[00:01:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Parsoid: Page redirect is not working on betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61403 normal; Parsoid: General; ()
[00:05:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Elasticsearch ganglia monitor broken for Logstash due to lack of stats groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61384  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:08:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Images: {{largethumb}} template on nlwiki getting substituted on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54803  +comment (10Gabriel Wicke)
[00:14:56] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:Upload duplicate detection broken for TMH file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61404 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; ()
[00:19:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Split VE into modules, and for Mobile only load the needed ones to reduce loading unnecessary JS & CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61075  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:19:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Split VE into modules, and for Mobile only load the needed ones to reduce loading unnecessary JS & CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61075  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[00:20:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Split VE into modules, and for Mobile only load the needed ones to reduce loading unnecessary JS & CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61075  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:20:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Elasticsearch ganglia monitor broken for Logstash due to lack of stats groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61384  (10Bryan Davis)
[00:23:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Crasher in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61298  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:23:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Crasher in production - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61298  (10Arlo Breault)
[00:32:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Uploaded a .webm file with an ampersand in the name, can't get captions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61336  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[00:32:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Searching with virtual namespace prefix returns strange result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27760  +comment (10Chad H.)
[00:32:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Uploaded a .webm file with an ampersand in the name, can't get captions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61336  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[00:38:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) support multiple occurrences of {{PLURAL}} within a single message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54544  +comment (10ricordisamoa)
[00:40:45] <Kolega2357>	 How to change user langunage on all wmf project via bot?
[00:50:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Moving templates down is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61402  (10James Forrester)
[00:56:59] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Providing more information in a search query (such as word fragments) results in less accurate results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61405 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; ()
[01:00:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Providing more information in a search query (such as word fragments) results in less accurate results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61405  (10Dan Garry)
[01:02:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Bugzilla 4.4 regression] Fix line height + line wrapping for Saved Searches + Saved Reports in sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61288  +comment (10dgarry)
[01:02:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Suppression of Cite error in templates still paints a phantom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51236  +comment (10James Forrester)
[01:02:59] <bawolff>	 Kolega2357: See the options api module
[01:03:27] <Kolega2357>	 bawolff How to see options in api module
[01:04:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms should be re-drawn when the object they're meant to be covering changes position of the page reflows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61390  normal->major; summary (10James Forrester)
[01:04:17] <bawolff>	 Kolega2357: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=options
[01:04:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms should be re-drawn when the object they're meant to be covering changes position of the page reflows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61390  (10James Forrester)
[01:04:36] <bawolff>	 That assumes you already have the how to write a bot part down
[01:05:48] <Kolega2357>	 bawolff yes
[01:06:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ref group does not get updated when the group name is changed from References List dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61396  (10James Forrester)
[01:10:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) page footer doesn't show MW version info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61406 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[01:10:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add tounoki.org to wgCopyUploadsDomains for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61378  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[01:10:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add tounoki.org to wgCopyUploadsDomains for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61378  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[01:11:40] <Reedy>	 traditional where? :/
[01:12:47] <Kolega2357>	 bawolff what is the script to use in python for example, to change user language on all wmf project?
[01:13:13] <bawolff>	 beats me, I don't even know if one exists
[01:13:28] <bawolff>	 #pywikipediabot might have the answer
[01:14:12] <bawolff>	 Reedy: Yeah, I've never really heard of sites doing that
[01:14:16] <bawolff>	 although bugzilla does
[01:14:54] <Reedy>	 Then we'll have people complaining about the mw version on the rendered squid cached pages not being the same as Special:Version
[01:15:33] <bawolff>	 The footer is already full of useless info as it stands
[01:16:12] <Gloria>	 Reedy: Many sites do it.
[01:16:31] <Reedy>	 Such as?
[01:16:58] <Gloria>	 Torrent sites. :-)
[01:17:08] <bawolff>	 Hmm, gerrit does
[01:17:15] <Gloria>	 > Powered by gazelle 1.6.13.14
[01:17:20] <Gloria>	 > Load average: 0.97, 0.76, 0.70
[01:17:34] <Reedy>	 Mash F5 a few times
[01:17:36] <bawolff>	 I used to see people do svn style $ID$ things in footer, but that seems to have died out
[01:18:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) page footer doesn't show MW version info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61406  +comment (10b)
[01:20:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Access to undeclared static property: FRInclusionManager::$instance at FRInclusionManager.php on line 16 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60994  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[01:20:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) page footer doesn't show MW version info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61406  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[01:21:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Access to undeclared static property: FRInclusionManager::$instance at FRInclusionManager.php on line 16 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60994  (10Aaron Schulz)
[01:21:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Math at wmf/1.23wmf12 HEAD seems pretty broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60997  (10Aaron Schulz)
[01:22:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) page footer doesn't show MW version info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61406  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[01:25:16] <Kolega2357>	 What is the oAuth?
[01:25:28] <rdwrer>	 !oauth
[01:25:29] <bawolff>	 !oauth
[01:25:31] <rdwrer>	 Boo.
[01:25:41] <rdwrer>	 bawolff: FASTEST BANG IN THE WEST
[01:25:42] <rdwrer>	 Wait.
[01:25:44] <bawolff>	 rdwrer: I think we broke mwbot ;)
[01:25:44] <p858snake|l>	 <snerk> OAuth is an open standard for authorization. OAuth provides a method for clients to access server resources on behalf of a resource owner (such as a different client or an end-user). It also provides a process for end-users to authorize third-party access to their server resources without sharing their credentials (typically, a username and password pair), using user-agent redirections.
