[00:00:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Label for link to original uploaded PDF says "Full resolution" instead of something like "Download file" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53017  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[00:02:36] <laurent_>	 Could someone explain to me (in simple words) what is the purpose of the first #ifexist in the system message? --> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&action=edit
[00:02:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mingle Wikidata interwiki links with ULS to choose display and input while visiting the link itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51431  +comment (10aklapper)
[00:03:21] <laurent_>	 Is it normal that there is a parenthese after {{FULLPAGENAME}}? --> {{FULLPAGENAME}})
[00:04:47] <|_[]|_>	 laurent_: what's before it?
[00:05:03] <laurent_>	 Please see on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&action=edit
[00:05:31] <laurent_>	 I don't understand the puprose of the first #ifexist
[00:06:52] <{{Guy}}>	 Me either, but to answer your question, those ) are not needed.
[00:07:18] <{{Guy}}>	 !magicwords
[00:07:18] <wm-bot>	 For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Magic_words>. For a list of magic words, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words>.
[00:07:42] <laurent_>	 do you think it may have something to case sensivity? check if the article already exists with a different case?
[00:07:50] <{{Guy}}>	 Yoy want second one
[00:07:56] <laurent_>	 (with case sensivity)
[00:08:07] <{{Guy}}>	 Nope, would be irrelevant.
[00:08:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:08:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:10:09] <laurent_>	 ok, I asked because I'm trying to find a way to check if a page title already exist but with a different case (for example if a user tries to create the page "MeDIaWiKi" he would see a message telling:" Did you mean "MediaWiki"?"
[00:10:54] <laurent_>	 so nobodoy knows why this strange #ifexist was added on en.wikipedia.org?
[00:18:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] action=edit&section=new on a non-existent page fails with error message of "editconflict" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52830  +comment (10b)
[00:18:44] <Kolega2357>	 How to fix problem with CentralAuth extension? Account unification is currently in a demo / debugging mode, so actual merging operations are disabled. Sorry!
[00:19:48] <thedj>	 laurent_: it's the result of this discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_67#Auto-complete_unclosed_bracket_redux
[00:21:25] <thedj>	 laurent_: so because many apps break links ending in ), we check if a page with that added to it exists, presuming that it is likely what the user is looking for.
[00:21:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 'Desktop' link requires cookies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51277  +comment (10jayvdb)
[00:21:53] <thedj>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&diff=prev&oldid=324442503
[00:22:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The infobox template is not visible when editing the Mitsubishi 1MT on the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52889  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:23:00] <laurent_>	 thank you thedj!
[00:23:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tweak language of "You must be logged in to edit pages on mobile" message in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52442  +comment (10b)
[00:24:13] <thedj>	 and you can't do 'different case', because there are permutations for each character (mediawiki being case sensitive and all). There would be too much possibilities for a title.
[00:25:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Re-examine user experience of anonymous users who have been disabled from editing anonymously - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53073  +comment (10b)
[00:27:12] <laurent_>	 I'm running a wiki for children and we have a lot of issues with duplicated articles created because of  bad use of uppercase and lowercase letters (i.e DOG instead of Dog)
[00:27:20] <Kolega2357>	 Does know anyone?
[00:28:17] <laurent_>	 I thought I may try something with this system message (MediaWiki:Newarticletext)
[00:29:19] <laurent_>	 anyway thank you for your help
[00:32:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update special pages more frequently to account for bad runs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45007  +comment (10Daniel Zahn)
[00:33:45] <mutante>	 
[00:36:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  (10Tyler Romeo)
[00:36:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  (10Tyler Romeo)
[00:39:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Block Laryomaima and Laryomaima234 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53055  +comment (10tim)
[00:39:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10swalling)
[00:45:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Highlight changes made since save in some way (e.g. with a text-background?) so users can see what changes they have outstanding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37931  +comment (10b)
[00:46:02] <{{Guy}}>	 laurent_: still here?
[00:46:43] <{{Guy}}>	 In your situation, I suggest turning off case sensitive titles for the childrens wiki.
[00:47:12] <{{Guy}}>	 I know there is a wgSomething setting for that in local.php
[00:47:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) operations-puppet-doc is failing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53081 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; ()
[00:59:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Remove "Enable 'jump to' accessibility links" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53082 enhancement; MediaWiki: User preferences; ()
[00:59:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove "Enable 'jump to' accessibility links" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53082  (10MZMcBride)
[00:59:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preferences in MediaWiki core to be removed (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52807  (10MZMcBride)
[01:01:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:01:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[01:01:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:01:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[01:01:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Block Laryomaima and Laryomaima234 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53055  +comment (10rlane32)
[01:03:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:03:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:03:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Jordan in Arabic to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49050  +comment (10Cristian Consonni)
[01:06:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Monitor effectiveness of HTCP purging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43449  +comment (10b)
[01:09:10] <laurent_>	 yes Guy, the problem is that we already have more than 10K articles... changing this setting now may be tricky.
[01:09:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:09:48] <laurent_>	 maybe there are a few things I could do with basic string templates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_string_handling_templates
[01:09:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716  normal->major (10James Forrester)
[01:15:21] <laurent_>	 ....by the way, I'm not sure there is a setting to easily turn off case sensitive titles
[01:15:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  major->normal; +comment (10Rich Farmbrough)
[01:18:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Monitor effectiveness of HTCP purging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43449  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[01:19:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Monitor effectiveness of HTCP purging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43449  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[01:22:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10richard)
[01:26:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[01:30:34] <scfc_de>	 wikibugs_: Who are you?
[01:31:07] <scfc_de>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikibugs
[01:32:39] <Elsie>	 You haven't met wikibugs?
[01:35:11] <scfc_de>	 Elsie: Of course I have :-); I just wanted to spare me googling for its page.  (Interested in why on new bugs the reporter isn't mentioned in IRC.)
[01:35:27] <Elsie>	 There's an open bug about that.
[01:35:33] <Elsie>	 wikibugs parses e-mail.
[01:35:36] <Elsie>	 It's super-hackish.
[01:35:45] <Elsie>	 So it's consequently inconsistent.
[01:36:22] <Elsie>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42774
[01:36:23] <Elsie>	 scfc_de: ^
[01:37:47] <scfc_de>	 Elsie: Thanks.
[01:38:19] <Elsie>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40970 as well.
[01:38:23] <Elsie>	 If you want a bug to work on. :-)
[01:38:50] <Elsie>	 Oh, right.
[01:38:58] <Elsie>	 I always forgot the answer to this is just installing better software, I think.
[01:39:01] <Elsie>	 forget *
[01:39:11] <Elsie>	 There are IRC add-ons that we haven't used/tried.
[01:42:00] <scfc_de>	 Elsie: I'll leave the bigger decisions to Andre :-).  But I don't quite understand why https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/44094/ didn't fix that back in January.  Hmmm.
[01:43:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Adding "total editcount" column to Special:Multilock page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53083 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; ()
[01:44:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding "total editcount" column to Special:Multilock page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53083  normal->15enhancement (10billinghurst)
[01:44:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492  (10billinghurst)
[01:46:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add component for PronunciationRecording MediaWiki extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53074  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[01:46:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[01:50:53] <scfc_de>	 Hmmm.  If I run wikibugs on my local machine, it reports the reporter as "tim", not "".
[01:54:40] <Elsie>	 Dunno.
[02:00:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  (10Tyler Romeo)
[02:00:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  (10Tyler Romeo)
[02:02:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Gerrit-Bugzilla bot re-opens bugs when patch is made for branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53084 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[02:19:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] wikibugs no longer reports user name for NEW bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42774  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[02:20:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement support for LESS pre-processor in ResourceLoader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40964  +comment (10ori)
[02:42:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Setting $wgCopyUploadsFromSpecialUpload = true does not trigger duplicate filename detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52978  +comment (10zoglun)
[03:17:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) No forcehttps cookies for sister projects on AutoLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53085 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; ()
[03:25:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add component for PronunciationRecording MediaWiki extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53074  +comment (10Amgine)
[03:28:41] <Amgine>	 <blames harej>
[03:28:46] <harej>	 hi amgin
[03:28:49] <Amgine>	 e
[03:28:53] <harej>	 qui-gon amjin
[03:29:10] <Amgine>	 <sniffs scotchishly>
[03:31:20] <harej>	 what kind of scotch
[03:32:37] <Amgine>	 Dalwhinnie
[03:33:30] <Amgine>	 How odd, I spelt it correctly. Extremely unlikely.
[03:35:41] <Amgine>	 <also blames Matthew Flaschen, although not for spelling.>
[03:37:40] <Amgine>	 Ah! mdale1! victim. 
[03:45:48] <harej>	 how old, how many malts
[03:45:55] <harej>	 at my hotel in hong kong they had a nice blended scotch
[03:45:58] <harej>	 blended, yes, but it tasted good
[03:46:02] <harej>	 it was free too!
[03:46:03] <harej>	 "free"
[03:46:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Postgresql 9.1; 42P01: ERROR: relation "ldap_domains" does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45293  +comment (10Bob Miller)
[04:17:50] <Amgine>	 Harej: 15y0, single malt.
[04:18:45] <harej>	 classy
[04:18:51] <Amgine>	 Blended can be fine, but it always tastes the same. Good, but perhaps not so interesting.
[04:37:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Postgresql 9.1; 42P01: ERROR: relation "ldap_domains" does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45293  (10Ryan Lane)
[04:37:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add postgres and sqlite support for LdapAuthentication schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44168  (10Ryan Lane)
[04:38:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) After upgrade MediaWiki and LdapAuthentication - Failed to authenticate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52649  (10Ryan Lane)
[04:38:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add postgres and sqlite support for LdapAuthentication schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44168  (10Ryan Lane)
[04:38:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) After upgrade MediaWiki and LdapAuthentication - Failed to authenticate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52649  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[04:38:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add postgres and sqlite support for LdapAuthentication schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44168  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[04:39:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Postgresql 9.1; 42P01: ERROR: relation "ldap_domains" does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45293  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[04:39:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add postgres and sqlite support for LdapAuthentication schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44168  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[04:45:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Mobile rendering improperly omits space after reference and before wikilink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53086 minor; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[04:48:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Build a hooking infrastructure for e.g. Flickr and YouTube integration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53046  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[04:48:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "Select language" could show your language(s) first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53077  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[05:59:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Extension:OpenID CSP not compliant because it still uses of inline CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53087 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenID; ()
[05:59:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Extension:OpenID CSP not compliant because it still uses of inline CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53087  (10T. Gries)
[06:00:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Extension:OpenID CSP not compliant because it still uses of inline CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53087  +comment (10mail)
[06:09:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Extension:OpenID is not yet CSP compliant because it still uses of inline CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53087  summary (10T. Gries)
[06:15:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [Regression] action=edit&section=new on a non-existent page fails with error message of "editconflict" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52830  +comment (10Marius Hoch)
[06:20:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add tracking category to pages with errors in <math> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47037  +comment (10Richard Morris)
[06:51:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update Switzerland in the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52822  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[07:22:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Cannot click links or submit forms on special pages with an input box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53041  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:08:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Reconstructed tool not accessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53088 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[08:11:04] <msd>	 Hi there, has anyone seen "Trying to clone an unclonable object..." errors when installing Mediawiki on a Zend Stack?
[08:14:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pull request: fix for not being able to install without mb_convert_encoding function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52632  +comment (10hwguy.siplus)
[08:14:31] <MaxSem>	 msd, it's not in bugzilla, so no
[08:15:49] <MaxSem>	 msd, any details?
[08:17:05] <msd>	 I basically copied a whole installation of 1.16 from a WAMPP setup into ZEND, i.e. the MW folder and also the DB binaries
[08:17:50] <msd>	 I was expecting to get some error regarding the DB since the user was not set up in mysql but just received an HTTP 500 
[08:18:22] <msd>	 Looking at the Zend phperror.log I found this cloning issue
[08:20:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Setting $wgCopyUploadsFromSpecialUpload = true does not trigger duplicate filename detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52978  +comment (10aklapper)
[08:21:41] <msd>	 The full error is: "Trying to clone an uncloneable object of class DBQueryError in ...\includes\Exception.php on line 346"
[08:32:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) When Wikidata knows only one article, there should be no prompt to add another Wikipedia link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47911  +comment (10Gerard Meijssen)
[08:36:13] <MaxSem>	 lol
[08:36:48] <MaxSem>	 msd, 1.16 is long past unsupported, we don't recommend to use it for security reasons
[08:37:41] <msd>	 I know, but before upgrading to 1.19 (Zend server is running PHP 5.2.17) I wanted to get it running on the Zend
[08:37:58] <tale>	 msd: Why not upgrade to 1.21?
[08:38:13] <msd>	 Because of the PHP version
[08:38:53] <msd>	 I can't upgrade it because another application that uses the Zend relies on 5.2
[08:40:06] <msd>	 May it's easier to set up another small VM and switch to 1.21 then trying to figure out and fix this cloning thingy
[08:42:02] <MaxSem>	 is it really a verbatim 1.16? I see function wfExceptionHandler( $e ) { on that line in REL1_16
[08:42:27] <msd>	 1.16.5
[08:47:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) the message diff-multi above comparison of several revisions has wrong directionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52321  (10Niklas Laxström)
[08:52:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) the message diff-multi above comparison of several revisions has wrong directionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52321  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:09:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Hiding file upload log entry should also hide the contents of the "Summary" box on file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36497  +comment (10Pierre-Selim)
[09:11:09] <petan>	 How do I make wiki open external url in a new tab
[09:13:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10mr.heat)
[09:27:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Cannot click links or submit forms on special pages with an input box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53041  +comment (10Aude)
[09:33:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Gerrit-Bugzilla bot re-opens bugs when patch is made for branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53084  (10christian)
[09:44:26] <Snowman25>	 Hey! Is there any way to calculate a value WITHOUT ParserFunctions?
[09:47:30] <ori-l>	 Snowman25: scribunto/lua
[09:48:01] <Snowman25>	 I can't add any Extensions, so I'd need native support
[09:49:54] <Snowman25>	 Parser function hooks as of Special:Version: https://dpaste.de/swMXL/
[09:51:51] <Snowman25>	 I appreciate the help, ori-l 
[09:54:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Spelling error in Chechen wikipedia title space: Декъашхон дийцаре should be Декъашхочун дийцаре - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51783  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:55:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile rendering improperly omits space after reference and before wikilink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53086  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[09:56:51] <lfschenone>	 hi all
[09:57:07] <lfschenone>	 any tutorial on how to query the database from within an extension ?
[09:57:31] <lfschenone>	 say i wanted to select all users with a given email
[09:58:01] <lfschenone>	 any tutorial or extension that does something similar and could help me get it right ?
[09:58:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set Interwiki order from Wikidata's wmgWikibaseClientSettings to alphabetic for Ilokano Wikipedia (ilo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46245  -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10This, that and the other)
[09:59:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Spelling error in Chechen wikipedia title space: Декъашхон дийцаре should be Декъашхочун дийцаре - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51783  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:59:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set Interwiki order from Wikidata's wmgWikibaseClientSettings to alphabetic for Ilokano Wikipedia (ilo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46245  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:59:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set Interwiki order from Wikidata's wmgWikibaseClientSettings to alphabetic for Ilokano Wikipedia (ilo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46245  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[10:00:16] <Snowman25>	 Soo... no possibility to calculate something in MediaWiki without lua, scribunto and ParserFunctions?
[10:00:30] <Snowman25>	 It's not possible to use the PHP-backend, is it?
[10:02:18] <ori-l>	 it is, but you can't add any extensions, so I assumed you don't have access to modify the code
[10:02:22] <ori-l>	 what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:08:51] <Snowman25>	 I have User-Access. I want to set the width of an element through a Template-Paramter. But because I lack ParserFunctions I can't use #if or #expr.
[10:09:09] <lfschenone>	 found it, nvm
[10:09:15] <Snowman25>	 There are also other occurances, where being able to calculate something would be nice.
[10:10:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10ori)
[10:15:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[10:15:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[10:24:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Bugzilla should have a nice logo that is in keeping with the rest of our logo suite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49460  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:29:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Build a hooking infrastructure for e.g. Flickr and YouTube integration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53046  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:43:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Cameroon in French to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52030  +comment (10GuillaumeG)
[10:47:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: when "section editing", re-focus on that section after saving the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53089 enhancement; VisualEditor: General; ()
[10:50:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) No forcehttps cookies for sister projects on AutoLogin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53085  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:00:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Hieroglyphics editor is stuffed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53090 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[11:00:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit Hieroglyphics blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43118  (10This, that and the other)
[11:11:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Duplicated values/results in queries (1.9-alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48707  +comment (10leo_wallentin)
[11:27:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  (10Andre Klapper)
[11:27:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add component for PronunciationRecording MediaWiki extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53074  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[11:32:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Duplicated values/results in queries (1.9-alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48707  +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1)
[11:45:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Duplicated values/results in queries (1.9-alpha) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48707  +comment (10leo_wallentin)
[11:50:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Use $ instead of $j everywhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53066  (10Mark Holmquist)
[11:55:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Spelling error in Chechen wikipedia title space: Декъашхон дийцаре should be Декъашхочун дийцаре - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51783  +comment (10Nemo)
[12:06:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) database query syntax error on course history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50740  +comment (10aklapper)
[12:06:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:07:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in SpecialUpload.php on line 686 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53065  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:08:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) @link plugin for wm-bot to be able to create wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53091 enhancement; Tools: WM-Bot; ()
[12:09:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ERR_READ_TIMEOUT Error shown in editing pages on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52865  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:09:08] <sumanah>	 hi mooey 
[12:10:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) adding certain entities should not cause an edit conflict - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52199  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:13:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Error when use shortcuts on Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52911  normal->minor; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:13:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter: data-sort-type="isoDate" does not work for dates in the format YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SSZ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52842  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:13:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Vowel/Tone Marker problem in Thai (Firefox) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52257  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:14:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) make safe for phpunit dies with fatal error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52229  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:14:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967  major->04CRIT (10Technical 13)
[12:14:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) parser tests should die, when test printed something - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52274  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) phpunit.php --help shows generic maintenance options but no help for the phpunit options. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52099  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:15:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) @link plugin for wm-bot to be able to create wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53091  (10Technical 13)
[12:15:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967  +comment (10yuvipanda)
[12:17:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Preference to detect/specify low bandwidth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52626  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[12:18:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) requesting large media files takes a long time (+60 seconds) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52854   +performance (10Andre Klapper)
[12:18:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) tr.wikiMedia.org redirects to tr.m.wikiPedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52837  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:18:33] <CosmicLogick>	 is there an extension/s where i can divide a wiki into sub-wiki's, manage the those sub-wiki's, and configure access to each separately?
[12:18:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Other text on page disappears after mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52895  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:19:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) wayback machine can display user login page if the link is clicked from an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52946  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:19:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please upload 3 video files > 500MB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52926  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:19:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install GettingStarted on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52973  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[12:19:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Vowel/Tone Marker problem in Thai (Firefox) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52257  +comment (10KaewWiki)
[12:20:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Newly-uploaded image doesn't immediately appear in image search results in VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52782  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[12:20:58] <sumanah>	 hi CosmicLogick! I think you want a wiki farm
[12:21:00] <sumanah>	 !wikifarm
[12:21:00] <wm-bot>	 To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family>
[12:21:29] <CosmicLogick>	 thank you sumanah 
[12:21:40] <sumanah>	 Glad to help CosmicLogick 
[12:22:29] <T13>	 YuviPanda: Get to work on Bugzilla ticket 52967!
[12:22:47] <kakaskin>	 hi!
[12:22:57] <T13>	 Hi.
[12:23:02] <YuviPanda>	 T13: hmm?
[12:23:18] <T13>	 !b 52967
[12:23:18] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967
[12:23:22] <T13>	 :p
[12:23:35] <YuviPanda>	 T13: yeah, too bad I never commented on it, gave any indication of doing anything about it, or even caring about it :P
[12:23:36] <Revi>	 lol
[12:23:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Other text on page disappears after mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52895  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[12:23:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) APIEditBeforeSave isn't replacing sections like the documentation claims - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52077  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[12:24:20] <kakaskin>	 I have two categories 'Applied Mathematics' and 'Computer Science'. I want to create two '1 term' categories (first goes to 'AM', second goes to 'CS'). how can I do that?
[12:24:22] <T13>	 "Barring major issues propping up in testing, I'll do a release later tonight (~6-8 hours)" <=== milking the goat?  ~6-8 hours?  :p  j/k
[12:24:23] <sumanah>	 T13: more seriously; can you elaborate on your request? Why are you making this request of Yuvi in particular?
[12:24:39] <T13>	 sumanah: replying to his comment on bugzilla.
[12:24:41] <T13>	 ;)
[12:24:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967  (10Andre Klapper)
[12:24:52] <Revi>	 Agree with T13
[12:25:26] <Revi>	 lol
[12:25:29] <Revi>	 changed again
[12:25:39] <sumanah>	 oh. so YuviPanda were you being super sarcastic?
[12:25:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:25:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Featured and good article badges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40810  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[12:25:46] <YuviPanda>	 sumanah: yup :P
[12:25:59] <YuviPanda>	 sumanah: considering I *just* commented on that bug a few seconds before T13 pinged me here.
[12:26:11] <sumanah>	 YuviPanda: ah. I of course took you literally
[12:26:22] <YuviPanda>	 :) IRC does sarcasm poorly
[12:26:26] <sumanah>	 Yeah.
[12:26:31] <Revi>	 In fact T13 told me to ping you too
[12:26:33] <T13>	 Silly sumanah... :p  When is YuviPanda ever do "literal"?  :p
[12:26:38] <sumanah>	 T13: Most of the time.
[12:26:43] <Revi>	 (you: YuviPanda)
[12:26:51] <sumanah>	 In fact, nearly all of us do literal most of the time.
[12:26:57] <sumanah>	 Sarcasm is a crappy UI
[12:27:09] <T13>	 Are you being sarcastic? XD
[12:27:19] <sumanah>	 kakaskin: you can simply create categories and only put 1 thing each in them, on your local wiki
[12:27:31] * T13  wanders off before they put him back in the white jacket...

