[00:01:16] 03(mod) License shouldn't be hardcoded in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53595 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [00:01:28] 03(mod) [Regression] wikistats: Safari version detection broken ("Safari 0.0") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53881 +comment (10dvanliere) [00:03:53] 03(mod) mediawiki & mediawiki/job cgroups creation should be moved to limit.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53800 +comment (10Faidon Liambotis) [00:04:35] 03(mod) Mobile watchlist has no concept of unread/read changes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52495 +comment (10arichards) [00:05:01] 03(mod) Some infoboxes are clipped on some smartphones (wrong "min-resolution" value?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52572 +comment (10arichards) [00:05:14] 03(mod) Formatter: Cannot edit lead section of articles containing h1's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52857 +comment (10arichards) [00:05:33] 03(mod) Hash behaviour on mobile with sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53308 +comment (10arichards) [00:05:51] 03(mod) mobile modification patrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53684 +comment (10arichards) [00:06:04] 03(mod) bingle 0.2 test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53880 +comment (10arichards) [00:06:09] 03(mod) Mobile watchlist has no concept of unread/read changes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52495 +comment (10bharris) [00:09:22] 03(mod) bingle 0.2 test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53880 (10Arthur Richards) [00:13:17] 03(mod) CentralNotice Out of Memory Error in Special:GlobalAllocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53443 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:20:36] 03(mod) [Beta] Clicking the hamburger icon sends user to Special:MobileMenu instead of just opening the menu on current page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53511 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:20:40] 03(mod) [Beta] Clicking the hamburger icon sends user to Special:MobileMenu instead of just opening the menu on current page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53511 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [00:21:54] 03(NEW) bingle 0.2 test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53882 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:23:08] 03(mod) bingle 0.2 test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53882 +comment (10arichards) [00:31:05] 03(mod) Some infoboxes are clipped on some smartphones (wrong "min-resolution" value?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52572 +comment (10arichards) [00:33:15] 03(mod) mobile modification patrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53684 +comment (10arichards) [00:33:52] 03(mod) bingle 0.2 test 2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53882 (10Arthur Richards) [00:34:33] hi [00:34:55] any one here? [00:35:19] i need to ask about something? [00:36:15] Ask? [00:37:20] Don't ask for permission to ask, I read 4 lines already and they have no content… [00:37:48] lol right? [00:43:50] how can i change the navigation bar (main page,Community portal,Current events,Recent changes,Random page,Help ) with new menu and every button in menu linked to page? [00:44:34] ? [00:44:57] 03(NEW) bizingle! test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53883 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [00:45:18] Linked to what? [00:45:39] And to answer your question... css or js can do. [00:46:46] !portlet [00:46:58] for url like www.mywiki.com/index.php/new page [00:48:19] Can someone else speak up? I can't remember where the mw.addPortlet documentation is. [00:48:28] i can give you real example [00:49:24] 03(mod) bizingle! test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53883 +comment (10arichards) [00:49:44] as the top menu in (http://gomediawiki.com/wiki/Home ) "" home , skins, about .....) [00:52:39] ??? [00:52:42] 03(mod) File names containing URL special characters are not properly escaped in log links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53861 +comment (10bdavis) [00:54:10] any one here?? [00:54:14] yes. [00:54:27] I can see what you mean. [00:55:01] good, how can i do this??? [00:55:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar possibly? [00:58:15] i will read it [00:58:20] thanks [01:00:09] Sorry for the delay, I was multitasking and forgot to follow-up. [01:03:30] 03(mod) Thanks workflow needs further thought - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47658 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:03:32] 03(mod) Duplicate thank you allowed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46690 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:03:32] sorry [01:03:47] the url not help [01:06:10] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [01:07:53] 03(mod) bizingle! test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53883 (10Arthur Richards) [01:08:13] ok where i can find the portlet in the code??? [01:08:52] i find this link and i think it's help https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar/Hacks [01:13:49] ???