[00:01:16] wenn ist das nunstruck git und slotermeyer? ya! beiherhund das oder die flipperwaldt gersput! [00:03:52] 03(NEW) UploadWizard should not allowing upload two different files with same name at same time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54750 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [00:04:22] no 2 files, only one file [00:04:30] bawolff: Oh dear [00:04:48] 03(mod) Inconsistency bug in file re-upload (possible race condition) potentially causing data loss - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54736 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:04:50] in the file name "äöü" [00:04:52] * marktraceur will deal with that....later [00:04:54] but seriously, i think you're trying to upload using a character set that your back end database is not set up to handle [00:05:22] marktraceur: Yeah, filebackend sometimes sucks, and in this case things like https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BDavis-test-del.jpg happen [00:06:01] mwadmin: Are you on windows? [00:06:40] i on win 7 system the wiki [00:07:32] roycroft , the sulution is ? [00:10:20] Reedy: It appears you +2'd https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78162/ but gerrit got confused and forgot you did [00:12:23] my german is old, so i'm not positive that's the problem [00:12:48] but if it is, and i have a reasonable suspician it is, you need to recreate the database using whatever character set you want to support [00:13:24] if postgresql is the backend dbms, there is a default that you set when you install the software, and you have to override that on a per-database basis if you need something else [00:13:34] if it's mysql good luck - i know very little about that [00:13:47] you cannot convert an existing database to use a different character set [00:14:05] i using a germen character set in file names ( ÄÖÜ) and the wiki make a error, "Not allowed to upload that file " [00:14:12] I think you can (although I've never done it) [00:14:19] the most you can do is a database dump, drop the database, then recreate the database using the preferred character set, and restore the data from the dump [00:14:32] or else edit your upload file to conform to what your existing database supports [00:14:45] Can you do it with an alter table statement [00:14:50] and that prefer that ? [00:15:19] Anyways, mediawiki usually creates tables with a binary or unicode charset (Depending on your settings), neither should cause problems with german letters [00:15:21] UTF8 db? [00:16:13] the wiki is new , i can make them colpet new installation ;) [00:16:21] complet^^ [00:17:14] mwadmin: Honestly I'm less sure its a db charset issue. Try uploading a file with just ascii characters in its name, that way you could confirm if the special characters are the issue [00:17:27] Its also a known issue that german characters don't work in filenames on windows [00:18:10] Haken_grün.png <--- file that make that problem [00:18:31] Can you upload other file names? [00:18:36] yip [00:18:45] alle without (ÄÜÖ) [00:19:34] that a icon that will use in wikiit list /tables [00:20:00] Could you temporarily set your user language to english (You can change it in Special:Preferences), just so you could tell us what the english version of the error message is? [00:20:26] or actually never mind [00:20:40] mom [00:21:24] I found the error message - its https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Windows-nonascii-filename/de [00:21:33] Which basically means you are on windows [00:21:42] yip win 7 [00:22:01] and windows sucks (or php sucks depending on your point of view. really both suck), so special characters aren't supported in filenames [00:22:30] you need to use linux in order to have filenames with non-ascii characters in them [00:22:35] i no nothing at all about windows [00:22:39] so i cannot help [00:23:35] it has work in the past on win ..... [00:23:58] roycroft: In a nutshell php on windows does not support creating files with non-ascii characters in them [00:24:00] its stupid [00:24:07] Upload error This wiki does not support filenames with special characters. [00:24:51] !b 1780 | mwadmin [00:24:51] mwadmin: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1780 [00:26:13] and https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=33350 [00:26:46] mwadmin: Basically you have to switch to linux if you want german filenames [00:26:56] nope [00:27:07] that is a win system .... [00:27:28] Well your choices are change it to linux or not have german file names ;) [00:27:45] blame php [00:27:45] i a old wiki version it hase work fine ... [00:28:18] I doubt that, as this bug has pretty much existed always [00:28:32] goes back at least to 2005 [00:28:47] yip, ill know many german wiki's they work with that chat sets .... [00:28:58] char set [00:29:06] mwadmin: but do you know any german wikis on windows? [00:29:28] most servers use linux [00:29:40] i dont know on that they run .... [00:29:54] You can tell by looking at special:version [00:30:46] e.g. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Version#mw-version-software says unbuntu which means linux [00:31:02] it looks like linux ^^ 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 (apache2handler) [00:31:28] holy crap .... [00:40:05] ok thx for help, ill try that i do ;) [00:40:13] cya [00:51:25] 03(mod) Use VipsScaler to scale large GIFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52043 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:53:00] 03(mod) Use VipsScaler to scale JPGs on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51451 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [01:00:29] 03(mod) Enable Wikitext for MediaWiki:Thumbnail_error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6044 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [01:05:40] what is the syntax to define a list of users for the "ucuser" parameter of "action=query&list=usercontribs"? I tried "User1|User2" but it only returns contribs from one of them [01:06:59] 03(NEW) thumbs from Special:VipsTest sometimes fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54751 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [01:08:47] Are you sure it accepts more than one arg, some api parameters don't [01:09:26] its documentation at "Special:ApiSandbox" says "The **users** to retrieve contributions for" [01:11:40] bawolff: and there seems to be some code for dealing with more than one user at [01:11:51] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/api/ApiQueryUserContributions.php#L68 [01:14:22] 03(mod) Improve quality of scaled PNGs with Vips for all sizes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51400 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [01:14:38] 03(NEW) Wrong Font used in Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54752 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [01:15:07] helderwiki: hmm, you are right 'user' => array(ApiBase::PARAM_ISMULTI => true), [01:15:14] which normally means | separates [01:16:02] weird, maybe it broke recently? [01:19:25] no, i think it works, it just doesn't order the results as you expect: for example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=usercontribs&ucuser=20cameronk|Pearley%2022 [01:24:06] Does that mean it will only return contribs from the second user after returning everything for the first one? [01:32:05] 03(NEW) subpage breadcrumbs for Programs namespaces on meta.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54753 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [01:44:44] 03(NEW) VipsScaler doesn't add comment to PNG file about file source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54754 normal; MediaWiki extensions: VipsScaler; () [01:45:55] 03(mod) Special:ListUsers : Internal Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54348 (10zdroid9770) [01:47:46] 03(mod) Special:ListUsers : Internal Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54348 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [02:19:14] interesting. when vips converts a tiff file, it keeps all the metadata [02:23:15] or actually no, that's image magick... [03:02:21] 03(mod) Agents should be able to change their own email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35716 +comment (10Ryan (Rjd0060)) [03:18:52] 03(NEW) Create OTRS patch for "1-click spam" disposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54755 normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; () [03:18:53] 03(mod) Have one click spam button in all message views (like "zoom"/full message), not only in overview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35717 (10Ryan (Rjd0060)) [03:24:42] 03(mod) Semantic Maps 2.0.1.2 distance queries broken. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46371 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [03:39:27] 03(mod) Potential edit conflicts in Flow must be addressed properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54739 +comment (10qgil) [03:49:27] 03(mod) Visual Editor: Drag and drop requires (re)selection of images then dragging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51665 +comment (10Quim Gil) [04:10:30] 03(NEW) Dragging elements to the end of the page should make a new empty line appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54756 enhancement; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [04:15:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Editing window does not scroll when dragging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51669 +comment (10Quim Gil) [04:17:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Disable drag-and-drop of non-media content in Firefox until we support that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50643 +comment (10Quim Gil) [04:19:01] 03(mod) Visual Editor: Drag and drop of image to head of section does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51666 +comment (10Quim Gil) [04:19:02] 03(mod) Dragging elements to the end of the page should make a new empty line appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54756 (10Quim Gil) [04:36:12] 03(mod) Use VipsScaler to scale TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52045 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:36:15] 03(mod) Use VipsScaler to scale TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52045 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:17:55] 03(mod) subpage breadcrumbs for Programs namespaces on meta.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54753 +comment (10This, that and the other) [05:18:34] 03(mod) Watchlist icon on does not match on desktop and mobile skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54307 +comment (10Quim Gil) [05:21:14] 03(mod) subpage breadcrumbs for Programs namespaces on meta.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54753 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:21:16] 03(mod) subpage breadcrumbs for Programs namespaces on meta.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54753 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:40:36] 03(mod) Show the watch star icon also to anonymous users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54730 +comment (10qgil) [05:44:56] 03(mod) Show the watch star icon also to anonymous desktop users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54730 summary (10Quim Gil) [05:48:58] 03(mod) Watch star icon is not obvious - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23141 +comment (10Quim Gil) [06:19:08] 03(mod) Show the watch star icon also to anonymous desktop users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54730 +comment (10b) [06:32:15] 03(mod) Use VipsScaler to scale TIFFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52045 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:46:45] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Show user that drag-and-drop of textual content in Firefox is not supported - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54757 enhancement; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [06:46:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Disable drag-and-drop of non-media content in Firefox until we support that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50643 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [06:48:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Disable drag-and-drop of non-media content in Firefox until we support that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50643 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:07:22] 03(mod) Add option for all