[12:27:51] <sumanah>	 kakaskin: are you trying to ensure that those categories only ever have 1 page each in them?
[12:28:01] <kakaskin>	 '1 term' is a subcategory
[12:28:42] <sumanah>	 kakaskin: ok. Do you know how to make one category a subcategory of another?
[12:29:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Newly-uploaded image doesn't immediately appear in image search results in VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52782  +comment (10neverett+bugzilla)
[12:29:33] <kakaskin>	 yes. but I will have to categories with one name?
[12:29:36] <kakaskin>	 will I
[12:30:33] <sumanah>	 I'm sorry, kakaskin, could you please say that again with different clearer words? I have a hard time understanding you. :)
[12:32:14] <kakaskin>	 ok. Applied Mathematics (category) -> 1 term (category) -> articles. Computer Science (category) -> 1 term (category) -> articles. 1 term categories in Applied Mathematics and Computer Science should be different
[12:32:40] <sumanah>	 aha, I see! you want for there to be a specific category called "One term"
[12:33:01] <kakaskin>	 two categories 'first term'
[12:33:02] <sumanah>	 or rather, two or more specific categories called "one term"
[12:33:26] <sumanah>	 oh, "first term", as in, the first semester of a course?
[12:33:32] <kakaskin>	 yes. but I can`t, for example, use an intersection of category 'Applied Maths' and '1 term'
[12:33:33] <kakaskin>	 yes
[12:34:03] <sumanah>	 kakaskin: I believe that within MediaWiki you cannot have multiple separate categories that have the same exact name.
[12:34:23] <sumanah>	 However you could name them something like "First term of CS" or "First term of AM", right?
[12:35:33] <kakaskin>	 yes.
[12:36:07] <kakaskin>	 'Applied Maths/1 term'
[12:36:09] <kakaskin>	 thanks
[12:36:18] <sumanah>	 Watch out for slash marks, kakaskin 
[12:36:25] <sumanah>	 they are meaningful in MediaWiki
[12:38:16] <ashley>	 at least with the proper http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages configuration (in the default configuration, subpages are *not* enabled for the main namespace)
[12:38:26] * ashley  waves at sumanah & the channel

[12:38:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Make right-click, middle click and CTRL+click work on [[Special:Nearby]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53092 normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; ()
[12:39:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Jordan in Arabic to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49050  +comment (10Abbad)
[12:39:27] <sumanah>	 hi ashley!
[12:40:50] <T13|needsCoffee>	 kakaskin: page/category names aren't in a tree structure.  / doesn't really create a "sub-category".   
[12:42:30] * T13|needsCoffee  starts to wonder if there is an extension that does simulate that structure better/accurately...

[12:43:05] * T13|needsCoffee  knows he could create a JavaScript to simulate that...

[12:43:33] <T13|needsCoffee>	 Hrrnmmm...  I think I will add that to my todo list.
[12:44:14] <T13|needsCoffee>	 Anyone here know if symantec extensions do that at all?
[12:47:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Reconstructed tool not accessible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53088  +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier)
[13:18:58] <Reedy>	 Technical_13: Semantic not Symantec!!
[13:19:02] <Reedy>	 There's a bit of difference
[13:19:06] <Reedy>	 !hss | Technical_13
[13:19:06] <wm-bot>	 Technical_13: ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl
[13:26:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) @link plugin for wm-bot to be able to create wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53091  +comment (10benapetr)
[13:27:17] <sumanah>	 guillom: hey, got a second to talk about the HTTPS rollout?
[13:28:57] <Amir1>	 talking about SSL. I made related changes in Pywikibot
[13:29:08] <Amir1>	 It hasn't been merged yet
[13:29:28] <Amir1>	 but please tell bot operator to update their codes (after merging)
[13:29:32] <sumanah>	 guillom: basically: I'm not clear on whether greg-g or I or you or someone else is going to work on the Global Message Delivery part of this, which really needs to happen today https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Spam
[13:29:40] <Amir1>	 sumanah: hi
[13:29:44] <sumanah>	 Amir1: just so you know, "codes" is not how we refer to software in international English
[13:30:13] <sumanah>	 we use "code" as a mass noun, like "fish" or "data"
[13:30:23] <Amir1>	 okay I didn't know
[13:30:33] <Amir1>	 what is better to say
[13:30:46] <Amir1>	 what's you suggestion
[13:30:50] <Amir1>	 *your
[13:31:04] <sumanah>	 Amir1: once your SSL-related change has been merged into pywikipediabot, you could email wikitech-ambassadors and add a note to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News to ask people to update 
[13:31:34] <sumanah>	 Amir1: I would rewrite your sentence as "after it's merged, please tell bot operators to update their installations of pywikipediabot"
[13:31:50] <Amir1>	 I hope you say it in the GMD message
[13:32:03] <guillom>	 sumanah: Sorry, I was afk for a minute
[13:32:03] <sumanah>	 but if you really want to use "code" then I would say ".... tell them to update their code"
[13:32:37] <Amir1>	 sumanah: of course I don't have preference about the word "code" I'm not native
[13:32:48] <sumanah>	 ok
[13:33:00] <Amir1>	 thank you for your help by the way
[13:33:58] <guillom>	 sumanah: So do you want me to send it? Is there already a message ready?
[13:34:26] <sumanah>	 guillom: The closest thing is the wikitech-ambassadors email, in my opinion
[13:34:43] <sumanah>	 guillom: the tricky thing is that I think we ought to send different messages to the VPs of wikis that will be affected differently
[13:35:37] <guillom>	 sumanah: Do you mean Farsi and Chinese projects, or others as well?
[13:35:53] <sumanah>	 guillom: if you can make the time today to coordinate with Greg to find out what those wikis are, write the messages, and send them, that would be great. Do you have that time?  If not then I will ask Greg or someone else to do it
[13:35:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Missing texvc executable on Portuguese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49442   +need-unittest; +comment (10Helder)
[13:36:09] <sumanah>	 guillom: The list of projects that will be affected differently is, I believe, longer than just those two :/
[13:36:42] * sumanah  looks at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Https

[13:37:14] <sumanah>	 "The list of language wikis that are exempted from this will be: all Farsi and Chinese language wikis (including Wikipedias, Wikisources, etc)."
[13:37:19] <Amir1>	 sumanah: the iran-related languages that has to be treated differently are listed here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52846
[13:37:25] <guillom>	 sumanah: I can work on it, but depending on how many different projects are affected in how many different ways, it may take more time than I have. I wish this had been been coordinated earlier.
[13:37:39] <guillom>	 sumanah: I'll ask greg-g when he's around and let you know.
[13:37:45] <helderwiki>	 Reedy: !bug 49442
[13:38:21] <sumanah>	 Amir1: you should email Greg Grossmeier, Ryan Lane, and Chris Steipp to ensure they see that whole list.
[13:39:58] <sumanah>	 guillom: I also wish this whole thing had been coordinated earlier and more smoothly. I believe there are only two different ways in which projects might be affected.  But I worry -- I am not sure whether we are going to add any languages beyond Chinese and Farsi, and I don't know when the cutoff for making that decision is. andre__ do you know?
[13:40:17] * sumanah  waits for greg-g to come into the office three timezones west of her

[13:40:45] * Lcawte  wonders if his old school will remove HTTPS bits.wikimedia.org from its proxy blocking :/

