[00:13:15] <pwca>	 what is $wgScriptPath?
[00:13:34] <LilMissRarity>	 php thing
[00:14:17] <pwca>	 what should it be set to?
[00:14:19] <MatmaRex>	 !wg ScriptPath
[00:14:19] <wm-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgScriptPath
[00:14:27] <pwca>	 yes, I saw that.
[00:14:34] <pwca>	 "The base URL path (in relation to DOCUMENT_ROOT)."
[00:14:49] <pwca>	 does that mean the folder where my MediaWiki installation sits in?
[00:15:10] <pwca>	 my $wgScriptPath is empty for some reason.
[00:15:14] <MatmaRex>	 that is indeed a pretty poor explanation
[00:15:25] <MatmaRex>	 yes, it's the path related to your domain
[00:15:46] <MatmaRex>	 e.g. for a wiki on http://example.com/wiki/index.php, wgScriptPath should be "/wiki"
[00:16:29] <pwca>	 ah, I see. so if I have http://example.com/index.php then it should be empty.
[00:16:42] <legoktm>	 no it should be "/"
[00:16:49] <pwca>	 oh.
[00:17:01] <legoktm>	 (I think...?)
[00:17:04] <legoktm>	 I might be wrong.
[00:17:41] <legoktm>	 pwca: ignore me, it should be empty
[00:17:52] <pwca>	 ok, it messed things up so that's what I figured. :)
[00:18:05] <pwca>	 I am troubleshooting my Math extension. getting Failed to parse (unknown error):
[00:18:21] <pwca>	 checking paths to everything to see if there's some wrong path somewhere.
[00:25:46] <pwca>	 privileges seem in place, everything seems to link to the right directories, I have no idea what is causing this.
[00:26:25] <pwca>	 anyone have any suggestions?
[04:47:37] <legoktm>	 !debug
[04:47:38] <wm-bot>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging
[05:13:47] <sasan>	 hi, could sb, see my wiki
[05:13:57] <sasan>	 parswiki.servehttp.com
[05:14:15] <sasan>	 when the wiki open, an xampp icon was shown
[05:14:29] <sasan>	 how can i change it to my desired icon?
[05:59:14] <bawolff>	 !wg Favicon  | sasan
[05:59:14] <wm-bot>	 sasan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFavicon
[05:59:27] <bawolff>	 Hmm, guess he's gone
[06:52:45] <sasan>	 hi, assume i write a sentence, i want to align in left
[06:52:49] <sasan>	 what shoudl i do?
[09:47:04] <gute>	 Hi guys. I'm almost ready to give up on a problem. The thing is that I would like to have SMW form that list relevant categories in a list tree, that is in "Menuselect" from "Semantic Forms Input". Why oh why does this not work?: {{#ask: [[Category:Administration]] [[Subcategory of::+]]| format=tree| parent=Subcategory of}}
[10:02:13] <gute>	 Does anyone have an idea?
[10:03:24] <Vulpix>	 gute: you may have more luck asking in #semantic-mediawiki 
[10:10:17] <gute>	 ok. thanks. Will do.
[10:22:32] <Guest43774>	 Hi, using only data dumps, how can I get from image name (e.x.: AFRAA_logo) to thumburl (e.x. 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/AFRAA_logo.png')
[10:24:25] <Guest43774>	 in other words I want to reproduce the result of this API call: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=url&iiurlwidth=320&format=xml&titles=Image:blahblah
[10:34:02] <Vulpix>	 Guest43774: the /5/55/ part of the URL path are the first and 2 first characters respectively of the md5 sum of the filename
[10:34:45] <Vulpix>	 hex_md5('AFRAA_logo.png') > 55af99aae36542015595215799f865d4
[10:37:00] <Vulpix>	 MediaWiki uses the md5() function for that
[10:37:26] <Guest43774>	 thanks Vulpix. What about /commons/ or /en/ part of the url?
