[00:08:30] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Do something about queries that run scripts across a bajillion documents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60151 summary (10Andre Klapper) [00:17:22] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10aklapper) [00:18:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor:The link is appearing within [] bracket with lock icon after copy-paste from another VE in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58902 (10James Forrester) [00:20:58] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10matma.rex) [00:21:55] 03(mod) Overthrow Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60124 +comment (10Steven Walling) [00:25:31] 03(mod) Overthrow Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60124 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:28:43] 03(mod) Block::newLoad malformed db query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60035 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:31:19] 03(mod) Block::newLoad malformed db query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60035 (10Aaron Schulz) [00:41:55] good lord I wish skinning was easier :( [00:46:53] wmat: What are you having trouble with? [00:47:35] 03(mod) Flow: Error with Hide - posts are still visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60020 (10spage) [00:48:53] marktraceur: figuring out how to port a custom MW1.16 skin to MW1.22 [00:49:36] marktraceur: I've got a basic vector-based subskin working, but can't figure out how to inject custom html blocks into the pages [00:50:44] 03(mod) Create deprecateInterwiki.php to edit pages, converting interwiki links to external links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60135 +comment (10Gabriel Wicke) [01:09:38] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10sam) [01:12:30] 03(NEW) Flow: viewing a hidden/deleted topic you can't unhide or restore shows blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60155 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [01:13:02] 03(mod) Implement DB schema for query indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60127 major->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [01:15:35] 03(mod) Create deprecateInterwiki.php to edit pages, converting interwiki links to external links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60135 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [01:18:30] 03(mod) Implement DB schema for query indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60127 15enhancement->major (10Lydia Pintscher) [01:18:34] 03(mod) Flow: viewing a hidden/deleted topic you can't unhide or restore shows blank page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60155 +comment (10bingle-admin) [01:31:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Special Character option remains selected even after closing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59779 (10James Forrester) [01:46:33] 03(mod) White gradient border around the image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56136 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:50:18] 03(mod) File description font size is too large - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56445 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:55:52] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [02:05:09] 03(NEW) Doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; () [02:10:08] 03(mod) Overthrow Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60124 +comment (10MZMcBride) [02:30:25] 03(NEW) Does not remember previous cursor position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60157 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeEditor; () [02:38:18] 03(mod) CodeEditor does not remember previous cursor position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60157 summary (10Gryllida) [02:38:29] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 summary (10Gryllida) [02:38:40] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10Jackmcbarn) [02:43:58] 03(mod) Show file usage in MultimediaViewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60087 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:48:56] 03(mod) Integrate updated Agora style LESS button code into flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56641 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:39:03] 03(mod) Flow: a garbled post must not prevent loading its topic or Board - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59939 +comment (10gerritadmin) [03:45:26] Is there a way to delete user pages automatically when the user is blocked? [03:50:02] 03(mod) Provide a way to have a demo directory alongside the documentation on doc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60143 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:50:59] TheMadMechanic: not in core, but you could write an extension to do it [03:52:39] 03(NEW) Deploy TemplateData's editing tool to all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60158 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [03:53:00] 03(mod) TemplateData: Creating TemplateData blocks should be direction neutral - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50436 +comment (10James Forrester) [03:53:03] 03(mod) Deploy TemplateData's editing tool to all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60158 (10James Forrester) [04:00:38] 03(mod) Give an option to subst Template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59182 +comment (10James Forrester) [04:00:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support "substituting" templates in transclusion dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49904 +comment (10James Forrester) [04:08:47] 03(mod) Image inside a table incorrectly removes a tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50976 +comment (10jforrester) [04:11:04] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10gryllida) [04:11:30] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10gryllida) [04:16:25] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10Jackmcbarn) [04:21:45] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10b) [04:38:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "You edit may have been corrupted" Warning appears everytime after adding Cite Web template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59091 (10James Forrester) [04:40:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Toolbar doesn't float properly in standalone demo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59720 (10James Forrester) [04:42:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor messages not updated for 1.23wmf11 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60149 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [04:43:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add tooltips to drop-down menus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59719 summary (10James Forrester) [04:45:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Console shows "TypeError: jQuery_xxxxx is not a function" when cross-domain ajax request is aborted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59604 (10James Forrester) [04:48:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Namespace mixin properties - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60108 (10James Forrester) [04:49:51] AaronSchulz: Poke! [04:50:45] 03(mod) TranslateWiki.net is not tracking VisualEditor core messages, so they're not updateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60140 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [04:51:30] 03(mod) TranslateWiki.net is not tracking VisualEditor core messages, so they're not updateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60140 +comment (10gerritadmin) [04:51:33] 03(mod) TranslateWiki.net is not tracking VisualEditor core messages, so they're not updateable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60140 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [04:56:49] 03(mod) Temporarily scale back deployment of UniversalLanguageSelector (ULS) to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56433 (10MZMcBride) [05:44:44] 03(NEW) TMH doesn't support dirac encapsulated in ogg container - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60159 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [05:46:02] 03(NEW) Edits by Babel AutoCreate tagged as mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60160 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [05:52:02] 03(mod) Edits by Babel AutoCreate tagged as mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60160 +comment (10legoktm.wikipedia) [05:55:34] 