[00:00:10] I think its more to do with the amount I ate, and the lack of other things I ate that day [00:00:31] nod [00:00:35] so hopefully if I just have a little at a time, I'll be fine [00:00:36] 03(mod) create wikimediaUA-announce mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52947 +comment (10attolippip) [00:00:39] I hope so [00:01:10] * sumanah pushes for sourdough to replace stroopwafels as the new Wikimedia community starchy treat [00:01:31] 03(mod) Bugzilla should have a nice logo that is in keeping with the rest of our logo suite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49460 +comment (10b) [00:01:40] my spouse just made some really good peanut butter chocolate ice cream, wish I could share it here [00:03:16] hey, so bawolff, since you commented on one of my other CirrusSearch bugs and manybubbles is not around: check out https://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=.%3F*%2F%28%2944%24%24%24&fulltext=Search&profile=all&redirs=1 which misses https://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sumanah [00:03:24] what's your take? bug? [00:04:15] Quoting it - aka https://test2.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=all&search=%22.%3F*%2F%28%2944%24%24%24%22&fulltext=Search [00:04:17] gets it [00:04:45] maybe one of those characters have special meaning, or some sort of regex-ish thing is going on [00:04:54] * bawolff knows very little about new search stuff [00:05:28] or actually, that just seems to get everything with 44 in it [00:05:45] I don't really know. If in doubt, file a bug [00:06:42] I thought so, just wanted to check with you for a second look. Will do! [00:06:51] yay, my old pal Zack did email wikitech-l [00:07:32] csteipp: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071220.html & http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071221.html may be of interest to you. [00:08:02] hmm interesting [00:09:33] 03(mod) Wikisource page ns. post-edit confirmation interferes with subsequent .djvu page display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52591 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:12:22] 03(NEW) Use "https:" on keywords description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52949 enhancement; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [00:12:22] 03(mod) Secure Server (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27946 (10Helder) [00:12:30] I still think the discussion about ssl would become a lot clearer if we had a detailed plan about which threats we want to prevent against, and which we don't [00:12:39] right [00:12:45] Zack mentions that in his 2nd email [00:12:55] some people want to protect against the nsa, others just want to stop session stealing attacks [00:13:09] 03(mod) AbuseFilter needs regression tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40478 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [00:13:22] "If we are serious about defending about traffic analysis, one of the first things we should do is have a bunch of experienced editors and developers sit down and work out an exhaustive list of things we don't want to reveal." [00:13:24] 03(mod) AbuseFilter doesn't set "moved_to_namespace" variable anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52053 +need-unittest (10Helder) [00:13:33] although that's about what *items* get revealed, not to whom [00:14:34] csteipp: maybe you can point to documentation of the threat models we are concerned with? Hmm actually bawolff maybe you could mention that in a quick email reply to the thread so Zack can see it too [00:14:53] I made a similar comment on the bug [00:17:46] nod [00:23:26] Hmm, I wouldn't if tyler phrased the last sentence of his email like that on purpose [00:23:32] s/wouldn't/wonder [00:24:59] 03(mod) create wikimediaUA-announce mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52947 normal->15enhancement (10Anatoliy Goncharov) [00:25:20] 03(mod) AbuseFilter doesn't set any of the "moved_to..." variables anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52053 summary; +comment (10Helder) [00:27:44] 03(mod) Some infoboxes are clipped on some smartphones (wrong "min-resolution" value?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52572 +comment (10kagatlin) [00:28:02] 03(mod) Some infoboxes are clipped on some smartphones (wrong "min-resolution" value?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52572 +comment (10kagatlin) [00:30:47] Kagatlin, all infoboxes are clipped on smartphones. [01:06:24] Hi. I am trying to use the Watchlist Atom feed, but I can't get my server authenticated - if I try to retrieve the feed with CURL, i get wlnotloggedin. the URL is like this: http://wiki.example.com/w/api.php?action=feedwatchlist&allrev=allrev&wlowner=MyAccount&wltoken=123456789asdf&feedformat=atom [01:14:49] Konzertheld: are you sure wltoken is right? [01:15:29] bawolff: yes. I used the link provided in the sidebar and checked it anyway. [01:16:53] Konzertheld: Does your wiki have any weird permission set up (for example logged out viewers aren't allowed to view anything) [01:18:02] bawolff: none that I know of. It's read-only for guests. I am not an administrator. Actually, it does not work for Wikipedia either, if that matters. [01:18:32] Well that's easier for me to debug, since I can test wikipedia [01:19:15] Wikipedia works fine for me [01:20:35] hm. I just tried Wikipedia again by just passing the URL provided in the