[01:10:04] <SleePy>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search
[01:10:36] <SleePy>	 I am reading this and not understanding on prop how I would return multiple properties 
[01:16:39] <legoktm>	 SleePy: &prop=size|wordcount
[01:17:19] <SleePy>	 Thank you
[01:17:24] <legoktm>	 the pipe join thing is covered in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Data_formats#Multivalue_parameters
[01:17:27] <legoktm>	 np :)
[01:18:38] <Quasar`>	 one thing to watch out for that isn't obvious in those docs is that API limits stack up. Like if you query 100 pages at a time and pull images for them, it'll return the 100 pages you asked for but only the first 500 images.
[01:19:52] <Quasar`>	 I ended up needing to create a bot account on my wiki to reliabily get around that without writing significantly more complicated code :>
[01:23:48] <SleePy>	 I'm building a bridge between a old documentation site and a new one and have to bridge the search.  So it would only get one query per page load
[01:25:23] <SamB>	 Quasar`: you'd think there'd be a way to tell it "okay just return results for every page except the one that'd take you over 500" ...
[01:25:37] <SamB>	 s/except/up to
[01:25:43] <Quasar`>	 would be handy
[01:26:45] <SamB>	 (except if the very first one had >500 images, you'd probably just want the first 500 from that ...)
[01:28:44] <Quasar`>	 in my case I need all pages, and all images; I just don't want to deal with repeating page results in the event there's a query-continue with an aifrom in it. With a bot I can query 100 pages at a time and set ailimit to 5000 and there's no way for it to ever hit the image limit since we only have ~4800 images on our entire wiki and they're not distributed 50 per page :>
[01:29:46] <Quasar`>	 of course I wrote that against the 1.16 API and now we've upgraded to 1.22 so I need to rewrite it
[01:29:50] <Quasar`>	 :>
[01:43:21] <IanKelling>	 define( 'MW_MATH_MATHJAX', 6 ); /// @deprecated
[01:43:28] <IanKelling>	 i'm wondering why that is deprecated
[01:44:28] <ori>	 IanKelling: if you have a git clone of the repository, you can do a 'git blame [filename]', which will print next to each line the commit which introduced / modified it
[01:44:40] <IanKelling>	 oh, good call
[01:44:49] <ori>	 if you then do git log [commit] you'll see the commit message
[02:01:22] <Amgine>	 <wants a tool to add "send [plague of locust] to committer">
[02:15:43] <Withoutaname>	 how do I check if a piece of wikitext will parse into an outbound link
[02:15:52] <Withoutaname>	 e.g. it's not enclosed in nowikis or <!--
[02:18:23] <Withoutaname>	 is there any function in core for that?
[03:22:17] <shawnbon206>	 help me decide what to name this wiki
[03:22:55] <shawnbon206>	 It's for my schools manufacturing program
[03:23:05] <shawnbon206>	 I was thinking "SCC Manufacturing"
[03:23:18] <shawnbon206>	 should i put "wiki" on the end?
[03:26:02] <shawnbon206>	 so the Project:About link would read About SCC Manufacturing Wiki and the link would be SCCMFGT
[03:26:13] <shawnbon206>	 er
[03:26:23] <shawnbon206>	 SCCMFGT:About
[03:38:46] <Withoutaname>	 idk but I think "project:about" is fine, even if short and generic
[03:58:44] <IanKelling>	 at mediawiki.org, i go to my contributions, and there are highlighted colors on different lines. There is no indication of what these colors mean. am I blind, or does this seems like a bug?
[04:01:41] <Krenair>	 IanKelling, FlaggedRevisions status/quality, IIRC?
[04:01:48] <Krenair>	 IanKelling, what is your username?
