[00:00:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Getting "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getOffset' of null" error when I open a page that contains a bullet list with floated content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62022 (10ryasmeen) [00:01:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add a tooltip to the page menu button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61892 (10ryasmeen) [00:01:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Add a tooltip to the page menu button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61892 (10ryasmeen) [00:04:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Display description for selected and required parameters in transclusion dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62142 (10ryasmeen) [00:05:04] 03(mod) VisualEditor: DM(?) should be agnostic about tables ending with trailing new line ( |- \n |} ). Currently pawns are added by CE. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53214 summary (10James Forrester) [00:05:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Selecting border in Media Settings>Advanced Settings does not add any value to the image type field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61155 (10ryasmeen) [00:06:03] 03(NEW) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 normal; MobileFrontend: stable; () [00:10:13] 03(mod) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 +comment (10bingle-admin) [00:12:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] TypeError: this.typeInput.getSelectedItem(...) is null appearing and cannot close the Media Settings dialog for an image with left position and border format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62024 (10ryasmeen) [00:13:55] 03(mod) Problem with getMobileToken in MobileContext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62614 summary; +comment (10Jon) [00:24:45] 03(mod) Architecture/Performance Review for 'Popups' extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61742 +comment (10Ori Livneh) [00:36:19] 03(mod) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:36:20] 03(mod) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [00:38:54] How is the maked this change https://sh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korisnik:Jaxxes&action=history ? [00:45:30] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Getting "Your edit may have been corrupted – please review before saving" message when page contains gallery/formula - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62172 (10ryasmeen) [00:45:48] 03(NEW) Files missing from mediawiki 1.19.13 release tarball - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62631 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [00:50:18] @notify robolobster [00:50:18] I'll let you know when I see robolobster around here [00:54:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Phantoms showing in top left corner for no-longer visible objects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61390 (10ryasmeen) [00:55:56] Kolega2357: what did you want? [00:56:00] I lost it [00:56:35] How you make edit global user page for other user? [00:57:01] I just used the same script [00:57:19] Kolega2357: what was the shwiki bug? [00:58:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56169 [01:00:17] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Inspector flickers and flashes continuously when resizing window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62632 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [01:01:03] 03(mod) Add index on revision user data for contributions lookup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62620 (10Sean Pringle) [01:01:05] 03(mod) Adjust the flow_tree_descendant_id_revisions index overhead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62617 (10Sean Pringle) [01:01:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inspector flickers and flashes continuously when resizing window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62632 +comment (10krinklemail) [01:02:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Highlights, resize handles, etc. not repositioned on window resize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55789 +comment (10krinklemail) [01:02:11] Kolega2357: you mean just for shwiki, or for all sh projects? [01:02:29] 21<pirsquared>21 Kolega2357: you mean just for shwiki, or for all sh projects? only sh wiki [01:02:36] okay [01:03:15] 03(mod) [Interlanguage links] Default languages shown for an Italian user can be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62346 (10Nemo) [01:03:45] 03(mod) MultimediaViewer: Image in fullscreen viewer gets displaced after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57633 summary; +comment (10Krinkle) [01:04:58] Kolega2357: do you have a gerrit account? [01:05:11] No [01:05:32] 03(mod) Rename two indexes in the Echo extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49593 major->minor (10Sean Pringle) [01:05:48] or an account on wikitech.wikimedia.org? [01:07:02] ^ Kolega2357 [01:07:36] ^ Kolega2357 Done? [01:07:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Highlights, resize handles, etc. not repositioned on window resize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55789 (10James Forrester) [01:08:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Inspector flickers and flashes continuously when resizing window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62632 (10James Forrester) [01:08:16] hi world i m trying to install Extension:LoopFunctions https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions i added [01:08:21] require_once( "$IP/extensions/LoopFunctions/LoopFunctions.php" ); in config file [01:08:28] but i get a blank page [01:08:39] thanks for any advice [01:12:15] did you run update.php, aaz? [01:12:41] actually not but it is a recent version of mediawiki let me check [01:13:07] MediaWiki 1.22.2 [01:13:30] 03(mod) Running vagrant git-update does not update remote branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62627 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:13:31] 03(mod) Running vagrant git-update does not update remote branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62627 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [01:13:57] aaz: I mean, run "php maintenance/update.php" [01:14:01] from shell [01:14:20] 03(mod) add wb_property_info table on tool labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56180 +comment (10springle) [01:14:23] no ! let me do this [01:14:24] If that doesn't fix it, you can enable error reporting by adding this to LocalSettings: [01:14:28] error_reporting( E_ALL ); ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 ); [01:14:32] thanks ! [01:14:56] that should give debug info [01:16:56] Fatal error: Call to a member function addMessages() on a non-object in /srv/data/web/vhosts/www.wikipci.fr/htdocs/extensions/LoopFunctions/LoopFunctions.php on line 45 (i have not yet ran update.php) [01:17:19] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 +comment (10gerritadmin) [01:17:21] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [01:17:33] Kolega2357: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118654/ [01:17:48] thanks [01:17:53] please check, comment inline, review (+/- 1) [01:18:21] or just add a comment [01:38:22] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 +comment (10pirsquared17) [01:38:32] Kolega2357: ^ [01:41:14] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 +comment (10kolega2357) [02:09:50] Hi robolobster. [02:10:03] hi pirsquared! [02:10:12] probably formerly known as huh! [02:10:20] Yep, that's me. :) [02:10:21] cool alias, huh! [02:10:31] pi day [02:10:32] I'm back from a night out of silliness. How are you? [02:10:42] I'm fine, thank you [02:11:02] Do you need help with anything? [02:11:36] Well I have a problematic ex but I'm not sure that falls under the purview of mediawiki [02:12:23] Sorry silly joke :D I need to figure out how to get your hook to not edit existing pages [02:12:38] The $title->exists() didn't work? [02:12:44] are you sure? [02:12:45] pirsquared, after you left I noticed that it still did edit existing ones [02:13:17] Yes, I am positive. What I'm not 100% certain about is if my reverting the hook's edits triggered them again. [02:13:44] hmmmmm [02:14:19] maybe multiple jobs are being created for one title [02:14:24] Oh btw! [02:14:26] I forgot tosay! [02:14:31] Maybe it did work [02:14:54] the line you gave me. The reason I think that is that the existing pages that were being edited by the hook still had the old signature that you wrote! [02:15:00] oh [02:15:02] Not the one including the template with the backlinks [02:15:11] So that means that they were still being created by the original code! [02:15:27] Probably once the job is launched, it will keep on creating pages until it's "done" (if that is even possible) [02:16:06] Sorry I forgot to mention that. Silly night indeed. [02:16:34] Maybe, probably, your fix works. [02:16:52] it might break if multiple jobs are created for one page [02:17:07] did you try just doing the edit instead of creating a job? [02:17:11] Is there a way to tell if there are jobs running? It was very slow (1 page created every 12 minutes, sometimes) so it might still be on [02:17:24] You have shell access? [02:17:32] pirsquared, I don't know how to create a job [02:17:44] You have shell access? [02:17:46] I think so pirsquared, this version is running on my laptop [02:17:58] run "php maintenance/showJobs.php" [02:18:09] in mw directory? [02:18:15] yes [02:18:23] you may need to sudo; idk [02:18:43] 0 [02:18:45] Zero [02:19:03] then no jobs are running/waiting [02:19:04] You don't need sudo. [02:19:08] Nice! [02:19:40] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 +comment (10gerritadmin) [02:20:00] ^ Kolega2357 that's for you [02:20:32] Kolega2357: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118656/1/languages/messages/MessagesSh.php <- this is for core [02:21:08] One thing's for sure... there are no red links pirsquared :) [02:21:27] all is ok [02:21:29] and good [02:21:30] In the entire wiki [02:21:35] Kolega2357: you can +1 or comment [02:21:47] robolobster: special:wantedpages shows nothing? [02:22:06] Gloria: is it ever a good idea to edit directly instead of creating a job? [02:22:07] 03(mod) Enable automatic AbuseFilter blocking on eswikivoyage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62321 +comment (10LlamaAl) [02:22:09] If so, when? [02:22:22] pirsquared: Edit directly what? [02:22:23] pirsquared, Wanted pages shows 5 pages [02:22:31] Shoot. Sorry. [02:22:43] I overlooked that, by not knowing it existed :) [02:23:22] MediaWiki has many little-known features [02:23:35] like the image url whitelist ... [02:23:49] what does that mean? whitelist [02:23:53] never mind [02:24:09] actually, is that an extension? [02:24:12] Anyhow, for some reason those pages were not created [02:24:23] robolobster: well, ... were they linked? [02:24:32] since you added the hook [02:25:06] Now that I look at them... I don't think I've ever created those links... [02:25:25] They're : Mercurial, Propval, SVN, Template:Event series and Template:Institution data [02:25:33] Who are these people? :) [02:27:01] maybe you imported them? [02:29:53] robolobster: anything else? [02:30:13] That's all, just those 5 [02:30:47] pirsquared, as much as I want to stay, I'm afraid I should go... it's 3.30 a.m. here [02:30:59] Good night, robolobster. [02:31:02] Hopefully we can continue tomorrow, if you like [02:31:15] Again thanks for all the guidance and help :) [02:31:16] if I'm around [02:31:19] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10aklapper) [02:31:20] bye [02:31:20] If you're around :) [02:31:28] Bye pirsquared! [02:31:33] Bye! [02:32:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: MediaWiki used between text nodes should render block instead of inline-block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62609 summary (10Andre Klapper) [03:00:49] 03(mod) Simultaneous Modification of Multiple Pages with Semantic Forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61989 +comment (10Pawan Seerwani) [03:52:57] What are exemplary APIs, in your opinion? Associated with Wikimedia or not. [03:56:23] *API libraries [03:56:26] For MediaWiki, right? [03:56:28] ah [03:59:37] I'm working on this OPW project proposal: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Evaluating_MediaWiki_web_API_client_libraries [04:00:13] define OPW [04:00:24] 03(mod) Create an API for Extension:ShortURL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36520 +comment (10daniel) [04:00:34] Outreach Program for Women; like Summer of Code, but you don't have to be a student [04:00:37] hey there fhocutt_ :) [04:00:45] * fhocutt_ waves [04:00:49] ah, ok [04:02:13] fhocutt_: I suppose you are going to answer that question yourself, then [04:02:29] no? [04:02:49] Hmmm, interesting [04:02:54] I'm looking for what more experienced people think are good examples so I have something to evaluate against [04:04:37] or bad examples! Both help. [04:04:39] Interestingly enough, fhocutt_, I recently had reason to ask a similar question of a pal -- I asked what API documentation he particularly thought was well structured and complete. He mentioned the Google Drive, YouTube, and Android API docs [04:05:07] thanks! I will take a look at those. [04:05:22] 03(NEW) Jenkins: Set up perceptual diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62633 normal; Wikimedia: Continuous integration; () [04:06:09] I think API libraries are a bit like colleges, in that people often just find one and then don't transfer :) and thus it's hard to compare [04:06:10] 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up perceptual diffs (visual regression testing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62633 normal->15enhancement; summary (10Krinkle) [04:07:07] 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up perceptual diffs (visual regression testing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62633 +comment (10krinklemail) [04:07:25] Example: in my one and only Twitter bot, I used https://github.com/bear/python-twitter the python-twitter wrapper around the Twitter API. I did this basically because it's what Leonard uses and so I knew I could get help with it. Are other Python libraries for interacting with the Twitter API better? Could be! [04:07:33] but I am reluctant to try another [04:07:43] right, if you know this one [04:08:42] Also, a good library sort of disappears into the background in some ways, as good tools do, and might be hard to remember [04:09:14] * fhocutt_ nods [04:12:17] so, fhocutt_ I have some good news - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Evaluate_MediaWiki_web_API_client_libraries now has not just 1 co-mentor, but three people who have agreed to help me and help you :-) [04:15:06] that's fantastic, sumanah! [04:16:52] fhocutt_: Yes! One of them (the listed co-mentor) is an old colleague of mine, longtime FLOSS contributor, has been a GSoC mentor in the past I believe. Is not currently that much in the Wikimedia community and I think thus has a good perspective on what non-Wikimedia developers want from the MediaWiki API. [04:16:57] fhocutt_: That's Tollef. [04:17:00] Hey sumanah [04:17:04] Hello pirsquared. [04:17:06] what's up here? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17 [04:17:15] I'll take a look. [04:17:21] surely a major bug [04:17:22] great! Sounds like a good match, then. [04:17:23] Oh gosh. [04:17:32] greg-g: hey, check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17 ? [04:17:44] pirsquared: that sounds quite bad. Have you already filed a bug report? [04:17:53] not yet [04:18:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sumanah works. I wonder why. [04:18:05] wasn't 1.23wmf18 deployed today? [04:18:15] or was it wmf17? [04:18:20] (to group 0) [04:18:40] pirsquared: I see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version "1.23wmf18 (3ebd53e)" [04:18:55] Should I file a bug? [04:19:04] pirsquared: Yes. Please do. [04:19:13] What component? [04:19:14] :/ [04:19:26] pirsquared: I'm not sure. MediaWiki / General or similar. We'll route it to the right place. [04:19:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap says Group 0 was today, including mediawiki.org [04:19:51] pirsquared: what'd you do?!?!?! ;) [04:20:06] wmf18 was today to mw.org [04:20:16] greg-g: thank you for being online far too late in the evening. [04:20:20] indeed ;) [04:20:33] pirsquared: cc me on the bug (greg@wikimedia.org0 [04:20:36] 03(NEW) Internal error (MWException) on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [04:20:36] s/0/)/ [04:20:40] * greg-g opens [04:20:48] CC'd [04:20:53] fhocutt_: Greg is the release manager for Wikimedia Foundation, managing deployments onto our site. Thus he's one of the people authorized to raise hell if a big error shows up. [04:21:02] :) [04:21:12] (Well, beyond the hell all of us are authorized to raise!) [04:21:24] :D [04:21:29] greg-g: I could check my contributions with SQL query or something, if needed [04:21:56] but I hope someone else can figure it out [04:22:14] pirsquared: it might be worth skimming https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/wmf18 the list of what changed, to see if anything sounds likely. I'll start looking now, but maybe you could also skim? [04:22:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17?limit=1 works [04:22:32] * fhocutt_ wanders off to read all the things [04:22:36] pirsquared: it's somethign with flow, ^d is pasting a stacktrace [04:22:38] "git #3525bc5 - Give links to a user's suppressed edits on Special:Contribs (bug 59120)" [04:22:53] "git #db9e404 - Contributions from Flow appear in every namespace (bug 61107, bug 61107)" [04:23:02] those are likely suspects, yeah sumanah [04:23:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Quiddity [04:23:14] 03(mod) Internal error (MWException) on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10Chad H.) [04:23:25] and mayyyybe git #fc20c30 - ChangesListSpecialPage: Separate all functionality for generating feeds [04:23:29] yep, quiddity, who does things with flow [04:24:37] sumanah, greg-g, thanks [04:24:45] 03(mod) Internal error (MWException) on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [04:24:50] Also Chad (what nick?) [04:25:07] ^d: [04:25:18] oh ;) [04:25:20] ok, bed tme [04:25:22] pirsquared: Thank YOU for reporting this so quickly! [04:25:22] +i [04:25:33] I'll follow up tomorrow [04:25:35] g'night [04:25:46] sumanah: your contribs are still working [04:25:53] even though you did flow stuff [04:26:08] pirsquared: yeah, I noticed that. So it's not just "have you ever commented in Flow" as the differentiator. Maybe something deeper [04:26:42] have you suppressed/been supressed? :) [04:26:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17?limit=33 works [04:26:50] but https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PiRSquared17?limit=34 doesn't [04:26:56] greg-g: I honestly don't know [04:27:01] * greg-g shrugs [04:27:02] it's possible [04:27:04] mostly guessing [04:27:13] ok, bed for realz [04:27:27] not worried unless it sits all weekend like this :) [04:27:47] this is pretty annoying [04:27:54] yeah, it is, agree [04:28:03] I'll poke people in office tomorrow [04:28:10] pirsquared: we have marked it as pretty high priority [04:28:17] okay, thanks [04:29:22] fhocutt_: ok, I'll continue and tell you about the other two people who I think will sort of be on point to advise on stuff :-) Brad Jorsch is a longtime Wikipedian and MediaWiki developer who now works for Wikimedia Foundation. He has contributed to the API itself so he'll be able to answer questions about how it works -- and about how we'll be changing it, as he's one of the people working on the proposal to revamp it [04:29:54] Tollef, I should have mentioned, lives in Europe -- Norway I think -- while Brad, like me, lives on North America's east coast. Just so you have a sense of time zone stuff. [04:30:32] ok. I may overlap with Tollef at night, and you both in the evening [04:30:52] though I can shuffle my schedule to coordinate better [04:31:14] working now? [04:31:16] huh? [04:31:33] so if there are API changes coming, having documentation in order would be a Good Thing. [04:31:53] fhocutt_: And then there's Merlijn van Deen, a volunteer who's one of the maintainers of pywiki, formerly Pywikipediabot and a.k.a. Pywikibot https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot . He's a longtime Wikimedian and I think primarily a Python developer, and he is Dutch I believe and lives in Europe. Pywikibot is most attuned to the needs of Wikimedians so he provides that perspective [04:32:19] great. [04:33:12] fhocutt_: Right. So among the three of them, you can get questions answered about the API itself, about what Wikimedians need or expect, and what non-Wikimedia developers need or expect. [04:33:31] that sounds like a nicely balanced team. [04:34:31] fhocutt_: And of course you'll also get opinions and thoughts from other people! But I figured that with me as sort of your close-to-home coach, videochatting every day if that works, and Tollef as your co-mentor, and then Merlijn and Brad as subject matter experts who have agreed to sort of be on call with mostly 1- to 2-business-day response time, you won't have anything fall through the cracks [04:34:38] 03(mod) Internal error (MWException) on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10pirsquared17) [04:35:04] I really want you not just to succeed but to, honestly, feel more supported and nurtured than you did in grad school [04:35:11] (not sure what emoticon to use there!) [04:35:21] Thank you so much. [04:35:54] fhocutt_: OK! and before I babble much more: have you turned on logging in your IRC client so you can refer to these notes later? [04:36:27] ahh. Let me look through xchat's settings... [04:37:08] now I have! [04:37:09] Settings, Preferences, Chatting, Logging [04:37:11] Cool [04:37:43] That's one of the reasons I want to work on this--active support structures. [04:37:48] Also in xchat settings, in Interface, in Input Box, you can turn on "last-spoke order" which I love for nick completion [04:38:22] sumanah, excellent. Done. [04:38:32] fhocutt_: YES. Way less "oops, wrong person" pinging. [04:39:10] OK! So, you may find it helpful to save a local copy of http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20140314.txt - the log of our conversation before you turned on logging. [04:39:48] got it. Thanks. [04:40:00] Cool. So, the deal with the API changes. [04:40:11] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_roadmap has the most recent draft of the suggested changes. [04:40:59] got it. [04:41:27] We discuss the API on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api and we announce big changes to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce . [04:42:30] I think I'm signed up for both of those. [04:42:38] fhocutt_: We talk on mailing lists a lot in Wikimedia-world, as with many open source projects. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview#MediaWiki_and_technical is an overview of many important ones. [04:42:40] Oh cool! [04:42:54] yep. [04:43:36] fhocutt_: you may have already read my post http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2014/02/26/0 about wikis, mailing lists, and IRC, but I think you've been in hacker/maker communities long enough to know their rhythms already. [04:43:59] wikis and MLs yes, IRC no [04:44:26] fhocutt_: As far as I am aware, there's no IRC channel devoted to the MediaWiki API specifically. I could be wrong though. [04:44:57] #mediawiki-api is registered, but nobody is there [04:45:05] except ChanServ [04:45:47] Got it [04:45:56] so, no *actively used* channel I think :) [04:46:04] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +code-update-regression; summary (10Krinkle) [04:46:27] ok. [04:47:33] sumanah: When is the last day for the mentors to sign up in melange ? [04:47:34] fhocutt_: the MediaWiki community has been thinking about overhauling the API for some time. I honestly do not know the timeline but I know it won't probably happen before June 30 because it's not in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2013-14_Goals [04:47:42] tonythomas: I'm sorry, I don't know! Ask Quim? [04:48:02] https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 [04:48:03] he's not around I suppose [04:48:23] tonythomas: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor - 07:00 UTC on 18 April, says that page. [04:48:26] tonythomas: he does respond to email :-) [04:48:41] tonythomas: Ask in #gsoc or #melange? [04:48:49] sumanah: that looks good :) I will ask. Thanks [04:48:59] Niharika: Yeah! I will [04:50:17] And the API redesign wasn't in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_MediaWiki_Core_Team/Quarterly_review,_January_2014 either. OK. [04:50:45] so, work with the API/libraries we have, prioritize developer responsiveness as a criterion, and write good specs? [04:51:30] fhocutt_: Yes, I think so. [04:52:11] fhocutt_: I'll ask some relevant people whether the API overhaul is likely to happen before the end of your internship :) (but I find it unlikely) [04:52:30] great. [04:53:25] so, fhocutt_, you may have asked the question: why have specific client libraries for a particular application, instead of simply using "interact with any web API" libraries or modules or gems or whatever for your programming language? Like, why use mwclient or pywikibot for your Python tool that does something with Wikipedia data, instead of using requests? [04:53:55] fhocutt_: Perhaps you already have an answer. (Or want clarification on this rhetorical question.) (Which I shall answer!) [04:54:08] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10pirsquared17) [04:54:49] 03(mod) Deploy repo has two invalid json files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62490 +comment (10Arlo Breault) [04:55:11] huh. What is the difference between requests and having a designated library? [04:55:29] Aha! Yes! My contrived fake question is useful for teaching purposes! [04:55:33] * sumanah punches air in triumph [04:55:40] * fhocutt_ grins [04:55:43] 03(mod) Discarding live preview of content font broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56081 (10Kartik Mistry) [04:56:09] So, do you have a Python interpreter handy? and do you feel comfortable installing stuff using pip? [04:56:42] I have IDLE, yes, and I'm not sure if I have pip installed [04:57:21] If you want, you can head to docs.python-requests.org to see some sample code [04:57:42] installing pip now [04:58:15] and checking out the sample code [04:58:20] of how one uses requests in general - it can be used to interact with lots of APIs, not just MediaWiki's. So people might like to use it if they are used to it [04:59:01] here is a very silly example of how you might use it with the MediaWiki API: https://github.com/brainwane/obscure-enwiki-fact/blob/master/obscurefact.py [04:59:56] I also happened to use it in "novel-titles" if you wanna see another of my repositories -- the "application.py" file would be the one to look at. [05:01:23] * fhocutt_ takes a look [05:02:27] I'm sure that various programming languages have useful thingies like "requests" that are good general-purpose tools for sending HTTP requests and pawing through the responses we get. These kinds of tools let you write idiomatic Python and don't particularly care about the semantics of the data you're trying to get or send. [05:02:36] (or idiomatic Perl or whatever) [05:03:40] right, ok [05:03:46] In contrast, I did a search on GitHub for the phrase "import mwclient" and the first result was: https://github.com/theopolisme/wikitimeline/blob/b67c8baa6045519e0259c68d50e3d68c6b9eeca3/src/config.py by theopolisme who is right here in this room actually! [05:04:00] sumanah: yo [05:04:24] what can I do for you? [05:04:26] So you see from that code sample that mwclient has a sense of what a wiki *is*. Any given wiki is a site and you might want to log into it. There are articles, which have revisions and are collected into categories. That sort of thing. [05:04:38] Oh theopolisme I was just using a bit of your code as an example. Thanks for sharing it :) [05:04:51] wikitimeline is one of the many projects i started but never finished :P [05:05:47] ah--so the libraries have a better sense of the internal structure of the thing you're trying to access, and are more powerful/intuitive for dealing with that particular thing? [05:05:50] fhocutt_: So a well-written API client library that is specific to one API can give you good affordances, to go all UX-dilettante! [05:06:51] fhocutt_: I believe so! I hope I have not been too roundabout in helping you see this [05:07:08] fhocutt_: if you have the time and inclination, sometime in the next week, it might be nice for me if you would look at http://blog.melchua.com/2013/06/19/hacker-school-session-engineering-learning-styles/ and take the quiz and tell me about your learning style, so I can teach you more effectively [05:09:31] 03(mod) "Internal error" page should expand {{SITENAME}} in 'pagetitle' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58447 normal->minor; summary (10Krinkle) [05:09:33] fhocutt_: my spouse would say that a good API-specific client library is aware of the "application semantics" of the application whose API it consumes [05:12:49] (sorry, computer was hanging for a bit) [05:12:52] (back now) [05:13:15] fhocutt_: oh ok :) fhocutt_ is your computer having any particular trouble on a regular basis? [05:13:33] this is a bit firehose but I enjoy getting tossed in to figure things out as long as there's support (which there is!) [05:14:08] sometimes Chromium's fine, sometimes it just hangs and won't unfreeze for 5-10 min :P [05:14:48] I do have a reasonably powerful desktop coming to me so when I figure out where to set it up I can work on that. [05:14:56] :/ Sympathies. .... Oh good! [05:15:58] OK. Just to be clear, you do NOT need to even skim or read those quarterly review or "yearly goals" links to get your job done. I basically just threw those in for transparency in my thinking process [05:16:24] ok, thanks! I'll focus on the API-related stuff. [05:16:52] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 +comment (10Tony Thomas) [05:19:08] fhocutt_: and the random examples I gave you of using requests versus mwclient - those really are kind of random and I cannot guarantee that the code authors (incl me) are using them particularly well or badly or whatever [05:19:21] * fhocutt_ nods [05:20:00] oh, this learning styles quiz! My questionnaire-taking style is apparently still "it depends." [05:20:24] I'll have commentary on my results. :) [05:20:25] hahahaha you are not alone [05:20:32] you should totally blog the experiment [05:22:04] fhocutt_: so, do you feel comfortable yet sending an intro mail to wikitech-l? I'm happy to answer questions, read a draft, etc [05:22:18] I did earlier this evening, if I sent it correctly [05:23:25] oh! lemme look [05:23:46] to wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org? [05:23:58] fhocutt_: so, if you're not sure whether your post went through to wikitech-l you can check the public archive http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-March/date.html [05:24:06] I don't see your post there (nor in my inbox) [05:24:17] So let's say I neglected to run update.php and purge my caches for a long time on a fairly active wiki. Is there anything I can do to clear the gunk out without just biting my nails waiting for update.php to finish? [05:24:36] Ulfr_: you've already looked at the other scripts in the maintenance/ directory? [05:24:39] * sumanah doesn't actually know [05:25:05] sumanah: At the moment I'm trying to appease my very, very cranky database setup and hoping purging some stuff will do it. [05:27:10] fhocutt_: did you join the list? you do have to be a member to post. And are you sending from the same address you used to subscribe? sometimes that's a snag. [05:27:31] "The first time you post to the newsgroup you will receive an email for verification, which is normal." maybe that's in your spambox fhocutt_? [05:29:24] Welp. DROP *.