would probably do as well [12:50:08] the problem is that it's a concatenation of tocs i guess. [12:50:31] yeah [12:50:46] damn enwikians always abusing stuff [12:51:17] maybe we could limit the display:inline-block to #toc, not .toc? [12:52:21] well anyway, that little table thing there probably shouldn't be using class=toc, as it's not a toc. [12:52:21] the inline-block is to make it not span 100% right ? [12:52:24] yes [12:52:26] right [12:53:47] we could also experiment with https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/width width: fit-content, i guess [12:54:25] but it's not widely supported, so i wouldn;t do that [12:54:38] hmm, i'll play with it some more in the next days. I'm still working on conversions of those fake tocs, so perhaps if it's all done, it isn't even a problem. [12:56:14] (Note that ‘width: fit-content’ is the same as ‘width: auto’ for floats and tables, and ‘width: available’ is the same as ‘width: auto’ for blocks in the normal flow. – from http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-box/) [12:56:30] most of this is due to all of them using one particular template. but those 'derivates' don't all serve the same purpose. some are primary, others additional navigation tools. [12:56:54] hm, why did we not make it display:table? [12:56:57] MatmaRex: ah, that's nice. It's about time they added that. let's hope it gets adopted soon. [12:57:23] i probably had a good reason for this, hm [12:57:36] MatmaRex: no clue. display:table is widely supported. perhaps we just didn't think of it ? [12:57:39] but the comments just say "clearly suboptimal" now, heh [12:57:57] i spent way too much time thinking about that to miss it, hopefully [12:58:13] i had some long-winded explanationon an earlier patchset [12:58:16] but killed it later [12:58:52] aha! [12:58:52] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39792/10/skins/common/commonContent.css [12:59:09] We could simply use display: table to do it The Right Way, but unfortunately not [12:59:11] all browsers support it (yet), and those that do often have some minor issues. [12:59:14] It's also bad form to use display: table with no elements with a display: table-row [12:59:16] and display:table-cell inside (and this would be the case unless we added some [12:59:19] especially for this). We could live with this, but there happens to be a second way. [12:59:25] alright, still makes sense to me. :P [12:59:38] hehe [13:00:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: MW images shouldn't be able to take a link annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53151 (10Ed Sanders) [13:00:20] http://quirksmode.org/css/css2/display.html#link9 [13:00:27] ^ this is nice [13:00:36] what? [13:01:02] joined after :P [13:01:11] hi rickyb98 [13:01:13] [15:00] http://quirksmode.org/css/css2/display.html#link9 [13:01:16] hi :) [13:02:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Applying link annotation to a selection containing link and image kills the image, inserts a for the link's text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50127 +comment (10esanders) [13:02:19] lol [13:02:21] thedj[work]: display:table with inline-block fallbackwouldn't be that bad, actually [13:02:26] (table isn't support by IE<8) [13:02:32] supproted* [13:02:48] since we don't really care that muhc about old IEs, as long as things mostly work [13:02:49] brb [13:19:19] I can recreate a DB from an SQL dump without the objectcache table, right? [13:19:22] 'Cause it's really huge. [13:23:52] JordiGH: yes, it's a cache http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache#Object_caching [13:24:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Objectcache_table [13:44:50] 03(mod) Large drop in historical total active editors numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53118 +comment (10ezachte) [13:46:22] Hmmmm... [13:46:29] I'm not understanding this cache business. [13:46:46] Welcome to the club. :-) [13:47:32] I should be able to just completely delete the rows of the objectcache table, right? [13:47:45] that won't break everything, just slow down the wiki for a while until it caches things again? [13:48:24] Probably? [13:48:35] Yeah, sure. [13:48:48] You may want to drop the table rather than delete the rows. [13:48:51] But either way, sure. [13:49:44] Will mediawiki just recreate the table if it's missing? [13:50:01] Only if you re-run through the installer. [13:50:06] I think. [13:50:11] Uhhhh... [13:50:29] Or run update.php. [13:50:34] Or manually re-create it. [13:50:54] The manual page says it'll be regenerated, but I'm not sure that includes table creation. [13:51:12] 03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15294 +comment (10shinjiman) [13:51:20] 03(NEW) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [13:54:54] 03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15294 +comment (10federicoleva) [13:57:08] 03(mod) Wikimedia wikis with $wgLanguageCode = 'zh' error with certain input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51551 +comment (10liangent) [14:00:26] 03(NEW) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [14:03:32] 03(mod) Assistant languages suggestions ('In other languages') strip newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52272 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:04:45] 03(mod) Assistant languages suggestions ('In other