as it's redundant [16:24:23] and put

at the end of the template [16:24:56] vulpix - deleting now, lets see what happens... [16:26:05] vulpix - still not floating right! :( [16:26:42] pinnygik: I don't see the table closed... [16:27:49] vulpix - just refreshed - table now closed, but still on the left and not embedded. It is now at the top! [16:29:46] pinnygik: well, the more I see that template, the more scared I am of the HTML syntax I see there... [16:30:25] Vulpix - It is a copy of one taken from Wiki as I cant export from there. [16:30:56] Now I've discovered there are one table inside another, and very weird HTML attributes mixed on elements where they shouldn't be there [16:32:09] vulpix - do you know where I can get a proper Template:infobox from Wiki when I cant export or special export? [16:32:40] pinnygik: why can't you export? [16:32:51] pinnygik: use this code for the template: http://dpaste.com/0PQF8CS.txt [16:33:11] wait [16:33:17] you're not allowed to use any content from wikipedia [16:33:52] jackmcbarn: what? [16:33:52] jackmcbarn - I type in the box, but it doesnt export anything. I followed all of the Mediawiki guidance, but that template I am using is the best I could get [16:34:04] his wiki is cc-by-nc-nd [16:34:10] that's incompatible with cc-by-sa [16:34:23] so it's a copyright violation for him to use any wikipedia content on his wiki [16:34:24] hmm, good point [16:35:15] ok now that I followed the advice to disable FlaggedRevs from applying NS_FILES the other day, I *still* have articles complaining that they reference unapproved template/file changes [16:35:42] and if I go and edit the file article, it does remove that file from the list of pending changes but guess what, it still complains the article references unapproved template or file changes [16:35:49] Vulpix - you are a genius! [16:35:50] with an empty list of things it is complaining about. [16:36:09] this extension is so buggy I am not sure it being described as "stable" on the mediawiki wiki is justified. [16:36:20] these are kind of fundamental site breaking issues. [16:36:38] QuasAtWork: why not just change $wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes to FR_INCLUDES_CURRENT ? [16:36:53] wasn't aware of that setting [16:37:25] jackmcbarn: what is cc-by-sa? [16:37:36] pinnygik: the license you picked when you set up your wiki [16:38:26] jackmcbarn: so I can change that to SA and use wiki templates? Not planning to use that much as it is a personal wiki. [16:38:32] pinnygik: yes [16:39:00] pinnygik: the things that start with $wgRights are what need changed [16:39:21] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Setting_copyright_for_the_site for help [16:40:05] hey anomie - I have an API question. [16:40:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=allpages&format=json&aplimit=10&export=&titles=Organic%20chemistry|New%20York%20City&redirects= [16:40:21] hi sumanah [16:40:40] anomie: within "query-continue" & within "allpages" - there's a "fuck you" in "apcontinue" [16:40:48] like, literally. "apcontinue": "!!Fuck_you!!" [16:41:00] why are you calling allpages and specifying a page list? it doesn't make sense [16:41:17] (and you're seeing that in apcontinue because it happens to be the (one of?) first alphabetical names on enwiki) [16:41:20] sumanah: That's because https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=!!Fuck_you!!&redirect=no exists [16:41:21] what in the world?! Is this because [16:41:22] oh [16:41:33] jackmcbarn: I seem to have made a mistake then [16:42:16] sumanah: easter egg! :P [16:43:45] anomie: Frances was trying to demonstrate something in a workshop just now and we accidentally chose allpages when we shouldn't have. [16:44:06] I then cracked "yes, the API can be a little offputting at first" and I will correct myself at the first opportunity [16:44:18] lol [16:44:37] how infortunate [16:44:55] but funny [16:45:21] Sumanah: aww. But thats actually halarious [16:46:11] WikiCon2014 represent! [16:46:51] Thanks all :-) [16:47:21] * anomie doesn't know why that redirect exists, anyway; it should be "!!!Fuck You!!!" (with three exclamation points) [16:47:31] Frances I think tried to do something in a way that seemed simpler but led to demo curse :-) I used it as an opportunity to talk about inevitable mistakes, the need to iterate, and the helpfulness of #mediawiki [16:48:08] (in retrospect, yes, hilarious) [16:49:26] I went to the glam one. No computers swore at me. I feel left out [16:56:18] YAY her demo just now worked! :-) [16:59:05] Hello! Can anyone help me? [16:59:50] Froppe: maybe. depends on the question :) [16:59:51] !ask [17:00:13] I'm having troublke with infoboxes [17:00:39] can't get em to work :( [17:02:13] Froppe: did you try to copy your infobox code from wikipedia? [17:03:06] i tried to use a template but can't get it to work.. We have a own wiki-site for our club ( Handball) http://wikiuhk.se/index.php?title=Froppe and im trying to add a infobox to this page [17:03:28] Froppe: first of all, if you copied code from wikipedia, you're violating our copyright since you don't have a license set [17:03:47] License? [17:04:05] look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Setting_copyright_for_the_site and set it up with cc-by-sa in your LocalSettings.php file [17:04:11] if you don't do that, you're not allowed to use any content from wikipedia [17:06:18] how do i get a license set? What do i need to do? [17:08:21] Froppe: follow the directions on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php#Setting_copyright_for_the_site [17:10:42] don't even have acess to the files they talking about there! all i want is to set up a infobox