[09:38:44] we probably have some guide for this in some FAQ. or at least i hope we do, eh [09:38:49] o hi wm-bot [09:38:50] !faq [09:38:50] Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [09:38:51] MatmaRex: fixed [09:38:53] the apache user (apache or www-data) should have write permissions to images/ and its subdirectories [09:38:57] 03(mod) Double counting changes in edit summary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61978 minor->normal (10Lydia Pintscher) [09:38:59] thanks petan [09:39:08] <[device]> to my knowledge it does have write permission [09:39:29] and subdirectories too? [09:40:52] also, AppArmor? [09:41:27] <[device]> nothing changed [09:41:33] <[device]> chmod 0666 images [09:41:40] <[device]> chmod 0666 images/* [09:41:48] <[device]> still gives error on webpage [09:42:40] <[device]> chmod 0666 images/* gave an error message tho, saying it can't access a file [09:43:12] of course, directories need execute bit too [09:43:52] chmod 777 images && cd images && find -type d -exec chmod 777 {} \; [09:44:02] <[device]> fixed it. [09:47:15] <[device]> I don't suppose there's a way to upload files themselfs, such as .g or .rb files for users to download in the wiki? [09:47:52] there is, however you need to explicitly permit these file types [09:48:01] <[device]> how would one do this? [09:48:09] AND MAKE SURE THAT WEBSERVER WILL NOT EXECUTE UPLOADED FILES [09:48:54] 03(NEW) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [09:50:19] 03(mod) Live preview of languages removes labels from the Language Panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61990 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:50:25] 03(mod) Live preview of languages removes labels from the Language Panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61990 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [09:50:42] $wgFileExtensions, $wgFileBlacklist, $wgMimeTypeBlacklist [09:51:12] 03(mod) Add scap logs to logstash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61545 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:52:47] 03(mod) Live preview of languages removes labels from the Language Panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61990 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:53:13] 03(mod) Live preview of languages removes labels from the Language Panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61990 (10Amir E. Aharoni) [10:02:20] 03(mod) EventLogging should be a soft dependency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61880 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:02:23] 03(mod) EventLogging should be a soft dependency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61880 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:26:39] 03(mod) Selecting a different language should switch the language of the content served - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61695 +comment (10federicoleva) [10:30:11] 03(NEW) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GettingStarted; () [11:09:49] 03(NEW) Babel language codes should be normalised to lower case when used in categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61993 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [11:09:57] hi everyone, is there any way to automatically enumerate the rows in a table? I don't see anything like that in the syntax. [11:16:56] 03(mod) background-image-svg does not embed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61941 +comment (10matma.rex) [11:19:21] 03(mod) incompatible with ForeignDBRepo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61986 summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:07] 03(mod) Block reason being pre filled without admin knowledge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61987 normal->major; +code-update-regression; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:24:08] 03(mod) Blocking dropdown reasons are in user language, not wiki language anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61942 (10Andre Klapper) [11:27:21] 03(mod) Block reason being pre filled without admin knowledge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61987 +comment (10Trijnstel) [11:28:08] 03(mod) minor LESS CSS tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57083 normal->trivial (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [11:32:00] 03(mod) minor LESS CSS tweaks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57083 +comment (10gerritadmin) [11:38:44] 03(mod) textarea scrolls up in IE8 on resize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61910 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [11:41:07] 03(mod) Re-evaluate label of Bugzilla's "NEW" status (rename to "OPEN"?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61984 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:43:45] 03(mod) More descriptive name for default assignee "Nobody" that expresses "You can work on this" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57648 (10Andre Klapper) [11:43:45] 03(mod) Bugzilla "Assigned To" field is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61985 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:44:24] 03(NEW) Babel AutoCreate should check for duplicate categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61994 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [11:44:24] 03(mod) join_conds in SQL select wrapper seem broken in Postgress - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61971 (10Andre Klapper) [11:48:25] 03(mod) Rename (remove?) shell user "80686" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61967 +comment (10aklapper) [11:51:07] 03(mod) Gallery: Call to a member function getPrefixedDBkey() on a non-object in /var/www/w/includes/cache/LinkCache.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51543 +comment (10leo_wallentin) [11:51:52] 03(mod) reviewAllPages.php doesn't work triggers "First argument must be a Title or WikiPage" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59012 04BLOCKER->04CRIT; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:55:14] 03(mod) Wikimedia wikis are displaying the incorrect license information - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60023 +comment (10aklapper) [11:56:15] 03(mod) templatelinks table on enwiki is missing entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61953 (10Andre Klapper) [11:58:27] 03(mod) svgcheck tool doesn't display rendered image if filename includes spaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59969 +comment (10aklapper) [12:00:23] 03(mod) Give Bugzilla's "Save Changes" button some style. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55536 (10Andre Klapper) [12:04:52] 03(NEW) Babel AutoCreate should not recreate deleted categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61995 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; () [12:05:46] 03(mod) Mailman administration frequently fails on Chrome. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56842 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:06:49] 03(mod) Babel language codes should be normalised to lower case when used in categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61993 (10Andre Klapper) [12:10:53] 03(mod) Bugzilla "Assigned To" field is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61985 +comment (10Nemo) [12:14:14] 03(mod) Toolbar looks slightly broken if text causes overflow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61230 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:16:51] 03(mod) Post-edit cookie does not properly clear when there is a custom domain - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61979 (10Andre Klapper) [12:18:44] 03(mod) Rename (remove?) shell user "80686" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61967 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [12:25:09] hmmm [12:25:30] are the release notes auto generated? [12:25:47] just found a function that is 1.22+ yet not mentioned int he release notes [12:26:54] 03(mod) Rename (remove?) shell user "80686" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61967 +comment (10manuel.schneider) [12:30:42] is there a nice way to get the rc_ip field from a recent change or do I need to go spelunking into the database and request it myself given the getId() ? [12:31:53] MissDee: no, they aren't autogenerated, we try to add only the things actually worth mentioning (and we try not to miss any) [12:31:59] 03(mod) Rename (remove?) shell user "80686" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61967 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [12:32:56] MissDee: since a release or two ago we also try to mark all new classes and functions with @since annotations, are they missing for that one? [12:33:06] (also, why the mystery? which one is it?) [12:34:16] oh, getRecentChange() [12:34:32] I can;t see if it's annotated, the viewer strips the comments out :) [12:34:53] https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/Revision_8php_source.html 936] [12:35:16] MissDee: it actually is :) @since 1.22 [12:35:36] the release notes would get rather unwieldy if we wanted to mention every change in them [12:35:37] 03(mod) reviewAllPages.php doesn't work triggers "First argument must be a Title or WikiPage" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59012 04CRIT->major (10Andre Klapper) [12:35:45] fair enough [12:35:50] they're way too long to actually read already, eh [12:36:04] I was trying to find out when that HTMLForm section handling changed too [12:36:23] 03(mod) Set up a server for query relaying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51936 +comment (10benapetr) [12:36:45] (there were ~1986 commits made between 1.21 and 1.22) [12:37:49] ok, I;m upgrading to 1.22 now to see if it fixes the issues I saw anyway [12:39:48] 03(mod) Set up a server for query relaying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51936 +comment (10benapetr) [12:42:26] 03(mod) Set up a server for query relaying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51936 +comment (10benapetr) [12:44:44] 03(mod) Typography refresh dramatically increase Wikibase items label font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57436 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:44:51] 03(mod) Typography refresh dramatically increase Wikibase items label font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57436 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [12:50:32] 03(mod) "Show"/"Hide" links in recent changes / watchlist options box should be localizable per item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58449 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:52:48] 03(mod) "Show"/"Hide" links in recent changes / watchlist options box should be localizable per item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58449 +comment (10Bartosz Dziewoński) [12:53:47] ffs, just copied the entire contents of .. into my websiote folder [12:54:43] 03(mod) Add more variables to AbuseFilter file uploading evaluation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19565 +comment (10mahitgar) [13:01:03] Nemo_bis are you there? [13:01:49] Hi all, I'm trying to transclude {{Special:WhatLinksHere/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} but instead I just get a link to the Special:WhatlinksHere page for the actual page [13:05:36] 03(mod) Add more variables to AbuseFilter file uploading evaluation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19565 +comment (10aklapper) [13:07:29] 03(mod) Create an arbcom-cz wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60764 +comment (10hoo) [13:08:21] Could someone help me create a template which transcludes whatlinkshere for the current page? (in which this template is transcluded) [13:08:25] *into which [13:11:22] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10lokal_profil) [13:11:36] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10lokal_profil) [13:12:02] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should check for duplicate categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61994 +comment (10Technical 13) [13:14:34] hmm, it appears that the section header thing was explicitly changed "recently" [13:14:57] 03(mod) Add more variables to AbuseFilter file uploading evaluation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19565 +comment (10hoo) [13:16:18] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should not recreate deleted categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61995 +comment (10Technical 13) [13:16:19] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should check for duplicate categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61994 (10Technical 13) [13:17:01] 03(mod) CSSMin does file_exist() on embedded data: urls causing php warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60960 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:17:02] 03(mod) CSSMin does file_exist() on embedded data: urls causing php warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60960 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:21:29] 03(mod) time qualifiers overwrite following qualifiers of a different datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61943 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:23:07] robolobster: yes, many but not all special pages can be transcluded; there is a bug for whatlinkshere though IIRC; possibly