tag of an article page is set? [13:47:16] <MatmaRex> le4fy: when something calls OutputPage::setHTMLTitle() [13:47:29] <MatmaRex> (or one of the related methods, possibly) [13:48:44] <retentiveboy> Hello71: I'm not following [13:56:31] <le4fy> MatmaRex: thanks [15:19:52] <wmat> is there a fast way to get a list of all zip files that have been uploaded to a wiki? [15:27:43] <wmat> ideally i'd like a Special page that lists all Files with a zip extension [15:27:56] <wmat> i'm wondering if i should install SMW to do this [15:32:33] <marktraceur> wmat: I think there's a way...sec [15:33:10] <marktraceur> wmat: There's MIMESearch [15:33:10] <marktraceur> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MIMESearch [15:33:22] * wmat looks [15:33:58] <marktraceur> You'll be searching for application/x-zip-compressed [15:34:12] <marktraceur> Which might give you some files that are ZIPs but not named as such :) [15:38:58] <wmat> hmmm, i can't get it to return anything [15:39:51] <wmat> well, image/jpeg worked [15:43:43] <marktraceur> wmat: Maybe there aren't any zip files? [15:44:18] <wmat> marktraceur: there are 100s [15:44:56] <marktraceur> Hm. [15:45:01] <marktraceur> wmat: Try searching for intitle:.zip [15:46:46] <wmat> from the mime type special search page? [15:46:54] <marktraceur> No, from the normal search [15:47:27] <wmat> i use GoogleSiteSearch, does that matter? [15:48:52] <marktraceur> It will probably not work. [15:49:20] <wmat> fwiw, application/x-zip-compressed returns nothing on wikipedia as well [15:49:37] <wmat> brb [15:49:38] <marktraceur> Because we don't allow zip file uploads [15:50:01] <marktraceur> wmat: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AMIMESearch&mime=image%2Fjpeg definitely works for me [15:50:17] <marktraceur> Maybe we just don't have a MIME type registered for ZIP files or something equally silly [16:15:54] <Automatik> hi. Could someone tell me an example of mw.Title.exists() which works? I didn't find [16:19:10] <Automatik> for example alert( mw.Title( 'English' ).exists() ); returns 'null' [16:19:12] <wmat> marktraceur: i did get the jpeg one to work, still no luck with zip. I may have to resort to a sql query [16:19:40] <marktraceur> Huh. [16:20:04] <marktraceur> wmat: Can you look at a zip file you know exists and try to find its MIME type according to Mediawiki? Maybe it's different. [16:21:19] <wmat> marktraceur: Type - Compressed (zipped) Folder [16:21:42] <marktraceur> Ugh, not helpful mediawiki [16:21:42] <marktraceur> Sec [16:22:19] <marktraceur> wmat: Try something like http://localhost/wiki/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File%3ASoccer_ball_animated.svg [16:22:24] <marktraceur> Er [16:22:34] <marktraceur> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File%3ASoccer_ball_animated.svg [16:25:20] <wmat> marktraceur: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File:AM335x_DS0_PadConf_Tool_v1.zipFile:AM335x_DS0_PadConf_Tool_v1.zip [16:25:58] <marktraceur> wmat: OK, that just says application/zip [16:26:26] <marktraceur> wmat: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php?title=Special%3AMIMESearch&mime=application%2Fzip [16:26:44] <marktraceur> Over 500 results :) [16:26:51] <wmat> beautiful! [16:27:00] <wmat> marktraceur: thanks! [16:27:17] <marktraceur> Yup! [16:27:30] <marktraceur> And yeah, that's the canonical MIME type, dunno what crappy source I used to get the other one [16:30:20] <greg-g> probably Wikipedia [16:34:58] <marktraceur> greg-g: WP has it right! [16:37:19] <^d> I need to finish my metadata patch so you can search by it. [16:37:57] <marktraceur> Yesplz [16:38:13] <marktraceur> Or we can just wait for wikidata on commons :) [16:49:24] <Automatik> someone to help me? [16:51:11] <greg-g> Automatik: what's the problem? I probably can't help, but someone else might who sees your question (once you ask it) [16:51:29] <Automatik> (18:15:52) Automatik: hi. Could someone tell me an