[01:25:57] <p858snake|l>	 !wikipedia OAuth
[01:25:58] <wm-bot>	 A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipe
[01:26:07] <rdwrer>	 Hahaha
[01:26:08] <bawolff>	 lol
[01:26:16] <p858snake|l>	 why is that bang not a link to wikipedia >.>
[01:26:23] <p858snake|l>	 go forth and fix
[01:26:31] <bawolff>	 !mw w:OAuth
[01:26:32] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/w:OAuth
[01:26:38] <rdwrer>	 p858snake|l: Because we value humour over Wikipedia here, apparently
[01:26:49] <bawolff>	 or [[w:oAuth]]
[01:26:57] * bawolff  thought that used to work

[01:27:07] <p858snake|l>	 it was never ment to work
[01:27:14] <p858snake|l>	 it just broke half the time
[01:27:22] <rdwrer>	 !oauth is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OAuth
[01:27:23] <wm-bot>	 Key was added
[01:27:27] <rdwrer>	 Effin right
[01:28:30] * bawolff  is shocked that is not already a key

[01:29:47] <rdwrer>	 Well now it is!
[01:29:50] <rdwrer>	 So yeah!
[01:29:57] <rdwrer>	 Bang away next time
[01:41:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) In paginated specialpage reports, include # of results & specify the end of the range displayed on this page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11269  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[01:42:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) {{#ifeq:PageName|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|...}} doesn't work if page name includes a single quote (apostrophe) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61407 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; ()
[01:45:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{#ifeq:PageName|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|...}} doesn't work if page name includes a single quote (apostrophe) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61407  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[01:47:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{#ifeq:PageName|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|...}} doesn't work if page name includes a single quote (apostrophe) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61407  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[01:47:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} must not escape special chars, otherwise it makes {{#ifeq:}} unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35746  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[01:47:50] <mijan>	 hello
[01:48:03] <bawolff>	 hi
[01:48:13] <Gloria>	 Hi.
[01:48:29] <mijan>	 just one question: is it ok that sites like asianwiki.com do not mention it's based on mediawiki anywhere ?
[01:49:35] <Gloria>	 mijan: Yes, that's fine.
[01:50:01] <bawolff>	 mijan: If they distribute the source code they have to mention, but just as a website I believe its fine
[01:50:39] <Niharika>	 Hello!
[01:50:42] <bawolff>	 mijan: It might be considered more polite if it mentioned mediawiki somewhere in the fine print, but not required
[01:51:03] <mijan>	 soka... i just thought it would be at least good manners to pay respect, if only in a tiny banner somewhere....
[01:51:54] <mijan>	 well, then, ..... wow it's erlaxed isn't it.
[01:51:57] <mijan>	 relaxed
[01:52:13] <bawolff>	 mijan: Well in the html it says <meta name="generator" content="MediaWiki 1.21.1"/>, which is good enough for any politeness concerns (in my opinion)
[01:53:22] <mijan>	 yes that's where i found it too. Well if it was me, i wouldn't 'hide' it from users (who do not read sources).
[01:53:35] <mijan>	 nah, i dont like it.
[01:53:58] <bawolff>	 If it was my website, I would probably add a line to http://asianwiki.com/AsianWiki:About 
[01:54:12] <mijan>	 yes that's where i looked first.
[01:54:46] <mijan>	 well if you see no problem then that's also fine with me ...
[01:54:59] <mijan>	 many thanks - ja na !
[01:57:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} must not escape special chars, otherwise it makes {{#ifeq:}} unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35746  +comment (10rkaldari)
[01:59:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} must not escape special chars, otherwise it makes {{#ifeq:}} unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35746  +comment (10b)
[01:59:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor:The search spinner continues indefinitely for some search strings in Image Search textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61392  (10ryasmeen)
[02:04:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} must not escape special chars, otherwise it makes {{#ifeq:}} unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35746  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[02:05:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Cannot view images in higher resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61408 minor; Wikipedia App: Media Uploads; ()
[02:07:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Cannot view images in higher resolution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61408  +comment (10ollie.zhu)
[02:08:07] <bawolff>	 So if I made {{#ifeq:&amp;|&|..}} evaluate to true, what's the change that will break the world?
[02:15:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor:The search spinner continues indefinitely for some search strings in Image Search textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61392  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[02:27:14] <jackmcbarn>	 bawolff: i guarantee you that would break something really badly, i just can't tell you what
[02:27:26] <bawolff>	 jackmcbarn: That's sad
[02:28:27] <bawolff>	 jackmcbarn: It really doesn't make logical sense that we don't convert &amp; to & before comparision
[02:29:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor:The search spinner continues indefinitely for some search strings in Image Search textbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61392  +comment (10moriel)
[02:30:38] <jackmcbarn>	 why not just provide a parser function to (un)escape those things?
[02:31:17] <bawolff>	 We have one, people aren't using it
[02:31:37] <bawolff>	 The issue is people don't expect {{PAGENAME}} to escape those things in the first place
[02:31:58] <jackmcbarn>	 what is it? i didn't know we had one
[02:32:35] <bawolff>	 Well not those specificly, but if you do {{PAGENAME:foo}} it will apply the same escaping as {{PAGENAME}}
[02:32:50] <bawolff>	 I don't know if we have a decode html entities function
[02:32:53] <jackmcbarn>	 oh. why don't we have those specifically? they seem like they'd be useful?
[02:33:36] <bawolff>	 I guess nobody has ever asked for them
[02:33:54] <bawolff>	 In 99% of places in mediawiki &amp; is treated identical to a plain &
[02:34:46] <Gloria>	 {{FULLPAGENAME:}} is a strange concept to me.
[02:34:51] <Gloria>	 I don't really get it.
