[00:06:49] kxra: nod [00:06:56] kxra: fhocutt I have to head off. Night all [00:07:12] night, sumanah [00:07:15] :) [00:07:35] fhocutt: how's the crazy west coast going? [00:10:12] Mithrandir, not too bad! [00:10:53] this week is a bit of fall-ish weather after a couple of weeks of heat [00:12:32] given the oppressive heat we've had here, that sounds pleasant [00:13:11] it is. About 65-70 F, humid, cloudy, raining a bit. [00:13:34] I'll raise you 90+F [00:14:01] luckily not _too_ humid, but well, hot. No AC, since, well, Oslo doesn't do AC [00:14:19] Scandinavia is broken currently it seems [00:14:26] pretty much [00:14:34] not too bad right now, at 02:14 [00:14:47] http://www.reddit.com/r/Norway/comments/2bhi0x/norway_has_forgotten_how_to_norway_yrno/ [00:14:49] kinda nice outside.. In a t-shirt and shorts. [00:18:53] Mithrandir, whoof [00:19:06] yeah, Seattle doesn't really do AC either, there's just no point most of the time [00:19:47] our dogs aren't too happy [00:19:50] just too hot for them [02:31:06] Hello....I am running linux mint and have followed the installation guide. It has gotten to the part where it downloads LocalSettings.php however even after refreshing the browser it keeps wanting to download the file again. I can't get it to open the main wiki page. Can anyone offer a suggestion on how to correct this? [02:33:19] Are you saving LocalSettings.php to the MW directory? [02:33:38] and going to the base wiki URL? [02:34:36] Yes...I made sure I put it in /usr/share/mediawiki as advised.... [02:35:10] I'm using the link on the last setup page to go to the wiki? [02:35:48] I double checked phpmyadmin to insure the script had created all the database tables and that looks fine [02:37:58] This is the path in the browser: http://localhost/mediawiki/index.php [02:46:07] aw, 'es gone [04:58:09] Hello all! Is it possible in FlaggedRevs extension to initial flag all pages as stable? [05:50:02] akam-it: reviewAllPages.php, presumably [06:54:23] Nemo_bis, thank you! [09:03:34] question: where in MediaWiki's db is the list of a wiki's namespaces stored? [09:25:16] Zaister: nowhere. it's only in the configuration. [09:26:05] Zaister: this may change in the future, but don't hold your breath... https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Associated_namespaces [09:28:30] ah thanks [09:28:47] i was wondering, because the db has ids [09:29:48] thanks that link helps [09:30:13] Can I embed svg images from the external sites? [09:43:39] natbrown: i don't think there is a good way to do that, no. [09:44:11] except for wikimedia commons. using the instantcommons feature, you can embed any media file on commons as if it was uploaded to your wiki. [09:46:41] DanielK_WMDE_:Thanks! :( The images on commons don't scale very well on mobiles :( I am thinking how to make the images scale better... http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Symbols [10:41:22] If there is anyone in here that's good with media wiki web designing could you PM me :) [10:42:46] I'm trying to work out how to change the background colour of the wiki, I'm jus using a preset skin right now. (common) [10:52:03] Offering some money for a good mediawiki web designer [11:23:16] hello, i need help on my wiki. i want to upload a picture then this come: Warning The file / tmp/phppf26kK could not be saved under mwstore :/ / local-backend/local-public/3/3f/Symbiont_2.jpg. (this is the english translation because my wiki is in german) [11:30:52] Isaac_Porter: it's probably a problem with file permissions [11:31:15] we have a blurb about that somewhere... [11:31:17] !permissions [11:31:17] For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [11:31:22] no, not that one [11:31:35] !filepermissions [11:31:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Check_directory_security [11:31:42] Isaac_Porter: --^ [12:50:23] Hmm, who maintains ContactPage these days? [12:51:13] Not sure anyone did [12:51:25] I did a fairly big rewrite of it "recently" [12:52:33] Hmm, ok... how difficult is it going to be to reimplement ConfirmEdit support to the rewritten version? [12:52:59] Did it have it before? [12:53:13] Yes [12:53:27] guess the diff where I removed it needs digging out [12:53:47] Bug report... https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66811 [12:55:39] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-ContactPage/commit/a92f78ebcd60d2b9f97f145aac268f6f9f246a4f [12:58:18] i'm building a desktop client for editing mediawiki pages, I need to access the database instead of going through the mw api (for speed), where can I get started with dissecting the queries I need? [12:59:28] For speed? [12:59:52] Using the API you can edit Wikipedia at 30 epm plus [13:01:09] I also highly wouldn't reccomend editing the database directly for editing [13:01:26] There's quite a lot of intricacies that the code deals with [13:05:21] some of the functionality i'm implementing lags pretty badly with the api [13:05:45] although, honestly, I should probably try to solve it at the client side first [13:06:23] this isn't for wikipedia either, this is for an internally maintained wiki [13:07:24] I'm just saying the API "shouldn't" be slow... [13:07:38] Have you got caching setup on your wiki? [13:07:49] I don't believe so [13:07:51] If it was for wikipedia, you wouldn't get direct DB access anyway ;) [13:08:00] !performance [13:08:00] [13:08:02] haha [13:08:05] true :D [13:08:41] simple things like installing APC if it's not already installed can make a big big difference [13:08:53] but also setting up some object cache etc too can really help [13:09:02] alright [13:09:05] i'll start with that [13:09:10] see where I can get [13:09:48] ty Reedy :D [13:10:11] Pie_Mage: And of course, using newer versions of MW is reccommended too :p [13:10:29] Reedy: So it looks like you removed two or three functions that dealt with the captchas... [13:10:41] Lcawte: Indeed [13:10:43] The code was a mess [13:10:45] That didn't help [13:12:02] is there much of an improvement with using opcode cache? [13:12:14] yeah [13:12:27] (i've not played around with it at all yet, so pardon my ignorance) [13:12:55] you should be able to install apc and restart your webserver [13:13:06] and after a couple of hits things should get a lot faster [13:15:26] excellent :D [13:15:40] what os are you runnig it on? [13:21:49] Hey. There are a german help channel for mediawiki somewhere? [13:22:24] Reedy: debian wheezy [13:23:14] Pie_Mage: Should just need apt-get install php-apc and restart your webserver then... [13:23:55] cool [13:24:17] i'll give it a shot when I get home tonight [13:27:02] Maybe someone could help me to add the number of pages of a subcategory in the list of the supercategory? I thought this is defaulty active. Do I have to change the $wgCategoryTreeDefaultMode for this? [13:50:08] is there a way to add a default edit link to each article page? [13:50:41] What do you mean by default? [13:51:14] I want a way to edit pages on the mobile version, like the [edit] option that shows up if you specify a header with '===' [13:51:26] i want to add that to every page [14:13:06] Hi, I have a question for developers. How can I edit a comment I submitted for a patch on gerrit? I cannot find an 'edit' button in the web page. [14:13:17] You can't [14:15:13] Oh okay, I should triple check before submitting then :) [15:02:38] Hi there, I'm experimenting a little bit with user permissions. To include templates into a wiki page does one only need read-access to the template namespace or am I missing something. [15:04:18] Kaizen1: You shouldn't need to have read access, just edit access on whatever namespace you're editing [15:08:18] Yes, but if i drop all access rights (enforcingly), then give myself read access templates and of course write to the current namespace, shouldn't I be able to include a Template like {{Template:CreateNewPage}} (The target is an inputbox) [15:10:34] On the edited page the result is only a link and in my template the inputbox is visible. [15:11:23] Is the inclusion of at template internaly done by a bot? [15:11:29] -t [15:12:01] How do I enable Google friendly URLS on media wiki [15:12:16] Kaizen1: You should just do {{CreateNewPage}}, without Template: [15:12:38] !shorturl | XiRoN [15:12:38] XiRoN: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [15:13:45] Well, I'am doing something like this {{Template:CreateNewPage_Protected|Namespace1|Description|Template:Namespace1}} [15:14:23] Just tried to post the essentials. ;-) [15:14:43] anyone know how to edit the toolbox for the mobile version? [15:33:33] user63: That's not your name, silly. [15:33:43] Kaizen1: I'm saying Template: isn't needed. [15:33:59] le4fy: You might try asking #wikimedia-mobile [15:34:17] I don't know what awful, terrible things they do to the interface [15:34:24] why is wm-bot named user63 [15:34:28] XiRoN: Was that link helpful? [15:34:33] Krenair: Hell if I know [15:39:40] @marktraceur: Yeah, thanks for the Tip. :-) [15:41:14] marktraceur: thanks [15:41:42] My template is still not transcluding, only a link to the template is visible. It doesn't seem to be a permission problem ... [15:41:46] Problem getting to mediawiki home page after install. I have completed the install. Mediawiki keeps prompting me to download the LocalSettings.php which has already been done. I tried konqueror after firefox wasn't letting me to the root after install by clicking the go to wiki link. It then said that a LocalSettings.php existed and to get a code which I did. This still results in it not letting me get to the home(root) page? [15:42:28] This is in linux mint with all updates done prior to setting up mediawiki [15:43:19] Kaizen1: Can you link us to the page you're talking about, maybe? [15:43:56] MelRay: Where is the LocalSettings file, and what are its permissions? [15:44:39] marktraceur: /usr/share/mediawiki 755 [15:44:46] Hm. [15:44:56] MelRay: Are you using a package to install MediaWiki? [15:45:18] yes, just a second, I' will move it to an accessible space [15:45:18] marktraceur: I grabbed it with apt-get [15:45:23] Eugh... [15:45:47] MelRay: The Debian package is notoriously difficult to work with; at the very least I can't be sure of what's causing the problem [15:45:55] I'd suggest getting it from us directly [15:45:56] !download [15:45:56] The latest stable release of MediaWiki can be downloaded from . Files are supplied in a .tar.gz archive. MediaWiki can also be obtained direct from our Git repository . [15:46:35] marktraceur: Ok should a standard uninstall of mediawiki be sufficient? [15:46:52] MelRay: To get rid of the current site, probably [15:47:28] marktraceur: Ok just wanted to try and make sure there aren't any extra processes to be completed. Thank you for your assistance [15:47:40] No problem [15:48:56] I'm having real issues with getting Short URLS working. I've changed the .htaccess and the config options in LocalSetting.php I have a feelin cloudflare might be doning something. Could anyone help me diagnose this? [15:49:09] * marktraceur frowns at cloudflare [15:49:22] XiRoN: Sure, can you point us at your site? [15:49:34] Yes, It's http://www.unturnedwiki.com/ [15:49:59] XiRoN: While I'm looking at it, I'd also appreciate if you could put relevant config files onto dpaste.de - be sure to remove any passwords or keys from them, though! [15:50:02] Currently it's 404'ing on Main_Page after being redirected from index.php by .htaccess [15:51:06] I can paste my .htaccess and LocalSettings.php [15:51:30] XiRoN: That would be best, yes [15:53:59] marktraceur: The LocalSettings.php https://dpaste.de/pNQx [15:55:05] marktraceur: The .htaccess https://dpaste.de/UfRX [15:56:20] Just an added note, the installation of the wiki is in the root directory, so http://www.unturnedwiki.com/index.php [15:56:41] https://intranet.ggc-muenchen.de/index.php?title=Problem [15:56:49] XiRoN: There's a problem with putting the pages directly in the root of the site - try putting them in /wiki instead [15:56:51] user: mediawiki [15:57:00] password: L3tmein [15:57:16] marktraceur: Is there not a way to overcome that problem easily? [15:57:31] Kaizen1: Your OCSP setup seems broken [15:57:50] XiRoN: Yeah, put the wiki pages in /wiki/ instead :) [15:58:17] marktraceur: I'm trying to be good with SEO not [15:58:26] Ooops. [15:58:32] Well [15:58:53] yeah i know, its an old certificate [15:59:03] I dunno, I've never done it that way XiRoN [15:59:13] Kaizen1: Like, I can't connect at all with my browser [15:59:14] lots of work to do^^ [15:59:17] Ok I'll try it your way marktraceur [15:59:50] Seems like your way or the highway marktraceur [16:00:03] XiRoN: Not necessarily, if you can figure it out then I welcome your way [16:00:08] * marktraceur looks at shorturl doc pages [16:00:25] I looked at those pages, they where no good at helping. [16:00:42] I mean sure if you're doing it your way :) [16:00:42] you can also try it over http://intranet.ggc-muenchen.de/index.php?title=Problem [16:01:01] XiRoN: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#URL_like_-_example.com.2FPage_title [16:01:09] It's not recommended for that reason [16:02:33] Kaizen1: OK, cool, but now I have a permission error [16:02:35] also, shows