>	 it happens with a known good header as well, which leads me to believe it's the row template that's to blame
[20:12:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) nearby search api to expose wikipedia nearby articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50192  +comment (10Jon)
[20:15:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Inspector is shown on next line to the left instead of at the with an end-of-line (wrap) annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50194 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[20:15:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Kraken data flow monitoring not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50195 normal; Analytics: General/Unknown; ()
[20:15:56] <G-Flex>	 bah, this doesn't make any damn sense
[20:20:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) 1.22wmf8: in RTL wikis, "history" and "add section" menu items moved into the hidden menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50196 critical; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[20:21:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 1.22wmf8: in RTL wikis, "history" and "add section" menu items moved into the hidden menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50196  (10kipod)
[20:28:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Make ve.ui.PopupWidget#display signature not insane - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50197 normal; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; ()
[20:36:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: Image insertion uses both the English and the localised syntax for "right" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49849  (10Inez Korczyński)
[20:37:05] <G-Flex>	 so nobody has any ideas, at all?
[20:38:48] * marktraceur  looks

[20:39:04] <marktraceur>	 G-Flex: Do you have a link to an example?
[20:39:32] <marktraceur>	 Seeing the actual HTML would help, being able to edit it and debug would be even better :)
[20:41:38] <G-Flex>	 it's on a private wiki but I can pastebin the templates
[20:41:44] <G-Flex>	 if that's okay
[20:43:22] <bawolff>	 G-Flex: Going to the index.php?title=foo&action=raw&templates=expand version of the page can also be helpful in debugging these types of things
[20:44:16] <G-Flex>	 these are the three templates: http://pastebin.com/YHqyLdh8
[20:44:41] <G-Flex>	 the reason there are two header templates is because they're basically tables side-by-side, I basically copied this shamelessly from another wiki and made it into a template for automation purposes/ease of use
[20:44:44] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: https://github.com/yuvipanda/mediawiki-extensions-UploadWizard/commit/0ef83fd27e223b3c6036b72f9846dabcb22d5393 refactor of the tutorial parts
[20:44:49] <YuviPanda>	 slowly refactoring the settings, part by part
[20:44:53] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: I'll check that out
[20:44:58] <YuviPanda>	 look at the approach? should be fine, methinkls?
[20:45:03] <marktraceur>	 KK
[20:45:40] <G-Flex>	 oh, here's my sample usage of it: http://pastebin.com/dQJncZcx
[20:45:42] <marktraceur>	 I guess I'm reviewing UploadWizard things today....wasn't really my plan
[20:47:15] * YuviPanda  promises marktraceur drinks and stuff when we meet

[20:47:39] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: that doesn't seem to be working, it tries to get my browser to download the PHP file
[20:47:47] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Was that ever a question? :)
[20:47:56] <marktraceur>	 I think Ironholds still owes me a manhattan, actually
[20:48:03] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: he owes me a bottle of scotch.
[20:48:09] <YuviPanda>	 i have no hope of reclaiming that, however
[20:48:12] <marktraceur>	 Heh.
[20:48:20] <bawolff>	 G-Flex: Try index.php?title=PageName&action=raw&templates=expand&ctype=text/css
[20:48:30] <bawolff>	 Otherwise just open the downloaded file in a text editor
[20:48:40] <YuviPanda>	 plus I don't want to overuse the 'he threw away the thing he asked me to lug halfway 'round the world' yet :)
[20:48:51] <marktraceur>	 Heh.
[20:49:13] <YuviPanda>	 will strike when he least expects, however :)
[20:50:01] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: Ah, that worked
[20:50:36] <G-Flex>	 although it's not helping me a whole lot.
[20:51:15] <bawolff>	 It should give the wikitext after expanding templates, which often can tell you when templates are doing things other then what you expect them to
[20:51:27] <G-Flex>	 right
[20:51:39] <G-Flex>	 I'll take a screenshot of what the output looks like, just so you can see
[20:51:40] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: The tutorial settings change looks pretty much OK
[20:51:51] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: :D I tested them, look okay...
