[00:23:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Output MathJax rendering for Math tags instead of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51698  +comment (10gwicke)
[00:29:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: CE eats up syllables except a last syllable of a word in Korean IME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50631  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Whitespace corruption, HTML-like entities removed, and apparent DSR issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51304  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Duplicating text in template on unrelated edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50502  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Placing the cursor in a slug doesn't cause a contextChange event - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44083  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cannot move cursor backwards on ligature cluster on Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51596  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Backspace deletes combined character clusters together with diacritics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51472  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't copy/paste a reference or template unless you select text either side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49396  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Repeated insertion of multi-byte characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53012  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Draw shields using SVG polygons and getClientRect(s) for inline/block items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51202  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor "icon" can appear offscreen if the selected item starts offscreen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49922  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Saving fails silently for some blocked users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51999  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion nodes should re-evaluate their block/inline status on every update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49784  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Write newFromDocumentInsertion so editing document slices is simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52102  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: MW images shouldn't be able to take a link annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53151  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Blanking the page using Ctrl-A and Delete keys prevents further editing in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50947  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link input widget filters out redirects for target pages, but this logic is wrong for existing pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49502  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Convert save dialog to use ve.ui.Dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48566  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to one-way switch from VisualEditor into wikitext source editor mode without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50687  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: FlaggedRevs inserts its tabs in the midst of the edit and edit source tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52848  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Respect Parsoid's <base> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48915  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template gets removed without editing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52608  (10James Forrester)
[00:29:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor not moving past ग्र on left arrow key press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51846  (10James Forrester)
[00:31:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice "Preview all approved translations" feature is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53752  +comment (10spam)
[00:40:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki.Title: Extension should be included when asserting that title is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:40:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki.Title: Extension should be included when asserting that title is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[00:41:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to one-way switch from VisualEditor into wikitext source editor mode without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50687  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:41:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to one-way switch from VisualEditor into wikitext source editor mode without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50687  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[00:44:06] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Unwanted change in font-family of JS pages: monospace --> sans-serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53832 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[00:46:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Output MathJax rendering for Math tags instead of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51698  +comment (10gwicke)
[00:53:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't let autoconfirmed users see the result before voting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53622  +comment (10zoglun)
[00:58:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) LQT should warn the user if it is going to delete the edit window (and its contents!) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53833 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; ()
[00:59:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) LQT should warn the user if it is going to delete the edit window (and its contents!) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53833  (10Helder)
[00:59:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Prompt the user to confirm a page change while an LQT edit form is open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46040  (10Helder)
[01:04:04] <Betacommand>	 anyone able to help me troubleshoot gerrit with windows?
[01:09:36] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834 normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; ()
[01:10:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834   +accessibility (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF))
[01:19:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sorting keys for Russian Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52997  +comment (10This, that and the other)
[01:20:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sorting keys for Russian Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52997  +comment (10sam)
[01:24:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sorting keys for Russian Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52997  +comment (10at.light)
[01:32:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki.Title: Extension should be included when asserting that title is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  (10Krinkle)
[01:33:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki.Title: Extension should be included when asserting that title is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  (10Krinkle)
[01:33:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mw.Title cannot parse titles starting with a period. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51308  +comment (10Krinkle)
[01:33:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki.Title: Extension should be included when asserting that title is non-empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38081  +comment (10Krinkle)
[01:47:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow to change the order of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44678  +comment (10Sven Manguard)
[01:47:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10Adam Wight)
[02:18:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a PSR-4 autoloader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53835   +patch-need-review; summary; +comment (10Adam Wight)
[02:31:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a PSR-4 autoloader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53835  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[02:32:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create class broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53463  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:45:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ULS on Wikipedia:Teahouse looks awful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53831  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
[04:06:16] <legoktm>	  2013-01-06T07:27:12 Frosty (talk | contribs | block) blocked MoneySign (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1836-59-01T22:08:14 (account creation disabled) (You smell.) (unblock | change block)  <-- log entry throws a fatal depending on what your date & time preferences are
[04:06:26] <legoktm>	 #5 /var/www/mediawiki/core/languages/Language.php(1200): Language->getMonthName('59')
[04:07:19] <Elsie>	 Why is the block form so goddamn permissive?
[04:07:29] <Elsie>	 It's been this way for ages.
[04:07:37] <Isarra>	 Because we enjoy features.
[04:07:38] <Elsie>	 As though MediaWiki simply forgot about input validation.
[04:07:43] <Elsie>	 Just for one form.
[04:08:10] <Isarra>	 We trust admins.
[04:08:31] <Isarra>	 Hey, good news!
[04:08:34] <Isarra>	 It still works!
[04:08:42] <Isarra>	  2013-09-06T04:09:29 Lyrithya (talk | contribs | block) blocked MoneySign (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1971-10-26T17:14:00 (account creation disabled) (GWAR!)
[04:08:52] <Isarra>	 ...I probably just broke recentchanges for everyone.
[04:09:29] <Elsie>	 > Expiry time invalid.
[04:09:35] <Elsie>	 So it has some validation...
[04:10:09] <Isarra>	 Oh, nevermind, that was valid.
[04:10:09] <legoktm>	 We're on 1.21.1
[04:10:19] <legoktm>	 Times in the past shouldn't be valid >.>
[04:10:48] <Isarra>	 Pfft, they're plenty valid.
[04:10:53] <Isarra>	 They're as valid as fish!
[04:20:45] <Isarra>	 Anyone care to speculate how this happened?
[04:20:47] <Isarra>	 2011-03-12T02:37:39 Dr. Skullthumper (talk | block) blocked Puppy (talk | contribs) with an expiry time of --T:: (account creation disabled) (thats how much 1234567890 seconds is fucknuts) (unblock | change block)
[04:28:18] <Isarra>	 Apparently previously existing blocks of 2348.87345890411 years are now invalid.
[04:29:14] <legoktm>	 Isarra: File a bug I guess? that technically is a valid expiry time...
[04:30:28] <Isarra>	 It's not accepted as valid anymore.
[04:30:40] <Isarra>	 But it's already there.
[04:31:01] <legoktm>	 That's an upgrade issue, which is still a legit bug
[04:31:04] <Isarra>	 Oh.
[04:31:23] <Isarra>	 Where's bugzilla?
[04:31:45] <Isarra>	 Wait, my browser knows! It remembers!
[04:31:46] <legoktm>	 in the topic.
[04:31:52] <Isarra>	 It is?
[04:31:54] <Isarra>	 Where?
[04:32:57] <Isarra>	 No it isn't.
[04:33:39] <legoktm>	 > MediaWiki support | https://www.mediawiki.org | https://bugs.mediawiki.org <-- that one.
[05:18:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836 major; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[05:27:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ULS on Wikipedia:Teahouse looks awful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53831  (10Niklas Laxström)
[05:45:50] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Expose content namespaces in mw.config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53837 normal; MediaWiki: JavaScript; ()
[05:45:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) JavaScript (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2114  (10Danny B.)
[05:50:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) LQT should warn the user if it is going to delete the edit window (and its contents!) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53833  (10Nemo)
[06:37:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800  +comment (10jgerber)
[06:49:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't let autoconfirmed users see the result before voting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53622  +comment (10mail)
[06:50:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[06:50:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[06:55:01] <Rtdwivedi>	 Hi! Anyone attending the GNU 30th anniversary celebrations from 28-29 September at MIT?
[06:57:09] <Arpan>	 Hi
[06:57:56] <Arpan>	 Is this the support forum for mediawiki?
[06:59:24] <natbrown>	 Good morining everyone. What's the best way to get rid of the sidebar in mediawiki?
[07:00:20] <natbrown>	 Is there any way at all? Do we have to write a new skin?
[07:29:06] <Haffe>	 Hi, I have checked the FAQ, and googled, but I can't find any information on this. I want to generate machine description pages for computer that are described in a database automatically. Is this possible with mediawiki? 
[07:29:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Deletion request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838 normal; Wikimedia: Media storage; ()
[07:30:24] <saper>	 Haffe: some people are using a set of extensions called Wikidata for this; or some bot framework (like pywikipediabot) to programatically load wikitext, usually in a form of some templates
[07:30:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deletion request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838  (10Steinsplitter)
[07:32:56] <Haffe>	 saper: Ok, thank you.
[07:35:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deletion request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838  +comment (10bidgee-wiki)
[07:37:12] <saper>	 !semanticmediawiki | Haffe
[07:37:13] <wm-bot>	 Haffe: SemanticMediaWiki is an extension that lets you conenct wiki pages with semantic relations. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki> and <http://ontoworld.org>.
[07:37:21] <saper>	 !iss
[07:37:21] <wm-bot>	 There is no such key, you probably want to try: !allowoverride, !anglebrackets, !dismissablesitenotice, !domdocument, !filepermissions, !IE9, !list, !lists, !newusergroup, !packagefix, !phpinfo, !redlinks, !siwae, !tabcompletion, !templateproblems, !userapproval, 
[07:37:25] <saper>	 !hss
[07:37:25] <wm-bot>	 ZOMG!! http://bit.ly/2sYkfl
[08:10:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Extension:YetAnotherKeywords to de.wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49448  +comment (10fate)
[08:11:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deletion request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838  normal->major (10Steinsplitter)
[08:16:32] <Anarhist>	 hi, i'm trying to get the name of the logged in user from within a configuration file of the extension, but when i do '$wgUser->getName()' it screams that it's not an object
[08:16:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unwanted change in font-family of JS pages: monospace --> sans-serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53832  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[08:16:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting language to en-gb changes default edit-window font from monospaced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53734  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[08:16:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unwanted change in font-family of JS pages: monospace --> sans-serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53832  +comment (10matma.rex)
[08:17:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting language to en-gb changes default edit-window font from monospaced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53734  normal->major; +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[08:19:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow to change the order of statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44678  (10soulkeeper.wikipedia)
[08:23:40] <legoktm>	 Anarhist: uh, at what point are you calling $wgUser?
