[00:04:36] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Autocompletion in properties linking Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58852 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[00:12:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Completion bar not reflecting actual completion with tux=1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48971  +comment (10federicoleva)
[00:12:52] <jarry1250>	 anomie: I can't modify my own consumer's version number / grants?
[00:13:23] <anomie>	 jarry1250: I believe you need to make a new consumer request to change the version number or grants
[00:14:11] <jarry1250>	 anomie: kk. Thanks for your HelloWorld stuff btw. I have one question: how do I up the security to take advantage of a private key?
[00:16:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [TUX] Statsbar dynamic update issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45700  +comment (10federicoleva)
[00:16:32] <anomie>	 jarry1250: I don't have an example for that, but you can look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:CSteipp/OAuth_Training_Dec2013 for a different example that does it.
[00:18:19] <jarry1250>	 anomie: Sure, I'll give it a go :)
[00:19:20] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Symmetrical and complementary properties should really work reciprocally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58853 major; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; ()
[00:20:02] <jarry1250>	 anomie: Hmm, new MWOAuthSignatureMethod_RSA_SHA1( new OAuthDataStore(), $privateKey ); Not sure where that's supposed to be defined. Ah well, I can always ask Chris at some point.
[00:21:28] <anomie>	 jarry1250: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FOAuth.git/master/backend%2FMWOAuthSignatureMethod.php (and also https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FOAuth.git/master/lib%2FOAuth.php)
[01:21:07] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) invalid magic word 'rootpagename' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58854 normal; MediaWiki: Parser; ()
[01:31:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Requesting transfer of my issues to Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58855 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; ()
[01:32:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] JIRA projects to import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58821  (10Matthew Bowker)
[01:51:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove "Disable search suggestions" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52812  +comment (10Franco Ferrer-San Miguel)
[02:48:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Permit all lowercase (uncapitalized) usernames and user pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26396  +comment (10mails2vichu)
[03:38:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "[[|New reply]] created" in LQT thread history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47006  +comment (10Nischay Nahata)
[03:49:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Empty string displayed instead of Full Name/username in email notifications when no User: page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49017  +comment (10Vishnu Nk)
[04:01:54] <yurik>	 anyone knows if we have an official "wiki id" for each site? something that is accessible from code? I have seen $wgConf->siteFromDB( $wgDBname )  ... but that looks ugly
[04:02:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) out of memory for large pngs near 35 MP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54744  +comment (10Randy Nonenmacher)
[04:04:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove "Disable search suggestions" user preference from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52812  +comment (1001tonythomas)
[04:12:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SF Incorrect page name "Some very long page name that will hopefully never get created ABCDEF123" appearing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51479  +comment (10alj62888)
[04:52:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019  +comment (10bugzilla)
[04:53:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) out of memory for large pngs near 35 MP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54744  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[04:53:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Kindle format (.mobi) output to "Create a book" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58621  +comment (10wmr89502270)
[04:56:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Permit all lowercase (uncapitalized) usernames and user pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26396  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[05:03:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) NetworkAuth: Security: Bad IP range recognition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38117  +comment (10Tony Thomas)
[05:08:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update favicon spcom.ico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58787  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[05:08:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update favicon spcom.ico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58787  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[05:53:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Lua: Add expensive function getEntity(id) for non-connected entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58856 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[05:54:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lua: Add expensive function getEntity(id) for non-connected entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58856  (10zhuyifei1999)
[05:54:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) allow accessing data from an item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47930  (10zhuyifei1999)
[06:02:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add "Select all" and "Select none" checkboxes, when presenting list of BibTeX references to import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30700  +comment (10tinaj1234)
[06:07:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lua: Add expensive function getEntity(id) for non-connected entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58856   +easy (10zhuyifei1999)
[06:10:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[06:10:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[06:16:30] <bawolff>	 Guess this would be a good time to remember how range blocks work again ;)
[06:20:42] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Upload fails and app crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58857 blocker; Commons App: iOS (iPhone or iPad); ()
[06:24:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Rename namespace module to Malayalam in Malayalam language wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54951  +comment (10Vishnu Nk)
[06:38:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Rename namespace module to Malayalam in Malayalam language wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54951  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[06:39:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[06:43:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[06:46:07] <theopolisme>	 bawolff: heh forgot about those :p
[06:46:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: No warning is given when users try to leave a page with an open and altered text field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  +comment (10tinaj1234)
[06:46:54] <bawolff>	 theopolisme: To be honest, I actually totally forgot about the accountcreation messages :)
[06:47:17] <theopolisme>	 That's what code review is for!
[06:49:52] <theopolisme>	 Hmm, so actually, are you sure? bawolff
[06:50:07] <bawolff>	 Sure about?