[20:51:53] * marktraceur  continues working through the campaigns branch

[20:52:13] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: also found a bug where the co-ordinates for the helpdesk thing weren't being changed for different campaigns at all! 
[20:52:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) nav collapse missing in beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49911  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[20:52:26] <YuviPanda>	 getImageHtml was never called with a non-null second parameter...
[20:52:38] <marktraceur>	 Weird
[20:52:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) More tightly couple object model and interface model in UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49990  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:52:39] <YuviPanda>	 so that sortof got fixed with this..
[20:52:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking: UploadWizard has some pretty awful code in places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49987  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:52:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:52:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:52:53] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: http://i.imgur.com/8Je8eJx.png
[20:53:10] <G-Flex>	 the fact that the two data rows are different is even more puzzling
[20:53:15] <G-Flex>	 (one exhibits the problem and the other doesn't)
[20:53:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking: UploadWizard has some pretty awful code in places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49987  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:53:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:54:44] * bawolff  would guess something to do with the padding being applied to one but not the other

[20:55:16] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: for what it's worth, though, I copied this format pretty much verbatim from another wiki
[20:55:24] <G-Flex>	 but turning it into templates seems to have mysteriously broken something.
[20:56:01] <G-Flex>	 it's supposed to basically look like this: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Color#Color_tokens
[20:56:23] <bawolff>	 That's why I thought the templates=expand thing could help, since it would show you how the template output is different from the non-template version
[20:57:04] <G-Flex>	 there are <nowiki></nowiki> blocks in between the templates' output
[20:57:05] <G-Flex>	 if that matters
[20:57:09] <G-Flex>	 like, in between the rows, headers, etc.
[21:00:12] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: thoughts on gutting ApiUploadCampaign?
[21:00:34] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: not queryapiuploadcampaigns
[21:00:44] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: since ApiCampaign provides similar functionality
[21:01:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) More tightly couple object model and interface model in UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49990  +comment (10mtraceur)
[21:01:30] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: and it clearly says 'do not use this module'
[21:01:49] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: No thoughts currently
[21:01:59] <marktraceur>	 I'm getting pretty consistently distracted by other related things
[21:02:04] <YuviPanda>	 ok
[21:02:15] <YuviPanda>	 let me see if there are other settings I can rip out without having to deal with that
[21:03:41] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Where is queryapiuploadcampaigns?
[21:04:03] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: api/ApiQueryUploadCampaigns.php
[21:04:08] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: I don't want to kill that one
[21:04:30] <YuviPanda>	 I want to kill api/ApiUploadCampaign.php
[21:04:43] <YuviPanda>	 although... Now I'm not so sure htf they are diffferent
[21:04:59] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: I edited out some linebreaks to see why that changes the output/rendering... but the raw templates-expanded version is still the old revision for some reason
[21:05:03] <G-Flex>	 (I purged the page)
[21:05:28] <bawolff>	 probably browser caching. Refresh with ctrl+r
[21:05:31] <G-Flex>	 never mind
[21:05:32] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: actually I want to kill both
[21:05:32] <G-Flex>	 yeah
[21:05:34] <G-Flex>	 my browser cached it
[21:05:43] <YuviPanda>	 or, err, hmm. 
[21:05:50] <YuviPanda>	 query should stay
[21:05:56] <YuviPanda>	 I've no idea why we have both a query and an action
[21:06:10] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: differing amounts of linebreaks DO change where the <nowiki> tags end up
[21:06:18] <YuviPanda>	 oh man I'm so confused now :
[21:06:19] <YuviPanda>	 :|
[21:06:24] <G-Flex>	 although I'm not sure why that matters
[21:06:28] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: do you know which module is used?
[21:06:31] <bawolff>	 Wikitext is sensitive to linebreaks...
