[00:21:25] 03(mod) Create API Upload Wizard Smoke Tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58555 (10Jeff Hall) [00:21:25] 03(mod) investigate using API to set up test data for browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58939 +comment (10Jeff Hall) [00:25:19] 03(mod) Create API Upload Wizard Smoke Tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58555 (10Jeff Hall) [00:41:15] 03(mod) Timestamp is grammatically wrong [regression] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46541 +comment (10Nemo) [00:41:16] 03(mod) CLDR breaks core timestamp tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55886 (10Nemo) [00:47:16] and now who's ty84 [01:03:03] 03(mod) [Insertables] Variable names containing hyphen are truncated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58746 (10Nemo) [01:07:54] 03(mod) Edit button not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58966 +comment (10self) [01:14:16] Nemo_bis: hehe [01:15:08] found him [01:20:39] 03(mod) Special:Import don't work as expected on br.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58936 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:20:43] 03(mod) Special:Import don't work as expected on br.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58936 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [02:29:34] does Daniel Kinzler (Duesentrieb) come here? [02:31:49] Is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58954 reasonable? [02:34:07] 03(mod) Special:MostLinkedCategories shows links to non-existent categories with 0 members - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58967 (10dariogiova) [02:47:49] 03(mod) Enable namespace "Mutir�es:" for WIkimedia Brasil - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28686 +comment (10Al-Scandar Solstag) [04:59:42] 03(mod) Local sysops should be allowed to grant translation flags on br.wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58123 +comment (10lugusto) [05:20:28] 03(mod) Set initial UI language based on Accept-Language header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58908 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:20:29] 03(mod) Set initial UI language based on Accept-Language header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58908 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:26:53] 03(mod) Pre-login destination not remembered when login succeeds in Wikimania Scholarships application - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58558 (10Bryan Davis) [06:04:07] 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678 +comment (10gerritadmin) [06:04:08] 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [08:41:42] 03(mod) Background image on Apply section should stretch, not loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58893 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:02:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Using forward-delete key on a PC causes odd cursor placement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58221 +comment (10elitre82) [09:03:57] This page does not quite make sense: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPasswordSalt [09:04:12] It conflicts with: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_table [09:05:28] The latter page says that every user_password value begins with either the string ":A:" or the string ":B:". However neither the SQL nor the PHP shown will produce either of those prefixes. [09:06:01] I think $wgPasswordSalt is wrong in this case. [09:06:03] I'm particularly confused about where the salt comes from. [09:06:11] legoktm, I think you are right. [09:06:30] the salt is just a random string [09:06:36] > A pseudo-random hexadecimal 31-bit salt between 0x0 and 0x7fff ffff (inclusive), [09:06:44] You mean, does not matter *what* it is?? [09:07:03] I'm not a crypto wizard, I don't understand that. [09:07:08] well, it has to be equal to whatever you hashed the password with [09:07:36] Help me out here, you sound as if you understand. [09:08:40] so basically the password is stored as md5( $salt . '-' . md5( $password ) ) [09:08:48] so when the user enters their password [09:09:00] the salt stored in the table needs to be the same as the one used in the original hash [09:09:08] I'm doing a scripted insert into the user table -- can't use the API for this, unfortunately. I have in hand the user name and a temporary password. Where will I go to get that salt in order to create the salted, hashed password? [09:09:55] There is no column in the user table, i.e., user_salt. [09:09:57] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/blob/master/includes/User.php#L4459 is the actual logic [09:10:15] I'll look but I doubt I'll understand it. Thanks the same. [09:10:30] :B:$salt-$hashedpassword [09:10:37] that's how its stored in the table [09:10:52] oh, no its :B:$salt:$hashedpassword [09:10:55] Ah ah ah. The salt itself is *not* hashed. [09:11:29] * xiong 's lightbulb begins to glow [09:11:33] yeah [09:11:39] its just used to compute the hash. [09:12:06] Right right right. [09:12:18] So that now makes sense. [09:12:57] I can't decide if it's masochistic to do it all in one SQL line; they're bad enough without that. [09:14:18] In any case the provided SQL and PHP appear to be... unsalted recipes, which contradicts "... when this option is set...". [09:14:40] Also, neither will work without the ':A:'. [09:15:13] Let me fiddle -- and thanks a huge heap! [09:15:18] legoktm++ [09:15:34] :) [09:16:18] I'm going to go afk now, someone else here might be able to help, or you can drop a note on my talk page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm [09:19:41] legoktm: :) [09:31:32] anyone here uses smc.mw? trying to use it as a parsing lib for mediawiki syntax but it's completely undocumented [09:35:40] 03(mod) [Insertables] Wrong suggestion of $ variable names in Special:Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58445 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:35:41] 03(mod) [Insertables] Wrong suggestion of $ variable names in Special:Translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58445 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:35:41] 03(mod) [Insertables] Variable