[04:01:53] <IanKelling>	 ian kelling
[04:02:04] <ori>	 yes, the colors are annotations added by a MediaWiki extension called 'FlaggedRevisions'
[04:02:05] <ori>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[04:02:15] <IanKelling>	 ahh. thank you
[04:02:21] <ori>	 it is probably a bug
[04:02:25] <IanKelling>	 yup
[04:02:31] <IanKelling>	 but now I know what to report against
[04:02:32] <ori>	 in that it is entirely understandable to find that confusing / cryptic
[04:02:53] <SamB>	 ori: so the bug being that there's no legend
[04:03:01] <IanKelling>	 ya
[04:28:01] <shawnbon206>	 root@pi:/usr/share/nginx/www/extensions/Math/math# make
[04:28:02] <shawnbon206>	 ocamlopt -c util.ml
[04:28:04] <shawnbon206>	 make: ocamlopt: Command not found
[04:28:06] <shawnbon206>	 debian
[04:28:18] <shawnbon206>	 i installed the ocaml package
[04:28:59] <SamB>	 why are you invoking make as root
[04:30:23] <SamB>	 anyway, um, that command is in ... the ocaml-native-compilers package
[04:31:40] <shawnbon206>	 oh, um.. havent gotten around to making a user yet, just installed this morning... this is virtually the first thing ive encountered that didnt require root
[04:32:06] <SamB>	 well, maybe you'd more-or-less have to run as root to do it there anyway
[04:32:57] <IanKelling>	 i just ran that command today shawn, on debian stable, not as root, on master branch of the extension, worked fine
[04:32:59] <shawnbon206>	 SamB: do you know if i'll require the ocaml package or if ocaml-nox is sufficient 
[04:33:11] <IanKelling>	 dunno. i installed ocaml
[04:33:15] <SamB>	 no idea
[04:33:49] <IanKelling>	 and i installed ocaml-nox along with it as a dependency
[04:34:11] <shawnbon206>	 yeah nox stands for "no x"
[04:34:27] <SamB>	 IanKelling: did that run ocamlopt for you?
[04:34:35] <shawnbon206>	 on a headless server its a little disheartening to see half of x's deps getting installed with it
[04:34:53] <IanKelling>	 samb: i dunno
[04:35:18] * SamB  actually runs X apps on what could be described as an *ancient* headless server

[04:35:18] <shawnbon206>	 i am going to uninstall and do autoremove --purge, i'll install the "nox" one and i'll let you know
[04:35:31] <shawnbon206>	 x apps and you tunnel them over ssh?
[04:35:37] <SamB>	 yeah
[04:35:50] <shawnbon206>	 amazing :)
[04:36:03] <SamB>	 mostly emacs, a little gitk, the very occasional kcachegrind ...
[04:36:38] <shawnbon206>	 that makes sense for emacs
[04:39:27] <shawnbon206>	 oh shoot. looks like i need to compile ocaml-native-compilers
[04:40:04] <shawnbon206>	 not available on this archetecture
[04:40:15] <shawnbon206>	 armhf for rpi
[04:40:16] <IanKelling>	 curious, what arch?
[04:40:20] <IanKelling>	 ah
[04:40:46] <shawnbon206>	 or i wonder if i should cross compile
[04:45:28] <shawnbon206>	 those compilers arent available for armhf at all...
[04:51:12] <SamB>	 shawnbon206: oh, well it's available in testing ...
[04:51:39] * SamB  <3 rmadison

[04:53:48] <shawnbon206>	 SamB: yeah i was looking at the wrong release
[05:00:09] <shawnbon206>	 looks like its available in jessie
[05:00:14] <shawnbon206>	 i'll back to backport it
[05:08:15] <shawnbon206>	 well i guess theres no disadvantage from just installing texvc from the package manager
[05:08:30] <shawnbon206>	 packporting it will take like 300mb of space
[05:12:38] <shawnbon206>	 debian has a package called mediawiki-math-texvc
[05:13:33] <shawnbon206>	 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/mediawiki-math-texvc
[05:13:56] <shawnbon206>	 i dunno who did the recommends on some of these packages
[05:14:14] <shawnbon206>	 lol
[05:14:41] <shawnbon206>	 why is mediawiki-extensions-math a recommend
[05:15:39] <shawnbon206>	 which installs mediawiki as a dep
[05:16:02] <shawnbon206>	 which ironically i already have and thats why i wanted the texvc binary haha
[05:17:33] <karma>	 can someone help me? I'm trying to install mediawiki on my wiki (soon to be wikifarm) and I'd like to know how in the heck and where I have to put LocalSettings.php.
