[02:11:33] Can someone explain what the difference is between localBasePath and remoteBasePath? [06:56:31] Reedy can you have a look on this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34646 isn't there a way to easily verify if revision is patrolled using api? [08:02:24] hi, dear all [08:02:52] i want to use password for my wiki [08:03:12] when a guy enter a password, then the wiki be shown [08:03:12] ow can i do that? [08:10:48] could anybody help me?? [08:16:33] hi, i want to set password for my wiki [08:16:46] when a gy enter a pass [08:16:51] then wiki be displayed [08:16:54] ho can i do that [08:16:57] please asnwer [08:20:07] could any body help me [08:20:23] how can i use my wiki password protected [08:20:28] please help me [08:21:24] sasan: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages [08:22:30] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=en&tl=fa&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediawiki.org%2Fwiki%2FManual%3APreventing_access%23Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages&edit-text=&authuser=0 [08:22:39] for automatic farsi translation [08:23:52] this is for my question? [08:24:41] could you send me the english version [08:25:05] the english version is the first link [08:25:09] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_all_pages [08:26:45] thanks [08:37:11] i want the when a guy ehter in wiki [08:37:21] it see pasword and user part [08:37:34] and should enter user and password [08:52:48] i use this [08:52:50] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [09:00:04] hi, i want to generate a group and assign the user with their pass their [09:00:14] and then assign permissions fo them [09:00:19] could any body help me [09:00:25] could help? [09:07:41] could anybody help me???? [09:18:37] could anybdy help me???? [09:18:49] how can i generate a group [09:18:53] and user and pass [09:19:02] and assign then rights? [09:22:42] !rights [09:22:42] For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [09:24:03] #join perl-kr [10:14:09] dear, i want to define a group of user and user's id and pass to those groups [10:14:13] how can i do that? [10:17:49] hi all! [10:19:28] could anybody help, i want to define a group in my wiki and assign user name an password to this group, [10:20:01] hi sasan [10:20:29] hi [10:20:34] ? [10:20:37] could you help me? [10:20:43] ... you want to assign a password to a group? [10:20:49] i want to define a group in my wiki and assign user name an password to this group [10:21:11] for example define ordinary user to my wiki [10:21:24] where i can open wiki for free? [10:21:26] and assign user and pass to this group [10:21:53] I don't think that's a feature in MediaWiki? [10:22:08] Why do you want to assign a password to the group? [10:22:26] dear i have a database fo user and pass word [10:22:35] where i can open mediawiki for free? [10:22:46] someone can help me? [10:22:46] i want the user to use this user and pass [10:23:01] when a user use one of user and pass [10:23:08] then wik be appered [10:23:14] could you help me [10:23:15] ? [10:23:38] sasan: it's wrong! [10:23:46] why? [10:23:48] where i can open mediawiki for free? [10:23:57] security hole.. [10:24:08] why? [10:24:20] the user can't change pasword... [10:24:38] sasan: So basicly you want to restrict viewing of the wiki to members of a particular group? [10:25:15] i have no group, at first i want to generate a group [10:25:19] someone can help me? [10:25:22] where i can open mediawiki for free? [10:25:22] where i can open mediawiki for free? [10:25:38] and then assign user's to this group [10:25:41] deids: So you want somewhere to host a wiki, and please don't repeat yourself, someone will get back to you. [10:25:59] and then restrict its policy [10:26:07] sasan: So first you need to create the group, you do this by assigning it a permission using (hang on) [10:26:32] so how can i define a group and then assign user to this group [10:26:33] ? [10:26:44] $wgGroupPermissions, see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGroupPermissions#Custom_user_groups [10:27:32] Lcawte: i want free service like blogspot for blogs and youtube for video.. but for wiki.. so i can open wiki without to host it and deal with the back end stuff [10:28:03] deids: You could try ShoutWiki.com, Orain.org, Wikia.com or Mywikis.com [10:28:31] (sorry to anyone else in here that runs a wiki farm, those are just the ones I know off the top of my head) [10:29:33] sasan: And then once you've done that, use