03(mod) Edits by Babel AutoCreate tagged as mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60160 +comment (10bingle-admin) [05:59:03] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10yuvipanda) [06:12:59] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [06:14:04] 03(mod) Edits by Babel AutoCreate tagged as mobile edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60160 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [06:15:48] 03(NEW) Babel points to empty "Category:Babel - Users by language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60161 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [06:21:26] 03(mod) Babel points to empty "Category:Babel - Users by language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60161 +comment (10b) [06:26:38] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [06:36:54] 03(mod) Add permitted file upload types to MediaWiki API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60121 +comment (10b) [06:38:29] 03(mod) Non-canonical HTTPS URLs quietly redirect to HTTP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31369 +comment (10b) [06:42:46] 03(mod) Can't handle VP9. (Transcode error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53863 +ops; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [06:43:41] saper: ? [06:44:10] 03(mod) Can't handle VP9. (Transcode error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53863 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [06:54:20] 03(NEW) Replace existing text for Babel categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60162 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [06:57:54] 03(mod) Spaces before [[Category:]] link are ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17988 +comment (10bburette) [07:00:35] Hey there [07:00:48] Do you guys know how to load jquery.ui into an extension so the extension can use it? [07:03:37] 03(mod) mediawiki/extensions.git does not update some extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49846 +comment (10hashar) [07:04:01] !RL [07:04:01] ResourceLoader is the delivery system for JavaScript/CSS in MediaWiki. First released in MediaWiki 1.17. See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader , https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers [07:06:38] 03(mod) Can't handle VP9. (Transcode error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53863 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [07:07:00] i cant handle VP9 either. [07:07:30] Yeah, I've read that, but I don't seem to be able to load the jquery.ui. In my JS file, when I do something like $("#dialog").dialog(), it just tells me that dialog is not a valid method on the object [07:09:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/load.php [07:18:04] Gorroth: you can add a 'dependencies' => 'jquery.ui' in your module definition, or wrap your call in mw.loader.using('jquery.ui', function() { $('#dialog.').dialog(); }) [07:20:16] I created https://stackexchange.com/filters/116580/mediawiki , there's also a feed https://stackexchange.com/feeds/tagsets/116580/mediawiki?sort=active [07:20:20] 03(mod) javascript scrollToElement browser compatability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58880 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:20:22] 03(mod) javascript scrollToElement browser compatability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58880 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [07:37:40] legoktm: Yeah, I tried both options, but actually, you have to include the actual thing you want, like 'jquery.ui.dialog'. When I just add a 'jquery.ui' dep, it doesn't bring in all the modules. [07:38:08] I must have been mistaken, like you, and it doesn't resource load based on group name. [07:38:36] legoktm: also, I was doing it as 'dependencies' => array('jquery.ui')... maybe that caused the problem? [07:39:56] legoktm: I just tried without using the array, and the JS console still shows: "Uncaught Error: Unknown dependency: jquery.ui" [07:40:13] legoktm: So, I think you have to list individual modules and not the groups, unless you're aware of something I'm doing wrongly. [07:40:14] err, what version of mediawiki are you using? [07:40:29] can I see your module registration code? [07:40:33] Hmm, I'm not sure. Dreamhost installed it. Let me figure out how to check that. [07:40:58] Looks like 1.19 [07:42:05] Actually, where do I figure that out? I just saw RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 in my root dir. [07:44:31] Confirmed as 1.19.2 [07:44:40] I guess I'll manually have to upgrade to 1.22 [07:48:50] !version | Gorroth [07:48:51] Gorroth: To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. Please note that 1.15.0 > 1.5.0 (since nobody wants to go to 2.0). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for supported versions. [07:49:03] Yeah, I got it. Thanks. [08:02:49] 03(NEW) Outreach:Cherokee comes up as search suggestion on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60163 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [08:10:49] 03(mod) Outreach:Cherokee comes up as search suggestion on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60163 +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [08:32:06] hiyas.. I have just installed a new 1.22 mediawiki and although a lot works, a lot gives 500 server errors (the fastcgi process exits).. For example Special:SpecialPages doesn't work, but Special:Contributions does .. unfortunately no useful entries are in the error log.. is there any logging built into mediawiki that might explain more? [08:38:25] for what it's worth the very useless error log is at http://hastebin.com/raw/gihadiladi .. but it tells me nothing :( [08:46:35] ElGrotto: have you ran the update process / checked it's not one of your extensions causing trouble? [08:46:51] it's a fresh install... [08:47:17] ah, I glossed over that, sorry.. have a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug; that should point you in the right direction [08:55:45] hmm it appears php-cgi is segfaulting [08:56:27] obviously that's not a problem with mediawiki because bad interpreted code should produce useful errors not core dumps hehe [10:19:47] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [10:20:30] 03(NEW) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [10:24:42] 03(mod) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:24:44] 03(mod) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:25:29] 03(mod) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:26:04] 03(mod) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 +comment (10hashar) [10:34:19] 03(mod) Jenkins: set jobs to use web proxy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60164 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [10:42:11] 03(mod) Serialization of claim lists and snak lists for API and JSON need to support grouped and ungrouped forms. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55795 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:42:24] 03(mod) "IndexPager::buildQueryInfo" database query error when selecting namespace on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58157 +comment (10mark) [10:46:50] 03(mod) IRC RC feed is not working for any betacluster project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60013 +comment (10hashar) [11:08:50] in LocalSettings, can i disable the use of custom sigs? [11:11:49] yes, let me find the variable [11:12:29] 03(mod) Resize PhantomJS to 1280x1024 when the browser opens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60044 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:12:29] 03(mod) Resize PhantomJS to 1280x1024 when the browser opens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60044 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [11:13:10] paxed: $wgHiddenPrefs[] = 'nickname'; [11:13:26] oh [11:13:34] and $wgHiddenPrefs[] = 'fancysig' I believe [11:14:00] and if a user has already set their sig? [11:14:11] 03(mod) Resize PhantomJS to 1280x1024 when the browser opens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60044 (10Željko Filipin) [11:14:18] HiddenPrefs should override that [11:14:58] if not, you can do a DELETE FROM user_properties where up_property="nickname" [11:15:11] thanks [11:19:05] 03(mod) Remove "sleep" from tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46887 +comment (10zfilipin) [11:28:07] 03(mod) Huge reports that could clog Wikimetrics may happen accidentally, add a warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58754 +comment (10nuria) [11:44:03] 03(mod) Remove "sleep" from tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46887 +comment (1001tonythomas) [11:44:12] 