[02:35:57] <bawolff>	 Gloria: Like most parser functions, its entirely unintuitive, with people just building on top of things
[02:36:18] <Gloria>	 blindly building *
[02:36:19] <bawolff>	 {{FULLPAGENAME:foo}} outputs {{FULLPAGENAME}} as if it was on a page named foo
[02:36:30] <bawolff>	 normalizing foo appropriately
[02:37:43] <Gloria>	 bawolff: Am I allowed to call that retarded?
[02:37:57] <Gloria>	 The whole thing seems pretty awful.
[02:38:18] <Gloria>	 I was thinking it would be a good task to go through the open ParserFunction bugs and triage.
[02:38:20] <bawolff>	 Its pretty stupid
[02:38:40] <Gloria>	 Figure out what's never going in. Figure out what Lua's missing.
[02:39:42] <bawolff>	 At this point, I imagine anything not in parser functions currently would have to have a pretty compelling argument to have it added
[02:40:50] <Gloria>	 Well,
[02:40:56] <Gloria>	 there are long-term maintenance cost questions.
[02:41:03] <Gloria>	 Like do we fix this weird #ifeq: behavior.
[02:41:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #switch or #ifeq: checks should be HTML escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35628  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[02:41:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #switch or #ifeq: checks should be HTML escaped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35628  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[02:42:08] <bawolff>	 Assuming fixing the weird #ifeq behaviour doesn't break the world, I'm all for doing that
[02:42:33] <Gloria>	 Right, but it's a parser change, so all kinds of shit will subtly break or subtly start working.
[02:43:11] <bawolff>	 probably, but I submitted a patch anyhow
[02:43:21] <bawolff>	 Failing unit tests on account of: No tests found in suite "StringFunctionTests::testParserTest".
[02:43:21] <Gloria>	 Right.
[02:43:27] <Gloria>	 :-)
[02:43:32] <Gloria>	 Thanks for submitting the patch.
[02:43:59] <bawolff>	 So does that mean nobody has ever submitted any patches to ParserFunctions, because that is definitely not my fault ;)
[02:47:05] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Should support less-pedantic, T-less ISO-style option for the "Date format" preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61409 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[02:47:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{PAGENAME}} must not escape special chars, otherwise it makes {{#ifeq:}} unusable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35746  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[02:48:56] <jackmcbarn>	 fwiw, i'd prefer to have PAGENAME change than to have ifeq change
[02:49:04] <jackmcbarn>	 i don't want &amp; equalling &
[02:49:14] <Gloria>	 Why not?
[02:49:37] <jackmcbarn>	 i just like equal meaning equal, i guess
[02:49:52] <Gloria>	 Well, "&amp;" in a text editor goes to &.
[02:50:01] <Gloria>	 Same with the edit summary field.
[02:50:12] <Gloria>	 When it's output, at least.
[02:50:15] <Gloria>	 Both store the full string.
[02:50:48] <Gloria>	 There are subtle differences in how &amp; is expanded or not when surrounded by <pre>.
[02:50:52] <Gloria>	 Or <syntaxhighlight>.
[02:50:57] <Gloria>	 Or a preceding space.
[02:51:05] <Gloria>	 The world is a crazy place.
[02:52:11] <bawolff>	 I'd be more worried about people doing something funky with &#32; to try and stop whitespace trimming
[02:52:50] <bawolff>	 jackmcbarn: We used to have {{PAGENAME}} not do that. Result was things were super broken for pages starting with * as, writing {{PAGENAME}} would start a list
[02:53:11] <jackmcbarn>	 so why not add an {{htmlescape|whatever}} or <htmlescape>whatever</htmlescape>?
[02:57:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Jenkins unit tests for ParserFunctions should set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61410 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; ()
[02:58:14] <bawolff>	 People tend not to do that when its only for a couple cases needed, and intuitively its unexpected one would need to do that
[02:58:30] <bawolff>	 and in practise nobody did that, but lots of people complained about the issue
[03:02:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a mechanism to disable VisualEditor on a given page (to be used if it corrupts said page) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52141  +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg)
[03:03:19] <jackmcbarn>	 we already have PAGENAME and PAGENAMEE. why not add PAGENAMER that isn't escaped and leave the others alone?
[03:03:31] <jackmcbarn>	 or PAGENAMEU
[03:05:26] <Gloria>	 Oh God.
[03:05:40] <Gloria>	 Please God no.
[03:06:36] <Gloria>	 jackmcbarn: We want to get away from all ParserFunctions and probably most magic words.
[03:06:44] <Gloria>	 They're all kind of hacks of one kind or another.
[03:12:33] <jackmcbarn>	 what are we replacing them with?
[03:45:25] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Popups: Light grey text is too light - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61411 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Popups; ()
[04:54:00] <legoktm>	 jackmcbarn: scribunto!