Special:UserRights to put users in that group. [10:29:57] So if you want to restrict it to ccertain people, you want to change the 'view' right for people outside that group [10:32:48] i use this command to add group called ordinary $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary'] = $wgGroupPermissions['user']; [10:32:49] yes? [10:33:17] Lcawte: there easy way to migrate 2 mediawiki to one? [10:34:11] deids: "ish" ... you can export all the content using a command line script or Special:Export then import it again, moving images requires a bit of knowledge of shell/ftp/whatever [10:34:50] * bawolff wouldnt use the word "easy" for that [10:35:54] i use this command to add group called ordinary $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary'] = $wgGroupPermissions['user']; [10:36:03] i have 10 pages.. copy paste :) [10:36:42] bawolff: i send you a PM [10:37:29] No you didnt? [10:37:39] sorry dont work :( [10:38:06] iprefer people dont send me pm s anyways [10:38:18] ok [10:38:30] i use this command to add group called ordinary $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary'] = $wgGroupPermissions['user']; [10:38:34] bawolff: you have a bawolff cluster? [10:39:00] A beuwolf cluster you mean? Nope [10:39:25] ok [10:40:20] why there is 2 version of mediawiki? [10:40:26] 1.23.2 – 2014-07-30 and 1.22.9 – 2014-07-30 [10:40:38] witch is what? [10:40:41] security releases [10:41:01] ori: what do you mean? [10:41:35] One version is older than the other [10:41:56] use 1.23.2 if you dont know [10:42:16] Ori! We should say hi at some point. I'm walking around in a wmnl stroopwafel shirt. [10:42:17] it's like stable and testing? [10:42:33] i have added $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary'] = $wgGroupPermissions['user']; [10:42:42] Ori: but in the wikidata session now [10:42:44] to generate a group called ordinary [10:42:45] valhallasw`mania: yes! i'm not at the venue yet but will head over in a bit [10:43:03] now i want to generate a user name and password [10:43:07] by myself [10:43:09] e.g [10:43:25] generate a user and pass and assign that user to that group [10:43:45] Ori: ok! [10:44:39] ori: could help? [10:48:27] sasan: not right now, sorry [10:51:53] hi again, [10:53:43] mediawiki is good for documentation? [10:56:12] i need it for IT not programming [10:56:19] how to install some complicated installations. [10:56:37] i want something that i can add print screens. [10:57:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nemo_bis [10:57:38] a-lot! [11:08:41] at first when a user enter in wiki and register, it belong to none group [11:08:47] yes? [11:38:06] hi, [11:38:10] i use this commnad [11:38:11] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [11:38:24] if any user register [11:38:30] then the edit part will appered [11:41:43] could anybody help me??? [11:42:21] i use $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; but any registered user when enter the edit part is shown [11:43:47] could help me with my question? [11:43:54] i use $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; but any registered user when enter the edit part is shown [11:45:31] I don't understand [11:45:55] who knows, vogone? [11:46:12] ? [11:50:16] sasan: is this what you are trying to do? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [11:51:12] i want to define a group called ordinary [11:51:26] and any registered user which i know them [11:51:32] asign them to that group [11:51:35] but before [11:51:45] assigning, i want to one can read my wiki [11:51:55] i use these commands [12:02:51] Hi all! I just installed CKeditor ( WYSIWYG ), I can see it is loaded in Special:version. However, when I go to edit a page I still se the old editor. [12:03:13] These lines are in my localsettings.php [12:03:15] require_once("$IP/extensions/CKeditor/WYSIWYG/WYSIWYG.php"); [12:03:15] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['wysiwyg'] = true; [12:03:15] $wgDefaultUserOptions['cke_show'] = 'richeditor'; [12:03:16] $wgDefaultUserOptions['riched_start_disabled'] = false; [12:03:21] Any help is much appreicated!! [12:09:11] hi [12:13:02] mepl: why would you install CKeditor? [12:13:05] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CKEditor [12:15:16] andre__: because the default one is very bad [12:15:34] andre__: which one do you suggest then? [12:15:37] mepl: so you prefer an insecure unmaintained different one instead? [12:15:46] I cannot judge what's good for you :) [12:15:55] I only wonder why people install