visitors to toggle Math modes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48036 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [07:11:23] 03(mod) Two default wording of some revision deletion messages needs changing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19592 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:11:26] 03(mod) Two default wording of some revision deletion messages needs changing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19592 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:12:30] 03(mod) Two default wording of some revision deletion messages needs changing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19592 +comment (10This, that and the other) [07:34:24] 03(mod) Show the watch star icon also to anonymous desktop users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54730 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:47:51] 03(NEW) Provide database dumps somewhere on the cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54758 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [07:52:26] 03(mod) Provide database dumps somewhere on the cluster - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54758 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [07:53:43] 03(mod) "Permission error" nasty language for innocent red link clicker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13058 (10Nemo) [07:53:44] 03(mod) Adopt improved interface messages from English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17288 (10Nemo) [08:06:55] 03(mod) Show the watch star icon also to anonymous desktop users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54730 +comment (10Nemo) [08:07:53] Hi, when is the earliest I can call Title::newFromDBKey('MY_NS:Something'); ? When I do that in an extension in the global scope I get "Fatal error: Call to a member function getNsIndex() on a non-object in /home/hannes/wikifip/w/includes/Title.php on line 3117" [08:09:14] skpp: maybe try as an extension function? [08:09:36] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtensionFunctions [08:10:18] legoktm: neat, will try [08:14:24] legoktm: that seems to work, thanks [08:15:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Link insertion doesn't recognise Thai text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53679 +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni) [08:25:25] 03(mod) Add API method for recursively expanding JSON Schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45886 (10Ori Livneh) [08:28:53] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Links are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54759 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [08:45:14] 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons old files errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35367 +comment (10Nemo) [08:45:35] 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons old files errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35367 normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Nemo) [08:53:04] 03(mod) Watchlist icon on does not match on desktop and mobile skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54307 +design; +comment (10Jared Zimmerman (WMF)) [08:57:24] how do I allow on my wiki pages [09:00:28] 03(mod) 404 error for all revisions of some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39615 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [09:00:29] 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons old files errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35367 (10Nemo) [09:00:39] 03(mod) Getting a 404 for an old version of an image at Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24417 (10Nemo) [09:13:34] 03(mod) Complete unification of all accounts to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707 (10Nemo) [09:13:41] 03(mod) Allow global renaming of global users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14862 (10Nemo) [09:15:43] 03(mod) No position slider/seek bar is displayed for audio player - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54370 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [09:39:57] 03(NEW) sendConfirmAndMigrateEmail.php: add an option to include emailconfirmed accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54760 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; () [09:39:59] 03(mod) Complete unification of all accounts to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707 (10Nemo) [09:43:05] 03(mod) sendConfirmAndMigrateEmail.php: add an option to include emailconfirmed accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54760 (10Nemo) [09:43:06] 03(mod) Migrate to SUL all non-clashing accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39817 (10Nemo) [09:57:18] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function getModel() on a non-object at ContentHandler.php on line 910 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54661 +comment (10aklapper) [10:05:30] 03(NEW) EmailableUser calls non-existing class ConfirmAndMigrateUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54761 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; () [10:05:33] 03(mod) Complete unification of all accounts to SUL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707 (10Nemo) [10:13:14] 03(mod) EmailableUser calls non-existing class ConfirmAndMigrateUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54761 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:13:15] 03(mod) EmailableUser calls non-existing class ConfirmAndMigrateUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54761 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:23:04] re [10:23:21] I'm using the api to get pages for a new robot [10:27:01] I ask for a parsed version of the page - but I get a strange output - instead of a seeing a html string I am seeing an version with no tags [10:31:48] any idea why this is so and how to recover the html source for further processing ? [10:37:34] 03(mod) Python support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54699 +comment (10My name is not dave) [10:48:15] 03(mod) zimwriter should sort the mime types it gets before writing to file. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52324 (10Kelson [Emmanuel Engelhart]) [11:21:22] 03(mod) 404 error for all revisions of some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39615 +comment (10maic274) [11:21:47] 03(mod) Use a better CentralAuth icon for loginwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54500 (10This, that and the other) [11:25:06] 03(mod) Getting a 404 for an old version of an image at Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24417 +comment (10Marco) [11:28:48] 03(mod) 404 error for all revisions of some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39615 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:42:12] 03(mod) 404 error for all revisions of some files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39615 +comment (10maic274) [11:42:59] 03(mod) Diff-view for reordered snaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54319 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:47:30] 03(mod) Jenkins: Overhaul the phpcs macro - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48420 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:51:04] 03(NEW) find a way to deploy PHPUnit on production machines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54762 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [11:51:04] 03(mod) configure jobs to be runnable on any slaves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53594 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:52:09] 03(NEW) make all pep8 jobs voting per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54763 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [11:52:38] 03(NEW) make all pyflakes jobs voting per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54764 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [11:52:44] 03(mod) make all pyflakes jobs voting per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54764 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [11:52:45] 03(mod) make all pep8 jobs voting per default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54763 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:14:53] is there a way to get an articles content *without* using the Title object? [12:16:24] ah I guess asking the DB would work [12:20:52] 03(mod) Line breaks changes behavior of "#" inside of tables: it generates bulleted lists instead of an ordered one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40274 +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [12:25:29] 03(NEW) Page move from content namespace to non-content namespace does not decrease {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54765 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; () [12:26:31] umm, where is the article content saved in the DB? [12:32:17] ok found it but it's gzipped.. [12:36:10] skpp, why would you want the content without using the Title? [12:36:11] Hey guys, I'm struggling with my CSS to look for the code that sets color/style for Ul and lists [12:36:23] I can't even find the one wikipedia is using to have blue circles... [12:36:31] btw, it may be gzipped or not [12:36:34] Tried everything, anyone has an idea to help? [12:36:40] it can even be on a different system [12:37:17] Izual, if it's a customization over the default mediawiki look at MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Vector.css in that wiki [12:37:28] (replace Vector with the skin name if it's a different one) [12:37:38] Platonides: because using a title causes MWNamespaces to create a cache of canonical namespaces which can't be changed after a Title object has been used once. I need to change the namespaces though [12:39:20] 03(mod) wmgHTTPSBlacklistCountries changes for CN - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53739 +comment (10liangent) [12:40:09] there are some hooks for changing namespaces [12:40:26] what are you trying to achieve? [12:41:48] Platonides: Adding namespaces based on the content of a page (the content is XML, like ) [12:42:43] hooks are sparse when it comes to namespaces. adding them to $wgExtraNamespaces has no effect once a title object has been initialized [12:43:21] what do you think will happend when someone removes that line? [12:43:33] Platonides: I know what happens [12:43:36] all pages in that namespace will disappear [12:43:53] Platonides: yes, I know. [12:43:58] and if adding, it will be pages with Foo: prefix that will disappear [12:44:17] the page is for admins only [12:44:40] still... [12:44:45] it is a requirement whether its stupid or not [12:44:53] if you want something like this, make it a Special page [12:44:58] hi [12:45:16] hello ahmed__ [12:46:10] i have my site based in mediawiki and i need to use tikiwiki with the same database, it can?? [12:46:25] hello Platonides [12:46:41] you can use different prefixes for the two wikis [12:46:50] so both can use the same database [12:46:57] but the wikis will be separate [12:47:07] you can't make tikiwiki read mediawiki pages [12:47:14] or mediawiki read tikiwiki pages [12:47:32] skpp: Ideally you should use a special page and store those new namespaces on a new table (and cache it if you can). Don't try to parse a page contents each time a request is made to your wiki, that would be a heavy performance impact [12:47:44] Platonides: thanks, seems to work now [12:48:05] i loved tikiwiki editor [12:48:25] it's simple [12:49:15] Vulpix: yeah that makes sense [12:49:41] 03(mod) Clarify zero markers in squid logs for IPs that should not get one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53806 (10christian) [12:50:14] Nemo_bis: hi, for the logging problem on uk.wikimedia.org, it seems that the WMF prod version does not save the data in the same way like before. [12:50:24] Nemo_bis: do you know a date for 1.22 release? [12:51:27] Vulpix: but I'd have to create a whole CRUD infrastructure for that whereas the xml parser is already in place [12:51:58] Kelson, it will be listed in mediawiki.org [12:51:59] or are there plugins that can take care of special settings like these? [12:52:37] You can just edit LocalSettings.php and add those namespaces there, that would be the most simple solution [12:52:49] Platonides: I guess so, but for now I would appreciate to know if this is in two monthes or two weeks. [12:53:17] Platonides: that's why I have asked... [12:55:18] Kelson, ask hexmode [12:55:41] Platonides: thx, I will [12:57:01] Kelson: should