[13:40:59] <sumanah>	 guillom: It could be that all you need to do is point Greg to the documentation on Global Message Delivery and he'll take over. I hope that's what happens
[13:41:09] <Amir1>	 I put it in the [[m:HTTPS]] but OK
[13:41:20] <andre__>	 on mailing lists people pointed to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS
[13:41:24] * sumanah  heads off for a bit

[13:41:30] <andre__>	 but I'm not aware of any clear list of languages
[13:43:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: "Error: Unknown error" saving changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53093 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[13:50:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) @link plugin for wm-bot to be able to create wikilinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53091  +comment (10Technical_13)
[14:01:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; ()
[14:02:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094   +design (10Pavel Selitskas [wizardist])
[14:07:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Show title for Input method menu when a language without input methods available is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51025  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[14:08:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: messing up with tables? (class="wikitable") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53095 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:08:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Show title for Input method menu when a language without input methods available is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51025  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[14:09:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Show title for Input method menu when a language without input methods available is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51025  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:10:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Show title for Input method menu when a language without input methods available is used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51025  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[14:10:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Adding {{publish}} to article on zh.wikinews sometimes decreases total number of articles on Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51604  +comment (10waihorace)
[14:11:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: messing up with tables? (class="wikitable") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53095  +comment (10elitre82)
[14:11:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Error: Unknown error" saving changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53093  +comment (10elitre82)
[14:13:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "[edit | edit source]", ToC text, & "JS disabled" warning should not show up in search result excerpts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52906  +comment (10neverett+bugzilla)
[14:16:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Unable to merge code for Maps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52960  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[14:18:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) OAuth redirect to localhost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53096 normal; Analytics: Limn; ()
[14:20:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[14:26:05] <marktraceur>	 Rasel160: Good morning! How are things going?
[14:29:39] <Rasel160>	 marktraceur: good morning :) they are going good, i did what you said with the templates going through the processs of getting the templatedata added
[14:29:54] <marktraceur>	 Sweet
[14:30:14] <marktraceur>	 Rasel160: I'm thinking about merging the patch now, but I wanted to check with siebrand about the messages
[14:30:40] <marktraceur>	 Rasel160: There are a lot of them, and they're all just going to be around until we have the next patchset, so it seems silly to push them to TWN to be translated
[14:31:36] <Rasel160>	 marktraceur: i can remove them now if you would like
[14:32:09] <marktraceur>	 Rasel160: No, we need them for testing
[14:32:22] <marktraceur>	 But either we should mark them as "don't translate" or we should merge both patches at once
[14:33:23] <Rasel160>	 marktraceur: hoping the other patch will be done by today, its already in working order just need to fix a few things
[14:33:36] <marktraceur>	 Hm
[14:33:44] <marktraceur>	 OK, well, I'll take a look then
[14:34:20] <Rasel160>	 marktraceur: wait untill the next patchset which will be pushed in a few hours
[14:38:25] <marktraceur>	 Mmmmkay
[14:41:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) "[edit | edit source]", ToC text, & "JS disabled" warning should not show up in search result excerpts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52906  +comment (10Nik Everett)
[14:41:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Watchlist and recent changes should be able to show diffs inline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51958  +comment (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia)
[14:41:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Call to a member function getContent() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52907  (10Nik Everett)
[14:41:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[14:42:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Prefix search returns subpage ahead of main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52886  (10Nik Everett)
[14:43:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) CirrusSearch: When there isn't much data in the wiki result sorting can be wildly wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53039  (10Nik Everett)
[14:43:29] <qgil>	  dneary (~dneary@Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary) has joined #mediawiki  :)
[14:43:43] <dneary>	 hey qgil!
[14:43:52] <dneary>	 Do you still have the same cloak?
[14:43:57] <dneary>	 I don't know how to have it changed
[14:44:00] <qgil>	 Hi dneary - you are still wearing your Maemo IRC shirt  :)
[14:44:21] * marktraceur  hi5s dneary

[14:44:26] <marktraceur>	 (and qgil)
[14:44:29] <dneary>	 qgil, I never asked for it, and don't know who to talk to about getting it changed
[14:44:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[14:44:38] <qgil>	 dneary, no idea. But thank you for the good memories.
[14:44:52] <marktraceur>	 I spent a happy six months or so with a Maemo phone :)
[14:44:53] <dneary>	 :-)
[14:45:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search does not return files with search terms in metadata or filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52948  (10Nik Everett)
[14:45:22] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: but now you have a firefox phone!
[14:45:24] <qgil>	 marktraceur, I should give you my underused N900 - if you are interested
[14:45:26] <marktraceur>	 Exactly
[14:45:34] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: wait, that's my gift!
[14:45:39] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[14:45:46] <marktraceur>	 qgil: I might not mind that, but YuviPanda is right, I have a FFOS phone now
[14:45:53] <qgil>	 marktraceur, a Firefox phone??? I have been trying to buy one since they were annonced.
[14:46:01] <marktraceur>	 qgil: YuviPanda's got the hookups
[14:46:03] <YuviPanda>	 qgil: I had a spare one that I gifted him, since I wasn't using it :)
[14:46:21] <YuviPanda>	 sadly I don't have any other left :(
[14:46:25] <YuviPanda>	 sorry, qgil.
[14:46:33] <marktraceur>	 qgil: The USB micro port on my N900 actually fell out, it was hilarious
[14:46:52] <qgil>	 YuviPanda, no worries. Mozilla keeps saying that "in a few weeks" they will be available. Anyway, back to #mediawiki topic
[14:46:59] <YuviPanda>	 qgil:  :)
[14:47:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 enhancement; MediaWiki: Templates; ()
[14:47:11] <marktraceur>	 MediaWiki phone
[14:47:15] <marktraceur>	 MWOS
[14:47:19] <YuviPanda>	 write code in wikitext!
[14:47:23] <YuviPanda>	 templates, not apps!
[14:47:35] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: actually, running mediawiki on ffos would be interesting, since it already runs a webserver
[14:47:38] <YuviPanda>	 (I think?)
[14:47:39] <marktraceur>	 {{call|number=5557203}}
[14:47:40] <qgil>	 The GSM protocol anyone can edit
[14:47:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097  (10mheydari)
[14:47:58] <YuviPanda>	 Conversations licensed CC BY
[14:48:02] <marktraceur>	 {{call|number={{contact|name=YuviPanda}}}}
[14:48:07] <qgil>	 :D
[14:48:19] * Lcawte  would use a phone that you had to use wikitext for :P

[14:48:19] <marktraceur>	 SMWOS?
[14:48:20] <YuviPanda>	 {{call|number={{contact|name=YuviPanda}}|maybe=true}}
[14:48:28] <YuviPanda>	 !hss | marktraceur
[14:48:28] <wm-bot>	 marktraceur: ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl
[14:48:31] <marktraceur>	 Heh
[14:48:31] <Lcawte>	 [15:48:21] <marktraceur> SMWOS? <- No.
[14:48:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10richard)
[14:48:52] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: have you looked at tangle.js? I always thought that'd be nice to have in wiki
[14:48:56] <YuviPanda>	 (http://worrydream.com/#!/Tangle)
[14:48:59] <qgil>	 "Enjoy your phone calls with Echo!"
[14:49:11] <YuviPanda>	 good one, qgil :)
[14:49:37] <marktraceur>	 {{call|number={{#show: YuviPanda | ?cellphone}}}}
[14:50:01] <marktraceur>	 I guess you could make phone calls a parser function as well, that might be better
[14:50:07] <marktraceur>	 Or an extension tag
[14:50:16] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0usJCEUgWyM ;)
[14:50:18] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Not I haven't! I look now.
[14:50:29] <ashley>	 marktraceur: you have/had a Nokia N900? w00t \o/
[14:50:50] <qgil>	 {{#invoke:SMS}} (coming soon)
[14:51:24] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Oh my god that is so sexy
[14:51:38] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: indeed. 
[14:51:47] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: it's pretty old too
[14:51:55] <YuviPanda>	 but imagine that deployed onwiki :P
[14:52:08] <YuviPanda>	 (first response will be 'can I turn it off?' I think)
[14:52:26] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: For use per-article, or for use as an interface building assistant?
[14:52:32] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: inarticle
[14:53:58] <marktraceur>	 I dunno how you'd do that
[14:54:04] <marktraceur>	 Especially not securely
[14:54:18] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: hmm?
[14:54:20] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Actually I'm not sure how useful that is, but for *maybe* math articles
[14:54:23] <Elsie>	 Security is overrated.
[14:54:31] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: well, wikibooks, etc?
[14:54:32] <marktraceur>	 Elsie: Shut yo' mouth
[14:54:43] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: and how does security come in here? we'll wrap all those around with... something
[14:54:52] <marktraceur>	 Something, eh
[14:54:54] <marktraceur>	 Fun times
[14:55:05] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[14:55:18] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: I think allowing arbitrary JavaScript, or at least, potentially arbitrary JavaScript, is a bad plan
[14:55:50] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: You *could* take the wikidata-style approach, define properties and global ways they interact, or somehow add an extension tag that lets you define relationships
[14:55:51] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: hmm, that is true. we'll have to do sanitization ourself, which... isn't great.
[14:56:12] <marktraceur>	 But, I should go back to making UW suck less
[14:56:19] <marktraceur>	 If only slightly
[14:57:34] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: godspeed! :)
[14:58:25] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Dear sir/madam.
[14:58:33] * marktraceur  finally watched the video you linked

[14:58:37] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: :P
[14:58:51] <YuviPanda>	 would be fun with a mediawiki phone
[14:59:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) impossible to change the data type of a property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43643  +comment (10John F. Lewis)
[14:59:27] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Smart folks would just define a template {{!}} that's an emergency call
[14:59:39] <marktraceur>	 Though if we installed VE on the phone it might not be as easy
[14:59:39] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: it'll be different for different locations
[15:00:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Change [[MediaWiki:Watchlist-details]] as discussed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53098 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; ()
[15:00:22] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: But {{!}} wouldn't come with the phone - official policy of letting natural selection do its thing
[15:00:49] <YuviPanda>	 well, official policy of letting natural selection do its thing *for the phone*
[15:00:56] <YuviPanda>	 and hence it should come with {{!}
[15:00:57] <YuviPanda>	 }
[15:01:23] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: http://what-if.xkcd.com/59/ if you haven't seen :)
[15:01:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097  +comment (10mheydari)
[15:02:25] <marktraceur>	 Coooool
[15:03:19] <Micru>	 hi there! and neat stuff :)
[15:03:44] <Micru>	 I cannot wait to see talk pages becoming voicemail inboxes!
[15:03:53] <Micru>	 :D
[15:03:59] <Revi>	 YuviPanda: Can I know when the new version of Commons become updateable?
[15:04:11] <YuviPanda>	 Revi: the app? I'll push it out in a couple of hours
[15:04:24] <YuviPanda>	 waiting for people in the office to turn up since I want to do some collaborative testing
[15:04:29] <Revi>	 yep, app. Thanks!
[15:04:31] <marktraceur>	 Micru: Ohai there! Rasel160 and I just powwowwed briefly and it's likely that the first big patch will get merged in the next week or so, after I hear back from siebraond
[15:04:44] <qgil>	 sumanah, ping
[15:04:53] <sumanah>	 hi qgil 
[15:05:03] <YuviPanda>	 Revi: I'll poke you after I push it if you're online :)
[15:05:05] <qgil>	 sumanah, are you joining the meeting?
[15:05:08] <sumanah>	 I am in it
[15:05:09] <Revi>	 ok
[15:05:21] <Micru>	 marktraceur, cool! can i help with the testing?
[15:05:21] <Revi>	 I will be online for more than 2 hrs
[15:05:27] <qgil>	 sumanah, not in the one of the calendar invitation...
[15:05:33] <sumanah>	 weird
[15:05:36] <sumanah>	 I will leave & rejoin
[15:05:41] <qgil>	 sumanah, andre and chris are there as well
[15:05:54] <chrismcmahon>	 zeljkof: are you in the hangout?
[15:05:58] <marktraceur>	 Micru: Sure - it's not up anywhere now AFAIK, but when/if we merge it we might try to convince someone to enable it somewhere
[15:06:03] <marktraceur>	 e.g. betacommons
[15:06:15] <zeljkof>	 chrismcmahon: I am
[15:07:21] <Micru>	 marktraceur: ok, ok, I will be patient!
[15:07:25] <marktraceur>	 Heh
[15:07:42] <Micru>	 marktraceur: betacommons? Does that exist? :P
[15:07:47] <marktraceur>	 Yup
[15:07:52] <Micru>	 where?
[15:08:26] <marktraceur>	 My browser history says http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Version but I'm not so sure
[15:08:58] <YuviPanda>	 betacommons exists
[15:08:59] <marktraceur>	 http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page loads fine though
[15:09:07] <YuviPanda>	 Special:Version is notoriously slow
[15:09:09] <YuviPanda>	 on betalabs
[15:09:16] <YuviPanda>	 because of the way it reads versions (from git)
[15:09:17] <marktraceur>	 Yeah, that's messed up
[15:09:19] <marktraceur>	 Ahhh.
[15:09:25] <YuviPanda>	 on a shared file system
[15:09:25] <YuviPanda>	 so
[15:09:29] <marktraceur>	 Shouldn't we *cache* that shit?
[15:09:38] <YuviPanda>	 there might be a patch rotting somewhere for that
[15:09:40] <YuviPanda>	 I... think
[15:09:48] <Micru>	 it is *well* hidden, though
[15:10:00] <YuviPanda>	 Micru: betacommons?
[15:10:03] <YuviPanda>	 or the patch?
[15:10:03] <Micru>	 yes
[15:10:17] <marktraceur>	 *nod*
[15:10:17] <Micru>	 betacommons
[15:10:30] <marktraceur>	 Micru: We've used it mostly for staging updates to UW, and browsertesting them
[15:10:48] <YuviPanda>	 let me know if anyone wants any rights to test things on betalabs :P
[15:10:51] <marktraceur>	 But maybe chrismcmahon and zeljkof have been using it for other stuff and I'm just not even aware of all their amazingness
[15:11:01] <YuviPanda>	 it's trivial for anyone with access to grant people them, but I already have them at hand...
[15:11:03] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: We might bug you about enabling Rasel160's patch when it merges
[15:11:20] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: that's automatically done by a jenkins job
[15:11:22] <YuviPanda>	 when it gets merged :)
[15:11:31] <Micru>	 I guess it is ok to have it hidden from too curious eyes :)
[15:11:32] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: No, because I forced him to put it behind a new config variable
[15:11:35] <YuviPanda>	 aah
[15:11:44] <YuviPanda>	 oh you!
[15:11:46] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Because the patch is a good start, but we have multiple steps to do before it's ready
[15:11:52] <YuviPanda>	 right
[15:12:25] <chrismcmahon>	 marktraceur:  coolest thing we're doing on beta recently is running and testing the new CirrusSearch extension
[15:12:48] <marktraceur>	 *nod*
[15:15:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search does not return files with search terms in metadata or filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52948  +comment (10neverett+bugzilla)
[15:20:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search does not return files with search terms in metadata or filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52948  +comment (10neverett+bugzilla)
[15:28:49] <bawolff>	 Hi clancer,
[15:31:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: handle navboxes differently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53099 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:33:07] <clancer>	 bawolff: Hello!
[15:33:58] <bawolff>	 hi
[15:34:40] <bawolff>	 Hmm, Jan doesn't seem to be here yet
[15:37:04] <clancer>	 its ok i guess im pretty sleepy if he doesnt come i will email him
[15:43:05] <Jan_Luca>	 bawolff: Sorry
[15:43:21] <Jan_Luca>	 I have problems with a crash HDD so I forgot the time
[15:43:35] <bawolff>	 That's ok
[15:43:35] <Jan_Luca>	 *crashed HDD
[15:44:11] <Jan_Luca>	 bawolff: Which channel use we?
[15:44:47] <bawolff>	 How about ##gsoc-moodle-meeting
[15:45:44] <technomensch>	 Morning all, or afternoon, or evening, depending on your location
[15:45:59] <Elsie>	 Hi.
[15:46:00] <rickyb98>	 nearly evening here :P
[15:46:29] <rickyb98>	 Bawolff: xD
[15:46:57] <marktraceur>	 technomensch: TZAG - Time Zone Appropriate Greeting
[15:47:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Created too but not added to group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53100 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[15:47:40] <technomensch>	 I'm going to assume that this is probably not the place to be asking, but figured it would be a good enough place to start anyway.
[15:47:56] <technomensch>	 So I hope you'll indulge me...
[15:48:08] <rickyb98>	 okay :)
[15:48:09] <marktraceur>	 technomensch: Don't worry! We love pointing people to other places, and we love ignoring the stated topic. So either way you're good :)
[15:48:20] <rickyb98>	 exactly!
[15:48:34] <technomensch>	 Just as long as I don't get told to RTFM.....I'm great at reading, horrible at coding :P
[15:49:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Set up SPF/DKIM for tools.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53101 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[15:49:05] <rickyb98>	 so am I :)
[15:49:06] <Elsie>	 What's your question?
[15:49:36] <technomensch>	 I've been trying to implement SAML log-in and found the MultiAuthPlugin as probably the best solution.  However, it's outdated and looks abandoned
[15:49:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Created tool but not added to group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53100  summary (10MZMcBride)
[15:49:57] <technomensch>	 I *think* I've broken down the issue to poor handling of the Special:Login and Special:Logout pages
[15:50:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Created tool but not added to group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53100  +comment (10b)
[15:50:14] <technomensch>	 but because of the way they coded it
[15:50:21] <Elsie>	 Special:UserLogin and Special:UserLogout, likely.
[15:50:34] <technomensch>	 and made it so modular, I'm having issues interpretting exactly how to fix it
[15:51:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[15:52:05] <technomensch>	 It says it should work with 1.18, but looks like it was written for 1.15.  I'm on 1.21
[15:52:08] <bawolff>	 Hmm looks like someone broke the upload warnings on special:upload
[15:52:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Created too but not added to group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53100  summary; +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier)
[15:52:41] <Elsie>	 The "ignore warnings" checkbox is bad UI. 
[15:52:41] <rickyb98>	 who did?
[15:53:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Created tool but not added to group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53100  summary (10MZMcBride)
[15:54:06] <bawolff>	 Elsie: It is, but i mean the other warnings
[15:54:17] <bawolff>	 rickyb98: not sure. I'll investigate after my gsoc meeting
[15:54:34] <Elsie>	 bawolff: Warning: Goatse.
[15:54:34] <technomensch>	 Here's the Extension URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiAuthPlugin    I believe the issue is specifically with \special\login\SpecialLogin.setup.php and \special\logout\SepcialLoutout.setup.php
[15:54:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add China to the database in Chinese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52565  +comment (10romaine_wiki)
[15:55:11] <technomensch>	 Lines 38-60    *IF* I'm right
[15:55:12] <bawolff>	 Elsie: the ajax file already exists warning
[15:55:27] <rickyb98>	 which warning, then?
[15:56:16] <Elsie>	 bawolff: Lame.
[15:56:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make right-click, middle click and CTRL+click work on [[Special:Nearby]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53092  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[15:57:13] <technomensch>	 I'm willing to bet it may have something to do with missing $wgAutoLoadClasses and $wgSpcialPages    - I just don't know how to fix it.
[15:58:03] <technomensch>	 been RTFM the Manual:Special_pages to see if I could fix it on my own
[15:58:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set Interwiki order from Wikidata's wmgWikibaseClientSettings to alphabetic for Ilokano Wikipedia (ilo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46245  (10moidiple)
[15:58:15] <rickyb98>	 what is rtfm?
[15:58:21] <technomensch>	 but the dev who built it made it extremely modular
[15:58:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Section handling in Semantic Forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46662  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[15:58:36] <technomensch>	 seriously   rtfm = read the frakkin manual
[15:58:40] <Ulfr>	 rickyb98: Are you for real?
[15:59:02] <rickyb98>	 yes, i'm not english, don't know this kind of abbreviations xD
[15:59:09] <rickyb98>	 and i guess frakkin is not frakkin
[15:59:13] * rickyb98  understood ;)

