[00:00:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: {{refer�ncias}} is expanded to <div><references /></div> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51145  summary (10MZMcBride)
[00:00:33] <Elsie>	 wikibugs is noisy.
[00:01:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add filtering input for gadgets to easily find them in Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51147 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Gadgets; ()
[00:02:29] <YuviPanda>	 Elsie: everytime I mention that I keep getting told 'your client has an /ignore function'
[00:06:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add filtering input for gadgets to easily find them in Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51147  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[00:06:17] <Elsie>	 It seems especially noisy lately.
[00:06:20] <Elsie>	 Lots of VE bugs.
[00:07:05] <Elsie>	 I think the bot will eventually be moved to its own "feed" channel.
[00:07:08] <Elsie>	 It's quite useful.
[00:08:26] <YuviPanda>	 Elsie: i hope so too
[00:09:08] <Elsie>	 I think they tried a few weeks ago, but I guess moving an IRC bot is difficult...
[00:09:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Toolbar broken in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51076  +comment (10swalling)
[00:09:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Toolbar broken in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51076  +comment (10Steven Walling)
[00:11:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: ./ inserted at the start of wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50720  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:16:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GettingStarted toolbar broken in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51076  summary (10MZMcBride)
[00:18:39] <RoanKattouw>	 Elsie: We got that done for gerrit-wm at least
[00:22:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GettingStarted toolbar breaks Monobook top tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51076  summary (10Steven Walling)
[00:23:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: More gracefully handle situations where Parsoid returns a timeout failure code (HTTP 504) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50475  04BLOCKER->15enhancement; +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:23:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor/Parsoid: Beta release to en.wp IP users - blocking issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50848  (10James Forrester)
[00:23:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: ./ inserted at the start of wikilinks when using Firefox 13 and 14 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50720  major->minor; summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[00:23:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor/Parsoid: Beta release to en.wp IP users - blocking issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50848  (10MZMcBride)
[00:26:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: ./ inserted at the start of wikilinks when using Firefox 13 and 14, so we can unblacklist them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50720  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:32:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deletion of a DL into/from a block slug breaks due to missing getAnnotatedHtml method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50076  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:37:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog's layout of template's parameters broken (CSS caching issue?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50728  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:38:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nested identical annotations can be additive, not just identical - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49755  +comment (10James Forrester)
[00:40:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Required parameters of a template are not enforced by the editor UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:41:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should enforced TemplateData-hinted mandatory parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester)
[00:42:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[00:42:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should enforced TemplateData-hinted mandatory parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  +comment (10jforrester)
[00:44:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Yet another dirty-DOM on basic templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50253  (10James Forrester)
[00:46:55] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Newline migration issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51148 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[00:47:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Newline migration issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51148  (10James Forrester)
[00:48:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) fix or remove download.mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48517  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[00:51:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Double-click on a parameter in the selection menu should insert it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51143  summary (10James Forrester)
[00:54:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: {{refer�ncias}} is expanded to <div><references /></div> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51145  (10James Forrester)
[00:55:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: {{refer�ncias}} is expanded to <div><references /></div> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51145  (10James Forrester)
[00:55:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pre-beta needs (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48426  (10James Forrester)
[00:56:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: replacing the first character in the link text inserts ♙ instead of a proper symbol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51112  (10James Forrester)
[00:56:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Change redirection of http://it.wikidata.org and all other language subdomains - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45080  (10Daniel Zahn)
[00:56:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Nicer removal of Cite.php's class=error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51141  (10James Forrester)
[00:57:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: When inserting an image, set its caption by default to be the Commons image description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51032  normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester)
[00:58:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VipsScaler test page can't process requested file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149 major; MediaWiki extensions: VipsScaler; ()
[00:58:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VipsScaler test page can't process requested file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149  (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[00:58:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135  (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[01:00:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rename or remove "Preformatted" in header pull-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50918  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:00:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rename or remove "Preformatted" in text styling menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50918  summary (10James Forrester)
[01:01:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "clear formatting" does not remove links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51018  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:01:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clear annotations icon no longer clearing link annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50461  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:16:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10b)
[01:18:24] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150 normal; VisualEditor: Data Model; ()
[01:18:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:21:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[01:52:12] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) TypeError: Cannot set property '0' of null when running anything - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51151 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[01:52:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[01:57:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should recommend TemplateData-hinted mandatory parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  summary (10Erik Moeller)
[01:57:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should recommend TemplateData-hinted mandatory parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  +comment (10erik)
[01:58:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should recommend TemplateData-hinted mandatory parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50747  (10Erik Moeller)
[01:58:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor/Parsoid: Beta release to en.wp IP users - blocking issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50848  (10Erik Moeller)
[02:08:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Refactor references dialog to allow immediate insertion of reference content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51152 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[02:08:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Refactor references dialog to allow immediate insertion of reference content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51152  (10Erik Moeller)
[02:08:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor/Parsoid: Beta release to en.wp IP users - blocking issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50848  (10Erik Moeller)
[02:18:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10Eduard.Braun2)
[02:19:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) categories icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51153 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[02:33:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Refactor references dialog to allow immediate insertion of reference content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51152  +comment (10erik)
[02:53:05] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Allow signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51154 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[02:53:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add rvparsepst= and maybe rvparseonlypst= to ApiQueryRevisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51155 enhancement; MediaWiki: API; ()
[02:55:27] <dMaggot>	 hi, I need help with my gerrit login
[02:55:47] <dMaggot>	 I'm able to log into wikitech.wikimedia.org
[02:56:06] <dMaggot>	 but those credentials (or the lowercased version of the username) won't work in gerrit
[03:03:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Image insertion sets 'undefined' resource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49829  (10James Forrester)
[03:03:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images loaded over HTTP unconditionally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49283  (10James Forrester)
[03:04:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: <span> annotations next to each other aren't necessarily the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49873  (10James Forrester)
[03:04:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: clicking on a template in the reference inspector causes odd blue shadowing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50074  (10James Forrester)
[03:04:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Middle-clicking/Ctrl+clicking on wikilinks fails when using full index.php URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50216  (10James Forrester)
[03:04:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog improvements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49833  (10James Forrester)
[03:05:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Top left corner of the window shows blue rectangle when selecting templates in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49818  (10James Forrester)
[03:05:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pawn ♙ appears when two paragraphs of different language are next to each other(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47687  (10James Forrester)
[03:08:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Top left corner of the window shows blue rectangle when selecting templates in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49818  +comment (10James Forrester)
[03:11:40] <Sid-G>	 anyone here?
[03:19:31] <dMaggot>	 Sid-G: not in the last 15 min
[03:20:00] <Sid-G>	 dMaggot: need js help
[03:21:17] <Sid-G>	 have a gadget which was working back in jan, n now gives a js error
[03:21:26] <Sid-G>	 no code changes in the gadget have taken place
[03:21:46] <Sid-G>	 so its prob got something to do with the mw updates since then
[03:22:19] <Sid-G>	 the js error is
[03:22:33] <Sid-G>	 Exception thrown by ext.gadget.Twinkle: JavaScript parse error: Parse error: Illegal token in file 'MediaWiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js' on line 1 
[03:23:31] <Sid-G>	 dMaggot: any idea where this error could be coming from?
[03:24:31] <dMaggot>	 Sid-G: no idea, sorry
[03:25:12] <Sid-G>	 dMaggot: Thnx anyways :)
[03:25:33] <Sid-G>	 dMaggot: know who's a js whiz in here?
[03:26:01] <dMaggot>	 Sid-G: knowing that wouldn't help much since there's nobody here
[03:26:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) raise user limit for labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48023  (10m.p.roppelt)
[03:28:23] * Sid-G  sighs

[03:44:44] <superm401>	 Sid-G, what wiki?
[03:48:39] <Sid-G>	 superm401: hi-wp
[03:56:41] <superm401>	 Sid-G, my guess is it's the byte order mark at the top.
[03:57:21] <superm401>	 Try having an admin erase the first line (the /**), then add it back.
[03:57:26] <superm401>	 It may even be trimmed automatically now.