example of mw.Title.exists() which works? I didn't find [16:52:43] <Automatik> more than 1 hour and I didn't found a simple way to know if a page exists [16:56:55] <marktraceur> Ah [16:57:05] <marktraceur> Automatik: Yeah, that's not easy on the client right now [16:57:12] <marktraceur> Automatik: Can I ask what you're trying to accomplish? :) [16:57:39] <marktraceur> Sorry I missed your message above [16:57:47] <Automatik> it's not for me, but just check if a page exist in order to put with a script some delete template [16:58:01] <marktraceur> Hmm [16:58:41] <marktraceur> Automatik: In what context are you determining page existence? I mean, do you get a list of articles from a page's links? From an API call? Or are you just fetching the contents of a form field and trying to delete that? [17:00:17] <Automatik> Actually I'm on a page called 'Talk:Example/Delete' and I want to know if 'Example' still exists or not [17:02:52] <marktraceur> Ah. [17:03:01] <marktraceur> Automatik: I think you can cheat a bit here [17:03:10] <Automatik> yeah? [17:03:36] <marktraceur> Oh...wait. [17:03:44] <marktraceur> If it's a subpage...maybe not [17:04:04] <marktraceur> Shoot. [17:04:29] <marktraceur> Automatik: I was about to say you could check whether the "Page" tab link had the redlink class on it [17:04:46] <marktraceur> But that would tell you that [[Example/Delete]] existed or not, which isn't helpful [17:05:08] <Automatik> ah ok good idea, I think there is a link on the page for 'Example' anyway [17:05:16] <marktraceur> That would work then [17:05:18] <Automatik> so, I'll try it [17:05:36] <marktraceur> Not sure if that's a foolproof idea, but it would work [17:05:44] <Automatik> yes [17:05:45] <marktraceur> Your fallback is to ask the API about existence, I guess [17:08:45] <Automatik> I'm not sure to understand what you're saying [17:10:08] <marktraceur> Automatik: The other choice you have is to call the MediaWiki API to ask whether the page exists [17:10:17] <Automatik> yes [17:11:44] <marktraceur> Automatik: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Blah|aheountheothaoeu&format=json is probably what you want [17:12:05] <marktraceur> action=query&prop=info&titles=Whatever [17:12:11] <Automatik> yes i'm trying it [17:27:58] <milimetric> anyone have success accessing mediawiki content from JS with CORS? [17:28:09] <milimetric> something like this isn't working: [17:28:10] <milimetric> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&format=json&titles=Dashboard:test&origin=http://localhost:5000 [17:38:20] <Nikerabbit> milimetric: localhost isn't whitelisted on wikimedia sites [17:39:43] <milimetric> Nikerabbit: thanks! (sucks :)) [18:01:36] <fhocutt> hello YuviPanda|zzz! [18:36:53] <Automatik> marktraceur: thank you for your help. It seems odd that mw object does not provide an exists() function client-side, but now I wrote one that seems to work http://jsfiddle.net/qb5Ay/ [19:42:09] <tdannecy> I'm looking through the Audio player extension category/page and I've tried several of these extensions already. In your opinion, what is the best solution for embedding a player on a Mediawiki page? I need to play mp3's and flacs. [20:01:22] <Guest54557> is it possible to hide user talk from non registered users ? (also looking into the same for recent changes ) [20:01:36] <marktraceur> Guest54557: Hide or disable? [20:01:39] <Guest54557> well not just hide but to prevent any access [20:01:41] <marktraceur> Ah. [20:01:46] <Guest54557> disable is better [20:01:58] <marktraceur> Guest54557: Probably, but you might need to write code for it... [20:02:07] * marktraceur is feeling less helpful than usual right now though [20:25:30] <QuasAtWork> is there a means to control the type of icon that appears next to particular external links based on their protocol? [20:28:03] <tdannecy> QuasAtWork: I'd check out this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MIME_type_detection [20:29:04] <QuasAtWork> this is related to the protocol, not the file type [20:29:13] <QuasAtWork> basically my issue is with https links. [20:29:28] <QuasAtWork> they display a lock, and to me a lock doesn't indicate security but a restriction [20:31:43] <QuasAtWork> like, something you'd need a password to access. [20:31:55] <csteipp> QuasAtWork: Those were removed in 1.24, you could probably find the commit that did the change. [20:32:02] <QuasAtWork> ah, wasn't aware. [20:32:07] <QuasAtWork> we're presently on 1.22.5 [20:32:27] <QuasAtWork> were going to upgrade last weekend but plans fell through [20:33:15] <csteipp> Actually, 1.23 should have them removed also... It was a while back when those came out. [22:25:32] <sumanah> hey James_F [22:28:48] <James_F> Hey sumanah. How can I help? [22:31:18] * fhocutt waves to sumanah [22:32:22] <sumanah> Hi fhocutt & James_F [22:32:40] <fhocutt> how are you doing? [22:33:03] <sumanah> fhocutt: odd but will be ok. You? [22:33:17] <fhocutt> pretty well! [22:33:51] <sumanah> James_F: thank you for that chat we had in January, it helped me a lot. [22:33:55] <sumanah> (I think it was January) [22:34:08] <fhocutt> took a look at JWBF with Nik this afternoon, and am working on the Ruby eval [22:34:15] <James_F> sumanah: Happy to help! [22:35:35] <sumanah> hey Krenair [22:35:40] <Krenair> oh, hey [22:35:52] <Krenair> (Sorry, FreeNode just decided that my VPS had too many connections open to it) [22:36:02] <Krenair> Or rather, dickson did, probably >_> [22:36:12] <sumanah> Krenair: oh no worries; I myself shouldn't even be here today, I am not feeling 100% [22:36:43] <Krenair> pm [22:37:20] <sumanah> Sure [22:37:31] <sumanah> fhocutt: how was it getting back into Java? [22:41:23] <fhocutt> wordy. [22:41:34] <fhocutt> very glad to be talking with an experienced Java dev [22:48:34] <sumana-h> fhocutt: there's a joke that the problem with code in Java isn't the length, it's the width ..... and that the reason we call the IDE Eclipse is that a Java file is so big it blocks out the sun [22:48:47] <fhocutt> yep! [22:49:26] <fhocutt> so I need to get Eclipse set up and do some digging, but Nik said that JWBF generally looked like it was done by someone who knew what they were doing and wanted to do things pretty much right [22:49:37] <fhocutt> today I am doing Ruby things though [22:49:54] <fhocutt> and possibly collecting my giant pile of Ruby resources into a blogpost so I can clear out my tabs [22:56:05] <sumanah_> fhocutt: a pile of rubies? [22:56:12] <sumanah_> watch out - you may be a dragon [22:56:19] <sumanah_> rarrrrrrr [22:56:26] * fhocutt grins [22:56:29] <sumanah_> I am glad that JWBF looks reasonable! I am less glad that the wifi here is terrible. am about to go [22:56:35] <fhocutt> ok! [22:56:38] <fhocutt> feel better soon [22:58:45] <sumanah_> Thanks! [23:55:53] <parent5446> Krenair [23:56:10] <parent5446> You there? [23:56:44] <Krenair> Hey parent5446 [23:56:48] <Krenair> Can we speak in PM please? [23:56:52] <parent5446> Yes

[00:41:52] dumb question i'm sure, but why does some text not wrap to the browswer window width on a wiki page but rather scroll of the right edge of the page? [00:50:26] wmat: is it in a monospace font? [01:26:08] Hello! [01:27:06] Can someone help me with some doubts about "Support Desk" funcionality? [01:37:42] im a noob and dont know much but id like to see your question anyway [01:37:57] FelipeEliaBR: ^ [02:07:30] Tks OldCamping, btw sorry by my poor english :D [02:07:57] I just wanna have the same funcionality as seen in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk [02:10:15] FelipeEliaBR: I think that's liquidthreads https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads [02:11:00] thanks A LOT!!!! [06:12:42] so I just upgraded my wiki and getting some weird autodiscovery mechanism warning crap polluting my main page, anyone can tell me what thats about? [06:36:56] Is there a way to get raw parameters