[10:37:58] <Guest43774>	 or even /thumb/ which sometimes is present and sometimes not
[10:38:45] <Vulpix>	  /thumb/ is only present when the file is used as a thumbnail (reduced size, or PNG rasterization of a SVG file, PDF, TIFF, etc)
[10:39:19] <Vulpix>	 about commons or en, that would depend on the filename hosted on commons or directly on wikipedia
[10:39:32] <Vulpix>	 that probably can't be guessed by just looking at the dumps
[10:40:21] <Vulpix>	 maybe checking if the file is already on the dump or not
[10:40:47] <Guest43774>	 I take it /thumb/ is not always present. given this example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/A_Modest_Proposal_1729_Cover.jpg does not exist but this does: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/A_Modest_Proposal_1729_Cover.jpg
[10:42:11] <Vulpix>	 well, the first URL is not a valid one, since /thumb/ urls have the filename replicated a second time, with a thumb size on it
[10:42:25] <Vulpix>	 like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/A_Modest_Proposal_1729_Cover.jpg/180px-A_Modest_Proposal_1729_Cover.jpg
[10:43:05] <Guest43774>	 I see...
[10:43:09] <Guest43774>	 thank you again
[10:43:14] <Vulpix>	 yw :)
[10:44:43] <Guest43774>	 is there any clue in images table (http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/enwiki-latest-image.sql.gz) to know if image is en or common?
[10:49:30] <Vulpix>	 well, that dump seems to be from wikipedia, so it should indicate if it's in wikipedia. If you don't find it there, use the commons URL
[10:50:08] <Guest43774>	 excellent! thank you for your time.
[12:55:21] <Guest53406>	 i keep getting this error: FileCacheBase.php on line 171 http://dpaste.com/1075K4H  and have no idea why or how . any input ?
[12:58:25] <Vulpix>	 Guest53406: check permissions on /home/path/to/user.html so your webserver has access to write on that path
[13:02:20] <Guest53406>	 Vulpix, fixed :) 
[13:45:47] <aleray>	 hi, can I add css classes to my header in mediawiki?
[13:45:54] <aleray>	 my headers
[13:47:23] <Reedy>	 what do you mean?
[13:47:48] <aleray>	 Reedy: I have this syntax for instance "== my header =="
[13:48:13] <aleray>	 I'd like to obtain something along "<h2 class="myclass">my header</h2>"
[13:48:59] <Vulpix>	 why do you need to add a custom class?
[13:49:58] <Vulpix>	 of course, you can use the <h2 class="myclass">my header</h2> syntax, but I guess you want this for every header?
[13:50:46] <aleray>	 Vulpix, because I'm scrapping the content to generate a webpage, and I'd like to apply a special treatment to some headers
[13:51:25] <Vulpix>	 those headers already have a class name. Isn't that sufficient?
[13:52:34] <aleray>	 Vulpix, let me check
[13:53:22] <Vulpix>	 they should have class="mw-headline"
[13:54:54] <wmat>	 just noticed Script Errors on MW extension page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikilog
[13:56:10] <Reedy>	 What script errors?
[13:56:20] <Vulpix>	 I don't see any script error on that page even after purging
[14:02:22] * wmat looks again
[14:02:48] <wmat>	 heh, weird, they're gone
[14:04:01] <Vogone>	 purge ftw
[14:29:25] <zocky>	 what's the maintenance script for reseting a password?
[14:30:39] <Reedy>	 createAndPromote.php
[14:30:52] <zocky>	 isn't it changePassword.php?
[14:31:05] <zocky>	 or is my mw really old?
[14:31:05] <Reedy>	 There's no changePassword.php
[14:31:09] <Reedy>	 Presumably
[14:33:13] <MatmaRex>	 Reedy: there is :P
[14:33:27] <Reedy>	 uh
[14:33:34] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ChangePassword.php
[14:33:37] <Reedy>	 wth did I type before then
[14:34:17] <MatmaRex>	 perhaps there should be one for resetting a password, too…
[14:35:07] <Reedy>	 You mean to trigger a reset email?
[14:42:18] <barooney>	 Dacry hi there :P
[17:00:07] <Vulpix>	 is anybody here with delete right on mediawiki.org willing to delete the duplicate posts here? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Requesting_visitor_stats_for_help_pages_45822
[17:00:45] <Vulpix>	 Apparently Mahitgar was so impatient while submitting the message and hit the submit button several times :P
[17:01:05] <Vulpix>	 that's, on the other hand, a LQT bug, ofc
[17:04:33] <sumanah>	 @seen fhocutt
[17:04:33] <wm-bot>	 sumanah: Last time I saw fhocutt they were quitting the network with reason: Ping timeout: 272 seconds N/A at 7/23/2014 10:30:33 AM (6h33m59s ago)
[17:12:14] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: hi
[17:12:20] <fhocutt>	 hi! 