[15:59:29] <technomensch>	 Ulfr, when English isn't someone's first language, we should let it slide.
[15:59:47] <rickyb98>	 technomensch, thanks :)
[15:59:52] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: That wasn't a "Are you serious?!?!" That was a are you seriously asking the question!
[15:59:57] * Ulfr  isn't a jerk unless provoked.

[16:00:07] <technomensch>	 LOL
[16:00:12] <rickyb98>	 don't worry Ulfr :)
[16:00:28] <rickyb98>	 i didn't take it like a "?!?!" :)
[16:00:44] <technomensch>	 so, anyway, do you think any of you might be able to help or recommend where I can post it OTHER than the discussion/talk back for the Extension?
[16:01:04] <technomensch>	 or offer some assistance/guidance?
[16:01:08] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: Mind giving me a cliff notes version of what's your problem?
[16:01:11] <rickyb98>	 didn't follow the discussion, if it's a bug, you could post it on bugzilla
[16:01:31] <rickyb98>	 or contact the dev
[16:02:25] <technomensch>	 Ulfr, guess you came in late.  Running 1.21. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiAuthPlugin    I believe the issue is specifically with \special\login\SpecialLogin.setup.php and \special\logout\SepcialLoutout.setup.php
[16:02:43] <technomensch>	 I'm willing to bet it may have something to do with missing $wgAutoLoadClasses and $wgSpcialPages    - I just don't know how to fix it.
[16:03:00] <technomensch>	 The extension looks abandond
[16:03:05] <rickyb98>	 technomensch, do you think it is just a problem of yours?
[16:03:06] <technomensch>	 abandoned
[16:03:14] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: You posted your discussion yesterday :P
[16:03:34] <technomensch>	 I know, but I also looked over their site
[16:03:37] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: Also it's rarely a good idea to venture down into the abyss of another mind's extension trying to bug hunt. Very disorienting experience
[16:04:26] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: Especially when the code is *really* old
[16:04:30] <technomensch>	 I agree completely, esp if MW core changes again.  However, I need to get SAMLAuth log in working.  The SAMLAuth ext looks horrible and doesn't appear to modify the log-in
[16:04:31] * rickyb98  agrees with Ulfr.

[16:04:57] <ashley>	 s/if MW core changes again/when MW core changes again/
[16:04:58] <bawolff>	 Especially if the code was written by third parties...
[16:05:04] <technomensch>	 I'm open to alternatives because I cannot find another Extension
[16:05:11] <Ulfr>	 ashley: Leaving well enough alone just isn't their style
[16:05:32] <bawolff>	 damn users keep wanting things
[16:05:33] <Ulfr>	 technomensch: shoot me a pm. I'm using the web client but I've got an idea that might simplify your problem
[16:05:34] <technomensch>	 Yea, I know the routine.  Been down this road before
[16:05:59] <technomensch>	 Ulft, I'm using the webclient too
[16:06:10] * Ulfr  doesn't want to admit he doesn't know how to pm :(

[16:06:15] <rickyb98>	 use /msg Ulfr
[16:06:17] <rickyb98>	 :D
[16:06:19] <rickyb98>	 np
[16:06:44] <ashley>	 nothing better than spending a day or two after an upgrade to troubleshoot various issues caused by strange core changes that mostly slipped past everyone's radars...
[16:06:52] <ashley>	 (been there, done that -- way too many times)
[16:07:16] <rickyb98>	 heh
[16:07:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid couldn't parse a wikitext table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53095  (10ssastry)
[16:07:34] <Ulfr>	 ashley: My personal favorite is using API documentation for calls that were updated in 1.21 when I'm running 1.19
[16:08:04] <ashley>	 great fun >.<
[16:08:28] <ashley>	 for me, this one probably takes the cake (at least so far...): https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49280
[16:08:47] <technomensch>	 Other than MultiAuthPlugin, any recommendations to get MW working with PingFederate?
[16:09:13] <rickyb98>	 no idea..
[16:09:14] <rickyb98>	 actually, no idea what it is..
[16:09:16] <rickyb98>	 xD
[16:09:24] <bawolff>	 !authplugin
[16:09:24] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin
[16:09:35] <bawolff>	 but that requires programming it yourself
[16:09:58] <technomensch>	 That's what MultiAuthPlugin is supposed to handle
[16:10:08] <parent5446>	 You should comment in support of the new AuthStack framework!
[16:10:10] <parent5446>	 :D
[16:10:11] <technomensch>	 someone did do the programming to handle AuthPlugin
[16:10:19] * parent5446  shamelessly self-inserts.

[16:10:26] <technomensch>	 but it's outdated and not working at the moment
[16:10:41] <technomensch>	 so I'm trying to fix it...unsuccessfully
[16:10:54] <bawolff>	 zOMG its a parent5446 on irc!!!
[16:11:05] <rickyb98>	 lol
[16:11:11] <Ulfr>	 a wild parent5446 appears!
[16:11:19] <rickyb98>	 what is that? pokemon?!
[16:11:19] <Ulfr>	 he uses shameless self promotion.
[16:11:22] <parent5446>	 XD
[16:11:24] <Ulfr>	 bawolff counters with sarcasm!
[16:11:29] <Ulfr>	 parent5446 faints
[16:11:47] <ashley>	 parent5446: ok, I'll bite: if/when your RfC passes, will you be converting MediaWikiAuth to use your new framework(s) since MWA uses AuthPlugin now?
[16:11:49] * apergos  pokes parent5446 carefully with a stick

[16:11:51] <technomensch>	 I guess i've got to try to hack this together on my own
[16:11:54] <apergos>	 a long one
[16:11:56] <bawolff>	 hey I was sincere. parent5446 is to productive, he should be on irc more so we can waste his time ;)
[16:11:58] <technomensch>	 thanks anyway
[16:11:59] <bawolff>	 *too
[16:12:18] <rickyb98>	 technomensch, np :)
[16:12:32] <Ulfr>	 bawolff: sorry, your sincerity appeared to be dripping with sarcasm
[16:12:39] <ashley>	 far too often new features are added to core with inadequate documentation, which ends up breaking extensions not deployed on WMF cluster (because hey, believe it or not, there's life outside the WMF world too)
[16:12:47] <Ulfr>	 ashley: Lies.
[16:13:15] <ashley>	 Ulfr: [citation needed]@your "lies"; I provided my citations a bit earlier ;)
[16:13:16] * bawolff  is sincere though in that he's happy to see parent5446 on irc. I like it when active developers hang out on irc. It makes communication easier

[16:13:34] <parent5446>	 I try to come by as often as possible. Classes just ended, so more free time.
[16:13:47] <rickyb98>	 yayy
[16:13:54] <apergos>	 ah hah
[16:14:05] <sumanah>	 hey there parent5446 
[16:14:06] <Ulfr>	 ashley: Listen man, I'm still fiddling with your Semantic Social Profile extension. I ain't got time to cite my sources of hyperbole
[16:14:17] <sumanah>	 parent5446: I have an unexpectedly free evening in case you want to grab dinner
[16:14:17] <ashley>	 !hss | Ulfr
[16:14:18] <wm-bot>	 Ulfr: ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl
[16:14:19] * apergos  considers moving up the meeting time to something awful for you and less in our evenings :-P

[16:14:26] <ashley>	 also, Semantic SocialProfile ain't mine ;)
[16:14:38] <rickyb98>	 there's also:
[16:14:38] <parent5446>	 sumanah: Thanks but tonight I'm hosting some guests. :(
[16:14:39] <rickyb98>	 !tss
[16:14:39] <wm-bot>	 ZOMG!! http://goo.gl/e2631 (join #semantic-mediawiki)
[16:14:44] <ashley>	 only SocialProfile & friends are (and I'm still not the original author of those)
[16:14:50] <Ulfr>	 *shrug* It's somebodies, and I'm twisting it to my own evil purposes
[16:14:55] <sumanah>	 parent5446: bleh! next week perhaps
[16:15:40] <parent5446>	 If you're free next week I'd love to. I don't have anything next week.
[16:16:02] <sumanah>	 parent5446: are you maybe even free during the day next week?
[16:16:23] <parent5446>	 sumanah: Yes. If anything I'm more free during the day.
[16:16:32] <sumanah>	 oh cool!
[16:17:42] <Ulfr>	 I need one of those hats from Hitchhikers guide that's powered by lemons so recursion stops tying up my brain.
[16:21:28] <Ulfr>	 or is recursion a bad word here like that other S word is
[16:22:00] <rickyb98>	 s-word?
[16:22:03] * rickyb98  is guessing....

