[00:07:46] 03(NEW) VisualEditor: The image highlight box is not getting redrawn properly while changing image type to thumbnail/frame - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62681 normal; VisualEditor: Editing Tools; () [00:12:41] 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 summary; +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:19:39] 03(NEW) Provide clean interface for rendering detached CE nodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62682 normal; VisualEditor: Technical Debt; () [00:20:12] 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 +comment (10umar.dagirov) [00:20:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Provide a clean interface for rendering detached CE nodes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62682 normal->15enhancement; summary (10James Forrester) [00:30:36] 03(NEW) Flow: remove "title" element from textarea boxes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62683 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [00:33:26] 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [00:34:56] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Cannot read property cleardiff of null " appearing while switching to Edit Source mode from VE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62544 (10ryasmeen) [00:35:02] 03(NEW) Transfer basictestsugar to equiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62684 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [00:35:03] 03(mod) Migrate Labs from pmtpa to eqiad data-center (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62042 (10James Alexander) [00:37:08] 03(mod) Some Echo issues of GENDER and untranslatability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61904 +comment (10Bawolff (Brian Wolff)) [00:40:13] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Apply changes" label should be replaced with "Insert template/reflist" when inserting template/reflist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50998 (10ryasmeen) [00:43:03] 03(mod) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 +comment (10gerritadmin) [00:46:50] 03(mod) Javascript exception thrown after an edit on stable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62630 (10Jon) [00:55:05] 03(mod) Flow: Deleted topic gives "An unexpected error occurred." message elements in watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62506 +comment (10Quiddity) [01:11:26] 03(mod) MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62607 (10Nemo) [01:11:30] 03(mod) For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54731 (10Nemo) [01:17:40] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getChildren' of null appears while going to a newline after deleting an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62235 (10ryasmeen) [01:20:19] 03(mod) VisualEditor: When an image has a full size which is smaller than the default size, it does not set the default size to the value of full size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62293 (10ryasmeen) [01:21:15] 03(mod) VisualEditor: [Regression pre-wmf18] Cannot read property 'saveDialogSave' of undefined appearing when saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62508 (10ryasmeen) [01:32:23] 03(NEW) Remove link to WMF privacy policy on OAuth Authorize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62686 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAuth; () [01:39:34] 03(NEW) Add warning for user on /authorize about privacy policy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62687 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAuth; () [01:42:35] 03(NEW) Add developer agreement when they register their app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62688 normal; MediaWiki extensions: OAuth; () [02:07:32] 03(NEW) Flow: tipsy 'w'est gravity adds a visible dot 9999 pixels down the browser window - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62689 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [04:46:33] while clonig to core.git an error pops up saying fatal: the remote end hung up unexpectedly [04:46:41] fatal: early EOF [04:46:41] fatal: index-pack failed [04:47:19] pls help [04:52:19] 03(NEW) Merge mediawiki.libs.guiders into rest of GuidedTour - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62690 normal; MediaWiki extensions: GuidedTour; () [05:08:33] hello, i have trying to produce Bug 54749 in my local environment , but haven't been able to. i am getting this error http://fpaste.org/85594/13948599/, i have added $wgThumbnailScriptPath = "{$wgScriptPath}/thumb{$wgScriptExtension}"; in LocalSettings.php, any suggestion. [05:39:59] 03(mod) raise account creation limit for pt.wikipedia event (2014-03-13 — 2014-03-14) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62582 +comment (10This, that and the other) [06:20:38] I want to download the stable of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [06:21:13] but it seems that it doesn't offer a link to stable verison in that pager but only the snapshot version [06:43:54] 03(mod) For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54731 +comment (10Liangent) [06:44:53] 03(mod) For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54731 (10Liangent) [06:46:19] 03(mod) For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54731 -need-volunteer -testme -upstream (10Liangent) [07:08:03] 03(mod) Wikidata Outreach - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61991 (10helenhalbert) [07:12:16] 03(mod) Non-friendly error message if user supplies wrong database password during install - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43528 +comment (10gerritadmin) [07:28:42] 03(mod) Flow: Reference numbers in Parsoid output aren't superscripted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60017 (10spage) [07:59:30] How does one get the dropdown language selector tool to also affect the content on the page (provided it has been translated) It works on http://translatewiki.net/ [07:59:54] Is there a trick to universialLanguageSelctor to do that? [08:10:24] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21#MediaWiki_1.21.2 just says "translations" ...? [08:19:13] 03(NEW) Flow: Parsoid ref handling broken by tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62691 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Flow; () [08:21:54] 03(mod) Flow: Reference numbers in Parsoid output aren't superscripted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60017 (10spage) [08:26:16] 03(mod) Add easy to use svg editor to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62562 +comment (10juandevojnikov) [08:30:26] 03(NEW) Previous languages not being updated on selecting a new language in compact links beta feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62692 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UniversalLanguageSelector; () [08:31:52] 03(mod) Review and deploy SVGEdit extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38271 +comment (10juandevojnikov) [08:34:33] 03(NEW) eqiad instances are not showing in labs ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62693 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Infrastructure; () [08:53:06] 03(mod) Investigate noto font as potential replacement for diverse font families. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59983 (10Nemo) [09:04:05] This doesnt actually work http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps_examples/OpenLayers_searchmarkers [09:06:16] comradekingu: Could you explain the problem in a bit more detail, on #mediawiki-i18n? [09:09:20] Nikerabbit: ok, thanks. [09:10:00] Hi, all my users are spam bots. I stopped them with OpenId and deleted all the pages with the mass edit extension. How can I get rid of the spam bots user accounts? Thanks [09:13:15] b_d_m_p: User_Merge_and_Delete [09:22:30] p858snake, thanks. Is that the UserMerge extensiion? [09:23:31] apparently it is these days [09:23:34] thanks. Is that the UserMerge extension? [09:23:35] Ok [09:23:43] I don't see how to mass delete. [09:23:50] Do you happen to know how it works? [09:24:13] Did you read the extension page [09:24:17] ? [09:24:28] Yes [09:25:27] On StackOverflow someone recommended, but said they didn't know if it could do mass merging. The page doesn't mention it. [09:26:47] 03(mod) raise account creation limit for pt.wikipedia event (2014-03-13 — 2014-03-14) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62582 (10Tomasz W. Kozlowski) [09:27:03] 03(mod) raise account creation limit for pt.wikipedia event (2014-03-13 — 2014-03-14) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62582 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:34:01] 03(mod) Review and deploy SVGEdit extension to Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38271 +comment (10brettz9) [09:46:59] 03(mod) Previous languages not being updated on selecting a new language in compact links beta feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62692 +comment (10gerritadmin) [09:46:59] 03(mod) Previous languages not being updated on selecting a new language in compact links beta feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62692 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:06:14] 03(mod) Special:CreateProperty / log message after property creation (2.4.2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35370 +comment (10gerritadmin) [10:06:14] 03(mod) Special:CreateProperty / log message after property creation (2.4.2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35370 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [10:22:05] p858snake|l: BlockandNuke did it http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BlockandNuke [10:56:13] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10benapetr) [10:56:13] how can we get "link to the announcement of your proposal at the [[mail:wikitech-l|wikitech-l mailing list]]" for gsoc proposal. [10:59:41] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 +comment (10benapetr) [11:12:12] 03(mod) Translatable page header is at the bottom of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40694 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:14:21] question: which hook to use to addhtml after the textarea from EditPage::showEditForm:fields ? [11:17:39] channel topic outdated, as usual :P [11:27:19] 03(mod) Please install Postgresql on Tool-labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48896 (10Nemo) [11:27:19] 03(mod) Missing Toolserver features in Tools (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58791 (10Nemo) [11:29:04] 03(mod) Start watch animation on submit when watchdefault is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58534 +comment (10Fomafix) [11:36:31] Vulpix: no, it's the release being wrong ;) [11:40:56] 03(mod) Translatable page header is at the bottom of the page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/40694 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:05:15] 03(mod) Start watch animation on submit when watchdefault is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58534 +comment (10mybugs.mail) [12:08:12] 03(mod) Switch to "Hide/Show editors user_groups" in Recent Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29963 