even a patch. Check bugzilla [13:26:24] Nemo_bis thanks for the answer, but how do i search bugzilla [13:27:32] Nemo_bis before I embark on the bugzilla quest, what do I need to know to do the embedding? Or the transclusion, rather [13:28:41] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi [13:29:30] thanks andre__ [13:34:07] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10acs) [13:34:46] 03(mod) Add a warning when deprecated parameters of mw.Api are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61372 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:34:50] 03(mod) Add a warning when deprecated parameters of mw.Api are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61372 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:39:56] 03(NEW) pywikibot.replaceExcept() may hang or cause an infinite loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61996 minor; Pywikibot: General; () [13:42:55] 03(NEW) logmsgbot: Automatically log git-deploy actions to Server admin log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61997 normal; Wikimedia: Deployment systems; () [13:45:56] how am i supposed to add a user account as admin? somehow this essential part seems missing in "special pages" [13:45:57] Hello, I'm admining a wiki which has account creation disabled. All accounts are created manually by the admins. Now we recently installed the OpenID extension which works fine for existing users, but I can't seem to figure out how to create a new account with an openID. [13:46:17] Fenhl: oh, how is that done? i can't seem to find this :) [13:46:26] Tuxick: just use [[special:createaccount]] (this is the same page as the one regular people use to register) [13:46:38] "just" [13:46:52] registering has been disabled anyway [13:46:53] does it not work or what? [13:47:04] you can register another account while logged in [13:47:05] dunno, looks like greek to me [13:47:09] hmm [13:47:19] (assuming you have the permissions) [13:47:28] (i assume you do if you're an admin) [13:47:32] i see a lot under "users and rights", except "add user" [13:47:43] log in as your admin account, then without logging out go to /Special:CreateAccount on your wiki [13:48:00] you need to type that URL in manually [13:48:08] Tuxick: it's one section above that, called "Create account" [13:48:20] Tuxick: yeah, that page used to not be linked on [[special:specialpages]], it is in the most recent MW version i think [13:48:59] Elmer: that's just "Login/sign up" [13:49:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 +comment (10elitre82) [13:49:40] btw, why is https://packages.debian.org/sid/mediawiki still on 1.19? [13:49:48] Tuxick: could be that you're on an older version of MW (see MatmaRex' comment) [13:50:19] Fenhl: because that's the long-time support version of MW I would guess [13:50:24] Tuxick: it looks like this on 1.23alpha: http://i.imgur.com/5aDg5LE.png (screenshot from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages) [13:50:39] i think that fix was in 1.22 too, but i'm not sure right now [13:50:47] i remember i accepted the patch ;) [13:50:57] hmm where am i supposed to find version [13:51:05] [[special:version]] on your wiki [13:51:06] Tuxick: Special:Version [13:51:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 +comment (10elitre82) [13:51:18] Elmer: so it's not going to be updated any time soon? [13:51:21] 03(mod) Ignore archives - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55040 +comment (10xqt) [13:51:54] Fenhl: the next LTS will be 1.23 [13:52:01] due to be released april-ish, i think [13:52:06] Fenhl: it's updated in the sense that they have the latest patches from the 1.19 branch, but I suppose the Debian package will not see a 'major' version bump until MW releases a new LTS [13:52:18] oww ok, i'm at 1.19, time to fix i guess :) [13:52:20] though MatmaRex has way better info :) [13:52:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LTS [13:52:44] ah, good to know, I was wondering why it wasn't being updated to 1.22 or something [13:52:48] may, actually. not april. [13:53:13] well, as long as it's before jessie's freeze [13:53:15] Fenhl: it is probably a bad idea to install from the debian repositories, by the way [13:53:22] oh? [13:53:37] they do some weird things to the software, eh [13:53:45] or used to, at least. not sure if it changed [13:53:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian [13:54:11] 03(mod) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10christopher.johnson) [13:54:44] MatmaRex: the “Debian changes to MediaWiki” section seems outdated [13:56:13] heh, well, i hope it is [13:56:13] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10lokal_profil) [13:56:31] ah, actually it says that "The 1.19 package in Wheezy and Quantal is quite close to the upstream tarball and you can use it in confidence. Previous distro versions of MediaWiki in Debian and Ubuntu are not recommended, and you should use the tarball instead." [13:57:08] the package is still pretty annoying imo, the files are spread all over the system and that makes it a major pain to upgrade to a non-repository version or apply custom patches if you ever need to do that [13:57:41] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should not recreate deleted categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61995 +comment (10stradbugs) [13:59:42] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should not recreate deleted categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61995 (10Mr. Stradivarius) [13:59:42] 03(mod) Babel AutoCreate should check for duplicate categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61994 (10Mr. Stradivarius) [14:00:24] hmm well, user management could use some work :/ [14:02:06] anyway, for my OpenID question, that wiki is actually running on 1.21.2 [14:02:23] Tuxick: yeah, mediawiki is not very well suited for being used in a "closed" environment [14:03:02] Tuxick: there's a ConfirmAccount extension that lets users request accounts and gives you options to review them [14:03:25] that may suit your needs as well [14:04:39] well i'm a bit surprised this basic functionality is missing [14:04:45] haven't needed it until now [14:05:18] giving new user admin rights is far from trivial too [14:06:42] haven't figured that out yet anyway [14:07:05] Tuxick: [[special:userrights]] [14:07:14] * MatmaRex knows special page titles by heart, heh [14:09:13] hmm ok, i don't seem to have the rights, so back do LocalSettings [14:09:24] coffee first :) [14:09:27] 03(NEW) http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61998 critical; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [14:16:40] petan: Hi. [14:16:49] petan: I made an edit to a user page, yes. [14:17:09] I was just wondering why... are you gurch? :P [14:17:45] petan: Not yet! [14:17:50] aha [14:17:56] why then? [14:18:14] 03(NEW) [RDF] Feature request: Ability to create and modify template calls via RDFIO. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61999 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; () [14:18:17] what does it even mean? [14:19:01] 03(mod) Flow: Contributions from Flow appear in every namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61107 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:19:04] 03(mod) Flow: Contributions from Flow appear in every namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61107 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:19:09] petan: It's the most-watched articles, I believe. [14:19:16] petan: I thought he'd enjoy it. [14:19:21] I miss Gurch. :-( [14:19:31] is WikiEditor the VisualEditor ?? [14:19:44] No. [14:19:50] !e WikiEditor [14:19:51] There are multiple keys, refine your input: e_test, easy, echo, editbuttons, editing, edittoken, email, emailconfirmed, enableapi, enotif, enwp, errors, es, etherpad, events, evilglobals, exclamation, export, exporttemplate, ext, extensiondistributor, extensionmatrix, extensions, externalauth, externaleditor, externalimages, extranamespace, [14:20:05] petan: I filed a bug about that... [14:20:11] Gloria: about what :P [14:20:25] !extensions [14:20:25] MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix for an overview of known extensions. [14:20:27] !extension [14:20:27] There are multiple keys, refine your input: extensiondistributor, extensionmatrix, extensions, [14:20:49] petan: The "!e" key went missing. [14:20:54] I see [14:21:09] I am pretty sure it was an alias for some key... dunno which one it was [14:21:15] !ext [14:21:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:$wiki_encoded_* [14:21:24] !e alias ext [14:21:24] Alias is already existing [14:21:29] Bug. [14:21:58] ph88: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor is just a toolbar, really. [14:22:16] ph88: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor is a full visual editor. [14:22:38] is it good to enable them both ? [14:22:51] Yes. [14:22:54] how can i download VisualEditor from here https://git.wikimedia.org/branches/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVisualEditor ?? [14:28:23] what are popular extensions ? [14:29:46] 03(mod) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10christopher.johnson) [14:30:59] !e test [14:31:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:test [14:31:37] it's little bit lagged but fixed XD [14:31:37] !e test [14:31:37] 03(mod) wm-bot's "!e" key has gone missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61952 +comment (10Peter Bena) [14:31:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:test [14:32:01] I am pretty sure this was freenode's lag, not bot's [14:32:03] !e test [14:32:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:test [14:32:54] 03(mod) BetaFeatures: Have space between information and discussion on non-js browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61471 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:32:57] 03(mod) BetaFeatures: Have space between information and discussion on non-js browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61471 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:33:52] i installed the VisualEditor extension but i don't see it ?!? [14:34:54] Is it possible to get the country or region wise page views for any wiki page? Is there any tool as such for this? [14:37:31] 03(mod) time qualifiers overwrite following qualifiers of a different datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61943 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:38:41] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10lokal_profil) [14:39:37] 03(mod) time qualifiers overwrite following qualifiers of a different datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61943 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:40:02] petan: can you help ? [14:40:15] 03(mod) RC feeds to set up after wikitech's RC feed works - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61444 +comment (10benapetr) [14:40:20] with what [14:40:39] do you see that extension in your Special:Version > [14:41:02] 03(mod) time qualifiers overwrite following qualifiers of a different datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61943 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:44:07] petan: yes [14:45:17] petan: should it be visible when i click edit page ? [14:46:33] you should see Edit and Edit source buttons [14:46:54] it should work just as on wikipedia, so if it doesn't, then it's broken [14:46:56] I see: Read, Edit and Show History (in my native language) [14:47:09] then it's not enabled for the NS you are in [14:47:19] VE needs to be enabled for specific NS, it's in configuration [14:47:27] NS? VE ? [14:47:35] ah visual Editor [14:47:47] but NS ? [14:47:57] how can i configure NS for visual editor ? [14:48:03] NS = namespace [14:48:15] it has own configuration variables you modify in LocalSettings.php [14:48:25] i don't see anything about namespace there [14:48:32] its documentation sucks just as pretty much every documentation we have :P [14:48:32] do you have a reference documentation ? [14:48:36] let me check its source code [14:48:40] ok thx ! [14:49:24] 03(mod) Don't link deleted items in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61854 (10christopher.johnson) [14:49:45] / Namespaces to enable VisualEditor in [14:49:46] $wgVisualEditorNamespaces = $wgContentNamespaces; [14:49:58] did you mean PHP namespace or some other wiki kind of namespace ? [14:50:05] no, mediawiki NS [14:50:18] so putting that in my LocalSettings.php is enough? [14:50:21] for example page User:Foo is in NS called User [14:50:22] i will try it [14:50:33] ph88: NO [14:50:40] :/ [14:50:58] that is default option, you should probably override it, unless the NS your page is in, is also in array $wgContentNamespaces [14:51:15] maybe if you tell me name of that page I can tell you which NS it is [14:51:27] I think there was some trick to make VE be enabled everywhere [14:51:28] this whole LocalSettings.php doesn't mention anything about namespaces [14:51:48] http://wiki/wiki/Hoofdpagina <-- main page in dutch [14:52:02] http://wiki/ is on local network [14:52:58] also i would like to change Article path /wiki/$1 to /$1 but then i can't get the URL rewrite to work o_O [14:53:08] * ph88 confused [14:53:16] I think there is this array $wgNamespaces maybe if you do " $wgVisualEditorNamespaces = $wgNamespaces;" it could enable it for all of them [14:53:44] but I don't know if php works with references or