[21:06:55] <G-Flex>	 yeah, it is
[21:07:05] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I haven't the slightest
[21:07:09] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Grep for it
[21:07:09] <G-Flex>	 so I'm wondering if I just need to mess with the number of linebreaks in my templates, or what
[21:07:14] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: yeah, doing
[21:07:39] <G-Flex>	 the intended usage is to have line breaks in between uses of the templates, for obvious readability reasons
[21:08:47] <bawolff>	 If you use html style table mark up, it is less sensitive to line breaks
[21:10:09] <G-Flex>	 and I can use that in a template just fine?
[21:10:10] <G-Flex>	 hrm
[21:10:15] <G-Flex>	 I may try that
[21:12:08] <G-Flex>	 would still be nice to know what in god's name is wrong with the one I have
[21:15:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) GettingStartedNavbar logs events with null action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50065  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:22:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) enhanced RC group log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50198 minor; MediaWiki: Recent changes; ()
[21:22:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) enhanced RC group log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50198  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[21:22:30] <bawolff>	 MatmaRex_: --^
[21:22:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) job queue monitoring looks for 1.18 dir and fails / $wmfExtendedVersionNumber.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36835  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:23:30] <MatmaRex_>	 bawolff: thanks, i might look into changing that behavior, as i said
[21:23:37] <MatmaRex_>	 *might*. :)
[21:24:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Hook functions should not be required to return a value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50134  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[21:25:14] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: Heh, I may have found the problem
[21:25:15] <bawolff>	 MatmaRex_: yeah, I have a lot of *might* bugs to work on too :)
[21:25:26] <G-Flex>	 extraneous linebreaks after the ending </includeonly> in some templates
[21:25:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) High priority jobs like enotifs are executed very slowly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43936  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:25:41] * bawolff  *might* fix ALL the bugs

[21:25:52] <G-Flex>	 wait no, those are always there
[21:25:52] <G-Flex>	 hrm
[21:27:49] <bawolff>	 MatmaRex_: otoh, pages like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Uploaded_with_Mobile/Web?enhanced=1 might be an edge case. Normally not more than half of the entries are uploads...
[21:28:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Job queue estimate often woefully inaccurate; need a better strategy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9518  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:28:27] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: funnily, neither of them seem to be used :|
[21:28:45] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Well good, you can remove both easily then :)
[21:28:47] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: and the config seems to come from mw.config.get( 'UploadWizardConfig' ), so I now need to figure out where *that* comes from
[21:28:50] * bawolff  also notes how probably less then 10% of those uploads are legit

[21:28:53] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: heh, yeah
[21:29:05] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/
[21:29:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[mw:Extension:Disambiguator]] should provide a special page to list all disambiguation pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44040  +comment (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[21:29:30] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: notice the third graph. :)
[21:29:43] <bawolff>	 YuviPanda: Looks like a very nice white screen in my unsupported browser :P
[21:29:56] * bawolff  opens chrome

[21:29:58] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: addJsConfigVars, somewhere in UploadWizard.hooks.php, AFAIK
[21:30:05] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: hmm, looking
[21:30:19] <bawolff>	 YuviPanda: I think I see a corelation
[21:30:30] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: do you? 
[21:30:40] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: we used to have a prettier line graph for deleted uploads, I wonder where that went.
[21:30:46] * YuviPanda  will bring that back someday.

[21:30:53] <G-Flex>	 why is this so impossible to figure out when I have other table templates that work just fine
[21:30:54] <G-Flex>	 bah
[21:31:06] <bawolff>	 YuviPanda: The obvious one of you can't delete pictures unless someone is uploading pictures ;)
[21:31:26] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[21:31:47] <bawolff>	 Also, android has NaN uploads this month :P
[21:31:53] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: also exists curl http://stat1001.wikimedia.org/limn-public-data/mobile/datafiles/alltime-numbers.csv
[21:32:06] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: which has 'all time' stats for android, iOS and web
[21:32:52] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: I think you just found that Limn is sometimes buggy :P
[21:33:39] <bawolff>	 Well realistically I'd rather have people make the actual product not buggy, rather than the stats software gui be not buggy, so I won't complain about that :P
[21:33:53] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[21:34:00] <MatmaRex_>	 bawolff: i'd say that log entries should be collapsed with regular edits for respective articles
[21:34:02] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: ah, found it. it's in SpecialUploadWizard but :)
[21:34:15] <MatmaRex_>	 bawolff: but i have no idea how implementable that would be
[21:34:19] <bawolff>	 MatmaRex_: yeah, I think that would mostly make sense
[21:34:28] <bawolff>	 Although some log entries don't have an associated page
[21:34:33] <MatmaRex_>	 aude promised me to clean up the enhanced RC code some time ago… :(
[21:34:48] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: at some point I want to have similar stats for all of Commons, not just Mobile...