languages') strip newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52272 (10Niklas Laxström) [14:07:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ordered application of annotations to avoid fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50098 +comment (10Elitre) [14:09:44] MediaWiki not send email. How to fix? [14:10:03] 03(mod) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 +comment (10MZMcBride) [14:10:06] !debug | Kolega2357 [14:10:06] Kolega2357: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [14:10:15] You can try debugging. [14:10:27] Or verify that your e-mail settings in LocalSettings.php are correct. [14:11:38] How set email settings in LocalSettings.php? [14:12:05] 03(mod) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 normal->15enhancement (10Technical 13) [14:12:20] 03(mod) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 15enhancement->minor (10Technical 13) [14:13:01] 03(mod) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 (10Technical 13) [14:14:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When users are adding external links to internal pages, ask them whether they want to add internal links instead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42986 +comment (10Elitre) [14:15:15] 03(mod) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 +comment (10b) [14:17:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: It should be possible to edit links with double square brackets and interwiki prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49316 summary; +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [14:18:44] 03(mod) Large drop in historical total active editors numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53118 +comment (10Dan Andreescu) [14:21:45] Hey, guys. Back with more post-update bug questions. [14:22:07] So for some reason, uploads aren't working. I get the message Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/archive/e/e4" [14:22:23] The same thing happens when I try to move images. [14:22:34] "Could not open lock file for *blahblahblah*" [14:26:18] So what's up with this lock file, and why am I having these issues? [14:26:51] You guys have always proven to be the best source of information whenever I'm left clueless. [14:27:15] Flattery will get you nowhere. ;-) [14:28:08] 03(NEW) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 normal; Wiki Loves Monuments: Sources; () [14:28:17] errmmm, file permissions, idk :S [14:30:55] 03(mod) Add sources to Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 monuments database (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52818 (10Effeietsanders) [14:30:55] 03(mod) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 (10Effeietsanders) [14:31:12] 03(mod) copyright notice can't be dismissed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47435 (10abraham.taherivand) [14:31:18] Yep, a quick chmod 777 to the images directory fixed it. [14:31:21] I feel dumb. [14:31:23] 03(mod) copyright notice can't be dismissed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47435 (10abraham.taherivand) [14:36:49] Man, I've been playing whack-a-bug with my fellow admins over the past few days. [14:37:00] What a pain in the ass this has turned out to be >.> [14:37:18] But at least we've finally updated our wiki. [14:37:29] We were using 1.17. [14:43:27] justin_ZW: yay for updating. :-) [14:43:50] Hope it went well. [14:43:54] It did, actually. [14:44:02] Better than I had thought it would. [14:44:12] Woo. [14:44:14] http://zeldawiki.org looks fantastic [14:44:23] You should've seen my early test environments >.> [14:44:30] Oh gawd were they bad [14:44:43] Looks nice. :-) [14:46:27] {{#tag:css}}... interesting. [14:46:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/%23tag:Template:css [14:46:33] Thanks, wm-bot. [14:46:33] Hey Elsie, you are welcome! [14:46:37] Heh. [14:46:56] http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/CSS&action=edit [14:47:12] Arbitrary per-page blocks of CSS... we've discussed that for MediaWiki core. [14:47:36] 03(mod) Use item formatter for claim diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46366 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [14:48:10] Elsie: Really? I think we use an extension to do that. [14:48:19] In fact, I'm pretty sure it's newpagecss [14:48:30] That would be a useful core functionality. [14:48:37] Especially for the main page. [14:49:35] Yeah. It's just annoying to sanitize everything, I think. CSS has gotten a bit insane. ;-) [14:50:02] And of course as soon as we have per-page CSS, people want want per-page LESS. [14:50:06] There's no winning. [14:50:11] Screw it, "delete from objectcache", engage? (y/n) [14:50:32] JordiGH: I assume you're having some unspoken problem with that table? [14:50:40] It's just big. [14:50:46] And it doesn't seem to ever get any smaller. [14:50:48] Are you racing? [14:50:49] It's growing without bound. [14:50:53] Oh. [14:50:54] Hmm. [14:50:58] Like how big? [14:51:03] And how are you measuring it? [14:51:29] I can't figure out the cache options to figure out why it's doing this. [14:51:43] You read the manual page? [14:51:44] !caching [14:51:44] General information about caches can be seen at , for configuration settings see [14:52:00] Those two links should have most of the info you need. [14:52:22] I don't see an option there that says "Make the objectcache table smaller". [14:52:29] It's making MySQL dumps big. [14:52:45] I could work around it, really. [14:53:01] You mean by excluding the table in your dumps? [14:53:04] But it looks like the expirytimes on a lot of table entries are set to maximum Unix time. [14:53:09] Yeah, I could do that. [14:53:14] But still, why is the thing so big? [14:53:36] How much bigger are you talking? [14:53:56] I haven't tried a dump without objectcache... [14:54:13] But it's been growing from a couple hundred megabytes to a couple of gigs. [14:54:23] The gzipped dumps, I mean. [14:54:34] Without a corresponding amount of activity on the wiki? [14:54:43] I mean, popular wikis do grow that quickly. [14:54:49] But that'd be unusual. [14:54:57] How'd you identify the objectcache table? [14:55:19] I don't really know object caches well. [14:55:21] I see there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgObjectCaches [14:55:27] But that manual page is confusing. [14:55:33] 03(mod) Interface uses "video" regardless of media type in several places - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44267 +comment (10jgerber) [14:55:34] mysql> SELECT table_name, data_length FROM `information_schema`.`tables` ORDER BY data_length DESC; [14:55:43] That shows that the objdump table is 100 times bigger than the next table. [14:55:45] Fair enough. [14:55:49] and yeah, we're getting activity. [14:56:05] Over time, user will grow, page will grow, revision will grow. [14:56:10] That's natural, of course. [14:56:11] omfg. [14:56:12] Healthy, even. [14:56:15] Hi Reedy. [14:56:28] JordiGH: Anyway, yeah, I'm sure mysqldump has a flag for table exclusion. [14:56:34] It has flags for everything else. [14:56:41] Looks like it doesn't... [14:56:46] It has a flag for table inclusion. [14:56:50] But not exclusion. [14:56:57] Well, not a flag, you just list the tables you want. [14:57:29] I don't really know or understand the caching layers. [14:57:37] Reedy does, though! [14:58:17] I think I'd be satisfied with writing a mysqldump line that omits the objectcache table's rows but not its schema. [14:59:21] Can you pastebin the customized lines you have in LocalSettings.php that are cache-related? [14:59:27] Oh, there we go, --ignore-table [14:59:38] I'm not sure you were wrong to look at the MediaWiki side. [14:59:40] Now I just need another mysqldump option for dumping the table's schema but not its contents. [15:00:00] I'm pretty sure there's an option for that. [15:00:04] schema only or something. [15:00:34] You don't really want your production database growing unexpectedly. [15:00:51] Unless you like the level of caching. [15:03:57] I suppose I can do "mysqldump --ignore-table=objectcache" followed by "mysqlump --no-data objectcache". [15:04:09] And just concatenate the output. [15:04:29] 03(NEW) Search datasource is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53155 normal; Analytics: Limn; () [15:04:37] sumanah: hello [15:06:24] 03(NEW) Provide option to force a login session to end within a certain time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53156 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [15:06:57] 03(mod) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 +comment (10Technical_13) [15:07:05] 03(mod) Provide option to force a login session to end within a certain time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53156 normal->15enhancement (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [15:08:09] Hi Rahul21 [15:08:24] Hello everyone! [15:08:29] Hello! :) [15:08:33] sumanah: How was wikimania? [15:09:06] Kolega2357: I think rickyb98 is also a Serbian speaker although I could be wrong. I can't remember why I think this. [15:09:15] wrong! [15:09:19] :) [15:09:21] Rahul21: I'm glad I got to make new friends and meet new ones. [15:09:23] I'm Italian :) [15:09:35] I know. [15:09:40] :) [15:09:41] 03(mod) Scap broken for deploying new versions of MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51174 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:09:45] sumanah: I want to attend it next year [15:09:48] 03(mod) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 +comment (10Technical_13) [15:10:02] sumanah: wish I could get a scholarship, hehe [15:10:07] Rahul21: keep an eye on the Wikimania mailing list for scholarship application announcements. [15:10:07] 03(mod) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 +comment (10b) [15:10:12] rickyb98 do you really speak Serbian? [15:10:20] no, i don't :) [15:10:24] sorry [15:11:17] sumanah, why did you think that? :P [15:11:27] sumanah: any particular contribution/activity that would help me in getting into the good books of the selection panel?