deep / shallow object copies [14:53:49] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:54:00] if it assigns a reference to wgNamespaces it could work [14:54:22] if it copy the contents of that array to new array, and then later modify the wgNamespaces somehow, it might not work [14:54:24] petan: i added that but didn't work :( $wgVisualEditorNamespaces = $wgNamespaces; to LocalSettings.php [14:54:58] I also think that you maybe need to enable it in your preferences? [14:55:02] 03(mod) Change formatting of dates in Portuguese on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61958 (10Addshore) [14:55:43] 03(mod) Change formatting of dates in Portuguese on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61958 (10Addshore) [14:56:07] // Set default values for new preferences [14:56:08] $wgDefaultUserOptions['visualeditor-enable'] = 0; [14:56:14] I think you might want to override this [14:56:34] petan: i got it [14:56:49] petan: yes sorry that was it :| [14:56:52] np [14:57:01] petan: do you know how i can change the Article path ? [14:57:11] you mean the url? [14:57:22] how [14:57:27] yes because i have http://wiki/wiki/Hoofdpagina now but i like http://wiki/Hoofdpagina [14:57:41] that's doable but not simple [14:57:58] it involves some httpd changes, what web server you have? [14:58:09] HI folks [14:58:11] is anyone particularly familiar with MWsearch plugin and lucene? [14:58:12] i tried changing $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; to $wgArticlePath = "/$1"; but then my URL rewrite doesn't work anymore [14:58:15] I am actually wondering if that's even possible [14:58:18] petan: IIS 7.5 [14:58:27] petan: it is, but it's not recommended [14:58:40] because mediawiki needs to be able to call the php files directly like /w/index.php?blah [14:58:41] petan: because you get conflicts between page titles and things like favicon.ico or index.php [14:58:45] ph88: ^ [14:58:52] that too [14:58:55] ok i [14:58:57] !wg ArticlePath [14:58:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgArticlePath [14:58:58] ll leave it then [14:58:59] thx [14:59:00] MatmaRex: that's why I think it's not easily possible [14:59:06] but you can do that if you really want to [14:59:13] ok i see the Visual Editor [Edit] now ... but when i click it nothing happens [14:59:20] i stay on the page to read the article [14:59:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#URL_like_-_example.com.2FPage_title [15:00:46] ph88: you need to have this parsoid installed [15:00:52] without parsoid it doesn't work [15:00:55] right parsoid ... [15:01:52] eh [15:01:56] so i need to run node.js ? o_O [15:03:01] I have MWSearch showing nice search results, with code stripped and the whole "link to section" enabled for sections that contain the search term in the section title, I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to add the "link to section" option to all search results? [15:03:08] weird that they didnt stick to PHP on this one ^^ [15:05:18] 03(mod) $wgWellFormedXml = false; breaks our EditPage broken bot protection in edittoken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49232 +comment (10gerritadmin) [15:10:07] ph88: yes it is very weird, I myself found lot of things unfortunate on whole VisualEditor [15:11:32] I think that it's a step back compared to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WYSIWYG [15:16:42] ph88: yes there was some discussion and the conclusion was that "the PHP script" is a bit outdated a name for MediaWiki since many years ago [15:18:28] 03(mod) time qualifiers overwrite following qualifiers of a different datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61943 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:21:19] heh, googling for rc_ip, and it helpfully corrected it to recipe [15:25:02] 03(mod) templatelinks table on enwiki is missing entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61953 +comment (10bjorsch) [15:26:12] how to give admin rights to Special:UserRights ? [15:26:29] i suppose it's one of the wgGroupPermissions [15:26:42] but documentation not helping me much [15:26:50] 03(mod) [RDF] Feature request: Ability to create and modify template calls via RDFIO. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61999 +comment (10samuel.lampa) [15:28:49] Nemo_bis: you mean the php script of mediawiki itself was outdated? or php as a language ? [15:29:05] I have MWSearch showing nice search results, with code stripped and the whole "link to section" enabled for sections that contain the search term in the section title, I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to add the "link to section" option to all search results? [15:29:07] ah got it [15:29:51] ph88: check the history of MediaWiki; before being called MediaWiki, its name was "the php script" [15:29:59] in 2002 or so [15:30:30] I know lucene has been replaced by cirrus and all, but I'm sure others have encountered the same need [15:31:44] Nemo_bis: eh i was talking about the implementation of Visual Editor on node.js rather then on PHP ... [15:32:33] I am too [15:33:18] 03(mod) [RDF] Feature request: Ability to create and modify template calls via RDFIO. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61999 +comment (10samuel.lampa) [15:34:46] 03(mod) Enabling SemanticForms extension generates a database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61963 +comment (10daniel.vu) [15:35:23] anyone here ??????????? [15:36:00] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Bugzilla response time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61561 +comment (10aklapper) [15:36:30] hi wildindia [15:36:32] !ask [15:36:32] Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [15:40:49] technically (s)he did ask a question before anything else [15:40:51] :P [15:42:01] 03(mod) Enabling SemanticForms extension generates a database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61963 +comment (10yaron57) [15:44:03] 03(mod) Create a {{PAGELANGUAGE}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57603 +comment (10seb35wikipedia) [15:45:13] Nemo_bis: so why are you talking about the name of MediaWiki ?? [15:45:54] 03(mod) templatelinks table on enwiki is missing entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61953 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [15:49:16] migrated a wiki, but sites referring to it in /w/Some_Title style, should i make that work in apache rewrites or is there some mw solution? [15:49:29] no idea why this /w thing was used [15:51:43] hm [15:51:46] nevermind [15:53:43] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10acs) [15:54:17] ph88: I didn't [15:54:17] 03(mod) Enabling SemanticForms extension generates a database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61963 +comment (10Daniel Vu) [15:55:04] odd....Nemo_bis> ph88: check the history of MediaWiki; before being called MediaWiki, its name was "the php script" [16:06:09] 03(NEW) WikiLove: Only embed the heart icon once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62000 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; () [16:06:45] 03(mod) WikiLove: Stylesheet should not embed both png and svg version of image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62000 summary (10Krinkle) [16:06:53] 03(mod) WikiLove: Stylesheet should not embed both png and svg version of image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62000 +performance (10Krinkle) [16:08:04] hi heatherw! [16:08:10] heatherw: I'm without more ideas to bottom page :( [16:08:22] 03(mod) Create a {{PAGELANGUAGE}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57603 +comment (10seb35wikipedia) [16:08:33] heatherw: I saw this in example posted by Jared and I like it http://modx.com [16:08:48] 03(NEW) browser readyState should be "loading" until login completes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62001 normal; MediaWiki: User login and signup; () [16:09:41] heatherw: the Learn & Share section [16:14:18] 03(mod) "Jump to: navigation, search" also copied when copying label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54269 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:14:55] 03(mod) Interface for linking to discussions for block log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45987 (10PiRSquared17) [16:15:29] 03(mod) Run characterEditStats.php regularly on Translate wikis and publish output somewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58440 +comment (10pirsquared17) [16:16:07] 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit maths blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43058 +comment (10pirsquared17) [16:16:07] 03(mod) Date values with hour / minute / second data are not consistently used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54939 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:16:59] 03(mod) Option to not include subpages in Special:WhatLinksHere when searching in applicable namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51035 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [16:17:22] 03(mod) #iferror doesn't work for #property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55347 +testme (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:18:52] 03(mod) Enabling SemanticForms extension generates a database query error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61963 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [16:19:07] 03(mod) Wikidata's Watchlist in wikipedia are like read Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48684 +testme (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:20:36] 03(mod) Claim qualifier autosummary is misleading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48068 +need-volunteer (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:20:40] 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit maths blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43058 +comment (10pirsquared17) [16:21:27] hey all, how do I prevent mediawiki from showing the server's internal IP on special pages like the login page? [16:21:29] 03(mod) Sitelink changes should update related pages' links tables rows as well besides just clearing parser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50924 +testme (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:22:35] 03(mod) When page is deleted, sitelink should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49100 +comment (10lydia.pintscher) [16:24:00] 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit maths blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43058 +comment (10jforrester) [16:25:16] can someone go through this report and clean up incorrect documentation: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=1&ns1198=1&search=intitle%3Aqqq [16:26:51] 03(mod) Style Wikibase entity views for monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40704 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:27:18] 03(mod) Style Wikibase entity views for other skins than vector (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40705 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:27:35] 03(mod) The message sucks and needs improvement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45469 +comment (10pirsquared17) [16:27:52] hi gartral - I don't know but mediawiki-l might know [16:27:55] !lists | gartral [16:27:55] al: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [16:28:20] 03(mod) 504 Gateway Time-out when modifying big articles in the Galician wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57677 +comment (10aklapper) [16:28:22] 03(mod) Injecting non-normalized strings in html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40056 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:28:29] 03(mod) not all jobs are processed (webVideoTranscode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47312 +comment (10aklapper) [16:28:47] 03(mod) Transcluding Special:LanguageStats sometimes corrupts parser state - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48807 +comment (10aklapper) [16:29:15] 03(mod) Bad positioning of scanned image beside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24896 +comment (10aklapper) [16:29:26] 03(mod) Job queue items from 1.20 get lost – need exit strategy for upgrade - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46934 +comment (10nobelx) [16:30:23] 03(mod) The message sucks and needs improvement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45469 +comment (10federicoleva) [16:31:11] 03(mod) "Pool queue is full" and related errors on search api - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60032 +comment (10aklapper) [16:32:42] 03(mod) please include median averages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42521 +comment (10aklapper) [16:34:32] 03(NEW) Merge the two Fundraising components in Bugzilla's "Wikimedia" product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62002 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [16:34:33] 03(mod) Bugzilla products could use a re-examination - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38990 (10Andre Klapper) [16:35:08] 03(mod) "Pool queue is full" and related errors on search api - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60032 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [16:36:56] 03(mod) colon in URL encoded in property parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54312 