[00:00:21] I don't see how what he's doing depends on what the parser is doing [00:01:14] kthx_: If you want to be totally complete, you could also add && $title->getFragment() === '' [00:01:30] so that you don't consider a link to [[pagename#foo]] to be to the current page [00:01:34] Seriously I don't understand why you wouldn't let the parser do its job [00:02:00] as ->equals() doesn't check that the fragment part of the title is equal [00:02:04] marktraceur: i'm just changing the output of an existing extension [00:02:32] And changing it later in the pipeline seems to make _way_ more sense [00:03:51] 03(NEW) Some sysops cant eddit sysop protected items unless also explicitly given 'confirmed user' flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58474 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [00:03:58] but the links don't even get rendered anyway [00:04:13] They just totally disappear? :/ [00:04:35] just have a look what Extension:ImageMap does ;) [00:04:51] I'm...hm [00:04:58] And I guess it does all of this much later. Bah. [00:06:02] marktraceur: Actually parser isn't really called at all on the output of that extension [00:06:11] Hrm [00:06:49] bawolff: i don't think looking at the fragment makes much sense for an image map :D [00:07:08] kthx_: You can in theory have an image map table of contents [00:07:17] Yeah! That would be super cool. [00:07:21] why one would do that, I'm not sure... [00:07:43] I actually am about to tell paulproteus about this in another channel for basically that purpose [00:08:49] #meatierwiki [00:08:54] bawolff: but the html class would't get rendered if you just jump to an anchor within a page [00:08:55] Honestly I think the situations where image maps are useful are pretty limitted [00:09:17] paulproteus: High-protein wikis, that's our specialty [00:09:27] Where's the [[beef]] [00:09:31] I presume it's a comparison to MeatBallWiki! [00:09:32] 03(mod) browsertests: triggers for VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53691 +comment (10hashar) [00:11:10] bawolff: i want to use it for maps, as i'm writing for a german wiki about the video game series the legend of zelda ;) [00:11:17] kthx_: yes. If you want your extension to behave like core, you would have to do something $parser->getTitle()->equals( $title ) && $title->getFragment() === '' && $title->getNamespace() !== NS_SPECIAL [00:17:06] 03(mod) ParserTests::testParserTest cannot be run in parallel due to /tmp/Foobar.svg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58094 +comment (10hashar) [00:21:08] marktraceur, bawolff: it's late here, thanks for helping me, good night :) [00:21:16] night [00:33:51] 03(mod) Bot being served Error: 503, Service Unavailable (default error page) for API action=edit requests on large pages (caused by parsing the page three times on save) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57026 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:36:35] 03(mod) adding "railway-sans" font to wikimania2014 server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58203 +comment (10This, that and the other) [00:44:31] 03(mod) Implement semi-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3843 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:55:41] 03(mod) Add editnotice to edit page of global.css and global.js user script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57888 summary (10Krinkle) [00:57:17] 03(mod) Install sitemap extension into bugzilla, and then update bugzilla robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33406 +comment (10aklapper) [01:01:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: is showing up in the toolbar instead of "Insert" in betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58360 (10ryasmeen) [01:02:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Link inspector is not opening up for a link when selecting the entire annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58301 (10ryasmeen) [01:03:28] 03(mod) Implement semi-deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3843 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [01:07:18] 03(mod) Security review of Wikimania Scholarship - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57546 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [01:14:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Template is getting pasted as a table while doing copy-paste - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58241 (10ryasmeen) [01:16:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: If copying from one VE instance to another, on pasting the result has a ☁ inserted too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58138 (10ryasmeen) [01:17:44] 03(mod) Install sitemap extension into bugzilla, and then update bugzilla robots.txt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33406 +comment (10at.light) [01:21:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: If copying from one VE instance to another, pasted links result in broken wikitext (external URL, internal link format) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58136 (10ryasmeen) [01:23:32] 03(mod) adding "railway-sans" font to wikimania2014 server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58203 +comment (10sam) [01:23:53] 03(mod) Add "railway-sans" font for use on wikimania2014 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58203 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:25:00] 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019 +comment (10t.lam) [01:36:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Math editor is called LaTeX, but that is not accurate and possibly confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53251 (10ryasmeen) [01:39:10] 