be November, does the exact day matter? [12:57:29] Kelson: how did you import the data? [12:57:49] and did you see lego's suggestion to use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MediaWikiAuth [12:57:51] apergos: Hi, I think you can close the ticket on the WMF side. So far everything is OK except a problem with the logging data (it seems that the WMF MW 1.22 instance does not save the log params in the same way like WMUK MW 1.20.5 instance read them) [12:58:32] Nemo_bis: thx you, I don't need something more precise... [12:59:49] Nemo_bis: for the rest everything is OK and on running. Lego suggestion came a little bit late and I was uncertain about the maintenance level of the extension... [13:00:34] Vulpix: I know but it's supposed to be changeable by people with no access to the settings [13:03:03] Kelson: I don't understand, are you going to keep hybrid tables until 1.22 comes out? [13:03:19] and are we speaking of logging table or what else here [13:04:48] Nemo_bis: no, I will update to 1.21.2 ASAP [13:04:59] Nemo_bis: as far as I can see only logging table has an issue. [13:05:34] Kelson: does special:contributions now work? [13:06:32] ah yes so you said https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=WMUK_wiki_migration%2Ftech&action=historysubmit&diff=44809&oldid=44801 [13:06:36] how did you fix that? [13:07:22] Nemo_bis: repopulate a few "revisions" table fields which were not correctly set by mwdumper [13:08:07] * Nemo_bis nods [13:09:17] Hey, can I get a bit of a CSS help? I've got this code http://pastebin.com/A8uUh5Pk but it doesn't work as expected, since my text is colored as well as my dots (the colored dots is what I'm looking for) [13:09:43] Using the tryit at w3school to preview my code effect. [13:22:36] Nemo_bis: Yah, mwdumper is ancient, basically it misses anything introduced since 2005 [13:24:05] jarry1250: hmm, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps/mwdumper is not so negative [13:24:31] I think it's more like he just transfers data blindly from one place to another? [13:24:34] *it [13:25:25] Nemo_bis: Not at all, it simply doesn't have the capacity to handle unknown fields [13:25:50] hmm [13:26:06] Nemo_bis: At the very least it needs an xml-tag => field mapping for the newer fields, and I can't see that in it at all [13:26:46] But more generally, if you look at its definition of a Revision object, it just doesn't have all the required properties. [13:27:21] It does get patched occasionally, but I don't think it's been comprehensively reviewed since about 2005, as I say. [13:27:22] jarry1250: more like this? https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Data_dumps%2Fmwdumper&diff=5875500&oldid=5875447 [13:27:45] you could edit the page directly ;) we can't leave all the docs writing to our helpful Ariel [13:30:18] 03(mod) Wikimedia Commons old files errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35367 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [13:30:22] Nemo_bis: I've added to that, yes :) [13:30:56] jarry1250: thanks [13:31:22] 03(mod) Rename "chapcomwiki" to "affcomwiki" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39482 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:35:48] 03(mod) Accessibility for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34750 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:39:47] jarry1250: can the log problem be fixed by populateLogSearch.php then? [13:41:44] Nemo_bis: Kelson doesn't think so. I'm not actually sure what the log search table is used for, mind. [13:42:11] The current working hypothesis is that changes to the storage of log entries are to blame [13:42:22] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:42:23] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:42:25] Because the wiki is currently pretty behind (1.20.5) [13:42:25] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:42:28] 03(mod) Deploy extension Memento on Wikipedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34778 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:42:34] but with data from 1.22wmfXX [13:42:58] yes, there were a couple (!) schema changes according to the wiki page [13:43:05] 03(mod) Tags like are needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16316 +comment (10brion) [13:43:08] though the DESCRIBE logging; in there are quite messy [13:43:15] it seems to be related to revision deletion? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/50567 [13:43:46] Nemo_bis: Ah, that sounds possible [13:43:58] Oh, it seems I registered in 2009, who knew https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nemo [13:44:04] Nemo_bis: In any case, as I say, it looks like this is a case of missing forward compatbility with a breaking change [13:44:45] will the non-imported entries be fixed by update.php? [13:45:16] Nemo_bis: IMO this is not only a schema change, the data serialized in "log_params" seem to be different [13:46:12] I hit that change when I tried to filter autopatrolled entries [13:46:21] gerrit notification bot seems gone rogue [13:47:12] ah no it's bugzilla doing that weird message merge [13:48:32] Anyone knows why my lists are coloured and how to stop the color after it has colored the dot? relevant css part: http://pastebin.com/A8uUh5Pk [13:49:01] I'm sure it's only missing a small thing. [13:51:38] Izual: Place the text into another element, and set a specific color for that element. Or use a image for the bullet, where you can freely control it's shape and color [13:52:14] ouch, I forgot to document that small log_params thing I found [13:52:36] Vulpix, I see. The image solution is widely used. But can't I use a "reset"? I saw a mention of that somewhere. [13:54:20] There's an "inherit" value, but you definitively need a new element for the text, and I'm not sure if that would work [13:56:41] hmm alright, thanks Vulpix [13:56:46] I think I'm going to use a picture ;p [13:56:52] Kelson: this is what I had to do for my query; no idea in general https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3ALogging_table&diff=792878&oldid=721408 [13:58:23] Nemo_bis: ok, good to now but not sure we speak here about the same thing. I focus now on the next MW upgrade tomorrow [14:00:11] 03(mod) Extension req: embed Mozilla Skywriter editor for CSS, JS pages with