names containing hyphen are truncated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58746 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:35:46] 03(mod) [Insertables] Variable names containing hyphen are truncated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58746 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:44:25] Hope everyone had a good Christmas. Is there anyone here who can help me with Scribunto? [09:52:57] Actually, legoktm said just enough. I now have written a snippet that generates this hashed password correctly. :) [09:57:45] Can anyone assist with Scribunto? [10:16:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:$wgPasswordSalt [10:18:20] jleclanche, only MediaWiki can parse mediawikimarkup, he he. [10:18:46] xiong: I'm not interested in 100% coverage [10:18:54] :) [10:18:55] and barely interested in template support [10:19:00] just the usual suspects [10:19:28] Well, that's good. I suspect that with enough ParserFunctions enabled, the output is nondeterministic. [10:20:20] Sorry; just stoked I cleared that salt hurdle. [10:31:39] 03(mod) chapter interwiki points at non existant domain en.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45569 +comment (10Nemo) [10:31:40] 03(mod) chapter: interwiki from sr.wikipedia point to missing sr.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20061 +comment (10Nemo) [10:36:55] 03(mod) Turn off $wgInterwikiMagic for chapter sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58958 +comment (10Nemo) [10:37:51] 03(mod) chapter: interwiki from sr.wikipedia point to missing sr.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20061 (10Nemo) [10:37:52] 03(mod) "chapter:" interwiki link doesn't work for non .wikimedia.org chapters wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24442 (10Nemo) [10:46:43] 03(mod) Define max width for the content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43231 +comment (10amiadb) [10:48:38] 03(mod) duplicate link: is not HTML-linked to file page, not red and points to the wrong URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606 +comment (10Nemo) [10:50:09] 03(mod) Parameter $1 of message "mwe-upwiz-api-warning-exists" has to be a full URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56267 (10Nemo) [10:54:55] 03(mod) Missing message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54524 +comment (10Nemo) [10:57:48] 03(mod) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54028 +comment (10Nemo) [10:58:30] 03(mod) Missing message in connection with the UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54460 +comment (10Nemo) [11:02:55] 03(mod) Add support for more types of Flickr URLs to UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42964 +comment (10Nemo) [11:06:07] 03(mod) Confusing annotation about mandatory fields in Special:UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42775 -easy ; +comment (10Nemo) [11:09:55] 03(NEW) Several instances of wm-bot DOWN - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58968 major; Tools: WM-Bot; () [11:09:56] 03(mod) Local sysops should be able to add users to translationadmin group on brwikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58123 -shell +community-consensus-needed; summary; +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [11:33:50] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs extension on ce.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56408 +comment (10Oleg) [11:37:00] 03(mod) Turn off $wgInterwikiMagic for chapter sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58958 +comment (10This, that and the other) [11:44:07] 03(mod) Turn off $wgInterwikiMagic for chapter sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58958 normal->minor; +comment (10Nemo) [11:48:03] 03(mod) "Replace all" is very slow: WikiEditor should do a one-step replace when replacing all occurrences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23510 +comment (10Helder) [12:15:05] $wgInterwikiMagic, what an interesting name, very self-explanatory [12:41:04] 03(mod) Titles parameter is not set correctly from URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39197 +comment (10gsvick) [12:52:02] 03(mod) Extra output by CleanChanges if tidy off messes up monobook and creates invalid html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58439 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:52:02] 03(mod) Extra output by CleanChanges if tidy off messes up monobook and creates invalid html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58439 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [12:54:20] 03(mod) the diff cant show the chinese font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58960 +comment (10slboat) [13:01:03] 03(mod) Extra output by CleanChanges if tidy off messes up monobook and creates invalid html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58439 +comment (10matx-1997) [13:03:42] Hello everyone. [13:07:53] 03(mod) Extra output by CleanChanges if tidy off messes up monobook and creates invalid html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58439 +comment (10federicoleva) [13:11:55] 03(mod) Extra output by CleanChanges if tidy off messes up monobook and creates invalid html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58439 (10Nemo) [13:15:03] 03(mod) "specified index out of bounds" issue when moving a statement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58394 (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:19:47] 03(mod) Consistently use ParserOptions::getUserLang for generating entity pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58344 (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:23:31] 03(mod) Inject the term box into cached page content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58342 (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:28:14] 03(mod) Fatal error in PropertyInfoTableBuilder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58503 (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:30:08] 03(mod) Purge foreign pages using an image/media file where this data is available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22390 +comment (10jeanfrederic.wiki) [13:33:50] 03(mod) moving a page with suppressredirect produces misleading message "A redirect has been created" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45348 +comment (10Graham87) [13:34:07] 03(mod) Make wikibugs-l@ not receive bug report changes that are only in the CC field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43130 +comment (10federicoleva) [13:43:07] hello i have a question. I want to set a new language from a url but when i add "&setlang=qqq" to a link in the text of an article and click on it after saving it escapes into &setlang=qqq not chaning the language. What can be done to avoid escaping? [13:55:06] is that just in the html or the link itself? [13:55:24] & should never appear alone int he source of the html [13:55:45] it should be encoded as & whihc the page shows and treats as & [13:59:13] 03(NEW) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [14:02:59] 03(mod) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 (10Nemo) [14:03:00] 03(mod) Bugs affecting translatewiki.net (errors from MediaWiki master) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39480 (10Nemo) [14:17:57] 03(mod) Define max width for the content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43231 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:29:40] 03(mod) the diff cant show the chinese font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58960 +comment (10aklapper) [14:30:06] 03(mod) Special:MostLinkedCategories shows links to non-existent categories with 0 members - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58967 (10Andre Klapper) [14:31:08] 03(mod) the diff cant show the chinese font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58960 +comment (10slboat) [14:35:39] one can't set language to qqq anyway [14:40:00] 03(mod) showDiff() highlighting limitation due to difflib design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55329 (10xqt) [14:42:08] 03(mod) interwiki links on subpages in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55323 (10xqt) [14:42:28] 03(mod) -hintfile: option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55313 (10xqt) [14:43:57] 03(mod) Unsightly blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58540 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:43:59] 03(mod) Unsightly blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58540 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:45:48] 03(NEW) TwnMainPage-created accounts don't let NewUserMessage welcome them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58970 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TwnMainPage; () [14:47:19] 03(mod) Sitenotice can't be dismissed by unregistered users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57732 +comment (10Dror S.) [14:50:34] 03(mod) Promoted sandbox accounts don't get NewUserMessage welcome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58970 summary; +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [14:51:01] 03(mod) Add support for Anonnotice to DismissableSitenotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26875 +comment (10Dror S.) [14:51:04] 03(mod) Sitenotice can't be dismissed by unregistered users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57732 +comment (10Dror S.) [14:56:32] 03(mod) "Suppress redirect" checkbox on Special:MovePage should not just disappear if ContentHandler doesn't support redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58017 (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [15:01:19] 03(mod) "Suppress redirect" checkbox on Special:MovePage should not just disappear if ContentHandler doesn't support redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58017 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:04:57] 03(mod) Confusing annotation about mandatory fields in Special:UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42775 +comment (10bakert) [15:05:15] 03(NEW) Add a action=render "text" parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58971 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [15:07:22] 03(mod) Vectorize all project logos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52019 +comment (10tomasz) [15:15:39] hello i have a question. I want to set a new language from a url but when i add "&setlang=qqq" to a link in the text of an article and click on it after saving it escapes into &setlang=qqq not changing the language. What can be done to avoid escaping? [15:17:40] 03(mod) Add a action=render "text" parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58971 +comment (10brettz9) [15:18:38] gleki: [14:55:06] is that just in the html or the link itself? & should never appear alone int he source of the html it should be encoded as & whihc the page shows and treats as & [15:20:51] gleki: you can't pass parameters via internal links [[]], you have to use external links [], and you can't set the language to qqq anyway [15:40:59] Nikerabbit: Vulpix: okay. I have an image gallery. When i add link=example.com/wiki/Title&setlang=es and click on that image it redirects me to example.com/wiki/Title&setlang=es thus not allowing me to change the language [15:42:29] gleki: you shoud use http:// in front of all your external links, otherwise they're internal [15:43:22] Vulpix: sorry for giving u wrong information. i used http:// here is the wiki mw.lojban.org [15:43:28] i used http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=%C2%A1Bienvenido!_(bau_lo_spano)&setlang=es [15:43:56] and it redirects me to http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=%C2%A1Bienvenido!