[00:25:07] 03(mod) Certification templates not parsed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52296 (10kwwilliams) [00:25:52] 03(mod) Update tours for new edit tab selectors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52476 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:27:38] 03(NEW) VE post-edit notification text needs revising - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52871 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [00:32:52] 03(mod) Roundtripping issue leads to infobox deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52488 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:34:00] 03(mod) Implement way to round-trip tables with fosterable content that migrates out of the table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51217 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [00:34:50] 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840 +comment (10gwicke) [00:49:26] 03(mod) Clean up skin user preferences in user_properties table on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52778 +comment (10b) [01:00:44] 03(mod) Certification templates not parsed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52296 (10ssastry) [01:01:22] 03(mod) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13228 +comment (10MZMcBride) [01:02:17] 03(mod) Selser regression: pages with templates that generate tables and foster content out of the table are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52638 (10ssastry) [01:10:46] 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694 +comment (10swalling) [01:20:11] harej: http://horseeposters.com/ [01:20:59] Pilif12p: Great site, but I'm disappointed the posters aren't available in print resolution. [01:27:39] 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840 +comment (10C. Scott Ananian) [01:40:56] http://wikibound.info/api.php [01:41:00] what on earth is going on here? [01:44:29] 03(mod) Keyboard shortcut for show changes (shift+alt+v) no longer works since VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52701 +comment (10Jean-Marie Lessard) [01:44:41] 03(NEW) eventlogging role requires python server module, port forwarding, and special flags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52872 normal; Tools: MediaWiki-Vagrant; () [01:47:26] Ringtailed-Fox: Either the file isn't there or there may be some permission errors. [01:47:48] mmkay [01:51:00] the file's there [01:52:23] as for permissions, it's 644 [01:52:54] that line in question is " require( $filename );" [01:53:28] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 (10MZMcBride) [01:54:27] <{{Guy|sleeps}}> 777! [01:56:43] it needs ot be 777?> [01:56:47] *to be 777? [01:57:11] <{{Guy|sleeps}}> Wouldn't hurt! [01:57:53] You can safely ignore {{Guy|sleeps}}. [01:59:49] <{{Guy|sleeps}}> Most certainly ignore the sleep typer... [02:02:29] hmm [02:02:32] well, it changed nothing [02:04:26] <{{Guy|sleeps}}> If setting permissions on the file to 777 didn't help, file permissions weren't your problem. [02:04:37] Hurr. [02:05:18] Ringtailed-Fox: You're not supposed to write into the root directory. [02:05:53] Ringtailed-Fox: But your issue seems extension-related? [02:05:54] i'm.... not? [02:06:03] i think it may, but the extension works on the other wikis i manage [02:06:20] Can you disable the OggHandler extension and see if it fixes api.php? [02:06:30] Ringtailed-Fox: Your URLs write into the root path. example.com/index.php [02:06:38] And example.com/load.php [02:06:41] You're not really supposed to do that. [02:07:08] oh. how do i fix that? [02:07:18] Try disabling the OggHandler extension first. [02:07:31] !rootpage [02:07:38] !root [02:07:39] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !nullpath, !rewriteproblems, [02:07:44] !nullpath | Ringtailed-Fox [02:07:44] Ringtailed-Fox: Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [02:08:00] It's not a big deal and probably isn't related to your current troubles. [02:08:10] But if you manage a lot of wikis, it's good to know. [02:08:23] still nothing [02:08:24] Hmm. [02:08:46] Does /home/wikiboun/public_html/includes/api/ApiQueryAllPages.php exist? [02:08:55] yes [02:09:29] /home/wikiboun/public_html/includes/AutoLoader.php [02:09:34] That file exists as well? [02:09:55] yes [02:11:46] http://wikibound.info/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&apnamespace=0&format=jsonfm&aplimit=20 [02:11:52] Interesting. [02:12:49] hm, i had to make some symlinks that were case-sensitive [02:13:06] What kind of symlinks? [02:13:11] It's working now. [02:14:26] as in ApiQueryAllMessages.php -> ApiQueryAllmessages.php [02:15:25] Odd... [02:15:31] Did you rename those files? [02:16:13] no, just made symlinks with capital letters pointing to the originals [02:17:14] https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fcore.git/14b3f8767bdcfe7f5d346f4b4b3e55cc2d32044a/includes%2Fapi [02:17:25] > ApiQueryAllMessages.php [02:17:31] > ApiQueryAllPages.php [02:17:32] Etc. [02:23:53] Hey All... it's been a little bit since I've edited a wiki. On a non-wikipedia wiki... I'm trying to have javascript affect a certain page only. How would I configure the .js code to target a specific page again? [02:24:08] google is currently not my friend [02:24:30] Which version of MediaWiki? [02:24:38] ahh... sec [02:24:53] 1.20.2 [02:24:55] if ( mw.config.get( 'wgPageName' ) === 'Main_Page' [02:25:00] You can use an if statement like that. [02:25:12] You can see the value of wgPageName in the page source. [02:25:29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [02:25:44] so I'd wrap that if statement around my whole code/ [02:26:17] Yeah. [02:26:33] so... if (me.config.get ( 'wgPageName' ) === 'User:Maygus/Testing' { code { [02:26:37] *} [02:26:43] Something like that. [02:26:48] hmm, on another wiki, if i try to edit the article path to /wiki/$1, it completely screws up [02:26:50] k. thanks. I'll give it a whirl. [02:27:13] If you want to keep your code lighter, you can do if ... import(something other page.js) [02:27:27] Check out the Common.js link. [02:27:30] I think it has examples of both. [02:28:23] Ringtailed-Fox: You have to configure your Web server to understand that /wiki/foo is a virtual path that should be silently rewritten to /w/index.php?title=foo [02:29:10] mmkay [02:46:27] 03(mod) API query siteinfo namespacealiases should be sorted numerically, not by source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45382 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:58:19] thanks Elsie - looks like another fault is ... it's not importing my .js :( [02:58:37] Tried on common.js and vector.js... [03:04:30] Maygus: Link? [03:05:57] hang on. I checked console. I got my brackets in wrong place [03:06:12] screen I'm on shows } and ) to look the same [03:09:55] 03(mod) API query siteinfo namespacealiases should be sorted numerically, not by source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45382 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:09:56] 03(mod) API query siteinfo namespacealiases should be sorted numerically, not by source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45382 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [03:18:24] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10SJ) [03:19:52] @Elsie - http://firefall-wiki.com/w/MediaWiki:Vector.js I'm getting a "Uncaught ReferenceError" in the console... [03:20:18] .js isn't my strong point and only doing this as personal .js aren't allowed so trying to at least inject this into my testing page for now. [03:21:12] Maygus: You have me.config. [03:21:15] You want mw.config. [03:21:19] mw. for MediaWiki. [03:21:21] True story. [03:21:28] I copied above... :D [03:21:37] derp. [03:21:37] oh wait I see [03:21:51] :-) [03:22:55] stupid system isn't purging. [03:24:04] there we go... now to fix up my other .JS :D [03:24:49] :-) [03:30:01] 03(mod) "Old" is broken: Error: mw.Title: Could not parse title ".digamma" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52683 +comment (10Oliver Keyes) [03:35:22] 03(mod) Add new message for user without 'editinterface' right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18204 +easy; summary; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [03:37:07] 03(mod) Improve user feedback in html detected upload error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25163 +comment (10sumanah) [03:40:42] * mooey waves at sumanah  [03:41:15] hi mooey how are you? [03:41:23] not too shabby [03:41:26] :) [03:41:27] had my family here last week [03:41:32] was awesome, but exhausting [03:42:48] I BET [03:43:16] my latest accomplishment: https://git.wikimedia.org/log/pywikibot%2Fcore.git I fixed 1 typo and updated 2 copyright dates. [03:43:33] basically just to familiarize myself a bit with pywikipedia - and then along the way I noticed this stuff [03:44:39] wooo [03:45:13] yeah things seem to work that way, it's pretty cool.. and that's the point of "making a first contribution" in the OTW requirements too [03:45:45] actually earlier today I also had an interesting codexperience [03:46:45] 03(NEW) Add [edit|rename] links to dynamically generated sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52873 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [03:47:16] 03(mod) Add [edit|rename] links to dynamically generated sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52873 (10Molly White) [03:47:17] 03(mod) Allow users to add new sections using the JSON editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52765 (10Molly White) [03:47:49] sumanah: my daily codexperience: I pointed out something on a bug, and james asked if I want to have a go at it -- I had this entire answer formulated about how I looked at the code and I think it's a bit over my level of knowledge but here's an idea on the general direction that we should take-- and suddenly i realized I pretty much fixed it. So now it's in gerrit. [03:47:51] \o/ [03:48:20] AWESOME [03:48:31] mooey: that is footprints-on-the-beach level inspiration. [03:49:44] hah yeah, it was funny, though. I didn't even notice I was solving the issue, I concentrated on trying to explain what got me stuck. [03:53:01] mooey: :) talking it through really does activate new parts of the brain [03:54:52] yeah and it makes you re-evaluate what you tried to do as you explain it to others [03:55:32] absolutely [03:55:37] this is part of the point of meetings IMO [03:55:55] yeah, true [03:56:04] though I find it more challenging when I ask in the channel [03:56:09] channel(s) .. whichever [03:57:11] I have to really explain things concisely without rambling so it fits in a couple of written sentences, and you have to make sure you're clear in writing, so I usually go over my own question and WHILE I do that I sometimes figure things out [04:05:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Create a design guideline to minimize clicks and key presses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52520 (10rupert.thurner) [04:05:58] nod [04:06:12] mooey: right -- the point is not necessarily the meeting, but meetings are a forcing function [04:12:51] yeah absolutely [04:24:05] 03(mod) Non-canonical HTTPS URLs quietly redirect to HTTP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31369 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [04:26:29] thanks greg-g [04:26:41] sumanah: :-) [04:46:53] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [05:09:29] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn) [05:10:22] 03(mod) Enhanced navigation: Support for dynamic, category-based "Prev"/"Next" links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52650 +comment (10visitor) [05:13:10] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10ariel) [05:26:49] 03(mod) MediaWiki images not being indexed properly by external search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52647 +comment (10visitor) [05:56:21] 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840 +comment (10gwicke) [05:57:42] 03(mod) "Couldn't resolve host 'ms-fe.pmtpa.wmnet'" CloudFiles errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40514 +comment (10aschulz4587) [06:07:29] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 (10Sean Pringle) [06:18:32] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:18:35] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [06:22:33] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:23:59] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10p858snake) [06:27:40] morning [06:28:26] i have a problem with positioning a java menu http://tako.flexnet.pro/wiki.png [06:28:40] not sure about which $wgHook to use [06:29:02] it's now using 'BeforePageDisplay' [06:31:23] 03(mod) Wrong font size for
sidebar title on Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51928 +comment (10andyrom75) [06:40:55] 03(NEW) #related magic word doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52874 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; () [06:42:10] 03(mod) #related magic word doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52874 normal->major; +comment (10Andyrom75) [07:08:20] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10Sean Pringle) [08:00:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: CE eats up syllables except a last syllable of a word in Korean IME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50631 +comment (10ryuch) [08:08:23] First time installing MediaWiki, went through the steps, put the LocalSettings.php file in, went to the wiki, it spits out "Fatal exception of type MWException". http://pastebin.com/cM65Ei8F is my LocalSettings.php. Any ideas? [08:11:48] 03(mod) Inserting an existing reference puts it at the start of the paragraph instead of where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [08:17:37] 03(mod) dumpHtml does not receive thumbnail images using [[Image:image.png|thumb|alt=description|description]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47994 (10marvin_stgt) [08:40:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Remove obsolete retry token logic in mw.Target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51253 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:01:16] 03(mod) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13228 +comment (10aklapper) [09:18:03] 03(NEW) Pls. add Extension OnlyRecentRecentChanges to the extension bugzilla picker (option) list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52875 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [09:18:29] pls [09:19:28] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +shell (10Calak) [09:23:48] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10aklapper) [09:26:54] 03(mod) Bold italics not rendering properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52254 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [09:27:28] 03(mod) Bold italics not rendering properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52254 +comment (10cmckenna) [09:39:21] 03(NEW) Parsoid generates nowikis when changing bold or italic to bold italic when adjacent to bold or italic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52876 normal; Parsoid: General; () [09:40:42] 03(mod) Add LIMIT/ORDER BY options to Database delete wrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52868 (10Andre Klapper) [09:41:04] 03(mod) Parsoid generates nowikis when changing bold or italic to bold italic when adjacent to bold or italic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52876 (10Chris McKenna) [09:41:05] 03(mod) Bold italics not rendering properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52254 (10Chris McKenna) [09:42:02] 03(mod) Install Education Program extension on pt.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52870 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Andre Klapper) [09:52:03] Vulpix: remember my issue from yesterday with a suddenly corrupt DB? [09:53:52] 03(mod) MediaWiki images not being indexed properly by external search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52647 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [09:54:05] azi`: yes [09:54:36] Vulpix: restarting the DB fixed it :O [09:54:40] Vulpix: thanks for the help yday [09:54:45] :O [09:54:57] yes I am kind of suspicious.. but i sent the logs to the admins [09:55:05] well, I'm glad to know the fix was so easy [09:55:05] and they said they restarted the DB and it now works.. [09:55:13] 03(mod) QUnit tests: Missing expert destruction leads to failing tests when resourceloaderdebug is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48611 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:55:28] take a backup soon ;) [09:55:30] yes , though it kind of bothers me , sounds too easy [09:55:36] yeah [09:55:54] *dump.php + copying over the respective folder should be enough right? [09:57:20] mysqldump, dump.php only extracts XML of pages, not user account information [10:00:36] 03(mod) tr.wikiMedia.org redirects to tr.m.wikiPedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52837 +comment (10aklapper) [10:03:23] 03(mod) Error shown in editing pages on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52865 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:03:37] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [10:03:49] 03(mod) Add LIMIT/ORDER BY options to Database update wrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52869 (10Andre Klapper) [10:05:04] 03(mod) "View source" tab displayed on protected properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48679 (10Addshore) [10:05:08] 03(mod) Hide the "View source" tab on protected Wikidata items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39999 (10Addshore) [10:06:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Create a design guideline to minimize clicks and key presses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52520 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:07:45] 03(mod) Hide the "View source" tab on protected Wikidata items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39999 +comment (10Addshore) [10:07:48] 03(mod) "View source" tab displayed on protected properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48679 (10Addshore) [10:09:02] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10This, that and the other) [10:09:55] 03(mod) entityselector misbehaves if entered string matches the first suggested Item's alias instead of its label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44884 (10Henning (WMDE)) [10:12:15] Ok [10:12:38] In templates How are you supposed to RELIABLY enusre that paragrpah breaks are parsed correctly? [10:12:51] I've got some templates on Wikiosurce where they are not [10:13:08] I fail to see how mediawiki cannot do something as simple as paragrpah formating inside templates [10:13:38] The template concerned is cl-act-section/1 which i spent the best part of a wekk trying to get to work, and I thought I'd fixed this [10:14:48] So my question is.. Why is not possible to pass multiple paragrpahs to a template in a consistent fashion, that doesn't invol;ve all manner of inconsistent hacks? [10:16:54] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10CalakWiki) [10:17:15] 03(mod) Missing description for alias-update user right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52785 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:17:20] 03(mod) Missing description for alias-update user right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52785 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:19:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Do not add size for standard thumbnail images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50379 +comment (10vssun) [10:24:38] 03(mod) Missing description for alias-update user right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52785 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:26:13] 03(mod) api wbeditentiy sitelink already used doesn't tell you a siteid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52193 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:26:15] 03(mod) api wbeditentiy sitelink already used doesn't tell you a siteid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52193 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:27:10] 03(NEW) [NamespaceRelations] Target namespace pages should be moved when the source page is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52877 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; () [10:27:29] 03(mod) [NamespaceRelations] Target namespace pages should be moved when the source page is moved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52877 (10Pavel Selitskas [wizardist]) [10:27:30] 03(mod) Adding custom inter-namespace tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13228 (10Pavel Selitskas [wizardist]) [10:30:24] Anyone awake? [10:51:08] "Awake" is a subjective term [10:52:53] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Ruffhead_-_The_Statutes_at_Large_-_vol_9.djvu/63 - Paragrpahs won't behave [10:53:03] I've tried 3 different approaches [10:53:51] And unless someone tells me exactly WHY mediawiki can't handle multiple paragrpahs passed to a template, I'll have to conclude it's not possible... [10:59:27] 03(mod) special page to list all items without description in a given language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42102 (10Addshore) [11:00:22] which is fairly serious omission [11:00:43] given that the same markup when not supplied as a template param has no issue [11:01:35] 03(mod) "Related sites" on it.wikivoyage still uses
instead of