// [01:15:36] ahmed__: This MediaWiki page is inactive and kept for historical interest. It may document extensions or features that are obsolete and/or no longer supported. Do not rely on the information here being up-to-date. [01:15:36] This page lists hacks that used to be mentioned in Manual:Interface/Sidebar. These have been removed because they involve modifying the core .php code and are not supported. They are only here for historical interest. [01:17:17] ok can you help me??? [01:18:13] Give me a moment. [01:18:23] ok [01:26:03] moment or hour :D [01:26:10] Yep [01:26:18] Working on multiple tasks. [01:31:30] ok , i'm waiting [01:31:48] ahmed_: try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Default_modules#mediawiki.util [01:35:43] ok i will try it [02:04:35] 03(mod) Add webfont for Khmer language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53673 (10Kartik Mistry) [02:24:12] 03(mod) Race condition: pressing several character keys simultaneously sometimes inserts spurious newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53317 +comment (10Axel Boldt) [02:24:34] 03(mod) Wikimedia Australia mailing list creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53847 +comment (10cro0016) [02:25:39] 03(mod) PHP "Can't inherit abstract function" error on ee-prototype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53523 (10spage) [02:28:09] 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [04:27:57] 03(mod) Section handling in Semantic Forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46662 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:34:11] 03(mod) Parsoid: Output MathJax rendering for Math tags instead of images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51698 +comment (10peter.krautzberger) [05:27:14] 03(NEW) [Regression] Specifying an invalid section with action=edit doesn't throw a nosuchsection error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53884 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [05:41:19] 03(mod) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855 -shellpolicy +shell; +comment (10This, that and the other) [05:48:22] 03(mod) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:48:25] 03(mod) Set logo to Hebrew Wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53855 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [06:57:21] 03(NEW) Move 'gettingstarted' tour to GettingStarted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53885 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [07:02:37] 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862 +comment (10Nemo) [07:16:51] 03(NEW) Remove sitesupport-url from default sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53886 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [07:17:04] 03(mod) Remove sitesupport-url from default sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53886 (10Nemo) [07:17:05] 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862 (10Nemo) [07:21:13] 03(NEW) Add link to PD help translatable pages from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53887 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [07:21:14] 03(mod) Removing portal-url, currentevents-url and helppage from default Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53862 (10Nemo) [07:21:15] 03(mod) Link translatable help pages on mediawiki.org from the relevant special pages, actions etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43591 (10Nemo) [07:21:49] 03(mod) Add link to PD help translatable pages from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53887 (10Nemo) [07:22:16] 03(mod) Add link to PD help translatable pages from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53887 (10Nemo) [07:22:57] 03(mod) Review LaTeXML branch of Extension:Math for deployment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43222 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [07:32:46] 03(NEW) Link to existing login help page by default from helplogin-url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53888 enhancement; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [07:32:47] 03(mod) Link translatable help pages on mediawiki.org from the relevant special pages, actions etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43591 (10Nemo) [07:33:06] 03(mod) Link to existing login help page by default from helplogin-url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53888 (10Nemo) [07:42:46] 03(mod) Link to existing login help page by default from helplogin-url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53888 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:42:47] 03(mod) Link to existing login help page by default from helplogin-url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53888 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:57:27] 03(NEW) VisualEditor is conflicting with JS as a part of picture and infobox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53889 