_(bau_lo_spano)&setlang=es [15:44:14] when clicking on "Espanol" image [15:46:06] uh, you're right. There seems to be a bug with gallery and link= [15:46:34] and now that you mention that, I think I've seen it reported already [15:48:14] Yeah, it was but for anchoring a specific section of a page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images#Linked_images_in_gallery [15:49:05] I know I shouldn't ask that using IRC, but may I ask a technical question? [15:51:10] Vulpix: is the bug already opened? i never made requests to mediakwiki [15:53:24] I haven't found it. But I'm going to add it myself [15:54:08] thank you [16:03:09] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Certain text not found on foundationwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58953 (10Nik Everett) [16:07:18] 03(mod) handling of link parameter a bit odd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47646 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [16:07:40] I've added that to bug 47646 ^ [16:08:10] 03(mod) Background image on Apply section should stretch, not loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58893 (10Bryan Davis) [16:08:48] i spotted a typo in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor and tried to fix it. it is "compatbility" in status section. i tried "edit status" in opera on linux, and that gives me empty description, no way to edit existing one [16:09:11] so this can be taken as two bugreports one about inability to edit status with opera, another for the typo in the status ;) [16:11:37] Richlv: actually, that section is a template, VE won't allow to edit it directly. Try editing it from here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/status (the bottom section) [16:12:25] 03(NEW) CirrusSearch: Monitor the different between the number of pages in the index and the number of pages in the Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58972 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; () [16:12:31] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Monitor the different between the number of pages in the index and the number of pages in the Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58972 (10Nik Everett) [16:12:32] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Certain text not found on foundationwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58953 (10Nik Everett) [16:13:08] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Certain text not found on foundationwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58953 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [16:13:12] Although I must admit that I was a bit chocked to not be able to edit it at first time. I had to switch to the plain wiki editor to realize it was transcuded from another page [16:15:07] Vulpix, i spotted it being a template, but default link 'edit status' just does not work - which i suspect it should :) [16:17:15] 03(mod) Alpha: expanding a section at right opens editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56209 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [16:17:15] 03(mod) Alpha: expanding a section at right opens editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56209 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:18:12] I don't see any "edit status" option o_O [16:19:23] 03(mod) handling of link parameter a bit odd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47646 minor->normal; +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [16:21:32] 03(mod) prop=info&inprop=preload does not return text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58963 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:22:31] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Certain text not found on foundationwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58953 (10Nik Everett) [16:29:52] 03(mod) Some parameters' descriptions are unclear (titles, pageids, revids) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34962 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:48:25] how to return the code of the user's current language in a page? [16:48:38] 03(NEW) Implement globalusage in site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58973 normal; Pywikibot: General; () [16:50:59] What's the best way to alter the sidebar based on which namespace you're current in? [16:51:06] currently* [17:00:48] 03(mod) prop=info&inprop=preload does not return text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58963 +comment (10thomaspt) [17:05:30] 03(mod) duplicate link: is not HTML-linked to file page, not red and points to the wrong URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606 +comment (10qgil) [17:07:57] 03(mod) node 0.10 memory leak / lockup of client (possible test cases) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58952 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:11:22] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Monitor the different between the number of pages in the index and the number of pages in the Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58972 (10Nik Everett) [17:12:30] does Mwe-upwiz-api-warning-exists in MediaUploader extensions shows up when a user uploads a file which is having filename similar to one that already exists ? [17:18:45] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: If the search starts with a namespace and yields a suggestion then add the namespace back to the suggestion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58348 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:20:18] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: If the search starts with a namespace and yields a suggestion then add the namespace back to the suggestion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58348 (10Nik Everett) [17:32:04] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 +comment (1001tonythomas) [17:35:14] 03(mod) Flow: auto-expanding usernames in "Hidden by" titles look hella-ugly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58919 +comment (10Maryana Pinchuk) [17:40:09] 03(mod) Apply mw.ui button styles to wpSave, wpPreview, and wpDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58296 (10Tony Thomas) [17:42:17] 03(mod) Flow: Test whether Flow works with dynamic-user-language templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58762 +comment (10Maryana Pinchuk) [17:50:14] 03(mod) CTA Signup Copy Changes override error messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58927 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:51:02] 03(mod) Add a action=render "text" parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58971 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [17:55:14] 03(mod) Interwiki links don't have alt text in Flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58723 (10Maryana Pinchuk) [18:03:28] 03(mod) Flow: no-JavaScript glitches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58019 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:03:30] 03(mod) Flow: no-JavaScript glitches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58019 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:07:51] 03(mod) investigate using API to set up test data for browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58939 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:07:55] 03(mod) investigate using API to set up test data for browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58939 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:10:47] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 +comment (10mtraceur) [18:13:12] 03(NEW) VisualEditor:500 (Internal Server Error) appearing while creating a link on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58974 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [18:15:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor:500 (Internal Server Error) appearing while creating a link on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58974 (10ryasmeen) [18:15:19] 03(mod) Bot being served Error: 503, Service Unavailable (default error page) for API action=edit requests on large pages (caused by parsing the page three times on save) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57026 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:15:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor:500 (Internal Server Error) appearing while creating a link on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58974 (10ryasmeen) [18:20:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor:500 (Internal Server Error) appearing while creating a link on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58974 (10ryasmeen) [18:22:48] 03(mod) Unsightly blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58540 +comment (10Jon) [18:24:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion template suggestions are no longer available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58406 (10ryasmeen) [18:27:07] 03(mod) Parsoid cannot connect to https-only host? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55369 +comment (10nobelx) [18:28:18] 03(mod) Add a action=render "text" parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58971 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [18:32:04] 03(mod) Unsightly blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58540 +comment (10jgonera) [18:32:57] 03(mod) Send 'no-cache' headers for authenticated users in Wikimania Scholarships application - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58678 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:33:31] 03(mod) Bot being served Error: 503, Service Unavailable (default error page) for API action=edit requests on large pages (caused by parsing the page three times on save) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57026 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [18:33:51] 03(mod) Set initial UI language based on Accept-Language header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58908 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:44:24] 03(mod) Alpha: expanding a section at right opens editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56209 (10Jon) [18:45:04] 03(mod) Alpha: expanding a section at right opens editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56209 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:45:16] 03(mod) prop=info&inprop=preload does not return text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58963 +comment (10mpaa.wiki) [18:47:35] 03(mod) Send 'no-cache' headers for authenticated users in Wikimania Scholarships application - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58678 (10Bryan Davis) [18:48:01] 03(mod) Set initial UI language based on Accept-Language header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58908 (10Bryan Davis) [18:48:24] 03(mod) Finish localizing wikimania scholarships UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58243 (10Bryan Davis) [18:49:35] Anyone familiar with Sribunto, or at least can give me a nudge in the right direction to find help [18:49:38] too many Br[iy][ao]ns around here [18:50:31] only two [18:51:00] hm? at very least three [18:51:21] 03(mod) investigate using API to set up test data for browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58939 +comment (10Jeff Hall) [18:51:40] 03(mod) Spoof the physical geolocation on QA tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58720 +comment (10Jeff Hall) [18:52:15] 03(mod) Investigate "No data received" errors from VE Chrome tests running via SauceLabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58756 +comment (10Jeff Hall) [18:53:01] 03(mod) browsertests: triggers for VisualEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53691 +comment (10Jeff Hall) [19:12:00] 03(mod) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [19:13:31] 03(mod) investigate using API to set up test data for browser tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58939 +comment (10jhall) [19:25:46] I'm getting an installation error: No DB drivers found for my postgres DB. I'm running nginx with fastcgi proxying the php requests, so I'm not sure what I'm missing. Ubuntu Server. [19:27:47] It was php5-pgsql! [19:27:58] I should add that to the mediawiki requirements for postgres [19:29:42] Cheekio: If you're using postgres, you're supposed to have the PHP drivers of that DB engine installed (same with mysql, sqlite, etc) [19:31:31] apparently [19:31:35] "DatabaseBase::factory no viable database extension found for type 'mysql'" [19:31:44] how do I let my install know that I'm trying to use postgres? [19:31:59] The installer fizzles after the second step [19:32:47] Cheekio: well, unfortunately, you've hit a bug in 1.22 :( [19:33:04] Should I roll back to a prior version? [19:33:24] Cheekio: you need to have mysql/mysqli PHP extension in order toinstall with a different DB engine support [19:33:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22/Known_issues (bug 58167) [19:33:49] Why didn't I think of this earlier >.