03(mod) Remove "sleep" from tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46887 (10Tony Thomas) [11:44:24] 03(mod) Remove "sleep" from tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46887 (10Tony Thomas) [12:11:39] 03(mod) Wrong image path, hence background color for buttons missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 +comment (10fomafix) [12:16:59] 03(mod) Spaces before [[Category:]] link are ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17988 +comment (10aravikn) [12:17:35] 03(mod) Desire to test Extension:SubPageList somewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59762 +comment (10billinghurst) [12:20:55] 03(mod) Wikipedia App incorrectly retains cursor focus and on screen keyboad when returning from history on Nexus4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58133 +comment (10yuvipanda) [12:32:54] 03(mod) [DisableAccount] Convert to using FormSpecialPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59639 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:32:56] 03(mod) [DisableAccount] Convert to using FormSpecialPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59639 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [12:39:34] Hello! :) [12:39:35] I'm trying to rename Special:Version to Special:Software in mediawiki core. It has to be changed in the languages/messages too. [12:40:06] 'Special:Version' appears in all the files , is it possible to change all at once? Please help. [12:41:42] 03(mod) Desire to test Extension:SubPageList somewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59762 +comment (10billinghurst) [12:46:47] 03(NEW) labs instances ntpd fails to create socket / init interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60166 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [12:52:25] 03(NEW) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [12:59:57] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10dzahn) [13:08:03] Krinkle|detached: Are you here? [13:08:47] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 normal->major (10Daniel Zahn) [13:08:58] 03(mod) labs instances ntpd fails to create socket / init interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60166 normal->minor (10Daniel Zahn) [13:10:17] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10dzahn) [13:10:18] Hi, how do I add one caption from two images? [13:14:19] or move a gallery's caption under the gallery? [13:20:32] DrSlony: I don't know if you can have a gallery caption under the images - you might have to do it manually, by just putting a
under the gallery that contains that text. [13:26:52] I'm supposed to change Special:Version to Special:Software in mediawiki core. I renamed all 'Special:Version' to 'Special:Software' . [13:27:14] When I test, It does not work though. Would someone please help me? [13:28:35] 03(mod) Flow: SQL error if anon user makes first header edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59638 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:33:39] Yaron thank you [13:33:55] Is it possible to have text flow around on the right side of a ? [13:42:15] 03(mod) Portal: namespace for cs: Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4155 +comment (10Aravind K N) [13:50:21] 03(mod) puppetize beta fatal monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60046 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:50:24] 03(mod) puppetize beta fatal monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60046 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:51:39] 03(mod) Rename Special:Version to Special:Software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41555 +comment (10Aravind K N) [13:52:44] 03(mod) Wrong image path, hence background color for buttons missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:52:46] 03(mod) Wrong image path, hence background color for buttons missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:53:57] 03(mod) Wrong image path, hence background color for buttons missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 +comment (10fomafix) [13:58:59] DrSlony: sorry for the delay; again, that's possible, but with
s, CSS, etc. [14:06:02] 03(mod) puppetize beta fatal monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60046 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:06:26] csteipp are you here? I was wondering is the new universal login oauth stuff would allow global blocks to show in local block logs? [14:17:48] Could someone review this? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/101820/ . It's been over a month. [14:20:48] 03(mod) Run Selenium tests in parallel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55867 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [14:24:53] 03(mod) "Other languages" box in Translate extension should use an HTML list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55389 (10andnlnbn18) [14:26:11] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier) [14:26:45] hi [14:27:52] I am having a problem to creat a ns, there are not identifable characters in the name [14:27:55] how to debug? [14:28:28] 03(mod) Run Selenium tests in parallel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55867 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:34:10] well, I probably have used the wrong encoding when setting the new ns to lc.php [14:34:34] where such information is stored, maybe I should run any maintenance script? [14:40:58] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +code-update-regression (10Andre Klapper) [14:46:34] 03(mod) puppetize beta fatal monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60046 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:51:00] 03(mod) Resize PhantomJS to 1280x1024 when the browser opens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60044 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:51:49] 03(mod) Add permitted file upload types to MediaWiki API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60121 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [14:58:24] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:58:26] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [15:00:47] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:16:58] 03(mod) [ MariaDB] appearing on Special:Version on mediawikiwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60145 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [15:20:28] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:20:30] 03(mod) CodeEditor doesn't automatically type matching closing } when I type { - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60156 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [15:21:44] Hey, how can I download a wmf release? [15:22:20] hi stevenm! [15:22:31] stevenm: lemme check [15:23:21] 03(mod) *links rows get lost randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60147 (10Andre Klapper) [15:23:31] stevenm: so, for the frequent "wmf" branches that we deploy on the Wikimedia sites, there's no official release link, but you can download them from our git repository [15:23:47] (the official MediaWiki releases that get tarballed together are about every 6 months - you probably know that) [15:24:18] 03(mod) redirects to course pages act as soft redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48406 +comment (10ragesoss) [15:24:26] * DanielK_WMDE waves at sumanah [15:24:58] * DanielK_WMDE saunters off [15:25:00] stevenm: https://git.wikimedia.org/branches/mediawiki%2Fcore.git shows you our branches [15:25:03] hi DanielK_WMDE :) [15:25:35] cool - we want to deploy mediawiki but were desperate for visualeditor which requires wmf2 at least [15:25:54] man i wish it didn't %2F those /s [15:25:58] maybe we should have just used -s :) [15:26:27] hexmode: hey can you help stevenm? maybe you know this. I'm not sure how a person downloads a specific wmf[n] tagged branch ... [15:26:40] hello brion! [15:26:46] brion: code review! [15:26:46] hexmode: or perhaps you know things about how third-party MediaWiki admins can use VE :) [15:26:48] wheeee [15:27:01] brion: just one patch, i think. [15:27:25] brion: also found a reason for why sometimes there was stutter - we are using prompt, and prompt blocks!!! [15:27:31] will make the bridge fully asynchronous soon [15:28:09] hah [15:28:10] awesome [15:28:14] though we might still need prompt on 2.3 ;) [15:29:08] 03(mod) CodeEditor does not remember previous cursor position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60157 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [15:29:21] 03(mod) Babel points to empty "Category:Babel - Users by language" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60161 (10Andre