[00:00:03] japrrpaj: if you contact your local WikiMedia Chapters, most already do training courses and events [00:04:51] Hello.. Do wikimedia foundation folk hang out here? this channel was mentioned in a job add http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/37646/front-end-developer-analytics-wikimedia-foundation [00:05:22] But this seems like it's probably more about mediawiki the wiki software? [00:05:32] ad* [00:05:56] pomke: yes, we do :) many of us are in hong kong for wikimania 2013 (http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_page). there's a #wikimedia-analytics channel, too. [00:06:11] pomke: did you have any questions? [00:07:55] Yes :) Is it a nice company to work for? I'm from Australia, if I applied for the job linked above would I have many people in my TZ I could chat with? etc.. It also lists no salary range, I was wondering if there was a vague range they had in mind :) [00:08:45] Also about the interview process I guess, do they do code tests or just look through your github stuff? [00:09:20] And any info about maybe a diversity policy (although I could probably ferret that one out myself) [00:09:34] I'm not sure about the salary range. I like working here very much, and yes, there are several Australians about :) [00:10:08] pomke: it depends on the position, but usually both (re: code tests & looking at code samples) [00:10:19] * pomke nodnods. [00:12:09] there's also a large and vibrant community of developers who aren't affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation who develop the software too, and most developers regard themselves as part of that larger whole too. You can subscribe or browse the archives of the wikitech-l mailing list (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l) to get a sense of how people interact. [00:13:10] ori-l: I'll take a look, thanks a lot for your help :) [00:14:08] pomke: np! do you have a github link? I'll keep an eye out for your application, if you decide to send one. [00:16:44] I'm pomke on github, it probably needs a tidy up though [00:17:03] I've been pushing a lot of stuff to bitbucket recently because they have free private repos [00:17:17] I made pangurpad.com if that helps [00:20:07] pomke: cool! i'll take a peek. i'm running off, but feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions (ori@wikimedia.org) [00:20:55] ori-l: thanks ! ^_^ [00:32:04] 03(mod) Multiple comments on a single line are interpreted as a blank line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41756 +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [00:32:19] pomke: Poke around on https://wikimediafoundation.org to get an idea about some of the larger WMF organization goals and policies [00:33:00] I'm a very new hire myself (day 7) and found a lot out about the company from that site [00:33:25] how are you finding it? :) [00:34:06] It's pretty cool so far. Bit of a learning curve to climb but I'm making progress [00:34:30] Is the hiring process fairly painless? or long and protracted? [00:35:05] It was about average I'd say. I applied at the start of June and started work last week of July [00:35:28] cool [00:35:38] There was a lot of good contact with HR along the way [00:37:12] My route want something like: application, email contact, phone contact, screening interview, interview with hiring manager, code project, phone interview with team lead, 6+ hours of onsite interviews, offer letter [00:37:47] code project? [00:37:50] Heh. [00:37:53] you had to write a little app or something? [00:38:13] Basically I had to do a code review of a tarball they sent me [00:38:26] ah ok [00:42:39] 03(mod) Multiple comments on a single line are interpreted as a blank line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41756 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:42:41] 03(mod) Multiple comments on a single line are interpreted as a blank line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41756 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [00:54:15] 03(mod) Special:MobileDiff highlight whole section even if change one word only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52494 normal->major; summary (10Qiyue2001) [01:00:17] 03(mod) Special:MobileDiff highlight whole section even if change one word only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52494 +comment (10qiyue2001) [01:02:04] * mooeypoo waves at James_F  [01:06:41] 03(NEW) mw.clone causes script error when used on a table returned from mw.loadData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52592 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Scribunto; () [01:07:34] 03(mod) Special:MobileDiff highlight whole section even if change one word only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52494 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon) [02:02:16] 03(mod) Implement work-arounds for templated table cell rendering issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50603 +comment (10gwicke) [02:15:33] Let's kick off the dev camp with a ResourceLoader mystery...http://paste.marktraceur.info/157 [02:15:46] I want to load a JavaScript module, with its dependency, if a file exists on the page. [02:15:59] But it's either not getting registered properly or doesn't load. [02:16:07] A point at the right place to debug would be a good start. [02:16:27] CC RoanKattouw_away TrevorParscal [02:40:49] 03(NEW) Increase chunked upload size limit to support longer videos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52593 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [02:40:58] 03(mod) Increase chunked upload size limit to support longer videos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52593 (10Greg Grossmeier) [02:42:24] 03(NEW) Adding two references in a section-edit put one of them at the start of the entire page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52594 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [02:46:34] Just sent in my resume for a position with ya'll. [02:49:25] imrobert: cool, which? [02:49:33] neat [02:49:41] Frontend Engineer for analytics [02:49:49] neat-o [02:49:58] greg-g: indeed [02:50:08] I thought it was interesting that it listed Flask experience as a plus [02:50:21] Since most of mediawiki is built on PHP, right? [02:50:41] pretty much it all [02:50:52] though, the analytics team is also developing their own external tools [02:51:41] greg-g: Is there somewhere I could read a little more about the analytics team? [02:51:45] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation from 2.4.x CVS to the latest version (3.2.6) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Keegan Peterzell) [02:52:50] mhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics [02:52:51] aharoni: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jeroen_De_Dauw/LocalSettings.php [02:54:01] Wikimedia has an analytics team? [02:54:14] greg-g: perfect, thanks! [02:55:17] 03(NEW) Wikimedia editors aren't automatically enrolled in Bugzilla, reducing VE bug reporting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52595 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [02:56:04] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation from 2.4.x CVS to the latest version (3.2.9) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 summary (10Ryan (Rjd0060)) [02:59:47] Elsie: har har [03:01:25] greg-g: Do you know where I can find pageview stats for the "Barack Obama" article on the English Wikipedia? [03:01:43] I checked stats.wikimedia.org, but didn't see anything. [03:02:41] Elsie: you know, I don't. But not because it doesn't (maybe) exist. Just