[00:21:26] 03(NEW) Parsoid doesn't insert a newline before a template-generated list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51210 normal; Parsoid: serializer; () [00:21:59] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51050 [00:22:13] are males also allowed to fill out the form? [00:22:55] odder: Nope [00:23:05] I thought so [00:23:19] Part of the OPW programme, we're disallowing men from using the software for a week. :trollface: [00:24:00] Oh, I guess I can wait then [00:24:01] 03(mod) Parsoid doesn't insert a newline before a template-generated list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51210 (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:24:24] maybe they will be able to figure out how to take part in this without giving my private information to Google [00:24:55] odder: I doubt it [00:32:08] I want to dump all the information a variable has in mediawiki like $page which typeof EditPage [00:32:30] can someone suggest me a better alternative than var_export [00:34:41] better how? [00:34:52] var_export give error [00:35:00] when there is recursive definitions [00:35:11] which is? [00:35:28] like $a od typeof cLass A has a object of class B [00:35:35] $a->$b [00:36:03] and now $b has an object of class A let;s call this attriburte as $c [00:36:39] so it is like $a->b->c and c is typeof class A [00:36:57] then var_export will give a nested level too deep error [00:37:50] print_r and var_dump take this thing into account, but they dump the information on html page rather than return a string [00:38:14] json_encode returns a string which has no formatting hence too tough to read [00:42:38] 03(mod) Returnto page-save-success events not being logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51208 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:42:40] 03(mod) Logging broken for GettingStarted (page-save-success logged as page-impression) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50204 +comment (10mflaschen) [00:44:32] 03(mod) Logging broken for GettingStarted (page-save-success logged as page-impression) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50204 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [00:45:56] 03(NEW) Foster-parentable metas not about-marked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51211 normal; Parsoid: DOM; () [00:46:11] 03(mod) Foster-parentable metas not about-marked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51211 (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:47:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes to avoid corrupting templates' whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:48:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes to avoid corrupting templates' whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:48:57] hi, having some issues with my mediawiki: If i say "{{#invoke:String|len|countme}}" it will just output "len" on the page. I have scribunto installed and shows up in my special:version, is ther something else im missing? Any help appreciated! [00:53:55] Trunks: Are you trying to invoke http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#string.len from wikitext? [00:54:17] Trunks: I think you need to define Module:String on the wiki for that to work [00:57:41] marktraceur: i think you're right, "wiki/Module:String" shows nothing, but "wiki/Module:StringReplace" has content. How do I define Module:String? [00:58:05] 03(mod) Image provided with non-default (smaller) width/height in template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50523 +comment (10gwicke) [00:58:38] Trunks: By creating the page with the Lua you want to be there :) [01:02:14] marktraceur: what if they're imported pages? [01:02:31] Trunks: Module:String ? [01:02:54] 03(mod) Parsoid sometimes wraps images in an mwPlaceholder (causing the images to be uneditable) - optimisation bug? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51039 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:02:56] 03(mod) Images: Handle http errors + missing image errors in LinkHandler image handling code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48900 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:03:12] 03(mod) Parsoid doesn't serialize

s in

s correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51087 (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:07:18] marktraceur: oh wait, ur telling me to create the Module:String page myself? but if it's not there doesnt it mean something went wrong with the import or extension installations and there's probably other things broken? [01:08:11] Trunks: From where are you importing the pages? [01:08:49] 03(mod) Parsoid unable to parse news:// like URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51100 +comment (10gwicke) [01:10:31] marktraceur: from a wikipedia dump, imported with mwimport perl script [01:11:05] Trunks: Then yeah, Module:String exists there, so maybe something went wrong [01:11:10] 03(mod) Parsoid unable to parse news:// like URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51100 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:12:58] marktraceur: any way I can repair it now? or does it have to be a new import? [01:16:03] marktraceur: i noticed im also missing "Lua" and "LuaSandbox" under Installed Software when I hit "Special:Version", the instructions I followed from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lua only adds it to the Parser Hooks section. Could this be the problem? [01:16:15] Hmmm. [01:16:27] Trunks: Yeah that sounds imperfect [01:17:42] 03(mod) Proper AJAX rollback functionality in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31270 +comment (10Helder) [01:18:30] marktraceur: did I mess up the installation from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lua or is there something else I gotta do to have mediawiki recognize it as an Installed Software? [01:18:53] Rasel160: Reviewed your patch [01:19:07] 03(mod) AutoLoader adds $IP to network share path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44953 (10michael) [01:19:13] Trunks: Did you install Scribunto? [01:19:42] 03(mod) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:20:05] marktraceur: yup, it shows up in Installed extensions under Parser hooks [01:21:07] marktraceur: thanks, looking through it now [01:21:30] K, that's good [01:24:31] Trunks: I dunno why your import didn't work, but importing the module manually would probably work [01:32:41] 03(mod) Messing up Math formulas - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50938 +comment (10CBM) [01:32:42] 03(mod) Parsoid: Round-tripping error on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50291 +comment (10CBM) [01:34:27] marktraceur: would u happen to kno if hte mwimport script is still valid? [01:34:45] I have no idea [01:34:47] !import [01:34:47] To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [01:34:56] !importsources [01:34:56] For information on configuring interwiki page imports, please refer to [01:35:02] Trunks: ^^ [01:35:17] marktraceur: nice, thanks! [01:35:52] *nod* [01:37:52] marktraceur: sorry one more thing, how do i import the module manually? Can't seem to find instructions on it [01:38:12] Trunks: Copying the source to the page should do it [01:39:05] marktraceur: kk ty! [01:47:19] 03(NEW) libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51212 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [01:47:25] 03(NEW) Please upload video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51213 normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; () [01:48:14] 03(mod) Please upload video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51213 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:48:40] 03(mod) Please upload video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51213 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:53:57] 03(mod) Please upload video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51213 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:55:51] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method Solarium_Result_Update::numRows in solrupdate.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51207 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:55:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a tool to insert a talk signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51154 summary (10James Forrester) [01:55:57] 03(mod) Please upload video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51213 +comment (10russavia.wikipedia) [01:56:20] 03(mod) Update e-mailaddress of account "CommonsDelinker" (on centralauth and/or commonswiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51016 +comment (10sam) [02:07:21] 03(mod) Job queue on English Wikipedia is "empty", but also seems not to be running - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51163 +comment (10sam) [02:40:44] 03(NEW) m.wikimediafoundation.org redirects to wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51214 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [02:43:07] 03(mod) guider shows pointing arrow when attachTo element isn't present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50851 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:43:41] 03(mod) guider shows pointing arrow when attachTo element isn't present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50851 (10Matthew Flaschen) [02:43:52] 03(mod) Job queue on English Wikipedia is "empty", but also seems not to be running - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51163 +comment (10MZMcBride) [03:00:44] 03(mod) Job queue on English Wikipedia is "empty", but also seems not to be running - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51163 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:00:44] 03(mod) SiteStats shows 0 for job queues not using database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50635 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:00:53] 03(mod) Implement "active watchers" count into MediaWiki's info action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49506 +comment (10WhatamIdoing) [03:01:48] 03(mod) On mobile, wikivoyage.org redirects to www.m.wikivoyage.org which does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48318 +comment (10nicolas.raoul) [03:11:16] 03(mod) Print helpful 'your API is not reachable' message instead of TypeError: Cannot set property '0' of null at Object.WikiConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51151 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:11:27] 03(mod) Print helpful 'your API is not reachable' message instead of TypeError: Cannot set property '0' of null at Object.WikiConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51151 +easy (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:11:40] 03(mod) Parsoid unable to parse news:// like URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51100 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:12:47] 03(mod) Default whitespace for block templates should be to have a \n beforehand - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50166 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:14:03] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: page warning messages doesnt include log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51215 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [03:14:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Allow users to set/edit #REDIRECT status in the page metadata panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47328 +easy (10James Forrester) [03:14:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protected page warning messages are missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50415 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [03:14:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: page warning messages doesnt include log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51215 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [03:16:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Protected page warning message should include log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51215 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [03:19:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Invalid token" message after period of inactivity leads to lost work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50424 (10James Forrester) [03:19:48] 03(mod) Botfixup: VisualEditor shows 6 items in a list which for which MW only generates 2 items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51200 summary; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:20:20] 03(mod) Image provided with non-default (smaller) width/height in