syntax highlighting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26343 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [14:03:52] Vulpix: can I adjust the location of the picture so that it is located in the middle of where the text is, vertically speaking? [14:04:09] something like adjust-bottom 3px; or adjust-middle maybe? [14:04:13] totally noobish question :p [14:04:35] 03(mod) Allowing HTML tag to identify e.g. English text embedded in a non-English page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28920 +comment (10brion) [14:06:38] 03(mod) New user pref: Image size limit for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36238 +comment (10brion) [14:07:25] To be more specific, margin-bottom: 2px; doesn't fit all font sizes... Can I say margin-bottom: middle;? [14:10:51] Izual: the bullet image is normally vertical aligned to the middle of text, without having to change anything [14:11:59] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Add support for @embed of images over urls in CSSMin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40832 +comment (10brion) [14:14:39] Vulpix: it obviously doesn't :( http://i.imgur.com/BbhfbNF.png [14:16:20] Izual: you can change the line-height property (that would affect text, not the image). And also edit the image and add a transparent padding at the bottom [14:16:56] but the padding I'll add will fit only this font size, if the font size is enhanced lated the image won't be aligned again [14:17:19] line-height property sounds like a good solution though? [14:19:34] 03(mod) Add support to embed commons videos in wikimedia blogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25269 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [14:21:38] 03(mod) TimedMediaHandler: support video transcoding to MP4/H.264 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39867 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [14:22:15] Izual: I think the bullet position is fine as it is now. Unless all text is in caps, the text "weight" is at the mid-bottom of the line, not at the exact middle [14:23:17] 03(mod) Commons uploads: Support automatic conversion of video formats to free formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43150 +comment (10brion) [14:23:21] hah, you're right, it's aligned with uncapped letters. Hadn't noticed that. [14:25:17] alright, thanks Vulpix, you rock as usual ;) [14:25:56] yw :) [14:26:04] Anyone know who Rob Moen is? [14:26:31] Pm is okay for response. [14:26:53] one of the visualeditor devs [14:27:00] Ve thanks [14:27:17] rmoen or irc [14:27:28] on* [14:28:15] 03(mod) Allow users to disable javascript on site in site settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36838 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [14:31:36] ashley, any risk of spammers if I open comments to everyone? I see wikis often have them open, but there's no way of knowing if they just don't have any spam problem or if they spend one hour each day cleaning them in comments [14:32:22] 03(mod) automatic encouragements to use OGE instead of cronjobs, when appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54720 +comment (10Platonides) [14:33:31] 03(mod) Make sure our JavaScript - in particular jQuery and extensions - are GPL compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47429 +comment (10brion) [14:34:12] Izual: if your wiki is writable by the public, there's always a risk of spam [14:35:28] yes indeed, but did you get any feedback about that? [14:36:03] so far? nope, can't remember getting any -- most of the feedback is on the respective extension talk pages on MediaWiki.org [14:37:23] ok, thanks for your time [14:53:46] any chance we might see SSI support on the resource loader, other than ESI? [14:53:56] (ESI doesn't work with nginx :/) [14:55:49] or, any other tips to improve resourceloader's performance? [15:00:06] 03(mod) New user pref: Image size limit for embedded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36238 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [15:01:16] 03(mod) Export of SVG images to PDF or PS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45640 +comment (10brion) [15:02:45] 03(mod) Commons uploads: Support automatic conversion of video formats to free formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43150 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [15:16:19] 03(mod) Switch to MuPDF for thumbnailing PDFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36594 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [15:18:59] 03(mod) Commons uploads: Support automatic conversion of video formats to free formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43150 +comment (10brion) [15:30:33] Based on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Web_updater I'm supposed to have a /mw-config page on my wiki, but I don't [15:30:37] is it normal? [15:30:55] Was a bit my last chance to run update.php [15:33:35] 03(mod) Devise Nginx+HHVM config for app servers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54173 +comment (10brion) [15:33:39] Izual: If you installed MediaWiki using a linux distribution package or an automated installation script from a shared host, yes, it's possible you don't have that [15:33:45] otherwise, you should have it [15:34:36] I think it might be that, yes [15:34:43] Vulpix: any workaround? Can I create it myself? [15:35:38] /maybe/ copying that folder from the same tarball version might work [15:56:28] 03(mod) No position slider/seek bar is displayed for audio player - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54370 +comment (10mdale) [16:12:37] 03(mod) Commons uploads: Support automatic conversion of video formats to free formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43150 +comment (10mdale) [16:12:45] 03(mod) Inline-block lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1187 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [16:19:34] 03(mod) add DOI URI support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1378 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [16:25:31] 03(mod) External links to .doc/.odf/.swf/image files should have their own custom icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1578 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [16:30:11] 