[16:22:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set $wgArticleCountMethod = 'any' on zhwikinews and run updateArticleCount.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51604  summary; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:22:20] <Amir1>	 sumanah: e-mail sent :)
[16:22:20] <Amir1>	 about ssl
[16:22:31] <sumanah>	 thank you Amir1.
[16:22:33] <bawolff>	 rickyb98: semantic
[16:22:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set up SPF/DKIM for tools.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53101  +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier)
[16:22:40] <rickyb98>	 oooohh..
[16:22:47] <rickyb98>	 thought it was sh**..
[16:22:48] <bawolff>	 rickyb98: recursion is mostly ok
[16:22:48] <rickyb98>	 xD
[16:22:49] <sumanah>	 rickyb98: we're actually fine with the word "semantic"
[16:22:58] <bawolff>	 !hss | sumanah 
[16:22:58] <wm-bot>	 sumanah: ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl
[16:23:00] <bawolff>	 :P
[16:23:00] <sumanah>	 rickyb98: but we joke as though we are not.
[16:23:15] <rickyb98>	 wow
[16:23:23] <Ulfr>	 As soon as sumanah leaves the witch hunt begins.
[16:23:25] <rickyb98>	 !tss
[16:23:26] <wm-bot>	 ZOMG!! http://goo.gl/e2631 (join #semantic-mediawiki)
[16:23:30] <sumanah>	 rickyb98: And we sometimes use profanity in here, but it's not okay to insult or attack *other people*.
[16:23:56] <T13|playingDad>	 !sss 
[16:23:57] <rickyb98>	 sumanah, of course it is not..
[16:24:04] <T13|playingDad>	 ...
[16:24:05] <rickyb98>	 she said semantic?
[16:24:07] <rickyb98>	 lol
[16:24:10] <T13|playingDad>	 Yep
[16:24:11] <Ulfr>	 Unless you declare javascript arrays with new Array(). Then everyone makes fun of you. I'm sorry, I'll stop.
[16:24:14] <bawolff>	 We all say semantic
[16:24:14] <rickyb98>	 !iss
[16:24:14] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !allowoverride, !anglebrackets, !dismissablesitenotice, !domdocument, !filepermissions, !IE9, !list, !lists, !newusergroup, !packagefix, !phpinfo, !redlinks, !siwae, !tabcompletion, !templateproblems, !userapproval, 
[16:24:21] <T13|playingDad>	 !twss
[16:24:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid couldn't parse a wikitext table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53095  (10ssastry)
[16:24:38] <T13|playingDad>	 "That's What She Said"
[16:24:39] <rickyb98>	 T13|playingDad, can't get that :P
[16:24:45] <rickyb98>	 lol
[16:24:45] <sumanah>	 yeah, we don't play that game in here.
[16:24:52] <rickyb98>	 xD
[16:25:03] <rickyb98>	 guys, now my question..
[16:25:08] <T13|playingDad>	 sumanah: we just lost the game.
[16:25:08] <marktraceur>	 T13|playingDad: That's what *they* said
[16:25:10] <rickyb98>	 xD
[16:25:11] <sumanah>	 I always read "hss" as "hissssss" like a hissing snake
[16:25:20] <rickyb98>	 loll
[16:25:34] <rickyb98>	 i know this is not the best place to ask.. but..
[16:25:40] <marktraceur>	 sumanah: That's the sound of SMW creeping up behind you, ready to strike
[16:25:45] <Ulfr>	 An appopriate name for venturing into the lair of the yaron
[16:25:46] <rickyb98>	 does anyone in here needs a bot for the channel he created?
[16:25:58] <sumanah>	 rickyb98: most of us simply use the existing bots.
[16:25:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set up SPF/DKIM for tools.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53101  +comment (10b)
[16:26:01] <marktraceur>	 they*
[16:26:02] <T13|playingDad>	 Yes rickyb98 
[16:26:08] <rickyb98>	 i mean, not wm-bot
[16:26:09] <sumanah>	 !wm-bot
[16:26:10] <wm-bot>	 Hello, I'm wm-bot. The database for this channel is published at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/db/%23mediawiki.htm More about WM-Bot: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/wm-bot
[16:26:17] <marktraceur>	 rickyb98: What kind of bot is it?
[16:26:28] <sumanah>	 rickyb98: perhaps you have made a bot and you would like for more people to try it out?
[16:26:33] <rickyb98>	 it's an eggdrop, maybe someone here has created an high-trafficated channel
[16:26:40] <rickyb98>	 and needs a bot to control flood
[16:26:51] <T13|playingDad>	 And I need it to siphon money from the five richest governments and put it in my account in Switzerland...
[16:27:02] <Ulfr>	 T13|playingDad: SHH! We don't talk about that
[16:27:10] <rickyb98>	 lol
[16:27:21] <wm-bot>	 You are root identified by name .*@wikimedia/Technical-13
[16:27:30] <wm-bot>	 You are trusted identified by name .*@mediawiki/..*
[16:27:31] <marktraceur>	 rickyb98: Trafficked* but I don't know if anyone needs that, especially not here
[16:27:40] <T13|playingDad>	 rickyb98: ^^^ if I wanted wm-bot ....
[16:28:02] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: Can you think of anything more aggresive for presenting information than alert()?
[16:28:03] <rickyb98>	 understood, just asking..
[16:28:23] <T13|playingDad>	 @link bob
[16:28:28] <bawolff>	 ha I get to blame krenair ;)
[16:28:34] <T13|playingDad>	 Not pushed in yet...
[16:28:43] <rickyb98>	 what's @link?
[16:28:46] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: $( document.body ).html( /* a really big blink tag with alternating rainbow colours for the text */ )
[16:28:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User interface elements should not show up in CirrusSearch search result excerpts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52906  summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[16:29:13] <T13|playingDad>	 !b 53091
[16:29:13] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53091
[16:29:21] <T13|playingDad>	 rickyb98: ^^^
[16:29:22] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: Brilliant! Maybe that will remind my users that they have to be logged in to use my application. Apparently an alert window they can't make it past isn't blatant enough
[16:29:32] <marktraceur>	 Hah
[16:29:41] <rickyb98>	 lol
[16:29:41] <Krenair>	 bawolff, uh oh, what have I done now?
[16:29:46] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: That's *aggressive*, but you needn't use it
[16:30:00] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: The problem is you can't put a link into an alert
[16:30:06] <marktraceur>	 OR at least I don't think you can
[16:30:06] <bawolff>	 Krenair: I think there's a bug in your commit killing sajax out of upload.js
[16:30:18] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: I know, once they click okay it puts them on the login prompt.
[16:30:18] <Krenair>	 ugh
[16:30:22] <Krenair>	 how severe?
[16:30:32] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: And your problem is that they don't login after that?
[16:30:49] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: They're stymied. 20 bug reports of the same thing.
[16:30:59] <marktraceur>	 "What does 'login' mean?"
[16:31:11] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem here
[16:31:44] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: Is it the sort of thing you can add OpenID/Persona to?
[16:31:50] <bawolff>	 Krenair: It broke the upload warning, but I don't think anyone but me even noticed
[16:31:50] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: Oh, no.
[16:32:00] <Ulfr>	 I use window.location.replace() to bring them to Special:Login so they log onto my website.
[16:32:11] <Ulfr>	 They just don't understand why they should have to
[16:32:22] <Ulfr>	 and I was trying to make light of it before I commit myself
[16:32:22] <Krenair>	 bawolff, is there a bug open for this? has anyone come up with a fix or shall I deal with it asap?
[16:32:38] <bawolff>	 Krenair: Don't worry, I got it
[16:33:00] <Krenair>	 bawolff, okay, thanks and sorry :)
[16:33:15] <bawolff>	 no worries, you should see what my typos sometimes do
[16:33:38] <Krenair>	 lol it's a typo?
[16:33:45] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: What's the application?
[16:34:05] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: My quiz app which needs user information to store metrics. It's honest to goodness PEBKAC
[16:34:18] <marktraceur>	 *nod*
[16:34:20] <Ulfr>	 swear on all that's holy. I'm just joking around with it because it's really tragic
[16:34:32] <Ulfr>	 (11 of the 20 users that told me it was broken have names ending in MD)
[16:35:15] <bawolff>	 Krenair: yeah you're going to kick yourself for it
[16:36:32] <marktraceur>	 Ulfr: I don't think I can think of any names that end in MD. I think it might be hard to pronounce.
[16:37:09] <Ulfr>	 marktraceur: Eh, it's a mouthful. It's the kind of last name you find on a business card that's got all the pretentious acronyms on it
[16:37:15] <marktraceur>	 Unless they started writing it in West Virginia and it's a really long name
[16:37:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:37:32] <Krenair>	 bawolff: OBOE? extra comma which breaks some browsers?
[16:37:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[16:37:51] <bawolff>	 You used the variable name result twice in a function for different things
[16:37:52] <Krenair>	 ugh.
[16:37:59] <Ulfr>	 How the mighty have fallen
[16:38:11] * Ulfr  silently judges Krenair for making a mistake we mere mortals are prone to

[16:38:28] <Elsie>	 :-)
[16:38:31] <Krenair>	 I don't even know I got that code to work :/
[16:38:34] <Elsie>	 I had a plan for that bug.
[16:38:39] <Elsie>	 But I've now forgotten most of it.
[16:38:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:39:02] <Elsie>	 I think I was going to mark it as resolved and create two tracking bugs.
[16:39:25] <Ulfr>	 Elsie: Would they be named the same thing for symmetry?
[16:39:28] <ori-l>	 So one can lose a good idea by not writing it down, yet by losing it one can have it: it nourishes other asides it knows nothing of, would not recognize itself in, yet when the negotiations are terminated, speaks in the acts of that proginator and does recognize itself, is grateful for not having done so earlier.
[16:39:34] * Ulfr  squelches himself.

[16:40:02] * Elsie  gets the mop.

[16:40:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) database query syntax error on course history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50740  +comment (10ragesoss)
[16:41:11] * sumanah  appreciates ori-l's eloquence