[05:05:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Should support less-pedantic, T-less ISO-style option for the "Date format" preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61409  +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff))
[05:21:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[05:21:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[05:26:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  +comment (10mflaschen)
[05:34:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  +comment (10Nathan Larson)
[05:44:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[06:46:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Misleading starttimestamp documentation in Edit API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61412 normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; ()
[07:02:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mismatched tags in rendered HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26047  +comment (10robinhood70)
[07:06:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Interwiki prefix c: could be used as a shortcut for commons:, but conflicts with Hindi Wikipedia configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4676  +comment (10jayvdb)
[07:15:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No way to get the ID of a deleted page from deletion logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26122  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[08:31:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Icinga has httpauth on (not accessible for public) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60112  (10Tim Landscheidt)
[08:31:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) New instances are stuck in "The certificate retrieved from the master does not match the agent's private key." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61413 blocker; Wikimedia Labs: General; ()
[08:35:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) {{FILEPATH:{{PAGENAME}} }} doesn't work for filenames containing characters that get escaped to HTML entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16474  +comment (10verdy_p)
[09:47:09] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Display custom page title in category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61414 enhancement; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[09:52:48] <Nemo_bis>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Preventing_access#Restricting_download_of_part_of_the_files_only
[10:15:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) In paginated specialpage reports, include # of results & specify the end of the range displayed on this page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11269  +comment (10aditya.iiita102)
[10:42:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:ShortUrl on Bengali Wikimedia Project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60956  (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[10:43:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:GuidedTours on se.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61192  (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[10:44:03] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Feature request: put back math extension in the default package - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61415 enhancement; MediaWiki: Installer; ()
[10:47:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New instances are stuck in "The certificate retrieved from the master does not match the agent's private key." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61413  +comment (10abogott)
[10:57:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New instances are stuck in "The certificate retrieved from the master does not match the agent's private key." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61413  +comment (10abogott)
[11:45:47] <Wikinaut>	 Nemo_bis: hi
[11:46:14] <Wikinaut>	 Can we shortly chat about the read-uploaded-files issue ?
[11:49:22] <Nemo_bis>	 Wikinaut: I've read your last diff but I really know nothing about all this
[11:49:28] <Nemo_bis>	 Let alone writing extensions
[11:49:40] <Wikinaut>	 ah, I found interesting stuff one moment
[11:49:59] <Nemo_bis>	 I'd really like to see an img_auth.php implementation in Lockdown and/or SimpleSecurity extension
[11:50:00] <Wikinaut>	 here  img_auth.php
[11:50:35] <Wikinaut>	 I also will propose to change the img_auth.php to file_auth.php
[11:50:43] <Wikinaut>	 in a bugzilla, and/or mail
[11:50:56] <Wikinaut>	 first, I will test if it really works
[11:51:03] <Wikinaut>	 let's keep in touch
[11:53:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New instances are stuck in "The certificate retrieved from the master does not match the agent's private key." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61413  +comment (10tim)
[11:56:55] <Nemo_bis>	 sure, add me to cc
[11:57:22] <natbrown>	 Hi, we are adding a new  extension to MediaWiki and not sure that we do it correctly. Can someone help? 
[11:58:23] <Vulpix>	 natbrown: maybe, explain what's your problem :)
[11:59:14] <natbrown>	 Vulpix:Thank you for yesterday, Today site is a lot qucker! https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?utm_source=pubinsights&filter_third_party_resources=true&hl=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwikitranslate.org%2Fwiki%2FMain_Page&tab=desktop 
[11:59:55] <natbrown>	 Edlira added compression to the servers too, it was a big change!
[12:02:43] <natbrown>	 Edlira Dushku is adding extension to shortening URLs using http://yourls.org The work on it was started by  MarkAHershberger and then some changes were made by Edlira. We use it on WikiTranslate to shorten the links.
[12:05:15] <natbrown>	 I think that the extension is very much needed because the existing extension Short URL works differently. We needed some links that will make some kind of sence for our wiki and therefore we had to write it.
[12:06:19] <natbrown>	 I want to add it to help other people to deal with this kind of problems. 
[12:08:13] <Vulpix>	 so you want to add the extension to git? I'm not sure if I've understood correctly
[12:08:47] <natbrown>	 Yes, we want to add it where it needs to be added. 
[12:10:26] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Give warning on account creation when user name is adjusted silently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61416 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; ()
[12:11:27] <Vulpix>	 someone may need to create a new repository. I'm not familiar with this, sorry
[12:18:27] <natbrown>	 Can we add the new extension to https://github.com ??? Is it OK?
[12:19:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[12:20:17] <Vulpix>	 natbrown: you can upload there, and then ask someone to merge it in mediawiki's repository
[12:20:29] <Vulpix>	 maybe that's possible, but I don't know
[12:21:17] <natbrown>	 :) Yes! We need someone! :) 
[12:41:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  +comment (10ad)
[12:51:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  +comment (10siebrand)
[12:53:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  +comment (10siebrand)
[12:54:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  -community-consensus-needed  (10Siebrand Mazeland)
[12:54:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Not adding or moving Template:Shared IP advice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60890  +comment (10benapetr)
[12:58:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HG 3 crashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61347  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:03:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable EducationProgram extension on Dutch language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50574  +comment (10p858snake)
[13:03:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Version 2.1.21 - REDIRECT shows up as X - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56582  (10Peter Bena)
[13:03:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Version 2.1.21 - Tagging pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56581  (10Peter Bena)
[13:04:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HG 2.1.22 Bug report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61383  (10Peter Bena)
[13:05:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support RTL languages/wikis in Huggle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43110  +comment (10benapetr)
[13:06:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) AfD template warning bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34691  (10Peter Bena)
[13:09:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) section edit can remove all other text when browser restore editform - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60744  +comment (10duplicatebug)
[13:10:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Misleading starttimestamp documentation in Edit API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61412  (10db)
[13:10:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Screened edits via ClueBot NG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34636  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[13:13:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HG 3 crashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61347  +comment (10benapetr)
[13:14:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) action=raw&templates=expand does not expand extension tag parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61341  +comment (10db)
[13:14:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Downloadable code blocks (suggestion from IRC) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38932  +comment (10tim)
[13:16:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Not giving auto-admin when added to new channel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57423  (10Peter Bena)
[13:17:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable autopatrol and patrolling of RecentChanges on Japanese Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61366  +comment (10whym)
[13:18:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Spanish magic word for "raw" should have a trailing colon (sinFormato:, sinPuntos:) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61251  +comment (10db)
[13:21:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Some robot changes appearing in recent changes/watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61239  +comment (10db)
[13:22:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) WikiPage::newFromId( $id=0 ) needlessly queries the database - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61166  +comment (10db)
[13:27:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SpecialContributions Revision::getParentLengths wrong load balancing db connection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59987  (10db)
[13:28:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove SqlBagOStuff::createTables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59125  +comment (10db)
[13:50:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ArgumentException: An entry with the same key has already been added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61383  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[14:02:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show live talk & other notification updates in web UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32284  +comment (10aklapper)
[14:05:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) .odb file recognized as application/acad (first type entry in our list) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33515  summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:09:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) sr.wiki edit inconsistencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24726  +comment (10Andre Klapper)
[14:10:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) $key part of links placeholders not saved in Parser->serialiseHalfParsedText() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30129  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[14:12:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Error importing .bz2 dump file: Failed to open stream: Invalid argument in maintenance\importDump.php on line 130 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27065  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[14:17:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) patch-globaltemplatelinks.sql: "Specified key was too long" error while running php update.php with r97899 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31114  summary (10Andre Klapper)
[14:20:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Logged actions (file revert, deletion, ...?) done twice by MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38102  (10Andre Klapper)
[14:23:23] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) ArgumentOutOfRangeException: L�ngden f�r inte vara mindre �n noll. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61417 normal; Huggle: Application; ()
[14:25:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) HG 3 crashed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61347  (10gladjonatan)
[14:27:19] <Vulpix>	 Nemo_bis: Is there any "history" / blame log of https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?language=es&module=words&title=Special%3AAdvancedTranslate ?
