[00:00:01] and Amir1 you can look at https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Attendees for a list of some attendees, so if you see one who could help you teach or learn something, you can ask them ahead of time [00:00:04] ok Amir1 :) [00:00:10] hope you get some rest soon. [00:00:39] but now I'm thinking how we can make this happen [00:01:46] sumanah: about this file: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Bots_hackathon_2013.pdf [00:02:04] did you know I was supposed to present about running bots in the hackathon? [00:02:26] I mean I know [00:02:30] I have material [00:03:11] I practiced with (finne) [00:03:29] *henna (finne) [00:04:57] sumanah: a question if you're still there [00:05:19] yup [00:05:49] which presentation is better: 1- hacking via gerrit (in general) 2-running a bot and hacking pwb codes via gerrit [00:06:29] a prefer the latter because I'm better in running and hacking pwb rather than the whole codes [00:06:35] *I prefer [00:07:59] *I prefer (I was disconnected) [00:08:15] but I want your opinion, which one is better [00:08:21] 03(mod) Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:09:02] legoktm: I want yours too [00:09:43] #2 probably makes more sense, it takes quite a while to dig into the framework and understand how it works [00:10:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A on page causes "Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded" in oojs.compare - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51948 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:10:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: A on page causes "Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded" in oojs.compare - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51948 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [00:15:01] ok [00:17:30] legoktm: can you write the proposal? I can't write it right now [00:17:55] and I say sooner is better [00:18:31] * marktraceur looks around for l10n people [00:19:31] Amir1: [00:19:35] sure lemme look [00:19:41] I'm seeing that messages I register in one extension aren't usable in another extension - I want to pass a message label off to a hook and have the hook-caller take care of building the message, but maybe there's some kind of context missing? [00:20:07] thanks [00:20:11] Like, extensions get run in a sandbox that doesn't include the extension messages files from other extensions or something [00:20:50] marktraceur: why don't you join #mediawiki-i18n [00:20:57] Because you're not my real dad! [00:20:59] But OK I will [00:21:35] marktraceur: :)) [00:22:09] If you ask there more-interested people see [00:23:42] Amir1: hey there, just switched back to this window -- I drifted away and didn't get a my-nick-being-used ping :) [00:23:44] reading backscroll [00:24:01] okay :) [00:24:47] Amir1 - I'm not sure what you mean when you say "proposal". So I emphasize that you don't need to write any proposal at all. You could just show up and start doing things, if you wanted. the only reason to email some people ahead of time is to avoid bumping into each other and publicize the opportunity. [00:24:51] legoktm ^ [00:24:56] (you probably already know this) [00:25:32] what I meant by saying proposal is content of e-mail which we are going to send [00:25:42] Amir1: I really truly think that the Wikimania attendees know better than I do which of the two choices (general Gerrit introduction or hacking pywikipediabot with Git) they want. [00:25:46] okay. [00:26:34] You could do both, in two parts. Part A is intro to Git. Then part B is intro to pywikipedia hacking. That way people who already know Git stuff can skip Part A and just show up for Part B. [00:26:48] sumanah: yeah I couldn't be more agree but I mean which group will be more, people who want the former, people who want the latter? [00:26:52] Amir1: I added https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/DevCamp/Brainstorming#Pywikipediabot [00:27:01] legoktm: thank dear lego [00:27:46] Amir1: I think that is very difficult to predict. Sorry. [00:28:02] I don't want to make up predictions just for the sake of speculation. [00:28:05] sumanah: so you're saying we have to have two presentations? [00:28:16] you don't "have to" do anything! [00:28:19] okay [00:28:24] yeah [00:28:35] I'm suggesting that you could have two sessions, one logically following the other. [00:28:36] sorry [00:29:30] My advice: don't think of them as presentations. Think of them as a set of exercises everyone does together, with you as the guide or facilitator. Like a coach or a theater director. [00:29:32] sumanah: I agree [00:30:02] sumanah: I think you're mad at me right now (just a feeling) [00:30:06] no! I'm not! [00:30:47] the only thing I am sad about is the past -- it sounds like you have not gotten to enjoy really interesting learning and teaching sessions yet, and so I grieve that lost opportunity [00:31:13] but thank you for checking in with me about the possible anger, so I had the chance to clarify things :) [00:32:52] sumanah: I had some lessons like what you said but for some reasons I always thought learning is like big classes and etc. [00:33:01] so ok [00:33:12] we'll have a session [00:33:19] What would your name be for the kinds of interactive sessions I am talking about? fun ones? [00:33:29] do you have some noun to use? :) [00:34:05] a funny class? [00:34:17] or a funny session [00:35:57] 03(mod) Add the protection log on top of articles protected from creation in page view, as in moveddeleted-notice within mw-warning-with-logexcerpt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25023 +comment (10Technical 13) [00:36:07] so, in US English, "funny" means that people laugh a lot, and that the primary goal is to make people laugh [00:36:18] (sort of) [00:38:45] sumanah: hacking booty-camp? I used this from glee (the tv show) [00:39:18] I have never heard that one before. Also, "booty" in the US means "a person's butt" (rear end), with a kind of vulgar connotation. [00:39:43] Maybe "bootcamp" is better - it is a reference to a military training program that cares a lot about results [00:40:00] Examples: http://software-carpentry.org/bootcamps/ [00:40:11] maybe I heard that word wrongly (or I'm recalling wrongly) [00:40:48] I saw that episodes like two years ago [00:41:00] it's okay :) [00:43:07] I have to go, my husband and I are gonna watch the movie "Apollo 13" as a treat for the beginning of the weekend [00:43:32] Hide the spoilers! [00:43:37] sumanah: have a nice weekend :) [00:43:58] :) thanks, you too [00:45:35] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 (10Legoktm) [00:54:33] 03(mod) Password reset doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52126 +comment (10jgonera) [01:04:10] 03(NEW) Globals should be explicitly declared in PHP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52129 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [01:04:50] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Come up with something better than .offsetOf() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52130 normal; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; () [01:07:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Come up with something better than .offsetOf() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52130 normal->trivial (10James