from the url containing invalid utf-8 sequences ? [09:01:14] Hi guys! Short question: [09:01:51] Is it secure to allow my users to upload Microsoft Office files (.doc and .docx)? Or does that open a security hole? [09:02:33] (related to this Support Request: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Thread:Project:Support_desk/Is_there_a_way_to_upload_MS_Excel_.xls_files_and_PDF_files_in_Mediawiki%3F) [13:28:56] I threw together an extension to provide directory listings for a Subversion repository. See http://goo.gl/MJx6Ri for details. Entries in the listing are links like [[SVN:URL]] where URL is the Subversion repository URL. The extension generates articles on demand for the SVN namespace. [13:29:26] Trouble is, URLs with underscores and spaces are all foobar. Looking for a better way to pass the URL. [13:29:46] Any ideas welcome. [13:35:28] {{SVN:URL}} [13:39:53] can anyone tell me where the tag of an article page is set? [13:47:16] <MatmaRex> le4fy: when something calls OutputPage::setHTMLTitle() [13:47:29] <MatmaRex> (or one of the related methods, possibly) [13:48:44] <retentiveboy> Hello71: I'm not following [13:56:31] <le4fy> MatmaRex: thanks [15:19:52] <wmat> is there a fast way to get a list of all zip files that have been uploaded to a wiki? [15:27:43] <wmat> ideally i'd like a Special page that lists all Files with a zip extension [15:27:56] <wmat> i'm wondering if i should install SMW to do this [15:32:33] <marktraceur> wmat: I think there's a way...sec [15:33:10] <marktraceur> wmat: There's MIMESearch [15:33:10] <marktraceur> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MIMESearch [15:33:22] * wmat looks [15:33:58] <marktraceur> You'll be searching for application/x-zip-compressed [15:34:12] <marktraceur> Which might give you some files that are ZIPs but not named as such :) [15:38:58] <wmat> hmmm, i can't get it to return anything [15:39:51] <wmat> well, image/jpeg worked [15:43:43] <marktraceur> wmat: Maybe there aren't any zip files? [15:44:18] <wmat> marktraceur: there are 100s [15:44:56] <marktraceur> Hm. [15:45:01] <marktraceur> wmat: Try searching for intitle:.zip [15:46:46] <wmat> from the mime type special search page? [15:46:54] <marktraceur> No, from the normal search [15:47:27] <wmat> i use GoogleSiteSearch, does that matter? [15:48:52] <marktraceur> It will probably not work. [15:49:20] <wmat> fwiw, application/x-zip-compressed returns nothing on wikipedia as well [15:49:37] <wmat> brb [15:49:38] <marktraceur> Because we don't allow zip file uploads [15:50:01] <marktraceur> wmat: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AMIMESearch&mime=image%2Fjpeg definitely works for me [15:50:17] <marktraceur> Maybe we just don't have a MIME type registered for ZIP files or something equally silly [16:15:54] <Automatik> hi. Could someone tell me an example of mw.Title.exists() which works? I didn't find [16:19:10] <Automatik> for example alert( mw.Title( 'English' ).exists() ); returns 'null' [16:19:12] <wmat> marktraceur: i did get the jpeg one to work, still no luck with zip. I may have to resort to a sql query [16:19:40] <marktraceur> Huh. [16:20:04] <marktraceur> wmat: Can you look at a zip file you know exists and try to find its MIME type according to Mediawiki? Maybe it's different. [16:21:19] <wmat> marktraceur: Type - Compressed (zipped) Folder [16:21:42] <marktraceur> Ugh, not helpful mediawiki [16:21:42] <marktraceur> Sec [16:22:19] <marktraceur> wmat: Try something like http://localhost/wiki/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File%3ASoccer_ball_animated.svg [16:22:24] <marktraceur> Er [16:22:34] <marktraceur> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File%3ASoccer_ball_animated.svg [16:25:20] <wmat> marktraceur: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=mime|mediatype&titles=File:AM335x_DS0_PadConf_Tool_v1.zipFile:AM335x_DS0_PadConf_Tool_v1.zip [16:25:58] <marktraceur> wmat: OK, that just says