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:37:11] 03(mod) colon in URL encoded in property parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54312 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:37:29] 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to add/edit maths blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43058 +comment (10physik) [16:37:52] 03(mod) Fundraiserportal messages should use SITENAME - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19897 (10Andre Klapper) [16:37:54] 03(mod) Improve detail layout on Special:FundraisingStatistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32443 (10Andre Klapper) [16:38:32] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10acs) [16:39:47] 03(NEW) Create migration component under Wikimedia Labs product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62003 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [16:42:51] 03(mod) Bad positioning of scanned image beside text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24896 +comment (10Helder) [16:43:34] 03(mod) Merge the two Fundraising components in Bugzilla's "Wikimedia" product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62002 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:43:51] 03(mod) Merge the two Fundraising components in Bugzilla's "Wikimedia" product and the two Fundraising Bugzilla keywords - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62002 summary (10Andre Klapper) [16:44:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 +comment (10jforrester) [16:46:00] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10qgil) [16:48:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 +comment (10elitre82) [16:48:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 +comment (10jforrester) [16:49:46] 03(mod) "Jump to: navigation, search" added to clipboard when selecting a title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59235 (10Quim Gil) [16:49:46] 03(mod) "Jump to: navigation, search" also copied when copying label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54269 +comment (10Quim Gil) [16:50:00] 03(mod) action=mobileview shouldn't return sections when the range of sections asked for is out of range - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61868 +comment (10jrobson) [16:52:35] 03(NEW) Editor "continue" icon gone missing, prevents editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62004 major; MobileFrontend: stable; () [16:54:12] gartral: Do you have Varnish or something similar in front of your wiki? [16:54:52] Lcawte: negative [16:56:12] 03(mod) "Jump to: navigation, search" also copied when copying label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54269 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:57:03] aude: is wikidata meeting still happening in a few minutes? it isn't on my calendar [16:57:18] gartral: Ok, is your wiki "public"/available to people on outside networks? [16:57:34] 03(mod) Selecting a different language should switch the language of the content served - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61695 +comment (10qgil) [16:58:53] aude: also, starting the regressions to make sure upgrading Elastica to 1.0.0.0 (yay version numbers) doesn't break Cirrus on 0.90 and 1.0 [16:58:56] 03(mod) please include median averages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42521 (10Aravind K N) [16:59:53] Lcawte: yes it is [17:00:02] 03(mod) please include median averages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42521 (10Aravind K N) [17:00:14] manybubbles: coming [17:00:55] manybubbles: Lydia_WMDE says no meeting [17:01:09] I just saw that from rob on another channel [17:01:14] I'm sorry for missing it last time! [17:02:16] gartral: Hm, can I have a link? I presume you are talking about the internal IP showing up in the header where a logged in user would have their username, correct? [17:02:20] 03(mod) Selecting a different language should switch the language of the content served - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61695 +comment (10federicoleva) [17:02:24] manybubbles: i poked at elastic to see if we can make it easier to handle the elastica dependency [17:02:33] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: adding interlanguage links via Wikidata means losing one's edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62005 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [17:03:14] one sec... [17:03:37] Lcawte: no, on the login page, the internal IP comes up as a talk: page suggestion.. also happens on the Main Page, see http://kitsunet.info:1180/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [17:06:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: adding interlanguage links via Wikidata means losing one's edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62005 (10Elitre) [17:06:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to edit language links on Wikidata from within the editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52105 (10Elitre) [17:06:29] gartral: I'm not seeing what you mean, can you screenshot it? [17:07:53] Lcawte: http://i.imgur.com/doFKpEX.png [17:08:32] 03(mod) Using the language link tool in the sidebar when inside VisualEditor loses the edit without warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62005 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [17:08:49] * SamB_ wonders how he can find out what pages his deleted edits were made on ... [17:09:30] gartral: Ah, I see... I see my external IP address there, and I'd imagine that is your internal one. The only reason I can think this might be happening is because you have that domain set in your hosts file to point to an internal IP address... [17:10:27] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Bugzilla response time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61561 +comment (10aklapper) [17:10:31] 03(mod) Using the language link tool in the sidebar when inside VisualEditor loses the edit without warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62005 +comment (10elitre82) [17:13:47] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Bugzilla response time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61561 +comment (10qgil) [17:17:03] 03(mod) Editor "continue" icon gone missing, prevents editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62004 +comment (10brion) [17:22:04] 03(mod) Bayesian Spam Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47207 +comment (10aklapper) [17:22:31] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Block transclusions should be draggable, like inline transclusions are - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62006 minor; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [17:22:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Block transclusions should be draggable, like inline transclusions are - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62006 (10James Forrester) [17:22:45] 03(mod) User contributions feed does not display diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41085 +comment (10aklapper) [17:24:22] 03(mod) WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43065 +comment (10aklapper) [17:25:07] 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610 +comment (10aklapper) [17:25:43] 03(mod) Book upload customization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47561 +comment (10aklapper) [17:26:21] monteirobrena, hello! [17:26:30] hi qgil [17:27:32] 03(mod) "Other languages" box in Translate extension should use an HTML list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55389 +comment (10aklapper) [17:28:36] 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 +comment (10Krinkle) [17:28:57] 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 +comment (10krinklemail) [17:28:59] monteirobrena, it is time for to start seriously with the texts. I'm thinking of dropping "Discuss" and put "Free" (or "Open source", something along these lines) instead [17:29:29] The UniversalLanguageSelector always stucks gerrit download at 64%, is it my net connection, or is it same for everyone ? [17:29:39] monteirobrena, I mean " it is time for me to start..." [17:30:10] monteirobrena, what are you working on now? [17:30:16] 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 +comment (10krinklemail) [17:30:19] 03(mod) CORE repo broken ? git pull fails: fatal: pack has 14 unresolved deltas - fatal: index-pack failed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 (10Krinkle) [17:31:28] qgil: yes, I think we need tell something about open source and added "wiki" in somewhere [17:31:53] qgil: I'm trying and thinking about botom page [17:32:33] qgil: I like this http://modx.com/ (Learn & Share section) [17:32:42] 03(mod) Local clone of mediawiki-core unable to update (git pull fails: fatal: pack has unresolved deltas, index-pack failed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44129 summary (10Krinkle) [17:33:28] monteirobrena, ok, I will change now the sequence of the features and I will rename Discuss to Free. We will need to think about the icons. "W" has generated some feedback but I still think it is a good idea to keep it, because everybody knows that, but let's see if better ideas come up. [17:34:40] 03(NEW) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 major; VisualEditor: General; () [17:34:41] ^demon|away: RoanKattouw_away: Ryan_Lane2: Any ideas for fixing/preventing bug 44129 ? [17:35:37] monteirobrena, hm, oh yes, the links to twitter etc [17:35:59] 03(mod) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 +comment (10robert.labrie) [17:36:50] 03(mod) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 +comment (10robert.labrie) [17:38:03] Are MW's PHP docs down for everyone as well as me? [17:38:26] qgil: the "Extend" icon needs to be changed by something like a puzzle but I don't found a icon that can be added Wikimedia colors like the others. [17:38:53] 03(mod) WikiLove: Stylesheet should not embed both png and svg version of image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62000 (10Andre Klapper) [17:39:12] 03(mod) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 +comment (10robert.labrie) [17:39:15] 03(mod) Special:UserProfile link to Desktop is mis-directing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58566 (10Jon) [17:39:19] monteirobrena, we should use the smaller and less colorful version of the Twitter, Facebook, G+ icons. It is possible that they don't end up being featured at all if there is strong opposition (as it has been the case in other Wikimedia projects) [17:40:06] monteirobrena, then again MediaWiki is a software project, and it is quite usual to find such icons in equivalent homepages, also for free software projects [17:41:18] monteirobrena, letś discuss the icons in the wiki page, since there is many people that have seen many images somewhere [17:41:30] monteirobrena, puzzle piece, I have seen it, for instance [17:42:05] monteirobrena, then again we have used "lego" type of piece to describe extensions in the past as well [17:42:12] 03(mod) Create migration component under Wikimedia Labs product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62003 +comment (10aklapper) [17:43:00] monteirobrena, letś do something, let me try to get buy-in on specific features, so you know that you can work on the icon without the risk of seeing the whole feature being dropped for whatever reason [17:43:15] (like now with "Discussion") [17:43:37] qgil: ok ;) [17:43:55] monteirobrena, one block about extensibility of MediaWiki is a given, so it is good to focus on this one now. [17:45:29] monteirobrena, also, what is your opinions about longer/shorter texts for features? I made Translate longer to see the difference, since the default text wasn't clear. [17:45:51] monteirobrena, still, it is good to have an idea of the preferrable length of text from a design point of view [17:47:33] 03(mod) The message sucks and needs improvement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45469 (10PiRSquared17) [17:47:34] 03(mod) Add lock reason (from log) or [[Special:CentralAuth/$1]] ($1=username) link to 'centralauth-login-error-locked' message. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60607 (10PiRSquared17) [17:49:04] qgil: I think two lines of texts is good, but the width could be little narrow that "Translate" text. [17:49:50] monteirobrena, "two lines" and "narrow" depend on displays. Do you think the length of the Translate description is good or should be shorter? [17:51:16] 03(mod) content is left aligned in rtl wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61867 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:52:27] qgil: that's correct! a little shorter [17:52:31] monteirobrena, qgil: hey there :) Concerning that column being too narrow, 40-80 characters per line is considered optimal for readability. In that regard, we're pretty much okay right now. [17:53:25] monteirobrena, maxalbert currently the table of 6 features seems not to have equivalent width for the three columns? [17:54:00] qgil: yes sir that's a good catch. [17:54:17] monteirobrena, maxalbert works fine with wide screens, but not with narrow [17:54:45] 03(NEW) Add commonsMedia to harvest_template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62008 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [17:55:18] Also a little details, while there is plenty of space forced between features, the icon and the text are almost touching [17:55:39] qgil: yup yup responsive design is kinda hard to do with tables though [17:55:57] I didn't say it is easy :) [17:58:29] qgil: so is there any documentation on which html elements can be used in a wiki page? If so, I guess I could rewrite this without tables. [17:59:30] 03(mod) MassMessage blanks the body of the message (but not list of recipients or subject message) upon preview—but only if my name is in the message content! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61926 +comment (10wmf.whatamidoing) [17:59:34] monteirobrena, maxalbert maybe the table should be simply 3x2, and then handle icon, tech and margins with div? [17:59:42] maxalbert, hae you seen https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_redesign/Preview#Table_or_div [18:00:38] maxalbert: qgil after higher texts we could try give more spacing between texts and icons [18:00:41] maxalbert, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:HTML_in_wikitext [18:00:55] qgil: thanks, that's great. [18:00:58] higher? [18:01:36] qgil: like Translate [18:03:08] qgil: Yeah I've seen that discussion, but using tables for layout in 2014 really isn't an option from my point of view. [18:04:25] maxalbert: qgil: I agree, no tables if possible. [18:04:32] oh god why is the element supported. but whatever [18:04:44] maxalbert, I don't think monteirobrena , myself or anybody else is specially attached to wikitext tables. :) If you want to improve the Preview you are welcome! [18:05:30] qgil: that's good to know, I'll see what i can do :) [18:05:55] maxalbert, your feedback about HTML tags that should / shouldn't be supported is also welcome at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org (MediaWiki >> Parser, I guess) [18:06:09] hi! [18:06:31] maxalbert, I recommend you to go step by step, one table at a time [18:06:40] i'm searching for help with the template syntax [18:06:58] qgil: haha thanks - that was more of a random thought there [18:07:22] qgil: yup yup [18:07:45] 03(mod) "Show"/"Hide" links in recent changes / watchlist options box should be localizable per item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58449 +comment (10Pikne) [18:08:59] 03(mod) templatelinks table on enwiki is missing entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61953 +comment (10bjorsch) [18:10:25] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10federicoleva) [18:10:34] want to apply for opw [18:10:39] how to start [18:12:58] 03(mod) Searching for userpages of nonexistent users (or users with no userpage) should not forward you to their userpage with &go=Go - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59082 +comment (10pirsquared17) [18:15:34] want to know how to start applyling for opw [18:17:04] hi tess21. did you see this page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_8 ? [18:17:42] yea.some kind of starting trouble.i am proficient in java python [18:17:57] need some guidance to choose a project ans start contribution:) [18:18:07] 03(mod) Add scap logs to logstash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61545 +comment (10Bryan Davis) [18:19:36] tess21, you really need to look at the list of project ideas and dig into it to find what fits your interests and skills. [18:20:11] tess21: you can choose a project based in yours skills ;) [18:20:33] ok [18:20:48] where is the project listed [18:20:59] and the selection criteria [18:21:22] tess21: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_8#Featured_project_ideas [18:22:23] qgil: hey one more thing before I can start work on that page - where do I put my CSS? [18:22:51] sounds greek and roman to me.I am sorry:( [18:23:32] 03(mod) Searching for userpages of nonexistent users (or users with no userpage) should not forward you to their userpage with &go=Go - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59082 +comment (10brion) [18:23:40] 03(mod) background-image-svg does not embed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61941 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:23:41] 03(mod) LESS compiler should preserve the position of CSSMin / CSSJanus annotations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54673 (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:23:53] maxalbert: I create a CSS file to me like this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/common.css [18:24:18] maxalbert, Preferences >> Appearance [18:24:39] monteirobrena: yeah but that would only be visible to me right? [18:24:50] maxalbert: and just you can see, but after you can request to put here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-site.css [18:24:53] tess21, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_8 [18:25:39] monteirobrena: okay cool thanks [18:25:50] 03(NEW) Add coordinates to harvest_template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62009 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [18:25:52] tess21, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Selection_process (this one was hidden, good catch) [18:25:59] maxalbert: you're welcome [18:27:09] tess21, if that list of projects is not useful, to you then you must come up with your own project idea, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_8#Your_project [18:29:13] tess21, searching "python" in that page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women/Round_8#Google_Books_.3E_Internet_Archive_.3E_Commons_upload_cycle [18:29:20] ggil.i dont have much experiences.all sounds complicated [18:29:59] tess21: Fear not ^_______^ [18:30:09] tess21, otherwise, get familiar with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pywikibot and ask in that community whether they would like to mentor a GSoC/OPW project [18:30:54] 03(mod) "Transclusion" is not a good description for the button which inserts "templates" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58163 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:30:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Call the "transclusion" dialog a "template" dialog (in the toolbar and elsewhere), even though it lets you add non-template transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55434 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:31:13] tess21, if all sounds complicated it might be because you indeed must fear not (read more, get familiar with the projects), or because it is indeed complicated for the skills and experience you have today [18:31:33] tess21, GSoC/OPW is about three months or more of full time, paid internship. A big step. [18:32:03] tess21, if you need smaller steps to start with, then check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs [18:33:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Search of parameters in transclusion editor should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51673 summary (10James Forrester) [18:34:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Search of parameters in transclusion editor should be case insensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51673 (10James Forrester) [18:34:06] 03(NEW) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 normal; MobileFrontend: stable; () [18:34:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion dialog improvements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53604 (10James Forrester) [18:34:51] 03(mod) Editor "continue" icon gone missing, prevents editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62004 +comment (10Jon) [18:34:52] 03(mod) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 +comment (10Jon) [18:34:56] 03(mod) "Show"/"Hide" links in recent changes / watchlist options box should be localizable per item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58449 +comment (10umar.dagirov) [18:35:14] 03(mod) Required Switching option to Edit Source mode from VE Edit mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52950 +comment (10jforrester) [18:35:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a way for the user to one-way switch from VisualEditor into wikitext source editor mode without saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50687 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:36:31] qgil, monteirobrena: I'll be coding up the page over here for now: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Courier_New/demo [18:37:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Improve the UX of the template editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61822 +comment (10hartman.wiki) [18:37:44] maxalbert: ok, please add the link here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_redesign/Preview [18:38:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Transclusion editor shows empty "content" sections for newlines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49866 +comment (10James Forrester) [18:39:14] 03(NEW) Make a script to import coordinates from Wikipedia to Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62011 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [18:39:19] 03(mod) Make a script to import coordinates from Wikipedia to Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62011 (10Maarten Dammers) [18:40:12] qgil: maxalbert: I'm thinking that the video/media is so out of place in this position. what are you think? [18:43:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Improve the UX of the template editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61822 +comment (10elitre82) [18:43:47] 03(mod) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 (10Moriel Schottlender) [18:44:38] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Watchnologintext needs returnto parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60594 +comment (10Severino Mizael) [18:48:07] monteirobrena: agreed. [18:48:25] maxalbert, specifically, share your ideas and work at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_redesign/Preview#Table_or_div [18:48:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Improve the UX of the template editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61822 +comment (10jforrester) [18:48:49] 03(NEW) Geolocate currencies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62012 normal; Wikimedia: Shop; () [18:49:00] maxalbert, to avoid that Edokter or someone else starts doing duplicated work [18:50:29] 03(mod) Searching for userpages of nonexistent users (or users with no userpage) should not forward you to their userpage with &go=Go - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59082 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [18:50:36] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Some images are now only a couple of pixels wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [18:50:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Some images are now only a couple of pixels wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 +comment (10wmf.whatamidoing) [18:53:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Floated node's action icon (e.g. for template) appearing in wrong location, relative to its initial position, not its actual position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52547 summary (10James Forrester) [18:53:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Node action icon (e.g. for template) appearing in wrong location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51548 (10James Forrester) [18:54:49] 03(mod) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 +comment (10jrobson) [18:55:30] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:55:31] 03(mod) Style the modal dialogs, so that the version with two buttons always shows them on the same line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61922 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:55:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Toolbar icons - "reference" (bookmark) alternatives or improvements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51372 normal->15enhancement; +design; summary (10James Forrester) [18:55:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Toolbar icons - "Transclusion" (puzzle piece) alternatives or improvements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53396 +design; summary (10James Forrester) [18:57:06] 03(mod) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:57:08] 03(mod) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:57:36] qgil: done. [19:00:37] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10mflaschen) [19:03:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Rename or remove "Preformatted" in text formatting menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50918 +design; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [19:04:28] where can I find some help for using conditional output in templates? [19:04:28] 03(mod) MFResourceLoaderModule::getLastModified is a hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62010 +comment (10jrobson) [19:08:40] 03(mod) Contents of pre-existing transclusion saved to article adjacent to transclusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52307 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:09:58] 03(mod) background-image-svg does not embed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61941 +comment (10matma.rex) [19:12:22] 03(mod) Firefox JS error: Cannot open another window while another one is active - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57204 