[14:40:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Jenkins unit tests for ParserFunctions should set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61410   +easy (10MZMcBride)
[14:48:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Android] App crashes if you select a file that no longer exists or has been renamed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45587  +comment (10bug)
[14:53:12] <Nemo_bis>	 Vulpix: not sure I understand the question
[14:53:42] <Nemo_bis>	 But see 4th para http://translatewiki.net/wiki/FAQ#Special:AdvancedTranslate
[14:55:32] <Vulpix>	 thanks, that's what I was looking for :P
[14:59:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New instances are stuck in "The certificate retrieved from the master does not match the agent's private key." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61413  +comment (10abogott)
[15:01:29] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[15:09:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mediawiki.ui buttons: active state is slightly bigger than disabled state due to border - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60661  +comment (10Sergey Leschina)
[15:09:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rich paste fails and crashes surface with (? specific) content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61332  +comment (10esanders)
[15:18:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Improving message "databaseerror-text" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61419 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; ()
[15:19:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improving message "databaseerror-text" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61419  normal->15enhancement;  +i18n (10[[kgh]])
[15:22:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Improving message "databaseerror-text" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61419  +comment (10mediawiki)
[16:02:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add {{Art Photo}} to the templates accepted by the GWtoolset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61376  +comment (10jeanfrederic.wiki)
[16:12:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) On-screen Keyboard won't open unless I click on the search box a second time. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61299  (10osweetman)
[16:17:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lazy-loading the mediawiki.notification module when mw.notify() is called results in minor, but noticeable delay - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53990  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:17:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lazy-loading the mediawiki.notification module when mw.notify() is called results in minor, but noticeable delay - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53990  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[16:33:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418   +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski)
[16:57:45] * SamB  is happy because somebody thanked him for https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Deletion&oldid=prev&diff=904472

[16:57:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[16:57:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  (10Gerrit Notification Bot)
[17:02:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  +comment (10tomasz)
[17:08:05] * SamB  wondesr what the crossed-out entries in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix mean ... and why it has redlinks instead of blanks ...

[17:12:54] <SamB>	 How do I find the documentation for a given XML-style tag?
[17:14:35] <Vulpix>	 SamB: if it's provided by an extension, on the extension's page
[17:16:07] <Krenair>	 SamB, strikethrough's entries on SiteMatrix are locked wikis
[17:16:29] <Krenair>	 redlinks vs. blanks? well that was probably just a decision by the creator.
[17:16:39] <SamB>	 well, the one I'm looking for seems not to be, but even if it were it doesn't look like Special:Version would say *which* extension it was from
[17:21:52] <SamB>	 hmm, actually tvar seems to come from Extension:Translate ...
[17:23:09] * SamB  found the docs

[17:23:26] * SamB  had to resort to googling

[17:31:49] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Missing stats for zh.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61420 normal; Analytics: Wikistats; ()
[17:32:04] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Implement local-specific sorting for Tibetan language (bo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61421 enhancement; MediaWiki: Categories; ()
[17:32:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement central locale-specific, or tailored, sorting framework (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30673  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[17:35:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Missing stats for zh.wikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61420  +comment (10bingle-admin)
[17:40:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add {{Art Photo}} to the templates accepted by the GWtoolset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61376  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[17:42:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  (10beren2)
[17:53:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement local-specific sorting for Tibetan language (bo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61421  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[17:54:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  +comment (10Snowolf)
[18:05:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Misleading starttimestamp documentation in Edit API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61412   +easy; +comment (10Brad Jorsch)
[18:06:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ParserFunctions call to mb_substr() generates lots of warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51834  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[18:11:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5984  +comment (10Samuel Bronson)
[18:13:17] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Makes section edit preview look bad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61422 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; ()
[18:25:37] <ReneV>	 anyone available for help?
[18:27:05] <ReneV>	 :(
[18:37:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) ParserFunctions call to mb_substr() generates lots of warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51834  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:40:17] <huh>	 ReneV: with what?