< [19:34:29] <^demon|away> If you're choosing between mysql and mysqli, use mysqli. [19:34:30] Is that issue present in 1.23.1? [19:34:34] <^demon|away> mysql is old and bad. [19:34:39] <^demon|away> Probably. [19:34:47] 1.23.0 doesn't even exist [19:34:58] my mistake [19:35:07] 1.21.3 [19:35:08] 03(mod) Provide upgrade path for jira users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58794 +comment (10DrTrigon) [19:35:10] * ^demon|away changed a bunch of backend code for mysql and didn't bother looking at the installer :p [19:35:29] Cheekio: 1.21 doesn't have this error [19:35:47] Really? #php requires an invite? [19:36:02] what a surprise, php people being unfriendly :D [19:36:10] Don't quote me on that, but I'd recommed you going for 1.21 instead of 1.22, until 1.22 has more time to fix those issues :) [19:36:24] @Vulpix, I'll install 1.21.3 for now [19:36:35] <^demon|away> Or skip the installer :p [19:36:40] * ^demon|away goes |away for real now [19:37:17] Ha. [19:45:14] Well... this channel sure died quickly. [19:46:12] 03(mod) On page for files that don't exist, edit icon shouldn't open editor for articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58311 +comment (10Jared Flores) [19:48:07] Anynone know about SidebarEx decently? [19:48:24] It seems to be failing for me on this line: 'hooks'=> array( 'SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec' ), [19:53:25] 03(NEW) Flow: If no content is changed, the revision should not be saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58975 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [19:56:12] 03(mod) node 0.10 memory leak / lockup of client (possible test cases) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58952 (10ssastry) [19:57:29] mhmm [20:03:33] 03(mod) the diff cant show the chinese font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58960 +comment (10Max Semenik) [20:10:16] 03(NEW) PreloadingItemGenerator crashes with NoPage exception - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58976 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [20:11:48] 03(mod) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 +comment (10Siebrand Mazeland) [20:11:59] So uh, how does one go about finding help? [20:13:41] it's like a lottery... someone might know what you are talking about, or nobody knows [20:14:12] in some cases someone will figure it out with you, but only if such people are around, and this day might not be the best one for that [20:15:22] jama-: If it's a problem with that extension, ask on the extension's talk page or file a bug report. I imagine there's nobody idle here to spend time to figure out what's the problem and how to fix that [20:17:45] Nikerabbit: ...I just realized it was the day after Christmas... I imagine most people aren't working x.x [20:17:52] 03(NEW) Flow: board history has no link back to board - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58977 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [20:18:10] I doubt anyone works on sidebarex [20:18:19] what's the error message? [20:19:27] Nikerabbit: My debug log actually wasn't showing anything useful, which was somewhat frustrating [20:19:52] so the code is not executing? [20:21:22] debug log usually doesn't say anything if the extension developer has not made effort to put something in there [20:22:01] 03(mod) Preload of multiple-template parameter fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56099 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [20:22:17] Nikerabbit: sec [20:23:06] Nikerabbit: DatabaseBase::query: Writes done: REPLACE INTO `MediaWikimsg_resource` (mr_resource,mr_lang,mr_blob,mr_timestamp) VALUES ('user.options','en','{}','20131226202237') is the last line it reports. [20:23:11] Nikerabbit: Then it just stops... [20:23:27] yes [20:23:37] that's something that is done at the end of the request [20:23:41] it does not indicate any problem [20:24:17] 03(mod) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [20:24:50] Nikerabbit: It would complain about PEAR_Error not found, which went away when I included System.php before my includes for extensions [20:25:17] that complain can be ignoed as far as I know [20:32:01] 03(mod) "Data repair and upgrade" not completing using non-interactive job queue runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58969 +comment (10s.mazeland) [20:32:32] jama-: could you explain what is the thing you are observing, and what is the thing you are expecting? [20:33:08] Nikerabbit: It seems to be specific to SidebarEx/StubManager [20:33:48] https://code.google.com/p/mediawiki/source/browse/tags/SidebarEx/1.1.0/SidebarEx.php?r=1186 [20:34:05] if I change 'hooks' => array( 'SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec' ), to [20:34:12] 'hooks'=> 'SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec', [20:34:25] It manages to actually load the wiki, and it shows up in Special:Version...but [20:34:31] I don't think it actually loads anything [20:37:50] not nice code [20:38:13] Nikerabbit: ....yeah. [20:38:14] jama-: have you checked this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StubManager#Troubleshooting ? [20:39:03] Nikerabbit: Yeah, I'm loading StubManager before the dependency [20:39:22] Nikerabbit: I think my biggest frustration is the lack of any error messages when it clearly isn't loading... [20:41:29] jama-: I usually start tracing with var_dump where the code stops executing [20:41:58] jama-: but you could just by-pass the stub manager by removing the hooks declaration and doing it directly [20:42:21] http://pastebin.com/x9bzsjiF [20:42:53] 03(mod) Deleting of pages with high number of revisions makes server cry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11402 +comment (10Nathan Larson) [20:42:54] global $wgHooks[]; $wgHooks['SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec'][] = 'SidebarEx::hSkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec' ); [20:45:19] 03(mod) moving a page with suppressredirect produces misleading message "A redirect has been created" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45348 +comment (10aklapper) [20:45:20] 03(NEW) Blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58978 