(though bug 51625 got fixed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51928 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:01:55] I'm also slsightly dissapointed,given that I've mentioned this exactl same issue on at least 2 previous ocassions, and nothing happened [11:02:23] Qcoder00: have you filed a bug? [11:02:44] Yes, but can't recall the bugzill number [11:03:06] and I don't want to file a duplicate [11:03:37] !bug reporter:qcoder [11:03:37] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=reporter%3aqcoder [11:03:50] you didn't or you use a weird nick / email. [11:04:44] Qcoder00: ^ [11:04:45] No [11:04:53] Try ShakespeareFan00 [11:05:02] as well as that's my login on Wiki [11:05:03] !bug reporter:shakespeare [11:05:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=reporter%3ashakespeare [11:05:55] there isn't even anybody on bugzilla with "shakespeare" in their nameor email, it seems [11:06:40] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10at.light) [11:06:46] OK [11:06:55] Seems a bug was never actually filed on this [11:07:36] also, lemme try something [11:07:58] https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page%3ARuffhead_-_The_Statutes_at_Large_-_vol_9.djvu%2F63&diff=4550573&oldid=4550550 [11:08:03] looks good now? [11:08:28] {{cl-act-title}} generates a
[11:08:36] and you can't nest a
inside a

[11:09:02] so the

is closed before the

begins and then is apparnetly somehow removed since it has no contents [11:09:24] why are you using HTML markupinstead of two newlines? [11:09:45] !ask [11:09:45] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [11:09:50] Because if I put TWO newlines, TWO newlines get inserted between the paragrpahs which is not what is desired [11:10:06] what's the character between "time" and "both"? [11:10:20] What I would like is for mediwiki to actuall parse the text param in the sam way it parses markup [11:10:25] NOT supplied to a template [11:10:40] liangent: looks like theunicode replacement character to me [11:10:42] someone borked it [11:10:51] it was probably a ndash [11:10:53] � [11:10:55] I was using HTML markup because I was trying to figure out why the formatting won't if I did it using standard markup [11:11:46] 03(NEW) SpecialEntitiesWithoutPage and subpages need more tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52878 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [11:11:59] !ask [11:11:59] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [11:12:02] !ask del [11:12:02] Successfully removed ask [11:12:07] !ask is Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [11:12:08] Key was added [11:12:24] !ask [11:12:24] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [11:12:28] woot. [11:12:34] petan: wm-bot sucks [11:12:42] MatmaRex: Well someone changed something, and it now works... [11:12:47] but it's a hack [11:12:56] Qcoder00: yes, i changed that, and even linked thediff here� [11:13:01] (forgot to login) [11:13:05] and there is still an underlyign glitch [11:13:14] there's no glitch, i explainedthis above [11:13:19] because I shouldn't need to force

in this way? [11:13:22] liangent: or is it me sending broken unicode? [11:13:30] Qcoder00: it doesn't seem like you need to [11:13:35] 03(mod) special page to list all items without description in a given language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42102 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:14:03] In your edit, your force a

[11:14:22] MatmaRex: your message was shown as an ascii question mark... [11:14:26] in my irc client [11:14:48] before the title... [11:15:02] I am saying that ideally this shouldn't be needed... [11:15:06] Qcoder00: actually yeah, it seems you do need to. weird, lemme look [11:15:23] liangent: argh [11:15:47] Ideally mediwiki should be recognising that you have an embedded div, and do the

insertion itself... [11:16:16] liangent: and now? � [11:16:29] !3x � [11:16:29] � � � [11:16:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media insertion dialog should display a message if no media is found for the given search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52463 (10Chris McKenna) [11:16:35] 03(mod) Search does not find some pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37578 (10Chris McKenna) [11:16:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: can't add image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52782 (10Chris McKenna) [11:17:04] meh, still seems broken, but i really don't feel like looking into this now. [11:17:18] Qcoder00: it recognizes you have an embedded div and suppressed p insertion. [11:18:12] !3x [11:18:12] $1 $1 $1 [11:18:22] !2x [11:18:22] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !wiki2xml, [11:18:29] !4x [11:18:37] why is it 3x only? [11:19:02] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10CalakWiki) [11:19:04] Matma Rex: OK [11:19:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AccessControl <-- there's no files (except hidden .git files) [11:19:22] So in Mediawiki markup you can't have self contained DIV's inside a paragroah? [11:19:37] MatmaRex! wm-bot is awesome! [11:19:50] which is essentialy how sidetitles are done across a large propotion of Wikisource [11:20:17] liangent: no idea, i just remembered it existed :P [11:20:30] 03(mod) Feature request for VisualEditor language setting +ULS +Wikidata interwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51355 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:20:37] Qcoder00: no. in HTML, you can't have a

inside a

[11:20:51] it's been this way since the nineties [11:20:55] OK [11:21:05] So how do I rework the template ? [11:21:20] 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431 +comment (10aklapper) [11:21:22] but the behavior here is a little wonky [11:21:44] What I want to do is to have side titles... [11:21:49] 03(mod) iwdata option lost on Special:UnconnectedPages when clicking previous/next - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48541 +comment (10Addshore) [11:21:50] Qcoder00: file a bug, and cc cscott on it. ;) [11:22:43] I'm going to try something... [11:22:58] Qcoder00: also, it seems like there are some unbalanced tags on that page [11:23:05] i'm trying to figure out where they are coming from [11:23:11] but that might be throwing off the parser [11:23:17] OK [11:24:51] I will note that when I put the paragrpah break in as standard markup (i.e without any HTML at all) I didn't get any paragrpah breaks, despite the fact that the same markup I was supplying to the text=param worked outside a template [11:24:58] 03(mod) Special page to identify most likely properties for an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41054 +comment (10Addshore) [11:25:17] DIV's inside a P are how {{cl-act-title}} works... and according to you it shouldn't actually work at all ;) [11:25:32] meaning the template probably needs re-eginerring [11:26:08] Qcoder00: yeah, i tried using stardard paragraph break and it didn't do anything [11:26:20] Qcoder00: some of the templates on that page produce unbalanced HTML tags [11:26:24] and this is breaking stuff [11:26:34] They shouldn't be producing unblanced tags [11:26:51] because I checked the code in respect of the DIV's myself manually [11:27:12] When using a single paragrpah everything is fine [11:27:33] 03(mod) wikibase-item-summary-wblinktitles-connect message doesn't have third parameter ($3) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47213 (10Addshore) [11:27:34] the tags are not visible on the final page because everything is run through HTML Tidy [11:27:36] but attempt to put multiple paragrpahs and things break [11:27:38] the unbalanced tags* [11:27:51] but it breaks horribly on Special:ExpandTemplates for me [11:28:15] And as you are saying {{cl-act-title}} should'nt technicaly work at all [11:28:53] So how do you side titles to avoid needing to a DIV inside P which is not strict HTML? [11:29:16] It's not table data so using Tables for layout is bad as well [11:29:20] 03(mod) #related magic word in conflict with "In other languages" spot; ULS cog shown in wrong place for pages without interwiki link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52874 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:29:38] Am I going to have to conclude HTML can't handle side-titles? [11:30:42] Hello, Can I fix a bug assigned to somebody else? [11:30:50] Qcoder00: {{Cl-act-section/preamble|layout=right|split=start| [11:30:52] Currently - making cl-act-section - single paragraph (and adding a usage note ) is a work around... but that doesn't solve the side title issue... [11:30:55] roopak: yes [11:30:59] Qcoder00: this is producing unbalanced

tags [11:31:04] it shouldn't [11:31:18] because there is a split=end in the footer... [11:31:42] 03(mod) Selecting many/multiple (>7?) files at once: Some are missing in the batch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39902 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:31:59] the split=end in the footer should be generating the closing tags [11:32:14] If it's not then the whole template is broken and needs to be nuked [11:32:25] hm. [11:32:25] breaking at least 2 years of effort [11:32:30] hmm, okay [11:32:38] i hate that header/footer stuff you guys have [11:33:08] It's done that way because stuff flows over page boundaries... [11:33:25] yeah, i understand why it's done this way [11:33:33] but i don't hate it any less becauseof that ;) [11:33:47] If you have a split=start, you need to also have a split=end... [11:34:04] (and yes I've sometimes forget the split=end as well) [11:34:34] cl-act-section and cl-act-tile probably need to be re-engineered [11:34:35] 03(mod) Use language code 'zh' in multilingual "Wikimedia Error" page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24161 +comment (10Liangent) [11:34:41] (possibly as LUA code...) [11:34:48] heh, actually, it seems like i fixed it now [11:34:54] Oh> [11:34:57] by killing more