[03:57:33] <superm401>	 I'll see if there's a bug about this.
[03:58:03] <Sid-G>	 k, thnx :)
[04:03:18] <superm401>	 Didn't see any existing bugs.
[04:03:18] <superm401>	 Sid-G, let me know if that fix to the file works, and I might file a bug then.
[04:05:36] <Sid-G>	 superm401: k, thnx
[04:14:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Have the link inspector inform users if they're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page, or reinserting the same link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50240  (10Alex Monk)
[04:14:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Insert Link Dialog should warn if a disambiguation page is linked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50160  (10Alex Monk)
[04:43:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links should follow the local CSS rules as if they were rendered in the view mode (e.g. external links shown with the external icon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38726  (10James Forrester)
[04:43:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links are not shown as redlinks when their target is blank (or as 'stub-alternate-colour' if appropriate) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37901  (10James Forrester)
[04:48:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Yet another dirty-DOM on basic templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50253  +comment (10James Forrester)
[04:52:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector should understand section links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50881  +comment (10jforrester)
[04:53:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156 major; Parsoid: General; ()
[04:57:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid sometimes wraps images in an mwPlaceholder (causing the images to be uneditable) - optimisation bug? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51039  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:03:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a GuidedTour for first-time VisualEditor users (ones for both newbies for and experienced editors?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50601  (10James Forrester)
[05:10:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VipsScaler test page can't process requested file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149  +comment (10greg)
[05:10:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  (10James Forrester)
[05:11:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Infobox is duplicated and duplicate is substed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49823  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:11:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167  normal->15enhancement (10James Forrester)
[05:13:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikilink to redirect: in link dialog, item appears as red under "New page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50274  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:13:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector filters out redirects for target pages, but this logic is wrong for existing pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49502  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:14:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template/Image inspector sits 'above' the toolbar, causing problems if unexpectedly clicked. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50285  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:18:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cancel options unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50955  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:18:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Clearer message when cancelling out of active edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50955  summary (10James Forrester)
[05:21:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Text is split in editing mode(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51015  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:23:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Visual Editor: Need a GUI way to link to page sections for users who don't know Article#Section format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51121  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:23:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector should understand section links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50881  +comment (10jforrester)
[05:24:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Blanking the page using Ctrl-A and Delete keys prevents further editing in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50947  summary (10James Forrester)
[05:26:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to switch image used whilst maintaining the caption and other settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51033  normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester)
[05:27:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Label the edit summary box as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50900  normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester)
[05:29:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template:Listen (and similar sound files) doesn't render the TMH aspects correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50365  normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester)
[05:31:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: enwiki template {{columns-list}} looks particularly-broken at high zoom/low width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50269  summary (10James Forrester)
[05:31:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: enwiki template {{columns-list}} looks broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50036  (10James Forrester)
[05:32:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: not adhering to column numbers when rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50267  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:32:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: enwiki template {{columns-list}} looks broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50036  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:33:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Invalid titles for link target are not detected by link editor (e.g. "Foo{}bar" is allowed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33094  (10James Forrester)
[05:35:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trim selections with whitespace on the end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51023  normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:35:55] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: Hi
[05:36:07] <Ryan_Lane>	 Wikinaut: howdy
[05:36:22] <Wikinaut>	 I read your reply to my mail re. instance
[05:36:54] <Wikinaut>	 you better should ask Marc Traceur, if he _really_ uses the instance - https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:I-000002de
[05:37:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing adds JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51094  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:37:11] <Wikinaut>	 I looked to the files, and only see remains of my work
[05:38:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Modified templates re-render with broken links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51014  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:38:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor:Wikilinks [[Foo|Bar]] expanded in template inspector after closing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10James Forrester)
[05:38:27] <Wikinaut>	 there are other users, but this doesn't say, they actually use that instance
[05:38:37] <Wikinaut>	 just for your information.
[05:51:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki/extensions.git does not update VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49846  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[06:08:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) {{formatnum}} in Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157 minor; MediaWiki: Parser; ()
[06:10:31] <Ryan_Lane>	 Wikinaut: he's using it. I asked him
[06:10:31] <Ryan_Lane>	 that's not an instance that you created
[06:12:12] <Ryan_Lane>	 marktraceur created that instance. it's what etherpad.wmflabs.org is pointing at
[06:16:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Option in ULS to download/save the font to hard drive (to install on OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51088  +comment (10shijualex)
[06:17:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Option in ULS to download/save the font to hard drive (to install on OS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51088  +comment (10Shiju Alex)
[06:29:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rename or remove "Preformatted" in text styling menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50918  +comment (10dmcdevit)
[07:08:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector should understand section links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50881  +comment (10cmckenna)
[07:12:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Grouped edits not patrollable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43977  +comment (10federicoleva)
[07:41:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins build for Commons app broken again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51137  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:41:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins build for Commons app broken again - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51137  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:46:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VipsScaler test page should strip File: prefix from filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149  major->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[07:48:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VipsScaler test page File field should autocomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51158 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: VipsScaler; ()
[08:06:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43037  +comment (10Richard Morris)
[08:06:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Plugin editors to be created (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46803  (10Richard Morris)
[08:19:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) git fetch writes corrupted objects when its connection to the web service is lost during fetch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51142  +comment (10hashar)
[08:20:43] <jboogie>	 Could somebody framiliar with WebStart.php explain some part of the code to me?
[08:22:03] <jboogie>	 line 85,90 it tries to find the path with realpath('.') but if that result in true it then does dirname(__DIR__) but dirname doesn't give the path it only gives the path of the dirctory 
[08:23:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{formatnum}} in Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157   +i18n (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[08:25:30] <GorillaWarfare>	 jboogie: You're kind of here during off-hours. I think most of us are between PST and EST, so it's between 1:30 and 4:30 am for most of us
[08:27:22] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add the Gentium font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51159 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; ()
[08:28:32] <p858snake|l>	 jboogie: tackle Reedy to the ground *waddles off*
[08:29:27] <jboogie>	 i'm pst but a late night guy
[08:30:25] <jboogie>	 p858snake|l: huh?
[08:32:04] <GorillaWarfare>	 I'm EST but pulling an all-nighter.. :P
[08:33:26] <jboogie>	 so this channel is pretty active durin day time?
[08:33:31] <Reedy>	 reedy@ubuntu64-web-esxi:~$ php foo/test.php
[08:33:32] <Reedy>	 /home/reedy
[08:33:48] <GorillaWarfare>	 jboogie: Yeah
[08:33:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 'locale-check.skip' cannot always be created because parent directory is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50965  (10Ori Livneh)
[08:33:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove disambiguation pages from Special:ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51124  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:34:25] <Reedy>	 jboogie: $IP = realpath( '.' ) and $IP = dirname( __DIR__ );
[08:34:34] <Reedy>	 They result in the same value
[08:34:34] <jboogie>	 no
[08:34:39] <jboogie>	 dirname does ..
[08:34:50] <Reedy>	 Uhh
[08:34:51] <jboogie>	 should be dirname(__FILE__) ?
[08:34:59] <Reedy>	 Depends if you're in the right directory
[08:35:05] <Reedy>	 reedy@ubuntu64-web-esxi:~$ php foo/test.php
[08:35:05] <Reedy>	 /home/reedy
[08:35:05] <Reedy>	 /home/reedy
[08:35:10] <Reedy>	 reedy@ubuntu64-web-esxi:~/foo$ php test.php
[08:35:10] <Reedy>	 /home/reedy
[08:35:10] <Reedy>	 /home/reedy/foo
[08:35:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Current conventions for declaring schema are repetitive and could lead to collisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43818  (10Ori Livneh)
[08:36:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove disambiguation pages from Special:ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51124  +comment (10Legoktm)
[08:37:22] <jboogie>	 weird i get the same when i do test php with upperdir/test.php
[08:37:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  +comment (10aklapper)
[08:37:31] <jboogie>	 same meanning . and ..
[08:39:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add font for Cherokee to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31769  +comment (10Kartik Mistry)
[08:40:28] <e0je>	 its jboogie i had to identify
[08:40:30] <ori-l_>	 GorillaWarfare: did you figure out the git-review problem?