[16:41:14] <Krenair>	 bawolff, merged to master. 1.22wmf13 needs a shell user
[16:41:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[16:41:38] <ori-l>	 sumanah: not me; john ashbery :P
[16:42:41] <bawolff>	 yeah, I guess I'll ping greg-g about it and ask
[16:43:21] <bawolff>	 I think he's in a meeting right now though
[16:43:25] <sumanah>	 he is.
[16:43:26] <sumanah>	 with me
[16:44:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:44:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Samsung browser fails the blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51274  (10James Forrester)
[16:44:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Browser blacklist issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50781  (10James Forrester)
[16:44:42] <bawolff>	 sumanah: I figured. I can see his desk from here, and he's not in it :)
[16:45:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set up SPF/DKIM for tools.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53101  +comment (10marc)
[16:50:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MobileFrontend images shown double-sized in Retina desktop, iOS 7 beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49440  +comment (10peterwhy)
[16:52:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[16:52:54] <greg-g>	 bawolff: what's up?
[16:53:19] <bawolff>	 greg-g: There's a patch that should get back ported to wmf13
[16:53:26] <greg-g>	 link me?
[16:53:37] <bawolff>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80043 
[16:53:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:53:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[16:54:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  (10James Forrester)
[16:57:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10p.selitskas)
[16:57:35] <parent5446>	  /quit Switching clients.
[16:59:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update html5 package from upstream. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47323  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:59:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Update html5 package from upstream. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47323  (10Arlo Breault)
[17:00:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Set up SPF/DKIM for tools.wmflabs.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53101  +comment (10tim)
[17:02:50] <greg-g>	 bawolff: so this is causing an issue on wmf13 sites right now?
[17:05:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) wayback machine can display user login page if the link is clicked from an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52946  (10jeffluo35)
[17:14:11] <Frakir>	 '&section=new&summary=new' has no effect here : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:PastilleBot/test2
[17:19:56] <Ulfr_>	 God bless whoever created LiquidThreads
[17:20:10] <apergos>	 tell werdna that
[17:20:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Flipped "Go back" text on RTL interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53102 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[17:20:22] <apergos>	 not here now though
[17:20:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) API: revision deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23005  (10Brad Jorsch)
[17:20:41] <Ulfr_>	 apergos: Probably for the best. Just saved me so much time and effort I may not be able to help myself from leg humping in gratitude
[17:20:48] <apergos>	 :-D
[17:20:50] <Lcawte>	 Ulfr_: I strongly disagree :P
[17:20:59] <apergos>	 it's not your effort, it's Ulfr_'s
[17:21:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Flipped "Go back" text on RTL interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53102  +comment (10OsamaK.WFM)
[17:21:06] <apergos>	 :-P
[17:21:19] <apergos>	 also I need to stop typing and go eat dinner. tah!
[17:21:36] <Ulfr_>	 Lcawte: Is it you who saved me so much work it's not even funny?
[17:22:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inserting an existing reference in the first paragraph in Firefox puts it at the start of the paragraph, not where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:22:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inserting an existing reference in the first paragraph in Firefox puts it at the start of the paragraph, not where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[17:24:16] <Krenair>	 Ulfr_, don't let enwiki hear you saying that :D
[17:24:44] <Ulfr_>	 Krenair: Why? >>;
[17:24:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inserting an existing reference in the first paragraph in Firefox puts it at the start of the paragraph, not where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:25:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inserting an existing reference in the first paragraph in Firefox puts it at the start of the paragraph, not where the cursor is - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52159  +comment (10James Forrester)
[17:25:39] <Krenair>	 *shrugs* apparently they don't like it much
[17:25:51] <Krenair>	 it does have a lot of issues
[17:26:23] <Lcawte>	 I prefer my threads to be in a different state of matter :P
[17:26:54] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[17:27:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Pages that 404 have a last modified stamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53104 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[17:27:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Some tables lack unique or primary keys, may allow confusing duplicate data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15441  +comment (10domas.mituzas)
[17:29:01] <Ulfr_>	 Lcawte: Honestly? I think this part of the project is stupid. If I can make it go away by installing three extensions and running update.php I am the happiest camper
[17:29:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Some tables lack unique or primary keys, may allow confusing duplicate data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15441  +comment (10tylerromeo)
[17:29:24] <Ulfr_>	 Apparently there needs to be feedback about certain pages related to my application and the Talk: Page is impossible to find and use
[17:29:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10csteipp)
[17:30:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Line height on beta warning message too narrow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53045  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:30:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Build a hooking infrastructure for e.g. Flickr and YouTube integration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53046  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[17:36:19] <Ulfr_>	 Hooboy. I ran update and forgot to tell it to skip purge.
[17:38:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Some tables lack unique or primary keys, may allow confusing duplicate data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15441  +comment (10domas.mituzas)
[17:40:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Hiding file upload log entry should also hide the contents of the "Summary" box on file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36497  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[17:40:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Hiding file upload log entry should also hide the contents of the "Summary" box on file pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36497   +schema-change (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[17:43:36] <Ulfr_>	 Squid cache don't fail me now.
[17:43:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove "cols" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:43:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove "cols" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[17:46:52] <Rahul21>	 marktraceur: hello, I added the dependency in my PronunciationRecording.php and when I create and object of the ApiUploadHandler It directly jumps into the catch block https://dpaste.de/vwwde/
[17:47:22] <Ulfr_>	 TrevorParscal: You're a mad genius.
[17:47:23] <marktraceur>	 Rahul21: Well, tell me what the error is
[17:47:45] <marktraceur>	 Put a console.log( e ) in there or something
[17:48:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Install VE August update on hewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52552  +comment (10enn89)
[17:49:23] <Rahul21>	 I dont get an error in the console marktraceur
[17:51:44] <Rahul21>	 marktraceur: After the object declaration it directly jumps into the catch clause 
[17:52:13] <Rahul21>	 marktraceur: I am sure there is something wrong in "var uploadPronunciation = new mw.ApiUploadHandler( );"
[17:52:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Line height on beta warning message is too narrow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53045  summary (10James Forrester)
[17:54:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Cannot view old revisions of article on mobile (redirects to diff) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49029  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:54:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Cannot view old revisions of article on mobile (redirects to diff) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49029  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[17:54:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should adapt to case-insensitive host file systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52925  +comment (10mah)
[17:56:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Cannot view old revisions of article on mobile (redirects to diff) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49029  15enhancement->normal (10Max Semenik)
[17:56:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) api module wbsetclaim doesn't accept the bot param - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50933  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:58:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: handle navboxes differently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53099  +comment (10Richard Morris)
[17:59:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) about=null entries on <figure> elements (because of dom-fragment reuse) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53071  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:02:06] <Ulfr_>	 Lcawte: What threading extension would you recommend?
[18:02:24] <Nikerabbit>	 none :(
[18:02:49] <Ulfr_>	 Nikerabbit: My users are handicapable, they need structure :(
[18:03:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  +comment (10brion)
[18:03:57] <Rahul21>	 marktraceur: Ping me back when free :)
[18:03:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Make the extension function completely independently from the schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53105 normal; MediaWiki extensions: BookManagerv2; ()
[18:04:13] <Ulfr_>	 We're talking couldn't comprehend an alert box that said "You must log in", and upon clicking okay they're forced onto Special:Login before being returned to my app.
[18:04:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make the extension function completely independently from the schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53105  (10Molly White)
[18:04:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create basic tool for reading books(group of pages) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50386  (10Molly White)
[18:04:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Create an tool for edit books(group of pages) that reduces the learning curve - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51239  (10Molly White)
[18:04:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:08:05] <Ulfr_>	 Man doesn't like peas.
[18:13:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:14:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10jforrester)
[18:15:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  summary (10James Forrester)
[18:15:56] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  +comment (10OsamaK.WFM)
[18:16:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Thumbnail keywords must be in the wiki's language - rtl localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51852  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:16:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Thumbnail keywords must be in the wiki's language - rtl localization i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51852  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:17:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:17:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Image options should be serialized in the wiki's language in rtl locales - localization i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51852  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[18:22:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  +comment (10brion)
[18:23:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:23:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) assert api param not recognized by Wikibase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53106 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[18:23:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Enable CC-BY-SA 3.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52967  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[18:23:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  +comment (10jrobson)
[18:24:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Re-examine default setting of $wgMFAnonymousEditing in MobileFrontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53076  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[18:24:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Re-examine user experience of anonymous users who have been disabled from editing anonymously - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53073  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[18:27:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) WikitextContentHandler is making redirect content to sectioned title incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50450  (10Umherirrender)
[18:28:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Tweak language of "You must be logged in to edit pages on mobile" message in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53107 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[18:28:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tweak language of "You must be logged in to edit pages on mobile" message in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53107  normal->15enhancement (10Jon)
[18:30:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tweak language of "You must be logged in to edit pages on mobile" message in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52442  +comment (10Jon)
[18:30:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tweak language of "You must be logged in to edit pages on mobile" message in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53107  +comment (10Jon)
[18:31:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 'Desktop' link requires cookies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51277  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Jon)
[18:36:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile rendering improperly omits space after reference and before wikilink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53086  +comment (10jrobson)
[18:38:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Full version of "old" image not purged from varnish cache when file deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51064  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:38:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link inspector should preview the linked page (� la Navigation Popups) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50593  summary; +comment (10James Forrester)
[18:40:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialogs should not display below visible page area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52526  summary (10James Forrester)
[18:42:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Search does not return files with search terms in metadata or filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52948  +comment (10Nik Everett)
[18:49:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Please upload 3 video files > 500MB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52926  +comment (10pete.public.email)
[18:49:27] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) WikitextContentHandler is making redirect content to category pages incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50451  (10Umherirrender)
[18:50:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) {{SUBJECTSPACE}} should not convert spaces to underscores - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46742  (10Umherirrender)
[18:53:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:MergeAccount: Present merged accounts in separate confirmation box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41399  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:56:13] <ekristen>	 need help -- http://pastebin.com/3Qx780up 
[18:56:21] <ekristen>	 debug shows NO problems
[18:56:37] <ekristen>	 but when I click upload 
[18:56:41] <ekristen>	 I get this error -- Could not rename file "/tmp/phpkelxCg" to "public/2/25/Screen_Shot_2013-08-15_at_11.41.17_AM.png". 
[18:56:51] <ekristen>	 the file does exist at the destination though!
[18:57:10] <bawolff>	 usually that's a permission issue
[18:58:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) database query syntax error on course history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50740  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:58:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) database query syntax error on course history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50740  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[18:59:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Featured photos don't cross-fade on iOS 7 beta 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53108 normal; Commons App: iOS (iPhone or iPad); ()
[19:00:33] <ekristen>	 bawolff: the file is there though
[19:00:36] <ekristen>	 and whats more weird
[19:00:45] <ekristen>	 is the file is being uploaded with 0600 permissions not 0644
[19:01:03] <bawolff>	 The file exists at public/2/25/Screen_Shot_2013-08-15_at_11.41.17_AM.png ?
[19:02:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Featured photos don't cross-fade on iOS 7 beta 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53108  +comment (10brion)
[19:02:12] <ekristen>	 bawolff: yes!
[19:02:18] <ekristen>	 that is what is driving me nuts
[19:02:20] <bawolff>	 hmm, that is odd
[19:03:07] <bawolff>	 ekristen: is that your entire debug log
[19:03:20] <ekristen>	 I removed a few variables, but nothing important
[19:03:47] <ekristen>	 bawolff: so I just switched out renamed for move_uploaded_file
[19:03:48] <rickyb98>	 bwaolff: question, do you work with greg-g? that's strange!
[19:03:51] <ekristen>	 and everything works as expected
[19:03:56] <ekristen>	 rename*
[19:04:14] <bawolff>	 rickyb98: I'm in the San francisco office for this week only
[19:04:24] <rickyb98>	 ohh..
[19:04:32] <bawolff>	 normally I'm in halifax
[19:04:39] <rickyb98>	 understood...
[19:04:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SpecialContributions: Add rev_id to SQL ORDER BY clause (ORDER BY rev_timestamp, rev_id) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48880  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:04:54] <rickyb98>	 and how did you meet? did you already know each other?
[19:05:04] <rickyb98>	 just curiosity :)
[19:11:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Use data.* instead of manual JSON attribute loading / saving throughout the DOM postprocessor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53109 normal; Parsoid: DOM; ()
[19:11:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Use data.* instead of manual JSON attribute loading / saving throughout the DOM postprocessor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53109  normal->15enhancement;  +easy (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:11:58] <greg-g>	 rickyb98: why is bawolff working with me strange? :)
[19:12:16] <rickyb98>	 i mean..
[19:12:26] * bawolff  is a lone wolf who doesn't interact with the other humans

[19:12:42] <rickyb98>	 did you already know each other? otherwise, the fact you work in the same office causally is strange
[19:12:43] <bawolff>	 rickyb98: We're both employed by the wikimedia foundation
[19:12:48] <rickyb98>	 don't know if you get what i mean
[19:12:49] <rickyb98>	 ohhhh
[19:12:51] <bawolff>	 I'm in Wikimedia's office
[19:12:53] <rickyb98>	 aaaahh
[19:12:55] <rickyb98>	 uuuuh
[19:13:00] <rickyb98>	 gotcha everything
[19:13:03] <rickyb98>	 :D
[19:13:04] <rickyb98>	 :P
[19:13:06] <bawolff>	 well, I'm just a temporary contractor
[19:13:25] <rickyb98>	 so, wikimedia is your job
[19:13:34] <rickyb98>	 understood
[19:14:01] <ekristen>	 bawolff: changing the function to move_uploaded_file from rename fixes the problem (btw this is mediawiki 1.16
[19:14:09] <rickyb98>	 are there such jobs in Italy, too?
[19:14:17] <rickyb98>	 i mean, a job for the wikimedia foundation?
[19:14:32] <bawolff>	 Wikimedia hires several remote people, who work over the internet
[19:14:38] <marktraceur>	 !jobs
[19:14:39] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !jobqueue, 
[19:14:41] <marktraceur>	 Damn.
[19:14:50] <greg-g>	 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings
[19:15:33] <marktraceur>	 !jobs is The Wikimedia Foundation has open positions listed at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us#Wikimedia_Careers - consider applying and helping improve MediaWiki!
[19:15:34] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[19:15:40] <marktraceur>	 Or something.
[19:16:25] <rickyb98>	  <bawolff> Wikimedia hires several remote people, who work over the internet <<< but yours is an office, it is not remote, right?
[19:16:43] <marktraceur>	 He usually works from Halifax
[19:16:52] <bawolff>	 Well I'm visiting San francisco for this week. Normally I'm in my apartment
[19:17:03] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[Special:Tags]] is not properly sorted by number of tagged changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51742  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[19:17:10] <rickyb98>	 aaahh..
[19:17:12] <rickyb98>	 oohhh.
[19:17:16] <rickyb98>	 uuhhh.
[19:17:18] <rickyb98>	 understood
[19:17:19] <rickyb98>	 :D
[19:18:42] <marktraceur>	 That was a lot of thinking noise
[19:19:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:19:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:19:18] <rickyb98>	 exactly :)
[19:19:24] <rickyb98>	 sorry for my curiosity :))
[19:20:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[Special:Tags]] is not properly sorted by number of tagged changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51742  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:20:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [[Special:Tags]] is not properly sorted by number of tagged changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51742  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:21:32] <rickyb98>	 !jobqueue
[19:21:33] <wm-bot>	 The Job Queue is a way for mediawiki to run large update jobs in the background. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[19:25:31] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) User preference for enforcing HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29898  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:25:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove checkbox on userlogin to "Stay connected to HTTPS after login" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52283  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:29:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110 normal; Parsoid: DOM; ()
[19:30:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:32:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Japan needs to be added to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53004  +comment (10Maarten Dammers)
[19:33:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide a link to the JSON (view) page from the navbar dropdowns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52821  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:33:12] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide a link to the JSON (view) page from the navbar dropdowns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52821  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:34:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Japan needs to be added to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53004  +comment (10maarten)
[19:37:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  (10ssastry)
[19:37:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) wayback machine can display user login page if the link is clicked from an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52946  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:40:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Typing in Devanagari puts vowels in unexpected places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51477  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:40:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Typing in Devanagari puts vowels in unexpected places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51477  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:41:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: cursor places itself after the first character when inserting a group of Japanese characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52716  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: CE eats up syllables except a last syllable of a word in Korean IME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50631  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:41:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: CE eats up syllables except a last syllable of a word in Korean IME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50631  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VE does not support typing in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50346  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:41:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VE does not support typing in Kannada - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50346  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: IME shift+ function for adding diacritical marks in Arabic broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50105  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:41:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: IME shift+ function for adding diacritical marks in Arabic broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50105  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make sure all JS files have wrapper functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53067  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:41:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make sure all JS files have wrapper functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53067  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[19:41:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:42:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:42:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:42:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Flipped "Go back" text on RTL interfaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53102  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:42:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:42:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:42:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Mobile "Upload" button needs RTL adjustment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53103  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:42:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745  (10Andre Klapper)
[19:43:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) The width of tje two links in the bottom part of the flyout should be fluid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53111 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[19:43:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [MLEB] isBrowserSupported is not compatible with MW < 1.21 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52322  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[19:43:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Strange quote behaviour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[19:44:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid couldn't parse a wikitext table with stray }} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53095  summary (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:44:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Foster-parented transclusion content not encapsulated- causes dirty diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52945  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:44:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:46:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) SSL on the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53113 major; Wikimedia Labs: deployment-prep (beta); ()
[19:47:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Strange quote behaviour: " shown as &quot; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[19:47:39] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) The width of the two links in the bottom part of the flyout should be fluid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53111  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[19:50:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Strange quote behaviour: " shown as &quot; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112  (10bsitu)
[19:51:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SSL on the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53113  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[19:53:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) SSL on the Beta Cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53113  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[19:53:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) [OPS] beta: get SSL certificates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48501  +comment (10greg)
[19:57:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Dirty diff. reason unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51775  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:00:38] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 500 error when canceling Google OAuth authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52749  (10Diederik van Liere)
[20:03:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Dirty diff. reason unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51775  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[20:06:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Use mw.message instead of mw.msg or gM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52896  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:06:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Use mw.message instead of mw.msg or gM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52896  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[20:08:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 500 error when canceling Google OAuth authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52749  +comment (10Stefan Petrea)
[20:08:20] <ashley>	 marktraceur: ^why is mw.msg() considered non-ideal, out of curiosity?
[20:09:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Selser regression: pages with templates that generate tables and foster content out of the table are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52638  (10ssastry)
[20:09:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Removal of template when adding reference list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53114 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[20:10:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10CalakWiki)
[20:11:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10brion)
[20:12:04] <Sid-G>	 Hi. we have a gadget at hi-wp which uses the following line:
[20:12:05] <Sid-G>	 $.cookie('mw-numerakri-type', type, { expires: 30, path: '/' });
[20:12:05] <Sid-G>	 would it need modification for making the cookie secure?
[20:13:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Impossible to move pages ending in .js into userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53115 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[20:16:21] * Sid-G  waits for someone with js fu to answer