[06:50:37] <theopolisme>	 Looking at blockedtext, it seems like it's already pretty clear (range vs ip vs user). But maybe that's just me
[06:50:52] <theopolisme>	 In that it's given in "intended blockee"
[06:52:47] <bawolff>	 I was thinking that it might be nice to get rid of phrasing like "username or IP address" and replace it with just the words "username" or the words "IP address" depending on which it is
[06:54:36] <bawolff>	 Hmm, /me ponders this a little more
[06:56:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: No warning is given when users try to leave a page with an open and altered text field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  +comment (10tinajohnson.1234)
[06:57:19] <bawolff>	 I still think it would be better as separate messages, but at the same time, its not exactly horrible to have them as one
[06:57:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: No warning is given when users try to leave a page with an open and altered text field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  (10Tony Thomas)
[06:58:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) redirecting domain tartupeedia.ee to Wikipedia page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44893  +comment (10Raul Kern)
[06:58:39] <theopolisme>	 bawolff: yeah, what I don't want is to end up with a bunch of incredibly similar messages, not that that's always a bad thing of course...
[06:59:17] <theopolisme>	 (on the contrary in some cases)
[06:59:32] <bawolff>	 The only thing that is slightly worrisome is that that particular message gets heavily customized, so some wikis would have to customize the other new messages to
[06:59:38] <bawolff>	 But that sort of thing happens from time to time
[06:59:55] <bawolff>	 siebrand: you around?
[07:00:54] <theopolisme>	 That's actually a very good reason NOT to change it
[07:02:10] <bawolff>	 theopolisme: ok. How about we make the gci task just the thing you did, and we could open a separate bug for the other message, where people can discuss if its a good idea or not
[07:03:28] <theopolisme>	 Sure, I trust your judgement and in this case I think more discussion is warranted
[07:03:59] <theopolisme>	 And if/when there's consensus on the new bug i'll be happy to implement it
[07:07:42] <bawolff>	 theopolisme: The other thing, I don't think passing false in the array given to ErrorPageError is a good idea. false gets cast to a string, which makes $5 turned into the empty string. Which probably doesn't matter much, but
[07:08:08] <bawolff>	 I'd rather if the array was constructed in the line before, and the additional argument only added in the range case
[07:08:48] <theopolisme>	 I thought additional parameters were just ignored?
[07:10:55] <bawolff>	 They are, mostly, it just makes it more clean to not pass it at all. (It makes a slight difference in ?uselang=qqx or if someone edited the message and added $5)
[07:11:16] <tonythomas01>	 I need help editing the views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php inorder to add extra parametrs to abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text . I need to change the ' $1 by $2' to '[[Special:AbuseFilter/history/<filterId>/diff/prev/<changeId>|$1]] by $2' 
[07:11:51] <tonythomas01>	 according to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51382
[07:13:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Split up blockedtext into different messages for username block, and IP block and for an IP range block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58858 enhancement; MediaWiki: User blocking; ()
[07:13:37] <tonythomas01>	 will it work if I chane $this->msg( 'abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text' ) to $this->msg( 'abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text' ,$changeId) ?
[07:14:39] <legoktm>	 [08:01:54 PM]  <yurik>	 anyone knows if we have an official "wiki id" for each site? something that is accessible from code? I have seen $wgConf->siteFromDB( $wgDBname )  ... but that looks ugly <-- do you mean wfWikiId()?
[07:14:43] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: If $changeId is in scope, yes. However if that message already has parameters, you should add the new one to the end of the parameters ( the parameters may be specified in a ->params method)
[07:15:35] <yurik>	 legoktm, would that be "enwiki" style?
[07:16:11] <yurik>	 or is it something internal
[07:16:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[07:16:33] <bawolff>	 yurik: wfWikiId() is more or less equal to $wgDBname
[07:16:47] <legoktm>	 yurik: it would be enwiki. wiki id is $wgDBprefix-$wgDBname
[07:17:18] <yurik>	 what would be the dbprefix in the cluster?
[07:18:18] <legoktm>	 nothing
[07:18:40] <legoktm>	 empty string to be more exact
[07:18:46] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: u mean inside >rawParams() ? but that seems to have 5 parameters. yet, why should the abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text  still show $1 by $2 ?
[07:19:07] <yurik>	 thx, i guess that should work
[07:19:21] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: Just because a parameter is set, doesn't mean its used
[07:20:18] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: If it uses rawParams, but your parameter isn't raw, you would do something like $this->msg( 'foo' )->rawParams( ... )->params( $yourParam );
[07:23:48] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: I didn't understand rawParams 
[07:24:12] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: is it something like - unset variables or sth ?