[08:40:41] <e0je>	 anways Reedy you are right 
[08:40:41] <GorillaWarfare>	 ori-l_: Yes!
[08:40:51] <GorillaWarfare>	 ori-l_: Well, I don't know what's causing it, but I fixed it
[08:40:53] <ori-l_>	 HTTPS remote URL, yes?
[08:41:00] <GorillaWarfare>	 ori-l_: Yeah, I had to use the SSH url
[08:41:05] <GorillaWarfare>	 Rahul21 was having the same issue
[08:41:47] <ori-l_>	 yeah. git-review is a little wacky.
[08:43:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add filtering input for gadgets to easily find them in Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51147   +patch +patch-need-review; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:43:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: It should be possible to edit interwiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49316  summary; +comment (10Guillaume Paumier)
[08:43:49] <e0je>	 lol i had the same problem
[08:44:10] <e0je>	 i opened a bug on git-review turns out git-review not compatible with http clones
[08:44:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add rvparsepst= and maybe rvparseonlypst= to ApiQueryRevisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51155  (10Andre Klapper)
[08:44:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a way to exclude certain links to disambiguation pages from [[Special:DisambiguationPageLinks]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51110  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[08:45:39] <ori-l_>	 e0je, GorillaWarfare: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/363877#363877
[08:46:15] <ori-l_>	 git-review's code is meh but upstream is friendly, if you feel like fixing it :P
[08:46:39] <GorillaWarfare>	 Heh..
[08:47:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add font for Cherokee to WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31769  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[08:47:14] <e0je>	 ori-l_: thnx
[08:47:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) LinkTitles extension does not work with sqlite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51114  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:47:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SQLite support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20257  (10Andre Klapper)
[08:48:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) You can't foreach over database results. No database installer, other issues. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51115  +comment (10aklapper)
[08:50:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove links which are Navebox Transclusion from Special:Disambiguations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51123  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[08:53:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Save dialog description field doesn't respond to 'Enter' or 'Return' keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38042  +comment (10Guillaume Paumier)
[08:54:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Start date and age displays incorrent "ago" value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51128  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:54:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Calculated Age of persons can become outdated until next cache purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49803  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:56:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New QRpedia product (Bugzilla) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51020  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[08:57:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor does not transclude MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51160 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[09:03:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add namespace aliases VP and VM for uz.wikipedia and change the default namespace name of NS_FILE and NS_FILE_TALK for "uz" language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46534  summary; +comment (10Siebrand)
[09:03:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add namespace aliases VP and VM for uz.wikipedia and change the default namespace name of NS_FILE and NS_FILE_TALK for "uz" language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46534  summary; +comment (10Siebrand)
[09:05:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Threads moved to a watched page do not trigger e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30698  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:06:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Threads moved to a watched page do not trigger e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30698  (10Siebrand)
[09:06:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add filtering input for gadgets to easily find them in Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51147  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[09:10:10] <anubhav>	 AaronSchluz: there?
[09:11:46] <siebrand>	 anubhav: Not that likely. Local time for Aaron is 02:11.
[09:12:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove links which are Navebox Transclusion from Special:Disambiguations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51123  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10reza1615)
[09:12:09] <anubhav>	 thanks siebrand
[09:14:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Canadian Syllabic font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42421  (10Kartik Mistry)
[09:15:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notice during xml file import with Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51105  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:17:41] <anubhav>	 if using msg function do I need to add text or parse function to it
[09:17:42] <anubhav>	 like
[09:18:17] <anubhav>	 $this->msg('FlagSpam')->text() or $this->msg('FlagSpam')->parse()
[09:18:37] <anubhav>	 $this is a instance of a derived class of ContextSource
[09:18:38] <anubhav>	 ?
[09:22:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notice during xml file import with Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51105  +comment (10federicoleva)
[09:24:18] <Nikerabbit>	 anubhav: yes
[09:27:49] <anubhav>	 Nikerabbit: why ?
[09:28:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) User preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50929  +comment (10hartman.wiki)
[09:28:24] <anubhav>	 why can't I just use $this->msg('FlagSpam') 
[09:28:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable ULS by default on all ml wiki projects. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51019  +comment (10vssun9)
[09:29:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:DisambiguationPageLinks should indicate redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51138  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:29:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set up ombudsmenwiki for EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51136   +shell (10Andre Klapper)
[09:30:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove disambiguation pages from Special:ShortPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51124  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:32:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Parsoid: normalisation compressing templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51161 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[09:33:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add free and open licensed font for Urdu script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46693  (10Kartik Mistry)
[09:34:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "pages" property does not allow for integers and arrays of integers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51063  +comment (10Ori Livneh)
[09:35:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trim selections with whitespace on the end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51023  +comment (10okeyes)
[09:35:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Populate metadata, chapterlist, and prev/next in navbar from the JSON structure. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50957  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:36:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trim selections with whitespace on the end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51023  +comment (10okeyes)
[09:38:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search result proposals dropdown Items are being selected by mouse over in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51117  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[09:39:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notice during xml file import with Special:Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51105  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:41:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Entering ZWJ (U+200D) in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51097  +comment (10Runa Bhattacharjee)
[09:41:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Entering ZWJ (U+200D) in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51097  (10Runa Bhattacharjee)
[09:46:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) alignment of placeholders in input fields in the login screen is inconsistent in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45989  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[09:46:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Text is split in editing mode(?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51015  +comment (10okeyes)
[09:47:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "pages" property does not allow for integers and arrays of integers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51063  +comment (10molly.white5)
[09:47:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add font for Cherokee - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31769  summary (10Siebrand)
[09:47:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Top left corner of the window shows blue rectangle when selecting templates in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49818  +comment (10okeyes)
[09:48:09] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) gerrit-wm no longer relays "Change abandoned" and inline comments events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51162 major; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[10:03:58] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Job queue on English Wikipedia is "empty", but also seems not to be running - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51163 major; MediaWiki: JobQueue; ()
[10:05:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Job queue on English Wikipedia is "empty", but also seems not to be running - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51163  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[10:05:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor does not transclude MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51160  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[10:07:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unable to update Reference content & Image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51127  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:20:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Specific diff fails to load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51164 minor; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[10:21:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{formatnum}} in Spanish should not be separated by a non-breaking space (&nbsp;) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157  -i18n +easy; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:29:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deprecating and removing usage of RLE and LRE on MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40258  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[10:31:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 4-digits numbers in Spanish should not be separated by a non-breaking space (&nbsp;) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157  minor->15enhancement; -easy ; summary; +comment (10Nemo)
[10:33:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 4-digits numbers in Spanish should not have a group separator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157  summary (10Nemo)
[10:33:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10Oliver Keyes)
[10:34:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10krinklemail)
[10:35:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: easier parameter selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51165 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[10:35:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10okeyes)
[10:36:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10krinklemail)
[10:36:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:38:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10krinklemail)
[10:39:52] <jiabao>	 I fresh installed ubuntu, after configuring git and adding a new ssh key to my gerrit account. I get this error whenever i try to git ssh clone a repository even core http://pastebin.com/LpiYumpQ
[10:40:01] <jiabao>	 what could be wrong?
[10:41:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Selecting parameters in template editor looks counterintuitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  +comment (10krinklemail)
[10:42:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: normalisation compressing templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51161  +comment (10okeyes)
[10:42:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] VisualEditor: The "Add parameter" confirmation button should be close to the input field (at least visible) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50773  normal->04CRIT;  +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle)
[10:46:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog makes it too easy for users to remove the newlines between parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50584  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[10:48:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Review link input widget behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48789  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[10:49:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog should make it easier to add parameters and see other values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50354  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:49:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) gerrit-wm no longer relays "Change abandoned" and 2+ inline comments events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51162  summary; +comment (10Nemo)
[10:50:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452  (10Nemo)
[10:51:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template/Image node shields should not not appear on top of the toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50285  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:51:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget outwits itself with the leading colon for Category/file links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50279  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:51:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget filters out redirects for target pages, but this logic is wrong for existing pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49502  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:52:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget should recognise input text that look like urls without protocol as external links (e.g. "www.example.org/foo") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50360  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:53:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: wrong image displayed in infobox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51166 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[10:53:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget is not oriented for RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50490  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:54:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template dialog's "no unused parameters" looks somewhat odd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50735  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:54:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template dialog crushing parameters together and nowiking links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51017  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:55:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget should understand section links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50881  summary (10Krinkle)
[10:56:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  summary (10Krinkle)
[11:00:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Canadian Syllabic font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42421  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:07:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Context menu should appear in floated element, not in float origin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51167 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[11:12:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: wrong image displayed in infobox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51166  +comment (10Ltrlg)
[11:13:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Entering ZWJ (U+200D) in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51097  +comment (10pavanaja)
[11:17:47] <Sid-G>	 how to erase BOMs from a gadget file?