[08:23:55] <legoktm>	 unless its in an exension funciton, it probably hasn't been loaded yet
[08:24:25] <Anarhist>	 aha
[08:24:31] <Anarhist>	 that makes sense then
[08:25:21] <Anarhist>	 so i guess i'll set it to some magic value and then when the special page is loaded replace it
[08:28:38] <legoktm>	 er
[08:28:43] <legoktm>	 well
[08:28:55] <legoktm>	 if you're using a special page, just do $this->getUser()->getName()
[08:30:33] <Anarhist>	 wonderful, thanks a lot
[09:07:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Wikitext warning triggered without adding wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53661  +comment (10Chris McKenna)
[09:07:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikimarkup warning triggered on removing content even though no markup was added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51751  +comment (10Chris McKenna)
[09:07:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function parseParamString() on a non-object in SpecialUploadStash.php on line 137 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53820  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:09:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Wikimarkup warning triggered even though no markup was added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51751  summary; +comment (10Chris McKenna)
[09:10:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to SpamBlacklist::filter() must be an array, object given - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53821  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:13:28] <CosmicLogick>	 is there a way to prevent viewing in a namespace, for people not in a specific group? The wiki is read open otherwise
[09:13:40] <CosmicLogick>	 to anyone logged in
[09:13:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Wikitext warning not triggered by <references />, <i>, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53839 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; ()
[09:20:20] <legoktm>	 !cms | CosmicLogick 
[09:20:21] <wm-bot>	 CosmicLogick: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[09:21:43] <CosmicLogick>	 !access
[09:21:43] <wm-bot>	 For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[09:22:37] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Allowed memory size of 183500800 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2018670161 bytes). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53840 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[09:30:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PageCuration: curation toolbar appearing at the bottom of the screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49027  +comment (10aklapper)
[09:32:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Table breaks if you press return to create a new paragraph in the middle of a cell, but only if all cells are on one line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53819  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:32:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Campaigns 'title' key lets you mess with page layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53822  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:35:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scribunto should notify the installer if lua can't run because it isn't executable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52002  +comment (10aklapper)
[09:36:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove "proteins@msu.edu"'s (167.165.53.93) accountcreator right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53790  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[09:37:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove "proteins@msu.edu"'s (167.165.53.93) accountcreator right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53790  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[09:37:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CirrusSearch: When an article doesn't have a text match CirrusSearch's summary code is funky and only works for space delimited languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53724   +upstream (10Andre Klapper)
[09:37:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) inconsistent revision id and html content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46014  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[09:37:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wrong terms are highlighted / snippet does not contain search phrase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53529   +upstream (10Andre Klapper)
[09:39:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) inconsistent revision id and html content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46014  +comment (10hartman.wiki)
[09:40:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deletion request: "Error deleting file: The file is in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[09:40:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display HTML comments to the editor (and make them editable/creatable) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49603  +comment (10cmckenna)
[09:41:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:45:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Extension:YetAnotherKeywords to de.wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49448  +comment (10fate)
[09:48:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:48:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting language to en-gb changes default edit-window font from monospaced - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53734  +comment (10mormegil)
[09:54:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Campaigns: a <> in a string, gets turned into unicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53823  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:54:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in ApiQueryGadgets.php on line 58 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53829  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:55:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Expose content namespaces in mw.config - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53837  normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper)
[09:56:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:56:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443  (10Andre Klapper)
[09:59:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  (10christian)
[10:02:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:06:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) $wgSecureLogin fails to handle page links, non-SSL content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29986   +testme; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[10:10:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) populateSitesTable populates interwiki codes incorrectly for non-wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51876  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:11:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 'OutOfRangeException' with message 'Longitude needs to be between -180 and 180' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53391  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:12:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitelink groups to show in the sidebar should be configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52788  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:13:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Coordinates diffs are blank - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49404  +comment (10aklapper)
[10:15:36] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; ()
[10:16:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  (10christian)
[10:16:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  (10christian)
[10:16:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  (10christian)
[10:23:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitelink groups to show in the sidebar should be configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52788  (10denny vrandecic)
[10:23:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 'OutOfRangeException' with message 'Longitude needs to be between -180 and 180' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53391  (10denny vrandecic)
[10:30:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages in [[Special:Allpages]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7936  (10Waldir)
[10:30:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages in [[special:whatlinkshere]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7935  (10Waldir)
[10:31:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting language to anything other than "en" changes default edit-window font from monospaced to sans-serif - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53734  summary; +comment (10Helder)
[10:33:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Optionally exclude disambiguation pages from Special:Allpages and Special:Prefixindex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/9319  (10Waldir)
[10:37:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disambiguation pages should not be listed in Special:Lonelypages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3483  (10Waldir)
[10:37:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Don't list redirect pages on Special:Disambiguations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6651  (10Waldir)
[10:40:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sorting keys for Russian Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52997  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[10:44:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Exclude disambiguation pages in article count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39913  (10Waldir)
[10:47:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Distinguish disambiguation pages from normal articles cheaply in database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6754  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:47:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disambiguation pages should not be listed in Special:Lonelypages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3483  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:47:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Exclude disambiguation pages in article count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39913  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[10:54:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10Nemo)
[10:54:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GENDER (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30443  (10Nemo)
[10:54:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improve the wording of gender selection option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31816  (10Nemo)
[10:54:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wording of gender question in English is unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53311  (10Nemo)
[11:00:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use transparent images for hiero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31736  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:02:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wording of "unknown gender" option in English is unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53311  summary (10Nemo)
[11:03:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use transparent images for hiero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31736  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[11:04:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Fields shown as required, even when they are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53842 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; ()
[11:06:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fields shown as required, even when they are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53842  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:06:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fields shown as required, even when they are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53842  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[11:14:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fields shown as required, even when they are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53842  +comment (10Basvb)
[11:15:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[11:17:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) remove links which are Navebox Transclusion from Special:Disambiguations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51123  +comment (10Helder)
[11:17:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide a way to exclude certain links to disambiguation pages from [[Special:DisambiguationPageLinks]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51110  +comment (10Helder)
[11:22:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook and RTL: ULS form (the one opened by the keyboard icon) is out of screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52154  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[11:24:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wording of "unknown gender" option in English is unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53311  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:24:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wording of "unknown gender" option in English is unclear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53311  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[11:24:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:25:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[11:33:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Forbid null precision and globe on coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53796  summary (10denny vrandecic)
[11:34:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Forbid null precision and globe on coordinates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53796  +comment (10denny.vrandecic)
[11:52:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Date cannot be set to German month "M�rz" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53843 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[11:56:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Date cannot be set to German month "M�rz" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53843  +comment (10krabina)
[12:20:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CirrusSearch's phrase suggest can return phrases that would be filtered out of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53534   +upstream (10Nik Everett)
[12:22:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search does not return files with search terms in metadata or filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52948   +upstream (10Nik Everett)
[12:22:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Corrected words aren't bolded in suggestions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52286   +upstream (10Nik Everett)
[12:23:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) incorrect results for 'nobel prize' search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52860   +upstream (10Nik Everett)
[12:24:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CirrusSearch's phrase suggest can return phrases that would be filtered out of search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53534  (10Nik Everett)
[12:24:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fields shown as required, even when they are not - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53842  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[12:24:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Non-required custom field (ID) shows up as required field while uploading in WLM campaign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53654  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[12:25:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Non-required custom field (ID) shows up as required field while uploading in WLM campaign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53654  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:25:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Non-required custom field (ID) shows up as required field while uploading in WLM campaign - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53654  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[12:32:10] <roninn>	 would be cool to have a command line tool to add or modify an article in mediawiki, do you know if there is something like this already out?
[12:36:07] <liangent>	 roninn: as a client or on server?
[12:37:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate current client-repo selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53844 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:37:29] <Reedy>	 liangent: There's ways for both, so it doesn't matter much ;)
[12:38:11] <liangent>	 Reedy: but answers are different
[12:38:16] <liangent>	 maybe I can simply provide both
[12:38:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate current statement selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53845 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:38:24] <Reedy>	 No it isn't
[12:38:29] <Reedy>	 "do you know if there is something like this already out?"
[12:38:33] <Reedy>	 The answer is yes in both cases
[12:38:54] <liangent>	 Reedy: ah of course "yes" are the same
[12:39:14] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate current special-page selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53846 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:39:32] <liangent>	 "maybe I can simply provide" steps to do so for both cases
[12:39:50] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Wikimedia Australia mailing list creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53847 enhancement; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; ()
[12:39:59] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate current entity selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53848 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:40:02] <liangent>	 Reedy: a simple "yes" is not so helpful...
