[01:17:57] <OldCampingStuff>	 hello i am on version 1.23.0 and reference citations are not working for me, http://pastebin.com/YairHVxD
[01:18:10] <OldCampingStuff>	 am i doing something wrong there?
[01:18:17] <bawolff>	 !wptemplates
[01:18:17] <wm-bot>	 To copy templates from Wikipedia, use Special:Export and check the "Include templates" option to get all the sub-templates, then upload the file with Special:Import on your wiki. You'll also likely have to install the ParserFunctions extension, Scribunto extension and install/enable HTML tidy. You also might need some CSS from Wikipedia's Common.css. You'll also need a lot of...
[01:18:35] <bawolff>	 OldCampingStuff: You need to instal the Cite extension, and copy the {{reflist}} template from wikipedia
[01:19:06] <bawolff>	 those aren't included in the default install (Well Cite extension may be an option in the installer, can't remember. {{reflist}} definitely is not included by default)
[01:19:11] <bawolff>	 !e Cite
[01:19:11] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[01:20:44] <OldCampingStuff>	 ok thank you i will see what i can do
[08:37:14] <zPlus>	 hello, I'm building a free map where people can add pictures to points of interests. For example one can look up "Saint Jacques Street" and add pictures of that street. Since all pictures will be CC-licensed, I was wondering if it's OK to upload them to commons.wikimedia.org
[10:38:31] <stoo_>	 hi, I need to delete a page I created on mediawiki.org, but I have no sysop rights. (page is Survey_url) can anyone help?
[10:38:59] <stoo_>	 did it by mistake. Sorry. Noob error...
[10:57:44] <legoktm>	 stoo_: looking
[10:58:11] <legoktm>	 stoo_: deleted
[10:58:19] <stoo_>	 thanks! :)
[12:43:06] <zPlus>	 I'm trying to use mediawiki api to upload a picture. I'm reading this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Upload but I don't understand if I can upload a picture without signing in...
[12:58:23] <andre__>	 zPlus: Well, depends on the settings in MediaWiki I guess. Try and see? :P
[12:59:35] <zPlus>	 andre__: apparently only signed in users can get an "edit token" (used to upload pictures)
[13:08:52] <MatmaRex>	 zPlus: by default non-registered users can't upload anything anyway
[13:09:29] <MatmaRex>	 zPlus: all anonymous users get the same pseudo-edit-token, you should just use that and APIs that require an edit token should work
[13:09:37] <MatmaRex>	 (as long as anons are allowed to use the APIs at all)
[13:18:52] <zPlus>	 MatmaRex: I'm trying uploading as a signed in user, but I always get this error
[13:18:54] <zPlus>	 <error code="permissiondenied" info="Permission denied" xml:space="preserve">
[13:18:55] <zPlus>	 how can I obtain "edit" right?
[13:19:46] <MatmaRex>	 no idea, depends on the wiki
[15:33:47] <sumanah>	 StevenW: hey, if you have your slides from "Data, Privacy, & Trust in Open Source" you can upload them to the Open Source Bridge wiki http://opensourcebridge.org/wiki/2014/Data%2C_Privacy%2C_%26_Trust_in_Open_Source%3A_10_Lessons_from_Wikipedia 
[15:47:52] <Ulfr>	 allo all, got another simple question for the brain trust! how do I apply PHP headers to a mediawiki site? Should I just plop the statements on localsettings?
[16:31:49] <qgil>	 sumanah, hi
[16:34:14] <sumanah>	 qgil: browser trouble, there soon
[16:34:21] <qgil>	 ok
[16:34:35] <Piotrek>	 Hi.
[16:34:56] <Piotrek>	 I have a problem with name conflict in namespaces.
[16:35:00] <norbert>	 hey folks, question: I included an animated gif in this page but the thumb isn't animated; I would like it to be full-size (original size) and animate; any suggestions what I should do? http://www.princed.org/wiki/Broken_room_link
[16:35:09] <Piotrek>	 And Idk how to fix it.
[16:37:28] <Piotrek>	 My wiki was moving off wikifarm. We imported pages, including Project: pages, however, with different prefix.
[16:37:28] <Vulpix>	 norbert: thumbnails often make the animation to be lost. If you want it full size, use |frame| instead of |thumb|
[16:38:38] <Vulpix>	 Piotrek: hmmmm..., so did you imported without creating the namespaces first?
[16:38:53] <norbert>	 Vulpix: thanks, that did the trick :)
[16:39:04] <Piotrek>	 Somebody moved them to Project: NS, but, unfortunately, forgot to disable creating redirects, and moved the whole Project: NS then.
[16:39:08] <Piotrek>	 Vulpix: yea
[16:40:09] <Piotrek>	 And now, when trying to access page in that NS you sometimes access it, sometimes redirect in main NS.