[11:18:53] <Sid-G>	 anyone here?
[11:19:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add free and open licensed font for Urdu script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46693  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:23:37] <Nikerabbit>	 Sid-G: gadget file? is that in a wiki or in gerrit?
[11:23:48] <Sid-G>	 Nikerabbit: hi-wp
[11:24:08] <Sid-G>	 Nikerabbit: gadget file unchanged since jan, when it was working, now it isn't
[11:24:28] <Nikerabbit>	 I've never seen BOMs in wiki pages... so I don't know how to remove them from there either
[11:24:42] <Sid-G>	 Nikerabbit: apparently some mw change since then is causing a parse exception due to BOMs
[11:24:50] <Sid-G>	 hmm
[11:25:14] <Sid-G>	 superm401 said this should be a valid bug
[11:26:39] <Sid-G>	 just deleting the line and retyping it worked for the first line, but fixing line-by-line would be tiresome since the file has about 11k lines of code
[11:26:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Sid-G: what page is it
[11:28:03] <Sid-G>	 http://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mediawiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js&action=edit
[11:32:02] <Sid-G>	 Nemo_bis: Gadgets shouldn't ideally be breaking like this should they?
[11:35:48] <Nemo_bis>	 Sid-G: I don't know
[11:42:02] <Nemo_bis>	 Sid-G: have you just tried and downloaded the text in some decent text editor, saved again, pasted?
[11:43:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: ref warning appears within template that contains references, post-modification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50423  +comment (10esanders)
[11:44:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: ref warning appears within template that contains references, post-modification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50423  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[11:49:11] <Sid-G>	 Nemo_bis: That's what I've just asked an admin to do
[11:49:18] <Nemo_bis>	 ok
[11:54:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  normal->04CRIT (10Andre Klapper)
[11:57:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[11:58:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  +comment (10ebrahim)
[12:00:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Entering ZWJ (U+200D) in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51097  +comment (10runabh)
[12:10:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[12:11:52] <MatmaRex>	 hmm
[12:12:13] <MatmaRex>	 what's the simplest way of getting my wiki running again after my database has been cleared?
[12:12:21] <MatmaRex>	 (all tables dropped)
[12:12:26] <MatmaRex>	 i don't care about the data
[12:12:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  (10Addshore)
[12:14:26] <Granjow>	 Hey there. I'm using the ResourceLoader to load ext.Something which includes the script foo.js. Now, on the page I have mw.loader.using('ext.Something', function() {}).
[12:14:31] <MatmaRex>	 actually, nevermind, seems like the webinstaller can handle it.
[12:14:34] <Granjow>	 Shouldn't foo.js be loaded then.
[12:14:38] <Granjow>	 Because it is not.
[12:14:58] <Granjow>	 foo.js defines a variable LW, which is undefined when I need it.
[12:15:04] <MatmaRex>	 Granjow: before the callback function is executed, yes.
[12:15:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10okeyes)
[12:15:11] <MatmaRex>	 but bear in mind this is asynchronous
[12:15:36] <Granjow>	 MatmaRex: Yes, sure. But in the callback function I'm using LW, and it is not defined there.
[12:16:17] <MatmaRex>	 Granjow: then your foo.js does something wrong
[12:16:24] <SBachenberg>	 Hi, I want to switch to another mediawiki side when a hook is called. BUt i dont known the right mediawiki fuction. I tried OutputPage::redirect but it nothing happens ?
[12:16:25] <MatmaRex>	 you need to explicitly declare that variable as global
[12:16:33] <MatmaRex>	 as in, window.LW = stuff, not var LW = stuff.
[12:17:39] <Granjow>	 MatmaRex: Does not work. Also, the second line in foo.js is a console.log, which appears *after* all the console.logs in the callback function in FireBug.
[12:20:10] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Is this an extension or a user script? If it is an extension you probably shouldn't be using mw.loader.using but instead add it to the load queue for the page
[12:20:16] <MatmaRex>	 Granjow: then you're doing something wrong. can i see all the code?
[12:20:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  (10denny vrandecic)
[12:20:57] <Krinkle>	 And make sure the code you have that uses the variable from foo.js has a resourceloader dependency on ext.Something as well :)
[12:22:20] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: It is an extension I write, and I'm already loading with $output->addModules('ext.Something'), just waiting for it to be loaded.
[12:22:30] <Krinkle>	 k
[12:23:13] <Granjow>	 http://codepad.org/KVJ6dqtg
[12:23:54] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: hm.. "require_once "__DIR__" that probably doesn't work
[12:23:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Canadian Syllabic font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42421  +comment (10Kartik Mistry)
[12:24:22] <Krinkle>	 does it? /me didn't think constants would be expanded in double quotes
[12:24:36] <Granjow>	 does
[12:24:50] <Granjow>	 is used that way in mw extensions
[12:25:23] <Granjow>	 Also, the code in the <script> tags works if I run it in ScratchPad (Shift+F4 in Firefox) after the page has *really* loaded 
[12:25:25] <Krinkle>	 I've never seen that in any extension, but that's besides the point right now
[12:25:34] <MatmaRex>	 Granjow: i'm pretty sure it doesn't work.
[12:25:53] <MatmaRex>	 i just tried.
[12:26:16] <Granjow>	 I'm on PHP 5.4+
[12:27:14] <MatmaRex>	 hm, sounds risky, i'm not sure if it's fully supported right now
[12:27:39] <Krinkle>	 Doesn't work here, PHP 5.4 as well.
[12:27:49] <Krinkle>	 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/819f1d88a07ebab4f674
[12:28:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  (10denny vrandecic)
[12:29:21] <Granjow>	 Ok, maybe it worked by accident because I ..-ed afterwards. Changed it to single quotes.
[12:29:53] <Krinkle>	 That won't help. Single quotes are for literals, double quotes are "magic" in php, but even magic quotes don't expand constants.
[12:30:00] <Krinkle>	 Anyway, back on to the module question
[12:30:19] <Granjow>	 Single quotes with the constant outside ;)
[12:30:21] <Krinkle>	 I assume this is debugging and you won't actually output a raw <script> tag on the page with a mw.loader.using statement, right?
[12:30:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Connecting wikitech.wikimedia.org user profiles with community metrics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51050  (10pyfisch)
[12:30:29] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: right, of course :)
[12:30:56] <Krinkle>	 So what is the output in your console right now?
[12:31:19] <Krinkle>	 (when you open a page in your mediawiki)
[12:31:27] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Well, actually I would put the raw <script> tag there, if nothing speaks against it. 
[12:32:04] <Granjow>	 http://codepad.org/PAcN6psS is the output, not so pretty though ...
[12:32:20] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Register the module like you do with the other, and add a dependency on the modules you need, then call addModule withi only the name of your module, not the dependencies.
[12:33:31] <MatmaRex>	 oh, poop. git master MW doesn't install. looks like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23694 got unfixed
[12:33:32] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: I put the <script> code into a module?
[12:33:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: normalisation compressing templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51161  +comment (10Chris McKenna)
[12:34:02] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Well, right now it doesn't look like anything interesting, so for debugging I'd just do it directly from the console (not in a module, not in a script tag)
[12:34:35] <Krinkle>	 But yeah, once this is an actual script that you'll run for every page, it should be in a module so that you're not making extra http requests on every page for every dependency you trigger inline
[12:35:52] <Granjow>	 But for now I only have the dependency on ext.LifeWikibase.editor which already is a module, and the <script> code uses it.