[17:12:20] <sumanah>	 I don't know WHAT is up with vidchat :/
[17:12:30] <sumanah>	 I doubt restarting again on my end will help again :/
[17:12:33] <fhocutt>	 me neither :P
[17:12:33] <sumanah>	 shall we PM instead?
[17:12:42] <fhocutt>	 I can try restarting firefox too
[17:12:47] <pwca>	 I want to install a new skin to my MediaWiki. I tried unzipping it, putting it in the skins folder and adding require_once "$IP/skins/skinname/Skin.php";
[17:12:54] <pwca>	 this didn't work anyone know why?
[17:13:02] <pwca>	 judging by Special:Version it wasn't installed at all.
[17:13:04] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: ok, lemme know when you have
[17:34:24] <sumanah>	 hey Mithrandir - hope you're doing well!
[17:59:36] <sumanah>	 hi fhocutt 
[17:59:54] <valhallasw`cloud>	 hey sumanah & fhocutt!
[18:00:08] <sumanah>	 hi valhallasw`cloud ! Where do your travels take you today?
[18:00:24] * fhocutt waves
[18:00:26] <sumanah>	 valhallasw`cloud: at this moment I am looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code/Evaluations/MediaWiki-Gateway
[18:00:48] <valhallasw`cloud>	 sumanah: this week I'm in Easton, MA for a conference (stonehill college campus)
[18:01:37] <valhallasw`cloud>	 I'm leaving for new york on friday
[18:01:57] <sumanah>	 :)
[18:02:18] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: "A novice would have difficulty getting started with the RubyDoc." because it is long and overwhelming and hard to get a hold in?
[18:02:47] <fhocutt>	 pretty much, yeah
[18:02:48] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: re Demonstrates Edits: "There are code samples to demonstrate the use of image_info, langlinks, protect, and upload." - are there missing samples?
[18:02:56] <fhocutt>	 those are the only samples
[18:03:10] <fhocutt>	 besides the intro script, which shows login and edits
[18:03:19] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: sorry for being cryptic - which samples are missing?
[18:04:34] <fhocutt>	 could use some query samples, and it would be great if more of the methods had sample code in the docs, but that doesn't seem reasonable to require
[18:05:13] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: I guess you could find a way to say that in the nice-to-have TODO; I skimmed quickly and didn't see it
[18:05:18] <sumanah>	 "Add more code samples to the documentation, covering queries as well as edits so that new users have examples to learn from and modify"
[18:05:20] <sumanah>	 nm
[18:05:40] <sumanah>	 I guess saying specifically which methods you think ought to be added makes it easier to fulfill that suggestion
[18:06:17] <sumanah>	 yay user agent clarity :)
[18:06:26] <sumanah>	 (as in, yay that you suggest it)
[18:07:34] <sumanah>	 "Watch mediawiki-api-announce-l for breaking changes that impact the library and make necessary updates within a few weeks" great idea fhocutt 
[18:07:53] <sumanah>	 overall - yay fhocutt! a fine eval as usual!
[18:08:00] <pwca>	 I want to install a skin.
[18:08:12] <fhocutt>	 thanks sumanah! 
[18:08:20] <pwca>	 but when I unzip the folder into the skin folder and add the require_once of the .php in the skin folder nothing happens.
[18:08:27] <fhocutt>	 I will make the changes and submit issues
[18:08:58] <sumanah>	 rock fhocutt 
[18:09:05] <Vulpix>	 pwca: does the skin have install instructions or something?
[18:09:06] <sumanah>	 and ON TO JAVA
[18:09:14] <pwca>	 Vulpix: would that it had.
[18:09:26] <pwca>	 sadly, it has very little documentation.
[18:09:36] <pwca>	 isn't there some API concerning skins?
[18:09:42] <sumanah>	 MatmaRex: ^
[18:09:55] * sumanah defers to skins experts, flees to other things
[18:10:05] <pwca>	 skins expats.
[18:10:06] <MatmaRex>	 hum?
[18:10:24] <MatmaRex>	 what skin?
[18:10:29] <pwca>	 I'm trying to install this skin, MatmaRex: https://github.com/seongjaelee/Minit
[18:10:32] <Vulpix>	 skins logic seems to have changed in current master. Not sure if 1.23 was affected, though
[18:10:38] <pwca>	 it's quite old, I hope that doesn't matter.