a permission error in the mw config [16:02:46] "this action is limited to members of .. (a bunch of user groups) [16:02:53] just login^^ [16:03:08] user: mediawiki [16:03:18] password: L3tmein [16:03:24] ^^ [16:04:02] ah, 2 logins. ye, then RecentChanges look normal [16:04:26] and "Problem" is a regular page [16:05:44] Kaizen1: I cannot get this site to work for me :P but maybe mutante can help [16:06:12] :'( [16:06:53] You tried your best. :-) [16:07:31] Thank's a lot. [16:08:45] @mutante: What do you think? Is it a permission problem? [16:10:44] Somehow mediawiki is not transcluding the template. [16:13:13] @marktraceur: Did you try it here: http://intranet.ggc-muenchen.de/index.php?title=Problem [16:13:44] Yeah, I still get a permission error just reading the page [16:13:51] there is a login button at the top/right [16:13:53] Because I registered an account and now cannot log out [16:14:07] sais 'anmelden' [16:14:15] or 'abmelden' [16:14:25] Ah, nevermind [16:14:39] Yeah, I see it. [16:14:53] Kaizen1: You still have Template: in front of it for some reason. [16:15:11] I didn't change it yet [16:15:16] You should. [16:15:43] done [16:15:54] ^^ [16:16:21] It worked once [16:16:39] could my problems have to do with an upgrade to 1.23 [16:17:28] Hm, maybe [16:17:48] Do you think, the permissions are ok? [16:18:12] I'm trying to narrow it down.^^ [16:18:12] Yeah, I can see the template and everything [16:18:35] Kaizen1: Do you know what the {{#tag}} thing comes from? [16:18:47] yes [16:18:57] just klick on the "pen" [16:18:57] An extension? [16:19:16] Also Kaizen1, remove Template: on http://intranet.ggc-muenchen.de/index.php?title=Vorlage:CreateNewPageVorstand&action=edit [16:19:37] ^^ [16:20:07] done^^ [16:21:47] OK, so that's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [16:21:53] The #tag comes from here require_once "$IP/extensions/InputBox/InputBox.php"; [16:22:12] you're to fast^^ [16:23:01] I can't imagine that's the problem [16:24:23] Kaizen1: It might be that you need to put Vorlage: before the template name; I'm not sure if redirects are working properly [16:25:25] changed [16:25:49] But no luck. [16:25:55] I have no idea what's going on... [16:28:02] thanks anyway, i'am trying something else, but i have to throw you out first^^ [16:28:13] sorry^^ [16:37:01] !bluespice [16:38:04] !bluespice is http://www.blue-spice.org/ - an enterprise MediaWiki distribution. Their software does not work with MediaWiki 1.23, so watch out! [16:38:05] Key was added [16:41:55] marktraceur: really? [16:42:02] Apparently. [16:42:04] wow [16:42:11] That was what caused the template to just straight up not work. [16:42:39] bug report? [16:42:54] 3.5 euros a day!? [16:42:55] I don't have one; it would be on them to support the latest version if anything [16:43:17] Kaizen1: Do you want to submit a bug report with all the details you have? [16:49:57] I'm submitting the bug report right now. [16:53:00] Cool, thanks :) [16:53:29] sir i facing a problem [16:53:39] sofat: OK, what's up [16:54:19] problem is i want to create automatic table when my extension is install [16:54:43] i use hook [16:54:54] what its not working [16:55:03] so please help me for that [16:55:21] sofat: Does the hook run at all? Can you pastebin how you register the hook? [16:55:23] !paste [16:55:24] To avoid overflowing the channel with inane amounts of text, use https://dpaste.org/ or other awesome pastebin sites to share code, errors, and other large texts. [16:56:17] i don't know how to register hook [16:56:19] ? [16:56:53] sofat: You said "i use hook", but you don't know how? [16:57:33] sorry i register [16:57:42] hook in main file [16:58:04] Right. Could you show us the code that does that, by using http://dpaste.de ? [17:00:16] https://dpaste.de/xxF7 [17:00:48] sofat: OK, can you show me the function SpecialBenchmark::tableu ? [17:01:04] https://dpaste.de/yMrU [17:02:45] Mithrandir: hi there! got a moment? [17:03:17] sofat: That looks fine to me. And nothing happens when you run update.php? [17:03:33] sir [17:03:44] i not run update.php [17:03:52] Well, that's your problem right there. :) [17:04:40] its more importent ? [17:04:55] sofat: What? You have to run update.php to do schema changes. [17:05:21] so how i run update.php by code in extension [17:05:54] !update.php | sofat [17:05:54] sofat: update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see [17:07:37] sir you have