application/zip [16:26:26] <marktraceur> wmat: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php?title=Special%3AMIMESearch&mime=application%2Fzip [16:26:44] <marktraceur> Over 500 results :) [16:26:51] <wmat> beautiful! [16:27:00] <wmat> marktraceur: thanks! [16:27:17] <marktraceur> Yup! [16:27:30] <marktraceur> And yeah, that's the canonical MIME type, dunno what crappy source I used to get the other one [16:30:20] <greg-g> probably Wikipedia [16:34:58] <marktraceur> greg-g: WP has it right! [16:37:19] <^d> I need to finish my metadata patch so you can search by it. [16:37:57] <marktraceur> Yesplz [16:38:13] <marktraceur> Or we can just wait for wikidata on commons :) [16:49:24] <Automatik> someone to help me? [16:51:11] <greg-g> Automatik: what's the problem? I probably can't help, but someone else might who sees your question (once you ask it) [16:51:29] <Automatik> (18:15:52) Automatik: hi. Could someone tell me an example of mw.Title.exists() which works? I didn't find [16:52:43] <Automatik> more than 1 hour and I didn't found a simple way to know if a page exists [16:56:55] <marktraceur> Ah [16:57:05] <marktraceur> Automatik: Yeah, that's not easy on the client right now [16:57:12] <marktraceur> Automatik: Can I ask what you're trying to accomplish? :) [16:57:39] <marktraceur> Sorry I missed your message above [16:57:47] <Automatik> it's not for me, but just check if a page exist in order to put with a script some delete template [16:58:01] <marktraceur> Hmm [16:58:41] <marktraceur> Automatik: In what context are you determining page existence? I mean, do you get a list of articles from a page's links? From an API call? Or are you just fetching the contents of a form field and trying to delete that? [17:00:17] <Automatik> Actually I'm on a page called 'Talk:Example/Delete' and I want to know if 'Example' still exists or not [17:02:52] <marktraceur> Ah. [17:03:01] <marktraceur> Automatik: I think you can cheat a bit here [17:03:10] <Automatik> yeah? [17:03:36] <marktraceur> Oh...wait. [17:03:44] <marktraceur> If it's a subpage...maybe not [17:04:04] <marktraceur> Shoot. [17:04:29] <marktraceur> Automatik: I was about to say you could check whether the "Page" tab link had the redlink class on it [17:04:46] <marktraceur> But that would tell you that [[Example/Delete]] existed or not, which isn't helpful [17:05:08] <Automatik> ah ok good idea, I think there is a link on the page for 'Example' anyway [17:05:16] <marktraceur> That would work then [17:05:18] <Automatik> so, I'll try it [17:05:36] <marktraceur> Not sure if that's a foolproof idea, but it would work [17:05:44] <Automatik> yes [17:05:45] <marktraceur> Your fallback is to ask the API about existence, I guess [17:08:45] <Automatik> I'm not sure to understand what you're saying [17:10:08] <marktraceur> Automatik: The other choice you have is to call the MediaWiki API to ask whether the page exists [17:10:17] <Automatik> yes [17:11:44] <marktraceur> Automatik: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Blah|aheountheothaoeu&format=json is probably what you want [17:12:05] <marktraceur> action=query&prop=info&titles=Whatever [17:12:11] <Automatik> yes i'm trying it [17:27:58] <milimetric> anyone have success accessing mediawiki content from JS with CORS? [17:28:09] <milimetric> something like this isn't working: [17:28:10] <milimetric> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&format=json&titles=Dashboard:test&origin=http://localhost:5000 [17:38:20] <Nikerabbit> milimetric: localhost isn't whitelisted on wikimedia sites [17:39:43] <milimetric> Nikerabbit: thanks! (sucks :)) [18:01:36] <fhocutt> hello YuviPanda|zzz! [18:36:53] <Automatik> marktraceur: thank you for your help. It seems odd that mw object does not provide an exists() function client-side, but now I wrote one that seems to work http://jsfiddle.net/qb5Ay/ [19:42:09] <tdannecy> I'm looking through the Audio player extension category/page