[16:41:24] <Piotrek>	 (or, when I deleted one of those redirexys in main NS - log entries about it)
[16:41:31] <Piotrek>	 *redirects
[16:43:35] <Vulpix>	 Piotrek: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:NamespaceDupes.php seems to do the job
[16:45:08] <Ulfr>	 Vulpix: Do you think the real Vulpix eats as many bugs as you do? :D
[16:45:23] <Vulpix>	 lol
[16:45:37] <Piotrek>	 Vulpix: Thanks, I'll ask our hosting admin for that.
[17:46:41] <lulzim>	 Hi, can anyone help me with this: MediaWiki 1.23.1 installation [7c5805de] /mw-config/ Exception from line 318 includes/MagicWord.php: Error: invalid magic word 'babel'
[17:46:50] <lulzim>	 I've tried some of the things that are online...
[17:46:59] <lulzim>	 nothing seems to work
[17:48:05] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: are you upgrading from an old version?
[17:48:29] <lulzim>	 no
[17:48:40] <lulzim>	 i've just installed this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle
[17:48:49] <lulzim>	 and it said that i should re-run the installation
[17:50:58] <Vulpix>	 weird, let me do a quick test if I can reproduce
[17:52:17] <lulzim>	 nice, thank you so much
[17:54:31] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: did you installed all extensions from MLEB? or only some of them?
[17:58:16] <sumana-h>	 hi fhocutt 
[18:02:37] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: everything that was on that page 
[18:03:06] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: http://pastebin.com/kbz9L5QW
[18:04:00] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: i guess that's all of the packages
[18:04:03] <lulzim>	 needed
[18:04:05] <fhocutt>	 hi sumanah
[18:04:19] * sumana-h reloads
[18:06:03] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: yeah, I just found it and same error :(
[18:06:25] <lulzim>	 damn
[18:07:05] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: most of the solutions you will find are to rebuild cache and run update.php
[18:07:12] <Vulpix>	 in fact, it only needs Babel to explode
[18:07:12] <lulzim>	 none of them didn't work
[18:07:42] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: can you try this one php rebuildLocalisationCache.php --force
[18:07:56] <lulzim>	 and this  php maintenance/update.php
[18:08:37] <Vulpix>	 running right now
[18:09:47] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: this seems to work for everyone i don't know why, https://www.mail-archive.com/mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00600.html
[18:10:47] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: it doesn't work for me. At least not in the installer page
[18:11:15] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: basically, if you run update.php, you don't need to run the web installer, since both do the same
[18:11:31] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: aha
[18:11:52] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: how can i make sure that the installer is doing what it is supposed to do?
[18:12:05] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: because with update.php you can't see the errors i guess
[18:13:04] <Vulpix>	 lulzim: the error only happens on the installer because MediaWiki tries to parse that page somehow. The update.php script doesn't call the parser
[18:22:34] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: i'm trying if at least if it works..
[18:22:41] <lulzim>	 i'm following this example http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example
[18:22:49] <lulzim>	 i guess it should work i don't know
[18:36:59] <lulzim>	 Vulpix: thank you so much, it seems to work now we are reading the documentation about how to translate pages...
[18:37:01] <lulzim>	 thank you again
[18:37:16] <Vulpix>	 you're welcome
[18:37:30] <Vulpix>	 I'm going to report the bug about the error in the installer, though
[18:37:55] <lulzim>	 yes yes definitely, because it doesn't make sense
[19:02:52] <lulzim>	 does anyone know how to remove /language when you translate something using Extenstion:Tranlsate?
[19:03:04] <lulzim>	 you have to add that every time...
[19:03:22] <lulzim>	 example: http://wiki.prishtinahackerspace.org/index.php?title=Testing_translation/sq and http://wiki.prishtinahackerspace.org/index.php?title=Testing_translation
[19:05:18] <lulzim>	 language code
[19:11:21] <lulzim>	 anyone?
[19:12:44] <legoktm>	 maybe ask in #mediawiki-i18n?
[19:13:17] <Vulpix>	 #mediawiki-i18n (question mark not part of the channel)
[19:31:28] <altin>	 Hey guys, I am adding * LANGUAGES to my Mediawiki:Sidebar
[19:31:33] <altin>	 but I see no languages showing up
[19:31:51] <altin>	 however, when I add the <langauges /> code to my article I see the other language
[19:31:59] <altin>	 but I want it to be shown on the sidebar...
[19:33:08] <Vulpix>	 altin: * LANGUAGES is for interlanguage links, not for languages of the translated article
[19:34:47] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 altin: have a look at the Polyglot extension, perhaps
[19:35:15] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 should be made to integrate with the T&ranslate extension more nicely though. or does it?
[19:35:28] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 havn't touched that extension in five years or so...