because I haven't looked. [03:02:53] neither confirm nor deny [03:02:57] :) [03:03:06] There's a whole analytics team. I wonder what they work on. [03:03:17] It can't all be Rilke poetry, can it? [03:05:22] Elsie: well, I think Kraken is what will be that source of info, if I understand correctly [03:05:29] Elsie: also #wikimedia-analytics ;) [03:05:43] * greg-g knows you're in there [03:06:44] there is no place that does not see you [03:07:12] greg-g: Kraken is vaporware. [03:07:59] * greg-g moves /Kraken to /Duke_Nukem_Forever [03:08:57] What do they call it? A white whale? [03:09:07] Or perhaps the invisible pink unicorn. [03:09:41] white whale, yeah [03:10:52] 03(mod) make safe for phpunit dies with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52229 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [03:11:18] mogge [03:13:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.stop() called without a subsequent call to ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.start() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47793 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:14:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.stop() called without a subsequent call to ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.start() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47793 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:31:37] 03(mod) Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation from 2.4.x CVS to the latest version (3.2.9) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [03:44:27] 03(mod) Wikimedia editors aren't automatically enrolled in Bugzilla, reducing VE bug reporting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52595 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [03:44:27] 03(mod) add Bugzilla to unified login (SUL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14487 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [03:48:04] 03(NEW) Pages with short titles are often indicated as non-existing pages in the link box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52596 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [03:51:22] Anyone awake? Got an issue.. [03:51:33] My wiki was setup as a domain.com/subfolder [03:51:36] !ask [03:51:36] Yes, #mediawiki has a lot of people idling. If they were all talking, there'd be no on-topic discussions at all. The channel can be social but is in no way required to be. If you take offense at the silence, you may wish to find a more social channel. If you need help, just ask, and please don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time, see !ask [03:51:45] recent switched to a sub domain [03:51:51] now images are broken.. [03:51:57] its still looking for the sub folder [03:53:26] Milenko: sub.domain..org/wiki/Page , right .. not just sub.domain/Page [03:53:34] arg, laag [03:53:45] No its subdomain/Page [03:54:10] that's not really recommended, lemme find a link [03:54:33] !botbrain [03:54:33] Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot [03:54:56] !nullpath [03:54:56] Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [03:55:03] mutante: ^ :-) [03:55:03] thanks Elsie :) [03:55:38] there you go Milen see above and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [03:55:50] hm ok [03:55:51] sorry, i'm so lagged, skipping cahracters [03:56:04] thats an easy fix lol [03:56:13] public_html/wiki/wiki [03:56:21] so itd be wiki.domain.com/wiki [03:56:37] Milenko: the trick is not NOT really use "wiki" in the filesystem [03:56:37] have "w" [03:56:46] and the URLs will be /wiki/ [03:56:50] sounds good [03:56:56] ill do that [03:57:16] cool [03:57:52] wait.. [03:58:00] Ok.. i just realized something [03:58:01] lol [03:58:12] my subdomain is set to /w [03:58:24] it'll still show up as sub.domain/page [03:59:19] 03(mod) Pages with short titles are often indicated as non-existing pages in the link box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52596 +comment (10sandrobt.wiki) [04:00:39] Milenko: is it this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Moving_a_wiki_from_.2Fwiki_to_.2Fw [04:00:47] 03(mod) VE should implement categories like hotcat does it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52384 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:01:28] mutante: currently the subdomain is setup to public_html/wiki where /wiki is the document root [04:01:37] so going to sub.domain will load the wiki [04:01:44] not sub.domain/wiki/index [04:02:18] you dont want /wiki as docroot [04:02:35] i mean I can rename it [04:02:37] Rename the installation directory of MediaWiki on your server from /wiki to /w. [04:02:40] Set $wgScriptPath in LocalSettings.php to "/w" and remove (or comment out) any definition of $wgArticlePath (this variable will be changed again when setting up Short URLs, further on) [04:03:08] ugh, yeah, there are many ways to do this different, ,but i'd just follow the recommended way as on wikipedia [04:03:19] (since you seem to have root) [04:04:55] Ok I should say MediaWiki is in a separate folder from the main domain [04:05:00] thats where the confusion is coming from [04:06:09] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:07:33] mutante: this is what im trying to fix, http://wiki.gamecollecting.net [04:07:47] its looking for images in wiki.gamecollecting.net/wiki [04:07:52] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 +comment (10Aaron Schulz) [04:08:10] there is no subfolder, the subdomain goes right to MediaWiki [04:08:15] 03(mod) deleteBatch.php, given a File: redirect, deletes both the redirect and the target's uploaded file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52587 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:08:24] 03(mod) Revert
hacks in content. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52585 (10Andre Klapper) [04:08:29] 03(mod) Linebreaks are mishandled in
and
  • - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6200 (10Andre Klapper) [04:08:37] it initially was setup at mikeweekley.com/wiki while i configured things to test [04:08:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Label for beta notice/menu should use mixed case not all caps ("Beta" not "BETA") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52586 normal->minor; +easy (10Andre Klapper) [04:11:12] 03(mod) When user makes new password, the user is stopped by error: "incorrect password", when the password is correct (SQLite) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52570 (10jeffwang16) [04:11:53] 03(mod) fdc.wikimedia.org Atom feed url for watchlist is not working in rss reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52516 normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [04:14:16] 03(mod) fdc.wikimedia.org Atom feed url for watchlist is not working in rss reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52516 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [04:21:18] 03(mod) Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in Profiler.php on line 313 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52333 (10Andre Klapper) [04:21:26] 03(mod) Call to a member function getParserOutput() on a non-object in FlaggedRevs.class.php on line 575 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52362 (10Andre Klapper) [04:22:24] 03(mod) AbuseFilter doesn't disable filters for safety measure, but says it does! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52525 (10Andre Klapper) [04:22:37] 03(mod) deleteBatch.php, given a File: redirect, deletes both the redirect and the target's uploaded file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52587 +comment (10mediawiki) [04:24:59] 03(mod) When user makes new password, the user is stopped by error: "incorrect password", even when the password is correct - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52570 (10jeffwang16) [04:27:31] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 (10jeffwang16) [04:28:44] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 +comment (10aschulz4587) [04:32:12] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 (10jeffwang16) [04:33:26] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 +comment (10aschulz4587) [04:41:38] 03(mod) Add support for Redis (instead of memcached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52589 (10jeffwang16) [04:45:02] Elsie: are you looking for the raw files? http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/ [04:45:41] * Nemo_bis still has http://dammit.lt/wikistats/ in the bookmarks [04:45:58] How do I fix my image links after restoring? [04:46:04] Thats the issues im trying to figure out.. [04:46:21] images are no longer in domain.com/wiki its just domain.com/imagesblahblahblah [05:03:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.stop() called without a subsequent call to ve.ce.SurfaceObserver.prototype.start() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47793 +comment (10inez) [05:05:57] aharoni: ? [05:06:05] hexmode: a Hebrew wiki about social rights. http://www.kolzchut.org.il/en/Main_Page [05:13:17] 03(NEW) Keyboard shortcut for code element/style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52597 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [05:13:25] 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut for code element/style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52597 normal->15enhancement (10Matthew Flaschen) [05:14:38] 03(mod) Display the categories on the mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:14:41] 03(mod) Display the categories on the mobile site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22660 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:23:49] JeroenDeDauw: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/read/ [05:24:49] 03(NEW) Coordinates do not work with normal inclusion syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52598 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [05:29:10] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Get rid of IVStore check in toDomElements in GCNode subclasses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52599 normal; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; () [05:29:41] 03(mod) Intermittent out of memory crash on Nexus One / Android 2.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50509 (10Brion Vibber) [05:47:10] 03(mod) Missing hover-in event causes inconsistent display in stats table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36692 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:48:01] 03(mod) remove category code from VE, as there is better options: hotcat, inlinecategorizer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52384 (10rupert.thurner) [05:48:52] 03(mod) "Exception Caught: Language not set" with messagegroupstats WebAPI query and dynamic group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51761 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:49:30] 03(mod) [TUX] Proofread tooltip stuck in wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46875 (10Siebrand) [05:50:39] 03(mod) [TUX] Proofread tooltip stuck in wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46875 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:56:01] 03(mod) Dropping ss_admins on wmf databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49192 +comment (10Sean Pringle) [05:59:03] What is length limit for a string in Scribunto (Lua) if any .. ideas? [05:59:04] 03(NEW) Not possible to view gadget source? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52600 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; () [06:00:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add keyboard shortcut for code element/style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52597 summary (10James Forrester) [06:03:19] 03(mod) Not possible to view gadget source? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52600 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [06:09:07] 03(mod) Not possible to view gadget source? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52600 +comment (10spam) [06:35:54] Just wondered if anyone knew the Scribunto string size limit as I created a single parameter to a template that invokes a Lua module -- That single parameter being passed contains multiple sets of like named parameters.. Thought someone might have an idea... [06:44:46] 03(mod) enter_bug.cgi?format=guided not properly configured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36762 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [06:57:39] 03(mod) fdc.wikimedia.org Atom feed url for watchlist is not working in rss reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52516 +comment (10arjunaraoc) [07:02:18] 03(mod) "Exception Caught: Language not set" with messagegroupstats WebAPI query and dynamic group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51761 (10Siebrand) [07:02:26] 03(mod) make safe for phpunit dies with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52229 +comment (10hashar) [07:03:37] php unit can make safes? [07:09:03] 03(mod) make safe for phpunit dies with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52229 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [07:15:47] 03(mod) make safe for phpunit dies with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52229 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [07:21:37] gwicke: My first step in taking over parsoid: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78013/ [07:21:55] 03(mod) Sections generated by tag extension do not show up in TOC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45317 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [07:24:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should detect template parameters automatically instead of using hand-written TemplateData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52135 (10kipod) [07:25:00] 03(mod) when tempaltedata does not exist, API should return auto-generated "templatedata" struct - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52581 (10kipod) [07:27:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Toolbar overlaps top of page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52326 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [07:29:19] 03(NEW) Good - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52601 normal; Analytics: gerrit-stats; () [07:31:29] 03(mod) Request for "Concept:" namespace to be created on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52528 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:31:32] 03(mod) Request for "Concept:" namespace to be created on test.