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:12:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor:"Cannot open another window while another one is active" error appears while attempting to save the page after deleting the transclusion "reflist" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57272 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:13:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor:"Cannot open another window while another one is active" error appears while attempting to save the page after deleting the transclusion "reflist" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57272 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:14:08] 03(mod) Disable resolution tool for objects or add default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56609 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:14:09] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a button in the image dialog box's advanced settings to set "default" alignment for images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61323 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:15:10] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Label for beta notice/menu should use mixed case not all caps ("Beta" not "BETA") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52586 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:18:11] 03(mod) MediaWiki starts external PHP on every request - even if job queue is empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60210 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:18:16] 03(mod) external PHP can't be started - open_basedir not checked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60208 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:18:16] 03(mod) Default for $wgMaxShellMemory too low - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60844 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:18:16] 03(mod) Job Queue handling does not work for shared code (wiki farms) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60698 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:19:53] 03(mod) Support for Google's app-indexing annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60537 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:20:08] qgil: It seems like we're struggling a lot with the text for the homepage. Don't you happen to know a good copywriter who might help us out? [19:20:52] maxalbert, struggling? These discussions need to happen, and will happen even if we hire th best copywriter in the industry [19:21:22] maxalbert, there is no lack of tect editors in this community. :) We will get the texts right, and they will keep evolving. [19:21:39] qgil: mmm okay fine was just a rondom thought [19:21:43] *random [19:21:47] 03(mod) Flagrev warning should not be shown when the edit will be autoreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59153 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:21:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Flaggedrevs edit notice saying that changes must be reviewed appears even when the user has autoreview rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58057 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:21:51] 03(mod) Pronunciation recording tool (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46610 summary; +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:21:52] 03(mod) Allow recordings to be uploaded to central media repository (Commons) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53128 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:21:53] 03(mod) Integrate recording interface to Wiktionary definitions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53129 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:21:54] 03(mod) The Recording Toolbar vanishes when the debug mode is turned off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54351 (10Matthew Flaschen) [19:22:32] maxalbert, there are many perspectives, backgrounds, agendas... We will never fully agree, but I think we can improve and fine tune the current texts until reaching a good-enough consensus [19:23:25] maxalbert, good writers are welcome, especially once the dust has settled. Now wikitech discussions alone could drive them mad, unless they are familiar with this community [19:25:20] maxalbert, also... as it turns, MediaWiki as a package has no (marketing) product description, we are basically writing it now [19:26:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Empty HTML elements are not identifiable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52551 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:26:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Hidden templates should display as an icon in-page so they can be interacted with (e.g. a puzzle piece?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49806 +comment (10jforrester) [19:26:40] qgil: oh man ^__^ [19:27:28] qgil: somehow it's fun to work this way, though [19:28:10] 03(mod) Support for Google's app-indexing annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60537 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:29:12] maxalbert, it is totally fun. :) If you have worked in equivalent tasks for companies and other type of top-down orgs you know this is more fun, although not necessarily simpler [19:29:28] 03(mod) Support for Google's app-indexing annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60537 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:32:14] qgil: feels like guerrilla warfare or something ^__^ [19:32:31] 03(mod) Special:UserProfile link to Desktop is mis-directing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58566 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:32:31] 03(mod) Special:UserProfile link to Desktop is mis-directing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58566 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:32:50] 03(NEW) Add support for item without link to harvest_template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62014 normal; Pywikibot: Wikidata; () [19:35:16] maxalbert, see http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl?lang=www.mediawiki&page=MediaWiki%2FHomepage+redesign%2FPreview [19:35:38] it's a good sign [19:35:51] People care, that's all. [19:36:45] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cannot go to a newline after undoing a heading format and Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getModel' of null appears in the console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62015 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [19:39:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cannot go to a newline after undoing a heading format and Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getModel' of null appears in the console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62015 (10ryasmeen) [19:40:39] 03(mod) "Show"/"Hide" links in recent changes / watchlist options box should be localizable per item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58449 +comment (10umar.dagirov) [19:42:52] 03(mod) [Android] App doesn't remember what section I was on when I go back to it from another article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61721 +comment (10yuvipanda) [19:48:08] qgil, monteirobrena: I'm making progress, what do you think? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Courier_New/demo [19:48:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: TypeError: Cannot call method 'getModel' of null when adding a newline after a new media item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59911 +comment (10jforrester) [19:48:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cannot go to a newline after undoing a heading format and Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getModel' of null appears in the console - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62015 +comment (10James Forrester) [19:48:41] (I couldn't help but make some design decisions, but feel free to ignore those for now) [19:48:51] maxalbert, are you trying to replicate the current design with divs are are you trying to come up with a different design? [19:49:49] 03(NEW) Captcha for user signup is too small on high dpi devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62016 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; () [19:49:58] 03(mod) Export message documentation for ignored messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32490 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:50:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inspector for editing syntax-highlight extension contents is really tiny, can't be sized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55934 summary (10James Forrester) [19:50:03] 03(mod) VisualEditor: MWSyntaxHighlight* is badly broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55533 (10James Forrester) [19:50:17] maxalbert: I'm looking your code [19:50:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE blanks syntax-highlight extension block after editing contents with "<>" popup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55935 summary (10James Forrester) [19:50:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: MWSyntaxHighlight* is badly broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55533 (10James Forrester) [19:50:24] What do you think about the code? Imho, this will be much easier to maintain/modify/extend than the table thing. [19:50:29] monteirobrena: great :) [19:53:07] maxalbert: sounds great! so much easier to edit. [19:53:41] 03(mod) Captcha for user signup is too small on high dpi devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62016 +comment (10yuvipanda) [19:54:40] 03(mod) http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61998 +comment (10Umherirrender) [19:55:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Preview from MWAlienInspector of a syntaxhighlight block shows text HTML encoded when it shouldn't - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60332 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [19:55:26] 03(mod) Make pages in User: namespace transparent to meta:User: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14759 +comment (10pirsquared17) [19:55:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pasting a syntaxhighlight block from another VE surface don't load syntaxhighlight's styling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58388 normal->minor; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [19:56:19] monteirobrena, I removed the "Resources" section at the bottom. We have already many shortcuts in the content area + sidebar [19:56:43] monteirobrena, don't worry about that white space, we will have something for it related with extensions [19:57:02] 03(mod) ~30% increase of number of lines zero tsvs between 20140218 and 20140220 file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61660 +comment (10bingle-admin) [19:57:19] 03(mod) Pickle Serialization is hiding design flaws, change to JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61961 +comment (10bingle-admin) [19:57:47] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 +comment (10jrobson) [19:58:23] qgil: the bottom page is less weird now [19:58:47] monteirobrena, getting there. [19:59:05] monteirobrena, also some context on the "Bugzilla link in the homepage" discussion. [19:59:23] monteirobrena, one fact is that the current homepage doesn't have it, and somehow we have survived :) [20:00:05] monteirobrena, another fact is thhat if it's really important we can add "Report a bug" in the first sector of the sidebar and be done with it [20:00:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Right half of toolbar disappears when image caption on first line contains "page " followed by any string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54642 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:00:22] 03(mod) Image captions containing "page " anywhere are parsed as page option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53312 +comment (10jforrester) [20:00:27] monteirobrena, I will comment this in the Talk page, I just wanted to tell you that you don [20:00:44] 't need to feel pressured to find a place for a Bugzilla link [20:01:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Right half of toolbar disappears when