Klapper) [15:29:48] 03(mod) Replace existing text for Babel categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60162 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [15:30:37] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10Marc A. Pelletier) [15:32:39] 03(mod) "Other languages" box in Translate extension should use an HTML list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55389 +comment (10aklapper) [15:33:10] 03(mod) "Outreach:Cherokee" comes up as search suggestion on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60163 normal->minor; summary (10Andre Klapper) [15:41:31] stevenm: hmm, hexmode isn't around right now, I guess. you might want to email mediawiki-l [15:41:32] !lists [15:41:32] mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [15:42:02] hey YuviPanda check this out http://software-carpentry.org/blog/2014/01/introducing-the-image-novice-module.html The image novice module provides a simple image manipulation interface for beginners that allows for easy loading, manipulating, and saving of image files. for use in workshops [15:43:48] sumanah, I'll try and follow this git method [15:44:54] stevenm: I guess the worst case scenario would be just cloning THE ENTIRE REPO and then only using the wmf10 branch or what have you [15:45:04] have you heard of sparse checkout? [15:45:53] sumanah, well i'm cloning it all now [15:45:59] sumanah, nah never done sparse checkout [15:46:18] stevenm: sometimes it's nice, saves time [15:46:23] it'd be nice if each wmf was a tar.gz - they are essentially alpha/beta releases of the LTS due May [15:46:29] I can't recall whether it's the same thing as, say, git clone --depth=1 [15:47:16] stevenm: Reedy and the people in San Francisco who haven't woken up yet know more about this - maybe there is some tarball somewhere I don't know about [15:49:00] sumanah, ok - well i think it cloned [15:49:20] wow, that's fast (in my opinion) [15:49:28] I sit at an ISP [15:50:42] ahhhh [15:50:59] 03(mod) Output links to the JS and CSS pages of each gadget listed at [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60142 (10Andre Klapper) [15:51:02] yay for fast internet :) [15:51:18] btw stevenm take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events some of which could be happening in your area this year [15:51:19] so will this... git checkout -b wmf/1.23wmf11 origin/wmf/1.23wmf11 give me some kind of seperate directory that just has the files for wmf11 ? [15:51:37] * sumanah stands back, as others are better git experts than her [15:53:40] see the example on mediawiki.org says... git checkout -b REL1_22 origin/REL1_22 [15:53:53] which it says it will "switch" to the current stable version [15:54:11] so i'm not sure exactly if that'll give me a directory with just the bit I need or not [15:54:36] stevenm: ok so that'll create a local branch called 'wmf/1.23wmf11' and check out the state of branch origin/wmf/1.23wmf11 ....... it won't give you a *separate* directory [15:54:44] but it will check out that version in that directory while you're using that branch [15:54:46] git .... is weird :D [15:55:20] so what am I best doing if I'm just after the complete fileset for 1.23wmf11 to host on a web server? [15:56:43] sumanah: hey! reading [15:57:01] sumanah: ah, nice! [15:57:02] * YuviPanda bookmarks [15:57:57] stevenm: when I've wanted that, I've done a git clone with depth 1, and then maybe even deleted the .git directory if I know I'm not going to update again [15:58:07] but then again I've never done this for a production sys, just my dev env [15:59:37] well i'd like to option to take it to LTS when LTS is ready [15:59:44] brion, any thoughts? [16:00:13] sumanah, what is the full command you use with depth=1 ? [16:01:40] stevenm: hmmi think what you want to do is a git clone , but with a different branch from default initially checked out? [16:01:43] lemme look that up [16:01:58] stevenm: I used git clone depth=10 because I was sort of afraid and thought "10 revisions would be fine" .... there's also a --single-branch option when I do man git clone [16:02:07] whoops, I mean git clone --depth=10 [16:02:19] maybe something like: [16:02:41] git clone --single-branch -b --depth=1 [16:02:53] personally i just do full checkouts and hope i have enough disk space ;) [16:03:32] brion, well all I've put in so far (and it's finished) is... git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git [16:04:07] so in the 'core' directory I've got the most up to date one - ever right... like people are still tweaking things and if I checked out again i'd get the updates? [16:04:31] but I just want a specific release :S and I'm afraid that it won't update to LTS later [16:04:43] if i can't get this working we'll end up using sharepoint, i know the bosses will [16:05:09] wikimedia don't believe in alpha/beta releases :S [16:05:17] stevenm: ok so 'core' is mediawiki core in general -- but you want to check out an individual release inside that now [16:05:36] so you can use something like: git checkout -b wmf/1.23wmf11 origin/wmf/1.23wmf11 [16:05:37] i think [16:05:50] brion, right but say I checkout wmf11 ... when wmf12 comes out - is checking that out *OVER* the top of wmf11 enough in terms of upgrade procedure? [16:05:51] by default if you don't pick a branch you just get the development master [16:06:20] stevenm: generally the procedure for such updates is 'upgrade the code by checking out the new version, then run maintenance/update.php in case there are any remaining DB tweaks to do' [16:06:58] 03(mod) can't configure existing instance, claims requested host does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60167 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [16:07:04] see when I put in "git checkout -b wmf/1.23wmf11 origin/wmf/1.23wmf11" it just says it's switched :S [16:08:12] stevenm: check version number in includes/DefaultSettings.php to confirm? [16:08:28] it says 11 [16:08:39] but then it would say that as that is the top version and the master will have that still [16:09:28] ok i'm really confused now [16:11:33] oh perfect! https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/mwSnapshots/#!/mediawiki-core/wmf/1.23wmf11 [16:11:56] stuff this git stuff :) [16:13:00] brion, sumanah: so now my only question is if *you* had to pick a mediawiki version from wmf2 and up... which would it be? i.e. are there any of these wmf's to avoid for whatever reason - or just go with wmf11? [16:13:31] sorry for the git confusion stevenm [16:13:55] sumanah, practically everything i read said git too [16:14:16] stevenm: feel free to update any docs on mediawiki.org to additionally point to Krinkle's snapshots [16:15:03] 03(NEW) Installer should encourage use of "Project" instead of "Same as the wiki name" option for project namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60168 normal; MediaWiki: Installer; () [16:15:20] stevenm: good question re which branch. I don't know. I might look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap if I were you [16:15:39] there are links there for each of the recent wmf branches [16:15:43] explaining what's in what [16:16:29] I guess I'd go with wmf10 because it's gone out or about to go out to all Wikipedias, which makes it fairly safe [16:17:44] i go with latest but i'm crazy and run development stuff :) [16:18:13] 03(mod) Global sysops and stewards cannot edit full-protected items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58026 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [16:18:19] 03(mod) Installer should encourage use of "Project" instead of "Same as the wiki name" option for project namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60168 +comment (10Chad H.) [16:18:47] <^d> brion: HEAD or go home :p [16:19:57] stevenm: yeah, you mentioned this is enterprise, I don't want you to have to explain breakage to your boss [16:20:17] stevenm: people may have talked about this on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [16:20:18] :) well thanks sumanah and brion for your help - i have to dash now [16:20:22] good luck! [16:20:23] goodl uck! [16:20:25] thanks for using MW [16:20:30] i'll reopen the chat about which wmf is best on monday and download one then [16:20:33] :) [16:20:40] c ya :) [16:23:43] 03(NEW) Global equivalent of autoconfirmed group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60169 enhancement; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [16:24:52] 03(mod) Global equivalent of autoconfirmed group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60169 (10PiRSquared17) [16:27:43] 03(mod) Installer should encourage use of "Project" instead of "Same as the wiki name" option for project namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60168 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [16:30:13] 03(NEW) MobileFrontend Installed & Only shows a Blank Page on Mobile Devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60170 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; () [16:44:31] 03(NEW) Table of contents doesn't reinitialise after an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend (Beta); () [16:45:15] 03(mod) Add font size adjustment feature to the mobile front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48946 +comment (10jrobson) [16:45:31] 03(mod) MobileFrontend Installed & Only shows a Blank Page on Mobile Devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60170 +comment (10bingle-admin) [16:45:44] 03(mod) Table of contents doesn't reinitialise after an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 +comment (10bingle-admin) [16:50:58] Hello [16:51:04] I have just installed mediawiki [16:51:11] but don't see the way to add new users [16:53:04] 03(mod) Set bugzilla up to allow bugs to be created/changed via email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22629 +comment (10dandreescu) [16:53:28] Hi legoktm! [16:53:57] 03(mod) Installer should encourage use of "Project" instead of "Same as the wiki name" option for project namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60168 +comment (10innocentkiller) [16:55:53] 03(mod) Huge reports that could clog Wikimetrics may happen accidentally, add a warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58754 +comment (10dandreescu) [16:59:35] Hmm http://news.softpedia.com/news/OpenBSD-Foundation-Might-Shutdown-Due-to-Lack-of-Funding-417601.shtml [16:59:40] ciao CristianCantoro [16:59:53] ciao Nemo_bis [17:03:07] 03(mod) Handle interwiki links pointing to the current wiki as plain wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45209 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:03:10] 03(mod) Handle interwiki links pointing to the current wiki as plain wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45209 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:05:13] Nemo_bis: bad news :-/ [17:08:36] 03(mod) Handle interwiki links pointing to the current wiki as plain wiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45209 +comment (10Marc Ordinas i Llopis) [17:12:54] 03(mod) Installer should encourage use of "Project" instead of "Same as the wiki name" option for project namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60168 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [17:15:01] Hi guys. I've a SUL account, and I realized that the changes I made to my preferences aren't made globally. I need to set them on each sites. Is this normal? [17:15:26] wget: sadly, yes, it is [17:54:23] well 5.5.7 was released 7 days after mediawiki 1.22.0 so if it is a change to php that's broke it, it's not mediawiki's fault at least lol :) [17:54:28] your bot is back hehe [17:56:03] https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=66460 "PHP 5.5.7 and 5.5.8 horrible unstable" lol [17:56:04] brm [17:56:19] ElGrotto: I'd suggest downgrading PHP for now :S [17:56:48] !class HtmlFormatter [17:56:48] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classHtmlFormatter.html [17:56:50] yeah hehe, I'll try this :) [17:57:51] thanks for input, will let you know if it works :) [18:08:13] Lovin' me some mediawiki. [18:08:20] It basically does everything for me. :-) [18:08:21] !class Services_JSON [18:08:21] See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classServices_JSON.html [18:08:40] And writing extensions for this has been a lot easier than writing a django app. [18:14:04] Gorroth: yay! [18:14:45] Gorroth: usually people come in here to complain that things don't work/mediawiki is hard/mediawiki sucks. Nice to see the opposite :) [18:30:26] Well, after a lot of experience with hard things, I don't think MW is hard. [18:30:44] Probably for people less experienced it can be difficult. [18:33:01] ++Gorroth [18:35:35] Vulpix: MatmaRex: many thanks for your help; downgrading to debian's php 5.4.4 has fixed the seg fault problems and (fingers crossed) everything is working fine now [18:38:24] ElGrotto: glad to know! [18:38:27] !next [18:38:27] Another satisfied customer. NEXT! [19:39:52] Hello all, could anyone direct me to the correct function in the parser class that'll just take a big chunk of wiki code and give me some sweet, sweet html? [19:40:42] Ulfr_: The parse method of the parser class (assuming you are not currently parsing something, if you are recursiveTagParse is your friend) [19:41:12] bawolff: Awesome. That's what I thought, but I saw the title argument and got scared. [19:41:15] Thanks! [19:41:48] Ulfr_: The parse method returns a ParserOutput object, which has a getText method, which is what you're ultimately after [19:42:26] Whoa. Two steps?! What is this? [19:42:26] Heh. Thanks [19:42:43] Ulfr_: yeah, you need to specify a title so it can replace {{PAGENAME}}. (Its only used for that, the title doesn't actually have to be a real page that actually exists) [19:43:28] bawolff: Wait, really? Every other time I see Title in MW PHP it has to be valid or bad things happen. Cool! [19:43:32] Ulfr_: There's also the various content classes (WikiTextContent) which generally is the thing that call's the parser, you can feed wikitext into that, and then use it to get html out if you want [19:43:53] bawolff: Eh. Might as well go to the source [19:44:10] Ulfr_: Most of the time you want your titles to be real ones, depends on the method in question [19:45:32] Yeah, I get that, but like, you can't just feed it a string, you gotta instantiate a class, call a member method, sacrifice a chicken during the full moon, etc. etc. [19:46:12] I should say the title you feed the parser has to be something technically valid, e.g. no invalid utf-8 code sequences allowed, or bad things might happen (But it can be certain things that don't ever end up in the db, like a Title representing a special page) [19:47:13] bawolff: well, this is parsing stuff that has zero user interaction in generating, not too terribly concerned about that [19:47:15] new ChikenSacraficeRitual(); [19:47:26] You jest, but I've had to do some things [19:48:10] The jQuery API gods are very greedy. [19:48:34] As an example, when the Api has to do things like that (parsing not real pages), it just feeds a title named "Api" into the parser [19:49:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text={{FULLPAGENAME}} outputs Api [19:51:56] bawolff: Well I'm trying to optimize a bunch of calls I have to make in sequence, so I'm doing it all server side (I think) [19:53:23] Yup. I feel lied to. Not only does a Parser object want a Title Object, it wants a user object AND a language object. [19:55:03] You can use new ParserOptions(); [19:55:15] to just get a generic one (kind of like what an anon would see) [19:55:28] bawolff: :o [19:55:40] I assume you referring to ParserOptions [19:55:47] bawolff: correct. [19:58:18] * Ulfr_ apologizes for any loopiness. Coding in a room that's humid, smelly, and 85 degrees doesn't leave much room for sanity. [19:58:35] To be technically accurate, what anons get (e.g. "canonical" parser options - see ContentHandler::makeParserOptions) is ParserOptions::newFromUserAndLang( new User, $wgContLang );$options->enableLimitReport( $wgEnableParserLimitReporting );$options->setTidy( true ); [19:59:04] new User just gives you a user object representing an anon user [19:59:26] Could be worse, imagine if you were programming in the snow [20:00:21] addshore: assuming your concerns were met can you +1 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/90584/ [20:00:52] any advice for who to add to get it merged? hashar probably removed himself... [20:03:53] bawolff: I'm from New England. It's January. I'd much prefer snow [20:04:41] I grew up in northern Canada, it turned me off of snow and cold [20:05:05] bawolff: I'm not really a fan either, but a certain amount of acclimation occurs, which leaves one poorly equipped to deal with summer heat in business casual [20:05:34] although I'll admit that things being too warm can be much worse (You can always put on a coat, sometimes you can't do the reverse) [20:05:54] bawolff: Yuuuuup. [20:08:45] bawolff: So, apparently I'm calling startParse and it's unhappy. can I swiftpaste you the call? [20:08:47] AaronSchulz: Any idea what's wrong with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%A4_%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%88_%E0%AE%8E%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A8%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D [20:08:48] %E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%88_%E0%AE%8E%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF.ogv ( is not a valid storage path. ) [20:09:00] stupid i18n-ized urls... [20:09:38] AaronSchulz: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:அறியாத ஆசை என்னும் தமிழ்ப் பாடலின் நிகழ்பட வடிவினை எடுக்கும் காட்சி.ogv [20:09:43] bawolff: That's not a language. That's a seizure. [20:10:12] * Ulfr_ doesn't wish to offend anyone who reads and writes in the above language, but come on. [20:10:38] non-ascii text does make things difficult [20:10:50] what is the problem? [20:11:18] AaronSchulz: transcode fails with the error: "mwstore://local-swift-eqiad/local-transcoded/5/50/அறியாத_ஆசை_என்னும்_தமிழ்ப்_பாடலின்_நிகழ்பட_வடிவினை_எடுக்கும்_காட்சி.ogv/அறியாத_ஆசை_என்னும்_தமிழ்ப்_பாடலின்_நிகழ�� [20:11:20] �பட_வடிவினை_எடுக்கும்_காட்சி.ogv.360p.webm" is not a valid storage path. [20:11:57] But locally it works for me (locally I'm not using swift though), I assume we have support for unicode file names, as if we didn't a lot of files would be broken [20:12:10] * AaronSchulz shrugs [20:12:14] blame TMH ;) [20:12:25] always ;) [20:12:38] does it repeat the full name twice? [20:12:54] notice that thumbnails do not do that [20:12:57] It repeats the same error twice [20:13:13] when you urlencode it (as swift stores in sqlite) it gets 3x bigger and is larger that 1024 [20:13:36] it is just too long [20:13:54] * Ulfr_ does a victory lap. [20:14:06] reminds me, I wanted to get all thumbs using the -thumbnail. format [20:14:06] ok, that's sad but makes sense [20:14:10] * AaronSchulz never got around to that [20:14:30] it's still based on a size threshold...I didn't want to cause too much traffic all at once [20:15:24] This file apparently meets the size threshold - the still thumbs use -thumbnail [20:15:31] bawolff: a fix would be to made TMH uses "transcode." for the basename [20:15:37] So I guess TMH just doesn't respect the short thumbnail thing [20:15:49] *to make [20:15:52] Sounds like TMH needs to straighten up and fly right. [20:16:05] pfft, yep [20:16:09] it's overly long and repetitive from a UX perspective anyway [20:17:15] Totally off topic, I wonder what that video is supposed to be demonstrating. It appears to be someone skipping in the woods... [20:17:38] Sounds like you chaps might know what sort of guidelines there are for how big API returns can be [20:17:43] ...why is gerrit being a piece of junk again? [20:17:54] ashley: It's Friday? [20:18:02] guess so [20:18:15] I had my patchset reviewed, I made the changes requested... [20:18:24] first I couldn't even submit the changes without touching the commit message [20:18:27] and then [20:18:39] it submits patchset #1 as patchset #2, only updating the commit message [20:19:02] ashley: Friday syndrome has been upgraded to conspiracy. [20:19:21] There's a lot of little edge cases that are wrong in timed media handler, like how the error dialog has the title repeated 3 times [20:19:30] it's all hopeless [20:19:47] such optimism [20:20:59] "remote: (W) 8f8b2cd: no files changed, message updated←[K" -- dear gerrit, you and I both know that's bullshit [20:21:48] ashley: If it'd make you feel better you can help stress test my API by flinging gratuitously large amounts of data back and forth to see if/when it breaks [20:22:49] Ulfr_: breaking things? for science, we must! [20:23:31] ashley: Apparently there's no guidelines on how big these transmissions can be. Thus, science is called for, and I totally didn't use to do this for fun. [20:25:08] ashley: Gimmie like 10 minutes to whip up an actual test [20:25:25] lol [20:29:09] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10tylerromeo) [20:31:35] 03(mod) Entire screen greyed out after hiding a post that's not at the top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57220 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:33:29] Okay, there's only one rule. You've gotta report how big your number was. [20:33:32] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:33:34] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:34:17] there's an argument num, and it spits back num * 1kish bytes back at you [20:35:44] http://ec2-184-73-130-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com/api.php?action=load&num=1 [20:36:06] ashley: Roll the dice. [20:36:21] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:39:20] bawolff: Any interest? [20:39:51] I got a 0 [20:39:58] Ulfr_: so the idea is to increase the num parameter until it explodes? [20:40:00] a really big 0 [20:40:10] Vulpix: Yup. [20:40:14] bawolff: Lots of them, actually. [20:40:52] I couldn't think of a better char to put in a giant API bomb [20:41:19] 03(mod) Auto-wrap posted content blocks in source language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60176 +comment (10Liangent) [20:42:11] James_F: ping. [20:42:11] "(18:25:24) YuviPanda: wget: hmm, I'm unsure. James_F|Away is probably the person to ping on that" [20:42:11] My question was: [20:42:11] "(18:25:08) wget: YuviPanda: Regarding my SUL account rename (see here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/SUL_requests#wget) I assume https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/William.gathoye will be completely merged into https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Wget , and I won't have 2 dedicated accounts in the future?" [20:42:34] Ulfr_: I'm going to guess 8388608 [20:42:36] bytes [20:42:47] See $wgAPIMaxResultSize [20:43:08] bawolff: ... You completely missed the point of the excercise [20:43:53] bawolff: I see your $wg variables and raise you a newly minted confg var that sets $wgAPIMaxResultSize to -1 [20:44:04] Ah [20:44:34] bawolff: Also totally answered my question, but c'mon. [20:44:55] YuviPanda: I'm the person to ping about SUL? [20:45:01] 03(mod) wbmergeitems isn't merging claims properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58850 +comment (10Bene*) [20:45:14] James_F: I... thought so? You were the one talking about the Unification, no? [20:45:25] James_F: did I confuse you with another James again? [20:45:44] Ulfr_: I guess the next thing it would run out of would be memory [20:45:58] YuviPanda: I was, but that was a year ago. Now it's Dan Garry. I don't know how things are going now, sorry. :-( [20:46:00] 03(mod) mediawiki/extensions.git does not update some extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49846 +comment (10hashar) [20:46:00] bawolff: Nope. Browser crashes after 9001kb [20:46:05] or in that vicinity [20:46:05] or execution time, it seems like it generates the 0's rather slowly [20:46:08] James_F: ah, okay [20:46:20] wget: in that case, you need to ping DGarry [20:46:23] wget: he's not online now [20:46:24] Ulfr_: I see your browser, and raise you a /dev/null [20:46:30] James_F: wah, that was a year ago? :O [20:46:37] James_F: anyway, thanks for pointing me in the right direction [20:46:43] 03(mod) Auto-wrap posted content blocks in source language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60176 +comment (10liangent) [20:46:44] http://ec2-184-73-130-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com/api.php?action=load&num=10000000000000000 gets me a 500 [20:47:20] bawolff: You are correct. [20:47:35] (Sorry to be useless, wget.) [20:47:45] 03(mod) Redirects don't need to say "Wikidata Item ID: None" on ?action=info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57044 +comment (10Bene*) [20:48:14] Thanks YuviPanda, we are moving forwards in that puzzle :D [20:48:19] :) [20:48:20] No problem James_F ;-) [20:48:21] indeed [20:48:27] wget: you can maybe leave him a talk page message [20:48:51] Good idea, indeed. [20:48:52] bawolff: Welp, I now know it's rapidity of hits and not volume of data that bogs my servers down [20:48:55] Thanks :) [20:49:42] There's probably something that could be done to optimize how you're outputting data [20:49:59] bawolff: Yeah, not using a nested for loop for generating responses [20:51:06] bawolff: There is something wrong with my current config, but it's going to be obnoxious to troubleshoot, because I already did it once but never wrote down what I did [20:53:30] 9999 served for me, 99999 returned 500 [20:53:59] Vulpix: Huh. Well that narrows it down :) [20:54:13] 15000 fails also [20:54:40] Vulpix: You said 999 runs? [20:54:42] 9999* [20:54:53] no, num=9999 [20:55:14] bawolff: Your sources were wrong. I removed that config var and 9999 > 8192 [20:55:17] num=12000 gave me ERROR 504: Gateway Time-out. [20:55:37] Vulpix: Yup. I see the giant spikes in Apache load from you poking the bear [20:55:44] heh [20:56:12] I just can't seem to break it :[ [20:56:33] Ulfr_: 12000 probably succeeded (not hitting any limit), but hit a 60 seconds timeout [20:56:40] Ulfr_: You're sure its not just silently truncating? [20:57:12] bawolff: If it is I'd be impressed. I'll check the next time a hit goes through [20:57:44] bawolff: AUGH [20:57:49] You were right. [20:58:01] downloading 11000 in chunks :P [20:59:31] Ulfr_: num=11000 succeeded, but has the same size as 9999. It's being truncated [20:59:38] <result xml:space="preserve">This result was truncated because it would otherwise be larger than the limit of 8388608 bytes& [20:59:39] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10brion) [20:59:40] Vulpix: :( [21:00:27] it's truncating, but not silently :P [21:00:45] 03(mod) puppetize beta fatal monitor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60046 normal->minor (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:00:52] 03(mod) Jenkins: Add a lint job for JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58279 (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:01:20] Vulpix: Yeah, but if someone generates 8 megs of HTML in a single exam in my little program, they can enjoy the error [21:01:37] 03(NEW) VisualEditor:No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [21:02:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor:No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 (10ryasmeen) [21:02:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor:No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 (10ryasmeen) [21:03:24] 03(mod) Switch zuul to be gearman based (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50664 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:06:58] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10tylerromeo) [21:12:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Make it more obvious when the user is doing something foolish with links (e.g. extending the wrong one) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59229 +comment (10inez) [21:18:39] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10gwicke) [21:22:58] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10ori) [21:26:40] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10rlane32) [21:27:16] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:35:48] Thanks again for your help guys [21:35:58] Vulpix, bawolff, ashley ^ [21:36:06] yw :) [21:36:14] glad to help [21:37:28] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10brion) [21:38:40] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Make sure all sorts of apostrophies count as word breaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58701 +comment (10TMg) [21:39:14] stupid PHP.... {{#ifeq: 01 | 1 | true | false }} gives true [21:40:04] Vulpix, surround with quotes [21:41:16] and also, {{#ifeq: 10 | 0x0a | true | false }} gives true [21:41:23] this is freaking stupid [21:41:59] yeah, quotes did the trick! [21:42:37] 03(mod) Flow: a garbled post must not prevent loading its topic or Board - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59939 +comment (10Erik Bernhardson) [21:43:29] I would expect {{#ifeq: 1 | true | true | false }} to return true also, but it doesn't [21:45:41] 03(mod) Change the bot code so that it's possible to create #*.wmflabs channels too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37404 +comment (10se4598) [21:48:16] 03(mod) IRC RC feed is not working for any betacluster project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60013 +comment (10se4598) [21:48:44] 03(NEW) Unable to view watchlist @ mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60181 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [21:49:44] 03(mod) Global equivalent of autoconfirmed group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60169 (10MF-Warburg) [21:49:46] 03(mod) Steward, global sysop and SWMT tasks bugs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41492 (10MF-Warburg) [21:53:03] 03(mod) Unable to view watchlist @ mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60181 +comment (10MrBlueSky) [21:55:15] 03(mod) Flow: errors with moderating - cancel an action then re-attempt will fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58911 (10Andrew Garrett) [21:59:22] 03(mod) Unable to view watchlist @ mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60181 +comment (10mrbluesky) [22:10:27] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10gwicke) [22:11:37] 03(NEW) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [22:12:22] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 normal->15enhancement (10James Forrester) [22:14:08] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 +comment (10Al-Scandar Solstag) [22:15:56] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:15:59] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:16:18] 03(mod) CodeEditor does not remember previous cursor position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60157 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [22:18:41] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 +comment (10jforrester) [22:19:19] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Standalone demo toolbar breaks sometimes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60183 normal; VisualEditor: Initialisation; () [22:21:45] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 +comment (10solstag) [22:45:47] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:45:47] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:45:48] 03(mod) Enable VisualEditor on ptwikiversity and ptwikibooks for testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60182 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:45:49] 03(mod) Flow: SQL error if anon user makes first header edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59638 +comment (10Erik Bernhardson) [22:45:49] 03(mod) Index (for search) sighted revisions only on de-wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17475 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:47:31] 03(mod) [UI] Front-end performance: Improve loading time of items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54098 +comment (10benestar.wikimedia) [22:48:06] 03(mod) Entire screen greyed out after hiding a post that's not at the top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57220 +comment (10Erik Bernhardson) [22:50:35] 03(mod) Wrong image path, hence background color for buttons missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:52:12] 03(mod) No lead section when page-loaded event occurs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 summary; +comment (10Jon) [22:52:32] 03(mod) No lead section when page-loaded event occurs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:52:35] 03(mod) No lead section when page-loaded event occurs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:52:58] 03(mod) CSSMin url() value remapping not working in certain obscure cases (braces in comments inside declarations: background: /*{test}*/ url(image.png) ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 summary (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:53:28] 03(mod) CSSMin url() value remapping not working in certain obscure cases (braces in comments inside declarations: background: /*{test}*/ url(image.png) ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60077 +code-update-regression (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [22:56:48] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gtisza) [22:59:01] 03(mod) allow list=deletedrevs&drprop=content with "deletedtext" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28261 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:59:02] 03(mod) Add better revision delete handling for list=recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27748 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:59:02] 03(mod) Add better revision delete handling for list=deletedrevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27747 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:59:03] 03(mod) Add better revision delete handling for list=filearchive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34926 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:59:04] 03(mod) API for retrieving Revision Deleted information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48966 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:01:00] 03(mod) IRC RC feed is not working for any betacluster project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60013 +comment (10wikipedia) [23:02:23] 03(mod) IRC RC feed is not working for any betacluster project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60013 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:02:26] 03(mod) IRC RC feed is not working for any betacluster project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60013 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:02:29] 03(mod) Beta labs leaking into irc.wikimedia.org for #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56758 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:02:31] 03(mod) Beta labs leaking into irc.wikimedia.org for #wikidata.