[20:23:02] <ubersmurt>	 hello! need help using the #if function in a template. it seems the #if function always returns true. can view the markup & template at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ubersmurt
[20:26:54] <Nemo_bis>	 sigh how hideous are those ace checkouts in our repo, always messing up with grepping XMLContentExtension/assets/js/ace/ace-builds-master/src-min-noconflict/ext-statusbar.js
[20:27:30] <Nemo_bis>	 ubersmurt: tried https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Parser_functions_in_templates ?
[20:27:43] <saper>	 ubersmurt: tried {{#if: .... }} instead of {{{if}}} ?
[20:27:56] <Vulpix>	 ^
[20:29:45] <ubersmurt>	 {{#if}} doesn't seem to fix it. i'll try re-reading the help article
[20:32:55] <ubersmurt>	 hmmm... it works on mediawiki now but still not on personal wiki. wiki admin said they installed and enabled the parser functions. any other ideas?
[21:13:11] <DarkFeather>	 Anyone here?
[21:13:27] <MatmaRex>	 sure
[21:13:28] <MatmaRex>	 !ask
[21:13:28] <wm-bot>	 Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :)
[21:13:41] <DarkFeather>	 I've got a new Wiki that's hosted by MediaWiki.
[21:14:11] <DarkFeather>	 I have edited both Common.css and Monobook.css with a body{} CSS property to set the background. Neither is respected. Where do I set the Wiki-wide background?
[21:14:16] <DarkFeather>	 Templates is broken.
[21:15:11] <MatmaRex>	 DarkFeather: can you give a link to the wiki?
[21:15:21] <DarkFeather>	 acwfanon.wikia.com
[21:16:10] <MatmaRex>	 DarkFeather: `body { background: red; }` works for me on MonoBook
[21:16:18] <DarkFeather>	 On that Wiki?
[21:16:22] <MatmaRex>	 hm, wikia? they do a lot of weird things…
[21:16:53] <MatmaRex>	 that is the Oasis skin and not MonoBook, as far as i can tell
[21:17:06] <DarkFeather>	 Why does Common.css not override?
[21:17:30] <MatmaRex>	 i don't know. maybe Wikia disabled it
[21:17:52] <DarkFeather>	 How do I enable it?
[21:17:59] <Krenair>	 I suggest asking Wikia, DarkFeather.
[21:18:14] <DarkFeather>	 Where do I go for that? This was the channel listed on their page.
[21:18:21] <Krenair>	 We don't necessarily know.
[21:18:21] <DarkFeather>	 Do I have to do it through talkpages?
[21:18:23] <MatmaRex>	 DarkFeather: ooh, try using '.WikiaSiteWrapper' instead of 'body'
[21:18:24] <DarkFeather>	 <.<
[21:18:56] <DarkFeather>	 MatmaRex, again the changes are not respected.
[21:19:07] <DarkFeather>	 Krenair, I thought this was the mediawiki help channel?
[21:19:12] <Krenair>	 It is.
[21:19:20] <MatmaRex>	 DarkFeather: give it five minutes first, it might take a while to kick in
[21:19:21] <DarkFeather>	 And no one knows how to ask Wikia?
[21:19:25] <DarkFeather>	 <.<
[21:19:25] <Krenair>	 Not me.
[21:19:40] <MatmaRex>	 DarkFeather: hm, you haven't changed the page, though?
[21:20:10] <DarkFeather>	 Hang on, the class verses body worked. Now I just have to get it to stop doing stupid scaling things.
[21:21:38] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 DarkFeather: you are setting the background for the <body> tag. Perhaps all of that is covered by other elements? Try setting a style for the .WikiaPageBackground class.
[21:22:01] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 DarkFeather: or for .WikiaPage
[21:22:07] <DarkFeather>	 DanielK_WMDE_, .WikiaSiteWrapper is the correct class.
[21:22:29] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 oh, MatmaRex was ahead of me, i'm slow :P
[21:23:21] <DarkFeather>	 Simpler question: How do I get rid of the wordmark text so the image is used instead of gross text?
[21:24:46] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 DarkFeather: what image do you want to get used where?
[21:25:21] <DarkFeather>	 I have two images: a wordmark and a background, to go in the obvious places
[21:27:12] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 no idea where the text comes from. you could hide it via css, but i'm not sure that's the best solution
[21:28:00] <DarkFeather>	 that is not the best solution.
[21:29:08] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 there is probably a system message you could set to an empty string.
[21:29:14] <DanielK_WMDE_>	 but i have no idea which one
[21:30:00] <DarkFeather>	 It's under preferences. Got it.
[22:48:21] <bawolff>	 ^d: In addition to the Special:RandomNotInCategory bug, It would be really cool if cirrus overrode the Special:RandomIncategory page, as the sql used for that page is really putting the "pseudo" in "pseudo-random"
[23:22:51] <^d>	 bawolff: I'll poke it :)