[00:00:33] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki oversighters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54290 (10rschen7754.wiki) [00:06:59] 03(mod) When using UCA collations, Persian digits (۰ ۱ ۲ ۳ ۴ ۵ ۶ ۷ ۸ ۹) sorted under Western Arabic digits' (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) headings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55630 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:07:23] 03(mod) [Regression]: mediawiki.notification: div#mw-notification-area remains visible and steals events after dismissing notification, interferes with VisualEditor, makes vector-hover-dropdown closing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52659 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [00:09:14] 03(NEW) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [00:09:46] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 (10Carlos Mora (White Master King)) [00:09:56] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 (10Carlos Mora (White Master King)) [00:16:50] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 +shell (10p858snake) [00:25:08] 03(mod) Create mailing list for wikidatawiki oversighters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54290 +comment (10jalexander) [00:33:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox allows cursor to get into illegal position around wide objects (, , etc), leading to corruption, and prevents down arrow button navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51957 summary; +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [00:48:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Page down and page up not working as expected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53750 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [00:48:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Firefox allows cursor to get into illegal position around wide objects (, , etc), leading to corruption, and prevents down arrow button navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51957 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [01:08:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Moving cursor up or down before a reference behaves as page up/down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50726 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [01:08:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Page down and page up not working as expected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53750 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [01:08:34] Hi... so I've added the ConfirmEdit and ReCaptcha extensions using these instructions http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#ReCaptcha [01:08:36] and it did… literally nothing [01:09:05] oooo wait [01:11:21] 03(NEW) Lang tag parsing is case-sensitive (should be case-insensitive) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55666 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [02:01:31] is there a way to query a list of pages that have (broken) language links ? [02:10:48] 03(mod) Add thanks links on Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49541 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [02:20:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Bypass browser blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51765 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [03:08:38] For some reason, any code page is not working properly, can anyone help? http://sarkarverse.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [03:12:55] "not working" is extremely descriptive… [03:13:52] abcd1234: What's not working? [04:02:41] 03(NEW) Wikidata diff shows in a different language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55667 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [04:09:48] hi all [04:09:50] how to make wordpress to support wikimedia syntax? [04:11:29] You can use WP MarkItUp!, a WordPress plug-in: http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-markitup/ [04:11:41] But it only supports a limited subset of Wikitext. [04:11:56] Probably enough for what you have in mind. [04:46:27] 03(mod) "View history" tab missing in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28458 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [04:48:03] 03(NEW) Jenkins -1s over JSDuck warnings unrelated to patch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55668 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [05:14:55] 03(mod) Random error when logging in to Wikipedia and on editing pages with Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20022 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [05:25:28] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 (10Carlos Mora (White Master King)) [05:39:41] 03(mod) NS Portale (it:voy) and Portal (de:voy) to be considered as content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55620 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:39:42] 03(mod) NS Portale (it:voy) and Portal (de:voy) to be considered as content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55620 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:43:37] 03(NEW) Script includes should check window.mw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55669 normal; MediaWiki: ResourceLoader; () [05:48:24] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:48:26] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:50:21] Anyone knows if its possible to hide history of bot edits to pages? [05:54:26] 03(mod) Random error when logging in to Wikipedia and on editing pages with Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20022 +comment (10jayvdb) [05:56:35] Nischayn22, deletelogentry [05:58:05] White_Master: So, I have to go and delete the logs separately? [05:58:26] Nischayn22, yes. [05:58:54] I think there would/should be an option in the api methods [05:59:21] Nischayn22, Well, no. I think you can make the edits you want to delete. [05:59:34] mark* [06:00:06] In fact, you can. [06:00:13] I don't want to delete edits [06:00:40] I want to edit,create using a bot; and not show it on the history [06:00:50] delete/hide [06:02:21] Nischayn22, As such, can only be done manually with deletelogentry [06:02:41] Otherwise, do not know. [06:03:01] Okay, so I assume I can delete log entries for a specific user [06:03:46] Yes. [06:04:54] Or a number of users, if you mark the boxes for the logs you want to hide [06:11:34] 03(mod) eswikivoyage: Enable autopatroller group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55665 (10This, that and the other) [06:36:21] 03(mod) On mobile, wikivoyage.org redirects to www.m.wikivoyage.org which does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48318 +comment (10This, that and the other) [07:26:18] 03(NEW) Public drafts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55670 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Drafts; () [07:36:12] 03(mod) Review and deploy Drafts extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37992 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:36:16] 03(mod) Public drafts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55670 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:36:33] 03(mod) draft_edittime is same for all the drafts of an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19701 summary (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:36:46] 03(mod) draft_edittime is same for all the drafts of an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19701 (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:54:42] 03(mod) Breadcrumb (#isin magic word) doesn't update in preview mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54831 summary (10Andyrom75) [08:13:56] 03(mod) Requesting adding AdorshoLipi font for Bangla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52719 +comment (10jayantanth) [08:18:58] 03(mod) Preserve user language when calling API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55664 (10Rainer Rillke @commons.wikimedia) [08:46:34] Hello, how to add a Cite link in Wikieditor? [08:57:25] 03(mod) Some IPs hidden without any log or apparent reason on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35578 +comment (10This, that and the other) [09:13:48] 03(mod) Unable to access mobilefrontend on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55662 +comment (10Max Semenik) [09:18:20] 03(mod) Preserve user language when calling API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55664 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:18:25] 03(mod) Preserve user language when calling API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55664 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:18:44] 03(mod) Existing pages does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55414 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:18:50] 03(mod) Existing pages does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55414 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:19:54] 03(mod) Existing pages does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55414 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:23:29] 03(mod) Existing pages does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55414 +comment (10xqt) [09:24:03] 03(mod) Can't switch from Zero to desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52536 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:33:12] 03(NEW) Echo: incomplete page name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55671 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [09:45:19] 03(mod) Preserve user language when calling API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55664 +comment (10rainerrillke) [09:48:29] 03(mod) sulinfo is unusable (takes tens of seconds) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53987 +comment (10federicoleva) [10:04:56] 03(mod) Wikidata diff shows in a different language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55667 (10Lydia Pintscher) [10:05:15] 03(mod) Diffs cache localized message for parts of entity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55509 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [10:05:18] 03(mod) Wikidata diff shows in a different language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55667 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [10:41:33] 03(mod) Incorrect signs via numerical keypad on de.wp in Source Editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54646 +comment (10mr.heat) [11:04:24] 03(NEW) Tooltips with list of rights on Special:MWOAuthManageMyGrants/manage/NN can be partially offscreen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55672 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAuth; () [11:13:18] 03(mod) Public drafts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55670 +comment (10Helder) [11:17:56] 03(mod) Add tag to the "source" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55657 summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:19:13] 03(mod) "View history" tab missing in Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28458 (10Andre Klapper) [11:19:32] 03(NEW) Migrate "DrTrigon's tools" (pywikibot/bots/drtrigonbot) bugs from JIRA (TS) to Bugzilla (set up product etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55673 