only the small box of the toolbox text expands/collapses [02:08:37] jorm, thats great news [02:09:04] what you're looking at - on unicorn - is a javascript/html prototype that we are using for rapid iteration and testing. [02:09:23] new idea? take a day and code it, then run tests, then evaluate. change design. ask questions. [02:09:34] super fast, even though the project's been going since december. [02:09:45] anyways, most of the "little bugs" are based on the prototype, not in reality. [02:10:00] *nod* [02:10:32] nice. my general thing with websites, is I have a big vertical monitor I read on, and I like to zoom in almost all the way to read [02:10:55] and things like the wikipedia sidebar end up taking like 50% of my entire monitor real estate [02:12:25] Maybe you could hack something up that hides the sidebar but for some 10-20 pixels unless you hover on it [02:12:49] Might be annoying to interact with, but it's something you could do just for you and it seems like you're not really interested in the sidebar anyway :) [02:13:25] its actually about 25% for wikipedia. I notice some newer blogs hide their sidebar type things when i zoom in. [02:13:26] Oh ya, like how reddit has their expandable sidebar. [02:13:30] that would be awesome [02:14:34] ya, i think expandable sidebar would be the best possible solution [02:15:10] collapsible would be more the word to use, since it would start open [02:15:59] and keep its last state if I am logged in. [02:30:23] is there a wiki page about the unicorn stuff? any timeline on when releases? [03:00:07] qgil: ping [03:40:18] Got a quick question (hopefully): I'm getting a 502 bad gateway error accessing Special:SpecialPages. It only happens when I access Special:SpecialPages, no other page so far. Any ideas? [03:43:53] I'm also able to access other Special pages if I enter them directly in the URL [03:46:43] meltybits: Not sure why you think that's a quick question, sounds strange. :-) [03:46:50] Is your wiki public? [03:47:09] I was hoping it might be a known issue [03:47:14] 502 bad gateway error is a pretty bizarre error to throw... [03:47:15] Alas no [03:47:25] !debug [03:47:25] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging [03:48:35] I find it more bizarre it only throws it on the Special page to list Special pages. [03:50:08] My guess offhand is MediaWiki extension. [03:50:20] You could try disabling extensions and see if the error persists. [03:50:31] hm [03:50:41] I'll try that. [03:50:41] Otherwise, the links above will help you debug. [03:50:49] You can create a debug file, etc. [06:56:14] Hi! I want to know how books are currently stored in wikibooks/wikisource? [06:59:11] im not sure what you mean [06:59:18] what kind of books [07:04:13] i am talking of books on wikibooks i.e. collection of pages...for e.g. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Muggles%27_Guide_to_Harry_Potter/Contents [07:05:18] ok there are three kinds of books you seem to be talking about [07:05:34] wikibooks is written by collaborative volunteers using a subpage hierarchy system [07:07:47] e.g. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/PHP_Programming <- "book" on PHP programming different from "book" on Javascript -> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JavaScript [07:08:50] chapters separated by slashes, so https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JavaScript/Introduction and https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/JavaScript/First_Program are both "chapters" of the JavaScript "book" [07:09:15] See [[mw:Book management]] [07:09:23] Uuh. "Because there are a lot of smart people outside of Silicon Valley" http://www.sugarforge.org/content/open-source/ [07:09:24] wikisource uploads digitized copies of public domain works [07:11:14] the books are first uploaded onto Commons as files like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Expectations.djvu and then transcribed and reproduced to wikisource [07:11:45] to complicate things, there is a third type of book called [[Special:Book]] [07:12:24] you can use that