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [20:45:33] 03(mod) Unsightly blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58540 +comment (10Jon) [20:45:35] 03(mod) Blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58978 +comment (10jrobson) [20:48:13] jama-: can you try that? Remove the first [] and last ) to avoid syntax error. [20:48:28] 03(mod) Flow: If no content is changed, the revision should not be saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58975 +comment (10bingle-admin) [20:48:29] Nikerabbit: Giving it a whirl now. [20:48:44] 03(mod) Flow: board history has no link back to board - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58977 +comment (10bingle-admin) [20:48:59] $wgHooks['SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec'][] ='SidebarEx::hSkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec'; causes it not to load either... [20:49:13] Is there some really obvious setting I need to flip to allow hooks that I'm dumb and missed? [20:50:11] jama-: no [20:51:56] I'm afraid you have to manually find out why the code is not executed. I would start by checking that the hook is being called in SkinTemplate.php and work from that to SidebarEx::hSkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec [20:52:47] Nikerabbit: All right, I'll do some digging, thanks for vastly narrowing where I have to search :3 [20:53:54] 03(NEW) Nearby this page / Geonotahack shouldn't rely on the templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58979 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [21:04:56] 03(mod) Add talk/no talk namespace filters to Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11499 +comment (10pandiculation) [21:08:36] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: We think CirrusSearch is doing two page parses on a page update and don't like that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56968 +comment (10Chad H.) [21:09:43] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: We think CirrusSearch is doing two page parses on a page update and don't like that - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56968 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:10:58] "SidebarEx" ["obj"]=> NULL ["hooks"]=> NULL ["tags"]=> NULL ["mgs"]=> NULL ["mws"]=> NULL ["nss"]=> NULL ["enss"]=> NULL ["params"]=> array(0) { } } [1]=> string(33) "hSkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec" [21:11:15] I don't do a ton of php, but I don't understand this debug statement? [21:11:36] There's a Null Element in SidebarEX that has a property of "hooks"? [21:11:54] It's supposed to be of callable type [21:15:02] er nm [21:19:15] 03(mod) Languages are bundled unnecessarily in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40678 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:26:01] 03(mod) Warning on page deletion if page is linked to (Special:Whatlinkshere) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35485 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:26:04] 03(mod) Warning on page deletion if page is linked to (Special:Whatlinkshere) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35485 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:27:28] 03(NEW) Write Python script to create new wiki user(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58980 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [21:30:43] 03(NEW) VisualEditor:Copy paste is not working for Math elements and shows TypeError:Item is undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58981 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [21:31:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Copy paste is not working for Math elements and shows TypeError:Item is undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58981 (10ryasmeen) [21:32:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Copy paste is not working for Math elements and shows TypeError:Item is undefined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58981 (10ryasmeen) [21:35:51] 03(mod) Write Python script to create new wiki user(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58980 (10Jeff Hall) [21:38:56] 03(mod) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826 +comment (10Wellington Gomes da Silva Filho) [21:41:09] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:44:58] 03(mod) Extract embedded text from DjVu and PDF documents for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6421 +comment (10Nik Everett) [21:46:37] 03(mod) Special:MostLinkedCategories shows links to non-existent categories with 0 members - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58967 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:46:39] 03(mod) Special:MostLinkedCategories shows links to non-existent categories with 0 members - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58967 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:47:33] 03(mod) Disable TimedText namespace where not relevant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41826 +comment (10federicoleva) [21:48:16] 03(NEW) VisualEditor:Hiero is getting copied as Empty template while copying from Chrome to FF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58982 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [21:49:10] 03(mod) Clicking edit on fishbowl wikis results in "You are not allowed to edit this page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52058 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:49:13] 03(mod) Clicking edit on fishbowl wikis results in "You are not allowed to edit this page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52058 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:49:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Hiero is getting copied as Empty template while copying from Chrome to FF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58982 (10ryasmeen) [21:51:18] 03(NEW) Rethink the upload summaries for photo uploads from mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58983 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [21:51:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Hiero is getting copied as Empty template while copying