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52528 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:36:18] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Edit notices don't scroll - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52602 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [07:36:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit notices don't scroll - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52602 (10Chris McKenna) [07:37:00] 03(mod) Visual Editor: dialogs do not horizontally scroll in narrow windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51755 (10Chris McKenna) [07:50:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add keyboard shortcut for code element/style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52597 +comment (10mflaschen) [07:54:13] Do you guys have any suggestions on how to make wiki browsing easier? I have a wiki that is hierarchical with pages and categories. What I want is a way to give the user a feel on where he currently is in the wiki. I've tried CategoryTree, but I can't really configure it so that I'm happy with it [07:55:49] 03(mod) Install VE August update on hewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52552 +comment (10This, that and the other) [08:03:15] sane: maybe this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryBreadcrumb no idea if / how it works though [08:06:19] 03(mod) Language variants currently point to the same canonical URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52429 +i18n (10Andre Klapper) [08:09:14] 03(mod) Unnecessary restriction for property creation on testwikidatawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51637 +comment (10This, that and the other) [08:09:15] 03(mod) The on-page notice about transcluded files or templates having outstanding changes doesn't appear in the edit notices, unlike all the other status notes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52440 (10Andre Klapper) [08:09:19] 03(mod) Flood flag for zh.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52546 (10This, that and the other) [08:09:53] 03(mod) Flood flag for zh.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52546 +comment (10This, that and the other) [08:10:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Caption of a thumb image starting with a link means link inspector icon appears in slug, confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49680 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [08:11:23] apergos: Yes, that is helpful. =) [08:13:45] 03(mod) Good - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52601 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:14:14] 03(NEW) Add new components under Analytics product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52603 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [08:14:35] 03(mod) [iOS] Tapping done on login from doesn't trigger log in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49031 (10Monte Hurd) [08:14:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as strikethrough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51610 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:14:49] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as strikethrough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51610 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:15:58] 03(mod) Commons iOS app: photo library picker should be done in-app using AssetLibrary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45466 (10Monte Hurd) [08:17:26] 03(mod) "My uploads list" slow to load and incorrect order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48027 (10Monte Hurd) [08:21:08] 03(mod) Allow replacing file by changing the file name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52580 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [08:23:23] 03(mod) Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52564 major->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [08:25:21] 03(mod) Implement mw:Extension:RandomInCategory on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52530 +comment (10This, that and the other) [08:25:24] 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235 (10This, that and the other) [08:39:30] 03(NEW) ParserOutput::setProperty with an array sometimes fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52605 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; () [08:40:50] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10Volker Haas) [08:44:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as strikethrough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51610 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:48:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Tool to set/unset text as strikethrough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51610 +comment (10James Forrester) [08:53:15] 03(mod) Update tours for new edit tab selectors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52476 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:53:18] 03(mod) Update tours for new edit tab selectors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52476 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:53:54] 03(mod) ParserOutput::setProperty with an array sometimes fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52605 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:53:56] 03(mod) ParserOutput::setProperty with an array sometimes fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52605 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:55:22] 03(mod) ParserOutput::setProperty with an array sometimes fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52605 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:55:24] 03(NEW) tablesorter doesn't depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; () [08:56:21] 03(mod) ParserOutput::setProperty with an array sometimes fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52605 +comment (10Legoktm) [08:58:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add keyboard shortcut for code element/style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52597 +comment (10jforrester) [09:00:40] 03(mod) tablesorter doesn't depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 (10Krinkle) [09:02:59] 03(NEW) Hooks for extensions to document parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52607 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TemplateData; () [09:05:33] 03(mod) tablesorter doesn't depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:05:35] 03(mod) tablesorter doesn't depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:06:11] 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [09:06:26] 03(mod) Hooks for extensions to document parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52607 (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:24:31] 03(NEW) Template gets removed without editing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52608 major; VisualEditor: General; () [09:25:07] 03(mod) Hooks for extensions to document parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52607 (10Matthew Flaschen) [09:33:04] 03(mod) Clean up Etherpad situation on Wikimedia servers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46539 +comment (10aklapper) [09:37:17] 03(mod) Clean up Etherpad situation on Wikimedia servers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46539 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:11:41] 03(mod) remove category code from VE, as there is better options: hotcat, inlinecategorizer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52384 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:19:55] 03(mod) when templatedata does not exist, API should return auto-generated "templatedata" struct - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52581 summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:22:05] 03(mod) Add links to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-done]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52590 (10Andre Klapper) [10:22:32] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10Phoenixoverride) [10:26:12] 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:27:39] 03(mod) Adding project identification variable to AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41172 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [10:33:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: resizing submit feedback dialog causes submit and cancel buttons to disappear/become detached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52588 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [11:30:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusions editor should have a special mode for Parser Function and Magic Word calls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50855 (10Legoktm) [11:31:01] 03(mod) Hooks for extensions to document parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52607 (10Legoktm) [11:34:22] 03(mod) AbuseFilter doesn't disable filters for safety measure, but says it does! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52525 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [11:43:24] 03(NEW) When getting TemplateData, VE automatically adds "Template:" even if another namespace is provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52609 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [11:52:09] 03(NEW) action=opensearch converts "Project:About", but not "Wikipedia:About" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52610 normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; () [11:52:31] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10volker.haas) [12:08:02] 03(mod) Implement mw:Extension:RandomInCategory on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52530 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [12:12:36] 03(mod) Implement mw:Extension:RandomInCategory on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52530 +comment (10This, that and the other) [12:21:45] 03(mod) Sub Directory Reverse Proxy breaks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52400 (10animedbz25) [12:22:47] 03(mod) Clean up Etherpad situation on Wikimedia servers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46539 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:24:47] 03(mod) Clean up Etherpad situation on Wikimedia servers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46539 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [12:27:57] Lol we need more etherpads! [12:31:27] we need an etherwiki [12:32:28] I heard you like etherpad, so I setup a etherpad for your etherpad [12:34:16] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10Phoenixoverride) [12:37:30] 03(mod) Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52564 +comment (10filceolaire) [12:41:09] 03(mod) Allow sitelinks to wikipedia and wikivoyage redirect pages to fix the 'Bonnie and Clyde problem' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52564 +comment (10filceolaire) [12:55:41] 03(mod) Wikisource page ns. post-edit confirmation interferes with subsequent .djvu page display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52591 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:27:28] 03(mod) Same ID used when merging two case-different users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52549 +comment (10Carl Lewis) [13:32:12] 03(mod) Same ID used when merging two case-different users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52549 +comment (10mail) [13:35:19] 03(NEW) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611 critical; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [13:35:38] Is there a Bootstrap _3_ theme for Mediawiki? I know there is one for BS2... but, 3? [13:35:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE should detect template parameters automatically instead of using hand-written TemplateData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52135 +comment (10fur.hewiki) [13:36:55] 03(mod) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611 +comment (10rkaldari) [13:37:43] does somone know where is the room of legoktm? [13:37:46] pm me [13:39:02] 03(mod) Add "botadmin" user group on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52578 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:39:02] 03(mod) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611 +comment (10rkaldari) [13:39:06] 03(mod) Add "botadmin" user group on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52578 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:39:23] 03(mod) Deploy BayesianFilter Extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52574 (10Andre Klapper) [13:43:46] 03(mod) mw.clone causes script error when used on a table returned from mw.loadData - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52592 +comment (10bjorsch) [13:55:09] 03(mod) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611 (10Andre Klapper) [14:02:53] #archlinux [14:03:19] ups sorry forgot the join command ;) [14:03:48] Hello, I installed mediawiki to /var/www/mediawiki-1.21-1/ Now I would like to have short urls like http://wiki/w/ .Should I move my installation according to this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Moving_a_wiki_from_.2Fwiki_to_.2Fw ? [14:19:33] Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the secret is for using the family tree template [14:19:40] 03(mod) Customise linktrail for Gujarati (gu) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48798 +comment (10dsvyas) [14:29:50] Ulfr_, what template? MediaWiki doesn't come with any built-in templates AFAIK... [14:30:05] Krenair: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Family_tree [14:30:27] Krenair: I know it's not build in but there's no documentation for using it on other wikis [14:30:45] most templates don't have documentation for using them on other wikis [14:33:47] Oh that's obnoxious. The capitilization was off on the template names. [14:38:38] 03(mod) Allow in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52468 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:41:59] 03(mod) Allow in wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52468 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [14:42:51] 03(NEW) CirrusSearch's forceSearchIndex --deletes isn't finding any deletes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52612 major; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; () [15:15:02] 03(mod) SB 20130226 : #show is losing formatting of text properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52318 (10pierro78) [15:15:14] 03(mod) [SD] Inject Header and Footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52439 (10planetenxin) [15:24:19] 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter should depend on jquery.mwExtension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52606 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:29:16] 03(NEW) Upgrading to 1.21, populateRevisionSha1.php fails to populate rev_sha1 fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52613 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; () [15:33:22] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes JavaScript: clicking arrow should keep it in focus, keyboard accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17616 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:33:24] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes JavaScript: clicking arrow should keep it in focus, keyboard accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17616 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [15:34:27] 03(mod) redis::ganglia collides with python-redis package - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52540 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:36:59] here's a question. An AbuseFilter message that came with the extension gets an implicit