[20:18:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Preserve positional template parameters even if a nested template contains a '=' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52824  (10ssastry)
[20:19:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10esanders)
[20:19:33] <mtraceur>	 marktraceur: Huh, you're still online, but I can't reach the server you're on. Weird.
[20:21:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) PostEdit: Text unreadable in the Monobook Skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41404  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:21:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Cameroon in French to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52030  +comment (10maarten)
[20:21:41] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Templates that create multiple table cells don't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50589  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:22:13] <Riccardo>	 mtraceur and marktraceur, i guess it's the same person, right?
[20:22:27] <mtraceur>	 Riccardo: It is - I got kicked off my server for some reason
[20:22:34] <mtraceur>	 Trying to get a hold of a roommate to figure it out
[20:22:44] <mtraceur>	 Hopefully it's just the network dying
[20:23:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10aklapper)
[20:23:08] <rickyb98>	 why don't you use ghost?
[20:23:28] <mtraceur>	 Mostly because I'm curious to see if the other account times out
[20:23:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) 500 error when canceling Google OAuth authentication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52749  (10Andre Klapper)
[20:23:51] <rickyb98>	 oh lol
[20:23:55] <rickyb98>	 mine just did
[20:24:00] <rickyb98>	 you see my nick change
[20:24:05] <mtraceur>	 If it doesn't it means it's still connected somehow, probably
[20:24:22] <mtraceur>	 But it will take five minutes or so
[20:24:25] <mtraceur>	 Maybe 4
[20:24:31] <rickyb98>	 it took less to me…
[20:24:54] <rickyb98>	 usually 2-3 mins
[20:25:00] <rickyb98>	 sometimes 1
[20:25:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Transclusions within a Table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50951  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:25:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) hideBanner not correctly working on HTTPS notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53116 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; ()
[20:25:42] <mtraceur>	 Well either way it looks like the time has definitely passed
[20:25:51] <mtraceur>	 And marktraceur is still there
[20:26:03] <rickyb98>	 ugh that's strange..
[20:26:06] <mtraceur>	 Maybe the IP address changed
[20:26:18] <mtraceur>	 And my roommates don't know to tell me about it
[20:26:29] <rickyb98>	 lol
[20:26:53] <rickyb98>	 usually when the server pings that user, and he doesn't pong back, it shoujld disconnect it..
[20:26:57] <rickyb98>	 strange it doesn't..
[20:26:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement work-arounds for templated table cell rendering issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50603  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:26:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Transclusions within a Table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50951  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[20:27:05] <rickyb98>	 should*
[20:27:47] <rickyb98>	 marktraceur, go away!!!
[20:27:52] <mtraceur>	 Hey
[20:27:54] <mtraceur>	 He's cool
[20:28:07] <rickyb98>	 -.-" lol
[20:28:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Jordan in Arabic to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49050  +comment (10maarten)
[20:28:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add Jordan in Arabic to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49050  (10Maarten Dammers)
[20:29:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) hideBanner not correctly working on HTTPS notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53116  (10Greg Grossmeier)
[20:29:44] <rickyb98>	 still there.........
[20:30:13] <mtraceur>	 Oh, hah
[20:30:15] <mtraceur>	 I see it now
[20:30:15] <^demon>	 mtraceur: Try releasing or ghosting it?
[20:30:17] <mtraceur>	 The IP did change
[20:30:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10CalakWiki)
[20:30:28] <rickyb98>	 ^demon: that's what i say!
[20:30:32] <rickyb98>	 said*
[20:30:46] <rickyb98>	 ghost it!
[20:30:52] <rickyb98>	 go ghost it!
[20:30:54] <rickyb98>	 ghost it!
[20:30:54] <rickyb98>	 ghost it!
[20:30:58] <rickyb98>	 ghost it!
[20:31:07] <rickyb98>	 xD
[20:31:17] <marktraceur>	 rickyb98: Don't flood.
[20:31:21] <rickyb98>	 :D
[20:31:27] <rickyb98>	 :P
[20:31:30] <marktraceur>	 IP changed, but it's still running
[20:31:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should adapt to case-insensitive host file systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52925  +comment (10brion)
[20:31:50] <rickyb98>	 you have your nick back!
[20:31:56] <rickyb98>	 how did you do?
[20:32:19] <marktraceur>	 I found out that the IP address changed
[20:32:19] <rickyb98>	 how did you do that?*
[20:32:24] <rickyb98>	 and?
[20:32:46] <marktraceur>	 Magic
[20:32:53] <rickyb98>	 badaam!
[20:33:57] * Sid-G  still waits

[20:36:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Switch to using the mysqlnd driver in PHP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53117 enhancement; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[20:37:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should adapt to case-insensitive host file systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52925  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[20:39:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Purge foreign pages using an image/media file where this data is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22390  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[20:39:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make "Hide" Cookies notice independent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17108  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:39:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Strange quote behaviour: " shown as &quot; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:39:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Strange quote behaviour: " shown as &quot; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[20:40:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) hideBanner not correctly working on HTTPS notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53116  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:40:26] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Make "Hide" Cookies notice independent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17108  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:42:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10Stefan2)
[20:43:25] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add input method for Latin Kurdish alphabet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50220  (10ghybu.w)
[20:43:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Impossible to move pages ending in .js into userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53115  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[20:44:13] <sumanah>	 hi Sid-G 
[20:44:27] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: hi :)
[20:44:46] <sumanah>	 Sid-G: You didn't quite get help eh?
[20:44:56] * sumanah  reads again

[20:45:13] <Sid-G>	 yeah
[20:45:14] <sumanah>	 "<Sid-G> Hi. we have a gadget at hi-wp which uses the following line:      $.cookie('mw-numerakri-type', type, { expires: 30, path: '/' });              would it need modification for making the cookie secure?
[20:45:22] <Sid-G>	 writing at meta talk now
[20:45:36] <bawolff>	 Secure from what?
[20:45:39] <MatmaRex>	 Sid-G: probably not
[20:45:47] <sumanah>	 Sid-G: and just to be clear, you mean you want to make the gadget work with HTTPS-on-by-default, right?
[20:45:47] <MatmaRex>	 Sid-G: define 'secure'
[20:46:14] <MatmaRex>	 Sid-G: cookies are http and https by default. you can make them http-*only* using the httpOnly option
[20:46:19] <MatmaRex>	 wait, no
[20:46:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Special:MergeAccount: Present merged accounts in separate confirmation box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41399  +comment (10scott)
[20:46:23] <Sid-G>	 from en-wp HTTP Secure : "Similarly, cookies on a site served through HTTPS have to have thesecure attribute enabled.[2]"
[20:46:35] <MatmaRex>	 ookies are http and https by default. you can make them http-*only* somehow
[20:46:52] <Sid-G>	 and from https://github.com/carhartl/jquery-cookie/blob/master/README.md cookie is not secure
[20:46:55] <bawolff>	 Sid-G: I don't think you need to worry
[20:47:07] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in SpecialUpload.php on line 686 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53065  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:47:10] <sumanah>	 btw, hi Sid-G, how are you in general? :-)
[20:47:11] <bawolff>	 That's if you want the cookie to only be read on secure connections
[20:47:20] <bawolff>	 which you (I assume) don't
[20:47:26] <Sid-G>	 bawolff: no it has to be editable
[20:47:37] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: great :) how r u?
[20:48:05] <sumanah>	 Not bad, Sid-G :) I'm a bit concerned about the rollouts tomorrow but I know lots of experts are working on them
[20:48:36] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: hmm, i'm a bit concerned about my data usage ;)
[20:49:02] <sumanah>	 :) are you coming up near your quota Sid-G?
[20:49:39] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: not really
[20:49:52] <Sid-G>	 its the speed limit with my connection that worries me
[20:54:29] <sumanah>	 Sid-G: it worries you because of the speed decrease that comes with HTTPS?
[20:54:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in SpecialUpload.php on line 686 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53065  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[20:55:01] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: it worries me that the extra kbs for https might break the connection camel's back
[20:55:26] <sumanah>	 liangent: when you test, what difference in performance do you see?
[20:55:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) hideBanner not correctly working on HTTPS notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53116  +comment (10James Alexander)
[20:55:36] <Sid-G>	 sumanah: in short, it'd be nice to have a per-user opt-out
[20:55:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) hideBanner not correctly working on HTTPS notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53116  (10James Alexander)
[20:55:51] <liangent>	 sumanah: test for what?
[20:55:55] <sumanah>	 Sid-G: I believe you could opt out in your preferences but I need to read more
[20:56:06] * Sid-G  looks around for info

[20:56:14] <sumanah>	 liangent: I mean when Sid-G does a test to see how long a particular page takes to edit or load, over HTTP and over HTTPS
[20:56:32] <sumanah>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Https is the info hub
[20:56:45] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Generalize foster parented content detection in early DOM postprocessor pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53110  +comment (10gwicke)
[20:58:39] <Raylton>	 sumanah, hey sumana, with who I can talk about the gsoc?
[20:58:53] <mutante>	 !gsoc
[20:58:53] <wm-bot>	 Start a draft on mediawiki.org. In April, submit it to GSoC officially via Melange www.google-melange.com . Then, as you get feedback in IRC and on the wikitech-l mailing list, revise both wiki & Melange versions. Thus there's a public copy that everyone can see + an official copy the mentors see & evaluate. Also, Melange may crash at the 'last minute', so don't wait. Check the Melange FAQ & en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
[20:59:40] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide @lh link on regressions and topfixes page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52555  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:59:45] <sumanah>	 hi Raylton! qgil is good to talk with.
[20:59:49] <sumanah>	 I have to head into a meeting
[20:59:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Template creating CSS in a table's cell does not come through - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44498  +comment (10gwicke)
[21:00:57] <Raylton>	 sumanah, I need to talk now
[21:01:04] <Raylton>	 maybe Lydia_WMDE 
[21:01:08] <Raylton>	 ?
[21:01:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Large drop in historical total active editors numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53118 major; Analytics: Wikistats; ()
[21:01:29] <sumanah>	 Raylton: it's urgent? qgil is usually around right now
[21:01:48] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[21:02:18] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10CalakWiki)
[21:02:36] <Raylton>	 sumanah, ok... I'll wait a bit
[21:03:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Remove sajax usage from MediaWiki extensions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53119 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; ()
[21:03:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10MZMcBride)
[21:04:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Remove sajax itself from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53120 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[21:04:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax usage from MediaWiki extensions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53119  (10MZMcBride)
[21:05:23] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide @lh link on regressions and topfixes page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52555  +comment (10Marc Ordinas i Llopis)
[21:05:46] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) jenkins build failures - Could not generate documentation (puppet issue) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53121 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; ()
[21:06:22] <sumanah>	 Raylton: how urgent is it? can it be in an hour?
[21:06:33] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Remove sajax usage from SecurePoll MediaWiki extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53122 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; ()
[21:06:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax usage from MediaWiki extensions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53119  (10MZMcBride)
[21:07:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Remove sajax usage from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40785  summary; +comment (10MZMcBride)
[21:09:19] <Raylton>	 sumanah, I'm actually planning the periodical scope with Molly. I do not want to delay her work
[21:09:45] <Raylton>	 but I can wait an hour
[21:09:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) jenkins build failures - Could not generate documentation (puppet issue) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53121  (10Daniel Zahn)
[21:12:05] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Logging in via upload button doesn't show tutorial on iPhone 6.1.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53123 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[21:12:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Logging in via upload button doesn't show tutorial on iPhone 6.1.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53123  +comment (10jrobson)
[21:15:47] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Upload tutorial clipped on iPhone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53124 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[21:17:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Regression: Nearby preview broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53125 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[21:21:52] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Check whether we work in IE11 fine, and if so, add to the whitelist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50874  +comment (10James Forrester)
[21:23:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10Nemo)
[21:25:29] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Cannot start talk topics on empty talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53126 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[21:25:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10greg)
[21:26:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Alignment of Special:notifications site slogan is odd in monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52111  (10bsitu)
[21:27:22] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Strange quote behaviour: " shown as &quot; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53112  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:27:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Change [[MediaWiki:Watchlist-details]] as discussed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53098  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Nemo)
[21:27:51] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638  (10Nemo)
[21:32:49] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Echo: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in BasicFormatter.php on line 608 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52897  (10bsitu)
[21:36:09] <qgil>	 Raylton, yes?
[21:37:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Allow recordings to be uploaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53127 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PronunciationRecording; ()
[21:38:13] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53127  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:38:15] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53127  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[21:38:55] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10stefan2bugzilla)
[21:39:10] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) lists.wikimedia.org has no SPF record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556  +comment (10federicoleva)
[21:40:38] <Raylton>	 qgil, on the gsoc project. It is doing well, but it will not be stable at the end of the deadline, because there are two bugs that are too difficult to be solve
[21:41:24] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) for lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52569  +comment (10federicoleva)
[21:41:28] <qgil>	 Raylton, not a big deal? Especially if molly wants to continue working on them after the deadline.
[21:41:54] <GorillaWarfare>	 qgil: I plan to
[21:42:19] <qgil>	 Raylton, GorillaWarfare  Having the functionality in place and the code published is the minimum.
[21:42:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Echo email UX issue: Generic "new WikiLove message" instead of actual content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43789  (10bsitu)
[21:42:55] <qgil>	 Raylton, GorillaWarfare bugs happen, and tough bugs take extra time to fix, yes. Business as usual.
[21:43:37] <qgil>	 Raylton, GorillaWarfare what you can do is to decide where to put the remaining time, e.g. fighting those bugs at the expense of further testing or documentation, or vice versa
[21:44:20] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, what are those bugs? Are they in bugzilla?
[21:44:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Allow recordings to be uploaded to central media repository (Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53128 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PronunciationRecording; ()
[21:44:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded to central media repository (Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53128  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:44:53] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53127  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:44:57] <GorillaWarfare>	 qgil: Yep. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52435 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51973
[21:45:06] <GorillaWarfare>	 It's an efficiency issue and an accessibility issue
[21:45:53] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, Raylton boths appear as unprioritized / normal. I assume they are not blockers?
[21:46:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Add component for PronunciationRecording MediaWiki extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53074  +comment (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:46:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded to central media repository (Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53128  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:46:22] <Raylton>	 qgil,  I see... we will do it, I just needed to check, because I do not want she has some bad surprise.
[21:46:23] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, Raylton if all the rest works as expected then I think you can be very happy!  :)
[21:46:44] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53127  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:47:03] <GorillaWarfare>	 qgil: Well, we were thinking they were probably blockers to getting the code deployed on the Wikimedia wikis
[21:47:22] <qgil>	 Raylton, GorillaWarfare lack of noJS fallback is tough, yes. Then again we have many key features that don't have noJS fallback. 
[21:47:28] <GorillaWarfare>	 But as of yet we don't have any bugs that make the whole thing go up in flames or anything
[21:47:31] <GorillaWarfare>	 Indeed
[21:48:18] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, I'm no maintainer so you'll need to discuss this with the right people. But as GSoC org admin I think you could be very happy even counting those two bugs
[21:48:42] <GorillaWarfare>	 That's reassuring :)
[21:48:43] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Integrate recording interface to Wiktionary definitions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53129 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PronunciationRecording; ()
[21:49:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Integrate recording interface to Wiktionary definitions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53129  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:49:14] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, is your project in a state where the Wikisource community could start testing it somewhere?
[21:49:42] <Raylton>	 qgil, http://tools.wmflabs.org/bookmanagerv2/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal
[21:49:57] <GorillaWarfare>	 Not all the intended functionality is available, but it is something people could test/comment on
[21:50:07] <GorillaWarfare>	 That said, the tools.wmflabs wiki is quite slow most of the time :P
[21:50:14] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:50:34] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  (10Matthew Flaschen)
[21:52:17] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, Raylton anyway, if you are at this point by August 20, it looks like you will be in a good place by the end of GSoC. No worries.
[21:53:09] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610  +comment (10mflaschen)
[21:53:21] <Raylton>	 qgil, thank you :D 
[21:54:02] <qgil>	 GorillaWarfare, Raylton thank *you*
[21:54:31] <Raylton>	 ;)
[21:54:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Categories should not be rendered in a table (do not display well on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53130 normal; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[21:55:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Parsoid not correctly rendering bold/italic text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49926  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:55:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10lvilla)
[21:56:16] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  +comment (10James Forrester)
[21:56:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: be & be-tarask locales need a different i18n Bold toolbar icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53094  (10James Forrester)
[21:57:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Categories should not be rendered in a table (do not display well on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53130  +comment (10jrobson)
[21:58:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) language switching broken on test.wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53029  normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[21:59:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Template creating CSS in a table's cell does not come through - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44498  +comment (10gwicke)
[22:02:03] <Krenair>	 Elsie, thanks for sorting out those sajax bugs
[22:02:37] <sumanah>	 GorillaWarfare: hoo man might be interested in helping on the a11y front :-)
[22:03:31] <sumanah>	 GorillaWarfare: when you say that tools.wmflabs.org wiki is slow - is that something that the Labs folks could help you speed up? what performance are you seeing & what performance do you need to see?
[22:04:22] <Reedy>	 Wouldn't just moving it to its own project help?
[22:04:23] <marktraceur>	 sumanah: The answer is for GorillaWarfare to quit using toollabs to host mediawiki, I'm pretty sure :)
[22:04:44] <GorillaWarfare>	 marktraceur: Oh hush
[22:04:54] <bawolff>	 GorillaWarfare stay strong. If you leave the tools server I'll be the only one doing that
[22:04:59] <GorillaWarfare>	 But he's right, sumanah, it's just not made for that :P
[22:05:04] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: Yeah, you crazy
[22:05:10] <sumanah>	 hahahaha
[22:05:16] <marktraceur>	 GorillaWarfare: You're lucky I didn't bring any nerf guns
[22:05:27] <marktraceur>	 HAIL of foam bullets
[22:05:28] <sumanah>	 isn't there some kind of MediaWiki-in-a-box canned Labs instance you can copy & mod for your own use?
[22:05:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) make $wgUseInstantCommons protocol always secure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53131 normal; MediaWiki: Sites; ()
[22:05:35] <sumanah>	 via Vagrant or something
[22:05:40] <bawolff>	 hosting mediawiki on tools lab is pita. No XFF. Weird crap with the umask of the uploaded files
[22:05:43] <Reedy>	 marktraceur: On the internets no one knows you don't have any nerf guns
[22:06:13] * bawolff  has noticed that wmf office has an over abundance of nerf guns...