03(mod) Puppetize Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51036 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [01:40:17] 03(mod) Puppetize Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51036 (10Andre Klapper) [01:41:04] 03(mod) Puppetize Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51036 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [01:44:14] 03(mod) Puppetize Wikimedia Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51036 (10Andre Klapper) [01:45:27] 03(mod) Quotes cut at left or right margin in mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58456 (10Andre Klapper) [01:46:55] 03(mod) Search UX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58246 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:46:58] 03(mod) Search UX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58246 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [01:47:38] 03(mod) Text within "notifications" drop-down cannot be selected (for instance, to copy into a translation program or a bug report) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58460 (10Andre Klapper) [01:51:04] 03(mod) Import older bugs/ feature requests from code.google.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58466 summary (10Andre Klapper) [01:52:30] 03(mod) Lines missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58470 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:00:33] 03(mod) Quotes cut at left or right margin in mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58456 +comment (10bingle-admin) [02:08:26] 03(mod) Quotes cut at left or right margin in mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58456 +comment (10Jon) [02:19:53] Yo! is there a way to disable the bottom bar with the privacy policy, about, disclaimers, and logo? Or does one have to edit the theme? cheers [02:23:45] I installed MediaWiki from Debian stable and I can't seem to access the web-based installer. I've read the README.Debian file but it does not illuminate. The Apache error log says "File does not exist: /var/www/mediawiki" and indeed, there is nothing in /etc/www except the default index.html -- what now? [02:25:22] http://apaste.info/8AKt [02:51:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor not moving past ग्र on left arrow key press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51846 +comment (10Siddhartha Ghai) [02:56:10] 03(mod) Text within "notifications" drop-down cannot be selected (for instance, to copy into a translation program or a bug report) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58460 (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [02:57:03] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor not moving past ग्र on left arrow key press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51846 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:11:55] 03(mod) VisualEditor: removeHtmlAttributes throws an exception when copying complex templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58421 (10James Forrester) [03:31:34] 03(mod) Broken logs after special page name change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34877 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [03:34:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor not moving past ग्र on left arrow key press - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51846 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [03:38:49] 03(NEW) Warning: Division by zero in CentralAuth/specials/SpecialWikiSets.php on line 233 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58475 minor; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; () [03:38:54] 03(mod) Warning: Division by zero in CentralAuth/specials/SpecialWikiSets.php on line 233 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58475 (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [03:54:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: removeHtmlAttributes throws an exception when copying complex templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58421 (10ryasmeen) [03:54:40] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:54:44] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [03:56:39] legoktm: Do you have central auth set up locally to test things in? [04:00:46] loltesting [04:02:18] p858snake|l: I'm too lazy to set it up myself [04:02:54] I've heard so many scary stories, although it probably isn't much worse than GlobalUsage, and that turned out not too bad [04:12:26] bawolff: yes [04:12:57] there's a page on mw.o that has all the commands listed to set it up [04:13:37] legoktm: Any chance you want to review this patch by a newbie, I'm too lazy - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/101178/ [04:13:51] sure [04:14:03] thanks :) [04:17:18] 03(mod) Special:WikiSets/ should load global rights log snippet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34875 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [04:17:18] 03(mod) Special:WikiSets/ should load global rights log snippet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34875 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:18:16] 03(mod) Special:WikiSets/ should load global rights log snippet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34875 (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [04:31:53] Hello. I was reading the [[WP:VPT/before posting]] page and it suggested I might find developers to help answer my question here, :) [04:33:00] I want to create a new kind of Special Page (or Template) and I wonder if it is even possible in the software. [04:33:42] what specifically? [04:33:54] Essentially it is a pro-vs-con debate page using side-by-side columns. [04:34:49] The idea would be each comment is prefixed with either :+ (pro) or :- (con) [04:35:05] and