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appears in image on first line of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54379 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:02:00] qgil: ok, any way the link to Bugzilla/Bug tracker is already on sidebar [20:02:01] 03(mod) setlang has untranslated links even though uselang is already translated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59634 minor->normal (10PiRSquared17) [20:02:04] 03(mod) join_conds in SQL select wrapper seem broken in Postgress - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61971 +comment (10Umherirrender) [20:03:14] monteirobrena, I wonder if you will have time / willingness to try a styling for the sidebar... [20:05:24] qgil: hmm but what would that achieve? [20:06:46] qgil: if tomorrow we have a good condition of homepage I think that the next week we can work on sidebar. [20:12:49] maxalbert, do you mean what would a better style sidebar achieve? Well, perhaps users would see it and pay attention to it. I believe now most of them us just grow sidebar blindness [20:14:01] qgil: sure. [20:15:50] monteirobrena, qgil: The features section now toggles between 2 and 3 columns in my demo based on the viewport size - what do you think? [20:16:15] nice! [20:18:03] #CSSisAwesome [20:18:43] monteirobrena, don't forget the Twitter, Facebook, G+ little dull icons, please. :) [20:19:54] 03(mod) Page.iterlanglinks for a page on commons returns pages on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54745 +comment (10Sorawee Porncharoenwase) [20:19:57] 03(NEW) Restore count of rows on watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62017 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; () [20:20:05] qgil: ok [20:24:42] 03(mod) Scap broken for deploying new versions of MediaWiki due to ExtensionMessage file not being created - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51174 +comment (10Bryan Davis) [20:25:27] 03(mod) Page.iterlanglinks for a page on commons returns pages on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54745 +comment (10Maarten Dammers) [20:25:51] bd808|deploy: that bug may relate to the cdb/json issue tue [20:25:53] *too [20:26:04] lots of scap stuff only builds things for the active versions [20:26:23] 03(mod) Option to not include subpages in Special:WhatLinksHere when searching in applicable namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51035 +comment (10scott) [20:27:50] 03(NEW) scap-rebuild-cdbs fails when scap called with `--versions` command line flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62018 major; Wikimedia: Deployment systems; () [20:27:54] 03(NEW) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MultimediaViewer; () [20:27:57] 03(mod) scap-rebuild-cdbs fails when scap called with `--versions` command line flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62018 (10Bryan Davis) [20:29:00] 03(mod) On Special:Watchlist, should be added only to watchlist items corresponding to the edits since my last visit to a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30328 +comment (10Umherirrender) [20:29:56] 03(mod) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 +comment (10gtisza) [20:30:54] 03(mod) shop.wikimedia.org should be HTTPS only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37790 +comment (10ccogdill) [20:35:09] 03(NEW) API langlinks does not return title of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62020 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [20:38:54] monteirobrena, I was thinking of simply adding the twitter etc icons alone, no header and no text, like http://modx.com/ but without header [20:39:00] I mean wiithout label [20:39:43] monteirobrena, also positioned under the video, where we have more vertical space available [20:40:47] qgil: ok, let's try [20:42:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cursor jumps to the beginning of first line after changing the heading format of a text in an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57552 (10ryasmeen) [20:42:33] 03(mod) API langlinks does not return title of Main Pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62020 summary (10Sorawee Porncharoenwase) [20:46:27] 03(mod) API langlinks does not return title of Main Pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62020 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [20:55:05] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Support Elasticsearch 1.0+ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61879 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [21:03:41] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10qgil) [21:12:21] 03(mod) Allow user login with email address in addition to username - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28085 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [21:15:56] 03(mod) Special:UnconnectedPages lists connected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53562 +comment (10Quim Gil) [21:20:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Some images are now only a couple of pixels wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:20:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Some images are now only a couple of pixels wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:24:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Floated images of type "none" display as only a couple of pixels wide, not full-size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 normal->major; summary (10James Forrester) [21:37:07] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Adding content with newline in Edit source mode appears with return arrow in VE mode then placing the content in the preceding line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61569 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:37:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: ↵ is shown when wikicode contains single newline, which is not very WYSIWYG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48290 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:38:17] 03(NEW) Puppet does not populate new repositories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62021 normal; Wikimedia: Deployment systems; () [21:38:38] 03(mod) The button for the "More settings" menu has no tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61892 +comment (10jforrester) [21:39:16] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [21:40:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Place redirects at the top of the page, not the bottom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61862 normal->trivial; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [21:41:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Make references visible for re-use when they're 'hidden' inside templates, e.g., list-defined refs in the reflist template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61777 +comment (10James Forrester) [21:43:28] 03(mod) Bugzilla Weekly Report to wikitech-l@ fails due to move: "DB connection failure FAILED" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61453 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [21:44:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Avoid mentioning wikitext on MediaWiki error messages (this confuses users who use VisualEditor instead of wikitext) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61434 normal->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [21:45:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Fix dialog animation in Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60721 normal->minor; summary (10James Forrester) [21:50:32] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61380 [21:50:41] 03(mod) CSSMin does file_exist() on embedded data: urls causing php warnings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60960 (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [21:53:58] 03(mod) RT-testing: spurious semantic diffs triggered by different ref id attributes in Cite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61165 summary (10Gabriel Wicke) [21:56:19] 03(mod) Implement rendering of redlinks and stubs (in a post-processor?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37902 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [21:56:19] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 +comment (10jrobson) [21:56:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Links are not shown as redlinks when their target is blank (or as 'stub-alternate-colour' if appropriate) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37901 (10James Forrester) [21:56:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Interproject links are coloured incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33084 (10James Forrester) [21:59:02] 03(mod) SUL accounts blocked locally on every wikis they exist should not be able to autocreate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34970 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [22:00:32] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Getting "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" error when I open a page that contains a bullet list with floated content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62022 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:00:47] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Getting "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" error when I open a page that contains a bullet list with floated content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62022 (10ryasmeen) [22:01:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trying to un-bullet a bulleted line containing only floated content makes the browser completely unresponsive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58060 (10ryasmeen) [22:08:46] ugh [22:08:52] Still loading slow :/ [22:09:29] 03(mod) Account creation doesn't let you refresh the captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51482 +comment (10Jon) [22:10:06] 03(mod) Mobile menu broken for non-JS users of large screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60186 (10Jon) [22:10:08] 03(mod) Watchlist buttonbar in alpha doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60923 (10Jon) [22:10:19] 03(mod) Editing toolbar doesn't show when editing the Hebrew Wikipedia on Android 2.3.4 stock browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61232 (10Jon) [22:10:24] 03(mod) MobileFrontend user experience on Wiktionary is rough - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61447 (10Jon) [22:10:31] 03(mod) unusual behavior with Watchlist and Notifications causes browser test failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61504 (10Jon) [22:10:58] 03(mod) Support for Google's app-indexing annotation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60537 (10Jon) [22:11:23] 03(mod) "Near this page" icon isn't like all the other BetaFeatures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58622 +comment (10Jon) [22:13:31] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [22:14:02] Anyone currently here? [22:14:07] And available to help me? [22:14:14] a lot of us [22:14:19] can an administrator please go through this report and clean up incorrect documentation: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=1&ns1198=1&search=intitle%3Aqqq [22:14:20] just ask your question [22:15:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting border in Media Settings>Advanced Settings does not add any value to the image type field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61155 (10ryasmeen) [22:15:26] Oh well I would think people would chat which is why I ask :P :P [22:15:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting border in Media Settings>Advanced Settings does not add any value to the image type field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61155 (10ryasmeen) [22:15:42] * teepee has a question [22:15:53] how to use if# or {{if}} in templates [22:16:00] teepee: ask! [22:16:03] can't get it to work [22:16:12] It's a parser function [22:16:25] it's supposed to make the 3rd parameter in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Requires optional [22:16:26] You do {{#if:some condition|then do this|else do that}} [22:16:58] 03(mod) The blue geonotahack icon appears in the wrong place in RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61134 (10Jon) [22:17:03] Ugh, my generation is like..ugh https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1421834001396827 [22:17:08] 03(mod) Beta Features: The blue geonotahack icon appears in the wrong place in RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61134 summary (10Jon) [22:17:12] * Coldfire202 facepalms himself [22:17:41] "some condition" would be -> parameter 2 is not given as argument [22:18:01] teepee: fixed now [22:18:13] Coldfire202: is this about MW? [22:18:24] huh: is what about what? [22:18:26] huh: cool, thanks [22:18:36] Is my question? [22:18:37] teepee: https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Requires&action=history is this good? [22:18:42] Yes, gimme a second [22:18:47] Coldfire202: do you have a question about MediaWiki? [22:18:49] ok [22:19:08] huh: Yes, hold on. Grabbing link. I just decided to share that video randomly. :P [22:19:42] huh: looks perfect [22:19:58] RFC meeting in about an hour and a half, in #wikimedia-office . [22:20:02] As you can see here in this post. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#MediaWiki_WILL_NOT_load_40034 I've had an issue. Well my hoster did all he could, but it's nothing on his side. It's only with MediaWiki. I can not seem to figure out what the heck is going on. [22:20:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Getting "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" error when I open a page that contains a bullet list with floated content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62022 (10James Forrester) [22:22:04] It's loading, but painfully slow. [22:25:22] 03(mod) Click logging slows down navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61293 +comment (10jrobson) [22:26:32] 03(mod) Mobile view link unexpectedly goes to HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61358 +comment (10arichards) [22:26:47] Coldfire202: how did you download MediaWiki? [22:27:11] 03(mod) User group for Serbo-Croatian Wiktionary and enable recent changes patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61380 +comment (10Vituzzu@it.wiki) [22:27:54] huh: It was through Installatron. :P [22:27:58] 03(mod) Add media does not search local repo when MW is in root - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62007 +comment (10jforrester) [22:30:07] huh: I'm about to do manual install right now :P [22:33:45] QueenOfFrance: ping [22:33:58] 03(mod) Implement EntityStore service - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61264 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:35:09] !ops please unban Jamesofur [22:35:18] huh: lol [22:35:20] sure [22:35:26] card.freenode.net banned *!