tags and replacing themwith newlines [11:34:57] What did you do? [11:34:57] lol [11:35:47] consistently used newlines [11:35:50] seems to work [11:35:51] The thing is your latest revision is very close to what i had originally which wasn't behaving... [11:37:03] The side title "The Oath" is associated with the paragrpah... [11:37:15] But putting the sidetitle on anything but it's own lin breaks stuff... [11:37:23] This can't be right... [11:37:52] meh [11:38:11] roopak: just out of curiosity, what bug are you working on? [11:38:13] So I will ask again... How are you supposed to do side titles? [11:38:49] Qcoder00: i really can't answer that. the way i did it after some trial and error apparently worked [11:38:54] so that seems like a good bet [11:39:19] Yes, it works, but the side title ends up (cosmetically) in the wrong place... [11:39:32] It should be directly by the side of the paragrpah it relates to [11:40:13] I'm sorely tempted to propose the templates concerned for deletion [11:40:15] ah, hm [11:40:24] it's a line higher than it should be, right? [11:40:24] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:40:25] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [11:40:33] MatmaRex: Line lower ... [11:40:51] "The Oath" side title is associated with the paragrpah starting with the drop initial... [11:41:03] " I ... a.b dow swaer.... " etc... [11:41:20] I can tweak it y making the Oath section it's own cl-section... [11:41:37] but it's a pain having to put cl-act-section for every paragrpah [11:41:48] wait, let's share screenshots [11:42:09] I'm proposing it for deletion, Too complex [11:42:18] Qcoder00: http://i.imgur.com/QqFf7sw.png looks like this to me [11:42:21] looks thesame for you? [11:42:25] Yep [11:42:46] The Side title 'The Oath' should be next to the paragrpah with the Drop inital I which at the moment it isn't [11:42:59] When I attempt to put it in the right place, stuff breaks... [11:43:27] because of how mediawiki parses the HTML [11:43:37] (and attempts to 'tidy' it ) [11:43:49] gah, wait, wtf is going on on that page, actually [11:44:07] there's some weird nested divs [11:44:22] That's how I was TOLD to do the side titles... [11:44:44] and spent best part of a fortnight trying to get it working [11:45:28] If you are saying that side titles in HTML aren't possible , than i may as well ask for deletion of about 2 years worth of effort [11:45:55] because it's 'not possible to accurately represent the source text because HTML can't handle something simple like side titles ':( [11:46:00] which is POINTY [11:46:45] It would be nice to have a way of doing sidetitle and sidenotes which didn't need kludges [11:46:59] (and the DIV based appaorch was the one I was TOLD to use...) [11:47:22] If you have a better one , please implement it... [11:48:01] because I am now rather angry [11:48:15] that mediwiki can't cope with something straightforward like this [11:48:17] side notes are trivial to do, but for some reasons you guys are doing them in an incredibly convoluted way [11:48:37] i'm trying to unravel that spaghetti, give me a minute [11:48:39] This was the way I was TOLD to do them [11:49:12] (And using the other sidenote approach meant they didn't format correctly) [11:49:33] which would be {{sidenotes begin}}{{sidenotes end}} [11:49:34] 03(mod) Parsoid or VisualEditor: template {{-}} moved into following heading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52658 +comment (10Maggie Dennis) [11:50:07] I don't like having to throw out 2-3 years worth of effort because mediwiki screws up [11:50:39] 03(NEW) Campaigns: Boolean type parameters and target field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52879 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [11:51:01] every time you talk, i check this chanlle to see if you said something useful, taking a break from figuring out your stuff [11:51:14] Matmarex: Sorry [12:05:07] 03(mod) api wbeditentiy sitelink already used doesn't tell you a siteid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52193 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:05:11] 03(mod) Special page to identify most likely properties for an item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41054 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [12:05:13] 03(mod) Entity suggester for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46555 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [12:09:22] Qcoder00: there. i fixed it for real now [12:10:04] Qcoder00: rule of thumb: for block-level tags like

you usually want newlines after the opening tag and before the closing
tag [12:10:29] Qcoder00: this ensures that the contents of the div are wrapped in

s like they would be normally [12:10:41] I'm still going to propose the templates for review though [12:10:50] They shouldn't as you say technically work [12:11:01] see my last four edits: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matma_Rex [12:11:05] i just added some newlines [12:11:47] OK.. [12:12:15] Longer term... I think cl-act-section needs to be converted to a LUA module [12:12:34] (as your comments indicate, it's becoming rather complex_ [12:12:36] ) [12:13:54] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Broadcasting_Act_19810068_en.pdf/81 - Now puts two much space around paragrpahs though... [12:14:02] which is an issue with padding ;) [12:14:18] 03(mod) Missing description for alias-update user right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52785 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:15:23] http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/House_of_Commons_%28Disqualifications%29_Act_1801 there is a split here... [12:15:34] the pargaprh flow should be continuious [12:16:09] ie the pargrpah at the end of page 3 should flow continuously into the paragrpah at the start of page4 [12:16:57] Prior to your changes to fix the newlines issues, the flow was continuious [12:17:07] So it's not quite right yet... [12:17:49] As I said, I'm still sorely tempted to request junking of the entire template, on the grounds it seems to be impossible to get it to work consistently... [12:18:54] If we fix the newline issue, the flow continuation doesn't work [12:19:06] If the flow continuation issue is fixed, the newlines break [12:21:27] It shouldn't be impossible to have a template which can cope with both [12:23:40] What is yhe permission that administrators habe that allows them to move pages over pages that have a history? [12:25:11] Is there a permission that will allow for a user to change page creation protection? [12:25:28] Without changing others. [12:27:38] page creation can be banned via titleblacklist [12:27:59] I'm working on an RfC for http://enwp.org/WP:AfC and the two big problems that reviewers run into approving pages is salted pages and pages that existed but were moved and a redirect created. Trying to figure out what the minimum changes would be to allow them to do those things. [12:28:20] So tboverride? [12:28:40] Danny_B: ^ for salted pages? [12:30:23] 03(mod) Pls. add Extension OnlyRecentRecentChanges to the extension bugzilla picker (option) list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52875 +comment (10aklapper) [12:30:24] tboverride allows create pages which are otherwise blacklisted [12:31:08] to move the page to the other page which has history, you need delete rights, so the target can be deleted first [12:31:55] 03(mod) MediaWiki images not being indexed properly by external search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52647 major->normal (10Andre Klapper) [12:31:58] however, if there is _only_ redirect on the target page, whoever can move it there [12:32:14] 03(NEW) Add parameter type for url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52880 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: TemplateData; () [12:33:41] 03(mod) Upload varnish cp1063 not responding to purges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52864 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:39:47] hi everyone [12:39:54] anyone familiar with the AWS extension ? [12:49:06] Hi lfschenone. [12:49:11] Just ask your question. [12:50:23] MatmaRex: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Template:Cl-act-section - [12:50:38] We seem to have 'bugs' which complement each other... [12:50:40] :( [12:50:47] As I explained above [12:57:38] I can not get UploadWizard to start on my test wiki. Whenever I try to access Special:UploadWizard I get a loading screen which runs forever [12:58:17] 03(NEW) Provide better PDF viewer based on pdf.js project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52881 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [12:59:30] Rahul21: That's annoying. Check your browser's JavaScript error console? [13:00:33] Elsie: http://imgur.com/6kCog2V [13:00:57] Hmmm. I was hoping for a cat GIF. [13:01:15] Rahul21: Check your browser's JavaScript error console. [13:01:37] Elsie: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.api.titleblacklist [13:01:44] :-) [13:01:49] There you go. [13:01:59] Try installing the TitleBlacklist extension, I guess? [13:02:34] Elsie: It is not mentioned in the "INSTALL" file of UploadWizard [13:02:52] Elsie: sure, Ill install it and try [13:05:03] 03(mod) README is unfocused & unwelcoming - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50552 +comment (10Quim Gil) [13:12:44] 03(mod) Text contained in the head element is displayed in Japanese old mobile phone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35969 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:13:51] 03(mod) README is unfocused & unwelcoming - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50552 +comment (10b) [13:17:58] 03(mod) Provide better PDF viewer based on pdf.js project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52881 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [13:19:26] 03(mod) Add Extension OnlyRecentRecentChanges to Bugzilla's component list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52875 summary (10Andre Klapper) [13:21:45] 03(mod) "This page is a translated version of..." should be at the bottom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51533 +comment (10Quim Gil) [13:23:49] @Platonides [13:23:59] 03(mod) "This page is a translated version of..." under the page title is too obtrusive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51533 summary; +comment (10Quim Gil) [13:24:18] @notify Platonides [13:24:19] I'll let you know when I see Platonides around here [13:29:15] 03(NEW) Add possibility to override displayed pages interval in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52882 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; () [13:31:05] How do you URLENCODE a string with a pipe in it? [13:33:35] i have a problem with a new install [13:33:55] {{URLENCODE:{{!}}|QUERY}} seems to work... [13:40:09] !ask | mrnoname [13:40:09] mrnoname: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [13:43:45] Uploading files is givin a error, thumbnail van not be made en pics are not showing [13:50:03] hi Elsie, you there ? [13:50:19] im having this problem: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:AWS [13:58:09] mrnoname: What is the error text? [13:58:23] Could not create directory "mwstore://AmazonS3/local-public/c/c7". [13:59:05] 03(mod) global filter: Missing parameters on local filteroverview (MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51780 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:59:06] 03(mod) global filter: Missing parameters on local filteroverview (MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51780 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:59:42] !uploading | mrnoname [13:59:42] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !install, [13:59:49] !upload | mrnoname [13:59:50] mrnoname: File uploads are disabled by default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [14:08:20] 03(mod) Add Extension OnlyRecentRecentChanges to Bugzilla's component list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52875 +comment (10mail) [14:08:41] 03(mod) Add Extension OnlyRecentRecentChanges to Bugzilla's component list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52875 (10T. Gries) [14:09:05] 03(mod) global filter: Missing parameters on local filteroverview (MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51780 (10Grunny) [14:10:07] hi again, im having trouble getting the AWS extension working [14:10:36] ive set up the config as best i could, but i try to upload a file, i get the following error: [14:10:38] Could not create directory "mwstore://AmazonS3/local-public/c/c7". [14:11:08] more details of the problem are here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:AWS [14:24:49] MatmaRex, Qcoder00: did you file the bug? [14:27:03] I want to add the ''ext.uploadWizard'' module as a dependency in my PronunciationRecording extension, can I just add it under dependencies? [14:27:19] uploadWizard, uploadWizard [14:27:26] * cscott is just checking to see if marktraceur appears [14:28:38] cscott: no, i fixed the wikicode [14:29:00] cscott: it was about