the page would position the text into the columns [04:35:50] a rebuttal would be (like a talk page) inset with ::+ under a :- or with ::- under a :+ if that makes sense [04:36:53] but UNlike a talk page no more than 2 levels of inset (example-- :+claim and ::-rebuttal) [04:37:22] I don't think that's totally unfessible. If you also want general wikiformatting there might be some edge cases that won't work well [04:37:49] But you would have to convince someone to actually make it, I don't think it would qualify as a high priority feature request [04:38:38] bawolff: would it require new feature or could it be done by juggling existing ones ? [04:39:13] Maybe somebody might be able to make it with a lua template [04:39:37] which could be done locally [04:40:56] ok ... could you point me towards a tutorial so I can understand lua a bit better .. I dabbled as a programmer when I was a kid so I might figure it out or at least better understand the terminology for any help [04:41:16] lua as it is used in wiki that it [04:41:19] !lua [04:41:19] Scribunto is a new extension that makes it easier to write repeatable code in Lua, rather than in complex wikitext templates. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto for more information. [04:41:22] err that is [04:41:43] cool .. thanks bawolff :) [04:41:49] hmm, neither of those links are the one I was thinking of [04:42:03] oh, ok [04:42:24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua is also useful [04:42:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual is a reference manual of everything that is specific to using lua in the wiki [04:43:19] F66: The basic idea of what you would have to do is, look at the begining of each line, figure out which column it belongs in, then make a 2 column table, and put the responses in the appropriate column [04:44:30] And you can (mostly) use html syntax for tables (There's also a wiki syntax for tables, but its more confusing imo then the html syntax) [04:45:03] bawolff: yeah .. that makes sense .. I was thinking that each claim would start a new section (or table row) so the rebuttals could fit side-by-side [04:46:02] what I cannot figure is could the cells of a table somehow be directly editted like a section edit limits the text -- if that makes sense [04:46:44] oh hmm, I think you would need a php extension to accomplish that [04:47:02] php -- that would be server based ? [04:47:19] yes, a mediawiki extension [04:47:34] !extension [04:47:34] MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions. [04:47:36] ok -- understood [04:48:09] I used to tinker with drupal a few years ago so i know a little php [04:48:28] mostly for formatting page content [04:48:31] Just be warned, for that route - it is rather difficult to get a server-side extension deployed on wikipedia. It's possible, but generally requires a lot of waiting and pushing, as well as demonstrating people really want the feature [04:50:14] F66: I guess you could do something with javascript, to make a fake edit form, all on the client side (using the api) [04:51:22] hmm ... if i went that route each user would need to use the same software to participate in a discussion .. quite a barrier [04:51:49] bawolff: why i want to do this is because I have a germ of an idea for the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Morgellons#Good_.26_Bad_References_Page [04:52:28] there are a lot of reasons that need to be thought through but I wanted to get an idea of the tech issues too [04:52:52] all of this is just in the exploration phase right now [04:53:00] 03(NEW) "Sorry, we could not find a tutorial in your language, here's a tutorial in your language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58476 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; () [04:53:51] what i have in my head is a page with a colllection of tables with 2 rows 100% wide and 1 or more rows 50% wide each under the first two [04:54:01] row 1 = the reference [04:54:20] row 2 = the specific claim the ref is supposed to support [04:54:50] row 3..nn = pros and cons (with optional rebuttals) [04:55:03] marktraceur: Obviously because the Queen's english is the best english (duh!) :P [04:55:37] it definitely should be possible to use lua templates to format that [04:55:50] bawolff: tell legoktm, he doesn't believe me [04:56:25] British english puts the 'u' back in honour! [04:56:41] what would be the hard part would be clicking on a table cell to edit that text or add a rebuttal [04:56:49] * legoktm facepalms [04:57:01] yet the section edit does that sort of [04:59:00] bawolff: ok .. I will start reading on lua and get up to speed a bit -- much appreciation to you [04:59:10] legoktm: thanks for your help too :) [04:59:14] glad to help [05:18:32] 03(mod) Translation of 'lbrack' command creates small security issue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54624 summary (10Matthew Flaschen) [05:32:26] If any MediaWiki.org sysops are online, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Do_I_Have_Sciatic_Endometriosis_Symptoms [05:32:39] sure [05:32:58] blocked and deleted [05:33:00] thanks [05:33:16] No problem [05:52:36] 03(mod) Create a mockup for the tour of Wikisource using GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56563 +comment (10mflaschen) [05:54:03] 03(mod) Create a mockup for the tour of Wikisource using GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56563 +comment (10mflaschen) [06:05:11] 03(NEW) Link to file page is maybe going to the local repo even when the file is from a remote one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58477 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MultimediaViewer; () [06:18:21] 03(NEW) Better interface for MediaHandler's to add javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58478 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [06:18:23] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [06:20:16] 03(mod) Review and deploy GWToolset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56181 +comment (10b) [06:25:55] 03(mod) [CSS] Some CSS stripped by MediaWiki parser CSS sanitizer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35820 +comment (10MZMcBride) [06:25:56] 03(mod) Review and deploy GlobalCssJs extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57891 (10MZMcBride) [06:27:01] 03(mod) Newtalk status remains set even after viewing talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57840 +comment (10d.keith.d) [06:28:56] 03(mod) Create a mockup for the tour of Wikisource using GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56563 +comment (10ellydwivedi2093) [06:29:57] 03(mod) Bugzilla–Mingle comment re-posting is funky (strips delimited hyperlinks and newlines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57830 +comment (10b) [06:30:13] 03(mod) Bugzilla–Mingle comment re-posting is funky (strips delimited hyperlinks and newlines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57830 (10MZMcBride) [06:32:39] 03(mod) Create a mockup for the tour of Wikisource using GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56563 +comment (10Aarti Dwivedi) [06:32:55] 03(NEW) File class hierarchy is crazy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58479 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [06:32:57] 03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/700 (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [07:11:27] 03(mod) Put the shorturl in a better place: current design is extremely ugly and confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38863 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:14:27] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:14:44] Has a woman ever told you that something you said or did isn't okay, but then not spent an hour of her time teaching you why? Here's an opportunity to understand why and learn one way to be a better person, in a safe environment where you're free to be wrong the first two times. [07:14:49] * marktraceur sighs [07:14:52] Middle click [07:14:54] WTF [07:16:35] Don't worry, you're free to wrongly click the middle mouse button two times in the safe environment of #mediawiki [07:16:48] After that we slap you with a salmon [07:19:20] bawolff: "we" being Isarra, surely [07:19:43] Nemo_bis: I've been debating if I should mark bug 6422 as a dupe of 6421 [07:20:18] Gloria often gets in on the slapping action [07:20:56] marktraceur: On a serious note, middle-button pastes is the stupidest UI ever. I've accidentally hit it more then a couple times [07:21:07] Heh [07:21:17] Especially on this laptop [07:21:22] Where there *is* a middle button [07:21:38] But they decided to make RMB+LMB === MMB anyway [07:21:46] Depends on the mouse driver. [07:22:54] * Isarra feeds marktraceur to her cat. [07:23:05] * marktraceur deploys his cat to battle Isarra's cat [07:23:31] Oh, my cat might be full of toasters. Could you grab one if you find one in there? [07:23:36] * Isarra runs away from the other cat. [07:24:45] She's not super intimidating, don't worry [07:25:10] Not intimidating doesn't mean not dangerous. [07:25:15] Especially with cats. [07:25:21] And small children. [07:25:27] In this case it kinda does [07:27:57] * Isarra offers the cat a toaster. [07:29:34] Isarra: Thanks, we could use another one [07:54:31] 03(mod) MessageContent varies by userlang but its content gets in parser cache without that option set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41065 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:54:31] 03(mod) MessageContent varies by userlang but its content gets in parser cache without that option set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41065 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:00:36] hi [08:03:12] Where I can read any docs on mediawiki table classes? [08:03:55] !tables [08:03:55] For help on creating tables in wikitext, see and [08:04:01] nope, wrong table type [08:04:21] evgen2: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [08:05:27] mm I mean things like {| border="1" align="center" class="wikitable" [08:05:48] evgen2: oh, I guess the first link will be more useful then :) [08:06:15] evgen2: Info on the css classes, or php classes used to generate tables (not that its actually in a class, that would be way to organized) [08:06:20] ? [08:08:16] well, but why align="center" is not work? [08:08:24] evgen2: On the php side, {| things are converted to html table syntax in the Parser::doTableStuff method. Its super scary, I honestly don't reccomend looking at it [08:09:38] evgen2: I think (not sure, honestly I'm not too good with wiki-table syntax) is that you're applying the align to the entire table, where its only supported on indvidiual cells [08:10:34] {| border="1" align="center" work well [08:12:31] evgen2: For what its worth, these are the styles applied by the wikitable class - http://pastebin.com/G1r5XAy1 [08:17:08] bawolf I don't see any whole thable alignment [08:21:31] 03(NEW) access to database cluster S6.labsdb (ruwiki, jawiki, frwiki) broken / denied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58480 critical; Wikimedia Labs: General; () [09:13:02] Is it possible to create a namespace �Project:� different from the meta namespace? [09:14:24] I mean, I would like to have a namespace �Project:� for projects, and �Meta:� for meta stuff. [09:21:01] If you name the meta namespace something else, I don't forsee any major problems [09:21:31] Execpt maybe any shitty extensions hardcoded to expect the project namespace