unmaintained insecure software. [12:16:11] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WYSIWYG [12:16:15] I installed that one [12:16:18] not CKEditor [12:16:48] I see it is not even supported in my version now, jeez. I still need an editor [12:36:58] hi [12:37:19] i try to work with this guide - but i get an error [12:37:30] http://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-debian-wheezy/ [12:37:44] i'm using debian jesse [12:41:47] someone here [12:51:48] hi [12:51:49] hi [12:51:59] i try to work with this guide - but i get an error [12:52:07] http://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-debian-wheezy/ [12:52:18] i'm using debian jesse [12:52:35] someone can help me? [12:56:36] hello [12:56:56] could someone take a look at this page? https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/estrogen [12:57:10] this is what it displays when logged in http://i.imgur.com/BbQjRpK.png?1 [13:01:50] * andre__ logs in [13:02:07] yeah, confirming [13:10:37] Hello everyone, I asked this question last night but I think everyone was asleep. What is the difference between localbasepath and remotebasepath? [13:10:44] what size of server i need for the mediawiki? [13:12:40] wikinoob, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation_requirements [13:17:44] Hey does anyone know what extension is doing the pdf exporting on mw.org? I would think PDF export, but that says it doesn't work on 1.21+ [13:19:14] andre__: i have dell R820 [13:19:30] wikinoob: and I don't have any idea what that means. [13:19:40] the link I provided however provides all data you need. [13:19:53] wikinoob: That's probably more than suffiicent, you can run MW on a VM. [13:20:19] i need it for all the company [13:20:43] 20 people [13:21:12] Rosencrantz: andre__ ^ [13:21:13] That's a bit of overkill. [13:21:23] Rosencrantz: that was https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Writer until a few weeks ago [13:21:52] 20 people only at the documentation... [13:22:09] Rosencrantz, and then https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection on top [13:22:37] Ah ha! [13:22:38] Thanks! [13:23:23] i expect more than 1000 new pages per week [13:23:50] Rosencrantz: andre__ what do you think? ^ [13:24:20] wikinoob: I think that I wrote before that I have not the slightest idea how powerful some "Dell R820" is, so I cannot comment at all. [13:24:38] (and I'm too lazy to search for hardware specs of random hardware) [13:24:59] http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bects4&model_id=poweredge-r820&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04 [13:25:08] andre__: ^ [13:26:33] 7000$ server... [13:27:26] Get an SSD [13:27:59] if you are going to spend $7k on a server for running mediawiki, I would recommend an SSD [13:28:27] i have it here. [13:29:03] it has 2 xeon cpu 4 ssd 512 gb 16 gb ram [13:29:03] Castile: Problem is enterprise SSDs are exxxpensive [13:32:06] I dont get why you need an enterprise SSD, they are reliable as it is, just get two in RAID 1 [13:32:11] if you are worried [13:33:10] With hard drives its understandable since they have moving parts and liable to fail [13:33:13] Castile: Actually no they're not reliable if you use consumer grade SSDs in an enterprise server like a Dell R820. [13:33:27] Rosencrantz, how so [13:33:55] I'm trying to remember the exact details, but I think it was like a near simultaneous failure of like 20 drives? [13:35:16] This was a couple years ago though. But there's a basically a limit on the number of re-writes before failure, in typical consumer usage you don't run into it because you're not doing a lot of writes and re-writes to the disk [13:35:59] Our company sells consumer grade SSDs, we have sold them with servers as well, if the customers ask for them, we do the warranty support for them and we get little to no returns for them [13:36:42] All SSDs have a write limit, SLC has a higher limit than MLC [13:37:10] Yeah, looking up some old info. I think it was a bunch of MLC drives that failed after 8 months of usage [13:38:06] Oh yeah, when they came out they were awful [13:38:15] We had a ton of OCZ Vertex returns [13:39:42] but they have improved greatly since then, youre better off with an SSD than an HDD regardless [13:40:27] so while a consumer grade ssd isn't as reliable as an enterprise one, its still more reliable than an HDD, and writing new pages and doing queries against your database will be much better with an SSD [13:40:33] Ah, asking around. It wasn't the SLC vs