template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50523 (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:29:14] 03(mod) Avoid timeouts on large articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51053 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:31:07] 03(mod) ParsoidCacheUpdateJob queues htmlCacheUpdate jobs on template edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51156 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [03:58:45] 03(NEW) Email role, useful for testing user signup, notifications, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51216 enhancement; Tools: MediaWiki-Vagrant; () [03:59:04] 03(mod) Email role, useful for testing user signup, notifications, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51216 (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:59:28] 03(mod) Parsoid unable to parse news:// like URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51100 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:35:23] 03(NEW) Figure out a way to RT tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 normal; Parsoid: DOM; () [04:37:45] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 summary (10MZMcBride) [04:42:49] 03(NEW) Leading newlines in positional transclusion parameters should not be trimmed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51218 normal; Parsoid: token-stream transforms; () [04:43:01] 03(mod) Leading newlines in positional transclusion parameters should not be trimmed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51218 (10Gabriel Wicke) [04:43:39] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 (10ssastry) [04:48:24] 03(NEW) Content after table end tag is always serialized onto a new line (even when in original source, it is on the same line) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51219 normal; Parsoid: serializer; () [04:58:34] 03(mod) Parsoid: Round-tripping error on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50291 +comment (10Innocenti Maresin) [05:02:56] 03(mod) Vertical line ( | ) not showing in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51199 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [05:02:56] 03(mod) | (vertical bar) character is not accepted in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43136 +comment (10Nikola Smolenski) [05:22:36] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 +comment (10gwicke) [05:22:48] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:30:12] 03(mod) Parsoid unable to parse news:// like URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51100 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [05:58:11] 03(mod) Bottom bar with summary input field jumps down (editor) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51067 (10Jon) [05:58:49] 03(mod) MobileFrontend: 'Logged in as X' alert has weird appearance and shows up inconsistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50699 (10Jon) [06:04:28] Hi. I have a wiki which details a number of events that has happened throughout the history of our company. What is the best way to categorize these events so that it is easily searchable? [06:05:11] it depends on what they have in common and what they don't. [06:05:28] Do you make the pages members of both 'Category:July 2013' and 'Category:2013', or just the former? [06:08:35] depends also on what you expect your users to search for [06:08:46] orion, the normal convention would be just July 2013. [06:08:53] Then July 2013 would be a sub-category 2013. [06:09:00] Not everyone follows that, of course. [06:09:21] IMO a tree-like category system is the easiest to search [06:09:26] not necessarily the easiest to set up. [06:09:36] Right [06:09:55] 03(mod) Filter effect Gaussian blur filter not rendered correctly for small to medium thumbnail sizes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42090 (10This, that and the other) [06:11:54] Good idea! Thank you. [06:17:41] 03(mod) MobileFrontend images shown double-sized in Retina desktop, iOS 7 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49440 +comment (10Yu Watanabe) [06:24:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Hidden templates should display as an icon in-page so they can be interacted with (e.g. a puzzle piece?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49806 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [06:26:06] Is there a particularly fast way for me to create all these subcategories? [06:26:22] you can do it using a bot, but that's beyond my knowledge. [06:26:27] I need to do 120 months. :/ [06:26:38] Betacommand knows how to script these kinds of things. [06:28:35] 03(mod) | (vertical bar) character is not accepted in aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43136 (10pyfisch) [06:28:43] 03(mod) Print helpful 'your API is not reachable' message instead of TypeError: Cannot set property '0' of null at Object.WikiConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51151 +comment (10Steph) [06:35:10] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cut and Pasting an image that contains a section truncates all the formatting. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51220 major; VisualEditor: General; () [06:35:29] 03(mod) SiteStats shows 0 for job queues not using database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50635 +comment (10Nemo) [06:35:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut and Pasting a section that contains an image truncates all the sections formatting after pasting it. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51220 summary (10Excirial) [07:17:29] 03(mod) show number of property-values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44766 (10pyfisch) [07:17:43] 03(NEW) Deprecated logging used in OAuth extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51221 normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; () [07:17:44] 03(mod) Add Oauth support to Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30348 (10Siebrand) [07:43:16] 03(mod) ganglia.wmflabs.org is missing most projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51068 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [07:48:04] 03(mod) Section handling in Semantic Forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46662 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:49:04] If I were to download a dump of wikipedia in SQLs, current revisions, what files would I download? D: [07:49:07] I'm stuck [07:49:31] I downloaded like 8GB of the XML before realising that wikipedia distributes .SQLs as well ;_; [07:49:57] and I'm like "There's still time!" now that I hear SQL is distributed [07:53:36] .. nobody? D: [07:53:44] 03(mod) Loading a page which requires many fonts causes high CPU load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50836 +comment (10Michael M.) [07:53:50] what are you trying to do? [07:54:13] ori-l, well, sort of an offline copy of enwiki for my home [07:54:37] MariaDB and MediaWiki (of course) [07:54:51] .. on the LAN [07:54:57] if it's for reading-only, you might not need either [07:55:14] ori-l, really? [07:55:46] I'm wanting to have them on my PC that acts like a server so the other PCs don't need to keep it [07:56:06] https://offline-wiki.googlecode.com/git/app.html http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Main_Page http://www.wikitaxi.org/delphi/doku.php/products/wikitaxi/index http://owi.sourceforge.net/ http://www.labnol.org/software/download-wikipedia-offline/20012/ [07:56:31] damn.. [07:56:42] I blame documentation [07:56:43] ! [07:56:43] ok, you just typed an exclamation mark with no meaning in the channel, good job. If you want to see a list of all keys, check !botbrain [07:59:02] aww, snarky wm-bot [07:59:04] but it's only a bot [07:59:31] oh no, I was wanting to host it so others don't have to download it [07:59:48] offline-wikipedia looks like it hosts though [08:00:40] but I wanted to make it look like WP as well.. so.. [08:01:12] I think I'm supposed to download page.sql? But other than that, I've got no clue.. [08:02:30] .. or do I do all of them? [08:02:50] Would For an edit the old_id of table text and rev_id of revision will be always be equal ? [08:04:19] .. all of the .SQLs it is then! [08:04:35] .. I'm just gonna double-check at #wikipedia.. [08:14:47] Would For an edit the old_id of table text and rev_id of revision will be always be equal ? [08:33:13] Krinkle|detached: Thanks for the review! $var names are for jQuery objects? [08:34:58] 03(mod) Add css "onlyinprint" class to hide content from anything except print output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50750 +comment (10volker.haas) [08:36:07] Granjow: yep [08:40:23] ori-l: thanks :) [08:43:07] 03(mod) Add css "onlyinprint" class to hide content from anything except print output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50750 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [08:57:39] 03(NEW) ISBN in refs nowikied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51222 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [08:57:52] 03(NEW) Clicking link in e-mail notification sometimes opens page with "There are no threads on this page yet" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51223 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [08:58:21] 03(mod) Clicking link in e-mail notification sometimes opens page with "There are no threads on this page yet" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51223 +comment (10zfilipin) [08:59:02] 03(mod) Clicking link in e-mail notification sometimes opens page with "There are no threads on this page yet" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51223 +comment (10zfilipin) [08:59:34] 03(mod) Clicking link in e-mail notification sometimes opens page with "There are no threads on this page yet" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51223 +comment (10zfilipin) [09:12:35] How do I correctly access the Object Cache, i.e. store objects in it? [09:20:20] 03(mod) New QRpedia product (Bugzilla) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51020 +comment (10kelson) [09:23:34] Granjow: hm, there's a good example in Collation.php, line 349 onward [09:23:58] Granjow: basically you call wfGetCache() and then work with the BagOStuff object [09:29:52] 03(NEW) New page patrol button offered for own creations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51224 normal; MediaWiki: Patrolling; () [09:30:02] 03(mod) New page patrol button offered for own creations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51224 +code-update-regression (10Nemo) [09:37:03] MatmaRex: Thanks a lot! What is the difference between wfGetCache() and wfGetMainCache()? I'm using it to store the result of a long query (several seconds). [09:37:41] uh, i don't really know, sorry :/ [09:38:50] np :) Already works, very cool! Now I have to parse the history in order to find out whether the cache is still valid or not. [09:39:38] 03(NEW) Add GeoData to dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51225 normal; Datasets: General/Unknown; () [09:50:19] 03(NEW) There is an uneven amount of parenthesis: (): -1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51226 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [09:54:08] 03(mod) There is an uneven amount of parenthesis: (): -1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51226 (10Steinsplitter) [09:56:44] 03(mod) There is an uneven amount of parenthesis: (): -1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51226 +comment (10Nemo) [10:01:14] 03(NEW) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51227 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:01:30] 03(mod) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51227 normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic) [10:02:43] 03(NEW) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51228 normal; Wikimedia: Wikidata; () [10:02:45] 03(mod) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51227 (10denny vrandecic) [10:03:40] 03(mod) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51228 normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic) [10:25:27] 03(NEW) Pressing Tab on Transclusion list should select Template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51229 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [10:28:28] 03(NEW) Maps geocode and distance queries have died - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51230 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; () [10:39:38] 03(mod) Maps geocode and distance queries throw Catchable fatal error in MapsGeoFunctions::calculateDistance() called in SemanticResultFormats/Filtered/filters/SRF_FF_Distance.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51230 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:48:55] 03(mod) VisualEditor: adding spaces? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51024 +comment (10Thomas Bertels) [10:50:28] 03(mod) Translated title of the spaces in the Chechen language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51206 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:55:40] 03(NEW) Duplicate special pages with Special:Disambiguations and Special:DisambiguationPageLinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51231 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Disambiguator; () [10:57:34] 03(mod) On mobile, wikivoyage.org redirects to www.m.wikivoyage.org which does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48318 +comment (10aklapper) [11:00:33] 03(mod) m.wikimediafoundation.org redirects to wikimediafoundation.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51214 +shell; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:01:24] 03(mod) Special:PasswordReset doesn't respect $wgEnableEmail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51201 normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:01:37] 03(mod) Unpatrolled edits not removable from patrollable list when page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51189 (10Andre Klapper) [11:04:03] 03(mod) Add GeoData to dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51225 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [11:04:20] 03(mod) New QRpedia product (Bugzilla) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51020 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:05:24] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 (10Željko Filipin) [11:06:33] The text table contains all the page content, right? [11:07:34] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 (10Željko Filipin) [11:09:57] hi trying to work out a weird caching issue I'm trying to narrow down. I have some images that are not stored in the media wiki file namespace but instead I load from from the common.css page. Anyway I wanted to replace these but the wiki is still displaying them even though I refresh the browser. [11:10:11] I'm doing a hard refresh as well [11:11:14] So I get the old image not the new one [11:17:53] 03(mod) Deprecated logging used in OAuth extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51221 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:18:10] 03(mod) AbuseFilter's API do not return the filter id (but returns its name) for private filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51180 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [11:40:22] 03(mod) Collapse templates in editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28684 +comment (10mahitgar) [11:43:02] 03(mod) Automatically propose/suggest a category - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47492 +comment (10mahitgar) [11:47:49] solved it [11:51:37] andre__: can you add your Bugzilla office hours to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar please? [11:52:00] 03(mod) Purge for some thumbnails fails after re-uploading a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49362 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [11:53:30] 03(mod) wbeditentity removing aliases when used from javascript console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50983 (10Addshore) [11:57:42] 03(NEW) Creating uploaders group and limiting local upload to administrators and uploaders group for ckb wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51232 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; () [11:58:43] Granjow: Indeed, $foo is for jQuery objects, foo is for raw Node objects. It's a convention we've kept because the mistake is so common. [11:59:05] It is Hungarian notation in a way, though we only use it for jQuery objects. [11:59:39] Also mentioned on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CC/JS [11:59:45] #Naming [12:00:00] I've trimmed the document a bit to be shorter and more consise [12:02:24] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 +comment (10zfilipin) [12:06:00] thanks Krinkle! Will adapt this, makes sense. [12:06:07] adopt? [12:06:20] whatever :D [12:13:22] 03(mod) Compilation failed: regular expression is too large in ApiQueryExtracts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46581 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:14:40] Greetings! [12:15:12] Always I get the Main_page that's been displayed when i start mediawiki, I want someother page that should be displayed [12:15:14] how to do [12:16:34] any idea people, I just wanted some other page should be displayed at first than the main page [12:22:04] 03(mod) Add css "onlyinprint" class to hide content from anything except print output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50750 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [12:25:45] ponrajuganesh: edit [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] and put your page name there [12:28:33] oh okay liangent [12:30:30] 03(NEW) Special:PagesWithProp – error stiil present after the field disappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51233 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [12:31:10] odder, I could, but I'd like to keep it consistent and I don't see any other office hours listed there [12:31:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotations next to each other aren't necessarily the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49873 +comment (10esanders) [12:32:16] then perhaps start a new tradition [12:33:21] 03(mod) Special:PagesWithProp – error still present after the field disappear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51233 summary (10Ltrlg) [12:37:11] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: quotes around sub tags being removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51234 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [12:37:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: quotes around sub tags being removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51234 +comment (10okeyes) [12:39:09] 03(mod) Parsoid: Round-tripping error on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50291 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [12:39:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotations next to each other aren't necessarily the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49873 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [12:39:41] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: categories being stripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [12:54:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_cross_logo.png [12:54:33] that's weird. the size metadata doesn't seem to want to be purged... [13:03:20] 03(mod) Purge for some thumbnails fails after re-uploading a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49362 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [13:19:03] 03(mod) Specific thumbnail cannot be purged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47087 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:19:30] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: cite error in templates suppressed, rather than removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51236 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [13:19:33] 03(mod) 2000px thumbnail not deleted from (swift?) on action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44269 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:20:17] 03(mod) Purge for some thumbnails fails after re-uploading a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49362 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:23:20] 03(mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12396 +comment (10Quim Gil) [13:25:08] odder, what's the usecase? are office hours that much of an event that they should be in the calendar? I simply don't know myself, I guess it's just that I already have to add a few pages and would like to avoid yet another one :P [13:28:50] santhosh: hello [13:29:13] andre__: I guess that all events that encourage community feedback and participation are worthy of a wide announcement as possible [13:29:50] andre__: it's not like there's too much content in the calendar, it looks mostly empty to me [13:29:58] odder, I think if creating that "wideness" was more automated I'd be less reluctant to edit yet another wikipage :) [13:30:01] yeah, I agree [13:30:13] * andre__ looks at qgil to encourage adding stuff to the calendar :) [13:45:48] 03(mod) Enable strapping-mediawiki skin in mediawiki.org as optional & experimental - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47091 +comment (10qgil) [13:48:28] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Add the capacity for help pages in dialogues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51237 enhancement; VisualEditor: General; () [13:48:34] 03(NEW) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 normal; Parsoid: General; () [13:49:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Using up-arrow to scroll lets you put the cursor under the toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48787 +comment (10Axel Boldt) [13:54:07] 03(mod) added to existing content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50724 +comment (10James Forrester) [13:54:08] 03(mod) Nested s considered harmful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50835 +comment (10James Forrester) [13:54:15] 03(mod) Provide better access to keyboard mappings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42373 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:55:06] 03(mod) Add option to disable ULS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46306 +comment (10jayvdb) [13:57:52] anyone happen to know what could cause https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#connection_.C3.A0_mediawiki_impossible (warning: French)? [13:58:36] 03(mod) Template duplication on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50775 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [14:01:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: categories being stripped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [14:02:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotated element metadata inside wrapper paragraphs being discarded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 summary (10Ed Sanders) [14:02:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Suppression of Cite error in templates still paints a phantom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51236 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [14:06:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotated element metadata inside wrapper paragraphs being discarded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:07:40] 03(mod) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 +comment (10inez) [14:13:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Miscellaneous additions of nowiki tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50659 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [14:17:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: created, and meta-data removed, from [[Bah�'u'll�h]] on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50481 summary (10James Forrester) [14:19:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor should support the symbol insertion system from WikiEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38029 +comment (10Bill Skaggs) [14:23:20] 03(mod) Wrong ordering of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43238 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:25:09] 03(mod) Matching nowiki tags added with no wikimarkup (masked by selser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50758 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [14:28:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: is bubbling out of the {{efn}} template on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50383 normal->major; summary (10James Forrester) [14:38:31] 03(mod) Matching nowiki tags added with no wikimarkup (masked by selser) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50758 (10ssastry) [14:39:26] 03(mod) Update repo on page move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36729 +comment (10Aude) [14:41:51] Does anyone else here have major OCD when it comes to making typos and having them permanently logged forever? [14:42:00] It really bothers me, because my typos pollute my database. [14:42:08] Maybe I need to see a therapist. [14:51:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add the capacity for help pages in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51237 summary (10James Forrester) [14:56:27] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:01:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE/Parsoid (?) merging unnecessary annotations together (''foo''''bar'' -> ''foobar'') - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51234 summary (10James Forrester) [15:02:25] hello, is there a way to make the search use wildcards by default? ie. right now if i want to find, say, "mysearchterm" i can do it with "mysearch*", is it possible to make it so that it is found if i just search for "mysearch"? [15:03:49] Using the default MediaWiki search engine? [15:04:04] well, preferably [15:05:57] (FYI Wikipedia uses https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search, and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SphinxSearch is also sometimes considered better) [15:08:00] yeah ive seen those but they are both listed as beta, and i was hoping there was a config setting i couldn't find that just changes the default ;) [15:09:00] workingcats: most extensions used by Wikimedia are either beta or experimental ;) [15:09:17] Did you look in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Search_variables? [15:09:21] this generally means that you need at least the latest stable version of MediaWiki for them to work [15:09:54] MatmaRex, oh ok. well i have the latest stable (unless a new one was released in the last week) [15:09:54] you could, of course, patch it to add "*" to all search results... yuck [15:10:06] PiRSquared, dont think i've seen that one, lets have a look [15:10:12] yeah i considered that.. but it's yuck ;) [15:11:07] I don't think any of those will help [15:11:37] no i dont think so, i searched for "search" through the main page that has all the config parameters [15:12:41] do you happen to know if lucene would find "mysearchterm" if i search for "*term"? because default search seems to only handle trailing wildcards [15:13:15] I honestly don't know. But you can try searching for something like that on Wikipedia to test [15:13:23] d'oh, yes, cheers [15:13:39] I guess not, actually :( [15:14:07] Searching for "elativity" doesn't show "relativity" [15:14:50] hm it does for me [15:14:58] oh, good [15:14:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=*elativity&title=Special%3ASearch [15:15:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a GuidedTour for first-time VisualEditor users (ones for both newbies for and experienced editors?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50601 +comment (10Bill Skaggs) [15:15:35] I'm not really an expert on MediaWiki or searching, so I'll let someone else answer.. [15:15:54] well i guess i'll have a look how much work using lucene would be [15:16:08] 03(NEW) Create an tool for edit books(group of pages) that reduces the learning curve - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51239 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [15:16:21] have you considered some hack JS to add "*"? :P [15:16:33] if you don't want to patch the php [15:17:00] i dunno that seems dirty ;) [15:17:16] im trying not to do hackery unless its absolutely necessary [15:18:53] 03(mod) Update e-mailaddress of account "CommonsDelinker" (on centralauth and/or commonswiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51016 (10Krinkle) [15:22:19] 03(mod) Update e-mailaddress of account "CommonsDelinker" (on centralauth and/or commonswiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51016 (10Krinkle) [15:22:47] 03(NEW) Allow more structure in the navigation bar table of contents dropdown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51240 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [15:28:15] 03(NEW) Right arrow is still displayed on the last section of a book - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51241 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [15:29:34] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:30:11] 03(mod) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 +comment (10gwicke) [15:30:37] What is the correct way to download extensions after cloning the core git repo? There seems to be an extensions directory full of empty directories. [15:30:56] 03(mod) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 +comment (10inez) [15:32:51] nvm [15:35:30] 03(mod) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:36:45] 03(mod) Value of {{PAGENAME}} gets cached and it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51238 +comment (10inez) [15:39:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotations next to each other aren't necessarily the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49873 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:39:07] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and re-enable it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:39:44] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and re-enable it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:40:01] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and use it for new incoming content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 summary (10Gabriel Wicke) [15:41:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ctrl-Space to insert an NBSP, and a way to see the difference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51045 summary (10James Forrester) [15:44:53] 03(NEW) Support language variant selection at ULS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51242 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [15:46:17] 03(mod) Support language variant selection at ULS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51242 +i18n (10Pau Giner) [15:47:29] 03(mod) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51227 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:47:33] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: saved changes dialog appears, nothing was actually saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51243 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [15:49:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: saved changes dialog appears, nothing was actually saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51243 +comment (10elitre82) [15:53:36] !table recentchanges [15:53:36] For help on creating tables in wikitext, see and [15:53:41] grmbl. [15:53:46] !schema recentchanges [15:53:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [15:53:53] meh, dumb bot. [15:57:34] 03(mod) Armenian key mapping can be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50849 +comment (10xelgen.am) [16:14:44] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Images disappear if a is missing in the wikicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51244 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [16:14:50] 03(mod) Foster-parentable metas not about-marked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51211 (10ssastry) [16:17:10] 03(mod) Extend wb_terms with a terms_weight column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51228 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:17:10] 03(mod) WMF Schema Changes - Tracking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49188 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:17:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images disappear when the editor is loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51244 summary (10Helder) [16:18:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images disappear when the editor is loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51244 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [16:22:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images disappear when the editor is loaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51244 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:22:11] 03(mod) Images: Handle http errors + missing image errors in LinkHandler image handling code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48900 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:22:44] 03(mod) Images: Handle http errors + missing image errors in LinkHandler image handling code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48900 +comment (10jforrester) [16:22:51] should index.php?diff=1 give the first edit of the wiki? [16:24:37] Sid-G: for Wikipedia or another MediaWiki installation? [16:24:46] wikipedia [16:24:52] Which Wikipedia? [16:25:02] hi [16:26:54] Sid-G: diff=9245 seems to even be older than diff=1 :P [16:27:17] Imported revision? [16:27:18] ?!? [16:27:19] the early Wikipedias have a lot of weird bugs with old edits [16:27:34] even diff=4 is older [16:27:54] that's weird indeed [16:28:05] So is there a definitive way to find the first edit? [16:28:07] try https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विशेष:पुराने_पृष्ठ [16:28:32] actually, that won't help :S [16:28:32] hmm [16:28:36] Sid-G, first edit of which wiki? [16:28:47] Platonides: hi-wp [16:29:16] 11 july was the 10th anniversary so I'm trying to find the first edit [16:29:16] :D [16:29:17] * Platonides looks around for ^demon [16:29:26] maybe an edit by 127.0.0.1 [16:29:32] lol [16:29:36] Platonides: He was in the process of moving this week. So might be on holiday.. [16:29:42] Sid-G: actually, 127.0.0.1 has no edits there [16:29:49] is there a known bug about gerrit rejecting Change-Ids ? [16:30:08] but on lots of wikis localhost has the oldest non-imprted edit https://min.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istimewa:SuntiangPangguno/127.0.0.1 [16:31:47] 03(mod) TemplateData doesn't distinguish between explicit and implicit positional parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49743 +comment (10James Forrester) [16:32:02] Sid-G: you could download the DB and run queries on it :P [16:32:14] but it might be something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UUU [16:32:28] 03(NEW) Link MediaWiki styles and create Parsoid-specific styling to match MediaWiki's for differing DOM elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51245 normal; Parsoid: General; () [16:32:47] PiRSquared: With my connection it'd prob take another 10 yrs for the download [16:33:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Hidden templates should display as an icon in-page so they can be interacted with (e.g. a puzzle piece?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49806 +comment (10okeyes) [16:33:19] 03(mod) Link MediaWiki styles and create Parsoid-specific styling to match MediaWiki's for differing DOM elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51245 +comment (10gwicke) [16:33:24] 03(mod) Link MediaWiki styles and create Parsoid-specific styling to match MediaWiki's for differing DOM elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51245 (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:33:58] Sid-G: ask https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87 maybe he can help [16:34:07] anyways, strictly speaking, diff1 should be the oldest right? (even if it presently isn't) [16:34:49] not really [16:34:49] there could be older imported ones [16:35:03] but generally yes [16:35:23] oh [16:35:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?diff=1 is certainly not the oldest edit on enwiki [16:35:29] Sid-G, the page with oldestimestamp is https://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A0&oldid=4 [16:35:57] not counting imports it should be the oldest? [16:36:06] Sid-G: you said diff=4 too [16:36:15] Platonides: how did you get that? Query? [16:38:04] PiRSquared: yes, diff4 is older [16:44:34] 03(mod) Right arrow is still displayed on the last section of a book - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51241 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [16:44:35] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [16:44:37] 03(mod) Add navigation bar fallback for users who can't view images or have different CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50691 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [16:46:14] MatmaRex: need your help [16:46:23] yup? [16:51:18] !blame franny [16:51:18] Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. For everything else, there's `git blame`. [16:51:31] !technews is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News [16:51:31] Key was added [16:52:09] @trusted [16:52:10] I trust: petan\|w!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/..* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/MZMcBride (2admin), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@fsf/.* (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), .