from Chrome to FF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58982 (10ryasmeen) [21:51:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Hiero is getting copied as Empty template while copying from Chrome to FF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58982 (10ryasmeen) [21:51:44] 03(mod) Rethink the upload summaries for photo uploads from mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58983 +design; +comment (10Jon) [21:52:19] 03(mod) Upload summary should be in site language not in user language of the uploader or they should be shown in the user language of the reader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51474 +design; +comment (10Jon) [21:52:20] 03(mod) Rethink the upload summaries for photo uploads from mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58983 +comment (10Jon) [21:52:47] 03(mod) Upload from mobile web for specific page should mention page in upload summary (img_comment) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50265 +comment (10Jon) [21:52:48] 03(mod) Rethink the upload summaries for photo uploads from mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58983 +comment (10Jon) [21:53:50] 03(NEW) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [22:06:49] 03(mod) node 0.10 memory leak / lockup of client (possible test cases) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58952 (10ssastry) [22:06:50] 03(mod) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 normal->15enhancement; +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [22:11:04] 03(mod) Create additional browser test for Preferences "Editing" tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58901 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:12:34] 03(mod) PHPUnit tests break on mobile after I created an article called Foo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58420 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:13:18] 03(mod) Write Python script to create new wiki user(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58980 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [22:13:58] 03(mod) Include actions logged by AbuseFilter in the CheckUser results page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29583 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:15:36] 03(mod) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:15:37] 03(mod) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:16:21] 03(mod) PHPUnit tests break on mobile after I created an article called Foo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58420 (10Jon) [22:25:34] 03(mod) Blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58978 +comment (10bingle-admin) [22:25:47] 03(mod) Nearby this page / Geonotahack shouldn't rely on the templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58979 +comment (10bingle-admin) [22:26:06] 03(mod) Rethink the upload summaries for photo uploads from mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58983 +comment (10bingle-admin) [22:35:23] 03(mod) Move page deletion to a RevDelete mechanism; kill archive table (fire optional) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55398 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [22:39:12] 03(mod) Enable CAPTCHA for all edits of non-confirmed users on pt.wikipedia in order to reduce editing activity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49860 (10jbribeiro) [22:44:53] 03(mod) Clicking edit on fishbowl wikis results in "You are not allowed to edit this page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52058 (10Jon) [22:45:30] 03(mod) Clicking edit on fishbowl wikis results in "You are not allowed to edit this page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52058 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:47:16] 03(mod) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 +comment (10wellingtonalo) [22:47:24] 03(mod) FormEdit - JS Error in combination with skin vector and wikieditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55994 +comment (10korinek) [22:49:24] 03(mod) Timestamp is grammatically wrong [regression] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46541 +comment (10Marcin Cieślak) [22:58:32] 03(mod) Blue highlight when toggling open sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58978 +comment (10jrobson) [22:59:13] 03(mod) Enable TimedText in ptwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58984 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [23:05:15] Hola. I've noticed that there have been a number of bug reports about the markup and graphics of a MW page not showing (basically, text only). Related to this, I've seen reports of apache segfaulting, which is blamed on PHP segfaulting, which has been getting blamed on bad hardware, need to upgrade, etc. For me, this has occurred several times, and I've narrowed it down to one thing. Any version of libmagic (a library provided by 'f [23:05:15] ile') > 5.11 is the issue. When my Gentoo system upgraded file-5.11 to file-5.12, I had problems. I fixed it by going back to 5.11. Over the weekend, I did a system upgrade, and wound up with file-5.16. Same problem. Backing down to 5.11 fixes it. [23:06:22] k4jcw: probably should be reported to Gentoo packagers; probably you should install debug symbols and try to get a meaningful core file [23:11:12] I plan to do that, now that things are working again. I figured I'd toss it out here, because no doubt someone will show up asking, and the channel gurus may or may not be aware of the issue. [23:26:15] Nemo_bis: around? [23:28:32] yes [23:28:38] awesome [23:28:46] same for you :) [23:28:48] so I have logs, but they aren't complete [23:29:17] as in they contain every other day, or just some periods? [23:29:18] because I don't have znc set up for this channel (nor did I back then), so there are quite a few gaps [23:30:19] what's the longest complete period [23:30:38] not sure, lemme check [23:32:49] (this will take a while, my logs are broken up by day, so I need to write a script for it) [23:33:08] ugh [23:33:18] well you can as well just send me what you have and let me do that :) [23:41:05] what do you need logs for? [23:41:15] this channel? [23:43:29] * Nemo_bis to bed