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:08:13] 03(mod) Filter Recent Changes by user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4664 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:17:42] 03(mod) User group detection from user pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12526 +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:20:48] 03(mod) Identify links to new users in page histories, watchlists and recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11800 summary; +comment (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:20:55] 03(mod) User groups in user link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/42314 (10Jesús Martínez Novo (Ciencia Al Poder)) [12:28:37] 03(mod) Please enable ULS webfonts by default at Hebrew Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60939 +comment (10gerritadmin) [12:37:08] 03(mod) Sortable search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38403 +comment (10Daniel Naber) [12:38:19] 03(mod) files of mimetype with unknown file extension are automatically allowed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22934 (10Marco) [12:38:22] 03(mod) Upload verification check broken. mp4 uploaded as .ogg - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/39012 (10Marco) [12:39:32] 03(NEW) Description of tags "VisualEditor: Check" and "VisualEditor: Switched" are hard to translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62694 normal; VisualEditor: MediaWiki integration; () [12:57:13] 03(mod) Request for maillist for DrTrigonBot - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61427 +comment (10dr.trigon) [13:03:18] Hi [13:04:29] a want to embed youtube video on my mediawiki - but with precise time start [13:04:45] any advice how to do it? [13:06:22] slk500: have a look at this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTube [13:07:17] slk500, youtube embed code allows that. If you click embed on youtube, it allowed you to choose a start time, then simply input your desired start and copy html code over. [13:09:10] aalekhN: already tried this plugin - it is without precise start time [13:10:12] Aurora_Grimes: I know YouTube allows that, but I want to embed video on medawiki site - ok it works as a link but dont work if I want to embed [13:11:22] there are few other extensions all of which are listed here:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:YouTube_extensions [13:11:57] ����� �� ������ �����?) [13:14:33] already read all his [13:14:39] *this [13:14:51] but still I dont have a solution [13:17:57] 03(mod) VisualEditor: CSS to add numbers to reference list items it vertically misaligned (should be top not bottom?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61423 +comment (10santosh.cool.reddy) [13:22:11] Does anyone know how a $title variable might differ when it corresponds to an existing page vs when it corresponds to a red link? [13:22:39] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" - cancel-arrow needs a tooltip; possibly replace with an "X"? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49147 +comment (10santosh reddy) [13:23:36] robolobster: if the page exists, $title->exists() should return true. :) [13:23:57] 03(mod) [RDF] Feature request: Ability to create and modify template calls via RDFIO. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61999 +comment (10zahara) [13:24:15] MatmaRex apparently the title also exists for red links [13:24:50] i'm pretty sure that's not possible, unless the page was created "in the meantime" [13:25:22] if anything, ->exists() might return false in some cases where you would expect a true, quoting the docs: "For historical reasons, this function simply checks for the existence of the title in the page table, and will thus return false for interwiki links, special pages and the like. If you want to know if a title can be meaningfully viewed, you should probably call the isKnown() method instead." [13:26:37] MatmaRex thanks. What does it mean by "if a title can be meaningfully viewed"? [13:27:06] heh, i don't think that has a definition [13:27:12] but looking at the code that checks this… [13:27:58] this will return true if the Title is an interwiki link, an existing file (even with possibly missing file page), valid special page title, valid MediaWiki: message or a self-link [13:28:09] the code i'm using currently uses the condition "if (isset($title) && $title->exists()) continue; " [13:28:28] (The goal being, do not execute the following code if this is an existing page) [13:28:44] I see [13:28:56] interwiki link means a link from wiki page to wiki page? [13:31:33] I just looked up interwiki link, got it. [13:38:47] does the {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} magic word output the number of rows the 'user' table has or how many accounts have been created on the wiki? [13:39:11] or how many actions have been made by users on that wiki [13:39:44] Because I have a wikifarm with a shared user table and the {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} magic word outputs different values on each project [13:40:53] For example this one says 78 users http://cuusoo.brickimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Recentchanges-summary yet this one says 1779 users http://meta.brickimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext [13:41:08] and this one says 2,121 users http://en.brickimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext [13:41:49] There are 2190 rows in the shared user table as well [13:57:30] andre_:are you there? [13:57:50] aalekhN, likely [13:58:32] do you remember conversation we were having about localization