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [08:05:04] 03(mod) Remove sitesupport-url from default sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53886 +comment (10Nemo) [08:13:50] 03(mod) Add link to PD help translatable pages from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53887 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:14:02] 03(mod) Add link to PD help translatable pages from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53887 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:33:44] hello im trying to diplay an image in wiki that's on another server. is that supported? i dont want to link to it.. i want to render the image in my content but house the images on a diff server where the wiki has been installed [08:35:18] have tried different File: and Image: gallery combinations to no effect [09:05:47] 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [09:05:47] 03(NEW) LocalisationUpdate failed: git pull of extensions failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53890 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [09:20:54] !logs [09:20:54] channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/html/index.php?action=search&channel=%23mediawiki [09:21:09] !logs del [09:21:09] Successfully removed logs [09:21:39] !logs is channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wm-bot/logs/index.php?display=%23mediawiki [09:21:39] Key was added [09:24:23] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [09:29:36] 03(mod) Deletion request: "Error deleting file: The file is in an inconsistent state within the internal storage backends" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53838 +comment (10steinsplitter-wiki) [09:37:09] . [10:02:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Copying between editors with wikitext-irrelevant CRs pastes the ↵ as a literal character, not a CE newline placeholder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52096 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:02:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Copying between editors with wikitext-irrelevant CRs pastes the ↵ as a literal character, not a CE newline placeholder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52096 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:02:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox doesn't fire a copy event when only a FocusableNode is selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53375 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:02:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox doesn't fire a copy event when only a FocusableNode is selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53375 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:02:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't copy/paste a reference or template unless you select text either side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49396 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:02:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't copy/paste a reference or template unless you select text either side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49396 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:35:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cut-and-paste swap of reference list creates massive content duplication, pawns (♙) and snowmen (☃) galore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50465 +comment (10Ed Sanders) [10:51:10] 03(NEW) When editing an infobox, the labels are sorted alphabetically and not in the original order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53891 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [11:26:25] 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834 +comment (10matma.rex) [11:42:13] 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:48:06] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 +accessibility; +comment (10Marius Hoch) [11:49:22] 03(NEW) metrics.wmflabs.org got an invalid certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53892 normal; Wikimedia Labs: General; () [11:53:50] 03(mod) Pronoun selection has gender bias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53834 -accessibility (10Marius Hoch) [11:58:32] Hi, yesterday I just installed a new mediawiki and today I wanted to use my bot. Unfortunately there's a \n at the begin of every api-request, that shouldn't be there. How can I get rid of this? [12:10:40] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10matma.rex) [12:10:43] 03(mod) metrics.wmflabs.org got an invalid certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53892 (10Maarten Dammers) [12:11:49] 03(mod) Tab index sorting doesn't make sense - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29199 +comment (10Nemo) [12:12:12] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:14:54] 03(mod) Remove "thanks" logs from the user log default display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52118 +comment (10Alex Monk) [12:16:08] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 +comment (10326374) [12:16:31] 03(mod) metrics.wmflabs.org got an invalid certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53892 +comment (10dvanliere) [12:19:40] 03(mod) Edit-Toolbar not accessible to screen readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24592 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:21:47] 03(mod) Edit-Toolbar not accessible to screen readers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24592 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [12:27:00] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10Technical_13) [12:43:32] so, I have a problem: running mediawiki at home, and it shows properly on one of the computers (server), but the computer connecting to it is missing formatting (everything is displayed as a list instead of a formatted page) [12:56:46] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:56:49] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:02:07] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:04:18] 03(mod) Enhanced recent changes: Arrow to show collapsed changes doesn't respond to space - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53797 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:20:52] hi [13:21:24] how can i change mediawiki page title to simply the BASENAME of page [13:21:58] e.g. my page title is foo/bar/unix if i have subpages [13:22:21] i just need to see my title as "unix" instead of foo/bar/unix [14:19:09] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10Ignatzmice) [14:24:45] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:24:55] 03(mod) qa/browsertests has no license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49313 (10Željko Filipin) [14:29:53] 03(mod) Thanking a user for an edit takes multiple clicks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53879 +comment (10Technical_13) [14:43:47] 03(mod) Object of class Blob could not be converted to string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50235 (10Andre Klapper) [14:49:04] 03(mod) Install VE August update on hewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52552 (10Eran Roz) [15:00:42] is it possible to merge edits of an IP address to a user account using merge extension? [15:01:07] @list [15:01:14] !merge [15:01:15] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !selfmerge, [15:01:24] !selfmerge [15:01:24] Self-merging is almost always evil. You generally shouldn't do that. [15:01:40] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/dump/%23mediawiki.htm [15:02:36] 03(mod) [[Special:Notifications]] (partially) doesn't respect ?uselang= URL parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52992 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:03:32] saqib: Not sure with the merge extension... It's easily enough done via the database [15:03:35] If you know what you're doing.. [15:03:53] how ? [15:04:01] how with the databse? [15:07:50] reedy [15:08:20] saqib: manually change the rows in the revision table? [15:08:21] !db revision [15:08:22] See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:revision_table [15:08:36] don't ask me how, i've never done that (and you probably shouldn't either) [15:37:52] Hi, yesterday I just installed a new mediawiki and today I wanted to use my bot. Unfortunately there's a \n at the begin of every api-request, that shouldn't be there. How can I get rid of this? [15:47:23] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Globalblocking-ipblocked should have a specific message for WMF projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42231 +comment (10federicoleva) [15:51:08] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Globalblocking-block-intro should match MediaWiki:Blockiptext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18098 (10Nemo) [15:51:08] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [16:05:17] 03(mod) Link translatable help pages on mediawiki.org from the relevant special pages, actions etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43591 +comment (10federicoleva) [16:58:55] 03(mod) Minor GIF image glitch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48042 (10Ankit Maity) [17:02:38] what happened to the edit window? whi is it no longer in monospace but sansserif? [17:02:42] *why ;-) [17:04:15] 03(mod) Translation information under the page title is too obtrusive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51533 +comment (10jrobson) [17:05:08] Danny_B: there's a bug for that [17:05:12] Danny_B: ULS strikes back [17:05:18] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53734 [17:06:43] sigh [17:07:15] such buggy things should not be deployed or immediately reverted [17:07:21] +1 [17:07:32] sadly i have nothing to say in these matters, eh [17:09:17] Danny_B: quit joking, Ive seen some completely broken stuff shoved down our throats [17:28:51] i'm tired of writing self. i'm thinking of breaking up with python [17:39:41] 03(NEW) Article tabs are wrong when page is protected via cascading from another page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53893 