[18:44:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Missing log item for account creation via SUL (Wikimedia sites) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35465  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:46:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mediawiki:Geshi.css imported multiple times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26860  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:47:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add warning after null edit so that user knows nothing has been saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11463  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[18:48:02] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wolfgang-Hahn-Preis_K%C3%B6ln&veaction=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61423 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[18:49:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Number of reflist vertically misaligned - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61423  summary (10Raimond Spekking)
[18:59:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  +comment (10tomasz)
[19:00:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) rss feed sets "text" to false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55616  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[19:03:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined function () at SquidUpdate.php on line 46 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60996  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:04:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to varValue::() must be an instance of _context, array given in MathTexvc.php on line 314 and defined at on line 39 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60992  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:04:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function translate() on a non-object at SquidUpdate.php on line 1416 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60990  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:04:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context at SquidUpdate.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60989  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:04:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MathTexvc.php fatal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60988  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:04:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Math at wmf/1.23wmf12 HEAD seems pretty broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60997  (10Aaron Schulz)
[19:07:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) VisualEditor: HTML non-breaking spaces (&nbsp;) converted to ",[object Object], ,[object Object]," - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58282  +comment (10wmf.whatamidoing)
[19:18:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5984  +comment (10naesten)
[19:19:16] * SamB  looks for an "IRC nick" preference in bugzilla

[19:19:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) BetaFeatures: "Automatically enable ..." not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60748  normal->major; +comment (10Quiddity)
[19:19:47] <Krenair>	 if there is one that's news to me SamB
[19:22:01] <SamB>	 well, how would I control what wikibugs calls me?
[19:27:41] <huh>	 SamB: Real Name
[19:28:04] <huh>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=account
[19:28:06] <SamB>	 hmm, must be some kind of glitch ...
[19:28:10] <huh>	 it doesn't have to be your real name
[19:28:14] <huh>	 it can just be your nick
[19:28:20] <huh>	 :P
[19:28:31] <SamB>	 because it looks like it's been working, it just screwed up once and called me "naesten" ...
[19:28:44] <huh>	 wikibugs sometimes does that
[19:29:03] <huh>	 sometimes it just says () for the submitter's name too
[19:32:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Parser issue(math symbol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61424 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[19:32:49] <SamB>	 was that intentional
[19:36:01] <huh>	 ask whoever wrote wikibugs, not me
[19:38:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Flow: 3 elements need darker font for accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59933   +accessibility +design (10Quiddity)
[19:39:42] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) add tracking category for time errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61425 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; ()
[19:39:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add tracking category for time errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61425  (10Umherirrender)
[19:39:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add tracking category for expression errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23959  (10Umherirrender)
[19:41:32] <huh>	 SamB: you can report wikibugs bugs to bugzilla Wikimedia->IRC component
[19:42:01] <huh>	 Actually, Wikimedia->wikibugs IRC bot
[19:42:12] <huh>	 Didn't realize it had its own compontent
[19:43:44] <huh>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=PATCH_TO_REVIEW&component=wikibugs%20IRC%20bot&list_id=277534&product=MediaWiki&product=MediaWiki%20extensions&product=Wikimedia&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&resolution=FIXED&resolution=INVALID&resolution=WONTFIX&resolution=LATER&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=WORKSFORME
[19:43:58] <huh>	 Sorry about the URL size :P
[19:47:44] <valhallasw>	 SamB: wikibugs uses whatever is in the e-mail
[19:48:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parser issue(math symbol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61424   +parser (10Jakub Luwierski)
[19:48:21] <valhallasw>	 which can be either real name, email (in which case only the user part is used) or nothing if nothing is mentioned in the email
[19:48:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Version number shouldn't always use localized parentheses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40254  +comment (10PiRSquared17)
[19:59:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Deleted articles in notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61426 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; ()
[20:06:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update Mingle URL in "See Also" field extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58446  (10PiRSquared17)
[20:06:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Clean up "See Also" custom patches and try to move them upstream - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56040  (10PiRSquared17)
[20:06:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow adding Trello URLs to Bugzilla's "See Also" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53969  (10PiRSquared17)
[20:06:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Clean up "See Also" custom patches and try to move them upstream - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56040  (10PiRSquared17)
[20:08:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page move rollback should not leave a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3185  +comment (10Shikha Shree)
[20:15:36] <huh>	 Hi.
[20:15:45] <huh>	 Re bug 3185, what is the bug referring to?
[20:15:56] <huh>	 There is no "rollback" for page moves as far as I can tell
[20:16:00] <huh>	 at least not where I am a sysop
[20:21:18] <Krenair>	 might be best to ask on the bug
[20:25:01] <huh>	 done
[20:25:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Page move rollback should not leave a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3185  +comment (10PiRSquared17)
[20:26:08] <huh>	 one of the CCs is from the UK gov
[20:26:10] <huh>	 :O
[20:28:39] <mohini>	 Hi, I want to build a new mediawiki extension. I went trough the tutorial 'How to become a MediaWiki hacker/Extension Writing Tutorial' and i started with by cloninng the extension 'example' but as i requested the url 'http://localhost/your_wiki/Special:Example', i get the error 'No such special page'.
[20:29:08] <mohini>	 Can anyone tell how to request the extension? I am newbie and need some help 
[20:31:40] <Krenair>	 huh, reporter was
[20:32:04] <huh>	 mohini: did you install the extension?
[20:32:10] <huh>	 It should be listed in Special:Version
[20:32:14] <Krenair>	 chris.mckenna@defra.gsi.gov.uk -> cmckenna@sucs.org presumably
[20:32:24] <mohini>	 yeah, it is there
[20:32:30] <mohini>	 it is installed
[20:32:49] <mohini>	 am i requesting the right url?