sidebar to CURL, it just gives me an RSS feed with one item, saying You must be logged in etc [01:21:13] both Wikipedia and my wiki work fine in a browser, both don't with curl [01:21:16] Konzertheld: If you don't mind, (and if you don't view the contents of your watchlist as super private), could you give me the exact url you used? [01:22:10] (If you do view the contents of your watchlist as private, that's ok) [01:23:14] well, I can change the token anytime if I somewhen consider it private. :) [01:24:08] Hmm, the url you gave me seems to work for me [01:24:17] odd. how do you test it? [01:27:33] not sure if anybody here uses it, but I'm trying to install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OATHAuth on my wiki. it installs, and seems to work, except you don't actually have to put a token in to login... [02:52:37] 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431 +comment (10mahitgar) [03:19:30] 03(mod) Task generation fails for anonymous users on Sauce - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52891 (10Matthew Flaschen) [03:22:06] 03(NEW) Required Switching option to Edit Source mode from VE Edit mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52950 enhancement; VisualEditor: General; () [03:27:02] 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431 +comment (10mahitgar) [03:29:59] 03(NEW) Add tabindex to the form elements in the JSON editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52951 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [03:30:13] 03(mod) Add tabindex to the form elements in the JSON editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52951 (10Molly White) [03:30:13] 03(mod) Create an tool for edit books(group of pages) that reduces the learning curve - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51239 (10Molly White) [03:31:19] 03(NEW) Only show one [add] link when there are no sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52952 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; () [03:31:28] 03(mod) Only show one [add] link when there are no sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52952 (10Molly White) [03:31:28] 03(mod) Allow chapter list to be edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51970 (10Molly White) [03:48:53] 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431 +comment (10mahitgar) [03:51:43] 03(mod) Task generation fails for anonymous users on Sauce - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52891 +comment (10Steven Walling) [03:56:20] 03(NEW) Fix GettingStarted experience for blocked users/IPs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52953 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [04:36:01] 03(NEW) Update collection of articles when a page is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52954 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [04:36:11] 03(mod) Update collection of articles when a page is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52954 (10Steven Walling) [04:37:06] 03(mod) Update collection of articles when a page is protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52954 +comment (10Steven Walling) [04:54:31] 03(NEW) GettingStarted toolbar overlaps with VE post edit confirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52955 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [04:54:48] 03(mod) GettingStarted toolbar overlaps with VE post edit confirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52955 (10Steven Walling) [04:56:54] 03(mod) Use "https:" on keywords description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52949 +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:01:13] 03(NEW) internal.loadTour() accesses definedTours properties without checking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52956 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [06:04:49] 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431 +comment (10mahitgar) [06:46:00] Haw about filesystem categories -- split categories to main type (tree), only category per article and category, and extended type (graph) -- multiply categories? See also http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Предложения [06:48:28] GalaxyHazard: Can you ask your question again in a different way? I don't think I understood you. [06:54:33] Every article has categorylist. Can we split categories to one mine and others extended? Mine category is filesystem (tree) with path to root. And extended type categories (graph). [06:55:05] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15434 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:17:59] 03(NEW) Creation of tl-informal as a new interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52957 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [07:26:53] 03(mod) On Special:UnconnectedPages, exclude articles in discussion namespace, user namespace and mediawiki namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52503 (10pyfisch) [07:55:49] marktraceur: hello' [08:04:13] 03(mod) Feature request for VisualEditor language setting +ULS +Wikidata interwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51355 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:30:53] 03(mod) Enhance and mingle MediaWiki extension InputBox with Universal Language Selector to provide 2 new parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51345 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:33:27] 