* cleared up my wait problem quite neatly. [05:29:44] Goodness! [05:30:47] 03(mod) Can't use phpunit.phar to invoke MediaWiki tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58881 normal->major; +comment (10Andrew Garrett) [05:37:13] It's something like that. [05:47:30] 03(NEW) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [05:49:18] 03(mod) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 +comment (10mba_hyd) [05:49:45] fhocutt_: how's it going? can I offer any advice or the like? [05:53:54] fhocutt_: I've sent an intro email so you know Tollef's, Brad's, and Merlijn's email addresses and IRC nicknames :) [05:54:24] fhocutt: ^ (not sure which nick is Alive right now) [05:56:49] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 +comment (10gerritadmin) [05:56:50] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [05:58:08] fhocutt_: fhocutt when you have a moment I'd like to chat with you about the far glorious future of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Data_%26_Developer_Hub (not immediately pertinent) [06:01:07] I will fiout tonght. [06:01:07] thank you for your help, sumanah! [06:01:27] fhocutt_: what does fiout mean? Find out? Glad to help! [06:01:34] 03(mod) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 +comment (10kartik.mistry) [06:02:24] 03(mod) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 +comment (10kartik.mistry) [06:09:39] I'm looking for an example of a mediawiki extension that embeds a dynamic generated local image. [06:10:11] I have nginx proxy_pass location /qr/ to generate a PNG of any string after /qr/ [06:10:20] I want to display that within a mediawiki page [06:10:40] tried $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom without success [06:11:36] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowImageTag this would also work except I don't want normal users to be able to add arbitrary image tags [06:12:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddHTML so I'm considering this instead [06:27:03] sumanah, typoed and lagged! :P I will figure out the mailing list stuff tonight. [06:27:45] fhocutt_: cool. All right. I'm gonna head to bed over here pretty soon. Do you feel ok for the next 12-24 hours, re your microtask and the email intro and improving your proposal? [06:30:06] sumanah: Yep. I've got a lot of reading to do, and I have a better grasp of the project's context. [06:30:12] fhocutt_: great :) [06:30:22] thanks again! [06:30:37] as I said, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Data_%26_Developer_Hub is way in the future but worth knowing about - it's an idea, feels probably going to happen [06:30:45] grr, Extension:AddHTML doesn't work for a Special page [06:30:49] sweet! see you online soon. [06:31:00] good luck warren - maybe mediawiki-l can help you? [06:31:04] !lists | warren [06:31:04] warren: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [06:31:08] thanks [06:35:29] 03(mod) Tool Labs: Provide a view of the user_properties table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58196 +comment (10liangent) [06:42:21] 03(mod) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:59:20] Hi Everyone I need some help regarding my GSoC project https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Apsdehal/GSoC2014_Proposal [06:59:39] I am not sure how I should finally publish my project as an extension or as a browser plugin [06:59:53] Because as Fedrico (nemo) says extensions are created through GSoC are not mostly deployed or used. So can anybody suggest alternatives [07:00:09] Talk Page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Apsdehal/GSoC2014_Proposal [07:15:06] 03(mod) Can't use phpunit.phar to invoke MediaWiki tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58881 +comment (10Sebastian Bergmann) [07:21:46] Can anyone help me with editings in Wikidata [07:24:42] 03(mod) Translation not saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62584 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:26:05] apsdehal: you still didn't wikify the text [07:26:54] Doing that [07:27:28] 03(mod) in front of section header confuses section editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58946 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:28:18] commented on talk on your previous question [07:29:25] @Nemo_bis By wikify you exactly mean that I should add wikilinks to my proposal? [07:29:28] 03(mod) Translation not saved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62584 +comment (10Nemo) [07:34:29] hi. how do I set the defaults so new accounts dont have edit privileges? [07:34:39] the already created ones must have those privs. [07:34:58] 03(mod) If a field name contains an ampersand, it then does not pick up the associated property. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43989 +comment (10Pawan Seerwani) [07:35:46] also any chance https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51331 will be fixed :( [07:35:51] 03(mod) Upgrading from #target to ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62601 +comment (10tinajohnson.1234) [07:36:22] 03(mod) Upgrading from #target to ContentHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62601 (10Tony Thomas) [08:12:17] 03(mod) Add proper email bounce handling to MediaWiki (with VERP) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46640 +comment (1001tonythomas) [08:20:54] Hi all, I'm a student from China. I have contacted Liangent and DChan a week ago, talking about the UniversalLanguageSelector project. I'll submit my proposal in 2 or 3 days. Thanks in advance! [08:21:02] I received the mail < URGENT call for geographical diversity in Wikimedia >, so come to show up :) [08:28:17] aaron_xiao: Nice to hear that. :) [08:28:35] Feel free to ask for feedback on proposal here or on the mailing list. [08:30:45] Which ULS project? [08:33:48] Nikerabbit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2014#UniversalLanguageSelector_fonts_for_Chinese_.28or_CJK.29_wikis I assume. [08:34:57] oh I see [08:35:07] it's hard for me to imagine tougher gsoc project [08:35:44] He´s from China. [08:37:09] aha, so that's a bonus :) [08:38:10] The wiki page is: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Xiaoxiangquan/UniversalFontsSelector_proposal [08:38:29] almost empty currently [08:46:11] 03(mod) Uzbek: Change date and decimal separators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46453 +comment (10gerritadmin) [08:49:42] 03(NEW) Merge all Cucumber feature files about preferences into one file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62636 normal; Wikimedia: Quality Assurance; () [08:51:01] ok, remember to move it to proper namespace and title when done [08:53:32] 03(mod) Merge all Cucumber feature files about preferences into one file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62636 (10Željko Filipin) [09:08:21] 03(NEW) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [09:10:20] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:12:13] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:13:08] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:17:49] Ah, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/google-summer-of-code-discuss is moderated. It would be helpful if they said... [09:19:30] 03(NEW) Mobile does not support UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62638 normal; MobileFrontend: stable; () [09:20:14] 03(mod) Mobile does not support UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62638 +comment (10bingle-admin) [09:25:10] 03(NEW) App crashes if you open a non-existing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62639 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; () [09:32:34] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:35:49] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10pginer) [09:36:17] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:38:12] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:39:15] 03(mod) Problem with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 +comment (10mba_hyd) [09:42:07] 03(mod) wm-bot to tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51935 +comment (10benapetr) [09:50:26] 03(NEW) On mobile login-link on Special:Upload points to desktop version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 minor; MobileFrontend: stable; () [09:55:13] 03(mod) On mobile login-link on Special:Upload points to desktop version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 +comment (10bingle-admin) [09:58:02] 03(mod) Login-link on Special:Upload points to desktop version (on mobile) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 summary (10Lokal_Profil) [10:03:29] 03(mod) Remove the map from the main ULS panel - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62637 (10Nemo) [10:30:47] 03(mod) [Interlanguage links] Default languages shown for an Italian user can be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62346 (10Nemo) [10:38:56] 03(mod) wm-bot to tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51935 +comment (10aklapper) [10:41:43] 03(mod) Mobile does not support UploadWizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62638 normal->15enhancement (10Andre Klapper) [10:49:45] 03(mod) File missing on Commons (Charles_I_of_Austria; uploaded 2010) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62629 summary (10Andre Klapper) [10:52:03] 03(mod) Drop the redundant tree_orig_create_time column from flow_tree_revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62628 (10Andre Klapper) [10:54:52] 03(mod) Notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 +comment (10aklapper) [10:57:20] 03(mod) auto promotion not working on trwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62577 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [10:57:46] How can i proceed with editings in Wikidata? [11:03:10] 03(mod) [] square brackets in editor under message definition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44189 +comment (10Nemo) [11:03:36] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate doesn't work with .i18n.php shims for new-style .json messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58249 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:05:15] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10steinsplitter-wiki) [11:07:04] 03(mod) Gender user preference doesn't make sense on ka, since ka is gender neutral language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61110 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:10:29] 03(mod) Romanian messages not being exported - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38200 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:11:29] 03(mod) Messages for no/nb is failing in no.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37528 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:14:16] 03(mod) wfMsg et al use wrong Title object when expanding magic words, during job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33431 +comment (10Niklas Laxström) [11:16:17] 03(mod) Allow visitors to leave comments in the Talk namespace on wmfwiki (wikimediafoundation.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27006 summary; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:17:27] 03(mod) Predictable URL for "Download as PDF" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62592 (10Andre Klapper) [11:19:51] 03(mod) Toggling between desktop and mobile misbehaves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61400 +comment (10Max Semenik) [11:21:05] 03(mod) Investigate ways to make wikimediafoundation.org more open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27006 summary; +comment (10p858snake) [11:23:45] 03(mod) Jenkins job fails when all tests pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60037 +comment (10zfilipin) [11:24:09] wait I will send you some links [11:24:22] 03(mod) Jenkins job fails when all tests pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60037 +comment (10zfilipin) [11:24:50] 03(mod) Double typing of Input Letters with ULS on Urdu Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62635 summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:26:12] 03(mod) Wikimedia wikis with $wgLanguageCode = 'zh' error with certain input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51551 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:27:06] 03(mod) [] square brackets in editor under message definition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44189 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [11:29:31] sandaru: if you meen shrees, they already quit [11:32:45] 03(mod) Files missing from mediawiki 1.19.13 release tarball (test directory and two xcf files) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62631 summary (10Andre Klapper) [11:36:21] Nemo_bis: yeah it seems so [11:37:27] she has left wikimedia irc but still in wikidata irc so i'm helping her there :) [11:39:50] 03(mod) Create "Main Page" for Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56258 (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:41:58] 03(mod) Opening Commons Delinker command page on wiki sometimes returns HTTP 504: Gateway Timeout -- SQL query sometimes super slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54122 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:42:26] 03(mod) "var TEST = true" should not create a global variable in debug mode (for consistency with production mode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62605 (10Andre Klapper) [11:42:55] 03(mod) allow time values more precise than day - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55755 (10Lydia Pintscher) [11:43:03] 03(mod) [Interlanguage links] Default languages shown for an Italian user can be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62346 +comment (10amir.aharoni) [11:43:08] 03(mod) $wgEnableSidebarCache Conflict with $wgLanguageCode = "zh" ? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36744 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:43:23] 03(mod) Editing a template doesn't cause pages transcluding redirects to be added to job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31389 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:43:41] 03(mod) Make weekly report part of bugzilla (rather than external script) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25637 (10Andre Klapper) [11:44:06] 03(mod) Something like what Wordpress does (place to edit different HTML parts of the blog but in this case wiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34994 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:44:39] 03(mod) HTML+bitmap ruler-based interface to ImageMagick crop function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19473 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:44:40] 03(mod) allow cropping images when rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/7757 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:44:53] 03(mod) put a link to the entity's canonical URI into the toolbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275 +comment (10karan) [11:45:18] 03(mod) superscript text breaks the line-spacing in he.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24130 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:45:55] 03(mod) Show full item preview in undo/restore form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39133 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:46:26] 03(mod) Notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 +comment (10umar.dagirov) [11:47:02] 03(mod) Create method anchors for Doxygen that are suitable for permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41721 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [11:49:33] 03(mod) Test coverage of JavaScript QUnit tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40656 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:50:06] 03(mod) "var TEST = true" should not create a global variable in debug mode (for consistency with production mode) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62605 (10Helder) [11:50:07] 03(mod) ResourceLoader: Implied global function not a global function outside debug mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46582 (10Helder) [11:51:34] 03(mod) Auto-generated documentation for JavaScript code based on already existing doxygen comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40657 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:51:44] 03(mod) Auto-generated documentation for JavaScript code based on already existing doxygen comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40657 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:54:29] 03(mod) Create a VisualEditor plugin tool to insert/edit references to Wikidata queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46521 (10tobias.gritschacher) [11:58:20] 03(mod) allow linking when property parser function has multiple results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46788 +comment (10lydia.pintscher) [12:00:31] 03(mod) Add [[d:Special:DispatchStats]] into the API or include with maxlag? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46910 15enhancement->minor; +need-volunteer (10Lydia Pintscher) [12:02:50] 03(mod) Add [[d:Special:DispatchStats]] into the API or include with maxlag? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46910 (10Lydia Pintscher) [12:03:30] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [12:04:42] 03(mod) If a field name contains an ampersand, it then does not pick up the associated property. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43989 +comment (10Yaron Koren) [12:04:49] 03(mod) make bits.wikimedia.org work with second level domains / A records. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44097 (10tobias.gritschacher) [12:05:20] 03(mod) Investigate ways to make wikimediafoundation.org more open - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27006 +comment (10aklapper) [12:12:44] 03(mod) put a link to the entity's canonical URI into the toolbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54275 +comment (10aklapper) [12:18:23] 03(mod) some gdash images are broken (500 ISE from graphite) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57174 +comment (10jeremyb) [12:25:15] 03(mod) fenari/noc and graphite/gdash reverse proxy need migrating to EQIAD - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56127 +comment (10bugzilla+org.wikimedia) [12:25:57] * jeremyb spies andre__ [12:26:03] och :) [12:27:28] andre__: you has replies [12:27:42] wherever that will be :) [12:28:07] you need only look at the last 2 lines from wikibugs in this channel :) [12:28:36] ay [12:48:03] [excuse my flooding] Hello everyone, just want to officially introduce myself. My name is Jeremy Grajales. I live in Chicago, Illinois, USA (UTC-5). I am a Junior at Northeastern Illinois University in Chicago majoring in CS. [12:48:16] I am also new to the mediawiki project. And I am just trying to make new friends and get involved in something I have never done before... [12:48:26] I'm on Freenode and on Google and Skype if anyone wants to contact me. I am connecting with Zeljko next week to hopefully learn a little bit more about what goes on here. Any tips/pointers from anyone else is appreciated. [12:58:14] jeremylee: that's great! What kinds of things are you interested in working on? [12:59:01] I am new to QA so I'm curious about the workflow. I am really interested in this VisualEditor I keep hearing about though. [13:00:45] Yaron: I am also new to IRC. Can I ask an IRC netiquette question? [13:00:58] Sure. [13:01:20] Yaron: we usually identify who we're talking to by prepending the users username to the line. [13:01:26] Right. [13:02:12] is this something everybody just types? or is there some client supported shortcut that most people use to prepend the username? [13:02:21] 03(mod) Create method anchors for Doxygen that are suitable for permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41721 +comment (10nathanlarson3141) [13:03:04] That's not really "netiquette", :) but anyway - on my IRC reader (Pidgin), there's an auto-suggest if you start typing a name and hit "tab". [13:03:38] ah. I see. im using kiwiirc right now. no autosuggest [13:03:45] !tabcompletion [13:03:45] Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line. This avoids misspellings. Just make sure it's the right person! [13:03:53] The usual reason people put in usernames, by the way, is that most IRC clients beep the person if their name is entered. [13:03:57] evidently not on kiwiirc? sadness! [13:04:34] sumanah: actually... I take that back. [13:04:52] sumanah: I just tried it. it works on kiwi [13:05:03] cool! [13:05:10] Yaron: I just didn't know about it. [13:05:26] Clearly. [13:05:26] it's a nice day when you discover new things you can do [13:05:29] Yaron: sumanah: O_o vEry cool [13:06:14] sumanah: yes it is. I try to make it a point to learn a new power every day. [13:06:19] :) [13:06:24] Maybe I should do that too. [13:06:36] Anyway, jeremylee, how is your MediaWiki journey going today? [13:06:54] um [13:06:55] well [13:09:16] I'm trying to get familiar with all of the different accounts I should create. [13:09:47] Got it. [13:10:10] jeremylee: I just read the log for this channel today http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23mediawiki/20140314.txt so now I know how new you are. Welcome! [13:10:59] jeremylee: It used to be even more multifarious. I'm glad we now have single sign-on for most of the Wikimedia wikis. [13:11:51] sumanah: with the global login feature right? [13:11:54] jeremylee: Right - we call it SUL (Single User Login) [13:11:57] The API docs say this: "The cookies last for around a month and you should check that you need to log in based on detecting that you're not logged in (rather than logging once per session, for example)." How should I detect this? [13:13:28] cgt: hmm. Not sure. Looking now at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php [13:13:50] ' assert - Verify the user is logged in if set to "user", or has the bot userright if "bot"' [13:13:55] jeremylee: feel free to ask qa related questions at #wikimedia-qa [13:15:02] zeljkof: ok thanks [13:15:08] sumanah: thanks [13:15:18] cgt: sure. You know about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox ? [13:15:32] sumanah: Yes [13:15:43] It is very convenient [13:16:00] cgt: if you gin up an example and then expand the "generic parameters" then assert is in there [13:16:42] sumanah: Thanks, never noticed that before. [13:17:25] cgt: it's easy to miss! I didn't know either :-) I've now updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#Application-specific_user_accounts - would that have helped you? [13:18:02] sumanah: Definitely [13:18:09] great [13:18:39] cgt: So may I ask what you're using the API for? I'm curious because I may be mentoring a project this summer meant to cater to our API users [13:19:29] jeremylee: I was gonna ask whether you know http://mollywhite.net/ but she is at the OTHER Northeastern :) [13:19:30] sumanah: I am working on an MW API client in Go, which I am going to use for my bot on da.wikipedia [13:20:01] oh this is really cool cgt! Is it already in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code#Go ? [13:20:07] yes it is! [13:20:25] Yeah, I added it recently when I felt the the package's API was stable enough [13:20:50] My colleagues at Hacker School include many Go enthusiasts [13:21:14] Well, it is a very enjoyable language [13:21:14] * sumanah just did Hacker School during her sabbatical in the autumn, did not learn Go, did not collect $200 [13:21:40] except for dealing with the MediaWiki JSON API, that can be painful sometimes [13:21:46] (you get the Monopoly reference, btw? sorry, it's quite hackneyed but I felt called to make it) [13:21:51] Nope, I did not [13:22:04] there's a board game called Monopoly where there is a first square called Go [13:22:12] I see [13:22:35] For example, when the API returns a list of pages, it doesn't return a JSON array of objects, it returns a bunch of objects indexed by the pages' ID [13:22:44] which is annoying to iterate over [13:22:55] and you circle past it occasionally and get a free $200 each time you do -- but there's a penalty card where you have to "go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200" [13:23:04] I see [13:23:46] anomie: ^ API user here making a suggestion :-) (Jeremy, Brad here is one of the API maintainers) [13:24:03] * anomie reads scrollback [13:24:28] (you can ignore my "there used to be this board game called Monopoly" digression) [13:25:07] actually I believe it was already mentioned in an RFC on MediaWiki somewhere [13:25:17] and I added a comment there a while ago [13:25:22] yeah, Brad is one of the authors of that RfC :) [13:26:03] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:26:04] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [13:26:11] * cgt has no idea who Brad is [13:26:18] cgt: was https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/API_roadmap that discussion? Also in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-March/075229.html the prospective intern asks whether there are API client libraries you have found exemplary, Wikimedian or otherwise [13:26:25] cgt: anomie = Brad Jorsch [13:27:18] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/API_roadmap#JSON_format_cleanup [13:27:38] Not sure if I'm supposed to add comments on that page... sorry [13:27:39] oh I see you there now! [13:27:47] Yeah, revamping the JSON result to be an array instead of a hash with pageid keys would be nice. I need to find time to get back to the RFC, write up announcements, plan deprecations, etc. [13:28:02] robolobster: hi [13:28:06] that would be great [13:28:10] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10mmullie) [13:28:21] anomie: what has RobLa put on your plate instead? :) I can try to say "roooooob let Brad work on the apiiiiiiii" [13:28:27] cgt: Feel free to add comments on that page [13:29:42] sumanah: SecurePoll. Also general bug-chasing as always in MW Core, and helping review Flow and stuff like that. [13:29:58] * sumanah technically knows those are important [13:30:11] * sumanah grumps a bit [13:30:32] * sumanah has also placed one more responsibility on your plate re the internship and recognizes that [13:31:00] sumanah : hello, i am trying to debug a annoying little bug Bug 54749, problem is i don't know much about that bug and where to start debugging, any help/suggestion. [13:31:09] hi rahulmishra. What have you tried so far? :-) [13:32:03] sumanah: as far as now what i have tried is to understand the code. thats it :( [13:32:21] rahulmishra: OK. Have you tried setting up a development environment and reproducing the error? [13:34:36] rahulmishra: Don't try to understand ALL OF MEDIAWIKI right now [13:34:49] sumanah: yes i have the environment already set up in my system (if mediawiki is the setup you are asking ), but dont know how to produce the bug . [13:35:37] Yes, I mean MediaWiki. All right, thank you for getting specific! "I don't know how to reproduce this bug" is a far more productive statement of your problem than "don't know where to start" :-) [13:35:57] 03(mod) Migrate zero-bdd.wmflabs.org and zero-test.wmflabs.org to new data center - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62541 +comment (10abogott) [13:36:44] suamanah: okay :) [13:36:57] !b 54749 [13:36:58] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54749 [13:37:28] rahulmishra: so you're working on this bug, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54749 " thumb.php should output docs if no file specified"? [13:37:53] sumanah: yes. [13:38:49] 03(mod) Create l10nupdate users and group with id 10002 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62529 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:38:49] 03(mod) Create l10nupdate user in ldap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62595 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:38:59] rahulmishra: OK. So, do you see how the Importance is marked at "enhancement"? That means we want you to add a new cool thing, not fix a problem. [13:39:07] 03(mod) Create l10nupdate user in ldap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62595 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:39:22] rahulmishra: so what currently happens when you visit thumb.php? does it currently already output a list of all the possible parameters it can take? [13:39:34] 03(mod) Create l10nupdate users and group with id 10002 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62529 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [13:39:51] sumanah: no [13:40:28] rahulmishra: ok. So the task still needs doing. :-) Do you understand now why this is different from having a defect to try to fix? [13:40:29] suamanah: it gives some error message instead. [13:41:35] rahulmishra: ok. Now, at this point, if you were in my place, what question might you ask next? after you say "it gives some error message instead." [13:42:44] sumanah: i might wanted you to be more specific about error message, i guess [13:42:51] YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT. [13:42:55] So go ahead. :) [13:43:53] sumanah: please wait for some moment. [13:44:37] 03(mod) Migrate /data/project from multimedia project into eqiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62616 +comment (10abogott) [13:44:41] rahulmishra: OK. Do you understand why we could have saved the last 15 minutes of time and work if you had come in to this channel immediately saying "when I go to thumb.php I get this particular error" so we could have started diagnosing immediately? [13:45:37] 03(mod) Migration help: Project "Maps" /data/project/wma copy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62336 +comment (10abogott) [13:48:56] 03(mod) Move wikisource-tools and wikisource-dev instances to eqiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62327 +comment (10abogott) [13:49:06] sumanah: yes, new to this environment watching a learning things. :) [13:49:18] rahulmishra: Cool. [13:49:23] suamanah: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7090245/ [13:49:32] Asking specific questions and saying "here is what I have tried so far" saves everyone lots of time rahulmishra [13:49:59] rahulmishra: There is a company out there that follows the rule "you must try, and then you must ask" http://www.mattringel.com/2013/09/30/you-must-try-and-then-you-must-ask/ which you might find a helpful guide [13:50:05] !tabcompletion | rahulmishra [13:50:05] rahulmishra: Instead of manually typing another person's nickname in IRC, you can type the beginning of their name and hit TAB on your keyboard to get it autocompleted, like on the command line. This avoids misspellings. Just make sure it's the right person! [13:52:14] sumanah: cool, got it. [13:52:20] 03(mod) Migration help: Project "Maps" /data/project/wma copy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62336 +comment (10Daniel Schwen) [13:53:31] rahulmishra: nice job using a pastebin. :-) for two- or three-line things like this it is perhaps unnecessary because it's not too much flooding in the channel, but I appreciate your consideration. [13:54:38] "The requested page title was invalid, empty,"... ok. so what does thumb.php actually want to do? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Thumb.php "Script used to resize images if it is configured to be done when the web browser requests the image and not when generating the page." [13:54:43] sumanah: thanks, some readings of IRC etiquittes. :) [13:56:04] 03(mod) Add Thanks feature to Flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61930 +comment (10gerritadmin) [13:56:18] rahulmishra: so, when you were trying to figure this out, did you try searching mediawiki.org for thumb.php ? [13:57:02] * sumanah is going away for a few min. Think about what you have just learned [13:57:17] sumanah: no, but i am doing it now. [14:02:22] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10rainerrillke) [14:03:07] 03(mod) Don't link deleted items in the UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61854 +comment (10Daniel Kinzler) [14:12:06] 03(mod) Two search suggestions boxes are being displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34548 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:13:36] 03(mod) Logged in status incorrectly displayed after a PHP session timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32364 (10Andre Klapper) [14:13:38] 03(mod) MediaWiki should use ETags instead of Last-Modified and the Logged out cookie hack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31639 (10Andre Klapper) [14:14:05] ok, rahulmishra. What do you think your next step should be? [14:14:45] 03(mod) MediaWiki should check ETags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47529 +comment (10aklapper) [14:16:33] 03(mod) Loading/opening large images the server hangs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17203 +testme; +comment (10Andre Klapper) [14:16:35] sumanah: i honest attempt to understand it, and try to implement it, i guess. [14:17:06] sumanh: sorry , typo *an [14:17:29] rahulmishra: ok. That's a good GOAL. I'm trying to break it down into much smaller steps so you can have a clear path :) what is the very next page you will look at or file you will try to understand? [14:19:24] sumanah: currently i am in mediawiki.org/wiki/thumb.php, next i will go around its link, i guess. [14:19:40] 03(mod) [] square brackets in editor under message definition - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44189 +comment (10Nemo) [14:19:57] rahulmishra: ok. It's useful to treat it like a science experiment. Have you learnt what the "scientific method" is? [14:20:47] sumanah: i have to do some more research . Not exactly. [14:21:55] sumanah: Not exactly heard about "scientific method", please elaborate. [14:22:14] rahulmishra: OK. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method (this is from the Simple English Wikipedia, which uses simple words so people can understand better) You come up with a hypothesis and then you figure out how to test it, and then you gather the data [14:22:23] 03(mod) Creating new section may overwrite edit to another section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47438 (10Andre Klapper) [14:22:35] 03(mod) pywikibot.Link.langlinkUnsafe can't deal with obsolete sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61120 (10Sorawee Porncharoenwase) [14:23:09] 03(NEW) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 blocker; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; () [14:23:15] if you can watch YouTube videos, or vimeo.com videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kf51FpBuXQ or http://vimeo.com/5377893 have a little music video to help you understand [14:23:26] 03(mod) Edit on doubleclick doesn't work in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/53575 (10Andre Klapper) [14:23:53] bug 62641 can someone confirm? [14:24:23] 03(mod) interwiki() fails for closed wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55146 (10Sorawee Porncharoenwase) [14:25:03] sumanah: on it. :) [14:25:06] !b 62641 [14:25:06] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 [14:25:18] hm, works for me on deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs (is that the latest version?) [14:25:23] 03(mod) [Interlanguage links] Default languages shown for an Italian user can be improved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62346 +comment (10federicoleva) [14:25:25] I'll try on a test wiki [14:29:13] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [14:31:54] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 (10jeffwang16) [14:33:23] sumanah: watched it :) [14:34:10] rahulmishra: OK. So now do you understand why the scientific method is useful in debugging? [14:36:18] sumanah: yes i get it, cause you don't know whether your hypothesis is correct or not. [14:37:04] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 +comment (10pirsquared17) [14:37:29] Right. So you think, "what would be different if my hypothesis was right versus wrong?" and then you test your idea against the real world (against the code) [14:40:12] 03(mod) Grammatical genger user preference is confusing in a gender neutral language like ka - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61110 summary; +comment (10Nemo) [14:40:35] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 (10jeffwang16) [14:40:52] 03(mod) Grammatical gender user preference is confusing in a gender neutral language like ka - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61110 summary (10Nemo) [14:44:27] rahulmishra: OK. So let us know if you're still stuck :) [14:44:55] sumanah: problem with me is, i might lack hypothesis to test. [14:45:05] rahulmishra: Right, you have to come up with that. :) [14:45:28] sumanah: will do. :) [14:45:58] rahulmishra: so, you might at first think of the hypothesis "the way to make thumb.php work is to feed it a particular filename as a parameter in this way" and then try it out. [14:46:17] rahulmishra: you may find it helpful to keep a sort of notebook or log of what you have already tried and what the results were - a "lab notebook" [14:48:13] sumanah: okay, and i was thinking about that only i.e . how to make thumb.php work by giving correct parameter. [14:48:19] Cool1 [14:48:52] Cool! OK. You will get into a rhythm of thinking of tests, trying them, and learning from each one. From the outcome ofeach test you learn more and more about how the system works [14:49:17] One test could be "if I change this line thusly, then the behavior will change to foo" [14:49:53] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 +comment (10pirsquared17) [14:50:46] sumanah: sure.But didn't got you this time. [14:52:00] sumanah: by what you tried to say "if I change this line 'thusly', then the behavior will change to foo" [14:52:01] rahulmishra: like, maybe on line 2 of the file thumb.php there is some operation, and you might form the hypothesis, "if I delete this operation, then there won't be an error message anymore when you go to thumb.php in the browser" --- do you understand this example? [14:52:23] 03(mod) Move wikisource-tools and wikisource-dev instances to eqiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62327 +comment (10thomaspt) [14:52:51] 03(mod) change Lua functions to not return deprecated (and conditionally normal) statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62191 +comment (10gerritadmin) [14:52:57] Sorry, "thusly" is an adverb in English that means "like this" - it's obscure and I shouldn't have used it. [14:53:12] "foo" is a placeholder, like ________ or "x" or $variable [14:53:30] sumanah: yes yes,okay got it. :) [14:53:35] Great :) [14:53:45] ok, let us know if you get stuck. [14:54:15] sumanah : sure. :) [14:54:42] Great. I may or may not be in channel, but other people can help you, especially if you tell us what you have just tried and what you are trying to test. [14:55:43] sumanah: okay, i will try to be as specific as it can be. thanks for helping me out. [14:55:58] Great. [14:56:07] Welcome to another part of your open source journey :) [14:56:49] sumanah: enjoying it at the moment. :) [15:02:42] 03(mod) change Lua functions to not return deprecated (and conditionally normal) statements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62191 (10Marius Hoch) [15:03:13] 03(mod) Fatal error: Call to a member function getId() on a non-object in ContentRetriever - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62545 (10Marius Hoch) [15:06:37] 03(mod) Cannot change user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62641 04BLOCKER->major (10Andre Klapper) [15:10:37] 03(NEW) Values from category doesn't handle & character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62642 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; () [15:13:37] * greg-g looks at 62642 [15:13:40] er 41 [15:17:38] hi greg-g - you saw the patch for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62634 ? happy it was such a fast fix [15:18:33] yeah, commenting now! [15:18:43] 03(mod) Repo API modules should not depend on EntityContent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62491 (10tobias.gritschacher) [15:19:19] 03(mod) Use ValueValidators for checking length constraints for labels, descriptions, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54274 +comment (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:19:22] 03(mod) Use standard DataValue validators for labels, descriptions and aliases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49583 +comment (10lydia.pintscher) [15:26:38] 03(NEW) term validation via changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62643 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [15:27:29] 03(mod) Review and Deploy 'Popups' extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61167 +comment (10greg) [15:28:05] 03(NEW) do snack validation in changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62644 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [15:28:25] 03(mod) term validation via changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62643 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:28:29] 03(mod) do snack validation in changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62644 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:28:35] 03(mod) term validation via changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62643 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:28:40] 03(mod) term validation via changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62643 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:28:56] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10greg) [15:28:57] 03(mod) do snack validation in changeop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62644 (10Lydia Pintscher) [15:35:02] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Visualization issues with Firefox Aurora 29.0a2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62645 normal; VisualEditor: General; () [15:35:07] 03(mod) Use prebuilt breakpad library on travis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62619 +comment (10addshorewiki) [15:50:46] 03(mod) udp2log and/or demux.py filename corruption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62082 +comment (10Greg Grossmeier) [15:51:17] Hi. If you own an Android device with this tool https://github.com/ebraminio/WikimediaCommonsForMuzei you can have Wikimedia Commons as your dynamic background [15:56:02] 03(mod) RT tickets hide status information from volunteers and staff alike - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30413 +comment (10aklapper) [15:56:02] 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up perceptual diffs (visual regression testing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62633 +comment (10jforrester) [15:56:07] ebraminio: neat [15:57:42] hi [15:57:50] Can someone explain this ? [15:58:17] the infobox says "beta feature (invalid type)" [15:58:55] Is Jdforrester (WMF) on IRC? [16:00:39] pir^2: James_F [16:00:44] pir^2: is hilarious seeing his response to this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template_talk:Extension#Adding_a_file_repository_type_36863 [16:01:30] pir^2: Hmm, someone broke the template? [16:02:56] James_F: well, not broken, but should a "beta feature" type be created? [16:03:02] pir^2: Fixing. [16:03:50] Vulpix: I don't get the joke, then [16:04:06] me neither [16:04:12] "I thought that it was meant to mirror the split on Special:Version, but… possibly we should have sub-types for sane categorisation here? "Other" is less helpful, in particular. :-)" [16:04:37] Vulpix: … yes? [16:05:53] What is the difference between "type = beta feature" and "status = beta" ? [16:06:43] if type is meant to mimic the split in Special:Version, why is now being used for what I initially requested? If the purpose of the parameter has changed, I've missed it [16:06:58] 03(mod) Exit lightbox when clicking on backdrop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56402 +comment (10Mark Holmquist) [16:18:28] Vulpix: So your complaint is that I'm agreeing with you? [16:23:17] James_F: My complaint is that I don't know when the criteria has changed, and I don't see any discussion about that [16:23:53] maybe there was no limitation and I could have added it myself without asking [16:26:41] Who is working on Cirrus and/or Lucene and/or Search in general? [16:28:28] Vulpix: I think you're right. [16:28:42] pir^2: manybubbles [16:28:56] me and ^d [16:29:11] 03(mod) 500 Internal Server Error for catscan2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61812 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:11] 03(NEW) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 normal; Huggle: Application; () [16:32:11] 03(mod) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:11] 03(mod) HG3 Build 860 added a lvl 1 warning when one already existed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61933 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:11] 03(mod) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:11] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:11] 03(mod) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 (10gladjonatan) [16:32:24] 03(mod) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 (10gladjonatan) [16:41:15] manybubbles: ping [16:41:41] manybubbles, ^d: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Search_issues_.28with_search_term_.22one-on-one.22.29 [16:43:46] <^d> pir^2: Yeah that happens from time to time with the old search :( [16:44:00] ^d: can you reply there? [16:44:11] <^d> I shall. [16:46:43] 03(mod) Compact-interlanguage link feature fails to show any relevant languages for some users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62363 +comment (10Niharika) [16:48:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: CSS to add numbers to reference list items it vertically misaligned (should be top not bottom?