[12:40:08] <Reedy>	 I know
[12:40:12] <Reedy>	 But it answers the question
[12:40:42] <liangent>	 :)
[12:41:14] <roninn>	 liangent, as a client
[12:41:28] <roninn>	 or even on the server machine
[12:41:32] <roninn>	 since I have my own mediawiki
[12:41:43] <roninn>	 on my own work laptop
[12:41:44] <roninn>	 :D
[12:41:55] <roninn>	 (mediawiki as a notebook)
[12:42:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate current selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53849 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:44:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[12:45:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53849  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:45:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current client-repo selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53844  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:45:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current statement selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53845  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:45:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current special-page selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53846  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:45:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current entity selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53848  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:47:23] <liangent>	 roninn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pywikibot as a client (it's not just for "edit", find the best script in it yourself)
[12:47:47] <liangent>	 roninn: on server, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php
[12:48:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create Wikivoyage Polish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44414  +comment (10marcin.cieslak)
[12:49:25] <roninn>	 thanks liangent, I love you :)
[12:49:34] <roninn>	 this is amazing
[12:50:22] <rickyb98>	 hello! :)
[12:52:14] <roninn>	 good evening rickyb98 
[12:52:30] <rickyb98>	 :)
[12:54:40] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Switch to new CI environment for selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53850 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[12:55:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Switch to new CI environment for selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53850  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:55:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53849  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[12:59:19] <petan>	 !htmllogs is http://tools.wmflabs.org/wm-bot/logs/index.php?display=%23mediawiki
[12:59:19] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[13:01:00] <MatmaRex>	 petan: sexy
[13:01:07] <petan>	 :o
[13:01:20] <petan>	 going to add more options soon + some search
[13:02:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate current entity selenium tests to cucumber - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53848  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[13:06:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  +comment (10marcin.cieslak)
[13:07:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] Installer: MySQL Fatal Error "1283: Column 'si_title' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index" for collation set to "binary" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47191  +comment (10aklapper)
[13:11:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikimedia Australia mailing list creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53847  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
[13:12:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enhanced Recent Changes mechanism missing the old "changesListRecentChangesLine" hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53851 minor; MediaWiki: Recent changes; ()
[13:12:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced Recent Changes mechanism missing the old "OldChangesListRecentChangesLine" hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53851  summary (10Simon White - Surevine Ltd)
[13:13:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Switch to new CI environment for selenium tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53850  (10tobias.gritschacher)
[13:19:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikimedia Australia mailing list creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53847  +comment (10cro0016)
[13:23:58] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:PagesWithProp should use &continue= style paging instead of &offset= - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53852 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; ()
[13:24:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special:PagesWithProp should use &continue=<last primary key> style paging instead of &offset=<last count> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53852  summary (10Liangent)
[13:33:18] <rickyb98>	 !rt
[13:33:18] <wm-bot>	 https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=$1
[13:33:40] <rickyb98>	 what is rt.wikimedia? o.O wasn't looking for that
[13:35:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced Recent Changes mechanism missing the old "OldChangesListRecentChangesLine" hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53851  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[13:35:41] <MatmaRex>	 rickyb98: internal issue tracker used by the operations team
[13:35:50] <MatmaRex>	 rickyb98: what were you looking for? :) maybe !rl?
[13:35:52] <MatmaRex>	 !rl
[13:35:52] <wm-bot>	 ResourceLoader is the delivery system for JavaScript/CSS in MediaWiki. First released in MediaWiki 1.17. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers
[13:35:54] <rickyb98>	 nope
[13:35:59] <rickyb98>	 in another network
[13:36:10] <rickyb98>	 you can do !rt and chanserv says *CLICK*
[13:36:11] <rickyb98>	 xD
[13:36:17] <rickyb98>	 thought i could do it to
[13:36:19] <MatmaRex>	 haha, okay
[13:36:32] <rickyb98>	 but now im curious
[13:36:34] <rickyb98>	 what is rt?
[13:36:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[13:37:19] <MatmaRex>	 rickyb98: internal issue tracker used by the operations team, a little like bugzilla, but mostly private
[13:37:32] <rickyb98>	 ohh understood
[13:37:33] <rickyb98>	 :)
[13:55:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement a factory/registry infrastructure for snak and value formatters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53745  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:00:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use formatter for claim diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46366  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:00:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use formatter for claim diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46366  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[14:00:54] <wibby>	 Hi, I've been trying to attach some properties (i. e. metadata) to an article using ParserOutput->setProperty but so far I was unsuccessful. I think I'm just not understanding it right; does one set these properties when a page is being displayed? Or saved? Doc: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_props_table 
[14:02:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement a factory/registry infrastructure for snak and value formatters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53745  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:04:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10dr.trigon)
[14:08:29] <liangent>	 wibby: should be "saved" I guess
[14:16:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Full support for wikibase edits in enhanced changes format ("Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" [usenewrc]) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44874  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:16:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced Recent Changes mechanism missing the old "OldChangesListRecentChangesLine" hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53851  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[14:20:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced Recent Changes mechanism missing the old "OldChangesListRecentChangesLine" hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53851  (10Nemo)
[14:20:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Clean up the code in ChangesList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46394  (10Nemo)
[14:24:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Marathi/Devnagari: Save button does not get enabled for same or lesser length change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53788  +comment (10mahitgar)
[14:25:39] <wibby>	 liangent: one would think. but I can't get it to work
[14:26:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) template edit icon attaches to the wrong object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51548  +comment (10elitre82)
[14:27:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) template edit icon attaches to the wrong object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51548  +comment (10Elitre)
[14:34:31] <wibby>	 liangent: indeed, the properties are set in the LinksUpdate class which does its thing when an article is being saved
[14:40:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: replacing an image results in deleting it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53853 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[14:40:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Get rid of startUp() function in mediawiki.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37894  +comment (10roopak)
[14:45:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: replacing an image results in no image at all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53853  summary (10Elitre)
[14:47:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scribunto should notify the installer if lua can't run because it isn't executable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52002  +comment (10thomasmulhall410)
[14:50:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Log of delete should have a summary with the label as an autocomment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38759  normal->15enhancement (10denny vrandecic)
[14:51:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Interplay of category system and Wikibase items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38966  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[14:52:07] <solidoodlesuppor>	 Is it possible to migrate wikidot to mediawiki?
[14:58:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special character capital A with a circle on top is not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38166  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[14:58:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) if user can't edit, report reasons for JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39196  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:59:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Consider the speed of the autogrowing alias field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40220  (10denny vrandecic)
[14:59:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API upload warning exists-normalized returns wrong file (the file that is uploaded, not the file that exists) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52699  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:59:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improve selection of sites in ItemByTitle and ItemView - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40203  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:00:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scribunto should notify the installer if lua can't run because it isn't executable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52002  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:01:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scribunto should notify the installer if lua can't run because it isn't executable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52002  +comment (10bjorsch)
[15:02:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API upload warning exists-normalized returns wrong file (the file that is uploaded, not the file that exists) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52699  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[15:02:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide replacement for ShowRawCssJs hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40853  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:02:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) GeoCoordinateValue is too simple - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40881  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:03:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Utils::insertDefaultSites sometimes fails when using https - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40701  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:04:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a data-argument to the Special:CreateEntity that allow more complex entities to be created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41681  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:11:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Hook needed for Linker::LinkText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53854 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[15:16:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix tests with hardcoded entity ids - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41892  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:16:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Visual editor on test client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42981  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:16:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Visual editor on test repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42980  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:17:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) run core unit tests on internal test machine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40724  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[15:18:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show terms in search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41890  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:20:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] styling of references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44539  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:22:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [statements-ui] opening jQuery.wikibase.snakview's snak type selector menu a 2nd time will show it in the wrong position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44533  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:24:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improve property search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44773  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:24:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit not allowed site links in use (while editing description) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44830  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:29:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) $wgSecureLogin fails to handle page links, non-SSL content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29986  -testme ; +comment (10Tyler Romeo)
[15:29:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ULS keyboard button lingers after saving description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44897  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:31:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Private wikis need to override "wikimedia-copyright" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45767  +comment (10krenair)
[15:31:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) searchmenu-new message is shown twice when resultset is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44944  (10denny vrandecic)
[15:32:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; ()
[15:32:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:34:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install solr on repo and client on test system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45154  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[15:35:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make properties work with Solr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45705  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[15:35:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Prepare solr deployment on wikidata.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45158  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[15:36:17] <wibby>	 Hi, I've been trying to attach some properties (i. e. metadata) to an article using ParserOutput->setProperty but so far I was unsuccessful. I think I'm just not understanding it right; does anybody have experience with that? Doc: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_props_table 
[15:39:00] <sumanah>	 wibby: I don't know how to help you, but I wish you luck 
[15:39:28] <wibby>	 sumanah: thanks (: it's getting annoying
[15:45:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VisualEditor: weird behavior with double square brackets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53856 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[15:48:48] <sumanah>	 wibby: if no one in here knows how to help you, you could try the mediawiki-l list
[15:48:51] <sumanah>	 !lists | wibby 
[15:48:51] <wm-bot>	 wibby: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[15:49:18] <wibby>	 Thanks!
[15:50:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Table breaks if you press return to create a new paragraph in the middle of a cell, but only if all cells are on one line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53819  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[15:51:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855  normal->15enhancement;  +shellpolicy; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[15:56:26] <liangent>	 wibby: where did you setProperty ?