*@wikinews/bawolff (2admin), [16:53:12] del !technews [16:53:22] mh, what was it again [16:53:31] !technews del [16:53:31] Successfully removed technews [16:53:41] !technews is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News [16:53:42] Key was added [16:53:46] grrr [16:53:50] !technews del [16:53:50] Successfully removed technews [16:53:57] omg wa [16:54:12] !technews is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Latest [16:54:12] Key was added [16:54:20] !technews [16:54:20] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/Latest [16:56:04] 03(NEW) wm-bot on #wikimedia-dev slightly borked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51246 normal; Tools: WM-Bot; () [16:57:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: saved changes dialog appears, nothing was actually saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51243 +comment (10elitre82) [17:00:14] 03(mod) Special:NewPagesFeed intermittently fails on beta cluster; causes test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50622 summary (10Rob Lanphier) [17:02:20] 03(mod) Link MediaWiki styles and create Parsoid-specific styling to match MediaWiki's for differing DOM elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51245 +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [17:09:33] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and use it for new incoming content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 +comment (10wikimedia) [17:13:07] 03(NEW) #ask is case sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51247 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [17:15:53] 03(NEW) Visual Editor shows 4 images where there are only 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51248 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [17:16:14] 03(mod) Logging out on a different device logs me out everywhere else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49890 summary; +comment (10Jon) [17:16:23] 03(mod) Fix the appearance of wrapped text in the navigation bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51196 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:16:23] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:19:16] 03(NEW) Translation of Interface required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51249 trivial; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [17:19:49] 03(mod) Thumbnails that are "inline" should break paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47518 +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [17:20:03] 03(mod) Allow more structure in the navigation bar table of contents dropdown optionally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51240 summary (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:20:07] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:20:17] 03(NEW) Visual Editor adds an extra image when I edit the end of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51250 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [17:20:24] 03(mod) Logging out on a different device logs me out everywhere else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49890 +comment (10brion) [17:20:37] 03(mod) Allow metadata drop down to play nicely with RTL languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51195 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:20:37] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:21:04] 03(mod) Visual Editor adds an extra image when I edit the end of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51250 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [17:21:38] 03(mod) Localize the publication date in the metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51194 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:21:38] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:22:10] 03(mod) $wgMFLogEvents = false causes problems with EventLogging dependencies are present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50145 +comment (10Jon) [17:23:59] 03(mod) OpenSearch API for Wikidata returns no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51172 +comment (10brion) [17:25:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images' selection blocks can overlap the toolbar and prevent saving/etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49308 +comment (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:26:03] 03(mod) Clicking link in e-mail notification sometimes opens page with "There are no threads on this page yet" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51223 (10bsitu) [17:29:31] 03(mod) Move page metadata to head - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50882 +comment (10Quiddity) [17:32:26] 03(NEW) Install Notifications (Echo) on the Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51251 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [17:36:15] 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:39:20] 03(mod) Special:Notifications does not include links to diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51005 (10bsitu) [17:39:36] 03(mod) On mobile, wikivoyage.org redirects to www.m.wikivoyage.org which does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48318 +comment (10jalexander) [17:41:23] 03(mod) support dvwiki in beta labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50335 +comment (10cmcmahon) [17:44:45] 03(mod) EventLogging on the beta cluster should work well and match production (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49723 +comment (10jrobson) [17:45:16] 03(mod) Add namespace configuration variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51193 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:45:16] 03(mod) Populate metadata, chapterlist, and prev/next in navbar from the JSON structure. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50957 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:47:15] 03(mod) Allow pages that do not follow the "book/chapter name" syntax to be included in the navigation. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51187 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:47:15] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:47:16] 03(mod) Populate metadata, chapterlist, and prev/next in navbar from the JSON structure. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50957 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:47:49] 03(mod) Add "Developers" link to footer of Wikimedia wikis using WikimediaMessages extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33464 +comment (10Quim Gil) [17:48:06] qgil: hey, got a moment? [17:50:03] ahoy [17:50:04] 03(mod) Add view frontend to the JSON block on Book: pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50989 normal->minor (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:50:04] 03(mod) Create an tool for edit books(group of pages) that reduces the learning curve - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51239 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [17:50:38] can anyone recommend (an) extenion(s) to add meta keywords and description explicitly to pages? [17:50:44] hi rigid [17:51:06] there seem to be so many. I wonder if there are extensions hosted on gerrit & actively maintained [17:51:26] rigid: so, when you look at any extension on mediawiki.org you can see in the infobox on the right some links to the code repo [17:51:40] so it's easier to tell what is more maintained and what is not [17:51:54] You've already no doubt seen https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [17:52:23] 03(mod) Unintended job queue lag due to template null edits, API action=purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50785 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:52:39] sumanah: yep. i admit i'm a bit lazy and hoped for an answer like "use Extension:Foobar, everyone is using that" ;) [17:52:46] sumanah: but thanks anyway [17:53:00] * rigid gets his safari hat to hunt for extensions [17:53:35] 03(mod) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626 +comment (10Platonides) [17:54:12] i'm using WikiSEO right now, but it doesn't seem to work properly. It adds the meta tags correctly in the preview, but as soon as I save the changes, they are gone [17:54:26] even purging/clearing browser cache doesn't seem to help :( [17:55:19] Hello , I am facing difficulties in installing XAMPP oon Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [17:56:20] I have installed it but whenever I am trying to run localhost address , I get an Access Forbidden error [17:56:36] Please help me out. [17:57:13] good luck rigid and sorry I don't know more! [17:57:16] !lists | rigid [17:57:16] rigid: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [17:57:29] rigid: mediawiki-l is often a good place to ask the "which extension to do foo?" question [17:57:41] hm [17:57:42] Hi Prakash__ - you've already checked your permissions? [17:57:44] sumanah, hi [17:57:56] looks more like missing sudo [17:57:56] gerrit web tree view is quite hard to find :( [17:58:01] Platonides, !!!! [17:58:03] :) [17:58:05] sumanah: No I haven't [17:58:07] hi qgil [17:58:18] can anyone point me to the url? i'd like to see all extensions hosted on gerrit without cloning them [17:58:18] Platonides, if you have 2 minutes please answer my emails about GSoC. That's all. :)' [17:58:24] rigid: we're switching to gitblit if I recall correctly, not all the links quite work [17:58:31] Platonides, I was worried about you [17:58:37] * sumanah is also glad to see Platonides  [17:58:43] ah [17:58:57] sumanah, I have a few minutes before becoming a dinner cook [17:59:06] I have to go, sorry, a meeting, https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/ might help you rigid [17:59:09] which permissions do we need to set for which files ? [17:59:20] qgil: will pm, it's a little thing [17:59:22] sumanah: ah, nice. thank you [17:59:32] whops, unread mails from you since July 1 [17:59:37] ohai Platonides. saw the WLM related UploadWizard bugs fixed? :D [18:00:33] I saw some action on them, I don't remember if finally fixing or the step previous [18:00:45] what I haven't done is to test them :) [18:00:51] bye! [18:01:16] 03(mod) Logging out on a different device logs me out everywhere else - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49890 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [18:01:17] Platonides: help on that would be nice, I'm writing docs for them [18:01:25] Platonides: should roll out with wmf11, so in commons week after [18:02:38] Why do I get an access forbidden message when I try to access localhost ? I have installed XAMPP on Ubuntu , please help me set the right access rights for the fies , so needed for proper functioning of the XAMPP [18:03:16] I wonder, why don't you simply install a normal apache? [18:03:45] I was trying to use the Xampp , thats why [18:04:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes to avoid corrupting templates' whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150 (10Roan Kattouw) [18:05:20] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: PHP warning "An error occurred while invoking the map callback" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47844 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:05:32] 03(mod) No EventLogging through watchlist CTA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50972 +comment (10Jon) [18:06:43] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interface has elements untranslated in Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51249 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [18:07:25] wo software hai jsike upar wikipedia bani hai [18:07:48] I am sorry for posting it here [18:08:47] 03(mod) PHP Notice: Uninitialized string offset: 1 in /includes/WebRequest.php on line 658 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46627 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:09:16] is it just me or are all the extensions on https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions.git empty? [18:09:27] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 +comment (10Luis Villa) [18:09:36] hm.. or could it be I shouldn't clone them but adding them as submodule? [18:09:40] Random question: if I were to stuff some wikitext into a file for some reason, what extension should I use? [18:09:59] use your clipboard? [18:10:06] Nathan2055: or use the API? [18:10:48] The reason I'm asking is because I want to bundle a testcase with a script on GitHub. [18:10:55] or maintenance/importTextFile.php if it's the other case [18:11:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interface has elements untranslated in Spanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51249 +comment (10jforrester) [18:11:30] Nathan2055, looked at the test cases on tests/parser/parserTests.txt ? [18:11:53] So just .txt, I suppose? [18:12:55] well, there's an inner format [18:13:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve unmodified data-mw attributes to avoid corrupting templates' whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51150 (10James