[12:36:09] <Granjow>	 It won't do much more later, it is just for initialisation of the editor
[12:36:25] <Granjow>	 Or would be, if the editor (ext.LifeWikibase.editor) were actually loaded
[12:37:27] <Granjow>	 All dependencies are in ext.LifeWikibase.editor. Doesn't mw.loader.using('ext.LifeWikibase.editor', callback) just wait for it to be ready and then use it?
[12:38:34] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: It doesn't work that way
[12:38:54] <Granjow>	 apparently not. It does not work for whatever undocumented reason.
[12:39:04] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: If you add ext.LifeWikibase.editor to the page queue, then your script will fail as it will load asynchronously (if only by a 1ms too late)
[12:39:18] <Krinkle>	 This is by no means undocumented, it is undocumented to add raw <script> tags and use mw.loader.using inline.
[12:39:47] <Krinkle>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader
[12:40:23] <Granjow>	 Yes. At the bottom it says: /* This callback is invoked as soon as the example.fooBar is ready */
[12:40:25] <Krinkle>	 If you fix it by duplicating the queue with an inline mw.loader.using then that function will essentially make an on-demand http request to fetch that dependency (and all of its dependencies if there are any).
[12:40:37] <Granjow>	 Usage: mw.loader.using( 'example.fooBar', callback)
[12:40:38] <Krinkle>	 which is inefficient and unnececary
[12:40:42] <Granjow>	 that is exactly what I'm doing
[12:41:05] <Krinkle>	 yes, under heading "Client-side (dynamically)"
[12:41:29] <Granjow>	 So I can simply leave the .using() away?
[12:41:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blank page in Opera if event logging is enabled for ULS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50746  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:41:36] <Krinkle>	 the phrasing may be confusing but it is only meant to be used for code coming from components that have no server-side access (e.g. user scripts, not extensions)
[12:42:34] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Things you add to the page with addModules (just like mw.loader.using) are asynchronous. Adding both is pointless. Using mw.loader.using is inappropiate/inefficient in this case, so the solution is to simply register the module and addModules() like you are already
[12:42:38] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Can't view history of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51168 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EducationProgram; ()
[12:42:54] <Krinkle>	 then you add that to the page queue and it'll all arrive in the same automatically generated module package
[12:43:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: normalisation compressing templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51161  (10Oliver Keyes)
[12:43:28] <Krinkle>	 you call addModule( 'ext.myExtension.foo' ) which is defined and contains a referene to the script you currently have inline
[12:43:55] <Krinkle>	 in the module definition you also set a dependency if needed. Then the loader client will figure out what dependencies exist and load it all at once.
[12:44:21] <Krinkle>	 incl. minified and combined (check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Features if you want to know more about that)
[12:44:39] <Granjow>	 I read the ResourceLoader pages.
[12:45:02] <Krinkle>	 Essentially like it says on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader in more detail
[12:45:11] <Granjow>	 They give very little details about how to actually use it. As developer I'm not interested if it is minified and so on.
[12:45:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: blanking an article and starting from scratch causes malformations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51169 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[12:45:32] <Krinkle>	 section 1: Registering, start with that
[12:46:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Connecting wikitech.wikimedia.org user profiles with community metrics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51050  +comment (10qgil)
[12:46:22] <Granjow>	 The files in 'scripts', are they loaded in the order they are given?
[12:46:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: blanking an article and starting from scratch causes malformations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51169  +comment (10okeyes)
[12:46:34] <Krinkle>	 They are executed in the order they are given
[12:47:59] <Krinkle>	 Don't use it as your dependency list though, things used multiple times should be separate modules (e.g. don't list ../extensions/wikibaserepo/*/wikibase.RepoApi.js on top)
[12:48:05] <Krinkle>	 otherwise it'll load the same file twice
[12:48:58] <Krinkle>	 Check any of the popular Wikipedia-used mediawiki extensions as example if you like (Vector, ArticleFeedbackv5, WikiLove, Echo, WikiEditor) though some of those have very large modules, the principle is the same
[12:49:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10esanders)
[12:49:39] <Krinkle>	 http://codepad.org/KVJ6dqtg is actually very much on the right track, you just made a wrong turn at the end.
[12:50:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10krinklemail)
[12:51:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Incorrect spelling for Odia ULS typing layouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51010  +comment (10psubhashish)
[12:51:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: blanking an article and starting from scratch causes malformations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51169  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[12:54:07] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: Hi. An Mw update sometime between jan and now broke a gadget apparently due to the presence of BOMs on the Mediawiki page. Should this be filed as a bug?
[12:54:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10krinklemail)
[12:54:55] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: I have no idea
[12:55:36] <Krinkle>	 Seems Parser or Localization related
[12:55:54] <Krinkle>	 You can always a file a bug and people will figure out if it is a bug or not
[12:56:27] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: its prob parser as the js error is a Parser exception
[12:56:40] <Krinkle>	 what js error?
[12:57:06] <Sid-G>	 Exception thrown by ext.gadget.Twinkle: JavaScript parse error: Parse error: Illegal token in file 'MediaWiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js' on line 315 
[12:57:38] <Sid-G>	 there's be no change in the gadget code
[12:58:04] <Krinkle>	 So the BOM is in your code?
[12:58:11] <Sid-G>	 yes
[12:58:24] <Sid-G>	 but the parser was ok with it back in jan
[12:58:30] <Sid-G>	 now it throws an exception
[12:58:34] <Krinkle>	 This is the browser parsing it, not mediawiki
[12:59:14] <Sid-G>	 u sure about that?
[12:59:48] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Well, it's a combination of things
[13:00:30] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: please do explain
[13:00:31] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: To avoid a syntax error from a gadget to screw up code from unrelated other modules (since they are all combined/packaged up in the same load.php js script), because of that we do syntax checking for user scripts on the server side
[13:00:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) fail to create "searchindex" with mysql and db collation = "binary" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23694  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[13:00:36] <Krinkle>	 I am writing
[13:01:05] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: Try with ?debug=true, that will bypass the server-side parsing of javascript
[13:01:09] <Krinkle>	 and deliver it directly
[13:01:12] <Krinkle>	 does the error happen still?
[13:01:27] <Sid-G>	 tried, the error still happens
[13:01:47] <Krinkle>	 If not, then it means our server-side syntax validator is too strict. Possible, but strange, since that one hasn't changed for over a year
[13:01:51] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Okay. Now how can I run my JavaScript code when the document is loaded? $.ready() never happens.
[13:01:55] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: What is the error this time?
[13:02:07] <Sid-G>	 same as before
[13:03:23] <Sid-G>	 Krinkle: So this means that the browsers have become stricter since then?
[13:03:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't view history of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51168  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[13:04:18] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Or has the page content already been loaded when the .js code is loaded? Thats not documented either.
[13:04:39] <Krinkle>	 Sid-G: I'm not sure
[13:04:57] <Krinkle>	 either that, or somehow MediaWiki is now (or is no more) doing something centrally with BOM characters
[13:05:20] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: $.ready() never happens?
[13:05:37] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: $.ready() always happens, if you call it too late it will just trigger immediately
[13:05:50] <Krinkle>	 If it doesn't, then you somehow broke jQuery
[13:05:56] <Krinkle>	 Can you do another code paste?
[13:07:21] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: http://codepad.org/P8itKAw6
[13:07:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't view history of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51168  +comment (10ragesoss)
[13:07:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't view history of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51168  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[13:07:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) View history gives fatal error after new edit to course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49971  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[13:08:52] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Don't call $.ready(), ever.