[07:24:25] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: That's ok, its somewhat obscure, and rare that you need it
[07:24:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update favicons to provide high res variant (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45036  (10Quim Gil)
[07:24:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) High-density display issues (tracking) xhdpi hdpi Retina high-resolution HiDPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32101  (10Quim Gil)
[07:25:03] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: Basically if you have a message, that you want to inject raw html into, but still have it parsed, you can use rawParams (rawParams get replaced after parsing instead of before)
[07:25:59] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: So you can do something like $this->msg( 'foo' )->rawParams( '<input name="foo">' )->parse()
[07:26:12] <bawolff>	 in order to get html into the message, that would normally not be allowed in wikitext
[07:26:19] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: ok. So, that wont get parsed again. great 
[07:27:50] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: so, The reason why the $1 and $2 in the abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text is not getting replaced is due to its passed inside rawParams ?
[07:28:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update favicon wikipedia.ico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58125  +comment (10qgil)
[07:30:34] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: Umm, I'm not sure I understand. If the text "$1" was in a parameter, it would not get replaced at any time
[07:32:51] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: I meant why this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text page is showing $1 by $2 
[07:33:51] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: Oh. That's because that page is for editing the message contents. Its not an example of using the message
[07:34:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[07:36:01] <bawolff>	 tonythomas01: As an example, consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Parentheses - it has $1 on its MediaWiki: page, however the $1 is replaced by a parameter in places it is actually used (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges )
[07:36:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block messages for rangeblocks are confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35090  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[07:36:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block confirmation screen can be confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58783  +comment (10Quim Gil)
[07:38:56] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: Thanks for that. so that $1 by $2 is just a represenation of how that actual message gets printed right ?
[07:39:08] <bawolff>	 yes
[07:39:42] <tonythomas01>	 bawolff: ok. I will get working with it. 
[07:40:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-1.22.0, pcre-8.34 (using php-5.5.7): Pages with content displayed as blank/empty when $regex groups start with digit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58640  (10lilydjwg)
[08:11:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Completion bar not reflecting actual completion with tux=1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48971  +comment (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[08:12:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-1.22.0, pcre-8.34 (using php-5.5.7): Pages with content displayed as blank/empty when $regex groups start with digit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58640  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:12:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-1.22.0, pcre-8.34 (using php-5.5.7): Pages with content displayed as blank/empty when $regex groups start with digit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58640  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[08:15:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global oversighting a username ignores edit limits on hideuser blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23653  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:15:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global oversighting a username ignores edit limits on hideuser blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23653  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[08:34:17] <Withoutaname>	 hm, can someone tell me the difference between [[Snippets/Load JS and CSS by URL]] #Code vs #Load multiple files?
[08:34:24] <Withoutaname>	 !wikilink
[08:34:24] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$wiki_encoded_*
[08:35:41] <Withoutaname>	 !wikilink Snippets/Load JS and CSS by URL
[08:35:41] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Load_JS_and_CSS_by_URL
[08:36:58] <bawolff>	 Withoutaname: one uses a url parameter ?withCSS=foo.css where the other uses a different url parameter, and also allows multiple files to be loaded via ?use=MediaWiki:Foo.css|MediaWiki:Foo.js|MediaWiki:Bar.js
[08:37:22] <Withoutaname>	 thanks
[08:41:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mediawiki-1.22.0, pcre-8.34 (using php-5.5.7): Pages with content displayed as blank/empty when $regex groups start with digit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58640  +comment (10pleasestand)
[08:55:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: An empty edit notice is appearing at every page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55951  summary (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[09:11:11] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add info about ICC profile to metadata section of file description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58859 enhancement; MediaWiki: File management; ()
[09:11:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add info about ICC profile to metadata section of file description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58859  (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[09:32:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Installation of bundled extensions fails on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58659   +code-update-regression; +comment (10Kevin Israel (PleaseStand))
[09:35:52] <p858snake|l>	 !seen Dantman
[09:35:52] <wm-bot>	 Did you mean @seen Dantman?
[09:35:55] <Nasqueron>	 Dantman (~dantman@mediawiki/dantman) was last seen quitting from #wikimedia-tech 38 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes ago stating (Ping timeout: 245 seconds).
[09:36:12] <p858snake|l>	 @Seen Dantman
[09:36:27] <p858snake|l>	 @seen Dantman
[09:36:27] <wm-bot>	 p858snake|l: Last time I saw Dantman they were quitting the network with reason: Ping timeout: 245 seconds N/A at 11/13/2013 3:59:10 PM (38d17h37m17s ago)
[09:36:57] <p858snake|l>	 @seen namtnad
[09:36:58] <wm-bot>	 p858snake|l: Last time I saw namtnad they were quitting the network with reason: Remote host closed the connection N/A at 11/18/2012 6:10:58 AM (399d3h25m59s ago)
[09:39:31] <p858snake|l>	 @seen DanielFriesen
[09:39:31] <wm-bot>	 p858snake|l: Last time I saw DanielFriesen they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com N/A at 10/28/2013 5:27:06 AM (55d4h12m25s ago)
[09:39:46] <p858snake|l>	 @seen Nadir_Seen_Fire
[09:39:47] <wm-bot>	 p858snake|l: I have never seen Nadir_Seen_Fire
[09:40:40] <Niharika>	 Cool feature. 