[20:33:23] <huh>	 mohini: replace /your_wiki/ with the correct path to your wiki
[20:34:03] <mohini>	 main page url is this http://127.0.0.1:8080/wiki/Main_Page
[20:34:17] <huh>	 then use http://127.0.0.1:8080/wiki/Special:Example
[20:34:28] <mohini>	 yeah, i did the same
[20:34:39] <mohini>	 but got the above mentioned error
[20:35:19] <huh>	 it's in LocalSettings?
[20:35:41] <huh>	 hmm, I can't help but I'm sure someone else could
[20:37:03] <mohini>	 i went though the tutorial and didwhat was written there 
[20:37:40] <mohini>	 huh: okay thanks for trying :)
[20:39:47] <mohini>	 The error can be seen here http://troll.ws/image/c0075eab#.Uv_QdGdgZ-g
[20:41:30] <mohini>	 Can anyone look into the problem and help? please :)
[20:44:07] <huh>	 Krenair perhaps
[20:45:31] <mohini>	 Krenair: Can you help me? Here is the error i get with the extension http://troll.ws/image/c0075eab#.Uv_QdGdgZ-g
[20:45:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parser issue(math symbol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61424  +comment (10sam)
[20:47:27] <Krenair>	 mohini, sorry, I don't see where that extension should be creating a page called Special:Example?
[20:47:58] <Reedy>	 lol
[20:48:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Parser issue(math symbol) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61424  +comment (10jakub.luwierski)
[20:48:50] <Krenair>	 mohini, looking at https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2Fexamples.git/HEAD/Example%2FExample.php it seems there should be a Special:HelloWorld
[20:48:51] <mohini>	 I tried with another extension also i.e. https://github.com/CodeBlock/mw-FedoraBadges. But i dont understand i to display the page
[20:49:12] <Krenair>	 mohini, try going to Special:HelloWorld
[20:49:22] <mohini>	 okay
[20:50:11] <Krenair>	 mohini, did it work?
[20:50:41] <mohini>	 ya, it shows that there is a special page 
[20:50:45] <mohini>	 This is the HelloWorld special page, as provided by the Example extension. 
[20:53:10] <mohini>	 Krenair: can you tell me how i would display the page for FedoaBadges extension. I tried Special:FedoraBadges but it gave me error
[20:53:31] <mohini>	 Link: https://github.com/CodeBlock/mw-FedoraBadges
[20:53:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Misleading starttimestamp documentation in Edit API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61412  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:53:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:54:07] <Krenair>	 mohini, please remember that not all extensions have a special page with the same name as the extension, and that some do not have any special pages
[20:54:30] * Reedy  gives Krenair a "I can RTFM" barnstar

[20:54:54] <mohini>	 ok..
[20:55:12] <Krenair>	 To be fair, the page he was looking at did say go to Special:Example...
[20:55:38] <Krenair>	 the tutorial on mediawiki.org..
[20:55:38] <huh>	 Krenair: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker/Extension_Writing_Tutorial#Exercise_1:_Hello_world
[20:55:41] <huh>	 ...
[20:56:01] <huh>	 Perhaps the tutorial is wrong, then
[20:57:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Uploaded a .webm file with an ampersand in the name, can't get captions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61336  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[20:57:43] <Krenair>	 mohini, this FedoraBadges extension has no special pages. Instead it creates parser functions called fedorabadges and fedorabadgescount
[20:57:51] <Krenair>	 mohini_, this FedoraBadges extension has no special pages. Instead it creates parser functions called fedorabadges and fedorabadgescount
[20:58:15] <mohini_>	 hm, i agree
[20:58:59] <mohini_>	 can you suggest me some tutorial that can explain the things? 
[21:01:45] <Krenair>	 mohini, unfortunately I can't... If there is something specific in MediaWiki you want to know about I might be able to help find useful docs for that or try to explain
[21:02:41] <mohini>	 well, i got one http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions. I should try the things. 
[21:03:18] <mohini>	 Can you tell me what is the url to request the page where we have parsing functions?
[21:03:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RSS feeds from Mingle only return False - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57092  +comment (10Peter Bena)
[21:05:20] <huh>	 mohini: you mean list the parserfunctions?
[21:05:26] <huh>	 They're on Special:Version
[21:06:18] <huh>	 IIRC
[21:06:54] <mohini>	 huh: I mean what is url so as to display the fedoraBadges on the mediawiki page
[21:07:34] <huh>	 add {{ #fedorabadges: username }} to a page
[21:07:38] <huh>	 replace username with your username
[21:07:50] <huh>	 the spaces are not needed
[21:08:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Default licensing text for Flow should be generic (not WMF-specific) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60704  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[21:08:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Misleading starttimestamp documentation in Edit API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61412  +comment (10robinhood70)
[21:08:45] <mohini>	 huh: ok..thanks :)
[21:14:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Provide working mail addresses for users and tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58796  +comment (10dr.trigon)
[21:15:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Default licensing text for Flow should be generic (not WMF-specific) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60704  +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm))
[21:27:03] <Sveta>	 Is it possible to configure mediawiki to authenticate IP contributors by cookies and give them a random username ie 'User342342' which persists as long as they don't clear cookies — with it being registered and stuff, watchlist preferences etc available, except it's not by password, but is by cookies?
[21:28:19] <jorm>	 No.
[21:28:40] <jorm>	 We've been playing around with a similar idea for some time, mind you.
[21:29:00] <jorm>	 there are interesting implications.
[21:30:51] <Sveta>	 jorm: Thought you already tried. Couldn't find any examples...
[21:31:24] <huh>	 no similar extension?
[21:32:58] <Sveta>	 None that I could find.