[15:57:13] <liangent>	 I guess you need to setProperty for all parser runs where linksupdate will be done
[15:57:19] <liangent>	 or to be safe, all parser runs
[15:57:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[15:59:06] <wibby>	 liangent: I tried numerous hooks (which is tedious). Part of the problem is also getting the ParserOutput instance, which in some hooks is impossible to get.. From what I can see, LinksUpdate::doUpdate() is run only once.
[15:59:07] <sumanah>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Sharihareswara_%28WMF%29#Wikivoyage:_Dynamic_maps_not_showing_anymore_because_no_HTTPS_certificate andre__ hey, could you take a look at this?
[15:59:43] <wibby>	 liangent: how do I know when a parser is being run? Is there a hook for that?
[16:00:04] <andre__>	 sumanah, getting a certificate sounds like ops territory. I'll drop an RT ticket
[16:00:05] <liangent>	 wibby: I'm picking a random one: have you tried ParserAfterParse?
[16:00:11] <sumanah>	 thank you!
[16:00:36] <andre__>	 on the other hand, hosting it on Labs might be cleaner...
[16:01:34] <wibby>	 liangent: not yet. that hook is completely undocumented...
[16:02:24] <wibby>	 well not compeltely
[16:02:29] <liangent>	 wibby: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ParserAfterParse
[16:02:59] <wibby>	 err, yeah. i ctrl-F'd wrong somehow..
[16:03:14] <sumanah>	 I am currently archiving a bunch of etherpads from etherpad.wmflabs.org onto mediawiki.org , because etherpad.wmflabs.org is going permanently down in a few hours
[16:03:54] <andre__>	 sumanah: looking at https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Mey2008#PoiMap2.2C_https_and_Firefox_23 I'm not convinced that it would actually help as a number of servers offer tiles only under HTTP. Kind of thinking if waiting for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33980 would help
[16:03:56] <andre__>	 I'll comment there...
[16:04:28] <sumanah>	 andre__: thanks, yeah, can I leave this situation to you to help guide? :-)
[16:04:35] <andre__>	 aight!
[16:05:32] <sumanah>	 thank you andre__ 
[16:05:40] * sumanah  is archiving many, many Etherpads :)

[16:06:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10marc)
[16:07:06] <wibby>	 liangent: that hook is somewhat problematic as it only provides the parser object, from which, it seems, it is not possible to find out the namespace of the article
[16:07:30] <liangent>	 wibby: $parser->getTitle()->getNamespace()
[16:07:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:07:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[16:07:54] <wibby>	 liangent: ah. sorry, I'm new to this (:
[16:08:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:12:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10C. Scott Ananian)
[16:12:33] <wibby>	 liangent: it works now! wow! that took me a whole day! (: thanks. ugh!
[16:19:26] <sumanah>	 thank you liangent!
[16:20:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IndexPager::buildQueryInfo (contributions page unfiltered) query needs tuning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45619  +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[16:22:20] <valhallasw>	 Hi sumanah!
[16:22:29] <valhallasw>	 Very nice news one the hacker school (well, news, I'm just a bit slow ;-))
[16:23:12] <sumanah>	 valhallasw: thank you! it's still new and shiny and exciting to me :D
[16:24:05] <valhallasw>	 Would you also be interested in data analysis with python? I can send you the course documents we use for our first year university physics students if you're interested.
[16:25:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) auto-linking to gerrit commits is too aggressive for dates such as 20130101 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51720  +comment (10aklapper)
[16:25:54] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: Congratulations!
[16:26:43] <sumanah>	 thank you Rtdwivedi! and you and valhallasw should think about applying for the next round....
[16:27:02] <sumanah>	 valhallasw: yeah, sure! I don't know whether I'll end up using it (only 3 months after all), but I am interested!
[16:27:14] <Rtdwivedi>	 FSF just sponsored a part of my travel to GNU 30th anniversary celebrations at MIT!
[16:27:26] <valhallasw>	 Oooh! Nice :-)
[16:27:32] <sumanah>	 Wow! Cool! Rtdwivedi if you have a chance to swing by New York City on that trip, please do
[16:28:09] <Rtdwivedi>	 I would love to!
[16:29:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Preserve link hash in revision links inside BugZilla comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28765  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[16:29:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Revision links in BugZilla comments should not be linked half-way words. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29039  +comment (10aklapper)
[16:29:47] <Rtdwivedi>	 sumanah: Do you live in New York?
[16:31:19] <guest01189998819>	 Hello, is it possible to edit the printable version of the page so that it only displays the article text and nothing else?
[16:33:38] <sumanah>	 Rtdwivedi: yes, I do
[16:33:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Markers: File derived from query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53857 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticMaps; ()
[16:34:14] <guest01189998819>	 Hello, is it possible to edit the printable version of the page so that it only displays the article text and nothing else?
[16:34:22] <sumanah>	 guest01189998819: hi! yes, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CSS
[16:34:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikilinks containing dollar sign $ are not linked on Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21984  +comment (10aklapper)
[16:34:28] <sumanah>	 "To change the way MediaWiki pages print, you put CSS into MediaWiki:Print.css on your wiki."
[16:35:04] <sumanah>	 btw, guest01189998819, hello! I'm Sumana Harihareswara, and I work at the Wikimedia Foundation and help volunteers. 
[16:35:29] <guest01189998819>	 Okay, but can I also use that to remove header etc?
[16:35:55] <sumanah>	 good luck guest01189998819!
[16:38:33] <valhallasw>	 guest01189998819: yes, that should be possible. Basically, set everything to display:none except for the page text
[16:39:24] <marktraceur>	 guest01189998819: Headers, e.g., would go "h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { display: none; }"
[16:43:46] <guest01189998819>	 thank you.
[16:43:53] <guest01189998819>	 was of great help
[16:56:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikilinks containing dollar sign $ are not linked on Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21984  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[17:05:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Guided Tour popup in wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53858 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; ()
[17:07:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Selecting file to upload no longer populates "Destination filename" or shows thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53859 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; ()
[17:16:15] <physikerwelt>	 is someone around from the ops-team arround who can build debian packages... I'd like to get operations/debs/LaTeXML to apt.wikimedia.org
[17:17:27] <rickyb98>	 ey
[17:17:31] <rickyb98>	 oops sorry
[17:18:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) License shouldn't be hardcoded in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53595  +comment (10rkaldari)
[17:20:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deletion request: "Error deleting file: The file is in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838  +comment (10INeverCry)
[17:21:54] <aboSamoor>	 is there a way to process batches of articles through parsoid? I am trying to speed up parsing
[17:29:10] <guest0118>	 Hello, my wiki site is still under construction.. there are some in-progress pages that I do not with to release yet, my wiki is currently viewable my registered members only (registation closed); is it possible to whitelist some pages, so that guest would see them?
[17:29:41] <guest0118>	 do not wish*; viewable by*
[17:30:21] <gwicke>	 liangent: ping
[17:31:31] <guest0118>	 anybody?
[17:31:33] <marktraceur>	 guest0118: You could make a Draft: namespace and restrict viewing it to adminss or something
[17:31:35] <liangent>	 gwicke: 
[17:31:43] <marktraceur>	 Or registered users maybe
[17:31:54] <gwicke>	 liangent: can property labels contain wikitext?
[17:32:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Review LaTeXML branch of Extension:Math for deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43222  +comment (10physik)
[17:32:05] <gwicke>	 as in not just pure text, but links etc
[17:32:11] <guest0118>	 what do you mean marktraceur?
[17:32:20] <liangent>	 gwicke: no they're escaped on view, everywhere
[17:32:25] <marktraceur>	 !namespace | guest0118
[17:32:25] <wm-bot>	 guest0118: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces for user help and documentation, and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace for administration. For adding namespaces, see !extranamespace
[17:32:36] <marktraceur>	 !extranamespace | guest0118
[17:32:36] <wm-bot>	 guest0118: To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces>. $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces.
[17:32:41] <guest0118>	 okay, i will check that ouy
[17:32:42] <guest0118>	 out*
[17:32:53] <gwicke>	 liangent: escaped on view = are forced to be plain text?
[17:33:03] <liangent>	 gwicke: yeah
[17:33:08] <gwicke>	 ok, great
[17:33:32] <gwicke>	 liangent: was wondering if wfEscapeWikitext was too aggressive, but for pure text it makes sense
[17:34:50] <liangent>	 gwicke: actually wfEscapeWikitext is not enough for language conversion
[17:35:02] <liangent>	 but there's no obvious way to property escape them
[17:35:23] <liangent>	 *properly
[17:36:07] <gwicke>	 liangent: the special chars are [:;}] I guess?
[17:36:45] <liangent>	 gwicke: yep but their escaped form still contain a ';'
[17:37:11] <gwicke>	 liangent: you can entity-escape them
[17:37:12] <Isarra>	 I need to report a bug. That mediawiki is stupid. 
[17:37:15] <gwicke>	 using HTML entities
[17:37:21] <Isarra>	 Does that bug exist already?
[17:37:39] <liangent>	 gwicke: html entities are &#xx; right?