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [18:40:20] marktraceur: hello [18:59:09] 03(mod) Cannot log in: "Incorrect password" even after resetting it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53755 (10troygabriella) [19:15:47] Rahul21: Hello! When you're on IRC it's usually good practice to jump right in and ask a question, as it saves time for everyone involved :) how can we help you? [19:17:34] marktraceur: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FUploadWizard.git/5bd2fc06bdec5c6de0d6798f119eeefa960bf989/resources%2Fmw.UploadWizard.js#L10, I wanted to put the url into the ajax object, just wanted to make sure if https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49988 was the right place for it [19:18:14] Rahul21: No, but not having a bug for it doesn't matter, just write a normal commit message [19:18:29] And I thought you'd written that patch already? [19:21:39] marktraceur: Nope, in process! Just had a few doubts regarding it [19:27:19] marktraceur: If and when your free just review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/83231, a very small change [19:27:21] Tested [19:29:13] I already -1'd it [19:29:29] Rahul21: You should be in #wikimedia-dev too, you can watch Gerrit changes live there [19:31:09] marktraceur: yep, changed + on wikimedia-dev [19:52:30] 12(Skizzerz12): you around? [20:01:38] 03(NEW) API now uses uppercase ids - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53894 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [20:06:21] 03(mod) API now uses uppercase ids - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53894 +comment (10Tpt) [20:11:27] 03(NEW) translatewiki.net: git fetch ... bails out with "hash mismatch" "key_verify failed for server_host_key" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53895 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; () [20:14:05] Hi. Whose head should I bash to get devs stop acting like wise-guys regarding plural usage in interface messages? For the humour impaired, this translates to: Who do I contact to get better guidelines out for devs regarding plural usage? [20:15:21] Sid-G: what's your issue? [20:15:47] 03(NEW) Image in image description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53896 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [20:16:11] ResourceLoader still hates me :( [20:16:37] Nikerabbit: specifically, the one I stated in i18n chan [20:16:49] Nikerabbit: also writing at twn support [20:16:59] in general, here goes: [20:17:29] Devs like modularity. They like it too much. [20:18:09] Sid-G: care to copy what you wrote here? i'm not on that channel [20:18:35] I can understand dividing messages into parts where the parts may be used over multiple interface messages without having to translate it all over again. [20:18:39] 22.09 < Sid-G> Hi. I have a question. If a message supports PLURAL over one parameter, does that mean it supports PLURAL over all parameters? Or is the support parameter-specific? [20:18:43] 22.10 -!- Eleferen_ [~quassel@shpd-178-64-204-116.vologda.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] [20:18:46] 22.17 < Nemo_bis> Sid-G: if the parameter is a (formatted) number.. [20:19:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Messages_API#Notes_about_gender.2C_grammar.2C_plural [20:19:57] But when devs try to be wise-guys by dividing current messages into parts for possible future use in multiple messages, while the current messages are used only once; that's annoying at the minimum and frustrating at the max limit. [20:20:37] * MatmaRex waits for Sid-G to get to the point [20:20:39] * Sid-G reloads the support page and tries to save again [20:20:47] you seem to have asked something different than what your issue is [20:20:55] MatmaRex: that is the point [20:21:04] i don't see a point in there. [20:21:09] which messages are you having troubles with? [20:21:40] MatmaRex: devs divide messages that are sentences into various parts, even when those parts are used only once [20:21:50] which ones/ [20:21:51] ? [20:22:20] i'm a dev and i don't do that, so you're clearly wrong [20:22:38] MatmaRex: well, I'd certainly like more of you then [20:22:53] here's the message i was gonna write at twn support: [20:23:03] This message needs plural support over $1 (i.e [[Mediawiki:newmessageslinkplural]]). Explanation: Sentence grammar would differ depending upon whether we are talking about one new message or multiple new messages. The difference is basically equivalent to the english difference of is/are. [20:23:04] Also, [[Plural]] doesn't specify whether plural support over one parameter means plural support over all parameters or not. Could someone clarify this there? [20:23:05] Thanks. [20:23:40] "this message" refers to About [[MediaWiki:Youhavenewmessagesfromusers/hi]] [20:23:59] Sid-G: you do realize these messages are, like, ten years old? [20:24:25] MatmaRex: i dont think so [20:24:32] back then people did many things wrong [20:24:45] MatmaRex: its a new message i think [20:24:45] MatmaRex: it was changed sometime back [20:24:46] also, this message is split because the split-out part