Forrester) [01:13:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Deleting plain text from a large page with backspace or delete is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52013 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:16:27] 03(mod) Feature request: article icon area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23796 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [01:38:22] 03(NEW) No way to tell that page title is a link in mobilediff view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52131 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [01:41:38] 03(mod) Feature request: article icon area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23796 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [01:41:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: top icons: featured star and good plus layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51420 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [01:46:00] 03(mod) Uninstall UploadBlacklist extension from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52056 +comment (10b) [01:46:20] 03(mod) Uninstall UploadBlacklist extension from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52056 +comment (10b) [01:49:02] 03(NEW) Gerrit bot doesn't update Bugzilla if commit message is edited via the Gerrit user interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52132 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [01:52:26] 03(mod) README is unfocused & unwelcoming - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50552 +comment (10ori) [01:53:51] 03(mod) README is unfocused & unwelcoming - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50552 +comment (10b) [02:08:37] 03(mod) README is unfocused & unwelcoming - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50552 +comment (10ori) [02:13:59] 03(mod) "Upload file" link on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51800 +comment (10This, that and the other) [02:26:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540 +comment (10zedlightman) [02:31:19] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:31:22] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [02:33:33] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10This, that and the other) [02:36:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: odd junk insertions intermittently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52107 summary; +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [02:53:19] 03(mod) "Upload file" link on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51800 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [02:54:36] 03(mod) configure beta labs for SUL2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51580 (10spage) [03:00:45] 03(mod) Parsoid adding nowikis around colons preceded by a space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52035 (10ssastry) [03:01:48] 03(mod) "[create=autopatrolled]" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52109 +comment (10This, that and the other) [03:20:05] 03(mod) Special page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13063 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [04:16:45] 03(mod) A link is not going to the correct place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46999 +comment (10This, that and the other) [04:30:34] 03(mod) Change file upload link on kowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52076 (10This, that and the other) [04:37:03] 03(mod) Change file upload link on kowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52076 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:37:06] 03(mod) Change file upload link on kowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52076 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [04:37:27] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52133 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [04:45:38] 03(mod) Add web font for the Pahlavi script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44076 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:45:38] 03(mod) Add web font for the Pahlavi script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44076 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [04:47:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:PendingChanges 03(NEW) Translate filters Special:Recentchangeslinked, but does not expose the UI to control filtering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52134 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [05:01:05] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10CalakWiki) [05:05:38] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: VE should detect template parameters automatically instead of using hand-written TemplateData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52135 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [05:26:41] 03(mod) "Upload file" link on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51800 +comment (10CalakWiki) [05:33:54] 03(mod) "Upload file" link on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51800 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:33:55] 03(mod) "Upload file" link on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51800 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:38:08] 03(mod) Special page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13063 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:38:10] 03(mod) Special page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13063 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:40:03] 03(mod) Special page for recent changes in unwatched articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13063 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [05:42:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing enter in a textarea should not submit the form (saveDialog-editSummary) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40034 +comment (10MZMcBride) [05:42:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52133 (10MZMcBride) [05:45:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: image followed immediately with wikilink causes dirty diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52107 summary; +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [05:48:04] 03(mod) Factor out getHtmlForClaims from EntityView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50578 +comment (10pragun06) [06:09:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor - Using "Select all" (Ctrl+a) and deleting the selected content afterwards leaves the document uneditable. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52125 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [06:11:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor - Undo keyboard shortcuts clear undo / redo history if pressed to often. (And other fun) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52113 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [06:15:09] 03(NEW) minimizing Item's UI for wikidata client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52136 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [06:16:05] 03(mod) minimizing Item's UI for wikidata client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52136 +comment (10reza.energy) [06:17:35] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs shall be enabled for OCR Index and Page namespaces for ru-wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52101 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:17:37] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs shall be enabled for OCR Index and Page namespaces for ru-wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52101 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [06:18:43] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs shall be enabled for OCR Index and Page namespaces for ru-wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52101 +comment (10This, that and the other) [06:18:56] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs shall be enabled for OCR Index and Page namespaces for ru-wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52101 (10This, that and the other) [06:36:55] 03(mod) Create a single score from multiple pages on Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48538 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [06:49:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor - EditIntro is incorrectly linked in the monobook skin. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52116 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [06:54:18] 03(mod) Change ckb wiki to use uca-ckb sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52015 +comment (10This, that and the other) [06:54:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor - Editing a link present in a reference leaves both the old and new link. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52127 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:02:24] 03(mod) Linktrail&prefix is wrongly applied to CJK characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41151 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:02:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Non-English Wikipedia issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51792 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:11:13] 03(mod) Change ckb wiki to use uca-ckb sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52015 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:11:17] 03(mod) Change ckb wiki to use uca-ckb sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52015 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:16:44] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:16:46] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:20:42] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:22:10] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [07:23:52] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:32:36] 03(mod) Add the protection log on top of articles protected from creation in page view, as in moveddeleted-notice within mw-warning-with-logexcerpt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25023 +comment (10federicoleva) [08:24:26] 03(mod) Extensions should clean up after themselves in the global namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47514 +comment (10Legoktm) [08:56:47] 03(mod) Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:57:42] 03(mod) Popup covers up monobook tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41240 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [09:03:03] 03(mod) Parsoid provides 200px-width default for sound files, rather than the sound icon at standard size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49689 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [09:08:38] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Tuvan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49328 (10polar_bear0901) [09:08:58] 03(mod) IE objects to beta labs security certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52121 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:08:59] 03(mod) [OPS] beta: get SSL certificates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48501 +comment (10hashar) [09:12:19] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:12:24] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:12:58] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Tuvan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49328 (10polar_bear0901) [09:14:16] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:14:56] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:15:18] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:17:07] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:18:05] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:18:34] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:18:40] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:19:34] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:23:43] 03(mod) OAuth extension should have Jenkins jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 +comment (10hashar) [09:29:43] 03(mod) OAuth extension should PHPUnit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52119 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:05:40] While installing mediawiki, it asks for "Name of wiki". What should i write here. could someone help me out ? [10:06:42] I am new here. [10:12:05] karan: name of wiki is the name of the site [10:12:37] if you have domain.tld then "Domain" would be the name of your wiki [10:14:46] jubo2: can we change it later ? Because I entered a random name. [10:15:04] karan: I think you can change it later on [10:15:18] probably in the LocalSettings.php [10:15:21] jubo2: okeh , thanks. [10:15:23] but I [10:15:28] I'm not 100% sure [10:29:41] 03(mod) TemplateData: Process language fallback and conversion server-side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50431 +comment (10liangent) [10:31:20] hello [10:33:28] karan: yes you can change it [10:39:59] great. [10:42:36] !e AbuseFilter [10:42:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:AbuseFilter [10:47:51] !wg MainCacheType [10:47:51] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMainCacheType [10:53:37] 03(mod) Set up additional protection level "autoreview" for arwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52109 summary; +comment (10This, that and the other) [10:56:31] I have installed the mediawiki and read all the getting started guidance. But still i am confused exactly where should i start. I'll prefer debug or code php script. Could someone help me along ? [10:56:40] 03(mod) TemplateData: Process language fallback and conversion server-side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50431 +comment (10liangent) [11:04:44] I want change Special:Upload to Wikipedia:Upload for my wiki. Where is git repository related to wikipedia configurations? [11:05:55] How I can see/propose modification on English Wikipedia Mediawiki configuration? [11:07:41] karan: you might try fixing a bug marked as easy :) [11:07:44] !bug !easy [11:07:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=!easy [11:16:22] I must apply http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&diff=4568850&oldid=4568798&uselang=en through wikipedia mediawiki configuration, any help? [11:18:19] 03(mod) Set up additional protection level "autoreview" for arwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52109 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:18:20] 03(mod) Set up additional protection level "autoreview" for arwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52109 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [11:21:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor "icon" can appear offscreen if the selected item starts offscreen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49922 summary (10John Mark Vandenberg) [11:22:29] !e TemplateData [11:22:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:TemplateData [11:25:07] any help? [12:00:59] how to debug php code using mediawiki [12:05:03] 03(mod) SMW Ask query offset has a hardcoded limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49203 summary (10Jamie Thingelstad) [12:06:22] !debugging [12:06:23] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [12:08:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display both "edit" and "edit source" links for sections without hover - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50540 +comment (10cmckenna) [12:09:16] 03(mod) SMW Ask query offset has a hardcoded limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49203 +comment (10jamie) [12:09:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Slugs should be more obvious to the user that they're not "really" blank lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47790 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [12:13:24] 03(NEW) SMW Ask query offset should error if maximum offset is exceeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52137 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [12:16:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as subscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51612 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [12:21:08] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Tuvan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49328 +comment (10mfwarburg) [12:31:11] 03(NEW) Change Special:Upload to Wikipedia:Upload for Persian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52138 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [12:33:59] 03(mod) Change Special:Upload to Wikipedia:Upload for Persian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52138 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:34:02] 03(mod) Change Special:Upload to Wikipedia:Upload for Persian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52138 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [12:36:38] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:39:08] 03(NEW) Write parserTests for fostered content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52139 normal; Parsoid: tests; () [12:50:49] 03(mod) parser tags such as , , etc. cannot be localized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28980 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [13:09:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: References created by templates numbered alone, not with the rest of the page, and don't show up as references to insert - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50474 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [13:12:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor - Undo keyboard shortcuts clear undo / redo history if pressed to often. (And other fun) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52113 (10Chris McKenna) [13:12:12] 03(mod) Visual Editor: CTRL+Z gives pawn - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51532 (10Chris McKenna) [13:29:05] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: add CTRL+Y as a second shortcut for redo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52140 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [13:30:35] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: disable on pages it corrupts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52141 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation; () [13:33:26] 03(NEW) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always language of Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [13:33:45] 03(NEW) Allow users to customise keyboard shortcuts, including in VisualEditor and source editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52143 enhancement; MediaWiki: User preferences; () [13:34:11] 03(mod) Table cell with pipe causes nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51919 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:40:37] 03(mod) Parsoid adding nowikis around colons preceded by a space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52035 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:40:50] 03(NEW) Make Babel-proficiency info (en-2) disabled-level consistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52144 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [13:58:06] 03(NEW) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [14:09:12] 03(NEW) selser changes should be kept up to date with parserTests.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52146 normal; Parsoid: tests; () [14:09:24] 03(mod) selser changes should be kept up to date with parserTests.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52146 (10C. Scott Ananian) [14:31:09] 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 +comment (10rainerrillke) [14:31:26] 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [14:38:10] 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 +comment (10rainerrillke) [15:05:30] 03(mod) Change ckb wiki to use uca-ckb sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52015 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [15:06:54] how php developer contribute in debuging using mediawiki ? [15:08:42] 03(mod) Change name of Neapolitan language from "Nnapulitano" to "Napulitano" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43793 +comment (10pirsquared17) [15:13:30] 03(mod) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always language of Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 (10Niklas Laxström) [15:13:39] 03(mod) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always language of Wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:14:10] 03(mod) Change ckb wiki to use uca-ckb sort order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52015 +comment (10CalakWiki) [15:27:34] 03(mod) Allow users to customise keyboard shortcuts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52143 summary; +comment (10Alex Monk) [15:30:38] 03(mod) Browser back doesn't take you back from random page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52128 +comment (10Jon) [15:30:40] 03(mod) Random button doesn't maintain browser history on desktop site in Chrome and Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37224 +comment (10Jon) [15:37:27] 03(mod) Translate filters Special:Recentchangeslinked, but does not expose the UI to control filtering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52134 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [15:48:55] 03(mod) Generate selser change assignments dynamically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50316 (10ssastry) [15:49:45] 03(mod) selser changes should be kept up to date with parserTests.