[17:37:44] <liangent>	 which end with ';'
[17:38:04] <Betacommand>	 anyone able to help me troubleshoot git-review on windows>
[17:38:16] <gwicke>	 liangent: ah yes, good point ;)
[17:38:46] <liangent>	 gwicke: the only way to properly to prevent parsing it to insert strip items
[17:39:02] <gwicke>	 liangent: the variant converter should probably disregard semicolons in entities then
[17:40:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Object of class Blob could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50235  +comment (10physik)
[17:41:33] <gwicke>	 liangent: ; as an entity would be &#3b;
[17:42:57] <liangent>	 gwicke: the current converter is just regex-splitting strings
[17:43:06] <guest233>	 Hey, I'm currently editing the Print.css file, but for some reason I cannot set the body background-color propertie, any ideas?
[17:43:19] <liangent>	 should be &#x3b; otherwise it's decimal
[17:43:36] <gwicke>	 liangent: yup re &#x3b;
[17:43:50] <liangent>	 guest233: some browsers refuse to print background colors at least...
[17:43:52] <gwicke>	 the regexp could have a negative look-behind I think
[17:44:37] <guest233>	 The thing is.. I want to set the bg-color to transparent, so that I could iframe it on any coloured background
[17:44:55] <liangent>	 gwicke: LanguageConverter::getVarSeparatorPattern()
[17:44:59] <liangent>	 patches welcome :)
[17:46:20] <gwicke>	 liangent: maybe something like (?<!&[#a-zA-Z0-9]+);
[17:47:58] <guest233>	 any help?
[17:48:16] <Dragonfly6-7>	 have there been any recent changes in mediawiki which might explain why ampersands in filenames are breakingt?
[17:48:54] <liangent>	 guest233: did you set allowtransparency="true" on iframe?
[17:49:01] <guest233>	 yes
[17:49:07] <guest233>	 it still displays white bg
[17:51:09] <marktraceur>	 Dragonfly6-7: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Something_something_%26_something_else seems fine to me
[17:51:23] <marktraceur>	 Oh, filenames, sorry
[17:51:35] <guest233>	 marktraceur: any ideas?
[17:52:14] <Vulpix>	 the topic of this channel needs updating :O
[17:52:19] <liangent>	 gwicke: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82887 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83112/
[17:52:23] <marktraceur>	 guest233: You can't iframe something with a transparent background and have the page behind it appear. iframes don't work that way.
[17:52:34] <marktraceur>	 It would be a _massive_ security issue.
[17:52:58] <Dragonfly6-7>	 marktraceur - could you join #wikimedia-tech for a few minutes?
[17:53:31] <marktraceur>	 I'm already there
[17:54:50] <liangent>	 gwicke:  17:53:17      [exec] preg_split(): Compilation failed: lookbehind assertion is not fixed length at offset 18
[17:55:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10jared.zimmerman)
[17:56:19] <gwicke>	 liangent: hm, then splitting on ';' and manually checking if that is preceded by an entity might be necessary
[17:56:53] <gwicke>	 especially named entities can be any length
[17:59:50] <liangent>	 gwicke: eh without converter fix, escaping semicolons doesn't make sense
[17:59:58] <liangent>	 it does nothing helpful
[18:00:11] <guest233>	 can I set print.css individually on articles?
[18:01:17] <Vulpix>	 guest233: yes, every page has a unique class name applied to the body element. Use it in your selector so it only affects that page
[18:01:30] <guest233>	 thank you
[18:01:48] <Vulpix>	 so basically, you won't have a print.css per page, but you can code on the general print.css specific rules for pages
[18:06:07] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: hi
[18:06:12] <Wikinaut>	 time for a chat?
[18:06:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834  +comment (10federicoleva)
[18:07:05] <Ryan_Lane>	 Wikinaut: howdy. I haven't had a chance to try the change
[18:07:07] <Ryan_Lane>	 I may today
[18:08:01] <Wikinaut>	 here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81629/5/SpecialOpenIDCreateAccountByMail.body.php is something wrong
[18:08:07] <Wikinaut>	 perhaps the context
[18:08:39] <Wikinaut>	 when the admin comes to the page and defines a new account,
[18:08:50] <Wikinaut>	 the page returns with "You are already logged in"
[18:09:01] <Wikinaut>	 so I programmed something in a wrong way
[18:09:04] <Wikinaut>	 but what?
[18:09:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[18:09:51] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: I am *pretty* sure, that it takes you only some minutes to bring *me* onto the right track
[18:10:06] <Ryan_Lane>	 heh. well, maybe
[18:10:18] <Wikinaut>	 I'll code the rest. Need only to know what's wrong in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81629/5/SpecialOpenIDCreateAccountByMail.body.php
[18:10:22] <Ryan_Lane>	 mediawiki dev isn't my strongest skillset
[18:10:27] * Ryan_Lane  nods

[18:10:29] <Wikinaut>	 ?
[18:10:35] * Ryan_Lane  does ops

[18:10:35] <Wikinaut>	 LOL
[18:10:46] <Wikinaut>	 whom to contact for this question?
[18:11:01] <Wikinaut>	 and who is in now ?
[18:11:10] <Wikinaut>	 (timezone issues....)
[18:11:21] <Wikinaut>	 Berlin 06.09.2013 20:11 local time (20130906181120 UTC)
[18:16:07] <Ryan_Lane>	 Wikinaut: do you use git-review on windows?
[18:16:12] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Echo: Status change : incomplete "learn more" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53860 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; ()
[18:16:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Echo: Status change : incomplete "learn more" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53860  normal->15enhancement (10Ltrlg)
[18:16:30] <Wikinaut>	 No. on Linux
[18:16:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 ah. ok
[18:16:44] <Wikinaut>	 My editor is Notepad++ on Windows
[18:16:54] <Ryan_Lane>	 I know you use windows. someone else wanted to know about git-review on windows
[18:17:03] <Wikinaut>	 but my code and repo-clones are on clean Linux servers
[18:17:19] <cscott>	 there's an emacs port for windows.  why would anyone voluntarily use notepad?
[18:17:21] * cscott  hides

[18:17:24] <Wikinaut>	 and then I use WinSCP and PuTTY to connect
[18:17:29] <Wikinaut>	 to that Linux box
[18:17:36] <Reedy>	 cscott: Notepad ++ !=  Notepad
[18:17:39] <marktraceur>	 cscott: Notepad++! It's one better!
[18:17:40] <Wikinaut>	 will change this soon in the view of the NSA
[18:18:03] <cscott>	 sadly, SSH was explicitly called out as exploitable in the lastest NSA docs.
[18:18:24] <Wikinaut>	 (not going into this dicussion now... Ask Bruce Schneier)
[18:18:35] <cscott>	 Wikinaut: about notepad?
[18:18:43] <Wikinaut>	 LOL
[18:19:25] <Wikinaut>	 BTW, notepad++ had an issue in 2012. The server contained code with an exploit
[18:19:25] <cscott>	 incidentally, it is probably specific PRNGs which are exploitable, not SSH in general.  But it always pays to be paranoid, I guess.
[18:19:49] <Wikinaut>	 cscott: yes. Weak randoms...
[18:19:58] <cscott>	 eg http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/10189/who-uses-dual-ec-drbg and the old debian PRNG bug.
[18:20:09] <marktraceur>	 cscott: If the NSA wants to listen to my IRC and email, they don't have to crack SSH to do it. I'll keep on keeping on, I think.
[18:20:41] <cscott>	 also I expect they've compromised verisign and probably have a collection of SSL MiM attacks they can use, if the target is high value.
[18:21:05] <Wikinaut>	 uh
[18:21:19] <cscott>	 marktraceur: i'm old enough to have old used telnet for everything.  so ssh is definitely an improvement, even if the keygen is dodgy. ;)
[18:21:36] <Betacommand>	 cscott: Ive got a custom encryption program for secure communications
[18:21:46] <cscott>	 Betacommand: oh, i'm sure *that's* secure.
[18:22:05] <Wikinaut>	 here's my php code https://github.com/Wikinaut/MySimpleCertificateViewer for a certificate viewer in PHP
[18:22:11] <Betacommand>	 cscott: it is as I programmed it
[18:22:30] <cscott>	 you're making my point.
[18:22:53] <Reedy>	 First rule of encryption; don't write your own encryption
[18:22:57] * cscott  wonders if Betacommand has his own C library implementation he uses.

[18:23:13] <cscott>	 Reedy++
[18:23:15] <Betacommand>	 cscott: My day job is a programmer
[18:23:41] <cscott>	 keep digging that hole.
[18:24:16] <Betacommand>	 cscott: its about as secure as possible with current technology
[18:24:32] <cscott>	 i will agree that it's as secure as possible for something you wrote yourself.
[18:24:58] <marktraceur>	 cscott: Did You Know (tm) that I help run a telnet nethack server?
[18:25:32] <cscott>	 marktraceur: i'm appalled at your careless disregard for security. ;)
[18:25:33] <marktraceur>	 "help" being used lightly here, but still
[18:25:40] <marktraceur>	 cscott: Well, it's meant to be open.
[18:25:44] <cscott>	 won't someone think of the hacks?
[18:25:45] <Betacommand>	 cscott: without knowing what I can you you insult my skills?
[18:26:08] <cscott>	 Betacommand: you told me yourself you are a programmer.  you haven't mentioned anything about a degree in cryptography.
[18:26:12] <marktraceur>	 If they do it's fine
[18:27:24] <greg-g>	 Betacommand: has it been reviewed by someone not you? Is the software open so others can review it freely?
[18:27:32] <Betacommand>	 greg-g: no
[18:27:36] <greg-g>	 without at least those two things, any assumption of security is just that, an assumption
[18:27:47] <Betacommand>	 greg-g: Not really
[18:27:59] <cscott>	 Betacommand: I'm certainly not meaning to insult you. I'm just reciting common knowledge about the difficulty of properly implementing secure systems.