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61423 +comment (10santosh reddy) [16:48:17] <^d> pir^2: Sadly, the only answer is "please be patient, we're replacing it as fast as we can and you can opt-in already if you want" [16:49:09] ^d: thank you for replying [16:49:18] <^d> you're welcome. [16:54:49] 03(mod) update mediawiki_selenium gem to honor optional useragent string per MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62512 (10Željko Filipin) [16:59:40] 03(mod) Migrate zero-bdd.wmflabs.org and zero-test.wmflabs.org to new data center - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62541 +comment (10abaso) [17:07:45] 03(mod) Update mediawiki_selenium gem to honor optional useragent string per MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62512 summary (10Željko Filipin) [17:08:19] 03(NEW) Add a new section, wikitext for the header is exposed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62647 normal; Parsoid: General; () [17:10:13] 03(NEW) Backend time parser does not parse years with more than 4 digits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62648 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [17:10:51] 03(mod) Update mediawiki_selenium gem to honor optional useragent string per MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62512 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:10:53] 03(mod) Update mediawiki_selenium gem to honor optional useragent string per MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62512 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [17:11:36] 03(mod) Backend time parser does not parse years with more than 4 digits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62648 (10tobias.gritschacher) [17:12:15] 03(mod) Backend time parser does not parse years with more than 4 digits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62648 (10tobias.gritschacher) [17:12:27] 03(mod) Update mediawiki_selenium gem to honor optional useragent string per MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62512 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:15:31] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10gerritadmin) [17:15:48] 03(NEW) Install libGeoIP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62649 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [17:17:00] 03(mod) $wgNamespaceAliases for sh.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56169 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [17:17:10] Kolega2357: ^ [17:17:21] since Siebrand -1'd it [17:18:43] 03(mod) Add a new section, wikitext for the header is exposed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62647 +comment (10jforrester) [17:24:24] 03(mod) watchlist notification emails should contain label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/45441 +comment (10qgil) [17:24:36] Hi, question: I want to display more form-elements in the editpage below the textarea. so far i have a basic extension, i use the hook EditPage::showEditForm:fields but when i call my function (echo "hello world") it displays this on top of the page. How can a show it where it belongs?question: I want to display more form-elements in the editpage below the textarea. so far i have a basic extension, i use the hook [17:25:18] sorry for the mess [17:30:33] noone? [17:33:51] imorg: Just do $output->addHtml( "hello world" ); [17:33:52] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: On opening a page that contains only a template, template is selected but you can't edit the template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62650 minor; VisualEditor: General; () [17:34:08] imorg: with $output the second parameter of the hook [17:34:54] cool, thx i will try now [17:37:06] hm, i get: Notice: Undefined variable: output [17:37:58] you should use these arguments: ( EditPage $editpage, OutputPage $output ) [17:39:15] Yeah! now i understand! [17:39:24] Thanks again! [17:40:01] 03(mod) Login link on Special:Upload renders login link as external link to desktop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 summary; +comment (10Jon) [17:41:25] 03(mod) Architecture/Performance Review for 'Popups' extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61742 +comment (10dgarry) [17:42:59] 03(mod) VisualEditor: On opening a page that contains only a template, template is selected but you can't edit the template - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62650 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:43:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: If the initial selection is a node (i.e. the document only contains nodes, no text), show the appropriate inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57477 +comment (10James Forrester) [17:45:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: If the initial selection is a node (i.e. the document only contains nodes, no text), show the appropriate inspector icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/57477 (10James Forrester) [17:45:42] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Up and down cursor keys don't let you cursor from a node into a slug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62542 summary (10James Forrester) [17:45:42] 03(mod) API JSON formatter returns [] as an empty return value - inconsistent with {} for non-empty values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10887 (10Umherirrender) [17:45:43] 03(mod) Consolidate Special:Uploads and Special:UploadWizard code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62638 summary; +comment (10Jon) [17:45:45] 03(mod) MediaWiki API 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38891 (10Umherirrender) [17:46:16] 03(NEW) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [17:46:29] 03(mod) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit pass - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 normal->major (10Peter Bena) [17:46:55] 03(mod) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit was stored even with months old basetimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 summary (10Peter Bena) [17:47:43] 03(mod) Parse error on searches starting with an asterisk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62626 normal->major; +comment (10Dan Garry) [17:48:32] 03(mod) HG3 Build 860 added a lvl 1 warning when one already existed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61933 +comment (10Peter Bena) [17:48:34] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10benapetr) [17:48:52] 03(mod) Adding level 1 warning, even if a level 2 warning was added just 7 min ago - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62646 +comment (10Peter Bena) [17:48:54] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10benapetr) [17:49:18] 03(mod) duplicate link: is not HTML-linked to file page, not red and points to the wrong URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32606 +comment (10nischayn22) [17:49:30] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 (10Peter Bena) [17:49:34] 03(mod) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit was stored even with months old basetimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 (10Peter Bena) [17:49:59] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10benapetr) [17:51:20] 03(mod) Toggling between desktop and mobile misbehaves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61400 +comment (10Jon) [17:53:53] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 04CRIT->04BLOCKER; +comment (10Dan Garry) [17:54:28] 03(mod) language choice is different between Firefox and Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62622 +comment (10Jon) [17:57:13] Hello, how to change this sentence on my wiki:" You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address in your preferences." [18:00:18] 03(mod) The newly added section title is missing in preview when a new section is added in mobile edit of the lead (first) section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62652 +comment (10bingle-admin) [18:01:47] Hello, how to change this sentence on my wiki:" You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address in your preferences." [18:02:15] question: whe i use $output->addHtml( "äöü"); it messes up these characters, what should i do about it? [18:02:38] Guest25622: append &uselang=qqx at the end of the URL [18:03:13] Guest25622: then look at the text where that text appeared. You have to edit the page with that name in the MediaWiki: namespace [18:03:47] ? [18:04:01] Vulpix : ? [18:04:14] Guest25622: what's the question? [18:04:38] how to change this sentence on my wiki:" You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address in your preferences." ? [18:04:58] Guest25622: don't make me repeat what I've said [18:05:00] 03(mod) With compact-links beta feature, "Featured Article" and "Good Article" tags vanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62376 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:05:02] follow Vulpix's instructions, Guest25622 [18:05:05] 03(mod) With compact-links beta feature, "Featured Article" and "Good Article" tags vanish - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62376 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [18:05:27] add &uselang=qqx to the query string of the URL [18:05:36] I do not understand ... [18:05:46] damn [18:05:51] that will tell you which message should be edited [18:05:57] 03(mod) Problem with getMobileToken in MobileContext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62614 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [18:06:00] but *what* you don't understand? [18:06:43] Guest25622? [18:07:47] Guest25622: you have to add &uselang=qqx at the end of the URL on the page where you're seeing that text [18:07:55] 03(mod) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit was stored even with months old basetimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 +comment (10Umherirrender) [18:07:59] I just want to change (in my wiki interface) this sentence: " You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address in your preferences." [18:08:01] it will tell you what page you need to edit to change it [18:08:42] For pages ... automatically [18:09:07] no, you can't change sentences "automatically" [18:09:25] 03(mod) App Icon Should be 'W' not generic Android icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61259 normal->15enhancement (10Dan Garry) [18:09:43] 03(mod) basetimestamp parameter is broken? the edit was stored even with months old basetimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62651 +comment (10Brad Jorsch) [18:10:09] Just the sentence, the formatting [18:10:19] Guest25622: well, if you don't have the page with that sentence at hand, you should read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:System_message#Overriding_messages_on-wiki (but it would be more difficult to locate) [18:10:50] Ok [18:10:52] Guest25622: [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] [18:11:21] Ok [18:11:24] no, that's not it [18:11:26] .. [18:11:55] meh [18:12:28] Looks like MediaWiki:confirmedittext [18:12:55] or similar [18:14:06] 03(NEW) Android app: Log in form should have buttons on the page for "Log in" and "Cancel" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62653 normal; Wikipedia App: Generic; () [18:14:14] 03(mod) Android app: Log in form should have buttons on the page for "Log in" and "Cancel" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62653 normal->15enhancement (10Dan Garry) [18:14:32] question: whe i use $output->addHtml( "äöü"); it messes up these characters, what should i do about it? [18:16:42] Are you using Unicode encoding? [18:16:42] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10se4598) [18:17:05] 03(mod) Parse error on searches containing an exclamation point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62625 (10Nik Everett) [18:17:49] 03(mod) Android app: Log in form should have buttons on the page for "Log in" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62653 summary; +comment (10Dan Garry) [18:19:18] pir i use utf-8 [18:23:20] 03(mod) Problem with getMobileToken in MobileContext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62614 +comment (10cmcmahon) [18:30:34] pir^2, hi! [18:30:40] hi [18:30:40] Sorry that I didn�t reply earlier [18:30:45] I was afk [18:30:51] How goes it? [18:31:27] good, how are you? [18:31:39] not too bad! [18:32:23] Where were we, in our conversation? [18:33:24] don't remember [18:33:29] :) [18:33:57] 03(mod) Parse error on searches starting with an asterisk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62626 +comment (10Nik Everett) [18:34:28] pir^2, I think I was telling you how existing pages were being edited by the original code (before the if statement you added) [18:34:43] 03(mod) Backend time parser does not parse years with more than 4 digits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62648 (10Lydia Pintscher) [18:34:47] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10kwang) [18:35:07] Perhaps I should try to create a red link again and see if your fix works. I'd expect it to... [18:36:41] does anyone know why $output->addHtml( "äöü") messes up these chars? [18:37:15] imorg: as far as I know it doesn't [18:37:17] pir^2, does your browser go blank when you try to rollback edits? [18:37:23] make sure you edit the files in utf-8 [18:37:29] i do [18:37:38] robolobster: no, but maybe my thing broke it ... [18:37:50] strange [18:37:54] not sure [18:37:58] depending on type of the mess, you should be able to guess which way it broke [18:38:00] 03(mod) Ignore imperfect table syntax, or warn loudly about it getting surfaced if VEditing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62323 +comment (10gerritadmin) [18:38:05] robolobster: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page [18:38:18] it shows a square [18:38:34] ugh, that makes no sense at all [18:38:39] pir^2, roger that [18:43:49] Does anyone know how to get a syntax highlighted terminal on OSX? [18:44:04] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10dgarry) [18:44:23] robolobster: Define "syntax highlighted terminal" [18:44:43] AFAIK Terminal.app supports console colours [18:45:47] rdwrer anything that would high light different parts of the text depending on whether they are commands, files, directories... It's all black at the moment, some diversity might make it easier to read. [18:45:54] Granted, this is not the most important problem in the world :) [18:45:58] Also, hi rdwrer! :) [18:46:00] robolobster: You should try using "fsh" [18:46:02] Er. [18:46:03] "fish" [18:46:22] "Friendly Interactive SHell" IIRC [18:46:27] Ah, that looks pretty good! [18:47:16] 03(NEW) Enable GuidedTours on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62654 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [18:47:27] thanks [18:48:00] Yup! [18:48:03] My pleasure [18:48:07] I'm switching to it now too :) [18:49:19] Aha! pir^2 , it says "Notice: Undefined variable: title in /Users/robolobster/Sites/mediawiki/MyHooks.php on line 85" [18:49:24] BTW sorry that i took so long [18:49:30] hmmmmm [18:49:40] also: "Fatal error: Call to a member function exists() on