[21:34:48] <MatmaRex_>	 !bug enhanced changes wikidata
[21:34:48] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=enhanced+changes+wikidata
[21:34:48] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I was close? *sigH*
[21:34:49] <bawolff>	 but most have rc_cur_id set (I just fixed that for uploads)
[21:34:50] <MatmaRex_>	 wrt this ^
[21:34:57] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: of course! :)
[21:35:14] <YuviPanda>	 I wasn't aware of the existance of addJsConfigVars at all
[21:35:26] * YuviPanda  sighs/whistles about not having touched php in a while

[21:35:48] <YuviPanda>	 sweet, the APIs can die in a ball of fire now :)
[21:35:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full support for wikibase edits in enhanced changes format ("Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" [usenewrc]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44874  +comment (10matma.rex)
[21:37:47] <bawolff>	 rofl: "File:This is the official logo of the law firm of-Goodwin & Howard, P-A-, a small yet powerful group of attorneys dedicated to excellent client services, top drawer legal advice, creating excellence in litigation and enjoyin 2013-06-25 01-50.jpg"
[21:38:01] <bawolff>	 I don't know why I find that funny
[21:39:53] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: there are tons of those from mobile web
[21:40:05] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: I would *love* to know what goes on in those people's heads
[21:40:14] <bawolff>	 "enjoying the finer things in life like good food (grilled, smoked or deep fried)"
[21:40:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database runs amok after using Special:Import - Apache and MySQL use full CPU - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44106  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[21:40:49] <bawolff>	 ok, now that I've laughed at that for a little while, I should probably figure out how to nominate it for deletion...
[21:41:27] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: should also patroll apps at some point. Their deletion rates seem too low to be true
[21:41:44] <bawolff>	 Yeah, I'm probably going to be working on that actually
[21:43:02] <bawolff>	 YuviPanda: Honestly, I think part of the problem may be how the mobile web upload app is structured.
[21:43:20] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: I'll insert my standard disclaimer here of mobile web and mobile app being very different
[21:43:22] <G-Flex>	 bawolff: I spotted the problem
[21:43:24] <G-Flex>	 :D
[21:43:32] <G-Flex>	 I wasn't entirely familiar with what {{#nowiki}} does
[21:43:40] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: and yes, I think that the primary cause being that on the mobile web there is no distinction between wikipedia and commons.
[21:43:48] <G-Flex>	 note that my ColorRow template has it in the beginning when messing with variables
[21:43:57] <bawolff>	 People see logos and things on Wikipedia, but its impossible to upload via mobile web as fair use (or anything other then self: cc-by-sa)
[21:44:10] <G-Flex>	 this inserted <nowiki></nowiki> at the beginnings of rows, which... caused problems, basically breaking the table syntax.
[21:44:21] <bawolff>	 G-Flex: You mean {{#tag:nowiki}} I assume...
[21:44:25] <G-Flex>	 er, yes
[21:44:36] <G-Flex>	 so it seems like line breaks weren't quite my problem after all!