03(NEW) ArgumentException (duplicate key) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52958 normal; Huggle: Application; () [08:35:17] 03(mod) Tooltip (text display) to hover over icon (sign) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51353 summary (10Mahitgar) [08:42:28] 03(mod) Tooltip (text display) to hover over icon (sign) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51353 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:49:52] 03(mod) Need ULS selection method options, to display horrizontally at message: MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51357 +comment (10mahitgar) [08:59:15] 03(mod) Add ULS language setting dialogue box in VisualEditor page settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51356 +comment (10mahitgar) [09:03:55] 03(mod) internal linkings to a page, in specific mediawiki message not working when used with abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45195 +comment (10mahitgar) [09:04:54] 03(mod) internal linkings to a page, in specific mediawiki message not working when used with abuse filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45195 normal->15enhancement (10Nemo) [09:32:23] 03(mod) Enable blocking feature of AbuseFilter on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52681 +comment (10at.light) [09:32:49] 03(mod) Enable blocking feature of AbuseFilter on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52681 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:32:52] 03(mod) Enable blocking feature of AbuseFilter on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52681 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:34:48] 03(mod) Make Special:ManageMessageGroups project specific - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52780 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:36:00] 03(mod) Requesting temporary lift of IP cap for TISS Mumbai workshop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52808 +comment (10This, that and the other) [09:46:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reverse selections break copy paste functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51538 +comment (10Chris McKenna) [09:46:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preserve rich text formatting when pasting from internal or external sources (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33105 (10Chris McKenna) [09:53:41] 03(NEW) Add font for Yi - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52959 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [09:54:08] 03(mod) Add a Linear B web font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50963 summary (10Amir E. Aharoni) [09:54:57] 03(mod) Prompt the user to confirm a page change while an LQT edit form is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46040 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:01:47] 03(mod) Sections generated by tag extension do not show up in TOC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45317 +comment (10lord_farin) [10:04:00] 03(NEW) Unable to merge code for Maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52960 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; () [10:15:19] 03(NEW) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; () [10:20:18] 03(mod) Assistance link in explanation message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43922 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:21:01] 03(mod) Assistance link in explanation message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43922 (10Nemo) [10:22:27] 03(mod) Use "https:" on keywords description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52949 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:24:07] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:24:08] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:25:32] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:26:30] 03(mod) Mention potentially missing tag in Cite error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45415 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:26:46] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [10:27:19] 03(mod) Mention potentially missing tag in Cite error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45415 +comment (10Nemo) [10:27:35] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 (10Niklas Laxström) [10:32:08] 03(mod) Prompt the user to confirm a page change while an LQT edit form is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46040 +comment (10Nemo) [10:36:30] MatmaRex: Hi. I applied your patch http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGadget-HotCat.js&diff=102093716&oldid=98045291 please see if is correct and is working. Thank you [10:37:20] 03(NEW) Add a Lao web font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52962 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [10:39:47] ebraminio: hey, thanks. i forked hotcat earlier on pl.wp with this patch and it worked, so it should work there as well :) [10:40:02] hm, actually [10:40:08] you might want to update the version number [10:40:16] s/HotCat V2.23/HotCat V2.24/ [10:41:55] MatmaRex: Okay. Done! :) [10:42:33] thanks [10:43:18] ebraminio: chetori? [10:43:21] che mikoni? [10:43:37] dooshanbe miai berim isfahan [10:43:44] koli az bache ha mian [10:47:05] 03(NEW) site/title of action=wbeditentity gives error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52963 