[18:11:23] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: that skin does seem to do a few things in non-standard ways :/
[18:11:32] <pwca>	 yes, it appears so.
[18:11:46] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: you should probably ask the developer about install instructions?
[18:11:49] <Vulpix>	 I guess you need to add the skin name to the list of available skins so MediaWiki is aware of it
[18:12:01] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: or ask them to do things in the recommended way :) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning
[18:12:01] <pwca>	 what are the usual installation instructions?
[18:12:07] <Vulpix>	 it doesn't seem to do that by itself
[18:12:23] <pwca>	 Vulpix: hm.
[18:12:35] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: the usual is, put the skin folder as a subdirectory in skins/, then require_once("$IP/skins/SkinName/SkinName.php") in LocalSettings
[18:12:55] <pwca>	 yeah, that's the thing I tried.
[18:13:05] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: mediawiki used to have a magical skin autodiscovery mechanism for some time, too, maybe that depends on it?
[18:13:23] <pwca>	 aha. that might be.
[18:13:25] <MatmaRex>	 it should still work in 1.23, though. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_autodiscovery
[18:14:29] <pwca>	 are changes to LocalHost.php seen instantly?
[18:14:46] <Reedy>	 What's LocalHost.php?
[18:14:56] <pwca>	 err, LocalSettings.php.
[18:15:01] <pwca>	 and do you usually have to do some compiling to install skins?
[18:15:08] <Reedy>	 compiling?
[18:15:13] <pwca>	 yes.
[18:15:14] <Reedy>	 You don't compile php
[18:15:22] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: that skin does actually look like it relies on the autodiscovery mechanism
[18:15:39] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: maybe it's working already, just not enabled by default? checkj your preferences and see if you can choose it there
[18:15:43] <pwca>	 do you need to restart installation of the MediaWiki?
[18:15:48] <pwca>	 it's not there, MatmaRex.
[18:15:57] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: no, changes should be immediate
[18:16:40] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: have you extracted the files directory into skins/, or as a subdirectory?
[18:16:56] <pwca>	 as a subdirectory.
[18:16:57] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: you should probably extract them directly there, this is very stupid, but old skins actually require that :/
[18:17:07] <pwca>	 oh.
[18:17:10] <pwca>	 :)
[18:17:13] <pwca>	 thanks.
[18:17:27] <pwca>	 there's very little chance I would find these things out on my own.
[18:17:27] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: point the skin author towards https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_autodiscovery , it has a handy migration guide :)
[18:20:02] <pwca>	 I am getting an error message right on top of my MediaWiki now, MatmaRex, but it seems to have worked.
[18:20:14] <pwca>	 it warns me autodiscovery will be removed in 1.25.
[18:20:32] <MatmaRex>	 yes
[18:20:36] <MatmaRex>	 it's deprecated
[18:20:39] <MatmaRex>	 see that manual page ^
[18:20:53] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: it's a warning, you can probably disable it somehow
[18:21:04] <MatmaRex>	 or you can just fix the skin, it's simple, and that manual page has a guide
[18:21:24] <MatmaRex>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_autodiscovery
[18:21:26] <pwca>	 ok, that sounds like the best thing to do.
[18:21:42] <pwca>	 thanks a lot.
[18:22:01] <MatmaRex>	 good luck
[18:22:11] <MatmaRex>	 poke me if that page is unclear, i wrote most of it :)
[18:29:41] <pwca>	 MatmaRex: it was very clear. looks like everything works fine now.
[18:29:46] <pwca>	 thanks again.
[18:31:05] <MatmaRex>	 :D
[18:31:18] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: can you put the updated code up somewhere?
[18:31:19] <pwca>	 no, wait. I broke it.
[18:31:39] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: i'd put it in the "Examples" section on that page, if you don't mind :)
[18:31:47] <pwca>	 sure.
[18:59:01] <pwca>	 MatmaRex: now I get Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/public_html/skins/Minit.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /public_html/includes/Skin.php on line 188
[18:59:05] <pwca>	 whatever I do. :S
[18:59:36] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: perhaps you just need to update the path? you probably moved the Minit.php file somewhere else
[19:00:02] <MatmaRex>	 isn't it skins/Minit/Minit.php now?