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [11:22:41] 03(mod) Migrate "DrTrigon's tools" (pywikibot/bots/drtrigonbot) bugs from JIRA (TS) to Bugzilla (set up product etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55673 (10DrTrigon) [11:22:41] 03(mod) Migrate Pywikibot bugs from Sourceforge to Bugzilla (set up product etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52692 (10DrTrigon) [11:41:38] 03(mod) [TUX] Buttons to insert non-translatable parts like parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10aklapper) [11:52:38] 03(mod) Migrate "DrTrigon's tools" (pywikibot/bots/drtrigonbot) bugs from JIRA (TS) to Bugzilla (set up product etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55673 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [11:54:01] 03(mod) Implement a "sameAs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55653 normal->15enhancement (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:57:33] 03(mod) [TUX] Buttons to insert non-translatable parts like parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 (10Niklas Laxström) [12:04:43] 03(mod) [TUX] Buttons to insert non-translatable parts like parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10federicoleva) [12:14:00] 03(mod) Better "start page" for ItemDisambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55466 +comment (10Bene*) [12:34:27] 03(mod) Database connection errors display IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26811 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:34:29] 03(mod) Database connection errors display IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26811 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:32:49] 03(mod) allow ftp links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54103 +comment (10Bene*) [13:33:08] 03(mod) Better "start page" for ItemDisambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55466 (10Bene*) [14:05:01] 03(mod) Legends of the Special:Preferences should appear as Nav Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54931 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:05:03] 03(mod) Legends of the Special:Preferences should appear as Nav Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54931 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:06:23] 03(mod) Legends of the Special:Preferences should appear as Nav Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54931 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:08:57] 03(mod) Migrate "DrTrigon's tools" (pywikibot/bots/drtrigonbot) bugs from JIRA (TS) to Bugzilla (set up product etc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55673 +comment (10dr.trigon) [14:09:33] 03(mod) Legends of the Special:Preferences should appear as Nav Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54931 (10s7eph4n) [14:17:43] 03(mod) Please enable MediaWiki-Bugzilla extension in Wikitech - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46908 +comment (10dvanliere) [14:53:27] 03(mod) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'NullHandler' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55663 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:53:29] 03(mod) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'NullHandler' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55663 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:53:47] 03(mod) Jenkins -1s over JSDuck warnings unrelated to patch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55668 +comment (10hashar) [15:15:33] 03(NEW) Paragraph in references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55674 normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; () [15:49:37] 03(NEW) Math: MathJax parses errors generated by Extension:Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55675 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Math; () [15:57:32] information: can wm-bot store a def that has two words in it? [16:01:39] 03(mod) "No" interstitial link routes through Desktop Wikipedia domain name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55578 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:46:24] 03(mod) allow ftp links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54103 +comment (10aklapper) [16:46:29] 03(mod) Better "start page" for ItemDisambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55466 +comment (10aklapper) [16:49:58] 03(mod) Remove "Justify paragraphs" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52810 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:49:59] 03(mod) "justify paragraphs" preference is applied too strongly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28593 (10Andre Klapper) [16:52:53] 03(mod) No paragraphs/linebreaks in references by inserting empty lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55674 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:01:37] Hey all. So, I'm spinning up a new MediaWiki instance, and it's telling me that PostgreSQL is not recommended for production. However, it's listing Oracle, SQLite, and DB2 as being alternative databases. The PostgreSQL manual on the MediaWiki site merely notes that Wikipedia doesn't use PostgreSQL, but presumably they're not using Oracle or DB2 either. I'm curious why there is no warning note attached to those as well. It seems like MySQL zealo [17:03:47] there's a bug with wm-bot, please join #wm-bot [17:04:37] ChibaPet: What version of MediaWiki? DB2 was dropped for being very unmaintained [17:05:16] Reedy: 1.19.5-1+deb7u1 [17:05:34] I'd highly advise against using debian packages for mediawiki [17:05:37] Reedy: But knowing that makes me feel better. It seemed odd to see the warning for just the one I happen to