[00:00:18] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10sam) [00:01:40] 03(mod) \xrightleftharpoons macro for -environment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20902 summary (10Andre Klapper) [00:03:03] 03(mod) Block reasons should be localized to the language of the blocked user. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62131 +comment (10federicoleva) [00:04:31] 03(mod) Review (and install?) WikiTeX - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/3252 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [00:04:37] 03(mod) Extensions awaiting code review to be deployed on Wikimedia wikis (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31235 (10Andre Klapper) [00:57:03] hello [00:57:17] Hi. [00:58:10] I need help installing mediawiki to WAMP server. I followed directions but there are no php files they are all files with php5 extensions. I have php v5 but it wont work [00:58:26] the setup page wont appear [00:59:15] does anyone know what the issue is? [00:59:22] Which instructions did you follow? [00:59:48] the official install instrutions off the mediawiki site [01:01:23] are you still there? [01:09:10] sorry, busy [01:09:21] aaaand he [01:09:23] is gone [01:11:46] 03(mod) Allow "archiving" of CentralNotice templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20231 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:13:32] 03(mod) Add a "live preview" link in the Central Notice interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25387 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [01:14:34] 03(mod) Better test coverage for extension math - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61090 +comment (10physik) [01:22:53] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [01:34:47] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [01:39:47] 03(mod) wikidata-wdq-mm filesystem is read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62129 +comment (10abogott) [01:42:06] 03(NEW) PHP strict standards error on TimedMediaHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62135 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [01:58:26] 03(mod) Add map widget for coordinate selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56612 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:00:36] 03(mod) Collapsible arrows on Special:CentralNoticeLogs point to the wrong direction with RTL interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36795 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [02:16:50] 03(mod) Add .gitignore to the /skins directory to make it easier to work on extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55486 +comment (10Huji) [03:02:25] hey mediawiki folks, i've been playing with the universal langauge selector extension. i've written my own jquery.ime method for my language and i want to add it to universal language selector extension. can i chat with anyone in here about getting that up and running. i seem to be missing a step [03:02:41] Okay. [03:02:52] Hm. [03:03:30] jcrowgey: is it tested and does it work? [03:03:48] Do you mean for your own personal use, or adding it to the extension? [03:04:09] santhosh hi [03:04:12] huh: for the moment, my own personal use. if it proves useful for others i would readily add it. [03:05:07] the work is being done for a wikitionary project regarding a native american language. the guy who started this wiki would like to add support for this language in universal langauge selector at least for the use in his wiki. [03:05:33] jcrowgey: please ask [03:05:34] given that i can write jquery and whatnot (and i also study this language) i am currently creating the ime for this language. [03:05:54] Which language? [03:06:13] Lushootseed ISO-639-3:lut [03:06:44] Weren't you here a few days ago? [03:07:08] the language with the underline at beginning of sentences and IPA orthography [03:07:33] santhosh: i have created a source file and directory for my language in lib/jquery.ime/rules, i have edited lib/jquery.ime/jquery.ime.js to load my source file, i have installed extention CLDR and ran php update names. yet i do not see my ime or language in the selector on my installation. [03:07:56] huh: no the creator of the wiki was here, i believe. i am not the same person. [03:08:03] Oh, okay [03:08:25] huh: the language does not use IPA orthography, it's closer to APA, but really APA is superset of Lushootseed [03:08:53] huh: I don't know what you mean about underlines and the beginnings of sentences, that's not something I'm familiar with. [03:09:44] Hm [03:10:04] santhosh: i'm sure there must be some other steps, but i don't find them documented (yet). I note this message in the javascript console of my browser: "ULS: Unknown language: lut" [03:10:27] huh: maybe now I know how you got your nick :) [03:10:38] :-) [03:11:21] santhosh: do I need to do something else to update the list of languages that uls recognizes? [03:11:39] jcrowgey: yes, I will explain [03:11:59] santhosh: wonderful. i am your student. [03:12:15] You are trying to edit MedaWiki ULS extension. That is not the place you want to make changes for adding a new language or adding an IME [03:12:47] MediaWiki ULS is a glue code that combines multiple small tools to use in MediaWiki [03:13:10] So, it comes with an IME, but that IME is an independent javascript library [03:13:19] See https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime [03:13:48] MW ULS comes with a language selector, but that also is an independent library https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.uls [03:14:22] So, it is true that jquery.uls does not know about lut now. we can and we should add to the supported languages [03:14:46] it is very easy. You need to fork the project , edit https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.uls/blob/master/data/langdb.yaml [03:15:32] That file format should be self explanatory to you. Just follow how other languages are defined there [03:15:37] santhosh: I see, I can do this with github as I have an account, but is there a way to tweak my local install of uls in order to test a bit first? [03:16:15] jcrowgey: you can test with jquery usl itself. I will show you how [03:16:17] perhaps I will find langdb.yaml in wiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/jquery.uls/ [03:17:02] See http://thottingal.in/projects/js/jquery.uls/examples/ [03:17:02] ok [03:17:32] once you add lut, you should be able to test with such an example page, that is included in jquery.uls source code [03:18:04] ok, i will look at the link you just provided. [03:18:29] langdb contains language code, language names, geography where this language is spoken, the script used etc [03:18:39] So, that is about language selection [03:18:54] To add a new input method, it is another project [03:19:02] https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime [03:19:20] Fork that and add your input method. https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime/wiki/Technical-Specification has tutorial [03:19:41] https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime has more tutorial in README and videos too [03:20:20] jquery.ime can also be tested standalone . example http://thottingal.in/projects/js/jquery.ime/examples/ [03:20:32] right, i believe i understand now. [03:21:18] One you are done with fixing these, we will pull the components to MW ULS as library updates and then it becomes available in MediaWiki [03:21:54] yet when i run this command from my wiki's extenstions/ directory: "find . -name "langdb.yaml", it returns no results. I suppose this is because the langdb.yaml is compiled into some other file? [03:22:07] jcrowgey: we wrote them as small independent libraries to facilitate usage of them in non-mediawiki projects [03:22:23] jcrowgey: yes, you are correct. the yaml file is compiled to javascript file [03:22:37] aha [03:22:46] jcrowgey: you will see a script to do that at https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.uls/tree/master/data [03:22:57] ulsdata2json.php [03:23:43] I see, the collection of json files in lib/jquery.uls/i18n/ are generated by this script? [03:24:12] jcrowgey: no. it is this file https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.uls/blob/master/src/jquery.uls.data.js [03:24:13] in that case, perhaps I can just add my lut.json file to this directory for the moment. [03:24:46] jcrowgey: once you add lut to jquery.ime, you can use it as chome or FF extension too. in any site- like facebook - to type in lut [03:24:48] yes, i find that file in lib/jquery.uls/src [03:26:37] i believe for the moment I will ignore the warning at the top of this file not to edit it and just stick the reference to lushootseed in there. then once I've played around with this a bit, I will fork the relevant git repos and do things the right way. [03:28:09] jcrowgey: that is upto you. remember that jquery.uls.data.js has multiple places to edit for adding a language. But you can figure it out by following some exisitng language [03:28:36] santhosh: ok thank you so much for the help. [03:29:31] jcrowgey: if you stuck somewhere, ask in #mediawiki-i18n that is more appropriate channel for this discussion [03:37:57] santhosh: thanks again i was able to get uls to find lushootseed after editing jquery.uls.data.js just as you said. i will be testing more and learning more. i will join #mediawiki-i18n for discussing this further. [04:50:55] 03(mod) A proper catalog of extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46704 +comment (10mah) [04:53:27] 03(mod) inconsistent tooltip behavior when changing language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62036 (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [04:53:28] 03(mod) ?setlang does not change language in main namespace in kk-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58790 (10Runa Bhattacharjee) [05:10:54] 03(mod) EventLogging of Echo notifications broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60550 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [05:34:55] 03(mod) Bugzilla should have a nice logo that is in keeping with the rest of our logo suite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49460 +comment (10Connor Shea) [05:49:48] Given a special page created by extending formSpecialPage, the required abstract method onSubmit is run after "submit" is clicked, yes? [05:50:08] As in, called by getForm()? [05:50:17] Or will I have to call it myself? [05:51:30] justin_zw: yes, its already called for you [05:51:31] I've just been trying to debug it and couldn't register any output, so I'm wondering if I have to manually call it. [05:51:45] no, whenever the user submits the form, it should get called [05:52:04] Oh, there it is. Just checked the source. I was looking for a direct call, not a callback :P [05:52:18] Thanks again, legoktm. [05:55:53] 03(mod) remove $wgContLang and armourMath - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60799 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:57:37] 03(mod) remove $wgContLang and armourMath - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60799 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:29:55] 03(mod) Make search possible from special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51424 +comment (10Jon) [07:30:57] 03(mod) Kindle 3: mobile search results page does not contain a search box. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62076 +comment (10Jon) [07:30:58] 03(mod) Make search possible from special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51424 +comment (10Jon) [08:33:30] 03(NEW) Jenkins not merging or testing code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62136 blocker; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [08:45:53] 03(mod) Jenkins not merging or testing code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62136 +comment (10MZMcBride) [09:06:03] 03(mod) wikidata-wdq-mm filesystem is read-only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62129 +comment (10Magnus Manske) [09:37:30] is it possible to use namespaces for access control? [09:39:44] thanasisk: it is possible to set up a user right which has access to a namespace I believe. [09:40:04] can you please elaborate a bit? [09:40:36] 03(mod) Jenkins not merging or testing code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62136 +comment (10hashar) [09:42:09] 03(mod) Searches fail on en.wp: "An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error:" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56936 +comment (10MZMcBride) [09:42:17] thanasisk: I could try. give me a bit. [09:42:32] sure take your time [09:43:41] thanasisk: It's not recommended. [09:43:43] !cms [09:43:43] Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [09:43:50] !access [09:43:50] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [09:44:04] thanasisk: The "preventing access" link is probably what you want. [09:44:05] thanasisk: I think I'm thinking of this bit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:$wgNamespaceProtection#Custom_Namespace_permissions [09:44:25] It depends what you mean by access control, really. [09:44:36] Write restriction support is fairly robust. [09:44:50] Read restriction support is basically all or none with regard to namespaces. [09:44:55] i need read restriction support [09:45:10] You can have a private wiki. [09:45:26] A partially public MediaWiki wiki is probably a poor idea. [09:45:36] my use case is a bit more complicated than that [09:45:36] ok, I don't see why not [09:45:47] gry: Ask your question. :-) [09:45:55] i have reached the point where only logged in users can view/edit content [09:46:03] but i want to fine-grain access control [09:46:13] There are some extensions you can try. [09:46:16] Gloria: I meant that I don't see how it's a probably poor idea [09:46:19] But they all come with the same caveat. [09:46:28] gry: There are a lot of vectors for accessing page content. [09:46:47] yeah, api, web interface -- they all sit on top of some one thing [09:46:48] gry: Most of them fully support an all or none model. [09:46:50] what is the caveat [09:47:09] gry: Some support namespace restrictions, but it's not fully supported. [09:47:33] gry: Web interface is what you want to allow access to (for some people). [09:47:36] And restrict for others. [09:47:42] Based on page title. [09:47:55] gry: But consider things like page transclusion. [09:48:02] Or Scribunto modules. [09:48:07] Or the RSS feed. [09:48:30] meh, they'd know what user they're giving content to I suppose [09:48:32] Or watchlists. The diff engine. Special pages. [09:48:43] gry: There's a page on the wiki explaining this, I believe. [09:48:52] And every extension that supports this is tagged with a clear warning. [09:48:55] could be an entertaining read [09:49:12] !worstcase [09:49:13] Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertising the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. Then you get killed in your sleep by ninjas. [09:49:59] gry: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_certain_specific_pages [09:50:06] thanasisk: ^^^^ [09:50:37] cheers [09:51:03] No problem. [09:51:10] gry: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions has the full(ish) list. [09:51:38] ok, I guess wikimedia movement's transparency inspired this situation or something [09:51:55] was the userbase more in need of restricting read access, it would've been there :-) [09:52:07] Wikimedia uses private wikis. [09:52:13] yep [09:52:15] For all or none read restriction, it's fully supported. [09:52:29] For partial read restriction, it's passable-ish, but not fully supported. [09:52:36] Especially if you install any additional extensions. [09:52:46] Core is probably fairly decent at this point. [09:52:47] Maybe. [09:58:54] how can I export content from a mediawiki page to tex? I found one extension, but it's marked as unsafe [09:59:35] Export as HTML and convert that to TeX. [10:06:36] 03(mod) wm-bot can't understand simple "!vagrant" command - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62128 (10Peter Bena) [10:07:41] !vagrant [10:07:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant [10:21:00] 03(NEW) FuzzyBot reverting itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62137 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; () [10:31:01] 03(mod) Saving preferences with returning "false" from allowRealNameChange() in AuthPlugin.php causing "Undefined index: realname" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62029 +comment (10fx-eckart) [10:31:56] funny spam bot ;) [10:46:36] can I ask blue spice related questions here? [10:46:52] there doesn't seem to be a blue spice irc channel in this server [10:58:52] santhosh: where should tests for plurals.xml live? [11:22:02] 03(mod) Saving preferences with returning "false" from allowRealNameChange() in AuthPlugin.php causing "Undefined index: realname" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62029 +comment (10aklapper) [11:26:19] Hi! Why there are missing javascripts files in Extension:VisualEditor when downloading from https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FVisualEditor ? [11:27:08] extensions/VisualEditor/lib/ve/modules/unicodejs/unicodejs.js and extensions/VisualEditor/lib/ve/lib/jquery/jquery.visibleText.js specifically in Chrome console [11:27:32] when $wgResourceLoaderDebug = true; in LocalSettings.php [11:28:25] Are these "external references" so proper tarball generation is broken at https://git.wikimedia.org? or I am missing something. [11:30:41] 03(mod) Jenkins not merging or testing code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62136 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:35:15] liangent: core/tests/phpunit/languages/ has language specific tests. Look for testPlural functions in those classes [11:37:43] 03(mod) Recently added label doesn't show - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62100 (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:39:31] Quite strange: when downloading from git.wikimedia.org, /lib/ve/lib seem to be "externals" and completely missing. It's however present at github wikimedia mirror. But there is no betafeatures-icon-VisualEditor*.svg files at github wikimedia mirror. [11:42:19] 03(mod) Special:NewItem return error "Could not create a new page. It already exists." although it does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46535 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:45:02] Even git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor.git does not get /ve/lib. Are there "externals" in git? I though they do exist only in svn, no? [11:45:41] How can I reliably get a complete copy of Extension:VisualEditor ? [11:47:13] 03(mod) FuzzyBot reverting itself - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62137 +comment (10Nemo) [11:47:13] 03(mod) FuzzyBot edit wars with itself on some /en pages after a page is marked, for a minute and some edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61353 +comment (10Nemo) [11:47:28] anyone knows if blue spice has an IRC channel someplace? [11:47:39] or can I ask a simple blue spice question here? [11:47:40] QuestPC: ve/lib is a git submodule in VE [11:48:18] how can I assign a page to a group? [11:48:21] santosh: I am not very good with git, can you give a clue how to clone such submodule? [11:48:47] santhosh: However I can check git manual, thanks. [11:49:54] QuestPC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor has instructions [11:50:27] santhosh: Ok, I'll look there. Thanks. [11:57:02] 03(mod) Jenkins not merging or testing code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62136 +comment (10hashar) [12:00:01] Hi, I've installed popups extension of mediawiki but it's not working. Any help would be appreciated !! [12:00:23] mavihs: Is it showing up in Special:Version? [12:00:26] I've read all the FAQs, downloaded all the dependencies and everything.. but still no luck [12:00:36] yes it is showing on speical version [12:00:41] I have enabled it [12:00:45] mavihs: Is it showing up in Beta Preferences? [12:00:54] I see [12:00:57] yes it is. [12:01:08] mavihs: Can you please share a link? Or is it on your local machine? [12:01:21] It's on my local machine. [12:02:23] mavihs: Try `vagrant enable-role popups && vagrant provision` [12:03:25] mavihs: Oops, are you using vagrant? [12:03:44] No [12:03:58] mavihs: I see [12:04:43] mavihs: Open any page, open developer tools, is there a `mwe-popups` div at the very bottom [12:06:35] No there is no div `mwe-popups` [12:06:43] mavihs: :( [12:07:26] :( [12:08:12] mavihs: What commit are you on? Are you *sure* you have all the dependencies? [12:08:12] is there any way out ?? [12:08:17] yes [12:08:31] I am **sure** I've all the 4 dependencies listed on the site. [12:08:38] I'm on stable 1.22 [12:09:07] mavihs: Do you mind if we double check? [12:10:20] mavihs: BetaFeatures, ApiQueryExtracts, ApiQueryPageImages, EventLogging [12:10:33] mavihs: I meant what commit of the extension [12:11:04] mavihs: Try installing MobileFrontend and TextExtracts [12:12:22] 03(mod) Special:NewItem return error "Could not create a new page. It already exists." although it does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46535 +comment (10maarten) [12:12:41] 03(mod) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10andnlnbn18) [12:13:12] prtksxna: http://postimg.org/image/aos8guu5p/ [12:13:36] prtksxna: http://postimg.org/image/ys1sagaq3/ [12:15:09] mavihs: I'd suggest installing MobileFrontend, but I doubt if it'll help [12:18:08] What's that ? [12:18:22] and what are the possible reasons that the plugin is not running ? [12:19:42] my friend also installed it on his laptop, it's not working even there. So some problem with the extension itself ? [12:20:23] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10lokal_profil) [12:21:19] MobileFrontend takes a bit of configuration [12:21:34] Make sure you fully read the instructions on how to set it up [12:37:06] 03(mod) Flow: should not override global h1 and h2 style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59636 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:53:35] 03(NEW) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Glossary; () [12:55:32] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 (10[[kgh]]) [12:56:50] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Image frame issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62139 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [13:04:19] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 +comment (10mediawiki) [13:06:16] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 (10s7eph4n) [13:16:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:16:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:18:26] 03(NEW) InstantCommons - storage dislocation of generated thumbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62140 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [13:19:10] Hi, seem to have an issue where the gradiants at the top of vector and the top-left logo aren't showing; haven't touched this install for a while, wondering if anyone might know what might going on there [13:19:12] 03(mod) InstantCommons - storage dislocation of generated thumbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62140 (10[[kgh]]) [13:24:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image frame issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62139 +comment (10esanders) [13:28:56] 03(mod) Change item-specific tests to cover all types of entities - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40722 (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:29:30] 03(mod) Selenium tests for read permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40723 +need-volunteer (10Lydia Pintscher) [13:33:35] (It was because I was using CSP to force HTTPS on all resources, apparently it doesn't like that) [13:40:41] 03(NEW) every action in flow requires a hard refresh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62141 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [13:42:22] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Description is not available for selected and required parameters in template inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62142 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [13:50:13] 03(mod) Parsoid: Category inclusions can end up as part of headings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50373 summary (10Ed Sanders) [13:50:30] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 +comment (10mediawiki) [13:51:22] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Description is not available for selected and required parameters in template inspector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62142 (10Elitre) [13:51:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: TemplateData-provided parameters in list should show description in tooltip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51774 (10Elitre) [13:53:59] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: add timeouts for searches and for searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62079 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:54:00] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: add timeouts for searches and for searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62079 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:56:29] 03(mod) Add a way to specify BROWSER_TIMEOUT in the mediawiki-selenium gem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61667 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:59:46] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 (10s7eph4n) [13:59:46] 03(mod) Vertical buttons instead of horizontal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61992 +comment (10swalling) [14:06:01] 03(mod) Improve Jenkins configuration for the extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56962 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [14:06:54] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to undefined method SMWDIWikiPage::getSemanticData() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62138 +comment (10mediawiki) [14:08:44] 03(mod) Allow triple brace substitution on preload templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12853 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:08:48] 03(mod) Allow triple brace substitution on preload templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12853 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:08:52] 03(mod) integration Flow browser tests with Gerrit/Zuul - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61219 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:11:15] 03(mod) browser tests should assert there are no pink error boxes on the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61304 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:12:57] 03(mod) Selenium user rights on test2wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58375 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:14:13] 03(mod) browser test "Given I am logged in" doesn't detect failure, must wait and check for success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61584 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:17:15] 03(mod) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10christopher.johnson) [14:19:09] 03(mod) QUnit test errors are missing in Jenkins short console log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61843 +comment (10Željko Filipin) [14:25:35] 03(mod) Add more VisualEditor tests via CloudBees jobs for OSes beyond Linux - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58110 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:26:58] can anyone provide more insights into https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39259 [14:27:51] Lekshmi: what is the topic, without making everybody here click that link? [14:27:53] 03(mod) Make use of before and after in Time datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61909 (10christopher.johnson) [14:28:03] 03(mod) Make use of before and after in Time datatype - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61909 (10christopher.johnson) [14:28:31] Lekshmi, and what "more insights" do you need? [14:31:44] 03(NEW) Rename URL module to something like MediaWikiUrl or MediaWikiURL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62143 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [14:37:50] 03(NEW) Move Selenium tests from browsertests repository to the repository they test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62144 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [14:38:35] 03(mod) Move Selenium tests from browsertests repository to the repository they test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62144 (10Željko Filipin) [14:38:36] 03(mod) Move Ruby code that multiple repositories use to mediawiki_selenium Ruby gem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56088 (10Željko Filipin) [14:38:37] 03(mod) Move tests from browsertests repository to UploadWizard repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56419 (10Željko Filipin) [14:38:38] 03(mod) Move tests from browsertests repository to WikiLove repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61135 (10Željko Filipin) [14:38:38] 03(mod) Move tests from browsertests repository to CirrusSearch repository - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61311 (10Željko Filipin) [14:39:23] 03(mod) SVG to PNG conversion broken for text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17187 +comment (10aklapper) [14:54:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: mw specific code in the model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [14:54:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: mw specific code in the model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:54:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor: mw specific code in the model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:55:11] 03(mod) Localise namespace urls for multilingual wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41845 (10christopher.johnson) [14:55:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: mw specific code in the model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 (10Ed Sanders) [14:55:54] 03(mod) Move Selenium tests from browsertests repository to the repository they test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62144 +comment (10zfilipin) [14:57:10] 03(mod) Localise namespace urls for multilingual wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41845 (10christopher.johnson) [15:01:25] 03(mod) printout statement #MEDIAWIKI not working as expected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34173 summary; +comment (10[[kgh]]) [15:04:34] 03(mod) udp2log and/or demux.py filename corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62082 +comment (10tnegrin) [15:15:11] 03(mod) udp2log and/or demux.py filename corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62082 +comment (10tnegrin) [15:17:02] 03(mod) "Edit with form" doesn't put page on watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61104 +comment (10[[kgh]]) [15:26:34] 03(mod) Wikidata related repo fragmentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49777 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:26:49] 03(NEW) Make Devanagari Transliteration as the default input method for sa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62145 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [15:28:00] 03(mod) "Edit with form" doesn't put page on watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61104 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [15:31:54] 03(mod) Run yaml linter for mediawiki-selenium job - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56161 -easy (10Željko Filipin) [15:34:43] 03(mod) Store hints about entities in page_props table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40157 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:35:26] 03(mod) Property value parsing, formatting and validation should be done (only?) in the backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49186 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:35:52] 03(mod) redirect to www.wikidata.org not working anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54273 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:36:10] 03(mod) jQuery.valueview.Expert.prototype.draw() should not be responsible for non-edit mode >> getting rid of BifidExpert - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56259 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:36:26] 03(mod) tests needed for ChangesList and derivative classes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56665 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:36:46] 03(mod) Update the wb_terms table so it does not have a numeric entity id - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56711 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:36:58] 03(mod) An element for adding or editing links is added as a list item that looks like an interlanguage link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57094 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:37:13] 03(mod) Cache JS config vars in parser output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58340 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:37:28] 03(mod) Make sure wbUsedEntities contains labels in the correct language when using parser cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59820 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:37:41] 03(mod) Implement EntityStore service - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61264 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:38:03] 03(mod) Wikidata: inappropriate language prompts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61446 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:38:12] 03(mod) Use ElasticSearch for indexing terms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61495 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:38:26] 03(mod) Expert DOM is re-built several times on page load - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61739 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:38:37] 03(mod) Don't link deleted items in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61854 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:41:33] Can anyone provide more insights into https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39259 [15:42:00] 03(NEW) Better APNG resizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62146 normal; MediaWiki: File management; () [15:45:45] 03(mod) Outreach Program for Women: Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:46:00] Hi folks [15:47:16] I am doing a dump of local media wiki installation for a developer ; I would like to filter any sensitive information like db password , users informations etc; i just filtered db password on LocalSetting and the content of user and