( Based on your experience ) [15:11:33] rickyb98: I'm not sure whether you saw when I said "I can't remember why I think this." [15:11:43] maybe Italian and Serbian are similar? (?) [15:12:02] Rahul21: I am not on the scholarships committee. I can give you advice on how to be a more effective and engaged Wikimedian citizen overall. [15:12:02] rickyb98: I'm not sure whether you saw when I said "I can't remember why I think this." <<< yes i did :) [15:12:02] Someone here is lying [15:12:18] who's lying? [15:12:19] Kolega2357: I'm sorry, why do you think this? That is a serious accusation. [15:12:38] just kidding [15:12:44] :D [15:12:49] sumanah: sure. All ears [15:12:59] Kolega2357: Please don't tease strangers about things like that. It leads to hurt feelings, in my experience. [15:13:42] 03(mod) wpIgnoreBlankSummary or similar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53152 +comment (10b) [15:13:44] Kolega2357, did you want to ask something about mediawiki? [15:14:00] sumanah: I am sorry [15:15:20] Rahul21: Contribute to local efforts in your communities. Encourage newbies to edit, upload, proofread, code, etc. Lead local workshops. Check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_evaluation_basics:_glossary_of_evaluation_terms and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grantmaking_and_Programs/Learning_&_Evaluation_portal to help you be more effective. [15:15:52] Rahul21: Add to and translate useful documents and newsletters, like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost . [15:17:00] is texvc missing a known error ? [15:17:32] Rahul21: Find out what your local Wikimedia chapter is doing, e.g. http://wikimedia.in/ , and what you can contribute to their efforts. Check whether there are other Wikimedia organizations you might be interested in, e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations , and contribute if there is one. [15:18:24] Rahul21: Also: why do you want to go to Wikimania? What specifically can you contribute to the Wikimedia movement by being there? If you have a specific answer, then that helps people understand why you want to go and why they should help you. [15:18:45] I don't need anything else from you guys, so I'm gonna go. Thanks, even though you didn't really have much to say :P [15:18:45] Oh wait, next years Wikimania is London right? I'm going to have to travel so far :( [15:19:03] 03(mod) Video rendering/transcoding fails for certain .ogg and.ogv files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46650 +comment (10jgerber) [15:21:21] 03(mod) Please upload 3 video files > 500MB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52926 +comment (10sam) [15:25:44] 03(mod) &(append|prepend)Text option for index.php action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53153 +comment (10Technical_13) [15:26:30] 03(mod) Set Interwiki order from Wikidata's wmgWikibaseClientSettings to alphabetic for Ilokano Wikipedia (ilo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46245 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:26:51] Reedy, did you notice #49442 (texvc missing) ? [15:26:57] Lol, no [15:27:00] Easily fixed, moment [15:27:13] sumanah: Thank you!! [15:27:19] You are welcome, Rahul21 [15:27:29] Will take every point into consideration [15:27:41] Rahul21: I think you should also look at the scholarships committee's own FAQ [15:29:15] 03(mod) Create "wikiproject" namespace on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52665 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:29:41] phe: Done [15:29:42] 03(mod) Request for namespaces on Palatine Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52671 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:30:33] 03(mod) Enable "Extension:NewUserMessage" on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52678 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:31:09] 03(mod) Missing texvc executable on Portuguese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49442 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:32:00] 03(NEW) Value field fails to load for property "language" (P407) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53157 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [15:32:25] 03(mod) Please upload 3 video files > 500MB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52926 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:33:12] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:33:51] 03(mod) Additional Namespace Aliases for dewikivoyage needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51794 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:34:27] When will be activated flood flag for sh wiki? [15:34:50] 03(mod) incorrect results for 'nobel prize' search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52860 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [15:38:21] 03(mod) Flood flag for sh wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52273 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:40:05] 03(mod) Value field fails to load for property "language" (P407) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53157 +comment (10Aude) [15:40:56] 03(mod) Add Algeria to the monuments database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52994 +comment (10Effeietsanders) [15:42:53] 03(mod) Value field fails to load for property "language" (P407) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53157 +comment (10denny vrandecic) [15:43:12] 03(mod) Value field fails to load for property "language" (P407) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53157 (10denny vrandecic) [15:43:46] hi qgil how are you? [15:44:08] 03(mod) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 +comment (10Sergey Leschina) [15:44:52] 03(mod) Enable blocking feature of AbuseFilter on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52681 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:45:58] How to create IRC channel? [15:49:07] Kolega2357: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC may help you. [15:57:06] 