    wrapping which doesn't appear in the article source if you edit it. However, creating a new one through the interface doesn't give the custom message the same treatment. Is it appropriate to put the div directly into the article source so that they look consistent? [15:38:28] examples http://doomwiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning vs http://doomwiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-talk-warning [15:41:58] QuasAtWork: MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning does not exist (the page hasn't been created), the text comes from the default messages. This is the "difference" between both, although strange [15:43:29] I see. [15:44:10] we're on an old MediaWiki version so I wouldn't want you to waste too much time looking into it if it's a glitch but, thanks. [15:44:29] several attempts to upgrade to 1.18 have failed miserably so we're still stuck on 1.16.2 [15:45:07] define "failed miserably" (I'm just curious) [15:45:30] referential integrity failures after the database upgrade [15:46:19] to be honest none of us know what we're doing though [15:50:36] 03(mod) Upgrading to 1.21, populateRevisionSha1.php fails to populate rev_sha1 fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52613 (10zsaigol) [16:02:08] 03(mod) deleteBatch.php, given a File: redirect, deletes both the redirect and the target's uploaded file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52587 +comment (10Dan Barrett) [16:41:09] 03(NEW) Fatal error when adding already existing sitelink with Special:SetSiteLink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52614 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [16:51:18] 03(mod) Dump files not being updated on /public - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52584 +comment (10ariel) [16:59:25] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10greg) [17:03:28] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10Phoenixoverride) [17:17:41] 03(mod) Corrected words aren't bolded in suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52286 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [17:19:54] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10rhalsell) [17:20:50] 03(mod) PDF generation skips images marked as "fair use" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50948 +comment (10greg) [17:24:20] 03(mod) When user makes new password, the user is stopped by error: "incorrect password", even when the password is correct - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52570 (10jeffwang16) [17:24:44] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10Rob Halsell) [17:40:00] Hi all :) [17:40:16] Does anyone has knowledge about AbuseFilter? [17:49:26] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10rhalsell) [17:50:40] How can I migrate users from one install ot another ? [18:00:56] 03(NEW) save-failed: edit-already-exists with api action=wbeditentity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52615 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [18:02:02] ori-l, your patch broke :( [18:02:29] sry, if i repeat me, but my computer crashed, so i wasn't able to read a message is any :/ [18:02:45] i didn't realise my setting was off when testing. Need urgent fix [18:03:36] Has anybody knowledge about AbuseFilter? I have a problem, the filter i created does not do any action when new article created, if edited another article in same namespace with same text, then the filter do action :( [18:06:29] ONeill: post the rules on dpaste so we could take a look [18:07:53] https://dpaste.de/cbbvv/ this is the rule [18:08:29] like i said, if the page edited (not created new), the rule do action, if i create the rule new, the article will be saved :( [18:10:51] ONeill: go to Special:AbuseFilter/examine and find the edit when creating the page, There you can examine all variables. Maybe action is different when the article is created? [18:11:52] Vulpix: Ok, one minute plz :) [18:13:02] Vulpix: no, action is edit (Aktion (action) edit) [18:14:13] well, Isee you're using all_links like a number, when it isn't [18:16:08] ähm, you mean? What comparative is better to check if external links added? [18:16:28] but if this is the fault, then then why the edit is blocked by filter? :/ [18:19:03] @Vulpix: I have a testinstance from wiki, if you want, there you can test by yourself :? [18:19:14] that's somehow translated into PHP code, which does some auto-conversions of types [18:19:45] all_links > 0 maybe translates 0 into text, that may be lexicography "lower" than all_links [18:21:43] hmm, then maybe "all_links != ''" is better?! [18:22:03] well, it should be pretty easy to test. When you examine each change, it should be a textbox to put a rule and check if the edit matches or nor [18:22:33] ONeill: try length(all_links) > 0 [18:24:22] 03(mod) Edit summaries for editing special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52390 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:24:30] 03(mod) Edit summaries for editing special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52390 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:25:14] Vulpix: no, the same problem like before, if i delete the page and recreate, i can insert the text i want. If i edit the created text and add "test", the edit is blocked by abusefilter :( [18:26:00] under the "examine changes" page, test each ondition one by one until you find which one is failing [18:27:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Edit summary box should be a text input box and not textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52133 (10Quiddity) [18:27:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: For edit summary field, give users an auto-fill drop-down (or similar) of recent edit summaries they've used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48274 (10Quiddity) [18:28:40] Vulpix: all condition match [18:28:51] -> http://services.go2tech.de/Spezial:Missbrauchsfilter/examine/8193 [18:31:07] Platonides: Hi [18:34:18] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10hashar) [18:34:47] ONeill: looks like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50869 [18:40:01] @Vulpix: Yes, i have tested a new filter with new_size > 0 as onliest rule and the creation of page is blocked, so, if i understand right, blocking with rule added_links is not possible for now? So, for nwo, my only solution is to remove this rule and hope, that the other lines are enough? :) [18:41:14] ONeill: I'm not sure if just adding new_size > 0 to the conditions will make all other rules work as normal [18:41:29] ok, wait i will test ;) [18:41:37] please :) [18:43:59] @Vulpix: no, unhappily, the rule only block edit if the article is already created :( [18:46:43] ONeill: you may need to apply this patch to your installation https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/67043/1/AbuseFilter.class.php (I don't tknow if it's already included on the latest release of the extension) [18:50:34] Vulpix: Thanks! :D I missunderstood the patch as i read it first, the title->exist must be deleted, i thought it must be added :) Now, (i have delted the confition in the class.php) the filter blocks action when the page is new created :) THANKS for your help! [18:54:29] you're welcome, I haven't expected finding a bug for that [18:55:29] me too :) but thanks for your help and that you "show me the way" :D [19:08:13] hi. is it possible to force resourceloader on wikipedia load a module without JS? [19:08:30] like the configs can be done through gadget