[18:28:30] <Betacommand>	 given its procedures and practices unless you have a key that I give you there isnt any way to break the system
[18:28:45] <cscott>	 Betacommand: i learned this the hard way when I took a crypto class -- with some classmates who were much smarter than me, at least on the crypto side.  my final project was demolished quite neatly by david wagner.  despite being "state of the art" at the time.
[18:29:10] <cscott>	 there are lots of ways to break crypto.  attackers rarely enter through the front door.
[18:29:22] <apergos>	 even if the algorithms are rock solid, implementation is hard
[18:29:29] <cscott>	 and most interesting attacks are very subtle.
[18:29:31] <sumanah>	 the line I've heard is "it's very easy for anyone to create a system that s/he cannot break" :)
[18:30:01] <Betacommand>	 Ive spent the better part of 8 years getting this developed
[18:30:04] <apergos>	 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html
[18:30:13] <cscott>	 sumanah: that's what I meant when I agreed with Betacommand that "i will agree that it's as secure as possible for something you wrote yourself."
[18:30:36] <cscott>	 i doubt there's any obvious flaw in it.  that doesn't mean that I'd use it, or recommend it to others.
[18:30:43] <greg-g>	 Betacommand: would you be willing to share the software with the world publicly?
[18:31:07] * cscott  reflects that this isn't really on-topic for the channel.

[18:31:13] <apergos>	 there is just no way I will trust closed source for something like this.  *especially* not after yesterday's news
[18:31:20] <apergos>	 true
[18:31:35] <Reedy>	 It's not like anyone else is talking or asking questions ;)
[18:31:46] <greg-g>	 they may think we're all crazy instead :)
[18:31:50] <cscott>	 apergos: there are an impressive number of open source implementations listed at http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/10189/who-uses-dual-ec-drbg
[18:31:51] <apergos>	 if someone has something on topic we can shut up
[18:31:55] <sumanah>	 I do!
[18:31:59] <sumanah>	 PDF support
[18:32:04] <Reedy>	 MediaWiki sucks
[18:32:10] <cscott>	 i want better i18n!
[18:32:17] * Reedy  pets cscott

[18:32:19] <sumanah>	 I'm about to put together the resources for PDF-related activity for Wed. next week
[18:32:19] <cscott>	 anyone want to talk about -{...}- parsing with me?
[18:32:24] <marktraceur>	 What's all this talking? I want less documentation.
[18:32:31] <Vulpix>	 even wikibugs has shut up to let us read this interesting conversation :)
[18:32:35] <Betacommand>	 greg-g: publishing the code defeats part of how it works
[18:32:47] <apergos>	 I want Extension:ExpandTemplates to take a 'recurse=no' argument
[18:32:51] * cscott  bites his tongue

[18:33:08] <Reedy>	 Yay, security through obscurity
[18:33:17] <apergos>	 which would cause it not to expand any templates called by the template but to display the template code with all parameters, parserfunctions and magic words evaluated
[18:33:39] <apergos>	 any strong algorithm can be publically inspected
[18:33:45] <marktraceur>	 Betacommand: Coming on Freenode and bragging about a nonfree crypto system is probably not an exercise of your best judgment. :)
[18:33:57] <greg-g>	 Betacommand: then it doesn't work
[18:33:57] <sumanah>	 there's a bunch of interest in thoroughly fixing how we do PDF rendering, some WMF engineers have this-sounds-fun energy to do that, and we have some plausible ideas about how to go about it
[18:34:28] <cscott>	 sumanah: yeah, i was looking to hack on that next week with folks
[18:34:34] <apergos>	 is that next week already? huh
[18:34:50] <marktraceur>	 cscott: What *aren't* you hacking on next week? :)
[18:34:52] <cscott>	 apergos: i'm in SFO "tomorrow", working-day-wise.
[18:34:57] <apergos>	 wow
[18:35:02] <sumanah>	 cscott: what's your instinct on how to fix it up?
[18:35:03] <cscott>	 marktraceur: parsoid, so far. :(
[18:35:12] <marktraceur>	 cscott: Give it time
[18:35:16] <apergos>	 heh
[18:35:29] <marktraceur>	 cscott: Actually, last year's tech days was when I got the C++ port working. Maybe you can do that again. :P
[18:35:34] <cscott>	 sumanah: i like the parsoid->html->render pathway.  i've got some stylesheets for parsoid html already.  i expect the devil is in the details.
[18:35:49] <cscott>	 marktraceur: i was hoping to hack some on offline visualeditor on the plane.
[18:35:57] <marktraceur>	 Heh, perfect
[18:36:34] <sumanah>	 cscott: can I see the stylesheets?
[18:37:03] <cscott>	 sumanah: https://github.com/cscott/nell-wikipedia/tree/master/www/css
[18:37:07] <sumanah>	 got it
[18:37:12] <cscott>	 they need to be updated some for the latest parsoid
[18:37:27] <cscott>	 i think https://github.com/cscott/nell-wikipedia/blob/master/www/css/app.less is the actual "good bit"
[18:37:43] <cscott>	 the rest are just the standard mediawiki css; app.less has the fixups that make it work on parsoid HTML
[18:37:49] <sumanah>	 cscott: I am going to use the shiny new Etherpad to put together plan/resources/thoughts re the new PDF rendering stuff. Care to take a look as I go? Basically I'd put this on a wiki page to help out people who want to work on it
[18:38:10] <MatmaRex>	 cscott: i want you to tell me that you will fix  -{…}- parsing. :D
[18:38:13] <cscott>	 aw, you should use visual editor + towtruck.  what's this etherpad garbage? ;)
[18:38:22] <cscott>	 MatmaRex: it's on my to do list, yes.
[18:38:40] <sumanah>	 cscott: do I need to use the nightly of Firefox to get TowTruck to work? I tried it a while back and got nada
[18:38:41] <apergos>	 towtruck?
[18:38:42] <cscott>	 I got distracted by marktraceur two weeks ago and have been doing VE hacking since, though.
[18:38:49] <MatmaRex>	 :D
[18:39:04] <cscott>	 sumanah: i don't know, i use chrome.  i haven't seen any firefox version dependencies, though.
[18:39:17] <gwicke>	 cscott: can you add your CSS to parsoid?
[18:39:23] <sumanah>	 cscott: and have you tried out WebRTC, btw?
[18:39:30] <gwicke>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51245
[18:39:31] <cscott>	 gwicke: yes, and sort of.
[18:39:40] <marktraceur>	 Muahaha
[18:39:46] * marktraceur  is a distraction machine

[18:40:02] <cscott>	 wait, that should be: gwicke -- yes, once i get it updated; sumanah: sort of, marktraceur and i were audio chatting over webrtc the other week.
[18:40:03] <marktraceur>	 sumanah: Protip, towtruck has a webrtc interface for voice chat
[18:40:04] <gwicke>	 cscott: do you want to take that bug?
[18:40:18] <cscott>	 gwicke: oh, there's a bugzilla for it?  sure, assign it to me.
[18:40:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Output MathJax rendering for Math tags instead of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51698  +comment (10peter.krautzberger)
[18:40:27] <sumanah>	 I'm looking forward to trying the webRTC and/or towtruck magic!
[18:40:29] * YuviPanda  resolves to not get distracted by marktraceur next week

[18:40:36] <gwicke>	 cscott: before I do so, do you have an ETA on that? ;)
[18:40:37] <cscott>	 gwicke: i'll add it to my list of things to do next week. ;)
[18:40:40] <Reedy>	 YuviPanda: OOOH SHINY
[18:40:47] <saper>	 !debug
[18:40:48] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[18:40:50] <MatmaRex>	 there's a bug for everything
[18:40:52] <marktraceur>	 YuviPanda: Yeah, *that'll* work well
[18:40:54] <saper>	 !debuglog
[18:40:59] <YuviPanda>	 marktraceur: :P
[18:41:03] <MatmaRex>	 i mean, statistically speaking, there are like 10k open ones
[18:41:24] <cscott>	 my two demo targets for next week were ve + towtruck, and offline VE (nell-wikipedia).  CSS is part of the latter.  but the latter looks like it's going to be airplane hacking, i'm hoping i get it done.
[18:42:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allowed memory size of 183500800 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2018670161 bytes). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53840  +comment (10jgerber)
[18:42:16] <gwicke>	 hehe- offline VE with the need to install a web server
[18:42:28] <cscott>	 gwicke: IIRC we need to add the <style> to the parsoid HEAD to get the standard mediawiki stylesheet, and then add our own <style> for the CSS fixups, right?
[18:43:28] <cscott>	 gwicke: it's better stated as "intermittently online" VE.  ie, offline ve, then upload the changes when you next get online.  (and, for the moment, pray that no one has done a conflicting edit in the interim)
[18:43:43] <gwicke>	 cscott: IMO we should link one CSS file only, and compile that from default MW styles and our custom ones in our web server
[18:44:09] <marktraceur>	 cscott: This is when we continue lamenting that mediawiki isn't like git. :)
[18:44:32] <cscott>	 gwicke: sure, maybe.  or maybe the parsoid-only styles should live in core, and we can ask ResourceManager for the whole bolus.