with the help of wiktionary? [13:59:01] 03(mod) Filter for New User uploads in Mobile Web - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62598 +comment (10steinsplitter-wiki) [13:59:38] well to solve localization issue i have found a useful resource:http://www.computing.dcu.ie/~mforcada/fosmt.html [14:00:03] do you think to use these open source tool would be a good idea? [14:05:06] Is there a way to recover my mediawiki database password if I have forgotten it? [14:07:52] that's a question on a database level I guess [14:13:23] robolobster: you meant the mysql password ? [14:13:29] tonythomas, yes [14:14:04] robolobster: This might be useful https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html [14:14:52] thanks tonythomas. Is there a way to try out passwords, to see if I actually remember it? [14:15:08] Any old harmless command that requires the password would do... I think I remember the username. [14:15:08] robolobster: you on linux ? [14:15:13] OSX [14:15:14] OSX [14:15:19] oops. Sorry sorry. [14:15:24] robolobster: in linux its [14:15:34] mysql -u -p [14:15:52] try it in a mac terminal [14:16:06] robolobster: might work. or google for an equivalent [14:16:29] tonythomas, thanks, it's asking me for the passowrd. What happens if I enter the correct one? [14:16:48] you get the mysql> prompt [14:16:56] ah! right. Thanks tonythomas [14:16:57] else some access denied message, I sspose [14:17:10] robolobster: np :) [14:17:10] oh! [14:17:32] hold on! I typed mysql -u wikiuser [14:17:39] and hit enter, and im in mysql prompt [14:17:45] mysql> [14:18:02] Is that normal? What does that mean, that I could enter the mysql prompt without entering the password? [14:18:06] looks like you never set a password for user wikiuser [14:18:14] Hmm I see [14:18:16] you sure that the user wikiuser have necessary privelages ? [14:18:36] Thats correct. I've tried to do it yoru way: mysql -u wikiuser -p [14:18:46] Just hit enter when it asks for the password. an I'm in [14:18:54] robolobster: you should try https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/set-password.html [14:20:09] Thanks tonythomas. One more thing, how can I see which mysql user my wiki is using? [14:20:19] So if I change the password, I can update the password that the wiki uses [14:20:19] I have a problem with Extensions download, for example Extension:LDAP Authentication, its status is stable but I don't find a download link beside snapshot version [14:20:23] (I suppose) [14:20:34] robolobster: you can open your LocalSettings.php [14:20:43] robolobster: something like db_user will be there [14:21:19] robolobster: its $wgDBuser [14:21:23] Ah! thanks [14:21:37] robolobster: anytime [14:21:52] Aha! here it is! the password too. Thanks a lot tonythomas for all the help :) [14:22:11] robolobster: looks like we should have went there the first time ;) [14:22:59] Well, the journey was edifying! :) [14:23:06] I have to get lunch, I'l be back later! [14:24:49] !e LDAP Authentication [14:24:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [14:25:37] robolobster: ok [14:25:39] ayaka: what's wrong with that download link? [14:35:26] Vulpix, it doesn't offer a link to the stable version [14:37:27] aalekhN: so I get "The address isn't valid" when clicking "resource:http://www.computing.dcu.ie/~mforcada/fosmt.html" and I'm pretty lazy copying and pasting URLs manually ;) [14:37:27] 03(NEW) Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62695 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [14:37:37] 03(mod) Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62695 (10dacuetu) [14:38:31] oops,my mistake take this : http://www.computing.dcu.ie/~mforcada/fosmt.html [14:39:24] ayaka: there's one "stable" version for each MediaWiki version [14:39:42] that's what the snapshot is for [14:40:13] aalekhN, and that page is from which year? [14:40:15] Vulpix, I see [14:40:21] Vulpix, thank you [14:40:30] yw [14:41:10] aalekhN: and that page would solve some "localization issue" how? [14:41:19] aalekhN, I don't get the question I'm afraid. [14:44:11] ok to be specific can apertium ,link: http://www.apertium.org/ be used in mediawiki to translate words like:"cats","glasses" into different languages ? [14:44:36] * andre__ has a hard time reading with that punctuation [14:44:36] 03(mod) Transfer basictestsugar to equiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62684 +comment (10abogott) [14:44:47] extension i am planing to build would require translation of different such words [14:44:51] how the hell do i de-'creat / de-sysop myself? [14:45:02] aalekhN: I don't know. I haven't tried Apertium. [14:45:06] the special page has both options greyed out [14:45:15] i am such a noob, don't tell anyone [14:45:38] ori: if they're greyed out, you can't, but I guess you already got to that conclusion :P [14:45:43] ori: We won't let you go that easily from your sysop duties, sorry ;) [14:45:51] lol [14:46:36] aalekhN, plus I'm not sure which problem you're trying to solve. [14:48:26] 03(mod) Transfer basictestsugar to equiad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62684 (10Andrew Bogott) [14:48:33] 03(NEW) Label language indicator/selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62696 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikidataRepo; () [14:49:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN/GSoC_proposal_2014#Scope_of_Work [14:49:59] 03(mod) Label language indicator/selector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62696 (10dacuetu) [14:50:01] bah i did it on my own [14:50:03] 03(mod) Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52136 (10dacuetu) [14:50:13] aalekhN, that's a link to a wikipage. My question was which problem you're trying to solve. [14:50:20] aalekhN, I won't read all that, sorry [14:50:36] 03(mod) Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62695 (10dacuetu) [14:50:37] 03(mod) Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52136 (10dacuetu) [14:50:54] $user = User::newFromName('Ori.livneh'); $user->removeGroup('sysop'); $user->removeGroup('bureaucrat'); $user->saveSettings(); [14:50:57] aalekhN: clicking the Apertium link, I see support for a dozen languages or so. I guess that already implies some questions you could ask yourself [14:51:09] here is the link to my proposal where i need make captcha multilingual , so in order to translate words like:"cats","glasses" i plan to use Apertium [14:51:34] aalekhN, Apertium supports how many languages? [14:52:07] aalekhN, where is Apertium's API documented? Any link? [14:52:26] Apertium ,supports 10-15 languages [14:54:01] since apertium translates few languages ,i am trying to ask is it good to use this apertium which support only few languages [14:54:12] http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Main_Page [14:54:24] http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Documentation [14:57:36] http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Apertium_web_service [14:57:49] ^provides link to api of apertium [14:58:49] aalekhN, so I guess that's stuff you might want to play with. I personally don't see much sense if there's only support for a dozen of languages, but again, I'm not a mentor [14:59:02] 03(mod) thumb.php should output docs if no file specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54749 +comment (10Rahul Mishra) [15:01:12] ok, thanks :) i will keep looking at more services with more language support [15:06:13] hi. what do they mean by Microtasks on GSoC announcement page(inside the table) [15:39:44] 03(mod) thumb.php should output docs if no file specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54749 +comment (1001tonythomas) [15:46:24] Noticed that .gitignore file wont get automatically cloned when you clone https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Wikibase via ssh [15:46:31] can anyone too confirm this ? [15:46:57] sorry, I meant .gitreview [15:51:13] tonythomas: yes, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/git-review could be hepful to explain this [15:53:03] aalekhN: but, you would've noticed that when you clone using git clone ssh://USERNAME@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/extensions/EXTENSION.git would automatically create that :) [15:54:22] Hi guys! [15:54:43] I need some help with file uploads: Which file types should I allow? [15:54:56] Would it e.g. be save to allow uploading zip files? [15:55:01] yes it is not created it automatically . when i was installing .git-review i manually created a file .git-review and inserted the two lines there :) [15:55:28] i think rahul is having trouble instlling git-review [15:55:35] *installing [15:57:51] Joergi: zip files are not safe, since you can upload anything on it [16:00:37] 03(NEW) mw-config call back error after updating from 1.22.2 to 1.22.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62697 critical; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; () [16:00:46] aalekhN: You would've noticed that all your other extension clones produce that automatically, and thats the way, so that new users can just give git review after preparing the patch, and things go alright :) [16:04:18] 03(mod) mw-config call back error after updating from 1.22.2 to 1.22.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62697 +comment (10jerrygerstmann) [16:10:55] Vulpix: You mean like exe files or so? [16:11:24] Joergi: yes [16:11:45] Vulpix: Ok, what about other file types? XML? HTML? [16:13:29] only images are safe, since MediaWiki can somewhat check if they're valid images [16:15:07] I don't understand that. Say I have a text file (TXT or maybe HTML). What is the problem with it? It's only text... [16:16:02] 03(mod) Special:CreateProperty / log message after property creation (2.4.2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35370 +comment (10Pawan Seerwani) [16:16:45] you think it's text, but the browser may interpret it as something else. Imagine someone uploads an .exe with a .txt extension [16:17:14] Internet Explorer sometimes open files looking at what's their contents, not the extension [16:17:47] or the extension can be faked ina URL by adding a randm query string to it, like yourfile.txt?ext.exe [16:18:02] 03(mod) Files missing from mediawiki 1.19.13 release tarball (test directory and two xcf files) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62631 normal->minor (10Andre Klapper) [16:22:50] Vulpix: You say that it's text, but IE opens it as if it was something else? If I were a malicious guy, what would I do? How would I exploit that? [16:24:29] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" - cancel-arrow needs a tooltip; possibly replace with an "X"? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49147 +comment (10aklapper) [16:26:25] I still don't understand the security problem with uploading files. Maybe someone else can help me: [16:26:50] Say there is a user, who uploads an exe file, but with a txt extension. Where is the problem? [16:32:50] if someone tries to download the file, some browsers may automatically open it [16:34:24] Joergi: say you upload some HTML+JS code, with a different extension. if someone visits the file page (e.g. is given a link to it), and if the browser interprets it as HTML+JS (even if it's, say, a .jpg), it will run the JS code, allowing the attacker to (usually) do anything with the account of the visitor. [16:35:51] huh, MatmaRex: So this in fact is a browser bug (IE). But, I see: There is no real need to make it exploitable, if one can prevent that... [16:36:06] Which are the file types, that can be abused? What you write makes it sound like it is basicall any text format? [16:36:22] _basically_ [16:36:47] well, i'm not an expert on that stuff and i'd really hate to give bad advice on security matters [16:36:52] but afaik yes, it's basically any format [16:40:27] So unsecure would e.g. be XML XLF (that's some kind of XML), TXT, DIFF, CSS, JS [16:40:49] 03(mod) Collection: credits of images should list only the uploaders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62121 +comment (10prlpz) [16:42:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" - cancel-arrow needs a tooltip; possibly replace with an "X"? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49147 +comment (10santosh.cool.reddy) [16:43:05] What about other formats? [16:43:31] I understand that zips are a security problem (as basically anthing can be in them). [16:44:00] 03(NEW) feature request - make it possible to specify what to do on edit conflict - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62698 normal; MediaWiki: API; () [16:44:04] So what about Office formats: OpenOffice (SXW) is a zip file... [16:44:27] 03(mod) feature request - make it possible to specify what to do on edit conflict - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62698 normal->15enhancement (10Peter Bena) [16:44:31] 03(mod) Adding level 2 warning, even if level 2 warning exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59982 (10Peter Bena) [16:44:51] 03(mod) feature request - make it possible to specify what to do on edit conflict on action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62698 summary (10Peter Bena) [16:44:54] Joergi: why do you need to upload files in these formats? [16:45:50] huh: I have a wiki where people did that in the past. Don't ask me why it got allowed; the point is: It _is_ allowed. [16:46:24] I just want to close potential security holes - but actually I don't know, where there are any... [16:47:21] For example with sxw files: These _are_ zip files. So: Are they insecure as well? The file extension is sxw, not zip... [16:54:44] 03(mod) [[Special:Log/eparticle]] does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48495 +comment (10Ad Huikeshoven) [16:57:42] 03(mod) Add support for datasets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62555 (10dacuetu) [16:57:46] 03(mod) Add and use parser function for signature timestamps (four/five tildes) to show them to the user in preferred locale and timezone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25476 +comment (10Ad Huikeshoven) [17:09:50] 03(mod) mw-config call back error after updating from 1.22.2 to 1.22.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62697 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [17:11:20] 03(mod) Make it possible to specify what to do on edit conflict on action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62698 summary (10Andre Klapper) [17:12:13] ey [17:12:17] Hi. [17:12:26] how I can set up my wiki [17:12:49] installing mediawiki and conver it in semantic wiki [17:13:27] Rosa_desierto_: just install MW, then install SMW plugin as per instructions on semantic-mediawiki.org [17:13:42] o.OÇ [17:13:48] just? [17:13:48] and you can ask MW questions here, SMW questions in #semantic-mediawiki [17:13:51] çis difficult [17:13:58] step by step please [17:14:22] if the setup instructions are really too difficult, you should consider not using it [17:14:39] because after installation you should be able to maintain it yourself [17:14:59] but I need to learn! [17:15:02] or maybe create a sandbox installation, play around until it's no longer too difficult [17:15:22] if I don't know something the easy way is learn it [17:15:35] aha and how can I do that [17:15:50] create an MW installation following http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation [17:16:15] don't start on SMW yet until you're at least somewhat comfortable in MW configuration and administration [17:16:25] ok [17:17:01] so, first I install MediaWiki 1.22.4 [17:17:42] sounds like a plan :-) [17:18:33] hahahaa yes a plan for the death of WMF [17:18:39] (was a lie) [17:18:44] ? [17:18:47] o_O [17:21:21] well, I instal it or not [17:22:15] *install [17:22:19] that's up to you [17:25:01] but it's the first step ? [17:25:57] Rosa_desierto_: yes [17:26:08] ok, please help me more time [17:26:30] 03(mod) Add and use parser function for signature timestamps (four/five tildes) to show them to the user in preferred locale and timezone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25476 +comment (10bugzilla+org.wikimedia) [17:26:50] Rosa_desierto_: follow the points from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation#Main_installation_guide [17:36:45] 03(mod) Make it possible to specify what to do on edit conflict on action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62698 +comment (10Umherirrender) [17:50:26] hello,qgil [17:50:51] hi aalekhN [17:51:39] i have submitted a link of my proposal at melange,hope it is visble to you guys [17:56:53] qgil: hey, I mailed the mentor who was mentioned in the GSoC project list. Its been 2 days and I haven't heard from him. What should I do? [17:57:01] 03(NEW) Amara integration for video subtitles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62699 normal; MediaWiki extensions: TimedMediaHandler; () [17:57:17] aalekhN, yes, it