[09:40:42] <Niharika>	 @seen YuviPanda
[09:40:42] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: Last time I saw YuviPanda they were talking in the channel, they are still in the channel #wikimedia-mobile at 12/20/2013 10:33:40 PM (1d11h7m1s ago)
[09:40:57] <Niharika>	 @seen sucheta
[09:40:57] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: Last time I saw sucheta they were changing the nickname to , but  is no longer in channel #wikimedia-office at 12/18/2013 7:18:39 AM (4d2h22m17s ago)
[09:42:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Undefined variable: noFollow in /includes/installer/LocalSettingsGenerator.php on line 368 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58044  +comment (10Kevin Israel (PleaseStand))
[10:11:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please upload WikiTV videos on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58671  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[10:29:29] <Nemo_bis>	 are there similar experiments to run MediaWiki with 32 MB memory? http://lowendbox.com/blog/xenvz-99-pence-openvz-vps-quick-review/
[10:29:45] <sgo11>	 hi, can I use html syntax to replace the default wiki syntax in mediawiki? are there any parser plugin like this exists? thanks. 
[10:30:38] <MatmaRex>	 sgo11: you can use most of HTML out-of-the-box
[10:30:58] <MatmaRex>	 sgo11: and you can disable the default limits (like no <a> tags, etc.) with a config option
[10:31:46] <MatmaRex>	 !wg RawHTML
[10:31:46] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHTML
[10:31:53] <MatmaRex>	 this one ^
[10:32:54] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, really? thanks a lot. I don't know that. I just like a rich editor. CKEditor looks pretty cool. that's why I am planning to use html instead of the default wiki markup. I don't really care of security. User Friendly is more important to me.
[10:34:08] <MatmaRex>	 good luck :)
[10:34:21] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, by the way, are there any plugin or docs on how to integrate CKeditors with mediawiki with html input. thanks. 
[10:34:55] <MatmaRex>	 i'm afraid there aren't any, there are some extensions which try to convert between wikitext and HTML for such editors and vice versa, but most of them don't really work well
[10:35:09] <MatmaRex>	 there's also the new VisualEditor, which is cool, but can be tough to set up
[10:35:12] <MatmaRex>	 !visualeditor
[10:35:12] <wm-bot>	 VisualEditor is a project to create a simple editor for MediaWiki that would make it far simpler for people to contribute to Wikimedia projects. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor and #mediawiki-visualeditor channel.
[10:35:23] <MatmaRex>	 (and is still in beta)
[10:35:50] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: $wgMemoryLimit = "50M";
[10:39:21] <Nemo_bis>	 MatmaRex: and?
[10:39:43] <MatmaRex>	 Nemo_bis: well, good luck :)
[10:41:10] <Nemo_bis>	 I surely won't run such an experiment myself if that's what you're trying to say :)
[10:46:27] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, sorry about late reply. I just had a phone call. thanks a lot for your answer. I saw VisualEditor before. Regardless it's hard or not to be setup, the feature is limited. it can not do table and the UI is very hard to be used compared to CKEditor. I will try to figure out how to integrate CKeditor with mediawiki. thanks. 
[10:52:07] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, I just read wgRawHtml manual, it's said this was dangerous because js code can be inserted. but the thing is I just need html markup, I don't need js. how can I enable raw html, but disable js input? any plugins to handle this? thanks. 
[10:53:21] <MatmaRex>	 sgo11: you can not enable raw HTML :) sanitizing HTML is hard
[10:53:43] <MatmaRex>	 there are the extensions linked at the bottom of the documentation
[10:53:55] <MatmaRex>	 (no idea if they work, never used them)
[10:55:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable $wgImportSources for bnwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57147  +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[10:55:53] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, I think it should be very easy to remove <script> tags. I just don't code php. if this is python or js, I can write the plugin by myself. thanks for the answer. I will try to figure out how to disable <script> tag with "$wgRawHtml = true;"
[10:56:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide upgrade path for jira users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58794  +comment (10tim)
[10:56:36] <MatmaRex>	 sgo11: there are more thing to get rid of than just script tags, unfortunately
[10:57:08] <MatmaRex>	 sgo11: here's a non-exhaustive list of things you need to protect against: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/XSS_Filter_Evasion_Cheat_Sheet
[10:58:51] <sgo11>	 MatmaRex, got it. thanks. let me see. 
[10:59:49] <MatmaRex>	 basically, you are very unlikely to get this right :) MediaWiki is a mature software package and we had an XSS-related security release just a few weeks ago
[11:00:22] <MatmaRex>	 (and we use pretty coarse-grained HTML filtering too, only allowing certain whitelisted tags and attirbutes)
[11:01:41] <tinaj>	 I'm working on this bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58402 . I installed Flow. But it doesn't seem to work.