stuff
rendering as
stuff
instead of

stuff

, basically [14:29:20] MatmaRex: does the wikicode involve comments or blockquotes? because the behavior of both of those might change slightly soonish. [14:29:21] and
\nstuff\n
rendering as

stuff

as expected in that case [14:29:31] no, just divs [14:29:47] and like five levels of indirection [14:29:52] but yeah, the whole newline before/after div stuff is very strange. there are a whole bunch of parser tests subbu wrote to try to document it and keep it consistent between parsoid and php. [14:30:35] keep your eye out for editors with issues. that fix is getting deployed today. [14:30:45] yeah, it's all very awful and usually doesn't matter at all [14:31:03] fix == lines blank except for *two* comments are now treated the same as lines blank except for *one* comment. [14:31:05] except when it does due to strange mixing of inline, block and floating elements [14:31:13] and "blank" now means "spaces and tabs" instead of "just spaces" [14:31:14] Sorry I was late [14:31:16] blergh. [14:31:22] cscott: hmmmmm [14:31:24] marktraceur: it does work! [14:31:30] cscott: have you tried how the main page of pl.wp renders now? [14:31:36] it uses some tabs [14:31:50] which are not to be interpreted as 
[14:32:03] 	 Rahul21: You don't want to do that
[14:32:14] 	 MatmaRex: no, the tab/space thing is just in the "blank except for comments" rule.
[14:32:20] 	 marktraceur: why?
[14:32:35] 	 i'll check pl.wp anyway.  what time is mw deployment, actually.  i know it's "today" but what does that mean exactly?
[14:32:36] 	 alright, cool
[14:32:39] 	 https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Strona_g%C5%82%C3%B3wna&action=edit
[14:32:42] 	 Rahul21: I have a dream, a dream where UploadWizard classes for uploading and other stuff can be used by other extensions without loading a bunch of bloaty interface code.
[14:32:49] 	 But it is not this day.
[14:32:52] 	 Wait
[14:32:56] 	 May be crossing some wires.
[14:33:10] 	 (i'm kinda proud of that code. ;) )
[14:33:12] 	 MatmaRex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cscott/bug41756 are the pages in enwiki which might be affected.  all the ones I spot-checked were harmless.
[14:33:12] 	 But, ext.uploadWizard is too big and loads too many unnecessary bits
[14:33:53] 	 cscott: we'll fix it after it breaks ;)
[14:34:01] 	 marktraceur: but I cant get to load it anyways, I installed uploadWizard extension and it is working perfectly
[14:34:07] 	 s/fix/worry about/
[14:34:12] 	 MatmaRex: yeah, it should be trivial.  i'm just giving #mediawiki a heads-up.
[14:34:21] 	 marktraceur: I know it is too big, I actually just need 4 files
[14:34:32] 	 MatmaRex: is there parsertest asserting that  is not a trigger for preformatted text?
[14:34:40] 	 Rahul21: Take those files, and put them in your own module.
[14:34:46] * cscott  treats the parsertests as the definitive specification for wikitext
[14:34:51] 	 That's the solution for now, though a little hacky.
[14:35:16] 	 marktraceur: are you up late or up early?
[14:35:29] 	 this is supposed to be my quiet east-coast-hackers-only hacking time
[14:35:37] 	 marktraceur: I actually thought of that, but Matthew Flaschen didnt find that cool
[14:35:38] 	 hehe
[14:35:56] 	 cscott: no idea
[14:36:14] 	 MatmaRex: i'll check, and Make It So if need be.
[14:36:19] 	 cscott: probably there isn't one, as i think parsoid disagrees about this
[14:36:59] 	 well, parsoid should agree before we deploy ve to pl
[14:37:25] 	 VE is deployed on pl.wp for some time already
[14:37:45] 	 Rahul21: Alternative would be to pull those files out to a separate module in UploadWizard, make ext.uploadWizard depend on that module, and use that instead
[14:37:54] 	 of course no normal pages use tabs
[14:38:04] 	 but i wrote the main page in a real text editor, y'know. ;)
[14:38:11] 	 yeah, it's opt-in only thought because ~90% of their pages use {{Largethumb}}, which parsoid can't handle yet.
[14:38:17] * cscott  assumes MatmaRex means emacs
[14:38:58] 	 cscott: do you mean pt.wp? or nl, or what?
[14:39:01] 	 marktraceur: but I wanted to learn one thing, how do I use a module defined in some other extension?
[14:39:04] * cscott  might be confusing plwiki with another, of course
[14:39:07] 	 pl is deployed and went mostly smooth
[14:39:15] 	 apart from the refs templates thing
[14:39:20] 	 nevermind then i'm probably confused.
[14:39:23] * MatmaRex  actually used Sublime T
[14:39:25] 	 ~ext
[14:39:38] 	 all these wiki start to blend together after awhile.
[14:39:49] 	 at least the latin-alphabet ones.  debugging the others is always memorable.
[14:40:00] 	 Rahul21: It shouldn't take anything, really...you might need to make sure the extension is require_once()'d before yours
[14:40:12] 	 although i'm a new fan of sr-ec
[14:40:17] 	 haha
[14:41:25] 	 and the forthcoming en-pig, of course.
[14:42:25] * cscott  is hoping for en-uk, en-us, and en-pig-us eventually, just to make the language converter code more visible and intelligible to enwiki hackers.
[14:42:27] 	 -x-piglatin ;)
[14:42:37] 	 yeah, yeah, but that's a boring safe extension. ;)
[14:42:39] 	 marktraceur: I am getting this error ReferenceError: UploadWizardConfig is not defined 
[14:42:47] 	 ;)
[14:42:56] 	 cscott: What is en-uk? Ukranian English?
[14:42:58] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki images not being indexed properly by external search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52647  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[14:43:04] 	 i actually checked gerrit to see what you had named it, then decided i liked en-pig better. ;)
[14:43:16] 	 Lcawte: sorry, do you prefer en-gb?
[14:43:24] 	 cscott: Well, Britain is Great :P
[14:43:27] 	 or en-ie ?
[14:44:42] 	 it's one of those issues which will undoubtedly cause huge rows in editor-land, but i just want those variants for pure hackerly purposes.
[14:44:57] 	 Rahul21: You may need to work on the files and make sure they're not dependent on UploadWizard-specific things...sorry it's not trivial
[14:45:13] 	 it makes it so much easier to document the behavior of the language converter
[14:45:44] 	 eg: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoped_language_converter#Examples
[14:45:57] 	 cscott: Well en-gb is already in core, it's the standard for British English (well, I say that because MW uses it, and so does failbook)
[14:46:26] 	 marktraceur: so I guess for the time being, I should copy those 4 files related to the upload in my extension and make a module out of it and then load it
[14:47:03] 	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_localisation#Language_tags_and_codes
[14:47:05] 	 liangent said yesterday that language converter doesn't actually work for en-gb and en-us right now.  i should figure out why.
[14:47:28] 	 Rahul21: Or, you could make the changes to your local copy of UploadWizard and upload two changes at once
[14:48:07] 	 marktraceur: two changes?
[14:48:41] 	 One to your extension, one to UW
[14:50:09] 	 Lcawte: ok, sure: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment%2FScoped_language_converter&diff=764580&oldid=763993
[14:51:30] 	 cscott: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26121 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15161 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31015
[14:53:55] 	 liangent: but what about the -{}- syntax?  i thought that was there to break up word conversion rules?
[14:54:14] 	 is the issue simply that language converter has a different notion of 'word' than latin-script languages?
[14:55:26] 	 cscott: there is one to break a continuous sequence of characters into two words
[14:55:51] 	 but there isn't one to force a continuous sequence of characters to be one word instead of two
[14:56:49] 	 have you talked to VE team about bug 15161?
[14:57:47] 	 liangent: (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15161#c3 answered my question about word division)
[14:57:54] 	 it should be en-GB, not en-UK, unless we want to invent yet another standard  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_localisation#Language_tags_and_codes
[14:59:10] 	 Vulpix: yes, yes, i've been corrected already. i'm just an ignorant yank.
[15:00:12] 	 liangent: how do you handle article editing in zhwiki.  do articles end up with mixed zh-hant and zh-hans?
[15:00:19] 	 cscott: yes
[15:00:30] 	 Vulpix: Whats the problem with inventing standards, as long as other people catch on? :P
[15:00:35] 	 liangent: i would think that would be quite politically controversial.
[15:00:53] 	 cscott: why
[15:01:08] 	 we keep what the original author wrote initially
[15:01:29] 	 no matter what topic the article is about
[15:01:38] 	 liangent: do most people read both zh-hans and zh-hant?  I though there was a taiwan/mainland split.
[15:02:14] 	 Lcawte: good joke, I'm sure you love writting code that needs to work on all browsers ;)
[15:03:25] 	 cscott: I can read both without any dedicated time spent on learning the other script
[15:03:37] 	 but some people may feel some difficulty
[15:04:30] 	 bug 15161 seems to think it's very important to allow editing the article in the user's preferred variant
[15:06:00] 	 anyway I haven't seen much complaint from editors
[15:06:03] 	 en-gb/en-us, and sr/sr-ec seem to be mutually intelligible but some of the other pairs maybe less so.
[15:06:10] 	 but if VE can handle it - it's nice