special page to have MediaWiki send you a collection of wiki pages that you choose to be included in a downloadable PDF [07:13:07] those are located in the "Book" namespace [07:15:20] ok [07:15:26] LOL http://forums.sugarcrm.com/f22/https-github-com-sugarcrm-sugarcrm_dev-same-vcs-you-use-your-devel-85369/ [07:16:46] huh [08:19:25] Asked https://community.sugarcrm.com/sugarcrm/topics/where_is_sugarcrms_source_code_version_control_system_vcs [09:25:11] Hi everyone, I'm stuck with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64727, it seems clear it is related to the 1.24wmf2 deploy because of the times the problem appeared for es.wikinews and es.wikipedia [09:25:39] Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated [09:26:03] (Sorry for cross-channel-posting) [11:04:34] Still no one there to help? [11:05:22] wassup jem?? [11:06:41] Guest79910: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64727 (and thanks) [11:11:03] Guest79910 ? [11:11:12] I didnt get that.. [11:11:15] Sorry.. [11:11:19] I am busy a bit... [11:11:36] Just now I started on that work... [11:11:36] Oh, ok then [11:11:44] Sorry........ [11:11:44] Thanks :) [11:11:57] No problem [11:45:37] valhallasw hello [11:52:56] How to use pernament bot=1 for rollback? [11:58:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback#Parameters [14:07:26] why do I see "there is no such section" on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids|user|timestamp|comment&rvlimit=1&rvstartid=606771145&rvdiffto=prev&titles=User%3A%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF%20%D8%B4%D8%B9%DB%8C%D8%A8%2Fcommon.js [14:07:33] Reedy: ^ [14:07:41] I am not asking for any section so why does it say that [14:21:25] How to log in with AID? [14:22:20] what is AID? [15:11:29] hi, im trying to change the color of the text of some elements. i succeded with personal navigation links with #p-personal ul li a { color: white; } , but i can't simply do the same with elements like the sidebar or the footer links, even selecting directly the id of the item, as for example #footer-places-privacy a { color: white; } anybody knows how to do this??? [15:11:50] i'm doing the changes in the mediawiki:vector.css page [15:24:28] You people think running tests for MediaWiki is nice? Hah! I fart in your general direction! https://github.com/wmde/WikibaseDataModel/pull/80 [15:34:05] hexmode: ping? [15:43:49] hello. having a hard time getting the texvc binary to be visible to mw [15:44:22] the binary in my case is outside the document root [15:44:30] debian [15:45:20] should i symlink it to inside the document root so i can use a relative path to it? [15:45:43] nginx and debian, mw installed from repo [15:47:20] all the guides i read talk about the source code being in extensions/Math/math and youre supposed to go in there and build it [15:47:55] but the debian package doesnt have that, it sticks the precompiled binary in /usr/bin [15:48:37] it seems for whatever reason, even though the user www-data has permissions to see and execute it, mediawiki still cant see it [15:49:21] i suppose it could be some security "feature" of nginx but i dont know where to begin looking for that [15:50:31] hi [15:50:48] where to find a jobs queue for WMF project? [16:00:40] Juandev, you want to see what's in the job queue on a WMF project..? [16:00:50] yes [16:05:52] Krenair: theres an url for that or special page no? [16:06:05] Juandev, not that I'm aware of [16:06:23] so its just for personal MW installations? [16:06:24] HALP [16:06:25] AaronSchulz knows more than me about the job queue [16:06:26] :) [16:06:52] Juandev: I'm only aware of numbers, like https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/graph.php?r=year&z=xlarge&c=Miscellaneous+pmtpa&h=hume.wikimedia.org&v=823574&m=Global_JobQueue_length&jr=&js= [16:07:46] well, I think at my pervious wiki installation I saw number of simmillar job queues awaiting [16:08:01] but I dont remmeber, how to get such list [16:20:25] hi, im trying to change the color of the text of some elements. i succeded with personal navigation