[13:09:04] <Krinkle>	 Those aren't the droids you're looking for ;-)
[13:09:22] <Krinkle>	 $.ready is the internal method to trigger the event (or kill it, in your case)
[13:09:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) View history gives fatal error after new edit to course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49971  +comment (10ragesoss)
[13:09:37] <Krinkle>	 you're looking for jQuery.prototype.ready (the method, not the static utility)
[13:09:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) View history gives fatal error after new edit to course page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49971  (10Sage Ross)
[13:09:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) database query syntax error on course history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50740  (10Sage Ross)
[13:10:02] <Krinkle>	 in other words $(document) (creates an object) .ready ( function () { .. } )
[13:10:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: blanking an article and starting from scratch causes malformations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51169  +comment (10Chris McKenna)
[13:10:08] <Krinkle>	 or just $( Function ) for short
[13:10:54] <Krinkle>	 Look close to the examples on http://api.jquery.com/ready/
[13:10:59] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Oh lol. Right, works now.
[13:11:06] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ULS tooltip loads before Vector'scollapsible nav is applied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51170 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; ()
[13:11:15] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Yep, read a bit too quickly.
[13:11:31] <Krinkle>	 you happen to be speaking to somehow luckily with legs in both boats (I'm also a member of the jQuery Team)
[13:11:50] <Krinkle>	 It's a common mistake, that static method should probably have a different name
[13:12:18] <Krinkle>	 oh well, breaking changes, the fun kind :)
[13:13:59] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Nice :) Yes, that would make sense; on the other hand, it reminds to rtfm. And for the body content, is it guaranteed to be loaded when my script is loaded or not? (i.e. is it required to use the $.ready event?)
[13:15:37] <Krinkle>	 If logic in your script requires the document to be ready, you should declare that explicitly. Right now the script usually executes after the dom is already ready 'enough', but you shouldn't rely on that since that's an implementation detail (we're actually thinking of changing to an asynchronous that will run simultanious to while "the page is loading")
[13:16:35] <Elsie>	 qgil: wtf is a handler and why am I being spammed about it?
[13:16:39] <Elsie>	 Twice, no less.
[13:17:02] <Granjow>	 And, if I need jQuery to be loaded and put it into the dependencies, but also require wikibase.RepoApi which maybe itself requires jQuery, I have no other choice to perhaps load it a second time, right?
[13:17:06] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: You can (and should) be selective about what is wrapped in document-ready though. eg. you can define your objects/methods ahead of time, no need to defer that.
[13:17:11] <qgil>	 Elsie, hi, sorry for bothering you. Did you read the email?
[13:17:35] <Elsie>	 > Please help us identifying your
[13:17:35] <Elsie>	 multiple handlers at
[13:17:41] <Elsie>	 I still don't know what a handler is.
[13:18:02] <Krinkle>	 But things like $('#foobar') obviously need to the document to be there, but things like var myApp = { info: .. , doFoo: function () { $('#content').animate(..) } }; can be defined ahead of time, then you just call myApp.doFoo() from document-ready
[13:18:02] <qgil>	 yeah, sorry, it's handle 
[13:18:22] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: No, there's no need to do that.
[13:18:24] <qgil>	 it means your usernames, email addresses, etc
[13:18:31] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: ResourceLoader never loads the same thing twie
[13:18:35] <qgil>	 Elsie, have you seen the form?
[13:18:35] <Elsie>	 Heh.
[13:18:40] <Elsie>	 Yeah, I'm looking now.
[13:18:48] <Elsie>	 "Tell Google every IRC nick you've ever used."
[13:18:49] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Ah, then I got something wrong before.
[13:18:50] <Elsie>	 No thanks!
[13:19:03] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: That's why we want you to separate distinct modules so that we can identify them as a collection on its own and know when it is already loaded (or about to be loaded) and won't load it again
[13:19:05] <qgil>	 Elsie, never mind, then.
[13:19:08] <Elsie>	 :-)
[13:19:20] <Elsie>	 I'm not upset or anything.
[13:19:34] <qgil>	 Elsie, you can send me that via email if you want.
[13:19:55] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: Also, "jquery" (not plugins, but the core library itself) can't/shouldn't be used as a dependency since the loader library itself uses jQuery as well, so it is always there by design.
[13:19:56] <Elsie>	 I'm not really looking sign up to be tracked by some new WMF program.
[13:20:15] <Krinkle>	 those are the 2 only things you may rely on uncondionally ($ and mw)
[13:20:35] <qgil>	 Elsie, then you don need to worry about this.  :)
[13:20:41] <Elsie>	 Well, I might!
[13:20:47] <Elsie>	 It looks like it'll be tracking me regardless.
[13:20:53] <Elsie>	 I've open 394 bugs, allegedly.
[13:20:56] <Elsie>	 opened, rather.
[13:21:05] <Krinkle>	 Elsie: Lol, I actually thought about you when I read that in the google form for korma
[13:21:15] <Elsie>	 :-)
[13:21:16] <Krinkle>	 I was like, yeah, right, that's not going to happen
[13:21:42] <Elsie>	 I honestly couldn't even tell you what every IRC nick has been. I just try to avoid dupes at this point.
[13:21:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ULS tooltip loads before Vector's collapsible nav is applied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51170  summary (10Nemo)
[13:21:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blank page in Opera due to document.write which can be triggered by calling mw.using from top queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50746  summary (10Niklas Laxström)
[13:22:02] <Krinkle>	 I'm not sure where it'll be used for, but it is probably unreliable. We should probably identify by nickserv identifier or hostname cloak. Those are identifiable and verifiable
[13:22:31] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: Ok. CSS files are also loaded in the order they are given?
[13:22:44] <qgil>	 Elsie, if you are interested: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics
[13:22:45] <Elsie>	 Well, not to be hyperbolic or anything, but before we go all PRISM and create a giant database of this, it'd be nice to have a use-case.
[13:22:56] <Elsie>	 "metrics"!
[13:22:57] <Krinkle>	 Granjow: They are evaluated in the correct order, they can be loaded asynchronously
[13:23:16] <Elsie>	 I'm not sure anyone wants IRC metriced.
[13:23:18] <qgil>	 Elsie, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_metrics#Problems_we_want_to_solve
[13:23:23] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: aye.
[13:24:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ULS tooltip loads before Vector's collapsible nav is applied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51170  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:29:33] <Elsie>	 > The ownership of this project will transition to the Wikimedia Analytics team during 2013-14.
[13:29:45] <Elsie>	 Wikimedia has an analytics team?
[13:29:45] <Elsie>	 What do they do?
[13:30:00] <Krinkle>	 he, [[RL/F]] missing a C but almost sounds CRLF
[13:30:27] <Elsie>	 <analytics> Kraken!!!!!!!
[13:34:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support transitive properties in SPARQL queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50911  (10denny vrandecic)
[13:34:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support transitive properties in SPARQL queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50911  normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic)
[13:35:33] <YuviPanda>	 Elsie: which project?
[13:35:38] <YuviPanda>	 oh, community metrics
[13:36:32] <Elsie>	 YuviPanda: Right.
[13:36:38] <Elsie>	 Because the analytics team is so robust and capable, heh.
[13:36:42] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[13:36:45] <Elsie>	 "How many people viewed this page?"
[13:37:28] <Elsie>	 Blergh.
[13:38:43] <YuviPanda>	 affiliation is 'nebulous'
[13:38:43] <YuviPanda>	 bleh
[13:46:46] <Granjow>	 Krinkle: added http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#JavaScript
[13:51:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikimedia public key list needs moving from singer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38384  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[13:53:18] <Granjow>	 If I want to use caching for my extension (I have a DB query that takes several seconds, but need to load it often), do I have to do it all by myself or is there a better way?
[13:54:03] <Reedy>	 !wg Memc | Granjow
[13:54:03] <wm-bot>	 Granjow: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMemc
[13:54:14] <Reedy>	 helpful
[13:54:41] <Granjow>	 Reedy: does not exist?
[13:54:54] <Elsie>	 !wg Memcached
[13:54:55] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMemcached
[13:54:55] <Reedy>	 Yeah, and I've no idea why
[13:55:03] <Reedy>	 nope
[13:55:17] <Elsie>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMemCachedServers
[13:55:18] <Elsie>	 Heh.
[13:55:28] <Reedy>	 !cache
[13:55:28] <wm-bot>	 General information about caches can be seen at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache>, for configuration settings see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Cache>
[13:55:49] <Granjow>	 thanks!