like. [17:06:11] Yeah, I've heard pros and cons - mostly cons - and I'll consider installing from tarball too at some point. [17:07:49] MySQL is best supported/maintained [17:08:03] Followed by SQLite as in 99% of the cases the mysql support works for sqlite [17:08:07] SQLite obviously isn't so scalable [17:08:49] I'm considering SQLite too actually. I've always been a fan of PostgreSQL, including back in the day when MySQL wasn't considered something to use in production for anything. I'm having trouble letting go of that. [17:09:16] Wikimedia (Wikipedia) uses MySQL [17:09:20] Facebook uses MySQL [17:09:22] Oh, I know. [17:09:37] Well, actually, that's a lie [17:09:44] But within the last week I've seen things indicating that they're not sticking with it. [17:10:05] s/MySQL/MariaDB/ [17:10:26] Google are also jumping on the MariaDB train [17:10:37] Mm, that. [17:12:08] hi [17:13:56] i need some help , i have my own file it have 213 pages when i upload it the my wiki not uploaded but i tried to upload it to the mediawiki site and uploaded good [17:14:22] All the cool kids are using MariaDB these days :D [17:14:54] Maybe I can be useful by running it on Postgres anyway and submitting bug reports. Make for a more vibrant ecosystem. :P [17:19:44] i need some help , i have my own file it have 213 pages when i upload it the my wiki not uploaded but i tried to upload it to the mediawiki site and uploaded good [17:24:09] is there a way to make the recent changes options box collapsible by default (i.e. show/hide) [17:24:48] i need some help , i have my own file it have 213 pages when i upload it the my wiki not uploaded but i tried to upload it to the mediawiki site and uploaded good [17:27:13] ahmed___: your question makes no sense. what are you uploading and how are you uploading it? what error(s) are you getting? be specific [17:28:01] ahmed___: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Set_maximum_size_for_file_uploads [17:30:23] is there any extension available which allow a user to create custom maps on wiki? [17:31:32] i upload 213 page contain alot of words it uploaded in mediawiki but in my wiki not upload [17:57:17] ( ! ) Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\wamp\www\mediawiki\mediawiki-1.21.1\includes\parser\Parser.php on line 1838 [17:57:34] what is this error ? [17:57:38] do you have a limit on your database? [18:01:47] that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:04:28] vulpix [18:04:38] this is what happened when you said that thing [18:04:41] wm-bot said [18:04:42] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/systemdata.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:17] wat [18:05:21] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/#mediawiki.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:21] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/#wm-bot.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:21] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/##Revi.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:22] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/##DangSunM.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:25] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/systemdata.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:28] join #wm-bot [18:05:41] that seems a PHP max_execution_time limit [18:05:51] nope [18:06:05] * Vulpix kicks wm-bot [18:06:12] sometimes it's from #mediawiki sometimes from #wikimedia-labs [18:07:03] Hmm, Maybe that's because it's trying to create the channel logs and it doesn't have permissions [18:07:18] could be.. [18:07:23] let's see if logs are stored.. [18:07:26] !logs [18:07:26] channel logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/ html version: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wm-bot/logs/index.php?display=%23mediawiki [18:07:40] and it gives the last input from the channel for debugging, but it doesn't have anything to do with the error [18:07:57] look now [18:08:06] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/#mediawiki.htm" is denied. last input was RickyB98 chan: #mediawiki !logs [18:08:06] DEBUG Exception: Access to the path "/mnt/share/wmib/dump/systemdata.htm" is denied. last input was Vulpix chan: #mediawiki and it gives the last input from the channel for debugging, but it doesn't have anything to do with the error [18:08:47] lol [18:09:02] ( ! ) Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\wamp\www\mediawiki\mediawiki-1.21.1\includes\parser\Parser.php on line 1838 [18:09:10] our messages were not shown here http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20131013.txt [18:09:19] !lol [18:09:24] how can i open the limit in my database? [18:09:25] !tss [18:09:26] ZOMG!! http://goo.gl/e2631 (join #semantic-mediawiki) [18:10:13] this appear when i try to edit the page with alot of big words [18:10:45] ahmed__: raise the max_execution_time http://www.php.net/manual/info.configuration.php#ini.max-execution-time [18:12:35] where i can find the limit execution [18:13:21] ahmed__: in php.ini [18:15:37] it's the same problem [18:17:26] how i increase the limit of database?? [18:18:33] there's no limit on the database [18:19:27] 03(mod) [TUX] Buttons to insert non-translatable parts like parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:21:08] so why when i try to upload alot of words it's not upload and in mediawiki site upload [18:24:43] 03(mod) Remove "Justify paragraphs" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52810 +comment (10b) [18:25:52] 03(mod) "justify paragraphs" preference is applied too strongly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28593 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:41:27] 03(mod) [TUX] Buttons to insert non-translatable parts like parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38350 +comment (10federicoleva) [18:49:01] 03(mod) Remove Makesysop extension from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20291 summary (10MZMcBride) [18:52:34] 03(mod) SubPageList not showing the subpages right for other pages? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54771 +comment (10Jamie Thingelstad) [18:54:09] hi [18:55:33] 03(mod) Database tables to be dropped on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52921 (10MZMcBride) [18:55:33] 03(NEW) Drop database table "email_capture" from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55676 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [18:56:09] can someone help me regarding the process as to how i may contact a mediawiki mentor [18:56:13] 03(mod) Remove EmailCapture extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48480 +comment (10MZMcBride) [18:56:16] 03(mod) Drop database table "email_capture" from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55676 (10MZMcBride) [18:56:27] i am new in the world of open source [18:56:42] but want to contribute and be active in the same [18:57:04] can i get some help and guidance regarding the same? [18:58:35] 03(NEW) Add "Create new article" link to the menu of Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55677 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [18:59:41] 03(mod) SubPageList not showing the subpages right for other pages? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54771 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [19:09:54] 03(mod) SubPageList not showing the subpages right for other pages? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54771 +comment (10jamie) [19:09:58] 03(NEW) Investigate merging the WikimediaShopLink extension into the WikimediaMessages extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55678 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [19:11:57] Elsie: "investigate" is the new "needs further thought"? [19:12:12] :D :D [19:12:17] MatmaRex: You love it. [19:12:23] And I love it. [19:12:24] We love it. [19:13:20] fix wm-bot bug [19:13:20] fix wm-bot bug [19:13:21] fix wm-bot bug [19:13:26] join #wm-bot [19:13:27] join #wm-bot [19:13:27] join #wm-bot [19:13:33] Hi RickyB98. [19:13:42] You're speaking in the #mediawiki support channel right now. [19:13:49] i know :) [19:13:57] thanks for reminding me about that :) [19:14:00] :-) [19:14:14] seems like wm-bot is not storing logs [19:14:23] and sometimes shows an error in #wm-bot [19:14:27] petan may know. [19:14:41] MAY know... [19:14:50] MAY NOT know [19:19:08] 03(mod) Provide dynamic report of differences between replica databases and production databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55455 +comment (10b) [19:19:10] 03(mod) Investigate merging the WikimediaShopLink extension into the WikimediaMessages extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55678 +comment (10federicoleva) [19:23:52] 03(mod) Investigate merging the WikimediaShopLink extension into the WikimediaMessages extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55678 +comment (10b) [19:24:34] can someone check if wm-bot's bug is already filed in bugzilla? [19:25:15] !b wm-bot [19:25:15] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/wm-bot [19:25:32] hmmm, I though it was changed to perform a query? [19:26:12] nope, !b requires a number.. [19:27:28] no, it hasn't been filed, apparently https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&component=WM-Bot&product=Tools&list_id=241194 [19:27:51] Vulpix, would you file it please? [19:28:02] 03(NEW) Review and deploy OAuth extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55679 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; () [19:28:14] Sorry, I don't know what to put, apart from the error message [19:28:18] 03(mod) Deploy OAuth to test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54071 +comment (10b) [19:29:08] heh, same for me :P [19:29:19] 03(mod) Deploy OAuth to test wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54071 (10MZMcBride) [19:29:22] 03(mod) Review and deploy OAuth extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55679 (10MZMcBride) [19:31:42] 03(mod) Page linked by an other user : link to the original article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53647 +comment (10Ltrlg) [19:32:15] isn't petan the maintainer? [19:32:28] Of wm-bot? Yes. [19:33:20] so any idea of a way to make the recent changes options box collapsible by default (i.e. show/hide) [19:34:35] * Elsie NP: "You Can't Stop The Beat" by Nikki Blonsky, Zac Efron, Amanda Bynes, Elijah Kelly, John Travolta & Queen Latifah from "Hairspray: Soundtrack To The Motion Picture" [19:34:44] Elsie: behave, please. [19:35:10] c: What version of MediaWiki? [19:35:19] It's probably a one-line change to MediaWiki:Common.js. [19:36:00] 1.20.0 [19:36:03] 03(NEW) Several i18n/l10n issues in OAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55680 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAuth; () [19:36:03] 03(mod) Interface messages needing rewording or documentation and other issues with existing messages (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38638 (10Nemo) [19:36:05] 03(mod) Review and deploy OAuth extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55679 (10Nemo) [19:36:33] Nemo_bis: Thanks! [19:36:50] I've got about six or seven bugs to file against OAuth. [19:36:57] I'll do them later today, hopefully. [19:38:24] c: Which box on Special:RecentChanges? Got a link? [19:38:35] I'm headed out shortly, but