[15:07:03] 	 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866  +comment (10CalakWiki)
[15:08:10] 	 well, VE already contains code to minimize dirty diffs. So perhaps whatever small section is edited gets marked with the variant it was written in.
[15:08:44] 	 so that we don't end up re-saving the entire article in the translated variant when it is edited.
[15:09:39] 	 liangent: i think i'd like to spend some time working on these issues.  who else is thinking/working on this?
[15:11:25] 	 cscott: if VE can rewrite only the part of wikitext which user has touched - that's what we want
[15:11:42] 	 I'm not aware of anyone "working on it" currently
[15:11:53] 	 but the idea has been mentioned in zhwp village pump
[15:12:55] 	 Vulpix: Sure, thats only like two or three browsers... I don't consider IE a browser, its more like one of those pointless broken Microsoft excuatables that hog my disk :P
[15:14:28] 	 03(mod) A generalized conversion engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15161  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[15:15:30] 	 liangent: ok, i assigned bug 15161 to myself for now.  i'm sure we'll talk about this issue lots more. ;)
[15:16:56] 	 cscott: what about conversion for languages like English?
[15:17:06] 	 are you going to work on it too?
[15:17:08] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Remove obsolete retry token logic in mw.Target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51253  (10James Forrester)
[15:17:39] 	 03(mod) Font for the page contents gets changed if display setting fonts are changed for English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49151  +comment (10Lokal_Profil)
[15:17:54] 	 liangent: i'm certainly going to think about it.  ideally we could generalize the language converter to work on english, portuguese, and other languages.
[15:18:13] 	 liangent: the more different groups use the codebase, the easier it will be to get people to contribute to it. ;)
[15:19:23] 	 i'm probably going to start by working on the preprocessor issues and the  bug.  i need to get familiar with the codebase before i start making big changes.
[15:22:03] 	 03(NEW) Usage of variables should be possible in lilypond code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52883 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Score; ()
[15:26:27] 	 03(mod) Usage of variables should be possible in lilypond code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52883  (10Andre Klapper)
[15:28:40] 	 03(mod) Labslogbot creates shell request pages for users in "limbo" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52196  +comment (10tim)
[15:28:51] 	 03(mod) Change the Location datatype to support dimension but not altitude - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50803  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:29:53] 	 03(mod) Vips scalar hits memory limit when scaling large (100MB) progressive jpeg file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51275  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:30:24] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Installer: MySQL Fatal Error "1283: Column 'si_title' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index" for collation set to "binary" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47191  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:31:49] 	 03(mod) Add possibility to override displayed pages interval in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52882  (10Andre Klapper)
[15:32:58] 	 03(mod) Search for filename with dashes on Commons does not return said file (seems to exclude string after dash) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50018  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[15:35:17] 	 03(mod) Experimental reply feature does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52514  (10Andre Klapper)
[15:35:31] 	 03(mod) Cannot do mobile editing on Kindle e-reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52227  +comment (10Sage Ross)
[15:35:31] 	 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853  +comment (10springle)
[15:36:51] 	 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:37:28] 	 03(mod) ULS IME selector goes off-screen in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50690  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:38:49] 	 03(mod) Cannot do mobile editing on Kindle e-reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52227  +comment (10jgonera)
[15:39:41] 	 03(mod) Cannot do mobile editing on Kindle e-reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52227  +comment (10ragesoss)
[15:43:41] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:44:00] 	 I'm trying to upload a file and I am getting this error but the file uploaded successfully -- although mediawiki didn't mark it as uploaded 
[15:44:01] 	 Could not rename file "/tmp/phpdrAIf2" to "public/4/47/TestImage2.png". 
[15:44:05] 	 can anyone help me??
[15:48:55] 	 Can someone help me understand why my SkinTemplateNavigation hook is being inconsistent?
[15:50:18] 	 I have 'href' set to Main_Page and half the time it directs properly to 'index.php/Main_Page' and the other half of the time it derps. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[15:52:11] 	 by derps I mean the URL points directly to 'Main_Page' without the index.php, meaning nowhere
[15:53:30] 	 Ulfr_: give me the full url you are using.
[15:54:13] 	 At least from the first /
[15:55:08] 	 Ulfr_: You should not use href="Main_Page", but href="/path/to/index.php/Main_Page"
[15:56:27] 	 Should be /scriptpath/index.php?title=
[15:57:19] 	 he's using "crappy short URL"
[15:57:57] 	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Broken Foxlingo Firefox extension injects javascript into page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52884 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:58:24] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Broken Foxlingo Firefox extension injects javascript into page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52884  (10Chris McKenna)
[15:58:25] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Broken browser plugins cause cruft to be injected into the page (tracker) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52327  (10Chris McKenna)
[15:58:41] 	 For example... The URL for the main page of English Wikipedia is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_page but using index.php it is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_page
[15:59:14] 	 that's why I said he's using crappy short urls
[15:59:36] 	 ;) now he knows what that means. 
[16:00:07] 	 That's the default installation setting https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUsePathInfo
[16:00:21] 	 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[16:01:23] 	 Ulfr_: basically, "Main Page" is a relative URL, relative to the current folder. When you have index.php/Main_Page, the "folder" is index.php. But if you have index.php?title=Main_Page the folder is what comes before index.php
[16:01:53] 	 so you should use an absolute URL, or  a server-relative URL
[16:02:38] 	 Ulfr_: are you still here and getting all this?
[16:02:42] 	 lol
[16:03:19] 	 Technical_13: Yup. Sorry. Was outside.
[16:03:44] 	 Vulpix: Don't pick on my URLs :(
[16:04:05] 	 03(mod) Install Education Program extension on pt.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52870  +comment (10dan.mac22)
[16:05:19] 	 ideally, you should use any function that already exists for getting the full URL of a given page name. I'm sorry to not suggest any, since I'm not familiar with them
[16:05:59] 	 Vulpix: See, Vector had a perfectly good home button. My boss decided left nav bars are things of the past and I had to jerry rig something to replace it
[16:10:30] 	 03(mod) Text contained in the head element is displayed in Japanese old mobile phone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35969  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[16:12:15] 	 03(mod) Formatter: Sections on Commons are not collapsed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48730  +comment (10maxsem.wiki)
[16:17:03] 	 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840  +comment (10cananian)
[16:20:27] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend don't support ReCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52207  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:22:48] 	 03(mod) Update tours for new edit tab selectors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52476  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[16:24:43] 	 Technical_13: Fixed it, thanks a lot man!
[16:24:54] 	 Vulpix: I'd thank you too but you made fun of my urls :(
[16:25:29] 	 no problem
[16:25:56] 	 lol ha
[16:29:19] 	 03(mod) Vips scalar hits memory limit when scaling large (100MB) progressive jpeg file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51275  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:30:30] 	 03(mod) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716  +comment (10cananian)
[16:34:42] 	 03(mod) A generalized conversion engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15161  +comment (10cananian)
[16:34:56] 	 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694  +comment (10federicoleva)
[16:36:08] 	 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434  +comment (10federicoleva)