a non-object in /Users/robolobster/Sites/mediawiki/MyHooks.php on line 85" [18:49:45] :/ [18:50:36] That's the if statement we added [18:50:47] the title is undefined hm [18:51:00] if ($title->exists()) continue; [18:51:04] I see [18:52:39] robolobster: not sure why it would be undefined [18:52:51] maybe you can add that check to the if stmt [18:53:43] isset($title) && $title->exists() [18:53:57] Ok [18:54:16] honestly, not sure why this would happen .. sorry robolobster [18:54:53] Oh no worries at all, this to me feels like insane progress :) [18:55:45] It works pir^2 [18:55:46] :) [18:55:48] Thank you! [18:56:58] hi jeremylee, good name :) [18:57:12] 03(mod) Tool Labs: Provide two views of the user_properties table - one filtered, one anonymized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58196 summary; +comment (10Luis Villa (WMF Legal)) [19:00:05] 03(mod) [Regression] Flow: Fatal exception "DatabaseBase::makeList: empty input for field rev_id" on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62634 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:02:09] 03(mod) Jenkins: Set up perceptual diffs (visual regression testing) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62633 (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:02:09] 03(mod) Mass rendering tests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62511 (10Gabriel Wicke) [19:02:13] pir^2, so it fixed the "page going blank" when saving some pages issue, but now, it seems like pages are not being created for new red links [19:02:31] robolobster: check showJobs.php [19:03:21] pir^2, 0 jobs [19:03:31] huh [19:03:39] So does anyone here know the best means of injecting a custom JS script into the head of wiki pages? I'm making an inline editor for tables which needs to have the script injected at some point (preferably the ). It does some black magic to turn tables into forms, then makes an Ajax request on submit to a PHP function which saves the modified page. [19:03:49] pir^2, wanted pages has 21 red links [19:03:59] justin_zw: is this for an extension? [19:04:06] Yes, an extension I'm building. [19:04:34] 03(mod) Non-friendly error message if user supplies wrong database password during install - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43528 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:04:34] 03(mod) Non-friendly error message if user supplies wrong database password during install - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43528 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:04:43] for all page loads or just editing? [19:06:42] justin_zw: you should create and register it with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResourceModules [19:07:10] and then add this when you want to load it: $wgOut->addModules( 'ext.myExtension' ); [19:08:02] pir^2, sorry, I must have misunderstood. I meant 0 jobs when I'm doing nothing (I assumed we were on the lookout for page creating jobs) [19:08:20] The problem with rolling back edits was solved by your fix, it seems. [19:08:22] "but now, it seems like pages are not being created for new red links" [19:08:38] if it hasn't happened and no jobs are waiting/running, this is a problem [19:08:46] Yes [19:08:55] Maybe all titles are undefined? [19:09:03] So it doesn't enter the loop for any page, red link or not? [19:09:09] * robolobster speculates [19:09:15] possible, I have no idea [19:11:30] pir^2: So what if I want it to load on every article view? [19:11:48] It contains event handlers for the tables. [19:12:36] justin_zw: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Server-side [19:13:08] not sure if that helps [19:15:07] 03(mod) Mobile diff provides no explanation for revdeleted diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62553 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:15:08] 03(mod) Mobile diff provides no explanation for revdeleted diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62553 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:17:57] pir^2, what are $res and $row? $row is each row in the database, pertaining to an article? [19:18:08] I think so [19:18:17] What about $res ? [19:18:27] I suppose you're looping through the entire list of articles there [19:18:37] res is the resulting "table" [19:18:47] row is each row of the table [19:20:50] So we need to find out how to tell existing pages apart from unexisting pages, just by their $title. [19:22:48] Hello, I want to participate in GSoC ,FOSS. I know java,c++,javascrpit and like to learn . Please guide me further, suggest me some good projects. Any suggestion is welcome. [19:25:05] andre__: no UX keyword, huh? [19:25:17] jeremy, why would anybody want that? [19:25:24] err jeremyb ^ [19:26:24] hir: Thanks for your interest! [19:26:26] hir, It's basically up to you to find a project that you are interested (and motivated) in. Have you found something interesting on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 ? [19:27:05] 03(mod) The newly added section title is missing in preview when a new section is added in mobile edit of the lead (first) section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62652 +comment (10jrobson) [19:27:48] 03(NEW) [[special:emailuser]] link in sidebar should not be hidden if sender is not emailconfirmed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62655 normal; MediaWiki: Email; () [19:27:51] yes. This interest me Generic, efficient Localisation Update service [19:28:10] andre__: to indicate it's related to UX? :) [19:28:28] jeremy: that's like 50% of the tickets? I really doubt there's a usecase. [19:28:30] or could be spelled out? [19:28:35] huh [19:28:36] ok [19:29:05] jeremyb: I've seen bugtrackers with a "usability" keyword and how everybody set it for everything. Since then I'm against it :) [19:29:05] (citation needed :P) [19:29:17] jeremyb: for "usability", bugzilla.gnome.org [19:29:26] and UX is close enough to usability to me [19:29:27] 03(mod) Remind users who have entered an email address, but haven't confirmed it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56074 (10jeremyb) [19:29:27] 03(mod) [[special:emailuser]] link in sidebar should not be hidden if sender is not emailconfirmed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62655 (10jeremyb) [19:29:31] andre__: was for 62655 [19:30:15] jeremyb: either Skin and Page Rendering, or Email as component, yeah :-/ [19:30:46] hir: great that you found something interesting! Any questions, or is something unclear about the steps on that wikipage? [19:31:04] andre__: i made sure the new bug shows for my earlier search :) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=email%20user%20confirmed%20sidebar [19:31:18] heh [19:32:15] huh, tags are new to me (bugzilla) [19:33:02] jeremyb, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla/Fields#Tags [19:33:05] it's new in 4.4 [19:33:15] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 (10gladjonatan) [19:33:17] i did click on it! [19:33:18] :) [19:33:30] andre_ what would i need to do for that project , enhancement of some already existed feature or new one . bit unclear about work [19:33:41] ok, i need some breakfast [19:33:45] bye :) [19:34:48] hir: Well, "what to do" is explained in the task description and the linked bug report. If it's not clear to you what to do, then you want to ask more specific questions refering to those exact sentences that you don't understand [19:35:27] pir^2, are you there? It seems like we just need to find some variable that will be different in existing pages and non-existing pages. [19:35:48] robolobster: why wouldn't Title::exists() work though? [19:36:06] 03(NEW) Searching for "one-on-one" gives error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62656 minor; MediaWiki: Search; () [19:36:16] hir: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#explicit might also be an interesting read [19:36:47] andre_ okay, i would like to explore more. thank you :) [19:38:20] 03(mod) Enable GuidedTours on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62654 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:38:24] 03(mod) Enable GuidedTours on Wikidata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62654 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:39:12] hir: I'd also recommend to give https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs a try - it (hopefully) answers common questions how to get started and some smaller tasks one could begin with [19:40:13] 03(mod) claims in diffs should link to their target - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58010 +comment (10ricordisamoa) [19:41:44] andre_ okay. Thanks [19:42:05] pir^2, perhaps a title is created once a red link is stored in the db. Formally, what is $title? Is it a variable in a page object? [19:42:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Title.php [19:45:28] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10se4598) [19:46:09] robolobster: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Title.php#Example [19:48:40] 03(mod) URL generated by {{fullurl:}} does not include mobile domain prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 summary; +comment (10Tisza Gergő) [19:51:25] 03(mod) Webupdate gives fatal error installing ConfirmAccount: Class 'ConfirmAccountUISetup' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62585 (10toye.thomas) [19:51:28] 03(mod) Add "WikiLexicalData" component to "MediaWiki extensions" product in Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62472 +comment (10aklapper) [19:55:38] 03(mod) URL generated by {{fullurl:}} does not include mobile domain prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 +comment (10Jon) [19:55:39] 03(mod) {{fullurl:}} does not resolve to commons.m.wikimedia.org but to commons.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50399 +comment (10Jon) [19:58:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing tab does not take the cursor to the next field/parameter in a template dialog box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61529 (10ryasmeen) [19:59:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: No scroll bar appears in keyboard shortcut page after resizing the window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60180 (10ryasmeen) [20:00:06] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 (10gladjonatan) [20:01:33] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Undoing creation of empty heading places cursor at invalid offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62088 (10ryasmeen) [20:05:40] 03(mod) URL generated by {{fullurl:}} does not include mobile domain prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62640 +comment (10gtisza) [20:07:22] 03(mod) Rename (remove?) shell user "80686" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61967 +comment (10tim) [20:10:15] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Pressing tab on a slug throws error "Cannot call method 'getParent' of null" and does not go to the next line or next item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62657 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [20:16:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing tab on a slug throws error "Cannot call method 'getParent' of null" and does not go to the next line or next item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62657 (10James Forrester) [20:29:18] 03(mod) Migrate Labs from pmtpa to eqiad data-center (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62042 (10Andre Klapper) [20:29:18] 03(NEW) Migrate Bugzilla Labs instances to new datacenter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62658 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [20:35:25] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [20:40:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 (10ryasmeen) [20:40:36] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 (10ryasmeen) [20:42:45] 03(mod) Labs-vagrant is very slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62551 +comment (10gtisza) [20:50:32] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10rainerrillke) [20:58:13] 03(mod) Create l10nupdate user in ldap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62595 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [21:00:38] 03(mod) Italics and bold: multiple quote sequences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62569 +comment (10cananian) [21:01:06] 03(mod) raise account creation limit for pt.wikipedia event (2014-03-13 — 2014-03-14) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62582 +comment (10salvadorense) [21:06:59] 03(NEW) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [21:07:43] 03(NEW) Echo: Emailed Notifications for new usertalkpage messages should include more or all of the message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62661 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Echo; () [21:08:15] 03(mod) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 +comment (10aklapper) [21:09:25] 03(NEW) Hide 'Platform' and 'Hardware' fields for Wikipedia app product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62662 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; () [21:10:41] 03(mod) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 +comment (10aklapper) [21:10:47] 03(mod) Searching for "one-on-one" gives error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62656 +comment (10jonesey95) [21:11:11] 03(mod) Deploy repo has two invalid json files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62490 +comment (10gerritadmin) [21:11:14] 03(mod) Deploy repo has two invalid json files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62490 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [21:11:56] 03(NEW) Invalid extension attribute encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62663 normal; Parsoid: General; () [21:14:59] 03(NEW) WTS crasher on invalid serialized attribute - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62664 normal; Parsoid: serializer; () [21:15:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 (10ryasmeen) [21:15:26] 03(mod) Invalid extension attribute encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62663 +comment (10cananian) [21:15:51] 03(mod) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 +comment (10aklapper) [21:15:54] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 (10ryasmeen) [21:20:48] robla: heh, I read "We're replacing Bugzilla with RT" and went "whaaaaaaaaaat?!" [21:23:33] 03(NEW) Some W0 Dashboards do not show data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62665 normal; Analytics: Limn Dashboards; () [21:23:38] <^d> trollolol [21:23:51] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf19] Media Settings icon is not clickable since it got overlayed by image highlight box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62659 normal->04CRIT; summary (10James Forrester) [21:26:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Pressing tab on a slug throws error "Cannot call method 'getParent' of null" and does not go to the next line or next item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62657 (10James Forrester) [21:26:50] 03(mod) Ignore imperfect table syntax, or warn loudly about it getting surfaced if VEditing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62323 (10ssastry) [21:27:15] wait what [21:27:21] it does saythat?! [21:27:37] lolwat [21:27:52] ^d: I thought I misread and it actually said "replicating" [21:34:10] 03(mod) Parse error on searches containing an exclamation point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62625 +comment (10Nik Everett) [21:34:17] 03(mod) Parse error on searches starting with an asterisk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62626 +comment (10Nik Everett) [21:35:57] 03(mod) relevant search result excerpts: prefer first sentence of article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61669 +upstream (10Nik Everett) [21:36:03] 03(mod) relevant search result excerpts: prefer first sentence of article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61669 (10Nik Everett) [21:43:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Image can be resized down beyond 1x1px where user can no more find the image and Media Settings icon for it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61973 (10ryasmeen) [21:44:45] 03(mod) Use a ContentHandler-based backend for MassMessage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62601 (10wctaiwan) [21:44:45] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression] Image can be resized down beyond 1x1px where user can no more find the image and Media Settings icon for it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61973 (10ryasmeen) [21:45:42] 03(mod) Problem with getMobileToken in MobileContext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62614 +comment (10arichards) [21:47:28] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression-pre-wmf17] Styling on "New Page" and "Matching Pages" messages inside Link Inspector missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62226 (10ryasmeen) [21:49:58] JeroenDeDauw: xlnt! :-) seems to have had its intended effect if the anecdotal evidence around the SF office applies globally [21:50:41] ....which is, of course 1) making people jump out of their chairs and a distant 2) making people read the pages [21:52:22] 03(mod) Images: Invalid image parameter gets removed, but so does a valid one next to it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62500 (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:52:34] 03(mod) Images: upscaling doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62501 (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:53:05] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression wmf16] Floated images of type "none" display as only a couple of pixels wide, not full-size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62013 (10ryasmeen) [21:53:39] 03(NEW) Support 'upright' image option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62666 normal; Parsoid: General; () [21:53:59] 03(mod) Support 'upright' image option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62666 (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:53:59] 03(mod) Image / media handling tracker bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54844 (10C. Scott Ananian) [21:56:32] 03(mod) "This Connection is Untrusted" alert by https://www.[langcode].wikipedia.org/ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62181 +comment (10seb35wikipedia) [21:58:21] 03(mod) Deploy repo has two invalid json files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62490 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:01:12] 03(mod) Flow: Remove square brackets ("[" and "]") from Flow-related URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56196 (10spage) [22:01:59] 03(mod) www.[langcode].wikipedia.org is not included in the X.509 certificate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62181 summary (10Seb35) [22:02:01] 03(NEW) Deploy (scap and other) aren't showing up in graphite/gdash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62667 normal; Wikimedia: Deployment systems; () [22:02:05] 03(mod) Port igbinary extension to HHVM - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61227 (10Aaron Schulz) [22:02:28] 03(NEW) Accessibility: Text typed into search box now not visible when using white text on black. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62668 normal; MediaWiki: Search; () [22:02:32] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a over-ride thumbnail (thumb=…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62669 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:02:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:04:08] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a over-ride thumbnail (thumb=…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62669 (10James Forrester) [22:04:44] 03(mod) Deploy (scap and other) aren't showing up in graphite/gdash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62667 +comment (10Bryan Davis) [22:04:45] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set an item's alignment (baseline/middle/…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62670 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:04:46] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:05:14] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set an item's alignment (baseline/middle/…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62670 (10James Forrester) [22:05:49] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set an item's size in upright terms in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62671 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:05:50] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:05:50] 03(mod) Support 'upright' image option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62666 (10James Forrester) [22:06:26] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a over-ride link target (link=…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62672 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:06:27] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:08:24] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a non-image multi-paged item's display page (page=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62673 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:08:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:09:15] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item to not show an icon (noicon) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62674 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:09:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:09:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item to not show an icon (noicon) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62674 (10James Forrester) [22:10:12] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's start position (start=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62675 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:12:53] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's start position (start=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62675 (10James Forrester) [22:13:09] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's thumb position (thumbtime=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62676 enhancement; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:13:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's thumb position (thumbtime=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62676 (10James Forrester) [22:13:56] 03(mod) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 +comment (10yuvipanda) [22:14:46] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Merge the media editing and gallery editing dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62677 enhancement; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; () [22:15:00] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Merge the media editing and gallery editing dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62677 (10James Forrester) [22:15:14] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: Make CE-surface fixes to make TMH's media items display correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62678 normal; VisualEditor: ContentEditable; () [22:15:43] 03(mod) Searching for "one-on-one" gives error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62656 +comment (10Chad H.) [22:16:18] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialog to manipulate image properties (type, alignment, border, size, caption, alt text) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38129 +comment (10James Forrester) [22:16:20] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to switch image used whilst maintaining the caption and other settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51033 (10James Forrester) [22:16:21] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Set image alignment in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51293 (10James Forrester) [22:16:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialogs do not horizontally scroll in narrow windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51755 (10James Forrester) [22:16:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Have a "remove from page" button in media settings dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51764 (10James Forrester) [22:16:24] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media settings dialog should show a preview of the media item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52461 (10James Forrester) [22:16:31] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Support media (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37870 (10James Forrester) [22:16:32] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Ability to switch image used whilst maintaining the caption and other settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51033 (10James Forrester) [22:16:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Set image alignment in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51293 (10James Forrester) [22:16:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Dialogs do not horizontally scroll in narrow windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51755 (10James Forrester) [22:16:35] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Have a "remove from page" button in media settings dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51764 (10James Forrester) [22:16:37] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Media settings dialog should show a preview of the media item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52461 (10James Forrester) [22:16:38] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's start position (start=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62675 (10James Forrester) [22:16:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a multimedia item's thumb position (thumbtime=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62676 (10James Forrester) [22:16:41] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Merge the media editing and gallery editing dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62677 (10James Forrester) [22:16:44] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Make CE-surface fixes to make TMH's media items display correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62678 (10James Forrester) [22:18:14] 03(mod) Searching for "one-on-one" gives error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62656 +comment (10PiRSquared17) [22:18:17] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Make CE-surface fixes to make TMH's media items display correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62678 (10James Forrester) [22:18:26] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a non-image multi-paged item's display page (page=) in the media dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62673 (10James Forrester) [22:18:34] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set a over-ride link target (link=…) in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62672 (10James Forrester) [22:18:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Be able to set an item's size in upright terms in the media edit dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62671 (10James Forrester) [22:21:27] 03(mod) Security review of GlobalCssJs extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58438 +comment (10csteipp) [22:35:52] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: The message that appears while adding a template with no description should use the readable form of template name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62679 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [22:37:49] 03(mod) Create an API for Extension:ShortURL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36520 +comment (10daniel) [22:38:12] 03(mod) Invalid extension attribute encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62663 (10ssastry) [22:38:19] 03(mod) Add support for datasets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62555 +comment (10filceolaire) [22:39:29] Hi. Is there a way I can put an image on a wiki page that is on an external website? [22:41:15] <^d> !wg AllowExternalImages [22:41:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowExternalImages [22:41:37] Thank you. :) [22:43:14] <^d> You're welcome [22:43:34] 03(mod) mysqli: Non-standard port handling broken (explicit parameter int $port expected) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58153 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:47:15] 03(mod) $wgShortUrlTemplate option not functional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61838 +comment (10Daniel Norton) [22:48:28] 03(mod) LocalFilePurgeThumbnails hook occurs after thumbnails cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62273 +comment (10gerritadmin) [22:51:44] 03(mod) Non Core API issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23855 +comment (10Daniel Norton) [23:06:45] 03(mod) Invalid extension attribute encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62663 +comment (10gerritadmin) [23:06:47] 03(mod) Invalid extension attribute encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62663 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [23:08:38] 03(mod) Text typed into search box not visible when using white text on black. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62668 +accessibility +code-update-regression; summary (10Andre Klapper) [23:09:57] 03(mod) Redo 'versions' for the Wikipedia app component - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62660 +comment (10aklapper) [23:14:11] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Image as part of the anchor of a link is stripped on round-trip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62473 normal->major; summary (10James Forrester) [23:14:15] 03(NEW) CirrusSearch: Remove the ability to search without redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62680 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CirrusSearch; () [23:14:35] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Remove the ability to search without redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62680 normal->15enhancement (10Dan Garry) [23:20:11] 03(mod) CirrusSearch: Remove the ability to search without redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62680 +comment (10Dan Garry) [23:39:17] 03(mod) Maintenance scripts break with certain multi-byte titles entered on the Windows command line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8963 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:40:01] 03(mod) Allow custom sidebars or custom links in interwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8137 (10Andre Klapper) [23:45:10] 03(mod) Non-admins are able to see the title and edit summary of posts that are within deleted topics in Flow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62561 major->normal (10Maryana Pinchuk)