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:48:10] MatmaRex: Can you apply this http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-site.css [10:48:43] 03(NEW) Add a Sinhala web font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52964 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [10:49:45] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-site.css#Persian_font [10:50:30] ebraminio: i am not an admin on mw.org [10:50:38] oh okay [10:50:54] maybe i should be [10:52:44] 03(mod) site/title of action=wbeditentity gives error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52963 +comment (10Addshore) [10:52:45] 03(NEW) given summary param of action=wbeditentity is not shown in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52965 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [10:53:42] MatmaRex: I support! :) [10:58:42] ebraminio: okay, i just requested it :P [11:03:59] MatmaRex: +1 :) [11:22:04] checking [11:22:45] has anyone used the joomla mediawiki bridge [11:26:58] am i in the right place to ask questions on support... while since i used irc [11:27:44] Ausceltus: you are in right place for MediaWiki woes [11:28:07] and no, I've not even heard of joomla mediawiki bridge.. what is it ? [11:28:46] joomla wikimedia bridge allows login to joomla and mediawiki [11:28:54] sounds nice. [11:28:57] it installed successfully [11:29:30] works great however upon uninstalling i cannot get back into wikimedia [11:29:58] it is a joomla extension with good reviews [11:30:26] i c .. you must mean MediaWiki not wikimedia [11:30:52] I'm no developer or insider.. I've just been using the MediaWiki since 2003 [11:31:00] yes mediawiki [11:31:03] so I hang out here [11:32:34] very impressed with mediawiki-wrapping wiki into joomla [11:38:31] Hello... again [11:39:10] So this time, it's about the skin. We were working on reskinning the site after updating from 1.17 to 1.21, and we finally did it! Except that there's something on the recentchanges that's overriding our styling. [11:40:01] Give me a sec and I'll shoot you a link. [11:40:36] http://zeldawiki.org/test/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges [11:40:59] If you'll view any other page, you'll see that they work just fine [11:41:32] The main issues are the bars underneath the h3 headings (Navigation, Community, etc) [11:41:51] And the left border that strangely appears on certain vector tabs at the top\ [11:42:36] I've examined it to discover that the issue only exists on the recent changes. [11:43:53] I believe it has something to do with this: http://zeldawiki.org/test/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cmediawiki.special.changeslist%7Cskins.vector&only=styles&skin=vector&* [11:44:03] That's in the page source [11:45:14] 03(mod) Add block-options to Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18182 +comment (10Steven Zhang) [11:50:50] 03(mod) Add a Sinhala web font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52964 (10Kartik Mistry) [11:51:01] 03(mod) Add a Lao web font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52962 (10Kartik Mistry) [11:53:52] 03(NEW) key "default" should be InterfaceText rather than string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52966 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TemplateData; () [11:59:20] Hold on... Now it looks fine [11:59:27] I don't get it... Anyways, nevermind. [12:09:49] 03(mod) Add font for Yi - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52959 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [12:34:41] 03(mod) TemplateData: Page properties should not be stored twice (both Template and Template/doc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50512 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [12:46:05] 03(mod) [SMW] 1.8: Property autocomplete in Special:Ask is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40676 (10planetenxin) [13:01:10] 03(mod) [SMW] 1.8: Property autocomplete in Special:Ask is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40676 +comment (10MWJames) [13:20:01] 03(mod) given summary param of action=wbeditentity is not shown in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52965 +comment (10Addshore) [13:43:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Reverse selections break copy paste functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51538 (10Ed Sanders) [13:44:10] hello, can anyone tell me why MediaWiki doesn't want to FileCache redirect pages? [14:11:50] 03(NEW) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967 normal; Commons App: Android; () [14:17:24] 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967 normal->major; +comment (10Steinsplitter) [14:19:05] xain: Might be a feature, might be a bug. :-) [14:19:12] What are you seeing specifically? [14:27:50] 03(NEW) Increase $mChangeLimit from 100 to 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52968 normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; () [14:28:34] 03(mod) Increase $mChangeLimit from 100 to 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52968 (10Helder) [14:30:07] 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967 +comment (10yena.hong) [14:34:00] 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [14:37:26] 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967 +comment (10maarten) [14:40:51] !ask [14:40:52] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time � both yours and everybody else's. :) [14:41:31] Whoa, what's that character [14:41:43] MatmaRex: ^ [14:41:45] :p [14:42:32] Probably a dash, but I'd expect gnome-terminal to recognize those [14:43:17] let me simply replace it with an ascii one [14:43:19] !ask del [14:43:19] Successfully removed ask [14:43:25] !ask is Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time -- both yours and everybody else's. :) [14:43:25] Key was added [14:43:26] Besides, didn't we get rid of the !ask key? [14:45:02] Why did you get rid of it? [14:46:23] Krenair: It's not particularly friendly to newcomers, to sic bots on them right away (and it wasn't me) [14:47:23] Would rather use a bot than have to paste it in each time [14:49:00] 03(mod) New fields: ar_id, el_id. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49189 (10Sean Pringle) [14:50:26] 03(mod) Some tables lack unique or primary keys, may allow confusing duplicate data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15441 (10Sean Pringle) [14:52:11] 03(mod) PageTriage: different timezone settings cause looping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47645 +comment (10okeyes) [15:10:43] Krenair: The idea would be that a newbie might not like the bot option [15:10:55] Experienced folks do, but we're weird. :) [15:15:11] marktraceur: let [15:15:16] let's invent something [15:15:24] privmsg to wm-bot: !ask | #mediawiki [15:15:32] then it posts the response here [15:15:42] marktraceur: that was a ndash, as encoded by my irc client :/ [15:15:57] – [15:16:13] apparently something goes wrong in the tubes [15:16:13] MatmaRex: this works [15:16:17] !3x – [15:16:17] – – – [15:16:21] ha [15:16:26] then i actually fixed it [15:16:27] tubes? [15:16:43] but my irc client had to be rebooted. alright [15:16:44] !ask [15:16:44] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time -- both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:16:51] !ask del [15:16:52] Successfully removed ask [15:16:56] !ask is Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:16:57] Key was added [15:16:59] !ask [15:16:59] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:17:04] rrrrright. [15:21:20] 03(mod) The mw.user object needs to be rewritten - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52894 (10Krinkle) [15:26:11] 03(mod) Add United Kingdom to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49047 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [15:28:19] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10springle) [15:31:31] liangent: But that would still be someone with "bot" in their name welcoming people [15:33:52] marktraceur: then enhance the bot to use another nick to speak these lines [15:50:00] liangent: Seems like a bit of a technicality [15:50:19] liangent: I'd much rather have folks who want to help have client scripts to do this stuff [15:55:01] In fact, I'll write my own now. :) [16:04:35] 03(mod) Add Thailand in Thai to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49049 +comment (10romaine_wiki) [16:09:54] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [16:12:34] 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52961 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [16:17:29] MediaWiki doesn't cache redirect pages. I think redirect pages should be cached too. Any reason why they are not cached? [16:41:42] Hello, is it possible to restrict the usage of some magic words to certain usergroups? [16:42:50] Hello, is it possible to restrict the usage of some magic words to certain usergroups? [16:54:57] marktraceur: hello [16:55:43] 03(mod) Support logged out users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51722 +comment (10richa.jain1912) [16:59:00] 03(mod) Support permissions plugin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51738 (10richa jain) [17:18:16] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Vietnamese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52034 +comment (10cheerswiki) [17:38:09] 03(mod) Wikisource page ns. post-edit confirmation interferes with subsequent .djvu page display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52591 +comment (10ineuw) [17:45:00] 03(mod) Add Thailand in Thai to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49049 +comment (10maarten) [17:45:25] 03(mod) Add Thailand in Thai to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49049 +comment (10maarten) [17:50:01] does anyone know how reliable mw.config.values.BrowserDetect is? I can't find where is defined [17:50:08] it's* [17:50:32] 03(mod) Some tables lack unique or primary keys, may allow confusing duplicate data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15441 +comment (10tylerromeo) [18:03:54] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10ariel) [18:22:05] 03(mod) tools-webserver-01 seems to be out of memory from time to time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52527 +comment (10tim) [18:27:13] 03(mod) Cite back links miss accessibility properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38141 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:27:14] 03(mod) Cite back links miss accessibility properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38141 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:28:43] 03(mod) nlwiki logged in users shown wrong version of page, possible db corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52853 +comment (10Platonides) [18:41:03] Rahul21: Hi! [18:41:33] Rahul21: Don't just say hello; ask your question!