user_properties table; do you think i may have miss something ? :) [15:47:24] 03(mod) Slight drop in zero requests around 2014-02-08 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61274 (10christian) [15:48:02] 03(NEW) Parsoid:new templates should display one parameter per line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62147 normal; Parsoid: General; () [15:48:12] 03(mod) Parsoid:new templates should display one parameter per line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62147 (10Elitre) [15:48:13] 03(mod) Parsoid does not add newlines between parameters in new template invocations, making wikitext difficult to read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51175 (10Elitre) [15:48:46] geb: some user settings may contain sensitive information. also, recentchanges (and maybe other tables) record user'S ip addresses, which may be sensitive under some circumstances [15:49:33] geb: consider using an XML dump of the wiki's content instead. the XML dump is "high level", will work with future versions of mediawiki, can easily be processed by external scripts, and does not contain any sensitive information. [15:49:44] and, of course, it can be imported. [15:50:24] Hi guys, I found a bug in a maintenance script and I want to fix it. [15:50:30] To do so I have one question: [15:50:58] When I have a file repository, how can I get the path to the file in the file system? [15:51:24] DanielK_WMDE, ok thanks, will try the XML dump :) [15:52:08] Joergi: __DIR__ is one way to do it. [15:52:38] 03(mod) Descriptionless files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32551 +comment (10greg) [15:53:02] 03(NEW) Maintenance script checkImages.php does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62148 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; () [15:53:32] Yaron: Mind looking at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62148? That is exactly what I am talking about. [15:54:34] Joergi: i don't have experience with this code, but I know that not all repos use local files. So the general interface will not have a method for getting a local path. [15:54:50] you'll need to check whether you are using a local repo, and then use a specialize method from that implementation [15:55:28] DanielK_WMDE: Yes, in my case it _is_ a local repo. An example file path is mwstore://local-backend/local-public/8/85/test.pdf [16:02:57] Joergi: so I suppose you'll have to look how and where LocalRepo gets the file path... [16:04:59] (hi DanielK_WMDE [16:05:02] how are you?) [16:05:57] hey sumanah! pretty well. life's pretty full right now. [16:06:12] DanielK_WMDE: I need to schedule the TitleValue/passwords RFC meeting for this week, March 5th/6thish - does your GCal accurately reflect times when you are unavailable? [16:06:35] sumanah: should at least roughly. let me check [16:06:43] thanks [16:06:54] Joergi: look at LocalFile. it'S all a bit confusing, I admit. [16:08:03] Yeah, I made my way to LocalFile.php, where it calls newFromRow(). [16:10:21] sumanah: i have blocked all evening of march 5 for the RFC meeting. would of course be nice to get the meeting done as early as possible, but the only hard limit is 1am. [16:10:33] 03(NEW) Wikidata changes don't show up in watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62149 critical; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataClient; () [16:10:34] or maybe 2am, if bribed appropriately :P [16:10:40] got it, thanks DanielK_WMDE! you know how it is, with Sydney + California [16:10:40] 03(mod) Wikidata changes don't show up in watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62149 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:10:50] 03(mod) Wikidata changes don't show up in watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62149 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:11:26] sumanah: of course. i think midnight for me is ok for both? and we should make sure folks have seen the latest version of the patch. i have reworked it last week [16:11:53] rock. DanielK_WMDE I saw you mentioned that onlist last week, yeah [16:12:05] thank you for keeping folks updated [16:12:12] and for your work on this generally, of course [16:14:32] sumanah: i'm happy doing it, if it goes in :) but it looks like resistance is dwindling.... [16:15:26] anyway - on March 6, I have plans for the evening. I could attend an IRC meeting, but it would be a bit incvonvenient [16:16:30] 03(mod) Special page for pages without connected items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38603 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:16:31] 03(mod) CSSMin::encodeImageAsDataURI() should be smarter about SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57777 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [16:16:32] 03(mod) CSSMin::encodeImageAsDataURI() should be smarter about SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57777 +comment (10gerritadmin) [16:16:40] 03(mod) Special page for pages without connected items - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38603 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:18:43] 03(mod) Change formatting of dates in Portuguese on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61958 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:18:51] 03(mod) Change formatting of dates in Portuguese on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61958 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:19:06] sumanah: if we want to go for wednesday evening, midnight would be ok, but earlier would be better of course. [16:19:18] DanielK_WMDE blergh, am looking at like http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2014&month=3&day=6&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=37&p3=240 . how can I bribe you to go 1am-1:30am? [16:19:20] 03(mod) Better APNG resizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62146 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [16:19:56] DanielK_WMDE: am trying to figure out how to include Tim because Tim can't start till 10am his time [16:19:57] 03(mod) globecoordinate serialization fails on some precision values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62105 (10Lydia Pintscher) [16:21:08] * sumanah actually looks at the XKCD "now" [16:21:09] https://www.xkcd.com/1335/ [16:23:26] strike that, I mean 11am his time [16:24:03] 03(NEW) SMWSparqlDatabaseError Malformed query order by: Unresolved prefixed name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62150 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; () [16:25:58] DanielK_WMDE: I have checked the methods of includes/filerepo/file/File.php. Using getLocalRefPath() instead of getPath() solves the issue for me... [16:26:08] 03(mod) Detect the edit state to adapt help messages to user errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51660 +easy; +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [16:27:10] ok DanielK_WMDE I've emailed you & TimStarling about it [16:27:17] to ask what might work [16:27:42] 03(mod) Maintenance script checkImages.php does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62148 +comment (10mueller062001-reg) [16:28:10] 03(NEW) Reblocking user removes active autoblock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62151 normal; MediaWiki: User blocking; () [16:30:09] Thanks for being flexible DanielK_WMDE [16:30:28] 03(mod) Reblocking user removes active autoblock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62151 +comment (10bsadowski1wikipedia) [16:30:50] I finally reported this. It happens at enwiki still [16:30:54] It's because of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 [16:31:28] But it shouldn't happen on reblocks (confirming a block change). It should happen only on unblocks. [16:31:41] Gloria ^ [16:31:57] Hello. [16:43:57] Gloria: This is an important bugfix because when someone changes the block options on a wiki, they can just create a new account [16:44:09] (with the same IP of course) [16:44:26] Unless the autoblock IP is stil there but not listed. [16:44:31] * Bsadowski1 shrugs [16:48:52] 03(NEW) Upgrade Ruby to version 2.1.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62152 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [16:49:02] 03(mod) Upgrade Ruby to version 2.1.1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62152 +easy (10Željko Filipin) [16:52:17] Bsadowski1: What do you think the behavior for reblock should be? [17:02:42] hi csteipp! how are you? [17:03:10] Hey sumanah doing ok. Want to do this via irc? Or hangout? [17:03:35] csteipp: I was thinking etherpad + IRC private msg [17:03:40] Sounds good [17:05:30] 03(NEW) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.* files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 minor; MediaWiki: API; () [17:07:21] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.* files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10b) [17:08:16] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.* files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:08:44] 03(mod) Page View stats: validate monthly forecasts fluctuations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46203 summary (10Toby Negrin) [17:10:45] 03(mod) Large drop in historical total active editors numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53118 +comment (10tnegrin) [17:11:03] how do I create a script/bot in python with JavaScript for the frontend (ideally as Wikisouorce gadget). [17:11:59] Set up a Web service, probably. [17:16:33] 03(mod) Implement EntityStore service - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61264 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:18:46] 03(mod) $wgCategoryTreeDynamicTag totally broken displaying no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59798 +comment (10MZMcBride) [17:22:11] qgil: Good morning! I'm surprised you're not yet sat behind me. :) [17:23:29] hi Deskana , ??? [17:23:48] qgil: You're normally in early on Mondays aren't you? [17:23:56] qgil: Deskana = Dan Garry, in case you didn't know. :) [17:24:35] Deskana, I started tot suspect that. :) WFH today and tomorrow [17:24:36] hi Deskana :) hope the flat situation is all sorted :) [17:26:33] 03(mod) Enable zip-files for upload on Wikimedia Sverige wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61947 +comment (10wiki) [17:26:53] qgil: Aha! Have you had a chance to review the OPW project I posted for the IEG thing? Is there anything further I need to do? [17:27:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image frame issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62139 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:28:37] 03(mod) Cannot type anymore after using the lightbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62033 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:28:40] 03(mod) Cannot type anymore after using the lightbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62033 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:29:31] 03(mod) Run yaml linter for mediawiki-selenium job - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56161 +comment (10hashar) [17:30:00] 03(mod) Cannot type anymore after using the lightbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62033 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:30:53] Deskana, I just moved the entry to "Featured projects" so it shows up in the GSoC and OPW pages. A related Bugzilla report would for community discussion and tracking progress would be great. [17:31:09] qgil: Will do. Thanks. :) [17:31:38] 03(mod) Global user contributions (guc aka luxo:) doesn't list MediaWiki.org (mediawikiwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61699 +comment (10b) [17:32:49] hi world .. i d like to display a sample of an article .. i don't find the corrct syntax [17:32:57] do i need a specific extension ? [17:33:02] 03(mod) QUnit test errors are missing in Jenkins short console log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61843 +comment (10hashar) [17:33:12] zechfdf: I don't understand what you're asking or trying to do. [17:33:14] 03(mod) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:33:17] 03(mod) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:34:24] 03(mod) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:34:53] Gloria: in a custum box > http://fpaste.org/81937/93868061/ [17:35:20] sample was not the good word sorry .. i mean summary [17:35:43] on my front page i d like to display a box with a sumamary of a specific article [17:35:54] 03(mod) integration Flow browser tests with Gerrit/Zuul - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61219 +comment (10hashar) [17:36:15] Where is the summary stored? [17:36:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display description for selected and required parameters in transclusion dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62142 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [17:36:41] http://www.wikipci.fr/index.php?title=Bulgarie [17:37:11] i d like to display a summary of this article into the box on my homepage [17:37:13] in a box [17:37:19] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.