[11:02:36] <tinaj>	 Anyone knows how to fix this?
[11:02:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Document how to use federated commonswiki and wikidatawiki databases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58802  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[11:03:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Automate creation of federated tables and document their usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57876  +comment (10Tim Landscheidt)
[11:04:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Federate database centralauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52559  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[11:04:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Automate creation of federated tables and document their usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57876  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[11:09:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parameter $1 of message "mwe-upwiz-api-warning-exists" has to be a full URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56267  +comment (1001tonythomas)
[11:16:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move pywikipedia.org from Toolserver to labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58803  +comment (10tim)
[11:29:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide namespace IDs and names in the databases similar to toolserver.namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48625  +comment (10tim)
[11:32:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow other domains in $wgCopyUploadsDomains to enable full support of upload_by_url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45735  +comment (10maic274)
[11:39:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Copy contents of https://svn.toolserver.org/ to Wikimedia git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58801  +comment (10tim)
[11:45:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lua: Add expensive function getEntity(id) for non-connected entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58856  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[11:49:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No update for geowiki's data for 2013-12-15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58578  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[11:49:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No update for geowiki's data for 2013-12-15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58578  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[11:51:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) autocompletion for commons-media datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58852  summary (10Lydia Pintscher)
[11:53:19] <lbenedix>	 the api of gerrit delivers invalid json
[11:53:27] <lbenedix>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/projects/?d
[11:53:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wbmergeitems isn't merging claims properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58850   +need-volunteer (10Lydia Pintscher)
[11:55:14] <lbenedix>	 there are 5 character in front of the actual content: ")]}'\n"
[11:55:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Redundant site choice in "Wikimedia Commons page linked to this item" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58849  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[11:57:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Consistency of interwiki links to Commons with properties linking Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58851  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[12:00:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PYWP-2 Multilingual development (jira testing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58820  minor->15enhancement (10xqt)
[12:01:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PYWP-9 create library for diffs, expand userlib - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58819  minor->15enhancement (10xqt)
[12:12:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Maximum number of values in wbgetentities is limited to 200? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58799   +need-volunteer (10Lydia Pintscher)
[12:14:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PYWP-24 Update cosmetic_changes.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58809  minor->normal; +comment (10xqt)
[12:22:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Symmetrical and complementary properties should really work reciprocally - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58853  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[12:22:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) inverse properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49165  +comment (10Lydia Pintscher)
[12:27:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable $wgImportSources for bnwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57147  +comment (10pratyyaghosh)
[12:35:17] <tinaj>	 Working on this bug:https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58402. I installed Flow extension on my localhost. I can see it on the Special:Version page and can't really see it on my wiki anywhere. Anyone knows why?
[12:37:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Language Converter for Portuguese in a testwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26121  +comment (10Tony Thomas)
[12:39:13] <durga>	 Hey, I am working on the bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi , can someone please help me with that bug?
[12:41:23] <tonythomas01_>	 durga: I hope you forgot the bug id 
[12:42:05] <durga>	 bug 41085 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi
[12:48:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) PYWP-24 Update cosmetic_changes.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58809  +comment (10xqt)
[12:50:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parameter $1 of message "mwe-upwiz-api-warning-exists" has to be a full URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56267  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[13:04:04] <Pratyya>	 Is there anyone available thay can give me the importer bit on testwiki so I can import a script from bn I've been working on and want to test further without blowing bengali wiki up?
[13:04:07] <Pratyya>	 I'm https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pratyya_Ghosh
[13:05:47] <p858snake|l>	 just copy and paste it?
[13:05:57] <Technical_13>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Pratyya_Ghosh 
[13:06:13] <Technical_13>	 I would have given the right but importer isn't one that a crat can give.