03(mod) Create "wikiproject" namespace on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52665 +comment (10CalakWiki) [15:58:00] 03(mod) Create "wikiproject" namespace on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52665 (10Calak) [15:59:55] 03(mod) Write maintenance script to purge old IP data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51573 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [16:00:51] 03(NEW) setup devrepo on new, larger instance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53158 normal; Wikimedia Labs: wikidata; () [16:02:05] 03(mod) Add 'eliminator', interface_editor, 'trusted' and 'editprotected' groups on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52866 +comment (10Calak) [16:10:45] Who is IRC channel for BugZilla Wikimedia? Urgent is [16:12:11] Kolega2357: andre__ perhaps? [16:13:17] yes, me [16:17:12] Kolega2357: what's the issue? [16:17:37] Bureaucrat has not remove own flood flag [16:17:48] 03(mod) Change upload setting on ckb.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52725 +comment (10CalakWiki) [16:18:32] Kolega2357, please provide a link. [16:18:37] to a Bugzilla report. [16:18:40] I don't know enough about user right stuff [16:19:17] and I don't understand the problem yet :-/ [16:19:20] (if it's really urgent) [16:19:39] crat not being able to remove crat is the default config [16:19:48] Some wikis have asked to have this modified [16:19:59] he doesn't want to remove crat [16:20:05] he wants to remove his own flood flag [16:20:15] Yes Kreinar [16:20:20] oh. Well he should be able to do that [16:20:30] * andre__ does not see anything Bugzilla related here and is out [16:20:32] What wiki is this? [16:21:48] http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Popis_korisni%C4%8Dkih_prava [16:23:28] okay so this is in relation to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52273 [16:23:39] Interesting. Provided the crat is also an admin (as is usually the case), they should be able to remove it [16:23:54] If user is just a crat and not an admin , then they can't [16:24:24] 03(mod) Write maintenance script to purge old IP data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51573 +comment (10b) [16:25:13] Reedy, ^ [16:25:35] Reedy merged the change for that bug this morning. I don't know if it's been deployed yet [16:25:37] yeah, the patch on that bug is wrong. Note how the 'bureaucrat' line got changed to sysop [16:25:50] I mean, this afternoon. looked at the wrong number [16:30:51] 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:32:06] 03(mod) Flood flag for sh wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52273 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:33:41] Kolega2357: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80226/ is for your issue [16:34:41] 03(mod) Flood flag for sh wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52273 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:35:03] wow, that was fast [16:40:59] 03(mod) Wrong URL encoding in Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53146 +easy; +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [16:43:08] is there a Python official API module for Mediawiki ? [16:46:14] 03(NEW) Disable recordfail on labs instances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53159 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [16:49:02] 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 +comment (10mheydari) [16:49:31] 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 (10mheydari) [16:55:08] 03(mod) express/connect version dependency issue in ParserService.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52840 +comment (10gwicke) [16:57:11] average: There are a few frameworks. [16:57:18] python-wikitools, pywikipedia, etc. [17:01:55] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Right-click in IE10 causes deletion of the selected content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50045 +comment (10Elitre) [17:04:57] 03(mod) Add Cameroon in French to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52030 +comment (10guillaume.goursat) [17:06:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: IE9/10 incompatibilities with saving process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49187 +comment (10Elitre) [17:06:42] 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:07:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: IE9/10 incompatibilities with saving process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49187 +comment (10elitre82) [17:07:59] Elsie: thanks [17:09:44] 03(mod) Parsoid: Percent-encode % in URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53146 summary (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:09:56] No problem. [17:13:44] 03(mod) Parsoid: Percent-encode % in URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53146 +comment (10kelson) [17:13:49] 03(mod) Style is not loaded in some PC's and some browsers. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53097 +comment (10aklapper) [17:15:59] hi sumanah sorry for being unpolitely deaf before :) [17:16:06] 03(mod) Parsoid: Percent-encode % in URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53146 +comment (10gwicke) [17:16:35] hi qgil! you were? I do not recall. :) asynchronous world we live in [17:17:11] 03(mod) inconsistent revision id and html content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46014 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [17:17:28] Nikerabbit, do you know how does translatewiki.net to send newsletters to registered users, and add to Preferences "Do not send me email newsletters"? [17:17:56] 03(mod) Make right-click, middle click and CTRL+click work on [[Special:Nearby]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53092 +comment (10Jon) [17:17:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Nearby [17:17:58] 03(mod) Special:Nearby should allow right-click without loading target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51647 +comment (10Jon) [17:19:18] hi MediaWikians, I'm trying to write an extension that finds internal links to the file namespace on a page and checks them against the categories that file is in [17:19:46] basically we need to put a copyright symbol next to links to files (and images) that are in the copyrighted category [17:20:13] the most tricky part of my trials is that we're stuck on 1.15 because of the client [17:20:20] Ouch. :-) [17:20:21] qgil: preference is in Translate extension I think, for actual details how to emails are send you should email siebrand [17:20:24] ewww [17:20:38] any suggestions on which parser hook I should be trying? [17:20:45] (I second the eew) [17:20:57] Linker.php should have some [17:21:03] Elsie: is it bad that I assumed that you'd come up with a new name? [17:21:08] good point [17:21:13] werdna: :-) [17:21:20] Nikerabbit, good to know if that it's true. We have that extension in mediawiki.org. Hmm... [17:21:48] 03(mod) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [17:22:07] we've got an extension mostly fleshed out, but the copyright symbol is showing up only sporadically [17:22:35] thanks for the reminder to look in linker [17:24:19] 03(NEW) pagelist.css not loading on Nearby desktop version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53160 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [17:26:03] 03(NEW) Infobox widget floats right in RTL Wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53161 trivial; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [17:26:53] 03(mod) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 +comment (10effeietsanders) [17:29:30] 03(mod) Captions in inline images aren't generated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:29:47] 03(mod) Captions in inline images aren't generated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52567 (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:29:48] 03(mod) Images: wikitext tables inside image captions are lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49942 (10Gabriel Wicke) [17:30:28] is it possible to identify edits from anonymous users in the revision table? [17:30:44] they all have rev_user=0 [17:33:05] 03(mod) Images: Inline image is missing alt attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48958 +comment (10gwicke) [17:34:16] 03(mod) Use of word "all" is confusing in watchlist design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51639 +comment (10jrobson) [17:35:29] lbenedix: rev_user_text [17:36:25] great [17:36:48] next question: is it possible to find out if someone was admin when he made an edit? [17:36:56] no [17:37:07] its a major problem with bots [17:37:23] you can guess [17:37:29] (since people want to know if edits/uploads were made with bots) [17:37:53] but if the wiki is old enough to lack the data or anyone has changed user rights in the DB, you can't, no [17:38:08] its about enwiki [17:38:16] yeah, no then [17:38:28] bots would have been the next question ;) [17:39:03] For example special:newfiles only does if uploader is "currently" a bot, as the info is not there (and also uses a really ugly query) [17:40:00] so its not possible when someone became bot/admin? [17:40:26] +"to find out" [17:40:49] an when he lost this status [17:47:28] 03(NEW) Adding Wikijunior and Cookbook namespaces to Armenian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53162 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [17:49:49] 03(mod) Adding Wikijunior and Cookbook namespaces to Armenian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53162 (10jrvezh) [17:53:57] 03(mod) SF don't update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53145 +comment (10ioannis_protonotarios) [17:54:19] 03(mod) Add Russia in Russian to the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53154 +comment (10stasielvova) [17:55:28] 03(NEW) Confirmation dialog when archiving enabled campaigns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53163 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; () [17:55:52] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS#August_28.2C_2013_-_Secure_log-in.2C_with_secure_browsing_and_editing_for_logged_in_users - date of changeover is now August 28, not today [18:02:56] * andre__ gets a cool drink. No DNS issues so far, and no HTTPS deployment either [18:04:04] hello there [18:04:07] hi slav [18:04:16] andre__: good idea [18:04:19] hi :) [18:04:37] i have some problems with maps extention on mediawiki [18:04:51] re-hi everybody :) [18:05:06] slav: what problem are you encountering? [18:05:25] with Google Maps/Editor's Map [18:05:35] what? [18:05:46] more specifically [18:07:16] I installed the google maps extention [18:07:47] its worked with googlemaps maps scripts [18:08:19]