[05:18:21] <shawnbon206>	 in the web servers document root
[05:18:40] <shawnbon206>	 where index.php is
[05:18:59] <karma>	 yes, but how do I edit that? to put it there?
[05:19:24] <shawnbon206>	 how do you edit it or how do you put it there?
[05:19:51] <shawnbon206>	 i like to edit mine with "vi" and i put it there with "scp"
[05:19:52] <shawnbon206>	 :D
[05:20:05] <karma>	 How do I put in there? it's the last thing I need to do. lol
[05:20:31] <shawnbon206>	 is it on a remote server ?
[05:20:45] <shawnbon206>	 you have shell access to?
[05:21:05] <karma>	 yeah, I have shell access.
[05:21:59] <shawnbon206>	 scp LocalSettings.php karma@yourwebserver.com:/var/www
[05:22:02] <shawnbon206>	 like that
[05:26:05] <karma>	 I give up. :/
[05:28:20] <karma>	 I'm going to bed, I'll try in the morning
[05:53:49] <shawnbon206>	 wow
[06:44:00] <rundll32>	 what is the framework for doing database programming in python?
[06:45:25] <rundll32>	 also good win32 gui ?
[06:45:38] <Mithrandir>	 it's called DB-API, iirc.  No idea about GUI
[06:55:04] <shawnbon206>	 i still cant get the math extension to work
[06:55:16] <shawnbon206>	 ive already done an OS reinstall because of this lol
[07:11:20] <shawnbon206>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Troubleshooting_math_display_errors#Nginx
[07:11:33] <shawnbon206>	 since i tried everything else, this must be what i am dealing with
[07:11:41] <shawnbon206>	 yet, it does not work
[07:12:28] <shawnbon206>	 is there somewhere i can check a log for a more descriptive error?
[07:13:08] <MartijnH>	 In my experience, Windows sucks pretty badly for any sort of development that isn't .NET development. For a test/develop environment, it might be easier to just use a vagrant virtualbox which has everything mediawiki set up and ready to go
[07:18:59] <shawnbon206>	 there must be some kind of bug here
[07:19:17] <shawnbon206>	 how could it possibly be so diffucult to enable a single extension
[07:19:56] <shawnbon206>	 judging by the fact the wiki suggested i run the command as root even though there is no theoretical reason to?
[07:20:06] <shawnbon206>	 which didnt even work
[07:20:26] <shawnbon206>	 well the edit suggested in there rendered the script useless
[07:23:22] <IanKelling>	 what extension?
[07:23:32] <IanKelling>	 oh
[07:23:33] <IanKelling>	 nm i see
[07:23:53] <IanKelling>	 does it show in special:version?
[07:24:58] <IanKelling>	 i'm quite annoyed that i can't find any instructions on automated installation of mediawiki
[07:30:36] <IanKelling>	 for development purposes. i guess there's vagrant, but that just seems so unnecesary
[07:31:23] <IanKelling>	 i've got a localsettings file, which answers all the questions in the manual config i'm assuming, but I still need to setup the database more apparently
[07:42:25] <IanKelling>	 nm, the doc was just a little hard to find: php maintenance/install.php
[08:04:50] <shawnbon206>	 i am going to retry with apache tomorrow
[08:14:56] <shawnbon206>	 after apache and nginx what is the next best choice?
[08:17:56] <shawnbon206>	 monkey?
[08:18:22] <shawnbon206>	 lighty?
[08:18:46] <ori>	 it depends on your requirements, but lighttpd is a good choice, yeah
[08:21:00] <ori>	 IanKelling: you can edit the docs, you know, and jot that down exactly where you had earlier hoped you would find it :)
[08:21:27] <shawnbon206>	 my requirement is low memory, and getting the math extension to work
[08:23:10] <shawnbon206>	 i dont see how the httpd could affect it but the wiki stated someone had to run some things as root, which implies a permissions problem to me but I chgrp the entire wiki recursively and still same
[08:23:31] <shawnbon206>	 i literally tried everything
[08:30:51] <joelmo>	 have someone tried to use scary transclusions with parsoid and visual editor on their wiki?