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52146 (10ssastry) [15:57:15] 03(mod) Mobile editor doesn't support captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52047 (10Jon) [15:57:24] 03(mod) Mobile editor doesn't support captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52047 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:57:27] 03(mod) Mobile editor silently fails when abusefilter is triggered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52049 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:58:42] 03(mod) Mobile editor silently fails when abusefilter is triggered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52049 (10Jon) [15:58:56] 03(NEW) VisualEdit: Template {{tl}} invisible in edit mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52147 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [15:59:03] 03(mod) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always in the language of the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 summary (10Nemo) [16:01:04] 03(mod) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [16:03:22] 03(mod) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 +comment (10tomasz) [16:04:09] 03(mod) Sort groups alphabetically in Special:Translate export tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48783 (10Niklas Laxström) [16:04:32] 03(mod) Sort groups alphabetically in Special:Translate export tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48783 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:12:16] 03(NEW) Translation memory broken on meta.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52148 major; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [16:14:27] 03(mod) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 +comment (10liangent) [16:18:29] 03(mod) Translate filters Special:Recentchangeslinked, but does not expose the UI to control filtering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52134 (10Siebrand) [16:19:34] 03(mod) Create Wikipedia Tuvan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49328 (10polar_bear0901) [16:19:47] 03(mod) Translation memory broken on meta.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52148 summary (10Nemo) [16:20:44] 03(mod) Translation memory broken on meta.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52148 (10Nemo) [16:20:45] 03(mod) ttmserver-export.php: Empty $mTitle in OutputPage::parse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51956 (10Nemo) [16:21:24] Nikerabbit: do you know if there is a ticket for zinc migration? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51956#c2 [16:22:30] 03(NEW) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [16:24:52] 03(mod) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always in the language of the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:31:00] 03(mod) Add composer.json - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49126 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:35:42] 03(mod) Add composer.json - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49126 (10Nemo) [16:35:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Disable on pages which are maintained by the Translate extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50284 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [16:36:00] Nemo_bis: no [16:36:13] 03(mod) Summaries of FuzzyBot not always in the language of the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52142 (10Nemo) [16:36:58] 03(mod) Parsoid adding nowikis around colons preceded by a space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52035 (10ssastry) [16:37:09] oki [16:37:56] 03(mod) Add web font for the Pahlavi script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44076 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:39:30] 03(mod) Change name of Neapolitan language from "Nnapulitano" to "Napulitano" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43793 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:39:35] 03(mod) Change name of Neapolitan language from "Nnapulitano" to "Napulitano" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43793 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [16:42:20] Hi. I am creating a wiki that is going to act like a history book or timeline of things that happpened in our company. [16:43:12] My friend wants to create wiki pages entitled, "Category:April 12, 2013" (etc) and list all the events that happened on that particular day. [16:43:39] Hi orion. [16:43:42] He wants to have each MW page be a day of the year and list all events that happened on that day. [16:43:50] 03(mod) gerrit-wm no longer relays "Change abandoned" and 2+ inline comments events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51162 +comment (10federicoleva) [16:43:57] "Category:" is a reserved name in MediaWiki. [16:44:02] For... categories. ;-) [16:44:11] My idea was to have a MW page for each particular event that happened. [16:44:21] Oh, okay. [16:44:22] That would work. [16:44:28] Then you would just categorize each page. [16:45:02] Most importantly, he wants to have a linear timeline of events, so that people could use "Previous" and "Next links to read the wiki, like a history book./ [16:45:10] What is the best way to go about doing this? [16:45:21] Create individual pages. [16:45:24] Categorize them by date. [16:45:32] And then set up a simple navigation template. [16:45:51] Perhaps categorize them with a template. [16:45:59] So that you can dual-purpose the date. [16:47:25] orion: Does that make sense? [16:50:59] any one who can help me? [16:55:53] 03(NEW) Document gerritadmin@wikimedia.org (gerrit bot) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52150 enhancement; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [16:57:32] Elsie: hey, any idea when would chris be back ? [16:57:46] karan: what is the problem [16:57:47] ? [16:58:40] 03(NEW) hebrew wikiedpdia tools databases in tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52151 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [16:59:10] anubhav: Probably not until next week at the earliest. [17:01:47] Elsie: what happens if a GSoC mentor is not present for evaluation ? [17:02:26] Chaos, I assume. [17:02:30] Chris is on vacation. [17:02:33] I assume he mentioned this. [17:03:03] hmm [17:05:07] 03(NEW) debug feature does not work in orwell01 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52152 trivial; Tool Labs tools: lists; () [17:07:51] 03(mod) Document gerritadmin@wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52150 summary; +comment (10Chad H.) [17:10:41] 03(NEW) No examples in documentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52153 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [17:15:53] why do I see <prefs-math> in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering [17:16:33] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 normal->15enhancement; +easy +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [17:28:45] How do i get the username if i have the user id in API submodule? [17:29:43] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10Nemo) [17:33:06] 03(mod) Missing nowiki escaping when single quotes wrap new i/b tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52103 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:37:39] 03(mod) hebrew wikiedpdia tools databases in tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52151 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [17:39:25] Hello. I'm wondering if it is possible to change the default template used for File namespace pages when doing a new upload. I haven't been able to find anything about it through Google. [17:39:30] 03(NEW) monobook and rtl, ULS form (the one opened by the keyboard icon) is out of screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52154 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [17:40:03] need some guide to start debugging in php? [17:41:05] 03(mod) monobook and rtl, ULS form (the one opened by the keyboard icon) is out of screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52154 +comment (10fur.hewiki) [17:41:27] 03(mod) No examples in documentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52153 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [17:42:46] 03(mod) Protect Parsoid-generated token-names, about-ids, typeofs from conflicts with user-provided names. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48772 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:44:26] 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:44:28] 03(mod) CSS resize horizontal in the unit translation dialog is useless because this makes the textarea overflow the hints and triggers a FF bug; vertical isn't and doesn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48817 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:50:26] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: "Wikitext markup detected" message should disappear automatically when there's no more wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52155 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [17:50:31] 03(mod) Document gerritadmin@wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52150 +comment (10federicoleva) [18:01:46] 03(mod) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52035/2,publish does not load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45707 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:02:41] Re: How do i get the username if i have the user_id in API submodule? [18:06:06] does the new PLURAL work in JS now? https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/about_Mwe-upwiz-upload-count/reply_(6) [18:07:21] Nemo_bis: {{Plural:$1|ONE logo|$1 logos}} would work as expected [18:08:11] but you have to use .parse() on the message object [18:09:05] 03(mod) Change name of Neapolitan language from "Nnapulitano" to "Napulitano" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43793 (10Nemo) [18:10:10] oops, even works with mw.msg() [18:10:14] 03(mod) Change name of Neapolitan language from "Nnapulitano" to "Napulitano" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43793 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:10:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Incorrect tab text (create vs. edit) shown on Special:MovePage, Special:Undelete, others? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49000 +comment (10Francisco) [18:17:47] strange, ... works at Commons but not at translatewiki [18:17:57] :? [18:18:21] rillke: I mean specifically the 0= , 1= etc. syntax, mind you [18:19:44] rillke: thanks for your Translate patch, though I can't say anything on its merits :) [18:20:04] those resize issues are so annoying, but so tricky to fix [18:20:24] Nemo_bis: which 0 and 1-syntax? [18:21:12] mw.messages.set({ 'upwiz': '$1 of $2 {{PLURAL:$2|file|files}} uploaded' }); mw.msg('upwiz', 1, 1); --> "1 of 1 {{PLURAL:1|file|files}} uploaded" [18:21:27] at translatewiki [18:21:38] mw.messages.set({ 'upwiz': '$1 of $2 {{PLURAL:$2|file|files}} uploaded' }); mw.msg('upwiz', 1, 1); --> "1 of 1 file uploaded" [18:21:40] at commons [18:23:41] Ah, mw.loader.load('mediawiki.jqueryMsg') [18:23:58] and we have the output is the same as at commons [18:24:18] this fallback is not very intuitive... [18:24:50] it could at least complain with mw.log that something is missing... [18:28:02] rillke: see the link :) [18:29:33] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/about_Mwe-upwiz-upload-count [18:29:42] * rillke is confused by LQT [18:32:36] seems to work [18:34:06] mw.messages.set({ 'upwiz': '$1 of {{PLURAL:$2|0=zero files|1=one file|file|files}} uploaded' }); mw.msg('upwiz', 1, 0); --> [18:34:14] "1 of zero files uploaded" [18:34:30] stupid sample but... [18:34:53] mw.msg('upwiz', 1, 1); --> "1 of one file uploaded" [18:35:27] and mw.msg('upwiz', 1, 5); -->"1 of files uploaded" [18:35:42] so it should work, yes [18:37:12] Nemo_bis: ^^ [18:44:42] 03(mod) List of users who edited the page in enhanced RC/watchlist is clutter and superfluous - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51895 +comment (10Nemo) [18:46:28] 03(mod) List of users who edited the page in enhanced RC/watchlist is clutter and superfluous - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51895 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo) [18:59:12] 03(mod) Navigating between files gets exponentially more slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40793 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [19:05:28] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10yuvipanda) [19:15:53] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10krinklemail) [19:29:43] 03(NEW) History for annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52156 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Annotator; () [19:30:43] I'm working on developing a new skin and reading upon proper ResourceLoader usage.. all seems to be working, but is there a correct way to serve my styles and still benefit from versioned/permanently cachable stylesheets? [19:31:06] Elmer: Yes [19:31:09] (because OutputPage::addModuleStyles specifically says it won't do that) [19:31:18] out::addModules [19:31:30] be sure to define your skin style module as 'position' => 'top' [19:32:36] Krinkle: does that still enable stylesheets when no javascript is available? [19:32:47] NO [19:32:50] No* [19:33:38] Can't right now because of limitation in the browser\ [19:33:50] hmm, that's an annoying situation then [19:33:56] Putting versioned urls in the html means you get bigger caching issues [19:34:35] ah yeah, because you'd have to cache the cached url, and then there's trouble all the way down [19:34:52] Elmer: The solution is to 1) be realistic and stop caring so much about non-javascript, 2) Separate modules into basic core skin styles and anything that can do without, 3) use addModuleStyles for the core basics, and addModules for everything else [19:35:01] That's how we do it on Wikipedia for example, and in core with the Vector/Monobook skin. [19:35:11] They aren't uncached, just not as long as it could be. [19:35:41] true enough, non-js is a tiny fraction of the internet [19:35:48] Don't worry about it unless you're actually experiencing non-theoratical performance issues with the lesser-cached url for the basic stylesheet. [19:36:07] 03(mod) Cannot change language to translate in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51923 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [19:36:25] Krinkle: cool, thanks for the advice :) [19:36:28] yw [19:37:27] Krinkle: i enjoyed this (dutch tv show!