03(mod) Impossible to add interwiki links if the article has none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48842 +comment (10maps) [16:40:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inserting a reference breaks up annotations around it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54587 +comment (10esanders) [16:49:18] 03(mod) Use CSS counter properties for numbering sections, reducing parser cache fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2366 +comment (10brion) [17:09:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't remove categories or change sort key from 'Page Settings' modal in latest build - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54727 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:11:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't remove categories or change sort key from 'Page Settings' modal in latest build - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54727 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:14:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Blanking the page using Ctrl-A and Delete keys prevents further editing in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50947 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:42:11] 03(mod) Clarify zero markers in squid logs for IPs that should not get one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53806 (10christian) [18:11:42] 03(mod) dewiki shows more and more old cached version instead of the current one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54647 +comment (10Platonides) [18:37:17] 03(mod) Special:UnconnectedPages lists connected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53562 +comment (10samat78) [19:07:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Can't remove categories from 'Page Settings' modal in latest build - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54727 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [19:10:29] 03(NEW) No formatter defined for data type globe-coordinate nor for value type bad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54766 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [19:14:49] i've made some updates to my css file for my skin, but it's still using the old css file [19:14:55] it has a ?303 on the end of it right now [19:14:59] which has the old code [19:15:04] if i put 304 on the end, it works properly [19:15:35] how do i get the page to update tot he new code? [19:16:59] did you do a hard refresh? [19:18:52] yep [19:18:56] ctrl+f5 from firefox [19:19:00] and a action=purge [19:24:15] 03(NEW) ItemPage.get() chokes on labels with a 'removed' value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54767 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [19:30:42] Prodi, set $wgStyleVersion = '304'; in your LocalSettings.php [19:30:58] or to anything else,, eg: $wgStyleVersion = '303-Prodi'; [19:32:03] ok [19:32:25] i've never used that parameter before [19:32:55] $wgStyleVersion is just that 303 you are seeing [19:33:06] it's just a dummy parameter to force cache invalidation [19:33:23] so i can set it temporarily and then clear it? [19:34:24] it's the user browser what sees it [19:34:35] it has foo.css?303 cached for a long time [19:34:58] however, when you tell it to ask for foo.css?anythingelse, as the url is different it has to actually ask the server [19:35:07] even though in the server both urls lead to the same file [19:36:27] right, so the main.css?303 is in the browser cache, or server cache? [19:38:46] 03(NEW) action=wbcreateclaim undid my previous action in some situations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54768 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [19:39:00] 03(mod) action=wbcreateclaim undid my previous action in some situations, creating a data loss - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54768 summary (10Liangent) [19:40:25] 03(mod) action=wbcreateclaim undid my previous action in some situations, causing a data loss - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54768 summary (10Liangent) [19:44:02] 03(mod) ItemPage.get() chokes on labels with a 'removed' value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54767 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:44:05] 03(mod) ItemPage.get() chokes on labels with a 'removed' value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54767 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:46:36] 03(mod) Support for create a new item from ItemPage.editEntity() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54545 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [19:48:33] 03(mod) "Start updating data" button has no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42031 +comment (10Nischay Nahata) [19:57:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54759 +comment (10brion) [20:19:14] 03(NEW) Targets of interwiki redirects shouldn't be titleblacklist-checked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54769 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TitleBlacklist; () [20:54:18] Right, scribunto question [20:54:31] I'm returning constructed tags, and they don't appear to get parsed [20:54:38] Should I not be doing that, or is there a trick? [20:54:44] https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:MarkTraceur/Testing_temperature_conversion_like_a_boss [20:55:20] marktraceur: wild guess: use {{#tag:ref|content|name=asd}} [20:55:24] Aha. [20:55:33] Thanks, MatmaRex [20:55:34] is scribunto's output parser anyway? [20:55:38] parsed* [20:55:50] I think so, usually [20:56:06] tags are kinda mean [20:56:17] Lulz, that didn't work at all [20:56:18] for example nested tags are normally not parsed [20:56:38] MatmaRex: I feel like part of the trick might be to call the module from a template [20:58:11] Hm, nope [20:59:18] vvv, Tim-away, any thoughts? [20:59:51] it looks like the output is not expanded [21:00:05] i think there's some function to expand it [21:01:04] ah [21:01:07] marktraceur: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#frame:extensionTag ? [21:02:11] Aha [21:02:12] Hi all, does anybody know if there is a way to hide the history to unregistered users? Thanks [21:02:42] Which means I'll need to pass frame into my functions, which is narsty [21:09:37] mc128k, hide