is visible [17:57:32] 03(mod) Amara integration for video subtitles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62699 (10Jean-Fred) [17:57:39] 03(mod) Amara integration for video subtitles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62699 (10Jean-Fred) [17:57:40] 03(mod) Bug and feature requests related to Wikimedia Commons (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/37883 (10Jean-Fred) [17:57:55] 03(mod) Amara integration for video subtitles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62699 normal->15enhancement (10Jean-Fred) [17:58:49] thnks :) ,is there any thing else i should be doing,regarding proposal submission at melange? [17:58:59] Shivam1392, you mean "Book management in Wikibooks/Wikisource"? [17:59:12] qgil: yes [17:59:42] Raylton added that project even if a technical mentor is still missing there. This, plus the fact that he hasn't answered you means to me that you should jump to another project. [17:59:56] Shivam1392, I'm sorry about this situation, but you still have time to pick another project [18:00:14] Shivam1392, I will remove that project from the "featured"list to avoid more confusion [18:00:23] Shivam1392, or... one thing [18:00:32] Shivam1392, have you asked in the related bug report? [18:00:53] qgil: yes, but not specifacally for a mentor [18:02:00] Shivam1392, in which Bugzilla report did you ask? I can't find you in the reports linked in the project idea [18:02:48] qgil, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53286 [18:03:11] aalekhN, see your entry at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014#Candidates -- it should have all checked in the "Updates" column [18:05:48] Shivam1392, if would be you, I would ask for a mentor at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50386 , and if you don't get a clear commitment in 24h then move to another project listed under https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014#Featured_project_ideas [18:06:29] Shivam1392, or jump already now, considering the two days of silence of the only visible mentor until now (Raylton is a product/community mentor, not a technical mentor) [18:06:44] qgil: hi, I have submitted link to my proposal to melange. Hope mine is visible too. [18:07:24] ok,thnku [18:07:29] yes, thank you. If it is visible to you, it is visible to us [18:18:28] bd808: hi [18:28:59] what do we mean by Microtasks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014#Candidates in Updates column. [18:39:01] qgil, if it is confirmed that I have two mentors, can I add {{done}} myself, or will you be confirming that? [18:39:23] BPositive, you can add it, I will double-check in Melange [18:40:05] qgil, but GSoC has one mentor per project rule right? [18:40:29] rohit-dua, your mentors must give you one or more small tasks (say, fix bug 12345) as part of your project evaluation [18:40:33] BPositive, not at all [18:40:52] qgil, oh okay. I thought it was that way. Fine. [18:41:10] BPositive, and we have a rule of 2 mentors per project, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Lessons_learned [18:41:20] rohit-dua, ref microtasks, see also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Lessons_learned [18:41:36] Yes, I saw that. I thought it was internal to our organization [18:42:16] Google says at least one mentor, we say at least two, both parameters are compatible :) [18:44:09] qgil, I see. That's great :) [18:46:47] 03(mod) Collection: credits of images should list only the uploaders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62121 +comment (10qgil) [18:51:06] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" - cancel-arrow needs a tooltip; possibly replace with an "X"? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49147 (10Quiddity) [19:03:42] 03(mod) Review and Deploy 'Popups' extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61167 +comment (10tomasz) [19:07:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: "Review your changes" - cancel-arrow needs a tooltip; possibly replace with an "X"? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49147 +comment (10pandiculation) [19:16:24] 03(mod) Special:DispatchStats shows timestamps always in UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62428 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:16:25] 03(mod) Special:DispatchStats shows timestamps always in UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62428 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:21:59] 03(NEW) Edit on the section heading can't be reflected in the preview in mobile section edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62700 normal; MobileFrontend: stable; () [19:22:53] 03(mod) Edit on the section heading can't be reflected in the preview in mobile section edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62700 (10Liangent) [19:22:53] 03(mod) The newly added section title is missing in preview when a new section is added in mobile edit of the lead (first) section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62652 (10Liangent) [19:25:16] 03(mod) Edit on the section heading can't be reflected in the preview in mobile section edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62700 +comment (10bingle-admin) [19:25:26] 03(mod) Special:DispatchStats shows timestamps always in UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62428 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:26:15] 03(mod) Special:DispatchStats shows timestamps always in UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62428 (10Tony Thomas) [19:37:46] ori: Do we really have no manual page at all on tricks to