[13:06:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) inverse properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49165  (10sju-w)
[13:25:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Autocompletion in properties linking Commons pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58852  (10sju-w)
[13:27:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Autocompletion in properties linking Commons pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58852  (10sju-w)
[13:33:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Consistency of interwiki links to Commons with properties linking Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58851  (10sju-w)
[13:43:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Interwiki links to Commons are not displayed at Wikipedia pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58860 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[13:45:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Autocompletion in properties linking Commons pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58852  (10Lydia Pintscher)
[13:47:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CurlHttpRequest fails with curl < 7.16.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58178  +comment (10slboat)
[13:55:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] Missing Toolserver features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58791  (10Jarry1250)
[13:55:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mirror the same font packages as production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58740  (10Jarry1250)
[14:01:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create status page / sitenotice page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58795  +comment (10tim)
[14:03:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) change "username" to "email address" in "not valid" error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50376  +comment (1001tonythomas)
[14:03:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) change "username" to "email address" in "not valid" error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50376  (10Tony Thomas)
[14:19:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Oauth support to Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30348  +comment (10Dan Garry)
[14:33:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Feature Request: Transclusion Preprocessing Hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17131  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[14:33:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Feature Request: Transclusion Preprocessing Hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17131  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[14:38:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) change "username" to "email address" in "not valid" error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50376  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:38:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) change "username" to "email address" in "not valid" error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50376  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:40:07] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Parser function - unidirectional inclusion of interwiki list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58861 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; ()
[14:43:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improve interface for MediaHandlers to add JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58478  +comment (10gtisza)
[14:44:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Empty string displayed instead of Full Name/username in email notifications when no User: page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49017  +comment (10qubit)
[14:47:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload fails and app crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58857  04BLOCKER->04CRIT; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:48:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Have the link inspector inform users if they're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page, or reinserting the same link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50240  +comment (10Raimond Spekking)
[14:55:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) NetworkAuth: Security: Bad IP range recognition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38117  +comment (10aklapper)
[14:57:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Kindle format (.mobi) output to "Create a book" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58621  +comment (10aklapper)
[15:39:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ang.wikipedia: "Ƿicipǣdia:Nīƿlicu_ƿord_teohhunga" -> "Wikipǣdia:Nīwlicu word teohhunga" redirect broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58862 minor; MediaWiki: Redirects; ()
[15:56:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) NetworkAuth: Security: Bad IP range recognition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38117  +comment (1001tonythomas)
[16:26:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide upgrade path for jira users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58794  +comment (10valhallasw)
[16:28:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move pywikipedia.org from Toolserver to labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58803  +comment (10valhallasw)
[16:35:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update favicon spcom.ico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58787  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:37:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ang: translations for "User:" and "User talk:" and aliases for them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58863 minor; MediaWiki: Internationalization; ()
[16:38:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) EOFError writing dict to cache file occured in featured.py - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58864 normal; Pywikibot: General; ()
[16:39:29] <Niharika>	 @seen YuviPanda
[16:39:29] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: Last time I saw YuviPanda they were talking in the channel, they are still in the channel #wikimedia-mobile at 12/20/2013 10:33:40 PM (1d18h5m48s ago)
[16:40:00] <Niharika>	 @seen Niharika
[16:40:00] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: are you really looking for yourself?
[16:40:00] <Niharika>	 @seen wm-bot
[16:40:01] <Niharika>	 @seen sucheta
[16:40:02] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: I am right here
[16:40:02] <wm-bot>	 Niharika: Last time I saw sucheta they were changing the nickname to , but  is no longer in channel #wikimedia-office at 12/18/2013 7:18:39 AM (4d9h21m21s ago)
[16:40:35] <Niharika>	 wm-bot: You are cool, dude. 
[16:41:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ang: translations for "User:" and "User talk:" and aliases for them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58863  minor->normal (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[17:08:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:08:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) [tracking] toolserver.org tools that have not been migrated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58865 normal; Tool Labs tools: [other]; ()
[17:08:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Toolserver migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58788  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:12:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate http://toolserver.org/~artem/ru_wikinews_rss.xml to Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58866 normal; Tool Labs tools: [other]; ()
[17:12:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] toolserver.org tools that have not been migrated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58865  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:14:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate https://toolserver.org/~bawolff/en-wn-editor-stats.php to Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58867 normal; Tool Labs tools: [other]; ()
[17:14:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] toolserver.org tools that have not been migrated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58865  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:15:34] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate https://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/ to Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58868 normal; Tool Labs tools: [other]; ()
[17:15:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] toolserver.org tools that have not been migrated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58865  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:17:55] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Migrate https://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php to Tool Labs and provide redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58869 normal; Tool Labs tools: [other]; ()
[17:17:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] toolserver.org tools that have not been migrated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58865  (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:21:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678  +comment (10Theopolisme)