[08:38:19] <ori>	 shawnbon206: what problem have you run into?
[09:16:58] <IanKelling>	 shawnbon206: chgrp might not do anything if the group permission is not right
[09:17:26] <IanKelling>	 apache on debian runs as the www-data user
[12:42:58] <thedj>	 MatmaRex: what do you think we should do with live preview + modules
[12:43:32] <MatmaRex>	 thedj: what do you mean?
[12:43:33] <thedj>	 MatmaRex: i'm looking at that module, and without a full rewrite, it seems to me that we need to send the text for parsing twice :(
[12:43:44] <MatmaRex>	 ah
[12:43:52] <thedj>	 because it actually does a normal preview request and then reparent some blocks
[12:43:59] <MatmaRex>	 well, yeah, it does need a rewrite
[12:44:14] <MatmaRex>	 API action=parse all the way
[12:44:19] <MatmaRex>	 it's just that no one bothered yet :(
[12:44:38] <thedj>	 well i understand why it works the way it does... no api for changing all the skin dependent stuff on the fly...
[12:45:20] <MatmaRex>	 it works the way it does because it was written that way some years ago, heh
[12:45:27] <MatmaRex>	 i wonder if we even had a api for this back then
[12:45:33] <thedj>	 actually we did
[12:45:36] * thedj  remembers

[12:47:04] <thedj>	 we chose not to use it, because we have nothing to support interlanguagelinks, categories etc...
[12:49:21] <MatmaRex>	 yeah, but we probably have that stuff now?
[12:51:00] <thedj>	 not as far as I know...
[12:51:51] <thedj>	                         // Main
[12:51:51] <thedj>	                         '#firstHeading',
[12:51:51] <thedj>	                         '#wikiPreview',
[12:51:51] <thedj>	                         '#wikiDiff',
[12:51:51] <thedj>	                         '#catlinks',
[12:51:53] <thedj>	                         '.hiddencats',
[12:51:56] <thedj>	                         '#p-lang',
[12:51:58] <thedj>	                         // Editing-related
[12:52:01] <thedj>	                         '.templatesUsed',
[12:52:03] <thedj>	                         '.limitreport',
[12:52:06] <thedj>	                         '.mw-summary-preview'
[12:53:53] <thedj>	 so we have catlinks, hiddencats, summary preview, p-lang, templatesused and limitreport that we replace...
[13:00:47] <thedj>	 hmm, i guess we can do some of those in vector/monobook only
[13:07:38] <addshore>	 is anyone around that has registered an OAuth consumer before? :)
[13:08:28] <MatmaRex>	 addshore: valhallasw, i think (https://tools.wmflabs.org/gerrit-patch-uploader/)
[13:08:30] <valhallasw>	 addshore: yes
[13:09:18] <addshore>	 valhallasw: having a little issue getting it to accept the format of the public key :/ Its giving a very usefull 'There are problems with some of your input.' and 'Invalid value provided' for the RSA key
[13:09:35] <valhallasw>	 addshore: oh - I was a bad developer(TM) and did not provide my own RSA key
[13:09:37] <addshore>	 even when entering it in PEM format as it requests :/
[13:09:44] <addshore>	 ahh :P
[13:10:06] <addshore>	 meh *goes to look at the code
[13:10:19] <valhallasw>	 addshore: maybe newlines at the end screwing things up or something? not sure
[13:11:11] <addshore>	 mhhhm, I have tried everything :E
[13:12:38] <valhallasw>	 addshore: just be a bad developer (TM) :-p
[13:13:11] <valhallasw>	 and/or ask brad
[13:13:33] <valhallasw>	 !seen anomie
[13:13:33] <wm-bot>	 Did you mean @seen anomie?
[13:13:40] <valhallasw>	 @seen anomie
[13:13:40] <wm-bot>	 valhallasw: Last time I saw anomie they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: ... N/A at 5/2/2014 9:00:36 PM (1d16h13m4s ago)
[13:14:12] <addshore>	 hehe,  bad developer (TM) it is for now
[13:16:23] <addshore>	 *wait for approval* :) tata for now
[13:19:01] <valhallasw>	 addshore: you don't need approval
[13:19:07] <valhallasw>	 you can always use the consumer yourself
[13:19:28] <addshore>	 woo! :)
[14:01:09] <thedj>	 MatmaRex: btw. i'm reworking the livepreview module now.