* files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10bjorsch) [17:37:48] 03(mod) browsertests: triggers for Flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58401 +comment (10hashar) [17:38:33] 03(mod) browsertests: triggers for Flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58401 +comment (10hashar) [17:39:06] 03(mod) run maintenance script to repair EducationProgram summary data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61223 +comment (10greg) [17:39:12] Gloria: http://www.wikipci.fr/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Version [17:40:53] 03(mod) EducationProgram needs tests in Jenkins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56962 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [17:41:19] zechfdf: What do you consider the summary? [17:41:26] zechfdf: You can try transclusion? [17:41:30] Or Labeled Section Transclusion. [17:41:32] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [17:41:33] !transclusion [17:41:33] Transclusion is a general MediaWiki term for including things into a page using double-brace "{{}}" markup. This can be things like templates, pages in other namespaces, variables, output of parser functions, some Special pages, interwiki pages, and such. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Transclusion for an overview. [17:43:27] thanks let me see, in fact im quite lost about mediwiki technical things .. [17:43:54] Gloria: for example this page > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Transclusion is ... ... ned a sample example ... [17:43:58] need [17:44:37] because of specific langages specification (specific char ... & " " é in title .. space in title .. etc etc ) [17:44:46] this make me confuse [17:45:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE -> WT -> VE -> Cancel leaves ?veaction=edit in the URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57901 +comment (10Alex Monk) [17:45:39] zechfdf: I'll make an example. [17:46:04] Gloria: :) [17:46:50] 03(mod) $wgCategoryTreeDynamicTag totally broken displaying no results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59798 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [17:47:38] zechfdf: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zech [17:47:49] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium [17:50:06] Hgreat improvement of my knowledge thanks no yet ok but .. thanks > http://www.wikipci.fr/index.php?title=Accueil (the last box for example ) ( you can modify it if you whant) [17:55:04] 03(mod) Better APNG resizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62146 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [17:55:11] 03(mod) Captcha for user signup is too small on high dpi devices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62016 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:56:32] 03(NEW) "Special:BetaFeatures" should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62154 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: BetaFeatures; () [17:56:37] 03(mod) Reblocking user removes active autoblock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62151 +testme; +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:57:55] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:57:58] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:58:07] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:58:16] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:58:52] 03(mod) Mobile Front End: When creating a new page in mobile view, the cursor is hidden behind top navigation. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62120 +comment (10bingle-admin) [18:00:52] 03(mod) Cannot type anymore after using the lightbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62033 (10Andre Klapper) [18:02:10] 03(mod) "Special:BetaFeatures" should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62154 +easy (10Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)) [18:11:26] 03(NEW) bundle install creates .bundle/install.log file in qa/browsertests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62155 enhancement; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [18:11:29] 03(mod) Add unit tests for GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43654 +comment (10Matthew Flaschen) [18:13:53] 03(mod) Google Books > Internet Archive > Commons upload cycle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57813 +comment (10Rohit Dua) [18:14:52] hello qgil [18:15:04] hi monteirobrena ! [18:15:13] 03(mod) Kindle 3: search for non-existing article lands on broken desktop version of results page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62075 +comment (10jgonera) [18:15:53] monteirobrena, what keeps you busy? :) [18:16:00] qgil: I'm working in sidebar [18:16:05] 03(mod) bundle install creates .bundle/install.log file in qa/browsertests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62155 +comment (10cmcmahon) [18:16:10] monteirobrena, wow, interesting! [18:16:42] Has someone called "robolobster" been around? [18:17:07] qgil: in the realistic mockup, doing in gimp [18:17:19] monteirobrena, good approach [18:18:24] monteirobrena, methinks that perhaps it would be worth taking a screenshot of the current homepage and applying the sidebar design as well, at some point [18:18:47] monteirobrena, as a way to detach the discussion of the homepage revamp and the discussion of the sidebar [18:19:02] monteirobrena, they are related, then again they don't have to (perhaps) [18:19:21] monteirobrena, but no worries, get first a design that makes sense to you in the context of the homepage redesign [18:21:52] qgil: ok ;) [18:21:54] monteirobrena, another idea to focus the discussion, avoid actual labels in your design, fill with Ipsum Lorem, showing direct links, uncollapsed and collapsed [18:22:27] monteirobrena, as suggested at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_redesign/Preview#General_thoughts [18:22:33] monteirobrena: if you do a mokup for the sidebar .. please be aware about non informatic-people [18:22:59] :) [18:23:37] zechfdf, what improvements would you apply in the design the sidebar (not the content, that is a different discussion)? [18:24:31] qgil: color i think . [18:25:23] 03(mod) content is left aligned in rtl wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61867 (10Yuvi Panda) [18:25:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: VE -> WT -> VE -> Cancel leaves ?veaction=edit in the URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57901 (10James Forrester) [18:26:19] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [18:26:29] 03(NEW) set jsub (jstart qcronsub) parameters by environment variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62156 normal; Wikimedia Labs: tools; () [18:27:25] qgil: Hi, wanted to ask do all projects have to be mentioned in gsoc 2014 page, even the ones for which mentor has selected a student, since I heard sumana saying that only one proposal per project is allowed [18:28:01] apsdehal, hi [18:29:39] apsdehal, students are free to present proposals, even if other students are already working on a proposal on the same project. Then again... [18:30:25] apsdehal, if you are not the first student presenting a proposal about a certain project you know that your proposal (including you) needs to be way better. [18:30:55] apsdehal, this will be more difficult if you have the impression (or you have been told) that the mentors are already quite happy with one candidate [18:31:25] Like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Annotation_tool_that_extracts_statements_from_books_and_feed_them_on_Wikidata [18:31:25] I am working on this one with mentors and its not mentioned on gsoc 2014 page [18:31:30] apsdehal, we had students applying for the same project in the past, and afaik it happens quite frequently in GSoC [18:32:28] apsdehal, that proposal says "Mentors: Aubrey is available for mentorship, paired with a technical expert." [18:32:41] apsdehal, is there a technical mentor now? [18:32:57] Yes [18:33:27] I am in regular contact with them, we have also almost prepared a proposal [18:33:46] apsdehal, right, then you know more than me. :) They should update their project proposal and move it to the "Featured projects" section. Then it will appear in the GSoC / OPW pages. [18:34:12] I put it on wikitech for reviews but no one replied. [18:34:15] 03(mod) Settings -> Contacts refers to non-existent page on Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62113 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [18:34:16] 03(mod) Both "App Support" button in App Store & "Contact us" link in Wikipedia app direct to "No such special page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52474 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [18:34:41] apsdehal, I see that there was an update at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57812 -- good [18:35:08] 03(mod) Kindle 3: search for non-existing article lands on broken desktop version of results page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62075 +comment (10axelboldt) [18:35:28] apsdehal, when was that (sorry for my bad memory) [18:35:50] I even put it today, and 10 days ago. [18:36:04] Check for mail from amanpreet.iitr2013@gmail.com [18:36:31] qgil, It would be great if you can help this proposal become a success. [18:37:50] apsdehal, so far you seem to be doing the right steps [18:39:11] 03(mod) BetaFeatures: "Special:BetaFeatures" should work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62154 summary (10James Forrester) [18:39:34] qgil, what further things can be done to make this proposal more good. [18:39:54] I was thinking about expanding and explaining the deliverables section [18:40:15] apsdehal, please ask your mentors to update their project proposal and move it to the "Featured projects" section. Then it will appear in the GSoC / OPW pages. [18:40:26] apsdehal, also, add yourself to the table at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2014#Who_is_interested [18:40:29] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:41:47] apsdehal, have you read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Lessons_learned ? [18:42:05] qgil, sure I will do that. [18:42:15] Gloria: thanks for