[21:44:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Links to newly created pages become blue only after a too big delay - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47199  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:44:48] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: apps does have a number of good images - The Google Glass article's primary image is from the app
[21:44:49] <YuviPanda>	 for example
[21:44:50] <G-Flex>	 it's rendering fine now
[21:44:52] <G-Flex>	 thanks for the help, at any rate
[21:46:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Notices while creating another account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41462  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:48:07] <bawolff>	 I imagine people uploading from the android app tend to be more in the category of people who actually know what commons is, vs randoms from the internet
[21:51:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) not all jobs are processed (webVideoTranscode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47312  (10Aaron Schulz)
[21:51:15] <bawolff>	 It certainly seems, comparing https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Uploaded_with_Mobile/Android?enhanced=1 and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Uploaded_with_Mobile/Web?enhanced=1 that the ratio of edits to image description pages, to uploads is much higher for android app
[21:52:12] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: true
[21:52:30] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: it's also fairly intentional, I think. We have no 'create account' on the app, for example. but we do on the web
[21:53:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) not all jobs are processed (webVideoTranscode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47312  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[21:54:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 1.22wmf8: in RTL wikis, "history" and "add section" menu items moved into the hidden menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50196  +comment (10fur.hewiki)
[21:56:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Standard inputs lose their values on preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50199 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; ()
[21:59:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) not all jobs are processed (webVideoTranscode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47312  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[22:00:06] <saqib>	 kaldari around?
[22:01:18] <marktraceur>	 saqib: He doesn't like channels with people in them
[22:01:35] <saqib>	 whats this nick?
[22:01:39] <saqib>	 his*
[22:01:44] <saqib>	 username&
[22:01:50] <saqib>	 on irc
[22:01:50] <marktraceur>	 bsitu: Can you ping kaldari IRL and tell him to be anti-social like the rest of us? :)
[22:01:58] <marktraceur>	 saqib: It's "kaldari" but he's not online
[22:02:00] <marktraceur>	 Ah christ.
[22:02:16] <saqib>	 hmm
[22:02:26] <saqib>	 i need help with extension wikilove actually
[22:02:37] <marktraceur>	 In that case
[22:02:40] <marktraceur>	 !ask | saqib
[22:02:40] <wm-bot>	 saqib: Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question.
[22:03:02] <saqib>	 http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikilove.js , this is not updating the extension wikilove
[22:03:28] <saqib>	 i meant not configuring the extension
[22:03:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) run mobile search test in beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50200 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; ()
[22:04:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[22:04:59] <marktraceur>	 saqib: Looking
[22:05:03] <saqib>	 ok
[22:06:16] <marktraceur>	 Whyyyy is it on the jQuery object
[22:06:19] <marktraceur>	 *sigh*
[22:06:45] <marktraceur>	 saqib: It might be that your script loads, then resourceloader loads the wikilove config file a second time?
[22:07:22] <saqib>	 dont know
[22:07:42] <marktraceur>	 Can't imagine why it would do that
[22:07:45] <saqib>	 the same code works when on common.js
[22:09:00] <marktraceur>	 ...huh
[22:09:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: New images get a link=… set whether or not they need it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49844  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:09:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Images: Serializer adds link= to image wikitext when it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49848  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:09:59] <marktraceur>	 saqib: Have you put your gadget in http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition ?
[22:10:43] <saqib>	 you mean wikilove in mediawiki:gadgets-definition ?
[22:11:36] <marktraceur>	 saqib: No, I mean, if you're creating a gadget then you have to put it in the gadgets definition. Right? Or am I missing what you're trying to do?
[22:14:50] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: After some amount of time and interspersed distractions, I've looked through your patch and it seems mostly benign
[22:14:57] <YuviPanda>	 woohoo!
[22:14:59] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I'll try testing it when you say it's ready for that
[22:15:06] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, I don't think it is yet
[22:15:50] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: I'll move all the config variables over, then write a migration script, and then ping you for more CR :)
[22:15:55] <YuviPanda>	 gonna take a day or so at least.
[22:16:56] <marktraceur>	 bd
[22:17:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Round trip bug with apostrophe next to italics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50179  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:23:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Sort page elements alphabetically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49869  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:30:18] <YuviPanda>	 Is it Wikitext or WikiText?