using jQuery to append a CSS class to the box will probably work. [19:38:39] Maybe. [19:38:47] the options box at the top [19:39:11] Okay. [19:39:19] Just try doing what I just said. [19:39:46] seems like wm-bot has stopped logging at 6:30 [19:40:02] i don't know enough about CSS/JS to write stuff from scratch [19:40:12] Not with that attitude! [19:40:24] You know about the mw-collapsible CSS class? [19:40:27] That may work. [19:40:41] * Elsie flees. [19:40:44] I can help later, maybe. [19:40:55] Maybe. [19:41:00] Maybe. [19:41:10] But I'll probably be busy ignoring Ori's inspect() thing. [19:41:16] And filing OAuth bugs instead. [19:41:26] Ok, you get a point for that. [19:41:30] That was pretty good. [19:41:45] :-) [19:43:02] left a msg to petan [19:43:06] hope he reads it [19:43:18] oh, talking about inspect(), is that deployed somewhere interesting yet? [19:45:01] ori-l: ^ [19:45:11] everyhere [19:45:45] except mobile, I guess; that will be in the next branch [19:45:59] but it should be across all wikimedia wikis, I cherry-picked it [19:46:19] hmmm… how do i call it, then? [19:46:26] mw.loader.inspect() [19:46:46] it looks nicer in chrom* than in FF [19:47:15] >>> mw.loader.inspect() [19:47:15] undefined [19:47:16] MatmaRex: ReferenceError: mw is not defined [19:47:28] which wiki? [19:47:45] pl.wp [19:48:03] #>>> mw.inspect.inspectModules() [19:48:03] undefined [19:48:11] no, it's mw.loader.inspect() [19:48:16] it returns undefined because it's async [19:48:26] but watch for output immediately below the return value [19:48:28] sure, i see, but it doesn't print anything either [19:48:37] WFM. which browser? [19:48:42] opera 12. eh [19:48:44] * MatmaRex digs [19:49:29] http://i.imgur.com/2kXaEap.png [19:50:35] agh, i see it [19:50:39] opera has console.table [19:50:46] but calling it doesn't do anything [19:50:50] wtf [19:50:52] hahaha [19:51:04] I'll submit a patch; I guess that's a bug. [19:51:15] what is $.isFunction( console.table ) ? [19:51:48] true [19:51:52] it's a function, it's callable [19:51:56] it just doesn't do shit [19:51:57] wmf, opera. [19:51:59] just doesn't do anything? that's fantastic [19:52:19] it's nada :P [19:53:53] firebug has console.table too btw [19:53:55] https://bitbucket.org/dstorey/opera-dragonfly-manual/src/12df470b7ce1/console.md#markdown-header-consoletable [19:54:25] 'doesn't work? :/ ' [19:54:37] and below: 'broken? awaiting feedback. ' [19:56:35] Blah, what do you think is the right way to handle it? I don't want to browser-sniff. Either blame opera or drop console.table, I guess. [19:56:36] ori-l: so… can we add a check like if(window.opera) in there? having to do console.table = null is silly [19:57:08] (window.opera is truthy on opera 12 and older, it contains some apis mostly for extensions) [19:57:48] huh, why does 'jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar' load on the main page (not in edit mode)? [19:58:13] MatmaRex: I know, right? There are a lot of WTFs like that. I expected more of a reaction on wikitech-l :P [19:58:39] don't look at commons, your head might explode [19:59:40] jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar.i18n 13 B [19:59:43] lol [19:59:53] 13 bytes? seriously? that's not a measurement error or something? [20:00:05] ori-l: oh no, i won't. :D [20:00:23] i've had enough wtfs for today fighting with labs [20:01:15] one of the other things that set of changes did is expose the previously-trapped-in-a-closure module registry object as mw.loader.moduleRegistry, so you can mw.loader.moduleRegistry['jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar.i18n'] to inspect it [20:01:55] the script source is 'function (){}'?! [20:02:06] oh, but it has messages [20:02:38] yeah [20:02:53] * MatmaRex files two enhancement requests [20:03:05] actually, no [20:03:18] 1. count messages section; 2. don't count the wrapper [20:04:44] OK, I'll trade you that for Opera testing of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86867/ [20:06:19] opera's storage things are probably cool, i use several extensions that depend on them, but let's test [20:06:41] btw, the information used to generate the inspect() data is all accessible via mw.loader.*, so if you want to experiment with presenting the information differently its doable from a gadget [20:07:35] easy way to test is to change line 1868 to mw.loader.moduleStore.items[key] = 'console.log("loaded '+module+'");mw.loader.implement( ' + args.join(',') + ')'; [20:07:59] you may have to call localStorage.clear() if you've already cached the non-console.log-enhanced version [20:10:58] MatmaRex: when you say 'count messages section', do you mean count the number of messages, or include the byte-size of messages in the total byte count? [20:11:33] ori-l: whatever makes more sense to you [20:11:49] i was actually thinking about the byte size, but message number might be useful as well [20:12:56] i have a patch staged locally for adding reverse dependency information (what depends on this module), which is useful for "why the hell is this loaded here" [20:13:06] but it's very cramped to print that to the console [20:18:09] ori-l: hmm, cramped? can you upload a draft to gerrit? [20:18:26] yeah, give me a moment [20:18:46] ori-l: that localstorage thing seems to work, and even invalidate caches when code is changed [20:19:27] is that actually faster, though? [20:20:18] 03(mod) Add "Create new article" link to the menu of Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55677 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [20:21:32] 03(mod) TimedText's background clashes with the text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54901 +comment (10rainerrillke) [20:21:56] MatmaRex: faster than what? the browser cache? no. but ResourceLoader URLs fetch a bunch of modules and uses the most recent modified time of *any* of them as the version string [20:22:13] faster than before. :D [20:22:21] so every time a module is added, removed, or modified, or every time a new branch gets cut (which also changes the URL) you're re-retrieving everything [20:22:53] also, where/how does it actually check the versions / modification times? [20:23:23] they're in the startup module; see plwiki's here, for example: http://bits.wikimedia.org/pl.