Forrester) [18:13:15] rigid: Clone the repo, then git submodule update --init --recursive [18:14:39] Reedy: hm... i'm trying that with extensions/AddMetaAndTitle but it still remains entry (besides .git*) [18:18:07] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41360 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:18:12] 03(mod) LinkCache doesn't currently know about this title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37209 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:18:12] 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:18:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Images' selection blocks can overlap the toolbar and prevent saving/etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49308 (10James Forrester) [18:20:35] 03(mod) Many LinksUpdateTest triggering MWException: LinkCache doesn't know latest revision ID of this title: Testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44307 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:23:58] is there a change that there are empty submodules on git.wikimedia.org ? [18:24:02] *chance [18:24:13] or is it a bug or my failure? [18:25:40] 03(mod) Watching pages (AJAX) requires WriteAPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47480 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:25:55] They work fine for me [18:26:06] very strange [18:26:43] Reedy: i cloned mw from https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git maybe that's the error? [18:27:34] 03(mod) Install Notifications (Echo) on the Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51251 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [18:27:42] Reedy: extensions/AddMetaAndTitle/ contains files if you add it as submodule? [18:28:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Invalid token" message after period of inactivity leads to lost work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50424 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:29:47] 03(mod) Special:Notifications does not include links to diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51005 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:30:38] rigid: https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FAddMetaAndTitle.git [18:30:41] Empty repo is repo [18:30:44] No one has pushed any code [18:30:49] ahhh ok [18:31:02] *Empty repo is empty [18:31:40] lol Reedy. [18:39:52] 03(NEW) Template display misaligned in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51252 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [18:45:03] hi, how can i get Lua to show up under "Installed Software" of the Special:Version page like it does for Wikipedia? [18:50:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Remove obsolete retry token logic in mw.Target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51253 +comment (10krinklemail) [18:50:55] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Remove obsolete retry token logic in mw.Target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51253 +comment (10krinklemail) [18:51:54] hoken: you mean you want to install it? [18:51:56] !e Scribunto [18:51:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Scribunto [18:56:06] matmarex: yes, but I've already installed both Scribunto as well as Lua from http://www.lua.org/. But since it's not showing up under "Installed Software" I'm assuming Mediawiki doesnt pick up on it, how can I fix that? [18:57:00] hoken: ah. hm, i don't know [18:57:05] but this wasn't there some time ago [18:57:17] probably a new feature in newest scributno and/or newest MediaWiki [18:57:22] 03(mod) Parsoid turns double newlines in blockquotes into paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51086 (10ssastry) [18:57:27] * MatmaRex checks [18:59:09] !hook SoftwareInfo [18:59:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SoftwareInfo [19:01:36] 03(mod) On Amazon with GD library installed: Installer fatal error in Parser::parse() line 558 due to Title.php's secureAndSplit() returning null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38379 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:02:36] hoken: that functionality was added to scribunto in march [19:02:38] !gerrit I912197efee0211066677c4d46e638fb546a410c6 [19:02:38] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,I912197efee0211066677c4d46e638fb546a410c6,n,z [19:02:53] so it should work for you unless you have an older version [19:04:36] 03(mod) Special:NewPagesFeed intermittently fails on beta cluster; causes test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50622 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [19:11:18] is there a way to see the code/sql associated with Usercontribs api call ? [19:11:48] 03(mod) Load dropdown menu only after it is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50670 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [19:13:44] 03(mod) PHP Strict Standards: Static function 'getSoftwareLink' should not be abstract - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42267 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:15:27] MatmaRex: hm, i have the latest Scribunto and MediaWiki and still doesnt show. Something is definitely off though because when I try "{{#invoke: Module_name | function_name | arg1}}" it just prints arg1 literally. Nothing that I can see in logs either, any other way I can debug? [19:16:25] i'm not familiar with scribunto, eh [19:16:27] !debugging [19:16:27] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [19:16:31] this in general ^ [19:16:48] but i don't know how to help you with this, sorry [19:17:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When user types in '[[' in the page or another DOM input widget, pop up a reminder that they're using VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49820 +comment (10gpaumier) [19:18:45] 03(mod) Notifications: "New link" notification targets are only bold in reports of single new links, not multiple ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49345 (10bsitu) [19:18:48] 03(NEW) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 normal; MediaWiki: Database; () [19:18:50] MatmaRex: kk no worries, thanks for ur help :) [19:19:21] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Changing all items of an ordered or unordered list does change the first item only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51255 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [19:21:09] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [19:22:32] 03(NEW) CSS for navigation bar shouldn't be loaded from client side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51256 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [19:22:35] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10matma.rex) [19:22:47] 03(mod) Parsoid turns double newlines in blockquotes into paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51086 +comment (10gwicke) [19:26:27] 03(mod) Diffing between different content models throws a fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50202 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:28:46] 03(mod) Fix minimizeInlineTags so that it can deal with metas and does not crash and use it for new incoming content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42803 +comment (10gwicke) [19:31:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Changing all items of an ordered or unordered list does change the first item only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51255 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [19:32:17] can you confirm your email if you're not logged in? (i.e. does the confirmation link still work?) [19:32:30] 03(NEW) Improve chapter dropdown menu for books with lots of chapters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51257 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [19:33:11] 03(mod) Special:Block ignores user's preferred language for some menu items (shown in wiki's default language) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49561 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:33:51] hrmmmmmm, no one home? :-) [19:34:13] 03(NEW) Add title attribute for the data and toc icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51258 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [19:36:15] 03(mod) Debug Toolbar does not pop on bad chars in debug text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48951 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:38:37] 03(mod) Parsoid only changes the first '*' to '#' when a
    is a changed to an
      - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51255 summary (10Roan Kattouw) [19:41:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: {{refer�ncias}} is expanded to
      - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51145 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:43:22] 03(mod) Page titles containing ISBN give unexpected values for FULLPAGENAME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47049 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:43:43] 03(mod) Foster-parentable metas not about-marked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51211 normal->major; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:43:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deletion of a DL into/from a block slug breaks due to missing getAnnotatedHtml method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50076 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:45:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Remove obsolete retry token logic in mw.Target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51253 (10James Forrester) [19:46:10] 03(mod) Parsoid only changes the first '*' to '#' when a
        is a changed to an
          - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51255 (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:48:01] 03(mod) Edit summary of a rollback for a rev deleted username shows the previous user to be "null" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46477 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:48:23] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 normal->major (10Greg Grossmeier) [19:52:04] hey there, was wondering if there is some way to have the collapse state of a table saved? Currently we are using a template that has links to all other Monsters in a game put on every monster page (at the bottom); I made the template table collapsible, but would like a way so that when someone collapses it and reloads the page (or goes to another page using that template) it would still be [19:52:08] collapsed for that person [19:52:31] 03(mod) Asia/Jakarta timezone abbreviation is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44758 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:53:40] take a look at how it's done for the toc [19:54:20] 03(mod) No CSS loads when the browser's JS, is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51256 summary (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:54:20] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:54:30] 03(mod) No CSS loads when the browser's JS is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51256 summary (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:55:12] 03(mod) Part of the text outside of square brackets not part of link for non-Latin languages (e.g. "[[test]]ers") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44029 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:58:40] well the TOC seems to use a special javasript [19:58:45] 03(mod) Improve chapter dropdown menu for books with lots of chapters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51257 +comment (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:58:46] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:59:38] 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:59:39] Neppy: yeah. there is no built-in function to do that [19:59:40] 03(mod) Add title attribute for the data and toc icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51258 (10Raylton P. Sousa) [19:59:44] :/ [20:00:03] any way to automatically populate such a template with pages from a specific category then? [20:00:32] !e DynamicPageList | Neppy [20:00:33] Neppy: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:DynamicPageList+%7c+Neppy [20:00:43] grmbl. [20:00:44] !e DynamicPageList [20:00:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:DynamicPageList [20:01:01] Neppy: this extension :) ^ [20:01:08] !botbrain [20:01:08] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [20:01:34] 03(mod) Templates that create multiple table cells don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50589 +comment (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) [20:03:05] 03(NEW) $* and $url_encoded_* don't play well with !key | user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51259 normal; Tools: WM-Bot; () [20:04:53] hmm thanks, but doesnt look too useful to use in a template i think ^^ [20:17:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Annotated element metadata inside wrapper paragraphs being discarded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 summary (10James Forrester) [20:19:25] 03(mod) EventLogging on the beta cluster should work well and match production (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49723 +comment (10ori) [20:21:43] 03(mod) uls-previous-languages cookie set separately for each path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49155 (10spage) [20:26:49] 03(mod) red notification number not clearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48568 (10bsitu) [20:27:00] 03(mod) Wrong edit summary preview when adding a new discussion section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40453 +comment (10Umherirrender) [20:27:13] 03(mod) red notification number not clearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48568 (10bsitu) [20:40:48] 03(mod) Wrong edit summary preview when adding a new discussion section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40453 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:41:39] 03(mod) Wrong edit summary preview when adding a new discussion section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40453 +comment (10Umherirrender) [20:44:17] 03(mod) Load dropdown menu only after it is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50670 +comment (10raylton.sousa) [20:46:16] 03(mod) 4-digits numbers in Spanish should not have a group separator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [20:48:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Annotated element metadata inside wrapper paragraphs being discarded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 (10Roan Kattouw) [20:49:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Annotated element metadata inside wrapper paragraphs being discarded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51235 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:49:13] 03(mod) Page with bad title " " now unreachable, but still appears in statistics&special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38788 +comment (10Umherirrender) [20:51:41] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [20:52:08] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 (10Rob Lanphier) [20:54:14] 03(mod) Purge for some thumbnails fails after re-uploading a file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49362 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [20:56:24] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10matma.rex) [20:57:26] 03(NEW) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; () [20:58:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When user types in '[[' in the page or another DOM input widget, pop up a reminder that they're using VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49820 +comment (10John Broughton) [21:00:17] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10sam) [21:01:24] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 +comment (10T. H. Kelly (Pink&)) [21:04:00] 03(mod) Special:Statistics shows -1 active users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20017 +comment (10Umherirrender) [21:07:25] 03(NEW) Wiki name is double escaped in left nav - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51261 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [21:08:58] 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810 +comment (10mlazowik) [21:10:28] 03(mod) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [21:12:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't drag and drop transclusions, text, references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50359 +comment (10Elitre) [21:12:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981 +comment (10Elitre) [21:17:18] 03(mod) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 +comment (10jforrester) [21:17:32] 03(mod) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 (10James Forrester) [21:19:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content (text, transclusions, references, …) to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981 summary (10James Forrester) [21:19:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't drag and drop transclusions, text, references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50359 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:19:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Click-dragging of content (text, transclusions, references, …) to move it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49981 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:20:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Crash in Chrome when attempting to cut certain content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50043 +comment (10Elitre) [21:22:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: annotations next to each other aren't necessarily the same - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49873 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:23:49] 03(mod) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 +comment (10matma.rex) [21:25:13] 03(mod) Wiki name is double escaped in left nav - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51261 +comment (10rkaldari) [21:30:59] 03(NEW) Render paragraphs when indent-pre is suppressed in blocklevels such as blockquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51262 normal; Parsoid: General; () [21:31:19] 03(NEW) Parsoid inserts after a category, trying to protect against a linktrail that doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51263 normal; Parsoid: serializer; () [21:31:33] 03(mod) Render paragraphs when indent-pre is suppressed in blocklevels such as blockquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51262 (10Gabriel Wicke) [21:32:29] 03(mod) Render paragraphs when indent-pre is suppressed in blocklevels such as blockquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51262 +comment (10gwicke) [21:33:18] 03(mod) Provide wiki metadata in the databases similar to toolserver.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48626 +comment (10marc) [21:37:04] 03(mod) Extend the tag to mirror enwiki's {{reflist}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51260 +comment (10jforrester) [21:37:16] 03(mod) Render paragraphs when indent-pre is suppressed in blocklevels such as blockquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51262 +comment (10wikimedia) [21:39:52] ori-l: I have a problem with mediawiki-vagrant. When I run "vagrant provision", I now get an error message: http://pastebin.com/enFjUtmW . I�don't know what this mediawiki-vagrant.dev file is supposed to be, but it doesn't seem to exist anywhere... [21:40:37] Zaran: that's a failure of the node classifier, a small script that tells puppet which roles to apply to the VM. can you get into the machine by running "vagrant ssh"? [21:40:51] ori-l: yes this is working fine [21:41:14] ok, can you run: "/vagrant/puppet/extra/puppet-classifier" ? [21:41:22] 03(mod) Double newlines in blockquotes should be turned into paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51086 summary; +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:42:10] ori-l: "Roles.yaml does not contain a valid YAML manifest." [21:42:14] it fails [21:42:22] did you edit it by hand? [21:42:48] no I�haven't [21:42:54] but I see that all the lines are commented [21:42:55] could you 'cat /vagrant/Roles.yaml' and pastebin the output? [21:43:02] except classes [21:43:08] so it's probably not a valid YAML file [21:43:09] I get it [21:43:22] Zaran: no, it probably is valid and I made a mistake w/the parsing [21:43:34] so I'd appreciate the paste nevertheless :) [21:44:07] http://pastebin.com/2yXZiB15 [21:44:20] so the roles need to be added there, not in sites.pp ? [21:44:24] * Zaran is confused by puppet... [21:44:26] Zaran: OK, don't modify it please; I'll have a fix in a moment and it'd be helpful if you could test it [21:44:36] Zaran: I'll explain in a sec [21:44:58] ori-l: sure, take your time [21:45:59] hi Zaran good to see you! [21:46:15] hey sumanah! good to see you yoo [21:46:17] too* [21:46:47] How's it going? [21:46:58] it's going great [21:47:13] btw Zaran did you see my mail to wikitech-l about some opportunities coming up, like linux.conf.au and Hacker School? [21:47:45] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-July/070209.html [21:48:45] 03(mod) VipsScaler test page should strip File: prefix from filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51149 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [21:49:02] 03(mod) Review and deploy VipsScaler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28135 +comment (10greg) [21:50:16] sumanah: thanks a lot, I'm reading it and it doesn't seem that any of it applies to me at the moment, but it's nice of you to keep notifying me about these kind of things :) [21:50:33] :) Zaran you should consider submitting an LCA talk [21:50:38] the deadline moved to July 20 [21:51:45] sumanah: "The conference is well known for the speakers and delegates depth of talent, and its focus on technical linux content." I don't think I'm at that level yet :) [21:52:06] 03(NEW) sitename for vote.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51264 trivial; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [21:52:07] Zaran: I think you may be [21:52:13] and there's no point in pre-rejecting yourlse [21:52:15] yourself* [21:53:14] sumanah: just for the joy of arguing, there *is* a point in pre-rejecting oneself: if you're 99% sure of being rejected, then your time is better spent on something else than preparing a talk proposal :) [21:53:48] Zaran: OK, I can understand that, sure. I am sorry for being so simplistic [21:54:19] Zaran: however! there is also value in *practicing in writing talk proposals* - because that is how one gets better at that, which is a skill some people are better at than others [21:54:26] 03(mod) Implement inline comment support using OKFN annotator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46440 summary; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [21:54:59] in any case - I want to put that sort of thing on your radar for the future -- perhaps consider PHP NW (a PHP conference in the north of England) or FOSDEM or another conference for the future [21:57:28] 03(NEW) extra purge needed / memcached and an uploaded file greater than $wgUploadSizeWarning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51265 normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; () [21:58:41] sumanah: don't be sorry, I was just trying to oppose a counter-argument. But I think our time is our most valuable resource and it's hard to know how to allocate it optimally. Most of the time, I�choose to allocate it to stuff which are going to help other people, which means doing things I'm already good at [21:58:54] the flaw of this allocation policy, is that it makes it hard to learn new stuff [21:59:08] so what you are saying definitely make sense :) [22:00:00] anyway, again, I feel thankful that you keep bugging me about this kind of things [22:00:12] 03(mod) extra purge needed / memcached and an uploaded file greater than $wgUploadSizeWarning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51265 (10[[kgh]]) [22:03:58] :) sounds good Zaran [22:04:09] I'm glad things are going great in your corner of the world [22:04:24] it really is a huge question, how to allocate our time well, to make the biggest dent in the world [22:04:35] I have been thinking about https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_evaluation_basics:_the_program_impact_model a lot, and about my theory of change [22:10:54] Zaran: should be fixed; can you 'git pull' and try to re-run 'vagrant provision'? [22:11:05] 03(mod) Cannot edit my vector.css user page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50136 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:13:52] sumanah: this program impact model looks interesting [22:14:08] however it seems really specific to code writing isn't it? [22:14:56] 03(mod) Compilation failed: regular expression is too large in ApiQueryExtracts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46581 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:15:38] Zaran: is it? I perceive it to be a general way to think about endeavors we do in order to change the world in some way [22:17:13] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10springle) [22:17:27] Zaran: this is a bit offtopic for this channel, but the late