is text of a link [20:25:14] depending on the particular html structure, it might not be possible to make it one message [20:25:18] Its doc says: New talk indicator message: the message appearing when someone edited your user talk page. [20:25:40] MatmaRex: please elaborate on why it may not be possible? [20:25:45] and yes, it's only used once, so you can feel free to adjust the text in any way to make it "fit" [20:26:00] Sid-G: for example if the generated text is something like: [20:26:08] MatmaRex: i know i can do that [20:26:54] Something plural-related about thing(s). [20:27:02] it's not possible to generate this using wikitext [20:27:06] 03(mod) metrics.wmflabs.org got an invalid certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53892 +comment (10rlane32) [20:27:06] I dont like the fact that devs force translators to fix 5 messages when the job can possibly be done in 1 [20:27:14] (the element will have additional attributes which might not be wanted) [20:27:30] Sid-G: feel free to make the code better [20:27:33] (or file a bug) [20:27:49] that's actually probably exactly what happens in this case [20:28:09] 03(mod) metrics.wmflabs.org got an invalid certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53892 +comment (10rlane32) [20:29:16] MatmaRex: so u'll file the bug? [20:29:57] MatmaRex: or should i? [20:30:14] Sid-G: can you do it? i'm kinda busy right now :) [20:30:25] * Sid-G goes to bugzilla [20:31:48] 03(mod) Allow excluding pages from the link notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44787 +comment (10Quiddity) [20:31:52] MatmaRex: this goes into mw core, right? [20:34:16] Sid-G: yes [20:35:26] MatmaRex: so, do u think i'm right when i say that there are possibly still devs who divide sentences for future modularity support? If yes, how do we make them aware that this is bad? mailing list? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Be_aware_of_PLURAL_use_on_all_numbers ? somewhere else? [20:36:55] Sid-G: i think everybody with merge rights in core is aware of the issues this creates and doesn't do it [20:37:22] Sid-G: the help/documentation is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation , i believe [20:38:39] MatmaRex: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Be_aware_of_PLURAL_use_on_all_numbers doesn't say anything about the issue as far as i interpret it [20:39:01] Sid-G: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Avoid_patchwork_messages ? [20:46:21] i've got $out->addModules( 'skins.dolphin.js' ); in my initPage part of my skin [20:46:50] and the module is visible in wgResourceModules [20:47:01] 03(mod) Guided Tour popup in wrong place - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53858 +comment (10Steven Walling) [20:47:08] but it's not showing up in my skin [20:48:03] 03(mod) Firstedit tour step not correctly pointing to Preview and Save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53858 summary (10Steven Walling) [20:48:11] 03(mod) Firstedit tour not correctly pointing to Preview and Save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53858 summary (10Steven Walling) [20:48:59] another attempt, there wasn't anyone to answer before: I installed a new mediawiki (1.21). I have a small issue with the api.php. any response is like "\n". so there's a extra \n that shouldn't be there. Any suggestions how to get rid of that? [20:49:38] i once had an issue like that where i had an extra line break in my localsettings.php [20:51:03] yes, that's what I heard could be the issue, but I cannot find that \n in my localsettings.php [20:51:21] 03(NEW) Message Lego breaks sentence structure in translations of "You have new messages" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53897 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; () [20:51:43] when you \n, do mean a line break, or literally "\n"? [20:51:54] linebreak [20:53:19] it's not that important, I just added a trim($response) to my bot, but I want to have it fixed^^ [20:54:21] do you see it in all replies (load.php, index.php) or only api.php? [20:54:29] maybe you accidentally added a line break to that file? [20:54:56] or an linux vs windows \r\n problem? [20:55:28] I didn't check that, but yes, it's also in index.php [20:55:58] MatmaRex: We'll allow one day. [20:56:55] 03(mod) Text jumps while entering edit summary in Safari iOS 4.2.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53048 +comment (10axelboldt) [20:58:24] Elsie: but probably not without class=external rel=nofollow, or whatever are the attributes we stuff on links [20:59:23] I don't see why not. [20:59:39] Those will apply to [http://foo], but not to . [20:59:40] Surely. [21:00:37] line-ending is set to unix [21:01:08] 03(mod) Message Lego breaks sentence structure in translations of "You have new messages" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53897 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [21:01:09] 03(mod) Hindi Wikiprojects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41348 (10Siddhartha Ghai) [21:02:20] 12(Recode12): yea no idea beyond that [21:02:40] maybe try renaming the localsettings.php and try reinstalling it [21:15:10] mw.loader.state({"skins.dolphin":"missing"}); [21:15:29] anyone know what that means? [21:17:31] Prodi: Got the mistake [21:17:42] 12(Recode12): nice, what was it? [21:18:02] does mw allow unicode ZWJ/ZWNJ in page titles? [21:20:24] What's with the blue parentheses? [21:20:33] part of my script [21:20:42] Silly. [21:21:19] 08I am using the..::1208•·12Ultra Protection Project08·•08::.. Version..::122.2008::.. mIRC..::12v6.35 32bit08::.. Author..::12KyD08::.. Released..::122010.02.0708::.. Webpage..::12 http://www.upp-irc.tk 08::.. 