[17:24:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate https://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/* to Tool Labs and provide redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58869  summary; +comment (10Merlijn van Deen)
[17:24:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Setting $wgCopyUploadsFromSpecialUpload = true does not trigger duplicate filename detection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52978  (10tobias.brink)
[17:25:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678  +comment (10bingle-admin)
[17:30:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Empty string displayed instead of Full Name/username in email notifications when no User: page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49017  +comment (10mails2vichu)
[17:38:45] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) PL Wikisource default descriptions... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58870 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[18:21:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019  +comment (10qgil)
[18:47:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) grid default output location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54054  +comment (10tim)
[18:49:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move RENDER to Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58798  summary (10Tim Landscheidt)
[18:49:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) max_user_connections too low - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49872  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[18:51:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Move RENDER to Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58798  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[18:51:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Toolserver migration (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58788  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[18:51:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [tracking] OSM on Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58797  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[19:00:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: No warning is given when users try to leave a page with an open and altered text field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  +comment (10okeyes)
[19:07:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: No warning is given when users try to leave a page with an open and altered text field. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  +comment (10Ryan Schmidt)
[19:11:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: Flow should recognise and follow mw-prefsection-editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  summary (10Oliver Keyes)
[19:11:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: Flow should recognise and follow wpuseeditwarning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  summary (10Oliver Keyes)
[19:12:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678  +comment (10jrobson)
[19:12:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: Flow should recognise and follow wpuseeditwarning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58402  +comment (10okeyes)
[19:14:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678  +comment (10Geoffrey Mon)
[19:15:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Feature request: Cannot view source of old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54484  +comment (10jrobson)
[19:28:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable Echo ping notifications on a per-page basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50628  +comment (10Ricordisamoa)
[19:29:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow autogrow on text input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43823  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[19:41:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Disable Echo ping notifications on a per-page basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50628  +comment (10ricordisamoa)
[20:05:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tab index sorting doesn't make sense - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29199  +comment (10Michael Zajac)
[20:09:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide upgrade path for jira users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58794  +comment (10tim)
[20:13:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use black font color for messages and interface by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58683  +comment (10matma.rex)
[20:15:50] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Set up Icinga monitoring for mail queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58871 enhancement; Wikimedia Labs: tools; ()
[20:22:36] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Set locale if system uses wrong default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58872 major; Pywikibot: General; ()
[20:23:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set locale if system uses wrong default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58872  (10DrTrigon)
[20:23:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unicode encoding grid engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58181  (10DrTrigon)
[20:36:18] <physikerwelt>	 I was just looking at the help pages for the extensions. In the fact boxex there are fields for hooks version and parameters. I'm wondering if there is no bot, transferring the values for that from the source. To my mind it's a bad design if one has to replicate that information manually
[20:38:06] <Vulpix>	 Even maintenance scripts help pages are done manually, and some of them contain just a formatted copy&paste from its --help command :P
[20:38:14] <saper>	 physikerwelt: analyzing PHP code only to get this info seems like an overkill, but if you'd like to parse thse...
[20:38:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set locale if system uses wrong default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58872  +comment (10Merlijn van Deen)
[20:39:51] <Vulpix>	 and I know what I'm saying. I've updated some of them after discovering they accepted some more parameters than what the help page lists
[20:40:22] <Vulpix>	 ideally, devs submitting code that add new functionality, hooks, parameters, etc, *should* update help pages also
[20:40:39] <Vulpix>	 but the true thing is that almost nobody does that
[20:41:23] <MatmaRex>	 the problems is that updating the docs is a post-merge task, and when code gets merged, you sometimes don't even remember what the change was about
[20:41:55] <Vulpix>	 yeah, specially when it takes months to get merged
[20:42:03] <MatmaRex>	 we should either automate that entirely or come up with a "drafts" process for mw.org, where drafts would be written/accepted at the same time as corresponding code changes
[20:42:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set locale if system uses wrong default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58872  +comment (10Marcin Cieślak)
[20:42:49] <physikerwelt>	 ok I was just wondering. The update in the math extension invalidates most of the help page
[20:43:01] <Vulpix>	 that would give edit conflicts, for sure. But someone could manually review them. And at least that would be a reminder
[20:43:24] <physikerwelt>	 and I did not find a process description how to update the documentation
[20:43:35] <Vulpix>	 MatmaRex: good idea. I'd like to see CR-1 for changes like this without a corresponding documentation change
[20:49:13] <physikerwelt>	 the question is: if the documentation is updated before the change is merged, the documentation might be wrong for several month... maybe an idea would be to put essential parts of the documentation to the git repository
[20:50:43] <MatmaRex>	 we should really document everything in the repo and autogenerate the mw.org docs
[20:51:03] <MatmaRex>	 (they are useful because they can be easily translateable)
[20:51:45] <physikerwelt>	 is there already a way to realize that or is that just a whish... I mean at github this seems to posssible
[20:51:50] <Vulpix>	 there's already http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ for that
[20:52:39] <MatmaRex>	 doc.wikimedia.org is for code documentation
[20:52:51] <MatmaRex>	 mediawiki.org is for user manuals, mostly
[20:53:38] <physikerwelt>	 I think it would be good to find a way how the main extension page could be generated from the README
[20:54:04] <physikerwelt>	 this would even save effort for extension maintainer who have to update both documents today
[20:54:41] * saper  would like not to have more conflicts to merge because of documentation files in git

[20:56:04] <Vulpix>	 We have RELEASE_NOTES in the repository and a user needs to manually update it https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Release_notes/1.22&&action=history
[20:56:41] <Vulpix>	 that's insane
[20:57:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set locale if system uses wrong default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58872  (10DrTrigon)
[20:58:26] <physikerwelt>	 Maybe there is a mediawiki extension that can include wikitext from external sources such as git repositories?