MLC thing, I thought it was. [13:42:21] I was out of the loop for a bit. It was a firmware bug apparently that wiped out the 20 drives or so. [13:42:53] Yeah that happened in the past too, they used to have horrid controllers [13:44:09] I think by the Third Gen of ssd controllers majority of the issues were fixed if I am not mistaken [13:45:09] haha, either way I doubt wikinoob cares at this point. Just a suggestion. I have an SSD on my rented dedicated right now. Its pretty nice. [13:51:11] Yeah, fair enough. I'm running on some regular old SAS drives. [13:52:05] nothing wrong with that, better than running it on a flash drive as I see it [13:52:08] :P [13:52:38] So I have been doing some research, is remotebasepath the path that is used within the files in the $wgResourceModule array? [13:53:08] The documentation on these two variables is not well explained and I am trying to do some diagnostics [13:53:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PHP_configuration ??? [13:53:55] ..is that for me? [14:00:05] I think remotebasepath is for the url path, but dont quote me on that [14:01:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgResourceModules appears to disagree although don't quote me on that :P [14:02:34] Castile: no [14:02:50] Nemo_bis any idea? [14:02:59] no [14:03:23] I thought it was the same as bawolff, but after reading the documentation and seeing examples, the only thing I can think of is the explaination I provided [14:07:56] i just generate a group called ordinary [14:08:42] and use the bellow codes [14:08:43] $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary'] = $wgGroupPermissions['user']; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary']['edit'] = false; [14:08:58] now i registerd with a user and assign him to ordinary group [14:09:08] but when he is log in, he can edit each page [14:09:09] why? [14:19:25] Why are making ordinary = user? [14:19:50] ah nvm, inherit [14:20:11] i just want to defiene a group [14:20:22] how could i define ordinary as seperate grop [14:20:28] could you help? [14:20:35] $wgRevokePermissions [14:20:37] is what you want [14:20:58] $wgRevokePermissions['ordinary']['edit'] = True; [14:21:00] what does it mean? [14:22:02] $wgGroupPermissions is for adding permissions, setting it to false is pretty much like saying, dont do anything [14:22:07] True needs to be lowercase [14:22:12] does it? [14:22:23] so $wgRevokePermissions['ordinary']['edit'] = fasle; is ok? [14:22:28] no [14:22:30] true [14:22:34] why, ? [14:22:38] because you want to say [14:22:51] i want to make them not edit [14:22:53] I want to revoke edit permission to ordinary to edit [14:22:56] so i should false [14:22:58] no [14:23:18] you are saying I do not want to revoke permission to ordinary to edit [14:23:19] you mean if i use $wgRevokePermissions['ordinary']['edit'] = True; [14:23:21] its a double negative [14:23:22] i can disable editign [14:23:42] true must be in lowercase though [14:23:48] according to bawolff [14:23:56] $wgRevokePermissions['ordinary']['edit'] = true; [14:23:58] use that [14:24:14] yes? [14:24:20] it disable the editing [14:24:31] if you use it, it should [14:25:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRevokePermissions [14:25:25] documentation for your benefit [14:25:51] yes, it is ok, and if i want to make the new user which is registered in my wiki not to edit and see wiki till i make himself as a ordinary memeber [14:25:55] what should i do? [14:26:16] then [14:26:40] i want to add the new user which is registered in my wiki to ordinary group [14:26:53] but before i do this, i want not to see my wiki [14:27:07] just register and wait till i add them to ordinary [14:27:56] $wgGroupPermissions['*]['edit'] = false; [14:28:03] or [14:28:18] sorry [14:28:18] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [14:28:23] forgot the extra ' [14:28:39] but they can see the wiki [14:28:43] i do not want to see [14:29:23] then you want read [14:29:27] instead of edit [14:29:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [14:30:16] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [14:30:17] you mean this [14:30:19] it is ok? [14:31:19] yes, but then you have to do $wgGroupPermissions['ordinary']['read'] = true; [14:31:25] See also special:usergrouprights on your wiki [14:31:49] i add that, but any user can register in my wiki [14:31:53] can see and edir [14:31:56] can see and edit [14:32:05] i think it is not true [14:32:47] theres three rules, read is for viewing your wiki, edit is for