08.•12«08UPP12»08•. [21:21:31] Oh Lord. [21:21:42] That's awful. [21:21:51] :) [21:21:59] looks nice on my black background [21:22:35] I have a white background. [21:24:26] While copying https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoTitle 's source, there was a \n before mine is gray [21:24:57] ah, glad you found it :) [21:27:01] so it wasn't directly in localsettings..too bad [21:32:30] anyone know how to debug resourceloader? [21:33:06] Set ?debug=true in your load.php URLs. [21:33:14] Or what do you mean? [21:33:50] i'm trying to load my skins.dolphin module [21:33:53] and it's not working [21:34:05] if i try to go to load.php, i get the output that the class is missing [21:34:14] http://beta.strategywiki.org/w/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=skins.dolphin [21:34:17] mw.loader.state({"skins.dolphin":"missing"}); [21:34:51] Where is that defined in PHP? [21:35:01] You tried installing a custom skin? [21:35:03] Or something? [21:35:08] i've written my own skin [21:35:12] well me and some friends [21:35:14] Called Dolphin. [21:35:33] In your PHP, you're probably implicitly or explicitly calling that file. [21:35:41] everything works, except for loading the css/js through resourceloader [21:35:47] Well, you are in the URL, actually. [21:36:02] $out->addModuleStyles( 'skins.dolphin' ); [21:36:26] And you created a corresponding .css file somewhere? [21:36:31] yep [21:36:36] Where'd you create it? [21:36:39] With what name? [21:36:48] dolphin/css/main.css [21:36:49] That sounds like your issue. [21:37:06] I don't think skins use /css/ like that. [21:37:16] There should be docs for that function. [21:37:22] addModuleStyles. [21:37:43] there are [21:37:46] !b1 | Elsie [21:37:46] i've followed all the guides [21:37:49] and the guides are wrong :) [21:37:53] !b 1 [21:37:53] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1 [21:37:57] Hi Sid-G. [21:38:09] Hey Elsie [21:38:15] Prodi: It's a wiki. Fix it. ;-) [21:38:19] I've always wanted to use that :P [21:38:26] trying to figure out how [21:38:34] but i've gone through about as much resourceloader code as i'm willing [21:38:51] i need a dev who actually understands this [21:39:05] Demand a refund. [21:39:15] funny :) [21:39:19] I'm hilarious. [21:39:25] grep core for "addmodulestyles" and figure out how those work. [21:39:32] I think you're close. [21:39:43] It seems like the CSS file just isn't in the correct place. [21:39:49] well i define that [21:39:51] How'd you come up with css/? [21:39:53] i've set up my own resources.php [21:39:55] Can you pastebin your code? [21:40:04] Not that I'll be helpful. [21:40:08] But someone else will know. [21:40:12] This is mostly a Krinkle|detached question. [21:40:18] do a few trial and error tries? [21:40:28] If you can also provide a link to whatever guide you're following, that would help. [21:40:31] yea, hoping one of them show up [21:40:39] or just use the format default skins use> [21:40:39] *use? [21:40:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning/Vector [21:41:05] chances are that if you're following a MediaWiki.org guide, you're probably Doing It Wrong(TM) :) [21:41:09] Heh. [21:41:13] because the docs suck (bug #1) most of the time [21:41:14] lol [21:41:23] yea [21:41:24] they're outdated or nonexistent [21:41:29] the talk page actually has more details than the main page [21:41:34] Heh. [21:41:36] It always does. [21:41:48] as in everyone is having the problem [21:42:23] the way that works is apparenly overriding the constructor [21:42:42] but that seems kludgy [21:43:13] RL issues, eh? [21:49:08] hmm. I just messed up a titleblacklist rule. this isn't working: [21:49:10] .*\\([Aa]rchive|पुरालेख).* [21:49:31] is it the slashes at the beginning? [21:50:33] 12(ashley12): do you know where i can put an include so that it comes after Setup.php without modifying core files? [21:50:39] What are you trying to match? [21:50:49] Sid-G: ^ [21:51:27] Prodi: there's probably a hook for that -- but I'd be interested in your issue and how you're currently doing it, maybe I can help (I've built a fair share of skins and fixed a lot of 'em, too, so maybe I can help you out...at least I hope I can!) [21:51:32] Elsie: Archive.zip पुरालेख.zip and similar rar, 7z etc attempts [21:52:07] That rule is written to catch malformed archives. [21:52:12] it used to be (before my modification): [21:52:12] .*\\[Aa]rchive.