[18:44:46] <cscott>	 gwicke: the hard part is writing the CSS, then we can figure out how to serve it. ;)
[18:45:05] <cscott>	 gwicke: did the core API to get parsoid source land yet, btw?
[18:45:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Link MediaWiki styles and create Parsoid-specific CSS styling to match MediaWiki's for differing DOM elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51245  +comment (10gwicke)
[18:45:48] <gwicke>	 cscott: no, we are still busy with other stuff
[18:46:01] <cscott>	 marktraceur: yeah, i expect to have some interesting discussions next week about how to get real-time editing and traditional mediawiki versioning to play nicely.
[18:46:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editor counts for Italian Wikipedia all zero - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52349  (10Erik Zachte)
[18:46:23] <gwicke>	 cscott: do you have an ETA for the image editing overhaul btw?
[18:46:40] <cscott>	 gwicke: well, once that lands it would make even more sense to serve parsoid CSS out of core, maybe, so the result spit back by the API is internally consistent.
[18:47:59] <cscott>	 gwicke: let's talk about the image refactor next week.
[18:48:19] <gwicke>	 cscott: I just repeated it in the roadmap doc for both August and September
[18:48:58] <gwicke>	 would be good to get that done before next quarter
[18:49:17] <cscott>	 the VE guys aren't too happy with the caption-encapsulation plan, although i don't really have any better ideas.
[18:50:01] <gwicke>	 cscott: the spec was developed with them
[18:50:10] <gwicke>	 it is just a matter of actually implementing it
[18:50:39] <csteipp>	 cscott: You had classes with david wagner? That guy is awesome. (/me catches up on backscroll)
[18:51:16] <cscott>	 yeah, but RoanKattouw indoctrinated me on the subtle wonders of internalItems last night-ish, and so I have a better appreciation of the issues from the VE side.  i still don't have any better ideas yet, so i'm inclined to agree with you and just implement it.  but it would be worth f2f brainstorming.
[18:52:01] <gwicke>	 cscott: we are providing a sane API, let the VE folks worry about implementing their side
[18:52:02] <cscott>	 csteipp: yeah, it was slightly before he was well-known to be awesome.  but i still had a security system thoroughly dismantled by fledgling david wagner, which certainly gave me a good idea of his incipient awesomeness.
[18:52:53] <cscott>	 gwicke: json-encoding a bunch of HTML and sticking it in an attribute isn't quite what everyone would call a "sane API".  but, again, i don't have any better ideas.  i'll agree that it should be an "adequate" api, even if not exactly sane. ;)
[18:53:29] <gwicke>	 cscott: data-mw can potentially be moved out, which is discussed in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52936
[18:53:44] <cscott>	 csteipp: the class was taught by david felton, and we had a history of science major who was also a CIA employee in the class (!) who was doing her thesis on the clipper chip.
[18:54:02] <cscott>	 *ed felton
[18:54:06] <cscott>	 i have david on the brain
[18:54:27] <csteipp>	 Very cool
[18:56:30] <RoanKattouw>	 cscott: If this is about encapsulating captions of inline images then HTML in data-mw is what we asked for, yes
[18:56:41] <RoanKattouw>	 Captions of block images should remain in <figcaption>
[18:56:54] <gwicke>	 RoanKattouw: yup, that's what the spec says
[18:57:01] <cscott>	 csteipp: so naturally the next year i applied to MIT to do my PhD in crypto.  unfortunately I learned that hardware that enthusiasm != aptitude... and a hard 18 months later I was (much more happily) in the compilers group @ MIT.
[18:59:05] <cscott>	 s/that hardware/the hard way/
[18:59:19] * cscott  reflects on the weird way his fingers are interpreting his brain today

[19:01:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Collect meta info and serialize it in the head or elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45206  (10C. Scott Ananian)
[19:01:47] <cscott>	 RoanKattouw, gwicke: there was some other more subtle issue with block content and images, I can't find it in bugzilla though.
[19:02:11] <gwicke>	 cscott: open a bug please
[19:02:35] <cscott>	 the bugs i have assigned to me are https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52567 (captions in inline images) and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49400 (a dompostprocessor pass?)
[19:02:45] <cscott>	 gwicke: it's in bugzilla, i just can't find it :(
[19:03:11] <gwicke>	 cscott: fyi- subbu has started to implement the fragment parsing for captions
[19:03:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: Inline image is missing alt attribute; parse caption separately all the way to DOM and use DOMFragment encapsulation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48958  +comment (10cananian)
[19:03:47] <subbu>	 yes, i started on it y'day -- it is going to be a generic fragment parsing wherever we want scoping and i'll apply it to image-captions and a-i-b issues.
[19:04:04] <cscott>	 there's also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47963 which is a related block-content-in-links issue, i don't think it has a suggested plan of action, though.
[19:04:44] <cscott>	 subbu: cool.  maybe mention your patch on bug 52567 when you upload the first version of it, so i can more easily track progress.
[19:04:50] <subbu>	 k
[19:05:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Captions in inline images aren't generated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52567  +comment (10cananian)
[19:05:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Scribunto should notify the installer if lua can't run because it isn't executable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52002  +comment (10thomasmulhall410)
[19:05:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Captions in inline images aren't generated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52567  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[19:05:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: Inline image is missing alt attribute; parse caption separately all the way to DOM and use DOMFragment encapsulation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48958  +comment (10gwicke)
[19:06:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: wikitext tables inside image captions are lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49942  (10C. Scott Ananian)
[19:06:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: Empty alt captions dont roundtrip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48924  (10C. Scott Ananian)
[19:08:53] <cscott>	 Krinkle: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81272 <- poke, poke
[19:09:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: Inline image is missing alt attribute; parse caption separately all the way to DOM and use DOMFragment encapsulation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48958  +comment (10gwicke)
[19:09:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10cananian)
[19:11:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10cananian)
[19:14:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit tutorial persists after logging out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53261  (10Jon)
[19:14:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit tutorial persists after logging out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53261  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[19:20:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) File names containing URL special characters are not properly escaped in log links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53861 normal; MediaWiki: Skin and page rendering; ()
[19:20:46] <Surkow>	 question, does mediawiki need .htaccess? I disabled .htaccess files with  "AllowOverride None" in my apache configuration
[19:21:36] <Surkow>	 for security reasons I could add the directives directly to the apache configuration file
[19:22:23] <brion>	 Surkow: no, .htaccess is not required.
[19:22:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tests fail when running against MySQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53804  (10Diederik van Liere)
[19:22:37] <brion>	 the ones in default distribution are for locking off subdirectories, and are optional (but recommended)
[19:22:43] <csteipp>	 Surkow: The only danger is /maintenance, which *shouldn't* be a problem, but the .htaccess makes sure it can't be called
[19:22:44] <brion>	 but you can move everything to apache configuration, it does the same thing
[19:23:29] <Surkow>	 csteipp, that's actually a good reason to use the directives from the .htaccess file
[19:23:39] <Surkow>	 brion, exactly
[19:23:45] <Surkow>	 and then it won't be an issue - I hope
[19:23:47] <^d>	 csteipp: If maintenance/* runs from any sapi other than CLI then I did something very very wrong.
[19:23:49] <^d>	 :)
[19:24:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) http://gerrit-stats.wmflabs.org/ is "503 Service Temporarily Unavailable" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45448  (10Diederik van Liere)
[19:24:28] <brion>	 ^d: i wonder if anybody uses php-cli as a server by shelling out to it from some kind of primitive httpd
[19:24:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistent field separation makes Squid logs in Hadoop largely unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44236  (10Diederik van Liere)
[19:24:59] <^d>	 brion: Well if they are they deserve whatever pain they brought on themselves.
[19:25:11] <Surkow>	 :D
[19:25:26] <brion>	 heheh
[19:27:13] <aboSamoor>	 
[19:44:28] <Streetfighter>	 hey i needed some help anyone there?
[19:44:36] <marktraceur>	 Streetfighter: Hello! When you're on IRC it's usually good practice to jump right in and ask a question, as it saves time for everyone involved :) how can we help you?
[19:46:23] <mutante>	 Streetfighter: http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_moves_in_Street_Fighter ?
[19:46:42] <Streetfighter>	 i was was working on bug 26032. I can implement the button on my PHP website but how do I integrate into mediawiki
[19:46:48] <marktraceur>	 !b 26032
[19:46:48] <wm-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26032
[19:47:39] <marktraceur>	 Streetfighter: Well, you'll need to learn a little bit about how the existing MediaWiki JavaScript is structured, it can be found in the resources/ directory
[19:48:06] <marktraceur>	 Then add the code you used on your website, combined with a little glue code
[19:48:28] <marktraceur>	 Streetfighter: You'll probably need to refer to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader
[19:48:51] <Streetfighter>	 thanks
[19:49:04] <marktraceur>	 My pleasure!
[19:49:27] <marktraceur>	 Streetfighter: If you have any other specific questions, feel free to ask, we love helping people, especially people fixing three-year-old bugs :)
[19:50:16] <Streetfighter>	 Yeah sure i just started off so I was looking at how I could contribute
[19:51:19] <guest001>	 hey.. I'm not getting this guide: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces there are only examples on how to create an "edit" protection for namespaces, but nothing about "read" protection
[19:52:13] <guest001>	 will changing "editfoo" to "readfoo" make a difference, or does it even depend on the name?
[19:53:53] <guest001>	 ..