[21:35:02] <huh>	 Sveta: are you gry?
[21:35:12] <Sveta>	 I am.
[21:35:29] <gry>	 I guess I should stick to it more. People keep asking.
[21:38:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block log snippet on Special:Contributions should work for IPs in a range block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20790  +comment (10juandevojnikov)
[21:39:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Seperate or remove HTML from difference logic in diff engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29778  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[21:43:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) html of table.diff cells contains terminal white-space not in source text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28988  -testme ; +comment (10Max Semenik)
[21:45:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deleted articles in notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61426  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:46:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add tracking category for time errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61425  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:47:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Block log snippet on Special:Contributions should work for IPs in a range block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20790  +comment (10juandevojnikov)
[21:47:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create nlwikibots mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57885  +comment (10valhallasw)
[21:47:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) the computer makes a correct but different diff than a human would - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38979  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[21:50:29] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Request for maillist for DrTrigonBot - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61427 enhancement; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; ()
[21:51:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deleted articles in notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61426  +comment (10pandiculation)
[21:53:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) diff: as a pseudo namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19556  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[21:55:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Show diff from empty text for diff=0&oldid=<revid> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41364  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[22:03:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Deleted articles in notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61426  +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm))
[22:03:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Echo notifications show [No page] instead of pagename if the page was deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50829  +comment (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm))
[22:03:34] <gry>	 jorm, huh: I added a problem description and some solutions to this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_IP_contributors. I think your help in locating other previous discussions and extensions would be of great value to me.
[22:04:03] <jorm>	 "Discrimination" seems to be a verys trong word to ues there.
[22:04:06] <huh>	 maybe later, /me is a bit busy
[22:09:42] <gry>	 jorm: it does. I'm still working on phrasing, trying to re-shape it from an essay to something discussion-worthy.
[22:10:14] <gry>	 jorm: what links could you please give to the previous instances of playing with similar idea?
[22:10:36] <gry>	 jorm: I feel like I'm asking a third time; this means I'm lost and I'm not quite sure what we're doing.
[22:55:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  +comment (10Philippe Beaudette)
[23:09:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) VE is unable to insert a internal reference with sub-section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61428 normal; VisualEditor: General; ()
[23:11:53] <huh>	 how often is https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=RFC_metadata&action=history updated?
[23:12:01] <huh>	 Tim-away, Gloria 
[23:12:22] <huh>	 this data could be used for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58250 or we could parse [[mw:RFC]]
[23:16:52] <Gloria>	 Dunno.
[23:17:05] <Gloria>	 huh: I'd like to see the [[mw:RFC]] index auto-generated.
[23:17:08] <Gloria>	 If you're looking for a projecdt.
[23:17:09] <Gloria>	 project
[23:17:28] <huh>	 Auto index via templates, Lua, or have a bot do it?
[23:17:51] <huh>	 It may be possible to (ab)use Lua and some other MediaWiki syntax to do it
[23:17:54] <Gloria>	 No bots.
[23:18:04] <huh>	 Agreed.
[23:18:10] <Gloria>	 Basically extract the metadata from each RFC itself (the infobox, probably) and then compile into an index.
[23:18:17] <Gloria>	 It probably requires adding a field or two to the RFCs.
[23:18:31] <huh>	 like the status
[23:18:40] <Gloria>	 There are several statii. :-)
[23:18:43] <Gloria>	 But yeah, something like that.
[23:18:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Implement locale-specific sorting for Tibetan language (bo) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61421  summary (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:21:33] <Amgine>	 <wants a t-shirt that just says "Statii">
[23:22:23] <huh>	 mw.site.stats.pagesInCategory only gives a number, hm
[23:23:42] <huh>	 Can Lua be used on the output of #categorytree or other parserfunction?
[23:29:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Old summary (in commit message) is used in grrrit-wm IRC line for commit message change on Gerrit UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54372  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:30:54] <Gloria>	 MatmaRex: I could've sworn I filed a similar bug...
[23:31:11] <MatmaRex>	 Gloria: i could have sworn i filed one myself too
[23:31:13] <MatmaRex>	 can't find it now
[23:31:54] <Gloria>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35948
[23:31:58] <Gloria>	 Tangentially related. ^
[23:32:33] <Gloria>	 MatmaRex: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52016
[23:33:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Old summary (in commit message) is used in grrrit-wm IRC line for commit message change on Gerrit UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54372  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[23:33:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) gerrit stream-events reports older subject, not changed subject, when a new patchset is uploaded that changes the subject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52016  +comment (10b)
[23:34:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use Function rather than $.globalEval to compile cached JavaScript code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58259  +comment (10gerritadmin)
[23:34:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Bugzilla issue status should remain unchanged when patch set is abandoned - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56689  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:36:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) gerrit stream-events reports older subject, not changed subject, when a new patchset is uploaded that changes the subject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52016  (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:36:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Old summary (in commit message) is used in grrrit-wm IRC line for commit message change on Gerrit UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54372  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:36:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) gerrit stream-events reports older subject, not changed subject, when a new patchset is uploaded that changes the subject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52016  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:36:35] <MatmaRex>	 so much bug activity.
[23:37:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use Function rather than $.globalEval to compile cached JavaScript code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58259  +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński)
[23:41:57] <huh>	 Gloria: I'm not sure it's possible to get pages by category or prefix using only Lua, templates, and parserfunctions
[23:42:19] <huh>	 Lua can't access Special:PrefixIndex
[23:43:00] <huh>	 Has it been done before?
[23:48:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Changing Czech Wikipedia user rights configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61418  (10beren2)
[23:49:36] <Gloria>	 huh: I can't look now, but perhaps later. :-)