* [21:52:17] Like "Foo\Archive" instead of "Foo/Archive". [21:52:28] It has nothing to do with .zip. [21:52:35] If you want to catch that, you need to write your own regex. [21:52:39] Or find someone to write one for you. [21:52:54] oh right [21:53:02] i forgot what . means in regex [21:53:13] any single character [21:53:25] anyway, what i was trying to do is get it to work with पुरालेख along with Archive [21:53:35] Elsie: ^ [21:53:46] You'd want \.zip [21:53:47] Or something. [21:54:07] .*archive.zip$ [21:54:08] Elsie: I was assuming that's what it did [21:54:29] Why would someone make a .zip page? [21:54:31] All i actually want to do is just add support for the hindi word along with the english word [21:54:31] It wouldn't do anything. [21:54:47] You seem to be confused. [21:54:59] ok... [21:55:12] so, to be clear: [21:55:24] What kind of page titles are you trying to catch? [21:55:27] original message: [21:55:27] .*\\[Aa]rchive.* [21:55:37] Right. That has nothing do with archive.zip or 7z attempts. [21:56:40] Elsie: What I want is that the rule catches the word पुरालेख just like the word Archive [21:56:40] what i tried: [21:56:40] .*\\([Aa]rchive|पुरालेख).* [21:56:49] so, is that right? [21:57:09] if it is, how do I test it, since I clearly have no idea what it does? [21:57:51] What kind of page titles are you trying to catch? [21:57:55] Give examples. [21:58:00] Elsie: no idea [21:58:02] Like two or three examples of page titles you want to disallow. [21:58:14] Elsie: that's just a rule that was copied way back from en-wp [21:58:14] So you're trying to blacklist no idea. [21:58:22] So delete it. [21:58:24] Elsie: one of the rules copied, to be correct [21:58:49] Elsie: look at https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF:Titleblacklist and you'll see the problem [21:59:23] practically every rule was imported from en-wp [21:59:38] noone has any idea if any rule works, and what any of it does [21:59:40] Why do you have English rules? [21:59:46] Then delete the page. [22:00:47] i was hoping for a more educated solution, like figuring out what they do and keeping/deleting on a per-rule basis [22:01:03] I already described that rule. [22:01:21] [17:52] That rule is written to catch malformed archives. [22:01:26] [17:52] Like "Foo\Archive" instead of "Foo/Archive". [22:01:38] It uses \\ because you have to escape \. [22:01:42] right, and i just understood it (after reading the pcre manual) [22:01:44] If you want a literal "\", you need "\\". [22:02:07] So it's looking for \Archive [22:02:10] .* is anything. [22:02:15] . is an any single character. [22:02:21] * means 0 to infinity references. [22:02:25] so what i want the rule to do now is to catch \archive \Archive and \पुरालेख [22:02:39] You had it earlier. [22:02:56] .+\\(Archive|).* [22:02:59] * Sid-G goes to test [22:03:00] Something like that. [22:03:07] But you can use the flag or whatever. [22:03:13] You don't need to do [Aa]. [22:03:19] If you're an admin, you'll be able to override the rule. [22:03:23] So test with an unprivileged account. [22:03:37] defines a custom error message. [22:03:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-archive [22:03:59] Example. [22:04:04] funny. i fixed the rule correctly without knowing what it did [22:04:32] Elsie: well i found out about the messages earlier today when a user complained about seeing a message name [22:04:41] Someone dumped in the title blacklist. [22:04:44] For unknown reasons. [22:04:45] since there was no message at the mediawiki page [22:04:50] And then didn't create the custom error messages. [22:04:54] Right. [22:05:17] yup [22:05:27] i just hadn't figured this out yet [22:06:17] had fixed the blacklist sometime back for the namespaces (anyone with a non-en and non-hi username simply couldn't login for the first time) [22:07:36] no automatic account creation, courtesy the blacklist [22:09:12] anyone know if it's possible to do a require_once somewhere after Setup.php? [22:09:21] Elsie: anyways, thanks for the help :) [22:22:14] Elsie: any idea if mw supports ZWJ or ZWNJ characters in page titles? [22:23:47] nvm [22:59:55] HI. I am have installed thre xammp stack and mediawiki via the bitnami package [23:00:22] I am trying to change the navigation panel on the left side of the screen, but changes made do not seem to stick [23:01:08] even going to http://127.0.0.1/mediawiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar and editing it, just adding a link at the bottom of the offsite links does not show up [23:01:29] do i have to reset the xxamp stack for this to take effect? [23:01:59] I seem to be missing something obvious here [23:08:41] I want to use a wiki for personal use at home, and dokuwiki seems easier, but mediawiki seems much more mature and I would prefer it, but dokuwiki appears to me to be much more intuitive to use at this point. Changes made in doku just take where as mediawiki changes dont appear immediately if at all. Anyone shed some light on this? [23:08:54] I feel I am missing the forest for the trees at this point. :) [23:41:25] 03(NEW) Show always unattached account on Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53898 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; ()