to be project [09:36:11] As soon as I create a �Project� namespace, the �Community portal� link in the left menu will change to �Project:Community_portal�. [09:37:17] �even if I set �$wgMetaNamespace = "Meta";� [09:50:05] Hi! Are some extension =s only available through svn and not through gerrit? [09:50:15] !extensions [09:50:15] MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions. [10:02:16] Strange thing with table aligments for classes "wikitable" and "standard" as you can see at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Evgen2 [10:02:18] apsdehal: So really old unmaintained stuff that really shouldn't be used [10:02:37] Where can I customize the links to �community portal� and �current events�? [10:04:48] Sloyment: edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [10:04:53] !sidebar [10:04:54] To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar for details). If you need more control, you can use the SkinBuildSidebar hook (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar). [10:05:58] 03(mod) Fix broken repository "Capiunto" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57226 +comment (10This, that and the other) [10:07:32] evgen2: you shouldn't use align="left|right|center" anymore. That's deprecated in HTML [10:08:00] our wikitext converts it I believe [10:08:06] indeed [10:08:09] Vulpix ??? [10:08:18] you can make tables be centered with style="margin:auto;" [10:09:13] Vulpix what about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables ? [10:09:31] evgen2: wikitable class has "margin: 1em 0px;", which overrides align="center" [10:10:21] Vulpix: and what about class="standard"? [10:10:24] evgen2: uh, nice catch. You've hit bug #1 of MediaWiki ;) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 [10:11:01] evgen2: class="standard" doesn't apply any margin: CSS property, so align still works [10:11:09] Vulpix: Perfect, thanks!!! ☺ [10:12:05] Vulpix: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Evgen2 4-nd table [10:13:07] @p858snake|l I got across an extension named RecordAdmin which is not available on gerrit so I thought [10:13:26] Vulpix: why it works till 1.19 ? [10:15:46] evgen2: maybe because of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCleanupPresentationalAttributes [10:21:18] Vulpix: nice. Introduced in version: 1.19.0 (r94465) Removed in version: 1.20.1 And 1.19 сlaimed to be "lts" [10:22:38] 1.19 IS lts, I don't see what it has to do with that removal [10:27:25] 03(mod) Fix failing Selenium tests for PhantomJS browser on local machine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49813 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:28:53] Vulpix: as min - to menshion this in readme/update [10:30:11] I think this is already mentioned [10:32:09] no, it mention only on 186 line of RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 as "New features in 1.19" [10:33:02] did you expect a RELEASE-NOTES that only mentions that? There were a lot of other changes! [10:34:06] Well, but this it not small change and new features [10:35:06] Hallo. Aren't full phpunit tests supposed to run at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/101221 ? [11:09:26] Help:Tables page updated, I hope someone can review that [11:32:48] 03(mod) ParserFunctions call to mb_substr() generates lots of warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51834 +comment (10Andreas Plank) [11:34:16] When on the article place DEFAULTSORT Articles starting with the letters Ć, Ž, Đ, Š be at the bottom of the category? Why is it so? [11:35:21] 03(mod) Fix failing Selenium tests for PhantomJS browser on local machine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49813 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:46:52] Kolega2357: because they sort that way in the default unicode character code ordering, I think [11:47:17] valhallasw How to fix error? [11:48:16] I'm not sure in the case of mediawiki -- in any case, you need to change the collation [11:48:21] either in MW or on the SQL backend [11:53:02] valhallasw Do you know how setting collation? [11:53:46] Kolega2357: no, but google turns up https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation [12:05:26] 03(mod) Investigate how to fake HTTP headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48218 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:05:28] 03(mod) Investigate how to fake HTTP headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48218 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [12:36:16] How to set $wgCategoryCollation for unicode sorting? [12:49:48] How to set $wgCategoryCollation for unicode sorting? [12:50:47] Kolega2357: ...read the manual? [12:50:57] and there is no such thing as 'unicode sorting' [12:52:24] Kolega2357: it's a variable you set in your LocalSettings.php. [13:30:28] 03(NEW) use jquery.makeCollapsible for collapsable on ImagePages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58481 enhancement; MediaWiki: JavaScript; () [13:32:17] 03(mod) Cache JS config vars in parser output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58340 +comment (10db) [13:32:35] 03(NEW) Nearby scrolls the page even if it is not required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58482 minor; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [13:35:52] 03(mod) add ParserOutput::addJsConfigVars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37501 +comment (10db) [13:36:20] 03(mod) Note 2012 migration to Git at svn.