editing, and createaccount is for registering [14:33:05] * is for anonymous, user is the default registration user group [14:33:05] yes, i know [14:33:07] the user can register [14:33:17] but after registeration, he can see my wiki [14:33:23] i do not want to see my wiki [14:33:31] till i add him to ordinary group [14:35:47] Then do http://hastebin.com/yirubofaqu.bash [14:36:37] but I dont understand why you want to do an ordinary group [14:36:51] just disable user account creation for * [14:36:56] and you make their accounts [14:37:53] no please see my wiki [14:38:01] 84.241.45.8/pars_wiki [14:38:06] if you register on my wiki [14:38:25] without waiting for me to add you on ordinary group, after registeration [14:38:34] you can edit and see my wiki [14:39:02] but i want to wait till i add you in ordinary group, then you can see my wiki [14:39:12] understand now? [14:40:05] I can't register because I dont know what the last thing on your wiki is [14:40:33] for the registration page [14:41:09] what do you mean? [14:41:15] you can enter in my wiki? [14:42:08] I don't speak persian (I think thats what it is). [14:42:15] but that aside [14:42:31] but please register and then you can see that you can change every thing [14:42:42] as i did not add you to ordinary group [14:42:56] just do $wgRevokePermission['user']['read'] = true; and $wgRevokePermission['user']['edit'] = true; [14:43:02] problem solved [14:50:52] [14:50:55] i use these [14:50:58] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = true; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; $wgRevokePermission['ordinary']['edit'] = true; [14:51:05] is it ok? [15:14:47] It's amusing how many obscure mediawiki.org pages have pl and ja translations :) [15:18:18] sasan: should work [15:18:52] I am not 100% clear, the documentation is a bit contradictory, because it says not use wgGroupPermissions for removing permissions, but yet you can set it to false [15:21:41] hi [15:22:18] hoy [15:22:27] how many pages i can store in 1GB database? [15:23:00] thousands if configured well, zero if you don't instal QuestyCaptcha and spambots consume all the sapce [15:32:05] Nemo_bis: it's going to be in internal network.. so spam is not problem [15:32:53] i'm finished the installation by this guide [15:32:54] http://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-debian-wheezy/ [15:33:11] but i get an error [15:33:29] The requested URL /mediawiki/config was not found on this server. [15:33:59] Nemo_bis ^ someone? [15:34:29] wikinoob: it's /mw-config/ now, not /config/ [15:34:49] also, installing from your distribution's repository is not recommended [15:35:06] apt-get remove? [15:35:25] ideally, yes [15:35:25] The requested URL /mw-config was not found on this server. [15:35:35] !install [15:35:35] Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [15:36:19] if you manually download MediaWiki and install it, then you'll know what URL you should use to run the installer [15:37:03] well, if you have at least some basic knowledge about apache configuration and such [15:38:02] what is apache? [15:38:20] <^d> wikinoob: A web server. [15:38:43] but i have the R820 [15:38:57] it's 7000$ server [15:39:05] very strong [15:40:06] the apache is better?? [15:40:36] apache is software, not hardware [15:40:56] and you have already installed it if you followed the instructions you linked before [15:42:12] Vulpix: so what to do now? [15:42:29] i have the installed wiki [15:42:51] i see an error [15:42:54] locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory [15:43:44] http://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue [15:43:56] that's why suggest a quick search on google :) [15:44:05] s/why/what/ [15:45:40] http://pastebin.com/57YpcSWg [15:46:41] Vulpix: this make me the problem with the wiki? [15:47:23] I doubt it could broken your MediaWiki, but that's odd [16:57:09] #wikipedia-it-vandalism [17:31:38] I bet this is not up to date https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:List_of_MediaWiki_configuration_settings_containing_sensitive_data [17:32:18] ^demon|gone: killed another installation manual page https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3AConfiguration&diff=1094480&oldid=759788 [17:38:14] jackmcbarn: were you referring to deleting that commented out line in AutomaticBoardWelcome.php? I apparently wasn't awake when I did the last changes. [17:41:31] jackmcbarn: did I also miss the switching of lines 91 & 92? [17:42:25] wmat: none of the changes happened [17:44:03]