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TRE5Ts5WoEM&t=814 (continues over to part 3) [19:37:56] re: local time discontinuities [19:39:10] 03(mod) ttmserver-export.php: Empty $mTitle in OutputPage::parse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51956 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [19:40:04] ori-l: thx [19:42:09] ori-l: Just out of curiosity, how did you figure out it was Dutch? [19:42:24] (aside from the subs which are obvious to me, I don't see any immediate clue) [19:44:38] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10federicoleva) [19:48:21] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10yuvipanda) [19:50:44] Krinkle: I'd say the subs are pretty clear even for us non-Dutch folk [19:51:10] Recognisable as Dutch? [19:51:28] Yeah, pretty much [19:52:29] "Ik geef een triviaal voorbeeld." You can't confuse that amount of vowels with another language. [19:52:46] Interesting [19:53:14] Not even German, Scandinavian or Italian? [19:53:46] Ich gebe ein triviales beispeil [19:53:54] Maybe perhaps Finnish. [19:54:03] Anyhow, I'm impressed. [19:54:09] Beispiel* [19:55:15] twkozlowski: lol [19:56:21] good try but Finnish words rarely end in consonants or use f or b [19:57:26] but they have a tendence to use a lot of vowels [19:57:43] Nikerabbit: "I give a trivial example" in casual Finnish? [20:10:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: removing spaces not registering as a change - or /working/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50756 +comment (10joedecker) [20:12:08] Krinkle: I actually didn't encounter it on YouTube; a friend let me borrow the DVDs and they were clearly identified as a VPRO production. But I'd like to think I'd have recognized it regardless. Dutch orthography is pretty distinct. [20:12:38] * Krinkle is watching it now from the start [20:18:13] Krinkle: annan tässä triviaalin esimerkin [20:20:11] Hm.. that for some reason looks like Turkish to me (due to the *ssä and *rkin) [20:20:13] Thanks :) [20:20:24] I like how it is triviaalin with double 'a', like in Dutch. [20:20:52] So I suppose it has similar pronunciation rules like Dutch (short 'a' vs long 'aa') [20:21:30] yes it has length distinction [20:28:43] 03(mod) 4-digits numbers in Spanish should not have a group separator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:28:46] 03(mod) 4-digits numbers in Spanish should not have a group separator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51157 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:35:35] 03(NEW) <languages> should be - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52157 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TranslationNotifications; () [20:39:59] Nikerabbit: do you know if it's OK to remove the solr role from vanadium? have you configured translatewiki to point to zinc, and is it working properly? [20:41:23] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage is a content message, should be user language msg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44492 +comment (10Nemo) [20:44:12] 03(mod) Document gerritadmin@wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52150 +comment (10innocentkiller) [20:46:20] 03(mod) Enable Wikitext for MediaWiki:Thumbnail_error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6044 +comment (10federicoleva) [20:46:41] 03(mod) gerrit-wm should suppress "jenkins-bot merge" instead of "CR+2 review" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46452 +comment (10innocentkiller) [20:48:23] ori-l: MaxSem tried but failed and translation memory is currently broken on meta at least [20:48:48] eeeeep. [20:48:59] well, it's still on vanadium; i haven't stopped it in any way. [20:49:07] 03(mod) User should be able to set fallback language(s) in preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11267 (10Nemo) [20:49:09] 03(mod) Improve message source fallback flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1495 (10Nemo) [20:49:10] was waiting for a confirmation that the migration was successful [20:50:39] ori-l: I could migrate it on my window tuesday, but https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51956 needs to be fixed and deployed first [20:52:02] ah, ok, cool. thanks for letting me know. [20:53:00] ori-l: not sure if I have enough time to coordinate that so quickly since I will return from my vacation on Monday [20:55:20] 03(mod) Messages for no/nb is failing in no.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37528 +comment (10Nemo) [21:01:10] 03(mod) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:01:12] 03(mod) Set wmgBabelCategoryNames for wikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52145 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:04:16] 03(mod) User should be able to set fallback language(s) in preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11267 +comment (10Tyler Romeo) [21:05:17] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:06:08] 03(mod) Interwikimedia links across language and project. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48035 +comment (10Nemo) [21:07:39] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:07:42] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:08:02] 03(mod) Custom text for interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5531 +comment (10Nemo) [21:08:04] 03(mod) Pages with more than one interwiki only show one single link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43671 (10Nemo) [21:10:49] 03(mod) Additional Namespace Aliases for dewikivoyage needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51794 -shell +shellpolicy; +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:11:07] 03(mod) Document how fallback language and message loading order in general works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38662 (10Nemo) [21:11:09] 03(mod) Improve message source fallback flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1495 (10Nemo) [21:14:05] I tried to copy Template:Infobox_Settlement http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_Wikipedia_infoboxes_tutorial using this, but when I tried to make an infobox it just shows this: {{#invoke:Infobox|infobox}}{{#ifeq:???????????????????????????????????????????????????|???????????????????????????????????????????????????||}}{{#switch:US-WA|CA-X|US-X|IN-X=}} [21:14:23] I also copied Template:Infobox of course [21:16:27] arthurdent: you willneeds extensions Scribunto and ParserFunctions to make most complicated templates from the Wikipedias work [21:16:31] will need* [21:16:34] !e Scribunto [21:16:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Scribunto [21:16:37] !e ParserFunctions [21:16:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:ParserFunctions [21:16:43] MatmaRex: thanks [21:18:32] oups, /me watching news [21:19:14] arthurdent: You'll also need some CSS and some patience. ;-) [21:20:41] * twkozlowski is hearing that there is a dramatic shortage of blood in Poland [21:25:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Slugs should be more obvious to the user that they're not "really" blank lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47790 +comment (10b) [21:25:33] MatmaRex: weren't you from Lublin Voivodeship? [21:27:29] nope [21:28:18] oh. [21:31:59] is there a highlighter for MW (template) syntax? Like the CodeEditor plugin provides for Javascript/CSS? [21:32:18] Yep. [21:32:20] !geshi [21:32:20] There are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [21:32:24] Elmer: not really, but there are a few gadgets [21:32:30] Oh, I can't read. [21:32:39] let me find 'em [21:32:53] Perhaps Ace will add MediaWiki template support, heh. [21:32:55] Elsie: I was so hoping I had skipped over that on the Geshi extension [21:33:18] MatmaRex: please :) [21:33:37] one is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/Syntax_highlighter [21:33:48] (any hints to external