[19:00:25] <pwca>	 it is correct in LocalSettings.php. should I change it somewhere else too?
[19:00:57] <MatmaRex>	 probably not
[19:01:13] <MatmaRex>	 hmm
[19:02:09] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: is the SkinMinit class still defined in Minit.php?
[19:02:19] <pwca>	 yep.
[19:02:34] <MatmaRex>	 and you're definitely requiring that file in LocalSettings?
[19:03:23] <MatmaRex>	 hmmm. maybe you forgot to add the $wgValidSkinNames line? (it should be mentioned on the manual page)
[19:03:49] <pwca>	 I had that.
[19:04:03] <pwca>	 think I messed up some of the names.
[19:04:15] <pwca>	 ok, now it's "working." I can use the theme, it's just broken.
[19:04:30] <pwca>	 that's better at least.
[19:04:48] <pwca>	 seems like some of the paths in the Minit.php are not correct.
[19:05:07] <MatmaRex>	 yeah
[19:05:10] <MatmaRex>	 things like $out->addStyle( 'minit/main.css', 'screen' );
[19:05:34] <pwca>	 what should that be?
[19:05:44] <MatmaRex>	 $this->stylename = 'minit'; too (should probably be Minit now) (although this one probably doesn't matter in practice)
[19:05:59] <MatmaRex>	 assuming you renamed the 'minit' direcotry to 'Minit', $out->addStyle( 'Minit/main.css', 'screen' );
[19:06:04] <MatmaRex>	 probably :)
[19:06:15] <pwca>	 ok, so those are directories relative to skins?
[19:06:33] <MatmaRex>	 yes
[19:07:13] <pwca>	 are the calls to skins.minit ok?
[19:09:19] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: it seems that they're not actually doing anything
[19:09:26] <pwca>	 :)
[19:09:39] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: normally this would load skin's styles, if they were defined as a ResourceLoader module
[19:09:50] <MatmaRex>	 but this skin uses addStyle() for that (eww)
[19:16:01] <pwca>	 ah, yes. I noticed my mistake. (I didn't put all files into one folder)
[19:20:49] <MatmaRex>	 pwca: it is possible (and recommended) to put things in further subfolders, as long as it's all inside the main skin folder (skins/Minit/ in this case)
[19:22:20] <pwca>	 hm, I see.
[19:22:46] <pwca>	 is there any way I can change a user's default skin through files?
[19:23:26] <pwca>	 wow. this skin is going to need some tweaking. :)
[19:25:51] <Vulpix>	 pwca: you could use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CleanupPreferences.php although it requires that the skin preference should be in  $wgHiddenPrefs
[19:26:19] <Vulpix>	 that script may be improved to allow specify a list of preferences to clear on input, though
[19:27:32] <MatmaRex>	 hmm, i think there was another maint. script
[19:27:52] <MatmaRex>	 if you want to change the default skin, just set $wgDefaultSkin to the appropriate value
[19:28:09] <MatmaRex>	 ($wgDefaultSkin = 'minit'; probably)
[19:28:52] <MatmaRex>	 and there's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:UserOptions.php
[19:30:20] <pwca>	 hm.
[20:29:26] <sumanah>	 fhocutt: I have 90 min till my next mtg in case you want to pair on anything
[21:55:24] <sumanah>	 talking about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Composer_managed_libraries_for_use_on_WMF_cluster in #wikimedia-office in 5 min
[22:03:21] <sumanah>	 talking about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Composer_managed_libraries_for_use_on_WMF_cluster in #wikimedia-office now
[22:49:03] <Nemo_bis>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikia_code ...
[22:50:09] <ori>	 Nemo_bis: don't hold your breath
[22:50:16] <Reedy>	 haha
[22:50:21] <Reedy>	 It's just a bit out of date
[22:50:25] <Reedy>	 there was some upstreaming
[22:55:08] <Nemo_bis>	 Reedy: ah, so those were better times than now :P
[23:54:34] <danmichaelo>	 Could someone have a look on my edit request: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-contribsrange.js ? (didn't find any edit request template on mediawiki.org)
[23:55:06] <Krenair>	 danmichaelo, most active users are probably admins :)
[23:58:54] <Krenair>	 danmichaelo, hmm... in init() I imagine var show should be !!$('#contentSub, #topbar').length;