any code example [17:07:45] ? [17:10:16] any code example ? [17:12:28] sofat: There is no code. Run a single command. [17:12:32] Read the documentation. [17:17:56] ok i run this script on terminal and i found this error [17:18:13] https://dpaste.de/r6Wd [17:18:35] ...OK [17:18:43] sofat: You have mysql installed, I assume. [17:18:59] i installed mysql [17:19:27] yes [17:20:32] sofat: And your wiki is running with mysql as the database. [17:21:11] yes mysql [17:21:24] And it has been working so far? [17:21:33] yes [17:21:45] Well that doesn't make much sense. [17:22:28] I ran the script in base MW directory [17:22:50] But unable to figure this error out. [17:23:12] Mithrandir: I'm about to advise fhocutt on which of the 2 client libraries to focus on for the next few weeks [17:23:45] sumanah: I saw the mail, but I don't remember if she's been in touch with upstream for them already? [17:23:51] you know fhocutt it just occurred to me that you could perhaps use the data Oliver gave you [17:23:58] about which of those 2 libraries has more usage [17:24:08] fhocutt: you've been in contact with both upstream maintainers already, right? per Mithrandir [17:24:12] 's question [17:24:12] sofat: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/Fatal_exception_of_type_MWException_after_upgrading_php_and_apache might help [17:24:18] marktraceur, what could be the possible reason of such sort of errors? [17:24:26] thanks a lot marktraceur [17:24:34] I will check this out. [17:24:41] Yup [17:26:24] sumanah, Mithrandir, I will check that out [17:26:57] and Mithrandir, I left a comment on jwbf's talk page, haven't contacted the mwclient folks yet [17:27:19] Mithrandir: but she does know their approximate responsiveness, as she checked that during the eval [17:28:22] how are their relative usages? If it's similar, I'd go for the most responsive first, just so you get something done. [17:29:31] sumanah: oh hey, are you joining us during the Roadmap/Deployment meeting in, uh, 1 minute? [17:29:48] oh look there you are :) [17:30:21] Mithrandir: yeah, fhocutt has some numbers from our analytics team that I think she should check [17:34:55] Mithrandir, sumanah: ~2000 for mwclient, ~1100 for jwbf [17:35:11] same order of magnitude at least [17:35:31] ok, so fhocutt if you enjoy immediately helping more people, Python; if you like the idea of making an underused thing more usable, Java ;-) [17:35:49] pretty much! [17:36:00] I am leaning towards Java [17:36:31] Mithrandir: remind me, do you feel comfortable helping with Java stuff? [17:43:42] I'm happy to help out. I'd be more comfortable if there's somebody else too [17:45:09] as in, I can't really claim to be up-to-date with today's Java idioms, but I'm happy to opiniate on more general programming things [17:45:13] if that makes sense? [17:47:19] Hey [17:48:05] Is anyone in here willing to give me a hand with getting rid of this index.php bit [17:48:05] http://unturnedwiki.com/index.php/Unturned_Wiki [17:48:25] I've tried everything, including .htaccess stuff. [17:50:26] fhocutt: ^ you saw Mithrandir's point there :) [17:50:54] Mithrandir, it would be a lot of documentation work to start with [17:51:07] so more reading than writing for awhile [17:51:25] fhocutt: yeah, happy to read and give input [17:52:20] fhocutt: it is also probably slightly easier to get a job as an advanced novice in Java than as an advanced novice in Python [17:52:37] right. [17:52:58] fhocutt: so as surprised as I am to be saying this, yeah, it sounds like Java is the way you're going to go [17:53:13] that is also what I'm leaning towards. [17:53:44] I think neither is a bad option, so it's basically: increase your breadth (by being ok at Java + Python) or increase your Python depth [17:54:36] fhocutt: https://www.hackerschool.com/manual#sec-advice might also be useful for you to consider here, on the merits of sticking with the language you're strongest at, or improving in another one [17:54:58] choose a language that makes you happy [17:55:02] fhocutt: I think you might benefit a lot from seeing the different worldviews of different languages here [17:55:08] Mithrandir is right :) [17:55:23] at least as long as it's some crazycrazy language, I'd not worry about job prospects. [17:55:40] XiRoN: sorry - do you mean doing something like a shorter URL that has /wiki/ or similar? [17:55:44] !shorturl | XiRoN [17:55:44] XiRoN: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at or try the new beta tool at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [17:55:47] (even if you love whitespace or shakespeare or intercal, don't choose those as primaries) [17:55:51] :) [17:56:25] but for python vs java? They're both mainstream. [17:56:28] sumanah, I'd like to know how to do it without have to use /wiki/ in the URL. [17:56:34] Java doesn't make me happy, exactly, but I haven't done anything with it for a decade and I am interested in seeing what a non-scripting language feels like [17:56:54] fhocutt: maybe it will make you happy in how it's changed. [17:57:41] possibly! [17:57:54] XiRoN: sorry, I don't know. What specifically do you want your URL to look like? [17:58:20] sumanah, http://www.unturnedwiki.com/Main_Page [17:58:43] As opposed to the typical http://www.unturnedwiki/wiki/Main_Page [17:59:12] !root [17:59:12] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !nullpath, !rewriteproblems, [17:59:16] !nullpath [17:59:16] Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't foresee (and if it doesn't, it might break in the future). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [17:59:29] XiRoN: ^ here's why you would run into problems if you did that. [18:00:09] Ugh. Poop. [18:00:21] But thanks, I apprecaite your help :) [18:00:34] Glad to help XiRoN [18:00:45] :D [18:41:10] Can anyone explane me something about $wgHashedUploadDirectory I've made it false. I don't remember why :( Now I plan to grow the wiki at long last and I am not sure that all the mp3 files that I'll be added will be OK in one directory. Should I run this script or not? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:$wgHashedUploadDirectory#Script - This is the big QUESTION! [18:53:13] hey natbrown [18:53:20] you might want to try mediawiki-l [18:53:23] !lists | natbrown [18:53:23] natbrown: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [18:53:24] :) [18:55:54] * marktraceur is always in favour of running the script and seeing what happens [19:05:12] Sumanah: I've send an email to mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Is this the right way to do it? - I am not sure what to send and to whom :( [19:05:22] natbrown: did you subscribe to the list? [19:05:36] natbrown: check out https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [19:07:03] Ages ago, but I don't have time to look at all the discussions there since it's mostly me who is a teacher, a video, images and audio producer and the developer for the site... [19:10:04] natbrown: ok! no prob, your msg did go through as you can see here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2014-July/thread.html [19:10:19] specifically here http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2014-July/043125.html [19:10:29] natbrown: someone will reply to you probably within a few hrs [19:12:24] Good, I very much hope so, I think that I can only chat to people on Facebook :D I'm looking forward to seeing people in London soon, I can speak too ;) But reading and writing I'm not very good at! [19:46:40] natbrown: script by platonides -> just run it [19:47:23] It's just a directory, make a tar archive out of it and it's easy to restore anyway [19:53:38] Nemo_bis: Thank you! If you are coming to Wikimania see you there! [19:54:22] probably not [19:54:49] natbrown: will you be at the hackathon there? [19:58:21] natbrown: you're invited to https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#i18n.2FL10n https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Translathon [19:59:33] :) I'll be there! Looking forward to it! [20:07:58] natbrown: then sign ;) so that you can later find all that you found interesting at https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/special:Mycontributions [20:37:13] Does anyone know where I can get a /free/ domain to host MediaWiki? [20:42:22] rarityfan: Free things are hard to come by [21:23:23] Free domains, co.nr or .tk + you dont host a wiki on a domain you host it on a server. [22:04:25] Hi. Where can I find the CSS for this page?: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell [22:05:48] orion: Um, have you tried view source? [22:05:57] I mean [22:06:01] Do you want to *edit* the CSS? [22:06:12] http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [22:06:50] marktraceur: thank you! [22:14:01] marktraceur: Is that the CSS used on the home page? [22:16:04]