[14:01:26] <MatmaRex>	 yay!
[15:01:12] <Laran>	 Hi. How I can get all articles containing certain string IN TITLE using API? api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=STRING&format=json  don't return all articles containing STRING in the title
[15:03:31] <Laran>	 sorry wrong url... I have problem with this one: api.php?action=opensearch&search=STRING&limit=100&format=json
[15:04:26] <Vulpix>	 Laran: I think opensearch will give you pages starting with that string, and not simply containing that string
[15:04:43] <Laran>	 Yup, that's true
[15:04:57] <Laran>	 but I don't know how to solve this
[15:05:14] <Laran>	 to get all articles containing certain string in the title
[15:05:36] <Vulpix>	 for that, the only available api module is search, but I don't know how reliable is that
[15:06:44] <Vulpix>	 you won't have a api module for that, because such query can't be performed using any index, and that would be costly in terms of performance
[15:07:44] <Vulpix>	 on the other hand, I don't know if the search api can be used just for titles, excluding the contents
[15:11:21] <Laran>	 that's bad... mediawiki APIs are inaccurate, because long article contains a lot of different words and will be displayed in different result;/
[15:13:17] <Vulpix>	 Laran: what do you want to achieve?
[15:13:47] <Laran>	 to get most accurate results:P
[15:14:15] <Vulpix>	 results to what query?
[17:10:25] <pac1_>	 I'm trying to diagnose a setup problem with mediawiki.  I get "Alias /mediawiki /var/lib/mediawiki".  Apache appears to be looking for /var/www/html/mediawiki.php but for some reason it's missing.  locate fails to find it.
[17:11:17] <Vulpix>	 pac1_: > ls -l /var/lib/mediawiki
[17:11:24] <Vulpix>	 maybe you have a broken symlink there
[17:44:46] <jorm>	 can page names have | in them?
[17:45:24] <Vulpix>	 jorm: no
[17:45:32] <jorm>	 didn't think so.  that's excellent.
[17:45:48] <Vulpix>	 it would confuse the parser for [[Link|alternate text]] syntax
[18:43:30] <saper>	 nie muszą/win 22
[19:35:37] <shawnbon206>	 rar
[19:35:54] <shawnbon206>	 anyone successfully got the math extension to work on debian?
[19:52:21] <Juandev>	 hi
[23:05:22] <karma>	 okay, I made my own hosted wiki, now how do I make new user-groups?
[23:05:43] <Withoutaname>	 [[Manual:User rights]]?
[23:07:08] <Withoutaname>	 can someone please tell me why dom and other functions like file_get_contents( $title->getFullURL() ) are giving me 404 errors for my vagrant installation?
[23:28:35] <karma>	 I can't seem to understand it, how can I make it so I can have rights like "Staff" and other ones I can add, and staff would be global.
[23:28:54] <Krenair>	 global?
[23:28:59] <Krenair>	 you have CentralAuth installed?
[23:30:02] <karma>	 I need to do that
[23:31:46] <karma>	 wow, I really need a lot of help.. :(
[23:35:24] <Krenair>	 karma, what?
[23:35:42] <Krenair>	 karma, do you have multiple wikis?
[23:48:18] <karma>	 Krenair: No, but I'm trying to make a wikifarm, and I need help trying to set up a bunch of extensions and features.
[23:48:46] <Krenair>	 Ah
[23:48:53] <Krenair>	 CentralAuth is fun to set up.
[23:50:00] <karma>	 you good with that stuff, Krenair?
[23:50:15] <Krenair>	 Heh. I've set it up a couple of times
[23:50:59] <Krenair>	 karma, please don't PM me like that
[23:51:05] <karma>	 sorry
[23:52:30] <karma>	 I'ma start looking for people to help me, but I have a couple friends.. but I'm afraid that won't be enough.
[23:54:25] <Withoutaname|awa>	 hello?