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56758 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:05:48] 03(NEW) Analytics: Can we start quoting our logging fields? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60184 normal; Analytics: General/Unknown; () [23:11:51] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10gwicke) [23:20:34] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gtisza) [23:20:45] hi, who should I contact / what should I do about a Gerrit login issue? Today when I try to log in to Gerrit I get a "Invalid username or password" message. Everything was working fine yesterday. [23:21:23] ^demon|away: ^ ? [23:21:47] 03(NEW) Flow: Log actions in History diffs need context - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60185 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [23:21:51] <^demon|away> Bleh, I've been trying to get this fixed. [23:21:59] <^demon|away> Today's cross-dc downtime didn't help. [23:22:05] <^demon|away> LDAP replication is broken. [23:22:09] <^demon|away> So gerrit gets sad. [23:22:14] 03(mod) support SPDY protocol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33890 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [23:22:14] ouch :( [23:22:18] <^demon|away> (it's an ops thing) [23:22:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Standalone demo toolbar breaks sometimes in Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60183 summary (10James Forrester) [23:22:34] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:24:02] ^demon|away: always blaming the ops >.> [23:24:41] <^demon|away> Nobody's fault. [23:24:43] <^demon|away> But ops to fix. [23:24:44] <^demon|away> :) [23:25:07] Is it a temporary issue, and I'll be able to log in later -- or do I need to do something? [23:26:39] you don't need to do anything [23:27:28] 03(mod) Flow: Log actions in History diffs need context - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60185 +comment (10bingle-admin) [23:27:48] hi. is postgresql recommended for fresh setups? i'm having issues... [23:30:16] improper, generally MySQL (and forks) are recommended for being the best supported, but postgresql should work... [23:30:28] what are the issues? [23:31:53] ToolServer Wiki use to run on postgresql, RIP Toolserver [23:32:02] 03(mod) Near this page (MobileFrontend Beta): breaking “palettes” on frwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59912 +comment (10Jon) [23:32:37] Krenair: tsearch2 is mentioned as a requirement, which seems stale [23:32:56] 03(mod) Special:UserLogin calls Status::newFatal incorrectly on account creation, generates odd API error codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60008 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:32:57] also i get an error at the end of config: Could not insert main page: [...] ERROR: relation "externallinks_el_id_seq" does not exist [23:35:10] 03(mod) Implement a way for admins to blacklist Flickr users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42307 +comment (10gtisza) [23:35:32] improper, is this the latest version of MediaWiki? [23:35:55] Krenair: yes [23:36:17] the installer did not create any schema/tables at all, it seems, although it says otherwise [23:36:34] pgsql is 9.3 [23:36:45] (1.22, some distributions may be trying to get you to use older versions) [23:37:33] yes, 1.22.1, downloaded the source archive [23:37:34] Does anyone know why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/602 wouldn't be tagging and logging edits that match its conditions? Is AbuseFilter borked? [23:39:04] agk-wiki: I believe it has debugging tools built in. [23:39:10] You can test against specific edits, as I recall. [23:39:43] Gloria: When I use the debugging tools, the conditions used in the filter pick up the edits they need to pick up. The problem is that the actual filter does not. [23:39:52] It's as though it's disabled, but it isn't. It just isn't working. [23:40:00] * Gloria peeks. [23:40:17] Ty :) [23:40:31] Example edit that isn't being tagged? [23:40:48] Oh hey MZ. OMG your nicks get stranger every year :-) [23:40:53] 03(mod) Add font size adjustment feature to the mobile front end - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48946 +comment (10theopolismewiki) [23:40:54] Two secs [23:41:21] Recent edits at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Example&action=history are the example edits [23:43:26] Well, first, let's use test.wikipedia.org. ;-) I'll make you an admin there. [23:43:57] agk-wiki: I see you were previously an admin there... any objection to being one again? [23:44:04] Gloria: SUL active there? [23:44:11] Yes. [23:44:19] Ah, yes. That's fine - thanks [23:45:06] Got the rights [23:45:24] Should I create a copy of the filter? [23:46:33] I just did. [23:46:45] Super - let me peek [23:46:46] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/134 [23:46:52] I got rid of the regex. [23:46:57] And tried for a simpler string comparison. [23:47:02] Let's see if that works... [23:47:32] As an aside, does getting rid of the regex make the filter less expensive? I got the feeling I was setting it up to be quite a drain on the system... [23:47:39] https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MZMcBride&action=history [23:47:39] Krenair: the schema was created, but that's all i can see via psql [23:47:42] Seems to have. [23:47:50] Seems to have worked, that is. [23:48:05] 03(mod) Selser failure on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60120 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:48:06] 03(mod) Selser failure on master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60120 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:48:18] agk-wiki: Regex is generally pretty fast unless you're doing really nasty things. On the other hand, unless it's completely necessary, string comparison is preferred. [23:48:44] Hmm. I'll copy your conditions over to enwiki and see if that fixes my problem... [23:48:55] Regex is great for pattern matching, but if you simply want to test for "{{Z33}}", it's clea[nr]er to do it without regex. [23:49:03] Because you don't have to escape { and }, for example. [23:49:13] I wouldn't be shocked if you actually needed \\{. [23:49:18] But maybe not. [23:49:48] One day AbuseFilter will use Lua. [23:50:40] Hrmmm. [23:50:43] No tag still. [23:51:05] No :-( [23:51:23] Let me try just adding {{Z33}} without using the surrounding template [23:51:53] Gloria: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AExample&diff=591195056&oldid=591194905 [23:52:12] Typing {{Z33}} works. Typing {{subst:ds/alert}}, which contains {{Z33}}, does not. [23:52:29] Oh. [23:52:34] Does AbuseFilter have trouble parsing templates being substituted? [23:52:35] Are you substituting a template? [23:52:42] Yeah! [23:52:42] Yeah, you probably want new_wikitext or something. [23:52:51] Ahh [23:53:03] Though you'd think added_lines would work... [23:53:27] 03(mod) No lead section when page-loaded event occurs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60171 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:53:33] Because the substituted text does not exist until after AbuseFilter runs its checks? ie it is still transcluded when ABF runs? [23:53:45] Yeah, probably something like that. [23:53:50] Precedence and order of operations and shit. [23:54:27] I'll try new_wikitext. I'm guessing it has the same syntax as added_lines [23:54:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/examine/631583951 [23:54:59] added_lines should work, according to that. [23:56:01] Could be the conditions are checked, then the transclusion is performed, and then the examine report is generated. [23:56:14] Success! [23:56:21] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AExample&diff=591195473&oldid=591195056 [23:56:29] Nice. [23:56:37] That may be worth a bug... [23:56:58] That seems like a lot of work. I despise Bugzilla [23:57:04] You're the only one. ;-) [23:57:13] Sarc? [23:57:25] Yes. [23:57:33] Seriously. It's so difficult to explain a bug without writing fourteen paragraphs of drivel [23:57:36] Everyone hates every bug tracker. [23:57:48] I can't even get Bugzilla to load. [23:57:56] Maybe Tampa... [23:58:59] I will drop a barnstar by your page. Buy yourself something nice with it, Gloria. [23:59:24] :D [23:59:40] I'm just glad I could help. I know very little about AbuseFilter.