links with #p-personal ul li a { color: white; } , but i can't simply do the same with elements like the sidebar or the footer links, even selecting directly the id of the item, as for example #footer-places-privacy a { color: white; } anybody knows how to do this??? i'm doing the changes in the mediawiki:vector.css page [16:30:36] HALP [16:36:32] shawnbon206: Patience :) [16:36:56] shawnbon206: You should be able to specify a target for a binary no matter where it is on the system... [16:37:38] shawnbon206: what is HALP? [16:37:58] Juandev: It means "Help, pay attention to me, I'm unhappy" [16:38:15] its http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=halp [16:38:48] Desatonao: I guess you have to select MW namespace id or class [16:40:06] shawnbon206: so whats wrong with you? [16:41:05] Juandev i only slept an hour last night setting up my raspberry pi? [16:41:16] and i am late for school [16:41:33] :D [16:41:37] well, thats bad. I had one hour nap, I just woke up [16:41:39] !time [16:41:39] For help with configuring timezones in MediaWiki, please consult . [16:41:52] stupid bot! [16:42:31] i am trying to get the math extension to work [16:42:41] Juandev to bot: how to use this, Bot to Juandev: read 455 page long specification [16:42:46] it should work from what i can tell [16:42:56] shawnbon206: dont tell me about math! [16:43:46] Juandev what do you exactly mean?? [16:44:41] Desatonao: well if you are restyling mw, I would try to restyle it calling specific group page in this case mw ns [16:45:41] but i want to chagen the style of all namespaces, so i'm doing changes in mediawiki:vector.css [16:46:55] the problem is selecting some elements, it doesnt have any effect [16:47:48] Desatonao: and are you switched to Vector skin? [16:48:06] no, only the mediawiki page i told you [16:48:08] there might be a couple of reasons, why it doesnt work [16:49:09] and a sure way to do it work? [16:49:13] it's a brand new install [16:49:24] Desatonao: now I am talking about the skin. How you know it doesnt work? You should have the page open life to be able to say that [16:50:06] i have, i change the mediawiki:vector.css, then refresh, and i can see the changes [16:50:32] but only on some elements, like the personal navigation ones [16:51:51] umm lets guess he has Vector skin there as it is brand new installation [16:54:11] y, i'm on it [16:54:55] on vector skin, i mean, and some changes happen, others not [16:55:04] shawnbon206: Do you have any *errors* that you're seeing? I don't know why setting a relative path to outside the docroot would be problematic. [16:55:30] maybe sidebar and footer are generated after the css applies?¿ [16:55:34] is that possible?¿ [16:59:51] Desatonao: I dont think so [17:00:14] anyway, would like to help you, but time to end up the work [17:00:51] I was already changing that [17:01:29] ok, thx for all :D [17:06:23] http://hastebin.com/redukecoza.php http://hastebin.com/ipiqeyuxak.tex marktraceur [17:08:11] shawnbon206: And /usr/bin/texvc exists? [17:09:03] shawnbon206: Can you try moving the wgTexvc line to after the require_once line for Math? [17:10:05] marktraceur: yes, and: ok one sec [17:13:05] marktraceur: new error! that at least improved things [17:13:56] http://hastebin.com/uwosimajuv.tex [17:15:23] shawnbon206: Do you have those things installed? [17:16:22] dvipng needed to be installed [17:20:23] shawnbon206: So install it :) [17:25:21] still :/ [17:25:37] shawnbon206: New error? [17:26:19] same error [17:27:03] i wonder if its because i dont have a $wgmathDirectory $wgMathPath [17:27:17] the wiki said they would default to "default" [17:27:24] but i dont know what those default paths are [17:27:30] if i did i could check permissions [17:28:28] shawnbon206: You can set $wgDvipngCommand manually [17:29:18] oh the path to that binary? [17:29:21] Yeah [17:32:56] still same [17:35:34] texvc /home/wiki/tmp /home/wiki/math "y=x+2" [17:35:39] i try this and i get: [17:35:53] root@pi:/var/www/maintenance# texvc /home/wiki/tmp /home/wiki/math "y=x+2" [17:35:56] Cdaa63ef966cc412541190bc8794731dey = x + 2y=x+2- [17:36:06] no png file in any of those paths [17:36:18] i guess it wont create its own directories [17:36:22] this must be the problem [17:36:24] no directory [17:37:22] $wgMathDirectory = "$wgUploadDirectory/math"; [17:37:24] $wgTmpDirectory = "$wgUploadDirectory/tmp"; [17:37:26] must be these two [17:38:06] i guess i should finish this some other time after i have gotten enough sleep [17:38:26] i am way way too easily confused right now [17:38:47] little decisions like where to make an arbritrary folder i cant make in a normal amount of time [17:39:23] images/math images/tmp [17:39:26] yay i did it [17:39:31] go brain go [17:49:12] no change [17:58:33] ok i am going to remove this [17:58:46] i will try again next week lol [18:22:34] ;_; [19:37:48] Greetings all on this most magnificent of Fridays! [19:38:08] Who can tell me the easiest way to figure out why a gargantuan template is causing a timeout [20:08:43] Hello [20:08:53] How I can create a wiki? [20:09:53] !install | Laberinto [20:09:53] Laberinto: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [20:10:20] Ohh, I have to install [20:10:38] I thought I only have to clic in a button :P [20:10:42] Usually yes [20:10:48] Laberinto: You may be able to find a wiki host. [20:10:50] !hosts [20:10:50] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !wikia, [20:10:53] !wiki [20:10:53] A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis. [20:10:55] !wikia [20:10:55] http://wikia.com is a site that hosts free content community wikis. [20:11:08] I don't like Wikia [20:11:33] I want a wiki with free domain.. But I think I have to pay and programming [20:11:42] Yeah, so [20:11:53] Lots of hosts will also let you do one-click installs of MediaWiki [20:12:04] Without necessarily endorsing it, Dreamhost is one example. [20:13:08] Let me check [20:13:44] marktraceur: But I can create free wikis with Dreamhost? [20:14:31] Laberinto: You have to pay for domain name registration and hosting, but the wiki itself is free [20:50:05] question [20:50:24] when i have a red link if i click it it goes into edit automatically [20:50:44] how can i set it to show the empty page page? [21:02:13] http://hastebin.com/oqonimuguq.php [21:39:59] hello [21:53:31] Hi shawnbon206. [21:55:47] hi hi [21:57:22] sup sup [21:57:42] i am going to try again with the math [21:58:41] i checked, all the required directories are there [22:05:43] shawnbon206: Are they all writable by the webserver? [22:08:05] yes [22:08:41] Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex and dvipng (or dvips + gs + convert)): \operatorname{erfc}(x) = \frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} \int_x^{\infty} e^{-t^2}\,dt = \frac{e^{-x^2}}{x\sqrt{\pi}}\sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n \frac{(2n)!}{n!(2x)^{2n}} [22:11:03] marktraceur: here is something interesting: [22:11:25] http://hastebin.com/jaquwemaji.coffee [22:11:28] shawnbon206: And latex and dvipng are both installed? [22:11:35] pdftext? [22:12:06] Aha [22:12:09] Seems fine [22:15:19] can never tell if debian is linux or not [22:15:32] It's GNU/Linux, yeah [22:15:50] yeah and mac osx is bsd [22:15:59] Well, BSD and xNU [22:16:07] xnu? [22:16:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU [22:16:38] lol [22:16:43] its a pun [22:16:49] thats the best pun ever [22:16:59] A pun? [22:17:08] its a pun on gnu is not unix [22:17:46] I guess so [22:18:42] !access [22:18:42] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [22:22:58] hmm [22:30:22] marktraceur: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sbmxqmt1o60h7f7/daa63ef966cc412541190bc8794731de.png [22:30:28] i made this from the command line [22:30:44] 'kay [22:30:54] HALP [22:31:09] Chill [22:32:33] shawnbon206: What command did you use? [22:33:08] texvc /var/www/images/tmp/ /var/www/images/math "y=x+2" [22:34:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMathDirectory see default here [22:34:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMathPath and here [22:36:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgScriptPath i think i need to change this [22:37:09] to / [22:37:55] or /www [22:38:12] wish me luck [22:39:05] shawnbon206: Good luck [22:39:20] But you don't [22:39:36] the default is /wiki [22:39:45] my document root is /var/www [22:40:12] i rm -rf /www originally and symlinked the mediawiki folder to www [22:40:28] no /wiki in the path [22:40:35] so that might be why [22:40:56] the documentation says $wgscriptpath is in relation to document_root [22:41:25] so that would make sense because people do /var/www/wiki [22:41:59] That...hm [22:42:11] It would be / I think [22:42:48] question: [22:42:51] $wgTexvc = '/usr/bin/texvc'; [22:43:04] quotes or apostraphie? [22:43:14] apostrophe [22:43:19] But you could use either [22:43:20] quotes only if it contains a variable? [22:43:31] Something like that [22:44:45] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function () in /etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 136 [22:45:06] $wgScriptPath( '/' ); [22:45:11] Uh. [22:45:16] $wgScriptPath = '/'; [22:45:29] oh! [22:45:31] thanks [22:45:34] i'm dumb [22:45:42] It's OK [22:46:45] PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ''/'' (T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING) in /etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php on line 136 [22:50:46] ...what [22:51:02] fixed it [22:51:03] lol [22:51:05] dont ask [22:51:06] Oh, 'kay [22:52:20] that borked it [22:52:33] Go figure [22:52:39] setting / was like dividing by 0 [22:54:46] http://www.lifechat.com/files/images/devided-by-zero-demotivational-poster.preview.jpg [22:55:27] i set it at a "" value and it still has same error [22:55:37] You should just not set it [22:55:46] well it decaults to /wiki [22:56:07] i am going to try moving my entire directory tree up [22:56:11] What error did you get? [22:56:26] Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex and dvipng (or dvips + gs + convert)): \operatorname{erfc}(x) = \frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} \int_x^{\infty} e^{-t^2}\,dt = \frac{e^{-x^2}}{x\sqrt{\pi}}\sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n \frac{(2n)!}{n!(2x)^{2n}} [22:56:31] Oh, still? [22:56:33] Hm [22:56:38] i am just making stabs in the dark now because ive tried everything [22:57:07] shawnbon206: Have you tried filing a bug against the math extension? [22:57:23] ive gone over every peice of documentation and carefully tried one thing at a time, test, another thing, test, the last two together, test, [22:58:12] its probally my fault for using the stuff from the debian repo instead of syncing everything from git [22:58:24] i thoght it would save me some time [22:59:04] nope [22:59:25] other than that its working pretty good with sqlite3 and nginx on raspberry pi [23:00:07] Wait wait [23:00:13] You're using the *debian* mediawiki package? [23:00:16] !debian [23:00:17] yes [23:00:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu [23:00:27] ive already followed all thsat [23:00:39] Never ever do that [23:00:42] Use the latest from git [23:01:08] yeah i know that now [23:01:13] ;_; [23:02:00] at this point i can just start over and clean up some of the mess i made by trying to troubleshoot everything [23:02:13] my raspbian install is getting bloated [23:11:03] ok dd'ing the sdcard to my ~ on my laptop then i am going to do a headless net install, then install ifplugd and wpa-supplicant and copy the configs back over... gonna be more careful this time lol [23:11:56] FML [23:13:10] its nice to have a little test bunny [23:35:06] marktraceur> Use the latest from git [23:35:07] NO [23:35:08] NO [23:35:19] ... [23:35:49] I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish but the latest usually works pretty well [23:35:57] Why would you recommend someone run prerelease software [23:36:50] *shrug* better than running the debian package by miles [23:41:16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHpluwP328A [23:41:44] johnduhart: i will just run latest stable [23:41:56] shawnbon206: Good tunes [23:42:07] shawnbon206: good choice [23:43:52] thats the best song