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=pl&modules=startup&only=scripts&skin=vector&* [20:24:08] oh [20:24:10] funky. [20:24:34] the actual implementation of getModifiedTime is varies by ResourceLoaderModule subclass [20:24:41] s/is varies/varies/ [20:24:54] 03(mod) unchecking "Always use a secure connection when logged in" leaves forceHTTPS cookie set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53379 (10jidanni) [20:25:16] that looks sane, i guess [20:25:31] well, maybe 'sane' isn't the best word here [20:25:58] but it seems to work [20:26:23] debugging caching issues is going to get a whole lot more awesome, though, and RL already seems to have plenty [20:26:33] ori-l: out of curiosity, does anyone anywhere do anything like this? [20:27:17] yes, it's not uncommon: http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2011/09/26/app-cache-localstorage-survey/ [20:27:29] see also: https://github.com/addyosmani/basket.js & one other blog post i'm looking for now.. [20:28:17] there: http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2011/03/28/storager-case-study-bing-google/ [20:30:05] huh. [20:33:40] ��� �� ��� ����� ������ ������� �� ���������?) [20:33:57] wtf newbie|4 [20:34:11] your message appears to be corrupted [20:34:20] Jasper_Deng: Get a decent IRC client [20:34:21] ;) [20:34:33] Jasper_Deng: I not speak english. russian pls) [20:34:38] Reedy: client-independent [20:34:44] (problem also with IRCCloud) [20:34:50] KVIrc [20:35:08] idk of any Russian-speakers off the top of my head [20:35:17] good [20:35:32] ��� �� ������� � ��������? [20:35:54] newbie|4: sorry, nobody speaks russian here :( [20:36:03] I'm trying to get a Russian-spaker [20:36:50] And then there are Russian? [20:36:52] newbie|4: try waiting, we may be able to get a Russian-speaker later [20:37:22] ok [20:38:38] I need help on MediaWiki. When I go to the site, the link is / index.php, how to clean? [20:39:05] 03(mod) Error when transcluding RecentChangesLinked with no pages: "Given page title was invalid" and lots of UNIQ spew - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54841 +comment (10self) [20:39:06] !prettyurl [20:39:06] To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [20:44:01] 03(mod) allow ftp links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54103 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:44:16] !rewriteproblem [20:44:16] 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root (see !nullpath); 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. See also !shorturls [20:44:33] 03(mod) Better "start page" for ItemDisambiguation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55466 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:52:48] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:52:51] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:53:20] 03(mod) Make preferences "Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist" and "pages and files I edit" true by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45020 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:59:25] 03(mod) allow ftp links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54103 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:53:07] 03(mod) No paragraphs/linebreaks in references by inserting empty lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55674 +comment (10arnd.schroeter) [21:54:37] 03(mod) Use (hidden) preference for copyright acknowledgment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47496 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:54:40] 03(mod) Use (hidden) preference for copyright acknowledgment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47496 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:00:38] 03(mod) keyboard shortcut to get to Wikidata item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46538 +comment (10Bene*) [22:05:28] 03(mod) SF Incorrect page name "Some very long page name that will hopefully never get created ABCDEF123" appearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51479 +comment (10remcocdeboer) [22:12:39] 03(mod) forceHTTPS session cookie placed even with HTTPS opt-out set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54626 (10salisria) [22:13:18] 03(mod) Add "Create new article" link to the menu of Wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55677 (10sju-w) [22:36:36] 03(mod) forceHTTPS session cookie placed even with HTTPS opt-out set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54626 +comment (10salisria) [22:46:56] 03(NEW) Line breaks missing after salutations and before signature lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55681 normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; () [22:58:22] 03(mod) forceHTTPS session cookie placed even with HTTPS opt-out set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54626 +comment (10salisria) [23:11:49] Hi everybody! This is call for review: MediawikiFS project: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/MediawikiFS [23:15:19] MediaWiki [23:16:43] Vedmaka1, it's a nice project, but I'm not quite sure about the use case... The "problem" part of the IEG page is just weird - some parts of MediaWiki are server-side and some parts are client-side... So what? [23:19:42] It seems weird that you want to move the browser-controlled bits like editing pages to the filesystem, rather than moving the server-controlled bits like configuration/extensions to the web interface [23:20:38] Vedmaka1, and, as Reedy says, the W in MediaWiki is uppercase [23:22:00] Krenair: this part you can be right, however, when creating MW-based project we need to install extensions, configure LocalSettings and create project structure. With MwFS this can be done without leaving IDE, i think this can take place. [23:23:01] However, you right about lack of united configuration via web-interface [23:23:06] How? [23:23:11] Yes, you're trying to make it take place. What I suggest is the reverse. [23:23:17] MW will still need the extensions [23:24:27] Krenair, MwFS is not about configuration at all, its about working with MediaWiki pages from IDE, next to code [23:24:35] Yes, I know [23:24:50] I am questioning the use case for it and why you decided that the solution was MWFS [23:25:14] You can find some use-cases at Discussion page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/MediawikiFS [23:25:20] VisualEditor? [23:25:29] Vedmaka1, I'll just say that storing wiki pages in ordinary text files won't suffice [23:25:54] (for scalability/performance) [23:26:35] Jasper_Deng: can you extend your statement? [23:27:11] Storing wikitext in a SQL database is the only thing that will suffice for the scalability/performance of the wikis [23:27:21] so that naturally isn't editable via IDE [23:27:30] Reedy: Visual editor is good for create texts, but not for structure ( btw i really like it and hope it will progress ) [23:29:34] Jasper_Deng: i agree, but MwFs not suggest to store wiki pages in text files, MwFs is a bridge between MediaWiki and your system, allowing mount pages same as net drive [23:29:54] could you please elaborate? [23:30:25] We know what MWFS is. [23:30:34] It's representing pages as text files. [23:30:54] So you have 10 million files in a single directory? ;-) [23:32:04] Elsie: such big projects like Wikipedia is special case, tho they do not need MwFS i think. Its more about people like me: maintaning own projects based on Mediawiki + SMW engine. [23:32:44] Ahh. :-) [23:33:43] Elsie: if you imagine dropbox can mount wikipedia articles as files. this is it - its possible, but for what? :) [23:34:21] 03(mod) allow ftp links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54103 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:34:27] Jasper_Deng: imagine you have directory with mediawiki pages represented as files. when you edit files - same page changes on server. [23:34:40] but you can't do that, really [23:35:06] Jasper_Deng: why? its already done in PoC build for windows [23:35:34] what's PoC? [23:35:35] b/c you can't represent MediaWiki pages as files [23:35:42] samwilson: proof of concept [23:35:44] samwilson: proof-of-concept [23:35:56] ah! [23:35:59] Jasper_Deng: but they represented already, why not? [23:36:22] you can't [23:36:28] it doesn't work that way currently [23:36:38] besides the PHP scripts, the actual content is loaded from the database [23:37:09] Jasper_Deng: MW database keeps in place where it was. It is just interface for you to work with pages on remote server. It is user-mode virtual file system [23:37:20] idk what that has to do w/ MW [23:37:37] I wonder how much of this is a solution looking for a problem [23:37:41] ^/me doesn't quite get how you [23:37:44] oops [23:37:57] * Jasper_Deng doesn't quite get how you're going to avoid dispensing w/ the db [23:39:12] Jasper_Deng: MwFs utilize MediaWiki api. You changed file - the page changed. [23:39:34] Reedy: what do you mean? [23:39:40] sounds more like using an external editor [23:39:47] which already exists [23:39:52] 03(mod) add a table of content to item pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44876 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:39:58] Jasper_Deng, MWFS doesn't make MediaWiki store pages on the filesystem - it allows pages to be accessed as a file system sort of like through an external editor [23:40:38] 03(mod) add a table of content to item pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44876 +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw) [23:41:10] You want use "sed" on pages - you can use it since pages are files. You want to copy pages from one wiki to another? Drag&drop them. Pages are files, this is basic principle. [23:42:06] yes, it sounds much more versitile than external-editor [23:42:09] Yes, simplifying Krenair said: pages are files only for you in your system, not for mediawiki. [23:42:26] oh, looks like i need update project page, huh :) [23:42:35] This sounds interesting, but my opinion is that it doesn't need a grant [23:42:42] (I'm not one to decide though) [23:43:38] This is born from everyday use-case. By my work i gear up many mw-based projects with high customization and i feed pain switching from browser to IDE and versa. [23:43:46] *feel [23:45:57] Jasper_Deng: we should know, that MwFS can be just first step for MediaWiki IDE. I think may SMW users hardly need something that can help them in creating complicated queries and semantic assemblies. [23:46:37] would it work for files too? [23:48:56] samwilson: drag&drop file uploading planned [23:49:41] so the files' pages and the files themselves would be separate files in wmfs I guess? [23:54:19] samwilson: yes, sure [23:57:18] The W in MediaWiki is capitalized, BTW. [23:57:25] It's MediaWiki, not Mediawiki. [23:58:40] Elsie: ok, np with that