write performant code? [19:37:50] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Performance_tuning [19:38:49] It's a bit difficult [19:39:00] Probably a lot of "Don't do ..." [19:41:12] Tip 1) Don't write any code at all - this way your not using any system resources to run MediaWiki. [19:42:49] 03(mod) thumb.php should output docs if no file specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54749 +comment (10gerritadmin) [19:42:50] 03(mod) thumb.php should output docs if no file specified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54749 (10Gerrit Notification Bot) [19:47:13] 03(mod) Amara integration for video subtitles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62699 (10Andre Klapper) [20:04:23] 03(mod) VisualEditor: Using up-arrow to scroll lets you put the cursor under the toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48787 +comment (10Axel Boldt) [20:07:34] Reedy: "Don't write code" [20:10:36] Nemo_bis: here's my copout: "The key to performance is elegance, not battalions of special cases. The terrible temptation to tweak should be resisted unless the payoff is really noticeable." -- Jon Bentley and Doug McIlroy [20:15:52] Nemo_bis: but seriously, as you know, producing documentation is especially hard for me for reasons that deserve to be explored on the psychiatrist's couch [20:16:07] i can only acknowledge and promise to keep trying to improve :P [20:16:33] 03(mod) sortable wikitable: border not shown between values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62263 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:16:37] 03(mod) tablesorter (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31601 (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [20:17:16] Nemo_bis: but, if you're feeling inspired: (and not just the section on performance) is generally excellent [20:17:39] mostly applicable to mediawiki development, and made available under the MIT License [20:18:12] and thus (afaik) may be freely adopted into mediawiki [20:45:43] 03(mod) Superscripts and subscripts change line height - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/49965 (10Quiddity) [20:45:43] 03(mod) Superscript reference numbers cause increase in line height with devanagari text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/41442 (10Quiddity) [21:10:03] 03(mod) Add wantedpages support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54557 +comment (10ricordisamoa) [21:10:12] 03(mod) Add wantedpages support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54557 (10Ricordisamoa) [21:10:20] 03(mod) Add wantedpages support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/54557 (10Ricordisamoa) [21:11:54] nobody ever answered my question earlier :( [21:12:20] are there any good mediawiki clients I can use to edit my hosted wikis on mobile devices? [21:12:29] searching 'wiki client' in app stores just gives you wikipedia clients [21:20:30] eridu: not really, no [21:27:40] Hi, I'm having trouble setting up short URLs. I am trying to create a wiki family, and on the first wiki it works fine. But on the second, existing pages are redirected to Index.php/Page_name [21:31:47] Ah, nevermind. Figured it out. [21:42:42] 03(NEW) Add hook to make it possible to check other open proxy lists besides $wgProxyList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62701 enhancement; MediaWiki: User blocking; () [21:49:07] 03(mod) Add hook to make it possible to check other open proxy lists besides $wgProxyList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62701 (10Nathan Larson) [22:05:03] are there any plugins to automatically scrub metadata from uploaded images? [22:06:49] ah, i see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20326 [22:19:01] 03(mod) No english translation has been defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55166 +comment (10Ricordisamoa) [22:28:40] !class DatabaseBase | Lcawte [22:28:41] Lcawte: See https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/html/classDatabaseBase.html [22:43:37] * Lcawte stabs MW/PHP with something sharp. [22:48:43] 03(mod) Migrate Bugzilla Labs instances to new datacenter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62658 +comment (10Tim Landscheidt) [22:53:05] 03(mod) Special:DispatchStats shows timestamps always in UTC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62428 +comment (10lydia.pintscher) [23:00:53] 03(mod) Draft a computer-assisted translation system for Wikidata labels/descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62695 +i18n (10Nemo) [23:12:16] 03(mod) CommonsDelinker deleted image without replacing or providing new location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/62596 (10Marius Hoch) [23:24:59] 03(mod) High priority jobs like enotifs are executed very slowly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/43936 +comment (10aklapper) [23:27:32] 03(mod) Message key '(Filepage|Common|Handheld|Print|Monobook).css' does not appear to be a full key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/46612 +comment (10aklapper) [23:29:32] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate can incorrectly report/log success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47301 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:35:15] 03(mod) mailman emails taking long time for delivery, getting stuck in sodium - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/59731 +comment (10Andre Klapper) [23:35:39] 03(mod) IE6 and IE7 and IE8: page errors in editor, sometimes controls don't load, preventing editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58464 +comment (10aklapper)