[13:55:56] <Reedy>	 Seriosusly, why the hell doesn't https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMemc go somewhere?
[13:55:59] <Elsie>	 !perf
[13:55:59] <wm-bot>	 <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast> <http://mituzas.lt/2007/01/26/mediawiki-performance-tuning/>
[13:56:09] <Elsie>	 Reedy: Because you're the worst.
[13:56:15] <dMaggot>	 hi, I posted this y'day but got no replies
[13:56:28] <dMaggot>	 I cannot log into gerrit using my account for wmflabs
[13:57:13] <dMaggot>	 sorry, my account for https://wikitech.wikimedia.org
[13:58:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10gigs)
[14:00:14] <Reedy>	 dMaggot: Have you tried to reset your password? What error are you getting?
[14:00:33] <dMaggot>	 Reedy: I actually think this was because I reset my password at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org
[14:00:40] <dMaggot>	 Reedy: the error is invalid username/password
[14:05:07] <Granjow>	 thanks for all the help! later!
[14:11:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540  +comment (10Eduard.Braun2)
[14:11:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add option to ApiQueryRevisions to do the pre-save transform on rvdifftotext before diffing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51155   +easy; summary; +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[14:22:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add option to ApiQueryRevisions to do the pre-save transform on rvdifftotext before diffing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51155  +comment (10contact)
[14:24:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Create "wikimetrics" component in "Analytics" Bugzilla product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51171 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; ()
[14:26:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) OpenSearch API for Wikidata returns no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51172 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[14:27:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) OpenSearch API for Wikidata returns no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51172  normal->major (10denny vrandecic)
[14:33:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10esanders)
[14:35:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) OpenSearch API for Wikidata returns no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51172  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:37:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mw.loader "ready" mode is wrong when called from a $.fn.ready handler bound before mediawiki.js loads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31895  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:40:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support unicode equivalence for client side text searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50167  +comment (10david)
[14:41:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983  +comment (10addshorewiki)
[14:43:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) <nowiki/> added to wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51173 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:44:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HTTP request timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51096  +comment (10juandevojnikov)
[14:46:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing templates makes wikilinks ([[Foo|Bar]]) render as raw wikitext instead of parsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50801  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:52:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: normalisation compressing templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51161  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[14:52:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[14:54:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10okeyes)
[14:56:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10gwicke)
[14:56:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10gwicke)
[14:57:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10okeyes)
[14:58:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "action=history&feed=" is an easy target for DOS attack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50886  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:00:05] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Scap broken for deploying new versions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51174 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[15:00:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scap broken for deploying new versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51174  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:03:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ResourceLoader: wfDebugLog should bypass wfIsDebugRawPage() filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47960  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:04:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ResourceLoader: wfDebugLog should bypass wfIsDebugRawPage() filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47960  +comment (10krinklemail)
[15:04:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  +comment (10gwicke)
[15:04:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-rendered transclusion of blocks comes back as wikitext, not HTML (eww) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49854  +comment (10Maggie Dennis)
[15:06:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes to avoid corrupting templates' whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150  normal->major; summary (10James Forrester)
[15:07:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Re-rendered transclusion of blocks comes back as wikitext, not HTML (eww) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49854  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:09:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) template formatting complicates diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51175 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:12:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Single click on upper right of template opens template editor; can this be a double-click? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51176 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:17:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:NewPagesFeed error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50622  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[15:17:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Blank page in Opera due to document.write which can be triggered by calling mw.using from top queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50746  +comment (10matma.rex)
[15:17:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Link saving process clarification request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51177 enhancement; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:17:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156  +comment (10gwicke)
[15:18:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links are not shown as redlinks when their target is blank (or as 'stub-alternate-colour' if appropriate) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37901  +comment (10inez)
[15:20:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links are not shown as redlinks when their target is blank (or as 'stub-alternate-colour' if appropriate) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37901  +comment (10gwicke)
[15:21:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) All MobileFrontend Jenkins jobs that run Selenium tests are failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46922  (10Željko Filipin)
[15:23:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) fix Login method for test2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50130  (10Željko Filipin)
[15:23:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "action=history&feed=" is an easy target for DOS attack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50886  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:24:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid sometimes wraps images in an mwPlaceholder (causing the images to be uneditable) - optimisation bug? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51039  +comment (10gwicke)
[15:24:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: not showing new categories on reload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50737  +comment (10Maggie Dennis)
[15:24:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) veaction parameter is not passed by special page redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51178 minor; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; ()
[15:28:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Print helpful 'your API is not reachable' message instead of TypeError: Cannot set property '0' of null at Object.WikiConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51151  summary; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[15:34:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: not showing new categories on reload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50737  +comment (10James Forrester)
[15:34:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Category changing in page doesn't cause footer to be updated on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48560  +comment (10jforrester)
[15:35:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Re-enable user preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51179 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[15:38:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API Listredirects results should contain target/to title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50981  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[15:38:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable user preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51179  (10MZMcBride)
[15:39:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Hidden feedback posts remain visible in Special:Log/articlefeedbackv5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50605  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:40:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable user preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51179  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:40:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable user preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51179  +comment (10b)
[15:40:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VipsScaler test page should strip File: prefix from filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[15:42:36] <bawolff>	 greg-g: woo, does that mean vips is actually happening?
[15:43:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Hidden feedback posts remain visible in Special:Log/articlefeedbackv5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50605  +comment (10mmullie)
[15:46:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Re-enable user preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51179  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:46:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) User preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50929  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:47:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) User preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50929  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:49:03] <greg-g>	 bawolff: yeppers! :)
[15:49:03] <greg-g>	 bawolff: (finally)
[15:49:29] <bawolff>	 I look forward to being able to scale absurdly large png files :P
[15:51:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) User preference to disable VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50929  +comment (10Eduard.Braun2)
[15:51:58] <greg-g>	 bawolff: oh hellz yeah :)
[15:53:09] <bawolff>	 hmm, I could probably fix the issue with the input field pretty quickly
[21:18:43] <Rahul21>	 bawolff: hello
[21:18:47] <bawolff>	 Hi, sorry I'm kind of away right now
[21:18:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Logging out on a different device logs me out elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49890  +comment (10csteipp)
[21:20:02] <Rahul21>	 bawolff: oh no problem
[21:20:09] <bawolff>	 I'll be back in about an hour
[21:20:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor shows 6 items in a list which for which MW only generates 2 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51200 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[21:24:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor shows 6 items in a list which for which MW only generates 2 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51200  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[21:28:05] <Aaron|home>	 *cough*
[21:33:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: image resizing causing implosion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50651  +comment (10Technical 13)
[21:35:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: easier parameter selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51165  +comment (10Elitre)
[21:37:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image insertion dialog shows thumbnails twice in non-English context (possibly due to repeated results under File: and Datei:?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50158  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:38:36] <orion>	 Hi. Is there a way I can disable the password reset feature? I want to 100% eliminate all outgoing emails.
[21:39:42] <du7ed>	 i have some users on my wiki that have made a bunch of pages like Software:Portal, Software:Install, Software:FAQ, etc. I want to add make a namespace called Software and when I do that it orphans all the pages inside of it and 'deletes' the Software:Portal page. If I remove the custom namespace, the Software:Portal page comes back. What should I do here...
[21:39:54] <liangent>	 orion: can't you just $wgEnableEmail = false;
[21:40:28] <liangent>	 du7ed: namespaceDupes.php
[21:40:33] <liangent>	 !maintenance
[21:40:34] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !adminsettings, !createandpromote, !MediaWiki:double-redirect-fixed-maintenance, !MediaWiki:filedelete-maintenance, !MediaWiki:filedelete-maintenance-title, !MediaWiki:specialpages-group-maintenance, !shell, !sitemap, !tables.sql, 
[21:41:02] <orion>	 liangent: Nope, that doesn't work.
[21:41:02] <liangent>	 du7ed: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NamespaceDupes.php
[21:41:05] <du7ed>	 for full disclosure, I am attempting to use the Lockdown plugin to lock that Software group of pages only to the Software user group.