and I've tried several of these extensions already. In your opinion, what is the best solution for embedding a player on a Mediawiki page? I need to play mp3's and flacs. [20:01:22] <Guest54557> is it possible to hide user talk from non registered users ? (also looking into the same for recent changes ) [20:01:36] <marktraceur> Guest54557: Hide or disable? [20:01:39] <Guest54557> well not just hide but to prevent any access [20:01:41] <marktraceur> Ah. [20:01:46] <Guest54557> disable is better [20:01:58] <marktraceur> Guest54557: Probably, but you might need to write code for it... [20:02:07] * marktraceur is feeling less helpful than usual right now though [20:25:30] <QuasAtWork> is there a means to control the type of icon that appears next to particular external links based on their protocol? [20:28:03] <tdannecy> QuasAtWork: I'd check out this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MIME_type_detection [20:29:04] <QuasAtWork> this is related to the protocol, not the file type [20:29:13] <QuasAtWork> basically my issue is with https links. [20:29:28] <QuasAtWork> they display a lock, and to me a lock doesn't indicate security but a restriction [20:31:43] <QuasAtWork> like, something you'd need a password to access. [20:31:55] <csteipp> QuasAtWork: Those were removed in 1.24, you could probably find the commit that did the change. [20:32:02] <QuasAtWork> ah, wasn't aware. [20:32:07] <QuasAtWork> we're presently on 1.22.5 [20:32:27] <QuasAtWork> were going to upgrade last weekend but plans fell through [20:33:15] <csteipp> Actually, 1.23 should have them removed also... It was a while back when those came out. [22:25:32] <sumanah> hey James_F [22:28:48] <James_F> Hey sumanah. How can I help? [22:31:18] * fhocutt waves to sumanah [22:32:22] <sumanah> Hi fhocutt & James_F [22:32:40] <fhocutt> how are you doing? [22:33:03] <sumanah> fhocutt: odd but will be ok. You? [22:33:17] <fhocutt> pretty well! [22:33:51] <sumanah> James_F: thank you for that chat we had in January, it helped me a lot. [22:33:55] <sumanah> (I think it was January) [22:34:08] <fhocutt> took a look at JWBF with Nik this afternoon, and am working on the Ruby eval [22:34:15] <James_F> sumanah: Happy to help! [22:35:35] <sumanah> hey Krenair [22:35:40] <Krenair> oh, hey [22:35:52] <Krenair> (Sorry, FreeNode just decided that my VPS had too many connections open to it) [22:36:02] <Krenair> Or rather, dickson did, probably >_> [22:36:12] <sumanah> Krenair: oh no worries; I myself shouldn't even be here today, I am not feeling 100% [22:36:43] <Krenair> pm [22:37:20] <sumanah> Sure [22:37:31] <sumanah> fhocutt: how was it getting back into Java? [22:41:23] <fhocutt> wordy. [22:41:34] <fhocutt> very glad to be talking with an experienced Java dev [22:48:34] <sumana-h> fhocutt: there's a joke that the problem with code in Java isn't the length, it's the width ..... and that the reason we call the IDE Eclipse is that a Java file is so big it blocks out the sun [22:48:47] <fhocutt> yep! [22:49:26] <fhocutt> so I need to get Eclipse set up and do some digging, but Nik said that JWBF generally looked like it was done by someone who knew what they were doing and wanted to do things pretty much right [22:49:37] <fhocutt> today I am doing Ruby things though [22:49:54] <fhocutt> and possibly collecting my giant pile of Ruby resources into a blogpost so I can clear out my tabs [22:56:05] <sumanah_> fhocutt: a pile of rubies? [22:56:12] <sumanah_> watch out - you may be a dragon [22:56:19] <sumanah_> rarrrrrrr [22:56:26] * fhocutt grins [22:56:29] <sumanah_> I am glad that JWBF looks reasonable! I am less glad that the wifi here is terrible. am about to go [22:56:35] <fhocutt> ok! [22:56:38] <fhocutt> feel better soon [22:58:45] <sumanah_> Thanks! [23:55:53] <parent5446> Krenair [23:56:10] <parent5446> You there? [23:56:44] <Krenair> Hey parent5446 [23:56:48] <Krenair> Can we speak in PM please? [23:56:52] <parent5446> Yes