~ [18:44:36] In the Bug 49991, should I make modules inside UploadWizard.php as per the convention? [18:44:44] marktraceur: ^ [18:44:59] Yes. [18:46:12] sure, ill upload a patch in sometime [18:47:29] you can build up on that then, I am actually confused what names to give to the modules, like "ext.upload.uploadWizard" is that cool? marktraceur [18:48:22] Rahul21: ext.uploadWizard.apiUpload might be a good one [18:48:37] sure thanks for that! [18:48:45] You could split them into as many dependencies as you'd like - or even load them on demand, in UploadWizard proper [18:52:06] 03(mod) Assamese typing problem in visualeditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52726 +comment (10gitartha.bordoloi) [18:55:16] hello :) is there a precompiled version for wm-bot? [19:24:14] I needs the most HI-FI CAPTCHA available for MediaWiki [19:24:19] the current one sucks ass [19:25:06] when I registered http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/ with http://WikiApiary.com I then noticed in the report that the system has 3,500 users of which about 100 are humans [19:25:47] and the amount of amount of accounts automizedly registered is rising by 100 / week [19:26:18] what do Wikimedia wikis use.. [19:26:46] I think I have the general CAPTCHA framework installed but just got outdated easily machinereadable CAPTCHAs [19:26:53] hold on.. I check.. [19:26:55] ConfirmEdit in its FancyCaptca mode is what WMF wikis use [19:27:01] *FancyCaptcha, even [19:28:37] I have ConfirmEdit (Version 1.1) [19:29:06] ashley: gotcha.. I will change the LocalSettings.php settings to use FancyCaptcha [19:29:29] 03(mod) Add Bolivia to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49051 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [19:29:30] you'll need some python voodoo and whatnot for that [19:29:37] but you might also be interested in QuestyCaptcha [19:29:53] which might even prove to be more effective [19:30:09] ashley: where can I find out about this QuestyCaptcha ? [19:30:15] 03(mod) Add Thailand in Thai to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49049 (10Maarten Dammers) [19:30:23] I'd like the same the Wikipedia uses [19:30:32] it's one of the available modules for ConfirmEdit [19:30:39] "what wikipedia uses" isn't always the best :) [19:30:42] 03(mod) Add United Kingdom to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49047 (10Maarten Dammers) [19:30:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha [19:31:16] ashley: tell me about it.. in 2003-2004 there was this one anti-wikipedia troll ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=142.177.X.X ) that really heated the sitiuation up [19:32:05] then I came up with http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/How_Consumerium_differs_from_Wikipedia_in_a_nutshell and that defused the situation [19:32:49] It's dissensus system all the way - like with http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Voting [19:33:33] Then we'll eventually have "Corporation X'es executives eat babies."-type of dis- and misinformation inserted into the system [19:34:41] The design as it is now provides for 3 important points: #1 Resilience to information warfare, #2 protects the consumer and #3 makes grounds for a good social media game ( SMG ) experience [19:40:52] also none of this matters if the consumers don't care or just don't come to the service [19:41:54] also it's been 11 yrs of talk and phancy theories and still pretty much no code.. not even to handle the voting and ( individualisable ) votecounting [19:42:03] I suck at information architecting [19:42:07] I cook for the coders [19:42:12] That's what I can offer [19:50:22] 03(mod) Pull out a lot of the UploadWizard-related libraries into separate RL modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49991 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:50:25] 03(mod) Pull out a lot of the UploadWizard-related libraries into separate RL modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49991 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:53:50] marktraceur: Submitted a patch, check it out when you're free [19:54:01] 03(mod) Add Hong Kong to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48810 +comment (10maarten) [19:54:07] 03(mod) Add Hong Kong to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48810 (10Maarten Dammers) [19:54:23] Will do [20:01:41] while working with resource loader, can we add "SCRIPTS" as dependencies? or should it always be a module? [20:04:16] 03(mod) [Regression] action=edit§ion=new on a non-existent page fails with error message of "editconflict" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52830 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [20:07:04] 03(mod) [Regression] action=edit§ion=new on a non-existent page fails with error message of "editconflict" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52830 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:09:16] Rahul21: Commented [20:09:25] Rahul21: Dependencies are always modules [20:11:20] marktraceur: Reply to your 5th inline comment [20:11:38] No you didn't [20:13:11] marktraceur: they are dependencies, inside the file mw.ApiUploadFormDataHandler.js an object of mw.FormDataTransport.js is created [20:13:59] Rahul21: And iFrameTransport? [20:14:57] similar is the case with mw.ApiUploadHandler.js and mw.IframeTransport.js [20:15:57] sorry for issues at your 1st and 2nd comment, careless