history? [21:09:48] as in, don't show any history at all? or restrict certain entries? [21:14:19] @Krenair I would like guests not to see some parts that have been deleted. I know I can delete the entire history, but then if I need it..? [21:15:13] It would just be a restriction on the history for not-registered users [21:16:29] mc128k, if you enable revision deletion you can hide the revisions containing private info [21:17:15] Hrm, maybe I'm thinking about this wrong, maybe this should be a tooltip or something [21:20:57] mc128k: if you want to just hide the history tab from non-logged in users, you can do it with css [21:21:19] Yeah, that would do it. Is there a doc for this please? [21:21:48] Oh wait, just hide, isn't it? If they know the URL then the history is shown? [21:23:04] lol [21:23:12] mc128k, did you see my message? [21:25:53] about revision deletion? [21:26:12] I'm currently looking at how this works [21:26:38] 03(mod) LESS compiler should preserve the position of CSSMin / CSSJanus annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54673 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [21:28:03] 03(NEW) Semantic Forms show on select broken in current master (problem with dynatree javascript) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54770 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; () [21:34:06] Krenair: Ok, this looks like what I was looking for. I think I will use both the CSS "hack" and the revision deletion feature. Thank you guys. [21:34:27] mc128k, CSS hack to hide the history tab? [21:34:36] yeah [21:34:44] that's so useless against anyone who has used a mediawiki wiki before [21:34:53] and revision deletion for deleting important stuff [21:34:57] 03(NEW) SubPageList not showing the subpages right for other pages? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54771 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SubPageList; () [21:35:10] I know this ; ) I will delete sensitive stuff with the revdel [21:36:28] 03(mod) dewiki shows more and more old cached version instead of the current one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54647 +comment (10bjorsch) [21:39:42] 03(mod) LESS compiler should preserve the position of CSSMin / CSSJanus annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54673 +comment (10ori) [21:40:15] 03(mod) Migrate to SUL all non-clashing accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39817 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:45:45] 03(mod) automatic encouragements to use OGE instead of cronjobs, when appropriate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54720 (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [22:20:00] 03(NEW) Assign ID's to the DIVs in Chameleon skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54772 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Chameleon; () [22:55:56] 03(mod) Assign ID's to the DIVs in Chameleon skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54772 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:55:58] 03(mod) Assign ID's to the DIVs in Chameleon skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54772 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:59:45] We're having some issues with sessions on https://orain.org . They time out very quickly (sometimes within minutes). Why could that be? [23:00:49] kudu: server configuration issues [23:02:08] Betacommand: what server configuration issue? [23:02:39] kudu: it could be a doze or more things [23:02:47] *dozen [23:03:14] kudu: what makes you think its a mediawiki issue? [23:05:25] 03(mod) (1.19.1) Fatal error: Call to undefined method TempFSFile::autocollect() in /var/lib/mediawiki/extensions/Math/MathRenderer.php on line 129 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46038 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [23:05:51] hm [23:12:35] Hi all, can I ask about parsoid here? [23:18:38] mc128k: Of course! [23:18:53] #mediawiki-parsoid might be better in some ways, but there are Parsoid developers and users here too. [23:20:01] I'm having problems getting parsoid working in a private wiki [23:20:19] I'm currently trying this... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Parsoid#Set_up_in_web_server.3F [23:22:30] no, it doesn't work. [23:23:51] mc128k: Private wikis (i.e. wikis that can't be accessed without credentials) aren't currently supported [23:24:26] hm, that explains everything. Is there a workaround? [23:25:02] mc128k: Not AFAIK, but there's work in progress to support it [23:25:36] Great, thank you. [23:25:52] mc128k: Actually, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Parsoid#Installing_on_a_private_wiki [23:25:56] That's pretty clever [23:26:38] didn't work, sorry [23:27:19] I'm working on it still [23:27:53] 'kay [23:28:01] Please do respond on the thread if you get it working [23:29:39] Betacommand: any clue why it might be though? [23:32:41] Well, apparently the trick is working because if I navigate from the server itself I see the pages without logging in.. BUT parsoid says 404 because it's not authorized. That's weird [23:35:23] kudu: what makes you think its a mediawiki issue? [23:41:53] What does "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 37,225 seconds may not appear in this list." Mean? [23:42:15] Is enwp really lagging that bad? [23:42:29] Technical_13: see -operations [23:43:44] marktraceur: Ok, I give up. Even making the wiki open didn't work. I will try tomorrow. Thank you for the tips [23:50:10] I installed mediawiki 1.12.1 this morning just fine everything works.... now I need help setting it up [23:50:40] and getting it to work right and look right I am looking for some help via skype to get this up and running [23:52:48] 03(NEW) Receiving OTRS follow-up notification emails for tickets that they are not associated with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54773 normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; () [23:54:48] does anyone actually talk in here or is it just bots? [23:56:12] Beep [23:57:03] boop [23:57:13] DJJeff: Have you read the installation guide? [23:57:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_guide [23:59:32] boop beep boop [23:59:44] Beep boop [23:59:54] i'm willing to pay someone per hour to help me I've read guides and forums and google searched