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47128 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:38:26] 03(NEW) Nearby close button and entries could use feedback effects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58483 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [13:45:33] 03(mod) Nearby scrolls the page even if it is not required - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58482 +comment (10bingle-admin) [13:45:46] 03(mod) Nearby close button and entries could use feedback effects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58483 +comment (10bingle-admin) [13:46:03] 03(mod) Warning: Division by zero in CentralAuth/specials/SpecialWikiSets.php on line 233 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58475 +comment (10db) [13:51:29] 03(NEW) Give the legende box on Special:RecentChanges a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58484 normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; () [13:52:33] 03(mod) Give the legende box on Special:RecentChanges a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58484 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:56:21] 03(NEW) Allow thanks of log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58485 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Thanks; () [13:59:54] 03(mod) Allow thanks of log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58485 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [13:59:55] 03(mod) Add a way to thank page patrollers for reviewing a page I created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50867 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [14:11:10] Any recommendations on python mediawiki syntax parsers? something like ruby's wikicloth. I saw the Alternative parsers page on mw.org, some googling hints at mwparserfromhell being the better one, but open to feedback [14:19:54] 03(mod) Bugzilla–Mingle comment re-posting is funky (strips delimited hyperlinks and newlines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57830 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:22:44] 03(mod) Newtalk status remains set even after viewing talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57840 (10Andre Klapper) [14:22:55] jleclanche: depends on what you want to do -- mwparserfromhell is pretty good, but if you want to do replacements (e.g. adding/removing categories) you could consider pywikibot [14:23:20] valhallasw: Im implementing a wiki with mediawiki syntax support [14:23:35] jleclanche: then mwparserfromhell is what you want [14:23:41] Ok, thanks :) [14:39:55] 03(mod) IDREF attribute for references an unknown ID "wpSourceTypeFile" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40889 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:40:45] 03(mod) IDREF attribute for references an unknown ID "wpSourceTypeFile" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40889 (10Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex]) [14:50:59] 03(mod) Search listing redirects as "redirect Wikispecies:WS:xyz" instead of just "WS:xyz" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57471 +comment (10pirsquared17) [15:24:41] 03(mod) Bot being served Error: 503, Service Unavailable (default error page) for API action=edit requests on large pages (caused by parsing the page three times on save) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57026 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:24:56] 03(mod) Bot being served Error: 503, Service Unavailable (default error page) for API action=edit requests on large pages (caused by parsing the page three times on save) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57026 +comment (10bjorsch) [15:29:28] 03(mod) Bugzilla–Mingle comment re-posting is funky (strips delimited hyperlinks and newlines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57830 +comment (10b) [15:58:34] 03(NEW) Use newer git-review version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58486 minor; MediaWiki-Vagrant: General; () [16:17:46] 03(mod) Put the shorturl in a better place: current design is extremely ugly and confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38863 +comment (10b) [16:34:52] 03(mod) access to database cluster S6.labsdb (ruwiki, jawiki, frwiki) broken / denied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58480 (10metatron) [17:02:51] Nischayn22_: Is it still useful for you to be default-CC on UW bugs? [17:29:26] Wow, I just found the weirdest thing with MediaWiki I've ever seen. [17:29:59] I've never seen an entire namespace end up as a 404 Not Found error. http://meta.brickimedia.org/wiki/File:WWHippolyta.PNG [17:30:34] and yet they still work on articles: http://customs.brickimedia.org/wiki/Hippolyta [17:32:43] 03(mod) Give the legende box on Special:RecentChanges a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58484 (10Andre Klapper) [17:32:54] 03(mod) Allow thanks of log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58485 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [17:39:35] 03(NEW) Flow: User-submitted CSS not restricted. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58487 critical; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [17:41:52] 03(mod) Article.php should check permissions before advising - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17630 +comment (10apsdehal) [17:42:33] 03(mod) Flow: User-submitted CSS not restricted. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58487 +comment (10bingle-admin) [17:48:39] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Clicking a section 'edit' link and editing the section shows the first section's title in the summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58488 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [18:00:25] Here's another spam page on MediaWiki.org that needs sysop attention: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Yast%C4%B1k_bask%C4%B1 [18:02:06] 03(NEW) Some group and right messages are missing in GWToolset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58489 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GWToolset; () [18:04:26] 03(mod) Add new message for user without 'editinterface' right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18204 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:04:26] 03(mod) Add new message for user without 'editinterface' right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18204 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:06:32] 03(NEW) GWToolset should be able to handle nested html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58490 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GWToolset; () [18:08:00] 03(mod) GWToolset should be able to handle nested xml elements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58490 summary (10Maarten Dammers) [18:13:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Pulmebear should be deleted and blocked as a spambot, and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Yast%C4%B1k_bask%C4%B1 should also be deleted as a spam page. [18:17:14] Meiko: On it [18:17:27] Thanks [18:18:19] {{done}} [18:18:24] Woo adminship. [18:18:38] I forgot I had it, honestly. [18:21:03] Out of curiosity, why is it that MediaWiki.org isn't included in http://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/ results? [18:33:01] 03(mod) Request: For a new Namespace "portal" at or.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58453 +comment (10Srikant Kedia) [18:34:31] 03(mod) Installer's "authorized editors only" does not allow edit or createaccount rights to anons but allows creating pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35238 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [18:35:37] Hello, I'm researching mediawiki for my office. It seems to have what we need, but we need to create processes. Is there a way to create a series of forms, which show up as forms or data depending on user? [18:36:01] WarWeasle: you might be looking for semantic mediawiki [18:36:03] !semantic [18:36:03] Not many people around here use Semantic Mediawiki or the other Semantic extensions. You might try asking in #semantic-mediawiki [18:36:29] and in particular https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms [18:36:31] Thanks! [18:44:14] Do you know if semantic-apps is open source? [18:45:30] 03(mod) Request: To enable "portal" namespace in OR Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58453 summary (10ansuman) [18:49:51] WarWeasle: "semantic-apps"? [18:50:09] WarWeasle: semantic mediawiki and its friends are free and open source afaik [18:51:09] Thanks. It looked like a company website. [18:55:38] 03(mod) Add block-options to Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18182 +comment (10apsdehal) [19:44:10] 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019 +comment (10qgil) [20:00:21] 03(mod) Add options parameter to delete() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26682 +comment (10b) [20:01:23] 03(mod) Quickly communicate with another user who has reverted them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57507 +comment (10MZMcBride) [20:12:09] 03(mod) add i18n functions to the code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48435 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:12:10] 03(mod) add i18n functions to the code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48435 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:15:49] 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019 +comment (10tomasz) [20:18:27] 03(mod) access to database cluster S6.labsdb (ruwiki, jawiki, frwiki) broken / denied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58480 +comment (10tim) [20:22:05] 03(mod) Add i18n functions and messages to PageSchemas extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48435 summary (10MZMcBride) [20:38:21] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +easy (10MZMcBride) [20:41:53] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [20:42:31] 03(mod) Quickly communicate with another user who has reverted them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57507 (10Christianrocker90) [20:42:42] 03(mod) Display and allow user id number as 'alias' for the username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8816 +comment (10MZMcBride) [20:46:46] 03(mod) API should allow blocking/unblocking using userid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32496 +easy (10MZMcBride) [20:47:24] 03(mod) API: Give user information for user ids - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32494 +easy (10MZMcBride) [20:49:01] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:49:01] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:49:07] 03(mod) Display and allow user id number as 'alias' for the username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8816 +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:50:41] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +comment (10b) [20:51:41] 03(mod) Pipe escape enhancement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34613 +comment (10alex.g.muir) [20:54:23] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [20:55:46] 03(mod) Display and allow user id number as 'alias' for the username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8816 +comment (10federicoleva) [20:56:04] 03(mod) API should allow change of userrights using user id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32493 +comment (10b) [20:57:28] 03(mod) Make user IDs more readily available with the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19195 (10Nemo) [20:57:29] 03(mod) Display and allow user id number as 'alias' for the username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8816 (10Nemo) [20:57:47] 