[20:58:56] <saper>	 checkout history of the levitation project :(
[20:58:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please upload WikiTV videos on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58671  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[21:06:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019  +comment (10tomasz)
[21:13:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Feature request: Cannot view source of old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54484  +comment (10theopolismewiki)
[21:17:51] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Left and right arrow keys jump to images if image has previously been viewed in Media Viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58873 minor; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; ()
[21:18:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Left and right arrow keys jump to images if image has previously been viewed in Media Viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58873  (10Robin Green)
[21:20:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unicode encoding grid engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58181  +comment (10tim)
[21:23:48] <SupaHam>	 Hi, whenever I try to setup media wiki it's always a blank page: http://wiki.supaham.com/wiki/mw-config/index.php
[21:23:59] <SupaHam>	 Does anyone know what might be causing this issue?
[21:25:09] <valhallasw>	 SupaHam: it returns a HTTP/500 internal server error
[21:25:18] <valhallasw>	 so you should check your error log
[21:25:19] <SupaHam>	 What does that mean?
[21:25:27] <SupaHam>	 Ah okay, btw where does it say that?
[21:25:33] <SupaHam>	 because it's all blank for me
[21:26:03] <valhallasw>	 SupaHam: in Chrome's network tab
[21:26:23] <valhallasw>	 but in any case -- blank pages are typically server errors, so the server error log is the place to start
[21:26:36] <SupaHam>	 okay, looking into it
[21:28:25] <SupaHam>	 valhallasw, http://s.supaham.com/tjDDNq.txt
[21:28:33] <MatmaRex>	 !debugging
[21:28:33] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[21:28:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Feature request: Cannot view source of old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54484  +comment (10theopolismewiki)
[21:29:01] <Vulpix>	 SupaHam: You need to install PHP with XML support
[21:29:29] <Vulpix>	 maybe the php-xml package
[21:32:42] <Vulpix>	 SupaHam: be sure to restart apache after that ;)
[21:32:46] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) #ask yield defective Html table syntax. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58875 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; ()
[21:32:55] <SupaHam>	 yeah one second, yum is failing me atm
[21:34:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Text area fields are too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32894  +comment (10yaron57)
[21:36:08] <SupaHam>	 YES, it worked!
[21:36:17] <SupaHam>	 Damn he left, thanks to him anyways!
[21:37:18] <SupaHam>	 thanks valhallasw :D
[21:37:28] <valhallasw>	 you're welcome :-)
[21:40:28] <physikerwelt>	 ^^ oh there is a lot of questionable documentation e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Math/math_table maybe parts of that could be done by jenkins
[21:41:04] <physikerwelt>	 I know jenkins uses sqlite
[21:49:24] <ashley>	 physikerwelt: at least questionable documentation still beats the "figure out yourself from crappy source code & the end result" type of documentation! ;)
[22:03:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ang: translations for "User:" and "User talk:" and aliases for them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58863  +comment (10tomasz)
[22:07:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ang: translations for "User:" and "User talk:" and aliases for them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58863  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:07:48] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ang: translations for "User:" and "User talk:" and aliases for them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58863  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[22:09:19] <Mastergalen>	 Does anyone know how to merge existing user tables from different databases?
[22:10:06] <SupaHam>	 Woot, I set up my media wiki: http://wiki.supaham.com
[22:10:55] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) SSL endpoints log %-encoded URLs logged as \x-encoded URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58876 normal; Analytics: General/Unknown; ()
[22:11:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SSL endpoints log %-encoded URLs logged as \x-encoded URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58876  (10christian)
[22:12:24] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Unknown error: "tpt-unknown-page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58877 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[22:24:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SSL endpoints log %-encoded URLs logged as \x-encoded URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58876  (10christian)
[22:25:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Javascript escapes in URLs ("\x" rather than "%") are not decoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58316  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[22:25:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Javascript escapes in URLs ("\x" rather than "%") are not decoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58316  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[22:27:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Migrate https://toolserver.org/~bawolff/en-wn-editor-stats.php to Tool Labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58867  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[22:29:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Print/export default state is now indeterminate: *Settings.php problem? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54886  +comment (10matma.rex)
[22:30:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Print/export default state is now indeterminate: *Settings.php problem? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54886  +comment (10matma.rex)
[22:36:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SSL endpoints log %-encoded URLs logged as \x-encoded URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58876  +comment (10bingle-admin)
[22:44:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Javascript escapes in URLs ("\x" rather than "%") are not decoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58316  +comment (10matma.rex)
[23:06:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Javascript escapes in URLs ("\x" rather than "%") are not decoded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58316  (10christian)
[23:17:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Empty string displayed instead of Full Name/username in email notifications when no User: page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49017  +comment (10qubit)
[23:59:19] <onei>	 does anyone know why http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_configuration_settings_still_in_use isn't showing all members of that category?
[23:59:29] <onei>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgArticlePath for example