[22:06:37] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: You mean to say, I'm sure, that there aren't enough
[22:07:11] <bawolff>	 marktraceur: In particular I don't have one. If I was attacked I wouldn't be able to defend myself...
[22:07:34] <marktraceur>	 bawolff: If you take the one that's on my desk, I have another stashed in the OIT den
[22:07:44] <marktraceur>	 I can retrieve it when I get back
[22:07:50] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) make $wgUseInstantCommons protocol always secure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53131  +comment (10sam)
[22:07:54] <marktraceur>	 I guess another two
[22:08:01] <bawolff>	 lol, another two!
[22:08:14] <marktraceur>	 Well, the one on my desk is Ironholds's
[22:09:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide a link to the JSON (view) page from the navbar dropdowns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52821  +comment (10mwalker)
[22:09:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Upload varnish cp1063 not responding to purges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52864  +comment (10Asher Feldman)
[22:10:06] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) make $wgUseInstantCommons protocol always secure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53131  (10Tamer Shlash)
[22:10:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Provide a link to the JSON (view) page from the navbar dropdowns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52821  +comment (10Matt Walker)
[22:10:24] <Amgine>	 <notes the WMF has entered the arms race>
[22:10:38] <marktraceur>	 Amgine: We need soldiers more than guns, I think
[22:10:51] <marktraceur>	 Most of the office has "work" to do
[22:11:00] <Amgine>	 Well, I was thinking "who can get to MarkTraceur's desk first".
[22:11:36] <marktraceur>	 Heh
[22:11:53] <marktraceur>	 A more literal use of the terms "arms race" than usual, I gu.ess
[22:12:10] <Amgine>	 I imagine the side betting on that might be worth the distraction.
[22:12:34] * sumanah  thinks a real arms race would be a walking-on-your-hands race

[22:12:52] <Amgine>	 ++sumanah
[22:19:04] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Categories should not be rendered in a table (do not display well on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53130  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[22:19:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Closing commented text at the beginning of a line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49273  +comment (10robkam)
[22:24:21] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: IME shift+ function for adding diacritical marks in Arabic broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50105  +comment (10Abbad)
[22:24:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Categories should not be rendered in a table (do not display well on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53130  +comment (10jrobson)
[22:28:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Notifications do not work for male users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[22:34:28] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Implement work-arounds for templated table cell rendering issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50603  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:35:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Notifications do not work for male users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[22:37:11] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Notifications do not work for male users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[22:39:30] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Notifications do not work for male users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132  +comment (10mybugs.mail)
[22:41:32] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Categories should not be rendered in a table (do not display well on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53130  +comment (10Amgine.Saewyc)
[22:42:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) ResourceLoader didn't invalidate cached CSS correctly for #toc change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51766  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[22:43:42] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) MediaWiki:Autoblocker etc. reveals to third party that a (blocked) user has used the same IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53008  +comment (10federicoleva)
[22:43:52] <Amgine>	 <wants to make a sexist joke about #53132>
[22:47:16] <Technical_13>	 !b 53132
[22:47:16] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132
[22:47:42] <sumanah>	 Raylton: sounds like you and Quim and Molly figured everything out, right?
[22:48:07] <sumanah>	 Wow, what a weird bug! (thank you for refraining, Amgine)
[22:50:02] <Raylton>	 Yes sumana... thanks! We use the information to better define the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_management/Bug_priority
[22:50:15] <sumanah>	 Raylton: cool! Glad you got what you needed.
[22:51:17] <Technical_13>	 Helder isn't here...
[22:51:29] <Technical_13>	 @seen helder
[22:51:29] <wm-bot>	 Technical_13: I have never seen helder
[22:51:37] <Technical_13>	 @seen helder.wiki
[22:51:37] <wm-bot>	 Technical_13: I have never seen helder.wiki
[22:51:52] <Technical_13>	 Idr the nick he uses..
[22:52:04] <Technical_13>	 @seen Helderwiki
[22:52:04] <wm-bot>	 Technical_13: Last time I saw Helderwiki they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Saindo N/A at 8/20/2013 10:41:02 PM (11m1s ago)
[22:52:07] <Amgine>	 Technical_13: ask in #wikipedia-pt ?
[22:52:13] <Technical_13>	 Found ir.
[22:52:16] <sumanah>	 bawolff: I hope https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/July_2013/Contents/Open_Access_report starts using your new <gallery> format!
[22:53:00] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Impossible to move pages ending in .js into userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53115  +comment (10mfwarburg)
[22:53:06] <sumanah>	 Any Spanish speakers want to head into #wikimedia-tech to help someone?
[22:54:12] <Technical_13>	 Notifications require two things.  A link to a user page [[User:Foo]] and a four tilde signature ~~~~
[22:54:32] <Technical_13>	 Won't fire any other way currently that I'm aware of 
[22:54:39] <sumanah>	 waldir_: do you know some Spanish?
[22:54:54] <waldir_>	 sumanah, yes :)
[22:55:13] <sumanah>	 waldir_: can you come into #wikimedia-tech in case TDK there runs out of English? :-)
[22:56:10] <waldir>	 sumanah, sure :)
[22:56:48] <sumanah>	 thank you waldir 
[22:57:48] <Elsie>	 Krenair: No problem! :-)
[22:58:24] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, What you need to speak with helderwiki?
[22:58:47] <Technical_13>	 His bug report.
[22:58:50] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, about echo?
[22:58:55] <Technical_13>	 !b 53132
[22:58:55] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53132
[23:00:37] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) cannot find replica.my.cnf in bot home directory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53133 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[23:00:43] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, what you want to talk? maybe I can help, we were talking about it recently
[23:01:38] <Technical_13>	 His diffs in the report suggest he doesn't understand what the ping triggers are.
[23:03:03] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, can you explain?
[23:03:17] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[23:03:38] <Technical_13>	 Notifications require two things.  A link to a user page [[User:Foo]] and a four tilde signature ~~~~
[23:04:09] <Technical_13>	 If either of those are missing, it won't fire.
[23:04:45] <Technical_13>	 Regardless of gender or custom signature.
[23:04:59] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:05:01] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[23:05:29] <Technical_13>	 Now, it is possible to create a custom signature that won't fire it as well.
[23:05:39] <Amgine>	 Raylton: Helder relatou um problema. Ele gostaria de corrigi-lo. Primeiro, ele precisa verificar se o problema pode ser recriado.
[23:06:17] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: there is a link and a signature in his examples?
[23:06:46] <Raylton>	 and namespaces translated like [[usu�rio:foo]], fire? 
[23:06:54] <Technical_13>	 The edit summary says no signature, so I'm assuming he typed out his signature manually.
[23:07:02] <Raylton>	 Amgine, eu estava testando junto com ele 
[23:07:17] <Technical_13>	 Raylton: they do.
[23:07:40] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: that shouldn't matter, unless echo does weirder things than i though
[23:07:47] <Technical_13>	 Raylton: my understanding is they are tested based in namespace number.
[23:07:48] <Raylton>	 Amgine, nos tinha-mos duvidas se a notifica��o era gerado a partir do hist�rico ou do ~~~~ 
[23:08:01] <Technical_13>	 MatmaRex: it must be a ~~~~ signature...
[23:08:07] <Yogi_>	 Hey guys, I have a webhosting account and I am not sure how to run /maintenance/update.php  through cpanel... Can someone give me an way to do that
[23:08:17] <Technical_13>	 ~~~ ~~~~~ Won't even work.
[23:08:36] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: no, the contents must be equivalent to a ~~~~ signature.
[23:08:43] <MatmaRex>	 how they are generateddoesn't matter
[23:08:58] <MatmaRex>	 (i just looked at thecode and confirmed this)
[23:09:14] <Technical_13>	 MatmaRex: I've tested with ~~~ ~~~~~ and it doesn't fire.  ~~~ ~~~~~ = ~~~~
[23:09:29] <MatmaRex>	 Yogi_: you probably can't. you should try theweb updater, i think
[23:09:30] <MatmaRex>	 !update
[23:09:30] <wm-bot>	 update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script>
[23:10:03] <MatmaRex>	 Yogi_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Web_updater
[23:10:05] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: hmmmm.
[23:10:18] <Yogi_>	 Thanks a bunch guys!
[23:11:19] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: that can't possibly be true. let's test again
[23:11:45] <MatmaRex>	 Technical_13: let's try it on [[testwiki:]]?
[23:11:48] <MatmaRex>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[23:11:50] <Technical_13>	 I did a ton of testing how it worked when I designed http://enwp.org/Template:Pinggroup
[23:11:58] <Technical_13>	 Sure.
[23:12:24] <Technical_13>	 !link
[23:12:24] <wm-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$wiki_encoded_*
[23:12:35] <Technical_13>	 !testlink
[23:12:52] <MatmaRex>	 i'll try pinging you both ways
[23:12:59] <MatmaRex>	 [[User:Technical 13]]?
[23:13:21] <Technical_13>	 Yep
[23:13:53] <MatmaRex>	 ~~~~ done
[23:14:29] <MatmaRex>	 and ~~~ ~~~~~ too
[23:14:33] <MatmaRex>	 did you get two pings?
[23:14:34] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, not sure I understand. then name of the user  the that triggered action, is obtained by a ~ ~ ~ ~ (using regex?) and not from usename in history.
[23:14:58] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Database::delete() bug: when $conds is a string, makeList( ... LIST_AND) is applied, but should not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50078  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:15:12] <Technical_13>	 Matma Rex mentioned you on Matma Rex talk page in 'test powiadomień'.
[23:15:20] <Technical_13>	 Checking for second.
[23:15:40] <Technical_13>	 Just 1
[23:16:20] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Private wikis need to override "wikimedia-copyright" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45767  +comment (10lvilla)
[23:17:11] <Technical_13>	 Ping me one way on user talk:technical-13 and the other on user talk:ShoeMaker
[23:17:19] <MatmaRex>	 unbelievable
[23:17:28] <Technical_13>	 My two vanilla accounts.
[23:17:29] <MatmaRex>	 it'll probably get weird when i ping on your talk page
[23:17:54] <Technical_13>	 Don't tell me which is which and I'll copy paste what I get.
[23:18:41] <MatmaRex>	 pinged you once. see it?
[23:19:57] <Technical_13>	 Checking...
[23:20:02] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Echo or SUL: Only number in p-personal (without style) displayed on first time you go on a WM site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53134 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[23:20:40] <Technical_13>	 Matma Rex mentioned you on ShoeMaker talk page in '[[User talk:ShoeMaker#|]]'.
[23:21:05] <Raylton>	 Technical_13, is it?
[23:21:10] <Technical_13>	 Yep.
[23:21:19] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Echo or SUL: Only number in p-personal (without style) displayed on first time you go on a WM site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53134  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:21:22] <MatmaRex>	 well, that was ~~~ ~~~~~
[23:21:42] <Technical_13>	 Technical_13 technical-13 ShoeMaker are all me.
[23:21:46] <Technical_13>	 Hrmm.
[23:21:49] <MatmaRex>	 (and thefact that the notif looks weird is reportedas a bug already, btw)
[23:22:31] <MatmaRex>	 maybe simply subsequent notifs on one page are not respected?
[23:22:47] <MatmaRex>	 either as spam prevention, or accidentally due to how similar notifications are sometimes merged
[23:23:03] <Technical_13>	 That is likely, which is why I suggested using both my vanilla talk pages.
[23:23:49] <MatmaRex>	 i did it again on https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ShoeMaker
[23:27:57] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Echo or SUL: Only number in p-personal (without style) displayed on first time you go on a WM site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53134  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:30:54] <Technical_13>	 MatmaRex: got that one too.
[23:31:33] <MatmaRex>	 woot.
[23:32:35] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) HTTPS only Wikimedia problem for Iran Language related Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52846  +comment (10stefan2bugzilla)
[23:34:45] <Technical_13>	 [19:18] <+wm-bot2> [[Matma_Rex]] created [[User_talk:ShoeMaker]] (new page magic ) ▶ all?title=User_talk:ShoeMaker
[23:34:45] <Technical_13>	 [19:23] <+wm-bot2> [[Matma_Rex]] modified [[User_talk:ShoeMaker]] ( + ) ▶ all?diff=178382
[23:34:49] <Technical_13>	 lol
[23:35:23] * Technical_13  wishes the "all" bug was fixed...

[23:56:08] <wikibugs_>	 03(NEW) Clean up single vs. multi-part data-mw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53135 normal; Parsoid: DOM; ()
[23:56:36] <wikibugs_>	 03(mod) Clean up single vs. multi-part data-mw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53135  (10Gabriel Wicke)