03(NEW) Incorrectly getting "You successfully removed your own rights. As such, you are no longer able to access this page." after promoting user to sysop and logging in as him - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58492 trivial; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [21:04:24] where were the logs of this channel stored before/after https://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/ ? [21:12:39] Nemo_bis: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/?C=M;O=D [21:14:30] I mean before or immediately after; that's only since 2012 or so :) [21:16:32] Nemo_bis: I think there's a ~mwbot/ on the Toolserver. [21:16:35] Or there was. [21:17:51] yes but those were already imported https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/logs/%23mediawiki/ [21:29:08] 03(mod) Add block-options to Special:CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18182 +comment (10mfwarburg) [21:36:54] 03(mod) Update favicon wiktionary/en.ico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58326 +comment (10MZMcBride) [21:37:50] Sigh, where are they https://web.archive.org/web/20111113213843/http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/logs/%23mediawiki/ [21:38:37] 03(mod) Block interface after "Get users" check should allow talk page/send email blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39213 +easy (10MZMcBride) [21:40:32] 03(mod) Minimize number of thumb sizes used in MobileFrontend extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58285 +performance; summary (10MZMcBride) [21:44:52] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-434 [21:49:38] 03(mod) Gerrit has no log of additions or removals of reviewers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57960 +comment (10b) [21:57:41] 03(mod) access to database cluster S6.labsdb (ruwiki, jawiki, frwiki) broken / denied - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58480 +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier) [21:57:51] 03(mod) security review of Flow extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57270 +comment (10b) [21:59:00] hi [21:59:15] Hi. [21:59:27] is there a reason not to have some characters within the H1 name of the page [21:59:32] I mean e.g. # [22:00:06] Certain characters are reserved. [22:00:16] Such as <, >, |, {, }, [, ], and #. [22:00:38] {}|[] are used in template syntax and link syntax. [22:00:46] # is used for anchors (e.g. [[#foo]]). [22:00:55] < and > are generally reserved in HTML. [22:01:23] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced while editing. I click here, and it types over there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58493 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:07:56] ok [22:08:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced while editing. I click here, and it types over there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58493 +comment (10wmf.whatamidoing) [22:09:04] here can I find documentation for mw.wikibase? [22:09:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor misplaced while editing. I click here, and it types over there. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58493 +comment (10wmf.whatamidoing) [22:10:02] I want to learn more about how to interact with Wikidata from Wikipedia via Lua, but the documentation I've found seems sparse [22:11:08] cgt: You should write better documentation. ;-) [22:11:42] Assuming there is no real documentation, where can I find the source code for mw.wikibase? [22:12:19] Hmmmm. [22:12:25] Probably in the Wikibase MediaWiki extension. [22:12:27] !e Wikibase [22:12:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase [22:12:32] Check the "tree" link? [22:12:36] I'll have a look [22:13:11] Or in the Scribunto extension. [22:13:14] !e Scribunto [22:13:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto [22:13:20] I'm not quite sure where mw.wikibase lives. :-( [22:14:00] Yeah, I'll dig a little [22:18:40] Funny https://ia601006.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/32/items/mediawiki-chanlogs/chanlogs.zip&file=%23mediawiki%2F20070719.txt : [05:47:31] You're now being logged -- http://tools.wikimedia.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/ [22:18:53] when TS was a new thing [22:19:34] mw.wikibase is in Wikibase [22:19:57] cgt: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase/blob/master/client/includes/scribunto/mw.wikibase.lua [22:20:29] includes/scribunto, aha. [22:20:41] excellent [22:21:11] effectively you just uw mw.getEntity, and the output of that is very similar to the JSON returned by the wbgetentities API module [22:21:31] I see [22:21:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:WikidataCheck is a pretty simple module [22:30:10] 03(NEW) Adding diatrics to letters in defaultsort causes VisualEditor to belive the page was not changed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58494 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:43:01] 03(NEW) articlefeedbackv5-activity-item-autohide but says "hide" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58495 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; () [22:53:20] legoktm: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/About_MediaWiki:Globalcssjs-desc/en [22:56:02] 03(mod) Article.php should check permissions before advising - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17630 (10jidanni) [23:29:19] Nemo_bis: thanks [23:29:45] Nemo_bis: why doesn't that show up on my userpage? https://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Legoktm [23:30:43] (because that's normally where I check) [23:59:42] 03(mod) IPv6 support for WMF-sponsored freenode server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57129 +comment (10jasper)