[16:39:45] 	 03(mod) Output of usage of {{tl}} not visible. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50704  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[16:43:12] 	 03(NEW) Fatal error: Call to a member function parse() on a non-object in SpecialModifyEntity.php on line 94 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52885 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[16:50:26] 	 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840  +comment (10gwicke)
[16:52:27] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard not respecting default license of user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52611  +comment (10mtraceur)
[16:53:03] 	 hey, could ya help me out: id like to download a few pages from a custom wiki (of someone else) so i can read them offline. However, i have troubles with getting together all the linked and linkedlinked pages for the special:export commandline
[16:53:26] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend don't support ReCaptcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52207  (10Jon)
[16:53:26] 	 is there any trick to include all linked articles of a particular page into special:export ?
[16:56:04] 	 03(mod) Links with language variants can't automatically jump to mobile sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51753  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[16:59:33] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[17:01:54] 	 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840  +comment (10cananian)
[17:03:30] 	 03(NEW) suggestions returns subpage ahead of main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52886 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; ()
[17:03:41] 	 03(mod) suggestions returns subpage ahead of main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52886   +browser-test-bug (10Chris McMahon)
[17:03:49] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716   +i18n (10James Forrester)
[17:03:49] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor multilingual input / i18n issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33077  (10James Forrester)
[17:08:00] 	 no andre_______?
[17:08:37] 	 2013-08-15 - 09:25:56 -!- andre__ [~andre__@wikimedia/aklapper] has quit [Quit: Cheers & thanks for the fish.]
[17:08:40] 	 greg-g: ^^
[17:08:42] 	 03(mod) Can't switch from Zero to desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52536  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[17:08:56] 	 Hi, need a help. I want to get the links to thumbnails (highest resolution) of all pages in a djvu file.. Any suggestions??
[17:09:44] 	 marktraceur: thanks
[17:09:59] 	 Rtdwivedi, GorillaWarfare, you're dealing with those book things ^^
[17:10:08] 	 is it possible to get the rendered text via the api_
[17:10:11] 	 ?
[17:10:25] 	 lbenedix: You mean the HTML? Absolutely.
[17:10:25] 	 not the wikisyntax
[17:10:29] 	 great
[17:11:12] 	 lbenedix: Actually, via the normal endpoint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour?action=render
[17:11:41] 	 I need this for a bunch of revisions of an article
[17:11:52] 	 GorillaWarfare, Rtdwivedi Hi, need a help. I want to get the links to thumbnails (highest resolution) of all pages in a djvu file.. Any suggestions??
[17:12:09] 	 Hi! Yes.
[17:12:15] 	 03(mod) Parser interpretes  as  if XY begins with non-ascii character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17663  +comment (10cananian)
[17:13:04] 	 Just a sec.
[17:13:10] 	 Rtdwivedi, sure..
[17:14:56] 	 You can get the title of the page and after that $imageTitle = Title::makeTitle( NS_IMAGE, $title );
[17:15:07] 	 wfFindFile( $imageTitle ) gets you the corresponding file.
[17:15:26] 	 Rtdwivedi: In modern code, we now use NS_FILE instead of NS_IMAGE
[17:15:27] 	 Rtdwivedi, is it possible using pywikipedia??
[17:15:38] 	 And then $image->getHandler()->normaliseParams( );
[17:15:52] 	 bawolff: Thanks, I'll take care of that.
[17:16:07] 	 $thumbName = $image->thumbName()
[17:16:13] 	 $fullURL = $image->getThumbUrl( $thumbName );
[17:16:14] 	 this does the job: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=extracts&titles=San_Francisco&format=json
[17:16:27] 	 but I need to add a revision_id or timestamp
[17:16:57] 	 revision module should have an option to parse the content
[17:17:19] 	 balasankarc: This is working code. :) Its all there in documentation.
[17:17:21] 	 Are we up to *three* ways to solve this problem? :P
[17:18:22] 	 Rtdwivedi: Aren't you giving balasankarc PHP code to be used within the MediaWiki framework, though? I think they want to call the HTTP API and get this information.
[17:18:59] 	 marktraceur: Sorry, I did not pay attention to that. :/
[17:19:05] 	 03(mod) ins or del 1st occurrence in blockquote causes bogus newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15491  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[17:19:15] 	 's all right
[17:19:19] 	 Rtdwivedi, marktraceur : I , unfortunately, know only pywikipedia .. is there any script or something like that for this purpose?
[17:20:29] 	 balasankarc: I am not aware of any such scripts. Let us look for Tpt_
[17:20:36] 	 Ah, he isn't here.
[17:21:51] 	 Newbie dev asking for directions to more detailed MediaWiki API documentation. Help?
[17:22:01] 	 More detailed than what?
[17:22:05] 	 dan00b_river: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php
[17:22:12] 	 I can't imagine you needing any more than that.
[17:22:28] 	 03(mod) suggestions returns subpage ahead of main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52886  (10Nik Everett)
[17:22:31] 	 marktraceur, Reedy: More detailed than that, actually. :)
[17:22:34] 	 Rtdwivedi, is there any way to convert this to a wikilink - ml.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AChithrashala.djvu&page=17  ... different pages of djvu doesnot form different wiki pages.. thts my problem..
[17:22:42] 	 dan00b_river: What do you want to know, specifically?
[17:22:54] 	 dan00b_river: What detail do you need to know? Look at the relevant code files?
[17:23:22] 	 marktraceur, I'm trying to understand the various API endpoints and how to correctly use the parameters. Is there a beginner's guide of sorts?
[17:23:43] 	 There's sadly only one endpoint
[17:23:50] 	 AFAIK
[17:23:57] 	 Unfortunately, since I'm my own teacher, I seem to trip over some basic concepts at times...
[17:24:13] 	 dan00b_river: It's easier for us if you ask particular questions, but the api.php output and the mediawiki.org API docs are all we've got
[17:24:18] 	 03(NEW) undelete.php does not undelete articles in the File namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52887 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; ()
[17:24:23] 	 dan00b_river: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:API
[17:24:35] 	 balasankarc: just a moment.
[17:24:40] 	 marktraceur, ah, there. See, in my head, the various options that the one endpoint allows for exploration, all count as multiple (sub-) endpoints. :)
[17:24:44] 	 03(mod) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716  +comment (10gwicke)
[17:25:16] 	 dan00b_river: The REST fanboy in me wants to scream "blasphemer" at you, but it's all right :)
[17:25:34] 	 03(mod) undelete.php does not undelete articles in the File namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52887  +comment (10mediawiki)
[17:25:43] 	 marktraceur, understood. I'll try and form a more specific question eventually. And sorry for blaspheming. :(
[17:25:52] 	 Rtdwivedi, sure... 
[17:26:24] 	 dan00b_river: I was only joking, it's not as bad as all that
[17:27:20] 	 marktraceur, ah, okay. Heh. :)
[17:27:35] 	 balasankarc: I am assuming that you want wikilinks for some other purpose. May I know about it?
[17:28:06] 	 any tips how to get a wordcount for a wikipedia-article?
[17:28:35] 	 Get the article, and count the number of words in it ;)
[17:28:39] 	 Does VisualEditor have that feature?
[17:28:52] 	 Rtdwivedi, i want the urls to the thumbnails of all pages in a djvu file... 
[17:28:55] 	 there is a lot of wikisyntax, that makes the counting complicate
[17:28:57] 	 d
[17:30:38] 	 lbenedix: Get the textContent of the DOM
[17:31:04] 	 I'd like to get the plaintext via the api
[17:31:11] 	 Rtdwivedi, i am happy with anyway to get that... my input should be the link to a djvu file and output should be a text file with the urls of thumbnails of all pages..
[17:32:10] 	 this is almost plain text https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=extracts&titles=San_Francisco&format=json&explantext=&exsectionformat=plain
[17:32:31] 	 balasankarc: A very noobish solution to GET the page and travese the dom and get the src of the image.
[17:32:37] 	 *is to
[17:34:03] 	 03(NEW) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to MessageGroups::getSharedGroups() must implement interface MessageGroup, null given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52888 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[17:34:10] 	 Rtdwivedi, hmm... i wrote a python script upon the assumption all thumbnails are in the same folder in the server... but the input is quite long... i should give name of djvu file, number of pages and resolution... :)
[17:35:19] 	 balasankarc: Doing it from inside the MW framework is faster.