on a blank page :) [17:11:35] Froppe: is this your wiki? [17:12:21] it's my clubs wiki.. have really nothing to do with it just trying to add a infobox on a blank page .) [17:12:35] Froppe: using wikipedia's infoboxes is a copyright violation then [17:12:42] you need to tell whoever runs it to license it under cc-by-sa [17:17:49] We just have to license the site under cc-by-sa? [17:18:57] Froppe: there's other stuff too, but first you have to do that [17:19:39] all this trouble just to make infoboxes.... :( [17:20:11] Froppe: other stuff you need to tell whoever runs your wiki, is to install the ParserFunctions and Scribunto extensions [17:20:27] once he does the license and those 2 extensions, then you should be able to get infoboxes working the rest of the way yourself [17:24:11] okey will tell them that [18:03:28] back, Ive changed resource [18:52:14] in 10 min: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-05-30 discussion of extension registration RfC in #wikimedia-office [18:54:31] May someone point me to the list of license abbreviations for use with "license-name" with $wgExtensionCredits [18:55:47] So far I have seen GPLv2+ or GPL-2.0+ [18:56:16] the latter is probably better since one may do better voodoo with it [18:56:50] Yeah, no flag, which basically rules out the first version [18:57:03] kghbln: i don't think there's any validation check on this [18:57:26] kghbln: code comments in DefaultSettings.php say: "- license-name: Short name of the license (used as label for the link), such as "GPL-2.0" or "MIT" (https://spdx.org/licenses/ for a list of identifiers)." [18:58:19] MatmaRex Great pointer. I believe that I will add this info to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtensionCredits [18:58:30] kghbln: the place to look for documentation for $wgWhatever variables is first mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWhatever, then DefaultSettings.php in the repository [18:58:53] (ideally these two places would be synchronised, but they often aren't) [18:59:35] MatmaRex Well I did the first thing but was not smart enough to go for DefaultSettings.php ;) [18:59:42] :) [18:59:52] MatmaRex Let me sync now. :) [18:59:58] :D [19:03:43] Extension registration conversation happening now in #wikimedia-office [19:12:00] hello [19:12:17] looking for support anyone here? [19:12:21] hi Filoless [19:12:26] Filoless: what help do you need? [19:12:54] i need help for a couple of things [19:12:59] about mediawiki of course [19:13:38] Filoless: go ahead [19:13:45] Filoless: if you talk about your problem, we can often help. [19:14:38] thanks (: i'm just checking what i've installed [19:15:07] MediaWiki 1.21.1 PHP 5.3.28 MySQL 5.5.36-34.2 [19:15:50] Filoless: there have been security updates for 1.21, you should upgrade to 1.21.10 at least [19:16:26] so i've set up a wiki about indie music, i'm the editor -in chief of an indie mag [19:16:44] Cool! [19:17:06] we have a division of our mag on another country and i'd like to set up a wiki family [19:18:10] Vulpix: yeah thx i'd like to install 1.23 when it'll be LTS [19:19:07] the purpose is that we don't translate our reviews but the interlink means where the mag is located [19:19:20] Filoless: you can upgrade from 1.21.1 to 1.21.10 without problems, it won't introduce any bugs, but may fix some of them, and security holes [19:19:33] it.wiki --> italian mag [19:19:41] en.wiki --> english mag [19:20:34] i read a couple of help pages about it but i'm a little bit confused [19:21:01] !wikifarm [19:21:10] Filoless: ^ does that help? [19:21:39] lo, so easy? [19:21:43] *lol [19:22:36] yes i already read that manual but sometimes there are some contradictions [19:23:07] MatmaRex Done on wiki. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExtensionCredits#license all fluffy now I suppose [19:23:16] kghbln: yay [19:23:50] MatmaRex Great and thank you for your help! [19:29:16] anyway, while i'll read again wiki family manual and downloading 1.21.10 i'll ask a minor question [19:29:33] how do i set a background color like this light violet http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation [19:29:48] without editing CSS? [19:31:32] Filoless: use inline CSS:

[19:33:46] yep i used that too but the result isn't the same [19:34:08] for example the Title area remains of the main color [20:37:11] is php case sensitive, I'm not sure if it matters but I see references to User::getID() when the only function I see is User::getId(), I don't know if that can cause fails or not [20:39:53] hello [20:40:04] I googled qiuckly: [20:40:20] Withoutaname: Yes, it is. [20:40:46] case sensitive [20:42:09] Withoutaname: to elaborate, it sometimes is and sometimes isn't [20:43:06] I think a lot of calls to getID() would fail already because that doesn't exist in User.php [20:43:31] http://the-echoplex.net/log/php-case-sensitivity this seems to be correct at a glance [20:43:39] I get a redeclare... [20:47:07] well, http://pastebin.de/raw/?id=126519 works, so I'm at least partly wrong. [23:51:36] how does mediawiki check membership for $wgImplicitGroups [23:51:53] Can you give a bit more context than that? [23:52:49] Does MediaWiki check for User::isLoggedOn() before granting you access to the "user" implicitgroup? [23:53:28] or count your edits and number of days passed for the "autoconfirmed" user group [23:54:09] implicitgroups aren't stored in a table like explicit groups are in user_groups [23:54:30] how would we know who is autoconfirmed and who is not [23:56:01] hm, should $wgImplicitGroups even be a configurable setting, or have it hardcoded into MW? Are there any cases where one would want to remove the '*' or 'user' implicitgroups?