Aaron Swartz used "theory of change" a lot http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/theoryofchange and http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/toc and I've been thinking about what my theory of change is, what impact I want to make [22:33:54] greg-g: VipsScaler just affects PNGs - correct? [22:33:58] 03(mod) Chunked upload fails with internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36587 +comment (10fastily) [22:36:02] 03(mod) Notifications page HTML markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49269 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:36:50] 03(NEW) Upload fails with inscrutable message on timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51266 normal; Commons App: iOS (iPhone or iPad); () [22:36:52] Does anyone know why if I enter this: "{{#invoke:StringReplace|replace_all|test.a%1$foo|%1|bar}}" it just outputs "replace_all" or whatever I change that to? I checked my Module:StringReplace and it's the same as Wikipedia [22:37:10] sumanah: errm [22:37:20] hi odder - what's up? [22:37:22] is that page part of the Program Evaluation team? [22:38:11] Program Evaluation & Design, exactly, the one Sarah's in [22:38:26] Hmm, I feel like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roundtable2-Webcast-Screenshot-Dominic.png isn't actually ok for commons... [22:38:39] odder: the Program Evaluation Basics page? I believe it's Frank S. who worked on that a lot -- you saw https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/11/finding-out-what-works-first-workshop-program-evaluation/ ? [22:39:30] "Each time I did this it failed without exception." -- what an interesting choice of words on a bug about an exception ;) [22:39:37] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff?showall=1 so the people who made the page are the people of Grantmaking and Program Development but I think the teams changed a little since the page was originally created, odder - does that help? [22:39:55] sumanah: not at all [22:40:25] odder: okay, I'm not quite sure what you're asking -- are you asking whom that set of wiki pages "belongs to"? [22:41:42] odder: your original question was "is that page part of the Program Evaluation team?" I think of teams as being *sets of people* but perhaps I am misunderstanding you [22:41:55] sumanah: yeah, sorry, that was what I meant [22:42:49] so I'm assuming the answer is 'yes' [22:43:04] okay. So, given that Frank Schulenburg wrote nearly all the content, and given that the last revisions to most of those pages were in Feb., I would say that it is unclear to me who "owns" those pages specifically but it would be the Grantmaking and Program Development team [22:43:41] then the question that arises from that [22:43:44] I should be clearer: I believe the current owner of those pages is Frank, who is Senior Director of Program Development within the Grantmaking and Program Development team, but I could be wrong [22:44:12] is why ... was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49312 requested if no one's going to use it [22:44:26] I would not be surprised if the "Program Evaluation and Design" sub-team of Grantmaking and Program Development is going to revise those pages at some point [22:44:27] * sumanah clicks [22:44:51] odder: well, I'm not sure why you're presuming that no one will use the Programs namespace [22:45:11] because they didn't [22:45:29] Sarah made this request on June 7th. It seems reasonable to me to assume that, sometime soon, someone will move some stuff around to use the new namespace [22:45:41] but I see Sarah took my advice, so it's a non-issue [22:45:58] odder: yeah, your assumptions here are kind of confusing [22:46:15] 03(mod) Calculated Age of persons can become outdated until next cache purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49803 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [22:46:49] sumanah: why? the creation of the namespace was highly rushed, and community members were told it's of critical importance [22:47:12] 03(mod) Can't use Special:RenameUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43618 +comment (10rlane32) [22:47:22] the patch ori-l created was merged on June 18, and on July 10, only one page was created in that namespace [22:47:35] this makes me a bit lost. [22:47:52] that's why I'm asking [22:48:38] These things take time. ;-) [22:48:47] I think some namespaces on the English Wikipedia are still mostly empty. [22:49:43] 03(mod) red notification number not clearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48568 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:49:47] odder: I'm trying to find the "highly rushed" thing here and I think you and I have different perspectives on what counts as "highly rushed" -- thank you for explaining your perspective [22:50:28] sumanah: both pngs and jpgs [22:50:47] https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVipsScaler/01f476f7bda68aa2d3718be14fa642c2cb26c251/VipsScaler.php#L60 [22:50:49] greg-g: oh! ok. will you edit the extension page on mw or shall I? [22:50:56] sumanah: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Programs_namespace provides some deeper context [22:50:57] greg-g: including progressive jpegs? [22:51:48] bawolff: all I know is what I linked to :) [22:51:53] I would note that for non-progressive jpegs, we already have support for resizing images regardless of how big they are [22:53:26] 03(mod) Calculated Age of persons can become outdated until next cache purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49803 +comment (10gwicke) [22:53:50] sumanah: if you can, otherwise I might not get to it by EOD [22:54:07] greg-g: I shall attempt to do so! [22:54:37] sumanah: :) thankya much [22:56:27] 03(mod) ISBN in refs nowikied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51222 +comment (10jforrester) [22:57:33] odder: I'm also a bit confused, to be honest [22:57:55] odder: it may have been a mistake; I don't know yet. [22:58:25] ori-l: what do you mean? [22:58:56] ori-l: I'm only speaking about the upsetting experience of this namespace being rushed and then not implemented [22:59:22] I wrote to Sarah yesterday and she's moved a lot of pages to that new namespace since then, which is cool [22:59:43] Not implemented? [22:59:52] Elsie: not used, I should've written [23:01:10] we're getting pretty offtopic for #mediawiki I think - in any case, I'm glad it's basically sorted out now [23:01:31] odder: ah, didn't know about most recent developments. makes sense. [23:02:01] anyway - Zaran I've found those concepts helpful to me, maybe you will find them also helpful (theory of change & related stuff) [23:02:24] and Zaran how is your GSoC mentorship going? need anything? advice, tools, etc.? [23:04:43] 03(mod) Block user is broken on wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49811 +comment (10rlane32) [23:13:13] 03(NEW) false multiple triggering (of one single rule) on one single edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51267 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; () [23:16:14] sumanah: I agree, the theory of change article by Aaron Swartz is really interesting, I had came across it once, but I realize I should reread it... [23:17:27] and yes my mentorship is going great (at least from my perspective), I feel like I'm learning a lot, which is a good sign I�guess :) [23:17:48] 03(NEW) Parsoid doesn't support $wgEnableImageWhitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51268 normal; Parsoid: General; () [23:18:11] and there are also interesting discussions going on with the BookManager GSoC project team [23:18:13] 03(NEW) Maxthon mobile browser click on link opens the link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51269 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [23:18:43] 03(mod) Parsoid doesn't support $wgEnableImageWhitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51268 +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [23:20:04] Zaran: oh that all sounds great! awesome [23:20:15] my mom says "teaching is learning twice" [23:21:02] sumanah: your mom is very wise :) [23:21:07] she is :) [23:22:21] sumanah: there is also this other GSoC project about the BookManager extension [23:22:27] right [23:22:29] Nazmul's? [23:22:42] which is going to be rewritten from scratch [23:22:50] * sumanah looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013 [23:22:50] hmm I know that the student is GorillaWarfare [23:22:58] I don't remember the mentors... [23:23:03] wait, I mean GorillaWarfare [23:23:06] Raylton: ^ [23:23:06] right [23:23:28] Rasel160 is working on UploadWizard: Book upload customization with marktraceur and Micru [23:23:51] anyway, there has been a really interesting discussion by email with people from Wikisource and this GSoC project, and I think it can have a huge potential for Wikisource [23:23:54] I mean *huge* [23:24:01] if the right choices are made from the beginning [23:24:07] amazing! [23:24:18] and I have open in a tab - will read soon - the blog post about the Wikisource strategy talks [23:24:28] and I have open in a tab to read http://aartindi.blogspot.com/2013/07/proofreadpage-extension-immediate-goals.html as well :) [23:24:36] Zaran, i'm one mentor [23:24:42] * sumanah looks at https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/09/wikisource-vision-development-and-open-access/  [23:25:04] Raylton: oh right, I'm sorry, I have a hard time remembering everybody's name [23:25:19] * GorillaWarfare reads back up [23:25:55] * GorillaWarfare waves [23:26:00] Hi GorillaWarfare how is your summer going? [23:26:00] I'm the BookManagerv2 student [23:26:04] It's going great! [23:26:13] Awesome! [23:26:23] 03(mod) Maxthon mobile browser click on link opens the link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51269 +comment (10James Forrester) [23:26:29] yeah I was just mentioning this discussion we've had by email [23:26:38] I�found it amazingly interesting [23:26:53] Rock! [23:26:57] on the wikisource list? [23:27:24] hmm was it? I don't remember... [23:27:42] no, it was all private unfortunately [23:27:48] I guess these things should better be public [23:28:00] Yeah, that is probably true [23:28:50] yes [23:29:10] I strongly recommend posting it publicly as soon as possible - this weekend even [23:29:19] I had a similar situation once :-) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/Lua_vs_Javascript [23:29:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links should follow the local CSS rules as if they were rendered in the view mode (e.g. external links shown with the external icon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38726 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [23:29:46] btw GorillaWarfare, I've had a thought/question this morning about BookManager, I wanted to right about it [23:30:07] Zaran: Sure, do you want to ask me now or on-list somewhere or..? [23:31:06] s/right/write [23:31:09] Zaran, Do you have a page where notes things? [23:31:22] Raylton: no it's all in my head :) [23:32:54] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10springle) [23:34:11] Zaran, Do it now! My grandmother once said: "one day of notes is worth ten days of coding" [23:34:22] lol [23:34:39] GorillaWarfare: I think I'm just going to reply to the already existing email thread, IRC is not the best place to explain it I�think [23:34:47] Sounds good [23:34:59] Raylton: ^ [23:35:33] Zaran, fine [23:35:54] and then I agree with sumanah , it would make sense to publish the thread somewhere [23:37:32] 03(mod) tag_summary missing records - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51254 +comment (10Steven Walling) [23:38:12] I think GorillaWarfare can copy it entirely and put it in the planning page. Right Molly? [23:38:35] in case some people in some distant future want to dig into the history of BookManagerV2 to try to understand the origin of the brilliant work GorillaWarfare :) [23:38:52] Sure [23:38:59] Should I ask for permission in the email, you think? [23:39:22] GorillaWarfare, yes, for sure [23:39:47] I'll do that [23:41:29] Zaran, But you can see the details here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_management [23:44:56] 03(NEW) Google Chrome text cursor hides link object icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51270 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [23:46:05] 03(mod) Maxthon mobile browser click on link opens the link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51269 +comment (10jayvdb) [23:53:29] 03(mod) Setting rights to userright1 OR userright2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48764 +comment (10Platonides) [23:55:30] 03(mod) Update change tag indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40867 +comment (10Sean Pringle)