your help [18:42:25] nice day/night all [18:43:16] Step 1 already done, added myself long time ago [18:43:38] qgil, step 2 also done read it when I came first time on mediawiki [18:46:28] Anything else qgil? [18:46:43] apsdehal, 1 min [18:48:30] apsdehal, I just added an important sentence to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014#Who_is_interested [18:49:11] apsdehal, you must add yourself to the table (I couldn't find you there). It is a good way to get more attention to your project. [18:49:22] 03(mod) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 +comment (10csteipp) [18:49:30] apsdehal, thank you! [18:51:04] monteirobrena, this weekend I tried to find more appropriate pictures for the gallery, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil/Sandbox [18:51:34] qgil Thanks a lot. [18:51:40] monteirobrena, the one with the bug should be cut, if you like it, [18:52:35] monteirobrena, I was looking for images with a) no people :) (since we have too many already) b) public domain or author we know personally c) cleaner bottom for better overlap of label [18:53:05] monteirobrena, I didn't find anything striking for "Support" [18:53:09] so far [18:56:35] qgil: hum, I agree with your points [18:57:02] monteirobrena, good :) [18:57:18] 03(mod) Links in Special:History list go to wrong revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62069 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:57:18] 03(mod) Links in Special:History list go to wrong revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62069 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:58:50] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [19:04:57] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:05:21] rohit-dua: sorry, did you get your question answered? [19:05:51] 03(mod) SVG iframe XSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60771 +comment (10csteipp) [19:06:52] 03(mod) Remove ArticleFeedbackv5 from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61163 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:08:00] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [19:08:07] 03(NEW) Rollback gives MediaWiki:Alreadyrolled-message, when final diff between revisions is none. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62157 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; () [19:08:55] 03(mod) Follow-up to bug 48418: Treat {CREDITS|AUTHORS}.txt files as plaintext, not wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62153 (10James Forrester) [19:11:05] 03(mod) Timing attack on Token - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61346 +comment (10Chris Steipp) [19:11:59] 03(mod) HTML formatter for debug output from API allows HTML injection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61362 +comment (10csteipp) [19:13:47] sumanh: thank you for asking. Well I think I' can make a web-app using python flask and javascript. But I'm not sure how I'll put it on wikisource. [19:13:59] sumanah: thank you for asking. Well I think I' can make a web-app using python flask and javascript. But I'm not sure how I'll put it on wikisource. [19:16:59] 03(mod) Kindle 3: search for non-existing article lands on broken desktop version of results page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62075 +comment (10jrobson) [19:17:09] 03(mod) Remove ArticleFeedbackv5 from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61163 +comment (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [19:18:04] 03(mod) Activate Article Feedback Tool v5 (AFTv5) on fa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51321 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:18:14] 03(mod) Enable Article feedback V5 Extension on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56762 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [19:19:14] 03(mod) Non-admins can see contents of deleted pages when viewing abusefilter details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42734 +comment (10hoo) [19:19:17] 03(mod) Rollback gives MediaWiki:Alreadyrolled-message, when final diff between revisions is none. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62157 +comment (10wiki) [19:20:28] 03(mod) [Android] Section level links only load lead section of new article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61726 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:20:44] 03(mod) Timing attack on Token - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61346 +comment (10mail) [19:21:00] ssh @gerrit.wikimedia.org -p 29418 GIVES Permission denied (publickey) ... any help? [19:21:28] 03(mod) Use Special:Log properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44377 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:22:01] rohit-dua: Why are you trying to ssh into gerrit? [19:22:14] development [19:22:16] patch [19:22:41] rohit-dua: If you're trying to write a patch, sshing into gerrit is not the way to do that. [19:23:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: mw specific code in the model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:23:10] Deskana: Can you guide me any other way [19:23:49] rohit-dua: It's all here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial [19:24:01] 03(mod) Links in Special:History list go to wrong revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62069 (10Jon) [19:24:21] 03(mod) Links in Special:History list go to wrong revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62069 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:25:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Move MW-specific code out of the VE-core model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester) [19:25:37] rohit-dua: The instructions are quite comprehensive. For example, I am not a developer, and I find them easy enough to understand. :) [19:26:50] Deskana: thank you. solved. had some file lpermissions issues [19:30:46] 03(NEW) CirrusSearch: Still can't reindex commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62158 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; () [19:30:51] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Still can't reindex commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62158 (10Nik Everett) [19:31:57] 03(mod) SMWSparqlDatabaseError Malformed query order by: Unresolved prefixed name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62150 +comment (10MWJames) [19:35:25] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Move MW-specific code out of the VE-core model registry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53148 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:36:53] 03(mod) SVG thumbnailing issues - part of the image not rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18463 major->normal; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [19:37:16] Hi qgil , I just now sent a mail to wikitech mailing list regarding my GSoC proposal [19:39:03] hi BPositive , "Proposal for page migration project under the Translate Extension"? [19:39:13] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [19:39:13] 03(mod) Security review for 'Popups' Extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61743 +comment (10csteipp) [19:39:14] qgil, Yes [19:40:44] BPositive, please link to your wiki page proposal from the table at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2014#Who_is_interested -- thank you! [19:40:56] 03(mod) HG3 Build 860 added a lvl 1 warning when one already existed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61933 +comment (10se4598) [19:41:12] qgil, Definitely, I was about to do that :) [19:41:29] 03(mod) Metadata is missing for some images on mw.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62019 (10Andre Klapper) [19:41:41] 03(mod) Automatic home directory creation is apparently broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61899 +comment (10tim) [19:42:01] 03(mod) Private wikis need to override "wikimedia-copyright" message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45767 +comment (10mflaschen) [19:44:34] hi! [19:45:20] 03(NEW) Flow: renderHeader fatal error visiting Flow page without a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62159 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [19:46:45] 03(mod) HG3 Build 860 added a lvl 1 warning when one already existed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61933 (10gladjonatan) [19:47:46] 03(mod) Automatic home directory creation is apparently broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61899 +comment (10MZMcBride) [19:48:57] 03(mod) Flow: renderHeader fatal error visiting Flow page without a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62159 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:48:58] 03(mod) Flow: renderHeader fatal error visiting Flow page without a header - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62159 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:49:33] Anyone know the easiest way I can prevent pywikibot-compat's cosmetic_changes.py from replacing File: with Image: ? [19:49:55] Meiko: There's a setting to disable it. [19:49:57] Somewhere. [19:50:14] Gloria: I figured. I'll look around. [19:50:30] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [19:50:31] It's been years since I used pywikibot. [19:50:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/cosmetic_changes.py - this needs major cleanup .-. [19:53:03] 03(mod) BetaFeatures: "Special:BetaFeatures" should redirect to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62154 summary (10Mark Holmquist) [19:55:50] 03(mod) MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49057 +comment (10mflaschen) [19:59:17] 03(NEW) Style the alias field value differently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62160 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [20:01:10] 03(mod) Automatic home directory creation is apparently broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61899 +comment (10bharris) [20:01:26] 03(mod) MediaViewer confuses different instances of the same image on the same page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62039 +comment (10mtraceur) [20:02:36] 03(mod) BetaFeatures: "Special:BetaFeatures" should redirect to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62154 +comment (10mtraceur) [20:03:14] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Show the "*" mark beside the required parameter in the Add Parameter section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62161 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [20:06:29] 03(mod) operations/puppet's manifests/admins.pp has funky indentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60277 +comment (10Daniel Zahn) [20:07:59] 03(mod) Deploy GuidedTour to cswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60270 (10Matthew Flaschen) [20:15:09] 03(mod) operations/puppet's manifests/admins.pp has funky indentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60277 +comment (10hoo) [20:15:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:15:38] 03(mod) GeoData Error Upon Adding Coordinates to a Page: 1054 Unknown column 'gt_lat_int' in 'field list' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62127 +comment (10oguloncel) [20:16:12] 03(NEW) Bad Flow diff link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62162 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [20:16:52] 03(mod) Remove ArticleFeedbackv5 from Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61163 +comment (10fflorin) [20:24:54] 03(mod) run maintenance script to repair EducationProgram summary data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61223 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [20:30:03] 03(mod) Block reasons should be localized to the language of the blocked user. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62131 +comment (10martineznovo) [20:42:39] 03(mod) UI language code and direction are applied to content in MobileFrontent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61258 +comment (10gerritadmin) [20:42:41] 03(mod) UI language code and direction are applied to content in MobileFrontent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61258 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [20:45:21] Frontent [20:45:52] 03(mod) UI language code and direction are applied to content in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61258 summary (10James Alexander) [20:45:55] yeah, that was bothering me [20:46:06] Ah, thanks. [20:50:02] legoktm: it's 2014 ;) [20:55:01] 03(mod) Kill tabs in operations/puppet's manifests/admins.pp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60277 summary (10MZMcBride) [20:55:09] 03(mod) Collection: credits of images should list only the uploaders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62121 (10Quim Gil) [20:55:11] 03(mod) Collection extension needs some way to credit original authors of a work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28064 (10Quim Gil) [20:56:00] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: The swapping alias set in reindexing is really slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61241 (10Nik Everett) [20:57:50] hi all ! [20:57:52] 03(mod) Progress goes above 1.0% and then jumps back to 1.0% - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36962 +comment (10Quim Gil) [20:57:59] i have a licence problem [20:58:06] lfschenone: Hi there! How can we help? :) [20:58:21] a client wants me to sign a non-disclosure agreement, which to me seems to violate the mediawiki licence [20:58:36] i've developed an extension for mediawiki [20:58:48] and now my client wants me to sign an agreement [20:58:51] lfschenone: A non-disclosure applying to changes to MediaWiki, or just to your extension? [20:59:08] I think neither is a conflict but I want to be able to explain why [20:59:10] just the extension [20:59:13] 'kay [20:59:17] 03(mod) Kill tabs in operations/puppet's manifests/admins.pp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60277 +comment (10dzahn) [20:59:23] lfschenone: Extensions aren't affected by MediaWiki's license [20:59:24] lfschenone: did you copy any code from core or any existing extensions to make that extension? [20:59:31] if you did, then it would be a breach [20:59:36] if you wrote it from scratch, you're fine [20:59:38] Well, not necessarily [20:59:42] MediaWiki is licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, version 2 or later. Derivative works and later versions of the code must be free software licensed under the same or a compatible license. This includes "extensions" that use MediaWiki functions or variables [20:59:49] jackmcbarn: There are other things involved in determining a license violation [20:59:49] 03(mod) VisualEditor: No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 +comment (10James Forrester) [20:59:50] the licence seems to affect extensions [21:00:03] ...huh [21:00:04] no, i did not copy any code [21:00:18] lfschenone: I don't think that's true - can you tell me where you found that explanation? [21:00:27] in the licence [21:00:31] distributed with mediawiki [21:00:33] first paragraph [21:00:38] LICENCE file [21:00:43] sorry [21:00:47] COPYING file [21:00:51] OK that's definitely wrong [21:01:16] Because if we can have MIT licensed extensions I'm pretty damn sure we can have nonfree ones [21:01:52] are you very sure rdwrer ? if its so wrong, it must have bypassed the eyes of a lot of people [21:02:06] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Cannot add any categories in any page in Betalabs since the textbox is not getting selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [21:02:43] lfschenone: Not really - the COPYING file isn't super heavily used by most of us [21:02:59] okey .. [21:03:01] now wait [21:03:13] what bugs me about the agreement im expected to sign [21:03:24] is that i'll be unable to post my extension at mediawiki.org [21:03:32] James_F: Have you looked at the licensing situation around MediaWiki and the sentence above in particular? I imagine it was part of your move to MIT in VE. [21:03:56] lfschenone: That doesn't surprise me, private companies often want to hide their code [21:04:06] Hey. [21:04:09] my* code [21:04:18] lol [21:04:21] We moved to MIT so that down-stream re-users didn't have to freak out about GPL. [21:04:24] lfschenone: Well, they're commissioning it [21:04:36] In retrospect, we should have picked Apache, apparently. [21:04:36] hah ok, lets not get offtrack [21:04:38] Oh well. [21:04:54] so it is within law [21:04:55] lfschenone: You could try to convince them to be better, or tell them you won't work with them if you have to sign, or something else [21:05:00] to ask me to sign such an agreement? [21:05:04] lfschenone: But the GPL doesn't help you here, I think. [21:05:18] ok .. you agree James_F ? [21:05:50] lfschenone: MW extensions can be incompatibly-licensed, but it's not great. [21:05:57] The thing is, I don't think the above statement in COPYING has any legal teeth [21:06:08] lfschenone: However, changes to MW itself definitely can't be. [21:06:10] I should probably ask a lawyer [21:06:26] James_F: But if the client is the only person running the code, the NDA would still be legal [21:06:29] Well. [21:06:42] No, lies, because lfschenone was running the code and needs to be able to distribute copies [21:06:52] rdwrer: Is internal distribution not distribution? [21:07:05] It is, but they wouldn't distribute it, they'd run the code on a server [21:07:17] So *JS* code changes are a different story [21:07:26] Indeed. [21:07:28] (Yay fun.) [21:07:33] Woohoo licensing [21:07:35] most of the extension is JS [21:09:06] anyway .. so the agreement does not seem to breach the MW licence .. right ? [21:09:22] i can try to talk them out of it, but i probably wont because they arent that kind of people [21:09:31] so i have just one more question [21:09:47] if i modify the code enough, i may upload it ? [21:09:52] its quite a handy extension XD [21:09:57] lfschenone: Personally I hope you don't sign the agreement [21:10:06] yea im considering it [21:10:14] But if you do, I think you're bound by it to not distribute derivatives [21:10:27] lfschenone: Anything more, you shouldn't talk about for fear of the NDA, IMO. [21:10:27] ah, derivatives, right [21:11:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Cannot add any categories in any page in Betalabs since the textbox is not getting selected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 +comment (10Moriel Schottlender) [21:12:12] if i sign the agreement, my situation would be analogous to that of ghost writers, right ? [21:12:29] lfschenone: To an extent, maybe [21:12:44] okey [21:12:50] thanks for your help rdwrer [21:13:02] lfschenone: Honestly the appropriate step here isn't an NDA, but copyright assignment. Maybe suggest that to them if they don't go for changes. [21:13:21] 03(mod) MediaWiki::RestInPeace not called if exception thrown, including ErrorPageError subclasses, resulting in db writes being thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62091 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:13:23] 03(mod) MediaWiki::RestInPeace not called if exception thrown, including ErrorPageError subclasses, resulting in db writes being thrown away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62091 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:13:37] 03(NEW) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 enhancement; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [21:13:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 normal->04CRIT; summary; +comment (10James Forrester) [21:13:52] i see [21:13:56] well thanks again [21:13:59] afk now, but i'll leave the chat on just in case [21:14:01] My pleasure [21:14:11] lfschenone: Parting words - #fsf is good for this stuff [21:14:31] 03(mod) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 (10gigamunk.wp.bugzilla) [21:14:40] 03(mod) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 (10gigamunk.wp.bugzilla) [21:14:41] 03(mod) Please upload 9 Video Files > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53989 (10gigamunk.wp.bugzilla) [21:17:05] 03(NEW) Flow: garbled and generic "Internal error - {{SITENAME}}" for Flow error page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62165 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [21:18:15] 03(mod) Rollback gives MediaWiki:Alreadyrolled-message, when final diff between revisions is none. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62157 +comment (10Umherirrender) [21:23:05] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: The swapping alias set in reindexing is really slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61241 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:23:07] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: The swapping alias set in reindexing is really slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61241 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:31:18] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: add timeouts for searches and for searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62079 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:31:42] 03(mod) Oracle installation fails on creation of mainpage (column PAGE.PAGE_LINKS_UPDATED missing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61015 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:31:43] 03(mod) Oracle installation fails on creation of mainpage (column PAGE.PAGE_LINKS_UPDATED missing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61015 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:33:47] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: add timeouts for searches and for searches - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62079 (10Nik Everett) [21:34:46] 03(mod) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 +shell (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [21:38:16] 03(NEW) Collection won't process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62166 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; () [21:38:38] 03(mod) Collection won't process - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62166 +i18n (10Quim Gil) [21:45:01] 03(mod) Security review for 'Popups' Extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61743 (10Chris Steipp) [21:46:14] 03(mod) Flow: garbled and generic "Internal error - {{SITENAME}}" for Flow error page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62165 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:46:15] 03(mod) Flow: garbled and generic "Internal error - {{SITENAME}}" for Flow error page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62165 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:47:50] 03(mod) Slight drop in zero requests around 2014-02-08 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61274 (10christian) [21:51:08] 03(NEW) Browsing through previous/next images breaks Back button in browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62167 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MultimediaViewer; () [21:52:02] 03(NEW) Puppetize all of tin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62168 normal; Wikimedia: Deployment systems; () [21:56:45] 03(NEW) Click 'full screen' icon reduces image size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62169 