[21:41:07] <du7ed>	 $wgExtraNamespaces[100] = 'Software'; $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[100]['read'] = array('Software');
[21:41:08] <du7ed>	 like that.
[21:41:12] <orion>	 Meaning, it still allows anonymous users to send password reset.
[21:41:16] <orion>	 resets
[21:41:50] <liangent>	 orion: hmm does it still send out mails even if you disable it?
[21:42:23] <orion>	 correct
[21:47:52] <liangent>	 du7ed: you need to run namespaceDupes.php after adding a new namespace
[21:48:04] <du7ed>	 liangent: ok i ran that maintenance script but I still don't see any content in any of the pages
[21:48:20] <liangent>	 orion: it sounds like some bug for me. though setting $wgPasswordResetRoutes should be able to disable that feature.
[21:48:52] <liangent>	 du7ed: did you really "run" it?
[21:48:55] <liangent>	 ie with --fix
[21:50:15] <du7ed>	 liangent: nope. cheers! :)
[21:50:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:PasswordReset doesn't respect $wgEnableEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51201 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; ()
[21:51:13] <liangent>	 orion: ^
[21:51:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:PasswordReset doesn't respect $wgEnableEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51201  (10Liangent)
[21:52:50] <orion>	 Thank you.
[21:54:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Draw shields using SVG polygons and getClientRect(s) for inline/block items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51202 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[21:58:23] <orion>	 hmm
[21:58:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Performance: Remove token caching and -cloning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51203 normal; Parsoid: token-stream transforms; ()
[21:58:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Performance: Remove token caching and -cloning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51203  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[21:59:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Click in Search field makes page go white - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51204 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[22:00:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update securepoll documentation on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49843  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[22:03:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  +comment (10matma.rex)
[22:03:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574  +comment (10umar.dagirov)
[22:05:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add filtering input for gadgets to easily find them in Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51147  +comment (10egil)
[22:05:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Draw shields using SVG polygons and getClientRect(s) for inline/block items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51202  +comment (10inez)
[22:07:15] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: he isn't ;)
[22:07:43] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: it still felt like a good opportunity to point out how dumb en.wp is. :P
[22:07:53] <Nemo_bis>	 :DD
[22:08:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[22:08:18] <Nemo_bis>	 carpe diem!
[22:08:38] <Nemo_bis>	 and true, I served it on a silver dish on purpose
[22:09:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) TemplateData: support right-click on page titles and different formatting for disambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51205 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[22:10:08] <Nemo_bis>	 * handed on a silver platter – that seems the correct translation
[22:14:46] <orion>	 hmm
[22:14:55] <orion>	 There seems to be an undocumented right: passwordreset
[22:15:19] <Reedy>	 !bug 1 | orion
[22:15:19] <wm-bot>	 orion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=1+%7c+orion
[22:15:27] <Reedy>	 stupid thing
[22:15:45] <Nemo_bis>	 orion: undocumented how
[22:15:58] <orion>	 It's not in the manual.
[22:16:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make enhanced recentchanges the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35785  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[22:16:22] <orion>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights_management#List_of_permissions
[22:16:33] <Nemo_bis>	 the user right?
[22:16:38] <orion>	 yes
[22:16:47] <Nemo_bis>	 "passwordreset" is also the name of a special page and a system message
[22:17:01] <Nemo_bis>	 iirc + who knows how many other things.. be precise :P
[22:17:14] <orion>	 Yes: passwordreset the user right.
[22:17:19] <Nemo_bis>	 the list of permissions in the manual is totally useless and not to be trusted
[22:17:32] <orion>	 :o
[22:18:12] <Nemo_bis>	 using Special:ListGrouprights is better in 98 % of the cases, what are you interested in?
[22:18:17] <mutante>	 probably caused by lack of permission to edit the manual 
[22:18:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Preview content visible through editor chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51069  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:18:50] <orion>	 I was trying to block users from resetting their passwords, but now it appears that the 'passwordreset' user right is not what I am looking for.
[22:20:25] <mutante>	 why do you not want that feature?
[22:20:34] <orion>	 Because I don't have email access.
[22:20:35] <mutante>	 just curious
[22:20:43] <mutante>	 ah
[22:20:53] <orion>	 Also... the passwordreset right does not show up in Special:ListGroupRights
[22:22:15] <orion>	 Can anyone confirm?
[22:22:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE prohibits saving drag-and-drops because it does not consider rearranged text a change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50643  (10JohnCD67)
[22:23:22] <mutante>	 orion: maybe this helps  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16893589/prevent-user-from-changing-their-passwords-in-mediawiki
[22:24:19] <mutante>	 doesn't seem to be a thing you can just turn on/off with a single config var, maybe it should
[22:26:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:27:29] <orion>	 mutante: Are you able to confirm that there is no passwordreset right listed in ListGroupRights?
[22:28:41] <Reedy>	 it's not given by default
[22:29:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Disable drag-and-drop of non-media content in Firefox until we support that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50643  normal->minor; summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[22:29:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981  (10James Forrester)
[22:29:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:30:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Translated title of the spaces in the Chechen language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51206 normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; ()
[22:32:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Chechen Wikipedia: Translation of namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47574  +comment (10umar.dagirov)
[22:32:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some more extension to bundle with the 1.21 tarball/installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43815  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:36:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update e-mailaddress of account "CommonsDelinker" (on centralauth and/or commonswiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51016  +comment (10krinklemail)
[22:38:02] <odder>	 MatmaRex: an interesting post on -ambassadors
[22:39:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update e-mailaddress of account "CommonsDelinker" (on centralauth and/or commonswiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51016  +comment (10krinklemail)
[22:43:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Show VisualEditor tag in diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49602  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:52:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Click in Search field makes page go white - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51204  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[22:52:53] <thefinn93>	 is there a way to list all non-blocked users?
[22:53:28] <thefinn93>	 i left a wiki alone for a bit, not it's full of spam users, i banned most of em but i think there's stil a few i missed
[23:02:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) red notification number not clearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48568  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[23:05:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Fatal error: Call to undefined method Solarium_Result_Update::numRows in solrupdate.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51207 major; MediaWiki extensions: GeoData; ()
[23:11:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Invalid token" message after period of inactivity leads to lost work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50424  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:12:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Click in Search field makes page go white - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51204  +comment (10mpinchuk)
[23:13:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: Auto-external links to image files display the image inline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51092  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[23:15:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Returnto page-save-success events not being logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51208 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; ()
[23:22:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Invalid token" message after period of inactivity leads to lost work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50424  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:23:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Preview content visible through editor chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51069  (10Jon)
[23:24:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Preview content visible through editor chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51069  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:31:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Editor doesn't retain my position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51209 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[23:32:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Logging broken for GettingStarted (page-save-success logged as page-impression) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50204  summary (10Matthew Flaschen)
[23:36:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bottom bar with summary input field jumps down (editor) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51067  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:38:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) moving a page with suppressredirect produces misleading message "A redirect has been created" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45348  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[23:38:51] <Thehelpfulone>	 Krenair, do you know how to fix that ^ ?
[23:41:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend: 'Logged in as X' alert has weird appearance and shows up inconsistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50699  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:42:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:42:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[23:45:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unclosed formatting elements not properly encapsulated when leaking out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50536  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:47:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bottom bar with summary input field jumps down (editor) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51067  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:49:43] <Aaron|home>	 Error: Unrecognized value for parameter 'paction': save
[23:49:46] * Aaron|home  sighs

[23:49:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Draw shields using SVG polygons and getClientRect(s) for inline/block items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51202  summary (10James Forrester)
[23:50:19] * Aaron|home  justs uses "edit source"

[23:52:13] <MatmaRex>	 Aaron|home: #mediawiki-visualeditor
[23:52:22] <James_F>	 What?
[23:52:31] <James_F>	 Aaron|home: Something broken?
[23:52:36] <Aaron|home>	 mw.org
[23:53:53] <James_F>	 Aaron|home: Argh. Thanks.
[23:55:14] <James_F>	 Aaron|home: Hard-refresh your JS and it'll be fine. Roan apologises on behalf of ResourceLoader.