settings [19:15:43] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10Rob Halsell) [19:39:15] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10tim) [20:12:32] 03(mod) HHVM doesn't compile on Vagrant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49789 +comment (10tylerromeo) [20:12:42] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10federicoleva) [20:13:20] 03(mod) git.wikimedia.org (gitblit) is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51769 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [20:16:12] stupid google for DDOSing websites [20:16:54] I've seen google indexing at gazillions of pages per minute [20:17:47] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10cananian) [20:19:38] 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 +comment (10cananian) [20:31:07] 03(mod) [Regression] Redirects on file repository no longer work on local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52200 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:31:11] 03(mod) [Regression] Redirects on file repository no longer work on local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52200 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:35:45] 03(mod) Calculated Age of persons can become outdated until next cache purge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49803 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:45:27] 03(NEW) Should use semantically correct and instead of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52616 normal; MediaWiki extensions: wikidiff2; () [20:52:39] 03(mod) Provide metadata support on Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17503 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [20:57:44] omg bawolff, fantastics :) [20:58:04] going to be a bit hacky without proper metadata storage, but hey [21:01:53] Basically, we kind of want to create a pop-up/lightbox media viewer thing ( https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/multimedia/cards/8 ) [Still in the early stages, I think fabrice is going to go around wikimania asking for feedback on this idea], and a pre-req for that is actually getting useful info out of a file description page [21:02:39] +the billion and one other reasons why such a thing would be useful [21:11:04] 03(NEW) Add rel='nofollow' on links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52617 normal; Parsoid: General; () [21:11:47] 03(mod) Interleaved i and a tag syntax breaks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44476 (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:12:59] 03(mod) Add rel='nofollow' on links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52617 +comment (10cananian) [21:28:30] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10CalakWiki) [21:36:42] 03(mod) Images: link parameter should handle external urls correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49293 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:41:45] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: nowiki-ing and removing content when it encounters incorrect markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52618 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [21:44:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support editing of sections inside a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48429 +comment (10kipod) [21:53:53] git / gerrit question: my recent commits have a wrong commit date (January 2013), how can this happen ? [21:54:30] see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/55287/ [21:56:20] Wikinaut: how is it that that change starts with patchset 11? [21:56:53] because i started with git review -D and the deleted the first unpublished drafts [21:57:05] that's okay so far [21:57:07] but [21:57:21] you can delete unpublished drafts? [21:57:28] yes. try it [21:57:33] the whole draft feature seems odd to me [21:57:38] no [21:57:42] I like it, [21:57:44] but [21:57:54] let's concentrate to the question of the date [21:58:05] I remember that I changed the author name [21:58:13] in one of the commits [21:58:27] because I took over the development [21:58:35] perhaps since then [21:58:37] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10This, that and the other) [21:59:30] bawolff: I do now understand! [21:59:35] I would guess, that you are looking at authorDate, instead of commitDate [21:59:41] that's good [21:59:49] yes [22:00:06] I just checked this in the commits. I will repair it [22:00:48] so that "git log" gives the correct output. Currently it shows only the (initial) authorDate and my name [22:01:01] will switch that perhaps back [22:01:11] "never touch a running system" [22:01:11] git log --pretty=fuller [22:01:15] should show both [22:01:34] yep, thx [22:01:41] you made me happy [22:01:50] but really, I doubt anyone actually looks at commit dates [22:02:19] so, do you also suggest to leave everything with that specific 55287 ? [22:02:38] ? [22:02:40] If it was me, I wouldn't bother [22:02:43] ok [22:02:46] bye [22:03:00] <^d> bawolff: The whole draft system is odd. [22:03:08] no. I like it [22:03:16] <^d> I understand that. [22:03:19] <^d> It's very poorly implemented though. [22:03:29] <^d> And makes me mad sometimes :) [22:03:43] yes, I also ran into problems, now and then [22:03:47] 03(mod) Add Iranian calendar and Islamic calendar on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52009 +comment (10CalakWiki) [22:05:03] (I am happy to have learnt at least the git - and gerrit - basics here from you, MediaWiki team) [22:06:11] I'm still not sure if I actually know git, or if I just type things until it works [22:06:28] and prey I don't accidentally delete my entire working copy [22:07:30] cp -a thisdir someotherdirjustincase [22:07:33] jsut ayin [22:07:39] er "just sayin" [22:07:56] I actually do do that on occassion [22:08:14] Hi there, I've recently migrated my production wiki to using Git to manage updates. 1.19.6 to 1.19.7 was excellent (git merge 1.19.7) [22:08:14] In git, I tend to git checkout -b BranchJustInCaseBadThingsHappen [22:08:26] quick question, should I update to 1.20.6 forst, before 1.21.1? [22:08:39] You should be able to update directly to 1.21 [22:10:21] Excellent. For merging, would you recommend I merge the tag version (git merge 1.21.1) or the head of the release branch (git merge REL1_21) [22:10:47] I assume the REL* branches are only updated during point releases? [22:11:28] We sometimes add things to the REL branches if there's a bug fix that we want to include next time we make a release [22:12:30] Stealthii_: I'd generally recommend the REL1_XX branch, but it probably doesn't matter either way [22:14:24] Ok. I trust MediaWiki contributors more than I trust myself, so will track that. Thanks bawolff [22:14:52] Stealthii_: If you run into any problems, let us know [22:16:31] 03(mod) git.wikimedia.org (gitblit) is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51769 +comment (10ariel) [22:18:31] Dayum, you really see how powerful it is when people are talking with Google folk :O [22:20:41] I'm sure there was a Wikimedia where that "it" is ... [22:20:49] 03(mod) Should use semantically correct and instead of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52616 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:20:51] 03(mod) Should use semantically correct and instead of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52616 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:24:14] 03(mod) Should use semantically correct and instead of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52616 +comment (10rainerrillke) [22:24:20] bawolff: a point release on the same branch was an easy merge (FYI, my branch was started on tag 1.19.6, same as the original flat-file production site) [22:25:14] however merging a tag from the next release branch (or the release branch itself) seems to have problems. I'm imaging this is due to release branches continuing to be updated separately from each other [22:25:37] 03(mod) Should use semantically correct and instead of - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52616 +comment (10rainerrillke) [22:25:43] Assuming you don't have local changes, why not just checkout the release branch? [22:26:34] The original idea was to simplify upgrades by merging the latest release, and similar for extensions (https://github.com/FarsetLabs/mediawiki/commits/farset-production) [22:28:22] 03(mod) zimwriter should sort the mime types it gets before writing to file. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52324 (10Tommi Mäkitalo) [22:28:54] Seemed like a great idea when I pitched it to the admins an hour ago. Now, I'm not so sure.. [22:32:12] What wikimedia does, is make a git branch off the latest, and then adds any changes they have on top of that in a "live hacks" commit [22:38:34] bawolff: just read up on that. It's definitely the way to go, but as the commits weren't linear it broke the idea I had, but I've found an easy solution [22:39:25] if I manage the extensions separately, I just have to git reset --hard $MW_VERSION and run the update script [22:40:05] as I've no local changes to mediawiki files and .gitignore is setup correctly, my wiki content is kept intact [22:40:48] Quiet day in here. [22:42:37] Elsie: Well most staff people are in Hong Kong now [22:43:15] bawolff: Gay. [22:43:20] tested on 1.20.6 there and now 1.21.1. This is far simpler [22:44:04] Hi anyone knows how to set up a test wiki and other people can review? [22:44:45] jiabao1: You mean a public test wiki [22:45:09] ? [22:45:24] marktraceur: i guess so.. [22:45:41] marktraceur: somewhere i can put my changes and show my mentor [22:46:13] marktraceur: i'm not really sure what it is.. haha [22:46:49] jiabao1: OK, so, you'll need a public IP address. You could get this at home maybe, or you could find a way to get it on a VPS [22:47:40] marktraceur: what is a VPS? [22:47:55] Virtual Private Server [22:48:01] Hi. There are a bunh of uninformed users on a wiki I help with who repeatedly reupload the same image because the MW internal cache is kicking in and they still see the old image, sometimes in the new resolution. Is there a way I can force a cache purge on image uploads? Thanks. [22:48:04] Basically a server you buy from a hosting company [22:48:36] jiabao1: If you're not doing anything crazy, you could put it on a shared hosting site like hostgator and have it publicly visible for cheap, quickly [22:48:39] Damn [22:49:17] sorry dc from internet [22:49:21] pietro10: I think bd808 is working on the underlying bug, or at least has some thoughts [22:49:31] Oh, you're still here :) [22:49:46] ok, thanks [22:50:03] pietro10: If you do ?action=purge on the image description page, it should force cache to go away [22:50:30] right [22:50:40] that's what we've been doing in the meantime [22:50:41] jiabao1: You could also put it on labs, but you may need to do some convincing to get a public IP there [22:51:14] pietro10: I am working on an open bug for that purge problem. No promises yet on a fix date but it's high priority to get a handle on it [22:51:19] marktraceur: who should i ask? i want to demo some recent changes to my maths for VE [22:51:42] all right, thanks again [22:51:49] pietro10: yeah, hopefully the issue will be fixed in some future time. [22:52:08] pietro10: If you can't force a purge, there's various more complex work arounds listed at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Purge [22:52:17] jiabao: Ryan_Lane is the guy to ask about labs, you'll need a project, then to create an instance, then to get a public IP (or wait for yuvipanda to finish his current work) [22:53:04] marktraceur: well that's really helpful thx a lot [22:57:05] 03(NEW) MathJax mode does not respect content direction (aka "rtl") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52619 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; () [22:58:38] mm.. i have another question is, if someone left me a msg on the user talk page, where shall i reply him? [22:59:51] underneath the message [23:00:15] ok thx =D [23:00:16] using : to indent [23:00:23] a - ~~~~ [23:00:25] :b - ~~~~ [23:00:29] ::a - ~~~~ [23:00:31] etc. [23:00:53] (that's another phoenomenon I'm confused about - people replying on the poster's talk page instead of their own...) [23:01:43] pietro10: that's cool. hehe ya.. i was thinking to do that.. xP [23:02:45] hi [23:02:55] Hello! [23:03:21] How can one find the number of pages transcluding a template? [23:03:40] It's on a Wikimedia wiki, if it matters [23:04:12] You could go to the template, click on "What links here" in the sidebar, and count... [23:04:42] There's also an API action, though I don't know if you can get the number from that, or just a list. [23:05:46] I wish the API would provide the number of various things, not just incomplete lists :S [23:06:33] PiRSquared: The concern is, what if a list has 100 000 entries on it. Getting the count could be expensive [23:07:14] PiRSquared: If you have access to labs, you can get the count via sql [23:07:17] bawolff: is it any more expensive than going through the list, 500 (or whatever) at a time, counting each? [23:07:30] 03(mod) Provide reviewer counts per Gerrit changeset in batch form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52329 +comment (10b) [23:07:35] That's a valid point. [23:07:46] Well, if you do that, you do that in steps, and its spread out over time [23:07:53] ah [23:08:00] also, you're probably only going to do that if you really need to the number [23:28:37] 03(mod) infobox is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51043 +comment (10WhatamIdoing) [23:31:31] Would it just be easier to add a tracking category? [23:31:39] than to count manually? [23:31:57] It has a ton of uses, so it might slow it down ... hm [23:33:21] 03(mod) https://lists.wikimedia.org not reachable over IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22028 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:33:24] 03(mod) https://lists.wikimedia.org not reachable over IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22028 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:33:57] 03(mod) https://lists.wikimedia.org not reachable over IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22028 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:34:59] PiRSquared: What template is this? [23:35:18] actually, some languages do use a tracking cat [23:35:34] bawolff: I was looking at translations of https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:Pagebanner [23:36:02] trying to figure out what percentage of pages use banners per each Wikivoyage edition [23:36:16] 03(mod) https://lists.wikimedia.org not reachable over IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22028 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [23:36:46] 03(NEW) Difficult to get a blank line when the page starts with a bulleted list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52620 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [23:38:39] for enwikivoyage: 25828 uses of the template [23:39:54] 99 uses on greek (el) [23:41:10] 0 in spanish (es) [23:41:43] 767 in french [23:43:10] PiRSquared: 994 in italian, 3 in nl, 106 in russian, 352 in ukrainian [23:59:44] thanks