me, too lazy to type :P [20:18:23] Rahul21: Then you should split out ApiUploadHandler into its own module, and depend on IframeTransport [20:18:35] There's a natural way to do these things :) [20:19:06] okay right up in the next patch [20:23:51] 03(mod) git.wikimedia.org (gitblit) is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51769 (10rupert.thurner) [20:27:26] 03(mod) Add Armenia in Armenian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52627 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:28:45] marktraceur: should we pull the scripts out for ext.uploadWizard as we progress with the patch? [20:28:59] *from [20:29:14] 03(mod) Add Venezuela in Spanish to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39172 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:30:25] 03(mod) Add Tunisia to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48448 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:30:42] 03(mod) git.wikimedia.org (gitblit) is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51769 (10rupert.thurner) [20:30:59] 03(mod) Add Aruba to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49048 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:31:17] 03(mod) Add Thailand in Thai to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49049 (10Maarten Dammers) [20:31:35] 03(mod) Add Jordan in Arabic to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49050 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:32:14] 03(mod) git.wikimedia.org (gitblit) is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51769 (10rupert.thurner) [20:33:47] 03(mod) Add Pakistan to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49052 +comment (10maarten) [20:35:22] 03(mod) Add Taiwan to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49053 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:36:19] Rahul21: Yeah, or they'll get loaded twice [20:37:05] marktraceur: we actually havn't loaded it yet [20:37:06] 03(mod) Add Cameroon in French to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52030 +comment (10maarten) [20:37:51] Well, you probably should :) [20:38:28] "just" providing the modules seems like a waste of a patch - pushing things into separate modules and using the dependencies is a good idea [20:38:40] 03(mod) Add China to the database in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52565 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:40:14] marktraceur: *I, I have just created modules, I'll just add the module for now and remove the corresponding scripts form the existing "ext.uploadWizard" module, then someone with a better understanding of the Uploadwizrd can make it dynamic in the long run [20:41:47] Rahul21: You should also make sure the uploadwizard module depends on them, but yeah, I'll do a followup patch quickly-ish [20:51:27] marktraceur: Uploaded a patch, good night :) [20:53:03] Night! [20:53:28] 03(NEW) accesskey "v" is already used for "show changes" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52969 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [20:53:49] *that's* why show changes wasn't working for me [20:58:31] 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Vietnamese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52034 +comment (10mxn) [21:02:01] 03(mod) Pull out a lot of the UploadWizard-related libraries into separate RL modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49991 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:02:31] 03(mod) Pull out a lot of the UploadWizard-related libraries into separate RL modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49991 +comment (10mtraceur) [21:02:38] 03(mod) Pull out a lot of the UploadWizard-related libraries into separate RL modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49991 (10Mark Holmquist) [21:14:16] 03(NEW) SMW Special Property for Creator is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52970 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [21:45:57] 03(mod) Use control to toggle visibility of annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52064 +comment (10mflaschen) [21:48:32] lool [22:05:23] 03(mod) Incubator site settings and related bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28486 (10MF-Warburg) [22:05:23] 03(NEW) Sitelinks to Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52971 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [22:10:24] 03(NEW) After account creation, no welcome message shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52972 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [22:12:06] 03(NEW) Install GettingStarted on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52973 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [22:24:37] How can I transclude / display a wiki page content in an extension using $wgOut [22:27:44] 03(mod) Add block-options to Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18182 +comment (10mfwarburg) [22:40:27] 03(mod) Enable blocking feature of AbuseFilter on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52681 +comment (10mfwarburg) [22:40:51] 03(mod) Install GettingStarted on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52973 +shellpolicy; +comment (10Dereckson) [22:45:40] tried the troubleshooting pointers on math rendering issues, but still getting "Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex and dvipng (or dvips + gs + convert))" any other ideas?