[22:31:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Sort page elements alphabetically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49869  +comment (10Tomislav Plavcic)
[22:34:12] <DanielFriesen>	 YuviPanda: I usually go for WikiText
[22:34:25] <bawolff>	 wIKItEXt
[22:34:28] <DanielFriesen>	 or wikitext
[22:34:34] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: hmm, in this case (config variables) everything is camel cased
[22:34:38] <YuviPanda>	 so I need to pick either wikiText
[22:34:40] <YuviPanda>	 or wikitext
[22:34:43] <YuviPanda>	 I far prefer wikitext
[22:34:53] <bawolff>	 wikitext seems a bit more natural to me
[22:34:58] <YuviPanda>	 to me too
[22:35:45] <DanielFriesen>	 YuviPanda: Isn't your variable going to be prefixed with something meaing that the initial char is ucfirst since it's not the first char?
[22:36:11] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: this is not a variable, but a config assoc array
[22:36:14] <YuviPanda>	 so these are just keys
[22:36:18] <DanielFriesen>	 ah
[22:36:23] <YuviPanda>	 so I don't think they'll need to be prefixed.
[22:36:48] <DanielFriesen>	 For reference want to show us the actual keys...
[22:37:05] <YuviPanda>	 sure
[22:37:11] <DanielFriesen>	 ;) so we can complain and say that <x> would be better than 'wikitext'
[22:37:11] <DanielFriesen>	 lo
[22:37:15] <DanielFriesen>	 lol*
[22:37:17] <YuviPanda>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-UploadWizard/pull/3
[22:37:42] <YuviPanda>	 or https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/70446/ if you prefer Gerrit 
[22:37:53] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: You want...more review? Already?
[22:37:59] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: no no no
[22:38:10] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: DanielFriesen just wanted to see where I am debating 'wikiText' vs 'wikitext'
[22:38:11] <marktraceur>	 Uh
[22:38:17] <marktraceur>	 Oh, sorry
[22:38:20] <YuviPanda>	 i'm still refactoring config variables
[22:38:30] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: don't worry, I'll want more review soon enough :(
[22:38:33] <YuviPanda>	 err
[22:38:33] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[22:38:34] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I get highlighted on UploadWizard and I thought you were messaging me
[22:38:39] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: :)
[22:41:03] <DanielFriesen>	 How about appendtext? like the API: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit#Parameters
[22:41:38] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: well, that would make sense standalone, but now they are sortof subparameters of 'autoAdd'
[22:41:58] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: *ideally* I'd like to not have a autoAdd.categories at all, since you can just as well add categories with the wikitext...
[22:42:21] <YuviPanda>	 still, having it separate would be friendlier, I think, for people configuring campaigns
[22:43:11] <DanielFriesen>	 YuviPanda: I wouldn't assume that. It's possible that in the future categories could be a formal part of the our default ContentHandler Content type instead of always put inside the raw WikiText or DOM.
[22:43:29] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: that too.
[22:43:35] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: so having it separate makes sense
[22:43:51] <DanielFriesen>	 But I still kind of like appendtext
[22:43:58] <YuviPanda>	 but it doesn't jive with autoAdd
[22:44:02] <DanielFriesen>	 It still works even inside of something called 'add'
[22:44:17] <YuviPanda>	 only kinda sortof works :P
[22:44:36] <CaptainBikeshed>	 also this is a bikeshedding discussion!
[22:44:40] <DanielFriesen>	 Since the append is not simply for the semantics of 'add' but for the semantics of where it's added.
[22:44:48] <DanielFriesen>	 ie: As opposed to prepend
[22:45:26] <DanielFriesen>	 With 'wikitext' one asks the question "Where?"
[22:45:28] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: point well taken, but autoAdd.appendtext doesn't sound right to me at all
[22:45:44] <YuviPanda>	 DanielFriesen: maybe I could call it autoAppend
[22:45:52] <YuviPanda>	 so autoAppend.wikitext, autoAppend.categories
[22:45:59] <YuviPanda>	 but ugh at append + categories
[22:46:11] <DanielFriesen>	 ...and I ask the question. "Why is my Mac busted?"