[19:57:09] <RoanKattouw>	 You can't do per-namespace read restrictions in MW core I don't think. But I think there's an extension out there somewhere that does it
[19:59:34] <Vulpix>	 guest001: I'd recommend against relying on that type of protection (read). Such content can be easily disclosed (transcluding it's contents, API, search results...)
[20:01:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[20:02:44] <guest001>	 what i want to do is make only 1 page public and let everything else remain for the eyes of registered editors
[20:03:16] <MatmaRex>	 !wg WhitelistRead
[20:03:16] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWhitelistRead
[20:03:17] <MatmaRex>	 guest001: ^
[20:03:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862  +comment (10Quim Gil)
[20:04:01] <guest001>	 oh my god, thank you
[20:04:06] <Vulpix>	 guest001: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages
[20:08:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia)
[20:11:56] <natbrown>	 How can I make the page of the wiki look nice? I have got rid of the sidebar and I want the text to be in the middle of the page, but now it's all over the page http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Who_is_it_2/Russian
[20:16:28] <natbrown>	 Yurik:Please help! Помогите, пожалуйста! 
[20:17:55] <natbrown>	 yurik:Мне какие-то идеи нужны, хоть какие
[20:21:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Can't handle VP9. (Transcode error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53863 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[20:21:46] <natbrown>	 Reedy:Can you give me some advice? Any advice will do. How can I make the text of this page to be in the middle of the page? http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Who_is_it_2/Russian
[20:22:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862  +comment (10Quim Gil)
[20:26:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notification emails should embed icons as data URIs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53479  (10bsitu)
[20:28:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:29:44] <physikerwelt>	 are there jenkins problems at the moment... my latest commit had failing test and jenkins did a positive review and skipped the test results
[20:29:44] <physikerwelt>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83117/
[20:30:52] <^demon|away>	 All I see is the FAILURE (non-voting)
[20:31:02] <^demon|away>	 All the other ones are SUCCESS
[20:32:20] <physikerwelt>	 but why is it non-voting
[20:32:30] <physikerwelt>	 the phpunit test are essential to my mind
[20:32:34] <physikerwelt>	 it should be -2
[20:39:22] <aboSamoor>	 anyone here knows parsoid?
[20:49:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Ability to dynamically change base font-size of Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24739  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[20:52:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) in Experimental, some accents in urls have recursive problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49647  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:02:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) De.WP's quote template eats refs (or gets eaten) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53777  normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Jan Eissfeldt)
[21:07:45] <yurik>	 natbrown, hi, what text would you like to be in the center? I'm not sure i will be able to help btw as i am not an expert in wikimarkup (or html markup for that matter :))
[21:10:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10dr.trigon)
[21:20:25] <natbrown>	 yurik:Thanks :) I just want to know that I'm not alone!!! Спасибо! I'll think about it.
[21:20:44] <yurik>	 hehe, no you are not
[21:20:55] <natbrown>	 :)
[21:20:59] <yurik>	 what text would yuo like to be in the center though?
[21:21:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) De.WP's quote template eats refs (or gets eaten) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53777  04CRIT->major (10Jan Eissfeldt)
[21:21:18] <yurik>	 that page looks pretty good i think
[21:21:24] <natbrown>	 The lesson of the page http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Who_is_it_2/Russian
[21:22:11] <natbrown>	 No, I don't like it, I think that I'm perfectionist. It's a sin :( I'm trying to be like God!!
[21:22:37] <yurik>	 natbrown, it won't look good if you make "What is it 1/Russian (Что это?)..." in the center
[21:22:43] <yurik>	 because they are all different length
[21:22:53] <yurik>	 multiple lines in the center tend to look awful
[21:25:52] <natbrown>	 I want it to look like http://vk.com or https://www.facebook.com so it centers in the middle. The mobile version of mediawiki  doesn't work with the videos, so I have to think how to make the wiki work on the mobile devices without the mobile version. 
[21:27:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Ability to dynamically change base font-size of Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24739  +comment (10jared.zimmerman)
[21:28:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Plain text email notifications footer should use proper syntax -- - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47303  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:29:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Navboxes look bad in Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53437  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:29:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Navboxes look bad in Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53437  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[21:31:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) in Experimental, some accents in urls have recursive problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49647  (10Jon)
[21:32:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) History.js doesn't allow you to use fragment identifiers with / in them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49775  (10Jon)
[21:34:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) provisioning browsertests role fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53864 normal; Tools: MediaWiki-Vagrant; ()
[21:39:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) provisioning browsertests role fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53864  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[21:41:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Specific CSS page not showing all content (due to base64 encoding of font content?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45518  +comment (10crangasi2001)
[21:44:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 504 Gateway timeout when editing through API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43046  +comment (10crangasi2001)
[21:47:13] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Review and deploy BetaFeatures extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53865 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; ()
[21:47:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235  (10Mark Holmquist)
[21:50:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove "thanks" logs from the user log default display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52118  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:53:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [Experimental] Points on maps are displayed in a wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53866 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); ()
[21:56:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Commit missing from mediawiki/exentions/MassMessage repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53836  +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia)
[21:58:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install python module opencv (v1 and v2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53625  +comment (10DrTrigon)
[22:06:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Install C++ header boost-python - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53867 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[22:07:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install C++ header libdmtx - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53867  summary (10DrTrigon)
[22:07:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install C header libdmtx - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53867  summary (10DrTrigon)
[22:11:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Install binary exiftool from package 'libimage-exiftool-perl' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53868 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[22:13:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Install binaries pdftotext and pdfimages from package 'libimage-exiftool-perl' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53869 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[22:15:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Install binary ffprobe from package 'libav-tools' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53870 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[22:16:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install binaries pdftotext and pdfimages from package 'poppler-utils' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53869  summary (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install binary ffprobe from package 'libav-tools' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53870  (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Packages to be added to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53704  (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install binary exiftool from package 'libimage-exiftool-perl' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53868  (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Packages to be added to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53704  (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install binaries pdftotext and pdfimages from package 'poppler-utils' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53869  (10DrTrigon)
[22:17:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Packages to be added to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53704  (10DrTrigon)
[22:18:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Install C header libdmtx - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53867  (10DrTrigon)
[22:18:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Packages to be added to gerrit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53704  (10DrTrigon)
[22:25:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313  +comment (10Jeff Hall)
[22:26:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Set wgBlockDisablesLogin to true for ALL Wikimedia private wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53871 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[22:30:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Experimental] Points on maps are displayed in a wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53866  +comment (10Jon)
[22:30:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deprecate inline styles (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35704  +comment (10Jon)
[22:41:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Review and deploy BetaFeatures extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53865  +comment (10Greg Grossmeier)
[22:45:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Translate extension conflicts with Header-Footer extension (creates duplicate footers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53872 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[22:48:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Translate extension conflicts with Header-Footer extension (creates duplicate footers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53872  (10Ioannis Protonotarios)
[22:51:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Translatable page header is at the bottom of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40694  +comment (10Ioannis Protonotarios)
[22:54:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't handle VP9. (Transcode error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53863  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[22:54:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice Out of Memory Error in Special:GlobalAllocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53443  (10Adam Wight)
[22:55:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice Out of Memory Error in Special:GlobalAllocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53443  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:55:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Create 'process-support' mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53873 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; ()
[22:55:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice Out of Memory Error in Special:GlobalAllocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53443  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[22:56:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add a generic extension registration mechanism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53874 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[23:10:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parsoid: Output MathJax rendering for Math tags instead of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51698  +comment (10gwicke)
[23:11:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support simple source code editing tools for the VisualEditor plugin for the SyntaxHighlight extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47742  +comment (10Ed Sanders)
[23:11:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Navboxes look bad in Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53437  (10Jon)
[23:11:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:11:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  major->04BLOCKER (10Chad H.)
[23:11:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some patch set refs not fetchable on command line, but visible in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53841  (10Chad H.)
[23:12:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Navboxes look bad in Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53437  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:12:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text jumps while entering edit summary in Safari iOS 4.2.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53048  +comment (10jrobson)
[23:20:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Notification icons in HTML emails are not Retina Quality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53875 normal; MediaWiki: Email; ()
[23:21:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Notification icons in HTML emails are not Retina Quality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53875   +design (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF))
[23:22:10] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) New campaign form broken after error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53876 minor; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; ()
[23:23:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support simple source code editing tools for the VisualEditor plugin for the SyntaxHighlight extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47742  +comment (10suitongbowgn)
[23:26:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) remove login steps from VE tests except for visual_editor_logged_in.feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53877 minor; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; ()
[23:37:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) When I am mentioned in a page on my Watchlist 2 emails are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53878 normal; MediaWiki: Email; ()
[23:40:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New campaign form broken after error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53876  +comment (10Adam Wight)
[23:46:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[23:47:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) bingle 0.2 test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53880 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; ()
[23:47:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) bingle 0.2 test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53880  +comment (10arichards)
[23:49:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879  (10Legoktm)
[23:49:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) When I am mentioned in a page on my Watchlist 2 emails are generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53878  (10Legoktm)
[23:50:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [Regression] wikistats: Safari version detection broken ("Safari 0.0") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53881 critical; Analytics: Wikistats; ()
[23:50:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a generic extension registration mechanism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53874  (10Gabriel Wicke)
[23:53:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879  +comment (10Legoktm)
[23:53:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Thanks workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47658  (10Legoktm)
[23:57:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879  +comment (10jared.zimmerman)