[17:35:44] 	 So, if I were you I would find a way to just get the title and then the image.
[17:36:13] 	 03(mod) undelete.php does not undelete articles in the File namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52887  +comment (10mediawiki)
[17:36:15] 	 I hope people forgive my noobish solutions. :P
[17:36:34] 	 03(mod) undelete.php should display an error when it fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52887  summary (10Dan Barrett)
[17:36:52] 	 ANyone seen Micru around?
[17:36:56] 	 Rtdwivedi, hmm... but the images cannot be directly extracted from the wiki page... title is always File:XYZ.djvu ... only the argument page changes..
[17:37:37] 	 03(mod) undelete.php should display an error when it fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52887  +comment (10mediawiki)
[17:38:04] 	 Another example: Consider https://ml.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A3%E0%B4%82:Chithrashala.djvu&page=16
[17:39:40] 	 src is //upload....../Xyz.djvu/page16-......jpg , run a loop to get these images.
[17:40:07] 	 03(mod) Move wiki to www.wikimedia.org.uk to avoid confusion with Wikimedia Ukraine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20182  +comment (10Mike Peel)
[17:40:29] 	 Rtdwivedi, yes.. thats what i also thought... then the input should be djvu name, resolution and number of pages...
[17:40:59] 	 So when you implemented it, what was the problem?
[17:41:29] 	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media insertion dialog should display a message if no media is found for the given search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52463  +comment (10WhatamIdoing)
[17:41:43] 	 Rtdwivedi, no problem... the problem is the user should know the available resolutions and the url of first page.. thats all.. :)
[17:43:03] 	 03(mod) sync articles from production wikis (css/gadgets) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49779  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[17:48:11] 	 03(NEW) The infobox template is not visible when editing the Mitsubishi 1MT on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52889 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[17:48:51] 	 parent5446: hi. Do you have time for a chat?
[17:51:24] 	 balasankarc: What is it that you're making?
[17:51:25] 	 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694  +comment (10Amgine.Saewyc)
[17:52:18] 	 Rtdwivedi, an image comparison app...
[17:52:46] 	 I see..
[17:53:10] 	 for mediawiki, right?
[17:53:33] 	 Rtdwivedi, in one way or another.. to check for copyright problems in djvus uploaded to wikisource..
[17:54:13] 	 How would you do that?
[17:55:00] 	 Moreover, only those books are uploaded to WIkisource which are either freely legally available, i.e., their copyright has expired. Thats what I know.
[17:55:17] 	 Rtdwivedi, i have a corpus with images of all pages of editions which are still-in-copyright ( the layout and all ) .. i need to get the images uploaded in the server and compare each of them with corresponding pages in the corpus..
[17:55:31] 	 Rtdwivedi, yes... but there may be some issues about the layout of the books...
[17:56:02] 	 03(mod) sync articles from production wikis (css/gadgets) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49779  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[17:56:10] 	 OK. I am not aware of those issues.
[17:56:58] 	 Rtdwivedi, Ok... content is free, layout MAY NOT be... thats all... we, in malayalam wikisource (am an admin there) are discussing it... so just for fun, doing this script..
[17:58:35] 	 balasankarc: tineye?
[17:58:48] 	 Amgine, sorry?
[17:59:11] 	 https://www.tineye.com/faq#what
[18:00:09] 	 Amgine, oh.. image search... but i need it on local level.. :) 
[18:01:12] 	 Oh, ugh. They have such a service, but it is a paid service.
[18:01:20] 	 https://www.tineye.com/faq#local_search
[18:01:47] 	 Amgine, Oh... 
[18:03:40] 	 Rtdwivedi: depending on how similar the images actually are, there are some free desktop solutions avialable
[18:04:33] 	 03(mod) Rethink "Search" --> "Advanced options" section of Special:Preferences in MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52817  +comment (10Chad H.)
[18:06:02] 	 (of course ican't find one when i need it)
[18:07:45] 	 03(mod) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716  +comment (10liangent)
[18:08:10] 	 Rtdwivedi: aha, got it
[18:08:17] 	 http://www.visipics.info/
[18:08:31] 	 Rtdwivedi, so, good night... thanx for your time and your help... :)
[18:08:36] 	 i've usedit successfully a few times to dedup a few gigabytes of wallpapers ;)
[18:09:04] 	 Amgine, you too... bye..
[18:09:11] 	 Good night!
[18:10:43] 	 Thanks MatmaRex; that one will come in handy for me.
[18:11:55] 	 hey, their mediawiki isn't even that badly outdated, 1.18
[18:12:05] 	 Hi, I need an expert for create account by mail, I want to add this as a new special page (within the framework of E:OpenID), link and page is added, but http://dpaste.com/1344524/ does not work. Any idea ?
[18:17:18] 	 03(mod) "Remember me" on Login interface should state "for 30 days" only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47694  +comment (10mflaschen)
[18:23:27] 	 03(NEW) create Jenkins builds for CirrusSearch tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52890 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; ()
[18:23:51] 	 03(mod) create Jenkins builds for CirrusSearch tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52890  normal->major (10Chris McMahon)
[18:25:11] 	 03(mod) trigger Jenkins build on merge for ULS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52120  (10Chris McMahon)
[18:25:12] 	 03(mod) create Jenkins builds for CirrusSearch tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52890  (10Chris McMahon)
[18:31:33] 	 03(mod) Implement "Templates used on this page" collapsing below edit window and the rest of Vector's footercleanup module in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43689  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:31:50] 	 03(mod) Implement "Templates used on this page" collapsing below edit window and the rest of Vector's footercleanup module in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43689  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:36:06] 	 03(mod) Revive the WLM Commons app as a community supported app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52819  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[18:38:18] 	 03(mod) Implement "Templates used on this page" collapsing below edit window and the rest of Vector's footercleanup module in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43689  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:39:17] 	 what should the initial value of $wgUploadWizardConfig be set to?
[18:40:35] 	 Rahul21: It's set automatically by the extension
[18:40:41] 	 03(mod) Parser interpretes  as  if XY begins with non-ascii character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17663  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[18:40:44] 	 Rahul21: You add array keys to it to override
[18:41:43] 	 03(mod) List of Gerrit users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35508  (10Chad H.)
[18:42:04] 	 03(mod) Add specific reviewer in Gerrit on SQL changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36228  (10Chad H.)
[18:43:01] 	 marktraceur: The variable should be defined in the LocalSettings.php but, right?
[18:43:17] 	 No.
[18:43:23] 	 It's an array that already exists.
[18:43:27] 	 03(mod) mediawiki/extensions.git does not update some extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49846  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[18:43:50] 	 You have to put the UW config after including UW itself, but then $wgUploadWizardConfig is an array, and you add keys to it as you need to
[18:45:17] 	 03(NEW) GettingStarted broken in Sauce Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52891 major; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; ()
[18:45:28] 	 03(mod) GettingStarted broken in Sauce Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52891  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[18:49:09] 	 03(mod) Support language variant conversion in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41716  +comment (10gwicke)
[18:51:05] 	 03(mod) Do not convert text marked as being in another language with a lang attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37617  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[18:52:14] 	 03(mod) Use touchend instead of click event where possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46012  +comment (10Jon)
[18:54:47] 	 jdlrobson: touchend ?
[18:55:02] 	 thedj: what about it?
[18:55:46] 	 note that there is an accessibility concern there. clicked is automatically triggered by input controls if you use spacebar or return.
[18:55:50] 	 touchend isn't. 
[18:56:17] 	 thedj: It's a MobileFrontend bug, so
[18:56:27] 	 Not sure how prevalent spacebar and return are
[18:56:41] 	 thedj: it's for the mobile site - we use touchend where available falling back to mouseup
[18:56:56] 	 well, i thought you should know, just in case JS of that makes it into core at some point.
[18:56:58] 	 it's only alpha at the moment - but it's something we've wanting to be experimenting with for some time
[18:58:02] 	 jdlrobson: it's only for inputcontrols ( , ,