[22:46:43] <YuviPanda>	 clearly it wants you to give apple more money? :)
[22:47:00] <DanielFriesen>	 ...busted video player maybe?
[22:47:12] <YuviPanda>	 busted apple gland, usually
[22:47:14] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[22:47:17] <DanielFriesen>	 Keystrokes started working when I quit MplayerX
[22:48:26] <YuviPanda>	 ah, yes, probably just a 100% CPU peg I suppose
[22:57:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Upload tutorial possessed by demons on iPhone 4/Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50201 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[23:05:18] <bawolff>	 lol, possessed by demons...
[23:05:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Upload tutorial possessed by demons on iPhone 4/Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50201  (10Juliusz Gonera)
[23:05:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Upload tutorial possessed by demons on iPhone 4/Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50201  (10Juliusz Gonera)
[23:10:07] <YuviPanda>	 bawolff: indeed, must be out there, forcing him to use Gerrit...
[23:10:36] <bawolff>	 lol. That took me a moment to get
[23:13:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link editor does not work in the reference editor in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50115  +comment (10rmoen)
[23:18:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10T. Gries)
[23:24:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Insert Link Dialog should warn if a disambiguation page is linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50160   +patch-in-gerrit (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[23:25:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Insert Link Dialog should warn if a disambiguation page is linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50160  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:32:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install "Disambiguator" extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50174  +comment (10matma.rex)
[23:34:30] <Micru>	 hi marktraceur, how is it going?
[23:35:07] <marktraceur>	 Micru: Mildly well! Rasel160 is submitting some new patchsets tonight from what I hear, and it's getting much better :)
[23:36:29] <Micru>	 marktraceur, Rasel160, that sounds great! :) Did you see the Wikidata proposal for Commons? It will have some effect, but not now, maybe for next year :)
[23:37:46] <Micru>	 marktraceur >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikidata_for_media_info
[23:37:50] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: ping?
[23:38:10] <marktraceur>	 Pong
[23:38:21] <Micru>	 and YuviPanda, that is also related to your proposal, right?
[23:38:24] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: so the 'merging is going to be fun' point you made is biting me now :)
[23:38:32] <marktraceur>	 Heh.
[23:38:40] <YuviPanda>	 Micru: true! I don't think pursuing our proposal makes sense anymore, since wikidata is here
[23:38:59] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: is there something already in mw that does 'recursively merge, but not fully'?
[23:39:06] <YuviPanda>	 php has such a function, but it is pretty usefless
[23:39:15] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, I dunno
[23:39:21] <YuviPanda>	 well, that's good enough for me :)
[23:39:25] * YuviPanda  writes it

[23:39:29] <marktraceur>	 Hah.
[23:39:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make Nearby on Commons search NS_FILE namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50133  +comment (10Jon)
[23:45:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Show end of image names in categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17955  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[23:46:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 1.22wmf8: in RTL wikis, "history" and "add section" menu items moved into the hidden menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50196  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:46:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 1.22wmf8: in RTL wikis, "history" and "add section" menu items moved into the hidden menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50196   +patch-in-gerrit (10Alex Monk (Krenair))
[23:49:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please create a component for PageImages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50139  +comment (10Jon)
[23:50:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) E:UserMerge throws a database error for a duplicate entry for wl_user when trying to merge and delete a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49517   +patch-in-gerrit; +comment (10T. Gries)
[23:53:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Webfonts in ULS at ml.wikipedia be disabled by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49894  +comment (10vssun9)
[23:58:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Diffing between different content models throws a fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50202 minor; MediaWiki: ContentHandler; ()
[23:59:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Diffing between different content models throws a fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50202  (10Legoktm)
[23:59:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Bad content model: expected javascript but got wikitext. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41658  (10Legoktm)