*jamesur@*##fix_your_connection from #mediawiki on February 22, 2014 8:35:28 PM. [22:35:29] card.freenode.net banned Jamesofur*!*@*##fix_your_connection from #mediawiki on February 22, 2014 8:35:28 PM. [22:35:32] c!~charitwo@charitwo.com banned Jamesofur*!*@*$##fix_your_connection from #mediawiki on February 22, 2014 6:57:26 PM. [22:36:38] ok [22:37:12] Jamesofur: hi [22:37:23] QueenOfFrance: thanks [22:37:26] 03(mod) MobileFrontend doesn't remember user choice (mobile/desktop) in some use cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54885 +comment (10arichards) [22:37:31] o7 [22:37:40] okey all clear. [22:39:40] I think I should update my chat at some point :P [22:40:00] ? [22:40:04] 03(NEW) CirrusSearch: Something yesterday caused a spike in indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62023 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; () [22:40:09] 03(mod) Mobile view link unexpectedly goes to HTTPS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61358 +comment (10grant) [22:40:30] huh: what was that about? [22:40:53] Coldfire202: "update my chat" ? [22:41:20] Sorry, I thought by chat you meant IRC client [22:41:48] huh: Ohhhh, no no no. I mean my chat. I built it a while ago. Need to redesign it. :P [22:44:28] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Something yesterday caused a spike in indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62023 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [22:45:02] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Something yesterday caused a spike in indexes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62023 +comment (10neverett+bugzilla) [22:46:04] 03(NEW) VisualEditor:TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:46:12] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cannot edit notes that use {{ref}} and {{note}} system. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52579 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:46:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor:TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 (10ryasmeen) [22:47:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support for SFN and similar references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51522 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:49:41] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10jgb) [22:50:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54906 summary (10James Forrester) [22:50:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor:Cite error for no {{reflist}} template shows up,when references are added after the reflist in the article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58049 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:50:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54906 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:51:19] 03(mod) Key performance indicator: Gerrit review queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37463 +comment (10jgb) [22:51:29] Does anyone know how I can change the blue border color of the default wiki theme? I've been looking forever and I'm unable to find it. I dont like the way any of the stylesheets are laid out [22:51:49] 03(mod) Object deploy area not clearly visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56608 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:51:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms should be re-drawn when the object they're meant to be covering changes position of the page reflows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61390 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:52:09] StealthBravo: Have you tried all the skins (Special:Preferences > appearance > skin) ? [22:52:27] monobook may be more to your liking than vector [22:52:36] Using the default Vector skin [22:52:37] if you do not like the theme [22:52:49] well I just wanted to mdofiy it to fit my sites style [22:52:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor:TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 (10ryasmeen) [22:53:02] really all I need to do is change the borders and a few background colors [22:53:12] but otherwise it fits well with my site theme [22:53:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor:TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 (10ryasmeen) [22:53:34] Do you know CSS? [22:54:27] Yes [22:54:29] very well [22:54:55] I've been searching through every file for the color code of the border but I've had no luck whatsoever [22:55:10] You can either 1. Add CSS to [[MediaWiki:Vector.css]] that overrides the parts you don't like [22:55:16] 03(mod) User group for Serbo-Croatian Wiktionary and enable recent changes patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61380 +comment (10kolega2357) [22:55:19] StealthBravo: try grepping for "#0645AD" [22:55:23] or without the # [22:55:56] where is vector.css exactly? because it's not in the skin directory afaik [22:56:58] 03(mod) User group for Serbo-Croatian Wiktionary and enable recent changes patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61380 +comment (10vituzzu.wiki) [22:57:45] StealthBravo: I was referring to the page called "MediaWiki:Vector.css" on the wiki [22:57:55] but the CSS should be in the skin directory [22:58:42] theres vector.js but no vector.css in /wiki/skins/vector [22:59:39] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:59:42] 03(mod) Raw edit links on file description pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61807 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:00:04] My MediaWiki is down currently, so I cannot check this (maybe I can browse the source tree on git...) [23:00:37] * huh busy [23:01:40] 03(mod) User group for Serbo-Croatian Wiktionary and enable recent changes patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61380 +comment (10kolega2357) [23:03:11] yeah, im mystified [23:03:19] the Vector.css page wont work either :/ [23:05:19] 03(mod) Puppet does not populate new repositories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62021 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [23:10:16] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Template and categories search suggestion showing up as 0px high in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54965 summary (10James Forrester) [23:10:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms can be width:100% when the object they're meant to cover has a floated element alongside it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50395 (10James Forrester) [23:12:12] 03(NEW) Fix basic selser failures in tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62025 normal; Parsoid: General; () [23:14:21] 03(mod) Job Queue handling does not work for shared code (wiki farms) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60698 +comment (10mail) [23:15:38] 03(mod) Fix basic selser failures in tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62025 (10Gabriel Wicke) [23:19:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Append references section and list to bottom of pages when first reference is added - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54906 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [23:20:01] 03(NEW) New table of contents doesn't work well with TOCRight template and divs with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62026 normal; MediaWiki extensions: VectorBeta; () [23:24:08] StealthBravo: "the Vector.css page wont work either" clarify? [23:24:29] In terms of, I can edit it, but the edit takes no effect even after clearing my cache [23:24:50] 03(mod) New table of contents doesn't work well with TOCRight template and divs with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62026 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [23:25:02] 03(mod) VisualEditor:TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 (10ryasmeen) [23:25:03] 03(mod) New table of contents doesn't work well with TOCRight template and divs with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62026 +comment (10jared.zimmerman) [23:26:15] StealthBravo: you are editing the page called "MediaWiki:Vector.css "? [23:26:22] * "MediaWiki:Vector.css" ? [23:26:38] yep [23:26:43] :S [23:30:35] is wikitext considered a programming language [23:31:02] i mean you have obscure parserfunctions, variable codes, and things called "templates" which are akin to "libraries" [23:31:29] Withoutaname: I doubt it's Turing complete [23:31:47] as it limits recursion and has no looping by default [23:32:06] it's not formally defineable either [23:32:16] Reedy: not using BNF ? [23:32:50] no while statement? [23:33:17] Reedy: nothing in the Chomsky hierarchy can define it? [23:33:32] Withoutaname: while statement is not a requirement for a programming language [23:33:59] yes but you said it has no looping [23:34:07] Wikitext is a markup language, but it can be (ab|mis)?used as a programming language for some limited purposes [23:34:22] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec [23:35:17] Withoutaname: the "variables" are actually constants for any specific page load [23:35:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Make parameters' entry expand to their contents, so lengthy parameter content isn't obscured - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61289 +comment (10Drongou) [23:35:56] like {{PAGENAME}}? [23:36:23] yeah [23:36:48] it's the same object right? title.text [23:37:10] When you implement brainfuck, conway's game of life or other "interesting" cellular automata, or SKI combinators in wikitext let me know :P [23:37:27] 03(mod) Change wikimediafoundation.org's ContactPage extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24682 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:38:00] If it can be called a programming language, wikitext is certainly an #esoteric one [23:39:10] Oh God. [23:39:27] Implementing Conway's Game of Life in Wikitext? [23:39:30] I pity the... maniac. [23:40:12] Deskana: it's already been done https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life :P [23:40:29] https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/File:Conway%27s_Game_of_Life_screenshot_of_Wikiversity_history.PNG [23:40:29] XD [23:40:38] ...fuck. [23:41:56] Withoutaname: define "programming language" and your answers will be more useful [23:42:57] Deskana: this is such a beautiful language ... https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Game_of_Life&action=edit [23:43:02] [23:43:20] huh: … wow. [23:43:28] huh: If you were in the office you'd hear my laughter ringing out right now. [23:43:29] i dont even [23:44:00] Because nothing says "wikitext is easy" like "呢格={{{96}}}|{{{85}}}|{{{87}}}|{{{86}}}|{{{95}}}|{{{97}}}|{{{5}}}|{{{6}}}|{{{7}}}}}{{Subst:生命棋34". [23:44:11] 03(mod) On-screen Keyboard won't open unless I click on the search box a second time. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61299 +comment (10Jon) [23:44:33] 03(mod) Clean up the mess of my mass move of Tools access requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61105 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [23:48:23] Withoutaname: if you can even implement ROT13 in wikitext, I'd be impressed [23:48:23] but please, for your own sanity, don't try [23:49:42] Withoutaname: with Scribunto or Extension:Winter you can program, though. Maybe some crazy person could implement the basic LISP functions as template/parserfunctions so we can write LISP but with {{{{{{ }}}}}} instead of ((())) [23:50:05] * Deskana begins implementation of [[Template:While]]. [23:51:02] Scribunto was meant to complement templates by allowing scripting languages right? [23:51:13] Withoutaname: Indeed. It lets you write Lua on-wiki and run it. [23:51:30] Yes, it is MUCH easier to read (and write) [23:51:51] Any by "much", what huh means is "possible". [23:51:57] ;) [23:53:33] Withoutaname: ever written a perl one liner and looked at it a week later? That's what template syntax looks like a minute after writing it [23:54:06] most templates have converted to just #invoke... [23:54:15] Withoutaname: Good! [23:54:29] That's it calling some Lua code. :) [23:54:52] If it says {{#invoke:Module name|...}}, then look at [[Module:Module name]] for the code [23:55:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-02-27 discussion (we hope) of styling in templates, grid system, scoping site CSS, and similar UX/UI styling RFCs and progress - #wikimedia-office [23:55:46] in a few min [23:59:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Template and categories search suggestion showing up as 0px high in Monobook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54965 +comment (10krenair) [23:59:34] 03(mod) User group for Serbo-Croatian Wiktionary and enable recent changes patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61380 +comment (10wikimedia.bugs)