tools for linux are welcome too) [21:34:04] I feel like vim supports it. [21:34:08] Or one of those silly editors. [21:34:20] and another is https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matma_Rex/highlight.js [21:34:23] Really, you should just avoid MediaWiki templates. ;-) [21:34:35] dunno about external tools [21:34:35] Write Scribunto (Lua) modules instead. :-) [21:35:00] Elsie: yeah, but I seem to be the resident expert on them.. Scribunto I just read about.. seems interesting [21:35:16] mine marks the opening/closing [[ {{ }} ]], while remember the dot's supports html-like tags [21:35:17] though Lua is a bit of a stranger to me still [21:39:08] Elsie: do you know if Scribunto plays nice with SMW? That is, could I actually use it to create semantic annotations / queries etc? That's where I use most templates currently [21:39:27] NFI. [21:39:29] It should be fine. [21:40:36] Oh, I think ConfirmEdit is bundled, heh. [21:40:53] Except I used git. [21:54:26] oh cool, we can strip prefixes on {{Special:prefixindex}} [21:55:32] Oh? [21:56:06] Hashar's patch - f804a35bb83d9ed [21:56:22] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/71911/ [21:57:39] Neat. [22:05:21] 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798 +comment (10dsvyas) [22:15:45] argh! I installed parserfunctions and scribunto and i imported some infobox templates but when I try to put an infobox on a page i just get a bright red "Script error" and when I click on it, it says: "Script error: No such module" which hasn't turned anything up on google [22:16:17] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 (10Kropotkine113) [22:16:25] It presumably means you're missing something in the module namespace [22:16:34] what does that mean? [22:17:24] modules are the scribunto equivalent to templates [22:17:47] They go in pages starting with the word 'Module:' [22:17:53] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 +comment (10tomasz) [22:18:31] hmm... the mediawiki page doesn't say anything about which modules i need :/ [22:19:06] We also don't tell you what templates you need [22:19:09] since that's up to you [22:19:22] but it doesn't even mention modules, it mentions extracting templates from wikipedia [22:20:17] Perhaps the page is older (modules are relatively new). I don't know which page you're reading, perhaps there's an error on it [22:20:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_Wikipedia_infoboxes_tutorial [22:21:37] 03(NEW) added to contents of table cell - attempted escaping of table row markup? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52158 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:22:53] arthurdent: It only mentions templates, but stuff in module namespace should also be on the list of used templates [22:31:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Broken DivX browser plugin causes "myEventWatcherDiv" to be injected into the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51423 +comment (10Inez Korczyński) [22:35:22] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 (10orlodrim) [22:36:09] bawolff: which list? [22:36:31] The list of things that special:export includes [22:37:00] The list of templates at the bottom of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox&action=edit [22:38:23] 03(mod) Change the e-mail address of oversighters for ArticleFeedbackv5 on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52149 +comment (10tomasz) [22:46:33] bawolff: okay I got all that working, I think I might be missing some css or something, though [22:46:51] arthurdent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:46:54] Search for "infobox". [22:47:01] Elsie: thanks [22:47:08] No problem. [22:48:19] is /skins/common/commonContent.css a good place to put this? [22:49:15] No. [22:49:22] Put it on the same wiki page on your wiki. [22:49:31] Don't ever edit the CSS files in the skins/ directory directly. [22:49:39] Elsie: okay [22:49:39] You'll lose your changes when you upgrade if you do that. [22:49:43] :-) [23:03:35] 03(NEW) Inserting an existing reference puts it at the start of the paragraph instead of where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [23:04:38] 03(mod) Inserting an existing reference puts it at the start of the paragraph instead of where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159 (10Rastus Vernon) [23:13:03] somebody should totally fix http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:WikimediaDownload so that it allows linking to non mediawiki/extensions/ repos, like mediawiki/skins/ for example... [23:13:48] You do realize it's a wiki, I'm sure... [23:14:50] I meant "someone who is not me", obviously :-) [23:15:54] ashley: judt break it so it points to skin, they enjoyed breaking the svn part when we first moved ;p [23:16:14] heh [23:18:56] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi?format=advanced -- there isn't a product/component for custom skins, is there? [23:20:21] ashley: If its specific to the skin, I would say it should have a component in "extensions". If we're talking issues with making skins, then MediaWiki/Skins [23:21:15] bawolff: well "skin system sucks" is like a tracking bug that will be fixed on the day bug #1 is fixed, i.e. never :P but technically custom skins aren't "extensions" per se...and there can be conflicts w/ extension and skin naming [23:21:30] (think of Vector, for example -- there's a (core) skin with that name as well as an extension) [23:21:36] I think they're pretty close [23:21:44] Yeah, well the whole vector thing is stupid :P [23:22:30] a skin that I've worked on is called "Nimbus", but there's also an extension with the same name [23:22:53] (and Wikia's current default skin, Oasis, requires a meta-extension incidentally also called "Oasis"...) [23:22:59] I don't really see the distinction between skins and extensions. A parser hook vs an image handler extension have the same amount of difference as they would to a custom skin [23:24:05] * bawolff thinks things should have less confusing names [23:24:50] but i also think that about the whole flagged revisions vs pending changes mess [23:25:05] and quite a few other things, so that's also about as much of a pipe dream as bug 1 [23:32:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialogs should be repositionable/draggable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49969 +comment (10John Broughton) [23:32:48] 03(NEW) References in the list of existing references don't update after being edited in the current editing session - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52160 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [23:32:57] 03(mod) References in the list of existing references don't update after being edited in the current editing session - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52160 (10Rastus Vernon) [23:38:35] 03(NEW) Zuul: Certain events cause Zuul to trigger a pipeline with 0 jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52161 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [23:39:36] 03(mod) Zuul: Certain events cause Zuul to trigger a pipeline with 0 jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52161 +comment (10krinklemail) [23:42:13] 03(mod) Zuul: Certain events cause Zuul to trigger a pipeline with 0 jobs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52161 +comment (10krinklemail)