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MultimediaViewer; () [22:11:31] 03(mod) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 (10Andre Klapper) [22:13:58] 03(mod) Puppetize all of tin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62168 +comment (10bdavis) [22:18:30] 03(mod) Puppetize all of tin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62168 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:19:07] 03(mod) logmsgbot: Automatically log git-deploy actions to Server admin log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61997 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:19:46] 03(mod) UnboundLocalError: local variable 'status' referenced before assignment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60068 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:20:33] 03(mod) sync of integration/slave-scripts has minions stuck pending - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60891 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:21:13] 03(mod) Implement a custom Package provider for Trebuchet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59931 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:21:47] 03(mod) provide a way to list active tag on all minions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60893 (10Greg Grossmeier) [22:24:12] rdwrer: hi [22:24:16] Hi! [22:24:36] 03(NEW) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [22:24:44] so my question is about the proper way to include resources, specifically in this case moment.js, which was recently added to core [22:24:51] Aha. [22:25:03] pizzzacat: So you have a parser function, right? [22:25:06] I had assumed it was automatic, since it's "included in core" [22:25:10] yes [22:25:52] it's going to go into my $wgResourceModules under 'dependencies' yes? [22:25:53] pizzzacat: It's in core, but only really as a dependency that you can load if you need it [22:25:56] That's right [22:26:08] 03(mod) QUnit test errors are missing in Jenkins short console log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61843 +comment (10gtisza) [22:26:37] 03(mod) Toggling between desktop and mobile misbehaves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61400 (10Jon) [22:26:41] ok. so is there an external place to point, or am I to somehow include the module in my extension directory? [22:26:56] pizzzacat: Putting in "moment" should load it without anything else [22:27:32] pizzzacat: ResourceLoader will know you mean the momentjs library in core [22:27:42] oh, perfect. would you happen to know where the documentation relevant to this question would be located, for my reference (and for future module loading/to see what's available)? [22:28:01] great. I'm not familiar with the mappings so the documentation should set me straight. [22:28:12] Hm. [22:28:29] yeah. [22:28:41] I know the info is out there somewhere, I just can't seem to locate it. [22:28:59] 03(mod) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 normal->15enhancement (10Dan Garry) [22:29:12] 03(mod) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 +comment (10sam) [22:29:15] pizzzacat: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Registering for the first part ("I need to register a module") [22:29:38] pizzzacat: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Default_modules has a (maybe incomplete) list of modules [22:30:03] 03(mod) Language bar percentages are off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47864 +comment (10Eduard.Braun2) [22:30:04] pizzzacat: I think Resources.php in core may be your best bet at any given time [22:30:11] yeah, I search 'moment' and nothing comes up [22:30:33] ok. I'll take a look after this meeting. thanks a bunch for your help! [22:33:38] 03(mod) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 +comment (10MZMcBride) [22:34:00] ...weird [22:34:08] 03(mod) UI language code and direction are applied to content in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61258 (10Jon) [22:34:20] pizzzacat: You may have a slightly old version of core, try updating? [22:34:36] 03(mod) UI language code and direction are applied to content in MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61258 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:37:15] 03(mod) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 +comment (10dgarry) [22:37:17] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Still can't reindex commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62158 (10Nik Everett) [22:38:25] Deskana: I wasn't suggesting Bryan do it, BTW. [22:38:28] Not sure if that was clear. [22:38:39] I was just saying you could probably crib his code, maybe. [22:38:48] Gloria: That was clear to me, no worries. :) [22:38:56] GSoC would need a mentor. [22:39:21] Two probably. You and someone to do the code review. [22:39:48] Gloria: Bryan's agreed to that already. :) [22:39:55] Ah, nice. [22:40:19] There was a grand idea that Flow would handle things like htis. [22:40:19] this [22:40:22] Siko's also agreed to provide input as the end user of this in her work on IEG. [22:40:29] Is this private data? [22:40:49] AFAIK it is nonpublic, but not "private". [22:41:10] I guess I'm wondering from where these users would like to be able to do this review work. [22:41:14] From Meta-Wiki? [22:44:12] 03(mod) provide a way to list active tag on all minions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60893 +comment (10rlane32) [22:46:16] 03(mod) Create a proposal review system for IEG and other applications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62170 +comment (10dgarry) [22:47:52] Gloria: Siko suggested a standalone thing like the Wikimania Scholarships application. [22:48:12] Hmmmm. [22:48:30] I have this vision of having nine different application mini-sites in short order. [22:48:55] I haven't looked at the Wikimania Scholarship application. [22:49:04] But perhaps it's abstract(able) enough to work. [22:50:21] Gloria: Bryan indicated that it is "configurably hard-coded". :) [22:50:32] 03(NEW) Can't edit https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/HR_Corner/Massage_Signups#Standby_list with VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62171 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [22:50:39] Gloria: Scholarships shows a very basic process that could be abstracted given some more time/resources. [22:51:42] The idea being that adding some abstraction is possible with some modification to the current code-base without making the relevant engineer want to commit seppuku. [22:51:45] 03(mod) Android Dev version: changing to landscape mode I lose my position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61512 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:51:46] 03(mod) Android Dev version: changing to landscape mode I lose my position - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61512 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [22:51:53] hey PleaseStand hope you're doing well [22:52:08] There is a smallish set of core features needed that a product could be built around that would be useful to IEG. Whether or not those features would be useful for others I think is an open question. [22:54:25] 03(mod) Create a new, nice logo for Parsoid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56656 +comment (10Connor Shea) [22:57:26] 03(mod) Blocked users can change state of translations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61806 +comment (10salvadorense) [23:01:38] Do I have to use $dbr->freeResult( $res ); every I run a query? [23:04:06] 03(mod) Can't edit https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/HR_Corner/Massage_Signups#Standby_list with VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62171 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:04:09] 03(mod) Can't edit https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/HR_Corner/Massage_Signups#Standby_list with VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62171 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:11:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Getting "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" error when I open a page that contains a bullet list with floated content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62022 (10ryasmeen) [23:13:06] Subfader: Not usually. ResultWrappers free themselves [23:13:17] You only need it in cases where you're doing many queries in a loop [23:13:27] Which in most cases is something you shouldn't be doing anyway [23:15:28] Alright, struggling with mysql overloading after some hours since I use memcached [23:15:48] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Trying to un-bullet a bulleted line containing only floated content makes the browser completely unresponsive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58060 (10ryasmeen) [23:16:45] Cheers! [23:19:51] 03(mod) Special:UserProfile link to Desktop is mis-directing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58566 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:26:52] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 +comment (10Roan Kattouw) [23:27:18] 03(mod) Bugzilla should have a nice logo that is in keeping with the rest of our logo suite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49460 +comment (10nicereddy1) [23:27:58] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:27:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:28:06] 03(mod) MediaWiki doesn't work with VMWare provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59904 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [23:32:01] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:32:33] 03(mod) MediaWiki vagrant doesn't work with VMWare Fusion provider - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59904 summary (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [23:33:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add a tooltip to the page menu button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61892 (10ryasmeen) [23:35:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 +comment (10James Forrester) [23:35:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-1.23wmf17] Cannot select input boxes inside dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62163 (10James Forrester) [23:38:07] 03(mod) Special:UserProfile link to Desktop is mis-directing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58566 (10Jon) [23:40:57] 03(mod) Mobile frontend Uploader doesn't give error message on error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62034 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:41:14] 03(mod) LESS CSS compiler errors should be logged somewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62081 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [23:41:27] 03(mod) [Regression]: VisualEditor broken on private wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62171 normal->major; summary (10James Forrester) [23:41:36] 03(mod) Mobile frontend Uploader doesn't give error message on error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62034 (10Jon) [23:47:19] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Getting "Your edit may have been corrupted – please review before saving" message frequently in Betalabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62172 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [23:50:31] 03(mod) Please upload a Video File > 500 MiB on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62164 +comment (10Marius Hoch) [23:53:47] 03(mod) Oracle installation fails on creation of mainpage (column PAGE.PAGE_LINKS_UPDATED missing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61015 +comment (10gerritadmin)